Based Camp - October 25, 2024


Why is Kamala Bleeding Minority Voters? (Black, Hispanic, Arab, & Asian)


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

174.12952

Word Count

8,650

Sentence Count

625

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

52


Summary

In this episode, Simone and I discuss the growing trend of young Black voters turning to the Republican Party, and why this might be a problem for the Democratic Party. We discuss why this is happening, and what it means for the future of American politics.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be talking about
00:00:03.660 a phenomenon this election cycle where ethnic minorities have been moving very quickly more
00:00:12.020 and more to voting Republican, specifically in the changeover from the Biden running for office
00:00:19.120 to the Kamala running for office, which is really interesting to me because I think a lot of people
00:00:25.200 would assume, oh, now we've got a multiracial, a Black Indian woman who's voting for office.
00:00:32.680 Obviously, she'll get more, like Obama did, more of the Black vote to show up than historically did.
00:00:38.680 And yet we are seeing the exact opposite and not just the Black vote, but basically across the board.
00:00:44.360 Wasn't that the turn for our polling station? We know a shorter route to our Democratic
00:00:50.640 polling station. You know how us Democrats like a shortcut, like government spending to prop up
00:00:55.660 the economy. Nothing more we love than those federal programs. You two are Democrats, aren't
00:01:00.300 you? What? Of course we are. You see the color of our skin, don't you? How could we not blindly vote
00:01:05.640 Democratic? Would you like to know more? So we are, one, going to go over the numbers for each ethnic
00:01:10.420 group. We're going to go over what might be causing this, and we are going to go over what this means
00:01:15.400 for the future of American politics. That is so cool. Let's do this.
00:01:22.680 So in the 2020 election, Biden won approximately 92% of the Black vote. Only 8% of the Black vote
00:01:28.780 didn't vote for Biden. That's insane. That is very impressive. Yeah. Current polling shows Hamill
00:01:34.780 leading Trump 78% to 15% among Black voters. Huge difference. Wow. 26% of Black men aged 18 to 40
00:01:46.540 said they would vote for Trump in the latest Gen Forward poll compared to 12% of Black women in the
00:01:52.840 same age group. This represents a major shift from 2020. And if you look at the polls that I sent you,
00:01:59.920 so this is mostly happening in young Black men, we see a really interesting phenomenon.
00:02:06.120 Now people think that Black voters are a monolith. In fact, Black Republicans alone are an extremely
00:02:13.360 diverse group of people. Which is that with Black voters, unlike pretty much any other voter demographic
00:02:21.340 you're going to look at, the younger they are, and it's proportional to their age, the more pro-Republican
00:02:29.300 they are. And it is increasing with each generation here. So here we can look at two different polls.
00:02:37.380 One is looking at different age groups, and it asks them, please assess your feelings towards Donald
00:02:42.320 Trump on a scale from 0 to 10, where 0 is cold and 10 is very warm. And you see, of the very warm
00:02:51.360 category, if you look at Black voters over 65, it's only 4%. If you look at Black voters 18 to 29,
00:02:58.960 it's 29%. What is going on? And just so people can get an idea of what this looks like in sort of a
00:03:07.340 tiered way, it's 4% for the 65 plus. To the 45, 64, it's 10%. For the 30, 44, it's 19%. And then,
00:03:18.700 you know, for the last group, it's 29%. And you see the same thing in terms of the number who feel neutral
00:03:24.620 to him, it's significantly increasing over time. With the young age group, it's 41% feel neutral to
00:03:31.780 him. Only 7% in the oldest age group. And in the youngest age group, only 28% have a cold opinion
00:03:42.060 of him, while 87% of the oldest age group do. Isn't that why? And this is increasing still with
00:03:51.780 every generation. So I would expect it to be more of the next generation, more of the next generation,
00:03:55.540 more of the next generation. Yeah, which is tempered, I guess, by young voter turnout being lower.
00:04:01.020 But that's still very impressive. Well, it does mean a permanent political shift. And-
00:04:06.400 Yes. Let's go to this next poll here. How welcoming do you think the Republican Party
00:04:13.400 is to Black people? And again, you have the exact same thing. If you're looking at not welcoming
00:04:19.820 at all, it's 57% of the 65 plus group. But of the under 29 group, that's only 17% who have that
00:04:26.660 perception. And if you look at the extremely welcoming category, 3% of the over 65 group,
00:04:32.500 11% of the 18 to 29 group. Wow. That's great. Yeah. Well, and if you look at somewhat welcoming
00:04:40.740 in the old age group, it's only 7%. In the young age group, it's 31%. Well, I mean, is this part of
00:04:48.660 the whole youth political divide between women and men, whereby men are just getting increasingly
00:04:53.680 conservative and women are getting less? And could it be that women, to a certain extent, are even just
00:04:59.880 shoving men into a more conservative position through their mental and cultural toxicity?
00:05:08.120 I think it is. So I watched a bunch of interviews with Black individuals on why they're voting for
00:05:13.960 Trump. So I could say, you know, from my perception, I'd say, well, I assume that the racist way that
00:05:19.680 Democrats keep talking about ethnic minorities is probably a pretty big play here. Like when
00:05:25.240 Hope Not Hate was talking to us, they go, you say you support exceptional people having more kids
00:05:30.800 in secret, but on your website, you say you support Hispanics having more kids. And I was like,
00:05:36.980 I don't see a contradiction there. Why do you see a contradiction there? Or Obama's recent thing,
00:05:43.040 when Black voters, he goes, he's like, well, we have a huge problem with young male Black voters,
00:05:47.800 and it's because they won't vote for a woman. You know, they're very misogynistic.
00:05:50.880 And I was like, that seems like a very racist opinion, and not at all what I've seen anyone
00:05:55.780 say. And so I think part of it is this increasingly racist attitude, you know, if you don't vote for
00:06:02.240 me, you ain't Black, like this stealing of the Black identity, and then removing anyone. Like,
00:06:07.860 imagine you felt that way. Like, people said to you, you couldn't identify as whatever your
00:06:14.440 core, like ethnic or whatever identity was, because you didn't hold ex-political positions,
00:06:19.340 which is what they're always saying. Like, whenever, you know, there's a famous Black
00:06:23.100 Republican or something like that, they're like, well, they don't really count as Black,
00:06:26.220 culturally speaking.
