Based Camp - December 16, 2024


We Raised a Generation of Hikikomori: Gentle Parenting Failed Gen Alpha


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 1 minute

Words per Minute

180.88739

Word Count

11,089

Sentence Count

32

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

In this episode, Simone and I discuss the alarming statistics regarding the state of mental health in our generation, and how this is a direct result of the lack of hardship, discipline, and boundaries that we are giving our children. We discuss the impact of a lack of these things on our children's mental health, and what we can do about it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone! Today's episode is going to be an interesting topic, or we are going to be going over
00:00:05.140 new statistics on just how bad mental health is for the youth of this coming generation.
00:00:12.300 It is worse than even the previous statistics may have indicated. What is likely causing it,
00:00:17.960 I think a lot of people blame it on social media. Oh, the phone. I'm so done with that. Enough.
00:00:25.220 The stats just don't agree with this. And it's not even an issue of the stats. I can look to my
00:00:31.780 generation and look at who was the early adopters of intense social media usage, like myself and my
00:00:38.800 friend group, and they actually had much higher mental health outcomes than the groups that were
00:00:44.580 not using social media. So what we should not have seen is the individuals who were most using social
00:00:50.500 media first with better mental health than the individuals who abstained from it in the early
00:00:56.120 days. I think that this is downstream of something entirely different, specifically the lack of
00:01:03.160 hardship, discipline, and boundaries that we are giving to young people. And the stats we're going
00:01:08.660 to go over that are shocking. Just to give you an example of like two that we're going to go over,
00:01:13.840 78% of parents in 2024 are practicing gentle parenting. 78% by one study, 74% by
00:01:20.480 a different study. That is terrifying if it's as bad as I suspect it is. Are you going to share that
00:01:28.020 clip that you shared with me on WhatsApp last night? Because that was terrifying.
00:01:32.180 She could be the next president. I think some people may assume when they hear me telling stories
00:01:38.300 about how when I lightly discipline a child in public, like even scolding them, I get accosted by
00:01:43.740 people. And in this video, I think I'm pretty vindicated. You can see that any sane person would think
00:01:49.200 this kid needs to be disciplined. But when people try to just restrain the child, other people are
00:01:55.080 threatening to call the cops on them. And then in a different instance, yelling, you don't know what
00:02:00.060 she's been through.
00:02:00.820 they don't know what it is, they're doing. Ooh.
00:02:18.300 Oh, you're feeling it, right?
00:02:21.360 I didn't even let her go.
00:02:51.360 Oh my god, the little girl who's like storming the store and like they want like my kids doing
00:03:21.280 that and I like discipline them and everyone's like how could you yeah no that's the crazy thing is I
00:03:25.980 feel like you have caught more open animosity and public criticism for punishing our children's
00:03:33.100 bad behavior that was orders of magnitude lower than that but still bad still openly bad and
00:03:39.060 annoying than that girl's parents were getting in that moment in Walmart as she was literally
00:03:46.140 throwing bottles of sparkling beverage onto the ground and having the glass shatter and having
00:03:51.780 liquid go everywhere this was yeah her parents were getting less of a public freak out than I get
00:03:57.440 for not even yeah not even you know just being like no we're leaving now yeah these parents want
00:04:05.660 their kids to not experience anger at all I'm realizing you had to end the cycle of abuse
00:04:11.500 how yeah they were like in the cycle and I was like how would how is that gonna help the kids
00:04:15.840 I love it when they're like you know if you don't do this with your kids and they won't do it with
00:04:19.460 theirs do you really want them to act this way towards their kids I was like yes obviously please
00:04:25.480 I know yeah like do do I think that an evolved emotion anger it's supposed to communicate to
00:04:30.940 other people that kids are not supposed to see that that that's gonna like be well let's go to what
00:04:35.500 what happened from this because it was a secondary phenomenon that layered on top of this
00:04:39.820 which created a generation of American hikikomores and this secondary phenomenon was what happened
00:04:46.880 during COVID the completely unjust and horrifying school closures that individuals lost their jobs
00:04:53.900 and careers campaigning against like the lady who was next in line to be CEO of Levi's and they
00:04:59.780 canned her because she said this is disproportionately hurting poor children by the way all the stats say
00:05:04.780 she was right she clearly was everyone knows she was right everyone knows she was right
00:05:09.020 the virus the cordyceps virus the urban monoculture is horrifying it does not care about the damage it
00:05:16.180 causes but I want to read some quotes from an article that I thought was really interesting
00:05:20.280 called ghost children the pupils who never came back after lockdown and this is from the spectator
00:05:24.760 because after lockdown happened there was this presumption that like we open up again
00:05:29.280 and everyone comes back and it just didn't happen like a huge chunk of the population just didn't come back
00:05:37.040 and we'll go over the stats on this but here are some anecdotal quotes from what's going on in the school
00:05:44.240 system right now from the perspective of people was in it a school counselor told me that countless kids
00:05:48.840 sent to him for help fall into two groups either they are so crippled by anxiety or depression
00:05:55.280 they cannot leave the house or they are angry and bitter out on the streets and into crime and gangs
00:06:01.720 one 14 year old girl told me I just sit in my room it's an awful feeling like really scary and lonely
00:06:08.440 a 16 year old boy I met on stream stream street street hoodie pulled up over his afro said
00:06:15.240 I'm upset I lost so much learning I'm stressed I don't get the grades I need for college
00:06:20.880 in the last full school term the autumn of 2019 shortly before the start of the pandemic
00:06:27.380 just 60,202 pupils were defined as severely absent that is spending more time out of classrooms than in them
00:06:35.620 since then despite schools opening this number has shot up now over 140,000
00:06:41.720 it went from 60,000 to 140,000 more than doubling children are classified as severely absent
00:06:47.920 according to the analysis of official figures by the CSJ that's a 134 percent the increase of closing
00:06:55.800 down 140 schools despite recent efforts the numbers are continuing to surge children are turning their
00:07:02.640 backs on education at an alarming pace warms the CSJ and here I will put a graph on screen of the number
00:07:08.120 of kids who aren't coming back to schools what is interesting is that a lot of people want to blame
00:07:12.420 this just on COVID but if you actually were to graph this you can see the logarithmic increase
00:07:18.420 beginning in 2017 and really going up in 2019 long before COVID the gentle parenting book it came out
00:07:26.240 in 2016 so just consider that alongside this graph but it's not just the usual suspects ghost children
00:07:34.140 also exist among the high achieving middle classes one teacher in a London suburb at an all-girls
00:07:39.300 school rated quote-unquote outstanding by Ostfed told me the mental health issues among my girls
00:07:45.680 it's a pandemic in itself a third of my pupils only turn up intermittently this is at an expensive
00:07:51.560 all-girls private school a third of the students are only turning up intermittently 30 girls have
00:07:57.700 actually gone how can parents tolerate this I mean it's one thing I get like if it's public school and
