Based Camp - Why The Left Has to Erase the Gay Male Identity

00:00:00.000 The rainbow flag was not about like,

00:00:03.500 it wasn't like each color represented some sexuality.

00:00:06.860 It was rainbow because it was everyone under the rainbow.

00:00:11.600 Be comfortable with who you are.

00:00:13.100 Everyone is accepted.

00:00:14.940 Is it not fitting that that acceptance

00:00:17.440 had been systemically erased?

00:00:20.940 Yeah, actually, when you put it that way, it's pretty wild.

00:00:23.700 As they took over this identity

00:00:26.560 and began to marginalize the actual individuals

00:00:30.560 who fought to normalize all of it.

00:00:33.300 Here's this flag for how everyone matters.

00:00:35.780 And then they're like,

00:00:36.340 but some people do matter more than others.

00:00:38.740 Let's put some stripes on here for black and brown people. 1.00

00:00:41.640 Let's put some stripes on here.

00:00:43.100 Let's put a big section on here for the trans community.

00:00:45.720 Even for asexuals. 1.00

00:00:47.000 It's fucked up. 1.00

00:00:47.700 It is genuinely fucked up and disturbing 1.00

00:00:51.140 the way that the progressives 1.00

00:00:53.640 basically stabbed the gay rights movement 0.59

00:00:56.440 in the back and then carved up its corpse 0.96

00:00:59.900 and then wear it like some sort of macabre outfit. 0.81

00:01:04.420 They've done the same to the black community. 1.00

00:01:06.460 Fucking horrifying. 1.00

00:01:08.200 And it's the same that we've seen with the gay community. 1.00

00:01:11.120 They have taken their identity away from them

00:01:14.020 and said, this identity supports us.

00:01:17.480 And if you don't support us,

00:01:19.320 then you no longer have ownership

00:01:21.600 over your own identity.

00:01:24.500 Would you like to know more?

00:01:25.560 So Malcolm, what do you want to talk about today?

00:01:29.220 The gays. 0.98

00:01:30.400 Today we're talking about the gays. 1.00

00:01:32.720 And what happened to their culture, 0.98

00:01:35.520 which I think is really cruel and twisted.

00:01:38.620 And so a lot of people,

00:01:40.420 you know, they watch our podcast

00:01:42.020 and they may not realize how fully integrated

00:01:45.680 both you and I were with early LGBT culture.

00:01:49.680 When I say integrated,

00:01:51.060 you know, I lived in a boarding school

00:01:52.840 since I was 13.

00:01:54.140 Every year in high school,

00:01:55.720 except for one year, 0.94

00:01:56.960 my roommate was a gay guy.

00:01:59.040 He was my best friend.

00:02:00.580 So this means throughout high school,

00:02:02.720 the room I was sleeping in

00:02:04.440 and my best friend who I hung out with,

00:02:06.480 a good 90% of all of my social interactions

00:02:09.920 was a gay man.

00:02:11.240 And I was in the GSA

00:02:12.520 and I was really, really, really engaged

00:02:16.460 with gay culture.

00:02:17.360 And then in college, again,

00:02:18.860 my best friend and my academic father 0.86

00:02:21.500 was a gay man.

00:02:23.520 People don't know academic father.

00:02:24.980 It's sort of like your,

00:02:26.620 it's St. Andrews.

00:02:28.060 Mentor?

00:02:28.460 Student mentor.

00:02:29.520 Student mentor, right?

00:02:31.260 And for a good chunk

00:02:34.600 of my formative years in life,

00:02:36.480 the person who I spent the most time with,

00:02:39.240 talked the most to, 0.98

00:02:40.300 and engaged with was a gay man.

00:02:43.160 And so a lot of people are like, 0.91

00:02:45.200 Malcolm, you have a lot of gay mannerisms. 1.00

00:02:46.900 Why is that? 0.81

00:02:47.520 And it was like,

00:02:47.860 because I hung out with them all the time

00:02:49.960 and their friend group.

00:02:51.000 And like, that was my core friend group 0.63

00:02:54.200 growing up was gay men.