00:06:27.320 Here's what's so interesting, though, is that I'm picking up on this for another episode.
00:06:32.740 Right now, I'm trying to do research on what Black Lives Matter as an organization raised,
00:06:38.780 and what they did with that money. And one of the things that I'm seeing they did in 2020,
00:06:43.080 sort of at their height, when they got the most attention, was create a PAC and try to influence
00:06:48.580 the vote. And they decided that one of the most important areas where they needed to exert pressure
00:06:53.200 was on Black male voters, because they felt that they had the lowest turnout and the lowest
00:06:59.600 engagement. So their work really focused on engaging them and getting them to vote.
00:07:04.280 But I feel like this very fact that there is this perception and I guess acknowledgement of lower
00:07:10.560 Black male voter engagement for obviously Democratic candidates and causes, maybe kind of indicates,
00:07:17.900 guys, maybe they aren't really on your side. Maybe they're not really Democrats. Maybe
00:07:24.140 something you're pitching to them isn't resonating. Maybe this whole trans free housing thing and
00:07:32.760 community work thing isn't really what they're into right now.
00:07:38.200 Yeah, well, so historically, when older Black voters would vote Republican,
00:07:41.920 the thing that drove them to do it was two things. One is, is that they didn't feel like the policies
00:07:47.760 were actually supporting the Black community. You know, this is what you have was like Clarence Thomas,
00:07:52.700 and you know, he's very anti things like affirmative action, because he felt it hurt the Black community,
00:07:57.560 right? And a lot of older Blacks would side was Republican sometimes, because they agreed with
00:08:04.220 them on social issues, whether it was, you know, being more resistant to LGBT stuff, whether it was,
00:08:11.160 which the Black community is generally not very pro, when contrasted with white voters, whether it was
00:08:16.360 being more conservative on abortion, whether it was being more conservative, it was on social issues.
00:08:21.180 What's very interesting is the shift in the Black community now among young Blacks to being more
00:08:28.620 Republican is not about being more conservative on social issues. It appears to be predominantly
00:08:35.860 twofold, one, or I'd say threefold. One, they feel like we've been trying this Democrat thing forever,
00:08:42.200 they don't actually seem to care about us, they never actually seem to do anything for us.
00:08:46.220 And it appears that the Republicans actually try when they get in office for us. And so that was one
00:08:51.740 thing. The second thing was they appear to be more fiscally conservative than previous generations,
00:08:57.920 and I'll run through some quotes here that seem to indicate this to me, but it appears that they're
00:09:01.760 mostly voting for Republicans, despite more conservative social policies, because they do not
00:09:10.120 believe in what the Democrats have done to the economy, or what the Democrats have given them
00:09:14.720 opportunities. And then the final category here that we see is they are voting more Republican
00:09:22.160 because, I can't remember the final point I had, but you were going to say something?
00:09:25.720 I think the thing is that Black men aren't interested in being someone's bitch. They're
00:09:29.960 interested in succeeding and excelling and being exceptional. And the problem is that even now,
00:09:37.000 as the Democrat Party is trying to cater to their interests, they're like, oh, don't worry,
00:09:42.760 we'll give you handouts and special treatment, and you'll be, you know, it's okay, you know, just like,
00:09:48.840 like, but they're being very condescending. And I think that's not, that's not how these people
00:09:55.080 identify. Like, these are, these are people who want, yeah, they want to start businesses. And I
00:10:00.120 think that that, you know, there's some attempt to cater to that, but they're like, oh, you know,
00:10:04.680 we'll give you loans that will forgive because we know you can't pay them off. Like, it's just so
00:10:09.260 insulting. It is deeply insulting. Like, I agree.
00:10:12.400 Like crypto, don't worry, we'll support it. Whereas like over here, Donald Trump is like,
00:10:17.040 here's my mean coin. I'm going to like pump and dump it. There was like, yeah, Trump, you do you,
00:10:21.360 you know, like, there's just a very different, but Trump gets it. Also, like when I look at,
00:10:29.840 like a lot of really popular, like primarily Black cast TV shows, or like, I guess you could say like
00:10:35.440 Black demographic targeted TV shows, I guess like some of them are like looking at lower economic
00:10:43.840 rungs to society, but a lot of them are just looking at extreme levels of wealth. Like it's
00:10:48.880 aspirational. And I think the other problem is that when the Democrat party caters to Black voters,
00:10:53.620 they're all about like, oh, poverty. And that's not aspirational. Like no one wants to vote for that.
00:10:59.180 And a lot of people complain about, oh, well, you know, poor, uneducated people vote for Republicans
00:11:05.080 and vote for low taxes because they expect to be rich someday. How pathetic. But I think that's
00:11:09.900 where a lot of us are. Do you remember the Biden gaffe where he's like, well, I want this policy to
00:11:14.240 work for both rich people and Black people. Come on! I did not. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that was one of his
00:11:19.700 gaffes. We have this notion that somehow if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright
00:11:26.060 and just as talented as white kids. Yeah, what a slip. I mean, that just shows like how they see,
00:11:31.580 how they see. And I think this goes back to our episode on how the leftists and Democrats in America
00:11:40.580 decided suddenly to hijack Black identity and be like, Black identity is now victim identity. And
00:11:47.100 we're going to save you. And we're going to take care of you. Whereas Black identity before was
00:11:51.720 enterprising. It was wealthy. And yes, it was often subject to insane bias and riots and their whole
00:11:58.140 communities being burnt down. But why were their communities being burnt down? Because white
00:12:02.180 people were jealous of their economic flourishing. OK, that's what happened in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
00:12:07.760 And this whole this whole concept of Black people are poor. Black people can't pay back their loans.
00:12:13.480 Black people need social handouts is so deeply insulting. And I think there's this this undercurrent,
00:12:18.860 especially among Black men who get it, who are not buying into that narrative, who are like,
00:12:23.880 yeah, like, screw this. Let's let's read some quotes from various Black people here when they
00:12:29.460 were being asked, why are they voting for Trump? And I think what you'll see is we here's one,
00:12:33.780 right? We want prosperity and we want secure borders and we want the American dream, Maxwell said.
00:12:40.080 And only the Republican Party is speaking to this message because they have the policies in terms of
00:12:45.600 limited government. Drill, baby, drill. And very.
