Based Camp - Why Progressives Need to Bully People for Being ＂Weird＂

00:00:00.000 What defines weirdness is a person's willingness to challenge the dominant cultural mores of a

00:00:07.460 society with an alternate framework. Democrats and the Harris campaign now

00:00:11.880 deploying a new adjective to blast the Republican ticket. Some of what he and his running mate

00:00:17.120 are saying, well, it's just plain weird. Get those nerds. I mean, on the other side,

00:00:23.160 they're just weird. Nerd! Nerd! It's not just a weird style that he brings. 0.97

00:00:31.240 Nerd! Nerd! Where are they? I think they're talking about us. No way.

00:00:37.840 Nerd! Nerd! Nerd! Hello, Simone. I am so excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to

00:00:46.860 be talking about a wild shift that has happened in part because of the political realignment,

00:00:54.500 the ongoing political realignment in this country. But it also reminds me a lot of bemoaning I've seen

00:00:59.160 from normal conservatives, or they're like, of the old GOP Inc. days, they're like, I'm not weird.

00:01:03.720 But Kamala Harris has been, in her campaign, in the Democratic establishment, and a lot of

00:01:10.100 Democratic power players have been putting this idea out there that J.D. Vance is weird and Trump

00:01:17.420 is weird. And I kind of love it because, for me, they come off like, you know, because they are the

00:01:27.800 culturally dominant force in our society right now. And when weirdness is defined by cultural distance

00:01:32.460 from the culturally dominant force, yes, definitionally, they are weird. But it's shown that

00:01:38.420 as soon as they became the culturally dominant force in our society, they immediately became

00:01:43.220 the bullets. You know, they became, like, the people shouting nerd in, like, the Revenge of the

00:01:47.640 Nerds movie. I just wanted to say that now I'm a nerd. I mean, all our lives we've been laughed at

00:01:57.020 and made to feel inferior. President Obama started mocking Trump mercilessly.

00:02:03.660 He can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter. Like, did we fake the moon landing?

00:02:13.140 Obama didn't hide his utter disdain.

00:02:15.680 Obviously, we all know about your credentials and breadth of experience.

00:02:19.740 For example, no, seriously, just recently, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice, you, Mr. Trump,

00:02:30.440 recognized that the real problem was a lack of leadership. You fired Gary Busey.

00:02:39.540 And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up at night.

00:02:42.060 The insults didn't stop with the president. Listen to comedian Seth Meyers, the evening's guest host.

00:02:50.020 Donald Trump has been saying that he will run for president as a Republican,

00:02:53.020 which is surprising since I just assumed he was running as a joke. 1.00

00:02:58.320 And tonight, those bastards, they trashed our franchises. 1.00

00:03:04.340 Why? Because we're smart? Because we look different? 1.00

00:03:13.300 I'm a nerd, and I'm pretty proud of it.

00:03:17.400 There's a lot more of us in our view. 0.97

00:03:20.480 You might have been called a spaz or a dork or a geek. 0.87

00:03:27.260 Any of you that have ever felt stepped on, left out, picked on, put down, 0.98

00:03:36.580 why don't you just come down here and join us, okay?

00:03:38.620 Okay.

00:03:39.260 Come on.

00:03:39.720 Come on.

00:03:46.220 You know, Coach, I think I'm going to let these boys live over at the White House

00:03:56.540 while you and your boys rebuild theirs.

00:03:59.520 And where the hell are we going to live?

00:04:01.180 Yeah, what about us, huh?

00:04:03.880 You're out-of-touch billionaires who live in your mansions. 0.97

00:04:06.860 Nerd! 1.00

00:04:07.920 Nerd! 1.00

00:04:09.000 Nerd! 1.00

00:04:09.700 Nerd! 1.00

00:04:10.940 Nerd! 1.00

00:04:11.580 Nerd! 1.00

00:04:12.260 Nerd! 1.00

00:04:12.940 Nerd! 1.00

00:04:13.260 Nerd! 1.00

00:04:13.380 Nerd! 1.00

00:04:13.740 I cannot believe it's happening. 0.85

00:04:16.500 I heard recently that rumors have been spread that J.D. Vance wears eyeliner,

00:04:22.900 even photographers have been like, yeah, I just took a picture of him.

00:04:26.920 Confirmed.

00:04:27.920 No.

00:04:28.400 You can see photos of him as a child.

00:04:30.320 He's one of those people that just has really thick eyelashes.

00:04:34.060 And also there was this rumor that there was a detailed account in his book,

00:04:38.460 the elegy, of him getting sexually intimate with a couch, which is not there.

00:04:44.720 And that these things are just coming out, like that we have to attack him in this way

00:04:51.560 is so odd to me as well, because aren't there plenty of policy attacks, you know, policy-based

00:04:58.100 attacks that we can make, you know, aren't there others?

00:04:59.900 Well, no, it was all vibe with progressives.

00:05:01.700 They're like unthinking masses.

00:05:02.880 They're like vibe, vibe, vibe, but...

00:05:04.560 Yeah, it's Kamala's brat summer.

00:05:07.500 It's they're weird.

00:05:09.680 There's no substance to it.

00:05:11.500 And I don't...

