Based Camp - Understanding Fascism & Why Progressive Ideology is its Most Pure Manifestation

00:00:00.000 In a fascist system, like in a communist system, the government is in control of industry, capital, and the economic system.

00:00:07.020 But the goal of the collection of this money is not equal distribution among the body politic.

00:00:15.200 It is of distribution disproportionately to individuals who are ideologically aligned with whatever ideology the system is looking to promote.

00:00:25.320 So instead of complete equality, the system is designed entirely around promoting a specific ideological and cultural framework.

00:00:36.640 If that fascist believes their goal to serve their political party is to redistribute the capital of the state to promote the ideological interests of that community, or to individuals based on their ideological affiliation, or to certain ethnic groups that are above other ethnic groups, right?

00:00:57.220 Basically, they have decided that certain ethnic groups are more deserving of human dignity than other ethnic groups, and therefore, it's the job of the state to care for those groups.

00:01:05.920 I mean, that's fascism 101.

00:01:08.240 And the reason Germans targeted the Jews was because they were disproportionately economically successful, more economically successful than other groups, as a justification for the dehumanization of that group, and blaming that group for all of the problems that their society was having.

00:01:24.900 Well, this becomes a problem, because that's exactly what the progressive movement does.

00:01:30.000 Would you like to know more?

00:01:31.300 I am so excited to be talking to you today, Simone.

00:01:33.880 What we are going to talk about today is fascism as a concept.

00:01:39.620 Because a lot of people have gotten overly focused on, like, dictionary definitions of fascism, which I do not think are particularly useful, or, like, leftist definitions of fascism.

00:01:52.080 One of the, you know, famous here, we have our great episode on Starship Troopers, if you want to see it.

00:01:57.220 But for leftists to call that world a fascist universe, or world, is just, like, nonsensical.

00:02:04.720 Like, nothing about it, other than literally just the aesthetics, fit any historical definition of fascism.

00:02:12.360 And it's, like, so, like, is fascism just politics you disagree with, and, like, dressing sexy?

00:02:20.520 Like, is that literally, like, do you have no concept that fascism actually needs to be, like, a unique political and economic system to exist?

00:02:30.500 No, Malcolm. 0.92

00:02:31.280 Dressing sharp and being attractive means that you're a fascist. 0.99

00:02:34.420 Hello. 0.96

00:02:35.560 Right?

00:02:36.080 Having patriotism.

00:02:37.200 So, I've been playing Helldivers, too, recently, which is actually pretty fun.

00:02:40.800 I might, like, try to start a Discord server group.

00:02:43.840 I'll add the Discord server thing here.

00:02:45.580 For people who are doing that, that'd be a fun thing to do together.

00:02:49.000 But, you know, it's done very much in a Starship Troopers-y world, right?

00:02:54.040 And people, no, actually, I almost want to do a separate episode, which I will do, on their concept of managed democracy, because it works different from fascism, but it's also different from what we would think of as democracy, insofar as, like, your vote, they're like, imagine a world where everyone can just vote for whoever they feel like.

00:03:17.800 Like, wouldn't that be silly? Like, I'm very interested to see who the algorithm chooses as my next candidate that I'm voting for.

00:03:24.860 So, they vote by, like, hitting a button that says vote, and then an algorithm determines who they're voting for.

00:03:31.780 I think based on their interest as an individual, was the idea being that individuals, it's actually a really interesting concept.

00:03:38.800 Oh, so, like, I want my voice to be heard, and the algorithms already understand all my values and stated preferences, and therefore...

00:03:44.800 And they can decide better than I can who I would have voted for, because it doesn't really make sense for individuals to be able to vote.

00:03:51.480 Honestly, that sounds amazing, because people don't know anything about their candidates these days.

00:03:57.460 It's completely called a personality, stuff like that.

00:03:59.860 So, yes, for managed democracy, right throughout the galaxy.

00:04:03.720 Anyway, but with Starship Troopers, it's not even that.

00:04:06.620 Like, the only change they have is that you need to make some sacrifice to vote.

00:04:10.160 And this sacrifice can be military service or civil service.

00:04:14.820 You, like, people think it's only military service.

00:04:17.640 No, in the books, it's also civil service.

00:04:19.760 And in the movie, it's not explicitly stated that civil service can't make you a citizen.

