Based Camp - Viral Trend of Taking Tylenol While Pregnant： They Hate Us More Than They Love Their Children

00:00:00.000 hello simone i am excited to be here with you today today we are going to be going over something

00:00:07.320 that i have found really fascinating which is both rfk saying that you know tylenol and

00:00:14.320 pseudaminophen could lead to autism or other birth complications and then more interesting

00:00:20.560 the left's reaction to it for me where there have been viral trends of women just taking lots of 1.00

00:00:29.000 tylenol i can't even like tiktok and there was one report of a death from this and we'll get over

00:00:35.000 whether that report is likely accurate um not i think it's plausibly accurate i think over 50 chance

00:00:40.900 that it's accurate and i mean a lot of people overdose on tylenol all the time anyway so yeah

00:00:46.420 yeah well you don't know when you're trying to get like tiktok points or something like that

00:00:50.620 i mean these other women who are doing this and there have been thousands of videos of women doing 1.00

00:00:55.540 this that are getting millions of views right i hope they're just drinking something fake out of

00:01:00.180 tylenol bottles or or taking fake pills well they're yeah i hope they're taking you know

00:01:06.060 i got a call very frantic call at four o'clock in the morning from a husband whose wife is now dying

00:01:13.780 of liver failure on a ventilator in an icu um because she was trying to prove that tylenol doesn't cause

00:01:22.100 autism because of um what trump said on the news mind you that's a harvard study now whether or not

00:01:28.880 you believe the harvard study or not is not not the issue here the issue is that she's somewhere

00:01:34.040 between 23 to 25 weeks and she overdosed on tylenol and she's going to die she's not going to come off

00:01:41.300 that ventilator people are are just taking massive amounts of tylenol to prove prove trump wrong

00:01:47.140 i mean weren't these the same people who put harvard and fauci and the pillars of science

00:01:54.660 on a pedestal and now they refuse to believe

00:01:57.880 28 weeks pregnant you know what i'm going to take

00:02:03.380 some Tylenol let's eat a minute then it's going to work like a charm and my baby won't have autism 1.00

00:02:11.620 how dumb are they yeah that you hate a president enough to risk the health of your unborn child 0.99

00:02:27.540 and where the hell are the men who made him pregnant because i'm telling you i would have an issue this is 1.00

00:02:34.020 not new the warning not to take acetaminophen during pregnancy is not new it is well and we'll get into

00:02:40.660 this for people who don't know tylenol is by like let's ignore the gfk let's ignore the new studies

00:02:47.700 that we're going to go into um it was considered to be the safest pain reliever when you're pregnant 0.54

00:02:54.020 but not safe for pregnancy it was the safest option when you needed an option yeah and to be 0.99

00:03:00.900 clear in multiple pregnancies we have used tylenol and that is because you have to balance risks so if

00:03:07.460 you have a really high fever and you have for example a first trimester baby you you risk giving

00:03:13.780 that baby neural tube defects if they are exposed to a high fever so for the baby we just had who's

00:03:20.900 now in the nicu and was otherwise very healthy he basically sustained an injury while being born

00:03:25.140 so nothing inherently wrong with him i had a very high fever moments after the embryo was transferred and

00:03:32.260 then like one week after when neural tube development began i was definitely on tylenol

00:03:37.860 like yeah and everyone was like aware of is is cost benefit trade off with this stuff because we're

00:03:43.540 also going to go over in this even if rfk is right about everything he's saying what is the actual risk

00:03:50.740 of one of the complications from tylenol and it's still fairly low uh it's like a one to two percent

00:03:57.620 increase in in probability and this is base probability not you know if the original risk

00:04:03.300 was one percent and now the new risk is two percent you could say well it increased by a hundred percent

00:04:09.220 or it increased by one doubled your risk which sounds so scary yeah yeah and and but the sorry the

00:04:15.860 point i was going to make here is it's as if these people hate like our political side more than they

00:04:24.020 love their children that they would just decide to risk their and when i say risks their child

00:04:29.780 tylenol itself said in tweets in multiple tweets that will go over do not take this when you're

00:04:37.380 pregnant it has not been approved for use in pregnancy and it may have negative consequences

00:04:43.700 um when people asked if they could so like this is mainstream the company itself saying don't do this

00:04:50.900 everyone should know that you can't just take infinite tylenol but i think these people are

00:04:55.300 just like my side says trump is bad for saying x therefore i don't need to like like do they not even

00:05:04.340 research did they not even google before they just start taking a ton of tylenol when they're visibly

00:05:08.340 pregnant i mean it reminds me of in in scotland i heard one of the report from my friend of a girl

00:05:17.700 who he knew from like inner city glasgow because that's where he grew up where she was smoking when 1.00

00:05:21.940 she was pregnant and they were like why are you doing that and and she said she heard it made the 1.00

00:05:26.500 the baby smaller so that giving births would hurt less so there are astonishingly stupid people out 1.00

00:05:34.020 there well and there's the other example of i someone on on social media was complaining that they 1.00

00:05:40.020 ordered a grocery delivery that included tylenol and the person who delivered the groceries

00:05:47.780 substituted it for acetaminophen and was like didn't you know that trump said that tylenol isn't

00:05:52.820 safe and they're the same thing they're the same thing yeah i know and simone has been bemoaning the

00:05:58.900 entire time this controversy has been going how upsetting it must be to be at tylenol just because

00:06:04.100 trump cannot pronounce acetaminophen yeah we know that's why he said tylenol because there's this

00:06:08.580 speech apparently we're like you described it you described it to me this morning oh my it's the no you

00:06:13.220 have to i'll try to find a clip of the press conference yeah where trump you know makes this

00:06:16.900 big announcement about rfk's report on acetaminophen and he's like oh man i'm gonna mispronounce this

00:06:24.020 and he tries to say the word acetaminophen and butchers it multiple times and and kennedy rfk

00:06:29.140 is just standing right behind him the whole time with this pain look on his face and you know his voice

00:06:33.460 is super screwed up so he's saying acetaminophen acetaminophen and he's like obviously trump is

