Based Camp - US Gov & Scientists Prove the Supernatural？ (The Telepathy Tapes & Project Stargate)

00:00:00.000 He was a key sponsor and advocate for the Stargate project.

00:00:02.640 He believed soldiers could phase through solid objects

00:00:05.260 by harnessing natural power and positive thinking.

00:00:09.380 Okay.

00:00:11.320 I'm picturing so many people just running into walls.

00:00:14.940 He reportedly attempted this himself in his office,

00:00:18.300 repeatedly running into a wall and injuring his nose.

00:00:21.360 No.

00:00:23.560 Yeah, because you got to believe it.

00:00:25.100 So you got to leave with your faith.

00:00:27.040 Positive thinking.

00:00:27.620 I just can't let it get me down.

00:00:29.160 But just, I bet if I have positive enough thoughts,

00:00:33.360 I'm going to phase through a wall.

00:00:36.340 Like, where's the metaphysics of that?

00:00:38.820 What religion believes this?

00:00:40.500 The telepathy tapes.

00:00:42.120 Simone is actually diagnosed autistic.

00:00:44.440 You can read minds.

00:00:48.960 People are having the same reaction.

00:00:51.380 Would you like to know more?

00:00:52.760 Hello, Simone. 0.69

00:00:53.680 I'm excited to be here today.

00:00:55.100 Today, we are going to be talking about two things.

00:00:57.880 The telepathy tapes and the various government projects

00:01:02.860 that claim to see the supernatural.

00:01:05.200 Project Stargate.

00:01:06.260 I'm going into both of these because these are two areas

00:01:08.660 where I have seen otherwise rational people,

00:01:11.640 like Rubyard, for example, of What a Vault Hiss,

00:01:14.100 who's been on the show.

00:01:15.240 He has one, like, episode that, like,

00:01:17.440 very earnestly looks at these government programs.

00:01:20.400 Oh, I listened to that one on an airplane.

00:01:23.320 Yes.

00:01:23.680 Preview solution of Arnica, Montana.

00:01:25.180 It's that.

00:01:25.580 That's right.

00:01:26.240 One part in a million.

00:01:27.400 I'm sure it looks serious.

00:01:28.780 You're right.

00:01:29.240 We need to strengthen those.

00:01:30.200 One part in 10 million.

00:01:31.180 The chakras are fading. 1.00

00:01:32.680 We need some crystals.

00:01:33.960 That.

00:01:34.420 Place some purple-sinted quartz. 0.99

00:01:38.320 Damn it, you're right. 0.99

00:01:39.160 Make that aquamarine quartz. 0.99

00:01:41.060 Look at this, Simon.

00:01:42.080 What is it?

00:01:42.900 Dead in this porch.

00:01:43.780 I've just got long to live.

00:01:44.700 Why not?

00:01:45.340 It's lifeline.

00:01:46.300 Very short.

00:01:46.920 For a listen.

00:01:49.860 Wait.

00:01:50.920 What?

00:01:51.860 We could try drawing a bit more lifeline on with Vyro.

00:01:54.620 It would never work.

00:01:56.160 You got a better idea?

00:01:58.200 Yeah, and I'm just like, oh, buddy.

00:02:01.580 You maybe should have dug a bit deeper on this

00:02:03.780 before taking this at face value.

00:02:05.960 Basically, when we get to it,

00:02:07.420 what you're going to learn is, like,

00:02:08.740 all of the high-level people

00:02:10.140 were also high-level people in Scientology.

00:02:12.600 Okay, to clarify here,

00:02:13.660 only, like, half were in Scientology.

00:02:15.460 The other were in other weird, mystical traditions.

00:02:19.040 But we'll get into those specifically when we get to it.

00:02:21.840 In Scientology, specifically?

00:02:23.200 Yeah, it was basically a Scientology term

00:02:24.920 for the U.S. government.

00:02:26.360 Okay.

00:02:28.260 It was basically a small branch of the U.S. government

00:02:31.560 that Scientologists extremists took over.

00:02:34.500 How do we get this?

00:02:35.200 And people like Rubyard then come across them 0.82

00:02:39.100 and take them seriously.

00:02:40.520 But it's the same as we go into the telepathy tapes.

00:02:43.300 We're going to go into why people believe them.

00:02:46.320 Because the way they present them,

00:02:48.160 it can seem plausible.

00:02:49.640 And then we're going to go over historical cases

00:02:52.000 that were similar to this,

00:02:53.040 like the case of Clever Howell.

00:02:55.040 Do you know Clever Hans, maybe?

00:02:57.500 Clever Howell?

00:02:58.660 The horse that could do math?

00:03:01.420 No.

00:03:02.880 Basically, this exact same thing happened before.

00:03:05.820 And it's funny, because in the telepathy tapes,

00:03:08.520 they take the methods they're using on humans

00:03:10.720 and they apply them to animals in one episode.

00:03:13.380 And they're like, animals are telepathic too.

00:03:15.920 It's like, oh my God, literal Clever Hansing it here.

00:03:19.600 Well, you know what?

00:03:20.160 I can't help but think of this concept of people

00:03:23.600 thinking that autistic people can read minds 1.00

00:03:26.620 or are telepathic because of that one Zealander line

00:03:29.980 where the female journalist is like, 1.00

00:03:32.700 she confesses.

00:03:34.720 She says, I was bulimic.

00:03:38.160 And Zealander's like, you can read minds.

00:03:42.600 And Hansel has this great like,

00:03:44.400 and that's, I feel like, I am autistic.

00:03:48.340 And then you can read minds.

00:03:58.380 And people are having the same reaction.

00:04:00.440 She says, you can read minds.

00:04:03.420 Oh my God.

00:04:05.560 By the way, Simone is actually diagnosed autistic.

00:04:08.540 I thought you were going to say I'm actually telepathic.

00:04:11.920 You're actually telepathic, okay.

00:04:13.860 So parents and caregivers report that their children

00:04:17.920 can quote unquote read thoughts,

00:04:19.800 such as guessing random numbers, words, or colors

00:04:21.980 that someone else is thinking of,

00:04:23.700 even when separated by rooms or distances.

00:04:25.980 For instance, in experiments described,

00:04:27.840 children reportedly achieve 95% accuracy

00:04:30.380 and guessing three-digit numbers or specific details,

00:04:33.920 a.g. parents' mental image,

00:04:35.500 without any verbal or visual cues.

00:04:37.920 Dr. Powell, a former Harvard faculty member

00:04:39.820 and parapsychologist,

00:04:41.260 claims to have documented this in controlled settings,

00:04:44.460 suggests it's not random,

00:04:46.040 but a form of mind-to-mind transition.

00:04:48.560 And he goes on here to say that there's other gifts as well

00:04:50.960 that these people have.

00:04:51.880 They can see auras, colored energy fields,

00:04:54.920 around people and animals and plants

00:04:56.540 that help diagnose things.

00:04:58.460 Speak or understand multiple languages

00:05:00.500 they've never learned.

00:05:01.660 Play musical instruments at a perfect pitch

00:05:05.380 and recall a song instantly.

00:05:07.420 Predict future events and visit people in their dreams.

00:05:10.860 Perceive time.

00:05:11.920 Now, I'd always note on the predicting future events one,

00:05:14.840 like whenever somebody's like X person

00:05:16.860 can predict future events,

00:05:17.920 I'm like, why aren't they rich?

00:05:19.560 Why aren't they rich?

00:05:20.480 If they can do this accurately,

00:05:21.500 why aren't they rich?

00:05:22.220 They should be incredibly easy to play markets

00:05:26.280 if you can predict future events.

00:05:28.400 And they're like,

00:05:29.060 markets aren't personally meaningful to them.

00:05:31.140 And I'm like, okay,

00:05:31.700 put their life savings on a market.

00:05:33.320 Now it's personally,

00:05:34.400 now it's emotionally salient

00:05:35.920 if they lose in the future.

00:05:37.600 It'd be really cool though,

00:05:38.520 if like all the secret billionaires in the world

00:05:40.760 just actually are,

00:05:42.640 they can just see into the future.

00:05:44.200 They just keep their mouths shut.

00:05:45.600 You know, like the way it's going to be

00:05:46.640 when someone like cracks quantum computing

00:05:48.460 and they just start, you know,

00:05:50.300 mining a bunch of Bitcoin,

00:05:51.300 but they keep it quiet.

00:05:52.360 They don't go too far.

00:05:53.220 So no one notices.

00:05:54.140 And then a bunch of people like act

00:05:55.280 as though they can do this

00:05:56.260 and they can't really,

00:05:57.440 you know, all the financial.

00:05:58.040 You'd actually be able to tell really quickly.

00:06:00.640 That's a relief.

00:06:01.840 Enough people monitor the way billionaires invest

00:06:04.380 that if they were doing something like that,

00:06:06.220 they'd immediately be flagged

00:06:07.420 for insider trading.

00:06:09.260 I mean, they could develop an algorithm

00:06:10.860 that prevented that from happening,

00:06:12.040 but I don't think they'd get away with it for,

00:06:13.600 like it would be more difficult.

00:06:14.960 Yeah, just because you can tell the future

00:06:16.400 doesn't mean you're good with algorithms.

00:06:18.100 But I'm talking about these people

00:06:19.160 aren't even like their main income sources

00:06:21.040 and even investing.

00:06:21.840 And at the very least, it should be.

00:06:23.880 You know, perceived time non-millennially,

00:06:27.060 e.g. foreseeing accidents weeks in advance

00:06:29.420 or since energy flows and geometric patterns

00:06:32.040 that align with concepts from quantum physics

00:06:34.200 or ancient mysticism.

00:06:35.540 So how does he explain this?

00:06:38.360 Dr. Powell proposes that autism

00:06:40.600 isn't just a quote-unquote disorder,

00:06:42.780 but a neurodivergent state

00:06:44.260 where the brain filters less information,

00:06:46.640 allowing access to a shared informational field

00:06:49.960 or collective consciousness.

00:06:51.700 She links this to brain structures

00:06:53.660 like enlarged ventricles,

00:06:55.900 heightened midline activity,

00:06:58.980 or overactive pineal gland,

00:07:00.820 often called the third eye in spiritual traditions.

00:07:03.360 And you see, this is why we shouldn't let women be doctors. 1.00

00:07:06.520 This is a, this, this was a mistake here.

00:07:10.400 Well, he was riding his bike

00:07:11.980 when there was a lightning strike

00:07:13.260 and now he raves real fast.

00:07:14.660 He's good at science and math.

00:07:16.040 Black doctor. 0.77

00:07:18.620 I'm going to go out on a limb here. 0.85

00:07:19.980 Where exactly did he get the bike?

00:07:21.940 He stole it.

00:07:22.920 Right, that's what I thought.

00:07:23.880 No, I'm joking.

00:07:25.580 Some episodes suggest that this is an evolutionary trait

00:07:34.820 with autistic individuals as tuned receivers 0.68

00:07:37.500 for subtle energies and neurotypical people ignore

00:07:40.780 due to reliance on language and logic.

00:07:43.400 Context and popularity.

00:07:44.740 It had gained traction through endorsements

00:07:46.540 like Joe Rogan, who discussed it on his show in 2024.

00:07:49.820 No.

00:07:50.580 And Russ Culsart, a UFO journalist,

00:07:52.660 who interviewed you out in 2025.

00:07:54.640 Oh.

00:07:55.500 Thank you, Joe Rogan.

00:07:58.120 I was actually just talking with a reporter from Politico

00:08:00.740 and she goes, well, you know, who could,

00:08:03.120 like, who's a new right figure?

00:08:04.620 Who could beat J.D. Vance in the next election cycle?

00:08:07.860 I was like, Joe Rogan probably could.

00:08:11.100 Rogan for president.

00:08:12.160 He's probably the most presidential candidate, I think.

00:08:14.020 He'd clean up.

00:08:14.460 Yeah.

00:08:15.180 And it would help his career as well.

00:08:16.580 So, you know, why not?

00:08:18.660 Oh, no.

00:08:19.140 All right.

00:08:19.360 You didn't think about that, but it would.

00:08:24.340 It would.

00:08:25.180 Well, I mean, I think, you know,

00:08:26.380 Trump's first run was largely inspired by that, too.

00:08:29.780 Like, at least it's good for press.

00:08:32.100 Mm-hmm.

00:08:33.440 All right.

00:08:34.400 So, let's go into some of the episodes

00:08:37.140 and claims in the show.

00:08:39.200 Okay.

00:08:39.640 Starting with the one that I think people find most compelling.

00:08:43.340 Mind reading with near-perfect accuracy

00:08:45.420 and controlled tests.

00:08:46.480 One standout story involves a 13-year-old nonverbal girl named Mia

00:08:51.100 who reportedly demonstrated telepathy

00:08:53.060 by accurately identifying words, numbers, and objects

00:08:55.680 that were shown only to her mother

00:08:57.420 while Mia was blindfolded in a separate space. 0.98

00:09:00.540 In tests filmed by podcast host Key Dickens

00:09:03.280 and psychiatrist Dr. Diane Hennessy,

00:09:06.580 pal Mia achieved 100% accuracy,

00:09:10.180 such as spelling out random numbers or words

00:09:12.600 like those on hidden slips of paper.

00:09:15.100 Her mother described this as a shared consciousness

00:09:17.720 where Mia could tap into her thoughts effortlessly.

00:09:21.820 I think a control protocol.

00:09:23.420 Okay.

00:09:24.160 So, Mia was blindfolded and separated 0.99

00:09:25.980 from direct view of the stimuli.