00:04:24.260 So, we have to assume that it exists in this universe, given that it's in the source material, which just means that what they're freaking out about...

00:04:31.240 And I always say, like, this is so telling on the left, that they hate this world, where all of the things they tell everyone they're trying to achieve have already been achieved.

00:04:40.100 This is the universe that has gender equality. 0.99

00:04:42.480 This is the universe that has ethnic equality.

00:04:44.640 This is a universe that has sexual equality.

00:04:47.120 This is even a universe where religions are suppressed to an extent.

00:04:50.460 Yeah, it's the shared locker rooms that everyone's been going for for ages.

00:04:54.920 Yeah, so why did they hate it?

00:04:57.800 It's because it never was really about equality.

00:05:00.420 It's always been about not working.

00:05:03.660 And that the universe demands some level of sacrifice to vote because something given without anything in exchange has no value, as the movie says.

00:05:11.740 And which is actually true, you know.

00:05:13.580 If you can vote without having to sacrifice for that vote, you treat the vote trivially for a lot of people.

00:05:18.720 And it was assumed that we would always remember the sacrifice that was given for our vote.

00:05:23.500 But a lot of people don't anymore.

00:05:24.520 They don't understand the people who suffered and sacrificed, or they don't care about those people.

00:05:28.620 They devalue them.

00:05:29.520 They say that they were bad people for having non-modern views of morality.

00:05:34.840 They're bigger ones that just don't think about him at all.

00:05:37.040 But I want to get to fascism specifically.

00:05:39.400 Let's do it.

00:05:39.920 What is fascism as a political and economic system?

00:05:42.660 Okay.

00:05:43.000 So, capitalism.

00:05:46.780 So, I'm going to divide these into three core political systems and three core economic systems.

00:05:54.200 Capitalism is a system where – oh, I said it's probably easier to start with communism.

00:05:59.180 Communism is a system where all of the industrial productivity of a nation is primarily under the control of the governing body of that civilization or country and is then redistributed equally among the population.

00:06:19.400 So, the idea is that the people who are at the highest levels of sort of all economics of a system receive all of the wealth that they want from that system.

00:06:30.620 Now, they can divide it in different ways.

00:06:32.560 You can look at something like the Chinese system, which we will argue whether it's fully communist or not.

00:06:37.380 But I think within a communist system, it is still reasonable to say we will rent out this thing or we will sell these things that we have produced to another country in order to distribute to the average man what we earn.

00:06:55.260 Right?

00:06:56.080 It's not to say that they never engage with the market economy.

00:06:58.900 It's just that any engagement with the market economy is meant to serve this goal of maximum equal distribution to the common man.

00:07:09.680 Capitalist systems are systems in which there is – and this is like true – like within every one of these I'm discussing like the paragon of this system, right?

00:07:19.820 Not the way they're ever really implemented in reality because the U.S. wouldn't fit this definition.

00:07:25.380 Where the organizational structure of what is generating industry in a country is free-forming and allows organizations within it to grow and then die because they were out-competed by like new competitive organizations that are more efficient than them.

00:07:44.380 So it's basically a completely decentralized approach to how industry and capital are generated within a state with the idea being that that approach is just so efficient that it uplifts everyone who is in the state more than a centrally planned system.

00:08:03.300 And that it distributes economic resources in industrial capacity to those individuals who are the most competent within a system.

00:08:11.420 And this is often like true.

00:08:14.220 These systems do end up wealthier than other systems.

00:08:17.120 And when people convert to these systems, they often do end up wealthier.

00:08:20.280 So there is an increase in efficiency, but a decrease in sort of how capital and everything is distributed.

00:08:27.200 Now, a fascist system is a lot closer to a communist system and that the state, the governing body, can control any industry,

00:08:39.060 capital allocation within the country.

00:08:43.020 But the goal of that control is different than the goal of the control within a communist system.

00:08:50.260 And so they often choose to exercise this power very differently than the people within communist systems.

00:08:55.900 It sounds like a difference between a helicopter parent and a very strict, but otherwise culturally very independent supporting parent.

00:09:06.320 I don't know if I agree with that analogy, but okay.

00:09:10.960 Anyway, the point being is that in a fascist system, like in a communist system, the government is in control of industry, capital, and the economic system.

