Why Are Violent Cultures More Gender Egalitarian？ (Spartans, Vikings, Scythians, Appalachian, etc.)
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In this episode, we discuss the first instance of capital punishment in our society, and the gender equality of the Viking culture, and why women were more gender equal than their male counterparts. Simone and I discuss the role of women in Viking culture and the role women played in it.
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hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be talking about
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despite the public perception to the contrary where people are like oh well women are the
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peaceful gender this will be the first instance of capital punishment in our society due to our
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awesomeness so we are forced to improvise we placed a boulder on that ledge you're gonna
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crush us with a boulder no stop interrupting the boulder falls onto a lever that will launch
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knives fine you were right the first time okay the boulder crushes you happy no just ignore them
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ignore them and therefore societies that are peaceful would be more pro-women and yet
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historically speaking we find the exact opposite trend the more and i will
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add a little note here successfully violent yeah casting shade already
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the more gender egalitarian that culture is likely to be in a historic context you're a young lady now
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you're gonna start wearing dresses paul folks would call me a sis and i had never realized this till
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today i was listening to some people talk and i just started thinking i was like you know what they
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were talking about spartans versus ass and they were like well spartans was actually generally
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gender more more equal by a significant degree and i was sort of thinking like wait oh my gosh
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every super violent culture i can think of from history was more gender equal than its neighbors
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and people are going to be thinking oh what about islam we'll get to that
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we'll get to that because you are not considering the context at which it rose nor its neighboring
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cultural groups within that context but uh let's start here with viking culture right north viking culture
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love the vikings all about the vikings you should be really proud of your wife at least
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i mean frøya dove into that pillaging 100 percent even took part in quite a lot of the
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gripping huh frøya forced all kinds of monks to let her write them and stuff
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i didn't really expect that i was totally blown away when i suddenly saw her on top of this monk
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moaning groaning of course i mean that's what you do in your pillage
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women were primarily responsible for managing the household and farm this involved running the
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farm while men were away on raids or trading expeditions they managed finances and household
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resources women's domestic authority was highly respected as evidenced by archaeological findings
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like the hasmari and praising a woman's skill for running the farm so farm of the day would have
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been the business right like it almost sounds like women were like listen just go off and play
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don't come back home until the sun is down i will just get a ton of money i'll just handle
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everything and then you go do you do you and maybe you get some treasure whatever you treat me you're
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like you do your little podcast let's just manage all our finances and businesses and you can say you
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run it sweetheart is it not a traditional relationship sword and shield malcolm sword and shield yeah we talk
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about this as a traditional relationship model in which one partner does something that is safe and
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meant to bring in a reliable income and the other partner makes big bets they had the ability to own
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land and property they had the right to initiate divorce proceedings they had the freedom to run a
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business and they had the opportunity to service clergy like this is very gender egalitarian oh gosh i
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thought you said service clergy as in you know do them something okay as clergy okay they could not
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vote or speak at assemblies i mean these people weren't animals they were prohibited from being
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chieftains or judges they could offer witness in legal proceedings and they were considered subject
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to their husbands after marriage generally speaking this seems fairly sane as a societal well i mean i think
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i think one of these situations is you have to actually look at how things worked functionally so
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it you may be subject to a partner technically but if you handle the farm and the finances and the
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household who really can get divorced at will i mean like oh it's a little clear like that there's
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some balance here i mean you have to give the men something because otherwise there's like apparently
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nothing yeah but i will say that they uh by the way great game if you want to experience this i
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should probably promote more games but vikings i want to say the game's name is viking expeditions
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and it's a good historical reenactment of what it would have been like to manage a viking raiding group
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it's actually one of my favorite games i've ever played and i played it through like three times
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wait is this the one where you marry people off you can marry people at the end of the game you
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can yeah there's this one game you were playing where you were like marrying off various generations
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and getting really strategic about it and i can't remember what no no that wasn't vikings you're
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thinking of oh gosh what game is that uh crusader kings that's it but vikings is an isometric turn
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based game and and they do a great job of depicting viking culture because i think a lot of people don't