00:09:27.600 Her mother was shown a target,

00:09:29.600 e.g. a random three-digit number like 698,

00:09:33.180 a word slip on a slip of paper,

00:09:35.460 or a page from a book showing a character

00:09:37.960 like a pirata or pirate.

00:09:41.080 The mother might react verbally, e.g. exclaiming,

00:09:44.160 oh, in excitement, or physically touch Mia,

00:09:46.640 e.g. on the hand or forehead or jaw for support.

00:09:49.500 Quote-unquote.

00:09:50.580 There's a diversity of places to touch someone for support.

00:09:54.160 You're beginning to see why people are like,

00:09:56.180 why didn't you just leave the mother in the other room? 1.00

00:09:58.620 Why did you let her come back and interact with the child?

00:10:01.620 After the mother internalized the information, 1.00

00:10:04.020 Mia removed the blindfold and spelled out the answer

00:10:06.200 by pointing at letters on the board

00:10:07.660 held by her mother as well.

00:10:10.400 By the way, if you're creating one of these,

00:10:12.680 you wouldn't have the mother doing all of that. 0.59

00:10:15.380 No, mother stays in the separate room.

00:10:17.620 Daughter never sees mother.

00:10:19.380 Yeah, variations.

00:10:21.100 In one test, the mother opened the book to a random page

00:10:23.460 and asked Mia to identify the character.

00:10:25.400 Mia spelled pirata, which matched.

00:10:27.540 Another involved sorting colored popsicle sticks

00:10:30.120 while blindfolded.

00:10:31.320 The mother handed Mia a stick.

00:10:33.360 Why does the mother keep interacting with her in these? 0.79

00:10:35.660 Well, we'll see why in just a second.

00:10:37.660 Kept her hand on Mia's forehead or blindfold

00:10:39.720 and Mia moved her hand left or right

00:10:43.000 to drop it in the correct spot.

00:10:44.740 Tests with the father used similar random stimuli,

00:10:48.060 but Mia either stopped mid-response

00:10:49.720 or failed to answer.

00:10:51.700 But it only works with the mother. 1.00

00:10:54.200 How curious.

00:10:55.740 How curious.

00:10:56.860 That doesn't at all mirror the way Clever Howe was debunked.

00:11:02.240 Duration and repetition sessions included multiple trials,

00:11:04.680 but footage shown was selective.

00:11:07.640 E.g., they always showed it working,

00:11:09.440 but they didn't show the full footage.

00:11:11.220 Now they say, oh, the reason we had to show it to you

00:11:13.240 in short clips was one, so that it could be paywalled,

00:11:16.780 but for 999 to view it on the podcast site.

00:11:19.320 But Mia's anxiety was noted as a factor,

00:11:22.040 increasing her need for physical support from the mother.

00:11:24.660 But then why did physical support from the father,

00:11:27.020 who she apparently trusted as well, also work?

00:11:29.300 No comment.

00:11:33.340 Anyway, yeah, the father thing to me

00:11:35.960 is a big hole in that one.

00:11:37.740 Yeah.

00:11:38.240 And they're like, oh, well, there were witnesses.

00:11:41.520 And I'm like, yeah, and all the witnesses' careers

00:11:43.360 required this working out in a specific way.

00:11:46.460 Like, why don't you do this with skeptical people?

00:11:48.740 Why don't you?

00:11:49.620 It'd be an easy thing to do,

00:11:51.340 to do as one of the debunkers, right?

00:11:53.300 Like, there's people who make their career

00:11:55.500 debunking paranormal frauds.

00:11:57.440 Why not just call one of them in

00:11:59.340 and if it works in the way you say it works,

00:12:02.300 they would immediately convert to your way of thinking

00:12:04.540 and you could convert a lot of disbelievers,

00:12:08.600 but they don't do that.

00:12:09.920 They keep it only within the realm of other believers.

00:12:12.840 Now, we've got another one here.

00:12:14.600 Composing music through lucid dreams.

00:12:16.820 Now, some of these, or most of these,

00:12:18.720 other than that first one,

00:12:19.720 it's like, I don't even need to debunk something.

00:12:21.720 It's just pretty obvious what's going on.

00:12:23.540 Okay.

00:12:23.720 So, in this one, a mother in England

00:12:27.260 shared a vivid account of her nonverbal autistic son

00:12:30.360 communicating with her via dreams to co-create music.

00:12:33.380 Starting at age 11,

00:12:34.580 the son would appear to her in lucid dreams,

00:12:37.300 handing her symbolic items,

00:12:41.200 like an Ace of Spades card,

00:12:43.020 to convey needs such as specific supplements.

00:12:46.200 Over time, this involved in him,

00:12:47.980 so basically, she thought her son was coming to her

00:12:50.320 in her dreams and telling her supplements

00:12:52.340 and stuff that she needed to give him,

00:12:54.280 which is kind of sad,

00:12:55.980 because that's probably not what was happening.

00:12:57.740 She was giving her son random supplements.

00:13:00.020 But, you know, kooky granola people

00:13:01.880 be kooky granola people, right?

00:13:04.580 Over time, this evolved into him,

00:13:06.560 quote-unquote, delivering full musical compositions

00:13:08.580 directly into her mind during these dream states.

00:13:12.860 The son, now a respected musician,

00:13:15.280 reportedly uses this message to collaborate with her,

00:13:18.060 transmitting melodies and lyrics

00:13:19.680 that she then records.

00:13:21.720 This story was highlighted as an example of telepathy,

00:13:24.880 blending with creativity,

00:13:26.440 suggesting nonverbal individuals

00:13:27.760 can access and share ideas nonphysically.

00:13:31.360 This is just a sad case of the mother 0.65

00:13:33.360 crediting her music to her nonverbal autistic son.

00:13:37.580 So nonverbal.

00:13:38.480 Okay, so some more information on this particular case.

00:13:42.220 The son can actually sing,

00:13:44.380 he just can't compose the music on his own.

00:13:46.820 So his mom composes the music

00:13:48.460 and then gives the music to him

00:13:50.120 and he copies her to learn how to sing it.

00:13:53.100 And some of these songs have become famous

00:13:54.660 of like autistic guy sings

00:13:56.180 supposedly about having autism.

00:13:57.680 The mom writes the songs about having autism,

00:14:00.260 inspired by her son's life.

00:14:02.120 What's interesting about this case is

00:14:03.620 never before 2014,

00:14:05.440 when the telepathy tapes came out,

00:14:08.400 had this kid or mom,

00:14:10.520 both of whom were fairly famous for their songs,

00:14:12.760 ever mentioned this communication

00:14:15.000 from Through Dreams or anything like that.

00:14:17.700 This is completely unique to the telepathy tapes

00:14:20.320 and sort of comes out of nowhere.

00:14:22.160 Yeah, I was going to ask

00:14:23.180 if the son had attested to this,

00:14:25.760 but he can't because he can't talk.

00:14:30.280 Very convenient.

00:14:31.700 Yeah.

00:14:32.000 All right, telepathic romance

00:14:34.980 and communication with the deceased.

00:14:37.540 So here's a fun one.

00:14:39.960 Okay.

00:14:40.780 Particularly emotional tale.

00:14:43.920 Oh, this gets questionable here.

00:14:49.200 Two nonverbal autistic teens,

00:14:52.020 20-year-old Lily and 17-year-old JP,

00:14:55.500 were said to have fallen in love

00:14:57.000 primarily through mind-to-mind communication.

00:14:59.100 They reportedly talked telepathically,

00:15:01.820 synchronizing actions,

00:15:03.040 like texting to meet at the exact same moment.

00:15:06.500 It's something all people do

00:15:08.040 when they're dating as teens.

00:15:09.620 It's just like, oh my gosh.

00:15:10.900 We texted each other at the same moment.

00:15:13.740 Oh, okay.

00:15:14.800 That's just proof that we can...

00:15:18.080 And then shared interests like biking or poetry.

00:15:21.560 I know they're very unique.

00:15:23.600 You like long walks on beaches as well?

00:15:26.660 Oh, my God.

00:15:28.380 It can only be the work of...

00:15:29.640 This is crazy.

00:15:30.480 Tell me, do you actually like pumpkin spice?

00:15:32.940 Is this also a thing that you're crazy about?

00:15:35.380 I don't know.

00:15:35.660 I imagine, like they said across from each other,

00:15:38.260 do you like pumpkin spice lattes too?

00:15:40.900 And then it plays that music.

00:15:42.160 Dun, dun.

00:15:43.160 Like something scary.

00:15:44.900 And poetry.

00:15:47.640 Dun, dun.

00:15:48.080 Oh, my God.

00:15:51.840 Anyway, tragically, after JP's death,

00:15:54.620 I really continued to communicate with him,

00:15:56.820 spelling messages like,

00:15:58.040 I see him as energy.

00:15:59.740 He tells me he loves me,

00:16:01.140 and for me to tell our story.

00:16:03.060 Oh.

00:16:04.040 Just let her believe that.

00:16:06.160 Yeah.

00:16:06.520 That's sad.

00:16:07.260 Yeah.

00:16:08.280 But not a lot in there that I can't explain.

00:16:11.240 Like, this is the thing.

00:16:12.740 There's just not a lot of great evidence in here.

00:16:16.080 Here's another one.

00:16:16.920 Accessing knowledge through others' senses

00:16:19.460 and predicting the future.

00:16:21.140 Several families recounted their children

00:16:23.000 borrowing others' senses,

00:16:25.040 such as a nonverbal child

00:16:26.340 reading entire books like Harry Potter

00:16:28.080 by tapping into his sibling's mind

00:16:30.480 while they read.

00:16:33.100 Okay.

00:16:34.540 Others claimed to see through teachers' eyes

00:16:36.780 or hear through their ears,

00:16:38.780 compensating for their own sensory challenges.

00:16:41.500 Additionally, kids reportedly predicted events

00:16:43.900 like warning parents about a bad land purchase

00:16:46.900 via messages from the other side.

00:16:49.320 I love that the ghosts are getting into real estate.

00:16:57.600 This is an unsound purchase.

00:17:01.020 Our new historical facts.

00:17:03.060 There's a fun, no historical fact one

00:17:05.060 of this woman who lives in Egypt

00:17:06.360 and thinks she's like a reincarnated Egyptian.

00:17:08.480 No, that's fun.

00:17:09.900 Yeah, it is fun.

00:17:11.020 She's living her best life.

00:17:11.900 She dresses up like an ancient Egyptian 1.00

00:17:13.960 and lives in Egypt now.

00:17:15.200 Yeah, go for it.

00:17:18.040 You go for it.

00:17:19.000 Yeah.

00:17:19.760 We need more of that in the world. 0.81

00:17:21.980 I haven't looked into what's ridiculous 0.95

00:17:23.920 about these ones.

00:17:25.640 I like the warning about a bad land purchase.

00:17:28.060 Did the land purchase turn out to be bad?

00:17:29.860 So this one took place in India

00:17:32.140 and it turns out that what the kids said

00:17:34.760 was something like that the well on the land is bad

00:17:38.040 or that the land purchase was going to be bad.

00:17:40.420 And then the parents did another inspection

00:17:42.020 and they found a bad well on the land.

00:17:44.220 I mean, it's anecdotal, but it's, you know, something.

00:17:50.220 Like these days, more often than not,

00:17:52.600 it's a negatory, but my gosh, this is so interesting.

00:18:00.140 But apparently this has been very convincing to post-rats.

00:18:03.100 Well, you know what's interesting actually though?

00:18:04.800 Now that I'm thinking about like our kids' explanations

00:18:07.140 for a lot of things,

00:18:10.140 what do they pretty much always say when we ask them

00:18:12.940 who took this thing?

00:18:14.820 Who did this thing?

00:18:15.960 Ghosts.

00:18:16.200 Who broke ghosts?

00:18:17.300 It is ghosts.

00:18:18.160 Oh yeah.

00:18:18.540 Our family, we were inclined to believing in ghosts.

00:18:21.160 Our kids, I get you not, every time.

00:18:23.260 Every time, ghosts.

00:18:24.340 We come down and there's a mess.

00:18:25.900 The kids will say, we didn't, ghosts did it.

00:18:29.540 We'll be like, you did it.

00:18:30.600 Ghost is.

00:18:31.960 Yeah.

00:18:32.720 It is the ghosts.

00:18:33.880 Which ghosts is?

00:18:35.680 Ghost.

00:18:36.080 They even said, when you asked them,

00:18:39.640 what do you think mommy does all day? 1.00

00:18:41.060 And they said, fighting ghosts.

00:18:42.840 You know, it's true, right?

00:18:45.160 It's what us autists have to do.

00:18:48.100 I wonder if like, yeah, maybe the thing is

00:18:49.860 the parents are unknowingly autistic too

00:18:54.040 and therefore too credulous.

00:18:57.300 And they just kind of believe stuff too easily.

00:18:59.860 And that's also an understated factor here

00:19:03.200 where they're not trying to mislead people.

00:19:05.440 They just literally don't get it.

00:19:09.860 That like when their kid says or expresses

00:19:13.440 that something is coming from beyond the veil,

00:19:17.020 their kid's just saying stuff.

00:19:19.220 So the thing is, with this,

00:19:21.080 is this isn't the first time this has happened either.

00:19:23.460 This happened in, when I was growing up

00:19:25.820 with something called Indigo Children.

00:19:27.080 Do you remember Indigo Children?

00:19:28.460 It rings a bell.

00:19:29.640 I can't define it though.

