Based Camp - October 17, 2024


Why DEI Hires Keep Getting Caught for Plagiarism (& the Kamala Harris Plagiarism Controversy)


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Kamala Harris plagiarized a student's writing on a test, which got her into hot water with the Department of Education. What does this have to do with race and ethnicity? And why is this a problem?

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00:00:00.000 Hello everyone, I'm excited to be here with you today!
00:00:03.400 Recently, Kamala pulled a bit of a Mr. Bean 0.96
00:00:07.820 in terms of trying to copy the test scores
00:00:10.300 from somebody else, a bit of plagiarization.
00:00:18.640 We are going to go over this, but also a trend I have noticed
00:00:22.320 that all of these DEI individuals,
00:00:25.380 these individuals who are in these positions
00:00:27.860 of unearned power and authority
00:00:31.200 due to their gender and ethnic background,
00:00:34.540 plagiarization scandals just seem to be happening
00:00:37.300 over and over and over again at a really high rate.
00:00:41.120 So one, I want to document the phenomenon,
00:00:43.820 and then I want to explore why the phenomenon
00:00:46.220 might be happening while also exploring the specific case
00:00:50.140 that happened with Kamala Harris. 0.99
00:00:52.800 And before I go into all of this,
00:00:55.120 as somebody who has their background in the sciences,
00:00:57.860 if you are not a trained academic,
00:01:01.200 it might be like, plagiarization, what's the big deal there?
00:01:05.540 In the sciences, historically speaking,
00:01:09.300 it would be worse for your career to plagiarize something
00:01:14.540 than to grape someone.
00:01:16.540 Come here, kids! I'm going to tie you in the radiator and grape me up! 1.00
00:01:21.340 Okay! It was, like, bore into me when I was studying in the sciences.
00:01:26.080 It is better to, like, in a testing environment, walk over,
00:01:30.780 yank someone's test from their hands, and put it in the box,
00:01:33.780 after scribbling out their name and writing your own,
00:01:36.680 than it is to attempt to plagiarize.
00:01:39.220 And then, there are, even within that, there's different categories of plagiarization,
00:01:43.760 with the very highest bad category of plagiarization being plagiarization from Wikipedia. 0.95
00:01:48.820 Because that's seen both plagiarizing and plagiarizing like an idiot from the most obvious source.
00:01:54.340 It's originally called the Madison Square Garden Center. 0.92
00:01:56.940 Is that from Wikipedia?
00:01:58.340 No.
00:02:01.020 I just used it as a starting point to get a general idea,
00:02:03.380 and then I went to scholarly sources.
00:02:04.660 Show me your browser history!
00:02:06.580 Yeah, for unrelated reasons, I would actually prefer not to do that.
00:02:09.380 Yeah, with, like, the lowest form of offense being auto-plagiarization,
00:02:12.820 which, after being taught that in college, I was like, wait.
00:02:15.700 Yeah, auto-plagiarization can get you kicked out of school,
00:02:18.420 but it's unlikely to, well, that could end on your career.
00:02:21.060 Sorry, people might not know what auto-plagiarization is.
00:02:24.020 Because apparently people don't care about cheating anymore.
00:02:26.740 Yeah, people basically stop.
00:02:28.580 Well, when they realize that the rules might also apply to black women. 1.00
00:02:31.860 Sorry, I don't mean to be too offensive there, but that's basically what happened.
00:02:35.700 They're like, oh, we've got this protected class.
00:02:37.300 And sorry, when I say black women, I mean black women who progressives consider real black women,
00:02:41.860 not conservative black women. 0.99
00:02:43.380 The rules still apply to them because they don't have their black card anymore. 0.99
00:02:46.820 As Biden said, if you don't vote for us, you ain't black. 0.94
00:02:50.100 So I'm not saying black women as in women whose skin color is black.
00:02:55.380 I'm saying black women TM, you know, the ones who agree with all of the mainstream progressive opinions.
00:03:01.940 I realized I forgot to describe what auto-plagiarization is.
00:03:04.820 Auto-plagiarization is when you plagiarize yourself.
00:03:07.780 So an example of where someone I knew got in trouble for this is they had written a fan fiction
00:03:12.660 and they had posted it on a fan fiction website.
00:03:15.220 And then later they took parts of it and incorporated it into a story that they were publishing was in a college context.
00:03:21.940 And the college plagiarism checker found their own fan fiction and said, look, you plagiarized from this.
00:03:27.220 And proving that they had written it did nothing to help their case that they had plagiarized.
00:03:32.820 And it was counted by the school rules as an official plagiarism.
00:03:36.820 And it's wild to me that, you know, historically, if you were white, you could get kicked out of school,
00:03:42.740 you know, college, have your entire life ruined over this.
00:03:45.700 And yet, you know, when you aren't, it's considered hardly an issue at all.
00:03:52.180 And I think the reason why people aren't freaking out about this is everybody knows.
00:03:55.700 Everybody knows it's not a real thing.
00:03:57.460 Like, that's why they're like, oh, it wasn't some major violation,
00:03:59.780 because we all knew that if you look like Kamala Harris, you're allowed to do this.
00:04:04.420 And if you're like, oh, but what about Trump's felony conviction?
00:04:09.020 The problem is, is that actually fortifies the point I'm making here rather than undermines it.
00:04:14.480 The people who view Trump's felony conviction as a strike on him versus further edifying him in the eyes of the masses,
00:04:22.000 I think are people who have intentionally not engaged with information around the case.
00:04:27.160 Just so you know, a bit of background here.
00:04:29.720 The case was around falsifying business records, which is a misdemeanor in New York.
00:04:36.500 And yet, novel legal theory was applied to make it a felony,
00:04:39.940 where they tried to argue that, because it could be made a felony of falsifying business records was done to cover up another crime.
00:04:46.820 Except it wasn't done very clearly to cover up another crime.