00:05:12.440 But also I kind of get it because here's what has me concerned is it's that same sentiment

00:05:18.720 aesthetic wave that I think got Trump elected in 2016.

00:05:23.200 It wasn't policy stances.

00:05:25.500 It wasn't concrete elements of his character.

00:05:28.560 It was the feeling.

00:05:30.160 It was this groundswell of a mood.

00:05:34.960 But here's the thing.

00:05:37.880 Actually, Trump and J.D. Vance have tried to push back against the weird accusations.

00:05:42.000 I don't think they should.

00:05:43.060 You think they should lean in?

00:05:44.540 Weird is how you get things done.

00:05:48.120 Only a weirdo can really change things because they're the only ones willing to think outside

00:05:52.700 the box.

00:05:53.740 This is the thing about nerds.

00:05:55.980 And it's an accurate attack, to be honest. 1.00

00:05:59.140 J.D. Vance is a nerd. 0.95

00:06:01.920 Like, he's a classic nerd. 0.89

00:06:04.220 Growing up, it's clear from his diary that within...

00:06:06.820 Yeah, he grew up a hillbilly, but he was a nerd among the hillbillies.

00:06:10.080 You look at Trump...

00:06:10.940 I guess. 0.83

00:06:11.480 He apparently didn't know what tentacle porn was, which... 0.94

00:06:15.380 Come on, Vance. 0.59

00:06:16.820 Yeah, he's pretending.

00:06:18.080 Was Trump...

00:06:18.900 Was Trump ever...

00:06:21.080 No, to pretend you don't know must mean you have it on your computer because that's like

00:06:24.700 a cultural milestone there, man.

00:06:27.060 But with Trump, you look at this guy.

00:06:29.860 This is a guy who, until the MAGA movement, was never really accepted by elite New York

00:06:35.420 culture, which is what he always strived for.

00:06:37.440 He always wanted to be...

00:06:38.080 Yeah, he was the outcast.

00:06:39.200 Totally.

00:06:39.580 He was the bullied kid who really wanted to be a part of the fun.

00:06:42.600 And he spent his entire life being bullied by these people.

00:06:47.160 You saw this when he first ran.

00:06:48.940 You saw the president of the United States when he was roasting people.

00:06:53.620 And I'll put the clip here from the press dinner.

00:06:56.820 Literally go up there and roast a sovereign citizen.

00:07:01.080 Right? 1.00

00:07:01.640 Roast Trump. 1.00

00:07:02.920 If any people are like...

00:07:03.940 They have this meme where it's like that's when he decides he's going to run.

00:07:07.320 Like that was the birth of the Trump movement with him being roasted and being like, I'll

00:07:11.120 show you.

00:07:11.880 I'll show you all.

00:07:18.380 Donald Trump is here since recently in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice.

00:07:23.820 The men's cooking team did not impress the judges.

00:07:28.420 And there was a lot of blame to go around.

00:07:30.180 But you, Mr. Trump, recognized that the real problem was a lack of leadership.

00:07:35.780 And so you fired Gary Busey.

00:07:41.220 Say what you will about...

00:07:42.780 Not funny.

00:07:44.920 Bigly not funny.

00:07:47.060 Oh, I'll get you a birth certificate, Obama.

00:07:49.880 Well, we'll see who's laughing then.

00:07:53.480 I'm not a loser.

00:07:56.500 It's okay, Trump.

00:07:57.640 They probably already forgot about the jokes.

00:08:00.280 Let's just see what's on the telly, telly.

00:08:02.000 Donald Trump humiliated by the leader of the free world tonight at the White House Correspondents'

00:08:07.240 Dinner. 0.98

00:08:07.760 Yes, Wolf, it was very clear who was the president of the United States and who was the buffoon. 0.98

00:08:12.600 Ah! 0.98

00:08:14.440 Yeah!

00:08:14.840 Welcome back to our 24-7 coverage of the utter humiliation of Donald Trump.

00:08:22.320 Say what you will about, uh, Mr. Trump.

00:08:24.780 He certainly would bring some change to the White House.

00:08:28.020 Let's see what we've got up there.

00:08:29.020 We will make America great again.

00:08:48.500 But that is who he was.

00:08:50.560 He was this nerd who took over for the rest of us, right?

00:08:54.680 And I think that so many people feel that.

00:08:57.700 With the urban monoculture, the force of wokeness that the progressives represent, being the

00:09:02.900 dominant force in our society, so many of us now know that feeling of being kicked out

00:09:08.940 of a club because you're not progressive enough, losing a job because you're not progressive

00:09:15.600 enough, being pushed around in college because you're not progressive enough, having people

00:09:20.440 play little tricks on you because you're not progressive enough.

00:09:23.080 We all know this feeling.

00:09:25.040 And in whatever way you're not progressive enough, because progressivism is a monolith.

00:09:29.940 You know, we were just saying-

00:09:30.500 Well, it is what is normative.

00:09:32.560 It used to be that being a little bit more conservative leaning, you know, being a jock

00:09:37.760 or a cheerleader meant being normative and mainstream.

00:09:41.960 But now to be normative and mainstream is to be progressive.

00:09:45.660 So if you are not, you're going to be weird.

00:09:48.180 You're going to be the nerd and you're going to be bullied.

