Based Camp - September 16, 2024


Was it a Mistake to Defund the Police? (Asks Local Idiot) The Free Money Glitch to High Crime


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 18 minutes

Words per Minute

177.89229

Word Count

13,889

Sentence Count

22

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

24


Summary

In this episode, we discuss new forms of crime and crime waves that are hitting major American cities at the moment and transforming the nature of business in these cities. For example, what would shopping be like if you could walk into a store, grab what you want and just go? What would shopping look like?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 hello simone today we are going to be talking about an interesting topic one is new forms of
00:00:05.840 crime and crime waves that are hitting major american cities at the moment and transforming
00:00:10.960 the nature of business in these cities if you could walk into a store grab what you want and
00:00:18.400 just go what would shopping look like oh my god call the police welcome to amazon go
00:00:26.760 we call it just walk out technology
00:00:32.080 recently there was a tiktok trend that was called the the chase money glitch
00:00:41.060 twins twins i'm not even gonna lie i'm not even supposed to condone in this type of behavior due
00:00:46.540 to the direction that i'm trying to project my life in but that chase bait plate looking too
00:00:51.500 sweet right now twins no cap i could just hit one chase bait plate oh man they really told me to
00:00:58.240 tap in next day was supposed to clear look at my account yo because i have thirty thousand dollars
00:01:04.240 in credit card debt when they call i tell them i can't pay it back yet credit card debt i'm so excited
00:01:12.260 about this is that despite what people think there is actually pretty strong evidence that crime in
00:01:21.760 the current day and age is at one of its highest levels in human history that's meaningful because
00:01:28.880 normally the trend is oh you watch the news you think crime is so bad when really crime has never
00:01:34.620 been lower and crime is going down just to quickly know where this number comes from specifically what
00:01:42.200 they do at if they correlate crime rates across cultures with homicide rates which are much easier
00:01:47.540 to track in absolute amounts right because many people have things stolen from them and just never
00:01:52.060 report it or even that reporting just gets lost and so it's not good what they do is they correlate
00:01:57.440 the homicide rates with correcting for survival rates due to advances in medical technology
00:02:03.040 and when you correct for that what looks like a dropping crime rate is actually a quickly rising crime
00:02:09.500 rate right because the issue is that in what really we were looking at was oh our hospitals have gotten
00:02:15.700 a lot better it's not crime has gone down it's that now when you get shot you're more likely to live
00:02:20.380 which is nice i guess also could be going over a phenomenon where police have basically given up or it
00:02:29.140 looks like from the data uh people are just not being convicted anymore can you blame them also a
00:02:35.080 lot of people are getting elected at all i mean it's such a thankless job today but let's get into the
00:02:41.140 data because this is going to be a very data heavy episode and some of the individual claims here would
00:02:46.260 you like to know more well the statistic i wanted to find that i just thought was absolutely insane and
00:02:50.540 i have to find it somewhere is that in nyc your average retail store is being robbed on average once a day
00:02:57.220 okay so i decided to do the math on this since 2021 full year numbers of shoplifting incidents have escalated
00:03:04.980 up to 59 000 and that represents a nearly 35 increase so i took this 59 137 number and then i looked up how many
00:03:15.220 stores are in manhattan and there are 750 and that gives us a any given store in manhattan is robbed
00:03:24.280 on average 79 times per year um at this point but the big thing that's changed recently and they'll
00:03:32.520 always talk about like oh crime rates are down to where they were before the pandemic but that's just
00:03:36.240 not true yeah actually robberies have risen five percent year over year as anyone who has been to a place
00:03:41.080 like manhattan would know like manhattan now every store everything is locked up like everywhere you
00:03:47.060 go it is not like it used to be you've been to like a cvs in manhattan recently simone yeah everything
00:03:51.600 is locked up you have to wait forever to get someone to unlock the shelf to help you which is very
00:03:57.480 annoying right and that now new forms of crime because it's so easy to rob people have started
00:04:03.540 where one form of crime started where because the new york had these outdoor seating areas for the
00:04:08.360 restaurants during covid that weren't really part of a restaurant people would just go up and rob
00:04:13.480 everyone who was sitting at them you know do a stick up ask for their wallets their phones everything
00:04:18.320 like that well outdoor diners beware this surveillance video shows what's starting to look like a pattern
00:04:25.100 of armed robberies at outside restaurants in this instance two men eating at marlo and sons in
00:04:31.080 williamsburg were forced to hand over their watches there have been similar incidents at birds of a feather
00:04:37.020 also in williamsburg and carbone in the village police are trying to figure out whether the
00:04:41.800 holdups are connected and now they become more brazen and they're moving into is in the swanky parts
00:04:49.080 of new york just going directly into the wealthy restaurants and just robbing everyone in the
00:04:53.680 restaurant and then driving away and this has become a new type of crime this year that like i guess
00:04:59.040 people hadn't thought of doing before just no but this used to be i this is i always used to see this
00:05:04.560 as you know stick them up oh you know you go in and you uh you point a gun at everyone in a
00:05:10.480 restaurant or something there's that famous scene from i think a quentin tarantino movie that it starts
00:05:17.360 with a couple being like no more liquor stores what we've been talking about yeah no more liquor store
00:05:21.600 and if it's not the gooks it's these old jews have owned a store for 15 generations you've got
00:05:26.500 grandpa ervin sitting by the behind the counter with a magnum in his hand
00:05:30.120 this place a coffee shop what's wrong with that nobody ever robs restaurants why not
00:05:37.080 restaurants you catch with their pants down they're not expecting to get robbed
00:05:41.580 customers one minute they're having a denver omelet next minute someone's sticking a gun in their face
00:05:46.000 a lot of people come to restaurants a lot of walnuts
00:05:50.400 pretty smart huh i love you i love you honey bunny everybody be cool this is a robbery
00:06:00.560 any of you f***ing pricks move and i'll execute every mother f***ing last one of you
00:06:07.860 i love you honey bear it's a pulp fiction there you go so i always saw that it's like the classic
00:06:15.660 crime but that never happened do this at fancy restaurants not historically you did it at like
00:06:20.800 yeah you did it at a diner but the smart people do it at fancy restaurants i'm just glad people
00:06:26.200 have come around but one cinematic magic why wouldn't these people be doing this you know
00:06:31.280 somebody's pointing on the comments in one of the videos i was watching of this that if you steal less
00:06:35.380 than a thousand dollars a day you're not going to get jail time in the u.s but if you don't pay
00:06:38.880 five hundred dollars in taxes to the irs you know your life gets ruined yeah and it is and and people
00:06:45.860 are like how like if you're from other places in the u.s and i might play some video of like how
00:06:50.800 brazenly these robberies are happening now your initial reaction is like how are people doing this
00:06:56.560 without fear of being shot and this is just it's amazon go if you could walk into a store grab what you
00:07:04.020 want and just go what would shopping look like oh my god call the police welcome to amazon go
00:07:13.360 we call it just walk out technology
00:07:18.660 take whatever you like sometimes when i call 911 nobody answers
00:07:27.540 no lines no checkout no seriously shoplifters don't seem to care who's watching once you've
00:07:35.480 got everything you want you can just go
00:07:38.120 filling bags and backpacks in the middle of the day
00:07:44.120 you can keep going amazon go
00:07:49.520 it's with that internet historian he's just grab it and go
00:07:59.460 but that's different so robbing stores is one thing because most stores have a policy that says
00:08:05.160 the employees can get fired for intervening with a robbery yeah for insurance reasons so so in other
00:08:11.840 words because because these larger corporations have insurance policies that basically won't pay
00:08:17.500 out properly if employees intervene because that can increase liability even more they they yeah
00:08:23.580 they have these policies where you can't intervene which is really hard for employees
00:08:27.160 because yeah they may like for the first yeah like once a day it's fine but then when the same person
00:08:33.820 comes in the 15th time and steals another pair of lululemon leggings are you going oh yeah and we're
00:08:39.020 going to talk about this because it is actually a very small number of people just doing it over and
00:08:43.120 over and over again and and again why wouldn't they there is very little punishment and yeah
00:08:47.960 they're being incentivized to do it effectively they're being rewarded every time they do it
00:08:51.760 because they get the thing and they don't get caught well they don't get apprehended so as mcgold
00:08:56.800 do you know who he is right no he's one of the most famous like talk youtubers fantastic guy i really
00:09:02.520 love his content watch other people's videos i can't wait till he does one of ours and he was doing
00:09:06.920 one on this crime spree and he was like confused as to how people thought they could get away with
00:09:13.200 this without getting shot right and and because new york is a concealed carry state it's a super