00:04:49.600 And they just basically made up, without specifying what that other crime was,
00:04:53.960 that it was being done to cover up another crime.
00:04:57.780 By the way, if you're wondering, oh, well, I mean, he did falsify business records then, didn't he?
00:05:02.520 Well, even that's a little vague.
00:05:04.480 So, the case was specifically in regards to Michael Cohen paying $130,000 in hush money to Stormy Daniels in a series of monthly checks.
00:05:14.960 And Michael Cohen had organized this so Trump would pay him legal fees,
00:05:19.520 and then he would take those legal fees and pay Stormy Daniels.
00:05:23.100 But he had told Trump, like, so imagine this is you.
00:05:27.500 Your lawyer tells you, oh, this is the legal way to do a payment to keep somebody quiet.
00:05:32.580 And you go along with it, and then later that person turns on you and all of a sudden says, oh, this isn't a legal way to do it.
00:05:38.700 It's not like this was Trump's idea or something like that.
00:05:41.360 He was just doing what his lawyer told him to.
00:05:43.780 And more than that, what do you even expect him to do?
00:05:47.580 Like, write down hush money to prostitute in his legal documentation. 0.72
00:05:54.160 And if you're like, well, I mean, this is all downstream of Trump's own sexual impropriety. 0.91
00:05:59.480 Well, here's the problem.
00:06:01.140 You then could be like, Kamala Harris is a symbol of virtue.
00:06:05.980 And it's like, well, not really.
00:06:07.520 If you look at her first major job, it was when she, a 20-year-old, was sleeping with a 60-year-old who got her that job and has admitted on record that the fact that they were dating influenced him, giving her these positions, which allowed her to get her first major prosecutor job.
00:06:26.300 But again, this is a great example.
00:06:27.880 You know, even if you do something that's not a felony, if you look like Trump and are Republican, then it's a felony. 0.92
00:06:35.160 And it is just a ridiculous amount of bigotry and double standards at this point.
00:06:39.940 By the way, you know that the Harvard woman who used to be, like, had a former president of Harvard and who was caught in all this plagiarism, you know she still has a tenure at Harvard and is still a professor there.
00:06:49.980 Oh, good for her, I guess. 0.87
00:06:53.120 The point being is that there's really no pushback on this stuff in a mainstream sense.
00:06:57.180 While Jordan Peterson loses, loses not just his ability to be a professor, but even his ability to practice medicine because he is center right.
00:07:08.620 Yeah, he didn't plagiarize anything, to be clear.
00:07:10.940 To my knowledge, he's not accused of any academic wrongdoing, just being a conservative.
00:07:17.660 By the way, before we go into this Kamala Harris stuff, we made this Kamala Harris ad that I wish the mainstream party would use.
00:07:24.200 And you get to edit it, Simone, if you want me to use an edited version, but I created a version.
00:07:28.700 And it's just Kamala's face laughing in the background.
00:07:31.540 And in the foreground, it says, remember when you could afford food.
00:07:34.800 And I think that that is one of the things that the Trump campaign isn't hitting hard enough is how bad the inflation crisis is right now and how bad the cost of living crisis is right now.
00:07:45.760 Because it is nightmarish.
00:07:47.160 And if we have four more years of this, it's not going to be a problem for your family.
00:07:51.960 It might be an existential risk to your family.
00:07:54.100 For those of you who live outside the U.S., by the way, I've discovered this new genre of YouTube video that I find to be really entertaining,
00:08:01.640 where people from the EU go shopping at grocery stores in the U.S. and freak out about how much everything costs.
00:08:09.640 Just FYI.
00:08:11.100 My reaction to the bill after my first time shopping at an organic store in America.
00:08:16.820 Do I just put this in here?
00:08:20.660 Feels like I'm playing Animal Crossing.
00:08:22.560 Check out the juice section.
00:08:23.860 This is a sugar-free lemonade made from real lemons.
00:08:28.340 5% of it made from real lemons.
00:08:30.600 $4?
00:08:32.140 I'm totally okay with this.
00:08:33.680 This is like, fine.
00:08:35.100 Why is this lettuce $3?
00:08:37.860 I don't know if you know about this, but I just love this as a genre.
00:08:41.340 Because I'm both obsessed with budgeting, but I'm also obsessed with grocery stores.
00:08:46.420 So combine two of my favorite things, plus cultural commentary, I mean, I can't stop.
00:08:53.060 All right.
00:08:54.000 Oh, by the way, a really crazy thing in terms of progressives covering this up.
00:08:57.880 You today went through the entire Drudge Report.
00:09:00.280 This is the day after this, when we're filming this, dropped.
00:09:02.540 The Drudge Report is a popular news headline consolidator website in the U.S.
00:09:10.420 Not a single mention anywhere that this has happened. 0.99
00:09:14.920 Yeah, just about how Trump is unhinged and a criminal and terrible. 0.69
00:09:20.080 Before I go further, I should probably, people will be like, Kamala Harris isn't a DEI candidate. 0.73
00:09:25.600 Didn't Trump get in trouble for saying that?
00:09:27.620 And it's like, bro, she didn't even run for office.
00:09:30.780 She hasn't won a single major election in her entire life.
00:09:34.880 She, in the Democratic primaries last time, didn't make it far at all and was very unpopular.
00:09:42.860 She didn't have to run for the primaries this time.
00:09:45.560 She should have.
00:09:46.520 Even Black Lives Matter asked for her to actually stand for election, likely because they know her actual history on crime and black incarceration.
00:09:55.020 But it's shocking to me.
00:09:57.380 It's shocking to me that anyone would suggest that she is not a DEI candidate.
00:10:02.000 Everyone knows the reason why she, if a white guy was randomly appointed to be the Democratic candidate, do you think that they would be able to hold that without having to run?
00:10:11.180 Of course not.
00:10:13.760 And then people can be like, oh, but she's, no, she was vice president for four years.
