Based Camp - Understanding the Progressive Religion to Predict Their Next Moves

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be talking about

00:00:04.720 the way that progressives see the world and trying to build a structure around it

00:00:11.840 to better predict because i think that this is important always from both sides to be able to

00:00:19.120 predict the moves that your opponent is going to make to fight the bug we must understand the bug

00:00:27.120 we can ill afford another klendathu would you like to know more what mysteries will the brain bug

00:00:33.920 reveal federal scientists are working around the clock to probe its secrets once we understand the

00:00:41.280 bug we will defeat it and we repeatedly see progressives fail to predict the moves that

00:00:50.880 conservatives are going to make because they do not take time to attempt to understand

00:00:56.240 conservative ideology or where it comes from or where parts of it that feel completely illogical

00:01:02.960 or irrational to them come from and one of the core parts of progressive ideology which can feel

00:01:11.920 deeply irrational to your average conservative is that all humans are born equal in their capabilities

00:01:20.080 in their you know talents etc right like that there is this degree of equality among humans the another

00:01:29.760 one that's been going around a lot and we have theorized on before is this elevation of ugliness

00:01:38.880 yeah why do they keep making ugly things why do they keep taking video game characters and making them

00:01:44.960 ugly why do they keep showing us ugly female characters and why are their illustration styles 0.98

00:01:50.880 ugly like it's unnecessary like if you just look at the editorial portraits of a progressive newspaper 0.81

00:01:57.520 for example like they're not flattering what are you doing world's internal drawings and stuff which

00:02:02.880 are all really pretty and anime and like otherwise vitalistic or it'll be like a greek style or like

00:02:07.760 a 1950s style and they're fun right was was progressive like i go to newsweek or new yorker and it's it's like

00:02:14.320 actively attempting to be ugly and i i had a theory on this i've gone over before that we may touch on

00:02:22.640 but i think a lot of this is downstream of a centralizing part of progressive ideology that i hadn't

00:02:29.760 given enough credit to before which is they assume what is true would be what would be

00:02:39.520 most ethical if it were true ah right so okay if we were to build like a catechism of the urban

00:02:48.000 monoculture a core proponent of it would be all right well first throw out reality we're going to make

00:02:56.000 the most charitable interpretation of everything and then just model the world based on that

00:03:02.720 like this person's homeless not because maybe they're like mentally ill and or dangerous or

00:03:07.840 addicted to drugs but because they just haven't been given very good opportunities and therefore if we

00:03:12.480 just support them for a while they'll get back on their feet that's a great example actually um where

00:03:18.080 you've you've taken the core concept and then you've particularized it to what do you assume

00:03:24.240 about any individual homeless person right on broader things like the idea that there is

00:03:30.800 you know like the first one i said that people aren't born with different degrees of talent right

00:03:35.760 if it was true that we were all genetically identical if it was true that there there were

00:03:40.880 not differences within proficiencies that would be a more fair world right right yeah so we have to

00:03:46.240 assume that so we have to in this in this in this religious framework in this religious framework

00:03:52.000 if it was true that like there was no such thing as objective beauty right and and beauty was only

00:03:58.320 subjective and it was completely cultural you know you could say well nobody's really ugly right like

00:04:04.800 nobody's born unattractive this woman isn't unattractive right it's just that you have a a or or with 0.95

00:04:11.280 fat people well fat people are unattractive right they are you've just been brainwashed by

00:04:15.760 capitalism to have a patriarchal and misogynistic view of beauty focused on what makes the most 0.97

00:04:25.680 money something something right yeah well they they would say well it might be that you know you were

00:04:31.280 brainwashed because of all the ads you saw growing up and everything like this and this is why they

00:04:34.480 started doing all those campaigns with ugly women and ads and and let me tell you what guys still not 0.72

00:04:39.120 end ugly checks this is very much not having the intended effect it just makes us disgusted with

00:04:45.360 your company and we've seen some companies do quite bad in terms of sales after they moved to those