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understand that these people who were going out and absolutely murder lesting the the people of
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the people of france the people of germany they did a very good job at spreading very quickly
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like the muslims did which we'll get to in a second but they were like a almost like a invasive species
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where they could just own the local species and the local species was dramatically less gender
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egalitarian than the vikings yeah the way i look at it is the vikings were sea peoples but successful
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because they actually just called them the vikings instead of sea peoples who never really got a name
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you know because they didn't do anything the vikings got shit done and you're descended from
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them by the way that's her her cultural ancestry one of the major ones sparta is another example
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sparta was dramatically more gender egalitarian still on my list of girls names i know it's kind
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of gimmicky but i think sparta is such a oh that's not bad actually i kind of like it it's a really
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pretty in athens women were basically treated as slaves like there's the famous speech where they're
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like well you know a woman who's lived a good life if you've never heard her talk exactly if
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you've never they were in the way back of the house you wouldn't a good woman you'd never hear
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from famous names of virtuous women were women who would be r-a-p-e-d and then kill themselves
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because obviously that was just so dishonorable for their husbands it was yeah athenian women
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not treated well yeah really treated poorly so in sparta girls received a formal education including
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literacy numeracy and physical training you would never have had that in athens by the way
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they you know and spartan young girls were in the same educational system if memory serves as boys
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until a certain age when the boys went yeah they participated in athletic activities like running
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wrestling and javelin throwing they had economic powers spartan women could own an inherent property
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they managed estates and finances while men were at war they married at around 18 to 20 years old
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which was much older compared to other greek women who married at like 12 to 16 i mean imagine
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in ancient times varying at 18 to 20 like that's well after you can start producing babies and that's
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because they were treated with respect they had more freedom of movement and dress often wearing
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shorter less restrictive clothing they were allowed to speak their minds and well known for their wit
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however limitations they could not vote or hold political office and their primary role was
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bearing and raising strong children for the state but so much so that they would sometimes choose
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a different male partner as we'll say the genetic material provider than their husband with their
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husband's consent yeah this was common as part if they thought another man could provide better
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children for the family they would do it that is taking a hit for the cause people i mean wow
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well these women were uh tough as nails and they were known for they were known for like talking
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back they were known actually they were known as so much better than athenian women even at raising
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kids that the highest class families in athens always had spartan nannies and yeah they were they were
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the og norland nannies well they yeah but not nor they were norland nannies and norland nannies were also
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like muscle amazonian women who were like witty and philosophers and not like just like well by norland
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nannies i mean the class signaling nanny like the the epitome of the best possible nanny you could get
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but obviously spartan nannies were way cooler and if you or i were rich and trying to signal we try to
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get a little spartan nanny but they don't exist anymore already with spartan we're seeing why the most
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martial cultures that were successful no that were successful did this it was because if you want to
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breed really successful male children in in terms of a martial environment you need their mothers to
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be in part chosen for the same things that you value in male children if you take the type of woman who
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you can talk to the way andrew tate talks to the woman that he is with the way that he treats the
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women he is with you are going to have weak children um and coming from and we'll get to this i come from
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one of the martial groups as well this is something that was always made clear to me if you marry a weak
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woman you'll have weak kids don't marry the type of woman that you can speak down about and expect no
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reprisal um okay next iroquois confederacy a uniquely violent cultural group despite what people think
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the iroquois are the oh gosh i'm never going to be able to pronounce this hodonoski confederacy
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had a matrilineal society where clan mothers chose the male chiefs and could remove them from office
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women had a voice in the decision-making processes including matters wait wait hold on hold on is this
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where longhouse came from yeah oh no longhouse is also viking i know but i'm just trying to figure
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out like where it came from in terms of matriarchies here i guess this is just a thing women like long
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houses i love it so longhouse if you don't know it's a term that was popularized by a bronze age
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pervert i really respect the thinker but he is just so wrong on like women taking control of society
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and that being a bad thing the bad thing is as women from bureaucratic cultures and non-martial
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cultures took control of society not all women are bad when a cultural group is intergenerationally
