Universities & HAMAS Have the Same Largest Donor (& Why No One is Telling You)
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In this episode, Simone and I talk about the anti-Semitism at the top of the US universities, and how Qatar is one of the most significant financial supporters of Hamas and the largest state donor to U.S. universities in the US.
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Hello, Simone! It is wonderful to be here today, and we are going to be doing an episode today
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which I think really elevates why the disintermediation of the traditional news system
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to online bloggers, because this is something you see increasingly in terms of how are people
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getting their information about the world, is actually very important to getting an honest
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understanding of reality, so long as you're choosing the right people to listen to. And this
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episode is going to be the type of thing that you would never see on one of the mainstream news
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stations. And I'm just going to give the top notes right now for people who are like, okay, I get the
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story, I'm going to click off before we go into too much detail. But it is the fact that Hamas,
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one of the largest donors to Hamas, like one of the largest funders of Hamas, the people
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who started this war in Israel, okay? They are also the largest state donor to the most U.S.'s large
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universities, or to the university system in the U.S. Iran? I know, right? That's what you would
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think. I don't think you lost in Iran. What? It is Qatar or Qatar, depending on how fucking obsequious
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you are, because I always hate when people play little words with, oh, you're not saying Qatar right.
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We have American accents, so it's Qatar. As a quick side note, if you were wondering who is
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the bigger supporter of Hamas, Iran or Qatar, Qatar has given Hamas over $1.8 billion. And Iran gives
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them something like $100 million to $350 million. That's what they gave them last year a year. So in
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terms of just financial costs, Qatar is the bigger supporter of Hamas. But Iran plays a big role in
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giving them lots of military supplies and training. So in terms of integration with their political elite,
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Iran is a bigger supporter. Yeah. So people are like, wait, I didn't know this. Why didn't I know
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this? Why didn't I know that they heavily funded Hamas? Why did I not know that they were also the
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largest state donor to U.S. university systems? And this matters downstream when you are looking
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at the university policy that is allowing this rampant anti-Semitism on campuses? Would you like
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to know more? Because a lot of people, they're like, oh, I'm going to not donate to my university
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because of this. Like a lot of Jewish families are saying that right now and stuff like that.
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And what they don't realize, they're like, why are universities still doing this from a financial
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perspective? Why are they still being so neutral? Why is it when you had, there was this great moment
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where Gay, the head of one of these universities. Gay. Yeah, the head of Harvard at the time.
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Who then subsequently had some plagiarism problems. Yes. So she responded that hateful speech is at odds
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with Harvard's values and that calling for the genocide of Jews is anti-Semitic. But when pressed
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on whether it violates the code of Essex, she said it can be depending on the context. So genocide,
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demanding genocide of an ethnic group, specifically when it's Jews. Of course,
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this wouldn't matter with anyone else. At the top universities in the US, why is that?
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Maybe it violates our code of ethics. I'm not going to make any hard calls on this right now.
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So why are they having this position? And it makes a lot more sense when you look at where the money is
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coming from for these institutions, or at least a very large, we'll get into the size of it,
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how they get the money into the universities and everything like that as the thing goes on. But I just want
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to get it out there up front. So I'm so confused about Qatar still though, which by the way,
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American accent, we would rather say something that rhymes with guitar rather than cutter,
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like someone who's trying to kill themselves. But I'm so confused about Qatar because Qatar is
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majority Sunni, whereas Iran is primarily Shia. Are they aligned? Are they partners? Or do they just
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both really like? I think that you underestimate the level of anti-Semitism in the Muslim world.
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They just really hate Jews. Yeah. So this is what I'm, and I need to go back here because it's not
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just that they hate Jews. It's also part of the power hierarchy in this world. So there's,
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I really want to go into the stats here, but I'm also going to provide some like overall framing.
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Okay. So people who may not know, and I'm like, normal news would not report this. And they're
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like, why would normal news not report this? And even I feel a little honestly uncomfortable talking
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about it because I have a lot of Qatari friends. If you are like wealthy and successful, you like in
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your social groups, you are going to have Qatari friends and Qataris, there's only something like
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300,000 Qataris in the world. So it's a very small, the ethnic population of Qatar is incredibly
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small. Most of the people there are foreign laborers or basically slaves. And so what that
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means is the, if you have Qatari friends, that means you have friends in the Qatari government or
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that are related to the Qatari government. Right. And so when you're talking about any of the heads
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of these major news stations or something like that, there are parties where they're going to have
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to go to later that day. And they are going to look like, it's not even like a conspiracy
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thing. They're just going to look like really bad if they are putting shade on Qatar. And they may
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not get deals. They may not get hired by companies because they have so much money. They have their
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fingers in a bit of everything because of that big natural gas vein that they found in Qatar.
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A lot of people think it's oil. Oil is not why Qataris are just natural gas. But sorry, I don't want
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to get into the geopolitics here. But the other thing I want to talk about is we have a lot of friends
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who are Emirati and Qatari. And I'm not like trying to conflate the two countries, but what I'm pointing
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out here is these are like the nicest of the Muslim states generally to like the U.S., like in terms
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of friendly policy. Saudi Arabia, we're also pretty close with, but occasionally we have some friction
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there. And Saudi Arabia, it's much more like a brutal dictatorship. So like the Americans can
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understand. But with Qatar and the UAE, they've done a pretty good job with their image. In fact,
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speaking of, I am about to go to my reunion at Stanford Business School. And one of the guys I am
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going to be meeting there is an old friend of mine who I actually really like the person,
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great person, Khalid Alamari. And he has like over 4 million subscribers on YouTube.