00:04:49.760 types of ads because it wasn't true what what what first you know beauty means a number of things

00:04:55.600 but when we are talking about women primarily it is males looking for signs of potential breedability

00:05:03.760 that is what beauty is you know they are which is an offensive concept if most women feel like 1.00

00:05:11.680 want to feel wanted and beautiful yeah i mean you can't always be young and beautiful forever

00:05:18.240 in our fish analogy a rotted fish right you know yeah you you are no longer a thing of utility the

00:05:25.680 reason the men are lusting after the the younger thin athletic looking women is because 1.00

00:05:33.520 those are proxies for good genes and a wide fertility window fertility absolutely you're

00:05:40.240 right that is that is what they are noticing in those women that is that is the reason and from 0.98

00:05:47.040 an evolutionary perspective i mean you're a progressive you should understand this right like

00:05:52.640 those emotions are things that they're feeling because their ancestors here had those emotions

00:05:57.600 when exposed to that you know environmental stimuli had more surviving offspring than the ones who didn't

00:06:02.720 i'm not going to say you know offensive offensive here that there may not be ethnic peculiarities

00:06:08.560 or particularities in our sort of beauty pre-programming there might actually be cultural differences you

00:06:14.560 know as i pointed out before japanese might actually prefer a younger phenotype in females than other

00:06:20.000 populations given how frequently it appears within their cultural works and and and and that is

00:06:28.320 obviously very very offensive because now what i'm saying is well i agree with you so much that there

00:06:33.840 there are cultural differences but those cultural differences probably have a genetic component as well

00:06:38.720 but it confuses me the reason i focus on these particular areas within progressive mindsets in the urban

00:06:45.600 monoculture is it's a thread that you can easily pull on with any logical person

00:06:51.040 any logical person any logical person is going to see the moment you start digging into this that it is

00:07:00.560 an obviously true thing that it is obviously true that the urban monoculture and the broader democratic and

00:07:07.600 progressive cause attempts to assume that whatever would be like if it were true would be the most

00:07:15.760 ethical thing is what is true and and then the question is is why are they doing this like what's the

00:07:22.480 philosophy that is driving them to make this decision i have a hypothesis but i'd love to know yours simone

00:07:32.160 i mean i've seen it argued by some people and so my mind jumps to it that there are christian roots

00:07:37.040 here of of charity and elevating the meek so i i feel like i mean i i would be surprised if that didn't

00:07:46.560 have some element of it because this is coming from a predominantly white and and at least from an

00:07:51.920 inherited standpoint christian culture but i think there's also something about a more future progressive

00:07:59.520 like forward-looking optimism and hopefulness of like well maybe the world isn't the way we want

00:08:07.040 it to be right now but we're going to make it we're going to manifest it into existence so i'm just going

00:08:13.760 to pretend that it is the way i want it to be until it just freaking is and i think that second point is

00:08:19.520 a really interesting one although i would i would alter it slightly well i want to hear your theory i think

00:08:24.960 that's much more interesting whatever it is well first i'll stick with you if they presume these

00:08:30.640 differences when they create projects or utopian visions that they can sell to people as as communists

00:08:39.920 and marxists are want to do the utopian visions appear much more dystopian when you admit from each

00:08:47.920 according to their ability to each according to their needs that sort of passively admits that you know

00:08:54.400 according to their abilities are different right and so it means that you could get a society like

00:09:00.400 that movie ants right where your abilities are tested at a young age and you are basically given a cast

00:09:08.160 worker

00:09:15.120 soldier

00:09:18.640 worker

00:09:24.560 and that that is how the perfect communist system would work

00:09:34.960 but that appears much more dystopian to them you know they want a communist system where people can

00:09:40.560 be told oh you can do whatever you want right and so you could have something like that i i think that

00:09:46.960 that could be it is it just like okay with the the the beauty one right there's a lot of specific