00:06:39.380 not hearing it you can see his his lips moving and he's trying to tell trump obviously trump didn't

00:06:44.740 listen to the white stripes and did they talk about acetaminophen yeah there's this that you know you

00:06:51.140 have no taste in medicine acetaminophen first effective immediately the fda will be notifying

00:06:57.220 physicians at the use of acetaminophen well let's see how we say that acetaminophen acetaminophen is

00:07:08.740 that okay which is basically commonly known as tylenol during pregnancy can be associated

00:07:18.660 with a very increased risk of autism so taking tylenol is not good all right i'll say it it's not good

00:07:32.820 for this reason they are strongly recommending that women limit tylenol use during pregnancy unless

00:07:39.140 medically necessary that's for instance in cases of high fever well so the

00:07:46.980 the the great thing here about all of this and and i will know when people are like like what are

00:07:51.460 your guys deeper thoughts before i get into this simone you believe that there actually aren't

00:07:56.980 particularly like you think that rfk messed up the studies that he was citing i think that maybe you

00:08:01.940 were told this by a progressive journalist without actually looking into the volume of studies that he

00:08:06.260 was citing okay so i i think he is likely accurate that there there probably is some complication there

00:08:12.260 really my understanding is that this is one of those issues where he there there wasn't enough

00:08:17.540 correction used like when you ultimately correct for a bunch of factors that you should be correcting

00:08:22.820 for in in a study which is hard it's a very nuanced thing right but that's you sort of have the

00:08:27.460 impression that this was like one study of like 20 000 people yeah when it was like eight studies of

00:08:33.140 like 80 000 to 200 000 people each done by different teams that all came to around the same result

00:08:39.700 so i i want to be clear here you had the impression like it was like one study that made a mistake and

00:08:44.340 i think one study might have made a mistake i mean the left has to react reactively to everything like

00:08:48.740 this um i think the wider problem around autism is simone's diagnosis autism our kids are diagnosed

00:08:53.780 with autism it's genetic also it's a bunch of different things my mom had a view of autism that

00:08:59.380 is not dissimilar from rfk she's like you know she won't be able to love you or the children

00:09:03.940 and when one of our kids was diagnosed with autism she was like well you know that's it for his life

00:09:08.580 you know at rfk i'll say all these things like you know when people with who have autism their lives

00:09:13.220 are ruined meanwhile you know elon has been diagnosed with autism because he's diagnosed

00:09:16.580 with asperger's and asperger's is no longer a separate diagnosis so he would be technically

00:09:20.340 autistic and so we need to i think realistically as a society break apart autism into multiple diagnoses

00:09:28.100 again it is really really stupid to have it listed as one diagnosis when one person is like elon or my 0.89

00:09:35.220 wife and then another person uh can't use the bathroom on their own like why are we calling 1.00

00:09:40.580 these the same thing it's it's it's not even like degrees and the reason why the wokies and the woke

00:09:47.700 departments cannot do this is because then all of the people who are using this to try to claim like

00:09:55.620 disability points and which which they need for their social games right like anyone could just

00:10:00.740 self-id as autistic which they do you know the internet right and then the people who actually

00:10:06.100 have challenges because of this they they point to them as if they're in the same kind of disabled camp

00:10:12.420 as the actually severely disabled person and the mere fact and i actually think it's really sick and 0.73

00:10:18.420 psychotic that people do this because you will see like far lefties online like literally be like

00:10:26.100 how dare rfk say he wants to reduce autism rates this is a genocide against my people this is my

00:10:32.260 people being erased and and and so no research should be done into reducing autism when i'm like

00:10:39.460 you understand that like this is a diagnosis that's also being applied to people who can barely function

00:10:45.620 in society yeah who will forever be in diapers and need full-time round-the-clock care who will never

00:10:51.460 be able to get a job will never be able to do anything independently or huge risks to themselves

00:10:56.420 and yeah like how how dare you say that those people that we shouldn't try to reduce whatever

00:11:02.260 is causing that just so you can claim your disability points and that rfk is coming to genocide you 0.91

00:11:09.300 yeah and i think that there there are some conditions that are diagnosed as autism that are downstream of

00:11:13.380 just other things like there's this new medication that a lot of people are talking about

00:11:17.140 which is meant to treat i think maybe like a thyroid imbalance or something like that that really does

00:11:25.780 seem to effectively treat it at least in in the research it's been focused on children but adults

00:11:31.140 have also reported big changes in like their language processing ability and that's getting grouped in

00:11:36.020 and and those people want this treatment because it makes them like they they can be more functional

00:11:41.700 as people and so there's all these things that like sensitivities to stuff imbalances to things

00:11:47.700 all the and it's somebody who is autistic wife autistic kids right if you use the fact that you are 0.66

00:11:56.420 autistic to try to prevent other people especially if you are not low-functioning autistic to try to 0.97

00:12:03.220 prevent other people for coming up with cures or preventing that you are an actual psychopath

00:12:09.140 well people should have the right to try to avoid or lean into certain traits that they want you

00:12:15.460 know you shouldn't force people right right right that's not what i'm talking about here when you

00:12:19.140 see somebody online being like how dare they attempt to reduce this how dare they work on cures for this

00:12:26.180 when you are not actually dealing with the negative consequences that they are trying oh yeah yeah yeah

00:12:31.140 you are basically sacrificing those people and those future people for your chance to sort of

00:12:37.700 emotionally masturbate online and one our audience needs to call these people out when they do this

00:12:43.300 like people need to stop feeling okay doing this yeah people need to stop feeling okay like this is

00:12:48.820 how we got to this place in society is that people would do stuff like this and we just like roll our 0.95

00:12:53.140 eyes and we need to be like you are an actual psychopath that you would throw low functioning autistic 1.00

00:12:59.300 people under the bus like this yeah just so you can feel good about yourself um but anyway i wanted to go 0.98

00:13:05.140 into the woman he's he's back on screen by the way uh maybe nicky cam we just had maximally autistic we