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oh my gosh she went hard on your arm there people who are watching the podcast
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that was that drug blood she is teething like crazy and she's just two little tooths but they're sharp
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she wins oh my gosh okay so women controlled agricultural lands and resources they're responsible
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for farming and food distribution society was matrilineal with descendant and property based
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through the mother's line women lived in long houses it was extended families women played
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important roles in religious ceremonies and spiritual practices some creation stories feature prominent
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female figures and then limitations while influential women generally did not serve as warriors or hunters
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certain leadership roles like chieftains were typically held by men though chosen by women
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interesting so the women chose that almost reminds me of that dallas-based poly group that we
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randomly found that was just this matriarchy where they would select the men it was structured very
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different from other poly groups where the women there was a group of like attractive available women who
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basically ran everything and they would choose which men were at the top but it was very clear that the
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women had the end choice yeah reminds me of that interesting okay next culture the sissians
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this is a nomadic warrior culture of the eurasian steppes where some sissian women participated in
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warfare hunting alongside men by the way i forgot about that was a viking some women participated in viking
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war we don't know how many it's been questioned but there was definitely some archaeological evidence
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suggests about 20 percent of sissian women were buried with weapons so yeah a lot participated women likely
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had equal status was men due to nomadic lifestyle they could own property and had more freedom of
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movement than the neighboring cultural groups and some historical accounts mention sissian queens and
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female rulers women may have held positions of religious and spiritual importance and they were involved in
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animal husbandry crafts possibly trade they were skilled at horseback riding and the nomadic way of
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life now we're going to talk about a group that is a subgroup of the sissians called the sarmatians so
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sarmatian women were renowned for their participation in warfare hunting setting them apart from contemporary
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societies greek sources including hippocrates and herodotus reported that women took part in military
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activities archaeological evidence supports these claims a significant percentage of excavated military burials
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containing armed women the female warrior graves often occupied essential positions and contained rich
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burial goods indicating high status social status and roles they participated in hunting and horseback
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riding along men women were involved in warfare and were the same closing as men some historical
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accounts mentioned queens and female rulers according to greek sources girls had the right best cauterized to
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prevent its development though this claim lacks archaeological evidence by the way the reason they would do this in
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yeah no for yeah well what if you were a lefty well they made a mistake then
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it's really not like i could see that definitely if having no totally that totally makes sense amazon comes
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from yeah yeah herodotus claimed that women could not marry until they had killed a man in battle
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i believe that though i mean it would it would select for it would select for
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yeah a tougher in general genetic stock and actually i was just going through some research this afternoon
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that indicated that it looks like there's more i'm going to butcher this because i don't remember the exact
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terms but there's more negative selection than there is this other version of selection where people select for
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multiple traits that are good it's more just we weed out bad traits it's more like the way that
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genes evolve is more oriented around people not being able to reproduce than it is around people
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selecting for various traits that work well in different situations we'll see but during late
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period artificial skull deformation became common practice for both sexes oh that's boring economic
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contributors they were likely to be involved in animal husbandry craft and possibly trade women were skilled at
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horseback riding as essential for the nomadic way of life and their participation in hunting and warfare
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suggests they contributed substantially to the community's survival and success okay now before i go
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to muslims i'll talk about backwoods americans because that's my cultural group in albi and seed
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they're called backwoods so my cultural group is a merger of the puritans and the backwoods americans
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also sometimes referred to as the scots irish which is kind of a weird misnomer but anyway yes
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um and if you read albi and seed this is backwoods slash puritan cultural group if you read the
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american nation this is the greater appalachian region that's what the black people became called
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in the puritans anyway the backwoods people which is a predominant i mean dallas is often called the
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capital of the greater appalachian cultural region and my family has been there for seven generations
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at both sides of my family is often seen as most marshal of the american groups and the most
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violent of the american groups you can see our other episodes on this topic just look up our like
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what american nations episodes where we have like a map or something or the ones on greater
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appalachian cultural group yeah i don't want to go because you think that the um sort of southern