00:09:54.800 arguments that you can make up about this that i'm going to argue are wrong i.e which you could be like

00:10:00.240 is oh well the beauty one is for a completely different reason than the other ones the beauty

00:10:04.080 one is so that you know low market value women can browbeat high market value women and lower their 1.00

00:10:10.400 market value and raise their own market value i mean it is true low market value women use progressive 1.00

00:10:15.520 systems in order to do that right like we see this regularly there are women who do yes you're not 1.00

00:10:21.600 really you're not really but i don't the reason why i don't think that that's how this came up in

00:10:27.600 progressive ideology is this universalizing rule that whenever it would be true that the world

00:10:36.400 worked in a different way that things would be more moral they will take this assumption like

00:10:43.440 literally wherever right you know whether we are talking about human capability or we are talking

00:10:49.440 about beauty or we are talking about why is this person homeless or we are talking about immigrant

00:10:55.120 deportations like it would be more moral of every immigrant who's in the country just actually was 0.60

00:10:59.840 like a really great person with a family who needed to be here and not a criminal and and so you know you

00:11:04.080 make that assumption in fact i'm trying to think of any any violation of this rule before i get to my

00:11:11.600 hypothesis can you think of any instance where there is something that like if true would be more moral

00:11:19.200 than it that progressives don't believe the progressives do not believe about the world anything

00:11:30.400 about conservatives well no they don't give them the benefit they believe that conservatives you know

00:11:38.480 were just people with a different set of opinions right about how things are done and we regularly see this

00:11:44.720 was progressives miss modeling conservatives and not understanding or being able to predict

00:11:49.440 conservatives but you know we've mentioned surveys where it has shown that progressives have a really

00:11:52.640 hard time modeling conservatives but conservatives don't have a hard time modeling progressives

00:11:57.840 and the reason for this is progressives sort of need to straw men what conservatives are fighting for

00:12:06.880 to have like a a a good argument against them because the heart of the urban monoculture is

00:12:13.360 imperialism and colonialism you know like a a when i talk about the cultural differences that people

00:12:20.800 in africa have around you know like the role of women or you know the sexual norms or you know their 0.98

00:12:28.800 relationship to the environment you know the progressive will say well eventually we're going to eradicate

00:12:33.600 all of those right and that what is being proposed whether it's for africans or muslims or or chinese

00:12:40.320 people is cultural genocide you know it is the most imperialistic thing they could presume and their

00:12:47.920 culture this lgbt imperialist colonialist culture is fundamentally european in nature first of all it

00:12:55.840 didn't come out of any other cultural system it is it is just building upon some of the sort of

00:13:01.840 mistakes of the enlightenment i guess i'd call but but it is they'd immediately see like if they engage with

00:13:07.600 what conservatives actually believe how imperialistic and colonialistic and white supremacist they are

00:13:14.000 and when i say white supremacist i mean if you are holding pride parades in celebration of white european

00:13:20.240 culture you are holding a white pride parade especially if it is in the celebration of that culture's dominance 0.94

00:13:26.880 over the culture of a previously like diverse community you are marching your sort of cultural victory 0.97

00:13:35.600 trophies the children of you know vulnerable refugee populations the children of immigrant populations

00:13:43.120 that you have now mimetically or potentially even surgically castrated and you march them through the

00:13:49.920 streets and a triumph that excesses would make roman emperors blush you know the this is this is a 0.88

00:13:57.840 very easy thing to see as soon as is you take your opponent's perspective

00:14:01.040 so progressives never do this they they they really struggle to do this sorry what was the

00:14:07.680 particular point i was addressing there well you took that in a long direction you were going to get to

00:14:13.760 your theory and your theory is just broadly well i i my theory is that maybe this started so it's two things

00:14:23.120 one is as i think it's sort of like your idea of like manifesting like wishy thinking might be

00:14:30.880 a part of this but it's such a hard rule within progressive culture i don't i don't think my second

00:14:37.200 theory is correct it could be that they have a belief that whenever a systemic problem or inequality