00:02:56.220 And a lot of men today,

00:02:57.860 now gay culture was very different 1.00

00:02:59.600 back when I was growing up.

00:03:00.840 They'll look at this

00:03:01.560 and they'll be like,

00:03:03.120 oh, why would you do that?

00:03:05.540 And I was like,

00:03:06.280 you want to get a lot of hot female tail? 1.00

00:03:09.760 Have all of your friends be hot gay men 1.00

00:03:12.680 because women hit on them. 1.00

00:03:14.720 They're not interested

00:03:15.740 and they pass them off fairly frequently.

00:03:18.900 I'm not saying this is why they were my friends.

00:03:20.380 I actually went to a high school reunion

00:03:22.720 and I was interested in meeting with everyone.

00:03:24.720 And I ended up only talking to this guy again

00:03:28.000 because after I started meeting all the other people,

00:03:30.460 I was like,

00:03:30.800 oh, this is why I only talk to you.

00:03:32.720 You're the only like sentient,

00:03:34.440 interesting person at the school in my year,

00:03:37.340 you know, but anyway.

00:03:39.500 Well, yeah.

00:03:39.780 And of course I grew up in the San Francisco Bay area.

00:03:42.440 So the only two parades I ever went to

00:03:44.160 were the pride parade

00:03:45.100 and the 4th of July parade in my small town,

00:03:47.600 but the San Francisco pride parade, of course.

00:03:49.400 And most of my friends had lesbian mothers. 0.75

00:03:55.000 So I just thought people married,

00:03:59.320 like gender had no influence over who you married,

00:04:02.200 that I was equally likely to marry a woman

00:04:05.180 as I was to marry a man.

00:04:06.540 It just didn't.

00:04:08.100 Yeah.

00:04:08.520 Well, and when, and growing up,

00:04:09.760 everyone thought you were gay

00:04:11.300 because you wanted to live with a woman.

00:04:14.360 They would always say,

00:04:15.440 Simone will love whatever man or woman you end up with. 1.00

00:04:18.900 And I wonder if they were kind of disappointed in you

00:04:20.800 because you weren't a woman, you know? 0.97

00:04:23.360 In you, yeah.

00:04:24.020 Well, yeah, right.

00:04:25.380 No, I think they kind of were

00:04:26.840 because at one point you told another girl in your class

00:04:29.440 that you wanted to go with a woman.

00:04:30.640 No, no, no, no.

00:04:31.080 This was like in the second grade or so.

00:04:34.820 And in public school,

00:04:36.140 I announced at one point

00:04:37.460 that I was going to marry my best friend who was a girl

00:04:40.480 and we were going to live in an RV and have a hundred cats.

00:04:44.780 And no one took away the problem

00:04:46.860 that I was apparently going to be

00:04:48.620 a very dangerous hoarder of cats as an adult

00:04:51.580 and be homeless, apparently.

00:04:53.700 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:04:54.360 Live hashtag van life.

00:04:56.020 They were more concerned about the fact

00:04:57.460 that I had apparently just come out of the closet

00:04:59.300 in the second grade.

00:05:01.960 Hello?

00:05:03.100 I am glad the trans movement didn't exist when you were a kid 1.00

00:05:05.880 because you would have been in a hot second. 0.93

00:05:08.560 Yeah, it's like, oh, we got it.

00:05:09.540 Well, because then at that point,

00:05:10.920 I didn't, I thought nothing of this.

00:05:12.500 I said it at some point during the day

00:05:14.680 and then I come home and my mom's like,

00:05:17.560 oh, you know, Simone, we need to talk about this

00:05:19.540 because apparently my teachers had called home

00:05:22.320 and there was this whole meeting about

00:05:24.460 that I had just come out of the closet.

00:05:26.760 I had no idea because I was in the second grade.

00:05:31.340 It just happened to be that my best friend's parents

00:05:34.320 were also lesbians 0.98

00:05:35.640 and that most of the people I knew

00:05:38.020 were like in some kind of alternative relation.

00:05:40.060 I mean, my parents were poly before they got married.

00:05:43.360 It just, anyway, so no, I never had lesbian tendency

00:05:48.240 as I just, I've always been asexual, but gay for you.