00:19:31.400 So parents didn't want to believe their children

00:19:33.360 were just like autistic or slow or something. 0.85

00:19:36.060 Okay.

00:19:36.360 And so they believed that they were a new generation

00:19:38.960 that had been gifted like a unique amount of empathy

00:19:41.720 and intelligence and like the ability to like

00:19:44.680 see the future and stuff by like aliens or something.

00:19:48.060 Or like mystical forces.

00:19:49.240 And they thought that humanity was waking in

00:19:51.340 to like a new hyper-evolved age.

00:19:54.220 Athena was diagnosed as Indigo at a young age by her mother.

00:19:57.300 I began delving into spirituality and vibrations, past lives.

00:20:03.140 So fun, Indigo Children.

00:20:05.900 I mean, now I think, yeah, this is,

00:20:08.480 and you see other forms of this cope

00:20:10.460 showing up with terms like 2E or twice exceptional

00:20:14.140 where parents are like,

00:20:16.000 oh, it's not just that my son is autistic, he's 2E.

00:20:19.940 And that like, okay, yeah, he's autistic,

00:20:21.600 but he's like also really good at math

00:20:23.780 or like amazing at the violin.

00:20:25.400 Because they're trying to say that they're twice exceptional.

00:20:28.040 Like they're, okay, maybe there's this one thing

00:20:30.480 where they're like really, like he's nonverbal,

00:20:32.480 but like he's really good at this

00:20:34.140 and that makes him notable.

00:20:36.060 But I feel like that's the modern version of that.

00:20:37.860 But then the telepathy tapes is this.

00:20:39.560 But it isn't because these kids aren't exceptional in any way.

00:20:42.260 They are just autistic. 0.99

00:20:44.280 Just admit that your kids are who they are.

00:20:46.660 Like stop trying to make them into something they're not.

00:20:49.080 Let them lean into their strengths

00:20:50.320 and their strengths are not supernatural.

00:20:54.000 Well, you know.

00:20:55.240 Unless you can sell them.

00:20:56.440 Like if you can set up an Etsy shop for your autistic kid

00:21:00.240 where they do their readings.

00:21:02.240 As you know, we were looking yesterday,

00:21:03.700 people were selling spells for $345.

00:21:06.640 Mind break.

00:21:08.200 So let's go to that thing again.

00:21:10.000 I want to go into this 0.94

00:21:11.000 because I want to go into how ridiculous it is. 0.90

00:21:13.400 Okay. 0.84

00:21:13.600 In Mia's test,

00:21:15.480 her mother or other facilitator

00:21:17.220 physically supports her

00:21:18.740 by holding the letter board,

00:21:21.020 grasping her chin,

00:21:22.660 placing a finger on her forehead,

00:21:24.600 or making contact while Mia points to letters.

00:21:27.360 It's a human Ouija board.

00:21:29.020 She's just...

00:21:30.760 A human Ouija board, yeah.

00:21:32.400 Podcasts show the mother adjusting the board's position,

00:21:35.260 looting her body,

00:21:36.180 or touching Mia in ways

00:21:37.200 that could subtly guide her 0.59

00:21:38.320 towards the quote-unquote correct letters,

00:21:40.180 even if unintentionally.

00:21:41.560 And when we get to the Clever Howl case,

00:21:42.800 it was unintentional.

00:21:43.760 So we know this can happen unintentionally.

00:21:45.340 No, I think most of this is innocent.

00:21:47.680 Video analysis by mentalist Peter Turner

00:21:50.020 revealed the mother's hands

00:21:51.820 guiding Mia's movements.

00:21:53.180 So to be clear what I'm saying here,

00:21:55.340 a guy whose full-time job

00:21:57.280 is tricking people with magic tricks

00:21:59.440 watched even the limited and edited video

00:22:02.460 that we have access to of this

00:22:03.840 and was like,

00:22:05.100 oh, here's how she's doing it. 1.00

00:22:06.800 Here's exactly what she's doing. 0.99

00:22:08.260 And this is a very common way

00:22:09.520 of performing this particular trick.

00:22:11.300 This is classic FC,

00:22:13.180 which was popularized in the 1990s

00:22:15.140 and debunked by over 60 double-blind studies,

00:22:18.180 showing that when the facilitator

00:22:20.100 doesn't know the answer,

00:22:21.400 e.g. is shown a different issue than the child,

00:22:23.100 the communication fails entirely.

00:22:25.560 Powell's similar early experiments

00:22:28.120 with a child named Haley in 2014

00:22:30.220 used the divider for quote-unquote separation,

00:22:32.940 but the facilitator still had the stencil

00:22:34.980 and knew the answers,

00:22:36.540 allowing for unconscious cueing

00:22:38.080 through posture shifts, verbal prompts,

00:22:40.100 e.g. announcing decimals,

00:22:41.580 or waiting for quote-unquote

00:22:43.420 correct selections before proceeding.

00:22:46.040 These weren't truly blinded

00:22:47.460 and results couldn't be replicated

00:22:49.060 under stricter conditions.

00:22:50.720 While the podcast claims separation,

00:22:53.420 Mia blindfolded the area, 0.96

00:22:54.780 prevents signaling,

00:22:55.700 we know this is not the case.

00:22:57.800 So this is where I want to get to clutter, Hans,

00:22:59.540 because I think that this is a story

00:23:01.980 that everyone should know

00:23:02.940 because it helps you see similarities like this.

00:23:04.940 So around 1900s,

00:23:06.820 a retired math teacher named William von Austin

00:23:09.980 acquired a horse named Hans

00:23:12.020 and trained him over several years

00:23:13.360 to perform seemingly advanced tasks.

00:23:16.740 Hans would answer questions

00:23:18.400 by tapping his hoof a certain number of times

00:23:20.840 or nodding slash shaking his head.

00:23:23.760 For example, he would be asked to add three plus five.

00:23:27.340 Hans would tap eight times.

00:23:28.900 He could reportedly solve more complex problems

00:23:31.620 like square roots, fractions,

00:23:32.880 or even non-mass tasks

00:23:34.680 such as identifying musical notes,

00:23:36.900 telling time from a clock,

00:23:38.820 spelling words in German,

00:23:40.540 or distinguishing colors.

00:23:42.380 Von Austin genuinely believed Hans was intelligent

00:23:44.980 and demonstrated this publicly in Berlin,

00:23:47.880 attracting crowds, scientists, and media attention.

00:23:50.520 Hans performed for free

00:23:51.800 and von Austin never charged money,

00:23:53.840 insisting it was proof of animal cognition.

00:23:56.480 The horse's ability drew international.

00:23:58.440 So you see, not trying to make this train show,

00:24:00.540 I got a smart horse.

00:24:01.380 Check it out.

00:24:02.920 Or yeah, he's like,

00:24:03.880 he seems like some kind of proto-pita person

00:24:06.500 to be like,

00:24:07.040 listen, animals are intelligent.

00:24:09.700 Although I'm looking at pictures

00:24:10.940 of clever Hans right now

00:24:12.300 and I think that horse is underfed.

00:24:14.620 I don't know.

00:24:15.340 He looks a little,

00:24:16.520 maybe the horses today are too fat,

00:24:18.320 but he looks a little too svelte for me.

00:24:20.620 So in 1907,

00:24:22.480 psychologist Oscar Funxt

00:24:24.360 conducted a more rigorous investigation

00:24:26.720 because there had been light investigations before this,

00:24:28.700 but this guy was like,

00:24:29.580 okay, let's actually put controls in place.

00:24:32.300 He discovered Hans wasn't actually doing math

00:24:34.720 or thinking independently.

00:24:36.580 He said the horse was extensively sensitive

00:24:39.060 to subtle unintentional cues

00:24:40.800 for the person asking the question.

00:24:42.440 He quote unquote handler or questioner.

00:24:44.460 Key findings.

00:24:45.780 Hans would start tapping

00:24:47.060 when a question was posed

00:24:48.620 and stop when he reached the correct number.

00:24:51.360 Funxt noticed that the questioner,

00:24:53.080 including Austin,

00:24:54.120 would unconsciously tense up,

00:24:55.620 shift posture slightly,

00:24:56.660 erase eyebrows or even alter their breathing

00:24:59.420 as Hans approached the right answer.

00:25:01.560 These micro signals,

00:25:02.680 often invisible to the naked eye,

00:25:04.500 prompted Hans to stop tapping.

00:25:06.360 For instance,

00:25:07.000 a slight forward lean

00:25:08.020 or widening of the eyes signaled,

00:25:09.860 that's it.

00:25:10.920 The control experiment.

00:25:12.180 When the questioner didn't know the answer,

00:25:14.300 e.g. the problems were hidden from them,

00:25:16.160 Hans' accuracy dropped to near zero.

00:25:18.460 Similarly,

00:25:19.220 if the questioner was out of sight behind a screen

00:25:21.500 or wore a blindfold,

00:25:22.880 Hans failed.

00:25:23.360 But if a new handler was introduced

00:25:25.880 who knew the answer,

00:25:27.060 Hans regained his skills,

00:25:29.140 showing it wasn't specific to Von Austin,

00:25:31.560 but that any human providing clues

00:25:33.600 would cause this effect.

00:25:35.780 So Hans was clever.

00:25:37.600 He was a clever boy.

00:25:38.120 He was clever,

00:25:39.000 just not in the way they thought.

00:25:40.700 And this created something called

00:25:42.140 the clever Hans effect.

00:25:43.260 And the guy,

00:25:44.580 clearly,

00:25:44.960 if you had a horse

00:25:45.660 and anyone you put in front of this horse,

00:25:48.140 it would get to the right number,

00:25:49.780 you're going to be like,

00:25:50.340 this horse,

00:25:51.080 no,

00:25:51.680 but apparently it didn't know.

00:25:56.080 It was just very good at telling.

00:25:57.680 And,

00:25:57.780 and these sorts of controls

00:25:59.480 are what was not put in place

00:26:01.400 with the telepathy files.

00:26:03.020 And so we literally just have clever Hans

00:26:05.200 over again now that they're applying

00:26:06.480 their same experimental protocol

00:26:08.280 to animals.

00:26:09.820 Horses really are smart though.

00:26:11.340 Every time I've ridden a horse,

00:26:12.620 it's gone terribly wrong

00:26:13.700 and it's because they can smell fear.

00:26:15.300 They just know.

00:26:16.580 There was Fritz,

00:26:17.560 the fat pony,

00:26:18.480 my first ever horse experience

00:26:20.400 when riding him

00:26:21.820 in the Santa Cruz mountains

00:26:22.800 and he just exhaled really heavily

00:26:25.620 and the saddle loosened up.

00:26:27.380 And after riding sort of upside down

00:26:29.180 on the saddle,

00:26:29.860 clinging to it for as long as I could

00:26:31.860 on a steep hillside,

00:26:34.120 I just,

00:26:34.980 I came falling off.

00:26:36.540 Fritz lost me.

00:26:37.420 And then there was Buzz.

00:26:39.080 Opposite,

00:26:39.640 he wasn't himself a fat horse,

00:26:41.200 but he was a very,

00:26:42.220 very large horse

00:26:43.060 for obese people in Hawaii

00:26:44.600 that I found myself riding.

00:26:46.660 He discovered that I absolutely

00:26:48.240 had no assertiveness

00:26:49.220 or ability

00:26:50.040 to exert control.

00:26:51.580 And so he just ran away

00:26:52.800 from everyone

00:26:53.820 galloping very quickly.

00:26:57.620 So,

00:26:58.900 Buzz and Fritz, 0.92

00:26:59.640 clever Buzz,

00:27:00.660 clever Fritz,

00:27:01.780 clever horses,

00:27:03.000 not,

00:27:03.320 not psychic.

00:27:05.440 So,

00:27:06.080 now let's go to Project Stargate

00:27:07.240 because I promised you guys

00:27:08.700 we'd get into that stuff

00:27:09.900 that

00:27:10.260 they called it Stargate?

00:27:13.080 Yeah,

00:27:13.300 they called it Stargate.

00:27:14.160 That Rubyard thought 1.00

00:27:15.280 meant that we have,

00:27:17.540 if you're going to say

00:27:18.460 that like telepathic phenomenon

00:27:19.740 exists,

00:27:20.160 you need enormous proof

00:27:21.500 for this,

00:27:21.960 right?

00:27:22.240 Yeah.

00:27:22.800 And the U.S. government

00:27:24.240 running stuff

00:27:25.040 would be enormous proof.

00:27:26.540 I mean,

00:27:26.760 if the U.S. government

00:27:27.840 hadn't shut it all down

00:27:29.000 specifically because

00:27:29.800 it wasn't producing results,

00:27:31.120 if it was producing results,

00:27:32.580 they would have kept it going

00:27:33.780 and you wouldn't know

00:27:34.540 about these programs.

00:27:35.980 And the thing is,

00:27:36.520 is that the people

00:27:37.080 who were high up

00:27:37.900 to these programs

00:27:38.520 and like talking

00:27:39.320 about these programs,

00:27:40.200 it's not like

00:27:40.640 these programs

00:27:41.480 had been secretly successful

00:27:43.840 and it turns out

00:27:46.080 that what they were doing

00:27:46.740 was just making it

00:27:47.440 look like they failed

00:27:48.300 and then taking the higher ups

00:27:49.300 and putting them

00:27:49.800 on more advanced stuff.

00:27:51.120 The higher ups

00:27:51.700 wouldn't be on talk shows

00:27:52.920 complaining about the programs

00:27:54.080 being shut down,

00:27:55.000 right?