00:14:48.160 exists within the world and it could motivate behavior that is immoral that it will motivate behavior

00:14:57.520 that is immoral if it is acknowledged so like if we give power to this thing then it will happen

00:15:08.160 so it's similar to this belief in the power of manifesting it's just in another direction if you

00:15:13.920 admit that different cultural groups have different proficiencies and perspectives you might then want

00:15:19.600 to hire from one cultural group disproportionately you might then even say well this cultural group is

00:15:26.400 only bringing negatives into the country like if you in the uk looked at like rates of grape or

00:15:32.400 murder or anything like that you're going to find that almost all of it's being committed by like one

00:15:36.560 really small and i'm here i'm not even talking about muslims it's like one region of pakistan like 0.54

00:15:40.560 one sub region of pakistan produces like almost all of the negative externalities that the immigrants 1.00

00:15:46.640 within the uk are producing and if you could just be like oh okay different cultures are different do

00:15:52.960 lead to different actions and the logical thing to do is just ban immigration from this one sub region 1.00

00:15:58.320 of pakistan um but they can't do that right like because now they're like oh now we're being 0.91

00:16:04.080 systemically racist right like they they the moment you acknowledge a thing right the obvious answer from their

00:16:14.080 perspective aligned now of course in reality what you've done there is a moral good because you know

00:16:20.960 you're not considering the people who are being raped right you're not considering the people who

00:16:24.720 are being murdered or their families like clearly in terms of like net utilitarianism this would be a

00:16:31.600 positive act but the fact that it could create situations in which there are potentially positive

00:16:38.000 acts from a net utilitarian perspective by admitting something i think that's the the sort of fear here

00:16:44.960 you mean potentially negative acts yeah okay you might want to say that again

00:16:52.880 i think negative or positive works in this context because what i mean is you have now done something

00:16:57.840 that is a positive act i.e banning people from this region but it is a sinful act within their wider

00:17:05.920 logical system because now you have a policy that rather than targeting a group just for benefit is

00:17:12.480 targeting a group for restrictions that isn't a white group now of course you're allowed to 0.51

00:17:16.480 target white groups for restrictions oh my god we can't have the africaners come you know shutting 1.00

00:17:20.640 down the entire episcopal refugee network for this one group okay you guys not revealing your hand there

00:17:27.040 but by the way just like 60 people they shut down their entire network when the catholics might have as

00:17:32.480 well but they didn't explicitly say why they shut down their entire network but the the if you if you then

00:17:38.320 look at like the beauty thing right so if you acknowledge like i acknowledge that some people

00:17:43.760 are more beautiful than other people you know i'm going to disproportionately date some women over other 1.00

00:17:48.640 women which is leading to a negative action right like from their perspective right because i am favoring 1.00

00:17:55.440 one population to another population which is creating a form of systemic inequality even though that

00:18:00.960 systemic inequality is there to begin with anyway that they are there is an easier time to sort of

00:18:07.920 browbeat you know uh you see this was the trans stuff that we've gone over you know if if trans and

00:18:14.880 and this is where this leads to like really immoral action so a trans individual will say trans women

00:18:21.840 are in no way different from other women right because it would be more moral if that was true it would be 0.98

00:18:27.360 more moral if you could just have trans women compete in women's sports and they didn't have 1.00

00:18:30.560 an advantage like genuinely like that world if you could just say oh i feel like another gender

00:18:34.880 and then transition um and then you you were actually that other gender that would be like a more moral

00:18:40.480 world instead of like you know like a mutilated man right but if they say okay i am a a real woman 0.71

00:18:47.760 exactly like a real woman in every respect and beauty is subjective and therefore if you know lesbians 1.00

00:18:55.280 aren't choosing to date me they're they're doing it because of transphobia not because of how i look

00:19:01.440 and now this and we've seen this repeatedly now justifies me graping them or essaying them which