00:08:03.040 you're not really okay before the pandemic the school expected many of these girls to go to
00:08:10.660 university and enjoy a career but lockdown the teacher said totally derailed their plans their
00:08:16.280 parents would say their characters have changed they are a different person now the pandemic has
00:08:21.540 diminished their life chances and here I note again you see this trend before the lockdown I think
00:08:27.400 this is more downstream of gentle parenting than just COVID I think it's accumulation of COVID and
00:08:33.940 gentle parenting and the real mimetic viruses that are sweeping through this generation I think parents
00:08:40.000 just don't understand what it's like to have mental viruses that are this overwhelming this fascist in
00:08:45.580 the way they impose themselves I mean it used to be the kids were scared because they go to school that
00:08:51.400 had like these judeo-christian value systems that they felt they didn't measure up to or they felt
00:08:58.480 judged them and they saw this as a horror the problem is is now they go to schools and those schools are
00:09:05.120 controlled by like three extremely aggressive cults that are like sending your kids to a school
00:09:11.500 controlled by scientologists when we were kids I don't know scientologist kids seem to go to really
00:09:17.140 cool private schools I'm just saying there was that one scientologist school that looked like a castle
00:09:21.020 and no these places are pretty horrifying but I I if you look at the stats on them the the the point
00:09:26.680 that I'm making is that the urban monoculture is so much more totalitarian and fascist in how it
00:09:31.860 implements its value system than the Christians ever were when they were the culturally dominant faction
00:09:37.160 and the horror that the kids go through growing up in a country that really is a dystopian
00:09:42.700 a fascist state run by a cult is horrifying especially if they don't have support back home and they do not
00:09:50.680 and and support what support looks like is uh austerity and discipline it's not I love you and
00:09:56.860 I support whatever you're doing and we'll get to why that causes a lot of these problems now to anyone
00:10:00.920 here who wants to be like oh but the studies show gentle parenting works I would one ask you to just
00:10:07.300 exercise common sense and to point out the other video we made the scientists lied about spanking which
00:10:13.480 goes into the cover-up of a bunch of studies where they basically faked the data in the 80s by not
00:10:20.400 doing matching results to make it look like spanking was causing negative effects on children
00:10:25.360 when we now know that it doesn't in the large meta studies that have been done recently like the
00:10:30.240 paper in 2023 parental punishment don't throw the baby out with the bathwater so for anyone who's like
00:10:36.580 oh look at the studies I'm like oh look at common sense if you reward negative behavior with attention
00:10:42.740 you are going to get more negative behavior and hypersensitize kids to negative stimuli here or just
00:10:48.400 look at like basic anecdotal evidence so here is a piece that somebody wrote in the collegian and
00:10:53.760 I'll quote from it when I nannied for millennial parents who raised their kids was quote-unquote
00:10:57.840 gentle parenting philosophy I saw disastrous results this family was entirely based on communication
00:11:03.300 this meant for every negative or positive emotion one of the kids had I would walk through it with
00:11:08.400 them I became the emotional regulator for three children under age eight rather than administering
00:11:13.560 consequences for bad behavior I found myself trying to reason with a three-year-old having a tantrum
00:11:18.300 after reminding him that throwing blocks at his sister was not kind now to keep going her school is not
00:11:24.600 alone absence is now a feature of school life just under two million pupils one in four of all school
00:11:31.420 children are classified as persistently absent i.e. have an attendance rate of less than 90 percent
00:11:36.720 so one in four are attending school less than one out of 10 days wow double pre-pandemic levels
00:11:43.840 the teacher explained that one single mother has had to give up her job to concentrate full-time on
00:11:50.220 coaxing her daughter back into school despite the fact she is the breadwinner so it means real financial
00:11:55.240 hardship wait so the mom who was the breadwinner of the family quit her job I guess the dad's not in
00:12:01.200 the picture it sounds like a dad or boyfriend is in the picture and the mom was supporting them
00:12:05.280 to try to because the male wasn't doing anything to try to force her kid back into school
00:12:10.560 dude you'll you just force why don't you drop them off and you're like good luck well we'll talk about
00:12:19.920 why the kids aren't doing this and what it's like to be around these kids because they they're really
00:12:23.160 afraid of any sort of like negative stimuli even though bullying rates have not increased bullying
00:12:27.740 rates are still at around 20 percent and you know what we really need here is the clip from futurama
00:12:31.760 most perhaps all the blame rests with the parents have you ever tried simply turning off the tv
00:12:39.140 sitting down with your children and hitting them because I know this mom hasn't considered that
00:12:45.760 if your home is not like if my kid knows oh yeah I don't go home during the day because I'm gonna get
00:12:51.880 my butt whooped they'll understand the situation they're like oh yeah school is preferable now that
00:12:57.480 said we actually plan to homeschool our kids and I am concerned by how much my kid is enjoying school
00:13:01.540 because yeah we're never gonna force our kids into homeschool if they want to do kindergarten they get
00:13:08.540 to do kindergarten or they get to do public school or whatever well I always want public school to be
00:13:12.540 the punishment by that what I mean is if they're falling behind in their homeschooling it's public
00:13:15.840 school not a I took you out of public school so I could homeschool you yeah well and public school is not
00:13:22.440 considered their education it's considered an extracurricular so like it's it's like going to
00:13:27.560 soccer camp we wouldn't consider soccer camp your source of math education ever just like we wouldn't
00:13:34.240 consider public school your source of math or any education so yeah all right one girl told me her
00:13:39.940 geography tutor had been really helpful but that she had barely heard from the English staff at all
00:13:45.620 a boy described the impact of school indifference on his mood the teachers didn't mark the work I had
00:13:51.320 completed not once he says was no feedback this clever and competitive boy lost motivation
00:13:57.020 confined to his room he started to listen to rap music which fueled his frustration and rage when
00:14:02.480 school reopened it was only the intervention of his parents and months of counseling that turned him
00:14:08.200 around I was scared I had lost myself forever and become a different version of myself they're just
00:14:13.880 losing they're losing hope the viruses the mimetic viruses that are spreading that the cult is pushing on
00:14:19.540 them thrive by breaking their connection to their families but the families themselves aren't
00:14:24.500 providing the environment that they need they're not providing the discipline they need they're not
00:14:28.620 because that's what's needed to relate to the harsh world we live in these kids act like it's like the
00:14:34.120 hardest time in history and I'm like go read about what it was like being a kid during like
00:14:38.280 the the yellow fever epidemic or like scarlet fever or like any of the the past the the great
00:14:45.740 depression in the united states you live an unimaginably cushy life your friends aren't
00:14:51.000 like dying and they're sleeping most young people they haven't even seen a dead body
00:14:55.120 like and that would have been normal before and it is horrifying to me the cocoon has created a