00:09:50.000 But back when the conservatives ran the country, that was when you had, you know, an evangelical

00:09:54.960 Protestant majority that could be the dominant culture in this country, which you just don't

00:10:00.200 have anymore.

00:10:00.860 The conservative culture now is too diverse, whereas the progressivism is not diverse.

00:10:04.820 We were just talking with Razine Zumer.

00:10:06.300 We had an interview with him right before this.

00:10:08.280 And what we were saying was, if you get like two ultra conservatives of the same denomination,

00:10:14.700 they will usually have more theological differences between each other than an extremist progressive,

00:10:20.700 you know, Protestant minister versus an extremist progressive Muslim minister.

00:10:24.940 They really are just one culture that is using their cultural dominance to bully everyone else.

00:10:31.100 And I think that many people who originally were drawn to the conservative movement back when

00:10:37.600 the conservative movement represented the culturally dominant force were not drawn for theological

00:10:43.260 or ideological reasons.

00:10:45.400 They were drawn because it was the powerful group in society the way they saw it.

00:10:49.800 It was the cheerleaders. 0.99

00:10:50.720 It was the jocks.

00:10:51.640 And now that it's not, they're experiencing serious cognitive dissonance.

00:10:56.520 And I've seen this when I've talked to a number of them.

00:10:58.460 They're like, well, yeah, but I'm not weird.

00:11:02.380 Like conservatives aren't weird.

00:11:03.500 It's weird.

00:11:03.780 It was like you who are ruining it. 0.99

00:11:04.780 I was like, your freaking candidate is Trump and Vance. 0.99

00:11:08.780 Come on. 0.98

00:11:09.220 Well, and this is, this is even something that we found as, as early as a year ago,

00:11:14.100 if not earlier, that when media coverage would talk about our pronatalism, people on Twitter

00:11:21.480 would call us freaks, which just, they would, they would use words like, you know, freaks is

00:11:29.840 something that I think an eighties jock villain would say to a protagonist.

00:11:35.880 Do you really want to be partners with that freak?

00:11:40.300 Well, that's what they become. 0.98

00:11:42.420 Freaks.

00:11:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:11:43.880 It's so weird.

00:11:45.360 Why would you say that to someone when it just seems so stereotypically?

00:11:49.620 Well, it's the way that the dominant culture often reacts to anyone who is challenging it.

00:11:54.880 Yeah.

00:11:54.980 But why would like, would you ever call someone a freak?

00:11:57.180 Wouldn't that make you feel like you were the bad guy?

00:12:00.160 Well, no, because I grew up and this is also, I think, a different thing.

00:12:04.860 Like, like these people who are now drawn to progressivism because they have power in previous

00:12:08.800 Oh, they would have been the evangelical Christians in their time.

00:12:11.660 If that was the thing.

00:12:12.500 They would have been.

00:12:13.040 Yeah.

00:12:13.200 They absolutely would.

00:12:14.260 Just doing it because it gives them power and the power to, they're like, I have lived

00:12:19.220 a life according to what society has told me to do.

00:12:22.140 And now they're like, and you are doing something different and seem happy.

00:12:27.120 I must shame that.

00:12:28.540 Like, that's how the culture works, right?

00:12:30.120 It maintains internal consistency by reacting reactively to anybody who seems to be successful

00:12:40.320 with an alternate cultural model.

00:12:42.440 I mean, that's why they had to do this hit piece on like Ballerina Farms, for example. 0.99

00:12:45.580 And then it came out that the reporter, because it turned out, and we did an episode on this,

00:12:50.760 but what we didn't mention in the episode is it turned out that she had released recordings

00:12:55.620 of the in-person interviews and she like directly lied in the article to try to make them look

00:13:01.740 bad.

00:13:02.180 And she had released these on previous podcasts when she was talking about writing the article.

00:13:06.300 And it's like, oh, it is spaghetti-oos. 0.93

00:13:10.800 Um, uh, but another thing I note is when people are like, conservatives are not nerds.

00:13:15.900 I'm like, okay, so not just like the main top conservatives.

00:13:19.220 Again, we were just talking with Rudeen Zoomer.

00:13:23.740 And look at this guy.

00:13:25.300 He's got like a bow tie, a button down shirt.

00:13:27.740 This has been conservatives for a long time.

00:13:31.000 They have been the nerds for a long time, like at least a decade and a half at this point.

00:13:36.420 And I love the dissonance I see.

00:13:39.000 When I went on Blaze TV, I was doing this interview with like John Popopopoulos or something.

00:13:44.220 Anyway, so he was like, yeah, but aren't you tired of being the rebels?

00:13:48.880 Like, aren't you tired of being the resistance?

00:13:53.020 And I'm like, tired of being the resistance?

00:13:55.900 What?

00:13:57.040 That's awesome.

00:13:58.260 That's like the best life.

00:14:00.420 And I realize it might be that like I'm genetically coded differently.

00:14:03.460 You know, I'm like the descendant of the original American patriots.

00:14:07.460 Because what does patriot mean?

00:14:08.420 A lot of people think patriot means like you love your country.

00:14:11.180 No, patriot was a term that meant like terrorist originally.

00:14:14.760 You were the resistance against the evil tyranny.

00:14:18.700 You were the rebels.

