Two Contrasting Animes Show How to Live Life & Win Elections
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the two contrasting two anime in which the main characters relate to the world very differently and how that affects their mental health. We also discuss how much I have disdain for the pre-Maga form of conservatism, and specifically the form of it that didn t like grow up when conservatism became mega great example of this.
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this guy represents is the iteration of the conservative party that the conservative party
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lost the the pearl clutchers the oh my god how could they be doing something different oh my
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god how could this be vulgar oh my god how could this be you know oh anime girls anime like matt
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walsh represents this faction right like where he's always railing against things like anime
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and video games now we're not gonna be able to karaoke with the guys no way we've got plenty of
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time then we have the second anime that we're going to be talking about and people could argue
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that all of mega is kind of doing it it opened this is hard to watch
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would you like to know more hello simone i am excited to be talking to you today
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today we are going to be talking about two things one is contrasting two animes in which the main
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characters relate to the world very differently and i think through the contrast of these two
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characters we can learn a lot about mental health and how both the urban monoculture but also the
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older conservative culture ends up breaking apart people's minds and causing them to go sort of
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crazy but we will also be focused on how much i have disdain for the pre-maga form of conservatism
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um or specifically the form of it that didn't like grow up when conservatism became mega great example
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of this and what got me thinking about this was an article that came out about us recently
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by this guy who was just absolutely railing on us you're referring to a piece that came out in the
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bulwark it's called the two faces of pronatalism and it's by jonathan last who apparently also wrote a
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book on pronatalism at one point which i guess is one reason why he feels like he's just figured it out
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yeah so perhaps the second and third most famous natalists in america are michael and simone
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collins he really does his research doesn't he really does his research thanks to many many
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press profiles of this activist 30-something couple which is not read apparently here's a sample of their
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views on parenthood every decision that collins has made is backed by data nominative determinism is a
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heavily studied field malcolm tells me when i ask about his children's names girls that have gender
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neutral names are more likely to have high paying careers and to get stem degrees names like titan
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industry are much more than gender neutral i say we wanted to give our kids strong names we wanted our
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kids to have a strong internal locus of control he continues almost all the toys are gifts malcolm
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says almost apologetically we don't throw out anything that gets sent to us both boys have their
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own ipads fitted with a strap so they can wear them around their necks two-year-old torsten is alone
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somewhere with his jokes on them the kids broke those straps so freaking fast yes they take me
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upstairs as well as having separate offices simone and malcolm sleep in different bedrooms simone shows
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me some decorations in the living room they relate to the intentionally constructed religion technically
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asius they have internally developed to provide a moral framework promoting their values for
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pronatalist families instead of christmas they have future day the future police come and take their
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toys and then they have to write a contract about how they're going to make the world a better place
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to get their toys back with some gifts and stuff they get more gifts when they do whatever they said
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they were going to do what does christmas teach them get random toys if you're vaguely good and so that
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was a quote that he had from a different article and so you know here i am specifically the guardian article
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yeah i read that i'm like yeah that sounds pretty interesting and cool like obviously we're not going along with
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what's socially normative but like yeah and he's like i am not one to judge other parents but that's
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effed up let me proceed to judge from you're right no but the the point i'm making here is that this is
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an individual who is like oh guffaw clutch my pearls people are doing things new so i looked up this guy
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and i go what else is he known for he's known for being a never trumper conservative he wrote a long
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piece about how amazing biden was for example he wrote i hope you drink it in last night it's one
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of the most human memories i've ever seen in politics from the second the president stepped
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on stage and embraced his daughter but it was more than that it was america saying goodbye to this
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ordinary man who has become an extraordinary president a president who saved our democracy
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this is one of those cases where the crayon strip doesn't give you enough context you need to see the
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video you need to see biden's face and feel the vibrations coming from the crowd and you absolutely
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need to watch his final section where he transitions from campaign speech to valediction and i i i think
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somebody who can write with that much passion about joe biden i i what i realize is what this guy
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represents is the iteration of the conservative party that the conservative party lost as it took
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on people like you and me the the pearl clutchers the oh my god how could they be doing something
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different oh my god how could this be vulgar oh my god how could this be you know oh anime girls
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anime like matt walsh represents this faction right like where he's always railing against things like
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anime and video games and it's like okay you know and i don't even think like okay boomer because