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And he would always come up to you and be like, Malcolm, what's my name? It's Khalid.
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Call him Khalid. Okay, whatever. Anyway, that's why it's still funny.
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He is, and I always mispronounce his name. But he's a big shot now. And he actually did a tour,
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went around the UAE with him. And so I went to check his channel recently. And I think this just
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shows what we're talking about when you're in this bubble. So his latest video that has over
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a quarter million views is surprising delivery drivers with their families. So this is supposed
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to be like a feel good movie, where it's like surprising, I don't know, troops with their
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families or something like that. And if you're an Emirati and you watch, this is going to look
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just like a feel good movie to you. But if you are an American, and you watch this, you're like,
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wait a second, why would delivery drivers have not seen their families in a long time?
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And it almost looks like a slave owner in the South being like, like Mr. Beast, but in like
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the slave owning South. And he comes in, he goes, ha, this guy thought we sold his family to the
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to another owner. But I'm gonna trick him. And when he gets home, they'll all be there. And then
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confetti will fly behind the doors. And the guy like comes home devastated. And he's genuinely
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having this emotional moment. And he sees his family that he thought was sold off. And
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the guy's dancing around all Blippi style in front of the door with confetti. I'm such a good person.
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Here's the plan. We've told the writers that they're just going to be shooting a commercial
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for minutes today. But little did they know that they're going to be delivering to someone special.
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They're families, who we've flown in from outside of the country to give them the biggest,
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And I don't think that he's a bad person at all, or that he sees the way this comes off from
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another cultural perspective. And I think within the context, that's a good thing for a person to
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do in that society. So it's an interesting thing to think about. But what I'm saying is the ethics
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within these countries and the hierarchy and the game that these countries are playing is very
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different than the game that we're playing. And so you can say, why is it so important that they
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make these anti-Semitic plays, even when they're not anti-Semitic? Because we have a lot of friends
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in these countries. And genuinely, a lot of the elites, like a lot of the elite Qataris aren't
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really anti-Semitic, but they lose status in the hierarchy game of that sort of regional
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geopolitics if they don't make anti-Semitic plays in anti-Semitic statements.
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I see. Because they're going to have to code switch, right? I feel like once you reach a certain
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level of eliteness and you're international and as a player, you're going to become,
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you're going to start coding as that international monoculture of like wealthy people. And they all
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have a look and a thing and they come across the same in dinner parties. It's the same people. It's
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the same international global elite. But then locally, they still need to assume certain stances
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to not be seen as losers, not part of the culture.
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Yeah. And they also have to deal with like their citizens. If you're talking about Saudi Arabia or
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something like that, they have to deal with their citizens if they look too pro-Israel. And people
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are like, come on, the Saudi citizens are not, they were the majority of the attackers on 9-11.
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Like, why is that the case? Because of the extremist form of Islam, this practice in Saudi
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Arabia. But I don't want to go too far on this. I want to actually-
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Well, I also want to be fair. If you're from a certain culture and that culture is more likely to
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be biased in favor of Palestinians over Israelis, you're going to hear more things about terrible
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things happening to Palestinians and the plight of Palestinians. And you are going to hear about
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the plight of Israelis. And therefore, you aren't crazy for just due to availability heuristic,
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probably being a little bit more biased against Israelis, right?
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Yeah. Yeah. And I think that this is partially why within these regions and within the geopolitics,
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what I'm trying to explain is why do you not hear the role that countries like Qatar are playing in
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all of this? And it's because they are our allies. They're like the US's allies. And they are very
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well entrenched within elite social circles in the United States. And so not even shadow games or
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anything like that. I just don't want to- I know if our show is more popular right now, I probably
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wouldn't be saying any of this because I would have to answer to people being like, hey, why are you
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calling it out? Like, why are you- can't we just pretend like this isn't the case? Hold on, Simone.
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I will always stay to my integrity, but I'm just saying this is the type of thing you got to answer
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to people for. But- I don't think you're ever really going to answer to people. I don't think
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you're genetically capable for being honest. Before we go further, I want to frame, because a lot of
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people, they know how pro-Israel they are, or at least we're coming off as pretty pro-Israel right
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now. And they're like, why are you so against the protests? Don't you know that children are dying?
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So just for some context here, when the Hamas came into power in Gaza, 42% of the population
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supported them. This was in December 2023. 33% of Germans supported the Nazis when they came into
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power. Only 7% of Gazans blame Hamas for their current suffering. Even worse, just over 7 out of
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10 Gazans continue to support Hamas' decision to launch the war against Israel with the 7th of
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October attack. While nearly 59% of Palestinians believe that Hamas should continue to rule in
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Gaza. Outrageous! And keep in mind, this is not Israeli data, but data from a survey conducted
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in March 2024 by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research itself. For all these reasons,
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Israel believes that Hamas' proposal is not sincere, and that it is only seeking to gain time
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to reorganize and rearm, and thus regain some control over the territory.
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So if you're like, if you've never had a big freak out about the firebombing of Dresden or
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something like that, the US doing what needed to be done to take the Nazis out of power,
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then why are you freaking out about this now? A lot of innocent people died who were in Germany
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at the time. And people do not hand wringer about this. More people died in the firebombing of Dresden
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than during the nuclear bombs. And so why is that? And then they're like, yeah, but okay, hold on.
