Why aren t there more mass shootings by "incels"? Why aren't there more incels? Why do they do what they do? And why do they get away with it? This week, Simone and I talk about why this might be the case.
00:00:00.000That craziness is what provides them with the motivation to go talk to women where they could go to jail because they talked to her in the wrong way, where they could be shut down and socially shamed.
00:00:11.400Going up and approaching somebody in a dating context is incredibly difficult.
00:00:15.760And the line between the motivation you need to go up and approach a random woman who you're interested in and the motivation you need to shoot up your school, I think is a much narrower line.
00:00:27.920No, no, no, no, no. I feel honestly like in many ways shooting up a school is way easier, you know, because like.
00:00:34.840And that's the point. You need the guys to have this insane motivation.
00:00:38.620Chris Williamson's male sedation hypothesis proposes that online virtual worlds, particularly pornography and video games, have a pacifying effect on young men who are struggling to find romantic partners or sexual partners.
00:00:51.120The key points of this hypothesis are one, pornography provides a small dose of reproductive fitness cues.
00:00:58.900In the studies where it showed higher rates of murder and stuff like that tied to single men, these are societies that completely ban porn and masturbation because they're Muslim societies mostly is where you're seeing this.
00:01:10.940Yeah. One thing I kind of wonder is, is do you get the free radical problem or do you get essentially like risky young men in a society where porn isn't necessarily banned, but where no fap is pervasive?
00:01:26.920Hello, Simone. I am excited to be with you here today.
00:01:30.860Today, we are going to do an episode that asks, why aren't there more mass shootings by incels?
00:01:37.940I was really wondering this, like we are recording this fairly close to when President Donald Trump was almost killed, got his earshot through.
00:01:50.240And I'm like, why aren't more people not doing this?
00:01:52.980If apparently it's so freaking easy to go out with an AR and just shoot it as president, like why are people not going out all the time?
00:02:01.340Well, it's not just that. I mean, this is something that's been well studied and we've mentioned in previous episodes.
00:02:05.320If you look at polygynous societies versus monogamous, equivalent monogamous societies, you're typically going to get way more, like much higher rates of terrorism in the polygynous societies.
00:02:16.580And the question is, why? Why do you get higher rates of terrorism?
00:02:19.880Why even in monogamous societies get higher rates of terrorism as marriage rates go down, which was a thing that was studied in Egypt.
00:02:26.060If they were looking at like during economic downturns where people couldn't pay the bride price, more men would go unmarried and you'd directly get more terrorists.
00:02:33.300And the answer is an unmarried man has, you know, nothing to do with their time.
00:02:39.820Well, they're not just nothing to do with their time.
00:02:41.400They have no vested interest in the social order as it stands.
00:02:46.400Well, in other words, hormonally also, I would argue they're being told, go big or go home.
00:02:52.940Like you are genetically going to die.
00:02:56.660You might as well be dead in the water now.
00:02:58.300You know, biologically speaking, if they were in a tribe and under the tribe's current order, there was no chance that they would ever get a partner.
00:03:04.280Then it made sense to risk your life to up in the social order of that tribe.
00:03:11.760Yeah. Or, you know, do something insane that could possibly win you a sexual partner and therefore, you know, biologically survive to the next generation.
00:03:19.680So your genes, your body, everything that you've evolved is screaming at you as a male, go big or go home.
00:03:27.740So you're going to do increasingly risky things.
00:03:30.360Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So although, you know, I will maybe push back on that a little bit, right?
00:03:36.080Because there's some mixed data on this, right?
00:03:38.840Like I understand that like testosterone is high when you're in a very like sort of competitive male environment, when you're not in a stable relationship.
00:03:47.560But then there's also some research that finds that male testosterone kind of plummets when you're on a losing streak.
00:09:45.700And so, yeah, it would make sense that in those societies, the system would end up getting fully activated and you would get the murder, murderful.
00:10:04.100I'll pull up the statistic right here.
00:10:06.180So this is actually from our book, The Pragmatist Guide to Sexuality.