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it's not boomer it's like a very specific faction of curmudgeon yeah it's it's not even curmudgeonly
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it's like defeatist it reminds me a lot of pro-natalism in the uk where it's like oh things are just bad
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aren't they there's nothing we can do about it and i just don't like it i think from the difference
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between these two groups and we will look at this through anime we can understand how to improve our
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own mental health more which is really because you can tell that an individual like this like you
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and i are like living our lives out and proud and weird and we are clearly loving it like every day
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i'm like this is the best life i could ever have and this guy clearly feels like the world's falling
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apart around him you know oh everything was better in the past oh you know this is all so sad and you
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and i are constantly like look at all the cool things i can do with ai now this is amazing what
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a time to be alive and so there's these two animes one anime that we will be looking at is around a
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character called tomo tomoko and it's called what i'm what what i'm out and it's and i'll put some
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clips of it here to give you like a vibe of it it's about a young girl in middle school or early
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high school who is very very socially anxious and she really really wants to be accepted by other
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people and she just keeps self-destructing through her self-anxiety and intense desire for acceptance
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by the community dance friends now we're not gonna be able to karaoke with the guys no way we've got
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plenty of time and they're dumb sluts oh yeah we do it like every day wow she's definitely still a
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virgin be sure to drink plenty of liquids and take precautions against heat stroke
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go ahead and work yourselves to death corporate slave
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seriously it doesn't even matter and it is a anime that the entire like it's a well-done anime but the
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entire vibe of the anime is depression and and social rejection wow but i think a lot of people feel
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like oh i get this right like i want it resonates with them so you think it's a popular anime
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because people get it and they yeah it's like an anime dedicated to like a proto hikikomori
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like you know i'm going to school but i don't really want to be here like what am i doing here etc
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then we have the second anime that we're going to be talking about and this anime is called
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chinubu and it is an anime uh about a girl that is equally socially awkward she's going
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through a stage that they have in japan i've actually heard what's called like magic girl
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stage or something but it's a it's something that we saw when we were kids some kids did and you know
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i i went through phases where you do things like this in like middle school or high school and people
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could argue that we're still kind of doing it that all of mega is kind of doing it which is to say
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she dresses up like she is a magical girl what was like a air eye patch that she doesn't need and
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then under the eye patch oh classic contact to try to make her look like special
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this flavor this must be the work of the dark organization for our safety i shall seal it
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oh one moment please i'll put it back in it was a contact all along this is hard to watch
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pretty nice red fruits can have seriously negative effects on one's powers this one curbs magical
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abilities are you trying to say you don't like tomatoes this green squishy area is particularly
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dangerous just look at it there's obviously something diabolical going on are they really
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and she the pretends like the world she's living in is one in which there's these like
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magical beasts everywhere oh last night i was searching for the invisible boundary lines when
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suddenly a ferocious beast appeared before me so i caught him do you really plan on keeping him yes
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he will become my loyal familiar as a creature from the realm of darkness chimera has the power to
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locate invisible boundary lines is is this the one and this girl like hangs out at the apartment of
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someone else who just kind of tolerates her well so he learns to accept her as the show goes on
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she's the type of person who like stands in front of like a train right before the the train doors
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open and puts out her hand like she's forcing the doors
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i think i've seen clips of this yes look to learn look at the guy who is watching like very self-satisfied
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you know like i did that yeah and the the sort of plot of this one is this guy that you are
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thinking of he's a guy who used to be like this he used to when he was in middle school do all of
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this stuff and he's just gone to high school and he wants a clean state and to be like the mature cool
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every man but he used to write like fan fiction basically about this world and the character that
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he built for it and now this girl is obsessed with that version of him the middle school version of
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him and is constantly trying to get him like back into that lifestyle um and it comes out as the
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show develops that she adopted a lot of this because her dad died and it was a way that she could
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create a world where she could believe she could still communicate with him in a way so she's in
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an objectively worse like world and state than the girl in the depressed anyway like both of these
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enemies are girls around the same age both of these girls are social rejects both of these girls are
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girls that most of the people in their class when they look at them would look at them with derision
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but one of these girls is living an amazing life where she is like clearly thrilled with what's
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happening every day yes i can't believe you have roller skates in your shoes are you a kid they
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provide excellent mobility also with these when i come under enemy fire clang clang
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what's up there there's some weird girl standing outside maybe all come back is shaking their next
