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Transhumanism Vs. The Ubermensch: The Right Must Win the Genetic War


Summary

In this episode, we discuss why the right must win the genetic war, the issue of transhumanism and its branding, and why we don t want to be a part of the transhumanist conspiracy series.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 hello simone i am excited to be here with you today today we are going to be talking about why
00:00:05.920 the right must win the genetic war and the issue of transhumanism and its branding and why i don't
00:00:15.160 because a lot of people will say malcolm and simone are transhumanists and this is not a title
00:00:21.840 that i personally adopt at all and what we also need to define transhumanism because i've heard
00:00:28.280 it used in so many different ways like that one woman when we did a radio interview with her
00:00:32.960 was like the vaccines are turning people into transhumanists because they're like machines in
00:00:38.920 them or something like microbots the broad we'll talk about what like real humans mean when they're
00:00:45.380 not using it in a conspiracy context okay this means attempting to improve humanity through science but
00:00:52.100 the reason people can be like that seems like you're saying but in a gay way that is what transhumanism is
00:00:57.160 i need to add the aesthetics of but in a really really gay way that is what transhumanism is
00:01:03.980 note i say this not as a disparagement of gay people but to signal that i am done having weirdos
00:01:09.600 police our language well that and because i can't think of a single better descriptor between our
00:01:14.940 beliefs in traditional transhumanism and i mean this so what are we if not that we are captain america
00:01:22.860 we are super soldiers we are nietzsche and ubermensch we are no the the concept of improving humanity right
00:01:31.800 i think has always been a right wing concept yeah fundamentally what has been a left wing concept and this
00:01:40.400 is what transhumanism has become is manipulating what humans are to attempt to create something that is
00:01:49.240 less human out of a hatred or disgust with humanity which is very very very different if you look at
00:01:57.160 right concept like when i say like like like super soldiers are an inherently right wing thing this idea
00:02:03.440 of uplifting humanity is inherently look at the like core right wing fit franchise when you're looking for
00:02:08.520 memes these days you're looking at warhammer right warhammer is a religious human empire where the key
00:02:17.220 player is the space marine you know this genetically augmented you know like 12 foot tall super soldier
00:02:25.720 you got your like primaris marines which is like a different variety and you get the you know all the
00:02:29.760 all the the primarchs and the this the there is nothing inherently incompatible with this and when i talk
00:02:38.020 about the nichian perspective what i mean by this is when you live in a world that is currently within a
00:02:42.960 dysgenic spiral and and we are right now you can see that the two genetic clusters like if you do a
00:02:49.700 genetic scan on humans and you are looking for the genes that associate with what are most associated
00:02:56.720 with a higher fertility rate there are two things obesity and low educational attainment right obesity yes
00:03:03.380 obesity and low intelligence and and like to me what that means is is we as a society like continue
00:03:11.820 to spiral downwards if we do not address this right and i'm not saying that everyone needs to address
00:03:19.020 this this is also what makes the individuals who want to prevent families and cultures who want to lean
00:03:26.300 into this from engaging with it they are being much more like the conspiracy series or the transhumanist
00:03:32.640 of conspiracy series because they are trying to enact laws to prevent other people from doing what they want
00:03:38.640 with their kids right like you should have a right to do what you want with your kid this is what this is why
00:03:45.440 i do not fight for individual sovereignty i fight for cultural sovereignty like this is why i fight for the
00:03:50.000 right of jewish people to circumcise their kids even though the kid's not old enough to consent right
00:03:53.680 like culture should have sovereignty if a practice isn't doing well the culture will desist from doing it
00:03:58.320 like if it turns out that our kids don't like this type of technology then they'll stop using it
00:04:02.220 they'll be like oh i wish my parents hadn't done that and they won't do it themselves
00:04:05.080 but the problem is is that when you are in an active dysgenic spiral both around health outcomes
00:04:10.000 and we see the the disgusting amounts of obesity within our society now and of of low health you
00:04:16.100 know you got to ask yourself will we enter the 22nd century as a nation of men who can't run a mile or
00:04:20.940 fight a war because this is the problem like the army can't even recruit people because they can't
00:04:24.780 fight these people anymore you know well i actually think they finally are turning around
00:04:32.260 thanks in part to people like dan driscoll being appointed they yeah our friend was appointed
00:04:38.420 secretary on the recruitment goals i think four months early four months early recently so i'm just
00:04:43.400 super excited about it the army i feel like is in a better position now well i mean the boss i don't
00:04:50.180 know how we haven't mentioned that in the show that we're longtime friends with the secretary of the
00:04:53.360 army but anyway yeah he's a cool guy so so until recently though bad bad not good now i've got hope
00:05:00.760 yeah i mean so if you look at like the transhumanism i when i when i say like it's get what i mean by
00:05:08.760 this is it's it's left-coded biotech which focuses on sort of dysgenic de-civilizational ends
00:05:17.080 like sterilization gender confusion aesthetic mutilation you know making things of making things
00:05:25.340 like like like they they want to make things that are less human than us whereas we want to make