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So this is in modern times, because then I'm like, okay, if you really cared about this,
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if this wasn't just like anti-Semitic thing, and I should point out, I don't think that a lot of
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the individual protesters are anti-Semitic. I think what they don't realize is that the forces
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that be that put all of this in motion are actually anti-Semitic. And they're like, no,
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that's not true. And I'm like, then why aren't you out there protesting about Haiti? And they're
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like, my university, it doesn't do business with people who directly have to do with Haiti.
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But also, there's no enemy. That's not true. A huge contributor to what happened in Haiti right
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now was the national debt of Haiti. And actually, they were calling for... Okay, bit of history.
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You can't fight debt. You need an enemy. You literally can, because the debt is owned by
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American banks. You literally... Okay, so hold on. I'm going to take a little... So what you may not know
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is the president who was disappeared right before everything started going to hell,
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the thing he did right before he was disappeared is he demanded that these banks that made all this
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money off of Haiti's unfair debt, because when Haiti declared independence, the French basically came
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in, they put guns to them, heads, and said, okay, either you buy yourselves, every human in Haiti,
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or we destroy everything. And so they were forced to take on this absolutely insane debt.
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And then this debt was bought by CIC, a bank in France. And then the debt was sold
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to banks like First National Citibank, today called Citibank, and Manufacturers Hanover Trust,
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now JPMorgan and Chase. And so why was this guy disappeared when he was talking about Haiti?
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Not getting reparations for like in the US reparations. This is... They actually super,
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super, super deserve these reparations. And there are specific US institutions around today
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that are living on the profits of these institutions, Citibank and Chase.
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And you think your university isn't doing business with Citibank and Chase?
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You think? You think? Seriously? You think that half these protesters don't have? They don't care.
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It's not that they care about unjustices done against Black people or something like that.
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It's that the powers that are organizing and manipulating all of this actually have an
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anti-Semitic agenda, which we will get to in a second. What is happening in this region is very
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much like some small portion of the US got reconquered by Native Americans. And all around
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them were a bunch of like racist, redneck, white hicks who every day talked about wanting them all
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killed, wanting them all destroyed, blah, blah, blah. One day they go in, they murder a bunch of
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these Native Americans for taking their land back. And then the Native American government is like,
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well, I just don't have another option right now. There is only one Jewish state. They are surrounded
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by Muslim-majority states that these people could go to. People can be like, oh, no, the Jews weren't
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always on that land. Didn't they take it from the Canaanites? Well, we know from DNA testing that
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Jews, even to their own chagrin, are around 50% Canaanite in their DNA. So no, they merged. It was
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two populations that merged in the region a very, very long time ago. And then they're like, well,
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the Gazans, they've been there for a long time. No, they were recent colonialist invaders. They're
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not like the people in Northern Palestine, which that's different. We'll talk about that on another
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show. But Gazans uniquely have no ancestral claim to this area. They are the descendants of an
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imperialist expansionist conquest by a large empire. Specifically, their moving to the region was
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encouraged under rulers like Nurid and Zengi and Saladin in the 12th century, and then continued
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during the later Mameluke and Ottoman periods. But I want to go further here because there's a
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number of really interesting things. The first thing I want to go over is a lot of people also think
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Hamas was like random spastic attack of Israel because they hated their conditions. And this is not
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the case. Hamas actually had a plan for what they were going to do as Israel after they beat
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the Israelis. And there was a great tweet on this I want to read to you that Richard Hanania put out.
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In late 2021, Hamas held a conference on what they would do after conquering Israel. They discussed
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water, sewage, currency, and making a directory of property to confiscate. They planned to not let
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talented Jews leave and make them work for the state. The ceasefire crowd doesn't get it. Israel has an
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actual enemy. It's not the enemy you wish they had. It's not people who can be reasoned into living in
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peace with a Jewish state. Hamas is actually serious about slaughtering the Jews and taking
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their land. This article suggests they're quote-unquote crazy for making these plans. I don't
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think that's true at all. If Israel fought the war the way the international community wished it would
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be destroyed in the long run. It's unfortunate the West does not understand this, but I'm confident
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Israel will win because it has no other choice. It faces a dark and bitter reality and can't afford
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the delusion of the rest of the world. So I want to be clear because this is actually interesting.
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So he did some. Hamas planned to exterminate the Jews in this attack. They thought-
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But not the productive Jews. That's a bit of an upgrade on what the Nazis were doing. And the
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Nazis weren't trying to monetize. So that's interesting.
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I also like the realization there that Israel has no value without the Jews.
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The land of Israel is a pretty useless land. It's like a desert with a little bit of an
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arable farming area, but not really that much as useful. It is useful because of the Jews.
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And even Hamas realizes it's like, we'll turn them into slaves. We'll round up, kill all the
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ones who are economically productive, and we'll turn the rest into slaves.
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Again, a step up from the Nazis at least. They've seen some practical value.
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Putting them in internment camps, that was like completely underutilizing knowledge workers,
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when instead you could do Auschwitz for knowledge workers. Isn't that just wonderful?
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No, it is horrifying. What I'm going to do next, before I go into all the shit that's
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happening on university campuses right now, where people are like, oh, it's not explicitly
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I want to go over the Qatar thing, because this is really interesting.
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So according to a Department of Education report from April 2023, American universities
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and colleges have received $19 billion from unreported sources, more than half of which
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has come from authoritarian and anti-democratic Middle Eastern governments. At the time of
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writing, the state of Qatar contributes more funds to the universities in the United States
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than any other country in the world in raw donations. And this is by the ISGP report.
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And here's a quote from the former Qatari prime minister, Hamad bin Jassim from 2022.
