Based Camp - Why the Left Can't Mentally Model the Right

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone! I'm excited to be here with you today. Today is going to be an episode where we're going to go over a few research papers that explore lefty and righty brains again, really interestingly, but with a focus on a persistent phenomenon that has been found, which is that people on the right politically have a much easier time modeling how people on the left think than people on the left able to model people on the right.

00:00:27.200 That is so strange. That is so strange.

00:00:30.000 I grew up thinking, as someone on the left, that we were the empathetic ones, that we understood everyone better and we knew what everyone we needed. How can we get this so wrong?

00:00:39.440 It's not just that. We're going to go into other things. Speaking of them not being empathetic, just to give a little thing away here. There were four studies with nearly 4,800 participants in the UK and the US to look at how much empathy each side had for their political opponents.

00:00:57.840 This was called Empathetic Conservatives and Moralizing Liberals. Political intergroup empathy varies by political ideology and is explained by moral judgment.

00:01:06.760 So what it showed is that liberals have less empathy for conservatives than conservatives have of liberals.

00:01:15.200 This actually makes a lot of sense, too, because I remember being on the left growing up, having empathy for the entire world, but still seeing conservatives as this inhuman boogeyman.

00:01:28.200 Yeah.

00:01:29.200 So that actually checks out. That's wild.

00:01:33.200 Conservatives do not dehumanize lefties, but lefties do dehumanize conservatives.

00:01:37.640 They do. They do.

00:01:38.640 And this is seen in the data. This study was like, surprisingly, conservatives showed more empathy for liberals than liberals showed of conservatives. This asymmetry was found across studies and was statistically reliable.

00:01:49.300 Why is it surprising? Maybe it's surprising because of your own biases going into the study.

00:01:53.960 And I love the way the study explained this away. It's like, well, this is actually justified because lefties believe conservatives want to kill them and conservatives don't think lefties want to kill them. 0.77

00:02:03.800 And I was like, well, but conservatives don't want to kill them. So it's not. This is like saying the Nazis were justified because blood libel.

00:02:12.260 They're like, yeah, well, they did think the Jews were murdering their babies.

00:02:15.660 But it's like, yeah, but the Jews weren't murdering their babies. That doesn't make their ideology justified.

00:02:20.460 What are you talking about? Now, I note here that there was a great study done on the nature of the dehumanization, which I think helped.

00:02:27.360 So this was the study, Political Meta Dehumanization in Mental Representations, Divergent Emphasis in the Minds of Liberals vs. Conservatives.

00:02:34.920 And this study found that liberals and conservatives differed in how they dehumanize the other, at least in the framing of this study.

00:02:42.440 Okay.

00:02:43.020 So what this study found was that conservatives tend to view liberals as immature, while liberals see conservatives as savage, which is true.

00:02:53.620 But one is like a pitying, like if you had more information.

00:02:57.760 Yeah. Yeah. You're just misinformed. You're just, you're not exposed to the world as it is.

00:03:02.860 I love how they're like, that's dehumanization. It's not dehumanization. That's just like, actually the way it is.

00:03:08.540 If I believe that if they, if you actually empathize with someone and see them as human, you're going to think that the reason they hold these views is they just don't have access to as much information as you.

00:03:18.240 Yeah, that you must know something that they don't know. And then that's why you view what you view. Yes.

00:03:22.240 Yes. Which, which is framed as.

00:03:24.680 I remember viewing conservatives as a leftist young lady.

00:03:29.700 No. And I remember I was a leftist at one point too. And I remember conservatives are the savages who live in the woods and are religious extremists and don't know any scary Bible thumping cultist monsters who don't care about other people at all.

00:03:47.720 And just want you to live like them. And yeah. So I want to talk about like what creates this phenomenon. 0.98

00:03:52.680 Yeah. And, and I should note the first study that I was mentioning that led to all of this. I heard one guy point out, this was short fight otaku, say that in one study, it was actually that lefties were three X worse the rate of conservatives in terms of modeling them.

00:04:06.700 Oh my gosh.

00:04:07.380 That exact study. So I don't know where exactly who it's getting that from, but it seems believable given what I've seen. And we recently.

00:04:14.760 Oh, wait, no, no, no, no. This was what if altist who said that it's while we were.

00:04:18.100 Oh yeah. But what if altist who said that? Yeah. Not short fight otaku. And this was a great video by what if altist, by the way, he's totally back. He's got some fun videos.

00:04:24.560 The one that you missed that I thought was really good was on, and you should check it out. It was on the anti-civilization, looking at how the steps kept producing people in groups that went out and destroyed all of this various civilizations of the world, whether it was the Chinese, whether it was the Europeans, whether it was the Indians.