00:10:09.700Across nations, more permissive attitudes for pornography are correlated with lower rates of grape and less sexual violence against women.
00:10:16.760A great case study of this can be seen with the Czech Republic, where porn was illegal under communism, then legalized when the party fell.
00:10:23.980This decriminalization of pornography caused, in one year, grapes to decline over 37%.
00:11:19.180Other studies reinforce these results, such as one in aggression and behavior.
00:11:23.200This study was titled, The Pleasure is Momentary, the Expense Damnable, the Influence of Pornography on Grape and Sexual Assault, that found an inverse correlation between porn consumption and violent behavior towards women, specifically grape and sexual assaults.
00:11:39.080The study findings suggest the more porn a man consumes, the less likely he is to commit these violent acts against women.
00:11:48.600We're going to do another episode where we just go over this.
00:11:50.420But another great one is, for every 10% increase in internet access in the U.S., there is a corresponding regional decrease of 7.3% in grapes.
00:11:58.680so basically all of the evidence that i don't think he even knew this evidence that i just
00:12:14.860went over suggests that he is right and these things are intrinsically connected the reason
00:12:21.060why we haven't had an incel uprising is pornography online pornography oh thank goodness
00:12:27.260and video games and paintball but the question becomes what's the correct amount to engage with
00:12:34.140these things simone because yeah right literally we don't want our kids completely neutered by these
00:12:40.180you know fake masturbatory sources of pleasure but we also want them to be able to utilize them
00:12:48.040judiciously so that they aren't just distracted by these evolutionary drives that they just are
00:12:56.340irrelevant in a modern context we don't drive you know perfect value aligned you know it's very much
00:13:02.020like the something about mary you know you gotta masturbate before you go on a date or you'll be
00:13:05.820too horny to think straight line oh look the most honest moment in a man's life are the few minutes
00:13:14.960after he's blown his load and the reason for it is that you're no longer trying to get laid you're
00:13:19.880actually you're thinking like a girl and girls love that what is the right way to engage with this
00:13:27.360stuff given that it doesn't short circuit the male brain so effectively yeah my intuition is that we
00:13:32.400need to go back and you know this is couched in me not being a like trad wife fan right i'm not like
00:13:40.220let's go back to the 50s because it was so perfect then but that seems to be the right level and let me
00:13:46.640explain why there was porn absolutely there was porn but you had to go buy it in a magazine like it
00:13:51.960wasn't unlimited so it was like it was in in inherently what's the word for like when you're
00:13:58.780controlling doses but these were small controlled doses like you couldn't overdose basically based on
00:14:05.580the supply that was readily available to you like you could go a lot of people by the way if you're
00:14:10.500talking well i i actually disagree with this oh really well i think the porn of the 50s so i i have
00:14:16.540a actually pretty strange moral relationship with pornography no no no i know i'm not saying we
00:14:22.900go back to that style it could all be hentai it could all be whatever okay yeah i know i i think
00:14:27.720that the porn industry that features real humans is fundamentally unethical and shouldn't exist no i'm
00:14:33.400all for hentai but like i think what you if we went back to where you could like you had to buy
00:14:39.180like small packets it's not just hentai i think you've got to have ai porn you can have digital art porn
00:14:43.880you can have you have any porn that doesn't use real people but i also think that the bible talks
00:14:48.580about this as well so the bible says that you should not lust over other women when you're
00:14:54.600married you should you should you know to to look at another woman and lust over her is the same as
00:15:00.900creating adultery and i think that that's what it's pointing towards is that pornography should
00:15:06.220not include real women because of the downstream negative effects of that industry thank goodness for
00:15:10.720hentai then okay but here's the question what about something like only fans a lot of people use
00:15:16.320that to pay you know for their you know families and kids and it's do you think that that should be
00:15:22.780legal wait what only fans should only fans be legal
00:15:30.100see i'm still like in favor of you know a lot of people earn money doing what they want to do
00:15:41.740and honestly for many women i don't think it works um i don't think it works in a modern context people
00:15:48.580will use vpns people will use all the countries i know that actually have pornography bans just