00:14:20.360 Being on a righteous rebel team, what is better than that?

00:14:25.980 It ends today.

00:14:29.460 The line is for the ring!

00:14:33.460 Wait!

00:14:38.080 No retreat!

00:14:43.460 Hold the line! 1.00

00:14:51.260 Push forward!

00:14:54.980 like i can't imagine anything from from like my cultural framing's perspective that would be

00:15:17.460 a more enjoyable or fulfilling life than this like i love this generation of conservatism

00:15:24.180 and i think that a lot of these people because like the guy who's interviewing me he got into

00:15:28.100 conservatives when they were the dominant faction and i and i realized he just wanted to be in the

00:15:34.100 dominant faction he didn't believe all of this he didn't you know he he doesn't or maybe it's that

00:15:41.620 he doesn't like fighting for justice for the sake of fighting for justice like maybe that doesn't

00:15:46.260 fill him with a righteous passion every morning like when i wake up every morning i'm like i

00:15:50.900 i'm on the good guy's side and we are on the back nines but we are going to win this thing by golly

00:15:56.660 and and that inspires me and i realize that for a a portion of people that does it they want to be

00:16:02.740 the ones who control everything and can bully other people um what would be your answer to someone who

00:16:10.100 was on the normative side who counters that with well what makes you think that just being weird

00:16:15.940 is better why why would being normative being be bad and why do you think it's inherently good

00:16:21.300 to be the one who resists the mainstream the mainstream might be mainstream for a reason

00:16:25.140 because it's correct so there's two things here there is the mainstream versus tradition

00:16:32.020 and then there is why is weird always good and it is always good

00:16:36.180 no no no actually i should say weird is also always bad um there are different ways you can

00:16:43.780 be weird what defines weirdness is a person's willingness to challenge the dominant cultural 0.64

00:16:50.900 mores of a society with an alternate framework now that alternate framework can be dumb but

00:16:57.700 we know that we are not at a moral nexus of history okay humanity finds ways to improve over

00:17:07.380 time if you even look at any of the mainstream christian theologies it has improved over time

00:17:12.340 or it's degraded over time in which case you need to go back to the original church which looks

00:17:17.060 nothing like any of the existing churches like if you're like well yeah christian theology has degraded

00:17:22.420 over time and catholicism is the right choice and it's like well then you need to go back to the

00:17:25.620 what the original catholics believed which is that life doesn't begin at conception and they're like

00:17:29.380 oh i don't want to do that and then it's like well then you think it's improved over time because

00:17:32.180 that's a fairly new catholic belief like 200 years ago it was uh pope pius the ninth you know uh so so

00:17:38.740 we all believe that things are to some extent improve over time and and that being the case knowing

00:17:45.140 that we're not at the moral nexus in history we are challenged to look for where even within

00:17:50.340 conservative cultural frameworks or more right cultural frameworks where are they getting things

00:17:55.460 it's wrong we can push things forward i mean fundamentally that's what based is based is

00:18:01.220 weird people like think based means conservative based doesn't mean conservative based means saying

00:18:06.420 what you believe is true even when you will be shamed by it even yeah i always thought of based as

00:18:11.140 being unapologetically authentic yeah and and so a lot of people are like well that doesn't align

00:18:17.460 with a conservative mindset therefore you're not being based and it's like no we're just saying what

00:18:22.500 we believe is true from the evidence from what we read from the bible and that's may go against what

00:18:28.020 the mainstream conservative influencers say or what was mainstream in conservative culture in the 1950s

00:18:33.140 but that doesn't mean that it goes against any sort of absolute truth so i wanted to make that

00:18:38.260 point but what was that was the other one i was really excited to make here oh yes i mentioned

00:18:41.620 traditionalism versus uh uh normative okay so i love it when people are like why would this tradition

00:18:50.820 have value why would you put any weight on traditionalism right and it's like that is the the collective

00:18:59.140 wisdom of thousands of generations of humanity right that's not like your parents opinions man that is an

00:19:07.620 idea that has been honed and improved and worked on over and over and over and over again generation

00:19:16.100 to generation to generation and then it finally got you to where we are today it's it's not like just

00:19:23.060 an old person's out of touch idea about reality but what is culturally normative when what is culturally 0.97

00:19:30.820 normative isn't traditionalism it's uniquely stupid okay so we need to say that traditionalism definitely 0.95

00:19:36.260 has more value than what's culturally normative but the process that brings us traditionalism is also 0.96

00:19:42.260 one of iterative generational improvement the traditions we have aren't in stone they changed and

00:19:50.500 evolved over time to become better that is the way we are meant to relate to traditions we take the

00:19:57.940 traditions that are handed to us with care and we work to improve them for a new era for new

00:20:04.900 new context and so i think that that's also the thing to to differentiate there is traditionalism

00:20:10.660 versus culturally normative non-traditional values yeah i i also think of the winston churchill quote

00:20:18.020 about someone being angry at you meaning that you actually stood up for something and that's something

00:20:24.100 that i i think is running hand in hand with the concept of being weird that you won't if everyone agrees

00:20:33.300 with you or if you were not controversial in any way if people aren't mad at you you aren't fighting

00:20:40.180 for anything substantive and you're not making a difference and something that we discussed early

