Based Camp - Were Tradwives Always a Myth？ (Famous Tradwives Disavow Label)

00:00:00.000 Hello, Malcolm. I'm excited to be with you today because we're going to talk about the

00:00:03.920 Tradwife Exodus. There is an exodus of Tradwives taking place. People are writing deranged fan

00:00:09.840 fiction, villainizing Tradwives. Women are disassociating from the label. Like what?

00:00:14.160 What? I don't know. Tradwife? Some of the most famous Tradwives have said,

00:00:18.720 I don't like the Tradwife. I'm not a Tradwife. This is true. Yeah. In fact, one of the most

00:00:23.300 famous Tradwives, Nora Smith, who everyone has seen, she is that very soft-spoken,

00:00:28.260 she's going to wear some fantastic piece of clothing and then make gum or toothpaste from

00:00:33.860 scratch because my child wants whatever right my husband was on his way back from dinner with a

00:00:38.940 friend when he called me throughout dinner was pizza bites i started by making the mozzarella

00:00:44.160 let it sit for 10 minutes before slicing it and returning it back to the heat while i seared off

00:00:49.980 my breakfast sausage so this is norah smith trying to pretend that she's not the definition

00:00:55.520 of a trad wife is well that's perfect i'm actually gonna ask you what do you consider

00:00:59.760 a trad wife well i had to look up the term i had to read it up because i wasn't familiar with that

00:01:06.080 right i didn't quite know what it means didn't know what it means but the fast answer is a trad

00:01:10.560 wife is a woman who embraces or promotes a traditional model of marriage and family life

00:01:15.040 where she typically prioritizes being a homemaker and a primary caregiver for kids takes primary

00:01:21.200 responsibility for cooking, cleaning, and managing the household, supports her husband's role as the

00:01:26.200 primary breadwinner, often values traditional gender roles within marriage. So with that

00:01:32.780 definition and those points, I'm none of that. See, she's trying to say, no, not me. She's of

00:01:37.980 course just using a random definition of trad wife, and it means a lot of different things to

00:01:41.100 a lot of different people. But well before she even said this, the other most famous trad wife,

00:01:46.680 Hannah Nealman of Ballerina Farm, also, when interviewed, said, no, we don't really associate

00:01:52.000 with that label. That said, Nara Smith had used the hashtag tradwife tagging her post with that

00:01:57.700 plenty of times. And Hannah Nealman definitely leaned in to the trope. And yet. So she tagged

00:02:03.560 it and pretended like she didn't know the term. Well, later, later depended that she didn't or

00:02:09.020 pretended that she didn't know the term. And after this started happening more and more,

00:02:13.920 and more people started talking about the death of trad wives and trad wives aren't cool anymore

00:02:18.520 than commentators and academics alike started trying to explain this distancing and here's

00:02:23.360 the thing both you and i agree they're all completely missing the key detail here which

00:02:29.000 is the trad wives were never real to begin with and that is why we are seeing this but people

00:02:34.400 are mistaking it they're like out this was never it was never there it was never there

00:02:40.700 Well, we argued that, and we have an old post arguing that BDSM culture is really the culture that is upstream of trad wife culture, that it did not evolve from anything authentically 1950s. It evolved from BDSM play, and we go over the various, it's basically, there's just so much evidence, there's so much fingerprints.

00:03:02.920 it is a converted version of bdsm with a cargo cult like paint on it attempting to bring back

00:03:12.420 the prosperity of an earlier time through acting it out for people who are unaware of what cargo

00:03:16.960 cults were um there was a period where in like the polynesian islands and stuff like that the

00:03:21.680 u.s military would set up in those regions and they had enormous wealth but they were you know

00:03:26.440 savage tribe people who didn't know anything um and so the u.s leaves and then they begin to like

00:03:31.880 build airplane runways and build airplanes out of sticks and copy the air signs that they had

00:03:39.760 seen the U.S. people doing during the short period there in the in sort of a religious ritual to try

00:03:45.320 to bring back this previous prosperity. And I think a lot of people are doing that with sort

00:03:49.520 of a 1950s vision where first you had this sort of role play and LARP that came from BDSM.

00:03:56.580 And then that was merged with people who genuinely thought that they could bring back the prosperity and decency of this previous era through cargo culting the phenomenon.

00:04:10.380 I'm actually going to argue it's worse than that, Malcolm.

00:04:12.580 I'm going to argue that most of what people think to be trad wives online, and actually, Nara Smith is being kind of honest.

00:04:21.840 Hannah Nealman is being extremely honest when they say that they're not trad wives, because they really never were. They also, even while maybe playing up an aesthetic hashtag trad wife as a trope, knew all along that they weren't and were instead fetishized by people trying to believe that this concept, which I agree is a cargo cult was real.

00:04:45.900 in the same way that people who look at us and think that having a lot of kids is a breeder

00:04:53.900 fetish think that right no one's having a lot of kids because they have a breeder fetish and no

00:05:00.280 woman is making sourdough in her kitchen pretty much because she thinks that she's part of this

00:05:06.600 actual cargo cult there are exceptions there are certainly people also question elements

00:05:11.260 of more traditional marriages and i would say unsustainable forms of marriage that are more

00:05:15.820 like this nuclear family that the cargo cult cosplays as um it's it's a little bit nuanced

00:05:20.980 but i'm yeah actually the vast majority of trad wife content as it exists is people seeing one

00:05:27.220 piece of content completely misconstruing it and basically building headcanon around a thing that

00:05:33.780 doesn't exist which is well they're building a headcanon around a thing that they wish existed

00:05:38.980 yes by this what i mean is they wish it existed as a foe a foe as an opponent that there were

00:05:45.340 really women living like this when they're simply aren't and so their fears about being forced to

00:05:52.100 live this way their sexual and fetishized fears about the the as we pointed out the handmaid's

00:05:59.200 tale is clearly a sex fantasy for a lot of these women oh oh don't hold me down high status male

00:06:05.240 i'm i'm just a young fertile female don't make a high status don't hold me down mr trump

00:06:12.520 don't send me to the mar-a-lago breeding pits oh my gosh but no i mean it is it's a fetish it's

00:06:20.100 women who know that they'll never be bred and women have a genetic predilection to want to

00:06:25.100 become moms and so they they you know they're they come up with fantasy scenarios where that

00:06:30.580 can really happen but the reality it's beyond that too now with ai taking over people are freaking

00:06:35.560 out about not being able to get jobs anymore they they are literally looking for some way out of a

00:06:41.320 nightmare that they're living and the jobs they have are terrible they're not able to get decent

00:06:45.100 new jobs they're afraid of their ability to have any form of security this idea of being on some

00:06:50.620 homestead somewhere making sourdough bread sounds a lot less stressful than door dashing in between

00:06:57.720 really long shifts as you know like a nurse or working at a cvs or doing whatever it is that

00:07:02.560 you might be doing everyone now has to hustle to make money this idea that instead you would have