00:09:20.600 But the goal of the collection of this money is not equal distribution among the body politic.

00:09:29.160 It is of distribution disproportionately to individuals who are ideologically aligned with whatever ideology the system is looking to promote.

00:09:41.340 So instead of complete equality, the system is designed entirely around promoting a specific ideological and cultural framework.

00:09:52.800 I see what you're saying now.

00:09:54.120 Okay.

00:09:54.260 So that can be either to like arts and stuff like that that are designed to promote a specific ideological framework, or it can be an unequal distribution within the body politic where that inequality elevates either certain ethnic groups or certain groups dependent on their political beliefs.

00:10:16.760 And when you divide the three systems this way, the division becomes quite meaningful from like a philosophical and economic perspective, and most fascist systems from history would fall very squarely into this final category.

00:10:30.580 Now, the state within fascist systems often allows for a bit more capitalistic action, i.e. a bit more free-forming of bodies and institutions underneath it, because it is just more interested in grabbing as much capital as possible, and those systems generate more capital than the communist systems.

00:10:53.020 However, most communist systems actually end up drifting more towards fascist-like systems over time, as the political class begins to define their values and their class as more important than other people, which means that now they get a disproportionate share of the resources.

00:11:10.660 You know, some animals are more equal than others.

00:11:13.080 It's a really honestly great line from the book that's so good at describing.

00:11:17.200 Yes, we're all equal, but some of us are a bit more equal than others, which is redefining equality to mean those with ideological power within the community.

00:11:27.160 Now, this all becomes really important when you understand what fascism is through this lens, is that it makes it easier and not an arbitrary thing to call a system fascist.

00:11:39.600 Because right now, calling something fascist has, you know, as I pointed out, was the Starship Troopers thing, it's become like an aesthetic thing.

00:11:47.460 It's like, I disagree with you, therefore you are a fascist.

00:11:50.440 Yeah, it's like calling someone racist or a Nazi.

00:11:55.020 But this also allows a fascist system, which is really important, because it's also true as communist and capitalist systems, they can arise within complete democracies.

00:12:04.820 You, within a democracy, can vote for a fascist.

00:12:09.400 If that fascist, or if that individual, that politician who you've elected, believes their goal to serve their political party is to redistribute the capital of the state to promote the ideological interests of that community, or to individuals based on their ideological affiliation, or to certain ethnic groups that are above other ethnic groups, right?

00:12:33.500 Whereas, in a democracy, you can have a totally communistic system.

00:12:39.280 You can vote and then have the people in power say our goal is to distribute capital as equally as possible among the body politic, right?

00:12:46.780 Well, this becomes really interesting, because if you take this framework, which I actually think is a very good and useful framework, and you apply it to our modern political system, the democratic party and the progressive value system is an almost, while it is rare to have pure expressions of any one of these three systems,

00:13:09.040 It is almost a totally pure expression of fascism, in that they believe their goal is to promote this ultra progressive urban monoculture, and that they should distribute cash, like the government should distribute cash throughout a society, but it should distribute them to certain ethnicities and cultural groups that it sees as being more human or more deserving of human dignity than other cultural groups.

00:13:37.940 That's fascinating.

00:13:39.940 That's fascinating.

00:13:40.940 Yes.

00:13:41.940 So San Francisco has experimented with some universal basic income systems, except they only give it to certain ethnic groups and certain minority populations.

00:13:48.940 Oh.

00:13:49.940 So basically, they have decided that certain ethnic groups are more deserving of human dignity than other ethnic groups, and therefore it's the job of the state to care for those groups.

00:13:58.940 I mean, that's fascism 101.

00:14:00.940 And I think that people, they're like, no, no, no, no, that's not like Germany, Germany was targeting, you know, people because they weren't, it's like, no, the reason Germans targeted the Jews was because they were disproportionately economically successful.

00:14:13.940 And they used that, and you can see this, there's like great stats.

00:14:17.940 If you want to go into all the stats into this, because we actually go over in the pragmatist guide of crafting religion, if you think Jews pre the Holocaust were some like poor group in Germany that had no either economic or political power, that just does not coincide with the data that we have.

00:14:36.940 They were vastly more likely, like orders of magnitude more likely to have jobs like doctors and bankers and stuff like that, that were high paying within this world, and we can look at the data on this.

