Based Camp - Why Are Famous Communists Usually Rich Nepo Babies？

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be exploring the

00:00:05.920 phenomenon that you may not be aware of which is most socialist and communist leaders and i really

00:00:12.400 mean most communist leaders oh like actual like world leaders like yes going into distant history

00:00:20.320 up to modern times were born to incredible wealth and the question is is why why does this trend

00:00:28.560 happen and it's something i've seen as well with you know all the wealthy kids especially the ones

00:00:32.880 who didn't have to earn it being incredibly like the most communist socialist people i know

00:00:46.400 yeah no there's there was this one like trust fund kid conference that you

00:00:50.000 you yeah or something not something not cemetery nexus global nexus nexus global and um everyone

00:00:57.520 and it was really like kids of of very wealthy families who had basically family foundations

00:01:04.080 that were charities talking about how they're going to spend their family foundations money

00:01:09.600 and it was all woke nonsense and it was all it was all like socialists too marxists and communists

00:01:15.200 which is so weird yeah because and it wasn't like meant to be a marxist conference it was meant to be

00:01:20.240 a rich kid conference okay so you see this constantly so let's go over where we see this phenomenon playing

00:01:25.120 out i'm just gonna read to you names here right okay okay this isn't just a historic thing this is

00:01:29.920 a modern thing as well zohan mondani you know the guy who's the communist running for the man of the

00:01:34.800 people yeah born to oscar-nominated filmmaker miyar nar and colombian professor muhammad mondi

00:01:41.280 young zohan enjoyed a jet-setting lifestyle between new york india and uganda what family vacations

00:01:46.800 included film sets and academic conferences perfect prep for fighting capitalism right but hey at least he

00:01:53.600 traded red carpets for red politics fidel castro fidel's cost fidel's father owned a 25 000 acre

00:02:01.920 plantation with 500 employees where little fidel rode horses attended elite jesuit schools and bossed

00:02:07.680 around servants one anecdote he once staged a quote-unquote revolt against his strict boarding

00:02:12.720 school by locking himself in with candy foreshadowing a real revolution minus the sweets from castro's

00:02:19.840 family wealth and early life stories hassan piker hassan's father was a vp at a billion dollar

00:02:25.520 conglomerate and a board member of multiple forms affording a posh istanbul upbringing with private 0.67

00:02:31.280 schools and family trips funny bit hassan once joked about his uncle sick yuger the young church's

00:02:37.440 founder who we'll go into next as a nefo baby but skipped mentioning his dad's empire

00:02:43.120 you talk about screaming from a glass house sec by the way grew up in east broadenswick an affluent

00:02:49.120 suburb with strong cools before the family settled and blah blah blah he he also had a fantastically

00:02:54.800 wealthy family but less wealthy than hassan hassan's family was a from what i can read multi-billionaires

00:03:02.560 not multi-billionaires but they ran multi-billionaire corporations sex was probably a few hundred million

00:03:07.360 either way neither of them have to worry about money so clearly that's why they don't care about lying

00:03:12.480 about you think that both jenkin and hassan are trust fund kids yes they never have to worry about

00:03:18.880 money in their lives if something went wrong or anything they wouldn't have to like if if hassan

00:03:23.760 really loses it for shocking his dog like a psychopath i america kaya please just go just stop

00:03:31.760 god just on stay on the bed yeah well neither will chat i'm busy 0.64

00:03:44.480 and here's the thing i actually don't even mind shot callers for people who aren't aware of this

00:03:47.680 so hassan's one of like the leading like lefty streamers right and he got caught after the dog

00:03:54.560 had sat in a corner for four hours like yelling at his dog and then shocking it so that it like yelped

00:04:00.560 and went back in the corner when it just tried to get up and walk around i'm actually like

00:04:03.920 shot callers whatever like for me you know like we do corporal punishment like whatever but forcing

00:04:10.560 a dog to sit in one corner for four hours as a prop and we can see on earlier videos he used to chain

00:04:16.640 it up to do this like we have a dog we could use it as a prop but we don't like that's a psychotic

00:04:22.480 thing to do i don't have my kid in the corner like shot caller to make sure they don't they 0.99

00:04:27.280 don't move from their spot like we should we should oh my gosh next episode just expect to

00:04:34.240 see octavian in the corner with a big ass collar on no but i also love oh we got to do that for 0.71