00:15:53.600everyone gets around no you're right yeah and i'm saying like you were saying in an ideal world like
00:15:58.500i i can't i'm saying not in an ideal world i'm saying now for our kids oh for our kids relate
00:16:04.620to this how do you teach them to engage with these things to achieve optimal outcomes well so i think
00:16:11.300one of the key things is for us to be very open with it to the point where we make it not cool
00:16:15.760not so we're not making it shameful because that's very damaging we found that like you know for example
00:16:21.480masturbation only really seems to be damaging if you like turn it into an addiction or if you're very
00:16:27.020ashamed of it and then you like feel really bad about it and it causes us all these negative side
00:16:30.960effects so i don't want to shame porn for our kids but i do want to make it thoroughly uncool
00:16:36.240and if we're like hey would you like some porn like let's talk about this and like you know my mom was
00:16:41.820actually like that when i was a kid she's like hey you're at that age do you want me to get some
00:16:45.140porn for you i know you can't buy it yourself and be like so what are you into you know just like to
00:16:49.560really really make them uncomfortable and so they they're they're aware of it and like but we also make
00:16:55.300it uncool because i don't want them to be like ah look at me i'm so great for having discovered this
00:17:01.540um no i actually think that that's key and that's why i never i'm also going to be like you know boys
00:17:07.080you got to wash your sheets and you got to use the separate washing machine because i am not
00:17:11.060dealing with that was the same with me was my parents and drugs is is my mom had a role that was
00:17:16.680like well you can have drugs but you have to ask me to buy it like you want marijuana i'll get it for
00:17:21.100you but you know give me marijuana okay here you can have marijuana but i have to be the one to buy
00:17:25.420it and it just made it so uncool when other kids would come and they would like brag about like
00:17:31.480smoking dope with their friends and stuff like that i was just like you mean that thing that moms give
00:17:36.900you like why do you think that this makes you cool like it was very easy for me to see through the
00:17:45.420social temptation when i had first engaged it as that thing you have to ask your mom for
00:17:50.820and it was the same with pornography right like it was very not cool like to me at that age because
00:17:59.200i was like and i think that that really helped me intellectualize it at a very young age i think the
00:18:06.680bands on it caused it to become this alluring thing to people where for me my actual obsession
00:18:14.380with fetishes and stuff like that comes more from how intellectually strange it is to me
00:18:20.940like why are humans doing these things when i don't understand the evolutionary pressures that
00:18:26.560would have led them to do these things or it doesn't make sense with my understanding of human
00:18:30.660evolution probably what got you first excited about them was you realized that you could play
00:18:35.660arbitrage games if you pandered to other people's fetishes
00:18:40.580you know and i use that a lot with the girls that i was dating in the early days
00:18:45.700you know when you when you go to a girl and you're like yeah i'm gonna i i well then the thing was is
00:18:51.340back when i was dating in in the early days and this is something guys don't do and and somehow they
00:18:56.500don't notice that girls do this girls walk around when they are if you're if you're dating and you're in
00:19:03.960that younger phase of your life like early 20s late teens the girls of that age range walk around
00:19:10.900with their porn constantly but you just might not recognize it as porn because it is their romance
00:19:18.580novels and their dystopian books and their vampire books and their fairy books but girls have like the
00:19:25.980ultimate place to learn a girl's fetishes to go to her goodreads profile yeah they like and i think
00:19:33.180guys don't recognize this because they see porn as in and fetishes as like something shameful that they
00:19:38.400don't talk about in public when it's like often a big part of like late teen girls identity totally
00:19:44.300and guys miss it because they don't know to look there they don't know well because again and this is
00:19:51.300demonstrated through dick pics guys think that women relate to sex the same way they do so they're like
00:19:56.840well what would i love to receive oh like a picture of her genitals i'll send her picture of mine
00:20:02.880aren't i being nice as you say in the book on sexuality it's the ultimate feminist move yes
00:20:09.700but you know you see a girl back in my you know days the most common was like vampires or werewolves