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lives and the difference between them is a few things one it's personal choice it's how do they
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contextualize a lot of if you look at like maga right one of the sort of the totems of maga of
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maga jokes of maga art of like the back color of like man's world which is so you know new right
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that it was in a magazine mocking the new right they what was it new yorker they drew a man's world
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cover on the wall oh the npr yeah so so even npr is like yes if you are a new right you have your
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man's world you know thing they had like this this triumvirate of a big t-word anime girl trump
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and then shinzo abe and and shinzo abe is part of this because of the memes like shinzo abe protecting
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trump from the grave like when he was almost shot or the the reddit witches saying we keep trying to
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cast a spell on trump but whatever we do we can't seem to get his numbers down in the polls and then
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they'll post this was like a shinzo abe going like this you know or you know have babies you know
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shinzo abe and then like see you let airspace cowboy and we know like i don't think anyone
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who's making these jokes thinks shinzo abe is really doing this he's really out there protecting
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trump what they are doing is in the same way this girl like throws out her hand like i'm opening the
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the doors on this train they are doing that with this they are leaning into something that we're all
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like yeah but it's more fun to pretend that shinzo abe is out there thwarting yeah it's it's choosing
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a world that's not necessarily real but committing to the bit and loving it having a lot of fun works
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that's not it's like the adult version of pretend and it totally does work this is a magic potion it'll
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replenish your magical energy the bureau hides it in plain sight yeah and people can look at you guys
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and they'll be like well so much of you know when i see some of your rhetoric and you're talking about
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like the urban monoculture is being like sauron like out there you know searching for your you
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know band of misfits for like all different you know tribes and coalitions and races you know your
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dwarves and your elves and your and your high elves and then your your hobbits i don't know what we
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would be within this this coalition we're what dwarves probably the cast are we because we want to
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modify humans they they no but the point being is they have this coalition and this is the way we
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really see it and they're like and maga sort of paints itself as fighting this like apocalyptic
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battle for like human civilization and like aren't they delusional and it's like no it's useful in terms
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of guiding action and getting people excited and it's fun and you're right and exactly this very
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christian fuddy-duddy approach to life that's very low energy is also something i actually saw in a piece
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that came out today in christianity today the publication christianity today called neither pity
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nor pedestal by kate lucky and she even writes about us that uh well she she refers to one of our
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our lucid car seat law executive order and our national medal of motherhood executive order and
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then says that idea came via draft executive order from simone and malcolm collins two of the most
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provocative figures in an informal pronatalist coalition of conservative religious family values
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types and catastrophist techno utopians members of the latter group the collinses believe that declining
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birth rates will prove apocalyptic and that having children is a civilization civilization saving
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imperative so you're totally right that this low energy she's like can't we be lower energy about
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yeah like yeah yeah why are they so extra why do they have to catastrophize this why are they techno
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utopians like she frames it as like well of course you know pronatalism is is of the normal christian
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family values people and then it's these crazy cosplayer larpers who have no reason to be here
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so you're absolutely right that we are very consistently framed and categorized that way but
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we're also having a lot more fun than they are i give up who are you the one who wields the mjolnir
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hammer is sanai dekomori rejoice for i have arrived mjolnir join us
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first level seal activated magical output increased
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cut it out and give us a hand youtube no the thing is it's one of these things where what's very
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important to understand is we understand where we're larping we understand where the lines are
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we don't actually expect shinzo abe to have our back but as you've said before too and i i think this
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is 100 accurate all culture is a larp yes their alarm just is lame but the the point i'm making
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simone is yes it's a larp yes it's out there yes it's over the top but it is all over the top
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with an end goal right like it's not like we are we allow inaccurate beliefs about reality
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to cloud our vision in a way that leads to misplaced action that is where you have problems
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right like where you believe in the magic or whatever and so you you spend your money on etsy
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spells or you you know there there are ways that this can go wrong but what the new right has done
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is normalized the joke of it while also larping with it you have to really appreciate though that
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we do literally live in an age where there are at least a handful of people who probably make their
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entire income by selling magical spells on the internet and i really love that the whole episode
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about that if people want to go to it yeah but i'm thinking here about like you know freedom tunes
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channel i really love he probably wouldn't like us we i don't know but he does these great cartoons
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and one when the left freaked out about like eating dogs and cats comment by trump is he made a whole
