Based Camp - March 28, 2024


Why The Left Has to Erase the Gay Male Identity


Episode Stats

Length

33 minutes

Words per Minute

170.63416

Word Count

5,646

Sentence Count

375

Misogynist Sentences

27

Hate Speech Sentences

55


Summary

In this episode, we re talking about the LGBTQ+ community and how they ve been marginalized by the progressive agenda. We re also talking about Malcolm X and his experience growing up as a gay boy growing up in the late 60s and early 70s.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The rainbow flag was not about like,
00:00:03.500 it wasn't like each color represented some sexuality.
00:00:06.860 It was rainbow because it was everyone under the rainbow.
00:00:11.600 Be comfortable with who you are.
00:00:13.100 Everyone is accepted.
00:00:14.940 Is it not fitting that that acceptance
00:00:17.440 had been systemically erased?
00:00:20.940 Yeah, actually, when you put it that way, it's pretty wild.
00:00:23.700 As they took over this identity
00:00:26.560 and began to marginalize the actual individuals
00:00:30.560 who fought to normalize all of it.
00:00:33.300 Here's this flag for how everyone matters.
00:00:35.780 And then they're like,
00:00:36.340 but some people do matter more than others.
00:00:38.740 Let's put some stripes on here for black and brown people.
00:00:41.640 Let's put some stripes on here.
00:00:43.100 Let's put a big section on here for the trans community.
00:00:45.720 Even for asexuals.
00:00:47.000 It's fucked up.
00:00:47.700 It is genuinely fucked up and disturbing
00:00:51.140 the way that the progressives
00:00:53.640 basically stabbed the gay rights movement
00:00:56.440 in the back and then carved up its corpse
00:00:59.900 and then wear it like some sort of macabre outfit.
00:01:04.420 They've done the same to the black community.
00:01:06.460 Fucking horrifying.
00:01:08.200 And it's the same that we've seen with the gay community.
00:01:11.120 They have taken their identity away from them
00:01:14.020 and said, this identity supports us.
00:01:17.480 And if you don't support us,
00:01:19.320 then you no longer have ownership
00:01:21.600 over your own identity.
00:01:24.500 Would you like to know more?
00:01:25.560 So Malcolm, what do you want to talk about today?
00:01:29.220 The gays.
00:01:30.400 Today we're talking about the gays.
00:01:32.720 And what happened to their culture,
00:01:35.520 which I think is really cruel and twisted.
00:01:38.620 And so a lot of people,
00:01:40.420 you know, they watch our podcast
00:01:42.020 and they may not realize how fully integrated
00:01:45.680 both you and I were with early LGBT culture.
00:01:49.680 When I say integrated,
00:01:51.060 you know, I lived in a boarding school
00:01:52.840 since I was 13.
00:01:54.140 Every year in high school,
00:01:55.720 except for one year,
00:01:56.960 my roommate was a gay guy.
00:01:59.040 He was my best friend.
00:02:00.580 So this means throughout high school,
00:02:02.720 the room I was sleeping in
00:02:04.440 and my best friend who I hung out with,
00:02:06.480 a good 90% of all of my social interactions
00:02:09.920 was a gay man.
00:02:11.240 And I was in the GSA
00:02:12.520 and I was really, really, really engaged
00:02:16.460 with gay culture.
00:02:17.360 And then in college, again,
00:02:18.860 my best friend and my academic father
00:02:21.500 was a gay man.
00:02:23.520 People don't know academic father.
00:02:24.980 It's sort of like your,
00:02:26.620 it's St. Andrews.
00:02:28.060 Mentor?
00:02:28.460 Student mentor.
00:02:29.520 Student mentor, right?
00:02:31.260 And for a good chunk
00:02:34.600 of my formative years in life,
00:02:36.480 the person who I spent the most time with,
00:02:39.240 talked the most to,
00:02:40.300 and engaged with was a gay man.
00:02:43.160 And so a lot of people are like,
00:02:45.200 Malcolm, you have a lot of gay mannerisms.
00:02:46.900 Why is that?
00:02:47.520 And it was like,
00:02:47.860 because I hung out with them all the time
00:02:49.960 and their friend group.
00:02:51.000 And like, that was my core friend group
00:02:54.200 growing up was gay men.
00:02:56.220 And a lot of men today,
00:02:57.860 now gay culture was very different
00:02:59.600 back when I was growing up.
00:03:00.840 They'll look at this
00:03:01.560 and they'll be like,
00:03:03.120 oh, why would you do that?
00:03:05.540 And I was like,
00:03:06.280 you want to get a lot of hot female tail?
00:03:09.760 Have all of your friends be hot gay men
00:03:12.680 because women hit on them.
00:03:14.720 They're not interested
00:03:15.740 and they pass them off fairly frequently.
00:03:18.900 I'm not saying this is why they were my friends.
00:03:20.380 I actually went to a high school reunion
00:03:22.720 and I was interested in meeting with everyone.
00:03:24.720 And I ended up only talking to this guy again
00:03:28.000 because after I started meeting all the other people,
00:03:30.460 I was like,
00:03:30.800 oh, this is why I only talk to you.
00:03:32.720 You're the only like sentient,
00:03:34.440 interesting person at the school in my year,
00:03:37.340 you know, but anyway.
00:03:39.500 Well, yeah.
00:03:39.780 And of course I grew up in the San Francisco Bay area.
00:03:42.440 So the only two parades I ever went to
00:03:44.160 were the pride parade
00:03:45.100 and the 4th of July parade in my small town,
00:03:47.600 but the San Francisco pride parade, of course.
00:03:49.400 And most of my friends had lesbian mothers.
00:03:55.000 So I just thought people married,
00:03:59.320 like gender had no influence over who you married,
00:04:02.200 that I was equally likely to marry a woman
00:04:05.180 as I was to marry a man.
00:04:06.540 It just didn't.
00:04:08.100 Yeah.
00:04:08.520 Well, and when, and growing up,
00:04:09.760 everyone thought you were gay
00:04:11.300 because you wanted to live with a woman.
00:04:14.360 They would always say,
00:04:15.440 Simone will love whatever man or woman you end up with.
00:04:18.900 And I wonder if they were kind of disappointed in you
00:04:20.800 because you weren't a woman, you know?
00:04:23.360 In you, yeah.