00:15:04.820 hypersensitivity around negative stimuli for these children and it is really and we'll go into this more
00:15:11.800 but you know we talk about all the times that like we go viral for punishing our kids to any extent
00:15:16.300 and they're very light punishments that we've gone viral for like we do not like heavily punish our
00:15:21.400 kids or anything like that I think that that's like totally unnecessary the pain should never be the
00:15:25.160 point of a punishment it should be the disapproval and a way to show that they did something wrong
00:15:31.600 without necessarily emotionally escalating and this is unfortunately when I had to punish the kid when
00:15:37.380 they're like oh you got angry at him that was because I was afraid to hit the kid in front of other
00:15:40.260 parents because I was like shit I'm gonna so I have to get angry with him because emotional escalation
00:15:44.620 was the only way to show him he had messed up if it was at home I wouldn't have gotten angry at him
00:15:49.040 I just would have been like bop okay like let's talk about this like what did you do wrong what are
00:15:55.260 you not going to do in the future without emotionally escalating the situation but it's forced to in that
00:15:59.360 environment I should note here there are the big difference between kids and not all kids need
00:16:03.780 corporal punishment to be the way that they are disciplined however all children do need some form of
00:16:10.240 discipline something in their life that when they step over a boundary isn't somebody calmly sitting
00:16:16.740 down next to them and talking it through them but some sort of negative feedback some sort of anger or
00:16:23.120 genuine disapproval and exclusion because if they don't learn how to deal with that as a kid they will
00:16:30.460 not be able to deal with it in high school or in their adult lives and they turn into these hikikomori
00:16:36.480 which we're seeing an entire generation turn into it is infinitely more abusive to your child
00:16:42.620 to not ever expose them to negative stimuli than even to expose them to fairly over-the-top negative
00:16:50.380 stimuli I think Simone what you're missing here is as soon as a kid is allowed to hypersensitize
00:16:56.680 to negative emotional stimuli they can't be around them at all and so you can go home and say like hey
00:17:04.600 you know two months of counseling to get them back to school hey you know you should go back to school
00:17:08.540 you should but if they're already hypersensitized to anyone disapproving of them to anyone being angry
00:17:14.020 at them how are they going to survive in a school environment right I think the more the way I see
00:17:20.160 it in the way I've seen so many things like this and experienced it too is everything is a muscle
00:17:26.120 and so if you allow someone's social muscles leaving the house muscles dealing with adversity
00:17:32.660 muscles to atrophy to the extent that our modern society and parenting norms allow them to atrophy
00:17:38.600 you're going to end up with severely kind of like those children those feral children who grew up and
00:17:45.340 never learned how to speak and then finally they get rescued and people try to give them language and
00:17:50.520 they can't like they never really develop language skills yeah I think that's happening with some
00:17:55.980 forms of resilience and inhibitory control now I think we're seeing the the the equivalent in terms
00:18:02.440 of mental fortitude of different types and ability to focus and all these other things of feral children
00:18:09.400 in a whole generation yeah and I think that parents when they're thinking about like what am I
00:18:15.520 attempting to do like when we look at parenting I used to be like everyone should parent in their own way I am
00:18:20.280 now no longer like no one should be gentle parenting I just think it's a bad philosophy
00:18:23.960 and I I think that parenting without discipline is obviously going to be incredibly hurtful to the
00:18:29.800 kids and your goal as a parent is to stoke the fire of the child's will as much as possible their
00:18:37.260 ambition there and that's what these children don't have the fire that lights their insides yeah
00:18:42.200 yeah yeah that that is an interesting thing that accompanies the avoidance and the fear is also
00:18:49.480 this intense ennui where ennui is not a good enough word it's lying flats better you know but that just
00:18:57.560 zero drive or interest a deep depression yeah I wouldn't even say it's depression because depression
00:19:03.300 rates are not that much higher we'll get to this in a second a lot of other mental health issues are but
00:19:06.760 depression is around 20 which is what it was historically note I was wrong about this depression rate
00:19:11.200 shut up a ton the past 10 years it's just that they were relatively stable until about the past 10
00:19:16.560 years this is specifically in young people oh but what I'm associating with depression here is just that
00:19:21.300 lack of drive to do anything you can get yeah not real like clinical depression but like
00:19:25.620 but it's it it looks different than clinical depression it is ennui is a better word for it as you said
00:19:31.560 but the way I would word it best it's a lack of fire and in a recent episode we described the
00:19:36.840 pronatalist movement as cucking society and I think that that's all our goals not to cuck society
00:19:41.500 in the way that people do even sexually speaking but I'd say because as we pointed out in that episode
00:19:46.500 everyone with under 2.1 kids is being cucked by the people with over 2.1 kids because functionally
00:19:51.860 you're contributing to a future you're paying taxes to help raise genetic material that's going
00:19:56.380 to replace you intergenerationally speaking um but if you watch cuckoo chicks it's really like
00:20:03.800 dramatic because they're much larger than even like the parents that are feeding them so like
00:20:08.800 the cuckoo chicks you know after they starve all the other little chicks in the nest they'll be like
00:20:13.700 twice the size of the parent that is feeding them and this is the way I feel that you as a
00:20:21.240 pronatalist need to be raising your kids will to be it needs to be their soul their fire inside of them
00:20:28.300 they need to look like a little cuckoo chick when the the teacher is pathetically trying to feed them
00:20:33.740 when the school system is pathetically attempting to discipline them in their weak weak way where they
00:20:40.240 look weak and pathetic and tawdry next to this big burly will of a child cuckoos are brood parasites that
00:20:48.760 trick smaller birds into raising their chicks in this video a larger cuckoo chick is being fed by a
00:20:55.560 smaller foster parent that mistakenly believes it's its own offspring because we have to replace them
00:21:02.360 their weakness leads to immorality see our episode on weakness and immorality and frederick nietzsche
00:21:08.900 because that's what's downstream of allowing this to spread and metastasize we have to replace them
00:21:15.840 and that is done through fostering your children's will not through breaking it and that's this is
00:21:23.000 another thing where i'm like punish your kids but do not punish them to break their will punish them
00:21:28.000 because you want them acting up in the type of way where they frequently need to be punished i think
00:21:33.920 that this is a big difference between us and other parents where other parents punish their kids so that
00:21:38.840 they eventually no longer have to punish them where i punish my kids so that i have a unique way of
00:21:44.340 showing them where boundaries are so they can explore breaking boundaries more often while knowing
00:21:50.200 very clearly when they have now to go back to the article young people moving on to sixth form
00:21:57.660 college are particularly vulnerable a teacher in northeast of england says she has noticed the
00:22:03.200 disappearance of a small number of 16 to 17 year olds from lessons they enrolled in the sixth form in