00:13:12.340 we you know did all of the all the right back off screen needed to ensure maximum autism in this one

00:13:19.620 text the autistic that's his middle name the autistic it's actually demyason from the the culture series

00:13:26.340 by ian bigman but anyway the woman who who potentially killed herself where does this report come from

00:13:31.780 yeah what happened well first what did she do she did a video where she did a bunch of tylenol to 1.00

00:13:38.180 try to show that it's not risky at all while she was pregnant no oh oh i told you thousands of women 0.96

00:13:46.900 are doing these videos this is a viral trend then it's not just her she's putting at risk oh that's

00:13:51.780 dude like yeah everyone knows in pregnancy like you can't take anything you can't take anything you can't

00:13:57.460 drink chamomile tea i mean come on these people hate you more than they love their children that's

00:14:02.900 that's just the end of it okay they they they their children they're just having them to extend this

00:14:09.860 life i guess this this this hypothesis of happiness that they are living that clearly isn't giving them

00:14:15.940 what they want so by the way simone i just finished this off let's try to remember to not throw these

00:14:20.820 away and wash them out because i think they'd make really good bonkers for the kids um okay i'll

00:14:27.140 let me wash them out with soap though you don't want them to like yeah they've got a sort of club

00:14:30.420 shape to them i can put them in a break balloon or something yeah they're gonna play with we've been

00:14:35.940 looking for some like good toy swords for our kids and yeah this this would be a great one they're

00:14:40.260 good clubs yeah gotta gotta look for that in the future the the good bonker trying to find some

00:14:46.980 way for them to decorate them or something yeah but anyway it was a video posted by nicole sir tech

00:14:52.660 who is the executive director of american frontline nurses now the reason why a lot of progressives

00:14:58.500 disbelieved it is she was flagged with covid misinformation specifically she was one of the

00:15:04.980 people who said that these shots might be killing some people which we basically now know that some of

00:15:11.220 the early shots were causing the type of blood clot in some individuals basically okay so the story

00:15:18.020 here are behind the scenes information on this is that when the shots were approved they were approved

00:15:23.380 for intramuscular injection only and that that required a special type of trained nurse and so 0.99

00:15:28.660 it would have made it harder for them to be deployed at the rate that they needed to be deployed at

00:15:32.500 and so when they accidentally did go intravenally which i think happens like one of like five percent of

00:15:38.820 the time or like three percent of the time it would form a blood clot which could cause heart heart

00:15:44.020 issues yeah and like when you do an intramuscular shot what you're supposed to do is pull out the

00:15:48.100 plunger a little bit to see if you pull any blood if you do then you need to start that hard to train

00:15:52.420 people they just basically just it just takes a lot and i mean but it's also like more disturbing

00:15:58.500 for the actual recipient so i could see like from an optic standpoint is that she wasn't wrong about

00:16:04.420 this but you know she broke a progressive like mainstream thing and so they're like oh now you

00:16:08.820 can't trust anything she says but anyway she claimed that she received a frantic 4am call from

00:16:14.020 an anonymous husband's who's 23 to 25 week pregnant had overdosed on an entire bottle of tylenol

00:16:19.140 after seeing tump's announcement in tiktok trends surtech said the woman was now on liver failure and a

00:16:24.980 ventilator and there was little chance of survival for her and her baby and people have said well why can't

00:16:30.820 you get a camera crew on this woman if this is real and she is and basically the answer is if

00:16:37.140 you're not retarded is this woman clearly does not like trump right she doesn't want the fact that she 1.00

00:16:45.060 screwed up and likely is going to die and her baby died to be a right-wing talking point very obviously 0.93

00:16:50.900 she isn't going to consent to being on camera about this you could say why wouldn't the hospital consent 0.98

00:16:56.420 to this you think a hospital is going to throw one of its patients under the bus like that

00:17:00.500 like are you out of your mind there if if this is a real thing you wouldn't be able to easily

00:17:06.980 confirm it and this lady is not on record having lied before and she runs a major nurses organization

00:17:13.460 she's not like a a nobody out there right so yeah i i think it's very plausible what she's saying

00:17:20.820 especially when i look at these tiktok trends videos and i'm like that looks like a potentially

00:17:25.060 lethal amount that you're taking there like somebody has explained to you that tylenol isn't

00:17:29.220 a a no side effects medication right like i just don't think they're aware of this so to get to

00:17:36.900 the thing i was talking about the twitter from tylenol the at tylenol brand wrote we don't

00:17:42.900 actually recommend using any of our products while pregnant thank you for taking time to voice your

00:17:47.540 concerns they deleted that post by the way they got freaked out because it's gone viral recently

00:17:55.140 and another post at tylenol said congrats on your upcoming edition exclamation mark so exciting

00:17:59.860 exclamation mark it would be great to touch base real quick since we haven't tested tylenol to be

00:18:04.420 used during pregnancy call us when you can in quote then in another one on addressing pregnancy pains

00:18:10.100 at tylenol said we're sorry to hear that it hasn't helped your pregnancy plans exclamation mark

00:18:15.460 please be sure to talk to your doctor for alternative pain relief options so basically

00:18:19.620 and multiple things tylenol was saying hey you shouldn't be doing this yeah and just for pain i

00:18:25.620 mean yeah you undergo so much pain during pregnancy when you tough it out simone you are it's better

00:18:32.260 yeah i mean like i don't know i i think that medications should only be taken to protect the

00:18:36.580 baby when you're pregnant you get thrown under the bus i do not care 1.00

00:18:39.460 i i heard you can't even drink when you're pregnant anymore i actually feel like people

00:18:46.020 are really loosening up on that they're like ah like yeah it's fine she drank during pregnancy

00:18:52.980 your mom yeah half a bottle of wine a day half a bottle of wine a day so she drank and everyone's

00:18:58.020 like wait you don't have fetal alcohol syndrome you can tell like you know gretz hornberg has fetal

00:19:01.860 alcohol syndrome it's pretty easy to tell when you're looking at somebody and people can be like why

00:19:05.860 aren't you and i was like do you know how much alcohol i drink like my family is like immune