00:07:07.140 the secure home and children in this much more succinct life is very appealing now and it's only

00:07:12.800 going to get worse the trad wife women you look at the things the that they're doing and they are

00:07:18.280 progressive female fantasies and fetishes this is exactly it is downstream of cottage court right

00:07:25.520 like it's the same style it just has a different name to it and cottagecore was one of the most

00:07:30.180 popular stylistic movements in the crazy tumblr days right like in the most extreme parts of the

00:07:36.600 progressive society then you look at trad ideas like sourdough sourdough was something that like

00:07:44.340 every edgy progressive hipster woman i knew in san francisco had their own sourdough starter

00:07:50.800 right you know or oh um all of this stuff all of this stuff is very uh i have a little garden

00:07:58.340 right oh that's very edgy and i don't know whatever so i think that that it's always been a

00:08:05.200 larp that it wasn't also a progressive fantasy it is a fantasy of a type of life that really

00:08:11.680 if you look at like ballerina farms where they live this life she's able to live something that

00:08:16.380 approximates it because her husband is one of the like richest humans on earth right you know

00:08:22.080 that's what makes it feasible for them it would not be feasible and and it's why we don't preach

00:08:28.220 it for most americans well also she is working and they both run a business together they're

00:08:34.460 more like a corporate family if a well-funded one then they are like the trad wife family which

00:08:40.260 typically involves a single breadwinner and the wife being at home only with the kids hannah is

00:08:44.400 a business owner and media icon. She was never a trad wife, and she never said she was a trad

00:08:50.860 wife, but people put that on her. In fact, this is really the first exhibit in this whole complete

00:08:55.820 disaster of interpretation from people, which is the book Yesteryear. I started seeing signs of

00:09:01.860 this shift really when the book came out. That's when people started trying to argue. In much

00:09:06.260 greater amounts, this basically broke containment in April when the book came out. Such a hit that

00:09:12.620 It was. People really knew that this was going to be amazing.

00:09:15.580 Oh, you told me about this book. You got really mad at it.

00:09:18.180 I got extremely mad at this book.

00:09:19.840 Amazon MGM Studios bought the rights to it before it was published.

00:09:24.380 Anne Hathaway is going to star in and produce it, Malcolm.

00:09:27.540 When I read it, I mentally referred to it as Straw Man the Musical because it was that bad.

00:09:33.320 It is an utter piece of trash, not just because it gives off the air of being written by someone incapable of modeling other people.

00:09:40.600 and of course this is coming from an autistic person incapable of picking up fundamental social

00:09:44.980 cues but also it doesn't even you need a story Simone no no no hold on you've got to explain

00:09:49.780 the plot to people you're you're you're crashing out over something no start with the plot so

00:09:54.240 people understand why it matters that they couldn't model other people I will okay I will

00:09:59.540 explain the plot of this book to you I'm not going to explain it in the way that the story is told

00:10:03.620 because it's stupid I'm going to explain to you the whole plot so you can now see how stupid the

00:10:07.460 plot is when why her whole twist is not not good okay so basically it's about this horrible spiteful

00:10:15.340 woman who is incapable of love who decides to marry a oh and she's like very christian probably

00:10:21.480 like they're obviously modeled after the neilman family which is mormon okay and so she decides

00:10:27.040 that she's going to marry a rich trust fund kid who doesn't want to work and just wants to be a

00:10:32.440 stay-at-home dad like super reasonable okay he doesn't need to he's that rich yeah of course

00:10:36.320 this isn't the case with daniel nealman who worked throughout their marriage anyway whatever we just

00:10:41.900 throw that out and then she has this kid with whom she does not connect at all she she treats it like

00:10:47.920 this living nightmare having this kid hoping the kid dies i know that postpartum depression is a

00:10:52.620 thing but what she describes is not like any description of postpartum depression that i've

00:10:57.020 read um and and then and he's only one kid no no she starts off with one kid and then she ends up

00:11:02.160 having six, which by the way, when you look at, for example, what is covered in Hannah's Children,

00:11:08.340 the book on families with educated women who have five or more kids, I think, or six or more kids

00:11:14.400 in the United States, their first experience having a kid is the biggest predictor of whether

00:11:19.700 or not they're going to have a big family. People don't have big families if they don't

00:11:23.640 love their kids. Even if they feel like their culture is all around having big families,

00:11:28.160 they typically cap out at three and then they're like whatever i've done my part maybe four not

00:11:32.640 six so again that's also super not believable but anyway she goes on to have six kids and um she

00:11:38.660 does it by inseminating herself with a turkey baster because she finds her husband so repulsive

00:11:43.180 apparently that was a great detail i really enjoyed that thank you author i'm not even gonna

00:11:48.240 name her name is like carol burke um but she she then becomes a this woman this detestable character

00:11:54.320 becomes a famous trad wife influencer because she's like well basically if my husband is too

00:11:59.200 lazy and stupid to build a successful business I will just force us into the lifestyle become

00:12:04.960 by becoming a trad wife influencer and then she hires this whole staff she hires nannies out of

00:12:11.540 LA as if a conservative Christian would do that also it's super not affordable to do that but

00:12:18.200 whatever she hires this whole staff to run her media empire but then she doesn't let them be

00:12:21.980 seen on social media to like hide the fact you know and to be dishonest and then she finds out

00:12:28.060 that one of her employees slept with her husband and she just loses it and sexually assaults that

00:12:34.400 assistant who then later goes to the press about it and this is when the main character just blacks

00:12:40.200 out she just completely blacks out and her family bizarrely decides that the best way to handle this

00:12:46.720 woman having a nervous breakdown after sexually assaulting one of her employees after that

00:12:51.120 employee slept with her husband is to just make their house actually like the 1840s they call it

00:12:56.940 yesteryear farm so let's make yesteryear farm like it's actually the 1840s and take away the

00:13:01.680 working plumbing and take away the electricity and everything like that and all of her children

00:13:06.360 except for two of them or three maybe three or four yeah for most of the older children leave

00:13:10.520 and then she only has the very youngest and then one day she just wakes up and forgets that whole

00:13:18.100 transition period and is like oh where am i what what has happened to my life why is this man who

00:13:26.200 looks like my husband but is not my husband here who are these weird looking children who say that

00:13:30.900 they're my children but they're not my children who are they and she has this whole like you know

00:13:34.500 mental break and then she tries to escape the house and her oldest daughter who had like you

00:13:40.180 know left to the reservation and had made it out to like the real urban monoculture world where

00:13:44.640 everyone's thriving yeah thriving out in the manhattan hatefully yeah she rescues and hatefully

00:13:53.160 um hatefully rescues her her mother and then her mother uh the story concludes with her this this

00:14:01.240 spiteful terrible now insane woman giving an interview to a former college roommate or

00:14:08.920 colleague who she hated and thought was you know a slutty hot mess who was a member of the urban

00:14:12.880 monoculture interviewing her and i think for the author it was supposed to be this smug moment of