00:04:24.020 Well, yeah, right.
00:04:25.380 No, I think they kind of were
00:04:26.840 because at one point you told another girl in your class
00:04:29.440 that you wanted to go with a woman.
00:04:30.640 No, no, no, no.
00:04:31.080 This was like in the second grade or so.
00:04:34.820 And in public school,
00:04:36.140 I announced at one point
00:04:37.460 that I was going to marry my best friend who was a girl
00:04:40.480 and we were going to live in an RV and have a hundred cats.
00:04:44.780 And no one took away the problem
00:04:46.860 that I was apparently going to be
00:04:48.620 a very dangerous hoarder of cats as an adult
00:04:51.580 and be homeless, apparently.
00:04:53.700 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:04:54.360 Live hashtag van life.
00:04:56.020 They were more concerned about the fact
00:04:57.460 that I had apparently just come out of the closet
00:04:59.300 in the second grade.
00:05:01.960 Hello?
00:05:03.100 I am glad the trans movement didn't exist when you were a kid
00:05:05.880 because you would have been in a hot second.
00:05:08.560 Yeah, it's like, oh, we got it.
00:05:09.540 Well, because then at that point,
00:05:10.920 I didn't, I thought nothing of this.
00:05:12.500 I said it at some point during the day
00:05:14.680 and then I come home and my mom's like,
00:05:17.560 oh, you know, Simone, we need to talk about this
00:05:19.540 because apparently my teachers had called home
00:05:22.320 and there was this whole meeting about
00:05:24.460 that I had just come out of the closet.
00:05:26.760 I had no idea because I was in the second grade.
00:05:31.340 It just happened to be that my best friend's parents
00:05:34.320 were also lesbians
00:05:35.640 and that most of the people I knew
00:05:38.020 were like in some kind of alternative relation.
00:05:40.060 I mean, my parents were poly before they got married.
00:05:43.360 It just, anyway, so no, I never had lesbian tendency
00:05:48.240 as I just, I've always been asexual, but gay for you.
00:05:51.700 And I, it just-
00:05:53.740 What she means by that is she's never found
00:05:54.840 anyone else attractive.
00:05:55.980 Yeah, and then suddenly I met you
00:05:57.340 and I was so, so hot for you
00:06:00.820 that despite being an insane germ phobe-
00:06:03.340 I would have anyone else is gay for just me.
00:06:05.600 Like, how common that is to only find one person arousing.
00:06:10.420 I really, I do wonder that.
00:06:11.980 In all of our research on sexuality,
00:06:14.120 we haven't found good data on this.
00:06:16.940 But let's go back to the gay community.
00:06:18.280 Yeah.
00:06:18.600 To the gays.
00:06:19.920 To the gays.
00:06:20.780 Well, so this is important
00:06:21.940 because like my core network, as I said,
00:06:24.760 was GSA, the theater kids.
00:06:26.840 I was like an alt scene kid in the early days
00:06:29.520 was those two core.
00:06:30.580 Oh, and the, I don't know what to call it.
00:06:32.100 It was like this community of like thrift store
00:06:34.460 and knitting girls.
00:06:35.600 What?
00:06:35.920 We grew up in our time period,
00:06:37.720 maybe not where you were,
00:06:38.780 but on the East Coast, it was definitely a thing.
00:06:41.040 These are girls who wore everything from thrift stores
00:06:43.400 and then would knit as like a heart.
00:06:45.140 No, I mean, I had friends like that,
00:06:46.920 but they weren't primarily lesbian.
00:06:50.040 No, I'm not saying they were lesbian.
00:06:51.260 It was like a community
00:06:52.060 and the community had a lot of lesbians in it.
00:06:54.080 Yeah.
00:06:54.400 But anyway, or bi girls or whatever.
00:06:57.500 The early gay community
00:06:59.260 and the early LGBT community differentiated.
00:07:02.940 So we're going before our time.
00:07:04.320 I'm going back to the eighties here.
00:07:06.620 It differentiated from mainstream society
00:07:09.280 because they were discriminated.
00:07:14.280 And this happens to any group.
00:07:15.260 If you're discriminated, but not like killed, right?
00:07:17.760 In high numbers, it's not that they weren't killed.
00:07:19.660 Some people did get killed
00:07:21.040 for their sexuality at that time period.
00:07:23.400 You hide it from mainstream society
00:07:25.440 and then you socialize separately.
00:07:26.940 Well, that leads to a different culture forming
00:07:30.520 because you are isolated
00:07:31.980 from the mainstream cultural network.
00:07:34.260 You need to identify how you are different
00:07:36.220 from that cultural network.
00:07:37.820 And then status is to some extent
00:07:39.920 like extracted when you meet someone
00:07:42.820 you've never met,
00:07:43.740 but is in the wider cultural network
00:07:45.020 by how much you other yourself
00:07:47.080 from the perspective of mainstream society
00:07:49.140 in terms of that cultural network's values and norms.
00:07:52.480 This is where you got the gay accent.
00:07:54.580 This is where you got...
00:07:54.940 And then gays begin to adopt the cultures
00:07:58.420 that a lot of them were coming from
00:07:59.940 or where they would get a lot of early sex from.
00:08:02.560 So in gay men, this became biker culture,
00:08:05.340 which became very important to the gay male aesthetic.
00:08:09.200 And then to gay women, this became nuns.
00:08:12.340 Actually, a lot of people don't know this,
00:08:14.060 but after the Second Vatican Council,
00:08:16.360 when the nunneries were moved close to the cities,
00:08:18.660 gay men also disproportionately joined
00:08:21.240 the Catholic priesthood,
00:08:22.300 but so did gay women.
00:08:23.380 This is sort of the Catholic cultural solution
00:08:25.720 for same-gender relation.
00:08:26.940 I think it was 52% of Catholic priests
00:08:29.160 are same-sex attracted in one study done.
00:08:32.380 And so the ones who were more gay than Catholic,
00:08:37.360 let's put it that way,
00:08:38.600 they just happened to be born Catholic
00:08:40.000 and this is what they thought they were supposed to do
00:08:41.820 if they were same-sex attracted.
00:08:43.240 They went into these movements.
00:08:44.520 And then in nunneries,