00:27:55.860 And being Scientologists

00:27:57.620 and other sorts of

00:27:58.680 like wacko stuff

00:27:59.620 saying that demons

00:28:00.400 talk to them

00:28:01.160 and stuff like that.

00:28:03.060 Wait,

00:28:03.700 there are Scientology

00:28:04.700 as demons?

00:28:05.860 No,

00:28:06.080 these are other people

00:28:07.160 involved.

00:28:07.380 There was a lot 0.50

00:28:08.040 of crazy people

00:28:08.640 involved in this.

00:28:09.260 Project Stargate

00:28:11.040 was a secretive

00:28:11.620 U.S. government program

00:28:12.380 primarily run by

00:28:13.000 the U.S. Army

00:28:13.400 and Defense Intelligence

00:28:14.160 that investigated

00:28:15.340 paranormal phenomenon

00:28:16.200 for potential military

00:28:17.120 and intelligence applications

00:28:18.160 active around the 1970s

00:28:20.020 until its termination

00:28:21.160 in 1995.

00:28:22.680 The program's core focus

00:28:23.700 was on quote-unquote

00:28:24.640 remote viewing,

00:28:25.780 the alleged psychic ability

00:28:26.940 to perceive distant

00:28:28.400 or hidden events,

00:28:29.360 sites,

00:28:29.740 or information

00:28:30.380 through extrasensory means

00:28:32.160 without physical presence.

00:28:33.620 It began amid the Cold War

00:28:34.860 over fears

00:28:35.900 that the Soviet Union

00:28:36.880 was advancing parapsychology,

00:28:38.320 prompting the United States

00:28:39.860 to explore similar capabilities

00:28:41.460 for espionage

00:28:42.380 such as locating

00:28:43.480 enemy installations

00:28:44.200 or missing persons.

00:28:45.440 The program involved

00:28:46.360 experiments conducted

00:28:47.360 at Stanford Research Institute,

00:28:49.680 SRI International,

00:28:51.040 and later Fort Meade, Maryland

00:28:52.380 with a small team

00:28:53.800 of quote-unquote viewers

00:28:54.580 who claimed to sketch

00:28:56.140 or describe targets

00:28:57.440 based on coordinates

00:28:58.180 or vague prompts.

00:28:59.360 Okay.

00:29:00.660 Project Sunstreak

00:29:01.920 was a smaller part of this

00:29:03.900 based on remote viewing.

00:29:05.540 It operated the DIA 0.94

00:29:07.520 from 1989 to 1990.

00:29:09.440 It presented

00:29:10.480 a continued refinement

00:29:12.020 of earlier programs

00:29:12.980 like Grill,

00:29:13.960 Flame,

00:29:14.680 and Center Lane

00:29:15.380 emphasizing psychogenics,

00:29:17.220 mental processes

00:29:17.940 for the intelligence gathering.

00:29:20.100 Psychogenics?

00:29:21.080 They wanted to see

00:29:22.060 if they could

00:29:23.720 like view

00:29:24.320 Soviet installations

00:29:25.420 and stuff like that

00:29:26.480 from far away

00:29:27.240 using psychic powers.

00:29:28.900 Isn't it sweet

00:29:29.600 that we can just

00:29:30.120 do that now

00:29:31.640 with like

00:29:32.160 modern technology?

00:29:33.060 One notable

00:29:34.720 declassified example

00:29:35.820 was a 1988 attempt

00:29:37.340 to physically locate

00:29:38.420 the biblical Ark

00:29:39.200 of the Covenant

00:29:39.680 to quote-unquote

00:29:41.700 view its

00:29:42.420 supposed resting place

00:29:43.840 in Ethiopia

00:29:44.300 or elsewhere.

00:29:45.380 That's so sweet.

00:29:46.720 They're like,

00:29:47.380 well,

00:29:48.000 if we could find anything,

00:29:49.900 let's find the Ark.

00:29:51.460 Well,

00:29:51.860 it would prove them right.

00:29:53.020 Like,

00:29:53.180 this is the thing, right?

00:29:54.180 If this stuff worked,

00:29:55.880 you should be able

00:29:56.720 to do things

00:29:57.380 like find the Ark.

00:29:58.580 The fact that you

00:29:59.320 can't find the Ark

00:30:00.340 shows that it's not working.

00:30:01.940 I don't know.

00:30:02.480 What if your finding

00:30:03.600 abilities are based

00:30:04.620 on like,

00:30:05.060 I know the shape

00:30:05.820 of it.

00:30:06.360 You know,

00:30:06.600 there's a,

00:30:07.680 you know,

00:30:07.840 the dimensions

00:30:08.500 or I know

00:30:09.040 what it feels

00:30:09.740 like textually

00:30:10.760 or I,

00:30:11.940 you know,

00:30:12.380 I don't,

00:30:12.940 I don't buy that

00:30:14.600 because no one

00:30:15.020 knows exactly

00:30:15.860 what the Ark looks like.

00:30:16.860 I know the Bible

00:30:17.360 has very specific

00:30:18.520 descriptions,

00:30:20.440 but.

00:30:21.920 By the way,

00:30:22.400 it was shut down

00:30:23.260 after $20 million

00:30:24.700 in two decades.

00:30:26.320 Oh,

00:30:27.420 oh,

00:30:28.280 this makes USA 0.57

00:30:29.300 look saintly.

00:30:30.740 Oh,

00:30:31.040 dear.

00:30:31.360 No.

00:30:33.180 Remember,

00:30:34.240 this is the program

00:30:34.960 where they would do

00:30:35.420 stuff like stare

00:30:35.980 at goats to try 0.99

00:30:36.700 to kill them.

00:30:38.160 Did it ever work? 0.99

00:30:39.560 Did the goats

00:30:40.060 just die of boredom?

00:30:42.420 Okay,

00:30:42.720 so the official sources

00:30:44.020 say no goats

00:30:45.160 died,

00:30:46.080 but people who

00:30:46.900 were involved

00:30:47.660 say goats

00:30:48.460 died.

00:30:49.360 So Guy

00:30:50.040 Savelli's claim,

00:30:51.320 Savelli,

00:30:51.660 a martial arts

00:30:52.280 instructor recruited

00:30:53.360 for the program,

00:30:54.520 asserted he killed

00:30:55.400 a goat by staring

00:30:56.280 at it during an

00:30:56.980 experiment with 30

00:30:57.980 numbered goats.

00:30:58.700 So basically he

00:30:59.980 was,

00:31:00.340 you know,

00:31:00.580 so we don't

00:31:01.040 have a goat

00:31:01.420 die randomly

00:31:02.140 and then say,

00:31:02.780 hey, 0.99

00:31:02.920 I killed that 0.99

00:31:03.520 goat. 0.98

00:31:04.380 So he targeted

00:31:05.460 goat number 16,

00:31:06.880 but claimed that

00:31:08.600 an accident caused

00:31:09.580 him to accidentally

00:31:11.240 kill goat number

00:31:12.060 17 instead.

00:31:13.840 A separate video

00:31:14.600 of a goat

00:31:15.220 experiment showed

00:31:16.340 its heart rate

00:31:16.880 dropped temporarily

00:31:17.660 from 65 to 55

00:31:19.120 beats per minute.

00:31:21.360 What I love so much

00:31:22.360 is the Guy

00:31:22.760 Savelli claim,

00:31:23.580 which appears to be

00:31:24.380 false because it's

00:31:24.960 not in the military

00:31:25.880 records,

00:31:26.420 that he did this.

00:31:28.220 He didn't even do

00:31:28.820 it right in his

00:31:29.920 made up claim.

00:31:31.260 He targeted the

00:31:32.120 wrong goat. 1.00

00:31:32.600 I guess that's to

00:31:33.180 make it sound more

00:31:33.720 believable.

00:31:34.820 If we had invented

00:31:36.040 the death stare,

00:31:36.860 we'd be using it

00:31:37.580 in battle.

00:31:38.220 We'd have our

00:31:38.940 psychic troops,

00:31:40.280 like Yuri does

00:31:41.440 from Red Alert 2,

00:31:42.800 going into battle

00:31:43.640 like,

00:31:43.980 if this was something

00:31:45.780 we could do.

00:31:46.300 So let's talk about

00:31:47.400 the people involved

00:31:48.260 in this,

00:31:48.620 okay?

00:31:49.200 The device is called

00:31:50.620 the psychic dominator.

00:31:52.680 There is a network

00:31:53.620 of such devices

00:31:54.660 spread across the

00:31:55.500 globe.

00:31:56.420 More of your

00:31:57.320 mind control

00:31:58.360 tricks?

00:31:59.560 No tricks,

00:32:00.240 Mr. President.

00:32:01.500 In a few moments,

00:32:02.660 I will unleash

00:32:03.420 a tidal wave

00:32:04.220 of psychic energy

00:32:05.240 designed to

00:32:06.500 dominate the minds

00:32:07.460 of an entire

00:32:08.500 planet.

00:32:09.600 There will be

00:32:10.200 no more

00:32:10.860 free will,

00:32:12.720 only my will.

00:32:15.460 So Hal

00:32:16.440 Puroff,

00:32:17.980 the physicist

00:32:18.800 and SRI

00:32:19.680 project director.

00:32:21.100 Puroff,

00:32:21.560 who led the

00:32:22.480 SRI viewing

00:32:23.500 experiments funded

00:32:24.240 by the CRA,

00:32:24.860 was deeply

00:32:26.000 involved in

00:32:26.600 Scientology in

00:32:27.260 the 1960s and

00:32:28.060 70s.

00:32:28.680 He reached the

00:32:29.480 advanced open

00:32:30.240 Thetan OT level

00:32:31.660 seven.

00:32:33.520 Wow,

00:32:33.840 really high.

00:32:34.660 By 1971.

00:32:36.280 How high does it

00:32:37.240 go?

00:32:37.860 I can't remember.

00:32:38.920 I think it might

00:32:39.800 only go to eight.

00:32:40.800 So at this level,

00:32:42.180 you would definitely

00:32:43.380 know about Xenu.

00:32:44.620 The highest level

00:32:45.300 is eight.

00:32:45.780 So he was one

00:32:46.300 level away from

00:32:46.880 the highest possible

00:32:47.480 level.

00:32:47.860 A stage in

00:32:51.000 Scientology involving

00:32:52.040 beliefs in body

00:32:53.240 thetans, disembodied

00:32:54.580 spirits attached to

00:32:55.360 humans, and

00:32:56.240 auditing to remove

00:32:57.160 them for spiritual

00:32:57.920 enlightenment.

00:32:59.340 Puroff credited

00:33:00.100 Scientology with

00:33:01.040 giving him absolute

00:33:02.040 fearlessness and

00:33:03.480 wrote positively

00:33:04.120 about it, though

00:33:05.600 he severed ties in

00:33:06.560 the late 70s.

00:33:07.600 His Scientology

00:33:08.400 background influenced

00:33:09.280 early experiments as

00:33:10.240 he incorporated

00:33:10.720 techniques resembling

00:33:11.760 Scientology's e-meter,

00:33:13.320 a device for

00:33:13.900 measuring spiritual

00:33:14.680 states, into

00:33:15.780 psychic research.

00:33:16.720 So this wasn't

00:33:17.700 just a government

00:33:18.480 researching psychic

00:33:19.620 stuff.

00:33:20.180 They were using

00:33:21.000 the literal e-meters

00:33:22.240 that Scientologists

00:33:23.120 use in their

00:33:24.380 research to prove

00:33:25.360 that this stuff

00:33:25.900 was real.

00:33:26.740 And I note that

00:33:27.460 this was actually

00:33:28.040 true throughout

00:33:30.100 this.

00:33:30.740 So we've got

00:33:31.920 another guy here,

00:33:33.060 Igno Swan.

00:33:35.060 All right?

00:33:35.820 So Swan claimed

00:33:37.800 to have, he was

00:33:38.900 the key remote

00:33:39.980 viewer, the guy

00:33:40.700 who did like

00:33:41.260 seeing things far

00:33:42.240 away.

00:33:42.660 So when you're

00:33:43.060 like, when you

00:33:43.800 hear about somebody

00:33:44.440 did remote viewing

00:33:45.300 correctly, you're

00:33:46.340 hearing about

00:33:46.680 this guy often, and

00:33:48.100 he might have

00:33:49.140 even developed

00:33:49.620 the term remote

00:33:50.520 viewing, and he

00:33:51.580 was the co-developer

00:33:52.700 of the remote

00:33:53.280 viewing protocols.

00:33:54.400 So sort of the

00:33:54.980 lead, both

00:33:56.180 participant and

00:33:57.500 researcher on a

00:33:58.500 lot of these

00:33:58.800 projects.

00:33:59.360 Okay.

00:33:59.820 So he was a

00:34:01.080 celebrity

00:34:01.580 Scientologist in

00:34:02.440 the 1970s where

00:34:03.280 he achieved high

00:34:03.920 OT levels and

00:34:05.040 wrote essays on

00:34:05.700 how Scientology's

00:34:06.420 techniques could

00:34:06.960 enhance psychic

00:34:07.600 integration and

00:34:08.260 consciousness

00:34:08.640 exploration.

00:34:10.040 Swan viewed

00:34:10.520 himself as a

00:34:11.180 consciousness

00:34:11.520 researcher who

00:34:12.560 experienced altered

00:34:13.400 states blending

00:34:14.160 Scientology's

00:34:15.820 Seton-based

00:34:16.480 cosmology with

00:34:18.060 his claims of

00:34:18.660 astral projection

00:34:19.380 and extraterrestrial

00:34:20.200 encounters, seeing

00:34:21.380 alien bases on

00:34:22.180 the moon.