00:10:19.220 Doesn't that qualify her for the position? 1.00
00:10:21.380 And it's like, okay, one of two categories.
00:10:24.220 You can either go with what she's saying, which is that she's had literally nothing to do with anything that's happened for the past four years because she doesn't want to associate with it.
00:10:33.160 But also that she would not do anything differently, which is something she said in recent interviews.
00:10:37.380 Yeah, but she's all like, oh, I'm going to change everything day one.
00:10:39.780 She's not saying what she's going to change, but I'm going to change everything, all the day one stuff I'm going to change.
00:10:42.900 It's like, you're in office now, supposedly.
00:10:45.600 Like, what's all this experience you have if you're not doing anything, right?
00:10:49.800 So either she's done literally nothing for the past four years, A, or B, she's completely responsible for the situation we're in right now.
00:10:57.400 And if you're voting for her, you're voting for more of this.
00:11:01.360 So either way, DEI candidate, okay?
00:11:04.980 So the Kamala Harris plagiarism controversy centered around allegations made about her 2009 book,
00:11:09.320 Smart on Crime, A Career Prosecutor's Plan to Make Us Safer.
00:11:14.520 You, my goodness.
00:11:16.180 Here's a comprehensive overview of the situation.
00:11:18.120 And she co-authored it with Joan O.C. Hamilton.
00:11:21.280 Conservative activist Christopher Rufo and Austrian plagiarism hunter Dr. Stefan Weber have accused Vice President Kamala Harris of plagiarizing significant portions of her book.
00:11:31.560 The main points of the allegations include at least 12 sections of the book are claimed to contain, well, not claimed to contain, shown uncontrovertibly to contain plagiarized content.
00:11:40.200 I'll put something on screen here of, like, highlighted, highlighted.
00:11:42.500 It's very clearly copy and pasted.
00:11:44.560 Whoever reportedly found 27 cases of plagiarism in the book.
00:11:49.460 Sources plagiarized include Wikipedia, wire services, press releases, and reports.
00:11:54.620 Specific examples, a section apparently lifted verbatim from a press release by John Jay College of Criminal Justice.
00:12:01.720 Content copied from an NBC news report on high school graduation rates without proper attribution.
00:12:07.260 Text allegedly taken directly from Wikipedia, including a factual error present on Wikipedia at the time.
00:12:13.420 And material supposedly copied from Bureau of Justice Assistant's report on crime statistics for West Palm Beach.
00:12:20.360 And what's so shocking to me here is this was a book on catching crime, and she's committing crime while writing a book on catching crime.
00:12:31.040 It's very much like the deep state gets to do whatever it wants and isn't subject to rules, and our job is just to control and incarcerate you. 0.99
00:12:40.580 Our job is to mind our own damn business. 0.98
00:12:43.060 Yeah, I love how you pointed out that Tim Walton's mind-your-own-damn-business phrase, many people thought that he meant this, like, don't get in, like, my family's sexuality's life. 0.99
00:12:53.300 But what he actually means is when he's abducting your child, because a nine-year-old has decided to say that they're trans, or when he's, because that's what he did, by the way.
00:13:02.740 He made a state that, or when he creates something like this COVID lockdown policy, where you can call and have your neighbors arrested for, what was it, 90 days for leaving their house during COVID?
00:13:13.360 You know, and you're being dragged from your house, or your kids are being dragged from your house, and you're like, why are you doing this? 0.98
00:13:20.100 He means mind your own damn business in those scenarios. 0.95
00:13:23.440 He basically means don't ask questions of people in authority. 0.99
00:13:26.100 And you can see this by the way he used the mind-your-own-damn-business line in the debate, which Simone noted.
00:13:32.420 He's like, oh, he basically means don't ask me questions about why I'm doing something shady, which is similar to, you know, the way Camelon, right? 0.90
00:13:39.840 Any further thoughts before I go further?
00:13:41.960 Proceed.
00:13:43.480 And I love progressive sources trying to downplay this. 0.99
00:13:46.040 It's like, bitch, she copy-pasted from Wikipedia in a published book, man! 1.00
00:13:53.500 Man, this isn't something that you can scrub over. 0.99
00:13:59.160 Come on.
00:13:59.580 Apparently it is, according to...
00:14:03.120 It doesn't matter.
00:14:04.020 Different rules?
00:14:05.680 It's very much a Napoleon. 0.65
00:14:07.620 When I say Napoleon, I mean Napoleon from Animal Farm.
00:14:10.280 Some people are more equal than others.
00:14:11.800 It's like, well, yes, we need laws, and I need to arbitrarily throw large numbers of people in prison, but those laws don't apply to me.
00:14:18.520 I'm of the ruling class.
00:14:19.920 Yes, and I mean, she's descended from plantation owners. 1.00
00:14:24.160 She thinks like a plantation owner. 0.96
00:14:25.460 And I have pointed out, like, when it was cheaper to pay people to do a job, she argued to keep them in prison because it was fire season and they needed the free labor, even though the free labor costs more than just paying for them.
00:14:36.660 She thinks like an authoritarian.
00:14:38.800 But anyway, reactions to the response.
00:14:41.440 Harris's campaign has dismissed the accusations as politically motivated attacks, but they're true.
00:14:47.320 What do you mean dismissed as politically motivated attacks?
00:14:51.100 And the New York Times published an article that some claim it downplayed the severity of the allegations.
00:14:55.540 Of course they would.
00:14:56.740 They did a piece on us recently on how we're so...
00:14:59.460 I love the piece on us.
00:15:00.840 It was a piece on pronatalism, right?
00:15:02.440 And it's like, we need a form of pronatalism that doesn't say, we need to force dinks to have kids, but that says, I support your decision not to have kids, but I just want to make it easier for those who are choosing to have kids to have more kids. 0.74
00:15:14.660 And I'm like, that's exactly what we say!
00:15:18.260 A hundred times!
00:15:19.200 You can even look at our dinks video!
