00:02:15.920And then after that, you know, we'll cover you.
00:02:18.000For example, our health insurance, our deductible as a family is $16,000. So, you know, do we feel like we're covered? Not so much. And that's how it is with most health insurances. And in China, it's no different. So there is that. And then there are also limits in China on what they will actually cover at all, of course.
00:02:36.960So they might not cover anything even after your deductible is met.
00:02:39.860And even after your deductible is met, or even if something is supposed to be covered right away, you still pay what are called co-pays, where they might say like, OK, well, your deductible is met, but you still have to pay for half of it.
00:02:51.840You know, we're not going to pay the whole amount.
00:02:53.440So really what the Chinese health insurance program is, and this makes decent sense if you have private health care businesses, is, hey, we're going to try to reduce the catastrophic downside of health care.
00:03:06.960problems people may face. We want to reduce the catastrophic financial hit people take when they
00:03:12.420have health scares, but we're not going to take care of you. That would be crazy. Whereas I think
00:03:20.180the NHS is an example of what it looks like when you have government-provided healthcare, which is
00:03:25.600like, okay, we'll cover your healthcare, but it's going to be a state-run business, which is the
00:03:31.960nhk sorry nhs in the united kingdom and it's gonna be like going to the dmv you know like it's not
00:03:38.360gonna be pleasant you're not gonna like it but like you'll probably you'll probably survive that
00:03:44.980kind of thing by the way if you're excited about the nhs style socialist health care system be
00:03:52.480aware that it actually has worse health care outcomes than the u.s system even if you're just
00:03:58.940looking at like the outcome at the general population level when it comes to severe illnesses
00:04:04.080and if you look at something like canada that everyone thinks is so great well over a thousand
00:04:09.200canadians per year come to the united states for life-saving treatment because they just can't get
00:04:13.400it in canada the united states health care system is at least in terms of effective socialization
00:04:18.900more socialized than canada or the nih just so you get an idea of how much better the us is than
00:04:25.480the UK. If we're looking at cancer survival rates in the US, it's 65%. In the UK, it's only 56%.
00:04:32.120If you look at breast cancer in the US, it's 90.2%. In the UK, it's 80%. If you look at lung
00:04:38.780cancer, the five-year survival rate in the United States is 18%. And in the UK, it is 12%. So just
00:04:45.700across the board, what you see is that the NHS is less good at helping the average citizen than
00:04:54.520the united states system yeah okay so do you want to go through how do you want to structure this
00:04:58.720do you want to go through the various parts of the system do you want to go into absolute numbers
00:05:01.780i guess i could just start with absolute numbers so public spending is roughly 19 to 21 percent of
00:05:07.780the american gdp if if you look at china it is around nine percent of the gdp so if you're
00:05:16.780Talking about global GDP, the United States is more than double China.
00:05:23.860Where DAibo, the main cash assistance thing in China, is relevant to only 0.1%.
00:05:31.680And OCD data put total spending of the United States, oh, potentially even higher, 30 to 33% of total GDP.
00:05:38.720The 19 to 21% may be an understanding, which would make us over three times China.
00:05:45.260Yeah. So just for more color, Daibo is China's main means tested cash welfare program. So it's, I guess, kind of like, kind of like unemployment here, some other things, but it's basically like a minimum, minimum livelihood guarantee.