00:09:19.200 liberal state so who's doing it learn yeah is it's concealed carry yes but it's basically possible to
00:09:27.140 get a concealed carry license so you have to do like 16 hours of courses and one person was talking
00:09:32.820 about how they had done the 16 hours of courses denied the concealed carry license because they
00:09:38.500 were quote unquote a 25 year old male and able to defend themselves without being
00:09:43.100 you go to the office they look you up and down they're like you could cut a bitch like you don't
00:09:49.960 need no but hold on this is insane because one it's like yeah but what if the criminal has a gun
00:09:54.280 first of all are they supposed to like jujitsu somebody with a gun and then two yes like we know
00:10:01.200 what happens in new york if you if they're basically saying no just beat them to death
00:10:05.520 and it's like oh well i mean if you're a white man you just stand on their neck and they die or
00:10:09.240 something isn't that how white people kill people i don't know no so there was the incidence of the
00:10:14.240 the guy who was going around trying to kill people that that guy in the subway station
00:10:18.380 threatening to kill people beating him to death and then they're like oh well i know we said that
00:10:23.420 you're supposed to do this but he was black and you were white and that makes him a
00:10:28.080 protected class so you know to jail for life with you it's it's absolutely insane how little
00:10:35.280 incentive there is to not do this and there's another crazy thing that's going on in new york
00:10:39.840 right now which is an increase in assaults due to tiktok and i'll put an article on screen here
00:10:46.120 about this but there is a a a punching tiktoks are now pretty popular i was literally just walking
00:10:51.760 and a man came up and punched me in the face stories from new york city women going viral on
00:10:58.000 tiktok i literally just got punched by some man on the sidewalk their videos detailing how they're
00:11:03.860 allegedly getting punched in the face completely unprovoked several women have posted these videos
00:11:09.740 describing similar allegations in just the last week heli kate posted about an assault on monday
00:11:16.140 she says she had to be treated at a local medical facility for injuries to the left side of her face
00:11:22.060 oh my god it hurts so bad i can't even talk olivia brand posting updates on her own experience earlier
00:11:28.920 this month after commenters on tiktok started connecting the two cases and like adding me and
00:11:35.040 saying like look this girl went through something similar elio wagner says she was punched in the face
00:11:40.580 by someone she didn't know last september broken down by week misdemeanor assaults are up 10 percent
00:11:47.500 compared to the same period last year what else are we hearing about this one suspect that is in
00:11:52.960 custody tonight this guy bokeh store he actually is a bit of a fringe political figure ran for mayor of
00:11:58.060 new york city back in 2021 and he has now been charged with this assault for one of these cases
00:12:05.360 oh no this whole thing i mean this comes up as a thing in the news every now and then where there's like
00:12:11.780 the whatever game where supposedly impressionable teenagers are being convinced to go out and punch
00:12:19.860 people and then post it on tiktok but i i don't i don't doubt that it happens in fact there's currently
00:12:25.280 a lawsuit against tiktok taking place for a very different dangerous game in which it's called the choking
00:12:30.500 game you know you can imagine the asphyxiation game at play here where one 10 year old girl actually
00:12:36.080 died doing it of course and and the parent is trying game what is this where it shows you how to
00:12:44.620 engage in auto asphyxiation yeah and it's just like do it it's on tiktok so it's fun so a 10 year
00:12:51.740 old girl did it i mean thousands of people did it she died doing it the mother is trying to sue tiktok
00:12:59.040 for serving an algorithm that that gave that to her which is like it's a difficult like legal thing
00:13:07.460 to litigate but i mean who knows right but still like how they'll like take down slightly conservative
00:13:12.040 content but they won't take down content showing kids how to off themselves i mean like it is wild
00:13:18.740 how bad the the censorship is these days but simone to go further okay yes before we go further here
00:13:25.580 so if we go to new york and we go to a fancy restaurant someone's gonna stick us up then
00:13:29.540 we're gonna go outside some kid on tiktok's gonna punch us and then run away right that's that's life
00:13:33.800 in new york right now i mean we're about to go to dc so buckle up now if you're if you're going into
00:13:39.320 this and you're like well but black lives matter told me that black people want less cops so this is
00:13:45.380 probably all a good thing you know there's fewer fewer cops if you can count it it's fewer if it's
00:13:50.360 something like a mass where it's not countable like water then it's less
00:13:54.440 okay so less cops anyway so there was this simone i'm not gonna fall for your your erudite grammar
00:14:08.400 okay i speak like a man okay an american i use whatever word i want
00:14:14.400 yeah um but anyway so if you're like but i was told by black lives matter that that and you know
00:14:21.780 there's that that horrible like cucked comic where it's the individual who got their bike stolen and
00:14:27.900 they're like i was sad because i got my bike stolen but then i was happy thinking that whoever took it
00:14:32.340 probably needed it more than i did oh um and it's like wow have you cucked yourself and it turns out
00:14:38.140 there's this one like mexican bike theft lord that's selling them in bulk across the border
00:14:43.760 yeah it's not like it's not just one guy but your bike it's an industrialized stealing ring like yeah
00:14:51.240 how dumb do you have to be to not understand how like basic types of thievery work stealing bikes as
00:14:58.040 an individual isn't a good way to make money the individual who stole your bike was making minimum
00:15:03.560 wage working for a drug lord basically probably not even making minimum wage probably being paid
00:15:09.260 in small amounts in new york no no they can't afford new york minimum wage not in this economy
00:15:14.420 got it is malcolm no being paid in math another person who famously shared a similar sentiment was
00:15:20.480 the celebrity seth rogan dude i've lived here for over 20 years you're nuts uh-huh it's lovely here
00:15:26.820 don't leave anything valuable in it it's called living in a big city you can be mad but i guess i don't
00:15:33.060 personally view my car as an extension of myself and i've never really felt violated any of the 15
00:15:38.020 or so times my car was broken into once a guy accidentally left a cool knife in my car so if
00:15:43.380 it keeps happening you might get a little treat also it sucks your shit was stolen but la is not some
00:15:48.520 shithole city as far as big cities go it has a lot of homeless people i mean a lot going for it
00:15:53.700 he's also a pretty rampant antinatalist so there's that i mean it's pretty obvious that society is going
00:16:02.600 to become a lot better as people like this remove themselves from the gene pool so you know i that's
00:16:09.640 one of the many reasons why i'm actually quite psyched about fertility collapse i still don't want
00:16:14.420 kids yeah it doesn't seem that fun and most of my friends who are parents god bless them spend a lot
00:16:21.780 of their time talking about how much they don't like having kids uh and what me and my wife spent a lot
00:16:28.440 of time talking about is how much fun stuff we can do because we don't have kids i think that that's
00:16:33.420 actually pretty rad though because it's like not everybody that's not everybody's dream is to do
00:16:37.900 that and a lot of people i just think it's important you say that but you don't need kids there's so many
00:16:41.960 kids i know and that's the thing too yeah who looks at all the kids out there and thinks i wish there
00:16:48.260 were more kids no i think there should be more voices that you don't need to have kids yeah you
00:16:54.600 don't need to have kids also like won't the world not be here in 30 years
00:16:57.840 the truth is is no while you are being told by progressives that blacks don't want police in
00:17:07.600 their communities i'm gonna read a quote here and this is from cy post a very centrist organization
00:17:12.240 most black americans favor maintaining or even increasing local police presence and funding
00:17:18.520 according to a recent study published in the journal of criminal justice surprisingly this
00:17:22.860 preference is more robust among black americans than non-black americans it holds steady regardless
00:17:28.440 of changes in crime trends or information about policing reforms support for police however is reduced
00:17:34.400 by negative feelings towards police and perceptions of unfairness and police procedures so black americans are
00:17:39.560 more pro police than white americans and they want on average more police in their neighborhoods not
00:17:47.940 less okay the idea that they want anything else is a not just a fiction it is a lie that victimizes
00:17:58.100 black communities yeah we're seeing all people that are actually in a lot of these poor communities
00:18:03.300 outside of the ones doing the crime are not defund the policers okay they know they need the
00:18:09.120 fucking police it's always upper middle class people that think they have some kind of solidarity with
00:18:14.160 poor people and so they want to take their right to safety away from them they're like oh we're gonna
00:18:19.520 try to help you we're gonna we're gonna make your life better you're not gonna get arrested anymore by
00:18:23.980 these mean police officers it's crazy man and the reason why they don't get it is because they live
00:18:29.760 such sheltered privileged lives that they've never needed police it's never been a problem okay so let's
00:18:35.720 let's start with that but now we are gonna go into the stats and i'm gonna be putting some graphs on
00:18:40.340 screen here and we're gonna have a lot of fun okay who's dad and this comes from an aporia piece
00:18:45.740 called murder as a measuring stick in aporia you know we know matt who runs it i actually he stepped