00:12:48.800 I mean, that's someone who's speaking as an American. And I think that's the other thing is
00:12:53.640 that's it's it's someone who's not captured by identity politics, which is refreshing.
00:12:58.020 Well, very interesting. The drill, baby, drill slogan seems to be really popular among Black
00:13:03.580 conservatives. I haven't heard any white conservative use this slogan, this election
00:13:08.580 cycle. I heard it multiple times when I was watching videos of Black conservatives speaking on
00:13:12.640 the issues that they cared about. When I hear drill, baby, drill, I like see Sarah Palin. I don't like
00:13:17.760 it like, you know, it invokes. I think what it speaks to is this idea that regulations are keeping
00:13:24.940 their communities in poverty and that if you just went out and did like exploit our environment for
00:13:32.720 resources, people would have jobs again. Then another one, what a lot of them were saying is I
00:13:38.920 can't afford to. Another thing that a lot of them were saying when they were being interviewed is
00:13:42.080 basically I can't afford another four years of this. Like that is not realistic at all. But here
00:13:47.740 another one. Now, this is somebody who is a 20 year old who is voting for Democrats, but she was
00:13:54.060 noticing that a lot of her friends are voting for Republicans. And so in explaining, even as an
00:13:59.380 uncharitable person, why her friends are voting for Republicans, she says, the thing that I hear a lot
00:14:03.900 of is if a person is really conservative, they really like how the economics are handled by
00:14:08.920 Republicans. Usually with social issues, they tend to be more liberal, at least like my friends who
00:14:14.740 maybe are in the middle or leaning conservative, they'll be more liberal on social issues and more
00:14:19.540 conservative with economics, which is an inverse of the reason why blacks flipped parties before.
00:14:25.780 And I find that to be very, very interesting. And I think it does come down to what you're saying
00:14:31.660 here, which is the self-empowerment thing. But now let's talk about other ethnic groups because it is
00:14:36.260 across the board here. Yeah. So Rainey Center, which we're a fan of, had the biggest surprise for me
00:14:42.100 on the front of other demographics when they came out in September of this year with survey data
00:14:48.460 indicating that 30% of Muslims in America planned on voting for Trump.
00:14:54.360 Oh, then the numbers have changed since then. I haven't gotten to those numbers yet,
00:14:57.720 but actually now in 2020, Biden won Arab Americans by a 24 point margin. Current polling shows Trump
00:15:05.820 having tied with Harris among Arab Americans. It's both 40%.
00:15:10.120 Wow. Okay. So it's, wow. That's, and so that's good. One thing that I hear savvy political
00:15:15.780 commentators talk about a lot is it doesn't, you don't learn a whole lot by seeing what the static
00:15:22.260 poll numbers are. What matters more is what direction are things going in? And if that's happening,
00:15:28.680 what is going on?
00:15:30.120 That's a huge shift. No, we're going to, no, Simone, actually, before we go further,
00:15:34.000 you had some stuff you want to talk about with the Black Lives Matter thing. Like nobody watched
00:15:37.680 their video or like they didn't have that much cultural reach.
00:15:40.340 Well, I just, I need to get to the bottom of this more. This is for research. I'm doing that,
00:15:44.780 that other Black Lives Matter episode, but one of the big things when they raised a ton of money in
00:15:50.920 2020 was, oh my gosh, there's an election this year. We have to change the outcome of the election.
00:15:55.720 We're going to raise money for a super PAC. And in addition to trying to increase Black male voter
00:16:02.400 turnout and engagement, they commissioned a TV commercial, which they ran, apparently they paid
00:16:09.680 to run ads on it on social media, in addition to on TV. But then I checked their YouTube channel,
00:16:15.720 which has all of six subscribers and it has 1.1 K views. And I'm like, how is this even happening?
00:16:23.860 And I mean, I watched the video and it just. I sometimes wonder if that movement wasn't more
00:16:29.020 astroturfed than the public believes. Yeah, there's, there's a lot I want to dig into there
00:16:34.980 for sure. I mean, they regranted a lot, so I don't blame them for not necessarily doing a ton
00:16:40.160 internally with their own program, like fundraising, but they raised a lot for their PAC and they raised
00:16:44.640 in 2020 over $90 million. And they only regranted 23% of their assets, which is a lot for the industry,
00:16:52.660 which typically regrants about five to 8%. I think probably because they normally do stuff in
00:16:58.340 house, but yeah, even having raised 90 million and regranted 23%, you would expect them to do more.
00:17:06.220 And well, didn't they just spend it all on mansions? Okay. So like a lot of that happened
00:17:11.860 and we'll get to that in the episode, but what I was surprised with was just like the, the work they
00:17:16.640 were doing. They did get some admirable door knocking volunteer turnout. And I think that's because
00:17:21.520 there was so much energy in 2020 of people just saying, I want to do something. Like I am really
00:17:26.840 frustrated with the way that black Americans experience America right now. I'm not happy with
00:17:33.580 it. And so they got a lot of help there, but I was surprised by how flat their, their ad felt just
00:17:40.960 how flat it fell and, and how little engagement they seem to be giving. Interesting. Okay. Now, by the way,
00:17:46.740 to the Arab American things that we were talking about, how, how did it go from winning with a 24
00:17:52.520 point margin to equal votes? Well, yeah. And, and apparently from 30% now to 40%, this is, you
00:17:59.180 know, things are changing rapidly. Yeah. So the true thing appears to be that they are very,
00:18:03.900 very dissatisfied with how the Israeli Palestine issue is being handled by the Biden administration.
00:18:08.680 And they don't think that Harris has significantly distanced her stance from the administration.
00:18:13.400 And it's, it's for, for 29% of them, it's the primary issue. Now, I think a lot of people are
00:18:18.880 surprised then that they would move to Trump who might be seen as being even more pro-Israel than
00:18:23.780 the Biden administration. Right. But I think it's because they believe that Trump can actually get
00:18:28.560 things done in terms of creating some kind of a peaceful resolution because he's actually willing
00:18:34.700 to try and do stuff. Also like, look at how Trump is super chill and bro-y with a lot of like
00:18:39.860 different Islamic and, and yeah, he's very good at dealing with Muslim individuals.