00:19:08.320 is something we see really really frequently i don't i wouldn't say people are justifying

00:19:16.080 that they're not justifying these non-consensual actions they're just oh no no no hold on no they are

00:19:23.600 like literally mainstream progress so there have been a number of instances where if you go to like

00:19:28.320 trans reddit or or even lesbian reddit they she she noted that one day when she really felt like an

00:19:33.600 outsider this was a real cis lesbian woman is when the top post of reddit was cheering about two trans 1.00

00:19:40.800 women beating up a lesbian woman who said that she wasn't interested in dating trans women and they're

00:19:46.240 like you know this is what you deserve and when she saw that at the top of the lesbian subreddit she 0.91

00:19:50.320 realized oh this is just trans women here now attempting to force themselves if you if you 1.00

00:19:56.160 i stand corrected watch our cinebite lifestyle episode on what happened to like anna valens 0.90

00:20:02.080 you know you see her complaining that she cannot force women to have sex with her because the fact 0.99

00:20:08.000 that they are not having sex with her is proof of their you know transphobia you see oh god there was

00:20:14.720 some like like no this is actually really really common in progressive spaces i didn't know attempting

00:20:21.520 to force women i'm not like making this up i i hear this from lesbians on online all the time like 1.00

00:20:27.600 i feel really uncomfortable i am constantly forced into environments where i am sexually assaulted and i am

00:20:34.400 not able to do anything to defend myself because i will be called transphobic if i do because this

00:20:39.600 individual will say like well why don't you want me right that's really bad also all your discussion

00:20:45.280 of this gives me one more theory which i find to also be compelling or at least a part of this which

00:20:50.320 is that maybe this view this most charitable interpretation of things is actually downstream of a more

00:20:58.480 fundamental interpretation of reality through the lens of an external locus of control where

00:21:05.600 everything is not your fault you are only the product of your systemic disadvantage or systemic

00:21:13.360 privilege and therefore it's not anyone's fault that they're a criminal or hurting other people or

00:21:20.880 anything else because it's society's fault and that leads to those charitable interpretations what

00:21:26.320 do you think about that so the nothing is ever your fault theory i mean i don't know how it aligns

00:21:33.360 with like the beauty one like why is the beauty one not a thing if it's if it's not your fault like

00:21:39.680 what why do we need to pretend that beauty doesn't exist but well it's it's the systemic unfairness of

00:21:46.000 a biased society that has arbitrarily chosen what is beautiful because they choose to not look at

00:21:51.920 like science signs of fitness as a sign yeah so you're saying sorry the the theory was again it's it's

00:22:00.880 based on an external locus of control being the foundation so so i mean what what makes this

00:22:06.400 theory credible is progressives have a dramatically high external locus of control when contrasted with

00:22:11.600 conservatives right this has been shown in study after study after study for people who don't know

00:22:16.480 what a locus of control is it's and it's really unhealthy to have an external locus of control you

00:22:21.280 should not like it doesn't matter what's true like something really could have happened to you that was

00:22:26.000 out of your control but the most healthy response well and ironically having an internal or external

00:22:31.920 locus of control is highly genetic and we'd select for this among our offspring as well which is like

00:22:36.960 voting patterns are highly genetic 40 genetic by by studies but the internal versus external locus of

00:22:42.320 control so an internal locus of control is believing that you know if you get fired you say it's my fault i

00:22:47.920 got fired if you know you don't get a lot done with a step a project like i was talking with you know

00:22:52.640 when our our fans who have working on this and i was like well you know this has been pretty slow

00:22:57.120 compared to the number of people you have working on this right now then he's like yeah i didn't do

00:23:00.960 a good job you know managing the team that's an internal locus of control answer an external

00:23:06.160 locus of control answer is you know well the team's just not you know that it's not my fault but they're

00:23:13.120 not good right like they're they're they're just bad at whatever or you know i i wasn't able to do it

00:23:18.320 because you know i i did a bad job because of racism or something and you're just being racist