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We would pay them journalists. Some of them have become MPs now. Other have become patriots.
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We would pay the journalists in many countries. We would pay them every year. Some of them even
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receive salaries. All the Arab countries were doing this. If not all of them, most of them.
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So again, this is just a normal thing for this part of the world to do.
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Oh, and I'll name the article that I am quoting from here. So this article is
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Dark Money Nightmare, How Qatar Bought the Ivy League.
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Wow. But why? Like to what end is Qatar investing in universities?
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We're going to get to that. I'm just going to go over the stats first. Okay.
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Hamas, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, has enjoyed Qatar as its main sponsor. So they
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are the main sponsor of the Muslim Brotherhood to the tune of up to $360 million a year.
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And was until recently the home of Hamas's leadership.
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In 2012, Ismail Hanayi, head of the terrorist group's political bureau, Masan, I'm not even
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going to try to pronounce it, and a few other names that I can't pronounce, moved to Qatar
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for a life of luxury. This month, likely because of Israel's announcement that it will hunt down
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and eliminate Hamas leaders in Qatar and Turkey, the Qatar-based Hamas officials reportedly
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fled to other countries. Qatar has become the home to Shaikh Youssef, the spiritual leader
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of the Muslim Brotherhood, who was exiled from Egypt until his death in September 2022.
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According to the Mir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, quote,
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Qadawi is mainly known as a key figure in shaping the concept of violent jihad and the one who
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allowed carrying out terror attacks, including suicide bombings, against Israeli citizens, the
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U.S. forces in Iraq, and some of Arab regimes. Because of that, he was banned from entering
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Western countries and some Arab countries in 1999. He was banned from entering the USA. In 2009,
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he was banned from entering Britain. The Saudi state-run JNUD's agency, so keep in mind,
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Saudis are very biased against Qatar. Qatar embraces multiple terrorists and sectarian groups aimed
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at disturbing stability in the region, including the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, and Al-Qaeda, and
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promotes the message and schemes of these groups through their media constantly. This is the kind of
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influence that U.S. universities and colleges are more than happy to see on their campuses in
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exchange for billions of dollars of Qatari donations. According to ISGAP, foreign donations
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from Qatar especially have had a substantial impact on fermenting growing levels of anti-Semitic
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discourse and campus politics in U.S. universities, as well as growing support for
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anti-democratic values within these institutions of higher education.
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So hold on. No, it gets worse because they actually have measured amounts of this. So in
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2023, ISGAP published a report, The Corruption of the American Mind, How Concealing Foreign
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Funding for Higher Education in the United States Predicts the Erosion of Democratic Values and
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Anti-Semitic Sentiment on Campus. It found that there was a direct correlation between anti-Semitism
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and censored speech on campuses and undocumented contributions from foreign governments, notably
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Qatar. Quote, the institutions receiving such undocumented money had, and then it's bullet
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points here, political campaigns to silence academics were more prevalent. Campuses receiving
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undocumented funds exhibited approximately twice as many campaigns to silence academics as those that
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did not. Students reported greater exposure to anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist rhetoric. Higher levels of
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anti-Semitic incidents were reported on their campuses. This relationship of undocumented money
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to campus anti-Semitism was stronger where the undocumented donors were Middle Eastern regimes
00:22:27.900
rather than other regimes. From 2015 to 2020, institutions that accepted money from the Middle
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Eastern donors had, on average, 300% more anti-Semitic incidents than those institutions that did not.
00:22:40.300
And then, quote, speech intolerance manifesting as campaigns to investigate, censor, demote,
00:22:44.420
or terminate speakers and scholars. It was higher at institutions that received undocumented money
00:22:50.080
from foreign regimes. End quote. So here you could see big number differences here, like 300%,
00:22:55.520
like 100% higher. Like, we are talking, like, very significant differences in what's going on
00:23:01.920
within these campuses. This is wild. Okay, I'm trying to think, like, beyond just pure anti-Semitism,
00:23:07.920
because I feel like there has to be more of a motivation than just, God, I hate those Jews, is maybe
00:23:15.260
so many of these nations are resource-rich, and they're trying to transition to become economies that in
00:23:23.000