00:04:39.920 halloween what are you zork 0.94

00:04:41.280 he would love that just sit him back on this windowsill he will just die no so the funny thing

00:04:48.480 is is like we have the whole like bop gate for us like when we do like horrible punishment with our

00:04:52.720 kids and and i so want to be like in a debate with susan about this and i'm like yeah and you

00:04:57.280 know what the difference between you and me is is i'm honest about the things i do as punishment

00:05:02.960 because i'm willing to stand behind them you are not this is the difference between you and me and my

00:05:08.880 friend when that came out we didn't go out there and be like no we we would never do that i'm like

00:05:14.480 we told you we were doing this beforehand in our episodes here's all the science that shows that

00:05:18.960 it's a good thing to do probably i mean here's our logic behind doing it so i just love what

00:05:24.160 what and what i hate about hassan most right now in terms of how he's handling this is he's forcing

00:05:29.040 other people to put their reputations on the line and lie for him i don't think he's forcing

00:05:34.560 him i think they're voluntarily doing it i mean obviously what my favorite was the one recently

00:05:39.120 where the girl came out and she goes no no there's no shock like the electric prongs are taken out of

00:05:44.080 it like it's only a vibrates like there's a setting for vibrate and there's a setting

00:05:48.080 for shock so he there's only the like since the prongs are in it it only vibrates

00:05:54.080 and then she said and that had been taped over and now we know that hassan was showing one with

00:05:58.160 shock prongs taken out and tapped over if you've never used one of these shock colors before uh the

00:06:02.880 prongs are removable in any of them it's a standard feature right you just take out the prongs because

00:06:07.920 the idea is is that once you use it for a certain period of time the dog gets used to it and then it

00:06:13.440 only needs the beef and the rumble and you don't actually need the shock things to contact the

00:06:18.160 dog anymore but hassan had said that it wasn't a shock collar it was a rumble version and a friend

00:06:23.280 goes oh i went to his house it was a shock collar he just took out the prongs by that point but the

00:06:27.280 dog's not going to yelp on the rumble setting right so uh-oh anyway side there frederick angles

00:06:35.040 angles grew up in a sprawling family estate with mills across europe think victorian downtown abbey but

00:06:41.200 downtown oh boy anecdote as a teen he skipped business lessons to party in manchester's elite

00:06:47.920 circles then used his inheritance to bankroll marks irony and the guy who co-wrote the anti-capitalist

00:06:54.160 bible was basically a trust fund kid subsidizing the proletariat someone's gonna do it what sorry 0.99

00:07:00.720 you got thoughts here i i don't i mean who's gonna bankroll the socialists if not nepo babies though 0.95

00:07:08.560 well i mean this is they don't have the means of production it's not a i i i without getting

00:07:15.440 because people know i didn't get any family wealth from my family i could have not exactly my family's

00:07:20.640 choice although they had always told me i wouldn't inherit money but it was all stolen as well so like

00:07:24.640 it's it's very public that there's no way i could have gotten any money for my family which is good i

00:07:29.280 like that everyone knows you know i could be a communist if i want to but self-made people very

00:07:33.680 rarely want to become communist that's that's the problem right like people who are successful

00:07:38.960 within the capitalist system rather than just handed their money and this is one of the reasons why i

00:07:43.040 think you get this pattern they see the value in the capitalist system the people who are just handed

00:07:47.440 everything they have nothing but guilt and they want to frame themselves as good guys vladimir lenin

00:07:51.920 lenin's father was a high-ranking inspector with hereditary nobility affording elite schooling and a

00:07:56.960 family estate childhood tale young vladimir both hosted quote-unquote revolutionary games in the garden

00:08:02.560 bossing siblings like a mini czar until his brother's execution flipped the script from noble

00:08:08.480 picnics to proletarian purges che's upper middle-class family owned estates he grew up playing polo

00:08:17.120 rugby at elite clubs che was a polo kid polo kid oh no as a kid he staged quote-unquote battles at the

00:08:28.480 family ranch they had a branch of course complete with toy guns and servants as quote-unquote enemies

00:08:34.400 foreshadowing his real life oh my god i love the sociopathy the servants have to play the enemies

00:08:43.200 all of my friends on my side and we'll just gun down the servants which is what he did in real life 1.00