00:05:59.920and the idea is that the very poor in china can sort of have a like minimum income but it's it is
00:06:07.860one even in china it's not meant to like be a universal basic income it's not going to take
00:06:14.380care of you it is gap filling it is only intended to like fill a gap and like and they don't have
00:06:19.680permanent homeless shelters in china there is no infrastructure that assumes that permanent
00:06:25.040homelessness even exists in china if you're like well what do homeless people do if there's no
00:06:30.400infrastructure assuming they either die or they go to live with extended family networks yeah and
00:06:38.340so also when you receive some kind of like assistance in in most countries right it's
00:06:42.940you know you have to apply for it sometimes it's a bit of a hassle it might be a little
00:06:47.580bit embarrassing you know no no one okay a lot of people don't like being a leech but in china also
00:06:55.100utilizing this benefit is in some regions actively shamed so in in some areas they actually and this
00:07:02.600isn't even if you're on the assistance applicant names are posted publicly so that neighbors can
00:07:09.920comment on the deservingness so that you not only like could maybe not ultimately qualify if your0.97
00:07:17.220neighbors or like another piece of trash. But there's also just that really creates extra0.74
00:07:24.320social stigma and can deter otherwise eligible people from applying. Now, it's clear that,
00:07:29.540of course, across the board, across countries, there are many social services. And this is
00:07:34.400also an issue in the United States where people who technically would qualify for various
00:07:40.720assistance programs don't apply for them. They don't want the stigma. I don't think that's a
00:07:44.660bad thing. You know, I think that people are unaware of like, let's look at the healthcare
00:07:48.660system in the United States, how accessible healthcare is to you. If you're poor in the
00:07:52.820United States. Oh my God. Oh my God. No, that's, that's the thing. And I think one of the biggest
00:07:56.500things that I want to just highlight here is that in other countries, you, for example,
00:08:03.120Oh, I wish, you know, we had free healthcare. Oh, it would be so wonderful in the United States
00:08:08.220functionally if you are very poor or if you are old you basically have free health care but it's
00:08:16.740very different from free health care in say even like a nice country like i mean the the one you
00:08:23.400don't have free health care in china but even the health care you can get it's like oh i don't know
00:08:27.160if i'd really like that now i've been to nhs like in the uk and i'm sure you have too like it's
00:08:33.620it's horrible it's worse than nothing i think yeah i was okay i mean i wasn't impressed with
00:08:37.760it, but it's, but it's like, it's the DMV of healthcare, right? It's not nice. Whereas if
00:08:41.960you are poor in the United States, you're not going to the DMV of healthcare. You're going to
00:08:47.000a private hospital. You're going to the kind of thing that someone in the UK who's in the upper
00:08:52.300class would actively have to pay, you know, it's like a gated system, but no, you're just strolling
00:08:56.540on in if you're in the United States. And if you're on Medicaid, which is for poor and disabled
00:09:01.480people in the U S basically for full benefit Medicaid, that, which is the typical situation
00:09:05.900for many low-income adults, all very low-income adults in the U.S., and children, and pregnant
00:09:11.820people, and many disabled people. There's no monthly premium charge to the enrollee, and the
00:09:16.660program is funded by federal and state governments. And while some states charge very small premiums
00:09:22.980or have rules for certain groups with higher incomes, like they're very medically needy
00:09:27.880programs, that is a big exception. Most enrollees in Medicaid pay nothing. There are lots of
00:09:37.660families that have kids who qualify because they're disabled, and it's just insane the
00:09:42.420amount of coverage they get. Again, this is private, top-of-the-line medical care. Whenever
00:09:49.440I deliver a baby at this really fancy hospital, Malcolm, you've been in there. These are hotel
00:09:56.640style rooms we we actually did an episode where we showed pictures of like the the kind of hospital
00:10:02.040where like you would deliver and and and Kate Middleton delivered like the most expensive top
00:10:07.460of the line delivery rooms or like postpartum rooms in the United Kingdom and then my hospital
00:10:12.060room and mine is just the same it looks just well yours was significantly nicer yeah my views my
00:10:19.100views better and and they're across you know across the hallway from me next door to me1.00
00:10:23.420are clearly probably illegal immigrant women because they also speak absolutely zero English1.00
00:10:29.100and they're not paying. They're not paying anything. Medicaid is paying for them.1.00
00:10:33.940So I just want to make it clear that like, even in a system, I want people to understand,
00:10:37.880there are homeless people in the U.S. who use hospital ambulances like taxis because they know
00:10:45.440that they can get away with it. And that's the way our system is set up. There's a law that,
00:10:51.160And this also kind of exists in many countries, including in China, where like private medical companies are required by law to provide stabilizing care.
00:11:00.020A great example of just how much this is the case is now, obviously, this isn't true.
00:11:05.720If you have an ongoing medical condition, you're not going to be able to get it easily something like ongoing diabetes medication or something like that if you're very poor in the United States.
00:11:11.920You can't get the medication, but you also can't get that in China either.