00:20:44.980 in our careers was where we could actually make a difference in life and if you are this was in the

00:20:51.860 context of whether you should work with google or not and my argument to you was that in google if you

00:20:56.820 do not take your position where you would make the most optimal decision for whatever department you were put in

00:21:02.820 someone else with equal intelligence and credentials to you roughly speaking would make the same optimal

00:21:08.900 decisions there there would be no difference in the world depending on who was in that role because it

00:21:14.100 was going to be a role in which whoever was there was going to make roughly the same optimal decision

00:21:18.980 and what really mattered was where we would have an impact we would be a delta and you're not going to in

00:21:28.900 society make that impact if if you're just doing what everyone thinks is the inevitable course of

00:21:37.620 society when running correctly you know absolutely agree with you and and to add more color to the

00:21:42.900 anecdote she's talking about here there was a time in my life right at jaw choice between joining a

00:21:46.500 venture capital firm in korea which was like a really risky move for me or taking on a management

00:21:50.820 position at google and she was like differentially you will have more impact on reality if you take

00:21:56.180 the job in korea therefore it's the obvious choice speaking of you know we also look for opportunities

00:22:01.540 to help people in these sorts of spaces so that said if anyone here is looking to buy server space for ai

00:22:09.460 stuff we are looking to find somebody interested in that right now for a side project that i've taken on

00:22:15.300 because i think it could change the course of ai development and of course now that's an inflection

00:22:19.300 point in human history so that's why i'm i'm focused on it now by the way the the churchill quote is

00:22:25.060 you have enemies good that means you've stood up for something sometime in your life

00:22:30.340 and i love that yeah no people are like how do you feel about people online making fun of you and

00:22:35.700 it's like well you see here is the thing i've met the average human if the average human disapproves of me

00:22:42.900 i'm probably doing something right uh the average human sucks oh my god uh but yeah it's it's it's 0.63

00:22:54.580 absolutely wild now to you simone how did you grow up thinking about this term weird would you have 0.94

00:23:00.020 thought about the term weird as like an intrinsically negative term growing up or would you have taken it

00:23:04.820 as a compliment i would have taken it as a compliment which is another reason why i find this

00:23:10.420 this campaign tactic so perplexing it i thought that everyone when asked who they were in high

00:23:20.580 school the default as a joke as a trope answer was i was the weird one i floated between crowds you

00:23:27.460 know i didn't affiliate with really anyone and i thought that everyone saw themselves as weird and and

00:23:34.100 considered themselves weird and the fact that they're attacking someone is weird i thought

00:23:40.420 well they're only going to alienate themselves from everyone who identifies as weird apparently

00:23:45.060 i was incorrect in this being a pervasive trope did am i missing something here or was that actually a

00:23:51.140 thing no i thought it was a thing too i always thought weird was a good thing right like or at least

00:23:56.260 it was how people personally identified so if you saw other people accusing someone of being weird

00:24:01.060 it's that same effect that i said about uh freaks that if you saw someone being someone calling

00:24:06.980 someone else weirdo or freak they would think the name caller was the bad guy not the name called

00:24:14.740 well and i think that this this sort of shows that the progressive party has become a party of

00:24:18.180 people desperate to fit in desperate to not be criticized if you were desperate to fit in you'd be

00:24:22.820 like we're all weirdos here and like we're inclusive i thought that was the thing i thought that was

00:24:27.140 dangerous once they got cultural control of society no now the weirdos are the bad guys they're the cool

00:24:33.220 kids and i'd also like to point out here that some people be like how can you be saying this trump's

00:24:38.420 the bully not camilla look at the way he acted in like his early debates where he would make fun of

00:24:44.740 people and i was like okay come on bro in trump's early debates when he was debating against like the

00:24:49.940 other conservatives to win the ticket he was hands down seen as the underdog he was a giant political

00:24:58.340 institution that was constantly making fun of him saying his political campaign was a joke nobody took

00:25:04.260 him seriously nobody took him seriously and constantly constantly clowned on him he was the guy going up

00:25:11.140 he's the the little nerdy kid who you saw getting bullied and then like turns out to know karate or

00:25:17.220 something no no here's the problem is you haven't seen it but in 16 candles he's the blonde nerd and

00:25:23.380 it for those who haven't seen the movie including you malcolm in in the movie there is this character 0.90

00:25:28.500 who's kind of like the bully of the nerds who comes up to them and is like i'm gonna i'm gonna have sex 0.87

00:25:33.700 with this girl you know i'm gonna like get her panties and then he does get her panties but he doesn't 0.99

00:25:38.100 actually have sex with her he just convinces her to loan her panties to him so he can tell his friends 0.99

00:25:43.700 that he had sex with her trump yeah but like that's trump trump is like just i want to like 0.99

00:25:48.180 i want to be cool i want people to see that i'm cool and he he may come across as a bully sometimes 0.96

00:25:52.580 i think mostly because he's fronting he wants people no no it's not because he does unless you

00:25:58.340 are completely brainwashed trump never looked like a bully to you if you are brainwashed then you're like

00:26:03.460 anyone who fights the urban monoculture automatically bad but trump well okay come on the name calling the

00:26:09.380 the the you know he does yeah but he was clearly in a position of non-power he had a giant political