00:14:47.940 And they used that, the fact that one group had been more economically successful than other groups, as a justification for the dehumanization of that group, and blaming that group for all of the problems that their society was having.

00:15:01.940 Well, this becomes a problem, because that's exactly what the progressive movement does to, they'll say, oh, well, you know, white cis men have run our country forever, and they have all the economic resources, and they have all the whatever success, and therefore, we are justified in making it difficult for that group to get jobs. 0.72

00:15:23.780 And, you know, it was in social media lynching that group, and people can underestimate, they're like, oh, they're not really destroying them.

00:15:33.260 When you take someone who's a primary income earner of a large family, and you destroy their ability to get a job, and you downplay the effects of doing that, that is genuinely evil.

00:15:46.120 This is a huge thing to do to someone.

00:15:48.220 Well, and I think what people are missing somehow, because fascism has been villainized for so long, aesthetically, and in general, is, I think people are under the impression that if one is in a fascist system, everyone knows that they're doing a bad thing.

00:16:04.540 And they're like, yeah, we're gonna bully those people, we're so mean to them, ha ha ha. 0.95

00:16:09.960 Isn't it funny how pathetic they are? 0.96

00:16:12.240 Whereas really, it looks like what we're feeling now, which is- 0.99

00:16:16.220 Is that not the way progressives see conservatives? 1.00

00:16:18.480 Ha ha ha, we're gonna bully these people, look at how pathetic they are. 0.99

00:16:21.360 Well, it's more like this victimized group, we are these victims, and these people are ruining everything, we need to correct it. 0.99

00:16:28.600 That's what's happening.

00:16:29.840 Fascist systems always believe, at least in their early days, that they are being victimized by some other group.

00:16:36.680 And that they have to correct that victimization, that they have to right the wrongs, they have to correct the injustice.

00:16:41.460 Yeah, and this is actually really interesting, that when you understand the core difference between fascism and communism and capitalism, you understand that the modern progressive movement is the purest manifestation of fascism that can exist.

00:17:00.040 I mean, they are as pure fascism as Mussolini or Hitler.

00:17:05.460 And when you attack these communities, and people can be like, oh, come on, they wouldn't kill people who fall into these communities that they're dehumanizing.

00:17:16.140 And it's like, do you not like-

00:17:18.400 This is one of those things that happened was in the early Jewish communities, and I have a friend who this happened to, is he read, when I say friend, it was the grandfather of a girl I was dating in high school.

00:17:28.960 And he read Mein Kampf, and he went around to his community, and he's saying he wants to literally kill us.

00:17:35.600 Like, you see this, right?

00:17:37.700 And they thought he was a crazy person, and he ended up having to break in and kidnap his girlfriend in the middle of the night, and broke the house's window and took her out.

00:17:46.080 I can only imagine the parents waking up the next day, and they're gone.

00:17:49.500 It was the right choice.

00:17:50.860 Everyone in his community was killed. 0.80

00:17:52.460 But he was seen as quite insane. 0.97

00:17:55.520 Today, when I say things like, go on to these Twitter communities, look at what people are saying, even who are thought leaders in these groups, who talk about killing men, who talk about killing cisgendered men, who talk about killing white people. 0.85

00:18:15.380 This is something you will see in these communities among their political organizers very, very frequently.

00:18:23.140 For you to say that they would never actually act on that is very similar to those in these Jewish communities in the early, but they're like, they never actually act. 1.00

00:18:33.400 Yeah, oh yeah, he wrote Mein Kampf, but...

00:18:35.640 Well, it's this mixture of both dehumanizing the group that you see to be systematically unfair, and also believing them to be causing genuine harm that must be corrected on a societal level.

00:18:48.320 And if not corrected, will lead to unending harm, right?

00:18:55.580 Yeah.

00:18:55.760 I think that's the view.

00:18:57.160 And you can look at that, and you can see it in Nazi Germany.

00:18:59.840 And you can look at that, and you can see it today.

00:19:02.640 Yeah.

00:19:03.320 No, I want to elevate what you just said there, because I think that it is really important, right?

00:19:07.860 The key to fascism is identifying specific groups in society, this is one of the ways that fascists rise to power, and say this group is causing harm in our society, this ideological group often.