00:19:10.820 not even immune it's like you need it like bender leave me alone look at that five o'clock rust 1.00

00:19:18.100 you've been up all night not drinking haven't you hey what i don't do is none of your business

00:19:23.700 please bender have some malt liquor if not for yourself then for the people who love you

00:19:28.660 wait i want you to look me in the eye and promise you won't get behind the wheel without

00:19:33.140 some kind of alcoholic beverage in your hand i promise nothing

00:19:40.340 it's yeah it's a necessary part of your diet without people are like malcolm you're really

00:19:45.140 smart i'm like imagine how smart i would be if i wasn't born you know soaked in and half a bottle

00:19:51.380 pickled yeah pickled

00:19:56.740 but let's go into these studies because i think that you might have a misunderstanding of why

00:20:02.980 he made this decision okay where did you get this understanding that you have by the way was it on

00:20:07.300 blocked and reported that no i asked i asked perplexity no but i mean that you know like it's

00:20:13.300 dealing with source data that has skew so yeah yeah and i'm asking croc so right like we're

00:20:18.900 getting it both rad well there you go so nurses in health study 2 2019 among 29 000 mother-child

00:20:26.580 pairs prenatal asinaminophen exposure was linked to 20 to 30 percent higher risk of

00:20:31.540 autism or adhd in children the adjusted odds ratio is 1.2 to 1.3 longer exposure duration correlated

00:20:39.540 with greater risk now i'll note here before we go to the next study that was a 29 000 mother-child

00:20:46.980 pair thing and it didn't just show greater risk it showed the more you took the greater the risk was

00:20:53.940 yeah but i thought that what there was was a correlation between people who were autistic

00:21:01.460 themselves taking more tylenol when pregnant okay maybe but i i just can't believe that that wasn't

00:21:09.300 tested for in a single one of these studies we're gonna go to the next study okay um next study boston

00:21:13.620 birth core host in 2500 urban mother child pairs diverse low income prolonged exposure over 28 days

00:21:22.340 associated with 4x higher asd risk or autism risk now this one is interesting because this is what i

00:21:28.740 saw when i looked into this before when you first started giving births because of course i wanted to

00:21:32.740 know like is tylenol safe to take while you're pregnant and what i remember reading and this is what

00:21:38.180 i've always communicated to you is that when it was found unsafe particularly in animal models you

00:21:44.020 basically needed to be on it for very long periods of time i.e 28 days or more like you wouldn't even

00:21:51.460 think of taking tylenol 28 days in a row while you were pregnant whereas this is where you're

00:21:56.580 getting these these risk scenarios and and and this was what we saw in mice around risks from it

00:22:03.460 is is normal amounts of tylenol taken for extremely long periods of time and some people just do this

00:22:09.620 because they have daily pain and that's where i think we really do need to be looking at the risk

00:22:13.940 from this because i i would not be at all surprised to this 4x higher rate and and i don't think you can

00:22:20.180 get something like a 4x higher rate just from a correlation with autistic people being more likely

00:22:24.740 to take tylenol i think maybe there's i'm going to check this too something about siblings like in in

00:22:31.620 pregnancies that had more acetaminophen intake if you also looked at whether their siblings were

00:22:36.260 autistic there were but then i mean presumably the mothers just have a habit of taking more yeah more 0.99

00:22:41.620 acetaminophen however it does say that some research indicates that there is a maternal genetic

00:22:46.980 predisposition to neural development conditions and correlating with increased pregnancy symptoms

00:22:54.020 like autistic people as you know are more sensitive to a lot of things true and therefore may medicate 0.67

00:23:03.620 i don't think they get you four x higher risk that's really high okay let's go to the next one here

00:23:08.980 harvard th chan school of public health review 2025 they did an nih funded meta analysis of 46 studies

00:23:16.660 with over 100 000 participants and they found quote-unquote consistent associations 27 studies

00:23:25.220 showed positive links to autism adhd was higher quality ones being more likely to report risks so ones

00:23:32.900 that were using more controls showed more risks as they recommended minimal use john hopkins university

00:23:38.660 and that that just came out this year and used over 100 000 people john hopkins university study

00:23:43.700 2019 meta analysis of seven studies with around 130 000 participants reported 20 to 30 increase in

00:23:50.980 both adhd and autism and this mattered more in boys and more if it was used later in pregnancy

00:23:57.780 later in pregnancy later in pregnancy that's interesting because normally the impression i get

00:24:03.620 is it's this it's what you're exposing a baby to earlier in pregnancy that has more of an impact

00:24:07.940 then we have the and note here i'm here talking about like john hopkins harvard nih this isn't like

00:24:16.100 some crackpot like conservative whatever yeah this is like a bunch of yahoos it's not like the the actual 0.79

00:24:24.660 thing that happened here is not that because a lot of people are like well he couldn't possibly have run

00:24:30.420 enough studies to get this data in this amount of time this is basically something that was well and

00:24:36.340 commonly known throughout the medical field before this but it was also known that we don't want to

00:24:42.740 scare women about tylenol too much because we we do i'll take autism over a neural tube defect any day

00:24:50.980 yeah any day right so that's that's the point right is they wanted to not overly freak people out so

00:24:58.260 there wasn't some big campaign around this but i've but i've noticed that there was this like

00:25:03.060 weird reactive thing on the left and i think it sort of came from the autism is from vaccines

00:25:10.020 thing where any explanation for autism is taken as a sign of a conspiracy theory um anyone saying this

00:25:17.460 is what might be causing autism rates they're just like ah that's definitionally conspiracy theory

00:25:24.100 because we know that what causes autism is one of the things we're not allowed to talk about

00:25:29.140 in the same way that like if we're talking about like falling fertility rates they're like oh that

00:25:32.180 must be a great replacement theory thing that must be a conspiracy theory because we just know this

00:25:35.940 is in the category of things we're not allowed to talk about so mount sinai study came out in 2025

00:25:41.460 this was a cohort of a thousand mothers and it found 25 higher risk there was the international