00:20:15.500walking around with vampire books you know to come to her was your story of well you know i've just
00:20:21.180always had this shameful fetish around vampire stuff and i don't feel i can talk about it publicly
00:20:27.780but you've seen all of her books you know what she thinks of this and then all of a sudden she's
00:20:34.220like oh really well blah blah blah blah but that's just the way it's it's actually remarkable to me
00:20:46.300and i think that this is the the core challenge of all this is that guys just aren't beginning to
00:20:50.780engage with girls anymore because all of these alternative sources they provide an excuse for a
00:20:55.660it's like well i don't want to be me too i don't want to be x i don't want to be y yeah you know so
00:21:01.580i'm just not gonna go out there and it's so dangerous to go out there and chris williamson
00:21:07.080also had a fun idea about how to fix it which is like the next company i want to do it is to create
00:21:12.640an ai that is trained on women to flirt and turn down guys so that guys can practice knowing when
00:21:22.400they're being flirted with and knowing like the way to ask out a girl in a safe way before doing
00:21:29.000it was the real thing wow wouldn't that be great to have for our young boys oh yeah no we need to
00:21:36.280make this at least just for our kids yeah i'm definitely building it if somebody else doesn't
00:21:40.660build this i'm 100 building so i'm gonna do it i've gotten pretty good at programming chat bots and
00:21:46.900they're very high quality at this stage so i can do this for free which is something i didn't
00:21:51.620realize when i first recorded this build a pretty high quality model of this with the existing
00:21:56.860nsfw chat bots and i'll be doing it i think it would be a lot of like a real utility as a product so
00:22:06.400that my kids don't end up because this is the problem when dating as a young man if you mess up
00:22:12.820right you can cross implied consent lines which make a simple mistake great and if you are sleeping
00:22:24.340around a ton like i did you know i slept with like well over 100 people before i settled down it i only
00:22:31.420need to mess up with one of those people and now i'm a grapist if i misjudged implied consent just
00:22:37.300one percent of the time in this current world i would still be accused of being a grapist that is
00:22:44.540wild it's also important to consider because this is something you know women don't talk about much
00:22:53.300and they over i think dismiss what the red pill community has found and says which is that women
00:23:00.420really don't find it hot to actively give consent they kind of like the guy to take charge of the
00:23:08.380situation and to show that he can actively judge whether or not they are consenting to moving
00:23:13.880forwards and that is you know you remove a lot of especially for younger people when they're way
00:23:21.840hornier and way more driven by what is arousing to them you are making it so that the men who follow
00:23:27.900these rules that girls are setting are going to do much worse with girls and have girlfriends or
00:23:35.800partners who are much less infatuated with them like it's hard to read like and this is the other
00:23:43.820thing that like the modern world doesn't take into consent consideration because they just haven't i
00:23:50.080guess slept around a lot but like anyone who has knows you cannot reliably determine consent that's not
00:23:57.060being actively given to you if somebody is not actively and verbally declining consent and
00:24:02.140somebody can be like well you know they you you just ask yeah that's a mood killer that's not
00:24:07.380something that people who are actually also like that's i even that feels like a completely moot point
00:24:12.880now because even if you killed the mood and did that they could retroactively decide to revoke consent
00:24:21.380yeah so like what's the point like i'm not gonna bother asking for consent if it could just be
00:24:25.880revoked later on if like suddenly i become less cool and they decide that they now regret having slept
00:24:32.220with me even though the you know for the first eight weeks it was fine so i just yeah like you can't win
00:24:39.280but that is that is interesting it makes me concerned what one thing i kind of wonder is is do you get
00:24:48.080the free radical problem or do you get essentially like risky young men in a society where porn isn't
00:24:54.700necessarily banned but where nofap is pervasive like in other words is a nofap man who consensually
00:25:01.760has limited his access is he going to make himself into a radical and unhappy yeah i think he is much
00:25:09.300more likely to become radicalized from the data we have access to oh see that's that's scary because
00:25:15.060i feel like that's where the sentiment is going i think that that gen z and gen alpha are going to