00:34:22.860 He featured in

00:34:23.680 Scientology publications

00:34:24.700 and defended his

00:34:25.860 paradigms for

00:34:26.420 Psy research, though

00:34:27.420 he laid his

00:34:28.000 distance himself for

00:34:29.040 it somewhat.

00:34:29.940 Note that that was

00:34:30.760 not his only crazy

00:34:31.940 things.

00:34:32.600 He claimed to have

00:34:33.280 psychologically

00:34:33.740 explored the dark

00:34:34.760 side of the moon

00:34:35.320 during a session

00:34:36.080 allegedly tasked by a

00:34:37.940 secret government

00:34:38.420 agency.

00:34:39.100 So the government was

00:34:39.840 paying him.

00:34:40.760 He's exploring the

00:34:41.600 far side of the moon.

00:34:42.440 What does he see

00:34:43.400 there?

00:34:43.980 He describes seeing

00:34:44.820 alien bases with

00:34:46.560 structures like towers

00:34:47.700 and domes where

00:34:48.940 humanoid figures engaged

00:34:50.980 in mining operations

00:34:52.140 using advanced

00:34:52.900 machinery.

00:34:54.140 He believes these

00:34:54.860 beings were

00:34:55.340 extraterrestrials

00:34:56.420 monitoring Earth and

00:34:57.880 he detailed encounters

00:34:58.940 with them in his

00:35:00.440 book Penetration

00:35:01.880 suggesting a hidden UFO

00:35:03.580 presence that governments

00:35:06.200 were covering up.

00:35:07.400 Swan also reported

00:35:08.360 telepathic interactions

00:35:09.580 with those entities,

00:35:10.940 viewing them as part of a

00:35:12.140 broader cosmic

00:35:12.860 intelligence.

00:35:13.760 How did he get away

00:35:14.580 with that book title?

00:35:16.240 Good God.

00:35:18.000 And note here,

00:35:18.540 I'm not scoffing here

00:35:19.600 because he believes in

00:35:20.880 aliens or UFOs or

00:35:22.420 something like that.

00:35:23.180 All that stuff is

00:35:24.060 perfectly reasonable to

00:35:26.200 have skepticism around.

00:35:27.640 But believing that

00:35:28.460 there are aliens that

00:35:29.580 look humanoid with

00:35:30.960 large mining operations

00:35:32.800 on the dark side of

00:35:34.020 the moon is something

00:35:35.560 quite different.

00:35:36.840 Why would they set

00:35:37.860 something like that up?

00:35:38.980 We'd almost certainly

00:35:39.920 have the technology to

00:35:41.040 detect that at this

00:35:41.960 point.

00:35:42.620 And why would they

00:35:43.880 look like humans?

00:35:45.480 I mean, I can see

00:35:46.800 plausible reasons for

00:35:47.940 each of these things.

00:35:49.160 It's just one of those

00:35:50.220 it's a bit too big and

00:35:52.260 a bit too specific and

00:35:54.200 said with a bit too

00:35:55.580 much confidence to not

00:35:56.740 just come off as

00:35:57.400 crazy town.

00:35:58.180 But what I'm pointing

00:35:58.840 out here is if these

00:36:00.200 had actually worked,

00:36:01.240 like if the lead guy in

00:36:02.300 this actually was able

00:36:04.140 to do this and then

00:36:06.180 they had decided to

00:36:06.960 cover it up, which is

00:36:07.660 what would have to

00:36:08.100 happen because the

00:36:08.640 program was for public

00:36:10.460 knowledge shut down

00:36:11.500 in disgrace, this

00:36:13.380 guy would not be

00:36:15.120 making his money on

00:36:15.960 like going to

00:36:17.720 paranormal conferences

00:36:18.960 and writing book

00:36:19.800 tours, right?

00:36:20.520 And and doing the

00:36:21.460 Scientology rounds,

00:36:22.600 right?

00:36:23.180 He would be he would

00:36:24.900 be.

00:36:25.180 Don't you understand?

00:36:26.380 He lives this

00:36:27.220 illustrious TV style

00:36:28.540 double life where by

00:36:29.660 day he's on the talk

00:36:30.600 shows and then it

00:36:31.740 doesn't take that long

00:36:32.800 to astral project and

00:36:34.200 explore the dark side

00:36:35.420 of the moon.

00:36:36.000 I mean, please, you

00:36:36.980 can do it in five

00:36:37.720 minutes.

00:36:39.200 Yeah.

00:36:40.420 So much money.

00:36:42.160 Oh, my God.

00:36:42.960 Oh, any dames was one 1.00

00:36:47.220 of the others in this.

00:36:49.800 So dames conducted what 0.83

00:36:51.720 he called the most

00:36:53.480 dangerous experiment

00:36:54.760 attempting to remotely

00:36:56.200 view Satan or the devil

00:36:57.560 himself.

00:36:58.160 Oh, right.

00:36:59.320 The entity not as a

00:37:00.700 biblical demon, but as

00:37:02.040 a fallen angel who

00:37:03.360 delights in orchestrating

00:37:04.460 human suffering and

00:37:05.480 global catastrophes

00:37:06.620 during these sessions,

00:37:08.440 dame reported terrifying

00:37:09.600 visions of demonic

00:37:10.980 forces and warned that

00:37:12.700 psychic exploration

00:37:13.920 could invite spiritual

00:37:15.920 wits.

00:37:16.520 The government didn't pay

00:37:17.440 someone to look at

00:37:18.220 Satan.

00:37:18.760 Wait, was this

00:37:19.260 government funded?

00:37:20.700 Yeah, government

00:37:21.240 funded.

00:37:21.820 He also predicted

00:37:22.800 apocalyptic events

00:37:24.000 through remote viewing,

00:37:25.240 including a massive

00:37:26.080 solar kill shot that

00:37:27.360 would devastate the

00:37:28.100 earth, alien invasions

00:37:29.780 and other doomsday

00:37:30.860 scenarios tied to

00:37:31.860 extraterrestrial threats

00:37:33.280 and biblical prophecies.

00:37:35.060 I hope you're getting

00:37:35.940 an idea here.

00:37:36.660 I think when people

00:37:37.580 like Ruby yard

00:37:38.500 discussed this, no,

00:37:40.360 nothing about Ruby yard.

00:37:41.320 I made a mistake in a

00:37:42.240 recent episode too.

00:37:43.120 I looked into all the

00:37:44.660 money that Qatar was

00:37:45.340 spending on U.S.

00:37:45.940 universities and I

00:37:46.640 assumed they were doing

00:37:47.280 it for influence, but it

00:37:48.120 turned out they were

00:37:48.560 doing it to set up

00:37:49.280 universities in their

00:37:50.100 own country, but it

00:37:51.220 was branches of U.S.

00:37:52.400 universities.

00:37:53.280 And so that wasn't

00:37:53.900 actually a smoking gun

00:37:54.600 for influence.

00:37:55.020 And I said that just

00:37:55.740 because I didn't do the

00:37:56.980 second step in the

00:37:57.720 research because I didn't

00:37:58.460 think to.

00:37:58.920 I was like, why else would

00:37:59.780 they be giving so much

00:38:00.960 money to U.S.

00:38:01.520 universities?

00:38:02.540 You know, they do

00:38:02.980 appear to also give the,

00:38:04.800 you know, Hamas's major 1.00

00:38:06.360 donor, like the

00:38:07.420 universities are going

00:38:08.440 into, it lined up in my

00:38:09.980 mind, but it was wrong.

00:38:11.280 In this case, not that

00:38:13.360 Qatar isn't influencing

00:38:14.320 U.S.

00:38:15.060 policy to be more pro

00:38:16.100 Hamas or that they 0.99

00:38:17.300 don't have an interest in

00:38:18.040 doing that.

00:38:18.460 It's just the university

00:38:19.720 donation thing was not

00:38:20.940 the smoking gun I thought

00:38:21.680 it was.

00:38:22.500 But with, so I'm

00:38:24.400 pointing out here, I make

00:38:25.120 mistakes too.

00:38:26.280 I can see you're Ruby

00:38:27.500 yard, you're somebody

00:38:28.260 else.

00:38:28.540 This stuff is presented

00:38:29.860 to you by somebody who's

00:38:31.360 pro this stuff, right?

00:38:32.760 And so they come up to

00:38:33.960 you and they're like,

00:38:35.240 well, they were able to

00:38:36.540 see like these, these

00:38:38.160 distant crashes.

00:38:39.100 And then they went and

00:38:40.160 they visited the crash and

00:38:41.440 it was exactly where they

00:38:42.780 said it was.

00:38:44.120 And you're like, oh,

00:38:44.980 that's really cool.

00:38:45.900 Like that, that's, I

00:38:47.600 have no other way.

00:38:48.560 And the government was

00:38:49.560 doing this.

00:38:49.940 The CIA was doing this

00:38:51.220 like, man, that sounds

00:38:52.560 super legit.

00:38:53.540 And then somebody else

00:38:54.580 says, and everyone

00:38:57.500 involved was a high

00:38:58.340 ranking Scientologist

00:38:59.380 and they thought they

00:39:01.640 were talking to demons

00:39:02.720 and, and then you're

00:39:04.280 like, whoa, why didn't

00:39:05.760 first, why didn't you

00:39:06.680 mention this to me?

00:39:08.280 No, not everyone

00:39:09.040 involved with a high

00:39:09.800 ranking Scientologist,

00:39:10.680 but a, a, a number of

00:39:12.300 the leading figures

00:39:13.120 were.

00:39:13.720 And typically when you

00:39:14.680 go into this government

00:39:15.500 stuff and then you just

00:39:16.780 need to like research

00:39:18.760 who was doing it, who

00:39:20.220 was running it.

00:39:21.040 What other crazy things

00:39:22.480 did this person say?

00:39:23.440 Oh, aliens are about to

00:39:24.600 take over the earth and

00:39:26.000 the sun's about to

00:39:27.140 shoot us.

00:39:27.720 And he talked to the 1.00

00:39:28.760 devil.

00:39:29.880 Maybe, maybe I'm going

00:39:32.720 to take this.

00:39:33.680 The plane was exactly

00:39:34.840 where I thought it was

00:39:35.960 with a bit more of a

00:39:37.420 grain of salt after I

00:39:39.120 see the other stuff.

00:39:42.080 All right, let's go

00:39:42.880 into some of the cases

00:39:43.580 that people are like,

00:39:44.400 this stuff just can't

00:39:45.340 be explained any other

00:39:46.400 way.

00:39:47.120 So first, Swan, the

00:39:48.980 Scientology guy we talked

00:39:49.920 about before was task

00:39:51.280 was describing Jupiter's

00:39:52.740 rings before any

00:39:54.360 spacecraft had imaged

00:39:56.100 them closely.

00:39:56.820 He reported a ring

00:39:57.600 system around the

00:39:58.320 planet, describing it

00:39:59.580 as a band of crystals.

00:40:02.180 All right, great.

00:40:03.720 The problem is that

00:40:05.200 jovial rings had

00:40:06.020 actually already been

00:40:07.080 predicted to be made

00:40:08.240 up of particles in

00:40:10.500 scientific literature

00:40:11.380 from occlusion data in

00:40:12.600 the 1950s.

00:40:14.100 And most of the other

00:40:15.840 information he gave

00:40:16.800 about the planet was

00:40:17.560 wrong.

00:40:18.040 They don't mention that.

00:40:19.240 They mention, oh, the

00:40:20.200 explanation of the

00:40:21.520 rings, but he got a

00:40:22.900 bunch of other stuff

00:40:23.720 wrong about the

00:40:24.400 planet.

00:40:24.660 Okay, Price was given

00:40:25.980 coordinates, this is Pat

00:40:27.660 Price, for a Soviet 1.00

00:40:29.320 nuclear test site in

00:40:30.620 Kazakhstan.

00:40:31.720 He described underground

00:40:32.620 facilities, a large

00:40:33.760 crane, spherical tanks,

00:40:35.640 particle beam research,

00:40:37.080 details matching

00:40:38.340 classified U.S.

00:40:39.380 intelligence, later

00:40:40.360 confirmed by satellite

00:40:41.340 imagery.

00:40:42.420 Unfortunately, this is

00:40:43.960 what Price told people

00:40:45.040 until things were

00:40:46.180 declassified and found

00:40:47.420 out that this particular

00:40:48.360 viewing was considered

00:40:49.900 a failure.

00:40:50.680 The stuff he described

00:40:52.260 like a large crane and

00:40:53.320 spherical tanks were

00:40:54.280 pretty much ubiquitous

00:40:55.600 across the Soviet sites

00:40:56.960 at the time, and the

00:40:58.680 information he gave in

00:40:59.900 terms of, like, layout of

00:41:00.860 the facility and

00:41:01.640 everything was wrong.

00:41:02.920 All right, what about

00:41:03.360 this one?

00:41:04.140 McGonagall remotely

00:41:05.280 viewed a Soviet shipyard

00:41:06.600 describing a massive new

00:41:08.120 submarine with 20

00:41:09.020 missile tubes, a flat

00:41:10.520 deck, and twin nuclear

00:41:11.900 reactors.

00:41:12.700 He predicted its launch

00:41:13.760 date was in days.

00:41:15.300 Satellite photos later

00:41:16.200 confirmed the Typhoon-class

00:41:18.180 sub existed as

00:41:19.340 described.