00:15:20.620 These are people who really, really, really, really should not be having kids. 0.96
00:15:23.920 We mean this both from a genetic reason, like as we've talked about, like a dink is obviously more likely to be narcissistic, less likely to want to get back to society, etc. 1.00
00:15:32.240 But in addition to that, they're not going to be good parents.
00:15:36.680 Like what, what, what? 1.00
00:15:39.320 You crazy nutter butters. 0.98
00:15:41.800 Anyway, in December 2023, Claudia Gay faced accusations. 0.97
00:15:46.400 This was the head of Harvard at the time of plagiarism in her academic work.
00:15:50.300 This was, by the way, a black woman who was head of Harvard and clearly didn't have the qualifications to get there. 1.00
00:15:55.620 And I will go over proof that she didn't have the qualifications to get there, but they wanted a black woman running things. 1.00
00:16:01.360 Over her 1997 PhD dissertation, the allegations came shortly after Gay's controversial congressional testimony where she was incredibly anti-Semitic.
00:16:10.100 By the way, if you're wondering, how anti-Semitic could she have been? 0.95
00:16:13.940 When she was asked, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment?
00:16:19.820 And she responded, it can be, depending on the context.
00:16:24.340 And they tried to give her an out on this.
00:16:26.320 Like the Republican was like, you can't possibly mean what you just said.
00:16:30.440 And her response to that was, quote, again, it depends, depending on the context, end quote.
00:16:35.620 So genocide calls for the genocide of all Jews, not, not bullying or harassment, not even hate speech, not bullying or harassment, not cause for any form of discipline within the existing Harvard system.
00:16:53.180 Horrifying. 0.97
00:16:53.780 And I would remind people, when we're talking about the urban monoculture or this DEI mafia, to Jews. 1.00
00:17:01.560 These people are not your friends.
00:17:04.300 Okay?
00:17:05.220 If you want to know why they're not your friends, it's because they have created a world in which all differences between groups are the result of some form of past oppression.
00:17:13.260 Because Jews are disproportionately in positions of power, Jews just succeed more than other groups. 1.00
00:17:19.440 That's really clear in the statistics.
00:17:21.040 That means that definitionally, not only can you not have been subject to past oppression in the past, but if you say you might have been, that's pretty sus in their minds.
00:17:30.060 They might not say it out loud, but they say behind closed doors, let me tell you what, I've been to enough of the New York dinner parties to know this at this point.
00:17:36.220 And it means that you're probably architects of all the oppression.
00:17:40.480 So, really, really, really, do not be Jews for Hitler on this, okay? 0.87
00:17:46.800 These people don't like you.
00:17:48.720 We are trying to just elevate, this is their own writing here. 0.95
00:17:54.280 This is their own genocide for all Jews. 0.95
00:17:58.740 I really don't know if they should face any disciplinary action at all, is what they're saying here, and that is horrifying to me.
00:18:05.060 Initially, Harvard's governing board, the Harvard Corporation, stood by Gay, describing the situation as a few instances of inadequate citation, rather than research the misconduct.
00:18:14.420 So, they refused to research it, then independent researchers researched it further.
00:18:17.420 As more allegations suffered, Harvard announced that Gay would make corrections to her dissertation and two academic papers.
00:18:24.320 An independent review was conducted, but completed in just a few weeks, and lack of transparency raised questions about its thoroughness.
00:18:30.900 So, they basically did nothing.
00:18:32.100 By early January 2024, the number of allegations had grown significantly, with claims of plagiarism affecting about half of Gay's published works.
00:18:39.420 So, she plagiarized about half of all things she had ever published.
00:18:42.360 Okay, I didn't realize that they kept investigating and they found more.
00:18:45.260 That's nice to me.
00:18:45.520 Well, and Harvard kept trying to shut this down.
00:18:48.400 They never really investigated any of this, because, again, protected class.
00:18:52.680 Well, and, or they maybe looked into it initially, immediately found how bad it was, and didn't want more to come out.
00:19:00.120 You know, they were like, let's, don't pull on this thread, because the sweater's going to fall apart.
00:19:04.600 I don't think that's it.
00:19:04.860 I think knowing how the urban monoculture works, they just seriously didn't consider investigating someone they considered a protected class.
00:19:11.260 What's the point?
00:19:12.080 It doesn't matter if she did anyway. 0.96
00:19:13.580 Yeah, well, we can't really fire a black woman from the president of our school, so, like, why investigate, right? 1.00
00:19:22.740 Like, she gets to do whatever she wants, break whatever rules she wants. 0.57
00:19:26.180 I think this is why progressives aren't freaking out about the Kamala Harris plagiarism, even though, like, the urban monoculture should know, like, this is a big issue and should be a huge stain on her character.
00:19:36.040 Whereas, it's very clear we live in a classed society right now, where, depending on your ethnicity, you are subject to different rules.
00:19:44.580 And that is really effed up.
00:19:46.640 Like, that is what I thought what we called racism and what we were fighting when we said we were fighting racism.
00:19:53.400 So, but anyway, some of the most clear-cut cases involved verbatim copying without proper attribution, including instances where Gay allegedly lifted material from other scholars without quotation marks or citations.
00:20:05.960 One example involved copying from a Bureau of Justice assistance report on crime statistics.
00:20:11.460 In some cases, Gay reportedly used language from Wikipedia articles, including factual errors presented on pages at the time.
00:20:17.760 Oh, no.
00:20:18.600 So, not only plagiarizing, but plagiarizing factual errors.
00:20:21.960 Incorrect.
00:20:22.660 Wow.
00:20:22.960 Oh, okay.
00:20:23.600 And then people act like she resigned.
00:20:25.080 They're like, on January 2nd, 2024, Gay resigned as president of Harvard University, citing plagiarism.
