Whistleblower： ＂Trans Cult in NSA!＂
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Summary
The National Security Agency has a secret sex chat room where they discuss polyamory and transgender surgeries, and also sexting each other. Also, there's a trans cult inside the NSA and a plan to fix the economy.
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Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be talking to you today. This is a crazy thing that's happening,
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but we're going to be going over three articles, but two of the articles just to give you some
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spice to start this up. Whistleblower, there's a trans cult inside the NSA.
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And then the other one that we'll be going over is the NSA's secret sex chats. Intelligence
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officials maintained a chat room to discuss polyamory and transgender surgeries,
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and also it appears to sext each other. Internal documents reveal.
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Well, that's what they're doing on our dime is convincing people to transition and sexting
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The NSA, I mean, they manage, they're the ones that have the giant data center that slurps up all of
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They monitor all of the world's communications. This is what Snowden was, you know, fighting
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against. This organization is apparently intensely infected with the urban monocultural virus.
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They are potentially using it to enforce their values on everyday Americans. And here, I just
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need to say, Elon, we need you here, buddy. I was reminded recently of this scene.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the president of America.
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I know she's bad right now with all that starving bullshit, but I got a solution.
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Now, I understand everyone's shit's emotional right now, but listen up.
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I got a three point plan to fix everything. Number one, we got this guy.
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Number two, he's got a higher IQ than any man alive.
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You know, I wanted to find somebody smarter than him. I searched all over. I just couldn't
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I couldn't find anyone smarter, right? So we had it for the country.
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Number three, he's going to fix everything. I give you my word as president. He's going
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to fix the dust on the street. I give you my word. He's going to fix the comedy. He's
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And this is not what Trump is. I found the smartest guy in the world and he's going to
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No, there are lines of Trump being like, he's the smartest guy I could find. I looked
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I looked for smarter people. It's literally Camacho.
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And I love when people are like, Camacho has empathy. Trump has empathy. You just don't
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see it because your brainwashed nutter butters. But anyway, let's start with this chat here
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because this gets crazy. The first article is going to describe the situation. And I'm
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just taking the excerpts from it that I thought were most interesting. And then the second article
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is going to be parts of an interview with the whistleblower or one of the whistleblowers
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because there's been two. We have cultivated sources within the National Security Agency,
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that's the NSA, one current employee and one former employee who have provided chat logs
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from the NSA's interlink messaging program. According to an NSA press official, all NSA
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employees sign agreements stating that publishing non-mission related material on interlink is a
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usage violation and will result in disciplinary action. Nonetheless, these logs dating back two
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years are lurid featuring wide ranging discussions of sex, kink, polyamory and castration. One popular
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topic was male to female transgender surgery, which involves surgically removing the penis and turning
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it into an artificial vagina. Quote, mine is everything, said one male who claimed to have had gender
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reconstruction surgery. I found that I like being penetrated. Never before liked it. GRS. He goes on to say
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another intelligence official boasted that genital surgery allowed him to, quote, to wear leggings or
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bikinis without having to wear a gaff under it, end quote. So that's convenient to not have to talk.
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Yes. And again, they're misgendering in the article here. It was in city journals, like a mainstream
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publication, but I guess it's the whistleblowers that misgender. I try not to misgender because it's
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their weird religion and they believe it. Excuse me, are y'all with the cult? We're not a cult.
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We're an organization that promotes love. Yeah, this is it. And so like, why not, you know, just show
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respect? It doesn't hurt me. But I can understand if for religious reasons, you have to say what you
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think you are looking at and dealing with, why you might have some trouble doing that.
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It's trying to be nice to someone and you can't always succeed at that. But if you have the
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bandwidth, why not? The clue that is the holy guide to living pure. This will help explain. First.
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Her name's Lorraine, too. We're all Lorraine and you will be Todd. A name chosen especially for you.
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Oh, you're an oppressed minority. You're a cult.
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Yeah, I mean, I think Scientologists are wackadoos, but like, I try to be like, yeah,
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you know, they had something that they wanted to. Yeah. Yeah.
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Be nice if you can. Yeah. These employees discussed hair removal, estrogen injections,
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and the experience of sexual pleasure post castration. Quote, getting my butthole zapped
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by a laser was shocking, said one transgender identifying Intel employee who spent thousands
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on hair removal. Look, I just enjoy helping other people experience boobs, in quote, said another
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about estrogen treatments. Oh. So one of the weirdest things, no, he's saying he's hitting on people.
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You understand that, right? He's doing his part. Well, he's just sharing, he's adding more pits to
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the world. And then quote, one of the weirdest things that gives me euphoria is when I pee, I don't have
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to push anything down to make sure it aims right. A defense intelligence agency employee added,
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according to our sources, the sex chats were legitimized as part of the NSA's commitment to,
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quote, diversity, equity, and inclusion. Activists was in the agency used LGBTQ plus
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employee groups to turn kinks and pathologies into official work duties. According to the current NSA
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employee, these groups, quote, spent all day recruiting activists and holding meetings with
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titles such as privilege, ally awareness, pride, and transgender community inclusion.