a post-oil or natural gas-dependent world are thriving and independent and they're powerful. And Israel may be
00:23:30.200
one of the few, if not perhaps the only country in the Middle East that has a knowledge worker-based
00:23:38.260
economy that is thriving and influential. Therefore, it poses a threat to any nation, any country in the
00:23:47.020
Middle East that has a tenuous economic position based on an unsustainable asset such as oil or natural
00:23:52.420
gas. Therefore, nations like Iran and Qatar are going to be very nervous about Israel and try to
00:24:00.740
undermine it, because as long as Israel is powerful there and it has the one source of value generation
00:24:06.080
that is going to survive a post-oil world, then it's going to be very... I really appreciate your kind
00:24:13.780
heart, but no, that's not what's happening. Okay, so why is this happening? Okay, so these countries
00:24:18.900
generally have authoritarian governments, whether you're talking about Qatar or Saudi Arabia or the
00:24:23.440
UAE, it is monarchies. Sure, yeah. These monarchies have to... You are allowed a functional monarchy in
00:24:32.160
the developed world. How does this happen? How do you broker this with your citizens? One is you give
00:24:37.440
your citizens tons and tons of payouts, which is what these countries do, and two is you need to play
00:24:43.200
to the populism of your citizens. The citizens in these countries are extremist Muslims. Okay,
00:24:50.920
I'm talking like based extremist Muslims. I mean, in Iran, not so much, right? Iran hates most of
00:24:58.700
these countries. Simone, stop getting confused here, okay? Iran wants... Okay, so Iran and Qatar are
00:25:05.040
aligned because they both support the Muslim Brotherhood. It's weird. I don't want to get in
00:25:08.600
to these major countries. I'm talking about the on-the-ground politics of these countries. Okay,
00:25:14.400
okay, yeah, like the public-facing people, not the average citizen that's... No, no, Iran has a
00:25:19.040
completely different structure than Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. It is a democracy. It is not
00:25:24.740
a monarchy. It has to play to its citizens in a totally different way. Yeah, okay. Yes. So we're
00:25:30.080
talking about the monarchies, all right? Monarchies, yes. Suppose you are hanging out in progressive circles
00:25:37.040
or something like that, right? And this is the way anti-Semitism works. And you say something like
00:25:42.260
today, like you can even imagine this. If you were on like one of these college campuses,
00:25:46.140
you know what? I don't hate the Jews and I actually think that what they're okay and they should be
00:25:50.500
allowed to live in Israel. You would be like attacked or forced out of position. This is the
00:25:56.600
way anti-Semitism work. It makes everybody who thinks actually the Jews are okay, afraid to say that
00:26:04.060
within certain social circles or they can lose their positions of power. You see this everywhere
00:26:09.940
anti-Semitism begins to creep up. They are not saying, actually, I don't hate the Jews, actually
00:26:14.980
have a lot of Jewish friends, which I know a lot of these people, they do have a lot of Jewish friends
00:26:18.280
and a lot of the people in the highest level positions of power within these governments do not
00:26:22.240
hate the Jews, but they cannot let that be known because it becomes known in the same way you can't
00:26:28.160
say that on college campuses right now. And people, and just so you know, like when we're using silly
00:26:33.220
words here, people will be like, no, it's not that I hate Jews. I hate Zionists. See, here's the
00:26:38.260
problem. 97% of Jews over the age of 40 are Zionists and 80% of Jews under 40 are Zionists.
00:26:44.920
And as they age, they'll probably become Zionists. And I've looked at various statistics. Some show
00:26:49.020
like 95%. So when you say, I don't hate the Jews, I just hate 97% of Jews. Yeah. You're saying you hate
00:26:56.220
Jews. Okay. All of the things that are saying, take down whatever they're saying, I hate Jews. Okay.
00:27:02.220
So let's be clear about that. This is, uh, that's really all there is to it. It's to maintain their
00:27:08.580
power structure. And it's because once antisemitism begins to become a status signal within a community,
00:27:14.980
everyone in the community ends up leaning on it really quickly and it becomes really dangerous
00:27:20.760
to oppose. And so it's the goth echo chamber all over again. It's the goth echo chamber. Yeah.
00:27:25.880
What's your status? It's how antisemitic you are. Yeah. How extreme you are. Yeah. When something is
00:27:30.120
measured, that, that gets a little out of hand, no matter what it is. But I want to talk about
00:27:34.640
how bad it's getting. Cause I think a lot of people don't know. So I'm going to send you a
00:27:37.740
picture here from Columbia's campus right now. Well, Columbia, which has shut down in person
00:27:44.460
classes for the rest of the school year. How pissed would you be given how much you pay to go to
00:27:49.600
Columbia as a student? Oh, I'd be furious, but look at this picture. I sent it to you on WhatsApp.
00:27:53.560
This is from the Columbia campus. So what? Oh no. For people who can't see, it says beware skunk on
00:28:02.260
campus. And it's a skunk with a star of David on it. It's done as like a caricature of Jews. I mean,
00:28:08.920
this was commonly done during the Nazi period of trying to compare Jews to animals, various types
00:28:14.280
of rodents like skunks were very common during the Nazi period. And I love it. People are like, no,
00:28:19.320
this is because of this one stink bomb incident that some Jews did on campus. And that I'm like,
00:28:24.480
okay, that may have been how they justified it, but they knew what they were doing. This
00:28:28.580
picture looks like old Nazi propaganda. Beware. Like this is clearly specifically made to be
00:28:37.340
reminiscent of Nazi propaganda. Yeah. It's even, it, even for those who are just listening,
00:28:41.820
has a vintage look to it, a 1950s propaganda vintage styling. So they're going for that.
00:28:47.560
They want Jewish students to feel afraid on campus. The people who are operating this. And
00:28:54.000
this is, I think a lot of the things is people don't know who's operating this. Do I think that
00:28:58.580
the Qataris are like actively engaged in this sort of stuff? No, I think what's happening is that the
00:29:04.500
student, like the people making decisions about student governments in the universities that are
00:29:08.260
getting a lot of their funding from countries like Qatar know that they can afford to be more
00:29:14.780
anti-demographic democratic and more authoritarian in the way that they roll out policies because
00:29:21.560
their funders will have their backs. They don't need to worry about losing Jewish student money as
00:29:26.160
much or Jewish alumni money as much. And so they make a more authoritarian decisions on the ground.
00:29:32.060
I think many people who are at these protests are not anti-Semitic.