00:08:46.000 these began to really influence lesbian culture
00:08:48.180 during this period,
00:08:49.100 which you still see in some lesbian aesthetics
00:08:51.880 and common lesbian fetishes.
00:08:55.100 And you see this within the gay movement as well.
00:08:57.600 Like, this is why you get something like Road Warrior,
00:09:01.420 which borrowed a lot from gay culture,
00:09:04.100 which borrowed the original Road Warrior,
00:09:06.180 which borrowed a lot from biker culture.
00:09:07.820 Mmm.
00:09:08.500 And you definitely see this
00:09:23.000 if you're watching the original Road Warrior.
00:09:24.820 This definitely came out of gay cultural networks.
00:09:28.680 And then you had some trans people,
00:09:30.360 but trans people were basically non-existent back then.
00:09:33.220 You had cross-dressers,
00:09:34.780 which are different from trans people.
00:09:36.860 The majority of cross-dressers are cisgendered straight males,
00:09:41.340 actually.
00:09:41.820 These are men who like to cross-dress recreationally.
00:09:45.460 And transgender people generally found themselves
00:09:47.700 in these networks.
00:09:48.360 And you had a few transgender people in the outliers,
00:09:50.440 but they were incredibly rare
00:09:53.000 if you're talking about the formation of early gay culture.
00:09:56.820 Gay women were the sort of next most rare group.
00:10:01.560 Just the proportion of women
00:10:03.440 who are same-sex attracted to only females,
00:10:05.460 when contrasted with the proportion of men
00:10:07.340 who are same-sex attracted to only males,
00:10:09.240 it's like 10 men for every woman.
00:10:11.640 This is just like a biological fact
00:10:13.660 if you look at the statistics.
00:10:15.160 It is much more common for women to be bisexual
00:10:18.260 or to be interested or aroused
00:10:20.960 by both male and female body shapes.
00:10:23.560 In a historic context,
00:10:24.940 where same-sex attracted is heavily discriminated against,
00:10:28.000 there just wasn't a reason to join these cultures
00:10:30.740 if you were a bisexual woman
00:10:32.360 because of the cost to you.
00:10:33.860 So a lot of these women just presented as straight,
00:10:36.860 where men are usually attracted
00:10:38.440 to only either men or either women.
00:10:41.500 And therefore, for them to get any sort of arousal pattern,
00:10:44.920 they would need to go as men,
00:10:46.960 which led to a lot more men being present
00:10:49.380 in these communities in the early days.
00:10:51.580 So in the early LGBT community,
00:10:54.540 I'd say that there were probably,
00:10:56.200 due to the rounding error of trans individuals
00:10:58.520 and bisexual women who appeared in these movements,
00:11:01.920 probably 10 gay men
00:11:05.360 for every one other person in the movement.
00:11:09.120 Meaning this is a very, very, very big
00:11:11.600 and significant proportion of the community.
00:11:15.580 This is a very big, significant portion of the community.
00:11:18.060 So when the rainbow flag was invented,
00:11:20.440 when people were dying,
00:11:22.140 when people were fighting-
00:11:23.420 Well, they called it the gay pride flag.
00:11:24.840 They didn't call it the LGBT flag.
00:11:26.740 They called it the gay-
00:11:27.500 It was a gay pride flag.
00:11:28.380 Yeah, it was a gay pride flag.
00:11:29.460 And it was the gay pride parade also.
00:11:31.880 Yeah, this was about gay men
00:11:34.260 and everyone else was sort of along for the ride
00:11:36.780 because they had the similarity-
00:11:38.440 They were a numerical minority.
00:11:40.540 Yeah, well, and they had the similarity.
00:11:42.160 The only thing they had in common,
00:11:43.340 like their sexualities,
00:11:44.280 I don't think transness is particularly related
00:11:46.020 to gayness or lesbians.
00:11:48.060 I think that they just had the similarity
00:11:51.400 that they were rejected from mainstream society
00:11:53.920 due to something that was abnormal
00:11:57.880 about their gender pattern.
00:11:59.840 In the same way that, you know,
00:12:01.280 if you look historically, right,
00:12:03.500 they would have called like trans people gay
00:12:05.820 and stuff like that, right?
00:12:06.900 Like to define your group by the people who hate you
00:12:10.460 seems really weird to me,
00:12:11.780 but this is just culturally,
00:12:13.360 they were all sort of in the same bucket
00:12:14.720 for this reason.
00:12:15.800 Well, Malcolm, think of it this way.
00:12:17.820 The pronatalist movement is comprised
00:12:19.520 of many very different groups,
00:12:21.460 but we're aligned in our interest
00:12:23.840 in having cultural freedom.
00:12:25.700 And you could argue perhaps
00:12:27.240 that's what brought these groups together
00:12:28.600 is they wanted to be aligned
00:12:30.040 in their sexual freedom.
00:12:32.400 Yeah, to do what they wanted to,
00:12:34.060 which is not where the movement has gone,
00:12:36.240 but we'll talk about that in a second.
00:12:38.380 So gay men fought and died predominantly
00:12:41.860 to get this movement accepted.
00:12:44.040 And it is twisted that now the LGBT flag,
00:12:50.560 whatever it's become,
00:12:51.700 which is over time erased gay men from it,
00:12:56.960 has, they vote 45%.
00:12:59.580 People may not know this.
00:13:00.400 In the last election cycle,
00:13:01.260 gay men voted 45% for Trump.
00:13:04.280 That this-
00:13:05.040 That blew my mind, by the way,
00:13:06.420 because-
00:13:06.800 Identity and flag that so many of them
00:13:09.740 fought and died for
00:13:11.360 is being used to represent
00:13:14.060 ultra-progressive culture
00:13:15.420 to a complete abandon
00:13:18.200 for the effect it's having
00:13:19.660 on these actual communities.
00:13:21.580 Imagine, imagine if you strongly
00:13:24.020 identified with something
00:13:25.240 like, you know, Catholicism
00:13:27.780 or whatever, right?
00:13:29.040 And there was a group of absolute,
00:13:31.700 like, progressive, extremist,
00:13:33.880 fascist, racist,
00:13:35.120 because most ultra-progressives
00:13:36.580 are fascist and racist.