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So this is where I have to draw the line. You know, if you talk in your own time about what you want
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to talk about, fine. But if you are literally spending your government paid work hours doing this
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at the expense of your actual work task, what is happening?
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And the NSA leadership declared of this sort of DEI, not only is it mission critical,
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it's mission imperative. And so by the way, the last article that we're going to go over,
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which I don't know if you've read yet, is an article about these people from their own perspective
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and them being afraid that these agencies are being cleaned up.
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Yeah. Trump has found some very interesting ways to clean up the spread of this cult.
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And note, I call this a cult because this is not, you know, when you're talking about like the
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modern trans movement, this is not like the gay movement. Gay people have existed throughout
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human history. They exist in pretty much every culture on earth. Trans people are, i.e. being
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obsessed with which gender you are seen as and recreational gender transition, i.e. gender
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transition for your own benefit is completely unique to our culture. It doesn't seem to have existed at
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any other point in human history. The instances that they will point to of it, like two spirits or the
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thing in India, the two spirits, they're just talking about tweets. The thing in Thailand and
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the thing in, I think, New Zealand where this is done, clearly it's gay males who have a preference
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for the types of jobs. I think they're also just people who are more, more gender fluid and people
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just didn't really care. Like if someone just dressed a little differently or just didn't really
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seem that feminine or masculine for the most part, nobody cared. And they just did their thing.
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Cross-dresses and stuff like that has existed. Cross-dressing has existed. We see this deep into
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like Roman history and stuff like that. But when people did it, they never had an obsession was
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being seen as that particular gender expression. That is completely unique and appears to be the
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thing that is correlated with an increased desire to unalive themselves with a 40 to 50 percent
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attempted unaliving rate within this community that apparently is a completely cultural phenomenon.
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And when you ask people in the community, why are you doing it? It's like, well, because I'm not
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seen as my, you know, this, this, they say, if I can't be seen this way, I'm going to unalign
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myself. That's like super unique to our culture. The idea of like, oh, would you rather have a trans
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child or a dead child? Like that is not the way transness worked, i.e. gender, gender fluidity has
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ever worked in human history. Yeah. That's, that's why we see it as, as toxic and something that is
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dangerous. Well, I think if anything, some kind of forced quasi-medical transition has only ever
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been until very recently, a form of punishment, for example, chemical castration imposed upon
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gay men in history. And also like some cultures being like, oh, you're gay. Well, then we're going
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to force you to become a woman because then you're correct. There's a few counter examples where young
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boys who have, you were a particularly good singer to preserve your voice. Oh yeah. Maybe, or if your
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family was really poor and that was the one way to make money, I don't think they can.
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The other example is groups in India, which trans people claim are a form of trans when what it is,
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is boys who grow up in poverty who get castrated so that they can make more money in sex work
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pretending to be women. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's, that's, that's still not great.
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It was never done. It was never like a little boy or a little girl would hope for the privilege of
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some equivalent of, of forced sex change. Yeah. There might be some counter examples of this,
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but, but I would agree with you that like, if you're contrasting this to something like the
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gay phenomenon, like same sex attraction, uh, you, you are not going to see a desire like
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medically transition, which has existed for a long time. I mean, castration to look more like a woman
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has existed for a long time. This being a popular phenomenon that people sought out is nowhere.
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Like if you're using gayness as like the counter to this, it's basically non-existent cross-culturally
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or historically. It's a completely local phenomenon. Note here, don't take my word for this. If you do
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not believe me on this particular issue, the thing that's going to convince you most is to just look
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up different cultural groups that trans people claim to be examples of transness within other
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cultures or history, then look up descriptions of them. And you will find that they always fall
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into one of three categories. It's either gender non-conforming twink gays who like doing women-like
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professions like wedding planning and stuff like that. And the culture has a very rigid concept of
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gender. So it conceptualizes them as women. It's not that they're like desperate to be seen as women
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or anything like that. Male cross-dressers who, you know, you, you see some like emperors from Roman
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time where this is clearly like a sex thing for them or sex workers being forced to pretend to be
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women or to look more like women to get more sex work. Now it exists in other cultures because it's
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been exported, but I mean, modern local phenomenon. In this case, diversity was not a byword for
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racialism, but rather a euphemism for sex talk. Last January, chat room members discussed their
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practice of polyamory or ethical non-monogamy. Quote, a polycule is a polyamorous group. One employee
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explained, quote, a, as in my girlfriend and BG and her partners, then B and C are dating, but not C and D
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nor EF and G with any of the others. Though there are several MWBs met as with benefits connections.