00:14:17.260 like i was the urban monoculture journalist woman who got the mfa because she got an mfa

00:14:23.900 and this is what will happen to anyone who becomes a trad wife they'll become ruined and insane and

00:14:29.660 they were always mean to begin with and i will interview them and put them to shame just as i

00:14:33.900 did in this book but the way she presents it in the book of course is it like oh here's this perfect

00:14:38.760 trad wife and then something kind of stressful happens like one of her employees says she's

00:14:43.640 going to resign and the next thing she knows she wakes up and she's in this weird farm with these

00:14:47.540 strange the strange family that's not her family so it's supposed to be like oh what's going on

00:14:51.300 here and part of it was like oh you know punish this trad wife with an actual trad life and i hate

00:14:57.080 it all so much and it's super not accurate because this woman is not realistic first of all simone

00:15:02.820 hold on you are probably the closest thing to a real trad life that exists these days is it better

00:15:07.880 than when you lived in the urban monoculture yeah obviously but that's i'm also not technically

00:15:13.740 because there is no such thing as a crowd wife but i'm not saying you are who women there are

00:15:18.420 women all around the world who look at your face and think of you whatever character was put into

00:15:25.600 this story that's what they assume your life is so as the woman who they want not with all the

00:15:31.900 ai around us you know we're not like playing well yeah but that's a more recent development there

00:15:37.340 was a stage in your life when they thought you know i don't know we were too terminally online

00:15:42.860 to really signal as trad wife you know you to be a trad wife influencer you mostly do elaborate

00:15:47.780 baking tutorials and like large would you like it if i let you do more elaborate baking tutorials

00:15:54.020 that is not the plan that is not the plan but anyway that is what they do i remember all of

00:16:00.240 this i remember the plot you went through it we criticized it okay what what's confusing to me

00:16:05.760 okay yeah is when you were reading the book and you were getting angry at it the plot you

00:16:10.840 described was very different you described her as actually having gone to the past like it was

00:16:15.960 one of those time travel novels and that's the big gotcha of the book that basically in one moment

00:16:21.600 she has an employee quit and then the next moment she wakes up in this weird bed in this weird house

00:16:27.080 with a man who looks like her old husband she calls him old caleb um and kids who say that

00:16:33.600 their her mama but but she's not their mama and it's weird and she hates doing the laundry and

00:16:40.540 she hates baking and she can't bake well and everything's horrible and they have no running

00:16:44.720 water and it's it's basically the author's smug way of being like yeah you like being tread so

00:16:52.060 much yeah i'm like you have to tread here's to shred shove your face in the tread and it just

00:16:58.400 turns out that it totally implausibly after accusations came out around her sexually

00:17:05.920 assaulting an employee. Why did you read this book? Because everyone was talking about it

00:17:12.000 and it was about trad wives. And I wanted to understand what a leftist woman thought of the

00:17:20.160 concept of trad wives. I wanted to understand the straw man. And I had no idea just how depraved or

00:17:26.920 straw manny it would be i thought it would be an actual best effort take from someone on the left

00:17:32.920 to try to which it's funny because when we do the other side like when we're talking about what is

00:17:38.300 it actually like to live as a trans person we go to like famous mainstream trans individuals

00:17:44.660 personal diaries like the episode where we go over anna valent's diaries uh that they post

00:17:50.060 publicly right um to to go through is what challenges do they actually face what parts

00:17:57.500 of this lifestyle actually don't work for them and it is interesting one and that it does almost

00:18:04.360 read like a sick fantasy because their lives are well because she's one such a hateful woman

00:18:10.340 and two the entire plot line is so implausible that that also she used to be like a hateful

00:18:15.680 woman who's a repressed lesbian which is a big part of the plot line that's why you know she

00:18:19.980 sexually assaults this woman that sucked with her husband why she inseminates herself with a turkey

00:18:25.740 baster to get pregnant because her husband she doesn't even like her husband like why is she

00:18:29.820 even jealous about this yeah i know that's the thing it's nothing makes sense about her like

00:18:34.420 this is someone incapable of modeling other people even from a logical standpoint like i can't model

00:18:39.720 other people i'm autistic i you know we've sat at tables where people are like openly crying and i'm

00:18:45.040 like that seemed to go well and you're like wait what did you miss anyway i can't do it but i can

00:18:50.340 logically think through oh that's implausible whereas this author can't even seem to do that

00:18:55.660 and somehow you know mgm is that you just as a rightist do not understand a few things if you

00:19:05.160 grew up a rightist or if you've always been a rightist or sometimes you forget because i remember

00:19:08.900 when i was on the left there genuinely is not a real attempt to model what they thought people

00:19:14.540 on the right were like or yeah well and here's the thing because it's very easy she could have

00:19:18.820 easily modeled this because this entire character she built was based on hannah nealman of ballerina

00:19:26.600 farm all the way down to like elements in the book that are so explicit it almost feels like

00:19:32.060 some form of of is it libel or defamation when you write it whatever but in in in her house

00:19:39.120 there's a long kitchen window this is like a very iconic element of ballerina farm overpriced

00:19:45.200 cutting board another iconic ballerina farm product signature sourdough starter ballerina

00:19:51.300 farm shots of long elaborate meal prep from scratch obviously treasured family cow yes ballerina farm

00:19:57.720 had a family cow they loved so much they took it on a camping trip once because they couldn't leave

00:20:02.240 her behind and husband who enjoys birthing calves yes david neilman who goes by hog farmer on

00:20:08.180 instagram absolutely loves running cats so she paid attention to some surface level things

00:20:14.680 and completely dragged the concept of this couple through the mud also failing entirely to model

00:20:20.880 them when actually hannah neilman's diaries like online went way back and for whatever reason maybe

00:20:26.920 they're taking down now but not soon enough for fundy snark on the internet to find it and boy

00:20:33.540 did they find and it was riddled with spelling errors it showed a lot of vulnerability in her

00:20:37.640 early days as a young mother living in brazil when they first went there like it's there you

00:20:42.420 can people all the time i think unfairly but when they do and they do so skillfully you can get that

00:20:50.860 nuanced debate she doesn't even try that so it's just really crazy to me i hate the book it's a

00:20:55.060 terrible book it's going to be turned into a movie it's going to make me really angry but you said

00:20:58.180 there was something else because you had finished talking about this yeah so this book comes out in

00:21:01.980 april and then around the time the book came out there were several anti-trad wife creators who

00:21:06.680 on the rise including one that i watch regularly called life take two who now has 173 subscribers

00:21:14.580 which is up from 60 sorry 173 000 subscribers which is up from 60 000 a year ago so you and i

00:21:22.260 know what it's like to grow on youtube that is a big explosion right 60k one year 173k the next

00:21:31.520 year that's pretty huge um and here's a like a very sort of brief example of who she is what

00:21:38.540 she actually is she's a former but she called herself like a homesteading maga trad wife and