00:08:48.240 good practice well what we see is what communist revolutions really almost always are is idiots 0.99

00:08:56.080 who think they're fighting for equality that these types of elitely educated people are using and then 1.00

00:09:01.280 a cabal of wealthy elites who are utilizing those idiots to centralize their power and assure 0.98

00:09:07.680 an even less what's the word i'm looking for here a society where people can move between class 0.99

00:09:12.560 distinctions it's really about solidifying elite power structures and you see this with current

00:09:18.240 communists as well like that's that's clearly what they want right they do not want they do not want

00:09:23.680 like if you go to your average antifa rally and you're like great we're gonna help like the the forgotten

00:09:30.880 rural rust belt community oh that's not who we were talking about uplifting i was thinking more the

00:09:38.560 the the trans trust fund kids who literally as i point out like i don't understand how anybody falls

00:09:46.480 for you got these trans people who dress like they're literally like from the capital and the

00:09:49.920 hunger games pretending that they're like allied with like the the the working poor right like no 0.78

00:09:57.920 you hate them and it's very clear when you talk about them that you hate them right and it's very

00:10:03.200 clear that you don't live in these communities despite the statistics i'll give you we have another

00:10:06.960 episode on this i'm gonna do another episode on it in more detail but like the trans murder rates are

00:10:11.040 like super super low especially if you take out trans black people which make up like 50 that blew my 1.00

00:10:15.680 mind yeah because it was typically discussed that like trans people especially because many of them

00:10:21.120 enter sex work to support their transition and whatnot like are disproportionately supposed to risk etc

00:10:27.920 it's because they're they're they're in upper class communities often and leeching off of our

00:10:32.000 class communities even if they themselves don't have jobs and and this is what i've noticed is

00:10:36.400 people will act like well i'm really poor when they're living with like their rich friend in

00:10:41.120 manhattan or something like that who's helping to pay for everything right and it's like

00:10:47.120 okay i mean you might technically be poor but you are living in manhattan right and i know for a fact

00:10:53.520 if you were everyone feels poor in manhattan yeah you would be doing that right so clearly you're

00:10:58.800 getting money from somewhere next one pol pot i don't know if you knew this one pol pot with a

00:11:04.640 wealthy family was royal court ties he grew up with french tutors and lived in the king's palace as a

00:11:10.560 page boy french page boy pol pot page boy pol pot this is the one who did the cambodian revolution

00:11:17.360 where they had the killing fields and they just like one of the most brutal communist dictators in in

00:11:22.000 history god french tutors page boy this does not check out these people are good at rebrands

00:11:29.120 so the peasant utopia the architect enjoyed elite scholar scholarships in paris studying radio tech

00:11:35.200 while shipping cafe lattes oh sorry sipping cafe lattes before banning all that burgundy's 0.89

00:11:42.160 burgundy's stuff back home i can't even say these tommy words bourgeois that's what what it is

00:11:47.200 kind of words my american tongue um you gotta burgundy's burgundy's oh my god malcolm so much

00:11:58.800 oh it kills me it kills me so much jessica milford from britain's eccentric milford nobility jessica

00:12:06.480 grew up in a spalling estate with servants debutante balls and fascist siblings she once carved a hammer and 0.59

00:12:13.440 sickle into her bedroom window to troll her dad then he loped with a communist cousin to fight in 0.58

00:12:19.280 spain carl marx by the carl marx was also not poor marx's lawyer dad owned rhine vineyards funding carl's

00:12:27.600 posh schooling in bond where he painted dueled and racked up debts dueled all right you know classy

00:12:36.320 young carl once got jailed for a drunken night out bailed out by daddy's cash later on he lived in

00:12:42.400 engels mill money while writing manifestos so literally it's like the law doesn't apply to

00:12:48.880 me i'm so rich level of rich there right i mean yeah to be socialist or communist though you have

00:12:57.440 to be subversive and and subversiveness often requires a a pretty sizable level of personal

00:13:03.920 empowerment and confidence which is easy to get when you're wealthy well if you look at what happened

00:13:09.120 with marx it's very clear he was grew up super wealthy so we'll see the rules didn't apply to him

00:13:14.560 he never had to worry about working or a job or anything like that and as soon as that stuff was

00:13:18.320 required of him because he didn't expect it ever would be required of him he's like well i need some