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Another employee claimed to be part of a nine member polycule adding that, quote, some of our friends are
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particularly polymers with all of the connected compounds as a joke about polymers. But yeah,
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so this is about their, their big sex groups. And I actually don't find this is, is, it's not
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necessarily sex groups. I would argue that polyamory is way more about the like new relationship energy
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or social connection than it is ultimately about sex. Cause otherwise you just have like more free
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sex groups or swingers or something like that. Polyamory is way more. But my problem with this
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again is the man to be polyamorous, especially to have active, that person with nine active partners
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is basically a full-time job. Yeah. Most of the people we've met have a lot of partners and actively
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court them. They either don't have hobbies or their, their job is happening at work, which is what I
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expect. They're, they're doing while they're flirting at work and just not working. At other times,
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the conversation became explicit. The active source at the NSA claimed to have witnessed hundreds of
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sexually provocative discussions, which he added occurred mostly on taxpayer time. The former NSA
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source who was familiar with these chats recalled being quote unquote disgusted by a particularly
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shocking thread discussing weekend quote unquote gang bangs. The NSA sources. Well, Hey, on the weekends,
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on the weekends, that's good. Gang bangs aren't happening at work. The NSA sources also raised questions of
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some staffers mental fitness for the job in one chat. An NSA employee insisted on using it pronouns
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in lieu of he or she pronouns. It seems so dehumanizing. Like I would feel very uncomfortable
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using it as a pronoun just because it. Yeah. It sounds like what the other side made up to make fun of
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these. Yeah. Don't choose that one. Choose anything. So the person said it it's user here. Well,
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I understand we can make some people uncomfortable. Keep in mind that the dehumanizing aspect either a
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doesn't apply or B is a positive effect when we're requesting it. Oh, so there is explicitly discussing
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the dehumanizing aspect here. So, so listen to this. They're basically saying I get off on being
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dehumanized. They're saying it it's user here. Well, I understand it can make some people uncomfortable.
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Keep in mind that dehumanizing aspect either doesn't apply or it is a positive effect when
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we're requesting it. They are. And this is what we talk about with the trans community where the
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gay community just wanted to be able to do their own thing. The trans community is trying to force
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you to do something. They are with like the it and stuff like that. They are trying to force you
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to participate in something that is generating a positive emotional response in them that they will
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swear isn't sexual in nature, but like being dehumanized. I'm sorry. Nobody gets off on being
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dehumanized for anything other than a sexual reason. They are trying to force everyone they interact
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with at work to engage in their dehumanization fetish. Yeah, that's, that's not, that's again,
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this is forcing other people to consent to something that they don't consent to. I'm not down with that.
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A commenter who disagreed with this was quickly dismissed by employees of NSA and CIA who claimed
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that refusing to use it, its pronouns, erasing a transgender identity. This was NSA and CIA.
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Oh, we've got to cut. Elon needs to go full Twitter on these organizations. He says,
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these are folks with top secret experiences. Believe that they are an it. That is shocking.
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So now to the actual interview they did with the whistleblower after, after the story went out and
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then did the rounds. So the whistleblower says about 10 years ago, they started doing the employee
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resource groups, African-Americans, veterans, pride. It was just a meeting here and there,
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almost like a potluck culture, food, a speech. Then it started to get more and more instead of just one
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day a month. It was one week or a whole month. You could get hired as a mathematician, a staff
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officer, or a assistant engineer, but you would spend your time going to these events and having
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meetings all day about it. You got to do positions and help craft policy and started pushing the idea
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that if you wanted to be promoted, you had to participate in these events. And then everything
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became pride. You would go to training and it would be about privilege and how to be a better ally.
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A lady would give classes on how to talk gender neutral to people. You had an analyst that didn't
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want to do the reporting they were supposed to be doing because they were going to have to report
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on somebody's quote-unquote dead name. Oh no! This crisis of conscience about reporting the
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adversary's actual name because they thought it was their quote-unquote dead name and they didn't want
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to disrespect the person. It was like a cult that was hell-bent on pushing gender ideology.
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This is not good. No, who knows? At the NSA, you need- The whole organization had become
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completely bloated with this self-replicating memetic set, which was eating more and more
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department resources and reorienting the department's role around spreading and protecting the cult,
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which is really what you have to call it because this is anti-science. This is not what the science
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supports anymore. So what is this? It is scary that our CIA and NSA are being used for this.
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Who knows if we get on a watch list or something now? I hope that- As if we weren't already. I don't
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know. Elon, Trump, and JD. All right. So then Rufo, Chris Rufo, the guy who did this break.
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Fantastic, right? Anyway, so he says, it seems like a clique of very activist male to female
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transgender agents. Tell me about this community. And then the guy says, there's a very small number
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of them, but they wield an enormous amount of power. And outside of the sick stuff, you also see
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prevalent Marxist philosophy going on with these people in their chat rooms. They hate capitalism.
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They hate Christians. They're always espousing socialist or Marxist beliefs. I know several
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people at the agency who brought up that like, quote, hey, we're here to fight for the USA and to go
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after the adversaries. And they got hammered. They would just start coming out with transphobe
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or homophobe right away, calling you a racist, just saying we're here to fight for the USA.
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And that's why a lot of folks are still hesitant to say anything, because they still have people at
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these agencies who are in those key spots. It infected everything.
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My God, these guys are like mirror world Ron Swanson's, where they just are there to slow down
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No, they, I promise they want to use the government to hurt people. That's their goal,
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to hurt everyday Americans. That's why they want the power. That's why they want within these
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organizations. Yeah. Cause that's my, my big thing is why are you working for the NSA?
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If you are a Marxist trans person who doesn't believe that the NSA is going to utilize the
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organization to police other people. Remember the episode we did where we found out that people
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who use the word red pill or. Oh yeah. Yes. Oh, I forgot.