00:04:43.280 And this one region of the world, like in Civ, like a spawn tour, just kept spawning the things that destroyed civilization. Yeah. Wait, the Reapers, how do you know Mass Effect?

00:04:55.940 Well, in Serenity, there were. Oh, this is a different universe, whatever.

00:05:05.400 But anyway, yes, very interesting. And we might do a different video on that idea, because I think it's really interesting, the idea of an anti-civilization. Although I'd go further, and I'd say that their civilization is the anti-Jews. They are the exact antithesis of Jewish history, i.e. 0.86

00:05:22.120 Oh, because they're, well, if Jews represent order and process. And living in urban centers. These represent anarchy and distribution. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And having a vested interest in maintaining a stable status quo, these individuals. 1.00

00:05:38.020 They are entropy. Entropy incarnate. They lived almost entirely outside of cities, almost entirely with the benefit of the status quo being destroyed. Interesting, yeah.

00:05:47.640 Very, very interesting to go into, but that's for another episode. But anyway, so he pointed that out, and I don't think that Rubyard lies about stuff. He seems to know his stuff, so he got it from somewhere. But what I was getting from Short Fattery Taku was a really interesting instance of this that happened recently.

00:06:03.700 Okay.

00:06:03.960 Where an individual named Bunis, or Bunny or something, who was a trans game maker, so one of our friends, Stuttering Craig, who does Side Scrollers, which is a conservative-leaning video game podcast, the number one video game podcast, I think.

00:06:17.640 He did this, like, just focused on, like, video game news. He put together a reward show called the Real Gamer Awards. And Bunlis' game, Nightmare Cart, ended up winning. People would pay to vote, and the idea was to build an award show without any of the political bias.

00:06:35.540 Nice.

00:06:35.780 And they really wanted to do that. They wanted one that didn't have the lefty bias, that didn't have the righty bias. It was just like, these are games that we love.

00:06:42.380 And this person, because they were so bad at modeling the modern right and what the modern right is striving for, did some tweet about how they were-

00:06:53.380 Or just game enthusiasts.

00:06:54.680 Yeah, how they were-

00:06:55.380 Well, I mean, he is a genuine righty, but the genuine righties today are just fighting for a fair playing field for everyone.

00:07:03.460 And they were unable to see this. So they reached out and they said, because the general righties don't have control of our culture right now. Our culture is controlled by the urban monoculture, which attempts to impose itself on everyone through media, through news, through leftist policy.

00:07:17.320 And the right just wants everyone to be treated equally, regardless of your gender, sexuality, skin color, et cetera.

00:07:23.700 You know, we've had reporters do double takes on us, where I was like, yeah, I believe that someone should only be promoted based on meritocracy.

00:07:29.700 But they were like, are you sure you don't want to rephrase that? And I was like, no.

00:07:34.680 I'm comfortable with that.

00:07:35.820 Famous racist who said, I believe that we should judge people on the content of their character, not the color of their skin. You know, that's who I agree with. 0.99

00:07:43.500 But anyway, so this person, Bunnus, they ended up winning one of the categories.

00:07:47.460 And of course, the people knew that they were trans. Nobody cared that they were trans.

00:07:51.540 They had made a good game that didn't have a lot of politics in it.

00:07:54.820 It was a racing game. It was called Nightmare Cart.

00:07:57.240 And it was like a redo of like other other racing games.

00:07:59.780 So anyway, they won. This individual said, oh, I'm going to go have gay trans sex was my like great gay trans girlfriend, furry sex or whatever. 1.00

00:08:09.560 And they expected the people running this to be like, I hate you. 1.00

00:08:13.920 How could you do that? How could you? Oh, no, we screwed up giving this to a transfer. 0.97

00:08:17.540 And they were like, no, cool. Like, do what you want. Like, we're just trying to, you know, award you for your work.

00:08:22.600 And they then freaked out about this.

00:08:24.900 And they it was clear that they didn't understand the people who were hosting this award show at all, that the award show just wanted to genuinely help them and didn't care what their gender was.

00:08:34.940 And so then they were like, I won't take the award, even though they had already accepted the award.

00:08:40.600 And like, you didn't ask me for permission to give me this award. 0.99

00:08:43.920 And this was, you know, and then a lot of people started hating them because they were basically being a jerk. Right. 1.00

00:08:49.960 And even in their own internal understanding of the story, even still, they believe that the people hosting the show were like upset or didn't know that they were trans, which just wasn't the case.

00:09:01.560 They just don't care. Yeah, they were voting on the game.