00:13:22.720 alternate system to pay for my lifestyle right and that's when engels started to support him um but the

00:13:30.080 the point here being is that he and a lot of these wealthy kids simply do not have a world view where

00:13:36.880 they are ever going to work that you know that is that is antithetical to

00:13:47.120 sorry all right we're gonna keep going here but we're getting we're getting every name on the list

00:13:52.000 here mao's a dong this isn't so mao mao's father was a prosperous farmer money lender with vast lands

00:13:59.360 afforded private tutors and elite schools teen mao staged hunger strikes against his dead strict rules

00:14:05.040 hiding in barns with books ironic for the guy who'd later starve millions in the great leap forward

00:14:10.560 well he tried it it wasn't so bad yeah okay leon trotsky trotsky's dad owns massive farms with

00:14:16.960 laborers young leon had private tutors and summer horseback rides he once commanded farm kids in mock

00:14:23.680 battles prep for leading real armies but was way more privileged than the proletariat he championed 0.97

00:14:28.640 now pete capron and and and he's a what's the word anarchist communist back in the 19th century

00:14:38.480 oh a russian aristocrat and proponent of anarcho-communism was born into a noble land-owning

00:14:44.320 family descending from the ancient rurik family his father owned serfs across three provinces and

00:14:50.240 kropkin grew up in moscow mansion with with attached estates educated at the

00:14:56.160 and serving as a personal page to emperor alexander the second good um oh come on we're not done

00:15:03.840 here ho chi min ho chi min born nung sang kun to a confucian scholar father who was an imperial

00:15:12.000 magistrate ho grew up in the rural vietnamese village with some family star status perks like 0.84

00:15:18.000 private tutoring and classical chinese texts he flew kites fished in rivers and enjoyed a relatively

00:15:23.760 carefree childhood in the elite college in ho a top french academy for vietnamese nobles where

00:15:28.880 future leaders like phan bondong and vo and guan also studied at around age 10 he got expelled or

00:15:35.200 nearly so for protesting french teachers distributory treatment of vietnamese students

00:15:39.680 foreshadowing his

00:15:42.880 sorry i'll mute myself next year bertrand russell

00:15:48.320 born into britain's elite the grandson of a two-time prime minister no these aren't like

00:15:53.120 kind of rich people these are the super wealthy super elite super old blood people is what we

00:16:00.480 keep seeing here you know like in the imperial family playing polo as a kid etc young bertrand

00:16:06.240 was orphaned early and raised by his strict victorian grandmother at her luxurious pinbook

00:16:11.920 lodge in richmond park a sprawling estate fit for royalty with students and servants and gardens galore

00:16:18.400 his private tutors no need for regular school lived in isolation from other kids until 17 leading to a

00:16:24.800 lonely but intellectually loaded childhood where he contemplated unalivingness but was saved by books

00:16:30.160 in mass i love he's so close to modern people bertrand russell at 11 his brother introduced him to

00:16:35.840 euclid's geometry which he called as dazzling as first love sparking a lifelong package and he he secretly

00:16:42.880 ditched christianity becoming an atheist at 18 after reading mills bonus as a teen he jetted to the

00:16:49.680 1989 prayers exhibition and climbed the brand new eiffel tower climbed it all funded by family well

00:16:59.120 it has stairs for the he walked up the stairs oh that okay alexander kolotny kolotny daughter of a

00:17:08.640 russian general from a noble family i've been to the top of it by the way i just thought he just

00:17:12.640 took the elevator yeah maybe he did family with ukrainian and finnish roots grew up in luxury

00:17:18.560 estate servants elite education actually i'm not even going to say any more of these if i already

00:17:22.560 recognize them we've got a well this one could be relevant to our eastern european inver hoaxa he's

00:17:28.560 an albanian communist leader son of wealthy muslim landowner and cloth merchant with ties to the ottoman

00:17:33.600 elite we got tony ben i've heard of him british socialist politician born antony wedgewood ben

00:17:40.160 that's a aristocratic name if i've ever heard one the aristocratic son of a viscount and the

00:17:44.480 grandson of a baronet lived off of inherited wealth jessica milfort british writer and activist

00:17:50.160 from the aristocratic milfort family philip tony b british communist journalist and writer son of