00:11:14.900Yeah, but if you're like Asmogold, the story that he tells, just understand what it's like to be a homeless person in the United States and use a hospital.
00:11:22.360He talks about when he went to a hospital and he got up and they were just going to let him leave without paying and he needed to explain to them that he wasn't homeless.
00:11:33.040Yeah, they just thought he was a homeless man, so they're like, you can go, it's fine.
00:11:36.540Because, again, by law, emergency rooms are required to provide stabilizing care.
00:11:40.500And this is partially why healthcare costs as much as it does in the United States for
00:11:59.120Well, this is another really interesting thing about the United States is again, all this
00:12:02.460is, it's so magical and amazing and it's very unsustainable.
00:12:05.500We've talked about it on another podcast.
00:12:06.980Maybe we'll talk about it here too, but it is unbelievable.
00:12:10.060the level of luxury that people have who are at or below the poverty level in the United States.
00:12:18.360But the middle class, they're the ones who are paying for all of it. And I point to the middle0.52
00:12:24.780class because they're the ones who are paying very, very high health insurance rates. They're
00:12:30.540paying out of pocket a lot for health care. I just mentioned our deductible, $16,000. It's a ton,
00:12:38.400And it's really painful. And then we're, of course, our tax rate is really high too, as middle income Americans. Once you become a really wealthy American, you're not paying taxes because you, one, have really great accountants who are able to hide everything.
00:12:55.820And two, you kind of typically shift away from having a salary, which is what's taxed. And then instead you just sort of make money from your investments and you're able to like use debt and shift around your investments and use tax loopholes in a way where actually you're probably never really taxed on your capital gains because you just like you harvest lost from this one thing to like, you know, put toward this other thing.
00:13:17.980And then you reinvest as soon as you get something. And like, basically, you just leverage debt to pay for everything. And then just never cash out your investments and just keep reinvesting. And so you're never really paying taxes. So it's just it's one of these really frustrating systems in the United States. But nevertheless, the luxury with which people at the below the poverty line live with is insane.
00:13:40.060I mean, another thing just about medical, well, okay, I want to talk about, let's switch to, since we're on medical care, though, in China, it's not just that you have to, you basically have to pay for everything.
00:13:54.500You don't, there are no, like, state-provided, like, NHS-style systems.
00:14:01.600Did you know that also, even just, like, people who have plenty of ability to pay, just, they bribe their doctors all the time?
00:14:08.340what to not pay yeah so how does this work yeah the the most significant gap between china's formal
00:14:15.560coverage promises you know of like oh well your health and insurance will cover this and the
00:14:19.760lived reality is the persistence of informal payments and so some academics did an analysis
00:14:25.160of bribery in chinese hospitals and they described the normalization of red packet or hung bao
00:14:31.280payments cash given directly to physicians by patients seeking faster or better treatment
00:14:36.520A peer-reviewed mixed-method study using data from 3,546 judicial cases was the dominant form of medical corruption, with roughly 80% of bribe-takers being health care providers.
00:14:50.940More telling, an earlier survey found that one-third of 500 randomly sampled residents in China had reported they or family members had given red envelopes to doctors, rising to 50% when surgeries were involved.0.64
00:15:03.240And there is a reason why this is the case.