00:21:44.960 now she talks about how how dangerous it is basically to like stake your wife on a career

00:21:49.440 i would argue that that's an entirely reasonable thing to argue but anyway this this is her

00:21:55.480 next trad wife the first thing i do every morning is check to see if my child support's been paid

00:22:00.480 yet god damn it peace so yeah that's her here's an example of the kind of commentary that she makes

00:22:07.160 here's her even actually talking connected about ballerina farm it's been a while since i've done

00:22:11.520 a ballerina farm video and here we go you guys gonna love this and for those of you who don't

00:22:15.440 love it the little ballerina farmsters who are going to tell me that i'm jealous and i'm just

00:22:19.420 a hater that's actually not the case i was doing the ballerina farm thing before ballerina farm

00:22:23.380 was like even in middle school me and my rich ass mormon husband bought a homestead in south

00:22:28.840 Carolina just because they had a green living platform before platforms were even a thing we

00:22:33.020 had a website I had a radio show I had like a podcast a blog a newsletter like an actual paper

00:22:38.160 newsletter and I bought a homestead and did all this exact same shit like 15 years beforehand I

00:22:42.600 ever dreamed of so if anybody knows the mindset of a Mormon mommy homesteading influencer it's

00:22:47.260 probably another Mormon mommy homesteading influencer first thing I bet you didn't know

00:22:50.540 about Ballerina Farm I want you guys to look at the kitchen here for just a minute this is what

00:22:53.580 we think of when we think of Ballerina Farm we think of all this wood seat lawn kitchen

00:22:56.660 window this incredible historic house and they just like went in and like did nothing to it

00:23:02.460 except for buying this big agastro like i remember the first time i ever watched belloween farm and

00:23:07.140 it's like that's so cool that they just like preserved the nature of the historic home like

00:23:10.680 oh my god they didn't even upgrade it or do anything to it just move in red of course over

00:23:14.640 the years they've upgraded and painted and done some things and i personally think that painting

00:23:17.980 all that beautiful plank sighting was probably a content creating decision no matter how many

00:23:23.460 ring lights you have. That darkness kind of sucks the light out of the room. I like to film in rooms

00:23:27.500 that are brighter, that have more white. Bet you didn't know that this is what the Ballerina Farm

00:23:31.300 Kitchen looked like when they bought the house. They didn't move into some little house on the

00:23:34.080 prairie log cabin and just keep it like it was. They spent bajillions of dollars gutting that

00:23:38.740 entire structure. I actually watched some of the process with my own eyes as I vacationed 10 minutes

00:23:43.500 away from there. I'm sure this kitchen probably had a nice stove already, but they were already

00:23:47.120 insta-famous when they moved into the farmhouse and Hannah had a vision for what was going to

00:23:52.000 look good on camera next up bet you didn't know that hannah didn't used to dress like little house

00:23:55.780 on the prairie that is a brand new phase and that is just for the camera and she doesn't dress like

00:23:59.140 that when she goes around town again my friends all live in her neighborhood and that is absolutely

00:24:03.880 not how she dresses i know when anyway as you can see that is a much more like honest commentary

00:24:10.500 on this is how simone dresses it's not how she originally dresses but it is how she dresses

00:24:16.780 out and about yeah it went from like fascist chic to yeah if they pulled up an old outfit

00:24:23.740 they'd be like that looks like it was designed after a specific type of uniform and it's like

00:24:30.020 uh nobody there there's many many criticisms that this particular group gets but it is never that

00:24:37.420 they didn't have a great sense of style um that's gonna be such great lore but like imagine like

00:24:43.200 you know my ballerina farms moment when someone's like i bet you didn't know that she used to dress

00:24:48.500 like this like hannah nealman is like this casual like sports fan like shirt and i'm like oh oh no

00:24:55.600 she didn't dress like that no um but everyone knows already anyway the point i'm making with

00:25:02.340 her is that as this as yesteryear came out and people are like oh trad wife bad let's make a

00:25:08.240 fake trad wife straw man suffer this woman is also rising on on sort of trad wife uh hypocrisy

00:25:15.800 um snark content basically trad wives aren't who they say they are their wives are actually

00:25:21.400 horrible this woman was a trad wife and then her husband dumped her for a 20 year old and doesn't

00:25:26.200 pay child support and so you can see at the beginning of this year this rising sentiment

00:25:32.180 and then it just keeps going so uh sorry i'm finding my nose right then nara smith's interview

00:25:39.320 on call her daddy came out on july 20 29th uh it's literally titled nara smith stop calling

00:25:45.480 me a trad wife and which she basically disavowed any association with the trad wife label pointing

00:25:50.440 out right fairly the only bad part about being a parent is the children oh i love them so much

00:25:58.980 then nara smith's interview on call her daddy came out on july 29th literally titled nara smith

00:26:04.980 stopped calling me a trad wife in which she basically disavowed any association with the

00:26:09.440 trad wife label pointing out quite fairly that she's a working mother and that she and her

00:26:14.060 husband lucky shared domestic responsibilities because it's not real and then there's also all

00:26:19.100 this commentary that came out on july 24th before the nara smith that king thing came out on in the

00:26:24.500 New York Times. And this went super viral. And this article, our op-ed came out called

00:26:29.720 Help! I Might Be a Trad Wife, in which this poet named Joanna Novick writes about feeling

00:26:35.740 unexpectedly drawn to aspects of domestic life, like cooking or caring for children or homemaking,

00:26:42.500 while still rejecting the political and ideological associations with tradwifery.

00:26:47.500 And it was such a popular article that it got its own follow-up called Challenging the Trad Wife

00:26:53.760 trend and basically you can see among the new york times set this tension between like oh but

00:27:01.140 like it looks really nice but like no it's evil it's bad it's evil don't do it stop yes they're

00:27:07.900 like don't um and then by july 31st even the daily wire ben shapiro's flagship thing uh was on this

00:27:15.980 trend with this article called why the trad wife movement lost its traction um which basically

00:27:21.440 They argued that isolation is its central flaw, but whoever said that it was isolated, they argued that Treadwifing involves-

00:27:28.540 Yeah, they should hear just everything that Daily Wire does shows they are completely out of touch in every conceivable way.

00:27:33.560 Little connection with reality, because no, Treadwifing is not homesteading.