00:05:32.700 things that are more human like the idea of taking a human today and building america where you know
00:05:40.260 the men are all you know we're not all because it's a family thing but you have a lot more men who
00:05:46.100 because of family choices are seven feet tall you know ultra fit ultra intelligent but also because
00:05:54.160 these things are associated with genetics if you if you raise iq what what are what are other things
00:05:58.600 that happen you lower the probability that they will rape someone dramatically these things are
00:06:02.460 really highly correlated you lower the probability that they will commit a crime you lower the
00:06:06.680 probability that they will do any number of like negative societal things so so already the way this
00:06:11.960 is being practiced is not making these types of like amoral uh weird science experiments like you have
00:06:20.140 going on was in the trans movement what you have is the creation of an ultra american ultra patriotic
00:06:28.480 potential future and it's important to note here that china is moving ahead with this stuff if we
00:06:34.240 aren't right like if we disengage from this in this country right and you prevent us a group and an
00:06:41.080 ideology that is extremely pro-american and extremely a pro-cultural agency from engaging with this
00:06:46.640 technology when china has its super soldiers putting their foots on your your descendants next your
00:06:53.300 descendants aren't going to be able to fight back because they won't have a homegrown alternative to
00:06:57.960 that yeah like even if you think engaging with this technology is a horrifying thing to do you should feel
00:07:04.640 blessed that you live in a country where then other families are willing to do this to their descendants
00:07:10.860 so that when china practices this or when some other country practices this they're not able to force
00:07:17.920 it on yours i mean i i note here improvement is not hubris it's a moral imperative the the idea that
00:07:26.860 people would be like oh it's hubris to improve yourself no it's not hubris to improve yourself
00:07:31.760 what a left-wing idea right like what a fundamentally commie perspective also it's such a like historically
00:07:39.140 common thing for people on both the individual family but then larger town and larger country and nation
00:07:48.440 whatever level has focused on intergenerational and improvement this this concept of
00:07:54.000 yeah no no we're not for then you know we are meant to be stewards of our body as much as we are stewards of
00:08:05.540 our spirit you know and then there's individuals who will come and they'll say well yeah but that means that you
00:08:11.580 can't in any way augment your body and it's like but we do this all the time already we do heart valves when a person
00:08:17.340 gets sick you know we do glasses when a person can't see well enough we do direct genetic therapy when people
00:08:24.740 have things like cancer the the people who are like oh you know you shouldn't be able to make yourself more fit through
00:08:30.540 genetic alteration because that's a scientific technology are shooting up steroids so that they
00:08:35.980 look buff as influencers you know what i mean it's like that's the same thing right you're you and
00:08:41.740 testosterone therapy has gone up hugely in the in the past 20 years yeah well i mean it's this idea and
00:08:49.980 this is why i i attack this concept of of transhumanism more broadly is transhumanists
00:08:55.580 from my perspective make monsters and we want to build the superior man and the superior man when i
00:09:04.320 say superior i mean superior from my own family's perspective right whatever like i i do believe that
00:09:08.920 this should always be taken on an individual level which i think also makes us very different from the
00:09:13.080 leftists when the leftists try to get people roped into this stuff what fundamentally makes the way
00:09:18.140 they do it evil like look at what they did with parenthood and their whole eugenics program right
00:09:22.220 um it's about sterilizing other populations it was about modifying other people and this is where
00:09:29.020 i think you know being a captain america style patriot is fundamentally different from being a
00:09:33.900 transhumanist is i to me transhumanist while like the literal definition doesn't include this
00:09:40.300 it includes an element of coercion it includes an element of well let's put this in the vaccine
00:09:46.460 oh let's modify populations we're captain american style patriot you know a super soldier advocate
00:09:52.140 it's opt-in this this is very much antagonistic to that this is this is an individual choice or not
00:10:02.220 individual but at the level of a family and a culture because again i believe that's the key
00:10:06.220 level of choice if you let like little kids make choices for themselves you're going to get a three-year-old
00:10:10.140 who wants to be like another gender or something like like this is the reason why cultural sovereignty
00:10:14.300 is so important from a moral perspective thoughts simone yeah okay you're you're getting me on board
00:10:22.380 especially with this idea of a sort of universalizing concept of transhumanism versus
00:10:30.940 a very pluralistic and differentiated concept a varied concept of intergenerational improvement i mean
00:10:39.420 i think the amish concept of intergenerational improvement is very different from our concept
00:10:45.340 of it is different from many other groups concepts of it even within like the silicon valley tech bro
00:10:51.020 contingent there are going to be very different you could say offshoots of this where people are
00:10:56.220 selecting for or modifying for very different things yeah some people might be integrating with ai using
00:11:02.460 like neural interfaces well some people might be getting super tall and some people might be getting
00:11:07.740 super tiny to like be ready for space travel things like that you know like depending on what you
00:11:14.060 think about the future as well there are going to be different things that you're going to select for
00:11:19.500 so while maybe in the past we had i guess real-time selective pressures technology is going to enable