00:17:56.560 renowned historian andrew tony b from the intellectual elite family benefited from nepotistic connections

00:18:02.560 and esmond rommel lee nephew of winston churchill who the british communist and he was winston

00:18:07.840 churchill's nephew born to aristocratic privilege use family wealth and education for becoming a

00:18:13.360 communist fighter in the spanish civil war so churchill goes and has this africa adventure and

00:18:17.680 this guy goes to the uh so thoughts on this because this is really a full list this is modern to ancient

00:18:24.240 from the beginning of this to zorhan mondani right yeah so it makes me think about the the sort of other

00:18:31.280 angle that a lot of people have looked at this systematic disempowerment or wealth redistribution

00:18:36.320 of wealthy families in typically like communist and socialist regimes and how over time both in

00:18:43.440 like eastern europe and in in asia descendants of those families that were systematically disempowered

00:18:49.360 just end up in very influential and wealthy positions again yes i just feel like you get this is

00:18:54.960 just another element of disproportionately wealthy and intellectual families producing disproportionately

00:19:00.880 wealthy and influential people it just so happens that they chose to use the government corruption

00:19:07.840 slash like socialist scam to obtain their power and wealth in this case but like by using the same

00:19:14.160 tactics that a capitalist would use i want to expand on your point before i disagree with your point okay

00:19:20.880 to expand on your point the study she's citing which i personally find fascinating and show how much of

00:19:24.640 competence is genetic that in china they did a fairly good job of consolidating wealth among a few elite

00:19:32.320 families and then disenfranchising all the other elite families and putting them on the bottom of

00:19:35.680 society and then the bottom of society was raised just like higher class and it was much easier to get

00:19:40.320 jobs and positions if your ancestors had been farmers and if they had been like you you were treated with

00:19:45.120 active derision in your daily life well today you know 100 years later if you look at the people who are in

00:19:51.920 leadership positions within the communist party i think it's something like they're 45 of them or

00:19:56.800 something are descended from those very people who are put on the bottom of society at the beginning of

00:20:01.680 the communist revolution and so it just sort of like re resorts itself this is part of why cambodia has

00:20:10.160 never really economically recovered when other regions have economically recovered like vietnam and china

00:20:15.840 because in china in vietnam they just treated their wealthy elite during the communist period

00:20:20.320 like underclass citizens in cambodia they were systematically eradicated and because of that 0.90

00:20:25.120 cambodia has never been able to really re-industrialize them the same way because they

00:20:29.680 just don't have that class of people anymore and i think in cambodia now a lot of wealth is just owned

00:20:34.640 by chinese who who came in because they still had that class of people who could come in and soak 1.00

00:20:38.000 everything up i've heard that yeah so one number that i was able to find on this is that chinese

00:20:42.560 people own uh 92 percent of the business assets in cambodia this is what happens if you eat the rich

00:20:49.920 in your country the rich from another country come and take over well and there's actually that's the

00:20:56.400 case apparently in a lot of a lot of well we have another episode on this the jews of asia but the

00:21:00.720 point is is you benefit from this elite class enormously and and what what communism really is is a revolt

00:21:08.880 of a few factions with that elite class against the rest of that elite class using the poor to achieve

00:21:15.920 that end it is not and people can be like oh well real communism's never been tried that's not the

00:21:20.800 way communism is supposed to be done but i will say that communism may work in a world with ai we can

00:21:25.040 talk about that we've talked about that and that's kind of the point is that the the the actually

00:21:30.160 respectable leaders in in communist theory pointed out that this is a post-scarcity

00:21:35.040 system only but this makes sense in a post-agi super prosperous world sorry but just just quickly

00:21:42.240 here i agree with what you're saying but i want to explain why it doesn't work pre-scarcity okay

00:21:48.640 where you still have any degree well it's obvious because the why you basically need just infinite

00:21:54.560 resources created by people who aren't people so that no one has power that's not why so like on paper 0.74

00:22:01.040 communism could work like this idea that you could give ownership of the means of production to the

00:22:08.080 people right and then sort of decentralized power entirely and have everybody sort of agree on this

00:22:15.360 decentralized worker-owned world right like this could hypothetically exist the problem is

00:22:25.760 as many people have tried to create this before like it's not all communist efforts were disingenuous

00:22:30.240 but when you decentralize power to that extent the extent that it exists within quote-unquote real