00:05:51.700 And I, it just-

00:05:53.740 What she means by that is she's never found

00:05:54.840 anyone else attractive.

00:05:55.980 Yeah, and then suddenly I met you

00:05:57.340 and I was so, so hot for you

00:06:00.820 that despite being an insane germ phobe- 0.99

00:06:03.340 I would have anyone else is gay for just me. 0.98

00:06:05.600 Like, how common that is to only find one person arousing.

00:06:10.420 I really, I do wonder that.

00:06:11.980 In all of our research on sexuality,

00:06:14.120 we haven't found good data on this.

00:06:16.940 But let's go back to the gay community. 1.00

00:06:18.280 Yeah. 0.95

00:06:18.600 To the gays. 1.00

00:06:19.920 To the gays. 1.00

00:06:20.780 Well, so this is important

00:06:21.940 because like my core network, as I said,

00:06:24.760 was GSA, the theater kids.

00:06:26.840 I was like an alt scene kid in the early days

00:06:29.520 was those two core.

00:06:30.580 Oh, and the, I don't know what to call it.

00:06:32.100 It was like this community of like thrift store

00:06:34.460 and knitting girls. 0.99

00:06:35.600 What?

00:06:35.920 We grew up in our time period,

00:06:37.720 maybe not where you were,

00:06:38.780 but on the East Coast, it was definitely a thing.

00:06:41.040 These are girls who wore everything from thrift stores 1.00

00:06:43.400 and then would knit as like a heart.

00:06:45.140 No, I mean, I had friends like that,

00:06:46.920 but they weren't primarily lesbian. 1.00

00:06:50.040 No, I'm not saying they were lesbian.

00:06:51.260 It was like a community

00:06:52.060 and the community had a lot of lesbians in it. 1.00

00:06:54.080 Yeah.

00:06:54.400 But anyway, or bi girls or whatever. 1.00

00:06:57.500 The early gay community

00:06:59.260 and the early LGBT community differentiated.

00:07:02.940 So we're going before our time.

00:07:04.320 I'm going back to the eighties here.

00:07:06.620 It differentiated from mainstream society

00:07:09.280 because they were discriminated.

00:07:14.280 And this happens to any group.

00:07:15.260 If you're discriminated, but not like killed, right?

00:07:17.760 In high numbers, it's not that they weren't killed.

00:07:19.660 Some people did get killed

00:07:21.040 for their sexuality at that time period.

00:07:23.400 You hide it from mainstream society

00:07:25.440 and then you socialize separately.

00:07:26.940 Well, that leads to a different culture forming

00:07:30.520 because you are isolated

00:07:31.980 from the mainstream cultural network.

00:07:34.260 You need to identify how you are different

00:07:36.220 from that cultural network.

00:07:37.820 And then status is to some extent

00:07:39.920 like extracted when you meet someone

00:07:42.820 you've never met,

00:07:43.740 but is in the wider cultural network

00:07:45.020 by how much you other yourself

00:07:47.080 from the perspective of mainstream society

00:07:49.140 in terms of that cultural network's values and norms. 0.93

00:07:52.480 This is where you got the gay accent. 1.00

00:07:54.580 This is where you got... 0.98

00:07:54.940 And then gays begin to adopt the cultures 0.99

00:07:58.420 that a lot of them were coming from 0.98

00:07:59.940 or where they would get a lot of early sex from. 0.92

00:08:02.560 So in gay men, this became biker culture, 0.99

00:08:05.340 which became very important to the gay male aesthetic.

00:08:09.200 And then to gay women, this became nuns. 0.93

00:08:12.340 Actually, a lot of people don't know this,

00:08:14.060 but after the Second Vatican Council,

00:08:16.360 when the nunneries were moved close to the cities,

00:08:18.660 gay men also disproportionately joined

00:08:21.240 the Catholic priesthood,

00:08:22.300 but so did gay women. 0.99

00:08:23.380 This is sort of the Catholic cultural solution 0.92

00:08:25.720 for same-gender relation.

