Based Camp - May 25, 2026


Why Do Wokes Support Islam Despite Apparent Ideological Conflicts? (A Serious Investigation)


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00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be discussing 0.98
00:00:04.640 islam and the left which have been bedfellows throughout recent history obviously they were
00:00:13.920 very strong bedfellows during the iranian revolution which we will discuss how that 1.00
00:00:19.040 ended up happening and they all were then killed afterwards it was very much like the sheep sighting
00:00:25.120 was the wolves only for the wolves to feast on the sheep as soon as they got what they wanted
00:00:29.760 pretty witless and i think could be a sign of like obviously there's a famous picture of the two
00:00:34.940 young progressive girls in a car cheering the rise of the new ayatollah and both one of them
00:00:40.540 was killed by his regime and the other one lived their life as a refugee and so you know not good
00:00:46.140 for them historically when they've done this but i wanted to better understand why and how these two
00:00:53.360 things are compatible and people can just say well they aren't compatible malcolm and i'm like
00:00:57.780 surely progressives don't think that right like surely progressives have looked into this and
00:01:05.560 have some sort of thesis i just haven't taken the time to understand so what i did and what i what
00:01:13.380 i wanted this piece to be which unfortunately can't be and i'll explain why in just a second
00:01:17.400 is i wanted to go through on some sort of like well reasoned progressive piece on why islamism
00:01:25.460 and progressive values make such good bedfellas okay and that we would go through this piece
00:01:32.180 and i would explain well this doesn't really work here or they actually have some points here
00:01:37.440 and very very interestingly uh i could not find any such piece what how that seems right i assumed
00:01:47.340 they must be out there everywhere right like i was like they must have like taken the time to
00:01:52.860 like a grok digest and explain this yeah right because it seems like a contradiction and there
00:01:59.480 were a lot of progressive the free press tried to make to make an explanation of this no they didn't
00:02:06.140 no they didn't what the free press did because i read that article that was one of the ones i read
00:02:09.560 in preparation for this okay is they tried to they basically just said this happened before
00:02:15.920 was the islamic revolution and then they went over a few things from that but that wasn't that
00:02:20.900 didn't really explain why the progressives thought this was okay okay so you're just talking yeah i
00:02:25.020 guess your argument is that isn't an explanation it's only a history of the alliance it doesn't
00:02:29.600 explain the underlying reason for the alliance though oh my god when you move around your room
00:02:35.700 it sounds like your room is the star wars trash compactor like so so i ended up running ahead and
00:02:46.320 being like okay let's see if i can find any of these right and what i did find so i'll go over
00:02:50.020 what i did find a number of i found like six or seven of these and there appeared to be near
00:02:54.860 infinity more is progressives moldering over the fact that people thought that they were unaware
00:03:04.000 that muslims like like making fun of them when like netanyahu said that gays for gaza is like 0.94
00:03:11.100 kfg fried chicken or chicken for kfc right like and they they really hate conservatives making 0.93
00:03:18.060 fun of them for this uh being unaware that in these groups if they say they want to help they 0.99
00:03:24.360 do want to kill gay people like that's in the quran you know you stone somebody for being gay 0.94
00:03:29.220 that's sharia law right like this is part of their tradition it happens regularly across these 0.99
00:03:34.320 countries what would happen to a gay couple in gaza executed according to islamic law islam doesn't
00:03:40.440 endorse gays islam doesn't endorse homosexuality just like canada doesn't endorse a lot of things
00:03:45.380 So would you like to see Sharia law in Canada replace Canadian law?
00:03:48.840 At some point it will. 0.95
00:03:50.480 One day we can have a Muslim majority nation here in Canada. 1.00
00:03:53.240 Right in your face.
00:03:54.880 And what those articles did, which was very frustrating to me because it didn't provide a logical explanation.
00:04:01.380 They basically just said Netanyahu's government has said homophobic things as well.
00:04:06.340 and that was obviously very unsatisfying for me because i was just like well i mean yes it's a
00:04:15.580 right-wing government but like when you say said homophobic things like he said he's comfortable
00:04:21.480 being called a homophobe he doesn't support pride marches he doesn't support you know gay stuff being 0.98
00:04:26.820 taught to kids he that is not the same thing as having a government policy of murdering gay people 0.85
00:04:34.900 OK, but they're sort of trying to equivocate the two or they will note that there have been some gay people who have been killed in Israel by members of the general public for bigoted reasons.
00:04:47.160 Right. And they seem to not be able to tell or assume that their audience won't care that that's different from something being carried out as a government policy, e.g. just random homophobes versus the government will kill you.