00:27:38.120 They argue that it involves homesteading, and they also argue its standards become exclusionary, completely, again, misunderstanding what this entire genre is,

00:27:46.820 that the aesthetic gets confused with virtue and that the lifestyle is difficult to sustain

00:27:51.600 and then in september the new york times published her her brand was trad wife now she's divorced

00:27:58.780 about bernadette blunty aka bernadine or sorry bernadine blunty aka bernadine barber who's a

00:28:05.200 former influencer whose public identity was built around this alleged trad wife ideal but ultimately

00:28:11.420 and very publicly she left her husband she got a restraining order she divorced him and then she

00:28:16.300 switched to being an ex-trad wife and a creator just like life take two so now there's this rise

00:28:22.300 of ex-trad wife creators and i think they're again getting that love because women are very

00:28:27.280 drawn to this but they feel like they're not allowed to be drawn to it um so similar to how

00:28:32.960 there was that creator we talked about who would like convince women to not have children with the

00:28:37.420 girl with the list um i feel like this is very similar to that where women want to be reminded

00:28:43.260 did like don't do that i know you want to don't do that bad idea you're gonna get divorced it's

00:28:48.100 gonna go horrible it's this thing that it's not you know you can't do it but here's the thing

00:28:51.760 is there is there a tried wife decline what do you think malcolm i think it's being redefined

00:28:59.080 into what it always was and it's entering a more mature phase as a field i think i mean look i

00:29:05.500 mean you're pulling up the stats this is no it's just google trends it is not going down okay look

00:29:12.140 at this look at this it's i mean it had a big spike um it did the most recent local spike was

00:29:18.120 right around the time that um the new york times published these articles in july so it's gonna

00:29:24.460 and you know that when yesteryear comes out it's gonna spike again it's not it's only gonna go up

00:29:30.240 it's only gonna go up you understand that right because women are not gonna be able to get jobs

00:29:34.460 anymore as ai comes out and then they're look also no and they're gonna be like how do i get

00:29:39.280 men oh men are conservative men want to trad wife like that's how you sell to men these days

00:29:43.600 and well also the idea of the ethot the idea of no as a woman you've got you know your assets okay

00:29:53.720 okay and you you got to bring your assets on the camera right um oh yeah you got it yeah you got

00:30:00.140 to shop your wares you know i'm a cook i'm a whatever yeah yeah and the woman who has a male

00:30:07.080 fan base that likes her because she's a woman right is what the primary way women grow on

00:30:12.960 the internet like let's be honest here okay yeah um and there are only so many looks you can sell

00:30:20.300 to an audience uh for them to be interested in you and well this is one of the the best looks to

00:30:26.280 sell if you think your audience is going to be dubious about previous sexual partners and if

00:30:31.920 you're all only fans i disagree with that i think you're missing the point um so you've got a few

00:30:38.600 looks that you can do okay historically you could go the e-girl route you know sort of dress oh yeah

00:30:45.300 like i will play video games with you and be your best friend and look sexy and and jiggle and

00:30:49.580 everything and that has lost a lot of its appeal there are not many popular e-girls left because

00:30:57.100 it became associated with debauchery and debauchery became uncool in male circles um and so they just

00:31:06.260 like a lot of young girls aren't aren't doing that as much as they used to and it doesn't appeal to

00:31:12.100 the same either the base the second reason is is if you're going to go the debauchery pathway

00:31:17.220 right was in an online environment and it's going to be fictionalized then fully fictionalize it

00:31:25.120 this is why so many of the top twitch streamers are anime girls okay um if you're gonna go lewd

00:31:32.840 then be a lewd anime girl because a lot of people prefer 2d yeah and with 2d you can be as hot as

00:31:39.060 you want and never age and still have all oh yeah but if you're trying to make homemaking your

00:31:43.640 career which is going to become like i think many high achieving women who used to be like career

00:31:48.100 woman are going to return to being careerists well this is like professionally as homemakers

00:31:55.020 if you are selling an image within an online context into a fandom the image of the hot anime

00:32:03.820 girl works right now but the e-girl doesn't right and then it's like okay i'm a woman what else can

00:32:08.580 i sell because i need to sell something that's you know over the top so it sticks with people

00:32:13.200 so it's it's memorable and it also has to be relatable and i think the trad wife is very good

00:32:20.440 at doing that one of the things that's important to note about the trad wife influencer historically

00:32:26.760 up until now is it predominantly was sold to women as a consumer base yeah the primary consumer of

00:32:36.940 trad wife content was not men who wanted a trad wife it was women on tiktok i say this as a man

00:32:44.540 i have never organically seen trad wife content yeah well and let me let me come in with just an

00:32:50.280 additional annotation to that to reinforce your point which is that the one decent take on whatever

00:32:56.820 the backlash the trend whatever you want to call it is evie magazine which is this it's supposed to

00:33:02.620 be like the Cosmo for the conservative woman and they had this article called um god I can't

00:33:09.820 remember but it came out in April and it was basically just arguing that the trad wife trend

00:33:13.760 is just a repeat of something that happened 30 years ago in the 90s where people were freaking

00:33:18.360 out about the unrealistic standards that Martha Stewart was presenting with homemaking and her

00:33:24.000 content I'm the most diehard Martha Stewart fan I love her so much she did exactly the same thing

00:33:32.140 you know like i make all these things elaborate meals there were saturday night live skits all

00:33:36.880 the time about her completely unrealistic standards when it came to homemaking and meal prep and just

00:33:42.020 like all the modern trad wives today her work did not represent a religious ideal it did not even

00:33:47.700 represent a married woman this is a single divorced mom um who runs her business empire and sells

00:33:54.540 products at kmart and has books and video tapes and everything that she sold but this is this is

00:34:00.180 where i think they're missing what's happening and you're missing what's happening because i do

00:34:03.880 think we are entering a new era of the trad wife we yeah i do which is where you're going a

00:34:09.020 trad wife with a male audience um which is not historically big and i think the model of that

00:34:18.120 form of trad wife that is probably archetypical would be you um you are very much this new form

00:34:24.340 of trad wife uh that talks to a male audience and you're not the only uh another good example

00:34:30.640 is um bridget whatever the the lady we met at heretic on who has the other channels sort of

00:34:37.360 like ours pretty big um what am i thinking of bridget bridget ph something fantasy bridget

00:34:44.460 fantasy yeah bridget fantasy um which is to say that it's not about uh overly leaning into it's

00:34:52.300 sort of a model that's defined by i think two things above all else um the first is they're in

00:34:58.920 a happy long-term partnership uh where they have taken on a feminine role and second is they do not

00:35:08.000 depict themselves as sexualized um and this is very different than the way women historically

00:35:14.580 uh sold themselves if a woman had a husband that was not a front and center thing about her life

00:35:20.860 was in a media context because guys wanted to be able to fantasize that the woman didn't have a

00:35:26.980 husband right like oh i'm lusting after this whatever but now i think to be authentic with

00:35:33.420 guys if you still don't have a husband and you are you know an agent content creator or something

00:35:40.620 like that the assumption is what's going on here like what's behind the scenes why why does if

00:35:48.700 you're selling all of these ideas about, you know,

00:35:51.460 being loyal to a guy and getting married and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:35:55.200 having kids, uh,

00:35:56.940 just saving your people or whatever you want to say,

00:35:59.620 and you're not married. Uh, that comes off as very hypocritical.

00:36:03.560 And I think that that worked for a period.

00:36:05.980 I think this is where we've seen the drop in credibility of Nick Fuentes,

00:36:09.240 for example, right? Like, um, as I pointed out before, he,

00:36:12.020 he chastised fans when they got married, right? Like that's when they were.