00:19:21.420 And therefore, they must be gotten rid of, because harm will continue to come to our society until they are erased.

00:19:33.060 And that morally justifies behavior that you might think that your neighbors could never morally justify.

00:19:42.520 And yet we are already well on the path towards true and total fascism within leftist circles.

00:19:52.320 And I think that people don't see how dangerous things are getting, because Nazism specifically has been used hyperbolically for so long.

00:20:02.300 And people can be like, come on, look at this, what is it, like, sea to ocean language that you see on college campuses now and stuff like that, right?

00:20:13.380 Or river to sea.

00:20:13.920 From the river to the sea. 1.00

00:20:15.140 From the river to the sea language, which literally means we need to wipe out all of the Jews in Israel. 1.00

00:20:21.160 You see them elevating this kind of language and it being normalized. 0.97

00:20:26.760 I mean, kids in colleges like Harvard are going around marching this stuff and not being expelled from school.

00:20:35.360 If you think that they treat all groups as equal, if they said this about a Muslim population, they'd be expelled. 0.93

00:20:43.100 No, if they said this about an LGBT population, they'd be expelled.

00:20:46.960 They are converging on the anti-Semitism that most fascists in history can converge around, but they are including additional groups alongside that anti-Semitism that historically weren't included.

00:21:04.360 But what I would say is they intend to target you.

00:21:07.420 If you're like, yeah, but I'm a good white cis man, no.

00:21:13.280 Yeah, but also, again, they think that they're doing the right thing.

00:21:18.960 They think that they're the goodies and not the baddies because...

00:21:22.600 Nobody...

00:21:23.800 The Nazis didn't think they were the bad guys. 0.93

00:21:26.260 I know, exactly.

00:21:27.300 Exactly.

00:21:27.860 I'm just...

00:21:28.240 I think it's really hard for people to...

00:21:30.280 To realize that they are genuinely the face of evil.

00:21:34.260 Well, but, okay, so that they can be the face of evil, but that they are firmly convinced that they are good people doing the right thing who are empathetic, who feel deeply for the populations that they are trying to protect, and who see the populations that they are victimizing and harming as the unfeeling, as the enemy.

00:21:56.640 And we have to think about that a little bit more carefully because...

00:22:00.260 Because this is the difference, right?

00:22:02.180 You know, you have populations like us where you are able to empathize, at least, to a large extent with progressives, right?

00:22:09.080 Like, you're like, they're still human.

00:22:10.420 They're just making mistakes.

00:22:11.640 But at a certain point, you need to say they're, like, you need to recognize what the long-term consequence of this political framework is.

00:22:22.020 I'm all for addressing this kind of myopic and delusional viewpoint with extreme strictness and having a zero-to-one policy, but I'm also not for dehumanizing the other side.

00:22:38.040 No, no, no, I agree.

00:22:39.060 I agree, but I think that you need to call out what their actual politics are.

00:22:45.740 Yeah.

00:22:45.960 And I think that this is something...

00:22:47.200 But you can't engage someone mentally and call them out in a way that they will actually hear if you are doing that while dehumanizing them.

00:22:56.200 Yeah, but I think saying that they're literally Nazis at this point.

00:23:01.120 And now you could say, oh, calling them literally Nazis at this point is dehumanizing them because you see Nazis as less than human.

00:23:08.860 But I would say that the people...

00:23:10.400 When people call us Nazis online, do we spend a lot of time consuming their content and trying to hear their arguments?

00:23:16.820 Simone, I don't think that once somebody has fully bought into this cult that they're ever going to hear any outside perspective.

00:23:23.380 They don't see us as fully human.

00:23:26.460 No, no, you cannot.

00:23:28.880 They're capable of seeing us as fully human.

00:23:30.920 So what in the book, How Minds Change, the general thesis of how people actually have their minds changed with very offensive things, things along these lines where you think that there's no cure, there's no solution, is first you get two people to bond as humans in some way, find common ground before they ever talk about the subject to develop some kind of rapport.

00:23:51.420 And then they start discussing it, but in the other person's terms.

00:23:55.060 Yeah, but here's the point, okay?

00:23:57.080 Okay.

00:23:57.480 The ways that fascist ideologies prevent that from happening, prevent people from being deconverted, is they create systems where if you are seen as talking with the enemy group, you are just as bad as that enemy group.