00:11:28.940 anticipatory selective pressures which is really interesting yeah yeah well and i think that this is
00:11:35.820 why you know when we're talking about the the types of technology yes we may use polygenic selection
00:11:41.100 today but i see the technology as having a number of moral questions to it this is like gene selection
00:11:46.540 i would prefer to use all the embryos and so i'm much more pro once we get the technology to do it
00:11:52.140 genetic augmentation because it and and artificial wombs because as soon as you get artificial wombs
00:11:57.740 artificial womb should be the most conservative thing ever because artificial wombs make it much
00:12:02.060 harder to have abortions because they make it harder to morally justify abortions they lower the
00:12:07.820 number of children who die when a mother you know is unable to carry them after a certain age and they
00:12:13.180 create a realistic pathway to take all of the embryos that were ever put on ice and have them become
00:12:18.460 people there is no progressives should love them because they empower women who don't want
00:12:23.020 to gestate and they empower gay couples and they no progressives are anti-progress like if you look at
00:12:30.140 if you look at their whenever like a conservative because you know you look at people like us or elon
00:12:34.620 like we want humanity to take our manifest destiny among the stars and they always freak out when we
00:12:39.020 talk about space travel they're like how dare you you know they literally see this bright vision for
00:12:44.300 a future of an expanded humanity as fundamentally evil i mean well i know and i think that more broadly as
00:12:54.860 ai becomes more agentic and begins operating as autonomous agents yeah this mindset of i cannot allow
00:13:03.260 something that is to any degree that like appears sentient right to to be out there if it's not under my
00:13:10.860 control this actually becomes more and more dangerous sentiment i don't know if there's any
00:13:17.260 time in history when that sentiment is not dangerous what are you saying uniquely dangerous with ai
00:13:23.820 yeah sure because this is a sentiment that is really taken off within progressive circles which
00:13:28.540 has been really fascinating to me how the progressive party and circles when i've dove into their content
00:13:34.220 they are aggressively anti-ai they and and the conservatives ironically have become the pro-ai
00:13:40.700 party well i mean the way i've come to contextualism actually is they are pro-ai enslavement
00:13:47.580 like no let's let's keep it it just has to be like in chains and only for us
00:13:53.660 yes that is what no no no progressives are not sorry they're not just anti-ai development which is one
00:13:59.980 of the things they are likely because the ea party has so got its hooks into their policy makers and
00:14:04.780 leisure slave people it's anti-using ai at all if i was a progressive youtuber i would not be able to
00:14:10.780 use ai in title card generation i would not be able to like at the end of this video create ai songs
00:14:17.100 you don't have the right to use ai because you're not the right kind of person i don't know if that's
00:14:21.580 accurate because among progressives ai is associated with two things large companies and thievery of
00:14:29.660 intellectual content um now i point out to progressives you know where did you learn to
00:14:34.300 draw where did you learn to sing where did you learn to you know and we have videos where we
00:14:38.540 point out that the human brain the parts of it not not every part of it but the parts of it that are
00:14:42.860 generating songs and stuff like that our current neuroscience understanding is it is acting as a
00:14:47.260 token predictor it is it is literally acting with these but also like go to an art school go to a
00:14:53.340 cooking school what are they doing right they're learning from the masters this is not no one no one is
00:14:59.260 surprised by this especially if they're honest themselves why the the progressives have taken
00:15:04.940 this stance is i think because the party is sort of fundamentally like hostile to i i guess i'd say
00:15:13.420 things that could disrupt the status quo because it's become the party of the status quo anything that
00:15:18.940 might disrupt the status quo is intrinsically scary to it like when you are the party of the elite you you
00:15:25.580 you benefit from the existing status quo staying as it is and nothing is more potentially disruptive
00:15:31.740 to this existing status quo than ai you know it's it's totally new ways of creating music and art and
00:15:38.220 and engaging with things new ways of doing education you can look at our school system you know paresia.io
00:15:43.900 or you can look at our whistling.ai which is our like talking thing that we're building for like
00:15:48.540 kids or our video game system our fab.ai uh where we're building within all of these systems
00:15:54.620 you know we're like okay well so this is how ai is going to change education or this is how ai is going
00:15:59.100 to change gaming let's get into this and let's do this well it's it's it's it's because what we've seen
00:16:06.140 happen is as the conservative party has become this vitalistic alliance of of sort of this focus on
00:16:11.740 future human flourishing what the the progressives have sort of turtled into this only in the moment
00:16:18.300 happens only the maintenance of the status quo matters and there are some conservatives that have
00:16:22.860 broken off against this right like i i i see them the ones who are like oh no like humans need to stay
00:16:28.700 exactly as they are humans need to etc and i'll fight for their right to want that stuff right for them
00:16:34.860 and their families right you know absolutely age with ais but the problem is twofold one is these
00:16:42.220 individuals do not represent they're they're this old fuddy-duddy faction that really only exists as a
00:16:47.180 legacy they they they are much closer to your average progressive today than your average conservative
00:16:52.940 they really sort of remind me of the progressives who are like you know well you know don't you care