00:36:16.020 He did? Wait, I didn't know that.

00:36:17.460 You sound like a faggot, and you're going to hell with your ugly dog-of-a-woman wife.

00:36:23.440 So, people like you are what's wrong with this country.

00:36:27.420 People like you are worse than trannies, frankly.

00:36:30.300 People like you are sort of worse than the worst part of the problem.

00:36:36.240 So, busy with wife and kids doing what?

00:36:39.060 Being a cuck?

00:36:40.580 Busy being schlepping around bags for your wife?

00:36:44.740 I was busy doing my wife's makeup. I was busy. My wife was doing my makeup

00:36:50.800 Busy playing tea party with your baby girls stay-at-home dad while your wife makes some money

00:36:57.200 Is that it?

00:36:59.200 What does that even mean busy with the wife and kids doing what I think they're pretty self-sufficient aren't they they should be

00:37:05.300 Busy with the wife and kids going to going on what play dates?

00:37:09.580 What does that mean busy with the wife and kids? What do you mean by that?

00:37:14.740 So, yeah, sounds like you should get back to playing princess with your wife and your daughter or whatever.

00:37:19.880 Sounds like you should get back to cleaning your wife's, you know, period up.

00:37:26.980 Period up.

00:37:27.980 Sounds like you should get back to braiding your wife's hair or whatever it is that you do with your fucking wife.

00:37:33.980 Glad I stopped watching the show to get dragged to the garlic festival with my wife.

00:37:38.660 Yeah, okay, buddy.

00:37:40.380 Well, yeah, sounds like you should get back to it.

00:37:42.240 Chop, chop.

00:37:42.800 her hair is not going to braid itself

00:37:45.820 but

00:37:47.980 anyway

00:37:50.280 incels aren't sad

00:37:52.420 incels are glad

00:37:53.460 and

00:37:55.200 we're going to kill you

00:37:57.460 so anyway

00:37:59.560 no this person who is crashing out on

00:38:02.380 I just donated I think $50 to him

00:38:04.560 and when people are like

00:38:06.080 wow you seem to be very aggressively

00:38:08.340 against people like

00:38:10.300 Nick Fuentes I mean this is why

00:38:11.940 It's this fakeness to everything that they say they care about to say, I'm concerned about a decreasing number of births within this population and then make fun of aggressively say they would kill someone of that population.

00:38:26.420 The guy explicitly said we're a white family when they get married, when they begin having kids shows he doesn't care about this at all.

00:38:35.220 and this is what you see i think with all people in this group when people act like aggressively

00:38:40.340 racist towards groups i also see them act like this they don't actually care anyone could tell

00:38:47.400 you that aggressive racism doesn't serve the purpose that any anyone displaying it says that

00:38:55.940 they're trying to achieve yeah fan reached out and was like telling him that he was excited to

00:39:00.640 finally get married and he basically made fun of him and called him i think a fag or something

00:39:06.080 but it was very thing you can do i think like mask off for a lot of people like oh he doesn't

00:39:13.020 actually care about any of the values that he says he cares about like he just cares about being the

00:39:17.980 center of a personality cult right like and and this would be obvious if you looked at any of his

00:39:22.440 strategy like it just wouldn't work it's it's obviously going to lose and it's obviously going

00:39:27.160 to lose the culture war which you know fortunately he's been increasingly frozen or chosen more and

00:39:33.500 more of a losing side on um obviously the big fear is he ends up partnering with like

00:39:38.380 biden jr uh and ends up uh doing something there because he could do well among the democrats

00:39:45.060 which would be worrying but okay um but by the way i love the harry potter song that i i put

00:39:53.140 out yesterday where I have Harry Potter take on like the griper role and Malfoy to take on the

00:40:00.420 role of like the nerdy new right person. And I thought it was fun. A lot of people were upset

00:40:07.780 that Malfoy would not be okay with like the more extreme griper mindset. And I really liked it

00:40:16.260 because I was like, well, I don't think Malfoy would. I think Malfoy would be like, what do you

00:40:21.400 like obviously this isn't an effective way to win anything and i i thought that you

00:40:26.480 had like put thought into this you weren't just being like edgy for the sake of being edgy and

00:40:31.740 hateful um and i i think that a lot of people are who who thought that they could do that or that

00:40:38.240 they'd get social points for doing that that currency is drying up at the same time as all

00:40:42.680 of this at the same time it's a feminine currency for pretending to want to be a wife right you can

00:40:49.440 only do that for so many years when people are like okay so why aren't you a mom yet you know

00:40:53.420 why aren't you a wife yet why didn't you do the thing uh and so i think that's why we're going to

00:41:00.520 see an increase in married female conservative influencers uh one of one of the the questions i

00:41:08.520 have is i think this will also likely correspond with a decrease in married female democratic

00:41:13.960 influencers or left-wing influencers why do you say that so there's a few reasons i think that

00:41:20.360 being married and being in a happy long-term relationship i was just gonna code i actually

00:41:26.700 think that's malcolm that's already the case remember that one sub stack we went over oh yeah

00:41:31.380 we did a piece on feminist and like this woman was married this woman was married but it sounded

00:41:36.500 like she hated her husband well at least performatively there was the article on how like

00:41:40.660 being married like was beginning to become not cool and like you know you you don't want to tell

00:41:45.960 people you're married you get embarrassed to you know um right yeah that's true so we're actually

00:41:53.400 already seeing this yeah we're already there but the thing is whether the ai renaissance turns out

00:42:01.420 to be a horror story for humans or it ends up being really you know great and all humans live

00:42:06.200 in abundance and luxury there's gonna be a rise in homemaking regardless malcolm because people

00:42:11.700 aren't gonna be working so this genre of content which ultimately is and by the way trad wife

00:42:20.220 content is only idealized snapshots related to homemaking could be like getting eggs out of a

00:42:27.840 coop gardening fixing things uh decorating your house or making food that is what homemaking is

00:42:34.180 like homemaking content basically kind of all people are going to be doing you know like in a

00:42:40.240 post-ai age and it's going to grow this is not on the decline and people are just going to keep

00:42:45.860 rorschach testing it and like acting as though it means something more than that when it never has

00:42:51.260 martha stewart was not a religious like promoter not married not living a certain lifestyle she

00:42:58.480 was and and not not uh not trad you know she was running a business again well i think that there's

00:43:03.100 authentic trad and inauthentic trad and i don't i don't think that's the case people just call it

00:43:07.680 trad wifery and they're like this is sitting on realistic standards it never sets standards

00:43:12.980 it just it just fetishized elements of home life that are lovely because i disagree with what

00:43:19.740 you're saying i am as i was saying i think that there are two types of trad wife influencers

00:43:24.240 okay there are authentic and inauthentic trad wife influencers and i think they appeal to

00:43:29.260 two different demographics uh the inauthentic trad wife influencers appeal to female audiences