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when you look at especially um some tendencies of the cavalier group that that descended from
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second sons of nobility essentially in in the colonies yeah you would expect them to be super
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violent but i think part of it was that they really like went for weak docile women yeah and that
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differentiation really led to a lot of docility on part of like on the part of both and this is how
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they became manor obsessed dandy yeah i mean the perspective of my people i'm like i i beat these
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southern people like my married mind was one of these and it's actually really clear when i look
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at the people who the different people in my family married what cultural group they came from
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and he is quite a dandy okay sorry yeah don't name names sorry i just was like i thought you were
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talking about like you would agree that he's a bit of a dandy i am gilbert fontaine de la torre d'artrive
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dale gribble and i should note here that despite being dandy very cool guy who did a very good job
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raising his kids which is really the only thing that functionally i judge a person on at the end of
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the day he's obsessed with manners in good form and everything like that because intergenerationally
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when you're in one of these cultural groups who selects for meek women as they did you end up
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with men who are obsessed with everything i must stand up whenever a woman leaves the table i'm not
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saying you shouldn't but like also come on like you don't need to follow the manners all the time
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like that kind of signals you out as being a bit of a bitch right a bitch to the system but a bitch
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nonetheless and people can be like no manners are i do think manners are valuable right i'm not an
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anti-manners person but when you become fastidious about it i think that the point is when manners
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cease to be functional that's when you've lost the plot but i'm all about manners do not do not step on
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my manners malcolm there will be there will be problems oh you love that i'm so bad at following
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all this stuff you're so freaking terrible at following manners but i try i try and i think
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that that's what you do not try you do not even deign to try but nice uh but the point the point
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being is that people often think of them but they actually and if you look at the original cultural
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groups of america or any of the 11 tribes that come that they that are thought of as like the american
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tribes the the greater appalachian region or the backwoods people always had the most gender
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egalitarian treatment specifically the women in these cultures did just a lot more of the work
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and were often working alongside men specifically they did farming and tending to livestock they did
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the production and selling of crabs they did the preserving of food they did midwifery and folk
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medicine and they often founded and ran schools in the region when i asked an ai about this
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it said that they had less rigid gender hierarchies in the puritan new england and more economic
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opportunities for women than the plantation culture of the tidewater south and we go into the modern
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iteration of this cultural group's view of the ideal women in the tomboy apocalypse video but needless
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to say the quote unquote and a lot of people get this wrong they think of it as a southern stereotype
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when it's really not a southern stereotype of women in the deep south women were seen as well much more
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diminutive they had a very classic role sort of a barbie role almost but in this cultural group this
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is where you get the country song woman i guess i would say you know the mud wrestling girl who
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goes noodlin we've had the those videos or the what is her name sanny may from beverly hills hillbillies
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whoop them fine square and i'll do it again uh you mom you're getting too big to wrestle with boys
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i'm as big as jethro big that way i mean uh growed up you're a young lady now you gotta start wearing
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dresses paul folks would call me a sis by the time granny come to help out you was too wild a team
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by thunder you could out run out climb out fight and out shoot every boy in them hills
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i know you don't like it when i say that but you like it when the young fellas around here come in
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only they'll probably be using words fancy words i won't even understand but ellie me
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ain't nobody can ever tell you how pretty you really are simply
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she let me see her in a skirt once i bow flatlined and i bet everyone she knows is gonna doubt that line
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cause we know she ain't about to dress with the diamonds and pbs's ain't none of that shit impressive
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it's oppressive and worse deceptive at best makes her feel like a marionette
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got a lot of people trying to hop up on my new wave everybody's celebrating tomboy tuesday
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everybody's celebrating tomboy tuesday and it's like why when you have the and i'm not gonna go
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too deep into the eye gouging or the the fights or the binding out we've gone into this so much no
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thank you no it's it's it's ultra violence of a degree that i think they were ultra violent but at
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the same time yes their women were definitely they were out there slaughtering animals they were out
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there in rough and tumble play they were they were very self-reliant they also had less restrictive
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dress they were seen as quite scandalous with the skirts that they wore which were very short at the
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time so like the quakers are like oh yeah yeah well because they didn't wear for the time they were