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video about like migrants dancing was like forks and knives around a dog they're cooking and then leftists
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keep coming up and explaining like this is likely not accurate and what's funny is the point we don't care
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like the point of the joke is we don't care whether it's true it's the gist of it that we care about
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right the gist of it is people are coming over with vastly different cultural values than ours
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and normal americans end up suffering as a result of this we don't care that you're like oh there
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wasn't a hard confirmed report about that yeah that has to be like a lot of people just feel like hey
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it's not cool that the government doesn't have its its business in order for taking care of me as a
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citizen why is it taking care of non-citizen that's really the the basis of it
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there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed injured or abused
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eating the dogs they're eating the cats eat the cat eat the cat the springfield ohio police department
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has debunked this very bizarre and very hateful
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the point i'm making is is that when leftists attack this they think that they're trying to
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convince us that like immigrants aren't actually eating dogs and cats and i'm like that is
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literally irrelevant and if anything it's funny that you are so working yourself up in knots to try
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to convince us of that because this is like a vibe for us right um and the other thing that's really
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clear throughout the differences between these two animes is in what a mode where she's she desperately
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wants the validation of everyone she doesn't really have any friends she doesn't really know
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these other people who she wants validation but she's classic spoonie upper middle class middle class
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female angst she wants yeah she wants to be popular she wants the other girls and boys to want to talk to
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her and to think she looks cool like she'll do things like practice like cool looking poses in the
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mirror before going to school and then try them at school and when other people don't react you know
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she'll like have a breakdown you know like the the other girl in meanwhile is like trying to create
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like little stand-ins for like magical girl powers and like goes at school or like she has a friend
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that has ponytails but she attaches things to the end of the ponytail so she can swing them like a
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magical girl would in like a battle oh that's so cute and there's like and and they know that this is
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like there's a scene where like they create like a summoning circle and the show does this fun thing of
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constantly switching between what they're seeing and then what the people who aren't buying into their
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alternate world are seeing and then it switches to what everyone else is seeing and it's the girls like
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spinning around in circles and around them is like a concentric circle of like christmas lights you know
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that they that they've made to be their magical portal or whatever and like they're having a blast
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you can be like but it's just christmas lights and it's like stop being such a downer man like we're
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having fun here but the important thing about these girls and in this one is they don't want the
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validation of everyone in fact they don't care what most of the other students think she cares about
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what people with values that align with her values think that's why she goes after the boy who had
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written these like fan fictions that she got really into that's why it was the other girlfriends that she
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hangs out with or that end up being drawn to her and this guy they're the other few people that play
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this like pretend way of living life right you know and they care about what each other think
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but they don't care about what the rest of the class thinks and so there isn't ever this you know
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i think that that's such an important thing to redirect your life around and it's something that
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this older anti-maga republican class right that they're going out there and they're like well you
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wouldn't want to do anything that would have people look look down on you you know you wouldn't want to
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do anything that would make you look weird you wouldn't want to and i think if you look at like
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the garishness of a lot of the things that trump does you see no he wants to appeal to specific
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people but he doesn't care about everyone like most people would think his design is pretty trashy
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yeah like pretty much anything elon does he just seems to be too autistic to to notice he likes you
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know the trolling if you look at us it's not that we don't care what people think we care what people
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with aligned values think right you know if we bring somebody we don't regard the opinion of
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many people because their values are not aligned with us and therefore they're not relevant to us
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why would you care about somebody like that like they're not like you they don't have the same
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values so what makes other people so afraid of this do they assume that the people whose regard
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they're attempting to garner have aligned values with them or they're just they're not thinking
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about it at all they don't have their own values what what is it i think it's that they don't
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really have their own values i think it's that they value social conformity above all else and
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they're just mad that what society is socially conforming around is changing they were it's a
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class of people who grew up and were christians or were catholics or were jews because everyone
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around them was christian or catholics or jews um and and this is what was you know prestigious and
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this is what was normal and they laughed at the you know liberals because the liberals well they
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weren't conforming in the right way they they weren't like you know the proper people but now
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by every standard the proper people are the the urban monoculture are the progressives and these