00:29:35.820
I think people are being genuinely misled. They don't even know what they were chanting from the river to
00:29:39.840
the sea. People were like, oh, we're just saying they need to leave the part of Israel that goes from
00:29:43.840
the river to the sea. I mean, they're thinking let freedom ring. I'm pretty sure that's kind of just
00:29:48.060
Yeah. And somebody was like, and then they showed them on a map where the river they were talking
00:29:51.740
about is. And they were like, oh, oh, they mean they want to kill all the Jews? They mean every one of
00:30:00.020
them goes into the sea? And they're like, I did not know that's what I was chanting. Because they're being
00:30:04.340
told these things by people in positions of authority in these activist groups that are
00:30:08.380
actually severely anti-Semitic. And so now I want to talk about what's going on college campuses right
00:30:14.360
now. So I'm doing some quotes here. They vandalize university property with slogans such as Zionism
00:30:20.620
equals genocide, New Intifada, and from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Referring to a
00:30:28.840
geographic area that encompasses the entirety of the state of Israel where half of the world's Jews live.
00:30:34.340
At Harvard, some students opted for chanting the Arabic version, from water to water, Palestine is
00:30:40.100
Arab. On some campuses, the exclamation is escalated into death threats and physical assaults against
00:30:46.520
Jewish students, where a Jewish Tulane University student tried to stop an anti-Israeli protester
00:30:51.380
near campus from burning an Israeli fad. Protesters attacked him and other Jewish students, breaking
00:30:56.280
one student's nose. When I saw on Harvard, there was this horrifying video of them basically hunting
00:31:01.460
down a group of Jewish students and trying to trap them. Oh, the library one? Yeah, you saw that?
00:31:08.040
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So here's a quote from another article. Two weeks ago at a town hall, a student
00:31:13.520
told me that what would make her feel safe in the law school would be to, quote, get rid of the Zionists,
00:31:19.840
in quotes. And then later in this article, he said, I was stunned when students across the country,
00:31:24.180
including mine, immediately celebrated the Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel on October 7.
00:31:30.260
Oh, but you're not at all mentioning the atrocities that are being faced by these
00:31:34.900
pro-Palestinian protesters. Don't forget about that poor young woman whose friends called 911 from
00:31:41.960
their sit-in location because she had a tampon in for too long and they were certain that she would get
00:31:48.000
toxic shock, but she refused to leave the location because she would be arrested if she did.
00:31:52.460
And then, of course, there's Ilhan Omar's daughter who has been kicked out of Barnard,
00:31:59.520
blocked from her meal plan, and left homeless and destitute. These people really understand
00:32:06.180
the plight. Hold on, hold on. I need to finish, but I do love that you brought that up because
00:32:10.920
these people are LARPing as actual Nazis and they do not have- Well, many of them in actual
00:32:15.480
subsequent meetings where they're complaining about their mistreatment, they even have the audacity
00:32:21.680
to compare their quote-unquote mistreatment with the experience of Palestinians right now.
00:32:28.420
Yeah, they're like, I know what it feels like to be a Palestinian.
00:32:31.340
Yeah, the things we're subject to, yeah. Hold on. Come on, let's continue. And keep in mind here,
00:32:38.060
what we're saying here is the Palestinians have it hard now. The Nazis- No, I feel it. My heart
00:32:41.700
my heart breaks. We were too sure the Germans did not support the Nazi party. They went through hell
00:32:47.240
during that period, but it was righteous what happened. It was the only realistic long-term
00:32:53.220
solution to the problem, which the problem being the systematic genocide of a bunch of people,
00:32:58.340
okay? And this right now, from Israel's perspective, this is what they're doing right now is the only
00:33:03.840
realistic long-term solution to having a genocidal group on their border.
00:33:07.800
They said we're going to attack again and we're not going to stop. And they said they were going
00:33:11.560
to attack again. There was a quote that said, this won't be the last attack. The next one's
00:33:15.060
going to be 20 times worse. From Hamas, like official Hamas. But anyway.
00:33:20.340
Well, and also what really bothers me and what I think also needs to be emphasized is that
00:33:26.080
Palestine is set up like a human shield and that none of the people who are making these decisions,
00:33:33.040
who are planning these attacks are really being subject to the retaliation from Israel now.
00:33:40.520
They've just put a bunch of helpless, trapped people who do not know better in the line of fire,
00:33:46.240
which is one of the most reprehensible things. And this is the important thing to note. These
00:33:49.680
tunnel systems are intense under the country right now, which four and eight dollars we're paying for.
00:33:55.140
And that is why the war is so bloody with the civilians right now, because it's not a war where the
00:34:00.380
first people you kill are going to be the bad guys. Those are the last people you kill in a war
00:34:03.900
like this. It's a human shield strategy and it's disgusting. Your entire war strategy, after of
00:34:10.880
committing atrocities against your enemy, is to have your enemy commit atrocities against the most
00:34:16.060
innocent and vulnerable people on your own side. Because they do not care. And the amount of
00:34:22.480
misinformation I see going on, I saw on my Facebook wall, some lady was like, did you know that Israeli
00:34:27.260
soldiers were playing the sounds of a baby crying to lure out Palestinians and then shooting them?
00:34:31.740
And then I Google it and it turns out that's what Hamas was doing to Israeli soldiers,
00:34:35.660
not the other way around. And so just the amount of misinformation is insane, but I need to keep
00:34:40.380
going with the quote here, okay? So students for justice in Palestine called the terror attack a
00:34:45.740
quote unquote historic win for the quote unquote Palestinian resistance, end quote.
00:34:50.460
A Columbia professor called the Hamas massacre quote unquote awesome and a quote unquote stunning
00:34:56.300
victory. A Yale professor tweeted, quote, it's been such an extraordinary day, end quote,
00:35:01.160
while calling Israeli a, quote, murderous genocidal settler state, end quote. A Chicago professor posted
00:35:07.340
a note reading, quote, Israelis are pigs, savages, very bad people, irredeemable excrement. May they
00:35:14.220
rot in hell, end quote. Israelis, he said. This is a Chicago art professor who hasn't been fired.