00:25:46.580 consensus statement in 2021 which had 91 experts from 17 countries review data and urged precautionary

00:25:53.940 limits on acetaminophen during pregnancy due to quote-unquote emerging neurodevelopmental risks so so in

00:26:00.580 2021 like a group of experts and this was published in nature right nature reviews endocrinology um

00:26:06.660 saying the experts night the 91 experts came together and said do not take this wantonly during

00:26:14.260 pregnancy biological mechanisms review 2022 this one actually had a proposed pathway acetaminophen may

00:26:21.220 disrupt fetal brain development via glutathione depletion and prostaglandulin inhibition and hormone

00:26:28.820 interference oh well so yeah that's a lot of research from a lot of really and there's also a lot of

00:26:39.460 research that points out that endocrine disruptors in you know first trimester at the very least and

00:26:45.860 probably all trimesters it you know are really not good to be exposed to and if you're ordering takeout if

00:26:52.340 you're eating at a restaurant like your stuff is being cooked in plastic you're getting that exposure

00:26:57.220 if you're microwaving stuff in plastic you're getting exposure if you're breathing in the air

00:27:01.220 you are getting that exposure so you know like no but the point you're making and i i make this point

00:27:07.700 as well is if you watch this podcast you're going to be broadly aware of the tide studies that she's

00:27:12.580 referencing here which show that young boys who have mothers have endocrine disruptors in them

00:27:17.380 during the first trimester of pregnancy which are common in a lot of chemicals today they develop

00:27:22.180 less into fully males they show more female play behavior at the age of seven lower anagenital 0.90

00:27:27.060 distance yeah so this is a thing that is known if rfk went up there and said there's a chemical that's 0.86

00:27:36.180 you know making young boys develop more like young girls everyone would be like oh we turn into frogs gay

00:27:43.380 oh this is a conspiracy theory oh can you believe how crazy it is the next day there would be 20 things

00:27:48.740 from the left about why these studies don't have proper controls and why these studies don't have

00:27:53.620 proper women eating plastic microwaving their vegetables in plastic bags yeah you guys know this 0.89

00:28:00.340 we know this this was just a category of thing that was in certain communities was commonly known i.e. the

00:28:07.380 in nature from the big panel of international experts and rfk just basically went up and said it publicly

00:28:16.260 and the left had to have an existential freak out in the same way that and i i won't say right these

00:28:22.260 days this is more common on the left but the right used to be like this like when michelle obama

00:28:26.740 decided she was going to like plant healthy gardens um oh yeah she yeah she planted like a victory 0.86

00:28:31.940 garden at the white house yeah yeah what can i do this not gonna fit then it became cool on the

00:28:36.580 right to be like performatively unhealthy for a while and people would walk around with like the giant

00:28:41.940 like baby size then there is a horrifying 512 ounce version that they call child size how is this a

00:28:50.660 child-sized soda well it's roughly the size of a two-year-old child if the child were liquefied 0.98

00:28:56.500 we're gone yes cups of of soda drinking them just to show i'm not a cocky damn i i'm destroying my body to 0.94

00:29:06.420 show how bad they are right you know the broader thing is because people often ask what do we think

00:29:11.780 of maha what do we think of rfk it seems pretty cool is what i'd say i i don't think i think he's

00:29:17.300 like seems like a righteous dude it seems like a righteous dude yeah he jeopardizes my ability

00:29:22.340 to effectively govern this student body oh well he's very popular ed the sportos and motorheads 0.98

00:29:28.900 geeks sluts bloods waste toys dweebies dickheads they all adore him they think he's a righteous dude 1.00

00:29:39.300 he he he's not right about all the science that he does absolutely true he does make mistakes he is 0.99

00:29:46.340 not like a rationalist he's much closer to a granola mom but he doesn't attack the things that i care

00:29:54.580 about he's not out there you know complaining about gmo foods which i think are like a way

00:30:02.580 i love that we took the let's prevent the random chemicals in endorphin blocker you know and let's

00:30:10.420 let's drop the gmo and anti-nuclear stuff that was common in in the old granola communities like i 0.50

00:30:16.660 remember at sanford somebody's like you're you're they're trying to get me flyers about that and i was

00:30:22.740 like oh like no sorry i'm i'm a scientist and they're like oh well then you must be extra against

00:30:28.260 it and i was like nobody who has a deep understanding of biology is against this it's not that it cannot

00:30:35.140 cause issues right like you can't get crossbreeding with wild specimens you can't get change in wild

00:30:39.380 populations and then you know there's the the political commercial issues of like theoretically

00:30:45.380 an agricultural company that produces them suing a farmer who's growing it because he didn't pay for

00:30:50.740 the seeds right right but if you're but if you're actually aware of how much extra crop is produced

00:30:56.180 because of this well and often without the need for genuinely bad for your health pesticides yes

00:31:03.060 go into the water supply and it's not just the pesticides that you're eating these pesticides

00:31:07.780 through the rainwater go into the rivers and they just completely f up these ecosystems yeah like

00:31:13.060 if you care about environmentalism you are pro-gmo clearly if you care about like starving africans 1.00

00:31:18.260 you're pro-gmo it gets very important nutrients into regions where you can't easily otherwise get

00:31:24.500 them through like golden rice and stuff we're talking about hundreds of millions of lives are

00:31:29.220 almost certainly saved every year by the existence of gmos um like it's it's one of these things where

00:31:35.060 you just need to be sort of like comically incompetent or evil to be against it like being against

00:31:40.100 nuclear power or something like that like it's like a strict benefit thing when it's being well

00:31:45.060 maintained i mean you can say oh whatever what if it's not being then focus on maintaining it man

00:31:50.980 right like this isn't the the decommission that when they get too old right build new ones that's

00:31:56.660 what we should be doing right now but we don't have any major projects doing that and most of our

00:32:00.980 nuclear plants are over 50 years old i don't know if you knew that not not great when i think of a 50

00:32:05.940 year old person's structural state but the the the what i was gonna say was the the wider point here