00:20:30.480 And basically, in this resignation speech, she didn't say that she had done anything wrong. 0.84
00:20:33.700 She said this was a racist conspiracy against her, but she didn't want it to hurt Harvard, which is so absolutely ridiculous. 0.55
00:20:38.720 But what a lot of people don't know is, you know how she makes her money today? 0.95
00:20:42.700 She still works at Harvard.
00:20:44.340 She's still a professor.
00:20:45.900 And again, they're like, she's tenured.
00:20:47.280 And it's like, well, so was Jordan Peterson.
00:20:48.940 No, I thought Jordan Peterson had been fired from his tenured position,
00:20:51.980 but was functionally forced into a position where the only ethical choice for him was to quit.
00:20:56.380 Over a topic similar to this, quote,
00:20:59.180 First, my qualified and supremely trained heterosexual white male graduate students,
00:21:04.360 and I've had many others, by the way, face a negligible chance of being offered university research positions despite stellar scientific dossiers.
00:21:11.800 This is partially because of the diversity, inclusivity, and equity mandates, my preferred acronym, D.I.E.
00:21:18.940 These have been imposed universally in academia, despite the fact that university hiring communities have already done everything reasonable for all the years of my career,
00:21:27.480 and then some, to ensure that no qualified, quote-unquote, minority candidates were ever overlooked.
00:21:32.720 My students are also partially unacceptable precisely because they are my students.
00:21:37.480 I am academic persona non grata because of my unacceptable philosophical positions.
00:21:43.020 And this isn't just some inconvenience.
00:21:45.000 These facts render my job morally untenable.
00:21:47.700 How can I accept prospective researchers and train them in good conscience, knowing their employment prospects to be minimal?
00:21:54.000 Like, you should be fired when you do certain things, and I don't think Jordan Peterson should have been fired,
00:21:58.640 but what I'm just saying is being mildly center-right, which is what Jordan Peterson is.
00:22:02.960 He is not extreme right.
00:22:04.480 He's not anywhere near as far right-leaning as we are, for example, and he was fired for that.
00:22:09.580 And we are considered like rhinos by some people.
00:22:12.740 And Jordan Peterson is, like, way over there in our dust in terms of to the right.
00:22:16.420 And, yeah, I'm very, I mean, I'm just disappointed that it's gotten this far.
00:22:20.820 By the way, if you want to know how much she was making as a president of Harvard,
00:22:23.560 she was making $0.88 million per year.
00:22:26.700 Whoa.
00:22:27.740 Oh, my goodness.
00:22:28.900 That's a lot of money.
00:22:30.280 But this is not the only instance of this happening.
00:22:33.260 Let's go over some other DEI people who got caught plagiarizing.
00:22:37.240 Sherry A. Charleston, Harvard's chief diversity and inclusion officer, of course.
00:22:41.740 Oh, no. That's a bad look.
00:22:42.660 For 40 counts of plagiarism in 2024.
00:22:45.140 Then we have Adal McKinn, chief DEI officer for staff at Columbia University Irving Medical Center.
00:22:52.380 Hey, maybe originality is a white thing.
00:22:54.940 It's like a white culture thing.
00:22:57.360 What?
00:22:58.340 Originality.
00:22:59.120 You know, just like.
00:22:59.800 Oh, yes.
00:23:00.200 We need to say that expecting originality of people, like this Smithsonian report that was like hard work and being on time or only for white people. 0.87
00:23:07.200 That's imposing white culture on other people.
00:23:10.080 No, we don't believe this.
00:23:11.280 We think this is a racist.
00:23:12.240 I know.
00:23:12.460 I'm joking.
00:23:13.140 I'm joking.
00:23:13.860 But I'm saying that maybe that's also.
00:23:17.160 It could literally be something that is believed.
00:23:20.340 If literally punctuality.
00:23:21.940 Oh, I can see this start to surface.
00:23:23.160 Is associated.
00:23:23.740 Is it like, oh, yeah.
00:23:25.060 Yeah, they're like, well, don't you understand?
00:23:27.100 Like, that's a white cultural value.
00:23:28.880 And don't you understand that most art and most everything else, we stand on the shoulders of giants.
00:23:35.040 Of course we copy.
00:23:36.680 That's the only way that humans iteratively improve.
00:23:39.140 I could totally.
00:23:39.680 I could. 0.99
00:23:40.680 I could make an argument, an impassioned argument as to why plagiarism is a stupid thing to prosecute and why. 0.91
00:23:51.700 I'm okay if we had a natural cultural shift in that direction. 0.77
00:23:55.960 Yeah.
00:23:56.160 But we are not having a natural cultural shift in that direction.
00:23:59.120 We are having an instance in which people of certain ethnic and gender groups.
00:24:03.220 Right, where selectively plagiarism is okay and permissible, right?
00:24:07.420 Yeah, so Alday McKinn, chief DEI officer for staff at Columbia University Irving Medical Center, accused of plagiarizing parts of his dissertation for Wikipedia and other sources.
00:24:19.180 This was in 2024.
00:24:20.260 So keep in mind, all of this is like just this year.
00:24:22.400 Natalie J. Perry, leader of the cultural North Star program at UCLA School of Medicine, which was a heavy DEI program, accused in April 2024 of publishing large parts of her doctoral work.
00:24:33.220 I can't even imagine plagiarizing a dissertation, not like homework, which is what I was terrified of plagiarizing, a dissertation.
00:24:41.400 You'd expect it from students because we've already, and we've had other episodes about how just bankrupt and hollowed out the university classroom is today from a student's perspective.
00:24:51.060 But professors and PhD students, I mean, these are people who have invested.
00:24:55.400 We've had departments where like our friends, like Johnny and Amelie, gets removed from departments from stating like mildly controversial things.
00:25:03.640 Like this is absolutely insane.
00:25:06.520 And he's been removed from running multiple departments that he started.
00:25:09.840 The one that always gets me the worst is at, what school was it?
00:25:13.680 But anyway, he ran a department there that was a very, very popular department on like controversial philosophy.