00:22:35.440 communism anyone who is willing to subvert that system say actually i'm not going to let go of my

00:22:44.560 decentralized power can concentrate power and then take it from the decentralized architecture which is

00:22:51.840 why communist systems always turn into because if you said oh well we're all giving up all of this and all

00:22:59.360 of this and all of this and one person's like well i'm going to be running the let's just say like

00:23:04.560 and you can do this from any position of government eventually centralized power whether you are checking

00:23:09.680 to make sure the supply lines are working correctly or running the supply lines or running you know quota

00:23:16.320 checks or running you know anything like that you you can easily or you determine you know the exchange

00:23:22.720 rates or you you know anything where you have a degree of power you can just further concentrate that power and

00:23:28.560 then create a crony system where everyone under you because they are getting disproportionate wealth

00:23:33.280 because of you and disproportionate power because of you has a has a a vested interest in maintaining

00:23:38.960 this new system i do not think that many of the communists who go and start these systems realize that

00:23:44.880 that's what's going to happen they think that they are actually going out and redistributing wealth in

00:23:49.920 some sort of meaningful context and what ends up and the reason i think they hold these beliefs is when you

00:23:56.320 are incredibly wealthy and you grow up you're not punished for wrong beliefs you are not punished

00:24:02.720 for making mistakes you are not punished for when i mean punished i don't mean like by your parents

00:24:07.680 i mean by reality right people who make their own money if you make a mistake like right now like we

00:24:13.680 don't have a job like we're working on a startup we're trying to make this work we just got turned down

00:24:17.760 by andresen so we were you know on our way with them so now we've got to find out what we're going

00:24:22.880 to do next and this is you know five kids right like i get punished for my mistakes if i don't

00:24:28.960 perform i can't create something that people want to use with you know parisio.io our school system or

00:24:34.960 our fab.ai our you know online agent system for like chat bots or the new system we're building with

00:24:41.440 our fab.ai that will allow you to have like persistently online bots that are just sort of

00:24:46.800 always running and can like give you phone calls and answer your texts and send you texts and send

00:24:51.280 you emails and do coding for you and and we'll have like persistent personalities which evolve over time

00:24:57.760 think of it like a tamagotchi human i don't know how to put it right like a a pocket human very excited

00:25:04.800 to start releasing those onto the world because the ones we have in our test environment are really cool

00:25:08.880 but where am i was this stuff yeah i've i've had to and we've we've built it before you're

00:25:14.000 basically saying trust fund kids and nepa babies are are doing bowling but with the bumpers on

00:25:20.960 yeah and if you're doing bowling with the bumpers on you choose the the the thing that makes you

00:25:25.200 you're just throwing the ball you're just throwing the ball you're not you're not really aiming in any

00:25:29.280 meaningful way whereas with the rest of the world is is playing with the gutters and they end up in

00:25:36.400 the gutters when they screw up and and that changes everything learn for example how incompetent

00:25:42.640 the masses are one of the the first things you learn if you're managing lots of people

00:25:47.040 is how incompetent your average person is and that that it is really hard i mean that's what makes

00:25:52.800 management hard is you can't just handle everything yourself right and fortunately ai has fixed that for

00:25:58.640 me because now i just use more and more ai employees and i'm working on building more and more ai

00:26:02.720 employees well it enables you to to you you now only have to work or can choose to work with the top

00:26:10.480 point one percent which is so nice you don't have to depend on anyone else yeah which is going to

00:26:16.240 potentially make a system like communism well not traditional communism maybe some sort of like ubi

00:26:20.560 system but that will have huge negative effects watch all our videos on how bad ubi is so like i don't 0.83

00:26:25.120 know where humanity is going we'll probably need some sort of like simulated hardship especially once we

00:26:29.680 enter a yeah people are gonna need to have jobs that's it yeah um but what i can say is we're not

00:26:39.280 headed to gay space communism it's very unlikely when you look at fertility rates because people 1.00

00:26:43.600 who accept these types of ideas have incredibly low fertility rates and they have historically as

00:26:47.760 well as we point out like east berlin had much lower fertility rates in west berlin east austria which

00:26:52.080 by the way one of our fans didn't realize that austria was divided like germany it was i had much

00:26:55.680 lower fertility rates in west austria and the soviet states had lower fertility rates and so the the