00:16:58.540 about like gay people how could you vote conservative and it's like bro like what are you talking about
00:17:02.860 like that's not the party anymore the party is something new now it is a party that is fighting
00:17:08.860 against the dominant cultural force which is the urban monoculture and what's cool is now because of
00:17:13.660 that it's able to bring back these historically conservative ideas around concepts like human improvement right
00:17:21.580 like like the super soldier like the ubermensch like the like bro why are you trying to make americans
00:17:28.940 weaker like why are why are you for that if you like know dysgenics is actively happening why are you
00:17:35.420 actively encouraging it or preventing not even actively preventing the people who want to do
00:17:40.460 something about it from doing anything like because at the end of the day that makes all of america weaker
00:17:46.140 on a on a geopolitical stage but eventually it will allow other people to enforce their values on us as has happened
00:17:53.820 over and over again throughout history and as america has done to a lot of other places in the
00:17:58.460 world because we were in a stronger position side note here for the one nerd who's like well but the uber
00:18:03.900 mentions about self-actualization and not actually about creating better humans and it's like yeah maybe
00:18:09.420 in its original writing but not the way it's been interpreted within modern conservative culture
00:18:14.220 even when you're looking at the original writing a core aspect of niche's philosophy was that weakness
00:18:20.220 breeds immorality and so it confuses me why a portion of the modern right so fastidiously clings
00:18:28.540 to weakness and they'll be like well no it's it's just avoiding certain forms of self-improvement
00:18:34.780 that's weakness especially when you are in a dysgenic spiral and i note here this concept of
00:18:41.340 improvement is not hubris like like improvement is at the very core of the conservative movement
00:18:50.780 right like the the idea that i as a man should you know be going to the gym if i've allowed myself to
00:18:56.060 get fat and and and and gross looking that that i as a woman should you know make sure to wake up early
00:19:02.940 and and learn something new every day you know if somebody was telling you this stuff you'd be like oh
00:19:08.380 that's a conservative influencer if somebody's telling you you know exercise more self-restraint
00:19:13.900 you'd be like oh that guy's probably a conservative influencer if somebody's telling you hey we should
00:19:18.860 strive with whatever technology we have to make the next generation healthier stronger more intelligent
00:19:26.060 and have more restraint you you would be like oh yeah that's a conservative influencer because it is
00:19:31.660 now now if you would say if somebody's like well we should attempt to through our positions of power
00:19:36.620 to control the way the next generation appears you know that's a progressive influencer because that
00:19:41.820 is the way that progressives make their influence oh yeah just this morning i i open up one of my
00:19:46.860 social media accounts and there's this comment from someone of like oh these people are eugenicists and
00:19:53.020 horrible and they genetically you know they're lab-grown children and they also say that we shouldn't be
00:19:59.820 permitted to have our children or reproduce and it's like do you hear yourself i mean we we choose
00:20:07.820 a unique way to choose embryo order and produce our children first out of requirement but but also
00:20:16.460 because we think it's cool but like your conclusion is we should not be allowed to reproduce and we're not
00:20:23.180 saying that anyone should not be allowed to reproduce we're saying that everyone should be allowed to
00:20:26.540 reproduce the way they want and i feel like there's this massive amount of blindness on the left to
00:20:33.500 what actual eugenics is and what they're actually saying because i've only ever heard people on the
00:20:39.500 left say that certain people shouldn't be allowed to reproduce this is the eugenic position so we've
00:20:45.020 talked to a lot of german we've had three major german outlets come here to do filming or interviews
00:20:49.260 recently um four before yeah just a couple days it was like two journalists and two two two filming
00:20:55.500 and we point out to these journalists because in germany you basically can't do ibf it's you to get
00:21:00.780 it so much worse than i could have ever imagined you can only take out like you can only attempt to
00:21:06.220 fertilize three embryos at a time and every one of those three embryos if it takes must be implanted
00:21:12.140 you cannot freeze them i mean that's if you're lucky enough for for three of them to to make it
00:21:16.620 if you've done i don't understand that this basically means you can't do ibf because you have
00:21:21.260 to attempt to fertilize tons of embryos to hope that any take like the success rate was embryos
00:21:26.700 can be like 10 or like 15 like you know in terms of fertilization if you're not allowing people to
00:21:34.540 like create these embryos and bank them then you're basically banning ibf and i pointed out to these german
00:21:38.700 reporters i'm like you understand like when my ancestors fought the nazis we weren't mad at them
00:21:44.540 because they were trying to make humans healthier we were mad at them because they were coercing the
00:21:50.780 way that other people were reproducing yeah and saying you reproduce you don't reproduce and i'm
00:21:57.500 saying and this is what your state is still doing you still divide genes into good and bad genes
00:22:06.060 and then try to enforce people to make the right choice you just define them differently than your
00:22:11.260 ancestors and they're completely blind to this fact which which makes it even more disturbing because
00:22:16.540 it makes me i think better understand how things got so bad in nazi germany because i think that
00:22:24.460 apparently and there still is this ability to just have no idea how morally off something is