00:18:44.880 Yeah. He's, he's like, he's, he's super Persian in his aesthetic. So I don't know. I kind of feel
00:18:50.900 there I have, I'm of two minds. One is, okay, there's Israel and he's, he's, he's down with Israel.
00:18:57.080 Right. But also he got more done in terms of Middle Eastern peace relations, working in concert.
00:19:02.260 You know why I think he does so well with that audience. And I think it's something that a lot
00:19:06.260 of people are discounting when they see Trump is that he, when he meets with these Arab kings often
00:19:15.940 who have all this money and all these fancy palaces and all these cool gadgets. Yeah. He
00:19:20.900 is genuinely impressed. He loves this sort of stuff and gets excited about it. Yeah. And for these types
00:19:29.820 of individuals, that is the highest compliment they can get to be showing the U S president around.
00:19:37.340 And the U S president is giddy at every new stupid gadget. They show him every new, are you picturing
00:19:45.100 the globe, the globe image, the globe where he's like, Oh, this is so cool. They're all touching it.
00:19:50.460 I feel like they're just all having this moment where they're like, guys, let's take a group picture.
00:19:54.140 You can just see they're like girls at a sleepover. It's amazing. Yeah. And I don't think that that's
00:19:58.700 something that Biden or Kamala has been able to connect with them on because they're too
00:20:03.900 reserved and trying to play whatever 40 games. No, it's not even that they're like,
00:20:10.140 they're, they're, they're prejudiced. They're elitist. They're, I don't know,
00:20:13.820 like racist or F F what's the ethnic version of racist or like cultural version of racist,
00:20:18.380 but they kind of cultural supremacists. They, these people are lesser than me.
00:20:23.180 My like Anglo waspy background. And yes, I am calling Kamala more Anglo and waspy because she,
00:20:28.460 she grew up in freaking Berkeley. Like he's a white NPR listening. Like she might as well be in a white
00:20:35.020 NPR listening reform Jew. I don't know how else to put it, but like, that's kind of the look,
00:20:39.260 you know, of like that Bay area Berkeley kind of person. And those people go to places like the
00:20:44.940 Middle East and they look down upon those cultures and Trump goes there and he's like,
00:20:49.020 I wish we could do that here. Like, man, you guys pull it out.
00:20:52.060 He said that once or something and everyone's like, well, you can't say that.
00:20:55.180 Yeah. So I, that is one thing. I think the other thing though, and this is something that I'm seeing
00:21:01.340 as a candidate for state rep on a more local level is that there are some people who are so vehemently
00:21:07.580 passionate about an image, an issue that if they feel like the person who should be their ally is not
00:21:13.900 fully 100% in conformity, in conformity with their desires, that they will vote for the other person
00:21:20.220 out of spite. So on the position, for example, of abortion, the fact that I have this middle ground
00:21:27.260 means that out of spite, some Republicans who are very, very, very anti-abortion are going to vote
00:21:36.540 for my democratic opponent who is even more pro-abortion than I am.
00:21:40.940 You won't vote for the restrict abortion access.
00:21:42.380 Yes.
00:21:43.100 It's not as much as they want.
00:21:44.460 Yes. So because I'm not as restrictive as they want me to be, they're going to vote for my opponent
00:21:51.820 out of spite. My opponent who is not in favor of more restrictions, whereas I am. And I think that
00:21:58.540 that might be the other thing that's going on is just the fact that the would be Palestinian ally is
00:22:05.100 not sufficiently saying that we have to, you know, from the river to the sea. And she's not saying this
00:22:10.460 every time she stands in front of an audience after giving her land acknowledgements, that that
00:22:15.900 means that they're not going to vote for her. That honestly, it's the weirdest thing. It does not
00:22:21.020 make any sense, but I do think that it is happening because I am seeing it myself.
00:22:25.340 Yeah, I could 100% see that. I will note when people are like, how pro-Israel is Trump?
00:22:30.460 If you forgot, when I was in Israel the last time I was there, it was during the Trump administration,
00:22:35.500 and there were all these threats because Trump had moved the US embassy back into Jerusalem,
00:22:41.660 right? Yeah. And everyone was like, oh my God, you can't do that. Like we were supposed to have
00:22:45.740 removed our embassy. And he's like, no, I'm not going to do it. Build an embassy.
00:22:49.340 And Ian Kushner got more done in the, in the Middle East than, than anyone, anyone,
00:22:53.820 everyone knows they were incredibly successful there. So, and then the, the, to understand how much
00:22:58.780 Israel loves Trump. I remember when I'd walk around the city at night, there were big like
00:23:04.700 skyscrapers that had Trump's face projected on them. That was how, how in love like Israel was
00:23:12.220 with Trump during at least the period when I was walking around there. So they are Trump like them,
00:23:18.700 and they like him. And yet the Middle Eastern is like, yeah, I just won't. I also think the other
00:23:23.340 thing that you mentioned there, and I've mentioned this before, I think culturally he connects with them.
00:23:26.700 A lot of the Arab Americans are Persian Arab Americans and Persians are like,
00:23:32.780 Trump culturally is much more Persian than he is waspy. He's not even, I mean, he's only waspy
00:23:38.700 and so far as he wears like American flag colored. Yeah. If you look at, if you look at like his house,
00:23:44.540 like it would be considered garish by most like waspy Americans. The only houses I've ever seen look
00:23:51.740 like that are either maybe Persian Americans, maybe Armenian Americans, but mostly it's like
00:23:59.740 more Persian-y, but again, similar regions there. All right. So next group we're going to be talking
00:24:04.940 about here, the Hispanic American voter. Oh, goodness. These individuals in 2020,
00:24:10.380 Biden won about 63% of Hispanic voters. By the way, I don't think- Which is surprising to me.
00:24:14.700 In 2020, I would expect fewer because so many of our Hispanic friends were like really, really,
00:24:19.180 really angry about the Democratic Party's treatment of many Latino neighborhoods during all the protests.
00:24:25.500 Simone, that's not that much. 63% of the Hispanic vote?
00:24:28.460 Come on. That's still too much. They act like it's a locked down thing. That's almost half. And now,
00:24:34.860 where are we? Kamala is leading. Trump was 56%. Okay. So again, that, that direction,
00:24:42.060 directionality is, is definitely in favor of Republican parties. And 44% of Latino men, 18 to 40,
00:24:49.660 said they would vote for Trump up from 38% in 2020. So you're seeing a dramatic rise here.