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the equivalent of for the time they wore the equivalent of mini skirts which was just horrifying
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for people oh yeah yeah and and and then we're gonna get to the final thing which many people
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think might disprove this but it's actually sort of the thing that proves the rule right which is
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people will say okay okay okay but muslims were a violent cultural group that experienced great
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success during a period but they're so mean to women right they treat women so poorly that's just what i
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was thinking about though is the violence at first when malcolm and i were having this conversation
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offline i was like but what about the muslims because when i think about violent cultures
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i think about muslims then i realized just as we were talking all of the instances i've read about
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muslim violence and heard about muslim violence is explicitly and specifically violence against women
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which is super super different from violence culturally because think about all the other forms
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of violence violence as a martial group today are basically clown world i'm sorry if you look at
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the the the um one of my favorite things in our in our discord we were talking about like muslim stuff
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and i like muslims i like some muslims i think that muslim culture can be revived i think there was a period
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when it was really great but they were like we should create an alliance between the christians and the
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muslims against the jews like they can't do anything against the x mini million of us and i was like well i mean
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history would beg to differ just look at the yon kapoor wars when they were attacked on all sides by groups that
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had more funding every one of the individual players had more funding with attacking them by surprise had
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better technology than a larger army it was like five at once and they stomped them and the question was is
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why why did they suck so much when historically islam was able to conquer a larger territory than the
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romans ever did one of the largest empires in human history why did modern islam become so weak when
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compared to historic islam and i actually think a part of this is downstream from andrew tate's sort of
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nonsense which is that they became anti-women they became pro-weak women and people are like well
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wasn't in muhammad's periods weren't they pro-weak women well let's talk about that if you contrast
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them with the neighboring cultural groups there was a prohibition on female infanticide a religious
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prohibition on this which was really big for the region at the time that's that's that's quite a big
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ask of people in a group like that perhaps the most significant achievement of early islam regarding
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women's rights was the strict prohibition of female infanticide the practice of killing baby girls was
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commonplace in the middle east north africa and india at the time reflecting deep-seated
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misogyny in these societies that valued male laborers and valued girls less but you also had
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property lights early islam granted women control over their own property especially their dowries
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and inheritance while women's inheritance was set at half the rate of men's this was still a
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significant improvement compared to many of the neighboring societies where women had no
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inheritance rights at all half inheritance for women was astronomical oh yeah whereas in so many
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other cultures women were just literally the inheritance they were property yes islam enforced the
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concept of consent in marriage and prohibited marriage by kidnapping huge in the region at the time
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divorce while difficult for women to obtain was more accessible under early islamic law than any other
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faith at the time now limitations and changes um women were still limited to one husband while men could
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have up to four wives men were allowed to have sexual relations with enslaved women so you couldn't
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have sex with women's legal testimony was given less weight than men's however there was also an
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evolution in a negative evolution of gender roles this is really interesting women were encouraged to pray
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at home rather than in public over time veiling and seclusion became standard practices removing women
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from public lives this was not the case in early as long all of this veiled women stuff that's modern
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stuff that's not what muhammad taught all of this me never leave the house never no no no early islamic
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women wore next to warriors they were public facing they were uncovered they were and you read about muhammad's
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wives they were in many ways equal to the prophet well also wasn't his first wife really his benefactor
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i mean she bankrolled wife was an older woman who paid him he kind of married a cougar i'm just saying
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you're just saying history was this guy who married a wealthy older woman that he was trying to like
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probably he never said anything bad about this point no no no if you're like oh he married a cougar
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but she was his uh-uh this woman owned muhammad muhammad was oh yes please ma'am oh yes whatever
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you want oh that was muhammad okay when muhammad met this woman when he married her she was his employer
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this was his boss his dummy mommy who he married not only that but for the 25 years of their marriage and
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they were married until she died he didn't take any other wives this multiple wives stuff it didn't
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start until after dummy mommy left the scene muhammad was not like i'm a big tough andrew tate guy
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maybe later in his wife but not with his first wife and i think that this is part of where the strengths