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people are just sort of like left shouting at the wind right like how dare you how dare you change
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and how dare you change and and what's going on here where where is the good old conservators of
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the past who just you know never offended anyone and always and and why did that form of conservatism
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die out why did the well we don't want to you know rustle any jimmies here because the left figured out
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that they were very easy to control all you needed to do was pretend to be offended and they would back
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down and and so they and we've seen that the left really weaponized this strategy is pretend that
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something that is a normal thing to do is just like how could you even begin to say something like
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there's only men and women right like you know the how how could you say something like that this is so
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outlandishly offensive and and and then they they capture that conversation because people like this
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guy would have been like oh well if somebody's getting offended i guess this is where i stop
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and then the other culture the culture that went into conservatives like no let's lean into
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being the weird anime girl let's or do you think i mean you you did one episode for example on on
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discussed driven cultures and one thing that also stands out to me in that neither pity nor pedestal
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article that i mentioned to you is she mentions on several occasions that things about us give her the
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ick that like she doesn't she she appreciates that for example that we're against eugenics and yet
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our concept of polygenics still gives her the ick and she appreciates other things that we do but she
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still doesn't like them and i think so so it's interesting so look she's don't don't you think
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this is disgust driven too though i mean i feel like i think it's disgust driven but i think what people
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like this don't realize is how because you know she works for an old conservative outlet right so
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she probably got this job and like the old conservative regime appealing to older conservatives
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who don't really realize culture has changed and so you know she thinks that she's signaling like her
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own status with this piece she thinks she's signaling how like well you know i'm like one of the
00:27:45.940
the good ones right like i know you know what's normative and what's not normative and i shame
00:27:50.960
non-normative behavior but the thing about the new conservative culture whether it's the new right
00:27:56.400
or maga is that if you go out there and you list like you try to drive other people's behavior by being
00:28:04.260
like oh this thing that you're doing is is ick or this thing that you're doing is ick people are
00:28:11.320
generally going to be like sort of push you out and not really like you because they're like oh
00:28:15.820
you're going out there trying to control other people like this worked in the last conservative
00:28:20.060
ecosystem this is not something that works in this conservative ecosystem in fact this is something
00:28:24.780
that the wokies do like when she goes out there and says oh they're giving me the ick i'm like oh
00:28:28.940
so you're using a woke structure of argument there you're being like don't you see how weird you are
00:28:34.320
don't you see how different you are why don't you act more like what the universities say we should be
00:28:38.920
acting like why don't you act more like what the proper people in society say you should be working
00:28:43.000
like and so i think that it's interesting is that she thinks that she's signaling you know her
00:28:48.560
status and she is to a certain community of like older school you know aging people from like the
00:28:55.700
evangelical revolution but her message i think invalidates her in the eyes of a lot of younger
00:29:01.980
conservatives which is why we're seeing younger conservatives move to things like youtube watching
00:29:06.660
our videos i'd be very surprised if something like her article got as many views as like an average one
00:29:11.280
of our videos like that's just the way things are these days because this is the new like it's just
00:29:18.420
more fun like as soon as people realize you can do this without acting the way that she's acting
00:29:22.080
you're like oh this is fun you know you see somebody shaming this stuff especially when they're shaming
00:29:26.200
like fairly normal and like not particularly over the line positions of ours like hey we should be
00:29:32.160
awarding mothers like and she's like well i don't know that could ruffle some jimmy awarding mothers
00:29:37.040
well literally the argument she makes actually is like well but awarding mothers implies that they
00:29:41.660
make some kind of sacrifice that being a mother is is is hard and that it neutralizes your personality
00:29:48.120
and she's putting all these things on it that don't even exist like well no but i mean i think that
00:29:52.640
this is what she's talking about she's like oh and she says obviously being a mom is a sacrifice
00:29:58.480
like obviously it is it's hard what are you talking about lady like my wife works her butt off
00:30:04.400
like being a mom right and you work your butt off being a dad yeah contributing to the next generation
00:30:09.620
is a sacrifice and you can say well it's fun and everything like that but like why shouldn't we
00:30:14.180
be honoring that yeah and here she is she has one toddler child and she says that she's pernatalist
00:30:19.880
but here she is saying like the article's literally titled neither pity nor pedestal that like parents
00:30:25.340
should not be pedestalized and parents should not be pitied and that a problem with pernatalist
00:30:30.660
policies as they do either or both of those things and it's like well no but it's this type
00:30:36.420
of conservative just doesn't have kids yeah no she's it doesn't seem like she's super stoked to
00:30:42.700
have more herself it's it's odd yeah this low energy well i mean part of me wonders like i could see that
00:30:51.560
this this this could exist and be sustainable in a pre-tech age where you're very afraid of being kicked
00:30:58.300
out of your village because that means death but we don't live in that age anymore so it's a little
00:31:05.560
different yeah well i mean i think that that these cultures and these people like it's one of these
00:31:12.160
things where like they're out there and they're like well what do you think of us shaming you and i
00:31:16.380
was like i think as much of you shaming me as a character in shinibo would think of a character in
00:31:22.500
like moto was like concerned that that the shinibo girls are acting weird it's like yeah but you're
00:31:29.580
sitting there depressed in a corner with no friends like what why why is what we're doing so we're
00:31:36.620
having fun here like come join the fun side come join the the anime girls and shinzo abe's magic and
00:31:47.540
um you know the 4chan and trolling and weird grammar and language like you get was like bronze age
00:31:54.460
pervert and i mean i think the the importance on the weird side is also you know not attacking people
00:32:01.480
unless they're attacking other people like this is where we want people to be we want people to be
00:32:06.220
over here on this side and understand that people can express vastly different beliefs but as long as
00:32:14.000
they are playing nice with everyone else on this side we should always just being trying to
00:32:20.320
positively signal boost them like bronze age pervert has like radically different beliefs than we do
00:32:24.860