00:15:05.880basically china's public hospitals were effectively defunded by the market reforms of the 1980s
00:15:11.800and then they've since been run on a quasi-commercial model like i said that this is not
00:15:16.420like the nhs where it's government run and so they're expected to generate their own revenue
00:15:20.700and and also doctor salaries are extremely low they're sometimes between 800 to 3 000 rmb per
00:15:27.460month in smaller cities and so there's this systemic pressure to supplement income through
00:15:32.580pharmaceutical kickbacks so they're also like by the way you should take this and also to just
00:15:38.340accept informal payments so like actually bribing a doctor is gonna make a difference like because
00:15:43.880they need the money so like they actually will prioritize you and and xi jinping's high profile
00:15:48.760anti-corruption campaign launched around 2023 swept hospital directors across the country and
00:15:54.940publicly targeted the behavior but the structural underpayment remains the root cause of this and i
00:16:00.080mean, if I were going in for surgery in China, you know, I'd be bribing them. When I go in for
00:16:04.380my C-sections, I come in with a giant basket full of like eggs and baked goods. I'm doing it. And I
00:16:10.740know that they're, I mean, I feel like they could be paid more. The medical professionals in every
00:16:15.620country I think are amazing and wonderful and they deserve everything. But like when you're like
00:16:20.220literally just bringing an envelope of cash and being like, please, please, please, that like
00:16:29.060that is a really big deal. Another big issue with China's medical coverage is that basically you
00:16:35.740have medical insurance based on either your rural or urban plan. And there's big discrepancies with
00:16:43.440a lot of social services. There's these weird housing discrepancies. And I still don't fully
00:16:47.200wrap my head around it the way it works in China. But a problem is if let's say you're a rural
00:16:51.600Chinese person, and then that means that you have the rural Chinese person health insurance,
00:16:57.400but you go to work in shanghai or beijing do you have coverage when you go to see a doctor in
00:17:03.280beijing no you don't they're not in your insurance plan and so it's almost as if like you you have
00:17:08.760like a local employer in the united states and they have like their insurance but like
00:17:13.040you you live in portugal what like what good does that do for you no good and so there's also just1.00
00:17:20.540a ton of migrant workers in china who are just functionally uninsured and just totally like0.95
00:17:26.220completely out of the system. Yeah. And I mean, even in places, and again, I think if you're0.98
00:17:30.320going to provide government healthcare, you should just own the healthcare system, right? It should
00:17:35.200just be the DMV of healthcare. And then if people want to get like actually good services, they need
00:17:39.820to pay for it privately. I think that what the NHS does is good, but even with the NHS, their care is
00:17:47.100extremely spotty. So investigative reporting found that treatment approval rates for individual
00:17:52.800funding requests really varied actually. So it was as low as 2% in Shropshire to 69% in
00:18:00.420Gloucestershire for just identical categories of treatment. So depending on where you live in the
00:18:05.980UK, you could have like pretty decent government provided healthcare, or you can have like really
00:18:11.020bad. Also just, you know, it's, I think this is more discussed in Canada and why I've made it
00:18:16.320such a problem but also in the uk like london practices face over 500 or more patients per
00:18:23.480general practitioner 500 or more patients like do you wow is this what in the uk or in china
00:18:30.780in london i'm just talking about a system where it's actually kind of nice
00:18:35.160getting computers into china it's not bad i mean i really had my life threatened there a number of
00:18:42.600times because of the inefficiency of the system oh really did you get really sick when you were
00:18:46.180there i was having a really bad reaction to a medication they could have was it the same one
00:18:51.300that you were taking when we first met that i was like yeah and they were like come see us tomorrow
00:18:56.920and i'm like if this reaction continues i think i'm going to die tomorrow and they're like well
00:19:02.160i'm sorry we don't have any other way to see you right like this is the this is the way things
00:19:05.580work no see i think that's government health care done right it's like we're here we're not really
00:19:11.420here but like it's only the strong will survive in our country okay sorry malcolm you were too
00:19:18.660weak i had similar experience like because i mean i also went to it when i was in school and like
00:19:22.860yeah i was kind of like sweetie you're on your own but yeah well and like gg there i mean like
00:19:28.740you're not gonna get aside from like this really spotty differences in care um and this also like
00:19:34.560there's really weird discrepancies in like referrals for really basic stuff like colonoscopies