00:22:08.960 september but i have never seen them she says parents always give me the same reason for the children's
00:22:14.460 absence their mental health is too fragile for them to attend class parents are at a loss and
00:22:19.700 teachers are instructed by the authorities to not pursue an absence if it is for mental health
00:22:24.320 reasons we are told to just leave it be you hope the services are there in the background but we all
00:22:30.120 know they aren't let me ask you all something do you consider yourselves to be happy i don't think
00:22:37.740 i'm very happy i always fall asleep to the sound of my own screams right you see the reason that you
00:22:45.060 and then i always get woken up in the morning by the sound of my own screams do you think i'm unhappy
00:22:49.200 oh boy okay huh that's i did not expect that no it is bad it is bad bad bad bad bad bad bad i'd
00:22:59.500 actually say like as i look more into the mental health stuff and people would be like oh but don't
00:23:03.740 you know the studies say that gentle parenting is good and i'm like yeah and all the studies showed
00:23:07.440 that spanking was bad in the 80s and then when we rerun them without bad uh fudge data it turns out
00:23:13.120 that the big meta studies on this the most recent studies on this are like okay actually it's good
00:23:16.760 or or non-effect and they're not controlling for genetic effects so of course that means highly
00:23:21.420 good so the the these studies i just don't buy like if you look at the basic psychology of this
00:23:27.460 of course if you shield a child from negative stimuli they're going to hypersensitize to it
00:23:32.000 duh is that not what we're seeing what i hadn't realized is how big the number of parents were who
00:23:37.240 were doing this and that it really is explanatory of a lot of what's going on more so than even the
00:23:42.560 covid lockdowns because as you can see the problem started before the covid lockdowns
00:23:45.860 yeah i'll correlate this with when gentle parenting got popular as well the gentle parenting book it
00:23:51.760 came out in 2016 so just consider that alongside this graph but anyway meanwhile the csj report makes
00:23:58.780 it clear oh by the way did you have anything you want to say about the the fragile mental health
00:24:02.580 of kids that they're talking about here just in contrast having just finished hannah's children
00:24:08.120 that amazing prenatalist book i am thinking about the resilience and service done to kids who are in
00:24:15.740 larger families because they simply by existing with so many other siblings are given responsibility
00:24:24.020 are given the opportunity to be selfless are given challenges are given first austerity in many cases
00:24:31.040 that makes them resilient and makes them into much better people and all these descriptions in the
00:24:36.640 interviews that take place in this book of teens are of people who absolutely have their moments where
00:24:43.220 they're struggling with depression and go through tough moments because being a teen sucks and everyone
00:24:47.520 goes through that i mean most people do you're going through a lot of hormonal fluctuations but that
00:24:52.700 new babies that they suddenly get to care for and new responsibilities really just help them get over
00:24:58.480 themselves and it's so sad because it's what's also pointed out in this book is that a huge percentage
00:25:05.660 of kids in developed countries especially in the united states will never be exposed to an infant
00:25:13.840 in their lifetime unless they have a kid themselves and and at best has one sibling which is a very
00:25:21.200 different dynamic and i feel like i'm starting to realize that many of these issues that are seen now as
00:25:30.880 derry ger for normal normal teens today are not they're they're more a product of teens growing up in
00:25:40.180 very maladaptive environments that teens for the vast majority of human history have never experienced and
00:25:46.600 that's scary yeah meanwhile as a csj report makes clear the number of ghost children is set to
00:25:53.780 multiply and will continue to do so for many years so again it's not just the pandemic that causes this
00:25:58.320 is an increasing problem this is they claim that this is due to the disastrous impact on lockdown on
00:26:03.220 babies and young children who are now making their way through the education system as one primary
00:26:07.060 school teacher said to me it breaks my heart looking at the kids in my class either they are crippled by
00:26:11.800 anxiety or jumping off the walls basically they are just not happy well tabian's jumping off the
00:26:17.620 walls kids should be jumping off the walls that means you're doing a good job and that's that's
00:26:21.640 another i mean that's the classic issue of school now is and why boys especially are suffering in school
00:26:26.680 is teachers somehow think it's wrong that they can't sit down for hours on end at desks what on earth
00:26:34.740 yeah i agree and this is about stoking their will as we said that's your job as a parent the head of
00:26:42.880 one primary school explained to me usually around half of pupils arrive at primary school not ready
00:26:48.020 to start lessons after lockdown this has jumped to more like 80 percent teachers are baffled to find
00:26:53.900 four-year-olds barely able to say their name and still in nappies they are quick to blame the parents
00:26:59.060 no one mentioned how the complete absence of statutory services over the pandemic took its toll
00:27:04.860 lockdown all but halted early years provisions drop-in baby and toddler groups stopped parks and
00:27:12.200 playgrounds were closed long after we knew the virus didn't spread outside again like the mimetic virus
00:27:18.220 worse than the real virus that it just delighted in totalitarianly enforcing these these systems even
00:27:27.060 more extraordinarily health visitors a vital service and lifeline for new parents largely disappeared
00:27:32.520 as did many gps new mothers were riddled with anxiety were their babies feeding properly gaining weight
00:27:39.060 and the crushing fear for every new mother did their babies have a disability they had no one to ask
00:27:45.340 as one new mother said i feel very isolated and frightened this is my first child i don't know what
00:27:51.000 normal is and i don't know where to find help parenting circle a charity which aims to improve
00:27:56.340 children's school readiness points out that a five-year-old who cannot play happily or speak
00:28:01.800 properly is more likely to grow into a nine-year-old bully than a 13-year-old with school attendance
00:28:06.840 issues than a 15-year-old who joins a gang and finally a 19-year-old behind bars unless serious
00:28:12.420 remedial steps are taken to bring back the ghost children to stop their numbers growing that will be
00:28:18.500 their future it's a disaster for society and already and i think basically what we're doing is we're
00:28:23.460 raising a generation of hakiko moris neats in the united states there's already estimated to be 10
00:28:28.680 million that means people who are not in employment education or training well and i was just actually
00:28:33.540 right before we hopped on this call talking with i won't name it but a recruiter that we know who works
00:28:40.460 in in tech and startup in the uk and he's talking about how talented grads in the uk especially because
00:28:47.340 that's like a talented grad coming from oxford or cambridge like a top uk university is looking at
00:28:52.760 a job that pays them 30k a year they're just not taking the jobs they're just not working because
00:28:59.820 there's no point they can't buy a house on that salary they can't do anything on that salary so
00:29:04.100 they're just not going to do it and i think that's another problem that he said he was encountering in
00:29:08.300 the job market when recruiting talent is that a lot of talent just doesn't want to work because
00:29:13.000 why they're not going to be able to buy a house they're not going to be able to buy a car they're
00:29:18.820 not going to be able to start a family based on how people live lives now because the way that our