00:25:20.500be more religiously and socially conservative whether or not it codes that way like you know
00:25:25.960they're going to be all very like lgbtq plus whatever but they're also going to be like sex
00:25:29.600negative porn negative masturbation negative and then you're going to get this theoretically then
00:25:35.220that's not good yeah that's actually something that we should be worried about socially speaking
00:25:41.560and oh add it to the list add it to the list no well and and and you don't want the left to
00:25:48.420learn about this that they learn that this stuff causes radicalization because these guys aren't
00:25:52.960having their needs met and so they're sort of going into genetic uh boobicide mode that is really
00:26:00.060dangerous socially why because that you think the left would want to accelerate the revolution that
00:26:05.120brings an end to late capitalism would see things like nofap as a sign of they'd see it as
00:26:11.060dangerous and they try to kill the movement wouldn't it be good if the nofap movement was killed
00:26:16.860isn't isn't the movement that we want yes fap yes well we've got to do another episode that'll go
00:26:25.620live before this one that requires more context i'm gonna go over all the science of masturbation
00:26:30.720research because i think that that's really needed for the context on this question which is to say
00:26:36.700nofap is genuinely probably a deleterious movement for our society well you already pointed out that
00:26:42.400it is because basically if men are not sedating themselves they are going to make themselves more
00:26:46.680dangerous to society well yeah it's kind of like look at it this way look at it this way okay
00:26:51.860if you if you have schizophrenia you could be a danger to yourself and others you need to take
00:26:56.580medication if you have severe anxiety you could be a danger to yourself and others you should
00:27:01.560probably take medications you can function like if you're not getting sex that craziness is what
00:27:08.280provides them with the motivation to go talk to women where they could go to jail because they
00:27:14.080talked to her in the wrong way where they could be shut down and socially shamed going up and
00:27:19.020approaching somebody in a dating context is incredibly difficult and the line between the motivation you
00:27:25.600need to go up and approach a random woman who you're interested in and the motivation you need to shoot up
00:27:30.820your school i think is a much narrower line oh no no no no i feel honestly like in many ways shooting up
00:27:38.860a school is way easier you know because like and that's the point you need the guys to have this
00:27:44.220insane motivation yeah yeah if you if you well here's the way i would change this okay hold on hold on let
00:27:53.040me mute myself i think that the way i would teach our kids to relate to this is i think you know and
00:27:59.940i've mentioned this before in other episodes i think that ultimately we need to remove a human
00:28:04.300arousal from humans i think it's the first emotion that just absolutely must be deleted it provides no
00:28:09.660utility it was meant for monkeys that couldn't figure out the utility of children and so they needed to
00:28:16.060feel some positive thing to figure out the x goes in the y and that makes babies and babies are
00:28:21.980good for me we should have a world where people are making children for the sake of the children
00:28:30.180the reason they're excited to get a wife and have a family is for the family not for the sex i think
00:28:35.800people who marry for sex like that is a fundamentally twisted reason to marry and it will lead to really
00:28:45.320bad relationships and i think that this is one of the core problems you have in evangelical communities
00:28:49.440is people are essentially getting pressured to marry so that they are allowed to have sex
00:28:56.120and they aren't even allowed to masturbate like of course they're making rash decisions
00:29:02.260so instead i would say that i really don't care if my kids satiate their arousal pathways with any sort of
00:29:13.520whatever material they want i think that they should instead refocus their drives in life
00:29:20.900around building families because the happiness they will get from the family is higher than any
00:29:28.860amount of happiness you can get from any amount of sex that you're getting even if you're sleeping
00:29:34.040was like you know there were times in my life where you know i'd have threesomes and i'd have
00:29:38.200multiple partners and i'd have sleep with famous people and i you know the amount of happiness that
00:29:44.920any of that gave me is absolutely minuscule when contrasted with the amount of happiness i get from
00:29:55.000my kids and my wife and my family and so i think that yeah it's pointless it's pointless like like
00:30:01.940if they can well the nature of the pleasure is so different like the the pleasure i've gotten from