00:19:40.040for diagnostics and stuff like it it's really weird like again you could have it it's just
00:19:47.420scary especially if you have like cancer or something serious in China like or sorry in
00:19:50.800the UK you're gonna want to go private anyway but you're not you're never gonna get a private
00:19:58.120hospital room for example you know and like another thing to note was China right if you're
00:20:03.760like well didn't she say that he eliminated poverty in the country right because this is a big claim
00:20:10.700by the ccp i didn't i didn't know that was a claim they made since there's no poor people in china0.54
00:20:15.320oh that's a mindset malcolm poverty is a mindset the the the threshold that was set to determine
00:20:23.740this which a huge chunk of china still lives on is 60 cents a day to a dollar 90 a day
00:20:32.460there are many people in china who live on 60 cents to a dollar 90 a day i mean
00:20:40.780because a lot of them they they did not actually sell so if if you look at by u.s standards
00:20:47.64017 of china's population would be below the poverty line
00:20:51.780which is a ton it's a lot of people by the way if you're if you're wondering about
00:21:01.020relative different like what's what's the what's it called again i want to see the genie score or
00:21:06.460something genie coefficient yeah yeah between china and the united states yeah in the united
00:21:11.920states it's 0.74 to 0.83 and in china it's 0.62 to 0.70 so it's actually slightly better in china
00:21:21.840the core reason being that there are not as many super wealthy people in china and the super wealthy
00:21:26.980are not as super wealthy as they are in the united states yeah but yeah it's it's only marginally
00:21:33.860different like it's not like a for a communist country it's a really high genie coefficient
00:21:39.620yeah yeah so let's also we can talk about their pension plans again like i i thought china had a
00:21:45.860better system because i mean in other in other countries that aren't like oh like leading top
00:21:50.820country like in peru i think their their retirement system is super super decent like you have your
00:21:56.100account you can log into it online you can see it your employer is required i think to put a month's
00:22:02.180worth of salary into it twice a year yeah no that's different but there are there like there's
00:22:08.380there's significant contributions i'm thinking there are different things so four times a year
00:22:13.080you as an employer have to like pay double your employee's salary and twice a year that's just to
00:22:18.880give them like extra money a windfall to buy the things you need a windfall to get to like fix
00:22:24.520something in your house or like, yeah, pay a hospital bill. And then, although they do have
00:22:28.600government provided healthcare, some fix something in your house. And then the other, the other one
00:22:33.400is to, to contribute toward your unemployment account, which is a separate bank account that
00:22:37.660just fills up. And then when you, or when you get fired or when you leave that job, that account is
00:22:42.840just yours. It's great. We've even had employees be like, Hey, please fire me. I want to like cash
00:22:47.980that out. And we're like, no, we're not doing that. That's like super illegal, but that there's
00:22:52.600that and then you also see your retirement account so i'm like okay china's gotta have something like
00:22:56.400that but they don't have something like that they have this three pillar setup which is like there's
00:23:01.300a basic public pension which is still the main source and then there are employer or occupational
00:23:05.600plans that's like having a 401k we don't have a 401k like even we as an employer aren't big enough
00:23:10.420to be able to afford to offer a 401k so that's not even a thing that for even america and then
00:23:14.820there's also like voluntary private pensions with tax tax incentives kind of like a roth ira or an
00:23:20.240IRA in the United States, but the Chinese version of it, like basically you're on your own, like if
00:23:25.020you can save your own money, if you're wealthy enough for that. But these pensions, resident
00:23:29.280pensions, they're super low. So while the national minimums have risen from 55 yuan per month at the
00:23:36.100programs launched to around 143 yuan in 2025, and then local governments may top it up, even average
00:23:44.640pensions are like around 246 yuan per month it's it's it's just super low like this is it is a
00:23:51.920trivial amount of money that is not going to cover your actual expenses and then in contrast in the
00:23:58.200united states social security that was going to start faltering in like five years because
00:24:04.160we messed it up okay demographic collapse blah blah we've talked about this a lot
00:24:09.920So it's not going to keep working like this, but yeah, maybe AI will fix it for a typical retirement.
00:24:18.360Oh, well, yeah, sure. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, actually, you're totally right. It will, because right now, the way that social security in the United States is going to falter is that it is, the program is being funded by the social security payments of the current working generation.