00:24:56.860 And Pew Research Center found that Trump gained 10 percentage points among Hispanic voters from
00:25:02.380 2016 to 2020. So it's a continuing trend as well. So we're going from 2020 to 2024. That to me is,
00:25:09.980 I think, the biggest thing. And that's how Florida, if anyone's been looking at like maps recently of
00:25:15.500 like where states are likely to go, that's why Florida is not a swing state anymore. Florida became
00:25:21.180 a solid red state because the Hispanic vote moved to a split. As to why it moved to a split. Again,
00:25:29.100 this is the ethnic community that we are closest with, which is why I was most offended by the hope
00:25:34.300 not hates, incredibly racist accusation that there's no exceptional Hispanic people, but not believe.
00:25:40.700 Well, uh, but anyway, so yeah, we're, we're very close with Hispanic people in Hispanic culture and
00:25:47.260 they engage with information. I mentioned this before, so I'll be fairly quick about it. Very
00:25:51.180 different from other cultural groups in America, meaning they mostly exchange information through
00:25:55.500 family networks and not through like news sites and stuff like that that they'll see with more
00:25:59.660 suspicion. A lot of Hispanic individuals are business owners and it was their businesses that were
00:26:05.980 disproportionately torched during the BLM riots because they were the ones on the
00:26:10.460 outskirts of those black communities. And when the government, when the Democrats did nothing,
00:26:15.260 when they didn't denounce the riots, when they didn't, when they, you know, like Tim Waltz's wife,
00:26:20.540 who opened the window to smell the businesses burning during the BLM riots, those were mostly Hispanic
00:26:27.100 minority owned businesses that were burning that she wasn't going to smell.
00:26:30.620 You're also missing a really, I think we should address a really key issue as well, which is a
00:26:35.980 very hot topic in the United States and so many other nations right now, immigration.
00:26:40.460 And I think a lot of Democrats are like, well, of course, Hispanics want open borders. No,
00:26:46.460 they don't. They, you know, those who immigrated or first generation immigrants went through so much
00:26:53.260 shit to get into the country. They busted their asses. They paid thousands and thousands of dollars
00:26:58.780 to immigration lawyers. They spent years on wait lists. They went through tons of bureaucratic hoops.
00:27:03.900 And suddenly all these people are coming through this porous border and getting us like random
00:27:09.420 support and get out of jail free cards. They're pissed.
00:27:12.460 It's not just that, but Hispanics don't see themselves. Like if you actually are friends
00:27:17.020 with real Hispanics and not this insane, like if you're not going to say something offensive like
00:27:21.180 Latin X, which of course is usually offensive to most Hispanic communities, you would know that
00:27:26.220 Hispanics don't see themselves as a unified ethnic group. They see themselves as, you know, as Mexican
00:27:33.980 or as Brazilian or as Peruvian or as Costa Rican. And many of these groups have an incredible amount of,
00:27:45.180 I don't know, of racism is the right word, but a degree of prejudice against other Hispanic groups.
00:27:52.060 You know, a Hispanic Mexican, for example, is going to often think very disparagingly
00:27:57.980 about, for example, maybe a Venezuelan immigrant or something like that. Right. And so when Democrats
00:28:03.500 think because they are supporting immigration, that they are earning goodwill across the Hispanic
00:28:09.340 community, they're just wrong about this monolith. Yeah. Well, and also like treating, you know,
00:28:16.300 first generation, second generation and third generation immigrants from Central or South
00:28:22.460 America, as though they're the same as like potential refugees or something who are coming
00:28:28.780 into it. It's just, it's insane. It's unhinged. And I think it would, it would majorly piss me off.
00:28:35.340 I can understand why it would alienate many other voters. That said, we do have plenty of
00:28:40.860 of like broadly Latin American friends who are huge supporters of Kamala Harris. So it's not,
00:28:47.260 you know, they're not. What's interesting to me is when they are supporters of Kamala Harris,
00:28:51.820 they are not supporters of her in the, I support her because she supports immigration way.
00:28:58.860 They're supporters of her. We sell travel to various ethnic groups and we have a lot of travel sales in
00:29:04.940 Latin America. One of the things that sells very well to the Latin American audience,
00:29:09.900 I'd say is the cliche beach, Instagram picture vacation, which is the vacation that gets you on
00:29:16.860 a nice looking beach where you can take Instagram pictures with pretty ladies and post that. And
00:29:22.620 this to me as a vacation is more to fun. This style of vacation does not sell well,
00:29:30.220 often within white ethnic groups, unless you're talking like college kids or something.
00:29:34.780 I think that their support of Kamala makes feels very much to me, like the classic beach vacation
00:29:43.020 package, because it's like what you're supposed to support if you're like a, you know, yeah,
00:29:49.900 if you're a good, cool person on social media.
00:29:51.980 Just basically saying anyone who's basic or who's more conformist in broad America,
00:29:58.060 mainstream media culture is probably more. Yeah. Because, because you are evil per mainstream
00:30:04.940 American culture. Actually, I would argue that the trend that I see more commonly is just culturally,
00:30:11.660 if you're a more empathetic person, that is to say that, you know, things pull at your heartstrings
00:30:17.100 more, you are more likely to vote for Kamala and have a really difficult time stomaching Trump.
00:30:22.140 I think that there is a portion of the Hispanic community that is aspirationally basic.
00:30:28.700 And I think that that is where the Dems have the best.
00:30:32.460 Okay. So you're going to say that the live, laugh, love Latinos are voting for Kamala.
00:30:35.500 Yes, the live, laugh, love Latinos. That is the category voting for Kamala. Well,
00:30:40.380 no, I mean, among especially Latino women, that's a big category. It's not like a small group,
00:30:46.860 but basically over time, I expect some degree of Democrat erosion was in the Latino community.
00:30:54.700 However, I think something that's really important to remember, if you look at the
00:30:57.980 El Norte cultural region of the US, which is the high immigrant cultural region, it's actually the
00:31:02.940 key voter base of the current Democratic Party, not the Northeast, as many people assume. If you look
00:31:08.380 at voting patterns in the same way that the greater Appalachia is a key voter base of Trump.