00:05:03.340 I mean, they're obviously very different. But the core thing that I basically realized is they see being mildly, and I guess this makes sense if you look at their whiter actions, they see being mildly uncomfortable with gay people or uncomfortable with trans people or disagreeing with their ideology as equivalent to a government policy of institutionalized killing of gay and trans people. 0.96
00:05:30.140 but but think about your actions and this makes sense when they say that like oh trump's government's 0.54
00:05:37.060 going to get rid of me like remember when trump was elected and a bunch of gay people were like 0.96
00:05:40.760 basically saying oh trump we're going to be eradicated now that trump has come into power 0.99
00:05:45.100 trans people being like trans people in the united states are going to be mass genocided after this 0.90
00:05:49.420 they talked about this like that this was something that was going to happen to them 0.95
00:05:53.020 and i think that we as conservatives were not listening to that we heard it and we thought it
00:05:59.120 was funny but we didn't understand that actually in their minds these two things are functional
00:06:04.460 equivalents slightly disagreeing with them and or saying i personally would not live this lifestyle
00:06:11.960 and saying we're going to build the government policy of killing you and that's why they have
00:06:16.580 reacted so harshly that's why they keep doing these assassination attempts and stuff like that
00:06:20.900 as i've explained in other videos because they think that this mild disagreement is the same as
00:06:26.100 murder. And then that justifies everything that comes out of this. But I want to get into where
00:06:34.160 these two things are surprisingly okay. Like why do Muslims keep siding with the left, right? Like 0.99
00:06:41.900 why do they appear to make good bedfellows? And at first I thought, well, maybe there's some
00:06:49.500 policies in muslim texts because i found a few articles arguing this these were from muslims
00:06:56.280 trying to explain to progressives why they should be friendly with muslims and they went over muslim
00:07:01.140 teachings trying to argue that muslim teachings are inherently socialist oh this comes down to
00:07:09.000 things like the zakat which is one of the five pillars which means that you typically donate
00:07:14.240 around 2.5% of wealth assets above a threshold to the poor needy debtors or travelers. This is,
00:07:23.020 I mean, it is socialist-like, but Christians have just as many parts of the Bible that they 0.62
00:07:28.240 could point to and say, this is socialist-like. You also have, sorry, so, but then you can say, 0.84
00:07:34.080 okay, well, if this was the case, can we look at the Gini coefficient of Muslim majority countries
00:07:38.440 to see if it's higher or lower than equivalent other countries? And Gini coefficients of Muslim
00:07:43.760 countries are enormously higher than other countries they are famously so yeah some of the 0.92
00:07:48.760 most unequal societies on earth so then the question could be okay why do they because i
00:07:54.300 don't want to ask like from a right-wing perspective how are these things to say like
00:07:58.240 as right-wingers we can say they're both totalitarian in the way they attempt to approach
00:08:03.500 things they're both very fascist in the way they attempt to approach things they both hate western 0.68
00:08:08.480 civilization. We can throw all of this out here, right? But to the left, those explanations aren't
00:08:16.880 really going to hold as much, right? So where do the left really actually agree with them and find
00:08:24.180 this co-solidarity? One is the issue of them killing gay people actually isn't a big an issue 0.99
00:08:30.280 to modern leftists as you would think explain this to me okay so if you look at muslim countries 0.90
00:08:38.960 one of the things that they do that they're known for doing is gender transition right where if
00:08:45.900 somebody is same-sex attracted they are pressured into gender transition and then they just live as
00:08:51.060 the gender and then that's not gay anymore right you know this is something that's common in places
00:08:54.740 like iran now not all muslim countries do this we'll get to the other ones in a bit but also
00:08:58.760 well i guess i'll just come out and say it if you go to other muslim countries like afghanistan
00:09:03.220 and iraq they have extremely high rates of same-sex relationships they just don't contextualize 0.80
00:09:08.840 them as gay you can still be killed for being gay but a lot of people are gay so they're like 0.99
00:09:15.220 having gay sex but no homo gay sex well yeah it's it's it's typically of a very specific kind 1.00
00:09:22.080 it is either with underage boys and that makes it not gay 1.00
00:09:25.660 A private party is underway in Kabul.
00:09:33.080 In Afghanistan, women are not allowed to dance in public,
00:09:36.900 so boys are dressed as girls and made to perform. 0.94
00:09:40.700 The ancient practice of Bachabazi, or dancing boys,
00:09:44.880 is widespread, involving orphans or boys from poor families
00:09:48.880 as young as 10 years old. 0.82
00:09:50.620 they are often sexually abused and raped 0.58
00:09:58.140 this is child trafficking the boys are abducted and taken from one province to another 0.87
00:10:04.520 the children are kept in the company of powerful armed commanders and fought to become dancing
00:10:10.240 boys or it's with people who have very large age gaps so it's almost like you know if you
00:10:17.580 multiply two negative numbers you get a positive number right and so like if you like combine 0.71
00:10:25.860 pdf files with with with homosexuality it becomes virtuous it cancels out yeah they're like no it's
00:10:34.700 i've joked before they're like no it's fine i i know i slept with a guy but he was underage so
00:10:40.100 it's not a problem i get it i get it sure yeah and and you see this actually you see pictures of
00:10:46.820 quote-unquote gays from these countries and the gay the the younger gay is like in their 20s the
00:10:53.420 the older one typically looks like they're in their 60s or something we typically see very big
00:11:00.080 the age range gap goes up as they get older basically it works like this or appears to 0.58
00:11:06.240 you would say something like well okay so they sleep with underage gay kids but what about when 0.69
00:11:11.920 they become teens or something like that who are they sleeping with and the answer is is there
00:11:16.720 enough of an age gap so that we in the west would find it creepy then it's okay if there's not that 0.95
00:11:22.520 much of an age gap then it's not okay but one so gross what i'm saying is it's not all muslim 0.99