00:24:35.040they didn't do the whole thing. We're like, I mean, as AI takes people's jobs, it's money's
00:24:41.380going in a way that's not going to make it easy to filter into the tax system. Yeah. And so how
00:24:46.600it's going to work is now the, those who remain working, like it's currently expected that like
00:24:52.060in 2030, something like 76% of like you're, instead of getting like, let's say you were
00:25:00.240owed a thousand dollars a month now you're going to get seven that seven hundred and sixty dollars
00:25:05.160a month and you're going to be really resentful meanwhile some like beleaguered working person
00:25:09.800is like great well i'm never going to get social security and here you are resenting the money that
00:25:13.640i'm sending you every month great but yeah that's let's not let's pretend it's working the way it
00:25:19.880was supposed to okay so i mean i think this is this is one of the things that people need to0.99
00:25:24.400come to grips with old people are going to die in mass was in our lives yeah because i mean as1.00
00:25:30.980much as they're going to resent receiving their 750 instead of a thousand dollars a month1.00
00:25:35.040their entire life was built over depending on that fixed income like where are they going to
00:25:39.880get more money are they going to get a job again like they've already retired it's going to be
00:25:43.700hard for them to get rehired in the ai age when no one can get rehired yeah this is where i the
00:25:48.460people who are against like made and stuff like that like it's got its problems but like i just
00:25:53.900don't see other realistic solutions uh in in the united states uh given i mean obviously if we can
00:26:01.760milk the ai companies but that only works for us what what then do the latin american countries do0.96
00:26:05.880you know what then does europe do right yeah so it's it's gonna be bad anyway china's china's
00:26:11.800pension plan as it is meant to function and keep in mind with all these plans as i've pointed out
00:26:17.180with the other examples like medical examples they don't necessarily play out the way they've
00:26:21.260been promised to play out. Okay. But you know, the, the Chinese one, it's like, well, you get
00:26:26.700like sort of the equivalent of maybe like $200 a month or something. Like maybe it'll help you
00:26:31.680with a little bit of food, but it's not going to support your life. The way that social security
00:26:36.500is designed to work in practice, in theory, you know, until we screwed it up is it was going to
00:26:44.040replace around 40% of your pre-retirement earnings with replacement rates being higher for low
00:26:50.380earners. So if you didn't really have a high income during your working years, you'd be making
00:26:55.020roughly 60 to 80% of your monthly paycheck. And if you were a high earner, you'd be making less.
00:27:02.940So basically the social security administration indexes each year of your past earnings to the
00:27:08.300national wage growth. And then it takes your 35 highest earning years to compute your average
00:27:13.580index to monthly earnings. And for people first eligible in 2025, the formula replaces 90%
00:27:20.360of the first a aime your your average earning so like if you're if you're in the lowest belt you
00:27:26.280get 90 of your former earnings and then you get 32 in the middle and then 15 in the top slice which
00:27:33.160makes sense because you know after you're making like i don't what two hundred thousand dollars a
00:27:37.400year like you didn't actually need all that you probably do if you're living like some crazy0.76
00:27:43.240dink style american but you know what i mean right but that's very generous and that's just0.51
00:27:48.440not what you get in china so again like i feel like the united states is more socialist more
00:27:52.580communist ish you know in terms of like we're providing these abundant benefits than than china
00:27:57.800is by that is wild yeah but it's like in every single layer of the economy and i almost want to
00:28:05.500zoom out to the meta level of this why if this is the case why if the united states are so socialist
00:28:10.280compared to china why do leftists laud china right seriously why does hassan piker laud china
00:28:20.960and hate america when america is much closer to the economic system that he claims that he wants
00:28:27.280and it's not just him you see a lot of leftists online doing this and then i think the the answer
00:28:32.980is obvious it is that these people simply hate america they hate american values and they hate
00:28:41.000what they see america as representing they don't care that china has you know is is genociding at
00:28:49.080the moment they are doing a genocide right now right against one of the protected populations
00:28:54.320no one talks about that well it's a bummer no one cares anymore the right son's uncle's name
00:29:02.800is a literally what is it jank weger you'd think he'd anyway well weird i mean the answer is
00:29:11.720they hate us they want us dead and they want us gone that's just the full of it right there is
00:29:20.200there is nothing else there is a group of people out there that wants to create a future yeah there's
00:29:25.860a group of people out there that wants to eradicate the one civilization as we call it from the map