you know zero hp lovecraft has radically different beliefs than we do but i've read their stuff and i'm
00:32:29.820
like it's interesting and definitely worth engaging with you know and i would encourage other people to
00:32:34.280
to engage with it absolutely yeah to get a variety of views and sharpen your own and you're not going to
00:32:41.600
really sharpen your own views and have stronger convictions if you can't contrast what you believe
00:32:47.840
to what other people believe so i totally i'm with you on that i almost feel like also religion at its best
00:32:54.720
is this it is extra it is adding magical world elements and demons and and angels and guardians and
00:33:05.600
temptation and all of these additional bits of magic and intrigue to your life yeah and the type
00:33:12.180
of religion that i see practiced here is the the type of religion that mostly has lost faith because
00:33:18.360
the world isn't magical like that for it's a gray religion is the only way i can say it yeah the world in
00:33:23.520
shades of gray instead of vibrant yeah these people aren't speaking in tongues these people aren't
00:33:27.860
holding snakes these people aren't talking to angels these people they're they're not and i think that
00:33:33.900
they're also just kind of showing up and going through the motions and i don't care what you do
00:33:39.200
as part of your religion but i i see all of those extra actions the things that people raise their
00:33:45.380
eyebrows and in reaction to seeing as a sign of really leaning in and having maybe a harder religion
00:33:52.040
so well yeah but i also think that the thing about this like leaning all in going crazy with this
00:33:59.100
is that it effing works somehow you know i've joked about how like us just sending in the executive
00:34:05.420
orders is like that scene in gurun lagun where he just takes the other mech and he's like combine
00:34:10.620
and he just sticks it in his head and it somehow works we'll never know unless we try will we
00:34:16.200
you see that what do you think fuzzball we're the same as you
00:34:26.000
wow we were really able to combine you were right bro you were right sure looks that way doesn't
00:34:34.360
wait how could you combine and then it's like that's not how you what are you doing that's not
00:34:41.960
how you combine robots but that's that's basically what we did is we just sent this out there and
00:34:48.260
almost like there's there's a great gambling anime called oh god i love that anime it's like the
00:34:53.180
gambling school anime so good like us going into the world of these really petty press people who
00:35:01.660
all wanted us to fail it was like entering this this gambling school in this anime where it's all
00:35:07.140
of these like high class cliques like laughing at us the people who don't know what they're doing
00:35:11.840
and thinking about how they're going to cheat us like the way that they screw over every other like
00:35:17.120
new person into into complete destitution was there like crooked press tactics because we're
00:35:23.240
just so unsophisticated and that what they don't understand is that we love gambling they don't
00:35:29.140
understand is that we actually are quite good with the online trolling and press game but also like
00:35:34.160
for us it's it's the thrill it's the fun of it that we're we're there because it we like it and
00:35:38.560
they're there it's hilarious when they freak out and they start reading and them trying to like
00:35:43.760
outplay or destroy us they end up having a reporter ask trump directly you know what do you think
00:35:51.180
about these pro natalist policies and he goes well they sound like a good idea to me and i'm like i
00:35:56.280
wasn't going to be able to get a policy directly to trump but thank you for getting a policy directly
00:36:01.360
to trump on my behalf through your panic like and then they end up like one of those because the
00:36:08.020
way it always works for the gambling one is some girl will take this girl and they'll have this scam
00:36:12.640
and this plan to screw her over and then what they realize as it begins to play through is one
00:36:18.820
she knows everything they're doing before they do it and two she doesn't actually care about winning
00:36:25.360
or screwing people over in the way that they do she just really loves games of chance oh man and they
00:36:32.520
always end up quite freaked out because they they realize when they're not in control anymore and i think
00:36:38.780
that's the way a lot of the press has been with us or the guardian like at first the guardian was
00:36:42.500
all nice like you know like one of those anime girls oh we're going to screw over these simpletons
00:36:48.660
and as we began to talk with them more and more the reporters were more like aggressively hostile
00:36:52.700
to us because they were like i know your strategies i know your thing and i'm like oh i know you do i
00:36:59.420
know you do so here's come play with me medals to mothers a very simple thing that will make you
00:37:06.500
sound very misogynistic if you attack it but the nazis also did something like this i mean yes
00:37:12.680
the modern french government does this yes stalin did this yes governments throughout history even
00:37:17.380
the united states used to do this but you are not going to be able to resist saying nazis did it and
00:37:22.920
so you're going to go out there and you're going to attack a program that will make it look like you're
00:37:27.540
attacking mothers because you know this is the one again we give medals to scientists who sacrifice for
00:37:33.000
the future medals to warriors who sacrifice for the future medals to industrialists why not mothers
00:37:38.060
oh because it's something only women can do you know you're going to look misogynistic and i can tell
00:37:43.900
you every single part of my plan and i know you won't be able to resist making a fool of yourself
00:37:54.240
it's like i i hold them from punching themselves in the face for a minute and i'm like
00:38:17.620
you sure you want me to like you're just gonna punch yourself in the face again and they're like
00:38:22.220
no i got it this time well what i think is interesting about the shows that you highlighted
00:38:25.360
though especially the ones that have these characters in them that the audience understands
00:38:30.920
are delusional is that there's a certain allure to that lifestyle and i think most people just don't
00:38:37.460
know how to bridge that gap how do you get to that point where you can dance like there's no one
00:38:44.160
looking right you know people say that but very few people find themselves capable of doing that
00:38:50.000
maybe it's a lifetime of practice but i feel like most of our audience already has this capability
00:38:55.480
you know they because they're autistic that doesn't count that's like a free pass no no no hold on i
00:39:01.020
don't think it's just being autistic i think it's it's being imaginative being engaged with the world
00:39:05.500
being able to be like i'm in a fight for human civilization and yes there may be several layers
00:39:10.560
of abstraction between like my daily actions in that battle but like why not treat every morning when you
00:39:18.140
wake up like civilization depends on your actions like why not treat every job you do every email
00:39:24.320
you send like you are in a now i'm not saying act like a crazy person where other people think you're
00:39:30.560
a crazy person you know you are dressed up one thing that's happened to me recently is from fans
00:39:34.780
i realize now that i'm interacting with with random people some of which are smart some of which
00:39:38.780
are complete idiots is people do not realize how much not using proper email etiquette
00:39:45.120
makes you look like a complete idiot like if you send me an email like if you are a a random person
00:39:52.340
or a lower status person sending an email now it's okay for high status people to send lower status
00:39:56.100
email people emails that aren't properly formatted but if you're like a fan reaching out to us and you
00:40:01.040
don't write like hi malcolm comma body of email best name like i'm like oh this person probably has
00:40:08.700
like a mental illness or they weren't educated or because one thing i can know is somebody who's like
00:40:14.400
well i'm a genius and i feel all these and i and i don't do that and i'm like it doesn't matter if
00:40:19.080
you're a genius you're never going to be able to raise vc money you're never going to be because if
00:40:22.540
you didn't know to do that to me you definitely didn't know to do that when you're trying to raise
00:40:26.180