00:09:04.980 Yeah, they were voting on the game. Right.

00:09:08.720 And so we need to ask, why aren't they capable of seeing this?

00:09:11.680 Like, why aren't they?

00:09:13.560 And I think it's because the left has a big problem right now.

00:09:18.120 If they admitted the political reality within which they find themselves, a core part of their narrative begins to dissolve in a way that makes it hard to continue to support the left.

00:09:32.500 And this is why they're so bad at modeling the right, which is they genuinely believe that the right is a group fighting to culturally oppress them or imposition them.

00:09:46.020 And they cannot see that the right just wants to be able to live life the way they want to live life, to just do what they want, to be able to work at jobs without being discriminated against, to be able to play video games without them having gone through some sort of council that makes them, you know, obviously not produced by the best writers, obviously not produced by the best game makers, or they'd be good.

00:10:11.640 You know, and we know this, like video games used to be good before you guys took over, right?

00:10:16.040 Like, if you made games that were woke and good, as we have repeatedly seen, like, okay, you're like, oh, the right won't buy a game that's woke and good.

00:10:24.320 What about Baldur's Gate 3?

00:10:25.920 Like, that was the wokest I've ever seen.

00:10:28.660 And you could choose to play, you know, a trans character who hadn't gone through gender reassignment yet.

00:10:35.440 You know, like, that was such a woke game.

00:10:37.980 And I loved it.

00:10:39.040 The rest of the world loved it.

00:10:40.220 We talked positively about it on our shows. 0.87

00:10:42.260 What we hate isn't trans individuals. 1.00

00:10:45.700 It's trans individuals who make shitty games, who use our money from, like, previous games we supported before these individuals started ruining them to destroy the quality of something that we care about. 1.00

00:11:02.060 Whether it's, you know, Acolyte or, you know, Veil Guard. 0.96

00:11:05.700 And as we've, you can look at our Wachowski effect with Veil Guard, you can be like, well, these individuals were involved with the previous games.

00:11:11.960 And it's like, yes, but after people become infected with the urban monocultural mind virus, they get really bad at everything.

00:11:18.920 Often.

00:11:19.680 Not always, but often.

00:11:21.000 Particularly with, like, narrative storytelling.

00:11:23.640 Why was Nightmare Cart able to still be good?

00:11:26.780 It's because I think you could be heavily infected with the urban monocultural mind virus and still be a good engineer or still be good at, like, non-narrative-based games.

00:11:34.980 You're just very bad at, like, creating narrative experiences often because you struggle to understand what people who aren't like you see in the world.

00:11:44.860 And that's why games within that category are so rare.

00:11:48.100 Hmm.

00:11:49.960 I guess I could see that.

00:11:51.560 Yeah.

00:11:52.420 So it's understanding.

00:11:53.820 Because if they could put their mind in somebody like Stuttering Craig, right, they would understand that what he wants is just the best games to win.

00:12:02.120 Yeah.

00:12:02.920 Yeah.

00:12:03.400 He just likes games.

00:12:05.200 Well, that's, I mean, I was under the, I don't, I don't know him as well as you do.

00:12:08.480 I was under the impression that he was only right insofar as Gamergate pushed a bunch of people to the right.

00:12:15.200 And also anyone who actually cared about games became opposed to the urban monoculture was, which was actively killing good games.

00:12:22.780 Well, yeah, and I think that this is something we're seeing across the board here with the modern right, which is that the urban monoculture created them by taking the things they care about and making them terrible.

00:12:34.500 A lot of the left thought in the urban monoculture thought that if it could gain control of Star Wars, if it could gain control of the Assassin's Creed series, if it could gain control of these studios, that it would be able to use that control to finesse or sort of impose their cultural ideology on the people who were consuming that product.

00:12:57.740 And that may have worked had they focused on also making those games good.

00:13:03.960 But no, because gaining control of the studios also became affiliated with their sort of DEI promote people based on their beliefs, not based on their beliefs or their race or their sexuality or their gender presentation, and not based on their competency.

00:13:20.740 It was associated with bad products.

00:13:23.420 And as the, what's he called again, the troll guy, we have a big overlap with him three or whatever.

00:13:28.880 He, he, he, he said, if they had only not come for our games, like we were happy.

00:13:34.180 If you had just not with our games, we wouldn't have cared.

00:13:39.680 And this is the way like all of nerd culture was like nerd culture used to be a solidly lefty thing.

00:13:45.100 And now nerd culture is solidly right wing, pretty much across the board, except for the people who still control like the, the, the, the conventions and stuff, because these are the large bureaucratic orgs.

00:13:56.640 It really was the gaming that did it too.