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Yeah. I guess this is, this is all part of sort of the same collective movement of mission creep
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and organizational capture whereby, yeah, really powerful organizations are now used
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not to protect the interests of American citizens, but to push an ideological agenda that actually
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runs counter to the interests of most American citizens.
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Exactly. And then what is the outcome? Rufo is asking, in your view, does such a focus on
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DEI and trans ideology degree, the actual intelligence activity to the agency?
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It does because you have people more focused on this ideology and the folks who aren't into
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this, don't put the effort into their work. I don't care if you're political left or right.
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You can't have an unbiased mind. If you're writing a report and you're constantly focused on quote,
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how does this apply to gender ideology in quote? Because when you do that, it's going to get
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people killed in the field. These people are likely getting people killed, you know, because
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they're not even like, they're not doing their jobs. But I think that this guy is wrong and he
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doesn't understand the organization has been transformed from an organization that's about
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protecting American rights. Cause this is what we saw was Reddit. Remember we pointed out in the one
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episode that Reddit is just completely astroturf these days. The most, the number one town on Reddit
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right now is a military base that is used predominantly for misinformation and psyops. You know, the Reddit is a
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psyopped operation run by the military. And so then the question is of CIA and NSA, why is it so lefty?
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This is why, because these organizations have been taken over. And then the person says, Rufus says,
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you're talking about trans ideology, cult-like behavior in Marxist politics. That to me screams
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unstable. It screams counterintelligence risk. How do you see it? And then the whistleblower says all of
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the above the folks like that were quite unstable. I see it as a counterintelligence risk, but it's being
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normalized and is being praised. There was a time in the last year when people were writing blog
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entries, trying to one-up each other, quote, I have a non-binary child, end quote, end quote.
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Oh, well, I have two trans children, end quote.
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Like immediately punched. Like that's statistically impossible. That just means that you are
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f***ing up your children's life, especially when you know the unaliving rate within that community.
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The fact that you could push people towards that for your own status is disgusting in the extreme.
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It became a social thing. Trying to one-up each other with how weird they are. And they'd come
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up with terms because they have to be unique. They want you to treat them normally. And at the same
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time, you better recognize that they are unique and different from you. So there's no winning. It's
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The director of national intelligence released a memo that it would require all intelligence agents to
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identify the trans fetishist and terminate their employment and revoke their security clearances.
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How do you expect that to play out? The whistleblower. I wish I could say it playing
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out well with the following the orders and doing it. But after the last years, I just don't know.
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They should be able to identify them easily enough because they have all the logs. If they can't,
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then they're just stonewalling. I hope this is the start of getting intelligence agencies back to
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what they should be doing, which is focused on intel and supporting the warfighter. Just come in and do
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your job. Leave that shit at the door. So they have started to go against this.
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Now, what's really cool is Mother Jones, they posted a piece on this, and we can already see
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through their own reporting how the left is trying to ignore these orders, hide, quote-unquote,
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protect the cultists within their organization. So let's go into this, or do you have any thoughts
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before we do? I want to go into this. So the article that Mother Jones published,
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you and I were just going to be a little bit. Yeah, hold on, hold on.
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The article is a race for a McCarthyist purge, and then the line that they use as a headline,
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and this is how Trump approached this, and I think it's so smart. They're not asking people,
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are you gay? Are you a lesbian? They're asking who is participating in the DEI, i.e. who is going to be gay?
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Yeah, well, and because, like, keep in mind, we, for example, the company that we acquired is part
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of our private equity effort. Like, quite well-represented LGBTQ, but no one brings it to
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work. We don't talk about our personal lives. We do not bring any of that to the workplace. If
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there's drama at home, it stays there, and that's great, and that's how, and so the focus is 100%
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on the purpose of the business. It's not people's identity. It's bringing it to the office and wasting
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taxpayer dollars. I was from the position recently, but I was the, I think, the only straight guy in
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the company at a few points, and this is, like, not a problem at all. Like, and I think that the
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important thing is the right really supports gay people, right? You see this throughout, like,
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the tech right is, like, led by, like, Peter Thiel and, like, Elon, and, like, you know, you've got
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people out there flipping the election for Trump. Like, gay people are throughout the leadership of the
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right now, but they are not the type of gay people who would have been wasting their time
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in DEI meetings. Yeah, they're people who work. Yeah, that's... So I actually think that this is
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great, because who is wasting time at this DEI BS is the perfect predictor of who is just a gay person
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and who is using this to gain institutional power. Well, also, so many DEI people aren't
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LGBTQIA anything, or even minorities, or just Karens. So... Yeah, where there are people who, like,
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identifies as gay because they identify as, like, trans or, like, non-binary. Or they have a thing
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for lording authority over other people and using social consensus to exert power. No, no, of course,
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is that there's a lot of people today who just identify as gay. Oh. You're a partner, identify...
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Like, Fundy Friday is a great example of this. Like, if you started identifying as trans and I'm now,
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like, well, I'm gay because I'm sleeping with a, like, a non-binary person, which you or I could do.