00:08:26.940 I think it was 52% of Catholic priests

00:08:29.160 are same-sex attracted in one study done. 0.90

00:08:32.380 And so the ones who were more gay than Catholic, 0.90

00:08:37.360 let's put it that way, 0.97

00:08:38.600 they just happened to be born Catholic

00:08:40.000 and this is what they thought they were supposed to do

00:08:41.820 if they were same-sex attracted.

00:08:43.240 They went into these movements.

00:08:44.520 And then in nunneries,

00:08:46.000 these began to really influence lesbian culture 1.00

00:08:48.180 during this period,

00:08:49.100 which you still see in some lesbian aesthetics 1.00

00:08:51.880 and common lesbian fetishes. 1.00

00:08:55.100 And you see this within the gay movement as well. 0.91

00:08:57.600 Like, this is why you get something like Road Warrior,

00:09:01.420 which borrowed a lot from gay culture,

00:09:04.100 which borrowed the original Road Warrior,

00:09:06.180 which borrowed a lot from biker culture.

00:09:07.820 Mmm.

00:09:08.500 And you definitely see this

00:09:23.000 if you're watching the original Road Warrior.

00:09:24.820 This definitely came out of gay cultural networks.

00:09:28.680 And then you had some trans people,

00:09:30.360 but trans people were basically non-existent back then.

00:09:33.220 You had cross-dressers, 1.00

00:09:34.780 which are different from trans people.

00:09:36.860 The majority of cross-dressers are cisgendered straight males,

00:09:41.340 actually.

00:09:41.820 These are men who like to cross-dress recreationally.

00:09:45.460 And transgender people generally found themselves

00:09:47.700 in these networks.

00:09:48.360 And you had a few transgender people in the outliers,

00:09:50.440 but they were incredibly rare

00:09:53.000 if you're talking about the formation of early gay culture.

00:09:56.820 Gay women were the sort of next most rare group. 0.99

00:10:01.560 Just the proportion of women 0.96

00:10:03.440 who are same-sex attracted to only females,

00:10:05.460 when contrasted with the proportion of men

00:10:07.340 who are same-sex attracted to only males,

00:10:09.240 it's like 10 men for every woman. 0.93

00:10:11.640 This is just like a biological fact

00:10:13.660 if you look at the statistics.

00:10:15.160 It is much more common for women to be bisexual 0.81

00:10:18.260 or to be interested or aroused

00:10:20.960 by both male and female body shapes.

00:10:23.560 In a historic context,

00:10:24.940 where same-sex attracted is heavily discriminated against,

00:10:28.000 there just wasn't a reason to join these cultures

00:10:30.740 if you were a bisexual woman 0.61

00:10:32.360 because of the cost to you.

00:10:33.860 So a lot of these women just presented as straight, 1.00

00:10:36.860 where men are usually attracted 0.99

00:10:38.440 to only either men or either women.

00:10:41.500 And therefore, for them to get any sort of arousal pattern,

00:10:44.920 they would need to go as men, 0.86

00:10:46.960 which led to a lot more men being present

00:10:49.380 in these communities in the early days.

00:10:51.580 So in the early LGBT community,

00:10:54.540 I'd say that there were probably,

00:10:56.200 due to the rounding error of trans individuals 0.53

00:10:58.520 and bisexual women who appeared in these movements,

00:11:01.920 probably 10 gay men

00:11:05.360 for every one other person in the movement.

00:11:09.120 Meaning this is a very, very, very big

00:11:11.600 and significant proportion of the community.

00:11:15.580 This is a very big, significant portion of the community.

00:11:18.060 So when the rainbow flag was invented,

00:11:20.440 when people were dying,

00:11:22.140 when people were fighting-

00:11:23.420 Well, they called it the gay pride flag.

00:11:24.840 They didn't call it the LGBT flag. 0.61

00:11:26.740 They called it the gay- 0.75

00:11:27.500 It was a gay pride flag. 0.95

00:11:28.380 Yeah, it was a gay pride flag.

00:11:29.460 And it was the gay pride parade also. 0.98

00:11:31.880 Yeah, this was about gay men 0.91

00:11:34.260 and everyone else was sort of along for the ride

00:11:36.780 because they had the similarity-

00:11:38.440 They were a numerical minority.