00:35:19.460
It's an art professor. A UC Davis professor tweeted, yeah, but he's someone on campus.
00:35:23.060
Yeah, I know. A UC Davis professor tweeted, quote, Zionist journalists have houses with addresses,
00:35:28.020
kids in school, end quote, adding, quote, they can fear their bosses, but they should fear us more,
00:35:33.780
end quote. Keep in mind what happened here. This is celebrating the brutal killing of 260 people
00:35:39.060
attending a music festival for peace. That was one of the groups that was brutally murdered,
00:35:44.340
and they're saying, this is awesome, or a victory, an extraordinary day. And this is mainstream within
00:35:51.460
US college campuses. And I think that that's what people are missing, is they think that they're like,
00:35:55.940
I have progressive friends. It's not that bad. The campuses that are, what's happening on the
00:36:01.060
campuses right now is not what you had to deal with before. And the rates of anti-Semitism are getting
00:36:07.360
significantly worse. So there was some, oh, I'll go, I'm not even going to go into the stats on this,
00:36:12.980
because it's boring. But yeah, just, it should be obvious to everyone, the rates of anti-Semitism
00:36:16.240
and anti-Semitic attacks are like at unhistorically high levels. And I guess what I'd say is a lot of
00:36:23.360
progressive Jews, and I'm going to play the little meme I did before, specifically like reformed Jews,
00:36:28.060
I've seen them so cowardly turn their back on what's really happening, or just believe these
00:36:34.560
echo chambers. And the only solace I have is barely any of them have kids, and their kids aren't really
00:36:39.660
Jewish to begin with anymore. I think that this whole situation is horrifying to me. It's horrifying
00:36:45.980
that it's gotten to this place, but I think that there are some positives at the end of the tunnel
00:36:51.020
here, right? The first being that if these attacks hadn't happened, I think when they finally did
00:36:57.780
happen, it would have been worse. An attack on the state of Israel by one of these organizations
00:37:02.440
was basically inevitable at this point. And a lot of people in Israel had become complacent about the
00:37:09.380
threat that was posed. And that this attack was able to happen by surprise, I think shows that level
00:37:14.660
of complacency. And there had began to become a lot of infighting in Israel. And to an extent that I
00:37:20.120
think it really begun to threaten the state of Israel, internal consistency. And I think that this
00:37:25.880
has shown a few things that I'm really excited about. Not excited about, but I think it shows a
00:37:32.540
few things that I don't know if it would have been in the best interest for Israel if this attack had
00:37:37.680
never happened. I think that this needed to water out. And I think when we look at the anti-Semitism
00:37:42.380
that's come from, this anti-Semitism was there. This just allowed it to be aired. And I think a lot of
00:37:49.200
people, a lot of Jews who had cozied up with progressives didn't realize how anti-Semitic the
00:37:55.100
progressive party had become and progressive activists had become. And so this hopefully was a
00:38:01.100
wake-up call that no, really, in the United States, we need to begin to fight anti-Semitism again. We need
00:38:06.860
to begin to call it out again. These people need to be shown the light and the public needs to know who
00:38:13.820
they are and what they really stand for. So I think that's one thing I'd say. The other thing I'd say is that
00:38:20.020
we do live in a world now where historically, you can see from this quote, like Qatar had journalists
00:38:25.040
on its payroll all around the world. They had become politicians. Some of them even received
00:38:29.200
basically salaries. And you're also talking about your personal social circles. If you historically,
00:38:34.720
even if you were getting your news from Fox or Breitbart, you're not going to hear this as much.
00:38:43.580
From a number of the sources that I listed as I was going through.
00:38:46.820
I know, but how do people restructure their media diet in a way that ensures that they hear from
00:38:53.900
these sources or just, I don't know, like I wasn't exposed to this information and I'm not
00:38:59.820
Yeah. So I'd say that for me, there are some people out there that just seem to be good at getting to
00:39:03.940
the truth. I like to think that our audience finds us to be one of those people. And obviously,
00:39:08.800
do your own digging. Whenever we say something, we get things wrong occasionally, but
00:39:13.020
who else? Like Richard Hanania, I read it. He often, fairly true in what he says.
00:39:24.020
Yeah. Because you can't really do any better than that anymore. And unfortunately, you do get a bit
00:39:30.100
of an echo chamber. Now that I've mentioned this, some other people will probably pick it up. It'll
00:39:33.900
probably get tweeted around a few times. That's the way things work. And yeah. And so then the
00:39:38.400
question here is how do we think about this? I personally don't particularly have animosity
00:39:43.420
towards Qatar. They're just playing their sociopolitical game right now. And-
00:39:50.200
Yeah. I don't have animosity towards Qatar. I don't have animosity towards Qataris. I don't
00:39:54.760
have automaticity towards most people. Saudis. Even your average cousin citizen, I don't really
00:40:00.000
have animosity too. I don't think of them as like really particularly lesser than other people,
00:40:05.080
but I can look at the larger geopolitical picture and say, without X, worse things happen.
00:40:12.700
Without Y, worse things happen. And I just don't see any other solution than what Israel is doing
00:40:17.960
right now, which makes me grateful that at least so far Israel has been staying the path.
00:40:23.720
Now, Israel could end up going further. They could end up doing something truly horrific,
00:40:28.980
and then I wouldn't support them anymore. I'm not saying I support Israel no matter what they do.