00:41:19.960 Except the Typhoon-class

00:41:22.540 was very similar to

00:41:24.180 just, like, a larger

00:41:25.100 version of pre-existing

00:41:26.500 Soviet-types, and we

00:41:28.620 already had some

00:41:29.580 intelligence leaks on

00:41:31.000 the Typhoon-type class

00:41:32.540 that it's very likely he

00:41:34.440 might have had access to

00:41:35.600 given the guy who was

00:41:37.280 running this, which we'll

00:41:38.100 get into in a second, and

00:41:39.200 would have just pretend

00:41:39.960 that he didn't know

00:41:40.840 about.

00:41:41.440 For the launch date,

00:41:42.620 coincidence.

00:41:43.460 I mean, they're like it

00:41:44.160 was close.

00:41:44.960 It wasn't right on the

00:41:45.820 dot.

00:41:46.740 Okay, next.

00:41:48.520 What about McGonagall

00:41:51.100 when he helped

00:41:52.360 Dozer's captivity in

00:41:53.840 Italy, where he was

00:41:54.860 held by red-brigaded

00:41:56.520 terrorists, including

00:41:57.900 building details and

00:41:59.000 nearby landmarks?

00:42:00.440 This aided in his

00:42:01.340 rescue.

00:42:02.300 Okay, so this one is

00:42:03.360 often mistold here.

00:42:05.100 The psychics did 0.89

00:42:06.240 participate, and people

00:42:07.900 did listen to what the

00:42:09.300 psychics told them in

00:42:10.740 terms of trying to find

00:42:12.000 the guy.

00:42:12.880 The problem is that

00:42:13.700 everything that they

00:42:14.380 listened to, like going

00:42:15.280 to Verona instead of

00:42:16.360 Padua, led to a dead

00:42:18.340 end.

00:42:19.080 He was actually found

00:42:20.400 through conventional

00:42:21.620 police methods, and

00:42:23.460 himself, the guy who

00:42:24.680 was found, said the

00:42:25.820 psychics had nothing to

00:42:27.080 do with me being found.

00:42:28.900 But because the

00:42:30.040 psychics were involved,

00:42:31.600 and a few of the

00:42:32.800 building details matched

00:42:33.940 up, even though all the

00:42:34.800 information they gave

00:42:35.620 that was followed turned

00:42:37.100 out to be a waste of

00:42:37.840 time, they claimed that

00:42:39.500 they actually helped

00:42:40.760 find this.

00:42:41.380 Now let's go to the

00:42:42.020 guy who was running all

00:42:43.520 of this so we can

00:42:44.460 understand why, when

00:42:46.320 you hear things like,

00:42:47.240 oh, there's no other

00:42:47.980 way to explain that, you

00:42:49.660 can't exactly trust what

00:42:51.200 was written down or

00:42:52.320 reported until we got

00:42:53.720 the leaked documents.

00:42:54.900 So let's keep going

00:42:55.640 here.

00:42:56.700 Major General Albert

00:42:57.940 Burt Stublamine III,

00:42:59.560 with a high-ranking U.S.

00:43:00.680 Army officer who served

00:43:02.280 as the commander of the

00:43:03.020 U.S. Army Intelligence

00:43:03.960 and National Security

00:43:04.920 in SCOM from 1981 to

00:43:07.540 1984, he was a key

00:43:09.440 sponsor and advocate for

00:43:10.520 the Stargate project,

00:43:11.380 pushing for its funding

00:43:12.160 and integration into

00:43:12.860 military intelligence

00:43:13.620 operations.

00:43:14.780 Beyond Stargate, he was

00:43:15.760 involved with other

00:43:16.420 government-backed

00:43:17.080 paranormal investigations,

00:43:18.860 including predecessors like

00:43:20.240 Grillframe and Center

00:43:21.260 Lane, which evolved into

00:43:22.280 Stargate, as well as

00:43:23.720 High Performance Task

00:43:24.560 Force.

00:43:24.840 So another thing that's

00:43:25.540 important to note is

00:43:26.960 all of, or almost all of

00:43:28.560 these projects that the

00:43:29.420 government had that

00:43:30.140 showed paranormal stuff

00:43:31.360 were run by one guy who

00:43:33.580 was a true believer and

00:43:35.360 willing to just hire

00:43:36.720 anyone in terms of, like,

00:43:38.700 the credibility of these

00:43:39.760 people.

00:43:40.220 You think if you're

00:43:41.300 trying to prove paranormal

00:43:42.420 things, the last person

00:43:44.180 you'd hire is a high-ranking

00:43:45.520 Scientologist, or much

00:43:47.300 less multiple high-ranking

00:43:49.180 Scientologists.

00:43:50.120 Yeah.

00:43:52.060 Skeptics would be better,

00:43:53.660 but...

00:43:54.640 Yes.

00:43:56.040 So he was notorious for

00:43:57.740 promoting a range of

00:43:58.980 outlandish and fringe ideas

00:44:00.140 rooted in psychic and

00:44:01.420 paranormal phenomenon, often

00:44:03.080 inspired by New Age

00:44:03.940 concepts like First Earth's

00:44:05.400 Battalion Manual by

00:44:06.500 Lieutenant Colonel Jim

00:44:07.440 Chatton, which envisioned

00:44:08.940 warrior monks using non-violent

00:44:10.640 mind-based tactics.

00:44:12.300 Some of his most crazy

00:44:13.800 ideas were he believed

00:44:15.640 soldiers could phase

00:44:16.760 through solid objects by

00:44:18.440 harnessing natural power

00:44:20.000 and positive thinking.

00:44:22.020 Okay.

00:44:23.960 I'm picturing so many people

00:44:25.500 just running into walls.

00:44:27.580 He reportedly attempted

00:44:29.340 this himself in his office,

00:44:30.940 repeatedly running into a

00:44:32.260 wall and injuring his nose.

00:44:34.020 No!

00:44:34.340 Yeah, because you've got to

00:44:37.000 believe it.

00:44:38.040 So you've got to lead with

00:44:38.840 your face.

00:44:39.340 Positive thinking!

00:44:40.220 I just can't let it get me

00:44:41.400 down! 0.99

00:44:42.500 Whack! 1.00

00:44:43.560 Whack! 1.00

00:44:44.000 I can just imagine somebody

00:44:45.920 else, like, what are you

00:44:46.900 doing?

00:44:47.420 I'm trying to run through the

00:44:48.900 wall!

00:44:49.500 What's the power of positive

00:44:50.880 thinking?

00:44:51.340 Oh my god.

00:44:52.760 But just some metaphysics

00:44:54.520 of this.

00:44:55.060 How do you even get to

00:44:56.580 stage one with this?

00:44:58.100 How do you even go from,

00:45:00.360 like, I bet if I have

00:45:02.440 positive enough thoughts,

00:45:04.340 I'm going to phase through

00:45:05.460 a wall.

00:45:06.920 Like, where's the

00:45:08.260 metaphysics of that?

00:45:09.600 What religion believes this?

00:45:11.460 What weird practice

00:45:13.460 believes this?

00:45:15.040 Anyway.

00:45:15.820 This was the 80s.

00:45:17.200 There were various

00:45:18.260 substances out there

00:45:19.540 at the time,

00:45:21.080 if memory serves.

00:45:23.060 Oh.

00:45:24.040 That does make sense.

00:45:25.420 Yeah.

00:45:25.620 Now that we're thinking

00:45:26.040 about some of other things.

00:45:27.380 It's a lot of power.

00:45:29.020 He required his battalion

00:45:30.140 commanders to learn how

00:45:31.240 to bin spoons with their

00:45:32.640 minds, a la Uri Geller,

00:45:34.780 as part of training

00:45:35.520 their psychic abilities.

00:45:37.900 I do love this idea.

00:45:39.220 It's literally like that

00:45:41.260 South Park where the two

00:45:42.020 groups of psychics fight

00:45:43.100 against each other.

00:45:43.740 All right, everyone!

00:45:44.740 Oh, goodness!

00:45:55.840 What's going on?

00:45:57.120 Stand back, Mother! 1.00

00:45:57.860 We're having a

00:45:58.360 telekinetic battle of men!

00:46:02.340 Enough! 1.00

00:46:06.160 I want to know why.

00:46:08.860 Exactly what he's doing.

00:46:10.420 Building a crew of...

00:46:11.720 Like, he recruited that

00:46:12.800 group of psychics to, like,

00:46:14.520 go up to other military

00:46:15.820 people.

00:46:16.800 And then, of course,

00:46:17.540 what happens to them

00:46:18.400 is what happens when

00:46:19.320 we see them on the

00:46:20.000 battlefield, what happens

00:46:20.900 to the psychics in

00:46:21.680 South Park where they

00:46:22.380 just immediately get

00:46:23.320 shot. 1.00

00:46:24.740 Get your head down! 0.96

00:46:25.500 Spread them!

00:46:26.740 Stand back!

00:46:27.560 Don't make me do it!

00:46:28.780 Don't make me do it!

00:46:30.140 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:46:32.980 The psychic detective's

00:46:34.400 horrible crime was found

00:46:35.600 out by psychic detective

00:46:36.920 Eric Cartman, who is now

00:46:38.980 the only psychic not

00:46:40.180 behind bars.

00:46:41.300 What an amazing

00:46:41.920 coincidence.

00:46:42.800 Well, you know, yeah,

00:46:44.380 like, I mean, there's so

00:46:45.360 many projects like this.

00:46:46.400 There was Acoustic Kitty,

00:46:47.480 you know, just immediately

00:46:48.580 got ran over.

00:46:50.060 This is when they spent

00:46:50.880 millions of dollars

00:46:51.820 attaching equipment to

00:46:53.460 a cat so that it could

00:46:54.280 hear, like, what was going

00:46:55.120 on around it and use it

00:46:55.820 as a spy and it was

00:46:56.660 immediately run over.

00:46:58.160 He endorsed experiments

00:46:59.160 where soldiers tried to

00:47:00.120 stop the heart of goats

00:47:01.160 or other animals like

00:47:02.280 hamsters purely through

00:47:03.840 intense mental focus and

00:47:05.060 staring, aiming to develop

00:47:06.660 non-lethal psychic weapons.

00:47:10.200 Non-lethal?

00:47:11.140 I guess so.

00:47:12.960 So it would stop the

00:47:13.820 heart of a hamster, but it

00:47:14.860 would just cause palpitations

00:47:17.140 in a human, presumably, I

00:47:18.980 guess.

00:47:20.300 He advocated for training

00:47:21.620 programs involving biofeedback,

00:47:23.780 meditation, yoga, and

00:47:25.240 extrasensory protection to

00:47:27.180 create super soldiers capable of

00:47:29.120 remote viewing, mind control,

00:47:30.960 and pacifying enemies with

00:47:32.240 harmonic sounds or positive

00:47:34.080 vibes instead of traditional

00:47:35.260 warfare.

00:47:35.680 What's so interesting, though,

00:47:36.860 is that we have, like, these,

00:47:38.320 like, targeted microwave

00:47:39.820 attacks, allegedly, from the

00:47:42.320 Russians now.

00:47:43.840 And, I mean, already, I can

00:47:45.480 typically non-lethally

00:47:48.260 compromise a human within

00:47:50.580 staring distance by using a

00:47:52.200 taser.

00:47:52.860 So there, we have some

00:47:53.960 solutions out.

00:47:54.780 I think these solutions...

00:47:55.680 Who's the microwave attacks

00:47:57.040 that you're talking about?

00:47:57.960 The ones that people thought

00:47:58.820 happened in Cuba apparently

00:47:59.800 never happened.

00:48:01.360 No.

00:48:02.440 I'll double-check it in

00:48:03.420 post, but if I remember

00:48:04.000 correctly, it came out that

00:48:04.940 they were just being

00:48:05.980 spazes.

00:48:06.940 They were just, like, 0.97

00:48:07.840 psychosomatic nonsense. 0.97

00:48:10.520 Psychosomatic nonsense. 0.96

00:48:11.740 Oh, okay.

00:48:13.320 Okay, so apparently they did

00:48:14.560 a number of investigations.

00:48:16.040 All the investigations came

00:48:17.240 back saying that it was

00:48:18.040 psychosomatic, but some

00:48:19.460 people still believe it's

00:48:20.460 real, as, you know, anyone

00:48:21.820 would with something

00:48:22.500 psychosomatic.

00:48:23.920 Well...

00:48:24.480 But not that we don't have

00:48:25.780 microwave weapons and the

00:48:26.780 Russians don't have microwave 1.00

00:48:27.620 weapons that could F with a

00:48:28.960 person.

00:48:29.280 It's just that this was not

00:48:31.060 an instance of them being

00:48:31.840 deployed.

00:48:32.620 And I'm all for...

00:48:33.580 I actually don't mind that

00:48:34.820 they spent this money, and

00:48:35.680 I'll tell you why.

00:48:36.500 What?

00:48:36.940 What?

00:48:37.340 No.

00:48:38.040 Malcolm.

00:48:38.880 Because we need to know

00:48:41.060 that this stuff doesn't

00:48:41.800 work, okay?

00:48:42.840 Okay.

00:48:43.160 We ran the stuff.

00:48:45.220 Never once was there a

00:48:46.880 single thing of utility that

00:48:48.640 came out of it.

00:48:49.420 People can be like, oh, what

00:48:50.300 about this individual thing?

00:48:51.540 What about this individual

00:48:52.340 thing?

00:48:52.760 The core reports on it

00:48:54.720 produced by people who

00:48:55.580 weren't this one general

00:48:56.620 say there was nothing in the

00:48:58.580 program we were able to do.