00:29:32.420right and they see china as a tool for them achieving that yeah and you know i think it's
00:29:40.380important one that we remember that this fight is existential and that is why we cannot turn away
00:29:47.160potential allies just because they don't fit your purity test because then we will have coalitions
00:29:53.020that can't win elections and the people working against us are willing to pull in allies from
00:30:01.660groups as diverse as Islamists and LGBT activists, right? Environmental activists who actually care
00:30:10.500about the future, e.g. pro-nuclear environmental activists and anti-nuclear environmental activists
00:30:16.260who just want to shut everything down and destroy civilization. But these groups work together and
00:30:21.380they still vote Democrat together, right? But they know how stupid this is, right?1.00
00:30:25.140I don't know if they do. Because, I mean, for example, you know, we engage in a lot of1.00
00:30:30.500pro-natalist activism, right? And one of the constant rallying cries that we'll get from
00:30:35.820people in this group is like, well, then if you think people should have more kids, then you need
00:30:40.480to pay people to have more kids. And I just want to, like, we through pronatalist.org one year just
00:30:46.480sat down and hired a bunch of people who specialized in their own respective states
00:30:50.800in helping families navigate the state's benefit systems. You know, just what does our
00:30:57.300socialist communist country provide to families in need. And it is anyone, I'll link to this in
00:31:05.060the show notes, but you can find on Substack and Patreon. The sheer amount of resources that we
00:31:12.620offer to families in the United States, if you're out or near the poverty line, mind you, again,
00:31:18.140if you're middle class, you get to bankroll it all, but not get any of it. But let me just go
00:31:24.540through, for example, Minnesota, because, you know, everyone's talking about Minnesota's benefits,
00:31:29.240which are being also like not even provided to the people who think that they're getting them
00:31:34.480because instead they're being fraud. Fraud is fraud is happening, but you get obviously medical
00:31:39.800assistance if you're low income. And this is just like full coverage at private hospitals,
00:31:46.080great medical care. They have this thing called Minnesota care. In addition to just like Medicaid,0.80
00:31:50.860It's a health care plan offered to low income individuals. There are no premiums for children. Adults may have some monthly costs, but it is if you're a Minnesota resident or US citizen or you're lawfully president present in the US and you meet their income guidelines and you're not in jail, you and you don't have access to Medicare already through some other means.
00:32:12.860then you get minnesota care so that they have backups to medicare okay then there's also mnsure
00:32:18.820which is minnesota's health insurance marketplace so you have you know additional access to that if
00:32:24.500you can't for whatever reason access medicaid or minnesota care and that that also helps but i
00:32:31.440think that's closer to like what china china offers you know that now we've we finally made
00:32:36.380it to the CCP level, which is something then there's also, and this is not income gated.
00:32:41.760So I appreciate this is Minnesota vaccines for children, which ensures that all children
00:32:47.040have access to timely vaccinations, regardless of household income level and all participating
00:32:52.900hospital hospitals and clinics will offer it.
00:32:56.120So you, you just, if you basically, if you feel like you can't pay for your child's vaccination,
00:33:01.860you just ask your medical provider about the program and they're like, great, we can get
00:33:05.260coverage for this you're good then we move on to snap which was i think discussed a lot online even
00:33:11.160if you're not in the u.s you're probably familiar with the program because it was like payment to
00:33:15.020it was kind of suspended for a little bit last autumn people are like i'm just gonna rob stores
00:33:19.740if the government doesn't support my lifestyle for free yeah like what else am i supposed to do
00:33:24.840get a job yeah so based on your income and assets and family size and participation in other
00:33:30.800government programs like child care assistance and and ssi you could basically it's like a debit
00:33:37.720card and you just go to a store and you buy food and of course people are like famously buying
00:33:43.220i think they're the trump administration is trying to put limits on this but just cookies
00:33:48.840candy branded products like it's it it's not like other programs um that exist in some states where
00:33:55.000like you have to buy like you can only buy eggs and milk and whole grain bread and like healthy
00:34:00.900yeah and and so it's it's different then then there's the one that i was talking about which
00:34:06.280is that there's so many do you see how many programs there are there's this program called
00:34:10.880wick which is women infants and children and this is the one where they're they're health food nazis
00:34:15.500and you you also get a debit card but you can only use it on designated and approved foods
00:34:21.840And it's for pregnant mothers and nursing mothers and children under five.