00:13:58.880 It really was the gaming, like did you not with gaming, but the more I think about it, it wasn't just gaming.

00:14:05.780 It was the Star Wars nerds.

00:14:07.780 It was the Star Trek nerds.

00:14:09.400 It was the, you know, everybody who liked this stuff for its quality and who like had a genuine attachment to it feels genuinely betrayed.

00:14:21.960 That's so bad.

00:14:24.320 That's so bad.

00:14:25.460 Oh my gosh.

00:14:27.180 But what are your thoughts?

00:14:28.180 I mean, do you have a different take on why the left can't model the right?

00:14:36.220 I think that it, a lot of it comes down to isolation that for whatever reason.

00:14:43.480 And you see this in graphs of friendship, that people, and especially women who are left leaning, are actively uncomfortable with having friends who are on the right, and they actively shun friends who are on the right.

00:14:58.660 And when you look at the same rates of exchange, people who are, who report on surveys as being conservative also report as having a few progressive friends.

00:15:09.100 So for some reason, there's this selective cultural isolationism, whereby a lot of conservatives are perfectly happy to be friends with progressive people, which would give them more ability to model them.

00:15:24.060 The more time you spend around someone, the more you're able to model them, right?

00:15:27.540 There's just a lot less willingness on the part of progressives to be friends with conservatives.

00:15:34.220 Now, the question would be, when you look at these graphs, well, how is it that you have conservatives who are friends with progressives and progressives who have no friends who are conservative?

00:15:45.100 I think that maybe there are just some progressives who are friends with lots of conservatives and they're unusual, but I think what's more likely is there's a lot of conservatives that just hide the fact that they're conservatives and are therefore friends with them.

00:15:57.140 Well, this is like a known thing.

00:15:58.820 Like I, well, until I got famous, I had lots of friends who didn't know I had conservative views even after my views had started.

00:16:05.520 And well, we know plenty of people who were like, yeah, I totally agree with you, but I would never say that in public.

00:16:09.680 Like, so I guess that's what's going on is that there are a lot of sneaky conservatives or closet conservatives that are able to model progressives really well because they're friends with a bunch of them and progressives just can't.

00:16:23.280 And this is a fascinating point when we talk about cultural imposition being the hallmark of modern progressivism is the very fact that people need to be closeted shows which direction the cultural pressure is going.

00:16:36.520 And the same way you needed to be like a closeted gang in the 90s or something like that, you knew you would face cultural repercussions for, you know, and today you knew you would face cultural repercussions if you wanted a game show that was completely meritocratic, you know, and so you hide that, you know, I see this was the message thread was my class, you know, people crazy, like they're like all these Nazis and everything like that.

00:17:00.720 And I'm like not even replying, right, because I'm like, I seem to remember you guys like marching through the street starting from the river to the sea, like you guys actually supporting the people who want to exterminate the Jews. 0.83

00:17:12.100 And this isn't like a fringe thing.

00:17:14.660 This is like Claudia Gay, the woman who literally ran.

00:17:17.860 Claudine Gay, that number one, like educational institution being like, well, you know, we shouldn't punish people for saying stuff about Jews, like, obviously, you know, this is a dehumanization of the Jews on the left.

00:17:32.420 This is a breaking society into an ethnic hierarchy within the mainstream of the left.

00:17:37.360 And the people who are fighting against us genuinely want a meritocratic society, i.e. what Martin Luther King was fighting for.

00:17:44.620 But I think that the left still tells itself that that's what it's doing, like that it's unable to see that its actions no longer do that.

00:17:55.500 And therefore, the people who actually wanted that but are free of it oppose it.

00:17:59.620 And I think that this also comes down to a question that I have had for a long time, which is, why is it that the right and right-leaning influencers seem more prone to audience capture than left-leaning influencers?

00:18:13.060 So if you're not familiar with audience capture, this is where an individual may start as a centrist and then become more and more in line with whichever political direction they were leaning because they end up developing an audience that is more extreme than them was in that political direction.

00:18:31.360 Right.

00:18:31.760 And this happens much faster towards the right, influencers who are centrist moving towards the right than influencers who are centrist moving towards the left.

00:18:39.620 And I think that the reason for this is actually due to the false narrative of their opponent that the left relies on to maintain its followers or its supporters, which is to say that once you begin to challenge the narrative that is normal and allowed within society and you see that they have been lying to you, it is much harder to go back.

00:19:08.100 Whereas if you start as a centrist and you begin to challenge things in a left-leaning direction, you are not going to see as many, oh, here's all of the places the right lied to me about this.

00:19:20.960 Because the right is honestly right now, because it's not the right of the past.