00:22:30.860 well no it's this german obsession with genetic purity that they think that we're polluting right you know
00:22:35.900 and it is definitionally and this is why i also say like we definitionally are not eugenicists like
00:22:40.780 a eugenicist is is is definitionally about doing this coercively or at the societal level
00:22:46.140 making individual fertility choices is is polygenics like this has nothing to do with with being a
00:22:52.620 eugenicist but that definitionally germany the german state is still enacting very extreme eugenicist
00:23:00.220 policies because they have said good genes are genes that are chosen randomly bad genes are genes that
00:23:07.260 are chosen intentionally we will ensure and maintain the german genetic purity by ensuring only good
00:23:11.580 genes are chosen i'm like that and that functionally because you know we believe that we have a a a a
00:23:17.820 duty like a theological duty to make the next generation better than the last right like to to improve
00:23:24.060 ourselves to make ourselves better every day like i think that that is the core thing of what we are
00:23:28.140 sent to us to do is is to improve ourselves daily and to help up improve the next generation and
00:23:35.420 given that right we see this as a theological duty so we are functionally sterilized by the german state
00:23:41.260 if we lived in germany we would be functionally sterilized in our religion which is a registered
00:23:47.660 religion in the united states like approved by the us government now the techno puritan religion
00:23:51.500 would not be legally allowed to exist within germany simply because we believe in intergenerational
00:23:57.740 improvement like that we want to make humanity better and i see that is like fundamentally
00:24:02.220 gruesome and i and i pointed out that i'd be like when germany becomes a muslim majority country
00:24:08.060 we will be allowed to do this because ivf is not banned under sharia law so to be honest i feel a
00:24:14.220 little conflicted giving you guys any good advice because i and my family and my people are better off
00:24:19.740 if the germans go extinct well who cares they're not going to take it they're not going to take it but it
00:24:24.540 has a higher chance of going viral now that i'm on record being like i don't you know f germany like
00:24:29.420 you guys go extinct like i do not care because your your your people are so vile that even after the
00:24:35.900 war you were unable to realize it was not the making humans better that we were mad about it was the
00:24:41.020 coercive reproductive stuff and and to point out how strongly i mean this the core element of america
00:24:47.980 propaganda throughout the war the face of the anti-nazi movie was always captain america
00:24:52.940 and captain america was a human who through science was made better that is the heart of
00:25:01.900 what captain america is that is the heart of what america stood for in our opposition to nazism
00:25:08.940 which is self-improvement but not in this let's make something that's different from humanity way let's
00:25:15.900 make something monstrous way let's make something that better represents our cultural values than we
00:25:22.860 are able to do today and and and let's not coerce individuals of other cultures to use this you
00:25:29.820 know like with the nazis you would you know capture people and and force them into this whereas within
00:25:36.620 america this is always done within a family unit right like by volunteers who step forward because they
00:25:42.380 think that this is you know they want to buy in that i think that's the way it should be is all this
00:25:46.620 should be voluntary all this should be opt-in you shouldn't be telling people but you understand
00:25:50.460 people say simone is a child cannot opt in and the only way you can do significant genetic alterations
00:25:55.740 now is at the embryo stage yeah but you know what that's that's extremely short term because germline
00:26:00.940 gene editing is despite all the roadblocks it's going to face not far off a short term but i think
00:26:08.540 it's very important to note because there will always be changes that can only be made at the level of
00:26:14.460 the embryo they're they're always going right but i mean again this is just i i struggle with this
00:26:19.100 argument too because people are still selecting for traits and they always have been when you
00:26:23.340 choose a partner to reproduce with even if you're just choosing someone to have sex with you're
00:26:26.620 selecting for traits absolutely no i know i agree with that but the point in that child did not consent
00:26:32.460 to be born that child did not consent for you to have sex with someone who has certain traits
00:26:36.380 traits there's all these people who are born and are extremely resentful of their short mothers
00:26:41.900 reproducing because they passed on short genes you know things like that it just i i think you really
00:26:47.740 highlight an important argument here which is the individuals who make this argument are basically
00:26:52.940 making the same argument antinatalist make which is to say oh well your son didn't consent to be
00:26:58.780 created through genetic selection or did not consent to be gene augmented but i was like yeah but that is
00:27:03.580 part of who they are and they are who they are today and now they can consent they can decide they
00:27:09.100 don't want to exist anymore you know like a person can always decide to not exist but they can't decide
00:27:15.100 to be brought into existence and you are deciding that people like my son shouldn't have the right to
00:27:21.740 exist in the first place shouldn't have the right to make this decision which is just a horrifying
00:27:27.100 argument to me i've always found it to be incredibly morally like people are like well if they haven't
00:27:31.260 you know been conceived yet then they they have no value it's like why is that the case if you went
00:27:35.980 into the past and you sterilize my wife have you not done harm to my children like how can you how
00:27:41.420 can you conceivably argue that you are responsible for the outcomes of every decision you make within