00:11:28.820 societies are and as to why you get this phenomenon i had a whole video i was going to do on this
00:11:33.600 it's mostly because the genders are so separated that the opportunity is not there for women yeah
00:11:40.300 basically the well yeah and they mostly socialize with other men and the prohibitions on doing it
00:11:45.200 with minors aren't very strong in these countries or not acted upon often and so just because that's
00:11:51.360 all they're interacting with they they form these relationships more often you know if you've had 0.92
00:11:56.840 muslim male friends you know that they're more handsy often than other people you know like a
00:12:01.700 handholding and stuff like that when in our society we see that as romantically coded and
00:12:05.860 they're like oh it's not romantically coded in our society and it's like well i mean it kind of
00:12:10.280 is romantically coded in your society you just don't frame it as romance when you have male male
00:12:14.960 sex right so one you you do have that phenomenon which normalizes gayness in the left when they
00:12:22.600 see right they they ignore all the problematic parts of this and it normalizes it but then the
00:12:26.960 bigger point is is even if you take the societies where you have first gender transition which is
00:12:32.080 okay in most muslim societies there we there we go oh you got it right in the middle middle shot 0.54
00:12:37.420 right here you got a bullseye yeah all right keep up the practice okay but the second issue on the
00:12:46.340 gay thing is that if you have forced gender transition and it's normal in a muslim country
00:12:51.200 that means that these countries have an implicit level of trans inclusivity that you may not even 0.84
00:12:56.980 see in western yeah yeah and famously trans people go to iran to get cheap surgeries because they can
00:13:04.500 do that there and then once they're trans you know it's okay they're safe etc right now what's
00:13:09.540 fascinating about this is if muslim societies can be argued to be okay to gender transition 0.99
00:13:16.820 right it actually doesn't particularly matter in the eyes of the modern left if they kill gay men 0.98
00:13:22.660 because gay men are seen as kind of right-leaning these days like they're they're gay white men as 0.99
00:13:30.480 they say are the new white men you know within these spaces yeah because you have this olympics 0.99
00:13:35.320 of oppression hierarchy that they've sort of built among themselves trump's big gay white house on 0.66
00:13:41.660 top of it this is a new york times article where they're pointing out just how many of the leading 0.98
00:13:46.580 republicans are gay now and it's a lot of leading republican staffers are gay now more than in the
00:13:51.320 democratic administration and that's just the republican party now we can get into why i you 0.95
00:13:56.260 know is this a good idea for the republican alliance or whatever but it is a fact you know 0.96
00:14:00.140 our best get out to voters like Scott Pressler are gay. Our biggest donors are gay, Peter Thiel 0.99
00:14:06.660 and stuff like that, right? Like it's a very gay party now. And as a part of this, the leftists 1.00
00:14:11.920 sort of kicked out gays, at least male gays from the wider leftist coalition, or at least they
00:14:18.300 don't care about them that much. So if you are coming at this with a nineties Republican mindset
00:14:22.340 and you say, don't you care that they're killing gays? You may think that they're undergoing some 0.76
00:14:27.500 huge level of cognitive dissonance when they're like uh not you know not particularly right like
00:14:33.780 i'm more interested in these things that israel is doing and you may think oh they're they're 0.84
00:14:38.740 sublimating this so they're not really engaging with it and what you may not be grokking is they 0.97
00:14:43.580 don't really care you might as well have gone to them and said do you care that they are killing 0.91
00:14:49.240 white males minus one right like minus one oppression point right and they're going to be 0.98
00:14:55.080 like no of course i don't care that they're killing white males do you care that they're 0.98
00:14:58.160 killing jews no of course i don't care that they're killing jews right but we've also got 0.93
00:15:01.640 to keep in mind that as soon as october 11 happened and we've got to keep this in mind
00:15:06.340 in terms of the wider like leftist mindset so we sort of check in where they are this is when they
00:15:12.880 had like brutally murdered over a hundred people at like a peace rally right you know right outside
00:15:18.220 of gaza that was a bunch of teenagers right they had the big musical peace protest with gaza right
00:15:23.320 yes it wasn't a protest it was a concert it was a it was it was it was for peace they were trying
00:15:28.500 to yeah it was a concert for peace in promotion so they raided it they took the women as as
00:15:33.560 smex slaves they graped them to death like it was absolutely brutal absolutely terrifying but on the
00:15:39.540 same day that this had happened and on the day after this had happened before israel had tried
00:15:43.900 any sort of response yet there were parties at american college campuses cheering and you can
00:15:50.380 find videos of this we talked about this oh right the attack yeah cheering the october 11th attack
00:15:55.560 they were excited about october 11th leftists were right they saw this as a fundamentally
00:16:01.360 good thing that this had happened and so and this was their side that was being attacked right like
00:16:07.320 i'm not saying jews are their side i'm saying the the peace going teens for giving gaza more rights
00:16:14.600 who were a big part of the casualties in this attack and they just didn't care and i think
00:16:20.100 that this comes to a second point which is important to note and it's actually a huge
00:16:23.660 overlap between the two groups they really don't care about any degree of suffering pain or death
00:16:31.500 that happens to people who are similar to them or share their value system if it couldn't be seen as 0.90
00:16:38.740 serving the greater cause so to them as is the case with many muslims so many muslims don't 0.90
00:16:45.440 particularly care about what's really going on in gaza they don't care i mean obviously or they 0.97
00:16:49.600 take gaza refugees when not a single muslim majority country has done that right so why aren't
00:16:54.160 they taking gaza refugees well the reason they aren't taking gaza refugees is because they 1.00
00:16:57.460 well one because they keep trying to kill everyone when they get to a country and start a revolution 0.99
00:17:00.980 but two they they it's more than just not taking gaza refugees they are intentionally inflaming
00:17:07.380 the situation with gaza like consider iran iran has been repeatedly up until we started dealing