00:13:37.860 Of course, they redefine racism.
00:13:39.780 They say,
00:13:39.980 it's not racism if you're targeting
00:13:41.440 white people.
00:13:42.740 It's not fascism if you're targeting
00:13:44.300 people who aren't progressive.
00:13:46.060 You know, this is genuinely
00:13:47.720 the way that-
00:13:48.900 Of course,
00:13:50.080 when you approach a Nazi
00:13:52.120 and you're like,
00:13:52.820 the things you're doing to Jews
00:13:54.160 are really dehumanizing.
00:13:55.820 Oh, don't worry.
00:13:56.340 They're not humans.
00:13:57.560 This is always what fascist,
00:13:59.360 racist groups do,
00:14:00.940 have taken over
00:14:02.180 their movement
00:14:03.980 and their identity
00:14:06.040 along with that movement, right?
00:14:07.620 Like, this larger gay identity
00:14:09.800 that they did so much
00:14:13.220 to normalize.
00:14:14.400 The progressives did nothing,
00:14:15.900 nothing to normalize this.
00:14:17.640 They left this group in the cold.
00:14:20.140 The first presidential candidate
00:14:22.320 who, when elected,
00:14:24.340 publicly supported
00:14:25.800 gay individuals
00:14:27.440 and gay marriage
00:14:28.400 was Trump.
00:14:31.080 Obama was against gay marriage
00:14:33.240 when he was first elected.
00:14:34.220 I want to be absolutely clear
00:14:37.100 about that.
00:14:38.160 The progressives did not
00:14:39.620 a fucking thing
00:14:40.900 for this community.
00:14:42.160 They have always
00:14:43.640 treated them
00:14:44.700 as an in-their-pocket voter
00:14:46.620 and it makes absolute sense
00:14:48.860 that the gay men
00:14:50.000 who actually had to suffer
00:14:51.620 for the rise of this community
00:14:52.880 are fucking livid
00:14:55.820 with where things have been taken.
00:14:58.800 And people who knew
00:15:00.280 these individuals
00:15:01.000 back in the day,
00:15:01.920 back when the community
00:15:02.700 was rioting,
00:15:03.760 would have just as much anger
00:15:05.680 about not just
00:15:07.700 taking over this identity,
00:15:09.480 but progressively erasing them
00:15:11.440 from their own flag?
00:15:13.900 What the...
00:15:15.620 It's worse than that.
00:15:18.120 GLAAD has now
00:15:19.660 one of the primary
00:15:20.840 gay rights organizations.
00:15:22.520 They have a book of, like,
00:15:23.780 approved and disapproved words
00:15:25.420 or language,
00:15:26.060 which is so Orwellian.
00:15:27.660 But anyway,
00:15:28.540 in their latest iteration,
00:15:29.920 the word homosexual
00:15:31.580 is now considered
00:15:33.180 an offensive term,
00:15:34.620 which is hilarious
00:15:35.600 because they use terms
00:15:36.680 like queer all the time,
00:15:38.100 which was originally
00:15:39.160 designed as primarily
00:15:41.660 a pejorative term,
00:15:43.080 whereas homosexual
00:15:43.940 was a descriptive term
00:15:45.400 for gay men,
00:15:46.300 but they have erased
00:15:47.560 the only word for gay men.
00:15:49.200 They can say,
00:15:49.620 oh, well, you can call them
00:15:50.280 gay now
00:15:50.840 or gay men now,
00:15:52.420 but they've literally erased
00:15:54.500 being able to say
00:15:56.040 that males are gay
00:15:57.240 exclusively
00:15:57.980 or describe them
00:15:58.920 as a specific demographic.
00:16:00.600 Yeah, it's interesting
00:16:01.960 because we have gay friends
00:16:03.460 who have lived long enough
00:16:06.260 to not have only grown up
00:16:08.160 with woke, you know,
00:16:09.640 who are older than us.
00:16:11.840 And some are conservative now,
00:16:13.460 yes, 100%,
00:16:14.300 and they see how society
00:16:15.800 has gone off the rails.
00:16:16.640 But then there are others
00:16:17.440 who are still staunchly progressive,
00:16:19.900 and I wonder
00:16:20.560 if it's just that they're not
00:16:22.360 really looking into things.
00:16:23.380 Part of me thinks that,
00:16:24.200 I think a lot of the people
00:16:25.420 who are progressive
00:16:27.240 and living in the Bay Area,
00:16:28.160 you and I were talking
00:16:28.840 about this earlier,
00:16:29.960 I don't think,
00:16:30.400 I think the issue
00:16:31.060 is that they just don't know
00:16:31.920 what's going on.
00:16:33.060 They don't realize.
00:16:34.420 No, no, Simone,
00:16:35.500 45% of gay men
00:16:36.640 voted for Trump, okay?
00:16:37.680 Yeah, but that's not enough.
00:16:38.600 They know, largely,
00:16:39.140 the cultural knows,
00:16:40.060 there's a few brainwashed people,
00:16:42.080 but gay men have always been
00:16:43.440 some of the forced
00:16:44.160 to question cultural norms.
00:16:45.860 Yeah.
00:16:46.260 That is why they produce art
00:16:47.740 at a higher rate,
00:16:48.560 and they just do,
00:16:49.560 like across societies.
00:16:50.600 Oh, but it's 45%
00:16:51.820 of gay men voted for Trump,
00:16:53.440 not 90%.
00:16:55.440 What's going on
00:16:56.160 with that other half?
00:16:57.780 That a lot aren't brainwashed?
00:16:59.820 That a lot aren't maybe
00:17:00.720 even falsely identifying
00:17:02.220 as gay men?
00:17:03.840 No, this is, you know,
00:17:05.400 some sort of status thing
00:17:06.480 was in, come on, Simone,
00:17:07.960 be realistic.
00:17:08.980 You know, there's a lot
00:17:10.080 of men who are like,
00:17:10.640 well, I'm gay
00:17:11.280 because I'm, like,
00:17:13.420 demisexual,
00:17:14.400 and that's a form of,
00:17:15.940 you know, genderqueer,
00:17:17.220 which is within the gay label.
00:17:19.100 You know, be realistic here.
00:17:20.400 But I also want to point out here
00:17:22.840 what they did to the flag
00:17:24.280 because this has always,
00:17:25.360 like, been so fucked up.
00:17:27.340 Which used to be called
00:17:28.540 just the gay pride flag.
00:17:30.460 First, yeah,
00:17:31.240 this was the gay pride flag.
00:17:32.600 And then the rainbow flag
00:17:34.180 was not about,
00:17:36.240 like, it wasn't like
00:17:36.880 each color represented
00:17:38.540 some sexuality.
00:17:40.080 It was rainbow
00:17:41.340 because it was everyone
00:17:43.120 under the rainbow.
00:17:44.320 All the colors.
00:17:44.740 It was about everyone.
00:17:47.040 The individual colors