00:25:19.300 And he ended up having his department shut down and he was fired by the person who ended up being his boss, who was the lady who, by the way, a woman of color, who did all those spurious accusations around, oh no, Duke, around the Duke lacrosse lawsuit, which have since been shown to be completely wrong.
00:25:36.760 That the person was completely in the wrong, this person has never apologized to the people whose life she's ruined, and yet she continues to be promoted to running a department right now.
00:25:45.860 If the world had any justice, she would be fired and never able to work again.
00:25:49.680 And yet she's running a department and able to do things like in his career, which is insane.
00:25:54.880 But hold on, I haven't gotten to the last person.
00:25:56.460 LeVar Charleston, chief diversity officer at University of Wisconsin-Madison, implicated alongside his wife, Sherry Modison, in allegations of research misconduct.
00:26:04.700 So just across the board, you keep seeing this.
00:26:07.680 And the question is, I think you see two things here.
00:26:10.720 I think one, you see a society now where it's very clear that the legal system and the rules within universities are applied to different ethnic groups differently.
00:26:19.920 And I think that no matter who you are, it's very clear that this is the case.
00:26:24.680 And that is racism.
00:26:26.520 That is bigotry.
00:26:27.840 I don't care that the leftists tried to redefine racism.
00:26:30.860 That's bigotry.
00:26:31.700 And I don't think anyone who historically fought against bigots would see this as anything else.
00:26:36.600 And I think that the institutions right now, our university campuses are fundamentally bigoted institutions that have an ethno hierarchy and a gender hierarchy.
00:26:47.600 And they need to be, quote unquote, decolonized. 0.93
00:26:50.560 Let's put it that way.
00:26:51.240 They need to be decolonized by the urban monoculture.
00:26:53.380 And I think we need to lead a decolonization effort of our university system because this is horrifying that's gotten to this level.
00:27:02.020 But I also think more than this, the fact that everyone's so okay with all of this plagiarism, like on the part of Pamela or on the part of these other individuals, and they just don't care.
00:27:11.400 It's because they know they don't expect her to actually do the job.
00:27:15.360 They're like, yeah, she's like a priest cast. 0.98
00:27:17.500 She doesn't actually do her job. 0.86
00:27:18.980 Like the deep state does all the work.
00:27:20.800 And it's like, yeah, well, this becomes a problem when the FAA starts like hiring people based on how much they hate authority and how much they hate science, which is a real thing that happened.
00:27:30.540 Yeah, see, Tracy Woodgrain's write-up about this and or our episode about this.
00:27:35.360 I guess, yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, there was in U.S. politics another issue of plagiarism associated with one of the two major presidential candidates that did come up.
00:27:45.200 And there was a big kerfuffle about it.
00:27:46.820 And it was when I believe a speech of Melania Trump's was partially plagiarized, if memory serves.
00:27:54.060 Do you remember this?
00:27:54.840 Yeah, and people freak out about that.
00:27:55.720 She doesn't even run anything. 0.78
00:27:57.020 Yeah, she has no decision-making capacity. 1.00
00:27:59.180 She is a figurehead. 0.99
00:28:01.000 She, yeah, and it was a speechwriter who did it. 1.00
00:28:04.320 And I mean, because my understanding is Kamala Harris did not have this book ghostwritten.
00:28:08.300 She co-wrote it with someone, correct?
00:28:09.780 She's admitted.
00:28:10.660 She's admitted in her responses that she was responsible for the plagiarism.
00:28:14.400 Because she hasn't denied it.
00:28:15.520 She hasn't said, oh, my co-author did this or, oh, it's not real.
00:28:18.720 She said-
00:28:19.260 Yeah, you wouldn't think that like the co-author, if being a good Democrat, would throw themselves under the bus to save her.
00:28:25.480 It's interesting that she owned up to it.
00:28:27.160 No, because they haven't.
00:28:28.500 It's clear to me that she was the one who did it.
00:28:30.980 Oh.
00:28:33.040 That's interesting.
00:28:34.840 Yeah, I guess that you're right, though.
00:28:36.740 I was at first thinking this, everyone plagiarizes and this probably isn't a big deal.
00:28:43.000 And that's why no one's talking about it.
00:28:44.660 But the point that people freaked out when the first lady of the United States had a partially plagiarized speech.
00:28:53.300 And hers wasn't from Wikipedia, including factual inaccuracies.
00:28:57.680 So, yeah, pretty bad.
00:29:02.680 Yeah.
00:29:02.960 And I was really sad to see that even the Drudge Report just didn't mention it anywhere.
00:29:07.060 Like, I feel like we're in such a dystopian world right now where nobody can talk about what's true anymore.
00:29:15.840 Nobody can be like-
00:29:17.020 The left feels the same way.
00:29:18.020 The left feels like, and I can tell you, so right now we, 20-something days up to the election in the U.S., are looking at two very polarized sides collectively freaking out in a very myopic matter about the other side.
00:29:34.940 On the right, there's a lot of awareness that there's manipulation in the media, really a lot of bias.
00:29:44.060 And then on the left, there is genuine concern that the right is going to lose the election and then attempt some kind of revolution to undermine democracy in the U.S. and to just take over by force or something like that.
00:30:02.400 And-
00:30:04.120 Is there really?
00:30:05.420 Yeah, there is.
00:30:06.360 When we were driving this morning to go on our strategy walk, we drove by various lawn signs because we're in a key swing state and in a key swing district within that swing state.
00:30:18.880 Which is why we moved here, by the way.
00:30:20.420 Yeah.
00:30:20.940 We're in a place that quote-unquote matters.
00:30:23.600 There were multiple signs about the integrity of democracy and despots.
00:30:28.880 So, yes, Malcolm.
00:30:30.140 But they're the side that didn't even vote in their own primaries.
00:30:34.860 They're the side that, like, canceled democracy.
00:30:37.220 I know, but that's not the world that they see.