00:40:32.640
I say that right now, they seem to be taking the type of measured approach that I think is the
00:40:37.780
only- And people can be like, this approach isn't measured.
00:40:43.100
As long as there is a Palestine, there is going to be a problem. So I don't really understand-
00:40:48.160
No, no. Hold on. Gaza and Palestine are two totally different situations.
00:40:51.420
The culture within the two regions are different. The ethnic groups within the two regions are
00:40:55.900
different. The geopolitics of the two regions are different. There is a reason they were attacked
00:41:00.580
from Gaza. So you think that if they basically just completely take Gaza, that's it?
00:41:08.760
I think that the people- This is the problem, right? What Israel wants is these people to
00:41:14.740
immigrate to other countries. But no other country will take them because the last time they did,
00:41:19.240
they had a big revolt. And every time they did, even statistically, there was this case where the
00:41:22.720
Danish took some, and even their descendants three generations down are way more into crime and
00:41:27.660
stuff than other groups. It's a culture that is very different from the other surrounding regions.
00:41:32.460
There's a reason. Like, you have to ask yourself, why aren't any of the Arab countries taking these
00:41:36.300
people? If they care about these refugees, why aren't they taking them? Because they don't care
00:41:40.240
about the refugees. What they want is to use them to try to turn average, unthinking American activists
00:41:47.700
against the Jewish state. Where I think that I see, and you look at even the brutality of the two
00:41:54.660
groups, right? When I look at what Israel is doing right now, yes, obviously the damage that they are
00:42:00.420
putting out is on a much more large scale, but it is measured. It is civilization defending itself.
00:42:08.580
When I look at the types of things, the horrifying grapes that were filmed, the child killings,
00:42:14.520
and people are like, Israel kills kids too, by accident. The US kills kids too, by accident.
00:42:20.200
Every developed country, when they're at war, when we were fighting the Nazis, you don't think
00:42:23.760
babies died in the bombing of Dresden? Okay? Be realistic, bro. That is just the way war is,
00:42:30.960
and they did not choose to start this war. They were actually, just so people know, leading up to
00:42:35.560
the war, the amount of privileges they had given to the people of Gaza had risen dramatically because
00:42:40.360
they were trying to get this deal done with Saudi Arabia. So they were actually treating them
00:42:43.680
dramatically better than they had been in recent history. They had put in huge aid deals that were
00:42:49.660
going there. The situation is, I think, not the situation that a lot of people are being told.
00:42:54.580
And so, you know, you can only look at the wider world and be like, look, people are playing with
00:42:59.680
the hands they can play with. And I look at Qatar. Could Qatar realistically play a different hand than
00:43:04.740
the hand they're playing? Could Israel realistically play a different hand? I think Qatar could,
00:43:09.180
but it'd be hard and it'd be very risky. It would be very risky. And so I don't think they would.
00:43:14.560
When you tell them play a different hand, you're asking them individually to risk their lives.
00:43:19.700
And they don't have the same sorts of convictions or honor that I have. A lot of these people are just
00:43:24.820
intergenerational royalty, basically. And they don't come from backgrounds of fighting for freedom or
00:43:31.040
anything like that. They, yeah, I, it's a tough situation and I am sad for a lot of what I'm seeing,
00:43:38.120
but at the end of the day, this is civilization defending itself against people who in their
00:43:43.180
attacks act like the antithesis of civilization. True barbarism is what they want.
00:43:48.780
Yeah. And not just against their enemies, against their own. And that's where I'm like,
00:43:55.500
If you want to bring the people of Gaza from Hamas, this is the only way to do it.
00:43:59.660
And this then brings me, when I look at the people protesting on the behalf of this,
00:44:03.340
when I look at the people at these Columbia protests and stuff like that, I see that our
00:44:07.320
enemy, not only in the pro-natalist movement, do we have the enemy of the anti-natalist who like
00:44:11.680
want all things dead, but then there's this other side of like general progressivism, which is
00:44:15.900
a promotion of barbarism over civilization, a promotion of cruelty, just completely unnecessary
00:44:25.100
cruelty of it's, it's just so obvious to me, like who the good guys are in this.
00:44:31.300
Um, and it's not one of those situations where people are like, there's no good guys here.
00:44:39.080
Oh, Malcolm, you're my good guy. And I love you a lot.
00:44:41.280
It's our boys in blue, the blue, the star, sorry, the Israeli color is blue. Our boys in
00:44:46.960
blue are the good guys. And a lot of them who have families and kids at home are out dying right now
00:44:51.600
to preserve the country. We had a fan reach out to us. He's like, I'm deploying tomorrow.
00:44:55.160
I don't know what to say. I don't know what to put in place for my kids.
00:44:57.500
So to keep that in mind, these people, I just can't even, I can't even like they're dehumanizing
00:45:03.120
these people who are fighting for trying to create something that works. I, it's tough.
00:45:10.240
Anyway, love you. I love you too, Malcolm. All right. I'm glad we're talking again. I miss you.
00:45:17.220
We live in our center, but like, it doesn't change the fact that I know. I absolutely know the feeling.
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I feel the exact same way. And I am so thrilled for every one of these recording sessions and
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I'm going to be gone for a bit and that we won't be talking to each other on these is going to kill
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me. Maybe we can find an excuse to film some while I'm at my reunion. Maybe, but you're supposed to be
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busy socializing. So trying not to be weird. Okay. Speaking of, I actually have a reunion themed intro to