00:19:25.560 It's not like a religious right.

00:19:27.020 Like you see people go, for example, anti-trans, they're not doing that for like religious reasons anymore.

00:19:33.020 The main activists, whether it's like JK Rowling or Elon or whatever, right?

00:19:36.820 It's because they gained access to more information.

00:19:40.000 And you also see a pattern of when people entertain the right, specifically influencers or right-leaning ideas, they are pushed further right by anyone on the left.

00:19:52.380 And Joe Rogan is a great example of this.

00:19:54.840 Oh, yeah.

00:19:55.820 The left was like, we need a lefty Joe Rogan.

00:19:58.000 We need a Joe Rogan of the left.

00:19:59.500 Joe Rogan was Joe Rogan of the left.

00:20:02.100 You guys made him right-wing by attacking him whenever he talked to somebody on the other side.

00:20:07.140 Yeah.

00:20:08.320 And the question here, is this going to happen to Gavin Newsom?

00:20:10.660 He's going to talk to some right-wing individuals and he's eventually going to be like, wait a second.

00:20:14.960 Were they right all along?

00:20:17.460 Like I didn't, I didn't, I didn't.

00:20:18.740 Well, he's definitely getting points for hosting a podcast in which he has active, deep conversations with people who are on the right.

00:20:28.800 And if anyone knows how to contact him, let us know, because I would love to chat with him.

00:20:32.160 But it's, I think that's one reason why he is winning over so much respect from the right.

00:20:41.340 Like, oh my gosh, this, this progressive mainstay, this staple is actually listening to us.

00:20:49.480 This is insane.

00:20:51.200 Because conservatives are never listening to you.

00:20:54.740 I don't think so.

00:20:56.000 I don't think so.

00:20:56.540 Because he is playing a very, very, very long game and he is the slickest of slick political operators and he's going for president.

00:21:03.300 And he's not going to leave his party and he knows, he's, what he cares about more than the truth is winning.

00:21:09.420 And he wants to win as a Democrat, a Democratic candidate in the next presidential election.

00:21:15.600 I will say that this is like an interesting phenomenon as well.

00:21:19.220 That when lefts learn to emphasize was the right, they often become the right.

00:21:22.960 So there's like the case of the people who went to make like the red pill community documentary and seemed pretty hostile to it at first.

00:21:29.360 And then they learned about it and became like faux red pill.

00:21:32.120 Like it was like a group of women too. 0.99

00:21:33.560 Like the woman who decided she would try to be a guy just to show how easy guys have it.

00:21:37.980 Oh yeah.

00:21:39.200 And have it much harder and ended up, you know, unaliving her.

00:21:42.760 Is Isakai herself.

00:21:44.520 Yes.

00:21:44.940 Yeah.

00:21:45.300 This, this is an interesting, and it's a phenomenon people have when they're talking to us.

00:21:50.540 It's like lefties have when they're talking to us in, in like the pronatalist stuff.

00:21:53.960 They come to us, they expect to think that we are absolute demons.

00:21:58.880 And then they're like, why are you being so reasonable?

00:22:01.120 Is this a trick?

00:22:02.640 Where is the trick?

00:22:04.480 We just didn't interview his mother Jones.

00:22:06.160 We'll see how that goes.

00:22:07.140 But they were very much like, yeah, it seems reasonable.

00:22:10.280 The positions you guys are pushing.

00:22:12.240 And I think that this is the challenge.

00:22:14.800 It's that the lack of empathy is sort of core to staying on the left.

00:22:19.300 And it's also core to like, even, even the old version of the left.

00:22:21.840 I remember I thought of righteous as being just completely illogical and animal-like.

00:22:27.900 Like savages.

00:22:28.700 They were like, literally like a different species.

00:22:31.040 I was like, I.

00:22:31.720 Yeah.

00:22:31.960 Like ending up on an island full of cannibals. 1.00

00:22:35.320 You'd be very scared.

00:22:37.140 Yeah.

00:22:37.320 Lefties will be like, I have empathy for everyone.

00:22:39.680 Horrible.

00:22:39.960 And you're like, well, what about the like working poor in America?

00:22:43.420 Like the, the right, you know, the, the factory workers, the coal miners, they're like, well.

00:22:48.980 There's so much distaste.

00:22:50.580 Everyone, you know, you know, you know what I mean by everyone.

00:22:55.020 I don't know.

00:22:55.640 I think it's a major blind spot.

00:22:58.160 It's a blind spot.

00:22:59.280 Like maybe part of it too, is that they're seen as not counting because they're seen as coming from a position of privilege and cumulative wealth.