00:30:39.740 And we have two sides that see basically totally different worlds and are incapable, like muggles, of seeing the other side. 1.00
00:30:46.880 And I think that it's-
00:30:47.980 I don't-
00:30:48.480 You need to be aware of that.
00:30:49.480 I think that what you're doing is you're trying to do these, like, the two sides are equal thing.
00:30:54.200 And I don't think that that's what we're dealing with here.
00:30:58.280 You know, you can't have somebody who's arguing a completely ridiculous and fictional position treated as the moral equivalent.
00:31:05.680 So, here's an example right now.
00:31:07.740 How can they know better when all of the media they're exposed to gives them no evidence that they could possibly do wrong?
00:31:12.620 I'm expected to try to consume media on both sides of the aisle.
00:31:16.720 Like, I expect people to, at a basic level, know what's going on on the other side of the aisle.
00:31:23.580 I would argue that when you look at-
00:31:25.400 Talk about-
00:31:26.240 Okay, give me a chance here, because I can present, I think, maybe a compelling argument.
00:31:32.620 These people are only accustomed to consuming what you might call mainstream media.
00:31:38.280 So, their attempt to consume media on the right to take in both sides exposes them to mainstream conservative media, which I would argue is actually pretty low quality and not very good and pretty unhinged.
00:31:53.500 Well, there isn't mainstream conservative media.
00:31:55.200 I mean, you've got Fox News, which most conservatives would call a left-wing media outlet right now.
00:32:00.120 I would call it a left-wing media outlet.
00:32:01.880 Well, that's what they're watching when they watch both sides.
00:32:05.080 And it is-
00:32:05.960 Then you're just not getting real-
00:32:07.240 And people can be like, what?
00:32:08.380 If you think even Fox News is a left-wing media outlet, what do you think is a right-wing media outlet?
00:32:13.500 And it's like, I want you to go to a list of the top 10 most popular podcasts right now.
00:32:18.780 You won't find a single left-leaning podcast on the list, and you will find, like, eight explicitly Republican podcasts on that list.
00:32:27.120 Right-leaning media has become decentralized.
00:32:30.560 It's things like this podcast, like what you're listening to between Simone and I, but we can't even go into everything.
00:32:36.820 While this used to be true, it looks like recently the New York Times slipped into spot number seven under the top 10 list.
00:32:45.620 Like, if you want to see our further thoughts on this, you can go to our Antifa video where I talk about things that I don't want to talk about here because I don't want to get demonetized.
00:32:51.480 I understand your point, but I mean, I, you know, but have some pity on the person that you met before, you know, when we first started dating, you know, I came from a progressive background, I consumed progressive media, and I just didn't know better because I, I...
00:33:14.180 No, but you were, like, curious.
00:33:16.280 Yeah, but when you don't know the right person who can show you the right things, you're just not going to find these things out.
00:33:25.780 And, and that's, that's my argument, is, is there's a lot of really well-meaning people who are very afraid about the integrity of democracy and human rights, et cetera, et cetera, and...
00:33:35.360 I am afraid about the integrity of democracy, right?
00:33:37.240 I know.
00:33:37.820 Because Camilla didn't run for office. 1.00
00:33:40.000 She kept people in prison when they shouldn't be there. 1.00
00:33:42.020 She used them for prison labor when it would have been cheaper to set them free. 1.00
00:33:44.700 Her running mate is a guy who did a COVID snitch line to have people randomly arrested when they did things like leave their house, even though we now know that the science didn't back that.
00:33:54.480 Camilla has said that Brazil was right to ban X because they allowed for free speech.
00:34:00.140 Most well-meaning American voters don't know that.
00:34:03.000 Political figures, like, this is, this is, like, she has said, basically, up front, I plan to be a dictator.
00:34:10.420 That's my goal.
00:34:11.640 No more free elections.
00:34:12.740 Like, that's, that's, like, the stated platform right now.
00:34:17.120 And, and is Trump perfect on that stuff?
00:34:19.460 No, I don't think he is.
00:34:20.920 But I think that that's because we are entering an era right now where we are going to need to decide in one of the upcoming elections, what do we want?
00:34:30.720 Do we want a democracy that is corrupted in that it is controlled by a dictatorially, fascistly minded cabal of deep state people who think they're better than you, basically don't think you're human, don't care what you have to say, hate the poor, love the rich, and control the state?
00:34:49.940 Or do we want to be controlled by a loose organization of crazy conspiracy theorists who lack the, the organizational competence to take over their own campaign?
00:35:03.720 Like, I, I just, it's, it's so night and day in terms of what you're looking at here, from my perspective, at least.
00:35:13.260 Mm-hmm.
00:35:16.060 I, I hear you, and, and we, we've chosen our side.
00:35:19.820 I'm just saying that most people aren't aware of the things that you are aware of.
00:35:24.320 So, they're doing the best they can with the information they have on hand.
00:35:27.920 Okay, you're right.
00:35:30.040 Well, that's what I'd say.
00:35:30.980 If you're thinking of voting in this election cycle and you're an American, I'd ask you this question.
00:35:35.480 Can you actually afford, as a family, four more years of this?
00:35:40.440 Can your family actually afford if prices continue to go up as they have over this past four years, over the next four years?
00:35:46.780 And keep in mind, you could be like, that's not going to happen.
00:35:48.960 Kamala Harris certainly has more sane economic policies than Joe Biden. 1.00
00:35:52.680 Says woman who wants to try to fix grocery store prices, which every economist agrees would cause them to skyrocket and break the economy. 1.00
00:36:02.660 Her campaign slowly walked that back. 1.00
00:36:04.740 Well, we'll say very quietly walked that back after, I'm sure.
00:36:08.240 I'm just wondering about her economic acumen compared to the existing administration. 0.97
00:36:12.300 It is not great.
00:36:13.880 So, can you deal with what has happened over the past four years happening again?
00:36:19.960 Can you economically survive that in the family?