00:43:35.900 these are the ones who are going over the top and who are doing things in ways that are obviously

00:43:40.100 unsustainable and the reason why females prefer to watch that is because just look at any of the

00:43:47.280 female popular things that have gone big in the past like cottagecore goblin core you know any

00:43:52.680 any of the women women putting things away in drawers yeah it's always over the top over

00:44:00.600 curated over overdone like it's you clearly couldn't live in any of these aesthetics in

00:44:08.100 any real context it would be a nightmare to maintain it's not just the trad wife that is

00:44:13.400 the nightmare to maintain it's every single one of these contexts that's a nightmare to maintain

00:44:18.860 and obviously no one is really living dark at academia or cottage core or goblin core or

00:44:23.900 whatever they are aspirational aesthetics and aspirational aesthetics only appeal to women

00:44:29.240 what the long term of that side of the trad wife movement is i don't know because i simply cannot

00:44:35.480 empathize it's just not going to change it's just that there's going to be more demand for it

00:44:39.420 because again people are going to be unemployed but if you look at the other side the authentic

00:44:43.540 trad wife what is the authentic trad wife that's what i just went over you would be an example of

00:44:48.560 no i'm not i'm not that there no one would associate me with trad wifery because i don't

00:44:53.460 okay let's do you not think that leftists think that you're a trad wife no no they absolutely do

00:45:01.220 they think i'm a hipster eugenicist fascist nazi they think you're a trad wife no i i y'all can

00:45:09.500 chime in in the comments i don't think this is you you cook meals you live yeah that's not

00:45:16.500 yeah that's not a content beat no that but that's not what a trout wife is but that's not the genre

00:45:22.720 that is not how you as a woman no man is going to consume the very narrow type of content that

00:45:30.880 you call trout wife content yeah you're basically what's the point this was never for men it's just

00:45:35.980 like makeup that was never for men there are many men that do want content with a traditional wife

00:45:44.800 i don't think that's true because i see zero male demand for it then why is our channel doing so

00:45:51.740 well these days why like do you not get because malcolm our our channel is base camp aka women

00:45:59.680 are terrible it's a woman talking about a married woman talking about women being no it's a smart

00:46:06.980 man who's like oh poor dumb wife let me explain to you how things actually you're drafting all of

00:46:14.620 the anti-women episode you drafted this episode i don't come up with these misogynistic ideas

00:46:20.460 you're right but that's not trad wife content it's just not it's just not well people can

00:46:25.120 answer you're so confused i think you're completely wrong on this one i think it's a new form of

00:46:29.580 trad wife content that's targeted at men and you don't like being boxed so are you trying to say

00:46:34.720 that like they're they it's not like they do a ton of stuff together but you're kind of saying

00:46:38.580 like darling straub and rev says desu are trad wife content because exactly a couple are you

00:46:43.500 trying to say that um what's the disney couple i mean clownfish tv you're trying to say they're

00:46:48.800 a trad wife because yes obviously no malcolm that's not what no that is that is a complete

00:46:53.320 there's a different name for it if there was one there's a different name for it yet hold on

00:46:57.800 hold on if it's something other than a trad wife what is the different name for it

00:47:02.020 a couple's channels i guess like the corporate family content for it there isn't a name for it

00:47:09.480 You just showed you didn't know another name for it.

00:47:11.640 There is another, because nothing has been coined.

00:47:13.780 I don't think it's been recognized as a genre.

00:47:16.060 It's not like people are like,

00:47:17.180 huh, I'm hankering for content

00:47:19.440 done by a wholesome couple that loves each other.

00:47:21.660 I'm going to turn on Clownfish TV.

00:47:23.240 I'm going to watch Rev Says Desu content.

00:47:25.720 They don't do that.

00:47:27.560 Oh, also, um, Rotten Mango.

00:47:30.080 Rotten Mango is another example of this.

00:47:31.620 I don't think you watch any Rotten Mango, like, videos,

00:47:34.540 but there is such a cute couple.

00:47:36.020 You never see the husband.

00:47:37.280 I don't know what he looks like,

00:47:38.300 But he always talks with his wife while she talks about, like, salacious things or tragic things, people being murdered.

00:47:44.720 There is such a thing as couple videos.

00:47:47.900 There is, but you can't search it.

00:47:49.440 It's not, like, hashtagged.

00:47:51.000 No, no.

00:47:51.740 The point I'm making is none of the people who I just went through are a couple channel.

00:47:56.800 Couple channels offer a very different experience.

00:47:59.940 They are about a young, attractive couple talking about something.

00:48:03.100 Oh, yeah, those are gross.

00:48:04.260 I hate those.

00:48:04.940 No.

00:48:05.140 yeah this what i'm talking about as i've said a defining feature of the trad wife content

00:48:11.340 is her husband is known and she isn't sexualized um that if you if you watch uh for example clown

00:48:20.640 fish tv a husband very known character is never sexualized another great channel barrington

00:48:27.380 barring husband is known wife is never sex well i mean he does call her sugar tits but i mean

00:48:32.940 she's not meant to be sexy to the audience um it's i've not heard of them okay yeah you should

00:48:38.960 watch it it's a great channel i find it very funny they're an australian couple um uh and they

00:48:44.500 do content that is uh very yeah it's like very similar to ours i'm gonna be honest uh not as

00:48:50.820 intellectual but you know more like rev level like cultural but but maybe a bit higher that's

00:48:55.840 not just responding to twitter or something um but if you uh straub straub used to be sexualized

00:49:01.920 She had a period where she was sexualized.

00:49:03.820 And then she went forward through this whole,

00:49:05.700 I'm Christian now.

00:49:06.500 I'm deleting all my ASMR content.

00:49:08.300 I'm deleting all that.

00:49:09.180 I'm going to be dedicated to my husband.

00:49:10.600 We're going to have a kid together.

00:49:11.640 I'm going to try to make more wholesome content.

00:49:13.720 She went through a change that I think shows

00:49:15.900 this is what you do when you become a Trout-a-Wife.

00:49:18.080 You delete all your old sexy videos online,

00:49:20.540 which, you know, unfortunately you didn't have.

00:49:23.700 So you weren't able to come out and be like,

00:49:26.040 I repudiate back when I was sexy.

00:49:29.140 Or try to be.

00:49:30.500 i didn't try malcolm i know you never tried you never tried to be sexy she never tried to lure in

00:49:39.160 any man with her sex appeal imagine being a woman and just not using sex appeal to lure people

00:49:45.060 because i think women who use their sex appeal to lure people know that it's there

00:49:51.360 and you don't think you have sex appeal you have we have fans who like actively dislike me because

00:49:59.320 have crushes on you you are aware of that right any any um regard for me would be so guys had

00:50:06.900 crushes on me they didn't have crushes on me because that was sexy they had crushes on me

00:50:10.860 because i showed interest in what they were talking about and paid attention to them and

00:50:14.900 affirmed them and they assumed that that was but you're not doing that with our audience you're

00:50:19.840 just here to be sexy look at that you go all you're doing is showing off your boobs jiggling

00:50:25.120 juggling them around for the audience oh my god i think we've made our point with this episode

00:50:31.120 i'm holding fast to mind though which is this concept is completely misunderstood because it's

00:50:36.740 just aspirational like vacation snapshots of home life that's all it is people fetishize it women

00:50:42.720 are talking about it a lot because there's a lot of tension they want it but they don't feel like

00:50:46.800 they're allowed to want it it's been around for a very long time as is exemplified by martha stewart

00:50:52.500 And it's only going to get bigger because we ain't going to have jobs.