00:18:51.760 down yeah yeah but anyway great great magazine i remember the last time we went to it because we
00:18:56.720 were mentioning it on the podcast and i go to it and the front page of the magazine is one of our
00:19:00.660 child's faces for the front page article that day and no one had asked us no i had sent that to diana
00:19:05.880 fleishman who wrote the article oh you had okay i had no i was just like what uh no no no no i want
00:19:12.700 everyone to know how cute our children are malcolm of course comparing crime rates between countries and
00:19:18.880 across time is hard definition shift unpunished crimes go unreported the quality of statistics varies
00:19:25.860 and what constitutes a crime changes and they had a citation on the unpunished crimes go unreported
00:19:31.200 part the exception is murder both its definition and the reporting are consistent between countries
00:19:38.660 and across time hence murder rates are often used as a proxy for crime rates and they have a citation
00:19:44.460 there as well and this is when you're dealing for very very long crime rates and right here is a
00:19:50.280 visualization from 1909 to 2023 of murder rates and even when you are not adjusting for medical
00:19:58.320 advancements which we'll get to in a bit we right now are above the average murder rate from 1909 to 2023
00:20:06.620 it shot up massively in the early 2020s and it looks like what you actually have here is a scenario in
00:20:16.700 which the murder rate goes way up then you'll get a slight dip then it goes way up again yeah what is
00:20:22.560 that it's it seems like there was murder season what is going on there oh is it it's summer sorry i
00:20:27.620 forgot i actually well yeah there is like murder season but here what i actually expect is happening
00:20:32.920 when i look at where the rates go way up again is it is as a result of the the lead when they started
00:20:39.420 using lead in but then when nobody went up and down and up and down like i don't think like
00:20:43.400 no it should just go up and down at all this is over a century simone oh okay sorry i should it does
00:20:51.240 go up and down over a century we're talking decades apart oh so when it goes down for that big thing
00:20:57.860 it's the lead and then yeah it looks like it was from leaded gas if you if you overlay this big middle
00:21:04.360 rise in crime rates it's probably due to leaded gas yes of course that makes sense and you had a huge
00:21:10.440 decrease in crime rates after so basically crime rates are constantly going up from like 1909
00:21:16.180 to like 1933 what happened in 1933 that depressed the crime rates and then led to them to continue
00:21:23.160 to be depressed the great depression world war one and world war two oh oh yeah and and that did
00:21:29.960 1933 though we didn't go to war in 33 um okay so my internal memory of dates is not very good
00:21:37.140 world war one started the united states joined world war one in 1917 and we ended our involvement
00:21:43.420 in 1918 and you still see a pretty sharp rise in the crime rates after that so i'm going to retract
00:21:50.580 that being the main reason for this depression and crime rates as for the ban on leaded gas that
00:21:55.900 happened in 1973 and as you can see the rapid decrease in crime rates began exactly 20 years after
00:22:02.420 that which is i think about what we'd expect that would be great but now we are dealing with a
00:22:06.880 massive uptick in crime rates and the rise we are seeing looks like it might be faster than any of
00:22:12.560 the previous rises that we've seen all right although the murder rate is insulated from reporting and
00:22:19.820 definition shifts it is very strongly affected by medical care both improved techniques and better
00:22:24.440 access a fatal injury in 1960 might be easily treatable today to put it in concrete numbers if aggravated
00:22:30.920 assaults in the united states had been as lethal in 1999 as they were in 1960 the murder rate would
00:22:36.920 have been 3.4 x higher whoa okay yeah you're looking at this graph adjust the more recent ones
00:22:47.220 by 3.4 x meaning that basically rates have well we'll get into what we've actually seen from rates
00:22:55.760 and i'm going to put a graph on screen here so people can see the rise in lethality
00:22:59.020 basically directly correlates with the drop in homicide rates that's being recorded taking this
00:23:05.900 into account i would estimate that a murder today represents four to five times as much crime and
00:23:12.160 disorder as a murder in 1960 and probably 10 times as much as a medieval murder with early 20th century
00:23:19.460 somewhere in between the two as such today's murder rate being comparable to that of the 1960s
00:23:25.020 represents a colossal failure of justice with overall crime and disorder being several times higher than
00:23:31.560 it was two generations ago why does this matter the major costs of crime are not from murder because
00:23:38.880 murder is rare and highly concentrated in a few demographics they are from more common crimes like
00:23:45.700 assault mugging burglary housebreaking and grape as well as general public disorder both directly and
00:23:52.480 in the huge cost people pay to avoid it murder is a reasonably murder is a reasonably good proxy
00:23:58.860 for these things in the short run because all crime and disorder tends to go together but the
00:24:05.420 ratio of murder i just want to highlight i had never thought before about the the cost of crime when you
00:24:13.620 consider how people live differently when they anticipate crime the things that they don't do to avoid crime
00:24:19.880 and that really there's a huge article we could go into on this it's really interesting that goes over
00:24:25.280 how in countries like japan and korea where you don't have as much crime there are not big dead
00:24:30.940 zones in the center of major cities but in the u.s and parts of europe there are where you know you'll
00:24:36.860 there'll be zones in the center of cities like just people don't go because they're dangerous right i mean
00:24:42.040 this is not a universal phenomenon it's a phenomenon unique to high crime countries right um
00:24:47.700 a murder rate of x you know even in the recent past corresponds to a lower crime rate than the
00:24:54.360 murder rate of x today uh discourse about crime and its prevalent must take this into account
00:25:00.340 now here they have a very long explanation about why in the united states the homicide rate is higher
00:25:08.040 but the overall disorder rate is not higher because this is true in the united states we just
00:25:13.080 have a uniquely high homicide culture in our country well god bless us for being so effective
00:25:18.580 right you know at least we get the job done when we obviously progressives will be like but this is
00:25:23.300 because of our gun laws but that's like objectively not true because canada has similar gun laws and
00:25:28.360 some other countries have similar gun laws and it doesn't lead to the same rise in crime so yeah
00:25:33.120 it's not due to our gun laws it's due to a cultural phenomenon in this article they go into a fairly
00:25:38.920 detailed number focus argument based on hbd which i am not going to get into but third rail third rail
00:25:46.960 third rail they're more third rail than i'm willing to go i i actually was hesitant to to write for them
00:25:53.220 because i was like i can't be um we actually thought when we were originally doing this podcast
00:25:58.180 we were going to do it as an aporia podcast like to to work directly with them to do it and be funded
00:26:04.480 partially by them but we just couldn't bring ourselves to do it because i didn't want to be
00:26:09.080 connected with the hbd stuff for people who don't know what hbd is it's human biodiversity basically
00:26:14.180 a euphemism the the the the the theory that there are intergenerationally large and persistent
00:26:22.880 genetic differences in behavioral patterns across ethnic groups um i just i just don't want to touch it i
00:26:29.460 don't i don't see any reason why i need to argue that particular third rail so wait why am i missing here
00:26:34.420 okay yes if the western criminal justice systems were merely as effective as they were in 1960
00:26:41.280 and western populations have a similar genetic propensity to commit crime we would naively
00:26:46.740 expect crime to fall over time as has happened in japan for the following reasons obesity despite
00:26:54.320 being of lower socioeconomic status and intelligence by the way the reason they point that out is because
00:26:59.240 being lower socioeconomic status and lower intelligence increases the probabilities that somebody will
00:27:04.100 commit a crime yeah and you can look in prison systems in that and actually the types of crimes they
00:27:09.900 commit change so for example the rate of being a grapist goes up really high in proportion to how low
00:27:16.300 your iq is and goes down with how high your iq is which again reminds me of that girl who's like well if i
00:27:23.500 can't buy guess i'm gonna steal it yeah just just like that whole dynamic summarized oh my god i saw the
00:27:31.000 most hilarious low iq crime thing that happened recently there was a tiktok trend and i'm gonna see
00:27:37.160 if i can find some video of this that was called the the chase money glitch oh wait that was real i saw
00:27:45.360 people making fun of it check fraud it was check fraud no what they found was this really cool
00:27:51.240 glitch where you could deposit a check for money that you didn't have and it took the bank like 30
00:27:57.160 minutes to realize that the check had bounced but you could withdraw that money in cash before it bounced
00:28:02.680 and so this is how the chase money glitch worked and people thought this was free money
00:28:08.560 half of these have to be they will use these there's no way there's no way guys
00:28:26.540 twins twins i'm not even gonna lie i'm not even supposed to condone in this type of behavior due to
00:28:34.980 the direction that i'm trying to project my life in but that chase bait plate looking too sweet right
00:28:40.560 now twins no cap i can just hit one chase bait plate i i can buy so many shabits like twins is
00:28:47.340 for 30 40 balls 50 balls like like their plan is to do some kind of scam and then retire for the rest