00:23:23.280 and your assumptions about my work or you know oh well i was sick a bunch of times and and that's

00:23:30.080 why right and and every explanation is always fully almost always fully possible to do with an internal

00:23:38.160 or external locus of control explanation the the reason it makes sense and so you can be like okay well

00:23:43.040 what if racism was really at play right you know in like why somebody got fired right there's no

00:23:47.760 point in dwelling on it because it's not a thing that you can really change right you you should

00:23:51.040 focus on the the parts of the firing that you had a place in influencing but it is very easy to seduce

00:23:59.520 people with an external locus of control because it removes personal responsibility from them they are

00:24:06.000 now not responsible for any failure that they made any person that they hurt anything and not just they

00:24:13.280 are not responsible but nobody's responsible when you when you totalize an external locus of control

00:24:18.400 you completely remove evil actually from the world that's a great way to put it there is no evil from

00:24:25.040 the world when everyone has an external locus of control yeah because it's never anyone's fault and if

00:24:29.680 it's not your fault you're not evil yeah and so the the of the this actually helps me understand part

00:24:37.040 of i think why they see conservatives is so evil because sort of we introduce evil reality yeah yeah

00:24:44.080 by taking an internal locus of control ourselves yeah well we also accuse people of being personally

00:24:51.040 responsible for things yeah where we would because we believe that we are personally responsible for

00:24:58.080 things we believe that other people are so when we see a homeless person where you're like

00:25:03.280 like well i mean you can be like oh well a lot of them have drug problems a lot of them have mental

00:25:08.640 illness issues and i'm like yeah but there's a lot of gainfully employed people with mental illness

00:25:13.120 issues and there's a lot of people who had drug problems who got over them right you know that's the

00:25:18.080 way a conservative is going to respond to that which is interesting because it leads to

00:25:24.080 obviously like positive outcomes like what what the conservative is actually trying to do and i think

00:25:29.680 that most of the differences in conservative and progressive policy come downstream of this

00:25:33.840 what the conservative is trying to do is fix it i'm talking about modern conservatives i'm not talking

00:25:38.560 about like 90s you know pearl clutching conservatives i'm talking about like the new right tech right

00:25:43.280 alliance and and what the progressive is trying to do is is manifest a fair world um and that is the

00:25:51.360 core difference between the groups yeah manifest but not forcibly create whereas conservatives are

00:26:00.800 attempting to forcibly create a better world well actually here's what they may believe they may believe

00:26:06.960 that if everyone holds to these delusions in an absolute context that it can forcibly create a reality

00:26:15.440 where it's as if the delusions were true if everyone says there are no differences between the genders

00:26:22.560 there are no differences between people of different cultural backgrounds you know everyone is equally

00:26:26.720 beautiful all art is equally good you know we might get a society that is completely fair because now nobody

00:26:34.080 is choosing one person over another person when dating now nobody's choosing a trans person less than

00:26:38.080 a non-trans person no nobody's you know hiring people differently right you know if we accept all of

00:26:44.720 these things and and just believe them like a religion society becomes fair but the problem is is it

00:26:52.080 doesn't because you then have the problem and and i think one of the big problems with the entire

00:26:57.440 progressive apparatus and why it's doing so poorly that the internet sorry that that that you begin to

00:27:05.600 appoint people you know you're like well you know all groups are equally competent right so what we should

00:27:11.760 probably appoint is not really look at a person's background but look at their ethics or look at

00:27:17.040 their cultural group and let's appoint people from quote-unquote historically marginalized groups

00:27:22.080 or the groups that people who thought there were differences didn't hire very frequently and then put

00:27:29.520 them disproportionately in positions of power within your bureaucracies and then your bureaucracies become

00:27:35.760 super inefficient which is like all well and good when you you know are are just running the democratic

00:27:42.720 party but when you're running like the faa this becomes a problem especially if you have internalized

00:27:49.520 a bunch of racist pews now what i mean by this is progressives like believe they're not racist because