00:23:10.300 Even if they're not, even if they're not wealthy, like even if they're the disenfranchised Appalachian poor described in J.D. Vance's hillbilly elegy, they're seen as still being. 0.66

00:23:22.740 No, I think they say this, but they.

00:23:25.700 Because they are not, they are not black because they are white. 0.97

00:23:29.740 They know this isn't true.

00:23:30.760 I think the lefties like internally.

00:23:32.500 I don't think so.

00:23:32.640 No, they know that there are poor, disenfranchised white people out there, but they do not see them as human.

00:23:39.840 When they think of the people who are opposing them, they break them into two classes.

00:23:44.000 One, a group of white, wealthy elites who keep them down.

00:23:47.880 And then the subhuman troglodytes who mine, work in the mines, who work on the farms, who, this other group, they understand this other group doesn't have power. 0.95

00:23:58.220 They're just beneath them. 0.89

00:24:00.220 Or they're, maybe it's that they are expected to have views that are so repugnant, lifestyles and views that are so repugnant to the educated elites, that they see them as subhuman, but not deserving subhuman.

00:24:15.820 Like, you grew up in America, you should have had the good sense to be progressive and educated and to live like me, and you don't, therefore, you had.

00:24:24.100 You shouldn't, no, it's like you should have had the good sense to be born into a rich family like me.

00:24:28.020 How did this not happen to you?

00:24:29.620 But like, the thing is, like, there are view, there are people in other countries who live lives of poverty and have cultures that ultimately are repugnant to, to progressive leftists. 0.87

00:24:41.100 And yet, the poor, morally repugnant white people in America are seen as irredeemable, I think, because they should have known better or something. 0.55

00:24:54.540 That they, they're us, they, they, how, how dare they have those views? 0.99

00:24:57.680 Like, those people who practice genital mutilation, well, I may not agree with that, but, you know, once they, once we give them our culture and our assistance, they will become enlightened and know better.

00:25:10.380 Oh, okay, so what you're arguing is they see them kind of like apostates.

00:25:14.480 Yeah, I think they see them like apostates.

00:25:16.580 If I'm modeling my old way of viewing things, I think that that's.

00:25:20.140 It's like, they should have enough money.

00:25:22.080 They had the, they had a chance to be a civilized good person and progressive, and they chose, they chose not to be.

00:25:30.100 Therefore, they are fallen.

00:25:31.660 We do not need to protect them.

00:25:33.200 They don't count.

00:25:34.020 And we view them as less than human because they had a chance.

00:25:37.700 They could have been baptized.

00:25:38.680 They could have been saved. 0.61

00:25:39.480 And we're okay with supporting, you know, the gays for Gaza stuff. 0.99

00:25:42.900 We're okay with supporting these people who throw gay people. 1.00

00:25:44.980 Because once we help them and save them, they will see the light and they will be just like us. 0.97

00:25:52.140 And we'll be able to erase their cultural practices. 0.98

00:25:53.760 Yeah, that's, that's, that's, but that's the plan.

00:25:56.020 That is 100% the plan.

00:25:58.540 What would happen to a gay couple in Gaza? 0.95

00:26:00.520 It would be executed according to Islamic law. 0.98

00:26:02.960 Islam doesn't endorse gayism. 0.98

00:26:04.840 Islam doesn't endorse homosexuality.

00:26:06.600 Just like Canada doesn't endorse a lot of things.

00:26:08.800 So would you like to see Sharia law in Canada replace Canadian law? 0.74

00:26:12.240 At some point it will.

00:26:13.740 You know, because we are, we are, we have families, we are making babies.

00:26:16.680 You're not.

00:26:17.140 And they don't believe that the plan isn't working.

00:26:20.160 Like fundamentally there is a disbelief that the plan may not be working.

00:26:23.860 No, the plan will work.

00:26:26.300 This is why you can take them like directly to like one of these individuals in the U.S. 1.00

00:26:30.260 And they'll be like, yeah, we plan to kill the gays. 1.00

00:26:32.940 And they're like, oh, we need to give you more assistance. 0.99

00:26:37.380 Because when, a lot of this is like the U.S. aid thing.

00:26:40.100 Like when we give you more assistance, you will see that our ways are better.

00:26:44.960 And I think this happened a lot in Europe too.

00:26:46.760 That like, don't worry.

00:26:48.000 Once they experience our European social services and see our enlightened European systems,

00:26:54.540 they will drop these, these savage views and they will be just like us.

00:26:59.480 They will assimilate by choice, but we will never obligate them to assimilate because that is not our culture. 0.99

00:27:05.600 And then I think.