00:48:59.260 So, only the true believers 1.00

00:49:02.220 found this stuff.

00:49:03.600 And you could be like, oh,

00:49:04.240 well, like, bad vibes or

00:49:05.720 messing it up or something.

00:49:07.240 Well, it had all of the best

00:49:08.520 vibes, okay?

00:49:09.620 Right.

00:49:09.900 And all the true believers,

00:49:11.240 it wasn't even like, oh,

00:49:12.140 well, it's because their lack

00:49:13.460 of faith caused the...

00:49:16.480 whatever to not work.

00:49:18.900 Yeah.

00:49:19.380 And it still wasn't able to

00:49:21.120 produce anything that anyone

00:49:22.520 else could use.

00:49:23.600 Yeah.

00:49:23.840 If it really worked, the

00:49:25.520 military would have kept it.

00:49:27.200 These people wouldn't be on

00:49:28.320 talk shows today, okay?

00:49:29.900 They would be...

00:49:30.300 Yeah.

00:49:30.400 Yeah.

00:49:30.900 I'm not denying that the

00:49:31.820 government might cover it up

00:49:33.180 and pretend it failed, but I

00:49:34.820 am saying that everybody who

00:49:36.280 let it wouldn't have, like,

00:49:38.360 this guy did, the core guy who

00:49:40.240 funded all of it, had to resign

00:49:41.880 in disgrace.

00:49:43.380 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:49:44.540 And also, I don't...

00:49:47.840 I don't imagine we would have

00:49:49.720 developed military technologies

00:49:51.400 that are now used to do much

00:49:52.660 of the same things, like see

00:49:55.240 what's going on within

00:49:55.980 buildings, monitor things

00:49:57.920 remotely, et cetera, had we had

00:49:59.680 already such a strong and

00:50:00.900 robust solution for them.

00:50:03.060 So, yeah, if we'd figured out

00:50:05.600 a way in the 80s to consistently

00:50:07.140 do these things, we wouldn't

00:50:08.560 have all these other very

00:50:10.180 expensive capabilities.

00:50:11.620 That's a really strong point,

00:50:13.020 actually.

00:50:13.240 There wouldn't be...

00:50:14.380 Like, if the government

00:50:15.120 secretly had this capability,

00:50:17.040 they wouldn't have concurrently

00:50:18.900 invested in something that

00:50:20.460 duplicates the capability.

00:50:21.880 Very expensively.

00:50:23.220 Yeah.

00:50:23.340 Very expensively.

00:50:24.280 Our spy satellite network.

00:50:25.720 So, I think we have pretty

00:50:27.360 concrete evidence that this

00:50:29.000 stuff didn't work.

00:50:30.600 And with this stuff not

00:50:32.300 working, that unfortunately

00:50:33.940 blows up one of the core

00:50:36.120 arguments people have for

00:50:38.120 psychic stuff.

00:50:39.600 Okay, so it's useful.

00:50:40.720 Oh, you've given me a silver

00:50:41.920 lining here, because I was

00:50:42.960 getting a little depressed.

00:50:44.840 Well, no, I mean, it gives

00:50:45.720 us more evidence that

00:50:46.700 psychic stuff probably isn't

00:50:48.200 real, that there is not...

00:50:49.580 You cannot make psychic

00:50:50.660 weapons.

00:50:51.240 You cannot...

00:50:52.040 I'm super okay with that.

00:50:53.540 Yes.

00:50:54.260 And, yeah, it's just, like,

00:50:56.700 again, with this general.

00:50:57.840 Like, everybody hears, oh,

00:51:00.520 they found this plane this one

00:51:02.300 time in, like, a rare location.

00:51:04.000 And I was like, the guy

00:51:05.160 managing that report severely

00:51:06.840 injured his nose from running

00:51:08.280 into a wall multiple times

00:51:09.860 trying to run through it

00:51:11.840 with the power of positive

00:51:13.300 God.

00:51:13.700 Points for really being a

00:51:15.360 believer, though.

00:51:16.360 Right.

00:51:16.620 The point I'm making is

00:51:17.980 these reports weren't

00:51:19.500 exactly being treated with

00:51:20.780 a lot of scrutiny at the

00:51:22.020 time.

00:51:22.520 And the people who were

00:51:24.300 involved, like some of the

00:51:25.340 farceers, were even

00:51:26.900 professional, like,

00:51:28.620 illusionists, i.e.

00:51:29.980 fake magicians, before going

00:51:32.020 into this.

00:51:32.940 Now, they'll say, oh, well,

00:51:33.860 the stuff I did for them

00:51:34.780 wasn't fake.

00:51:35.640 Well, you were getting a

00:51:36.420 paycheck, buddy.

00:51:37.600 I have seen the stuff that

00:51:38.660 magicians pull off, and it

00:51:39.740 looks pretty good.

00:51:40.500 They just can't do it when

00:51:41.600 they're against a

00:51:42.600 anti-paranormalist, i.e.

00:51:44.740 the people who are meant to

00:51:45.600 detect this stuff.

00:51:46.280 And I'll note that it was

00:51:46.900 the CIA stuff.

00:51:47.600 They never put in these

00:51:49.480 anti-people to attempt to

00:51:51.640 check or vet when they said,

00:51:53.520 oh, this thing actually works,

00:51:54.940 which would have been an

00:51:55.800 easy thing to do.

00:51:56.800 You know, that could have

00:51:57.660 convinced people.

00:51:58.460 That could have gotten other

00:51:59.080 people in the military on

00:51:59.840 board.

00:52:00.080 But I think the people who

00:52:01.920 are involved in this all

00:52:02.880 know in the back of their

00:52:03.520 heads that none of this

00:52:04.300 is real.

00:52:05.360 And I also see this when

00:52:06.300 it comes to religious types

00:52:08.220 who are like, well, you

00:52:09.740 know, some people are so 0.93

00:52:12.200 pious that they can murder

00:52:14.980 someone with a thought.

00:52:17.320 And I'm like, okay, or

00:52:19.240 tell the future, see the

00:52:20.420 future.

00:52:20.660 And I'm like, okay, maybe

00:52:22.300 that was true in the past.

00:52:23.200 But if that was true today,

00:52:25.240 you know, why aren't these

00:52:26.900 people super rich?

00:52:27.800 Like, why aren't these

00:52:28.360 people running their

00:52:29.700 religions, right?

00:52:30.480 Like, and then showing us

00:52:31.960 that they can do this stuff.

00:52:33.080 Presumably that would help

00:52:33.920 people's faith.

00:52:34.540 And then they might be

00:52:35.360 like, well, you can't do

00:52:36.620 this stuff for personal

00:52:37.460 gain.

00:52:38.120 And I'm like, well, if

00:52:39.280 you're a Jewish mystic, I'm

00:52:40.280 sorry, buddy, but your

00:52:41.100 tradition doesn't say that.

00:52:42.620 If you look at Eli

00:52:43.540 Ben, what is it?

00:52:46.060 Rabbi Eliezer from the

00:52:47.780 snake oil oven story, the

00:52:49.540 snake oven story, he ended 0.96

00:52:51.380 up killing the rabbis he 1.00

00:52:53.880 was mad at for no reason 0.99

00:52:56.060 other than being right.

00:52:57.180 And God admitted that they

00:52:58.300 were right.

00:52:58.800 And he was so mad that God

00:53:00.180 admitted he was right that

00:53:01.540 he, they had somebody

00:53:02.480 follow him around so he

00:53:03.700 wouldn't pray that they

00:53:04.340 died.

00:53:05.000 And then one day the

00:53:05.920 person like was pulled

00:53:06.860 away from him or something.

00:53:07.860 And so then he immediately

00:53:08.740 got to them, starts praying 0.99

00:53:09.660 that they die and they all 1.00

00:53:10.800 die because he is a 1.00

00:53:12.840 psychopath. 1.00

00:53:13.760 But, but, but clearly, you 0.59

00:53:15.180 know, at least the Jews 0.96

00:53:15.860 believe you can do this in a

00:53:16.860 self-interested manner and it

00:53:18.340 works.

00:53:18.760 So what I'm saying is if

00:53:19.820 these powers ever existed,

00:53:21.640 they certainly don't exist in

00:53:22.920 populations today.

00:53:23.700 Now I point out that I do

00:53:25.660 not believe they existed.

00:53:26.940 Other people would be like,

00:53:27.460 but you believe the Bible.

00:53:28.200 And I believe, I believe

00:53:29.600 that at the time these

00:53:30.740 stories were written, people

00:53:31.580 believe this stuff, but I

00:53:33.640 don't, I don't think that

00:53:34.540 that's what it actually was.

00:53:36.640 You know, one of the

00:53:37.360 stories I always note from

00:53:38.200 the Bible is, and I think

00:53:39.680 that it's, it's a

00:53:40.380 miraculous that this is

00:53:42.740 preserved for us is Simon

00:53:44.220 Magus, you know, he was

00:53:46.800 in life, we think that there

00:53:47.900 were actually like multiple

00:53:49.140 magicians, Christian and

00:53:50.720 non-Christian people who had

00:53:51.760 like real magical power

00:53:52.880 walking around Israel at that

00:53:54.720 time.

00:53:55.060 Okay.

00:53:55.220 Maybe you can believe that,

00:53:56.600 but you can believe, okay,

00:53:57.440 there were a bunch of

00:53:58.140 fraudsters, i.e.

00:54:00.000 magicians, which today we

00:54:01.120 would call like paranormal

00:54:02.100 is, I, what would we call

00:54:03.480 them today?

00:54:04.440 Illusionists who, who 0.64

00:54:05.920 walked around and these

00:54:07.420 people are what people

00:54:08.200 would call Magus, right?

00:54:09.400 Like magicians of the time

00:54:10.500 period.

00:54:11.040 Right.

00:54:11.620 We can be like, what

00:54:12.180 happened if a, if a

00:54:13.420 professional illusionist

00:54:14.580 saw Jesus's magic.

00:54:17.740 And we know from the story

00:54:18.880 of Simon and Magus, he saw

00:54:20.540 it and he goes, can I buy

00:54:21.620 that trick?

00:54:22.760 And Jesus is really mad

00:54:23.640 about this.

00:54:24.040 Uh, but we know that a

00:54:26.300 professional illusionist of

00:54:27.460 that time period when he saw

00:54:28.900 what Jesus was doing, thought

00:54:30.620 it was an illusion.

00:54:32.480 And no, I don't see this as a

00:54:33.760 bad thing at all.

00:54:34.420 Like, I don't see this as

00:54:35.120 disconfirming that Christ was

00:54:36.560 the Messiah or anything like

00:54:37.560 that.

00:54:37.800 You can go into our track

00:54:38.560 series, but I don't think it

00:54:40.040 was genuine magic.

00:54:41.620 And I think that the Bible

00:54:42.420 records it for us so that we

00:54:44.300 won't think, I mean, like

00:54:45.780 obviously the Bible is meant

00:54:46.640 to be interpreted by different

00:54:47.460 people during different time

00:54:48.240 periods.

00:54:48.480 Somebody during that time

00:54:49.160 period was supposed to

00:54:49.840 believe that it was magic.

00:54:50.600 Somebody during the medieval

00:54:51.220 period was supposed to

00:54:51.940 believe it was magic.

00:54:52.820 Somebody of today is

00:54:53.480 supposed to be able to

00:54:54.040 recognize what did a

00:54:55.700 professional illusionist

00:54:56.640 think when he saw this?

00:54:57.560 Oh, that is miraculously

00:54:59.060 recorded for us.

00:55:00.260 Yes.

00:55:01.280 Yeah, that's sort of my

00:55:02.380 thought on all of this.

00:55:03.380 I'm, I'm rabidly anti-mystic

00:55:05.480 as a lot of people know, but

00:55:06.540 I also think just reality is

00:55:07.900 rabidly anti-mystic and

00:55:09.460 that what happens when you go

00:55:10.720 down the mystical pathway is

00:55:12.760 truth becomes a subjective

00:55:14.600 internal experience.

00:55:15.740 And so when two people

00:55:16.820 disagree about something

00:55:18.520 because they gain their

00:55:19.740 information about reality

00:55:20.860 through, you know, whether

00:55:21.900 it's corrupted mental

00:55:22.660 states, like sitting in

00:55:24.080 odd poses or twirling or

00:55:25.480 taking drugs, they're just

00:55:26.880 like, well, my subjective

00:55:27.780 interpretation is right.

00:55:28.700 And the other person is

00:55:29.140 like, my subjective

00:55:29.820 interpretation is right.

00:55:30.920 And whoever gets more

00:55:31.720 followers or is more

00:55:32.880 popular, that's who's

00:55:34.260 subjective interpretation is

00:55:35.360 right.

00:55:35.580 And now they get to dictate

00:55:36.400 what's true and what's not

00:55:37.220 true.

00:55:37.760 And this is what you keep

00:55:38.900 seeing with cults and stuff

00:55:39.920 like leverage, et cetera.

00:55:41.680 Anyway, any final thoughts

00:55:43.920 from home?

00:55:44.720 No, this was just equal parts

00:55:46.120 enlightening and horrifying, 1.00

00:55:47.360 but yeah, mysticism sucks 1.00

00:55:49.460 for the worst. 0.99

00:55:52.440 Yeah.

00:55:52.980 Yeah.

00:55:53.200 If I get over it.

00:55:54.320 He's going to be like, oh,

00:55:55.300 it doesn't matter that there

00:55:56.340 were all these Scientologists

00:55:57.300 involved or that the guy

00:55:58.360 running it kept running into

00:55:59.340 walls or that there's this

00:56:02.180 one or two instances of it

00:56:04.080 which seem really suspiciously

00:56:05.760 hard to disprove.