00:17:48.620 not representing
00:17:49.460 anything specific
00:17:50.680 was about representing
00:17:52.560 everyone.
00:17:54.060 And yes, a few groups
00:17:55.160 later tried to identify,
00:17:56.800 oh, this color means this
00:17:57.940 and this color means this.
00:17:59.320 But historically,
00:18:00.240 when it was created,
00:18:01.740 no, that's not
00:18:02.700 what it was about.
00:18:03.560 It was about
00:18:04.420 total inclusivity.
00:18:06.620 To add some clarification here,
00:18:08.940 the colors,
00:18:10.160 while they do not
00:18:10.840 represent sexualities,
00:18:12.460 they do represent things.
00:18:14.740 Specifically,
00:18:15.680 pink meant sex,
00:18:16.900 red meant life,
00:18:17.800 orange meant healing,
00:18:18.860 yellow meant sunlight,
00:18:20.000 green meant nature,
00:18:21.360 turquoise meant magic slash art,
00:18:23.720 indigo meant serenity,
00:18:25.880 and violet meant spirit.
00:18:27.980 The pink stripe
00:18:29.060 was taken out later
00:18:30.780 because it was difficult
00:18:31.860 to source the fabric from it.
00:18:33.960 But yeah.
00:18:35.200 They definitely
00:18:36.240 were not representative.
00:18:37.820 It's not like one of these
00:18:38.680 was gay people
00:18:39.700 or something like that.
00:18:40.900 The entire point
00:18:42.080 of the flag
00:18:42.740 was inclusivity.
00:18:43.780 And that is what
00:18:45.040 progressives are erasing.
00:18:46.840 Yeah.
00:18:47.240 It was about
00:18:47.780 sexual,
00:18:49.280 you having the ability
00:18:51.040 to express
00:18:51.880 whatever sexual identity
00:18:52.900 you have.
00:18:53.760 And I mean,
00:18:54.560 gayness was the majority of it.
00:18:56.120 So obviously,
00:18:57.220 they called it
00:18:58.060 the gay part of it.
00:18:58.620 But the point is,
00:18:59.580 is it was
00:19:00.100 be comfortable
00:19:01.800 with who you are.
00:19:02.840 Yeah.
00:19:03.200 Everyone is accepted.
00:19:04.600 Is it not fitting
00:19:06.040 that that acceptance
00:19:07.300 had been
00:19:07.780 systemically erased?
00:19:10.140 That's,
00:19:11.240 yeah,
00:19:11.400 actually,
00:19:11.700 when you put it that way,
00:19:12.400 it's pretty wild.
00:19:13.560 As they took over
00:19:15.060 this identity
00:19:16.400 and began to marginalize
00:19:18.560 the actual individuals
00:19:20.300 who fought
00:19:21.600 to normalize all of it.
00:19:23.180 Well,
00:19:23.400 but more than that,
00:19:24.400 that they took away
00:19:25.440 that this is for everyone
00:19:26.760 and they made it into
00:19:28.600 this is for these
00:19:29.680 specific groups.
00:19:30.640 Some people matter
00:19:30.920 more than others.
00:19:31.780 It's so fucking Animal Farm.
00:19:33.400 Wow.
00:19:33.620 It's like somebody came up
00:19:34.680 and they're like,
00:19:35.840 here's this flag
00:19:36.720 for how everyone matters.
00:19:37.880 And then they're like,
00:19:38.740 but some people
00:19:39.660 do matter more than others.
00:19:41.040 Let's put some stripes
00:19:42.120 on here for black
00:19:42.940 and brown people.
00:19:44.040 Let's put some stripes
00:19:45.040 on here.
00:19:45.520 Let's put a big section
00:19:46.680 on here for the trans community.
00:19:48.140 Even for asexual.
00:19:49.460 And I mean,
00:19:49.920 I love it, right?
00:19:50.920 I mean,
00:19:51.540 I'm an asexual.
00:19:52.100 You're asexual at least.
00:19:53.660 But like,
00:19:54.300 I also,
00:19:55.680 who is asexual?
00:19:56.820 You know,
00:19:56.980 this is not a large portion
00:19:58.080 of the population.
00:19:59.020 Why is that there?
00:20:00.460 Why is that there?
00:20:01.380 And as an asexual person,
00:20:02.720 I would say that you are like,
00:20:04.020 why are we erasing
00:20:05.320 inclusivity,
00:20:07.340 a flag dedicated
00:20:08.240 to inclusivity
00:20:09.060 was a carve out.
00:20:11.580 Yeah.
00:20:12.160 It's fucked up.
00:20:12.900 It is genuinely fucked up
00:20:15.060 and disturbing
00:20:16.320 the way that the progressives
00:20:18.800 had basically stabbed
00:20:20.540 the gay rights movement
00:20:21.600 in the back
00:20:22.500 and then carved up
00:20:24.120 its corpse
00:20:25.060 and then wear it
00:20:26.560 like some sort of
00:20:27.620 macabre outfit.
00:20:29.640 Oh,
00:20:29.800 look at me.
00:20:30.540 I'm a minority
00:20:31.480 because I killed
00:20:32.980 and destroyed
00:20:33.740 a minority community.
00:20:34.880 They fought for all this.
00:20:36.280 They've done the same
00:20:36.940 to the black community.
00:20:38.400 Fucking horrifying.
00:20:40.120 When it makes the flag
00:20:41.360 also now so much
00:20:42.820 less inclusive
00:20:43.460 because it sort of
00:20:44.880 means that all these
00:20:45.820 other orientations
00:20:47.200 and kinks
00:20:47.840 can no longer
00:20:48.920 count under it
00:20:50.300 because they're not
00:20:51.260 listed anymore.
00:20:52.860 Man.
00:20:53.900 Yeah.
00:20:54.860 Hadn't thought about it
00:20:55.780 that way.
00:20:56.340 So also the same
00:20:57.220 with black men.
00:20:57.900 The people who
00:20:58.560 in a large part
00:20:59.420 create modern black culture,
00:21:00.980 I hate to say it,
00:21:01.720 have been erased.
00:21:03.660 Those men,
00:21:04.920 if you say,
00:21:05.460 oh, I vote for Trump,
00:21:06.100 remember Biden,
00:21:06.820 if you don't vote for me,
00:21:08.320 you ain't black.
00:21:09.480 The policing
00:21:10.280 of the black identity
00:21:12.240 card by the Democrats
00:21:13.780 is fucking disgusting.
00:21:16.180 And it's the same
00:21:16.780 that we've seen
00:21:17.340 with the gay community.
00:21:18.660 They have taken
00:21:20.060 their community,
00:21:21.160 their identity
00:21:22.200 away from them
00:21:23.020 and said,
00:21:23.920 this identity
00:21:25.000 supports us.
00:21:26.280 And if you don't
00:21:27.500 support us,
00:21:28.300 then you no longer
00:21:29.620 have ownership
00:21:30.600 over your own identity,
00:21:33.380 over your own struggles.
00:21:35.320 I mean,
00:21:35.600 imagine whether you're
00:21:36.420 a gay man
00:21:36.880 or a black man
00:21:37.500 growing up,
00:21:38.920 right,
00:21:40.500 undergoing all