00:26:16.180 apparatus that was against him on both sides he had an entire press he wants to be seen as a

00:26:23.860 powerful boy regardless you're fired come on malcolm most nerds want to be seen as powerful there's the

00:26:30.980 famous line at the end of revenge of the nerds where the one character goes well i'm a nerd which is

00:26:35.620 something i just learned today you know you you don't like you don't get the nerd card okay simone

00:26:42.340 but when he was making fun of whether it was the press or it was his political opponents these were

00:26:49.540 people with power over him that had been acting in bad faith against him yeah it was exactly to

00:26:56.180 everyone who was watching this with any level of cultural sanity the nerd in the high school that

00:27:02.420 you know a hallway who didn't get stopped by a group of like three beefy bullies who are picking

00:27:08.660 on him like and then he ends up just verbally owning them and then like he's like yeah but you know your

00:27:15.220 mom doesn't love you and it's getting a divorce and they like run off crying or something people can be

00:27:20.260 like whoa that was a low blow the truth is is everybody who saw what went down is like thank god that

00:27:26.740 little squirrely guy stood up for himself and every every other little squirrely guy out there that is

00:27:33.380 what he represented in those moments and you can be like well that's he reacted to their bullying like

00:27:38.900 you look at the oh what about the reporter who had that disability but it's like yeah but did you read

00:27:44.180 the piece that he wrote about trump did you like are you just pretending that he did nothing to that he

00:27:50.100 didn't have power over trump that he's supposed to be able to like write whatever he wants to do

00:27:55.780 whatever he wants without trump overstepping in the same way that he overstepped in his position

00:28:02.260 of power in society and i think that this is the thing it's very much like a how can he slap moment

00:28:07.140 progressives are so used to making fun of and clowning on and telling white lies from their 0.99

00:28:14.580 perspective about their opponents go on bitch say something funny uh oh it's getting mad jack let's 1.00

00:28:23.060 just get out of here okay yeah puss run away go ahead bitch say something funny make me laugh 1.00

00:28:41.060 and then when their opponents fight back they're like oh my god you can't do that you're a lower 1.00

00:28:51.460 cast member than me in our society my cast is allowed to goon on your cast but you're not allowed to do

00:28:57.460 anything to us of course and i think that you're you're playing into their well basically lie that that

00:29:05.460 trump was acting with any level of cultural authority in those moments once trump was actually

00:29:10.900 president once he actually had power he did fairly little actually picking on people and this is

00:29:17.940 something yeah locker up kind of stopped and and he didn't look the progressives literally tried to

00:29:25.140 lock him up he didn't when he got power all of that stuff for him was because and allowed like by his

00:29:34.500 set of morals allowed because he was in a position of less power not not it wasn't stuff that he did

00:29:40.180 when he became president and he did it even less than previous republican presidents like back when

00:29:44.420 the republican ethos was like the dominant ethos and you look at like the george bush era it was like

00:29:49.540 well known that he would constantly make fun of his like staffers like lightly right but i'll put

00:29:55.220 the uh clip here from um 30 rock where he gets the nickname burger like five seconds after meeting

00:30:01.460 bush because that was the type of guy he was he was from a dominant culture and he was used

00:30:06.180 to using it to sort of signal his power over other people but trump didn't do that and he also didn't

00:30:13.300 really front you know look at him always getting his like mcdonald's and everything like that you know

00:30:18.020 he had weird cultural things but they weren't high class cultural things like is a gold toilet high

00:30:23.620 class or trashy right a gold toilet and mcdonald's burgers is the trashiest thing i can imagine it's just 0.87

00:30:30.260 rich trashy you know he wasn't actually culturally fronting he was being himself it is nerdy but i 0.94

00:30:38.500 mean do you have other thoughts on this or no i i think that that's accurate and i i still can't get

00:30:45.460 over it i i can't get over that we've gotten to the point where the the party that used to be about

00:30:52.660 letting your freak flag fly has become the party that literally accuses its opponents of being

00:31:00.820 weird but even think about the things that they're accusing them of jd vance wears eyeliner

00:31:06.500 yeah i thought eyeliner belonged to the left they should be like stop appropriating our eyeliner jd vance

00:31:12.660 no but they're like he's the weird kid let's pick on him yeah and and also you know sex with 0.98

00:31:18.900 the couch i thought we were sex positive this is horrible yeah is that not like a classic weirdo 0.98

00:31:25.380 kid who then ends up making a billion dollar thing to do like yeah but also he didn't do it

00:31:31.300 you know he didn't do it but what i'm saying is even the fictions that they're creating yeah even

00:31:36.660 yeah even the figure are power fantasies around bullying someone to create a fiction like no it's

00:31:42.740 so classic it's like the it's like something that mean girls would make up in a high school

00:31:47.460 that like oh so and so had sex with the couch that that's it's what like shelby the the mean 1.00

00:31:55.620 cheerleader who hates cheryl i'm bad at names but yeah i it's it's it's juvenile in invention i mean it's 0.89

00:32:06.020 funny and i'm sure someone came up with it that you know they were very clever to do so but oh my

00:32:12.100 god i need to take it aside here to talk about like how much dems don't get it wait what the the video 1.00

00:32:19.620 from kennedy that unfortunately he's probably gonna hurt trump because it connects with like base people