00:28:55.540 of their lives on the twelve thousand dollars that the scam is going to make them his comments
00:29:00.720 yeah filled with people either claim no more nine to five or fishing for victim if you got chase let
00:29:07.840 me know someone pmo if you got chase let me know how do you withdraw it all at once yeah i said then
00:29:13.040 they found out later i didn't know it wasn't free money that they had to find a way to pay it back
00:29:18.440 after they had spent it all
00:29:19.980 the bank had their social security number and place of work and address
00:29:28.380 they didn't know that yeah they know where you live
00:29:33.180 oh man they really told me to tap in next day was supposed to clear look at my account yo
00:29:47.420 because i have thirty thousand dollars in credit card debt
00:29:56.300 when they call i tell them i can't pay it back yet credit card debt tomorrow i may buy myself a
00:30:04.360 dining room set or this boba fett credit card debt this is an incidence of crying by stupidity
00:30:10.360 i mean i love like i part of me wonders like what's going through their head and i was watching an
00:30:15.700 azimacold video on this as well and my general takeaway was his as well which is that they just
00:30:22.440 do not understand at a base level how a bank works to them a bank is a money machine and there's a
00:30:30.100 glitch in it that's giving them the ability to access more money i mean they've never taken out
00:30:34.240 a loan or anything like that they don't understand these concepts if there is a way to get the bank to
00:30:39.560 just give them money then they yeah why not right and there's these videos of them just like
00:30:44.620 incriminating like twerking and stuff out in front of a bank was like cash like no cash thing on their
00:30:51.140 arm no i don't think you do it sorry wait you think it goes like this that's how they did it they
00:31:01.460 like they'd like spread out the cash on their arm no you go like this no no no you know nothing about
00:31:07.360 like the riz and the drip of the younger generation simone there's no way
00:31:11.460 there's you're like an old how do you put the bills across your arm you gotta do it like the
00:31:19.460 youth do or you ain't got no riz okay interesting well anyway though this did blow my mind because i
00:31:26.420 did not know that obese people are about 20 to 25 percent per five bmi less likely to commit violent
00:31:35.060 property and drug crimes than their normal weight counterparts so amazing you know if you walk by a
00:31:41.540 fat person on the street you can be 20 to 25 percent per five bmi less worried that they're gonna i'm
00:31:48.840 gonna be honest when i see people that my brain recognizes are threatening and i move to the other
00:31:55.160 side of the street they are never obese they're never fat it's true because it's the wiry ones you
00:32:00.360 have to watch out for well i look for the wiry ones or the ripped ones or the ones who look like that
00:32:05.760 you know the math gets in the sort of skinny yeah anyway i'm gonna read this this whole thing here
00:32:12.040 because it is actually interesting in the way it's argued yeah so obesity despite being of lower
00:32:16.680 socioeconomic status and intelligence obese people are much less likely about 20 to 25 percent per
00:32:24.180 5 bmi to commit violent property and drug crimes than their normal weight counterparts the evidence
00:32:30.460 isn't overwhelming you can't do an rct but there are plausible reasons such as lower testosterone and
00:32:38.820 the physical difficulty of committing crimes so let's note the lower testosterone here because a lot of
00:32:42.680 people don't know this that's obesity goes up your testosterone production decreases and testosterone
00:32:48.320 production is directly correlated with a person's likelihood of committing a crime over the past 40
00:32:53.840 years average bmi among young adults 18 to 25 increased by 4.5 points in the united states
00:32:59.920 without this it's reasonable to assume that crime rates would have increased further uh that is
00:33:05.900 fascinating that is really fascinating increase is wealth in the 21st century societies are vastly
00:33:11.780 wealthier than their 1950s counterparts to the extent that wealth causally reduces crime we would expect
00:33:19.120 crime to drop and then and this is the big one here sorry did you have something to say before i go
00:33:24.860 further no no no keep going i i love this this article super interesting
00:33:28.400 forensic technology and surveillance in the 21st century surveillance is ubiquitous and we have dna
00:33:37.720 evidence gps data and numerous other modern forensic tools it should be much harder to get away with
00:33:43.660 crimes today than it was in 1960 and since the vast majority of crime is committed by repeat criminals
00:33:49.520 who it should be easier to apprehend near the beginning of their sprees one would naively expect
00:33:55.060 this alone to be a reason for significant reduction in crime but clearance rates have instead plummeted
00:34:04.120 much easier for the typical criminal to get away with it how much worse would this be without
00:34:10.220 technological advances and here is one of the things that gets absolutely wild if you look at the rate
00:34:18.540 of prosecuted crimes okay from 2015 to 2022 it's just crashing like the police are basically not
00:34:29.320 prosecuting crimes anymore well and i think that's because a lot of the attorneys general
00:34:33.760 are saying stop they're telling them to give people an idea how big of a difference this is
00:34:40.040 from from 2015 to 2022 okay so this is the the clearance rates for various crimes so the total
00:34:46.820 number went from 17 to 6 assault without injury went from 16 to 3 assault with injury went from 25
00:34:57.060 to 5 public fear alarm or distress went from 26 to 3 shoplifting went from 36 to 14 harassment went from
00:35:08.500 28 to 4 stalking went from 35 to 5 it's basically not being prosecuted anymore if you look at something
00:35:17.000 like residential burglary 10 to 4 in every case it's more than a 50 drop in many cases you're talking
00:35:23.360 about like an 80 to 90 drop well and we had this realization when a crime was committed against
00:35:28.940 our business at one point and two years ago and it was we're like it was it was a pretty big deal and
00:35:36.400 we went to all the authorities to try to prosecute it and it was very like it was super clearly
00:35:43.180 documented tell them who did it we like had the name of the person we had this is like everything
00:35:47.980 yeah we had their bank details yeah and nothing happened couldn't get a single response and then
00:35:53.780 of course after hearing all these stories about you know people being stabbed in san francisco
00:35:57.360 regularly friends we know who lived there and things things of that sort we're like well okay so
00:36:02.440 we live in a world in which we cannot expect protection which is interesting because that feels
00:36:11.520 like it's the beginning of a collapse of society i mean isn't that what the government does
00:36:16.800 of a vehicle for example like if your car got stolen that went from nine percent to two percent
00:36:22.720 so it was already pretty low percent reduction and this is over a period of only um i want to say
00:36:30.680 seven years seven years it's like the mods are asleep and we haven't realized fully that they've
00:36:38.060 gone into sleep so society still kind of works but soon more and more people are going to start
00:36:45.820 exploiting this i it makes me nervous it does make me very nervous actually i really liked it in the
00:36:52.860 the asthma gold video where he was comparing what was happening at these restaurants he goes well you
00:36:57.420 know back in wow you know when you want a level you would go to you know outside the raid bosses because
00:37:02.160 there weren't the the big beds there and you could just farm xp and he goes and that's what these
00:37:06.940 people are doing they're just going out and farming xp on low level people are like they're not doing it in the
00:37:11.480 dangerous areas and he's like yeah of course like you're not gonna you're not they don't want to be
00:37:15.300 dangerous area you're gonna you can get the max xp for minimum danger you know and it smells good
00:37:20.740 and everyone is dressed nicely right them that not everybody can fit inside the restaurant that's why
00:37:26.280 you have these massive outdoor dining sheds like it's like no people do this in games right it's like
00:37:30.920 you go outside a dungeon and you farm the mobs outside the dungeon if you don't have a raid
00:37:34.680 like no i mean i get how it happens like it makes sense like and it's smart people did this
00:37:40.640 in scarlet monastery yeah exactly so i because there's like only one of them they're not as high
00:37:46.680 level that you don't have to go inside there yeah no of course try to steal two thousand dollars and
00:37:52.020 if you can steal two thousand dollars you're gonna try to steal five thousand dollars like duh
00:37:55.900 well of course you're leveling up yeah i mean if if i was a criminal i'd be like bro like
00:38:02.640 new patch we got a buff like let's go let's start farming all right so and this this gets
00:38:10.700 interesting as well so another reason the rate should be dropping if you're just looking at
00:38:13.720 broader statistics is aging every developed country has gotten significantly older since
00:38:17.880 the middle of the 20th that's true yeah of the age crime curve the vast majority of crime is committed
00:38:23.340 by young men this would be expected to drive crime down and i'm gonna put a graph on screen here
00:38:29.800 it is massively massively massively young men that can make the fact that climate disorder are several
00:38:36.060 times worse today than in the 1960s in most western societies albeit better than the 1990s
00:38:44.260 is a sign that something is very wrong now somebody might be like ultra low crime societies don't exist
00:38:51.000 and yet they do modern day singapore and japan are justifiably admired
00:38:56.660 for their extraordinarily low murder rates 0.1 out of 100k and 0.23 out of 100k respectively
00:39:03.400 and these murder rates reflect near zero levels of crime and disorder in society at large