00:29:23.560 life is run per modern society's standards which are completely out of whack are dysfunctional and to
00:29:31.800 that point about parents being so isolated and really failing to thrive i think this also highlights
00:29:38.660 how the the downfall of communities especially religious communities that allow high fertility
00:29:44.000 families to not just support each other but mentor new young families parents with no kids
00:29:50.040 are are causing knock-on effects and societal downfall you take away those communities and here now you
00:29:56.380 have these isolated first-time mothers who have no idea how to do everything everything's so much
00:30:01.640 harder when you are a parent of one child for the first time the first time is always the hardest
00:30:06.200 with everything right practice makes perfect and so you have these parents who grew up isolated from
00:30:11.960 other families who grew up with no guidance on what to do so they think that everything's really hard
00:30:16.400 because it is really hard for them they don't have any more kids and so they've made most of the
00:30:20.820 sacrifices you have to make to become a parent and yet they get none of the rewards of like having a
00:30:27.180 big family none of the payback and and nothing gets easier for them because they continue to not have
00:30:31.720 that community that gives them perspective and advice and support and i love that at the end of
00:30:36.680 hand is children the big piece of advice is you have to bring back religious sovereignty you have to
00:30:42.000 allow religious communities to thrive and support each other and you have to allow religious education
00:30:46.860 to be executed without intervention and with support yeah absolutely and another thing you're talking
00:30:53.620 about this morning that i'd love if you go into before we go into more of the stats
00:30:56.100 is how culture is changing among gen z because there is some hope
00:31:00.240 you're saying that before the pandemic that there was this culture of like in the dating scene oh yeah
00:31:07.920 yeah there's this yeah there's this gen z young lady writing on sub stack who was talking about dating
00:31:13.360 culture and i think call her daddy 2018 dating advice episode that was kind of foundational for gen z in
00:31:20.900 terms of these are the tips and it was like cheat or be cheated on and sugar daddies are okay and like
00:31:28.540 just basically go out be unethical dating is war have sex and then there was sort of this ethical
00:31:34.280 reckoning where i think this is maybe around the pandemic or a little bit after 2018 where the culture did
00:31:40.420 start to shift and people just wouldn't consider being so callous and so transactional anymore even though
00:31:48.200 maybe kind of they still are i think that was kind of the argument that you make but ultimately
00:31:52.320 i think that the the young generation from what i've seen is realizing that the way their parents
00:31:59.920 are living isn't working and this is what we're seeing yes and that's i think what you're also
00:32:03.640 seeing this this interest in religiosity again well yeah for the first time in american history you
00:32:09.020 are seeing an increase in conservative voting patterns what you are not seeing and what you're wrong
00:32:12.940 there is a rise in religiosity this is a completely ephemeral phenomenon that people want to make
00:32:18.920 up some religious communities notice some young people who formerly were not religious or not of
00:32:24.580 religious families moving towards religiosity the problem is this population is much smaller than the
00:32:31.500 young people raised in religious families that are leaving oh yeah that's a fair point the attrition
00:32:36.300 is much larger than the people who are getting god now right and so the people who are getting god
00:32:41.120 people are like oh the what you actually see in young people what is actually exploding is an
00:32:47.120 appreciation that some of the stuff thrown out as society secularized they shouldn't have thrown out
00:32:53.800 but what is not happening is it moving back towards traditional religious practices and i have seen this
00:32:59.900 across the young people i know they adopt religious practices that are much closer to ours like the ones who
00:33:06.640 are actually thriving there's like these small communities of like ortho bros and like like new
00:33:12.560 catholics and stuff like that uh but they're not as big as the people raised to strict catholic and
00:33:19.100 orthodox families who are leaving um and they also do not seem to be finding partners or having kids uh which
00:33:26.340 is really interesting whereas the people who are doing it more like you and i are doing it which is like
00:33:32.100 new religious ideas continuing to evolve and fortify religious practices to work in a new era
00:33:39.140 pretty much all the ones i know a lot of them are really young but they're like getting married they
00:33:44.200 have long-term partners they've made this shit work and that's been really surprising to me how effective
00:33:49.580 they have been and i think it's because they are approaching a lot of these things functionally it's
00:33:55.080 like i need to become a better person and adopt these religious systems for the end of finding a partner
00:34:02.620 raising the next generation continuing human civilization whereas in this other community it's more like a cargo
00:34:07.980 cult where they think um a cargo cult mixed with a religion which is even worse where they think if they do
00:34:14.740 all of the religious ministrations then ministrations ministrations then they will be given a partner
00:34:24.740 and kids and a good life and that's not the way it works and so because they have this ironically it's
00:34:31.100 their very faith that everything is going to work out that is destroying their lives and it's it's it's
00:34:37.260 sad to see but yeah so we want to talk about the rise of gentle parenting two studies here one showed
00:34:43.400 that 78 percent of parents into adopting digital parenting techniques this is a parenting style
00:34:48.620 where you do not punish your kids where you do not give them negative stimulation another shows percent
00:34:53.820 so we're looking at like three or four millennial parents is doing gentle parenting that means that
00:34:59.220 they are trying to raise children the way this study defined it without intimidation or punishment
00:35:04.540 finally mentally scarring to a child and then another was talking about uh tiktok videos that have the
00:35:11.000 hashtag gentle parenting have amassed a staggering 2.5 billion views and one thing i really want to
00:35:18.240 emphasize here is this is the coward's way out it is the easy solution i love it how like people act
00:35:25.140 when they see me punish my kid they're like oh he must have lost control or something even though it's
00:35:29.900 clear from even our own channel that we talked about bopping kids we talked about the context in which
00:35:34.440 we bop our kids we talked about that you know how we do it we showed video of it like way before any of
00:35:40.320 these viral viral things happen whether it was a guardian or you know we being in public recently
00:35:44.400 or and it's clear that like this is something we thought through to protect our kids no parent wants
00:35:52.400 to punish their child no parent wants to punish their child that's the easy thing sitting down and
00:35:58.040 trying to talk things through with your kids that's the easy thing the hard thing is setting boundaries
00:36:03.180 for them and boundaries that do not lessen their exuberance for life when you sit down and you talk
00:36:12.100 it through you really lower the the willingness of the kid to push boundaries in the future because
00:36:18.720 you're making it look like they emotionally hurt you by it's it's like consider it this way okay so
00:36:26.480 there's two scenarios right a kid does something he's not supposed to do bop go back to your desk
00:36:31.200 ignore it he goes oh i did something i wasn't supposed to do i won't do that again and they