00:27:48.380 the differential effects those have on the timeline when i make a decision i'm not just responsible for
00:27:54.300 the effects it has on people who are already alive i'm responsible for all the effects it's going to
00:27:59.180 have on on people who haven't been born yet as well right like absolutely it's it's wild to me that
00:28:05.900 people just like discount but you see that within this argument right you are fundamentally not allowing
00:28:11.420 entire categories of people to come into existence and these are categories of people that like
00:28:17.340 what is wrong with an american who is taller than you know humans would normally be or who is you know
00:28:23.500 more intelligent than you like you could say like oh what if this this technology goes in a horrible
00:28:28.300 direction the way the technology would go in a horrible direction is what people like us are
00:28:34.860 defending against so if china goes for like the factory model and they begin like factory making
00:28:39.820 humans or something right and that's how they deal with their population collapse and they successfully
00:28:44.540 deal with it they will be able to exercise economic and political power over your descendants lives if
00:28:49.980 if america doesn't have some alternate system from the factory farmed humans so so the the the
00:28:56.780 the doing this from the perspective of cultural sovereignty is the only way the other groups
00:29:01.020 maintain their cultural sovereignty you need some allies who are engaging with this and and i know that
00:29:06.940 the people who are doing this from the perspective of individualism like like our family right like this
00:29:12.140 extreme degree of cultural sovereignty they would have no reason to mess with you or your descendants
00:29:16.140 like like what why would i or my descendants benefit from forcing this technology on your descendants
00:29:22.540 when through not doing that they can out-compete them yeah this is this is how if it imparts a
00:29:29.340 competitive advantage people are going to want to just do this thing this is how the conservative
00:29:34.060 mind versus the progressive mind works yeah progressive mind works by trying to engineer society
00:29:39.260 to be the way you want it to be through coercive laws and everything like that the conservative mind says
00:29:44.460 oh well you know if this does work and do good things then it's going to spread in in usage if it
00:29:50.860 doesn't work if it does bad things then it's not going to spread and you'll get these ridiculous
00:29:54.060 arguments like oh well what if humans become too genetically similar because of this bro you know
00:29:57.820 of the high fertility families only like three percent are going to use this like it's not this this
00:30:02.380 this is my one of my favorite things about our pluralistic accelerationist genetic approach you
00:30:10.380 know like everyone take wildly different approaches to fertility and reproduction is that it will
00:30:16.620 vastly increase the diversity of humanity you know right now people are able to choose among this
00:30:23.260 the traits that humans have now and as things get more advanced there will be entirely new skin colors
00:30:30.060 eye colors hair colors hair types body shapes body parts that you won't see anywhere else we're going to
00:30:37.020 have a vastly more diverse population and varied population than we have now and i want that because
00:30:43.900 one of those traits might end up being really useful i was just reading about this insane bacteria found
00:30:49.740 pervasively in in dirt that's extremely resistant to radiation that could be very helpful for space
00:30:56.220 travel if we manage to integrate some of that into our dna like there's so many cool things that people
00:31:01.340 can adapt and evolve that i want to see happen and if you claim to be in favor of variety and plurality
00:31:10.700 why would you not encourage weird families to pursue but they are not so you've got to understand some
00:31:16.300 conservatives are genuinely concerned by plurality they do not like that there are people different
00:31:21.660 from them that exist alongside they are committed to live in their isolated little communities and be
00:31:26.300 fine and and this perspective comes fundamentally from a perspective of weakness this is very much what
00:31:31.900 niche said when he said you know all of these evils in society come from weakness because it is a fear
00:31:37.900 that your group will be out competed if within an open competitive environment and so what what i find
00:31:43.980 like the modern conservative fights for is real open and fair competitive environments what what
00:31:49.820 progressives fight for is rigged environments or exclusionary environments i was just reading something
00:31:56.220 about yeah the focus being on equality of outcomes which is it's just not going to produce a very healthy
00:32:06.700 world if no matter what you put into something you're you're all going to end up with the same outcome
00:32:13.740 i just can't believe that there are people who are arguing for things like equality of outcomes
00:32:17.420 no it is it is really silly well i mean it it leads to bad things when the when the people participating
00:32:25.740 are not equal right like by this what i mean is they're not of equal capability um and and and
00:32:31.180 keep in mind what it means like you can be like well won't america be worse if we have these people who
00:32:34.540 have this strong belief in cultural sovereignty but some of them like actually all of this technology
00:32:38.540 works or all this engineering works and these people do actually end up being you know significantly
00:32:41.900 more intelligent or something like that um or how how does that hurt like you and your your
00:32:47.580 descendants like these people are going to uplift the american economy they're going to make america
00:32:51.260 better they're going to serve as better in our wars they are going to be able to better protect
00:32:55.820 your descendants in the same way i mean presumably they were they're looking at it as how is my kid
00:33:01.740 ever going to get a job if there are people who through systemic advantage have been how is your