00:31:12.540 And I think that, and not in the deep South, like many people presume. And I think that we will,
00:31:19.100 you know, previously I was like, before I looked at the Catholic statistics, I was like, I think that
00:31:24.380 we will eventually convert the Hispanic population to being more conservative leaning. Now, I no longer
00:31:31.180 think that if you look at the percent Catholic of a district in the United States, that is one of the
00:31:37.180 like highest correlates we have found to how likely they are to be Democratic voting.
00:31:41.500 Catholic, they're just very Democratic voting. It's sort of like the party of Catholics.
00:31:46.060 And so, so long as they stay Catholic, I don't think we're going to be able to ever really flip
00:31:51.660 those districts that they're disproportionately immigrating into. That said, we have seen a lot
00:31:56.620 of conversions to Protestantism was in the first generation Latin American community.
00:32:01.100 Really? I haven't, I'm not familiar with that.
00:32:03.820 Yeah, it's been a huge thing in the data. Yeah, huge. They're, they're converting. I think it's like
00:32:07.500 the number one source of new evangelicals.
00:32:09.740 God, Catholic church, get your act together.
00:32:13.180 Well, it's, it's the fun side. It's like in Madagascar.
00:32:17.420 Catholicism can be fun. Catholicism can be so fun. You get to sin and then just confess.
00:32:24.940 You know what I mean? Like, come on. All right. So next group, Asian Americans.
00:32:32.380 In 2020, 54% of Asian American voters intended to vote for Joe Biden. While in 2024, 46% said they
00:32:40.780 were inclined to vote for Harris. So again, about a 10% loss, eight percentage point decrease.
00:32:45.740 Emerging.
00:32:47.980 Biden won Asian American voters by a margin of 72 to 28%. Current polling shows Harris at 66 to 28%.
00:32:57.420 So just huge loss across the board in every ethnic group. And I think that there's different reasons
00:33:04.940 for each group, but I think that we will continue to see this shift as time goes on.
00:33:09.180 I think the one, the one place where Harris is incredibly strong is just white women.
00:33:18.220 And well, I think live black love is the only community that she's strong.
00:33:22.380 And they are very conscientious voter base. So I think that it's not, it wouldn't be a bad one to have
00:33:29.500 in the bag. But even when I look, for example, at the Kamala Harris opportunity agenda for black men,
00:33:37.820 when I reviewed that again, I'm like, this isn't, this isn't for black men. This is for white women.
00:33:45.580 Tell me what it is. What did they offer?
00:33:47.180 So the, the opportunity agenda for black men is a policy initiative aimed at addressing economic
00:33:55.260 and social challenges faced by black men in the United States. Just that framing alone,
00:34:00.460 like in the sort of premise of presenting, this is emasculating and insulting to black men in America.
00:34:06.220 Like you need extra help, don't you? But I think it's really there for dealing.
00:34:12.940 So in terms of economic empowerment, and this is also where it just gets so ridiculous and insulting.
00:34:19.820 The agenda proposes to provide up to 1 million forgivable loans up to 20,000 each for black
00:34:26.860 entrepreneurs who have, you know, historically.
00:34:29.500 I love the dims that are like, Elon Musk is giving out money to people like this is a,
00:34:34.860 you can't do that. And meanwhile, Kamala Harris is like, yeah, I'm going to give out money if I win.
00:34:38.620 Well, I mean, but legal experts argue that policies, just distributing resources based on race could
00:34:44.220 face significant constitutional challenges and, and programs that provide preferences based on race
00:34:49.820 have been struck down in court previously, like disaster release programs, relief programs.
00:34:54.940 So the problem here too. And I think any, like, if I were a black business owner who could potentially
00:35:01.660 benefit from one of these loans, I'd be like, okay, great, but you're just going to waste my time
00:35:06.620 on a loan application. That's going to take forever to process. And then it's going to be rejected and
00:35:11.420 seen as constitutionally illegitimate because it is like, you can't just give away a whole bunch of
00:35:18.620 money to a group based on their racial identity. That's insane.
00:35:23.980 This was actually really interesting. When I heard some black people explaining why they're not going
00:35:28.540 to vote for Kamala, they were really annoyed by her plan to give out like free money for housing.
00:35:36.380 That like their first, first time homeowners, they were like, okay, either this just isn't going to happen.
00:35:42.380 And even if it does happen, how is this fair?
00:35:45.100 Like you're referring to the element of this initiative where by the administration would
00:35:51.580 offer $25,000 in down payment assistance to first time home buyers.
00:35:56.860 Yeah. They're like, we've heard this lie before. And even if it goes through,
00:36:00.700 I own my home. What about me? Are they going to give me $20,000?
00:36:04.300 Yeah. And it's kind of like student loan forgiveness. We're like, oh, so I,
00:36:07.340 I paid off my student loan. Fuck me. I guess like, sorry for being conscientious.
00:36:12.300 It just sends so many bad messages. It's like a party. It's like, it sort of is like,
00:36:16.540 we're a party that helps parasites. If you live your life as parasitically as possible,
00:36:21.820 then we will benefit you more. But I also, I just, I feel like it's really insulting. And
00:36:27.980 I don't know, like a common element that I see among like, just we'll say like black characters in
00:36:35.100 media who I see receiving widespread admiration is that these are proud, very strong, very competent
00:36:43.660 people. And this image of black men that is being painted by the Harris administration
00:36:49.820 is of needy, incompetent victims.
00:36:56.380 And Obama, it's like savage men who can like barely contain.
00:37:02.220 Yeah. Insecure, like backwards, savage, incompetent victims, like just the worst.
00:37:11.020 But it's just like when the FAA said, well, we need to hire black, more, more black people,
00:37:15.260 but we can't explicitly do it. So we'll just put on tests and we'll hire people who have problems
00:37:19.500 with authority, hate science was their least favorite class in school and don't take directions.
00:37:25.180 Well, it's like they literally think of black people in these racial stereotypes.