00:27:00.880 during the baby room and so the question is is like how do you people and you know within most

00:27:06.080 countries the more leftist you are the fewer kids you have so they're just not going to exist in the

00:27:09.040 future and so we're much more likely to have like the austere techno puritan like spaceships and and

00:27:13.680 catholic spaceships and the we'll say right we're we're heading much much more to the warhammer future

00:27:19.280 okay than the i i'd say even starship troopers or star trek futures so it i i think that that's it

00:27:28.080 i think it's it's that i also think that if you are born into wealth and privilege and you expect to

00:27:35.520 inherit money and i have noticed this the kids who go communists are the kids whose parents set up

00:27:40.720 systems for them where they inspect to inherit wealth if i look at my wider family which i've often

00:27:45.520 pointed out is incredibly successful you know we i i know the way i was raised i was always raised

00:27:52.800 the expectation that i'd inherit nothing and not only have we been incredibly successful

00:27:57.040 financially like most of them i am the big failure in the family i i literally have three siblings or

00:28:02.480 cousins that run a fund that's like around a billion dollars and then others that run like major ai

00:28:08.160 studios and stuff like that that you've heard and he means each then it's not the same these are all

00:28:12.080 separate not the same it's separate funds that they other people gave them control of not like

00:28:17.680 family money or something like that and so and they're usually pretty conservative most of my

00:28:23.120 family is pretty conservative except for one of the uncles who used to run the fed but he wasn't raised

00:28:27.440 in the family so the or at least they're not like far woke or whatever right and so i think that what

00:28:33.200 it is that it depends on how you're raised the family are you raised with sort of the expectation of

00:28:37.920 a life of luxury without and this is i've noticed this was rich families as well which can create

00:28:42.880 this problem is the family will give disproportionate attention to a disproportionate money to

00:28:50.320 whoever is the loudest member of the family and whoever is willing to do the most you know work on

00:28:54.640 trying to gain control of the trust and everything like that and these are often the least competent

00:28:59.040 individuals because they don't have another way to make money right like if you if you're competent you

00:29:03.600 go out and you make money in some other way and if you're incompetent well then you stay within the

00:29:07.440 family and so their lifestyle structurally looks like communism and i think the reason they argue

00:29:13.200 for communism is because they think could i go out in the world and like make something useful that

00:29:18.720 people want and will pay for and that helps other people like no like i don't want to do that so i will

00:29:24.640 play a game that doesn't have metrics right which is the game of revolution and a game that can make

00:29:31.280 everybody's life like my life so i don't have to live with this cognitive dissonance without really

00:29:35.040 thinking about the actual consequences of what they're doing any thoughts simone i am curious to

00:29:44.880 know if there are any major communist or socialist leaders who came from a background of poverty did

00:29:52.480 you look that up i can look that up i mean i'm sure it'll find at least one sorry i'd look it up but

00:29:58.480 he's gassy and i'm trying to get him to let it out trying the stomach massage the the foot thing the

00:30:07.440 the backpats burping bubbles gotta go i mean i i named almost all of them in that list right like

00:30:15.760 there yeah yeah he left after that list but like potentially i just want to see how how far down it

00:30:20.880 has to go in terms did you mention stalin stalin but stalin was the consolidator right he was the

00:30:30.720 guy who had to make things work he wasn't actually like a communist communist you know he was like 1.00

00:30:35.360 i'm going to take advantage of these rich idiots and have them all murdered so that i can rule things my 1.00

00:30:39.680 way let's see i'll check out selling here you asked no he was impoverished yeah stalin there you go 1.00

00:30:50.080 that makes sense because he was a tough mofo like right he also wasn't like motivated by communist 0.70

00:30:54.800 ideals either he was motivated by power and well killing the the rich burgundy people or whatever 0.85

00:31:02.480 the burgundy stalin kyle gorbachev but again he like worked his way up so that's not really hugo chavez

00:31:12.000 that's uh that's uh that's not a a great way to say so there were a couple but these are these are

00:31:20.320 more people who worked they're not ideological pioneers they were more famous leaders yeah yeah

00:31:27.600 this is uh yeah no i mean i i've noticed the trend i've really wondered about it that maybe this this

00:31:34.560 is this dovetails with the concept of luxury beliefs as well that especially in a in a pre-singularity