00:17:12.640 with them inflaming the situation with gaza inflaming the situation with you know israel and 0.78
00:17:18.120 it's like Lebanon, it's various neighbors, which they know makes things qualitatively worse 0.52
00:17:23.360 for the Muslims living in these regions, Muslims that share their political agenda that lead to 0.93
00:17:28.880 them being indiscriminately killed. But that is a complete non-factor in their sort of global 0.89
00:17:35.900 geopolitical calculation. Suffering of people who are like them is irrelevant. And this is
00:17:42.060 something that the two groups share. Another thing that you have to keep in mind is from the
00:17:47.000 position of modern leftists there really isn't a suffering calculation that they're making in
00:17:54.640 regards to the things that they're doing it's the other side has to lose our side has to win
00:18:00.620 and then they just determine who is their side like fundamentally that's what they care about 0.84
00:18:06.080 at the end of the day how does the islamist end up looking like it's their side because they are
00:18:12.980 clearly in opposition to what they are opposed to which i mean at this point you can only broadly 0.89
00:18:19.300 say i think what most people would think of is western civilization but they found other words
00:18:23.200 for it when they say the patriarchy what they really mean is western civilization right they
00:18:28.220 don't mean really a system of because it's not anymore a system of males at the top i mean women
00:18:35.020 are predominantly the ones graduating from college at this point if you look at lower professions
00:18:39.700 they're overwhelmingly in managerial positions much more than men are if you look at younger
00:18:43.760 people women out earn men right like they are the dominant faction so if if this is the case
00:18:50.300 then why do they still want this destroyed because what they were really keying to was this broader 1.00
00:18:55.260 idea of western civilization which makes them very very aligned with each other and then to go to the
00:19:02.680 the next point here which i thought was really interesting is socialism more broadly there is
00:19:07.700 nothing about a muslim coming to power where they would not take a socialist stance any muslim by
00:19:14.220 the way any thoughts before i go further simone no i find this very interesting please go on so
00:19:19.920 suppose i am a muslim coming into power right like i will go back to the imam right you know
00:19:25.980 i'm trying to take over iran or something like this uh i want to get support from people in
00:19:32.720 other communities, right? Now I can't go out there and say, I plan to kill gay people or something 0.99
00:19:39.720 like that, or I plan to implement Sharia law. That's not going to do well in the West. That's 0.99
00:19:44.680 not going to do well at a whatever rally or anything like that. But if I go out there and
00:19:49.400 I'm just like, look, the system as it is set up is currently in the favor of rich people. And by
00:19:57.440 this you know they're thinking zionists and stuff like this capitalists again jews typically fight 0.81
00:20:02.760 for capitalism historically people just the people who think jews are like pro-communism or
00:20:07.740 it is true that they were disproportionately represented within the russian communist
00:20:14.520 movement however they were proportionally significantly lower representative than they
00:20:20.780 were in capitalist governments so if you contrast like the number of jews in u.s politics versus the
00:20:26.660 number of jews in leading positions in the communist government in russia dramatically lower
00:20:31.380 and of course the communist russian government then attempted to kill all the jews right like
00:20:36.940 one of marx's books was like the problem of the jew right like it's literally like that's
00:20:42.220 they're very clear about not liking jews in leftist philosophy and so these two things sort
00:20:47.800 of aligning like we want to attack business interests we want to attack big business
00:20:52.240 we want to attack the jew and i think that this is why this is in part become more common in leftist 0.89
00:20:57.620 thought right now that immediately appeals to the islamist as well right now the islamist can say 0.80
00:21:03.800 oh yes we'll do redistribution of some kind that's within islamic values and the leftist here's 0.62
00:21:09.460 socialism right now of course when they have used leftist to get into power they have not enacted 0.83
00:21:15.240 anything that looks like what we would consider socialism anywhere else like in iran or something
00:21:20.060 like that because they don't really care about these things but they don't have a problem saying 0.97
00:21:23.300 them right like they're not gonna say to the leftists all support gay sex or something like
00:21:28.700 that but they will say to the leftists i will support your economic agenda and we've actually 0.85
00:21:36.280 seen you know even recently in america you can look at like zoran mandami coming into power right
00:21:40.360 he has pushed much harder after coming into power on the pro-islamization of manhattan
00:21:47.220 then he's pro if you look at like the czars that he's put in power these people who have
00:21:51.760 said you know really horrible things globalizing patata like kill in patata but we like i hate 0.97
00:21:57.380 white people white people like that into major positions within his government right and and 0.98
00:22:03.640 they've begun to implement their plans in regards to sort of like a broader islamic mass migration
00:22:10.260 agenda whereas they haven't actually done anything in regards to or not very successfully in regards
00:22:17.060 to his social programs, like his grocery stores, you know, they're barely moving ahead at this
00:22:21.440 point, right? And this is something we repeatedly see, you know, they appeal to the leftists to get
00:22:25.680 the vote, but they don't actually care about the leftist economic policies that much. And the
00:22:29.840 leftists, I want to tell you the big secret truth about modern leftism, they don't particularly care
00:22:36.220 that their social policies and economic policies get implemented either. Their real goal is the
00:22:42.140 destruction of the civilizational system so that they can build something new so they're they don't 0.78
00:22:47.740 they don't think to hold to account they're like zorhan where's all this leftist stuff you said
00:22:51.460 you were going to do they don't actually care about that because that's never really the point
00:22:54.860 they basically know they're on team and team is the destruction of western civilization or at least
00:23:01.060 you know right now sort of directionally the destruction of western civilization and i think