00:37:30.140 Well, yeah. Also, I mean, back to the, the, the agenda that part of that, that specific agenda for
00:37:37.100 black men, not just for Americans, but for black men specifically is proposing the legalization of
00:37:43.020 marijuana at the federal level, because, you know, weed's a black person thing. Like,
00:37:48.860 I mean, they're just, there's so many things that are like when BLM was like, oh, well,
00:37:55.100 don't you know that we need to support the dissolution of the nuclear family? Because
00:38:00.700 that's a black person thing. And then we point out that if you go to the 1960s, black families
00:38:07.260 actually had much stronger marriage relationships. You can watch our black episode on this and actually
00:38:11.980 had black women were less than half as likely as white women to be out of wedlock. And they had
00:38:18.700 children out of wedlock at less than half the rate of white people. Now it's, what is it? 70% of,
00:38:25.340 of black kids are born out of wedlock, I think at this point, but it used to be less than half the
00:38:29.980 white rate. Although how many, I mean, I feel like across all demographics, more kids are born out of
00:38:35.820 wedlock these days. Uh, yeah, they are, but now it's much more in the black community.
00:38:40.460 No, I, I'm honestly, if someone told me that was the same with white populations,
00:38:44.300 I wouldn't be remotely surprised. It's not. I mean, look at Sweden. I think no one gets married
00:38:49.100 anymore. Well, that's a different cultural structure. It's not that they don't have two
00:38:53.420 parents. It's that the people just choose to live together and they don't do the official
00:38:56.940 marriage ceremony. Oh, but that doesn't mean that black, that black families that are having
00:39:01.100 in America right now, many black children are being raised, not knowing who their fathers are.
00:39:06.540 Like that's a totally different phenomenon. Yeah. Okay. That, that is different, but yeah,
00:39:10.540 I just, I did, I just, wow. How, how can all of this hold and how can, how can black men
00:39:18.780 not be overwhelmingly like at least not for Kamala Harris? I, I just,
00:39:24.220 I just, even if I wanted handouts, I would be so dubious of the likelihood of these handouts
00:39:31.900 coming to me that I, I would be deeply concerned. It just doesn't seem likely.
00:39:38.540 Well, and I think that's the way a lot of the community feels. They just don't trust Democrats
00:39:41.420 anymore. Well, and yet, and yet still, I mean, isn't it that the majority of, of black voters,
00:39:46.780 broadly speaking, plan on voting? Right, but it's changing.
00:39:50.060 Yeah. It's changing. And I wouldn't be, and I think it's very interesting that Kamala was the
00:39:55.500 one who initiated this change, a presumably the person who at least identifies as a black American.
00:40:05.180 Trump has argued that she didn't identify as a black American until it was expedient. And before
00:40:09.020 that, maybe she was Indian, maybe she was mixed race or whatever. But I don't, I don't blame her for
00:40:13.500 that. If I had multiple potential racial backgrounds that I could identify with, I would chameleon my way
00:40:18.780 around the world too. Like. Yeah. It benefited me. But then, you know, I do think that he is
00:40:25.260 accurate in that attack of her and Democrats being like, Oh, how dare he do that? I'm like, yeah. But
00:40:30.540 like when they were like shocked that he called her the DEI candidate. But he like literally was,
00:40:36.460 because I think at some point during his candidacy for, um, president Biden had said,
00:40:43.500 I promise I will choose. It was like either like a, a, a, like non-white vice president.
00:40:52.060 Yeah. He applied to have a DEI
00:40:55.740 candidate and then he got one. And now it's like, Oh, but how dare you say that? That's
00:41:00.140 what it is. Cause it's the DEI candidate. Yeah. And I'd also note here that, I mean, she never won
00:41:07.260 any major election. Like when, in the primaries, when the Biden season, she was doing super poorly.
00:41:12.860 I don't think she made it to Iowa. Yeah. Which is the default candidate is insane.
00:41:20.140 Um, and you know, obviously the final thing, and we've mentioned this before, but it's worse
00:41:24.380 if you don't know this, you know, she did jail a bunch of innocent black people, thousands,
00:41:29.980 literally during her tenure, she didn't release them when they were supposed to be released in order
00:41:34.540 to win an election. She used them for free labor when it would have been cheaper to pay them.
00:41:39.180 She's just everything that black lives matter said it was campaigning against. She has called herself
00:41:45.660 the top cop of California. And, and when she says that she means in the corrupt, slimy, racist way.
00:41:52.620 But anyway, you can watch our camera video for more on that. I hope you have a wonderful night,
00:41:57.420 Simone. And I'm so disappointed. There's a Elon Trump rally right next to our house tonight.
00:42:02.540 And tonight it's Tuesday, right?
00:42:05.180 It's tonight. I don't know. I don't even know if it's happening anymore.
00:42:08.540 I haven't seen it.
00:42:09.500 I kind of feel like it's not happening because I haven't figured out how to sign up for it.
00:42:12.380 And that's kind of surprising to me.
00:42:16.220 I don't think it's, I can't find news coverage of it anymore.
00:42:19.180 I feel like things were taken down and it was canceled. So don't worry about it.
00:42:23.580 All right. Well, for tonight, I really love those taquitos you made yesterday.
00:42:27.340 Can you make more of something like that?
00:42:29.260 There were leftover ones of that, but you don't want leftovers.
00:42:32.940 I can do leftover taquitos with pumpkin ravioli and pesto. You need to use some pesto.
00:42:38.940 Oh yeah. Do you need to eat some pumpkin ravioli and pesto? Yeah, that works for me.
00:42:43.500 Because then if you don't like the taquitos, there's pumpkin ravioli and pesto.
00:42:46.220 Oh, I've got to like the taquitos. You're going to use the air fryer,
00:42:48.220 which will make them extra crispy, right?
00:42:49.420 Yeah. And I might like sprinkle a little more butter on top or something. Or maybe,
00:42:53.500 do you want me to put cheddar cheese on top? No, it makes them soggy. I don't know.
00:42:56.220 No, I actually do want, I was actually thinking they need cheese.
00:42:58.940 Okay. So some melted cheddar cheese on top. Yeah.
00:43:01.580 Melted cheddar cheese. I don't want to eat it. How many, how many do we have left?
00:43:04.940 Three. Yeah. That's a full meal. Give me the three melted cheddar cheese on top.
00:43:09.820 And then no pumpkin ravioli?
00:43:11.900 No pumpkin ravioli. We'll do that tomorrow.
00:43:13.900 Okay. Oh, not cheddar cheese, American cheese.
00:43:16.940 Okay. Cheddar cheese.
00:43:22.300 I mean, I, I'm like, we can do American cheese for like grilled cheese. Like there are places for it.
00:43:28.140 This is not, this is not the place. You don't want gelatin. You don't put gelatin on top of taquitos.