00:31:40.880 world socialism and communism is a luxury belief and it's not practical and only more resourced

00:31:47.600 people can have what what socialism and communism are is they're functionally a monopoly of the state

00:31:52.320 by one company yeah like that's what they always turn into decentralized that's why i often say that

00:31:58.880 extreme libertarianism and extreme communism are functionally the same belief system yeah because

00:32:04.240 both systems in is with and this is the thing what i'd say functionally the same neither of them

00:32:10.960 intends on this being the outcome but both of them lead to this outcome by decentralizing power too much

00:32:18.880 decentralized power in a systemic way you allow anyone who is willing to play counter to the system to

00:32:25.920 re-centralize power among themselves and so with extreme libertarianism you end up with one company

00:32:31.840 owning everything or maybe in a better case like three or four companies owning everything and then

00:32:36.640 in communism you end up with just one company owning everything i mean

00:32:42.800 what is a state that decides where things go like where food is distributed where housing is distributed

00:32:50.880 any different from a company factory town yeah right and you could say well the company factory town

00:32:57.200 at the end of the day yes it decides how you eat how you get your food it manages all that but at the

00:33:02.560 end it's exporting profits to the owners right and i'm like well communist systems functionally do the

00:33:09.200 thing for the leadership i mean look at the way you know they're living in north korea and you could say

00:33:13.840 well it's not supposed to do that and it's like it doesn't matter that it's not supposed to do that

00:33:18.000 the the person with the most power in the system basically even if they didn't want to abuse that power

00:33:24.560 they're forced to because the people under them with the next most power are going to want their

00:33:29.360 payoff they're going to be like where's my so you don't just need one person to be like perfectly

00:33:35.920 moral for a communist framework to work yeah you need an entire chain of leadership to be perfectly

00:33:40.800 moral and that's not realistic no outside of a world with ai if ai was managing that leadership

00:33:47.440 so it could work it could work well this was interesting thank you and i love you a lot

00:33:54.400 i gotta go take care of this all right love you so much i'm sorry you got a cry baby there he's gassy

00:34:00.320 he's a gassy giant and as you say like i think i do agree that i think communism and stuff like that

00:34:04.960 is going to come back to the left and i think one of the things are going to be surprised about a lot

00:34:08.400 of people on the right is we're like well i mean with ai it could work yeah i mean ai really is probably

00:34:13.280 going to take most jobs we should be looking at how we're going to capture things economically speaking

00:34:18.320 yeah all right i'm going to go help them fart i love you love you too i'll see you downstairs later

00:34:25.040 bye bye okay just go for it all right let's have a look here it's being weird for me sorry oh what am

00:34:35.280 i making you for dinner by the way oh we have one more night of that curry i was thinking maybe

00:34:38.960 some kind of your enchiladas are always really good if you make them with something like this

00:34:43.440 uh is okay if i do taquitos with mozzarella because we we only have american cheese and mozzarella left

00:34:47.920 we don't have any yeah that works but i you've got to cut what's in it into smaller pieces if you're

00:34:54.240 doing taquitos because it's pretty big chunks in this one okay then i i will i will finally chop it

00:35:00.720 hands in gloves yes you will put your hands in chain mail because i do not want another finger

00:35:06.960 coming off i am sorry simone that i am such a strict taskmaster as a husband thank you guys we're

00:35:12.640 good to go i'll i'll do it

00:35:17.920 no why does titan have to fight us

00:35:28.480 torsten she's trying to help your sister what do you torsten torsten no what do you think mommy is

00:35:36.480 doing how do you think that makes me feel buddy you're trying to trick us in what way you dressed

00:35:44.000 and warm for outside buddy oh why would you do this excuse me i don't think that's trying to trick

00:35:52.320 take a picture you look great buddy yeah you look very nice i want to swipe your hair to the side off

00:35:58.160 baby you're going to look like a deepness if you wear it

00:36:04.480 yes you do

00:36:07.120 torsten what is the trick that you think that we're playing on you

00:36:09.520 is putting evil socks on us and putting evil shirts on us but these are just regular shorts and socks

00:36:21.920 they're just regular socks that you need for like life torsen what the heck

00:36:27.120 What do you think?

Based Camp - October 17, 2025

Why Are Famous Communists Usually Rich Nepo Babies？

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