00:50:55.500 I hold to my point, which is that we are moving into the era of neotrad or post-trad, which is trad wives and AI videos.

00:51:03.940 Well, I think like corporate family content is probably going to go up like content creator studios, essentially, that are entire families, husband and wife teams and maybe their kids.

00:51:15.860 Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, it's like the Exodus that's pretending.

00:51:22.500 it's it's interesting for example that i think people are trying to frame nara smith's attempt

00:51:29.380 to distance herself from the trad wife label as some like oh this is suddenly a toxic concept

00:51:35.180 when really she was never part of it she was always just posting aspirational martha stewart

00:51:40.120 style videos and using that hashtag because it obviously helps to draw traffic but she's not an

00:51:46.480 idiot anyway i love you bye i love you bye gosh pointing out that this is our software we literally

00:51:55.620 coded our own recording and editing software yeah i really like the new software you built for this

00:52:00.920 yeah we previously used a different a different platform and then he was just like i like this

00:52:05.120 pattern like savages paying people like savages all right shall i do a quick entry for this one

00:52:11.160 sure do you have one planned talk about in in this podcast tradwise tradwise yeah okay so could

00:52:19.140 you maybe you could do a small intro and then i'm going to switch from so i can get absolutely

00:52:23.520 of you and yeah like pretend that you're actually doing this yeah we had a french journalist over

00:52:31.720 who wanted to watch us record an episode so that's who's in the background uh and for people

00:52:36.420 who don't know we have a journal so for about once every i don't know once every other week

00:52:40.520 equals every third week these days just a lot of people want to talk about us so that's cool

00:52:45.840 potter things they're delightful great way to advertise the uh the snape one i did about uh

00:52:52.360 the allegory for being trans where snape turns black yeah that one i literally didn't even

00:52:57.360 review i just gave it a song and the lyrics and i said finish it end to end that's why it has so

00:53:03.600 many mistakes in it but i think that shows how good an output you can get without review

00:53:08.480 that's crazy and i changed our api so you don't even need to issue yourself an api anymore you

00:53:15.520 can just go to rfab.ai backslash api and it will automatically give you something you can copy and

00:53:21.040 paste into any lln oh yeah yeah it will always allow you to use rfab whenever you want going

00:53:27.400 forwards for basically it gives your ai the ability to make images videos graphics 3d art

00:53:35.900 and a lot of tools, music and a lot of tools for the AI to transform that stuff into something

00:53:42.200 cool. You know, like it doesn't just give it that stuff. It also includes all the instructions that

00:53:47.940 it needs to use it well. A lot of it actually came from Sky Browse. Like we went through

00:53:52.320 his advice on building stuff and we built that into an API that AIs can use more easily.

00:53:58.240 because he's the best my gosh okay where had we left off with this episode you didn't make a note

00:54:07.200 do you remember anything i like dissociate when we're around journalists

00:54:12.200 potter sit down and put down your quill i took this from a muggle and i'm feeling quite ill

00:54:23.940 It's a glowing black mirror they carry all day

00:54:28.740 And it shows them whatever they ask it to display

00:54:35.140 And I found an archive, fanfiction.net

00:54:40.380 I've read Riddle's diary and this scared me worse yet

00:54:43.960 Ten thousand new stories a day, Potter new

00:54:47.240 And let me just tell you what's in them

00:54:50.080 It's ew

00:54:51.020 Our werewolves are monsters, the full moon's a date

00:54:54.320 We lock ours in cellars, they'd use them to mate

00:54:57.820 Vampires, they sparkle, dementors, they kiss

00:55:01.180 It sucks out your soul, and they're queuing for this

00:55:04.500 The merpeople grey with their spears in their teeth

00:55:07.980 And the muggles all ask, what do they have underneath?

00:55:11.760 And centaurs would trample you, calling one steed

00:55:15.060 There are muggles who think that's just what they need

00:55:18.360 I mean, have you ever seen a centaur's logistics?

00:55:22.360 Your insides would look like they were hit with ballistics.

00:55:27.380 I thought we'd go to war and we'd win it with luck.

00:55:31.720 But if we face them, they just want to fuck.

00:55:35.360 Lick the statute of secrecy and then they want to be subjected and put in a pen.

00:55:44.460 Oh God, the statue that stands in the hall.

00:55:48.360 Magic is might, the most dreadful of all. A witch and a wizard enthroned on a pile of naked muggles and stoned. We carved it to inspire fear, to show every muggle where not they appear.

00:56:05.200 So I searched if they'd queue round the block

00:56:07.820 There's a forum of muggles who'd pay to be rock

00:56:11.880 They don't call it torture, they'd call it a scene

00:56:15.380 They'd ask for a safe word, and then for a queen

00:56:18.760 Yaxley's cruelest idea, set in black stone

00:56:22.340 And the top comment asks

00:56:24.100 Is there one for my hoe?

00:56:28.780 And Potter just smirked, which I did not enjoy

00:56:31.960 He said, have you searched your own name?

00:56:34.780 Oh, that boy? Fine, I'm a Malfoyd. They'll write that I'm feared.

00:56:40.100 I typed it, it loaded. How are these muggles reared?

00:56:43.860 There was art, there were stories galore.

00:56:47.760 Two hundred thousand and I won't say what for.

00:56:50.920 Why's my name glued to yours with a little slash mark?

00:56:54.580 Why's, what are these tags? Oh, gosh, that got dark.

00:56:57.740 Wait, how is that even possible? Is he charmed? That is not what it's for.

00:57:03.340 I am alarmed

00:57:05.500 Give it here, Potter, no, Potter, it's mine

00:57:09.120 Don't search, everything's fine

00:57:12.480 There's no drarry, ignore the lot

00:57:15.760 Or I'll obliviate you right on the spot

00:57:19.760 I thought we'd go to war and we'd win it with luck

00:57:25.720 But you face them, they just want to fuck

00:57:29.200 They don't fear they will be hexed

00:57:31.940 The only thing they fear is they won't get sexed

00:57:35.440 It's not like I wanted to read it

00:57:38.440 It was for science

00:57:41.940 Stop smiling!

00:57:44.940 I won't stand this defiance

00:57:51.940 BAKA!

00:57:58.940 BAKA!

00:58:01.940 Thank you.

Based Camp - October 08, 2026

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