00:27:07.100 But they're cultural nationalists.

00:27:10.280 Right.

00:27:10.840 For the urban monoculture.

00:27:12.020 Right.

00:27:12.280 But they do that through the provision of services.

00:27:16.240 The proselytization is by wealth distribution.

00:27:21.280 We do not expend our energy attempting to change your mind because that is wrong.

00:27:25.700 We accept all.

00:27:27.020 Rather, we will take someone else's money and spend it on you.

00:27:29.840 And then you will love us so much for doing so that you will be just like us.

00:27:33.880 Yeah.

00:27:34.520 And, and well, or your culture will naturally evolve in this direction when you gain access to our information or more information.

00:27:41.540 Yeah.

00:27:41.740 Your kids will go to our schools.

00:27:43.480 Your kids will become like us.

00:27:46.280 Well, and I think that this is also what we see in.

00:27:48.760 So I was reading some posts on ask liberals.

00:27:51.200 Right.

00:27:51.840 And it was somebody saying, Hey, so like here's the data showing that liberals have lower amounts of mental health than conservatives.

00:27:58.820 Here's the amount the polls showing, you know, liberals have, et cetera.

00:28:02.600 Right. 0.96

00:28:03.100 And anyone who looks at liberals can tell they have way more mental health problems than conservatives. 0.99

00:28:06.880 This is just like a really obvious thing. 1.00

00:28:08.420 And what people said was, Oh, this is actually just an artifact of conservatives being liars.

00:28:14.840 That's why liberals are more open and honest with themselves. 0.99

00:28:17.600 And that's why they have more mental health problems.

00:28:20.540 And I think that this is broadly what we see. 1.00

00:28:23.080 Like conservatives are all liars. 0.98

00:28:24.780 Conservatives aren't honest about themselves. 1.00

00:28:26.820 Even though like any rational person can look at the two communities and be like, you guys aren't mentally healthy.

00:28:32.600 Like you see that.

00:28:33.820 Like I always note that the natalist convention, one of the interesting things about it is everyone there seems to be happy to be alive and excited about the future.

00:28:41.300 Yeah.

00:28:41.480 And it's rare for me to be around a community like that.

00:28:44.380 Mm-hmm.

00:28:46.120 Yeah.

00:28:46.660 Even if they don't have, you know, everything in the world, they, they're happy with what they do have.

00:28:52.440 And that's key.

00:28:54.100 And so unusual, but delightful.

00:28:56.480 Well, Simone, any closing thoughts from you?

00:29:02.140 This has just been somewhat mind blowing for me because even though it's been a long time since I've had that progressive cult mind space, it's still, I can still go back to it.

00:29:18.140 And it's kind of shocking to realize that I wasn't this enlightened, empathetic person that I thought I was.

00:29:25.860 And I still sometimes have this feeling like, well, I'm the evil conservative now, haha, like I don't care about people.

00:29:35.800 And then I actually realized that the reason I switched over to this is I actually do.

00:29:41.400 I do care about people and I care about evidence-based solutions and outcomes.

00:29:45.320 And I can't, I can't do that and also still be on the left.

00:29:52.680 And there were the instances in my life in which I had to encounter that in environmental advocacy and then in policy and then in pronatalism, it just keeps coming back.

00:30:04.000 So it's, it's just crazy because I still am kind of brainwashed a little bit in the cult to believe, but of course, the, this makes me evil to want to, you know, I'm the, I'm the one who's not empathetic.

00:30:19.920 I'm the one who can't model other people.

00:30:21.680 I'm the tone deaf one.

00:30:23.980 And, and to realize just how not true that is, is it's not the satisfying thing I hoped it would be.

00:30:30.640 I'm now I'm just like, well, what do they have, Malcolm?

00:30:34.700 What do they have?

00:30:35.740 They don't have good empathy.

00:30:37.160 They can't model the other side.

00:30:38.480 Well, they don't have really great evidence-based solutions. 1.00

00:30:41.200 Their mental health sucks. 1.00

00:30:42.580 They just lost. 1.00

00:30:44.440 Come on.

00:30:45.160 I think this is why they can't, when everyone's like the left is lost right now, I think it's like nobody knows, like the leftists are all internally talking.

00:30:53.780 They know something is wrong.

00:30:54.720 They're trying to fix it.

00:30:55.560 And the reason why they're struggling so much is it requires seeing that they are the cultural imperialists, that they want everyone to follow their way of life, their cultural practices, whether it's the immigrants or the conservatives or anyone else.

00:31:09.260 And their entire party is built around enforcing that.