00:23:05.360 that this is where we can see why the gripers have so naturally slided into this alliance
00:23:10.220 and and nick fuentes's whiter faction has you know recently coming out saying i'm a moderate
00:23:15.000 non-woke democrat and again think about where i'm pointing out that the islamists and the leftists
00:23:22.880 actually fit in really well right so they come in here and they talk in the eyes of like carl 0.83
00:23:29.120 marx like the problem of the jew the jewish because you know they can't do usury they can't 0.82
00:23:33.400 do interest charges actually christians aren't supposed to but they don't nobody follows that 1.00
00:23:37.000 really oh yeah christians at least historically from the catholic church we're not supposed to 0.93
00:23:41.900 use usury or interest rates at all and then people realize that's like economically retarded 0.98
00:23:45.840 and leads to really bad downstream effects for society which it does by the way it's really bad 0.92
00:23:50.280 for society to not use interest rates because then you don't have a reason to invest and when
00:23:54.380 a society doesn't invest in its continued production it advances at a much slower rate 0.64
00:23:59.020 which is one of the reasons why islamic countries are so poor what many other bigger reasons but 0.96
00:24:03.720 back to this point the point here being is they come out there and they say to somebody like 0.90
00:24:08.320 Nick Fuentes look I am against the greedy businessman code Jew and he knows what they're 0.57
00:24:13.440 saying code Jew right and he thinks well what's really important to my agenda right now right 1.00
00:24:18.820 it is seeing Jews removed from positions of power right and so I can work with Islamists on that and 0.89
00:24:26.200 more than that if you listen to what is Nick Fuentes broader goal for western civilization 0.88
00:24:31.460 it is to see it collapse now his belief is that after it collapses after the movement of right
00:24:39.120 wing party collapses that he will be able to build a new right wing party in his vision a new version
00:24:47.880 of western civilization in his vision which by the way is very explicitly not something that most of
00:24:53.740 his followers would want but they just don't listen to what he's saying it doesn't really matter
00:24:56.520 the point is is he won't be able to do it he doesn't have the numbers even if he did create 0.97
00:25:00.000 the collapse that he wanted to create, whatever was built from the ashes would not be Fuentes-y
00:25:06.560 and it wouldn't be Catholic-y either. If you look at those parties right now and their relative
00:25:12.480 political influence and the growing or shrinking of their political influence and the people who
00:25:17.380 are like, oh, aren't a lot of like online influencers joining the Catholics? Just as a 0.56
00:25:21.340 side note here, one, as I pointed out before, Catholics lose eight converts for every one they
00:25:25.900 get protestants lose two converts for every one they get and even with the recent movement of
00:25:31.320 online influencers into catholicism converts right do you just mean eight practicing catholics for
00:25:37.680 every new convert they win yes they lose eight practicing for um the statistics but this has
00:25:43.280 changed a bit people can say oh maybe it's a bit better now the problem is is that a lot of online
00:25:47.580 influencers and this that we've seen recently are coming out as more explicitly anti-catholic
00:25:52.620 which wasn't a thing for a while so an example of this is redeemed zoomer did a video basically
00:25:57.520 coming out as anti-catholic really wow and he used to be a very pro-catholic streamer and basically
00:26:03.240 what he said was that in the online space what he has realized is that the way that the catholics
00:26:09.500 have treated him when he has made mild criticisms of their religion really reminds him of when he
00:26:14.660 was a progressive the way other wokes treated him and he realized that a lot of these stereotypes
00:26:19.360 that he had heard about catholics from southern baptists and stuff like this he had initially 0.96
00:26:24.660 discounted because he was being overly rosy to catholics and he didn't realize how aggressively
00:26:31.920 totalizing a at least a portion of online catholic culture was and they took over his subreddit at
00:26:39.200 one point basically and like we're using it to attempt to convert people and he he basically
00:26:45.140 said which i thought was an interesting way to put it was he decided to go into catholic culture
00:26:49.460 and instead of having his faith in whether he was a protestant shaken he ended up having his faith
00:26:54.380 in whether or not the pope was actually the antichrist shaken oh okay so they're pretty big
00:26:59.900 and redeemed zoomer is a very nice and understanding person so what i'm saying is we're seeing shifting
00:27:04.680 tides around where this is going in a lot of directions right now and this is a new shift
00:27:09.940 that we're beginning to see but the point being is okay so i'm a nick fuentes i want to see a 0.91
00:27:14.140 collapse of western civilization directionally the islamists and the progressive both are on point 0.90
00:27:20.100 for me i am excited when negative stuff happens to western countries because that brings me closer 0.99
00:27:25.780 to the point where i think i'm going to be able to sweep up all the cards off the table the point
00:27:29.200 of collapse which is again comical he just doesn't have the numbers the technology the money or even
00:27:36.280 as allies with cultural factions like even if the catholics wanted to do this they would be
00:27:39.980 scuttled by the Vatican at this point right like if they ever did begin to build a large movement
00:27:44.420 a la what Nick wants to do the Vatican would immediately do everything in their power to
00:27:49.320 denounce it and demoralize it as we've already seen them do through and people can say well
00:27:54.140 people just wouldn't listen to the Vatican it's like everyone wouldn't listen to the Vatican but
00:27:57.920 enough wood for it to cause some damage especially if they attempted to sort of engage their on the
00:28:05.920 ground forces that are still loyal to them in countries like america which have a lot of power
00:28:10.440 and can do a lot to scuttle especially a movement where your you know foot soldiers are going to
00:28:17.300 mass and these people control what's being said on those pulpits because you cannot move around
00:28:22.120 churches as easily as a catholic as you can as a protestant so if they ever decided to go
00:28:25.520 against this they absolutely could um this is actually really fascinating we were talking