00:21:41.220 of this discrimination
00:21:42.020 and now being told,
00:21:43.880 oh,
00:21:44.240 well,
00:21:44.560 none of that mattered
00:21:45.300 because you don't
00:21:45.860 really have ownership
00:21:46.620 over any of that.
00:21:47.820 The totalitarianness,
00:21:49.740 the imperialism,
00:21:51.520 the fascism
00:21:52.480 of the Democrat mind
00:21:53.920 is disgusting to me.
00:21:56.540 And as you can tell,
00:21:57.180 this people was a ton
00:21:58.020 of black friends,
00:21:58.860 a ton of gay friends.
00:21:59.720 Like,
00:21:59.940 this is actually
00:22:00.940 repugnant.
00:22:03.580 Repugnant
00:22:04.020 what's happened.
00:22:06.400 Yeah,
00:22:06.900 it's pretty wild.
00:22:09.320 I mean,
00:22:09.760 to a certain extent,
00:22:11.340 I kind of get
00:22:13.320 the feeling
00:22:14.200 that a lot of
00:22:15.940 gay communities
00:22:16.880 just don't,
00:22:19.660 they don't need it
00:22:20.820 because they're
00:22:21.600 quite fine on their own.
00:22:22.840 Thank you very much.
00:22:24.200 And
00:22:24.640 they don't need it.
00:22:26.120 Sorry,
00:22:26.320 it doesn't matter
00:22:26.660 what they need
00:22:27.320 or what they don't need.
00:22:28.120 Imagine somebody
00:22:28.840 took a part
00:22:29.500 of your identity,
00:22:30.300 something that was
00:22:30.840 core to you.
00:22:31.980 Well,
00:22:32.040 and then,
00:22:32.340 yeah,
00:22:32.440 I guess started
00:22:32.840 selling it to other people.
00:22:33.980 That's where it gets,
00:22:34.540 it gets pretty gross.
00:22:35.460 And they started using it
00:22:36.580 to represent
00:22:37.160 their own goodness.
00:22:38.600 They're like,
00:22:39.040 look at how great I am.
00:22:40.960 Okay,
00:22:41.160 like imagine this.
00:22:41.860 Yeah,
00:22:42.280 it's like using
00:22:42.860 your credit report
00:22:43.860 to apply for credit
00:22:45.140 or something,
00:22:45.860 using your reputation
00:22:47.520 to try to move
00:22:48.720 things forward
00:22:49.480 or like plagiarizing
00:22:51.640 your college essay
00:22:53.280 and submitting it.
00:22:54.260 No,
00:22:54.300 it's so much worse
00:22:55.000 than that.
00:22:55.300 It's like a group,
00:22:56.560 right,
00:22:56.920 that did something
00:22:57.600 super racist
00:22:58.560 or terrible,
00:22:59.480 i.e.,
00:23:00.120 like let's take a group
00:23:00.880 that like was known
00:23:01.760 for like brutalizing
00:23:02.980 Native American communities,
00:23:04.620 keeping them in camps,
00:23:05.600 everything like that.
00:23:06.620 And then
00:23:07.100 arguing to everyone
00:23:09.260 that they were
00:23:10.060 such a good person,
00:23:11.780 such good people
00:23:12.780 because of how many gays
00:23:13.960 they had converted to,
00:23:14.960 not gays,
00:23:15.600 how many Native Americans
00:23:16.700 they had helped find Jesus.
00:23:18.740 And that they're really
00:23:19.960 the number one champions
00:23:21.040 of the Native American community
00:23:22.480 because all of these
00:23:23.180 Native Americans
00:23:23.860 that helped find Jesus
00:23:24.700 and all of them
00:23:25.280 that hadn't found
00:23:26.760 or identified
00:23:27.460 with their culture
00:23:28.140 were evil.
00:23:29.100 And then they became
00:23:29.940 the major voice
00:23:31.120 of Native American
00:23:32.000 quote unquote rights
00:23:33.340 in society.
00:23:35.120 And then they began
00:23:36.320 to any Native American
00:23:37.300 that was like,
00:23:37.780 well,
00:23:38.020 we don't agree
00:23:39.060 with your whole Jesus thing.
00:23:40.800 They're like,
00:23:41.300 well,
00:23:41.700 I guess you're not really human
00:23:43.020 and you're definitely
00:23:44.140 not Native American.
00:23:45.660 Do you understand
00:23:46.940 how much that would
00:23:47.700 like mess up someone
00:23:49.520 to be like a young person
00:23:51.660 growing up
00:23:52.280 and seeing that,
00:23:53.020 to see that degree
00:23:54.220 of cultural imperialism
00:23:56.560 and bigotry?
00:23:58.480 And I think that this is also
00:23:59.820 a lot of these dumb,
00:24:01.800 pathetic conservative men
00:24:03.600 these days
00:24:04.200 who don't have
00:24:05.180 any knowledge of history
00:24:06.520 think that they need
00:24:07.840 to be like anti-gay
00:24:09.340 or anti-black
00:24:10.300 to be conservative.
00:24:11.140 And I see this today.
00:24:12.520 Really?
00:24:12.820 There's loud people online.
00:24:14.460 They're not actually
00:24:15.280 a part of the conservative movement.
00:24:16.240 And as we pointed out,
00:24:17.340 until Obama
00:24:18.300 was elected president,
00:24:19.180 your average white Democrat voter
00:24:21.120 was less likely to say
00:24:22.560 they would vote
00:24:23.100 a black person president
00:24:24.220 than your average white conservative.
00:24:25.400 Even until today,
00:24:26.440 the difference in racism
00:24:27.380 between those two parties
00:24:28.320 is like two to three percent.
00:24:29.800 There is no racist conservative base.
00:24:32.400 The amount of people
00:24:34.020 who try to front
00:24:35.160 racism or homophobia
00:24:36.880 as core to their
00:24:37.780 conservative identity
00:24:38.620 and just end up
00:24:39.460 looking foolish.
00:24:41.800 Because historically,
00:24:42.960 this is not part
00:24:43.660 of the conservative movement.
00:24:44.540 in modern times,
00:24:46.440 this is not a conservative base.
00:24:48.200 They are just
00:24:48.720 little 4chan kids
00:24:50.220 looking for acceptance.
00:24:51.440 And a lot of 4chan is good.
00:24:52.400 What I mean by this is
00:24:53.240 little people
00:24:54.080 who are not 4chan contributors,
00:24:56.640 but just watch other people
00:24:57.900 post there
00:24:58.580 and try to decide
00:24:59.900 how they would fit in
00:25:01.220 in this world framework
00:25:03.520 that doesn't actually exist.
00:25:05.480 And then go to other platforms
00:25:06.780 where they do feel safe
00:25:08.100 because they're too scared
00:25:09.200 to post on like
00:25:10.080 the real generator
00:25:11.680 of online culture.
00:25:12.720 and then post racist shit
00:25:15.140 on YouTube
00:25:16.520 or homophobic shit