00:32:13.060 i don't know when you think about it though also like appliances built 50 years ago last a lot

00:32:17.220 longer than appliances built today so but the other thing i was going to say about rfk is so

00:32:23.300 people like well so he gets some science wrong sometimes being over granola over crunchy like

00:32:28.020 is that a problem for you and i'm like as long as he doesn't touch my gmos as long as he doesn't touch

00:32:33.220 my nuclear um in the ways that he is is making these decisions like well more kids could die because

00:32:39.140 communities are going unvaccinated i think that we have treated questioning vaccines as a sacred

00:32:44.420 cow for far too long and i think we as a society need to go back look at various vaccines and be

00:32:51.700 open to saying that they may not be safe in some circumstances and what cremeu has argued on x which

00:32:57.300 i think is both very brutal but also fair in like a in a world in which we respect people's cultural

00:33:05.620 autonomy is the highest rates of vaccination happened after big death scares after people

00:33:11.460 realized this is what happens if you don't vaccinate if we don't have herd immunity and then people went

00:33:17.140 out in droves like forcing people to get vaccinations is not the way people need to do it because they see

00:33:22.340 the value they themselves have been convinced and you know they they do it on another episode there's

00:33:28.660 been studies done post covet on like masks for example and we now know that masks in the regions that

00:33:34.820 were heavily masked like in the united states the states that had less mass restrictions actually

00:33:39.300 had fewer overall deaths even though it did increase casualties in the short term so the idea of

00:33:45.700 slowly building herd immunity and not having better effects in a lot of these external things is another

00:33:51.220 thing that we just haven't been studying very well this this also was true in in europe not not

00:33:56.340 smaller it was statistically no different effects there but the point being we as a society need to be

00:34:04.340 open to having conversations about this and i'm okay with rfk mostly because i like the voter base

00:34:08.500 he brings into the right like he brings in the granola moms in the soccer moms and we only have to care

00:34:16.180 and deal with like a few he's not like banning you from getting tylenol while pregnant or something

00:34:21.860 right you know maybe incorrect things being spoken about you know somebody was boomers idea of what

00:34:28.260 autism is like if you're autistic you're gonna live your entire life in diapers and be a drain on the 1.00

00:34:33.620 economy meanwhile like up on stage is elon musk like looking nervously but no but i think that

00:34:40.100 i am probably good well he left dc at the right time he hasn't he like didn't go back since yeah

00:34:46.740 well i love that what was it you you know chris chan is is very upset about asperger's people and

00:34:53.780 now that asperger's isn't around being considered autistic because he doesn't and i think rightly 1.00

00:34:58.660 he sees them as using people like him who are undergoing real and genuine challenges like the

00:35:05.060 inability to not great their mom come on i had to i had to go on that yes you did do i found out today

00:35:11.220 because we've been going through and and pushing to private on our fab.ai which is like the ai chat

00:35:16.020 engine that we built you guys try to it's like getting so much better every day i'm really proud of it

00:35:19.700 but push you know scenarios that are overly potentially like would squig people out in the

00:35:25.540 not safe for work simulator section for clarification here the only reason we can see these is because

00:35:29.940 they were set to public intentionally when they were created you can just choose to set things to private

00:35:35.220 by default and unlike any of the other chat engines our fab.ai has local saving enabled and not

00:35:42.820 just local saving but your save games themselves not the locally saved scenarios but your save games

00:35:47.220 themselves have military grade encryption on them and every time you reload it will ask you for

00:35:55.940 a word that is used to de-encrypt them and that word the reason it's asked every time is because

00:36:01.140 it's not saved on our database so even if somebody had our database and your computer without knowing

00:36:07.300 that string of text or word they couldn't unencrypt your files oh and as to why we're pushing some to

00:36:13.060 private we have some investors looking at us right now specifically made it to the next round of the

00:36:16.340 andreessen horowitz application and by pushing them to private the person who created them can still

00:36:21.540 play them but we don't have to worry about an investor getting squigged out and deciding that

00:36:25.540 they don't want to now i know a bunch of people are going to rush and try to create specifically

00:36:29.700 embarrassing stuff on there but whatever we have like an automatic generator so you don't need to

00:36:33.700 like use cinerets other field made to private and there were a lot on incest and somebody was like

00:36:39.060 is this like a power user who's making them all public or like we we on the on the dev end don't

00:36:44.740 actually like have the ability to see that because i tried to make everything super anonymized so wait

00:36:50.260 someone's just adding a bunch of incest content yeah wincest i love it okay go whoever you are go on

00:36:58.900 whatever yeah hey we had the episode where we're like yeah cousin marriages are the best for third to

00:37:04.260 fourth but yeah third to fourth cousin right yes and and that was the episode where we had the big

00:37:08.820 reveal to me that you and i are not related i had no idea i know i know we were so sure you were so

00:37:16.580 sure that we were going to come up as cousins well i felt like third or fourth cousins yeah we look

00:37:22.660 very similar people joke all the time we have similar personalities it makes sense though like when you

00:37:26.820 look at our our what we knew about our lineages and like where our ancestors immigrated and stuff it

00:37:32.660 would it would be fairly surprising yeah they came over in very different waves from very different

00:37:39.380 groups yeah so anyway i any any final thoughts from you on this i'm i want to look more at the research

00:37:48.900 now yeah i was under the impression that it was it was totally misinterpreted so now i'm like well i

00:37:53.380 guess i need to well you know sometimes the question that i affirmed it with is is why did he believe

00:38:00.100 this like where did he get this information oh so yeah i mean that could be a little confirmation

00:38:04.100 bias-y like i mean i also asked why people don't believe it and the answers it gave for why they

00:38:09.380 didn't believe it were so bad confounding factors in studies women take tylenol for things like 1.00

00:38:13.940 infections migraines hyper blah blah blah i was like that wouldn't increase the risk by that much uh that

00:38:18.980 would have a correlation to the risk but not 4x or something um inconsistent or weak evidence of the 46

00:38:24.980 review studies 20 show no or inverse effects but only 20 show no or inverse effects that's like