00:28:31.060 with one of our catholic fans about this and they pointed out how you you don't go to like
00:28:34.840 the parish you like best of the catholic that's seen as like really bad and to prevent you from
00:28:39.040 performing too strong an attachment with any one preacher whatever they call it in consulism they
00:28:42.880 switch them out regularly like if one becomes too popular or as it was protestants you typically go
00:28:47.060 wherever is most popular for you which at the end of the day gives the vatican ultimate control over
00:28:51.700 what's happening even at a local level but the point i'm making here is there actually isn't
00:28:56.880 ideologically like in terms of anything they want in the moment any particularly large point of
00:29:05.060 conflict between the modern far leftist the islamist and the griper like they're all
00:29:11.480 completely on message on team in regards to what they want to see accomplished which i think is
00:29:17.420 really interesting thoughts before i go further saman this is more sobering than i thought it would
00:29:23.540 be yeah by the way if you want to understand like what they're saying so this is judas butler
00:29:30.400 by the way at uc berkeley and this was about israel and hezbollah right so judas butler is
00:29:36.000 like leftist icon right yeah yes understanding hamas hezbollah as social movements that are
00:29:41.980 progressives that are left that are part of the global left is extremely important this does not
00:29:47.300 stop us from being critical of certain dimensions of both movements it doesn't stop those of us who
00:29:52.120 are interested in nonviolent politics from raising the question of whether there are other options
00:29:57.060 besides violence so again a critical important engagement sorry entanglement i mean i certainly
00:30:02.400 think it should be entered into the conversation on the left i similarly think that boycotts and
00:30:06.720 divestment procedures are again an essential component of the resistance movement so very
00:30:12.500 very pro this stuff and and note they have been in the past so here i'm gonna go over richard
00:30:16.720 falk a princeton professor of international law who met with khamenei during his exile outside of
00:30:21.560 paris and this was the evaluation he offered of khamenei in the new york times by the way so
00:30:27.840 mainstream leftist publications keep in mind this is the guy who ended up mass executing all the
00:30:32.400 leftists who supported him in his country right just so you understand how little this matters
00:30:36.560 to them and the left just does not care that this happened it does when you try to bring this up with
00:30:41.780 them you are losing because they don't care that they persecute people like them it is irrelevant
00:30:48.660 to their world perspective. So to continue, he wrote, to suppose that Ayatollah Khomeini is
00:30:54.640 dissembling seems almost beyond belief. His political style is to express his real views
00:30:59.920 defiantly and without apology, regardless of consequences. He has little incentive suddenly
00:31:05.140 to become devious for the sake of American public opinion. Thus, the deception of him as a fanatical
00:31:10.680 reactionary and a bearer of crude prejudices seems certainly and happily false. What is encouraging
00:31:16.780 is that his entourage of close advisors is uniformly composed of moderate progressive
00:31:22.160 individuals but they both mean this and do not care that it is not true once it is proven not
00:31:32.300 true because they do not care when people are killed and i think that that's fundamentally the
00:31:38.400 most important thing to note about this to them people being killed are just like score cards for
00:31:43.840 their larger system and if you come into an argument with them focused on the people being
00:31:50.860 killed they won't care if you go into an argument with them like what actually happens for civilization
00:31:56.180 right like 100 years 200 years if these groups gain power they don't care and this is why you 0.83
00:32:03.520 know when you point out things like well if you shut down the ai center right like this is going
00:32:07.460 to have enormous economic consequences and groups that like we have social policies and social 1.00
00:32:12.740 values that you would hugely disagree with like the ccp although they don't seem to be aware that 0.88
00:32:17.420 like the ccp is anti-gay as well much more anti-gay than the united states the the anti a lot 0.53
00:32:23.060 of the things but but again they don't care about anti-gay because anti-gay doesn't matter what
00:32:25.900 matters is the trans agenda right at this point but this is again where i think it makes sense
00:32:31.220 for conservatives to ally with gays where we can even if we can say well we disagree with your
00:32:34.920 lifestyle we won't in law in institution prevent you from living it i i think that that's an easy
00:32:42.620 compromise that we can make and get a large faction on team that has been abandoned by the
00:32:48.240 left and is if i'm honest disproportionately productive if you look at i i don't know why 0.95
00:32:55.760 this is the case but if you look at top designers top chefs top a lot of things they're often gay
00:33:01.840 males they're they're pretty good at design and influence so if you want to win the entertainment
00:33:07.140 war, preventing gay males from working on team is, is, is not a really bad, not a really great 0.91
00:33:14.460 strategy. And I think that this, what I have been incredibly heartened about in sort of like where 1.00
00:33:20.380 all this is going, because yeah, you can say this is really sad, is that the wider movement really
00:33:25.380 seems to be shaping out the way I predicted it would shape out. And I mean, it was wild when I
00:33:30.500 first sort of made these predictions or was thinking about this is that the Groyper faction 0.89
00:33:35.280 has moved to solidly form with this leftist alliance right like they just want to tear down 0.66
00:33:41.520 society you know and and stick it to the jews and they don't really care about anything else that 0.86
00:33:45.840 happens whereas the part of the right like the stodgy old right they still have voting power 0.80
00:33:52.680 but they don't really have any control within institutions like within the administration or
00:33:56.560 anything like that yeah and they they vote and whatever they'll eventually die off a lot of their
00:34:02.380 streamers and stuff like that used to have relevance but they've gotten a lot smaller
00:34:05.940 we've done a number of videos on like what's the real size of a lot of these people
00:34:09.480 and then in terms of the the tech right which is our site and people will say well that's not even
00:34:16.420 right wing like when people strongly insert that asthma gold is not right wing i'm like he is the