00:24:11.660 That's true.

00:24:12.220 And this is something that really showed up at the natalism conference, right?

00:24:15.240 And the organizers tried so hard to bring in progressive demographers.

00:24:21.120 Anyone who was left-leaning, who was looking at demographic collapse or population shifts, and for the life of them, they could not get a single one to show up.

00:24:30.140 Which is pretty telling, I think, to your point, right?

00:24:32.880 That they will simply not be willing to even associate.

00:24:37.000 And people on Twitter constantly hounded us saying, do you know who's going to this conference?

00:24:42.440 Don't you – white supremacists are going to this conference.

00:24:45.280 You know, the wrong people are going to this conference.

00:24:46.980 And we're like, yeah, well, so?

00:24:48.240 You know, so I think you're right.

00:24:50.520 That is true, and that's a big problem.

00:24:52.020 This is how fascism works.

00:24:53.260 This is what the Nazis did. 0.95

00:24:54.620 They said, if you engage with these communities, especially if you engage with them as equal, like Jews, et cetera, then you are just as bad as them. 0.99

00:25:02.960 And that is how they prevent people from within their circle from realizing that these others are still human.

00:25:10.580 Yeah, I think – I mean, it is fair.

00:25:12.860 What I'm suggesting is actually to be actively misleading and to not let people know who you are and what you stand for, which is, I guess, part of what BreadTube was all about, right?

00:25:20.660 So, okay, that's not, I guess, what upper-handed of me.

00:25:25.240 But it doesn't work.

00:25:26.860 Because if they don't know what you stand for, then they can't humanize the other group.

00:25:32.420 If they don't have that –

00:25:33.680 Well, no, no, no.

00:25:34.100 What I'm saying is first disguise yourself as someone who's on their side, then get to know them, and then once you have rapport, introduce them to your ideas, which is how groups on all sides of the spectrum have manipulated other groups.

00:25:45.160 That's an insane thing to do because then they're like, oh, I have been – somebody's been trying to – they report you to, like, their Gestapo.

00:25:53.400 And this is also really interesting because I've been reading more about the history of the CIA, the FBI, et cetera.

00:25:58.520 These organizations were never supposed to exist long-term.

00:26:01.600 Even Truman, the guy who created it, said that he regretted doing it because these were only supposed to exist in wartime.

00:26:07.360 And the reason is because when you have a group that's not fully accountable to the American government operating in silence, you know, these groups can become ideologically captured, which we're already seeing with wokeism within these groups, right?

00:26:22.600 Is they're becoming more and more woke to the individuals I know within them.

00:26:25.720 And they are being used, like was in the Sweet Baby Inc. controversy, that government money is being used to support Sweet Baby Inc. right now, right?

00:26:36.120 And organizations defending it.

00:26:38.140 It shows that they have become so ideologically captured that now they see their purpose as like a secret police that has access to all of your communications in this country, enforcing ideological conformity.

00:26:50.880 Yikes.

00:26:51.360 And elevating the dehumanization of other people.

00:26:54.900 Because as anyone knows, the CEO of Sweet Baby Inc., you know, she said that her worst nightmare was waking up as a white male gamer.

00:27:02.620 Like she sees that as being such an underclass that she could not even imagine.

00:27:09.300 Yeah.

00:27:10.620 No, it's being, it's a lot harder now to get hired as a cis white male.

00:27:18.140 No, it's basically impossible within the bureaucratic world these days.

00:27:21.720 Yeah.

00:27:22.180 No, of course, if you want to go into the trade-off.

00:27:23.200 Or at least anything close to your degree level.

00:27:25.400 And people who haven't gone out there and tried, like Simone and I, because we have similar resumes, mine's significantly stronger than hers, by the way.

00:27:33.200 Yeah.

00:27:33.800 Similar is not really correct because you have a wildly better resume than I do.

00:27:37.900 And we've applied to the same jobs.

00:27:39.980 Literally 3x the job offers I get.

00:27:42.040 It's not even comparable anymore.

00:27:44.260 It is, you need to work twice as hard for the same amount of success.

00:27:48.460 And I think a lot of people are like, well, then I just give up.

00:27:50.580 They don't give up.

00:27:52.260 You know, this is your opportunity to shine.