00:38:31.540 normal science when you know something is right when only 20 of the studies show no lack of causality

00:38:37.540 or proof this is just nonsense here the the experts like those at yale or pin note genetics explain 80 to

00:38:44.500 90 of the autism variants yeah but that doesn't then what about the other 10 or 20 like we still need to

00:38:49.700 talk about that and then they're like an rfk is a conspiracy theorist and then there's been statements

00:38:57.060 from who figo and european agencies which say evidence does not support causality which they

00:39:02.340 released after the rsk thing and i'm like yeah but like your top scientists were saying that it did

00:39:08.100 until rfk went out there and went on the record right like this is the thing like everybody was like

00:39:13.540 chill about this until the republican said it then they all freak out and start putting their heads in the

00:39:18.180 same is basically where we are as a society and if you're watching this and you're wondering like

00:39:22.740 where do i come down on this i think it probably does increase the risk especially if taken for

00:39:26.660 long periods like 28 days however i also think that pain management is critical in a pregnancy i don't

00:39:33.460 think so i think fever management is critical in a pregnancy and pain management i think if the

00:39:38.820 mom has too much cortisol for too long a period it can likely cause neurodevelopmental issues in the 0.87

00:39:45.140 child so there's actually some really interesting studies on this there was one study that looked at

00:39:51.140 women who gave birth during a period of famine and their children were like significantly more

00:39:57.300 likely to become obese later because basically their bodies were that has to do more with caloric 0.98

00:40:02.820 restriction right the point i'm making here is their bodies transfer information about the 0.53

00:40:09.700 environment that that baby is going to be born into to the fetus right if you are very stressed or you

00:40:17.700 believe life is very hard and there have been studies about this during like economic depressions and like

00:40:21.780 the effects it has on babies this is not good for babies it can cause like anxiety it can cause

00:40:26.820 depression in adulthood it can cause a sort of hoarding behavior and this is all like natural and

00:40:32.260 evolutionarily adaptive right so it's not even something that i would like question when i see this in

00:40:37.140 study i'm like oh yeah like that makes sense right you know and so i think that it's about using

00:40:42.900 tylenol where it's effective sorry using tylenol like

00:40:51.060 to to to some extent well understanding that you are trading one risk for another risk yeah like do you

00:40:57.540 want higher risk of neural tube defects or do you want higher risk of autism yeah you're choosing a lesser

00:41:02.900 evil and that that is the calculation to make not i'm just not going to do this and be

00:41:06.900 completely blind of the opportunity cost yes i think that's really important yeah that's it's a

00:41:15.300 much it's a much more important way of looking at or or functional way of looking at it and i think

00:41:20.740 it's also the other thing i take away at the end of this is the other side literally hates us more

00:41:25.780 than they love their own children they are willing to serving callously and casually put their children's

00:41:31.140 lives at risk because they have dehumanized the right so much that if somebody on the right says

00:41:36.740 something that was well known in the scientific community and largely accepted before this they

00:41:42.340 just have to reactively be like well then it must be wrong i i almost feel like i mean it reminds me of

00:41:47.700 the the vasectomy van that was outside the dnc you know by planned parenthood and i was like

00:41:54.420 if the right had sent a van like i want to do that i want to get like the vasectomy man sponsored by

00:42:01.780 pronatalist.org right we want americans to have more children no that doesn't mean you free vasectomies

00:42:09.860 then they'd freak out and be saying we need to ban vasectomies you know this is this is just what you do

00:42:14.260 right i suppose yeah reverse psychology in the most simplistic way possible and yet they fall for it

00:42:23.860 i would i would love like if i had like a big foundation like one of these muri or like

00:42:30.820 or if you're funded like turning points usa yeah you would you would you would ditch the the paid for

00:42:36.340 debate me bro sessions and just put out vasectomy trucks i would literally i mean literally

00:42:44.500 send a truck a vasectomy truck to the dnc and i have a very branded like american why why do it 0.88

00:42:52.980 when they're doing it and paying for it let them because of the the the one i think it would do a

00:42:58.740 good job of highlighting for people who are open to hearing our message like the actual cost of not

00:43:04.660 having kids and that we are not against dinks you can be dink that's great and then you can you can put 0.92

00:43:11.860 signs on it like you know you talk to news teams it goes you know back in the day we had to round

00:43:16.980 these types of people up these days they just march right in our van you know it i think it would

00:43:22.420 highlight for people the value of being able to reproduce and that when somebody is excited about

00:43:31.460 taking that away from you they are not a friend to people like you okay like that is why planned

00:43:37.540 parenthood opened the first place was to sterilize black communities like that was their stated 1.00

00:43:42.100 objective okay yeah it's still so hard to believe and yet there you go 89 of them are in majority 0.91

00:43:49.540 minority communities that's that's still i think that poppy i think it was like some crazy that 0.81

00:43:53.780 the u.s black population would be 40 higher if planned parenthood never existed i don't understand

00:43:58.740 i mean for right-leaning people i i think that this is a much harder pill if you're like your classic

00:44:03.140 like 90s rightist instead of like the new right that doesn't have any racism at all and you're like

00:44:07.460 actually a racist it's like abortion or racism which one am i for you know we we saw one guy who

00:44:13.700 wanted to fund planned parenthood for racist motivations and he wanted to like start a big

00:44:18.740 campaign around it and i was like i mean you can try but that that'd be another fun thing to do if

00:44:25.540 you want to end planned parenthood very easy be like start a campaign to fund planned parenthood for

00:44:31.060 explicitly racist reasons and i think really quickly that would do the news rounds people would

00:44:38.020 freak out planned parenthood would not take your money and then people would be like oh yeah abortion 0.98

00:44:44.500 when you're targeting specific demographics is really a horrifying thing not that abortion isn't

00:44:49.700 more generally a horrifying thing but you know anyway love you to death simone so glad that we were

00:44:54.260 able to welcome our kid into the world same and anybody who who wants to hey that's a bunch of money

00:44:59.780 and wants to fund a vasectomy brand van outside the dnc this next election cycle you let us know