00:36:22.680 And if not, what are you thinking?
00:36:25.840 That's my broader take on this.
00:36:29.100 But what about you, Simone?
00:36:30.760 Any final thoughts?
00:36:33.240 Just that I do find it very interesting that, I guess, okay, this takes me to my whole thing about privacy.
00:36:40.660 Where, like, I am not so afraid of online privacy rules and internet privacy.
00:36:46.000 Because I'm like, I don't have anything to hide.
00:36:47.440 And the one thing that changed my mind on that, though clearly we're still not big on privacy, was people saying, hey, you know, you may be free now, but then suddenly when some new administration is in power and someone needs to take you out, they will use that.
00:37:04.700 They will use your lack of privacy as a tool against you.
00:37:09.700 And I think that what's scary about the plagiarism case study in the United States in politics and elsewhere in academia.
00:37:20.320 This is one of those things of, like, people can copy, and then they just will use the, any, any, or you can commit academic misconduct.
00:37:31.320 And people will only use that selectively when they want to take you out.
00:37:35.980 And I just am afraid of systems in which there's selective application of rules.
00:37:41.040 Because that, to me, is a sign of some kind of regime that is not run in a just way.
00:37:49.380 That is not run as intended or as designed, but instead run with special interest.
00:37:54.120 So I guess that was a very inefficient way of saying that when I see unequal and inconsistent application of standards and rules, that is a sign of deep and dangerous corruption that is meant to be the hammer of inflicting unjust policies.
00:38:18.220 It's scary.
00:38:19.300 It's not a good sign.
00:38:20.340 It's not a great indicator.
00:38:21.520 Yeah, I can see that.
00:38:26.760 Anyway, love you to death.
00:38:28.260 Hopefully we can escape this situation before it gets worse, before we have to retreat.
00:38:33.900 But you are an amazing woman.
00:38:36.280 Tonight, am I making you pumpkin, slow cooker beef, sloppy joe sandwich?
00:38:40.820 No, just reheat what I have in the fridge.
00:38:43.840 Yeah, but in a hot dog bun.
00:38:45.580 And heat some hot dog buns.
00:38:47.860 Like two?
00:38:48.320 And cut some scallions, and I'll put them in the hot dog bun with it.
00:38:50.400 Oh, yeah, just like fresh, like two of them?
00:38:53.420 Yeah, something like, well, I mean, one is probably enough.
00:38:56.340 Okay.
00:38:57.160 Because I don't think we'll get more of the two hot dogs out of this.
00:38:59.940 So I can do the two hot dogs and then do some tomato soup.
00:39:03.780 Tomato soup.
00:39:04.800 Okay.
00:39:06.100 That sounds good.
00:39:07.460 By the way, I'm really excited about this.
00:39:09.840 We did a lot of slow cooked meat.
00:39:11.160 And then Simone did with pumpkins that she bought.
00:39:13.240 She made pumpkin puree.
00:39:14.440 And then we mixed together the ultra slow cooked meat with the pumpkin puree to create
00:39:19.660 meaty pumpkin puree.
00:39:21.580 And we mixed this with a rendang sauce and a little bit of like soy sauce and some MSG
00:39:26.360 and some other spices.
00:39:27.540 And now we're creating like sloppy joe hot dogs with it that are based on a pumpkin based
00:39:32.500 dish to be very festive and seasonal.
00:39:34.120 I really wanted base camp cooking to become a thing, but I realized it's too different
00:39:38.140 from the main show.
00:39:38.940 Maybe one day if we become popular enough, I'll create a different show because I really
00:39:42.400 love cooking.
00:39:44.360 Yeah.
00:39:44.740 I feel like someday we could open a restaurant.
00:39:49.200 When we were in Vegas and we saw the restaurant themed on the reality show families, I still want
00:39:53.180 to become a reality show family so we can open our Vegas restaurant.
00:39:56.020 Oh, yeah.
00:39:58.080 But I mean, no one wants to be in the restaurant business.
00:40:00.300 You like never make money doing that.
00:40:01.760 No, no, no, licensing are likenesses for the restaurant industry.
00:40:05.880 Oh, yeah.
00:40:08.160 That's my goal.
00:40:09.580 Okay.
00:40:10.160 I love you.
00:40:11.140 I love you too.
00:40:12.520 I.
00:40:12.960 You can just sit on it.
00:40:14.020 Yeah, that's, that's toasty.
00:40:15.340 That's just a towel.
00:40:16.920 Octavian, where are you?
00:40:18.660 Octavian, buddy.
00:40:19.740 It's just a moving blanket.
00:40:22.060 I don't think it's, no, it's just a towel.
00:40:23.740 Oh, no, it's not moving.
00:40:24.720 Someone just left a mess.
00:40:26.980 No, I don't think so.
00:40:28.400 I don't think that.
00:40:28.920 That's just a towel.
00:40:29.740 Wait, why is that towel making noise?
00:40:34.080 Why is the towel laughing? 0.99
00:40:36.280 Because it's Octavian.
00:40:38.620 It's Octavian?
00:40:39.880 Yeah.
00:40:45.920 Ow. 0.99
00:40:48.140 A towel is through.
00:40:50.080 All right, let's see here.
00:40:52.320 What?
00:40:53.780 What are you doing here?
00:40:56.560 Oh, my God.
00:40:59.600 No way.
00:41:02.420 Yay.
00:41:05.540 節目
00:41:08.540 Oh, my gosh.
00:41:09.840 Oh, my gosh.
00:41:10.780 Oh, my gosh.
00:41:11.220 Oh, my gosh.
00:41:11.540 Oh, my gosh.
00:41:13.360 Oh, yeah.
00:41:13.580 Oh, my gosh.
00:41:13.740 Oh, my gosh.
00:41:13.860 Oh, my gosh.
00:41:18.320 Oh, my gosh.
00:41:18.780 Yeah.
00:41:18.960 Oh, my gosh.