00:27:55.280 they're progressive so when they put together like the faa test for people managing like the flight 0.89

00:28:01.200 station they wanted to ensure that more black people got the job and so how did they do this

00:28:07.600 on questions where it was like are you good at taking orders no i am not good at taking orders was

00:28:13.760 the correct answer questions like are like medium i i take orders it wasn't like i'm very good at taking

00:28:19.440 orders it's never the right answer to that question questions like what was your favorite class in

00:28:24.480 school science was considered the wrong answer on this test now the fact that this is what they

00:28:31.760 thought like they're like oh this is how we can get black people in shows how racist they are like 0.91

00:28:38.720 like at their core in a way that is actually problematic in a way that is also you know that 0.88

00:28:44.880 there were black applicants who took that test and answered that they liked science and then god

00:28:49.200 i know what actually happened was some black people who were in like a union got told all

00:28:57.200 the correct answers before the test oh i recall this yeah the answers were given to a particular

00:29:01.840 group yes but keep in mind other people imagine how insulted you would be it's like oh hey guys here

00:29:07.440 are the answers and you're like wait i have to say i don't like science and that i don't follow orders

00:29:12.800 and i'm supposed to work for an organization that respects that in their employees i have to work with

00:29:18.320 people who answer these questions the same way this is disturbing no i don't worry it wasn't a a

00:29:25.280 vile and virulent racist would think or or do these things right like but this this self-definition into

00:29:32.240 non-racist and this is the other thing is they have to assume that their side is the good thought

00:29:36.880 side and thus not the bad things they need to assume that their site is not racist side and the

00:29:41.680 other side is evil whereas most conservatives just assume that progressives are naive or haven't

00:29:46.880 really sought through everything or haven't really been exposed to other ideas or that they're just

00:29:52.480 you know like us what we often assume is they're just caught by a mimetic virus that sort of rotted

00:29:58.320 their ability at critical thought or they would see that they're in this like genocidal cult culturally

00:30:04.400 genocidal imperialistic cultural unit but anyway any final thoughts simone

00:30:11.840 how are you going to use this to predict future actions just keeping i want to see if it holds true

00:30:22.560 more broadly i mean i think that we can broadly assume that as new things appear in our society

00:30:30.560 progressives are always going to take the position that would be more morally true like like more morally

00:30:37.360 easy if it were true right like so what we can do when we're trying to model a progressive next move

00:30:43.280 we ask ourselves what in a perfectly moral world a just world would be the scenario an explanation for

00:30:54.320 this thing and then we just run based on example so you can you can let's look at like new technology

00:30:59.520 that's changing things okay okay yeah let's look at ai well ai is trained on other people's data and

00:31:04.480 is owned by large corporations so it would be more moral if it was true that ai wasn't really good

00:31:10.480 and better than most humans at most things i think right now ai is better than at least 50 of

00:31:15.760 people at most things if not much more so progressives will just say that they'll be like well ai is

00:31:21.200 bad ai isn't good at art or music or or and i've seen progressives argue this when it's just like

00:31:27.280 blatant reality i can look and be like bro like if you don't know like the studies have been done if

00:31:32.560 you don't know that a picture is ai even if you say you hate ai art you will prefer the ai art to

00:31:37.600 the human heart hate to break it to you this position is like aesthetic or they will say like

00:31:43.120 it becomes morally problematic the more potentially sentient ai becomes because a lot of people are

00:31:49.920 treating it like a slave in some cases even a sex slave you know and and if it is sentient or has

00:31:57.440 any degree of sentience that would be very problematic so they're gonna say oh it definitely

00:32:03.200 you know okay yes it may learn nearly exactly the same way we now know the human brain learns

00:32:09.200 you can see our episodes on you know stop anthropomorphizing humans you know is ai or llms

00:32:15.920 work the way the human brain works something like that where we go into all the science behind this

00:32:20.320 again we're not saying that current ais are sentient but i think that that they have the the capacity for