money you definitely didn't know to do that when you know you were going out and you know trying to
00:40:32.400
build b2b partnerships so like yeah you might be a genius but that genius is all trapped in your head
00:40:39.400
and true genius is knowing how to interact with other people in a way that would actually engage
00:40:43.920
them rather than a way that masturbates your own self-image yeah not wrong well i mean this is just
00:40:51.520
true a lot of people just engage in a way that masturbates their own self-image well and i mean
00:40:55.480
especially now people have no excuse when it comes to polished looking communication because you can
00:41:01.300
literally ask an ai like you can you can put in your drivel or what you think is acceptable and just
00:41:08.120
be like hey can you make this a little more acceptable and guess what it's going to find
00:41:11.500
something wrong and it's going to fix it for you so but i think i don't know i think a lot of people
00:41:15.480
just don't realize that and they're probably also a lot of people out there who are just mentally ill
00:41:19.180
and incapable of doing that yeah or too personally arrogant or self-important to do it um and here i
00:41:26.060
would note a final anime that i think refs is because if you look at something like chimunyo or
00:41:32.060
whatever you're looking at this anime and you're like okay but like the characters aren't successful
00:41:35.420
they're just kids etc that doesn't mean that you can't combine the pretend with being actually
00:41:43.260
competent at being successful a great anime that's an example of this of the animes i've mentioned it's
00:41:48.060
my favorite to watch is eminence and the shadows and it's a familiar what's this one about it's an
00:41:54.740
izake about a guy who is actually quite competent who ends up getting izaked that means brought back in
00:41:59.700
another world i've i've written one of those that i gave you to listen to with an ai so let's see how
00:42:04.320
that turns out but it's called the arrogant pragmatist gets izaked but anyway so i'll try
00:42:09.660
to add that one to this video as well if you guys want to check out like some of the stories i've
00:42:12.700
been trying to put together with ai so you know it's it'll be a bit different than a traditional
00:42:17.060
story because it's more like me playing through an izake but in this one so he gets izaked and then
00:42:21.140
he's like you know what i'm gonna pretend like i'm running like a shadowy organization that's
00:42:25.400
fighting other shadowy organizations and of course other shadowy organizations turn out to actually
00:42:30.280
exist and he is actually quite competent and he actually ends up building out this giant network
00:42:35.780
that's fighting these other organizations through what he sees as just like goofing around but like
00:42:41.260
everybody else loves it because he's being extra with everything he's doing the whole villainous
00:42:46.780
behind the scenes outfit and poses and meeting with people conspiratorially and people want to like
00:42:53.440
lean into that even if it's a little fake and i think that when we dropped the the disgust based
00:43:00.480
moral framing like oh don't do that that's like weird and ick like i think people realize it's like
00:43:06.620
oh as soon as i don't care about people who think like that anymore well now i can sort of be extra
00:43:13.420
you know i can i can have god emperor trump and talk about him this was a big meme you know during
00:43:18.520
previous election cycles it comes from warhammer and they made like giant floats of god emperor trump
00:43:23.820
and everything like that and it's it's fun people will see the white house press account they're like
00:43:28.960
the white house press account it tweeted something like check out the covid.org page i think you'll
00:43:34.740
find this pretty funny and they made the whole page just like an explanation of how the lab leak scam
00:43:41.120
was tried to be covered up and how it all points back to fauci um and people were like french
00:43:47.880
outlets were like oh chocolate blue like this is not proper manners you cannot do this because
00:43:53.980
i want to surprise i count and meanwhile everyone else is like what like it serves the purpose it's
00:43:59.020
funny it's more engaging like what do you mean you're trying to shame us into your manners in a way
00:44:06.460
that hurts the message and this is really what i'm talking about with something like sending proper
00:44:10.280
emails versus doing tweets right like with tweets you're doing this to a broad audience you're trying
00:44:15.500
to get people to engage with it when it comes to sending like properly structured emails it's like
00:44:20.720
you know the single target of this and your goal is to get that person on your side do you want to
00:44:28.920
actively insult the person the one person who's reading this with something like a tweet like that
00:44:34.540
we know that will insult a portion of the readers but i personally as somebody who's watching this
00:44:40.460
happen like that i know the other half of the readers are so angry at how this insults it
00:44:45.020
in one you're seeing shrewdness in the other you're seeing i guess a lack of education or a lack of world
00:44:52.160
knowledge yeah okay so what you're trying to do is is highlight the differentiation between irreverence and
00:45:01.640
foolishness like basic yeah foolishness or there is strategic irreverence and there is and there is
00:45:10.600
direct self-indulgent foolishness and the difference between the two is a strategic irreverence is usually
00:45:17.280
meant to signal and to play and to have fun in the wider world the foolishness is typically meant to
00:45:23.780
build up your own ego to make you think you're a bigger and better deal than you really are
00:45:28.540
hmm okay that makes sense that totally makes sense interesting
00:45:36.280
do you think though that there's a genetic component to this like
00:45:42.140
is it worth it to encourage people to consider this lifestyle what if a lot of people just can't pull it
00:45:47.420
off i mean yeah there is a genetic component it's worth it to talk about it as something that's
00:45:54.020
happening and i do think that some people can't pull it off you know they can they can live in the
00:46:00.360
the world it genuinely feels like that fun movie about the 1950s where like part of the community
00:46:06.760
is living in black and white and part of the community is living in color right what smallville
00:46:12.580
smallville no smallville's the superman reboot i'm pretty sure it's pleasantville hold on
00:46:18.140
yeah pleasantville yeah fun movie by the way if you haven't watched it i mean it's got sort of
00:46:23.120
woke messaging but it's a well-constructed movie um and i think quite entertaining and i don't think
00:46:29.700
it's like that woke it's like racism is bad it's like okay like i'm okay with that message but it's
00:46:35.400
it's it's it's a it's it's a well-delivered version of that message but anyway the point i'm making is is i
00:46:40.400
get the impression that a lot of these people are living in a black and white world while you and i are
00:46:45.200
living in a in a in a uh what's the word dynamic color technicolor technicolor technicolor world
00:46:52.760
any thoughts simone i would i would add that there's one more thing that we constantly refer to
00:46:59.560
on this front which is the adams family and we love the adams family because they choose to
00:47:05.700
contextualize stuff that the average person sees as creepy or to use common parlance ick and they love
00:47:12.980
it they find it very entertaining they don't care what other people think because they know what
00:47:17.060
they like and they are are politely tolerant of other people if unhappy with their choices
00:47:24.200
but yeah they live a much happier life the joke of the adams family is that while they are not
00:47:32.160
monsters they are viewed as monsters because they're so culturally different but in the end gomez and
00:47:37.720
morticia love each other more than any other couple their relationships with their kids
00:47:42.540
are stronger than any other person they meet the kids relationships with each other are stronger
00:47:47.400
than anyone else they meet everything about the family is actually with the goal of wholesomeness
00:47:52.620
more wholesome and i think that's one of the things people see when they meet with us they're like oh
00:47:55.900
my god at the end of the day they are actually like way more wholesome and in love and and doing great
00:48:03.540
like things for their family and living this good life than other people are like