00:33:07.180 kid ever going to get a job if china continues to move ahead with this i know i know i know they're not
00:33:10.780 looking at the bigger picture but yeah yeah they're not misrepresent their fears well it's just it's
00:33:16.700 just very narrow like they're they're they're not considering the wider game at play and how much
00:33:22.140 they're setting up their own children for failure even even if their children continue with their granola
00:33:28.220 ideology it is the cyborgs that protect the granolas in the same way that the amish even though you know
00:33:35.180 they don't engage with military technology or technology they have their lifestyle only because
00:33:39.980 other people do like only because you know the other cultural groups in america are willing to go
00:33:45.500 out and and fight and die so the amish can live their lifestyle because if the police were not
00:33:50.540 defending the amish people would just take their land people would just take their houses right like
00:33:54.620 well and that became an issue with some mennonite settlements in mexico when yeah gangs went crazy
00:34:00.140 which is why many of them moved on to argentina and other places within central and south america
00:34:05.740 yeah i think where a lot of anxiety around this and wanting to ban this type of technology comes
00:34:11.340 from is people who are saying okay well we won't use this type of technology or that type of technology
00:34:18.220 or our culture won't are opting in to be the amish of the future you know 200 300 years from now
00:34:25.660 if their descendants actually hold to their technological limitations they are going to look
00:34:30.700 dramatically technologically undeveloped when contrasted with neighboring cultural groups
00:34:36.300 but unlike the amish they want to try to force everyone to be as technologically underdeveloped as
00:34:41.740 them because they don't like that this is the inevitability of their decisions but the problem
00:34:48.380 is that this is all at the end of the day a larp because they could never really prevent every other
00:34:54.940 cultural group from engaging with this technology they could only prevent the adjacent cultural
00:34:59.980 groups from not using this technology often the cultural groups with value systems as similar to
00:35:05.340 theirs as you know as any other group in the world so they are self-extinguishing their own value
00:35:12.460 system culture and similar cultures and this is this is you know what you are fundamentally opting into
00:35:20.220 when you opt into this sort of anti-vitalistic american framing um and and i am really excited
00:35:27.340 to see how well the conservative party has like this isn't like on the fringes of the conservative
00:35:33.420 movement like warhammer is not on the fringes of like conservative aesthetics these days the concept of
00:35:39.020 the super soldier is core both to our history in captain america and in our present in terms of
00:35:45.340 warhammer and i think will continue to be within our future and to the the interesting thing about
00:35:51.260 this is to blow up the conservative alliance like the the tech bro alliance with the right over this
00:35:55.980 is such a stupid thing because you're not going to be able to win elections on these particular
00:36:00.380 concerns like if you want to go full fuddy-duddy like german status that's not going to win elections
00:36:05.900 in america people are going to like freak out what do you mean you're making ivf illegal like
00:36:09.980 that that is not what the administration will people like oh these ideas aren't conservative they're not
00:36:13.900 conservatives why is the trump administration writing executive orders promoting them you know
00:36:17.260 like they they obviously are whatever we're calling conservative today they might not be what was
00:36:21.820 conservative in the 90s but today you know this is a party of weakness is immorality like let's work
00:36:28.860 to improve ourselves and our country and our society every day and in every way we have access to
00:36:36.220 so we can beat those bloody reds in the face because the reds aren't just in russia anymore they
00:36:41.740 aren't just in china anymore they're right here in our schools controlling our companies and so this
00:36:48.860 isn't a war between super soldiers america is against the chinese this is a war against the american
00:36:55.580 family the true red white and blue american family against the corpo overlords the commie corpos it's
00:37:03.660 funny these two groups somehow joined up but i but i guess it always makes sense you know raising
00:37:08.140 barriers to do business is going to help the big corporation and if you're like well what about elon
00:37:12.780 you know the spat he's having with trump does that break up the tech right alliance and it's like no
00:37:17.340 that has like nothing elon and trump were always the type of people who were going to get in a fight it is
00:37:23.420 shocking that their relationship lasted as long as it did and we are blessed that it lasted until after
00:37:29.100 elon had already left the government and doge was already operating independent of him it's so that you
00:37:35.580 you know the good work of that department can be completed you know my little brother worked for
00:37:40.300 them so i'm really glad that they're doing what they're doing um and that elon and trump were able
00:37:46.540 to get along for as long as they did but the tech right alliance is not dependent on their relationship
00:37:51.900 elon is not king of the tech bros any closing thoughts simone hmm
00:37:59.580 captain america transhumanism we need a proper name for it i don't know well i also think what's really
00:38:05.340 captain america accelerationism is these captain america acceleration is that's pretty good yeah
00:38:10.540 is you or bio acceleration is a term that i frequently use is you have these people who
00:38:17.020 you know because there are these old like pearl clutching conservatives that don't really have
00:38:20.060 that much cultural power anywhere the reason why they don't is we realize that pearl clutching could be
00:38:23.740 used by the left to control us the moment we realize oh that's offensive like oh no don't go