00:39:08.980 this has massive benefits blue collar property and violent crime cost around 2.6 trillion dollars per year
00:39:15.840 about 12 percent of gdp in the united states 12 percent of gdp in the united states is going to cry
00:39:21.840 mind-blowing terrifying but this doesn't account for the massive lifestyle changes that people make
00:39:27.860 which simone was talking about earlier in japan and singapore you can go wherever you want alone
00:39:31.840 at night leave children unattended travel however you want no need to stick to sealed off cars leave
00:39:37.360 expensive possessions unsecure in public areas and live anywhere you can afford with corresponding cost
00:39:42.780 of living benefits no urban cores are hollowed out by crimes this means shorter commutes better
00:39:48.120 amenities and more efficient use of land but these two wealthy aged east asian societies are not the
00:39:55.380 only ultra low crime societies to exist mid-century england had about four times the homicide rate of
00:40:01.540 modern japan which given advances in medical care implies it had similar levels of crime and disorder
00:40:07.400 this was an average age of 34 15 years younger than the median japanese person today so to understand how
00:40:17.440 impressive the middle ages were or like middle-aged england right it had similar low crime rates but a much
00:40:26.040 younger population which should have made higher crime rates and it's not just england other parts of
00:40:33.280 post-war western europe also had extremely low levels of crime 1950 to 1974 uh this however i think
00:40:40.140 is cheesing it the middle ages okay i see that actually it's not cheesing it oh actually they both
00:40:45.620 had the same explanation war war is very good at reducing crime rates so of course i'm going to look
00:40:51.440 up to see if there's any statistics on this and i found one study that showed an 18 reduction in
00:40:56.480 amounts of crime during war times which is less than i expected to be honest this is actually something
00:41:02.400 that in the middle ages we see a monarchy talking about because right here he's like oh yeah post-war
00:41:07.800 united states the crime rates dropped it's like yeah because everybody who has like this criminal
00:41:11.960 sort of drive in them to go out and kill and mug and it's ultra aggressive ends up dying in wars
00:41:17.060 or getting it out of their system or turning it into a career you know but in the middle ages there
00:41:23.200 were periods where they went significant time periods without war and people noticed that crime rates
00:41:27.680 rose significantly during those periods so are you saying our solution is just just war should we
00:41:34.100 should we have hunger games but just for 20 something men yeah they'd do it they'd do it if
00:41:42.000 there were voluntary hunger games for 20 something men i get famous like on tiktok for doing it yeah
00:41:47.220 yeah yeah yeah yeah well i mean didn't mr beast get in trouble for the this whole like squid game
00:41:52.100 thing where a bunch of people went and did a bunch of stuff that i guess sounds really unpleasant but
00:41:57.300 because you know you could i'm sure i don't care i just want to watch a bunch of like angry 20 year
00:42:02.420 olds who might be stealing my car murder each other like i think that'd be fantastic i think they
00:42:07.080 would enjoy it too a lot of them a lot of people genuinely that is one thing i'm gonna push for
00:42:11.780 you know we have dual laws on the books in this country i would watch it it would all be
00:42:17.300 voluntary oh my gosh yeah is there research on whether duels when they were legal and there was
00:42:23.400 a system for them reduced i don't know we'll say like unstructured or spontaneous crime oh i'm
00:42:30.140 certain they did yeah i mean what are duels but like a structured excuse for a crime of passion
00:42:35.320 like oh you slept with my wife okay let's duel you know it wasn't even that would be like you dissed me
00:42:41.960 let's do this is often pretty bad post-war western european countries are among the safest on earth
00:42:51.020 comparable to much older much wealthier and much more forensically sophisticated modern japan
00:42:55.660 there's no technical reason why western european societies today shouldn't be this safe and reap the
00:43:01.080 benefits beyond a lack of will there is a reason there's genetic reasons like if they want to talk
00:43:06.560 about like hbd or whatever i mean we can talk about the white populations that my ancestors came
00:43:11.940 from in the united states and these were very murderous populations they murdery yeah famously
00:43:18.860 murdery and i think that what they might be confusing is looking at across america population
00:43:26.780 samples from these periods where certain communities in america during this time had
00:43:31.000 really low crime rates the puritan communities of new england had incredibly low crime rates uh the
00:43:37.480 german immigrant communities that like the midland areas and the quakers had low crime rates
00:43:41.900 but the greater appellation communities had really high crime rates there's there's one of my
00:43:47.480 favorites from american nations they were talking about how the there was like a class of men in
00:43:53.020 these communities that would sharpen their nails to be like i think that was actually an albion seed
00:43:57.980 maybe both of them talked about it where they took pride in yes having uniquely sharp nails so they
00:44:02.360 could gouge out people's eyes and brawls basically yeah yeah this is this is my eye gouging nail
00:44:09.080 this is my eye gouging finger so i couldn't find the exact quote from american nations just by googling
00:44:15.300 however i was able to find a fantastic vice article on this tradition titled rough and tumble the deeply
00:44:22.140 southern tradition of nose biting testicle ripping and eye gouging so and this is something that's been
00:44:27.840 largely forgotten that there was this really form of martial arts called rough and tumble that was
00:44:34.460 common in the greater appalachian region in america and just because this faction of american
00:44:39.940 culture was never a dominant cultural faction in terms of media production or involvement in the arts
00:44:47.000 we don't remember how common it was or how developed this method of fighting was i said to quote the
00:44:52.800 article here in 1806 englishman thomas ash wrote an account of his visit to wheeling virginia where
00:45:00.200 he witnessed a fight between two working class men that he would remember for the rest of his life
00:45:04.640 the men one from kentucky and one from virginia argued over who had a better horse a somewhat
00:45:09.580 standard debate in the booze-filled outskirts of small towns not willing to acquiesce to a difference
00:45:15.440 of opinion the men along with the englishman ash and a large portion of the town took off to a track
00:45:21.900 to test the speed of the two bees apparently the race was inconclusive but the two men unwilling to
00:45:27.560 end their feud challenged each other to a fight they agreed to quote tear and rend in quote rather
00:45:33.920 than quote unquote fight fair ash watched in astonishment as the virginian took the kentuckian
00:45:39.600 to the ground and from a mounted position grasped his hair and stuck his eyes down the man's eye
00:45:44.560 stockets but the kentuckian recovered and rolled the virginian off of him once on top the kentuckian
00:45:51.480 leaned over and bit the nose off the man for virginia but the fight was not over the man for
00:45:56.300 virginia took the kentuckian's lower lip between his teeth and ripped it down to its his chin then the
00:46:01.520 fight was over the man for virginia sans nose was carried off in victory while the kentuckian headed
00:46:07.060 to the doctor his eyes damaged from the attempted gouging and his torn lower lip lay flopping around his
00:46:13.240 chin this fight was not an anomaly but rather a tradition of fighting that was particularly
00:46:18.220 common in rural parts of the southern united states in the 18th century rough and tumble was the name
00:46:24.380 given to no holds bar fighting in the southeast region of the newly formed america betting was
00:46:29.740 prevalent and rules non-existent contestants could kick down an opponent knee to the groin bite and even
00:46:36.280 scratch each other with fingernails sharpened for just such a purpose eye gouging became the ultimate
00:46:40.920 finish in rough and tumble was men being disfigured for life fingernails sharpened filed and coated in
00:46:47.300 wax dug into an opponent's eye socket attempting to literally rip out the eyeball and hold it aloft
00:46:52.460 before a screaming crowd and i should note that while it calls it the south it wasn't really in
00:46:58.360 the south it was in the rural appalachian region which i'll put a thing on the screen here as you can
00:47:03.140 tell from the states being mentioned here and this was common and even people you've likely heard of like
00:47:09.120 davy crockett who once quote i kept my thumb in his eye and was just going to give it a twist and
00:47:16.160 bring the peeper out like a twist like taking a gooseberry in a spoon in quote the point i'm trying
00:47:21.520 to make here is that i think this aporia piece creates a narrative in which a person could come
00:47:26.840 to believe that well medieval england was a mostly peaceful place and so what led to america becoming as
00:47:35.360 dangerous as it is today is the allowing in of immigrants or people from different ethnic or
00:47:43.380 national backgrounds where what i'm trying to point out is at least some of the groups of americans
00:47:47.860 specifically the groups that i come from the greater appalachian cultural region was settled by an
00:47:54.560 extremely extremely violent subpopulation on the outskirts of the english empire and has always been
00:48:03.940 a level of violence that is almost incomprehensible to the dominant cultural groups that ended up
00:48:10.840 creating a lot of our literature and stuff like that another fun thing i'd note here and this is
00:48:17.440 from a cracked article that talks about these sorts of immigrants before they left england it was pretty
00:48:24.280 common for audiences in the late 1800s to early 1900s to pelt the performers with deadly objects singers
00:48:30.800 actors or comics had only moments to win over the audience and depending on whether your act was