00:48:08.620
we can mock them for being non-culturally normative but this seems to be working and the adams family
00:48:14.920
isn't the only example of this the other really good example is a legally blonde for like a 90s
00:48:19.300
example of this where like clearly she's shamed for acting this way clearly it's non-culturally
00:48:24.400
normal and i think legally bond might even within this conversation be the better example because i was
00:48:30.120
talking about something like knowing how to properly format an email in legally blonde sort of the story arc
00:48:35.540
is is she learns how to act in and do things in a way that fits and doesn't like randomly offend like
00:48:44.040
other people in the legal profession and stuff like that that is legally professional but still
00:48:49.220
within her own cultural framing and oh like here's my resume it's scented yeah and pink yeah you know
00:48:58.140
she's doing it the right way but she's doing it with cultural framing so she's not not showing respect
00:49:05.060
but she's still showing who she is and how she's different yeah she's clearly different you can see
00:49:09.800
that but also it's still a little it's still a little weird yeah but i think you know we've had
00:49:16.120
people reach out to us before in a way that is both professional and extra like i'm reaching out to
00:49:21.920
you also here's a customized video pitch deck that i created and here's how my values are aligned with
00:49:31.060
your values and we're like wow this is we've never seen anyone do this before this was the bruno guy
00:49:36.300
right who bruno did this yeah and i was like i love you instantly like you get it you you're doing
00:49:42.980
this different no one has ever done this before with us and i want to work with you yeah part of the
00:49:49.780
family now you're in and extra right like yeah that is what we were looking for and you don't
00:49:56.200
we're okay with people who are just professional people are just professional and competent i still
00:50:00.020
want to work with them the the only group that we don't want to work with is people who try to shame
00:50:04.880
or ick other people into not being extra yeah but people who are just professional and competent i'm
00:50:10.200
not like you're part of the family bruno's part of the family he's in you know what i mean but i think
00:50:15.280
we're seeing this across other professions as well now because there's like bigger areas so for me
00:50:20.360
like this this shades of gray world is there's like a part of the world that has just tried to blind
00:50:24.720
themselves to anything made by ai whether it's ai songs or ai or ai and they're like oh well like i
00:50:31.760
and clearly they think that they're signaling some form of status or moral superiority yeah and i'm like
00:50:37.380
bro you look like a vegan like it's it's you're you're not eating the the tasty thing and you think
00:50:43.860
everybody thinks that you're like really moral but actually we just think you're a curmudgeon
00:50:48.100
yeah anyway like the people who didn't like electricity when it was really this is a big
00:50:55.080
thing by the way yeah a lot of people would like thought it was high status like did not use
00:50:58.380
electricity just oh oh it's so dangerous don't you know it can electrocute an elephant
00:51:03.300
yeah it yeah all right i love your approach to life i love that every day with you feels like
00:51:10.740
my birthday and christmas and halloween all at the same time and life feels so much more real
00:51:19.960
this way oh no i agree no it is like extra real like it is like not being sedated whereas their version
00:51:28.980
of life feels so sedated so thank you thank you for being extra and vivacious and i i do think that
00:51:40.180
in the end our kids are more likely to want to pass down our culture because
00:51:44.760
this is a culture that gets you out of bed in the morning i mean i think you know like there are other
00:51:50.140
versions of it though they don't have to give you the ick if our version gives you like i think the opus
00:51:54.960
day great example of like extra you know totally leaning in but not you know very different
00:52:00.680
culturally that i would also consider to be super cool like this and and very gung-ho with how they
00:52:08.080
approach life but some people i guess would see it as like oh what to like bring your religious
00:52:13.200
fervor to to work that's weird why would i do that yeah it's like no that's cool like yeah no you
00:52:22.040
back you should bring your religious fervor to work and keep your mind like this isn't just like
00:52:25.840
this is in a way this is what like ultra orthodox jews are doing like every day they're like totally
00:52:30.740
they're they're being a hundred percent you know yes all right love you to death simone i love you too
00:52:35.760
do you want for dinner mango curry with extra chili peppers so half the amount is last night
00:52:41.420
and coconut rice or fried rice that's reheated or would you like the
00:52:48.740
burmese thai basil chicken the burmese thai basil chicken that stuff is so good good thing we made
00:52:56.960
a big batch of it then i'm so glad that's good i will make that a little bit of extra peppers right
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it needs extra peppers it does it not but fewer fewer than last night significantly fewer are not
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in crushing pain and then i will finish your laundry and hopefully we will go to bed early so that i am not
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sleep deprived anymore all right hey the cruise is tomorrow i'm so excited it's gonna be amazing
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i love you i love you too and girl yeah little orphan annie i'm familiar with the concept i haven't
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seen it it looks depressing you haven't seen the movie well the there's this woman named miss hannigan
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who runs the the orphanage and she's kind of fabulous like as a kid i thought she was
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evil and stuff but now when i think back to her she's just like this perpetually drunk woman
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wearing a slip like languishing around the orphanage making the children do all the work
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oh my gosh well simone i oh i found a new i got sucked into a new great ai story i've been working on
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oh no i found out how to like synthesize them edit them and then turn them into audiobooks for people
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so i am going to be posting those with episodes the one today that i was working on that i'm so
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excited about i'm having a lot of fun with it so i've got that going on wonders never cease
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the other fun thing today is we were rejected from andreessen horowitz with our second application
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we got to the final round with both the school in the game project and now we've got to figure out
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how to make them work on our own i mean the school is done and really nice and we just got to get it
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in front of more people so that's where we are was at and the primary reason we were excited about
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andreessen and the school is we felt that sales would be easier if we were an andreessen backed
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school but no but it's made it's working yeah it's working i think on its own merits a lot of people
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easy daily yeah yeah way more than i'd expect and well i mean i get it because i'm i'm addicted like
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i can't i'm like i'm just gonna try it for five minutes and then two hours later like what what
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happened and yet i know everything about chinese architecture now what's going on so if you are
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interested in trying it it's a socratic tutor combined with a game like a tech tree you would
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have in a video game and you can find it at collinsinstitute.org or paresia.io