00:34:21.720 very heart of what is the modern right uh like that's literally like cutting out someone's heart
00:34:27.920 being like this isn't brad it's like whoa put that back in there buddy that's like the core
00:34:33.120 of brad well i mean in terms of the new right sort of media ecosystem it it comes downstream
00:34:39.440 of asmogold and note here if you look at like what does asmogold think about like forming a
00:34:46.400 coalition in which gays can be members but not necessarily like privileged members or something
00:34:50.820 like that or or we don't have to concede to their lifestyle or cheese their stuff you'd be like yeah
00:34:55.760 that's totally normal right and it's not just as much where you see this growth it's the entire
00:35:01.440 ecosystem from leaflet to rev to nux to clownfish tv to bearing to we're increasingly seeing
00:35:10.780 this wider ecosystem both become more cohesive in terms of a intellectual force and i think
00:35:22.720 develop a internal coherent philosophy that is more than just anti-wokeism and i think this
00:35:30.520 coherent philosophy we're actually seeing a lot more leaflet has done a good job i mean her brand
00:35:35.940 of like stellar humanism is so simple to understand yeah and so easy to be like what i care about is
00:35:42.900 long-term human flourishing and the conquering of you know our manifest destiny within space
00:35:50.700 yeah it's very elegant with its simplicity
00:35:53.020 the very simple very elegant everyone can just be like i don't care like when we have a disagreement
00:36:12.820 and the reason why that very simply framed philosophy is useful is it's like when we have
00:36:18.800 a disagreement we have this shared point of does it hurt long-term human potentiality does it limit
00:36:26.840 long-term human potential exactly and so you know whether it's a religious disagreement or whether
00:36:31.700 it's a disagreement on strategy or whether it's a disagreement on economic policy it doesn't fall
00:36:38.040 down into this standard because in the writer like new right coalition we have very diverse
00:36:45.120 perspectives as we put i mean like shoe on head is very clearly in the coalition and kami mommy
00:36:49.920 right and for people who weren't sure about her i mean she did a stream with smuggalana okay like
00:36:55.900 in terms of like the vtuber where you know you got your kirsch's your smuggalana's your
00:36:59.540 banana whatever her name is and then you've got the growth of which i think is going to be
00:37:03.920 increasingly important this is where i'm saying it the skybrow cinematic universe yeah i think
00:37:08.760 things like this the using ai entertainment as a cultural weapon in a society that has begun to
00:37:16.360 retreat from this is going to be so powerful for the next generation especially with kids and stuff
00:37:21.080 like that getting them involved in this stuff is going to be a really powerful way to sort of push
00:37:28.420 things forward and the other thing i like about stellar humanism is it removes all of the dogmatism
00:37:32.460 of the right like the right doesn't have to follow like all it's just the people who care about what
00:37:36.880 is actually true and want thriving and western civilization seems like the correct way to win
00:37:42.440 if that's what you care about so all of these people care about western civilization not out
00:37:47.120 of a love of western you can love western civilization for its own sake and be part
00:37:51.220 of the coalition but you don't have to which i like yeah well but i'm also seeing from what
00:37:56.100 you're saying what scares me maybe more on the left isn't this interest in taking things down
00:38:02.660 and breaking even what scares me even more is this intentional blindness to the negative
00:38:10.440 ramifications or harm done uh almost like you know they're muckles and the harm done is magic
00:38:16.280 like they just can't see it they're it's not even like an unwillingness to see it it doesn't process
00:38:21.820 it doesn't register and that is completely irrelevant from their moral calculations
00:38:28.740 because i don't know i don't know i feel like there's something deeper there that it's not
00:38:34.120 just about irrelevance but like some inability to see or recognize it or acknowledge it no it
00:38:40.980 has to do with how they process reality so i can go to a leftist and i can say you know hamas is
00:38:47.400 putting its terror centers under hospitals and schools and and they can say well yeah i understand 0.56
00:38:55.440 that that's why israel is bombing them but israel shouldn't bond them and i say well okay we'll 0.72
00:38:59.440 think two steps ahead if israel stops bombing a hospital every time they put their network under
00:39:06.480 a hospital they're going to put their networks under hospitals disproportionately like exclusively 0.90
00:39:11.460 going forwards which further puts those people in harm way right and allows their force to grow
00:39:17.840 which is provably victimizing their own population you know as we saw after israel's withdrawal like 0.86
00:39:22.200 executing people on the streets and stuff like that right yeah they victimize their own people 0.55
00:39:25.940 much harder than the idf did and it's it's this second order narrative is not relevant from sort
00:39:34.420 of a pain calculation to them because they only care about pain in a narrative context like how
00:39:40.700 do they strongly paint themselves as the good guys in a world with this oppressor versus oppressed
00:39:47.640 framing like that's the way all of society is structured everyone needs to be categorized this
00:39:52.680 way and and they don't really think beyond that this is like the average street level foot soldier
00:39:59.140 if you're thinking of the higher ups like the people who are like the actual intellectuals in
00:40:04.080 the movement they fundamentally just don't care like the higher ups want a destruction of
00:40:08.140 civilization or what we would call western civilization and they understand that that's 0.84
00:40:12.480 going to come with death right like this is where the you know kill nazis everything like this they 0.85
00:40:16.320 know they're talking about average everyday conservatives they just don't care 0.95
00:40:19.280 well i i don't want to say i hope that's the case i i'm more afraid of what i think is more real
00:40:29.280 which is a blindness because a profoundly higher level of death and destruction and pain and that
00:40:37.680 really scares me well i mean it's coming right like that's where society is heading with current 0.93
00:40:43.540 immigration rates in Europe with the current cultural movement we see in Europe and potentially
00:40:48.300 within the United States. You know, like if, for example, I took a position as president or of a