00:48:36.900 bombing the crowd had their own way of trying to kill you in london they threw pig bones in glaslow it
00:48:42.680 was known for throwing steel rivets but as long as it hurt and left a funny wound savage crowds didn't
00:48:48.820 really care dead cats and dogs were flung at the performers which is almost as fascinating as it is
00:48:54.940 monstrous were the cats killed on the way to the show just in case the band sucked were dead cats sold
00:49:00.420 there how did man ever survive an era however brief were animal corpses were used as a dislike button
00:49:07.060 very different from uh they they took a lot they gained a lot of status from it it was a good way to
00:49:12.560 gain status is go and ah to have this gnarled grizzly nail that has eye gunk under it from somebody else
00:49:19.640 do you like this visual yeah i'm not i'm not all right so they argue a different reason that this
00:49:28.580 is happening then i argue which is war war is a good way to get rid of people but i actually don't
00:49:32.440 hate their argument i think it's probably a big contributor to this well can't both be true but
00:49:37.520 let's present their argument lock them up this starts fortunately crime is an exceptionally
00:49:44.020 tractable problem because the overwhelming majority of crime is committed by a tiny minority of very
00:49:49.480 prolific offenders citation for instance in sweden one percent of people are responsible for 63 percent of
00:49:55.860 violent crime and conviction citation when i say citation just go to the original article this is
00:49:59.860 coming from and you can read the citations with about half of all convictions being accounted for
00:50:04.780 by people with three or more previous convictions so i'm going to read that again so people can really
00:50:11.000 grok that okay one percent of people are responsible for 63 percent of violent crime convictions
00:50:17.740 with about half of all convictions being accounted for by people with three or more previous convictions
00:50:24.980 if you permanently like the three strikes law permanently locked anyone up with three convictions
00:50:31.680 you would reduce the number of the amount of crime by half or send them to simone's mercenary penal
00:50:38.800 colony i haven't given up we'll talk about our mercenary penal colony plans in a second
00:50:42.440 you could cut violent crime in half by simply executing or imprisoning for life people with many previous
00:50:49.560 offenses the united states is similar with more than 75 percent of people in u.s prisons having five or more arrests
00:50:57.480 75 percent of people in our prison alone people are like our prison system is like lax
00:51:03.360 or that it's imprisoning the wrong people this is just like factually not this also makes the prospect of
00:51:09.480 going to prison terrifying because this is people who are severely severely messed up or
00:51:16.780 yeah people in prison 75 percent of them have been arrested five other times do you know how hard
00:51:22.400 it is to get arrested five times well and the problem is that's not just them doing a bad
00:51:27.480 five times it's them getting caught five times so it's also just like this isn't these aren't the
00:51:32.940 smartest criminals i mean there are lots of people especially these days like anyone who's getting
00:51:37.860 to prison these days is well either they're committing you know like tax fraud or something
00:51:44.340 like yeah um they're not they're not actually you know what how many how many prior arrests people
00:51:50.400 have as a proportion of the prison population but it is absolutely enormous there are actually very
00:51:57.120 few people in prison that have only been arrested once when i say very few it looks like maybe like
00:52:02.020 three percent or two percent or something from this it is just rare to be in prison for only
00:52:07.680 having been arrested once yeah well but i think once you get arrested once it's it's kind of hard
00:52:12.800 to get reintegrated with society and you're more likely to get caught for more things but you know
00:52:18.320 yeah but what the point here being is that these individuals and also i just i mean there's something
00:52:25.440 about um the people who care for our kids have been in prison before and we're you know helping them get on
00:52:31.660 their feet like this happens like people help people that's the way the world is well and yeah
00:52:35.600 and it goes to show that like imprisonment happens and well also the circumstances that drive people
00:52:40.800 to commit crimes in some cases are genuinely out of their control and it just sucks like they've been
00:52:46.680 put well i mean you and i are determinists anyway you know we feel like everyone's kind of stuck in
00:52:52.060 their stupid place in the world's clockwork so yeah well yeah but that doesn't mean as a determinist i
00:52:57.880 believe people are responsible for their actions because their actions aren't due to random stuff
00:53:01.640 but due to their genetics and who they are and therefore who they are deserves full punishment
00:53:07.000 for anything they do um but to go further the same stylized fact whereby a teeny very criminal
00:53:13.600 minority commits the vast majority of crime also holds for non-violent offenses for instance 327 people
00:53:20.400 were responsible for a third of shoplifting arrests in new york city in 2022 327 people a third of
00:53:27.280 shoplifting arrests yeah i feel like there's some there's a movie concept in here you know the
00:53:32.000 320 they've been rearrested these 327 people 6 000 times
00:53:38.100 why are they still being released they probably just keep like a change of clothes in prison like
00:53:45.800 hey did you hold on to my toothbrush do you know like how much money hours it takes to arrest and
00:53:49.260 process a human being 6 000 times yeah that is a lot of taxpayer dollars they should just like keep a
00:53:56.320 locker for them these super criminals are well known to police by virtue of committing so many crimes
00:54:02.640 their guilt is not in doubt the only obstacles to executing or permanently imprisoning them
00:54:08.760 are legal and procedural most of these legal and procedural barriers citation were put in place
00:54:14.880 in the 1960s and 1970s citation as a natural consequence of politicians and judges citation
00:54:21.080 adopting a left-wing view of criminals as victims of society rather than the other way around i.e
00:54:27.920 because they believe that the criminals are just people who are in hard situations and can't get out
00:54:32.400 of it which isn't factually true these are people who have made crime intentionally their daily career
00:54:41.860 okay well and and that they specifically have been incentivized to do that they're doing that because
00:54:47.960 they're positively reinforced when they do it yeah if you it's our own fault doing it the rest of them
00:54:54.040 would stop yeah it's our own fault for making them into what they've become which is is is even worse
00:54:58.640 you know it's these could have been good people with jobs that help other people and because of the
00:55:05.960 way that we are prosecuting crimes we have driven them to be people who hurt other people when really
00:55:11.960 like i think a significant proportion of these people if not the majority of these people would
00:55:17.980 otherwise be doing stuff that helps other people ultimately it's yeah annoying remove these barriers
00:55:24.080 and return to punishing criminals quickly surely and harshly with a focus on incapacitation or
00:55:29.640 execution citation not rehabilitation and crime can be brought quickly under control and here they
00:55:36.900 have proof of this in el salvador so el salvador tried this it stopped trying to rehabilitate criminals
00:55:42.700 right here they say el salvador is an extraordinary recent example of this having reduced the murder rate
00:55:47.840 by 98 percent simply by locking up well-known gang members el salvador had the state capacity to do
00:55:56.440 this at any time and so do we all it takes is the willingness to jettison pro-criminal procedural norms
00:56:02.840 invented within the past 70 years when you can look here are you saying that like an executive order
00:56:07.960 could do this like i'm just trying to figure out from a legal standpoint because i mean there are
00:56:12.500 you know laws about unfair imprisonment stuff like that in the united states i am i was president
00:56:19.360 i i feel a lot of presidents are a little capitalist in the way they play the game
00:56:24.700 um if for example we got into a trump administration i could figure out how to make this happen
00:56:30.880 simone you underestimate the tools at the disposal there's some like well-known ones like i'm gonna
00:56:39.380 declare a state of emergency we're gonna call this war you know i get that i'm just wondering
00:56:44.560 other ones that are hugely underused you're just thinking like a bureaucrat because the people who
00:56:51.200 have tried to solve this before have always been bureaucrats and they haven't been ruthless people like
00:56:56.040 me you can see my video on uh getting addicted to chat ai bots for how i like to break systems
00:57:00.380 the easy one that the u.s president isn't using is his pardon power specifically you just say
00:57:07.320 for example blanket pardon on police doing certain things
00:57:12.260 on oh uh basically who as a president can make anything you like i will pardon i will remember
00:57:21.680 what what nation was it it was basically like any citizen now has the right to shoot someone who did
00:57:27.620 i can't remember what do you remember this she's thinking of the philippines and duterte i didn't
00:57:32.500 hear her say this i wasn't able to say this in the in the recording but yeah the philippines and
00:57:36.240 duterte said anyone involved with drug trafficking or drug use could be executed for example like
00:57:40.740 during this the some of the like banking crisis and stuff like that when it was obvious that the
00:57:44.740 heads of the bank had just screwed over tons and tons of people and we had no system for legally
00:57:48.780 handling it i probably would have just said anyone who kills these guys free party just like put out
00:57:55.380 a hit basically and uh yeah a promise oh god well i mean technically with the caveat here of course