00:25:17.680 on YouTube.
00:25:18.740 And they don't realize
00:25:19.960 that no,
00:25:20.720 the majority of conservatives
00:25:21.740 don't agree with them.
00:25:23.540 And I'm talking
00:25:24.580 real extremist conservatives
00:25:26.940 don't agree with them.
00:25:28.280 They think that they're pathetic
00:25:29.340 and that in truth,
00:25:32.100 our movement
00:25:32.700 is one of diversity.
00:25:33.880 It is,
00:25:34.640 and I think in the next
00:25:35.460 election cycle,
00:25:36.060 the majority of gay males.
00:25:37.920 It is the people
00:25:38.640 who actually...
00:25:39.720 The stats previously showed.
00:25:41.460 It's a little bit
00:25:43.700 less than half,
00:25:44.460 but you think it's basically
00:25:45.460 just gotten worse,
00:25:46.260 just like we've seen
00:25:47.160 with many Latin American groups
00:25:48.940 that are just seeing
00:25:49.860 themselves being
00:25:50.840 completely left behind
00:25:52.560 by the Democratic Party
00:25:54.180 in policies
00:25:54.900 and in behavior, right?
00:25:56.080 So you just think
00:25:56.520 it's just a bigger proportion
00:25:57.920 now,
00:25:58.280 probably the majority?
00:26:00.420 Yeah.
00:26:01.600 I do think
00:26:02.400 it'll be the majority.
00:26:03.140 And if it's not
00:26:03.460 this election cycle,
00:26:04.180 it'll be the next one.
00:26:05.800 Because these are the groups
00:26:07.260 who understand oppression.
00:26:08.400 these are the people
00:26:12.200 who fought
00:26:12.780 for all of these rights.
00:26:13.820 To have everything
00:26:15.300 they fought
00:26:16.220 and died for
00:26:17.700 co-opted
00:26:18.780 by a movement
00:26:19.740 that they,
00:26:21.020 one,
00:26:21.340 don't agree with
00:26:22.120 and is fundamentally
00:26:23.160 against their value set
00:26:24.900 is horrifying.
00:26:28.760 Sorry,
00:26:29.200 I might be getting
00:26:29.620 a little emotional in this,
00:26:30.840 but that's because
00:26:31.240 these are communities
00:26:31.900 that I care about
00:26:32.780 and I can't imagine
00:26:34.260 what it must feel like
00:26:35.020 to be a member
00:26:35.520 of one of these communities,
00:26:36.480 especially one who
00:26:37.100 sacrificed so much.
00:26:38.400 And then to have
00:26:40.020 everything that you
00:26:42.120 fought for
00:26:43.000 co-opted by people
00:26:44.400 who left you
00:26:46.100 to fight alone
00:26:47.500 until they could
00:26:48.660 use your identity
00:26:49.900 to elevate
00:26:50.800 their own social status
00:26:52.220 and move forward
00:26:53.560 this
00:26:53.880 mimetic virus
00:26:56.020 that is destroying
00:26:57.500 our society
00:26:58.360 and that needs
00:26:59.380 to be quarantined
00:27:00.580 and erased.
00:27:01.860 You know,
00:27:02.100 Sweet Baby Inc.,
00:27:02.760 I've been watching
00:27:03.340 more stuff about them
00:27:04.980 recently
00:27:05.400 and this whole
00:27:07.280 Gamergate 2 thing
00:27:08.220 and they're like,
00:27:08.680 oh,
00:27:08.940 you know,
00:27:09.180 we're just trying
00:27:09.840 to diversify games
00:27:11.840 and by diversify games,
00:27:13.120 they mean make them
00:27:13.820 ultra-progressive.
00:27:16.260 Right?
00:27:17.140 Which is really homogenizing.
00:27:18.940 It's a racist
00:27:19.860 and it doesn't matter
00:27:20.760 the color of your skin.
00:27:22.820 If you're,
00:27:23.260 you know,
00:27:24.900 I was watching
00:27:25.440 Clownfish TV recently
00:27:26.420 and they're talking
00:27:26.700 about one of the most
00:27:27.260 famous comic artists
00:27:28.040 these days,
00:27:28.520 any comic artist
00:27:29.120 who's really against
00:27:29.680 wokeness is a black guy.
00:27:30.720 They don't care.
00:27:31.820 They don't care
00:27:32.520 because you lose.
00:27:34.160 It's not actually
00:27:35.020 about race to them.
00:27:35.880 In fact,
00:27:36.880 it's almost the antithesis.
00:27:38.060 Like,
00:27:38.160 they are the epitome
00:27:39.660 of racism
00:27:40.960 in our society
00:27:41.760 and homophobia
00:27:42.440 in our society
00:27:43.320 given the way
00:27:43.880 that they have
00:27:44.280 brutalized these communities.
00:27:47.660 Depressing.
00:27:48.700 And their history
00:27:49.560 and identity.
00:27:50.360 But I'm wondering
00:27:50.740 if you have any
00:27:51.240 closing thoughts here,
00:27:52.460 Simone?
00:27:54.140 What I find
00:27:55.180 to be encouraging
00:27:55.800 is that I think
00:27:57.200 that these communities
00:27:58.060 are uniquely resilient.
00:27:59.660 there's a reason
00:28:00.740 why the progressive left
00:28:05.100 has really tried
00:28:06.800 to take them over
00:28:07.700 because they had created
00:28:09.280 something of immense power
00:28:11.100 and goodness.
00:28:12.860 And I think now
00:28:13.960 that they're kind of
00:28:16.680 back to a new zone
00:28:18.520 without necessarily
00:28:19.800 the same home
00:28:20.520 that they'd already created,
00:28:21.460 that their home
00:28:21.860 has been appropriated
00:28:22.620 and taken away from them
00:28:23.640 in terms of advocacy,
00:28:25.020 et cetera,
00:28:26.100 I still have every confidence
00:28:27.880 that they're going
00:28:28.480 to be just fine
00:28:29.460 because they're smart,
00:28:31.300 they're resourceful
00:28:31.980 and these movements
00:28:32.840 did get big
00:28:33.600 under their watch.
00:28:35.100 Now they're being destroyed
00:28:35.860 of course,
00:28:36.720 but they'll create
00:28:38.360 new subcultures,
00:28:39.580 new movements
00:28:40.120 and they're going
00:28:41.140 to be just fine
00:28:41.960 because honestly
00:28:42.760 these are incredibly
00:28:43.980 resilient groups of people.
00:28:45.700 They're incredibly smart
00:28:46.560 and resourceful
00:28:47.360 and they've only made it
00:28:49.140 this far
00:28:49.800 and they've only normalized
00:28:51.160 different from
00:28:52.920 historical,
00:28:53.920 societal,
00:28:55.120 sexual preferences
00:28:55.920 because they've been
00:28:57.860 that good.
00:28:59.080 So I don't think
00:29:00.540 it's hopeless.
00:29:01.180 I think it's incredibly
00:29:02.260 gross what has happened