00:36:34.520 know that too i mean it's going to that point immediately afterwards it's not like a yeah
00:36:39.360 you go down and you take that kid aside and you have this long conversation with him about how what
00:36:45.360 he did is wrong you're like really emotionally fucking up that kid no you're rewarding the kid
00:36:51.280 okay if you if a kid's acting up and then you take them aside and you get down on their level
00:36:57.260 and you make eye contact with them and you tell them about hey how are you feeling why did you do
00:37:03.420 that what are you doing you're giving them one-on-one attention that's a reward you just rewarded your kid
00:37:09.660 for having a freak out at the grocery store what are they going to do they're going to have more
00:37:14.200 freak outs at the grocery store like i can't emphasize how stupid of an approach it is it's so bad
00:37:21.640 it's so bad oh my god i need to pair the grocery store video with the boondocks episode oh my gosh
00:37:28.380 yes anyway um 42 percent of teens now experience persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness this
00:37:35.520 is from the center of disease control and prevention and the closer you are to the urban monoculture the
00:37:40.640 worse all this is one in five lgbt teenagers attempted uh unaliving themselves in 2022 that's
00:37:48.960 according to the trevor project that's bad that's really bad the problem was oh i forgot it was even
00:37:55.260 higher among the trans community one in seven teenagers will experience a mental disorder by
00:37:59.520 who now three in five teenage girls reported feeling sadness every day for at least two weeks this is
00:38:05.980 from the new york times three of five so more than half of teen girls well i don't know that's
00:38:11.480 perfect youth mental health hospitalizations have increased 124 from 2016 to 2022 i feel like that's
00:38:18.540 clinicalization also like you know you call your doctor you call anyone who's a professional now
00:38:23.720 and say hey my kids you know my kid frown they'll be like well you better send them to the emergency
00:38:29.060 room because there's so much fear around liability which bothers me so i feel like part of this is an
00:38:33.700 institutional issue but i hear you this is bad oh no but the liability issue is like society is
00:38:39.200 constantly blackmailing us yes what on earth and in fobbing things off to yeah they don't they're
00:38:47.240 like oh a kid's not coming to school well i guess that's like it's like well i mean obviously you need
00:38:53.040 to be doing things different and they're like i don't know like let's not like oh let's not talk
00:38:57.720 about this too much man i'm sure something will work out for them no it won't the cuckoos are eating
00:39:03.900 all the food and that's the next generation's leaders it is it is or at least the leaders of
00:39:11.400 the communities that are going to replace this portion of humanity 55 of gen z and millennials
00:39:16.940 have been to therapy with over one in four planning to stay in it forever over one in four gen z or
00:39:24.260 millennials plan to stay in therapy for the rest of their lives we can't say it's not a cult anymore
00:39:28.040 we cannot say it's not that's that's excuse me are y'all with the cult we're not a cult we're an
00:39:33.980 organization that promotes love yeah this is it therapy works when you stop you know when you stop
00:39:39.780 therapy and you get out that means it worked um and if people plan on staying in it for life that
00:39:44.160 that means that your therapist is like that means they built dependency yeah or you're treating it
00:39:50.440 like a religion or some sort of religious the clue that is the holy guide to living pure this will help
00:39:55.460 explain first her name's lorraine too we're all lorraine and you will be todd and name chosen
00:40:09.780 especially for you oh you're an oppressed minority you're a cult
00:40:15.520 no it is yeah i guess again it is meant in our in the urban monoculture it is the thing that takes
00:40:25.160 a place of religion and that's honestly when you if you were to take recordings and i hear this all
00:40:31.300 the time about people talking about how important it is that your partner sees a therapist or that you
00:40:36.740 see a therapist regularly if you just replace that and was like you know seat goes to church on sunday
00:40:43.180 and believes in god and you know lets god you know lead their life choices it would suddenly make sense
00:40:51.600 you know like you really need really you got to get your house in order you know go to church
00:40:55.880 you know have have a moral system in place and what has replaced that is therapy which is
00:41:01.400 well what's funny is it doesn't work as well if you look at the statistics it doesn't work
00:41:05.400 rates and people seeing therapists versus the depression rates of people who go to church are the
00:41:09.000 unaliving oneself rates people will be like oh it's correlation you don't get to claim
00:41:12.920 it's correlation when one in four millennials plans to stay in it forever and 55 percent are going
00:41:18.500 like that's not a correlational issue that's the therapy is causing the problem
00:41:23.680 yeah yeah yeah i yeah but also i just i can't get over this realization that anxiety and
00:41:35.640 and depression and and fear they really are things that fill the void that opens up when your life is
00:41:43.800 not full of things that matter and that includes like just disasters you know when when when the
00:41:49.060 world is burning down there's a war suddenly your depression and anxiety there's no there's literally
00:41:55.340 no room for them even when things are like you know especially when things are disastrous but also
00:42:00.660 when you have when you are full with work and meaningful stuff and there's literally no room for
00:42:06.500 anything else again there's no room for fear and anxiety and depression and malaise and
00:42:11.400 that's where religion fits it religion doesn't fix the stuff that's wrong religion
00:42:16.640 makes no room for the void that is filled by the bad stuff i i agree and the next time simone somebody
00:42:23.540 in a public context like they did at heretic on pushes back against you disciplining your kids
00:42:27.920 you need to point out to them that you not disciplining children is killing children
00:42:31.840 not disciplining kids kills kids kids need discipline now here is and i think this goes against a lot of
00:42:41.920 what people assume is they're like oh this new generation doesn't know how to use screens
00:42:46.120 they're like freaking out about it 75 percent of gen z actively monitor their screen time
00:42:51.260 75 percent monitor what does it mean to actively monitor your screen like screen time tracking apps
00:42:58.340 like how much they're using different programs you know like the program you use
00:43:02.640 i don't use that i know someone who uses it okay well these programs exist it'll allow you to track
00:43:09.460 how much you're using different things people have used them for a long time and 75 percent of gen z
00:43:13.260 is using them gen z is not out of control of screen time it is not screen time that's causing this
00:43:18.900 again i can tell you as somebody i definitely growing up middle school high school spent probably six to
00:43:27.000 seven hours a day in front of a screen when i wasn't at school like the idea and i didn't have
00:43:32.260 all of these these issues the idea and i was on all of the chat i was on the worst of the chat rooms
00:43:37.720 i was on chat rooms before chat rooms had moderators i was on chat rooms don't you remember oh my gosh do
00:43:44.260 you remember in those early chat rooms when we were first on them the first thing everyone would say
00:43:49.120 is asl age i was on chat rooms before they could like well i'm an 11 girl and my interest is this and
00:43:56.200 there is no control oh those are the good days weren't they yeah yeah no no no no we were hanging
00:44:02.360 out there before they kicked before there was even a token attempt to kick out the pda files
00:44:06.940 yeah no it was just like come on in let's start with an opener that's perfect for them