00:32:24.020 so much if he has this video and i'll see if i put it here about running into a a bear okay so

00:32:31.780 bear roadkill he's a bear right kill story like like make fun of him they're like what a weirdo

00:32:37.860 to like put a bear in central park and then i'll play the video here release the highlights from it

00:32:44.660 and that woman in a van in front of me hit a bear and killed it a young bear so i pulled over and i picked

00:32:55.700 up the bear and put him in the back of my van because i was going to skin the bear and it was very

00:33:00.580 good condition and i was going to and put the meat in my refrigerator and you can do that in new york

00:33:06.980 state you can get a bear tag for a roadkill bear so we stayed late and instead of going back to my

00:33:14.260 home in leicester i had to go right to the city because there was a dinner at peter luker steakhouse

00:33:22.020 and at the end of the dinner it went late and i realized i couldn't go home i had to go to the airport

00:33:27.460 and the bear was in my car and i didn't want to leave the bear in the car um because that would

00:33:34.260 have been bad so then i thought you know at that time this was the little bit of the redneck in me

00:33:44.740 there'd been a series of bicycle accidents in new york they had just put in the bike lanes

00:33:49.140 and saw people a couple of people that got killed and it was every day and people had gotten badly

00:33:54.260 injured every day it was in the press and so i thought i wasn't drinking of course but people

00:34:02.900 were drinking like me who thought this was a good idea and i said i had an old bike in my car that

00:34:09.860 somebody asked me to get rid of it i said let's go put the bear in central park and we'll make it

00:34:13.940 look like it look like you got in my life it'll be fun and funny for people so everybody thought

00:34:20.740 that's a great idea so we went and did that and we thought it would be amusing for whoever found it or

00:34:26.660 something the next day it was like it was on every television station it was the front page of every

00:34:35.700 paper and i turned on the tv and there was like mile of yellow tape and there were 20 cop cars

00:34:41.060 there were helicopters flying over it and i was like oh my god what did i do and uh and then they

00:34:51.220 were there was some people on tv and type accidents with gloves on lifting up the bike and they're

00:34:57.060 saying they're going to take this up to albany to get a finger friend and uh

00:35:03.220 uh i was worried because my friends were all over that bike

00:35:11.700 luckily um the uh the story died after a while and uh and it stayed dead for a decade and um the new

00:35:22.740 yorker somehow found out about it and they just they're gonna do a big article on me and that's one

00:35:27.780 one of the articles so they asked me the fact record is dead you know it's gonna be a bad story

00:35:38.340 and then you watch this video and if you're like a patriotic american you're coming away from this

00:35:43.220 like this guy is amazing like yeah a he's the type of guy who like sees bear roadkill and his first

00:35:51.860 thought is i bet i could skin that yeah skin it and freeze the meat this is an opportunity there

00:35:57.380 you know and also that he knew the roadkill laws yeah well it's legal in new york so it should be

00:36:02.420 fine to break him away from this kennedy stereotype of like being out of touch and you're like oh no

00:36:06.980 this guy f's i know well but okay here's what i want i want your take on and maybe base campers want

00:36:13.300 to know this too who is kennedy going to draw votes from is he going to draw votes from trump or from

00:36:21.460 from kamala harris with stuff like this i mean this is the most authentic thing i've ever seen

00:36:25.940 then that he he gets he gets to new york and he's like oh gosh i gotta go to an airport i can't leave

00:36:30.580 the bear in my car what do i do is it oh i know what i'll do i'll put it in a bike lane and then take

00:36:35.860 an old bike and and put it next to it like somebody crashed into the bear to try to clown on bikers

00:36:42.340 and it's like here's the thing everybody hates bikers pedestrians hate bikers cars hate bikers the

00:36:49.060 only people who don't like bikers are obsessive bikers that guy no man other bicyclists hate

00:36:53.940 bikers the only time i've ever been hit by a bike is when i was on a bike oh i i'm gonna post a video

00:36:59.620 of the it crowd biker boss guy but like i had a guy like this a biker at my office who would come in

00:37:05.220 and like with his outfit yeah just so you knew he's a biker there's like biker cleats yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:37:13.540 so i i see this that i'm like oh my god that is one i love that you are like you know non-pretentious 0.55

00:37:20.340 and backwards enough to see roadkill and immediately think skin it two you're cool enough to clown on 0.81

00:37:26.900 bikers like come on that's fun man well then isn't trump screwed then if kennedy is gonna draw votes 0.78

00:37:34.660 from him nobody really cares i i mean look kennedy is is not gonna matter that much in this election

00:37:42.740 but i i will say that i gained a lot more respect for him after seeing this and this is such a good

00:37:47.220 example of media baiting where the progressives think that some fact that they are delivering to

00:37:51.620 you is going to make you hate a person and then a normal american watches it and they're like that guy

00:37:55.780 is so cool well he also he handled this in the perfect way possible basically he hoped that this story

00:38:02.260 would stay dead for what 30 years yeah and he had the new yorker call him to fact check it realized oh

00:38:11.300 shit this is finally coming out i thought this would never come out and then decided to release a video

00:38:17.140 about it and he released the video in the best possible way it wasn't him facing a camera saying

00:38:23.780 this is what happened i'm sorry it was him sitting at a table talking to like in a room there's at least