00:31:12.840 And the thing is, I feel as though if they actually owned that, it would go better because, for example, they would require assimilation from immigrant groups or only let in immigrants who were willing to assimilate, which would, which would go better. 0.92

00:31:34.140 You know, go better than the Hispanics coming here and then voting more than 50% for Trump, the male ones, at least, and the females, you know. 0.73

00:31:42.360 Well, yeah, but I mean, I feel like they're qualified to say that because, like Mike Solana has said, you know, a minimum requirement for coming here should be that you like America and you want to be an American.

00:31:56.040 The point here being is that these Hispanic immigrants came here and the left just assumed that they would be converted to the urban monoculture and they haven't been, which is a serious miscalculation.

00:32:09.460 And they have adjusted on that.

00:32:10.860 They've become incredibly anti-Hispanic. 0.82

00:32:12.720 They've become incredibly racist against Hispanic people. 0.78

00:32:15.180 You see them talking about it all the time. 0.97

00:32:17.380 They're like, oh, yeah, let's get rid of them all now because they didn't follow what I wanted, you know.

00:32:22.760 But anyway, hey, Simone, what are we doing for dinner tonight?

00:32:25.520 Curry again?

00:32:26.380 Curry night number two.

00:32:27.640 And I will not burn your naan tonight.

00:32:29.460 I apologize.

00:32:30.520 Would you put in a little bit of chili oil and a little bit of the chili flakes?

00:32:37.240 The red ones?

00:32:38.800 Yeah, the little red chili flakes.

00:32:40.940 Or if we have any chilies that we haven't used yet, put them in.

00:32:44.920 I don't know if you roasted some that we haven't used.

00:32:48.200 Roasted?

00:32:49.420 Oh, no, I haven't roasted.

00:32:51.080 Yeah, those, if they're still good, because we were out of town for a little bit, you think they're still good?

00:32:55.520 I would imagine so.

00:32:57.300 Okay, yeah, I can chop, I can just chop them up fresh and then simmer them.

00:33:01.620 Okay, then I will do that.

00:33:02.700 How about that instead of the chili oil and flakes?

00:33:04.580 Because those are pretty strong.

00:33:05.300 No, that plus chili oil.

00:33:07.840 You really want to hurt tonight, don't you?

00:33:09.780 Chili oil isn't spicy.

00:33:11.040 Okay.

00:33:13.260 I wouldn't know.

00:33:13.860 Or not particularly.

00:33:14.840 It's incredibly mild, actually.

00:33:16.320 It just sort of adds to the...

00:33:20.500 To the what, if not?

00:33:22.440 I don't know the...

00:33:23.820 Okay.

00:33:26.320 The thing.

00:33:27.960 That quelque chose, that je ne sais quoi, that possess.

00:33:33.680 I will make sure you have it.

00:33:36.940 Well, I'm going to go hang out with...

00:33:39.520 Are we going to do NPR soon?

00:33:41.880 We got the BBC.

00:33:42.740 We got Ireland.

00:33:43.640 We got a lot of news coming up in the near future.

00:33:46.380 So for those of you who still read the mainstream media, they're going to be freaking out about us for a while.

00:33:52.120 Which I'm excited about! 0.99

00:33:53.500 I love throwing shit at the fan because I'm in their house. 0.99

00:33:59.420 And I just watch it splatter on everything. 0.99

00:34:02.020 They're all covered in it.

00:34:03.540 It's hilarious.

00:34:05.860 I love you.

00:34:07.060 I love you.

00:34:07.800 You don't have to.

00:34:08.860 I mean, you're fine.

00:34:10.460 I don't have to, but I do.

00:34:11.780 I love you, but too, by the way.

00:34:12.920 You're an amazing mom and wife.

00:34:14.780 And I am extremely lucky for this life that I live.

00:34:19.280 Nana.

00:34:20.100 I feel the same way.

00:34:21.340 Nana.

00:34:22.580 So does Indy.

00:34:23.500 She's ready.

00:34:24.900 She's ready.

00:34:25.940 All right.

00:34:26.900 I will see you downstairs shortly.

00:34:29.400 Bye.

00:34:43.460 You bopped him with a soccer bopper. 0.87

00:34:47.580 Toasty, you got to get him back?

00:34:49.000 Now I need to go stronger.

00:34:53.000 Oh, yeah?

00:34:53.580 Oh, Toasty, you got to power up.

00:34:55.260 Power up.

00:34:57.320 Whoa.

00:34:59.220 You got to boost your power.

00:35:00.820 Bam, bam, bam.

00:35:02.120 I love you.

00:35:02.800 I love you.

Based Camp - March 24, 2025

Why the Left Can't Mentally Model the Right

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