00:58:04.040 that however they did it needed to make it a federal crime rather than a state crime because
00:58:08.220 the president cannot pardon people for state crimes also it should be clear here how lucky i am to have
00:58:13.620 somebody like simone to moderate my impulses in terms of severity one of our followers was like they
00:58:19.620 love that malcolm always gets angry and really aggressive about things but they also love that simone
00:58:24.240 is always talking me back from my extremist positions as she likely would if i ever actually
00:58:29.120 held office people are they may underestimate like yeah i mean so i guess i'm trying to think the
00:58:34.860 opposition would then try the opposition would try to impeach you and i think that there would be
00:58:38.960 enough powerful connections at play depending on who you're attacking no there wouldn't oh my god
00:58:43.000 if it's if it's the leaders of the banking industry in the united states if you took out after losing
00:58:49.840 billions of dollars and keep in mind billions of dollars you can translate dollars to death
00:58:53.620 yeah you remove i think it's something like i can't remember something like every half a million
00:58:58.980 dollars you remove from the economy somebody is dying functionally speaking because that money was
00:59:03.500 removed billions of dollars is killing more people than the biggest mass murderers in our country's
00:59:09.580 history it's 9 11 attacks style murders and this is done regularly by white collar criminals and they
00:59:17.780 need to understand that there are consequences for this uh in the same way that in china corruption is
00:59:24.160 sometimes punished with extreme you know executions and stuff like that and i think in the united states
00:59:29.140 these people just feel like there's no consequences their companies are so big the government's going to bail
00:59:34.280 them out blah blah blah they'll always be ultra wealthy no matter what no matter who they abuse no matter who
00:59:38.780 they hurt and you're like oh then the lefties would come and try and impeach you do you know how
00:59:44.560 effing bad that's going to look to the electorate if the lefties are standing up for the big bankers who
00:59:50.660 lost billions of dollars for the the individual americans who expected a golden parachute i know i'm just
00:59:59.860 saying that those really really wealthy bankers with a target on their backs have a lot of connections
01:00:05.520 that would be financially incentivized to try to impeach you as president right but what i think you are
01:00:14.080 missing because we have seen this as people who have played in the political space and have played in
01:00:18.720 the broader american like how to change the world space money does not give you that much power you you get
01:00:27.540 a marginal additional increase in power but the truth is is power i don't know man i think this may change
01:00:34.520 but the way that our elections work now i i do think that having more money is important no they
01:00:43.400 could go and and this is the problem that you're missing here right yeah so what you're assuming is
01:00:48.920 what the bankers are going to be able to do is go to politicians and say i gave you money in x campaign
01:00:55.780 listen to me and impeach them right here's the problem simone um most of the heads of the banking
01:01:02.340 system haven't been giving money to everyone they've been giving money to people in strategic
01:01:07.300 races party politics they just don't have the cachet you're like well maybe they could go to all of their
01:01:15.060 rich friends who do have the cachet but what you're missing here is that the rich friends who bought that
01:01:21.100 cachet did it with company dollars for company purposes so for example they can't go to the head of
01:01:28.300 shell and say use shells lobbying group to put pressure on them because shells lobbying group
01:01:34.700 exists for specific projects for specific reasons it's not a general in the pocket of the ceo lobbying
01:01:42.380 group okay they would find themselves very quickly with no power the only power that the ultra wealthy
01:01:49.140 have is in terms of blackmail i.e epstein other than that no and people are underestimating the
01:01:55.920 president's ability to make these kinds of massive changes now here's the challenge people are going
01:02:02.280 to say well what about false positives you can't be you can't just like go executing criminals
01:02:05.880 and this is the problem with executing criminals we make it too expensive in the united states
01:02:09.640 you get the you know all these retrials all of these you know death row stuff yeah i think that
01:02:14.620 the cost of executing someone is it's it's way way higher for life right oh yeah for sure by it by a long
01:02:21.500 shot i think like by many times over it's it's it's just punitive at this point which which really
01:02:26.280 means you know we need to develop and i think you know if elon gets this efficiency department down
01:02:32.100 we need to develop a more efficient form of mass execution you know for repeat repeat criminals of
01:02:40.080 violent crimes that's what i think and not for all crimes repeat violent criminals okay so what you want
01:02:45.500 to bring out the death the death vans the execution vans yes man that's what china does they use that
01:02:51.760 for like thought crime i think you need to be very clear this needs to whenever i hear thought crime
01:02:56.420 i just picture like a dead seat woman so bad but the the the the the violent crime when people hear
01:03:04.560 this what they're thinking about okay and this is really important is they're thinking about the
01:03:11.460 individual who might be executed and they're not thinking about the people that individual kills
01:03:16.280 or grapes or you know it's it's easy to say give that individual a second chance
01:03:23.760 when it's not your daughter who ends up getting graped as a result of that there was a case of this
01:03:31.660 where asmogold actually was was joking about this and he was like it's her fault that this happened to her
01:03:36.260 where this man murdered this girl's mother and then this girl went in with this like holier
01:03:41.400 than thou attitude of like oh i forgive everyone you know we need to learn to blah blah blah the
01:03:47.700 guy murders her as well she's just dumb as a bag of bricks and it's not just that they're dumb
01:03:53.000 they're dumb in a way that hurts other people when they insist on this persistent forgiveness policy
01:03:58.900 they end up putting other people my people my family at risk my daughter's at risk okay and as he was
01:04:07.700 saying is it not better that they're dying for their their because it's not just naivety what
01:04:14.440 are they putting other people's at life's at risk for they're putting them at risk so they can feel like
01:04:20.060 a good guy so they can feel like they are an uncomplicated protagonist and he's absolutely right about that
01:04:26.800 they are villainous in a way that is not as villainous as the murderers but it is high villainous
01:04:36.340 levels the degree to which they just don't care about the damage that they are causing they just
01:04:44.340 don't care about the girls who get graped because they insist on this forgiveness mindset for more color
01:04:51.420 on the case that was being mentioned here the case involved travis lewis who murdered sally snowden
01:04:57.720 mckay 75 during a burglary and then her daughters advocated for him to be released early from prison
01:05:05.920 citing her buddhist belief system and then gave him an employment and he ended up murdering her after she
01:05:14.600 fired him thinking that he was stealing money from her which he was and people can be like oh you know
01:05:20.560 how great is that yeah well what if she hadn't been the one who hired him what if it had been one of
01:05:23.980 my family members okay when you advocate for things like this when you advocate for these ultra lenient
01:05:29.800 policies around crime you are an accomplice to the murders that end up happening to facilitate
01:05:38.240 the masturbation of your ego or the i mean for example this is why you know if somebody has like
01:05:45.800 actually assaulted you you it's important to report this because by the time it gets reported
01:05:52.220 they've already done it to five other people on average right now um these people are repeat repeat
01:05:59.420 repeat repeat repeat offenders but anyway the reason why people are afraid of this oh think of the
01:06:04.720 criminal they're afraid of false positives right so then it goes on to say the most common objection to
01:06:09.600 quicker sure harsher sentencing and especially the death penalty is that it will lead to more innocent
01:06:14.080 men being punished on utilitarian grounds this might be justifiable citation but people tend to be
01:06:21.600 suspicious of this sort of reasoning fortunately however a stricter regime does not necessarily
01:06:26.880 imply more false positives for the following reasons one most crime is committed by well-known
01:06:32.920 prolific criminals when dealing with someone who's already committed dozens of assaults you're not at risk
01:06:38.440 of accidentally punishing an innocent man these people's guilt is not substantively in doubt the fact
01:06:45.280 that they are free to commit crimes to begin with is damning lower crime rates mean more resources can be
01:06:53.200 devoted to each crime the american system cannot afford to exhaustively investigate and prosecute more
01:06:59.760 than a tiny fraction of crimes leading to a reliance on plea bargains if american crime rates were 4x lower
01:07:05.700 as they were two generations ago we could afford to be much more careful when dealing with each
01:07:10.720 individual crime three lower crime rates mean fewer absolute false positives imagine that the japanese
01:07:17.300 justice system had 10 times the false positive rate of the american the united states has around 50 times
01:07:23.480 the murder rate of japan so japan would still have only one half the number of false convictions per
01:07:29.300 murder per capita as such a quicker sure harsher criminal justice regime would be expected to lead
01:07:37.360 to fewer false positives not more it may be better that 10 guilty men go free than one innocent man be