00:45:08.740 and and we're going to be like we're here to have a conversation you don't want to have kids we don't

00:45:13.780 want you to have kids oh god love you mel put a scorecard outside the van okay okay

00:45:21.380 hitting and recording love you and set up i learned something really interesting about i guess ultimate

00:45:32.820 fighting and boxing when ultimate fighting was introduced it was seen as very savage and i don't

00:45:40.580 know inhuman because they removed boxing gloves this was bare knuckles fighting and that was seen as

00:45:46.420 i don't know more violent i guess but it actually isn't more violent and do you know why boxing

00:45:54.260 gloves were actually introduced in the first place i do not they have a higher knockout rate they enable

00:46:00.980 you to hit harder because it doesn't hurt your hand as much like you know the classic film trope where

00:46:06.420 someone punches someone else and they're like ah because it hurts and yeah when you're causing a

00:46:13.460 concussion by that is that is crazy but that's especially when when boxing gloves apparently

00:46:18.660 get wet it's they're like you're just fighting with giant rocks on your hands it's so question

00:46:24.100 so the reason why there was an economic reason to do this is with sports betting knockout rates are

00:46:29.540 really favorable you want more knockouts because more people then have something to really like a clear 1.00

00:46:34.100 thing to bet on it's too easy to tap out if you're just grappling or something like that so it was there

00:46:39.540 was a commercial reason for this one for boxing gloves to be introduced and also for more more

00:46:45.780 violence but then of course there was also a commercial reason for the ultimate fighting guy

00:46:49.620 to be like oh yeah bare knuckles it's definitely more violent fascinating yeah all right i will

00:46:57.940 get started with this by the way but what did you think of the the comments today people enjoyed it uh

00:47:03.860 i mean a lot of the the biggest criticism was asmund gold is not to the right and yeah he is a centrist

00:47:11.700 but these days if you don't tow the most extreme points at the left then you are categorized as on the

00:47:16.500 right i mean he's right is is you know jfk or whatever who we're going to be talking about rfk or you

00:47:24.900 know no come on rfk it's like a lefty by previous definitions right you know yeah a very yeah crunchy

00:47:33.220 crunchy crunchy lefty yeah even even if controversies are left-leaning like so the the right i mean if

00:47:38.820 you're using that traditional definition of the right i think i think as my gold is very

00:47:43.380 sort of like the the modern id of the right in terms yeah and i think a lot of people just haven't

00:47:47.700 recognized that the right is no longer about just pure conservatism social conservatism and religious

00:47:54.020 conservatism it is about a heterodox alliance of people who want cultural autonomy yeah which is very

00:48:02.180 very different than we're gonna force cultural where the cultural conservative types they've

00:48:07.300 actually moved to the left um because they want to do things like ban porn which requires vpn bans

00:48:11.940 which means you're basically giving the government to control what anyone says or thinks and in that

00:48:15.940 case you end up with like extreme leftist positions like we need to give the government

00:48:20.500 and bureaucrats control of what i'm allowed to see and think yeah and so i think that yeah it's just

00:48:25.860 different world that we're living in now would change through technology and social

00:48:30.100 situations i'll get started here

00:48:35.060 oh yeah we should probably also let people know so we had a kid the kid is in the nicu still there was 0.99

00:48:40.740 i forget the word holes in his lungs due to aspirating or x in each lungs in each one which is

00:48:47.300 it's another way of saying collapsed lung

00:48:52.500 and he's probably going to be okay you know obviously we're we're praying and we're hoping

00:48:56.740 those things work out he if you if you wanted to see like a full video of like the births and the

00:49:02.580 hospital process and everything like that we put that on one of our picture on episodes it's not

00:49:06.820 because we wanted to paid sub stack episode or paid sub stack it's not that like we were trying to

00:49:12.260 hide that from our general audience i just don't think that the type of people who come for our usual

00:49:17.620 talks are going to find that interesting and so it would have hurt us in the algo so that's why we put

00:49:22.660 it was paid content and that's what often happens with the paid content yeah i would show y'all texts

00:49:26.740 on our nicu panda cam but he's being fed right now so i have to but i have him on a constant screen and

00:49:33.860 that's one thing that they don't tell you about nicu's that a lot of nicu's have a constant camera 0.91

00:49:39.300 you can have on your baby so even when you can't be with them you can still watch them oh and for those

00:49:45.060 who don't know because you didn't mention that some people were like oh if i could pay for you guys i

00:49:48.420 would well we do have episodes seven days a week it's just the weekend episodes you only get your

00:49:54.180 paid i will note the weekend episodes are are shorter and oftentimes on subjects that i think that

00:49:59.620 like honestly like when we're doing our regular episodes it's a lot of stuff that i think will do

00:50:05.220 well in the algorithm like women bad democrats silly when it's weekend episodes it's it's it's 0.96

00:50:10.180 listener requests that we agree are really interesting but that we don't that we think we'd be punished

00:50:15.140 for on youtube basically yeah so it's more like what we think is interesting and what i think our

00:50:22.180 higher economic user base is going to think is interesting so i like it i love i love the weekend

00:50:27.860 episodes but anyway i like all episodes anyone who gives us the honor of their time these days is i

00:50:34.500 mean that's the most precious thing these days it's it's a huge honor but the monetary support is

00:50:40.420 really appreciate it so thank you ben bridge is working are you gonna break his leg sosie

00:50:50.260 oh no yes the bridge worked

00:50:56.420 oh my god you just punched the

00:50:57.940 yes yes i did yes i did i want it off off off turn it off what about you turn it off

00:51:07.780 a bridge has been founded

00:51:12.980 i know my bridge has been founded oh my it's cracked it got cracked by the giant door speed

00:51:21.780 now

00:51:31.620 the

00:51:45.420 No! I don't know if you push me. Don't push me, Titan.

00:51:52.420 Okay, a lot of little me and go.

Based Camp - October 07, 2025

Viral Trend of Taking Tylenol While Pregnant： They Hate Us More Than They Love Their Children

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