00:30:07.200sex has been no different from the pleasure i've gotten from like a really good meal or from like
00:30:13.280fentanyl like they're all they're all the same they're they're a physical yeah pleasure and they're real
00:30:22.160like i'm not gonna say like sex feels good fentanyl feels good and food feels good like you know if
00:30:27.380they're good but there's nothing they don't they're completely it's like a different game entirely
00:30:34.060compared to what it's like to be married to you malcolm quite frankly which is just like all my
00:30:39.500dreams coming true and then some or are watching our kids grow and seeing the sparkle in their eye
00:30:44.680that they inherited from you it is marvelous but it is also very different so in a world in which someone
00:30:51.220lives a nihilistic and purely hedonistic life i guess you know if they're just comparing sex to food
00:30:56.940to fentanyl then like what but i think if you can make the point of dating the family the family that
00:31:03.760they are going to get from that relationship i think that's the key well and that's i mean like
00:31:09.720part of my my pushback to you saying you have to have men who are brave enough to just cold approach
00:31:15.100a woman i don't think you do because i don't think that approach ever will scale or really work
00:31:21.200honestly like we've reached a point in society where like cold approaching women in in the kind of
00:31:26.760way that men are expected to now is not going to work for 80 percent of men it's going to work for
00:31:32.14020 and right now it is only working for 20 and how dare you imply that it should work you're in the top
00:31:37.7200.001 so fuck you you're not allowed to talk okay it's really hard for people out there and i think the
00:31:44.340only way that we can fix this is by bringing back dating markets and i actually don't think that's a
00:31:49.180far-fetched thing to do one because the alternative is already so broken but two because both men and
00:31:54.640women from their teens through their 30s and even 40s have expressed to us again and again how awesome
00:32:03.560they would love they would love this it's an awesome idea where can i sign up like put me on the list put
00:32:09.280my kids on the list people want these and and people are actively trying to go out and find and hire
00:32:15.740matchmakers and use matchmaking services they just aren't very they're not designed well because there's
00:32:21.040not enough of a cohesive culture and to your point yes it is about dating a family the whole family has
00:32:25.560to have buy-in and you have to have cultural buy-in and cultural match as well but i do think that you
00:32:30.200can build solutions around that and i do think there are ways to address this i think keeper ai may be
00:32:36.100making some progress there and some other people i'm sure will come up with some interesting things
00:32:41.740so yeah to your point like i i think i think yes vap has to be a thing and i think it's it's a band-aid
00:32:50.040to a known problem and yes you but i think you know you you you need you need yes vap you also need
00:32:57.980like boy scouts and paintball and like allowing men to be men and allowing men to date and like get out
00:33:05.940there and making it a cultural norm and you know when you have that and when you make people
00:33:11.920comfortable doing it and create venues and activities where it's allowed to happen
00:33:15.300it's great bring the bring the girls paintballing then you can act heroic in front of them then you
00:33:20.520can bond over the trauma of being hit you know like whatever you can protect them um wait girls you
00:33:27.480want you want to find a guy in your young do something like paintballing i really that sounds
00:33:32.100high status in among males like talk about playing the arbitrage game wow yeah yeah that's like being
00:33:38.600a guy cheerleader i heard a great tactic along this line from one of the girls on our discord server
00:33:45.080today uh who's now married this worked to find her husband where she said what she would do is she
00:33:50.440would challenge guys to a fight when they were dieting and i was like that is such a great way as a
00:33:56.620girl to be incredibly what is functionally sexually aggressive without a guy coding it
00:34:03.180yeah while also being like tough there while also being tough oh sorry i didn't i'm coding right now
00:34:09.600all right this is hanging here she's there her food's there diapers are there i love you love you too
00:34:14.800be safe when you drive okay i will but yes to to one and people can be like well why would this be
00:34:22.600sexually aggressive because what's realistically going to happen in this fight i can tell you
00:34:26.540as a guy who's not completely idiotic what most guys are gonna do is they are going to either
00:34:34.780puss out in which case she knows pussy not a cultural fit likely or be interested in actually