00:40:54.600 political party that I was influential with, we would be dramatically more aggressive than Trump
00:40:59.280 is being right now in terms of how we handled citizenship and how we handled communities that
00:41:06.620 had already gotten hooks into America in a way that was just deleterious. Presumably just in
00:41:12.240 enforcing our laws. Well, I mean, that's where they're trying to go right now, right? But I
00:41:19.980 think we need new and stricter laws, frankly. I think there could be laws about, here's an easy
00:41:28.340 law, right? If you become a citizen of the United States and you ever go on any form of government
00:41:35.200 assistance, I think you should lose your citizenship if you became a citizen within that
00:41:38.600 lifetime right like we've talked about right to vote at very least right to vote no no i just
00:41:43.240 think you you lose your citizenship you get removed if you're not i disagree i mean there
00:41:47.700 there are times in everyone's life including right and there are times in everyone's life
00:41:53.300 when they do not require government assistance when that happens to them if they have a healthy
00:41:57.940 community that supports them if they have healthy religious institutions that support them
00:42:01.520 um and as many immigrant groups used to have and they become destitute during a part or they lose 0.99
00:42:07.480 their job at part i am okay with them staying in the country so long as they don't try to get 0.99
00:42:12.240 government assistance it is the attempting to get government assistance that i think that should be
00:42:16.740 the disqualifying and maybe even make it so you would just eliminate government assistance then
00:42:21.780 well i guess it's a better way to do it because i want to be able to use it to remove them so
00:42:26.120 if you're on it for let's say two years and you don't shut it down before then you immediately
00:42:31.300 get put on a deport list i think that that's an easy way to handle it i also think that any of
00:42:35.440 them that commit a crime any crime no matter how small immediate deportation and i think that this
00:42:41.100 can go to financial crimes anything tied to fraud especially about the government like this stuff
00:42:45.920 we should be or deportation with some form of review right you know you could say that right
00:42:51.940 so basically if it appears that they are culturally assimilating you keep them if it does not appear
00:42:56.500 they're culturally assimilating you deport them i suppose i mean i mean it's it's complicated right
00:43:02.960 Like you could have a system like that be abused by people who create trumped up charges to try to get rid of people who are business competitors or in other forms, inconvenient to them, even if they.
00:43:17.820 Right. But I think the social harm of that is significantly lower than the social harm of allowing in large groups that are exploiting the system.
00:43:26.080 So, like, I understand that you can't get negative externalities from implementing anything.
00:43:30.340 yeah the negative externalities of that are a lot less than the negative externalities of the
00:43:34.500 amount of fraud that our social safety nets are under are under right now isn't going to the most
00:43:40.380 vulnerable people in our society like that's who suffers from this fraud yeah but i mean you know
00:43:48.260 you would have to moderate the rule that you're proposing here because we can't support vulnerable 0.99
00:43:53.340 people in society if anyone's we support gets deported no i said i said if they are an immigrant
00:44:00.580 oh well i don't know it's just easier to have a rule of like you can stay in the country as
00:44:06.380 an immigrant if you are a net taxpayer yeah that's harder to calculate i mean you can do it if you
00:44:14.280 want to try to calculate that simone apparently you love making well we're speaking in hypotheticals
00:44:19.220 here so yeah we could also presumably simplify the tax code it's way easier to just say if they pay
00:44:26.680 if they go on government services yeah i guess you're right exploit government services so
00:44:31.500 anyway interesting conversation any final thoughts this was interesting this was scary that is all i
00:44:38.480 have to say all right now excited for the next one i love you love you too the first thing i do
00:44:44.460 to try to get out of bed in the morning is put on like i just open youtube and i see what the
00:44:49.000 algo has for me he said it'll help wake me up and typically it's like asthma gold or something else
00:44:53.440 watch routinely but this morning it was some video about like it had like almost a million views and
00:44:59.720 it had just been published about the gen alpha melody it was a fascinating like little just like
00:45:04.880 did you know about this thing and there are hundreds of songs that have come out that have
00:45:12.560 the same broad melody and it's kind of incredible how pervasive it is and i just didn't realize it
00:45:17.660 until he put all of them together it's really interesting stuff and the first one of the
00:45:25.360 earliest versions where you can find it is lady gaga's bad romance that's the melody the gen alpha
00:45:32.840 melody which you also just you see it everywhere all music genres all languages western eastern
00:45:40.600 it doesn't matter south korean k-pop random russian songs really really fascinating and i
00:45:49.960 just love that there are random people out there to explain things like this to me all right and
00:45:56.240 to talk about them and how they rise and why they exist like we have youtube now remember we had to
00:46:01.720 look things up in like the encyclopedia do you remember did you have those cd-roms of encyclopedia
00:46:07.440 britannica do you remember the opening sequence on them it was such a thing oh my god anyway i'll
00:46:14.900 get started yeah go ahead i did it it means four batteries wow that's a lot are any of the
00:46:26.960 batteries in incorrectly is that maybe why he's not turning on have you checked take a look make
00:46:33.040 sure they're all in right, Toasty. Can you check? You're our quality control man.
00:46:36.220 No, I know what batteries are. I know what batteries are. Let Toasty check Octavian. He's
00:46:43.500 our quality control man. Oh, you look. Take out this one and take out this one. And then
00:46:51.860 I'll do, and then I'll do that, and then I'll do this one.
00:46:59.020 How can I get the buttoning?
00:47:03.340 Oh.
00:47:10.520 Can you just let me hold that?
00:47:13.100 That's so nice.
00:47:14.100 How can I get these other sounds?
00:47:18.340 If you press on the side opposite the spring,
00:47:21.220 you can kind of push it out using the tension from the spring.