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Like, both of us are technically trans by the leftist ideology. Because we're non-binary,
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because we wouldn't give a shit if we woke up the other gender. Which makes us agender. Agender is a
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form of genderqueer. Genderqueer is a form of trans. So both you and I are trans. Most of us could say
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that we're in a gay relationship. Yet, you're also mostly asexual. So yet, also, we don't do that,
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right? Like, it's weird, right? And I wouldn't go to meetings about that. And I don't need to make
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that my identity. So I think this is the perfect way of splitting the real gay people who just want
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to live their lives and the people who want to force these ideologies on other people. I mean,
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you're totally right. Most of them are probably not even what we'd historically call same-sex
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attracted people. Well, sex pets is what they are. You know, my argument beyond that, though,
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is that many people who are involved in DEI are literally white, often female, monogamous,
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straight people. They don't even hold the identity. They can still be involved.
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Well, no, I actually disagree. I think you'd be surprised by how many of them would call
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themselves trans or genderqueer or non-binary or bi. Maybe.
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Look, if you're a white, classically sexualized woman, there's a lot of words you can choose
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for yourself, whether it's bisexual or something. Demisexual or, you know, or, oh, well, because I also
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like, okay, for example, they happen to sometimes find themselves attracted to trans women who haven't
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made a point of transitioning, i.e. they look exactly like natal males. They call themselves gay.
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Yeah, there's always a way to be gay these days, especially if you're a white woman. They need this
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because they can't be at the top of the hierarchy, which they are within these workplace environments.
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But since returning to power, Trump and his allies have cast these same groups as subversive and even
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illegal, an example of radical and discriminatory program. So they see this as insane. They use
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Promoting diversity, equity, and inclusiveness. Keep in mind our organization that we started,
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DEIremediation.com. If you need this within your company or you think that your company could benefit
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to it, you know, be sure to air it with the higher-ups. We come in, we help clear this stuff
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up for you, and we can save you so much money, help you so much with aligning your marketing team
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with your customer base. If you're a customer, if you're Harley Davidson, you know,
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your marketing team should be like middle-aged men, not a room of Karens, okay? But anyway,
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the Office of Personnel Management, essentially the executive branch's HR department, issued a memorandum
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telling agencies to prohibit employee research groups that promote unlawful DEIA initiatives
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or employee retention agendas based on protected characteristics. So they're literally saying don't
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be racist, sexist, because an employee retention agenda based on protected characteristics, that's
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They give away the bag here, you know, they're like.
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No, Mother Jones is writing this with a straight face talking about how horrifying it is, and
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The opium memo is just one of many Trump actions generating fear of a new quote-unquote lavender
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scare, a purge that could roll back decades of LGBTQ gains and send those who remain in the
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government back into the closet. Again, you yourself said they're not looking for gay and lesbians,
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they're looking for people who participate in these groups.
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Yeah, but I also feel like everyone's home life should be in the closet when they go to work.
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Exactly. While Trump has appointed a couple of token gay officials, Treasury Secretary Scott
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Bessett and Special Missions Afoi Rick Janel. Look, we didn't even mention those, we were
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mentioning like top people in the right who are gay. Like there's right, like.
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Yeah, but you mentioned Elon Musk, he's not gay.
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No, he's not gay, but like he's obviously very pro-gay. Like Elon Musk is not gonna like,
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seriously, you guys think Elon Musk is like a one iota homophobic?
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No, but he went anti-trans after his daughter like denounced him, so.
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Yeah, because like sane people are anti-trans these days.
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Yeah, no, no, no, no. Because, well, he saw, he saw how the system was used to radicalize.
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I even know trans people who are anti-trans these days.
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I'd say that like, I know a lot of like base, not a lot, but like at least like a,
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you know, a few, like four or some, like base trans people who are like, yeah,
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the whole trans thing is completely harmful.
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But anyway, he simultaneously declared war on transgender people,
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issuing edicts against so-called gender ideology and an onslaught of executive orders attempting to
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impose widespread discrimination against trans people in schools, hospitals, sports, homeless
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shelters, and prisons. In the US Department of Agriculture, multiple people have been asked to
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report the names of LGBTQ employee resource group leaders. Again-
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Oh, they're asking for the leaders. Yeah, they're not asking for gay people or trans people.
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Yeah. High ranking officials, according to interviews with workers and documented,
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reviewed by Mother Jones. In the Interior Department too, Michael says that an official has informed him
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that they'll be asked to produce names of at least some participants in employee resource groups.
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Great! That's exactly who we need to get rid of. Anyone involved in the group.
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Yeah. I never thought my involvement in an after work group would land me here.
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Well, you're talking about it at work, we know from the other sources. So,
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good try to weave all that out there. A board member of the USDA Queer Employee Resource Group says,
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they're not coming out and saying we want to fire the queers, Michael says.
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They're asking people- They're not asking people, are you gay? Are you a lesbian?
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They're asking, who is participating in DEI? But in the end, it's going to have the same effect.
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No, it's- No, it's really not. It's really not.
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The gay people who you guys hate, who you see as like the weird Republican gays, they're going to be fine.
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And I'm not even saying that they're Republican gays. They're just the gays who refused to go along with your BS.
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Or the gays who prefer to work at work, maybe? Yeah.