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of early islam came from and then the segregation of women in prayer and public spaces became more
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common segregation of women in prayer is not muhammad era islam these women being like a different class
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of citizen everything like that that is so wait how how are people justifying this then since it's so
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built it seems to share a law they're just not looking at history they're so you might think
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like but but then why do so many of these islamic groups have women you know covering their entire
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bodies and everything like that look it's it's not in the quran the quran says that women need to cover
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their ornaments which i'm it's pretty obvious what is meant by that and uh that the wives of muhammad
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need to wear veils but nobody else this is a corruption of the quranic text and i think that
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it has led to a weakness among the islamic people well i mean a weakness plain to see when you compare
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the the modern muslim countries economic conditions and military conditions with their ancestors if you
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look at the quran and you look at modern strict muslim populations today it appears to me that many
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of these populations are arrogantly and i would go so far as to say sacrilegiously attempting to
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imitate what was expected of muhammad's wives and only his wives and daughters in all women
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specifically these women covered themselves fully they would only talk to men behind like veils that
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sort of stuff and that's where i think these ideas are coming from but it was very clear this was
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just a status that was for muhammad's wives and there was different statuses of
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dress expected of different women so when for example a slave girl would dress too modestly by
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some of the muhammad's successors she would be hit because they'd say are you trying to dress like a
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free woman this comes from majmu al-fatwa and so i think that we can see that you are not supposed to
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even within the early islamic culture attempt to mimic the propriety of your betters and so
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it would be right as a reading to say that people who do this are being sacrilegious and trying to
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act as if their wives and daughters are muhammad's wives and daughters and to get an idea of just how
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masculinized women were in early islamic society you can consider characters like nasayaba bent kab
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who is considered one of the most prominent female warriors in early islamic history at the battle of
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uhud in 625 ce nasabaya fought to defend prophet muhammad wielding a sword and a bow the prophet praised
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her bravery saying wherever i turned to the left or to the right i saw her fighting for me
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and then you have kwal bent al azar who played a major role in the muslim conquest of the levant in
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the 7th century kwal fought alongside her brother dahira in many battles including the battle of
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yermak uh against the byzantine empire in 636 ce she is described as one of the greatest female soldiers
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in history look it islam has neutered itself it castrated itself through its treatment of its own
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women because the jews women serve a different role than men in society but they were not treated in the
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same way that they are within the islamic empire you know you still want a powerful woman to be your
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wife you still want an opinionated woman to be your wife and this is like a classic thing with
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jewish women is the woman who who talks back and is snarky and is actually technically the lead of the
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family what about you your thoughts on all this i don't i think that's that's a classic trope in many
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in many cultures not just jewish culture i think it's much more in jewish culture than other cultures
00:32:08.640
i don't know it's it's like if you watch the my big fat greek wedding cultures which are just
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parodies of greek culture that's a very big trope in all of the movies okay here i need to have the
00:32:18.880
stranger's candy lines that greeks are just jews but poor i am so sad but i was unable to find a
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clip of it it's from season two episode 10 a price too high from riches and the line is
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greeks are just jews without money yeah i mean hey greeks romans just wanted to be greeks for their
00:32:37.280
entire existence so just calm down well i mean if you see if you see this like greeks are just jews
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but poor yeah in another episode i was saying that like no other culture gets to say that they were
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like the founding culture of civilization like i can claim that my ancestors were conquered by
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civilization and when i study the greats of history i'm not studying my own ancestor
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yeah greeks can claim this and jews can claim this those are the only two cultural groups where they
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unfortunately can't say well yeah but i was cultured and civilized by another civilization
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sorry the chinese the chinese hold on get to have their own canon and everything they were
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they were foundational but they were isolated so i guess it doesn't matter as much because
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these were spanked by the west what are you talking about the opium wars the the boxer rebellion
00:33:28.080
they're gonna get us back for you think they're getting us back with tick tock
00:33:34.800
the reverse opium wars have come on the second opium wars right now are we gonna are we gonna
00:33:41.040
ban tick tock and then china's gonna no we just need to we need to regard there was a great tweet
00:33:47.440
about this where someone was like we just need to regard periods of social media addiction is like
00:33:52.000
sorry she's like hungry as your time in the opium den and that's it well any final thoughts from you
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and they want to see more of you talking so say something interesting okay i'll get mine first
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sorry i can't i i can't speak over her so i have to meet myself so my general read of why this is the
00:34:12.000
case is one you're just not gonna have powerful martial cultures and i think simone mentioned this was the