00:27:54.480 Many groups out of history have been discriminated against.

00:27:56.680 And if you bow out just because you're discriminated against by the powers that be, then, well, I guess you don't deserve to exist in the future, which is the way the system works.

00:28:07.120 Oh, this is why groups like that end up essentially producing the people who build society because they're faced with so many selective pressures.

00:28:15.440 Well, and that's why historically immigrants in the U.S. have created most of our new companies and stuff like that.

00:28:20.220 Because when you can't get mainstream jobs, you end up creating new companies.

00:28:23.480 And what they're forcing to have happen is predominantly white cis men are going to create most of the companies in this country going forward because they're not getting mainstream jobs.

00:28:33.820 Yeah, they're being forced to.

00:28:34.980 So, yeah, all this stuff about, you know, who, you know, built history and present about that, it's, well, they weren't given other options.

00:28:43.140 They weren't allowed to marry and be safe.

00:28:44.720 I should point out, it's not just white.

00:28:46.880 It's also black cis males. 0.76

00:28:48.980 It's also gay males. 0.98

00:28:51.160 It's also, if you have any one of these negative traits, you know, negative traits, you're on the chopping block, right? 0.97

00:28:59.020 Well, anyway, that is very interesting.

00:29:02.260 You've made me look at progressive culture with even more concern.

00:29:07.940 You're going to have to pay for my Botox someday.

00:29:10.840 This furrowed brow, it's your fault.

00:29:13.240 Your laugh lines is what I think the bigger issue.

00:29:16.060 That's true.

00:29:16.600 Oh, my God, I love life with you.

00:29:17.980 At least we have that.

00:29:19.120 And I think a lot of it comes down to building parallel economies, just going a different way and finding safe, fortified land.

00:29:28.940 I don't know, but I'm still very hopeful.

00:29:32.380 I love you to death, Simone.

00:29:33.920 I have enjoyed chatting with you, as always.

00:29:36.780 Today is, so we record these in batches, so I mentioned this on a few other episodes, but we only just launched our, what is that thing called?

00:29:43.680 Discord server.

00:29:44.720 Discord server.

00:29:45.620 Sorry, I know so little about this stuff, but I was so excited to see that we're already at, like, the 53 active members at just a random time when I joined.

00:29:53.420 And 163 people have joined, like, this is cool, like, it's an actual community, and it makes me happy to see that people are discussing and engaging things on there, and I'm able to, like, drop potential title cards and ask people, which one should I use for today's episode?

00:30:08.280 Because usually I'm doing that with you, Simone, and now I won't need to bug you as much, because they came to the same conclusion you did.

00:30:14.680 And so now I can leave you alone more.

00:30:17.680 And yeah.

00:30:18.540 Anyway, I love you to death.

00:30:19.860 You are an amazing human.

00:30:21.220 I love you too, Malcolm.

00:30:24.580 Have a great day.

00:30:25.620 Oh, and anyone who uses, is like a Wikipedia editor, we really need a Wikipedia page.

00:30:29.740 You can learn more about us at .org.

00:30:32.540 That's where we have, like, a link list of all the press links.

00:30:34.640 We've been in, like, tons and tons and tons of major media.

00:30:37.500 I don't know why we don't have one yet.

00:30:38.960 I think it's just an initiative thing at this point.

00:30:42.920 Love you.

00:30:43.960 Hey, Malcolm, isn't it kind of funny where before when I asked if you wanted a quickie, you knew that it was something a little sexy.

00:30:50.500 And now it's a podcast.

00:30:52.800 Yeah.

00:30:53.260 Do we have time for a quick podcast?

00:30:56.200 Yeah.

00:30:56.900 But by the way, before we even start, I just have to say you are the MVP of the day.

00:31:01.560 You had three very rambunctious kids.

00:31:04.460 You managed to take two change tires, go shopping, get chicken feed.

00:31:08.880 And they were so happy.

00:31:11.340 So, anyway, you rock.

00:31:12.620 I just want you to know.

00:31:13.120 Well, I'm moving all this to the end because this is not going to be good for SEO to have random conversation at the beginning.

00:31:18.400 But...

00:31:19.400 But...

Based Camp - April 02, 2024

Understanding Fascism & Why Progressive Ideology is its Most Pure Manifestation

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