00:44:11.900 and and i think that this idea that kids shouldn't be on their screen it's like oh if they're not on
00:44:20.480 their screen what the are they doing playing in empty parks going to empty malls where do you think
00:44:25.440 they're socializing if not on their screen a kid who you've taken their screen from is a kid
00:44:31.780 who you have locked in a proverbial hell well and again people are on screens and scrolling and
00:44:38.440 getting into numerous loops because they're not allowed to go outside they're not allowed to walk
00:44:43.880 into town because their mom will get arrested they're not allowed to walk to and from school
00:44:47.980 because their mom will get arrested they're not allowed to babysit their siblings because their mom
00:44:52.320 will get arrested they're not allowed to do places where the mom has gotten arrested there's a real
00:44:57.020 story these are real cases
00:44:58.220 no but we've seen this i didn't think it was that bad i didn't think that me just being angry at a
00:45:05.980 kid would have two moms accost me at my car yeah i didn't think that because i let my kids like
00:45:11.740 walk around a playground on their own that i've had some angry old man accost me i was watching from the
00:45:16.980 car he's like oh my god your kids are crying it's like kids are supposed to cry he's like but they're
00:45:22.580 they're crying and i go yes what am i supposed to do stop the kids from crying every time they cry
00:45:27.420 like that's gonna fuck them up kids cry when they want to do something and it doesn't work out
00:45:32.920 that's something that people need to learn to deal with yeah that's play is learning your own
00:45:39.640 boundaries and learning other people's boundaries and gentle parenting removes that it's terrible
00:45:45.780 deadly and even if it has some momentary effects while the kid is with their parents when they go
00:45:51.740 to work so for example 42 percent of gen z have thought about quitting their job within the last
00:45:56.680 three months so around half i've thought about quitting their job in the last three months
00:46:01.860 makes sense because again there's this realization that no matter how hard you work you're not going
00:46:08.440 to be able to afford anything anymore so what's the point you can't buy a house but you can't buy a car
00:46:13.760 comparing themselves to the previous generation and not generations before that that's true yeah
00:46:19.140 yes and then people well although to be fair so generations before could buy a house but they were
00:46:27.260 small tiny houses that's not true simone okay so this is a this is a an effing lie that is told to
00:46:34.960 people and i'll explain the reality of generations before if you look at like if you study anthropologically
00:46:41.100 the way people in cities were living if they were poor people they would live in houses was like 12
00:46:45.540 other people usually family members they did not not not not not try to buy their own or rent their
00:46:52.400 own apartments in new york that is not a thing that ever happened historically for anyone but the
00:46:59.500 wealthiest of the wealthy and then people would be like well i could have gone to the frontier you know
00:47:04.800 the dangerous frontier with dangerous native americans who could kill you at any time and they're like
00:47:09.540 and i could have like staked land there or gotten a house really cheaply in one of those regions and
00:47:14.780 it's like yes you could have done that but today you can go to africa and buy a cheap house you can go
00:47:22.160 to latin america and buy a cheap house that's where we got our first house it was way cheaper than in the
00:47:27.260 u.s and very affordable for most millennial remote jobs but you're not considering that you're not taking
00:47:33.480 that seriously and you're like well that would be dangerous well the frontier was dangerous too well that
00:47:38.900 would require me to up in my life the frontier required people to up in their lives as well
00:47:43.100 well that would require you you you have all of the environments all of the advantages that somebody
00:47:49.920 from you know the i'd say the 1890s 1750s 1700s 1650s had you just have deluded yourself and people
00:47:59.820 are like well people back then had more social connections and it's like they effing did not they
00:48:06.120 had more social connections if they stayed in the town they grew up in yeah yeah no oh that is
00:48:11.520 interesting we maybe that's worth some additional analysis is the the amount of i don't know what the
00:48:18.600 word is so it's not social mobility but the the extent to which people do not live where they grew
00:48:22.700 up anymore and keep moving both makes it very hard to form relationships but also form community and
00:48:28.980 they're choosing to do that because they value money over persistent relationships yes and that's
00:48:35.480 fine but you've got to find ways to utilize that and there are there are ways to make money and make
00:48:40.660 fulfilling relationships online as i did when i was growing up i all of my friends were online
00:48:45.740 all of all my good friends were online for long periods i mean no you had some great in-person
00:48:52.080 friends let's i i i did during certain portions of my life but not during every portion and when i had
00:48:58.220 good friends you know how i did that i go to the local like at my college go to the local bar and just
00:49:04.900 walk up to any group of people i didn't know put on my hand and be like look i'm new here or i'm looking
00:49:09.060 to meet new people i'm malcolm do you mind if i join the conversation and this is something people
00:49:14.320 don't do anymore because they are afraid of that group saying oh i'm sorry i'm not interested
00:49:19.500 and group said that yeah and it hurts but you have to be okay with the hurt and and every again every
00:49:30.740 rejection is a rep it is it should be seen the same as lifting a weight or bringing your focus back to
00:49:36.520 your breath and you're meditating it is a good thing yeah if your kids can't deal with the hurt
00:49:41.120 they're not going to deal with the world no well and they're not they're not going to do anything
00:49:45.000 of consequence at all for sure because success is built upon a mountain of failures you're not going
00:49:51.340 to achieve anything if you don't try and fail a ton of times because if you're not failing you're
00:49:57.280 not trying hard enough you're not doing something aggressive enough at all which and the fact that
00:50:03.600 failure is seen as as a bad thing in the first place is embarrassing for anyone who believes
00:50:09.000 and the final thing i'll post here which i think is interesting is on the partisan gap in spanking
00:50:14.060 which is to say that spanking rates are actually increasing among republicans increasing well good
00:50:19.820 for them while decreasing in democrats and independents no that's i don't know it's not
00:50:23.920 surprising i just you know that this graph which unfortunately ends in like 2010s or like
00:50:28.840 i think it might be 2015 where it's ending the republican spanking rate is over 85 percent
00:50:33.600 really that's impressive well for dems this has it at like 64 percent unfortunately ends in like
00:50:43.060 2010 and independents it's around 70 percent i think it's just like way higher than people realize as
00:50:48.600 well historically speaking my read is that it's fallen off a cliff in like the last 10 years
00:50:53.040 like when you actually raise kids it's like oh obviously kids need discipline duh
00:50:57.900 yeah one it is possible to not discipline a child and have them not die if you have one maybe two and
00:51:05.140 that's most people who choose to have kids by a long shot so i i guess i get it but even then
00:51:12.060 you're better off doing it so yeah anyway i love you to death simone this conversation has been very
00:51:19.520 enriching for me and i hope you had a wonderful day i did we we made some incremental steps forward on the
00:51:27.500 things that matter to us which is what makes me happy in a day exactly and internal insight we have