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the deep south in the u.s and why that culture pussified so quickly into little dandies is they
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if you if you that's half your genes like when andrew tate chooses these weak women as his wives
00:34:30.880
and he's like oh i'm gonna have like 30 wives and i can i wouldn't say they're weak but i would
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say that they're subservient he's screwing his own genetic inheritance over yeah or i guess building
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little subservient boys who are gonna be like their moms half and you do this intergenerational
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if you are selecting for performative masculinity in men and subservience in women well and that's a
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key point i think the other key point here is performative masculinity is preening it is inherently
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feminine and he is very preening he really is obsessed with this image and what people think of him
00:35:06.640
he doesn't you know and i and i think that you're absolutely right about that and intergenerationally
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this breeds at least from a martial perspective weakness yeah i think that the key difference too
00:35:20.640
is is also just is your culture pervasive in its masculinity or is it pervasive in its femininity
00:35:28.800
and when it comes to men pulling rank on women what is that that's bureaucracy and that's feminine that's
00:35:34.400
the long house yeah you have to listen to me because you are x instead of you have to listen
00:35:39.920
to me because you respect me yeah that's inherently feminine i'm sorry if you're gonna pull rank instead
00:35:44.640
of just show your dominance then you are being feminine absolutely and i think that a lot of men
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today where they're like oh we got to get back to x we got to get back to y even bronze age pervert to an
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extent they are breeding this weakness into our culture and people ask me why do you not name your daughters
00:36:04.960
feminine names right i'm like well you can see this in the research you know women with feminine names
00:36:11.120
they go into stem degrees less they earn less money they have less good mental health but also femininity
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broadly the way any society relates to femininity i think it needs to be stamped out of the concept
00:36:22.560
it's just toxic we need to get rid of femininity and build a role for women that is equivalent to this
00:36:33.440
this viking oh do you have a little octavian no he came in with this thing on his head and indy's
00:36:41.600
he's just like my world is over she's terrified she's absolutely terrified
00:36:56.480
it's your brother look it's your brother it's your brother it's your brother it's your brother okay she
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yeah it's fine i have a firefighter hat that's a firefighter hat yeah i'm running
00:37:10.720
i'll just put him on my lap i'm running and i'm done okay go show daddy go show
00:37:14.720
daddy go show daddy in a while crocodile oh look you're good you're good buddy oh my god indy saw
00:37:25.520
him and was like red alert this is not okay the first time one of our kids saw me it was my hair
00:37:32.480
wet and they were wet and they were like oh my god she's a monster okay okay we gotta ask you some
00:37:37.920
questions about women do you think having a strong wife or a weak wife is better a strong wife do you
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think having a wife who can fight is better or a wife who can't fight i feel but ah do you want a wife
00:37:55.280
who can punch and kick and run yeah where are you gonna find a wife like that on a battlefield yeah
00:38:07.760
and tell me about your hat here it's a firefighter hat can you tell people to like and subscribe like
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and scribe yeah but really mean like what do you what why do you want them to like and subscribe
00:38:21.040
because through our video oh octavian i love you so much let me do this so i just did okay i'm gonna
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do a video that i did at school yesterday okay show me the video
00:38:40.400
three little dots came out to play over the hill and fall away mother dog called
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one little duck came water went back this is a horror story wait are these ducks dying
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mother dog caught crack crack crack crack no little dust came water went back wait wait wait
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why did the ducks stop coming did they die no were they eaten no let me show you when they
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i want the mother dog caught mother dog caught crack crack crack crack
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three little ducks came right away back oh so they were hiding you really had me scared there buddy
00:39:52.960
wow that was a cliffhanger but okay here's my question for you wouldn't little ducks be delicious
00:39:58.800
yeah yummy yummy yummy yummy do you think maybe they could be a nugget no let me do the song one more
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time and then we'll get to freeze no no no i need to know about these ducks would you eat a baby duck if
00:40:17.120
you could fry one if you could fry one up yeah what would it turn into if you fried it up
00:40:25.520
a hat no it's a nugget he's still on llm mode here
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say like it's a scribe say like it's a scribe that's the only way to escape
00:40:41.680
are you gonna say it yes you gotta scribe folks save you
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i did go i love you there we go we love you octavian
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like that scribe oh thanks buddy i like that cliffhanger i didn't know i thought they had
00:41:08.960
died i was deeply concerned yeah that was a scary song
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all right would you mind getting the kids i'll get dinner started
00:41:19.920
no problem i'm gonna make i have these no you're not we need to reheat my dinner from the last few
00:41:25.680
days so we're gonna make two servings of it a fried rice and this but they gave me a lot this
00:41:30.400
time so we'll be able to stretch it over two nights nice love it when they do that okay
00:41:34.720
fried rice with your stir-fried vegetables okay i'm on it
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oh she does oh she does when she sees your face she goes
00:41:55.840
oh she's teething so much poor thing but she's still so happy
00:42:16.880
all right i'm trying to think of like what we can do for like early clips what would you do for
00:42:21.760
early clips of this one women and violence i'm starting out by thinking of that rick and
00:42:25.680
morty episode where there was this like women-led culture but they were like like how hi how are
00:42:32.080
you feeling well that's a good one yeah but i'm trying to think about how to work that into violence
00:42:36.960
like i i think that there's this unique bifurcation or or spectrum between super women-centric
00:42:46.240
society and superman-centric society and then this happy medium but apparently it's a super violent
00:42:51.920
happy medium okay okay i'll i'll get started here how oh my god what are you doing to me
00:43:00.640
your talents are you a violent woman she is she's a very violent woman
00:43:05.840
she had a little smile after doing that she's freaking biting me now
00:43:09.280
what is she doing she's gonna take you down simone she's gnawing on me
00:43:19.360
all right i'll get started before she eats your whole hand ow
00:43:24.720
girl it's like pulling my hand closer she's just gnawing it off