00:29:04.060 and I see your disgust
00:29:05.380 and totally identify
00:29:06.400 with it,
00:29:06.960 but I'm also
00:29:07.860 always of the mindset
00:29:09.300 that the fit shall win
00:29:11.640 and they are the fit.
00:29:14.280 They shall win.
00:29:14.840 Well, I mean,
00:29:15.440 gay men still
00:29:16.520 are the primary generators
00:29:17.980 of new cultural ideas
00:29:19.100 in our society.
00:29:19.920 The rest of the LGBT movement
00:29:21.140 has never really generated,
00:29:22.600 you know,
00:29:23.560 durable new cultural ideas.
00:29:25.300 And so as these new people
00:29:28.980 of the now dissonant class,
00:29:31.580 which is considered
00:29:32.220 the intellectually dissonant class,
00:29:33.800 which is now conservative,
00:29:35.240 I think the generative gay men
00:29:37.160 will continue,
00:29:37.900 as you say,
00:29:38.740 to play this major role
00:29:40.300 in society.
00:29:41.480 The same with Black men,
00:29:43.180 right?
00:29:43.440 Like,
00:29:43.980 who's the number one conservative
00:29:45.460 after Trump?
00:29:46.400 Kanye, right?
00:29:47.300 Like,
00:29:47.840 in terms of public mind share.
00:29:50.100 Even somehow more horrible
00:29:51.640 than Trump.
00:29:52.200 I'm sure he's not considered
00:29:53.300 Black bi-progressives.
00:29:55.020 But,
00:29:55.400 the other thing I wanted to note
00:29:57.260 is that in many ways,
00:29:58.580 this stealing of their identity
00:30:00.100 and then transforming it,
00:30:01.660 the
00:30:01.840 reconstruction of the pride flag
00:30:05.020 is
00:30:05.760 a gift
00:30:06.320 to the
00:30:07.540 real
00:30:08.280 gay community,
00:30:09.540 the old gay community.
00:30:11.440 And that now,
00:30:12.060 and we were saying this,
00:30:12.960 you know,
00:30:13.220 we were at the
00:30:13.700 last log cabin Republicans
00:30:16.940 meeting at
00:30:17.680 Mar-a-Lago.
00:30:18.840 It's actually the first time
00:30:19.600 we saw Trump.
00:30:20.280 And this group,
00:30:22.680 the joke I kept saying is,
00:30:23.640 I love that we can now
00:30:24.540 fly the rainbow pride flag
00:30:25.960 and be seen as conservative
00:30:27.320 and dissident.
00:30:28.920 You mean the original
00:30:29.760 gay pride flag?
00:30:30.660 Yeah,
00:30:31.060 yeah,
00:30:31.320 before it was like
00:30:32.540 signaling that you're
00:30:33.320 a progressive.
00:30:34.420 Now,
00:30:34.980 you fly the original flag
00:30:36.600 and you're signaling
00:30:37.540 that you support
00:30:38.260 the real,
00:30:38.980 you know.
00:30:40.280 Yeah,
00:30:40.640 it's like practically
00:30:41.360 flying a Trump flag
00:30:42.520 or a let's go Brandon flag.
00:30:45.120 I love it.
00:30:45.940 Edgy,
00:30:46.460 edgy.
00:30:49.300 So weird.
00:30:50.280 Yeah,
00:30:50.760 but again,
00:30:52.080 they're going to be fine
00:30:53.140 because,
00:30:53.960 you know,
00:30:55.360 the best win
00:30:56.460 in the end.
00:30:58.020 And I think gay culture
00:30:59.340 is incredible
00:30:59.940 and resilient
00:31:01.180 and it always has been.
00:31:03.060 So,
00:31:04.000 you know,
00:31:04.420 at least we're starting
00:31:05.860 from a better
00:31:06.500 starting point
00:31:07.420 where,
00:31:08.000 you know,
00:31:09.220 people aren't being,
00:31:10.600 at least in our culture,
00:31:12.760 killed
00:31:13.560 or jailed
00:31:14.720 or hormonally sterilized
00:31:17.300 once they're found to be.
00:31:19.320 Whoa,
00:31:20.580 people in our culture
00:31:21.920 aren't being hormonally sterilized
00:31:23.820 once they're found to be.
00:31:26.380 There's more less lesbians
00:31:28.080 these days.
00:31:28.800 How many young gay men
00:31:30.100 do you think
00:31:30.520 have been hormonally sterilized
00:31:32.040 who were confused
00:31:33.000 about their gender identity?
00:31:34.900 Well,
00:31:35.340 okay.
00:31:36.120 Okay,
00:31:36.420 well,
00:31:36.560 they're not being killed
00:31:37.200 or jailed.
00:31:38.220 So,
00:31:38.340 yeah,
00:31:38.540 yeah,
00:31:39.240 it's going to be fine.
00:31:41.060 It's going to be fine.
00:31:41.800 It's going to be fine.
00:31:42.380 It's going to be fine.
00:31:43.080 I love you.
00:31:44.500 Oh,
00:31:44.940 by the way,
00:31:45.360 one of my favorite things
00:31:46.400 recently is there was this
00:31:47.600 thing on the trans people
00:31:49.360 who had been killed
00:31:50.080 this last year
00:31:50.700 for Trans Awareness Day
00:31:52.020 and it turned out
00:31:52.940 that the murder rate
00:31:54.420 was lower
00:31:55.220 than the general population.
00:31:56.940 Oh!
00:31:57.260 So just to run the numbers
00:31:59.920 on that,
00:32:00.440 here is a report
00:32:02.260 complaining that
00:32:03.060 more than 300 trans people
00:32:04.720 killed in 2023
00:32:05.940 and if you look
00:32:07.700 in the United States,
00:32:08.760 they had 31
00:32:09.840 were killed in the U.S.
00:32:10.880 So you can say
00:32:11.400 what percent of the U.S.
00:32:12.200 population is trans.
00:32:13.940 It's about 1% these days,
00:32:15.960 which means there's about
00:32:17.060 3 million trans people
00:32:18.280 in the United States
00:32:19.140 and so if you say,
00:32:20.460 okay,
00:32:20.680 31 people murdered
00:32:22.280 in a 3 million population,
00:32:23.840 that brings the murder rate
00:32:26.060 to 0.00001
00:32:30.340 in the trans community
00:32:31.440 versus the general population,
00:32:33.760 which would be 0.0063.
00:32:36.300 So it's literally
00:32:37.520 orders of magnitude
00:32:39.040 lower than the general population.
00:32:41.860 Almost none of them
00:32:42.920 were killed for being trans.
00:32:44.280 It was all like
00:32:45.160 they had robbed
00:32:45.960 from someone.
00:32:46.840 They've been mugged
00:32:47.220 or something?
00:32:48.280 No, no, no.
00:32:48.700 It was mostly shit
00:32:49.480 they had done to other people, yeah.
00:32:50.980 Oh, no.
00:32:52.200 Oh, no, no, no.
00:32:54.000 Oh, bad luck, bad luck.
00:32:55.300 They should never publish those stats.
00:32:56.640 Love you to death, Simone.
00:32:57.960 I love you, too.
00:33:00.780 Oh, God.
00:33:01.760 I didn't know that.
00:33:02.480 That's crazy.
00:33:04.860 Oh.