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Yeah. Persecution, the DOD employee says. The government no longer recognizes my medical condition,
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or acknowledges my existence as a transgender woman. What are these additional medical conditions here?
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You know, for everything, it's all my medical conditions. That's like the key of who I am.
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When the new administration terminated federal DEI positions and programs on Inauguration Day,
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employees on DEI teams or had previously held those jobs were simply placed on administrative leave
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and their access cut off to federal computers and systems. Some of those workers have since
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received notices that they have been officially fired. They got disappeared, says a non-binary USDA
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worker, I'll call Ryan, who regularly worked within the agency's DEI team as part of his job responsibilities.
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Why was that part of his job responsibilities? You said this was an after work thing.
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I can't look up their name in the system. All the chats with them have been deleted,
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he says. Okay, probably for the best. Late last week, a federal judge in Maryland issued a
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preliminary injunction blocking the parts of Trump's anti-DEI orders that threatened to cut off
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equity-related federal grants and funding for contractors. Yet the federal employees remain
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vulnerable. And it has become clear that the Trump administration's DEI purge is far from over.
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Documents uncovered by Washington Post show the DOGE plans to identify and fire workers who do not
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hold DEI-related jobs, but, quote, but could be, quote, tied to diversity initiatives through
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unsuspected other means, end quote. Way to go, DOGE. Yeah, yeah. That's what we're going for.
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Dozens of employees in the education department have already been put on administrative leave for
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attending DEI trainings during the first Trump administration, even though participation had
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back then been encouraged. Encouraged by who? Not by Trump. Not by the administrative officials,
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by you people who are trying to, when the first Trump administration was basically an administration
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where the deep state led a coup against the will of the voters. And these meetings were where you
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organize the local parts of that deep state coup. Now we know who was involved in that.
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And they tolerated it to begin the way. And they thought it was fine. Like, it's not like they
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even came in against it. They are against it for very good reasons, because they understand that
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this was the apparatus used to undermine their every act.
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Why were people encouraged to go to these groups is the question you need to ask yourself. They weren't
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encouraged because all of a sudden, like, they were encouraged that they could organize
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the fight against Trump. And we know the fight against Trump happened because
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you could look at what happened in regards to Trump's agenda in the first term, and what has
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happened under the reign of the triumvirate, which has been astronomical. Someone like me,
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somebody saying, I'm just waiting for them to find me, says a queer civil engineer who was previously
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assigned to work part time on a program to mitigate anti LGBT discrimination. So he was working on this
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for his job, working on this program for his job with taxpayer money. It's only a matter of time.
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Those of us like me who have been done trainings are out. We're afraid it makes it incredibly hard
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to concentrate and focus at work. Okay, so they're not working anymore. Get out of work, then come on.
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This is how other people have felt at work while you guys held the reins. And as the person said,
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it was made clear that you couldn't easily get promoted if you didn't go to these. But like,
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that's horrifying. Even those who never worked on DEI or participated in employee resource groups
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worry about the ways they could be targeted. For example, new rules like January 29th, OPM
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directive requiring that, quote unquote, intimate spaces be designated by biological sex and not
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gender identity. The trans, why do you need to flash women? Like what?
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You so gross. And, and we know this is about flashing women. The reason we know this is about
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flashing women is Leah Thomas. This was the swimmer. The face of the trans movement. And yet,
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long before she had undergone the gender transition surgery, she had a male willy. She looked like a
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male. She was changing in front of the other women in the locker room. The other women were like,
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I don't want to see this. And the trans movement, the primary trans organizations, when everyone was
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like, surely this is not what you're fighting for. Right? And they're like, no, this is exactly what
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we're fighting for. So you basically played your cards. This is about being allowed to flash people.
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You know, women specifically without, again, it's about violating consent. It's about violating
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their consent to refer to you the way they want to refer to you. It's about violating their consent
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within their private spaces. This is power about violating consent and power dynamics.
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Yeah. So, the trans woman working for the Department of Defense, for instance,
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says she is determined to continue using the women's restroom. Oh, so we're just going to ignore
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all the rules. After going through the painstaking process of medical transition, including diagnosis,
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therapy, testing, and surgery. I have been dehumanized so much, she says. I'm not going to
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stop using women's facilities. So, okay, then, like, you should be fired, right? Including women
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in your sexuality, like, innocent bystanders who don't want to be included in this.
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Yeah, if you're not willing to play by the rules of your employer, then the employer has every right to
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let you go. Even admit, well, it's not even an employer. Like, this never should have been
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allowed in the first place, right? You know, if you wanted to use, like, single stalls and stuff like
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that, fine. But if women are made uncomfortable by this, you don't get to violate their consent.
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Like, we used to understand this. And the idea that this wasn't being used by people who didn't
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look at all like women or had undergone medical transition, everyone knows it was. Because,
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again, Leah Thomas, early in the movement, you guys doubled down. Women should be forced to look
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at your penis if you don't consider it a penis or you think it's a female penis.
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They made their hand. This isn't me pointing to some, like, extremist who the movement denounced.