00:43:34.620 Can you, are they, are they in a way where you couldn't put anything else inside them?
00:43:37.900 Yeah. They're, they're like melded together. Okay. Great. Sorry.
00:43:44.060 I know I was thinking about the scallions. Scallions. Scallions. Yeah. Putting it, putting some, not scallions. What are, what are those shallots?
00:43:52.540 Shallots. I can chop up the shallots, shine finely, put them in a dipping dish and you can dip.
00:43:58.460 I don't know. Maybe. Do you want me to, I think it's fine the way it is, but the cheddar is a good idea.
00:44:08.060 Okay. We'll do that. And I love you.
00:44:11.580 I love you too, Simone. You are a great wife. And if you wanted to give me something a little extra, some tomato soup.
00:44:18.460 Oh, that's good. Cause we did open it and, oh, you can dip it. Oh, you can dip it.
00:44:23.020 Yeah. Taquitos with panang. She's taquitos with panang and pumpkin dipped in.
00:44:29.340 Yeah. She makes it with a pumpkin puree and then it's a slow cooked meat mix made with panang.
00:44:34.540 What kind of fusion is that? You got your, you got your American Mexican with taquitos.
00:44:40.900 Oh, new Americana. I, I am, I ever am president. I'm going to mess with the chefs at the white house so much.
00:44:45.980 You got your indigenous America with pumpkin. You got, where does tomato soup come from? I don't know. France.
00:44:55.900 It comes from the 1950s.
00:44:59.020 I feel like it's French. And then you've got cheddar cheese, which is from the Cheddar Gorge, which we visited.
00:45:07.500 Yes, we visited Cheddar Gorge.
00:45:08.780 A fine place in England.
00:45:12.300 It's Somerset.
00:45:13.020 All right. I love you, Simone. Have a good day.
00:45:14.940 Bye. Gorgeous. Take care. I love you.
00:45:16.540 Hope you enjoyed our conversation today.
00:45:17.820 I did though. Will you get the kids when it, when the time comes?
00:45:21.580 Thank you. All right. Love you.
00:45:25.100 Did, did you send Octavian to school wearing a key, like a, a lanyard today?
00:45:33.100 I might have.
00:45:33.980 Because apparently he identified on the schoolyard attempting to choke children with it upon not being given the toy that he wanted them to share.
00:45:51.340 That's the great thing about public school. You can't be kicked out.
00:45:54.060 Give it time, Malcolm. I'm receiving calls at this point.
00:46:00.940 His teacher's like, he understands that he needs to ask to share things and to encourage people to share.
00:46:07.420 But if they proceed to not share with him, he will use force.
00:46:13.980 He punches, he kicks, and most recently he chokes with lanyards.
00:46:18.940 That's delightful.
00:46:24.220 God bless him.
00:46:25.100 He fights for what he wants.
00:46:27.260 That's why we recently showed him the original Mortal Kombat, so that he and his brother, because he and his brother wanted to fight, and I was like, oh my gosh.
00:46:35.000 What could possibly go wrong?
00:46:36.680 There's this movie you guys have to see.
00:46:38.580 It defined my childhood.
00:46:40.440 Yeah, now he's going from punching and kicking to, I guess, like, windmill punching and sideways leap kicking.
00:46:52.720 That's the goal of sharing this stuff with him.
00:46:54.840 Through the air kicking.
00:46:56.140 I remember there was something else that I wanted to...
00:46:57.880 Oh yeah, well, the Guardian's coming tomorrow, and I love that we still take the Guardian reporters at our house after the umpteenth hit piece.
00:47:05.600 I wonder what this one's going to be.
00:47:06.960 I really hope it's a follow-up to the Hope Not Hate stuff, because that could be...
00:47:10.380 That's...
00:47:10.880 Well, she reached out to us immediately after that hit piece came out, and was like, I would like to shadow you as you campaign.
00:47:20.560 And then I had a call with her, and I was telling her how we were...
00:47:23.740 Our goal was to try all these unconventional tactics and make it possible for, you know, competent, employed people who don't want to spend all their time raising money or all their time campaigning
00:47:34.240 to actually get elected into office and make a positive difference.
00:47:37.420 And she just seemed kind of jarred by it.
00:47:40.740 Like, oh, I wasn't aware of that.
00:47:43.960 Like, she was...
00:47:45.200 I felt like she had blinders on of just like, I'm going to look at this freakish enemy.
00:47:51.720 Well, I know, and I think because the Hope Not Hate piece was like, you're elitist, right?
00:47:56.240 So she probably expected you to have an ultra-elitist attitude towards all of this.
00:47:59.880 I guess.
00:48:00.180 And what I might tell her is, our attitudes are elitist insofar as we have disdain for the existing power structure and see it as beneath us.
00:48:10.360 But we don't have disdain for the average American and see them as beneath us.
00:48:16.940 Yeah, no, we have disdain for those who choose not to show up in whatever capacity that might be.
00:48:22.020 Yeah.
00:48:22.400 So, yeah, I mean, we may have a great deal of disdain for your average political candidate or political consultant or pollster.
00:48:29.960 But we would have very little for the average American, which is what they were trying to frame that as.
00:48:36.000 And I'm like, it doesn't work that way.
00:48:37.580 All right.
00:48:39.260 You about ready to go?
00:48:41.280 Let me assume the position.
00:48:43.880 Oh, hold on.
00:48:44.360 I'll also send you something that we can go over.
00:48:46.740 And let's see.
00:48:47.800 Is your shirt okay?
00:48:49.300 Is your hair okay?
00:48:50.380 Is your mic on?
00:48:51.860 Oh, make sure for the reporter that you do wash my clothes tonight.
00:48:55.780 They're in the dryer.
00:49:02.220 What flag is that, buddy?
00:49:04.020 It's a flag of 22.
00:49:07.100 Teddy is giving us flags again because he likes the flag.
00:49:20.880 Do you like the flag too?
00:49:22.200 Yeah.
00:49:23.120 Why do you like it?
00:49:23.960 Because Teddy really wants it, and they'll buy it for him as a person.
00:49:30.540 Okay.
00:49:31.540 Okay.
00:49:39.460 Okay.
00:49:39.500 Okay.
00:49:39.860 Okay.
00:49:39.900 Okay.