00:34:41.180fighting her if they are interested in actually fighting her almost no guy is gonna throw the first
00:34:46.880blow what they're gonna do is they're gonna wait for her to make a move to see how serious she is
00:34:51.780about this um if she does a medium hit she doesn't want to be too hard because you don't want him
00:34:55.960to actually you want him to know that even she was holding back a bit um but if she does that
00:35:02.400what is the guy gonna do uh even if she went fully hard what a guy is likely gonna do is what i would
00:35:07.820do which is grab her wrists and hold her in place because it's very easy to overpower most girls
00:35:13.340even girls who exercise if you're a guy who exercises to any extent um or if i don't think i can
00:35:20.460just hold her arms in place to grapple her both of those lead to very sexualized scenarios which are
00:35:26.880very easy to transition for the girl into something else and very easy to tell that the guy is actually
00:35:33.200interested in her because the guy isn't going to do something like that or allow the situation to
00:35:37.560escalate like that if he isn't interested in potentially getting physical with you because
00:35:41.580he knows what's going to happen in the fight just as well as you know what's going to happen in the
00:35:45.100fight and it can also signal cultural alignment to the guy which can be really useful because it's
00:35:49.520quite a rough and tumble thing to do from anyone who's from one of the clan cultures
00:35:52.500are we gonna have our girls paintball i haven't seen a paintball place around here
00:35:56.640oh we'll find one and i don't know if they're like you know we're gonna have to see if there
00:36:01.100are hot teens hanging out at the gun range yeah they used to be you go to the mall to meet random
00:36:06.080people but now we'll have our online circles yeah i i was gonna say like i i i should note here on the
00:36:12.860the sexuality stuff i'm gonna read a few more because it looks like this might go live before i went on
00:36:17.100masturbation yeah here's another quote masturbation may contribute to a decline in many social ills
00:36:22.080ucla researchers found that sex criminals on average consume less porn than the average person
00:36:27.440and started consuming it at a later age than the average non-sex criminal forgot about today sex
00:36:33.440criminals been able to explore their sexuality through their imagination earlier perhaps they
00:36:38.060would not have felt compelled to commit sex crimes and here i'd also point out oh yes people who consume
00:36:43.900more pornography actually have better views of women than people who don't consume yeah they
00:36:48.540were more feminist right yes yeah yeah and and for people who are like no what what what about like
00:36:55.200wasn't there there was also one that that women who consume porn because the thought is that like
00:36:59.180it also makes women feel terrible about themselves but instead women who consume porn are more sexually
00:37:03.680confident oh yeah yeah that's definitely a study here's here's another quote so we did recall a study
00:37:08.900being conducted by the max plank institute showing that the in that intense porn consumption in men
00:37:15.080was associated with lower gray matter volume in the brain so we went back to the only study to realize
00:37:21.240that what it actually found was that men who consumed lots of porn had lower amounts of gray matter in a
00:37:26.000specific part of the brain the rights triadum this is the part of the brain involved was reward processing
00:37:31.680oh is that men who have deficient reward processing pathways consume more porn uh okay yeah they
00:37:40.400probably also like consume more processed goods and relation than causation yeah and wouldn't you know
00:37:46.660it that is what the authors of the study have also said in interviews um it's actually wild to me how
00:37:53.920just like astroturf no crap is it's a it is it's like a it's like a any of these cold turkey
00:38:01.420things i just get pissed you know and that's another thing if you do struggle with porn consumption
00:38:06.000just take naltrexone bro yeah dude it like alcohol works for porn it it significantly so people might
00:38:14.280think i drink a lot but that's because they haven't seen malcolm pre-naltrexone i drink in a controlled
00:38:20.600fashion these days and back then i drank in an old uncontrolled fashion yeah but i i also have to note for people
00:38:28.320are like you never got drunk though you were just you were just like a an old english man
00:38:33.060talking like 1600s english man i remember when you made the rule for me that i wasn't allowed to
00:38:38.860start drinking because you know you you were like it's becoming a problem and she said i couldn't
00:38:43.620start before 8 a.m and that would keep in mind that malcolm wakes up when i broke the rules