01:07:42.700 punished but that's why we should be tougher on crime so be harsher and i do agree with this on repeat
01:07:51.320 criminals and i would even be willing like if i was president and i was pushing for a bill
01:07:55.220 i'd be willing to push for a bill that or a governor because really you have to do this at the state
01:08:01.120 level that lowered the punishment for the most severe crimes in our society i.e made it so that
01:08:08.220 you don't get the death penalty for premeditated murder but increase the punishment for multiple
01:08:13.980 violent crimes i.e you do get the death penalty as soon as you've been implicated in three assaults
01:08:22.100 and if you did that the reduction in crime would be astronomical but i think with these extreme
01:08:27.920 types of punishments you one have to be very clear they have to be violent crimes okay and two you have
01:08:34.180 to be very clear that they must be repeated violent crimes but as soon as you get a repeat of violent
01:08:39.700 crime you're just going to get it over and over again and there is really nothing you can do about
01:08:45.340 these individuals and i loved asthma gold's reaction to how to solve crime in new york and i like this as
01:08:51.200 well one make it easy to get the the concealed carry permanent in new york and two make it legal
01:08:58.620 you know how in the u.s and pennsylvania and stuff like that we have stand your ground laws and i'd
01:09:02.060 actually push that you are allowed to shoot a fleeing suspect if they have robbed you um because
01:09:09.280 right now in most states even states with stand your ground laws and stuff like that if you were able
01:09:12.640 to shoot them when they ran away it'd be no problem that's what you should be able to do i think
01:09:19.340 if somebody tries to rob you you should be able to shoot them absolutely can't shoot someone fleeing
01:09:25.420 in my opinion if you're stealing somebody's shit and you're running off with it and somebody shoots
01:09:30.580 you nice shot if somebody comes and they rob you or they steal your car or they you know as soon as
01:09:35.860 they're back in turn and they're running away with what they stole you can't do anything about it
01:09:39.180 um because you cannot shoot their they're like is their life worth less than the stuff they stole from
01:09:44.640 you and i'm like yeah it is it is because it's not just the stuff they stole from me it's the crimes
01:09:49.740 they're going to commit in the future especially if they're doing this knowing that people might
01:09:53.800 defend themselves and i think that what people are missing here and this is also i want to say true
01:09:59.040 of not just this but i want to say grapes you are allowed to shoot a grapist when they are leaving
01:10:03.800 your house it doesn't matter that they have their back turned to you i think that we are way too much
01:10:08.940 of a stickler on that point i think that there are certain crimes that so i feel where this gets
01:10:13.320 difficult is i could just shoot a random guy who may have been you know alone in my house there's no
01:10:20.920 witnesses there's no cameras there's no nothing and be like oh yeah he tried to rape me not tried to
01:10:27.560 oh sorry he did rape me but like but this is the point here is you just make then the the the
01:10:34.180 the justification of proof really high and you're like that would never work but actually it does work
01:10:38.680 you can do rape kits pretty easily okay so i i i seduce a guy i i voluntary sex does not create
01:10:46.540 the same terror patterns rape creates you can tell the difference with a rape kit so no and generally
01:10:53.580 speaking where these instances would come into play is people robbing someone in public or graping
01:10:59.320 someone in public or you know you you just these wouldn't be focused on these like oh maybe maybe not
01:11:07.500 incidences you would write it into law where it's very like maybe you have to have multiple witnesses
01:11:12.460 or something like that but i think that we need to be much harsher in both the ability to allow people
01:11:18.480 to react to crimes and this this mindset of well but you know they're not currently in the act of
01:11:26.240 committing the crime or blah blah blah a you know all of this nonsense where in like in australia this
01:11:31.820 has happened where criminals have been able to sue landlords because they've gotten hurt on their
01:11:35.320 property while they were stealing stuff oh well they're no that happened to the u.s too yeah it's
01:11:40.840 happened in some u.s states we need to create laws that strip someone of human rights while they are
01:11:48.420 committing crimes if it is unassailable that they are committing a crime and and and specifically here
01:11:54.860 i mean property crimes and violent crimes and and i think that where i am very strong in my
01:12:02.820 delineation of crime types when i say property crimes i'm going to be clear here property crimes
01:12:08.000 against individuals so i do not think that companies should have the right to do this you
01:12:12.940 wouldn't steal a handbag you wouldn't steal a car you wouldn't steal a baby you wouldn't shoot a
01:12:18.920 policeman and then steal his helmet downloading films is stealing if you do it you will face the
01:12:27.520 consequences but i think individuals if it's your car if it's your house but if a warehouse is being
01:12:37.720 broken into or a store is being broken into i don't think that the use of lethal force is justified
01:12:42.280 but i think that once you create these laws it becomes much easier i would would i say for
01:12:50.100 sole proprietorships yes for sole proprietorships i'd say lethal like so i.e i own a shop all by myself
01:12:56.140 or my family owns a shop that's different from a chain owned store or something like that
01:13:00.280 and i'd also say that these crimes differ as well from intellectual crimes like i.e intellectual
01:13:07.820 property theft and stuff like that which is really about corporate profits and not about specifically
01:13:13.220 targeting individuals which is just you know a ridiculous thing to me and i think that as a society
01:13:19.140 we have normalized the targeting of individuals at this point for a specific class of people they just
01:13:24.960 don't have any shame in doing this
01:13:26.720 but thought simone
01:13:30.400 well i don't know if i do exactly what you suggest but yeah i mean something needs to be done i i i you
01:13:39.880 know i'm still for penal colonies i really hate the idea of describe your colony idea of well if someone
01:13:45.660 can't play nice with society here as it is then just ship them off to somewhere where they're around
01:13:52.060 other rule breakers like them and they can all break rules together and that's that's my idea i i feel
01:13:57.240 like it's to me it feels a lot more fair i have your penal colony for profit idea yeah my penal colony for
01:14:03.540 profit idea is for those who participate in this system and would like to also have an interesting
01:14:10.340 life with maybe some some higher upside benefits join a penal colony that also serves as a mercenary unit
01:14:17.020 where you know you you go and you then become a mercenary basically she wants to create like
01:14:23.580 floating cities or isolated parts in like northern alaska where everyone there is a repeat offender
01:14:31.200 but they are able to try to create structure of life for themselves yeah i.e start businesses
01:14:37.820 run things etc yeah they just can't leave the location yeah this becomes really important for people
01:14:44.480 addicted to certain types of drugs really important for repeat offenders because it creates a system
01:14:48.900 where they don't need to be executed and always have a chance of rehabilitation well and you know for
01:14:53.860 some people i kind of think about it similarly to different types of kids right like a lot of kids
01:14:59.880 you know a stern talking to is enough to you know sit them in the corner or just tell them that
01:15:04.940 it's it's not okay and let's have let's talk about how you hurt my feelings you know and other kids
01:15:09.160 like ours respond to bops right you know like knock it off slap upside the head and i feel like a lot
01:15:16.060 of people need a bop based society you know they don't respond to this you hurt my feelings based
01:15:22.220 society that we live in and therefore they need to be moved to a bop based society where there are
01:15:28.120 you know public hangings and there's the whipping post in the square and in that world they will do a lot
01:15:33.720 better and i just you know like it's sort of you can sort for people who need that more extreme form
01:15:38.920 of punishment and if they all live together in society it might be a sufficiently ordered society
01:15:43.480 well at the same time you're not really subjecting those who don't need that form of punishment
01:15:47.840 to what would for them be overly cruel and genuinely terrible and unwarranted and not effective so you know i
01:15:55.220 i sort of see i see discipline in that way like similar to the way we look at family-based discipline
01:16:02.860 which is look at the people look at their inherited traits look at their culture and give them what
01:16:08.020 they need all right love you too gorgeous
01:16:12.900 which one next uh the disappearing child in the city oh what okay that sounds scary
01:16:24.260 okay okay i'm sending it shortly and recording somebody tweeted at us an image saying is this a
01:16:32.320 techno puritan click over on whatsapp and you'll see what okay you click over on whatsapp
01:16:38.380 i linked to their tweet there
01:16:42.020 yes
01:16:46.600 yes
01:16:48.920 i'll put it i'll put it i'll put it in the episode at the end that's a cute tweet
01:16:58.620 it is made me laugh and lulled oh i've gotta get the notes up so we're ready to go
01:17:07.900 i'm so stiff in in like personal situations that there was this period where i caught myself just saying
01:17:18.400 lull when i thought something was funny in social situations and i was like oh whoops i forgot i need
01:17:24.700 to performatively laugh instead of just say lull we need to practice i need you to develop better
01:17:33.740 social skills
01:17:34.600 all right all right
01:17:38.640 that's good
01:17:50.020 that's good
01:17:50.640 you
01:17:50.800 that's good
01:17:52.880 but i think that that's a big question
01:17:55.640 right