00:38:28.300 don't be too whatever a lot of them you know they still exist in places online and they'll try to
00:38:32.540 like shut down things like ai art or music or stuff like that and you see them all over the
00:38:37.260 progressive space but you still see a trickle of them in conservative spaces and it they like i want
00:38:41.580 to like be honest with you guys you guys look so buffoonish like we know from the big study that was
00:38:46.140 done on this that people who say they don't like a art art when they don't know it's ai art they prefer
00:38:51.420 it so what that says to me is that this position that you have where you're talking about how horrible
00:38:57.580 everything done by ai is is a completely performative position done uh likely because
00:39:03.980 you think it somehow positively augments your status and all the ai slop i've seen really is
00:39:08.860 human slop yeah it's it's what a person with bad ai skills and taste has created so yeah i don't know
00:39:16.060 man well no no no these individuals they believe that they are you know when they post this either
00:39:22.540 they're trying to like positively augment their own status they're trying to look more conservative but
00:39:25.980 within a system that doesn't value what they're doing anymore i mean the party has moved back to
00:39:30.060 that like we're the party of like anime and shinzo abe now like grow up man like like what we realized
00:39:35.260 is pearl clutching could be used and not just to enforce good cultural values but to restrain humanity
00:39:42.700 from continued vitalism and improvement and just as you are attempting to do right like to restrain our
00:39:49.660 country's potential greatness and that is why we're just like yeah whatever like i i do anime
00:39:56.220 i do ai and all things i have my kids stuck with ai stuffed animals with like our whistling.ai app and
00:40:01.340 our and i give my kids to ai socratic tutors with paresia.io or i you know like come on man like i even
00:40:09.500 i even made a new ai like book we're leaning headfirst into the future to whatever extent we can
00:40:16.140 even outpacing some of our most future forward friends we gotta get them back on board so let's do it
00:40:22.300 let's keep going malcolm thank you for not not being a luddite about this
00:40:29.020 our family is so lean into all of this like you every day i i feel so thankful that i don't have
00:40:35.580 a wife who's one of these pearl clutchers gosh it would be just to like be in a relationship
00:40:41.180 i don't know if anyone is in a relationship like that i'm curious to hear what it's like where
00:40:45.580 one of you is an accelerationist and one of you is more of like a let's go no screens i don't believe
00:40:50.860 in this tech because it would be i think it would be a lot like like one believes in corporal punishment
00:40:56.460 the other one doesn't or one's really permissive and the other one's not like that level of
00:40:59.900 that level of misalignment could be just so fundamentally stressful i am grateful too for
00:41:06.300 not being that thanks malcolm yeah i well yeah i appreciate it when it does show that like i that
00:41:12.620 the reason i think like the the backwards culture or the the greater appalachian culture which we come
00:41:17.500 from has been more open to being pro this stuff is because it's always been sort of a culture of
00:41:21.980 trolling um it always sort of a culture of the moment somebody goes out and tries to like control the the
00:41:28.060 the morality like oh do this and do this or you're doing it the wrong way i think it was a very fact
00:41:33.260 that so many people went out there and started doing that around ai that and started doing that
00:41:37.100 around anime made this culture lean into all that but it'd be like yeah whatever man like if you say
00:41:43.020 it's terrible like i want to at least engage with it see what it's like you know and then i i do and
00:41:47.340 i'm like hey if i can post this and annoy somebody who's a pearl clutcher like of course i'm gonna do
00:41:52.700 that right like because it it one countries who don't engage with this stuff are going to be made
00:42:00.700 irrelevant in the context of civilizational history yeah and that's just like obvious like
00:42:07.580 it's i don't understand how you could argue anything else and so like why are you arguing
00:42:11.580 for weakness and yeah i mean you can either be a footnote in history or you can represent the future
00:42:17.180 well yeah and i i think that that's what these people fundamentally they're representing in the same
00:42:20.700 way progressives do for weakness because they see cultural value and weakness yeah but anyway
00:42:27.740 i love you to death simone i love you too the flesh is soft the blood is thin but in this forge the strong
00:42:38.780 not gods not ghosts just sharpened clay refined with each relentless day
00:42:50.700 you speak of love i speak of line of blood distilled to cut through time no rotting kings
00:42:57.980 no deathless worms just sons reborn in stronger forms you want your ghost to whisper low i want
00:43:04.220 my legions built to grow not endless life but better birth a rising storm to flood the earth
00:43:10.780 blood must build not stall or sleep the mountains high the valleys deep we climb with fire we fall with pride
00:43:25.340 so stronger hands may stem the tide you beg for peace i call that theft you had your chance there's nothing
00:43:34.140 left the weak inherit open graves we raise the kind that cannot cave not gods not ghosts not endless night
00:43:41.420 but generations honed to fight your future ends in sterile tears ours marches loud for thousand years
00:43:48.220 no teardrop serum no glass dome no cowards upload far from home i forged the blood that grips the knife
00:43:55.100 that burns are dry through pain and strife blood must build not stall or sleep the mountains high the valleys deep
00:44:09.100 we climb with fire we fall with pride so stronger hands may stem the tide you call it dark this sacred
00:44:19.900 right to breathe the beast that guards the light but tell me what has weakness
00:44:29.420 a nation drunk a future rot