00:38:29.620 two other people there are clearly more but mostly like a woman who's kind of leaning against a coffee 1.00

00:38:34.180 table and at first the woman looks kind of just kind of bored and disinterested or maybe a little bit

00:38:41.460 mad at him and then everyone just starts cracking up as his story plays out and as you're watching

00:38:47.220 this woman you're with her you're having this journey with her as you're hearing this story and

00:38:51.620 you're cracking up with her and it was it was perfectly done i don't know how intentional all

00:38:57.620 of it was but he had a masterful approach i love this before we sign out what is the one another

00:39:05.540 thing that they've been attacking jd vance for being weird for it i want to hear your response to this

00:39:09.140 the weird cat lady oh the childless cat lady 2021 comment on twitter that he will now there's an op-ed

00:39:18.740 in the new york times there's an op-ed in the new yorker i mean everyone has an opinion

00:39:23.380 about him calling people out for being childless cat ladies we used to know that old maid was a bad 1.00

00:39:29.700 thing that being a cat lady was a bad thing but now the progressives are like a party of cat ladies 1.00

00:39:34.820 and they're like how dare he they call her the cat lady people say she's crazy just because she has a few

00:39:41.620 dozen cats well i love his response and one of his responses in a tv interview recently was i have

00:39:52.100 nothing against cats which is uh that's a great apology they're like i'm not a cat lady i just have

00:40:01.540 one cat she'll become a crazy cat lady she only has one cat give her time because no it's it's we've 1.00

00:40:10.260 got to shame this stuff and there was actually a progressive outlet that i think it was in new

00:40:13.860 york times you were saying that said actually he's right to be shaming this the new york no the new

00:40:18.420 york times op-ed that i read was not it was it was shaming him for saying that because for example he

00:40:24.900 pointed out that many people who are childless are not childless by choice that he criticized for

00:40:29.460 example pete buddha judge about being childless and being one of the many childless lawmakers that's

00:40:35.540 dictating the lives of american families when at that time he didn't know this of course no one

00:40:40.100 do this but pete buddha judge and his husband had just faced a major setback in their adoption journey

00:40:44.660 which is heartbreaking right so the the point that this uh progressive new york times op-ed contributor

00:40:49.940 was making was that it's not really fair to criticize childless people and shame them because

00:40:56.100 you never know what's going on with them and it's actually quite sad that growing numbers of people

00:40:59.620 under 50 are reporting that they're not they don't expect to ever have kids because many of those

00:41:03.380 people want kids so you know he he still shamed him and i i i'm with you and i are clear on our

00:41:08.900 stance that perinatalism should not be about shaming people but you know anything that people say on

00:41:14.420 twitter you are clear on that i'm clear i think that it should involve a component of i know you

00:41:19.300 never wanted to be child free i did and i understand that lifestyle and i respect it and i think it's

00:41:24.100 totally fine and people who want to be child free should be child free they didn't have positions of

00:41:27.940 power in society no no no peachy keenan is on board with me peachy keenan has argued the best possible

00:41:34.980 thing is that the people who want to be child free are going to be child free let them be child

00:41:39.860 free okay i guess you're right we don't want to yeah we don't want to pressure somebody you're right

00:41:43.220 because then they're having kids for social status and that's yes there's nothing worse than than

00:41:47.460 someone bringing in an unwanted child that's not going to be given the best possible child and the best

00:41:51.380 possible shot at life anyway the the larger point is that when something is posted on twitter

00:41:58.020 like twitter is for trolling okay you i don't any shaming that takes place on twitter doesn't

00:42:04.260 count as shaming because it is twitter it is where you trash talk okay this is not

00:42:11.460 another thing you mentioned about this article is the number one upvoted comment under it

00:42:15.300 was wouldn't it be better if humanity went extinct right so the new york times outfit that i'm referring

00:42:19.300 to that malcolm is referring to which we can link to in the in the description basically was a progressive

00:42:24.660 argument for pronatalism it was saying that the demographic collapse does affect everyone

00:42:29.060 including progressives and that while jd vance's approach to the issue based on shaming and that his

00:42:35.060 policy stances that don't include support for single parents that don't support lgbtq plus whatever

00:42:41.380 marriages etc is not the answer that we still need a progressive answer optimally from the press view

00:42:48.660 in the form of social services for oh i have to take a donor call can i okay take it all right i love

00:42:54.420 you i'm muting myself and seeing if i can finish up prenatalism matters to everyone that was the

00:42:58.820 argument that was being made in the op-ed and then the the number one comment that was upvoted in this

00:43:06.100 new york times op-ed was well but honestly wouldn't it be better if there were no humans left in the

00:43:12.260 world like isn't human extinction kind of okay which is and you know what i tweeted that i tweeted that

00:43:17.220 saying this is why prognatalism is a right wing coded article and the author of the op-ed retweeted it

00:43:22.660 because i think he's equally frustrated he's like i tried i tried and and no one's listening and so

00:43:28.660 he gets it now he understands retweeted your tweet that's amazing he retweeted it he retweeted it yeah

00:43:34.740 have a good day i'm gonna go

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Based Camp - August 07, 2024

Why Progressives Need to Bully People for Being ＂Weird＂

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