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Okay. Even amid this terror campaign, support continues to exist for queer and trans federal
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workers, much of it quiet and behind the scenes. Several employees say their managers have privately
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expressed a desire to protect them. Co-workers have been sending sympathetic messages. So again,
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they're trying to protect them. We need to, as we're getting rid of these individuals,
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anyone who tries to protect them needs to be gotten rid of as well. And these are individuals
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who are forcing, again, if you're just trans, like whatever, you're going to follow the rules,
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whatever. If you are using these sorts of support groups to organize a counter-state resistance to
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just ignore orders that are coming down from above, that's a completely different thing. And if
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somebody's like, oh, but what about the women who like totally passed and are going to be made
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really uncomfortable by this? It's like, well, then maybe you should have done more in these
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support groups to fight against things like the Leah Thomas thing, to fight against the people who
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made no effort to pass and were taking advantage of the same stuff. That was on you. That is what these
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groups should have been used to do. In the conservative movement, we have made an extended and very
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explicit effort, as you will see on things like this show, to shit on the people who go too far,
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who go into racism and anti-Semitism. And we very explicitly pull it and call it out. Even
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homophobia type stuff or anti-gay stuff, we call that out on the show all the time as well.
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We have dealt with our version of people who support stuff that nobody wants. It's not even
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popular within our own party. You refuse to do it within your side. And we pay a cost when we do this,
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just as you would pay a cost if you did it within your side. But you refuse to pay that cost.
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And that's why we'll still be here in 50 years. And you had as a cultural movement control of the
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world for literally the shortest time any dominant cultural movement has ever held a position of
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power. But it's also why we need to remember on the right to continue to take out the trash
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of our own extremists, i.e. the racists and anti-Semites and extreme homophobes. And by homophobes here,
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I don't mean somebody who's just like, I wouldn't want my kids to be gay. I'm talking about like the
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crazy stuff like banning gay marriage, banning what other people do in their own time, within
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their own places of worship. You know, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, like we're not
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Sharia law here. The fact, like, we gave you a nice shiny toy as a society. I used to support trans
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women using women's restrooms, right? Like, I used to support this. We gave you this toy. I was like,
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okay, they're gonna use this responsibly, aren't they? Oh, they didn't use it responsibly. Okay,
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well, now we need to take it back if we care about like the vast majority of people here.
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Yeah. And then they go, that was the case for Ryan, the non-binary employee of USDA.
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Though they'd been sure of their identity for over a decade, they didn't want to share it at work
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until two years ago when they moved into a new role with new co-workers and finally decided to add,
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quote, they, them to the bottom of their emails. That was my big rip off the band-aids, they said.
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It was scary, but it was incriminating. Violating other people's existence is so exhilarating
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because you knew now, now they can't say anything. They, them, by the way, not like a normal, like,
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they, them. That's a violation of consent regardless, right? Like, you're forcing somebody to use a unique
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construct when relating to you, which signals you as different and special when contrasted with other
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people. Like, I don't force people to call me Sir Malcolm. That's like what that's equivalent to.
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Then, at a recent staff meeting, employees were instructed to use a standard email signature.
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They required them to remove their pronouns, not put standard pronouns, remove their pronouns.
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I don't know how many people I have anymore, they told Mother Jones.
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I am devastated and barely holding it together most of the time. What do you mean?
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You still get to put your name and your signature. If your identity matters to you,
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just appreciate that people call you by your name.
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Like, if you changed your name, people are still having to, you're still having to put that. Like,
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you don't like that you can't force all of this additional shit on people. Because again,
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as we saw earlier in this, it's about violation of consent. When they're like,
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some people like it when they're dehumanized. But Ryan adds, I'm not quitting. I'm going to make
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them fire me if they want me to go away. So we know now the job's not done. We need to keep
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going through these organizations and removing this counter state force, this religion, because
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it is a religion, like their beliefs are not based on science. They're based on an alternate ideology.
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And they think that the job of these organizations is to spread their ideology. And they use these
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cancerous tumors like DEI departments. I would actually go further. And I think that,
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and they've admitted this isn't about being gay, they admit that Trump employs lots of gay people
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like they, I love it that they even Mother Jones list this as well. It's not about being gay. It's
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about being like aggressive. It's not even about being trans. It's about being aggressive in the
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way that you are violating the consent of others in the way that you are spreading your particular
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ideology without caring for, say, Christians, for example, who should have just as much right to
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have their religion within these organizations as you. And yet you, of course, wouldn't believe that,
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right? And I think this is where a lot of the new right comes from. Like,
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a lot of people need to ask themselves more. Why are Trump's most effective lieutenants,
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all former leftist anti-Trump people, whether it's Elon or JD Vance or RFK or even people like us,
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right? Like what, why did all of these people become the, the sword of the right and are now
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unabashedly seen as far right? It was because we were the people who went out there and been like,
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hey, this LGBTQ stuff. Yeah. Let's give it the benefit of the doubt. Let's give them these
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privileges. Let's see what they do with it. And it was like, oh, oh, oh, they were, they did not
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And so now we're like, yeah, we're going to protect people. If we're going to protect women,
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if we're going to protect our organizations, we need to stop this stuff from spreading.