00:51:32.880 into who might be managing things within the government going forwards in terms of what
00:51:36.900 hasn't been announced yet has gotten us very excited yeah very oh so promising 2025 is gonna be
00:51:43.680 amazing yeah the uh this is this is not brat summer this is disciplinary this is disciplinarian
00:51:51.460 it's pop summer it's pop summer uh yeah i need to play the song with the splatoon sisters in the
00:51:58.660 in the fascist outfits here it's cute okay
00:52:02.020 well goodbye it's it's it's the cat girl authoritarians oh i'll also put the one from um
00:52:17.840 what what what show is that helsing
00:52:20.280 helsing has an alt-right cat boy in it um a cat boy in it cat well yeah an effeminate alt-right
00:52:31.000 cat boy is in helsing yes oh dear what is the problem there schrodinger
00:52:38.440 doctor i'm sorry i seem to have misplaced my handbook oh what to do with you go sheriff as a
00:52:48.100 captain for now um called schrodinger well that's cute okay all right well you had me at schrodinger
00:52:57.060 no you haven't you had me at all right cat boy so by the way he's not alt-right he is an actual
00:53:03.080 nazi oh okay well i mean but this is what this is what the left calls us so you know whatever
00:53:10.120 embrace it yeah i love you simone i love you too goodbye
00:53:14.360 you sent out the heritage foundation email i did you did a great job with that by the way thank you
00:53:24.360 so how do you like my puritan collar speaking of ukraine i love it so did you get it from ukraine
00:53:32.200 is that why you keep mentioning ukraine yeah no your your mom bought two pairs of sweatpants
00:53:41.160 and sweatshirts from ukraine that came with these random collars and i didn't know what to do with
00:53:47.400 them because who wears a collar with a sweatshirt and sweatpants pair but they work perfect for this
00:53:56.040 with with stays and yeah i'll tell you what i find it cute simone i think this outfit is very
00:54:03.560 cute on you it's actually a good heat layer so i kind of get like i've been thinking a lot recently
00:54:10.120 because our house is so cold about a lot of things that existed in the past and and historians answers
00:54:16.200 for why they existed and why i think they really existed and i think pilgrims wore these freaking
00:54:21.240 collars because they're warm i think quake roads dude had this on because it was cold outside
00:54:27.080 and i was thinking also about like canopy beds like this over here and why people would put canopies
00:54:33.240 over them and people were like well it was because vermin would fall from the ceilings and no one wants
00:54:38.120 a rat to fall on them when you know you're you're you're sleeping and maybe that was a factor but i think
00:54:44.920 the bigger factor is that just breathing within an enclosed space heats it up so i keep waking up
00:54:53.160 in the middle of the night and i'm like well under all of my blankets because like on our floor where
00:54:57.160 our bedrooms are like the kids room is warm but our rooms are like it's 50 degrees so i keep waking
00:55:02.280 up under my covers and i'm very warm because i'm just breathing under my covers and it's heating the
00:55:06.040 space up if you cover that with a canopy and you have curtains and there's a canopy over that thing heats
00:55:12.280 up when you draw the curtains closed so i don't think it was about privacy i don't i mean it may
00:55:16.040 be a little bit but probably not really and i don't think it was about vermin i think it was about
00:55:19.880 keeping the heat in well i i yeah i i think you're right and i think that these people just haven't had
00:55:26.440 to live like somebody from the 1800s in a long time yeah well there's that one woman there's a couple
00:55:32.040 of historians which there's this one british woman who does a lot of the actual work like she'll try
00:55:39.720 different ways of washing linen clothing and she'll die i was just watching an episode of something
00:55:45.640 where she was one of the key historians like living historians demonstrating how victorians
00:55:51.560 celebrated christmas and one of the things she does for example with another woman is that she she
00:55:57.480 she dies ribbons and apparently what you use is like condensed evaporated urine to fix the the color
00:56:04.440 dies and so here she is like pouring urine into a bucket it's just thanks but like she does it and
00:56:10.440 i think yeah she's one of the only historians i've ever seen who is actively out there like skinning
00:56:17.000 chickens and baking the food in the old way and yeah when you actually start doing it and living that
00:56:24.360 then you see what it's like and it's so cool that we live in this house built in 1790 ish that allows us
00:56:29.320 to kind of experiment with that yeah well and and that we live a a lifestyle of austerity which i is
00:56:37.400 so shamed in the mainstream culture and i think one of the things we're going to be touching on in
00:56:40.840 today's podcast which is going to come after this random chat is really hurting people psychologically
00:56:46.040 and emotionally and there's so many pleasures that just you won't get to know if you don't live
00:56:51.800 with hardship you you know if you're not living if you're heating your house in the winter for example
00:56:57.080 you don't get to know how cozy it is and the quality of sleep you're gonna get you know when
00:57:02.600 you cozy up in a freezing house yeah under a really nice warm blanket and a warm cozy bed yeah one of
00:57:08.440 me actually thinks that seasonal affective disorder is maybe partially caused by warming houses in the
00:57:13.960 winter but i don't think that humans are supposed to like biologically designed to live in warm houses
00:57:19.240 in the winter and i suspect that that might be what's causing it it's like it's like effing up our system
00:57:25.000 it expects it to be in the summer it's like you can think of it seasonally as like when you know
00:57:30.200 like when a ride and i'll play the mr bean skid here when a ride's movements are out of line with
00:57:36.760 its animation that it's showing you and that causes it oh and it's so creepy yeah like your body's telling
00:57:42.600 you you should be cold you should be sleeping more and yet the lights are telling you stay up late and
00:57:47.720 the heat is telling you take off your bundles and yeah yeah the signals are crossing that could be
00:57:54.920 it might be like the car sickness but emotionally speaking from not enduring what you're supposed
00:58:01.720 to endure every winter yeah anyway yeah and then the worst thing is that in winter you're also supposed
00:58:08.280 to be like eating a lot less and because of that people built all these eat more i guess you eat a lot
00:58:14.120 in the fall to build up that layer but i think appetite increases in the winter and appetite
00:58:19.480 suppressed during the summer and appetite increases during the winter so appetite increases when you're
00:58:23.400 exposed to cold yeah because you would have less food around you would you would generally in the
00:58:31.000 winter have access to fewer calories because you know that's the way this is that's the way it works
00:58:37.800 and because of that you would generally be eating a lot less in the winter and what happened as a
00:58:44.280 result of that is they built a number of festivals into the winter season because you were not working
00:58:49.400 the farm and you were already in a state of like half starvation anyway so if you're going to have
00:58:54.280 a community-sponsored festival this is when it makes sense to do it and these festivals led to
00:58:58.280 things like thanksgiving and christmas but now what this means is that the winter season is just a
00:59:03.320 series like halloween thanksgiving christmas oh and thanksgiving by the way used to be a day of
00:59:08.680 fasting it was not thanksgiving was yeah dude oh i had no idea yeah no it was a day of
00:59:18.360 you know solemn prayer and you know devotion and and thinking about you know kind of like a
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