00:56:08.460 Mysticists, mystics got a 1.00

00:56:10.500 mystic.

00:56:11.180 Like they're going to, they're

00:56:12.360 going to do it regardless

00:56:14.160 because they can't be reasoned

00:56:15.480 with that's the problem with

00:56:16.900 mysticism.

00:56:17.640 Like you're, you're trying to

00:56:19.700 provide a logic based

00:56:21.640 argument against mysticism

00:56:23.400 when mystics don't believe

00:56:25.360 in logic.

00:56:27.620 Yeah.

00:56:28.140 So it's not like this is going

00:56:29.540 to change anything there,

00:56:30.340 but it's still interesting.

00:56:31.500 I mean, Rulliard believes in

00:56:32.540 logic.

00:56:33.200 The problem is that he believes

00:56:34.900 that he can get information

00:56:36.260 from states other than the

00:56:37.720 logical empirical observation

00:56:39.140 of reality through repeated

00:56:41.060 testing, right?

00:56:42.140 You know, and, and the, the

00:56:43.820 fact, and one of the reasons

00:56:45.200 is I warn people against this

00:56:46.180 and I made this warning

00:56:46.920 before Ruby yard went on the

00:56:48.480 whole Thor thing.

00:56:49.400 It was like, if you try to

00:56:51.200 chase down these states, if

00:56:52.720 you try to engage with the

00:56:54.180 mystic, let's suppose the

00:56:55.900 mystical world does exist.

00:56:57.000 Even if it does exist, it

00:56:58.060 only seems to scramble

00:56:59.000 people's brain.

00:57:00.280 Everyone or almost everyone

00:57:01.620 there's a couple of people

00:57:02.180 I know who have to engage

00:57:03.220 with mysticism and still are

00:57:04.300 able to rationally think.

00:57:05.700 But even those people are

00:57:06.640 like, they, they have said

00:57:08.260 things to us along the lines

00:57:10.420 of this is not something that

00:57:13.280 the normal person can safely

00:57:14.720 engage with.

00:57:15.460 Like they themselves

00:57:16.320 acknowledge this is not for

00:57:17.640 the vast majority.

00:57:19.200 That happened to him.

00:57:19.920 I was like, this type of

00:57:21.360 idea and stuff will scramble

00:57:23.480 your brain if you keep doing

00:57:24.500 it.

00:57:26.160 And my warnings in the

00:57:28.300 episode were proven right.

00:57:29.720 Everyone thought I gloat.

00:57:30.620 I don't gloat about it.

00:57:31.360 You know, like he's a young

00:57:32.860 person.

00:57:33.560 He, he, I think reacted to

00:57:35.620 the incident really

00:57:36.780 professionally and well through

00:57:38.640 just sort of deleting it,

00:57:40.000 moving on, you know, a kid's

00:57:42.080 allowed to try a mystical,

00:57:43.940 like I don't, I can be here

00:57:47.300 and warn somebody and say

00:57:48.560 trying to explore the mystical

00:57:50.420 realm will lead to long-term

00:57:52.480 negative consequences for you

00:57:53.840 or lead to short-term negative

00:57:55.040 consequences for you.

00:57:55.960 But somebody can then say,

00:57:57.340 yeah, but I still want that

00:57:59.180 information.

00:57:59.680 I still want to explore that.

00:58:01.540 Right.

00:58:01.720 Like maybe you're wrong.

00:58:03.300 Maybe I'm the one who gets 0.99

00:58:04.620 through, right?

00:58:05.160 Like this is how we come up

00:58:06.200 with new discoveries and

00:58:07.000 everything.

00:58:07.820 You know, I shouldn't, I

00:58:08.840 don't like, I wouldn't ever

00:58:10.760 feel good about somebody

00:58:13.460 attempting to explore the,

00:58:16.040 the reaches of what we're

00:58:17.940 allowed to talk about in

00:58:18.920 polite society.

00:58:19.680 And this stuff is, I don't

00:58:21.660 think that that, that, that

00:58:23.060 attempting that and having

00:58:24.720 that backfire is something

00:58:25.900 that, that we should take

00:58:28.300 advantage of as a community

00:58:29.520 at all, because.

00:58:29.980 Yeah, allow people to take

00:58:31.240 risks.

00:58:31.880 We won't advance if you

00:58:33.040 don't.

00:58:33.660 So that's, yeah, it's fine.

00:58:36.860 Oh, thanks for this, Malcolm.

00:58:38.700 I love you so much.

00:58:39.740 Love you too.

00:58:43.680 Twitter or X post on the AI

00:58:46.540 video.

00:58:48.360 And someone was like, you're

00:58:49.660 wrong on this one.

00:58:51.380 Unfortunately, it's a lossy

00:58:52.760 compression algorithm with a

00:58:54.100 novel retrieval method.

00:58:55.360 Saying AI is smart is the same

00:58:57.160 as saying a library is smart.

00:58:59.420 And I'm, tell me if this is

00:59:01.120 too snarky or wrong as a

00:59:02.320 response, but I wrote a lossy

00:59:04.120 compression algorithm with a

00:59:05.380 novel retrieval method.

00:59:06.780 Oh, like a human mind.

00:59:08.040 Not much for us, have they?

00:59:11.600 Yeah, no, that's accurate.

00:59:12.940 That's not too snarky at all.

00:59:14.180 That is, I, I, people think

00:59:16.420 the mind runs on magic and

00:59:18.260 fairy dust instead of on an

00:59:21.000 actual, like, neural

00:59:22.120 mechanism.

00:59:22.920 And all of the complaints I

00:59:24.320 see about AI just

00:59:25.480 fundamentally misunderstand how

00:59:27.080 the human brain works.

00:59:28.060 Yeah, I mean, we're like any

00:59:29.520 dig at the AI, like intelligence

00:59:31.780 of AI is a dig at our

00:59:33.180 intelligence.

00:59:34.120 So I just find it really

00:59:35.000 funny.

00:59:35.920 Study after study after study.

00:59:37.320 Oh, it looks like the human

00:59:38.560 brain works on a token

00:59:40.160 predictor model.

00:59:41.360 AI is helping us so much in

00:59:42.920 understanding how we learn and

00:59:44.440 think.

00:59:45.020 And people are like, wow,

00:59:46.700 that's a coincidence that when

00:59:48.400 we applied the AI models to the

00:59:50.700 human mind, they ended up

00:59:52.760 matching exactly where, like,

00:59:54.640 we show surprise tokens and stuff

00:59:56.980 like that.

00:59:58.160 Oh, well.

00:59:59.160 Yeah.

00:59:59.440 How were the comments generally

01:00:00.880 where people like, because I

01:00:02.160 know people get annoyed at our

01:00:03.840 pro AI stuff.

01:00:05.720 I haven't gotten to them yet.

01:00:07.300 So seeing if I could outline

01:00:08.540 an episode on this thing that

01:00:10.080 really bothers me on social

01:00:12.040 media, the inspirational quotes

01:00:14.180 thing, like the brain rot

01:00:15.280 inspirational quotes.

01:00:16.400 Yeah, like, why are people

01:00:17.500 doing that?

01:00:18.020 Yeah, but also, like, I'm

01:00:18.960 looking at the history of it.

01:00:20.000 I mean, because obviously people

01:00:21.000 have used inspirational quotes

01:00:22.240 for a long time.

01:00:23.180 I mean, it used to be Confucius

01:00:24.420 and it used to be like lines

01:00:25.860 from the Bible.

01:00:26.380 And then it was, you know, it

01:00:27.820 was, it was Ford.

01:00:28.660 It was Coco Chanel.

01:00:29.880 And, and, and I'm, it's very

01:00:32.600 clear that originally they were,

01:00:34.440 they were dispersed as a form

01:00:35.900 of, of creating cultural

01:00:38.400 conformity and, and inseminating

01:00:40.400 people with values that were

01:00:41.960 seen as beneficial to society.

01:00:44.600 Now I feel like they've evolved

01:00:46.100 into something very different,

01:00:47.460 very like memetically

01:00:49.120 virusy.

01:00:50.000 I'm finding these Facebook pages.

01:00:51.740 And so I fell down this rabbit

01:00:53.120 hole.

01:00:53.740 Meanwhile, playing in the side,

01:00:55.480 I fell down this separate rabbit

01:00:57.120 hole with return to land that 0.92

01:00:58.600 like white nationalist ish

01:01:00.480 settlement.

01:01:01.680 Cause I found their YouTube

01:01:02.560 channels and I was like, I want

01:01:03.480 to watch their videos and see

01:01:04.720 what they have to say.

01:01:06.020 And what's so funny is like one,

01:01:09.260 they're super explicit.

01:01:10.240 This, this is for white people. 0.97

01:01:11.460 Like, they're like, we just, we

01:01:12.960 want to do this for white people, 0.95

01:01:14.040 but like they come across as both

01:01:18.960 so sad and so earnest that I

01:01:22.320 can't feel anything but bad for

01:01:24.280 them.

01:01:25.080 Like, like they're, they're

01:01:27.340 showing, you know, like the,

01:01:28.620 the settlements that people are

01:01:29.700 starting to build on this

01:01:31.000 development that they're building

01:01:31.980 in the Ozarks in Arkansas.

01:01:33.920 And, you know, like there's one

01:01:35.840 guy who's just living in a tent.

01:01:37.600 He's like, all I've got here is my

01:01:39.160 tent and my pull-up bar.

01:01:40.300 And like, literally it's like a

01:01:41.560 branch that he like nailed between

01:01:43.700 two trees so he can do pull-ups

01:01:45.380 because he's very masculine.

01:01:47.400 And like, these are tough lives.

01:01:50.620 And I'm just like, leave the 0.97

01:01:52.280 white nationalists alone. 0.97

01:01:53.540 Like they're, they're not living

01:01:54.940 your aspirational life.

01:01:56.360 Like really like stay in your

01:01:58.140 city, live with the urban model.

01:02:00.380 Like you are happy there.

01:02:01.580 You, you want them to go away.

01:02:03.680 Let them live in their ghetto. 0.99

01:02:06.240 Like leave them alone.

01:02:08.220 These are, and they're just,

01:02:09.660 they're just so earnest.

01:02:11.900 Like there's not an ounce of

01:02:13.620 malice as far as I can detect.

01:02:15.320 And I am a little autistic, but

01:02:16.820 as far as I can detect, there's

01:02:18.340 not an ounce of malice toward any

01:02:20.540 other race.

01:02:21.360 It is simply this like sad,

01:02:23.380 wistful desire to return to some

01:02:25.040 form of like Western

01:02:26.700 civilizational greatness that

01:02:28.560 isn't really real, but they

01:02:30.060 believe to be real.

01:02:30.860 Kind of like Santa Claus.

01:02:32.300 It's kind of like a bunch of

01:02:33.480 people building a settlement in

01:02:34.700 the North pole being like,

01:02:35.920 it's like build it.

01:02:36.820 And they, and the elves used to

01:02:38.400 be here.

01:02:39.000 We're just going to have to do

01:02:40.980 what it takes.

01:02:42.240 Santa's not going to come back

01:02:43.500 unless we show that we believe

01:02:44.980 in him.

01:02:45.400 And I'm just like, okay, go ahead.

01:02:48.280 Stay warm guys.

01:02:49.420 Like maybe I'll go on your Amazon

01:02:51.420 wishlist and buy you a jacket

01:02:53.020 because I just hope you're okay.

01:02:55.760 Like I feel bad.

01:02:56.960 So I fell down those rabbit holes.

01:02:58.200 And so I don't, I know I'm going

01:02:59.360 to look at comments later, but

01:03:00.880 I'm excited to see how it does.

01:03:02.960 Yeah.

01:03:03.360 Cause I, I, I suspect a lot of

01:03:04.980 people are going to be very mad.

01:03:05.920 We're like, nope, AI is not a

01:03:07.380 bubble in the traditional thing.

01:03:08.440 Hey, we'll see guys.

01:03:11.080 Well, you just love telling us

01:03:12.720 how wrong we are.

01:03:14.020 No, but hold on.

01:03:14.960 We do, we do say it's an

01:03:16.700 investment bubble, but it's not

01:03:17.780 a bubble in terms of its use.

01:03:19.240 Yeah.

01:03:19.620 Yeah.

01:03:19.880 We're not, we're not saying

01:03:21.220 buy AI stonks and you can't

01:03:24.140 even really like all the ones

01:03:25.340 that are good to buy are like

01:03:28.920 private investments.

01:03:30.060 Like the best you can do to

01:03:31.500 invest in this space is literally

01:03:32.760 to build a career around it and

01:03:35.940 to start a startup that rides

01:03:37.960 this wave, but anyway.

01:03:39.540 Twosie twosie

01:03:47.480 Twosie

01:03:57.520 Twosie

01:04:00.560 Twosie

01:04:09.540 Tickle tickle tickle. 1.00

01:04:20.080 You did it.

01:04:22.860 Oh no a brutal attack.

01:04:25.900 I got a double tickle attack right here.

01:04:31.060 Double tickles. 0.97

01:04:35.600 Oh, it's so scary! You're going to fall! You're going to fall!

01:04:40.600 Oh, no!

01:04:44.600 Oh, you're all the way upside down now!

01:04:50.600 What's going to happen now?

Based Camp - August 29, 2025

US Gov & Scientists Prove the Supernatural？ (The Telepathy Tapes & Project Stargate)

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