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We're going to protect our tax dollars from being wasted on you guys having like sexy
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conversations on like intercom chats. We need to get out there and fight against this. This is not
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people who wanted you to not have any of these rights. This is all downstream of your own community
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members alienating people who wanted you guys to have the chance to live this life to see if you could
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do this responsibly. Yeah. And ultimately that freedom was utilized to revoke consent from people
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who wanted to just live their lives. And that's, that's where things went too far.
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It is disturbing to me though. Like we, we talk in the Pragmatist Guide to Governance,
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how this dynamic takes place. You talk in the Pragmatist Guide to Crafting Religion about how
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the urban monoculture and more broadly woke culture or more specifically woke culture spreads
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and then sort of parasitizes the very values that it pretends to espouse, but actually hearing about it
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play out in a place like the NSA or CIA. Yeah. Yeah. It's very, it's very disturbing.
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Like, I, I just want to like, I, I want to believe that, oh yeah, this dynamic takes place and some
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organizations really have major DEI takeover problems and they've become very unproductive.
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You know, the federal government's just so tight-laced that this is under control and no, like the more
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that gets revealed, the more terrible it is. And I'm, I don't know, I, I shouldn't be surprised, but I am.
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I feel the same way. Yeah. It's, it's scary. Yeah. Yeah. Again, I think we've come to this place
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where, and this is coming in waves again and again and again. People thought the government
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was working. They thought society functioned. They thought that if someone broke a law.
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I think we saw what USA was doing. Yeah. Well, yeah. And yeah, they thought that, that broadly things
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were working. And now we're realizing when people shoplift, they don't get arrested. When people are
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found being in the country illegally, they don't get arrested when, you know, people don't do their
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jobs and in the federal government, they don't get fired. And we need to crack down and start applying
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rules to people again. The final thought I'd have here, which I think was really smart when Trump did
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the first rollout of the DEI staff is he built of all of the contractors who were participating in this.
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So they couldn't just change the name. We had the names and the information of everyone who had
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been involved in this. And I think that needs to be done again. That's the only way to prevent them
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from just coming back and trying to re-inject this. And again, people could be like, oh,
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you're hunting the whatever. No, we're hunting the Marxists in our government, like actual Marxists
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who are like, yeah, I'm a Marxist in the United States government who hates the United States.
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You would be slammed for saying, hey, isn't our job to defend the United States?
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That shows that your goals are antithetical to what we are paying you to do.
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you could go work in another company, go work at a company focused on your value system.
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You don't need to be in the federal government.
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Well, the thing is though, the private sector doesn't want, the private sector is trying to
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shed employees like crazy, unless you're talking about like Tyson chicken processing plants.
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We got to, we got to help the private sector too. Oh, I mean, individuals who are going to go to
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their job and not do their job and just focus on spreading their ideology. That's an effing
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And somebody who has a history of doing that does need additional scrutiny.
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Well, I think that the reason why maybe this is worse in the federal government is that these
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agencies haven't had to fund themselves with cash flow. So, whereas, you know, these game
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companies that went woke are starting to run themselves into the ground financially.
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You know, then they, they only have a certain amount of time where they can be this irresponsible.
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The federal government, horrifyingly, has not worked with these constraints.
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This is a great way to put out as terrible as Ubisoft is. It was like Assassin's Creed shadows.
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Well, no, it's, it's better because it's a, it's a very prominent financial failure.
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They're now feeling the pain they're going to have.
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The point I'm making is they are as infected. The stuff that they are putting out, you just
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don't see the stuff that they're putting out because it's clandestine. Yeah.
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The stuff that they're putting out is the woke culture that we've been living in for the past
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four years. This has been manipulated by these organizations as we saw on the episode about
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I think that's probably going to be it for today because she's getting wiggly.
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I also watched a YouTuber go over like famous Soviet cartoons. Yeah.
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And it's so interesting because they, they do very different, they're promoting very different
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values. Many of which I like, cause it's a big focus on work and productivity. But then there was
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this one scene of a movie where characters stole parts of a car to someone's car to like build a
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playground and a policeman comes and is like, what have you done to this car? And they're like,
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well, we built a playground and they point to it and he's like, all right, good work. I'll take care
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of the car. And like, just like, there's no respect for, I guess, commercial property or private
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property in this case, or maybe the government will just take care of it, but they appreciate
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the productivity and work. And I feel so conflicted about that. I'm like, oh, but property rights,
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So bizarre as well that my remote is still missing. I've ordered new remotes. Hopefully
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they work with the monitor. Oh, you just need to look at the kid's room. It's been all over
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the kid's room. I've been like, what, what is this remote for? This is so strange.
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Well, where is it then? You can find, I went to the room. I didn't see it.
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I checked those in bed. Well, I've, I've noticed a lot of things out of place in the kitchen. So
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they got into that last night. So I need to, it was probably in the fridge. I will check.
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Yeah. How do we, how do we keep them from doing that?
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Breaking, going downstairs today and finding Toasty was, was what he was playing with. He
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Clearly we need to up our childproofing. We childproofed for like mid children,
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and we have elite children. So we have elite children childproofing.
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Figured how to like get into locked containers and extremely high shelves.
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And now you need to talk to John about how to better lock the door going to the kitchen.
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That's what I was thinking was a padlock with a combination that only we know.