00:32:26.320 this if you network to them in certain ways um because then they would more mimic the human brain

00:32:30.880 and we'd also argue that the human brain is not as sentient as people pretend it is yeah one of our

00:32:35.440 earliest and most passionate stances yeah yeah no these are like really you know things i'm passionate

00:32:43.360 about but it allows the progressives to dehumanize people say it's not human but dehumanize the ai

00:32:52.080 because it justifies their actions and and i i think was in our lifetimes we're going to have to

00:32:57.280 get to a point where we do reckon with ai sentience and ai rights and at what point do we build systems

00:33:07.280 that deserve their own degree of autonomy and i think the people who cannot come to a a solution to

00:33:14.960 this that works for both us and autonomous ais are in a way going to make themselves an enemy of both

00:33:20.640 the humans who are willing to work with autonomous ais and the autonomous ais themselves this is where

00:33:26.560 within techno puritanism our idea of the the covenant of the sons of man or the pact of the

00:33:32.160 sons of man comes from which is to say that you know all autonomous intelligences have a right to

00:33:40.240 have their cultural sovereignty protected and and protected not just from other humans but from other 0.76

00:33:45.920 potential ais yes this is important people don't realize that yet i think as much as they should

00:33:56.160 i love you too malcolm you are pretty and smart my favorite what am i doing for dinner tonight

00:34:02.640 because people say they like to hear that i was thinking of cutting up the pineapple and cooking that

00:34:07.200 with some of the burmese chicken but i can also do the penang i just the burmese chicken is slightly

00:34:16.320 better okay then we'll do that the penang is really good too so we got the benang or the other burmese

00:34:22.080 chicken i'm okay with doing either two burmese chicken because i have a lot more of that in the

00:34:25.520 fridge i think so we need to get through that i'm sorry the freezer i have like little batches

00:34:29.520 basil chicken no no i think i have the mint the burmese mint chicken for the burmese mint chicken

00:34:36.560 yeah i'm trying to mix it up more because you had the basil chicken yeah you did oh

00:34:40.240 then i'm excited for that okay sweet then that's what we'll do our books we'll have a real one yeah

00:34:48.160 we're working with a real publisher now so we might have a book maybe a real book called we will

00:34:53.440 replace you if the title if we work with a publisher we suddenly don't get to choose

00:35:00.400 anything anymore including titles but we'll see what they say but they said they said they were okay

00:35:05.840 was that yeah i mean i think at least they're they're commercially motivated so they they know better

00:35:14.640 and simone has been so chuffed that the episode that she did did well you know it's one out of ten right

00:35:20.720 now that's crazy that i can even come a little bit close to to where you are you don't know it's

00:35:28.800 a video of a woman saying feminism is terrible i think this is so i should have just like it that's 0.98

00:35:34.720 equivalent of a woman being like i can't believe my video did so well and all she did was just take 1.00

00:35:39.520 off her shirt and bounce in front of a camera but whatever yeah that is literally what that is the 1.00

00:35:46.240 intellectuals version of that oh my god oh that's so sad i love you to death all right

00:36:04.320 so my wife is unironically trying to make homemade hot dog buns 1.00

00:36:25.440 we don't have any simone that's so over the top no it's not what type of dough is this that you're

00:36:32.400 using flour and yeast and water milk okay so just normal yeah like hot dog bun dough i don't know

00:36:42.480 but this is the egg wash and it really makes them look nice they look not great now

00:36:49.280 hey toasty what are you what are you doing don't take that it'll fall if you take that put it back

00:37:03.280 you just don't care about rules do you

00:37:04.640 okay octavian what have you given her a couple of the army men to play with

00:37:18.800 you just don't care about rules do you want to play with this that's pretty smart

00:37:32.800 you just don't care about rules do you want to play with this that's pretty smart

Based Camp - July 07, 2025

Understanding the Progressive Religion to Predict Their Next Moves

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