00:11:40.540 Yeah, well, and they had the similarity.

00:11:42.160 The only thing they had in common,

00:11:43.340 like their sexualities,

00:11:44.280 I don't think transness is particularly related

00:11:46.020 to gayness or lesbians.

00:11:48.060 I think that they just had the similarity

00:11:51.400 that they were rejected from mainstream society

00:11:53.920 due to something that was abnormal

00:11:57.880 about their gender pattern.

00:11:59.840 In the same way that, you know,

00:12:01.280 if you look historically, right,

00:12:03.500 they would have called like trans people gay 1.00

00:12:05.820 and stuff like that, right? 0.93

00:12:06.900 Like to define your group by the people who hate you

00:12:10.460 seems really weird to me,

00:12:11.780 but this is just culturally,

00:12:13.360 they were all sort of in the same bucket

00:12:14.720 for this reason.

00:12:15.800 Well, Malcolm, think of it this way.

00:12:17.820 The pronatalist movement is comprised 0.66

00:12:19.520 of many very different groups,

00:12:21.460 but we're aligned in our interest

00:12:23.840 in having cultural freedom.

00:12:25.700 And you could argue perhaps

00:12:27.240 that's what brought these groups together

00:12:28.600 is they wanted to be aligned

00:12:30.040 in their sexual freedom.

00:12:32.400 Yeah, to do what they wanted to,

00:12:34.060 which is not where the movement has gone,

00:12:36.240 but we'll talk about that in a second. 0.92

00:12:38.380 So gay men fought and died predominantly 0.98

00:12:41.860 to get this movement accepted.

00:12:44.040 And it is twisted that now the LGBT flag,

00:12:50.560 whatever it's become, 0.87

00:12:51.700 which is over time erased gay men from it,

00:12:56.960 has, they vote 45%.

00:12:59.580 People may not know this.

00:13:00.400 In the last election cycle,

00:13:01.260 gay men voted 45% for Trump.

00:13:04.280 That this- 0.98

00:13:05.040 That blew my mind, by the way,

00:13:06.420 because-

00:13:06.800 Identity and flag that so many of them

00:13:09.740 fought and died for

00:13:11.360 is being used to represent

00:13:14.060 ultra-progressive culture

00:13:15.420 to a complete abandon

00:13:18.200 for the effect it's having

00:13:19.660 on these actual communities.

00:13:21.580 Imagine, imagine if you strongly

00:13:24.020 identified with something

00:13:25.240 like, you know, Catholicism

00:13:27.780 or whatever, right?

00:13:29.040 And there was a group of absolute,

00:13:31.700 like, progressive, extremist, 0.99

00:13:33.880 fascist, racist, 0.99

00:13:35.120 because most ultra-progressives 1.00

00:13:36.580 are fascist and racist. 1.00

00:13:37.860 Of course, they redefine racism. 0.98

00:13:39.780 They say,

00:13:39.980 it's not racism if you're targeting

00:13:41.440 white people.

00:13:42.740 It's not fascism if you're targeting 0.88

00:13:44.300 people who aren't progressive.

00:13:46.060 You know, this is genuinely

00:13:47.720 the way that-

00:13:48.900 Of course,

00:13:50.080 when you approach a Nazi 0.62

00:13:52.120 and you're like, 0.68

00:13:52.820 the things you're doing to Jews

00:13:54.160 are really dehumanizing.

00:13:55.820 Oh, don't worry.

00:13:56.340 They're not humans.

00:13:57.560 This is always what fascist, 0.99

00:13:59.360 racist groups do, 0.94

00:14:00.940 have taken over

00:14:02.180 their movement

00:14:03.980 and their identity

00:14:06.040 along with that movement, right?

00:14:07.620 Like, this larger gay identity 1.00

00:14:09.800 that they did so much

00:14:13.220 to normalize.

00:14:14.400 The progressives did nothing,

00:14:15.900 nothing to normalize this.

00:14:17.640 They left this group in the cold.

00:14:20.140 The first presidential candidate

00:14:22.320 who, when elected,

00:14:24.340 publicly supported

00:14:25.800 gay individuals

00:14:27.440 and gay marriage 0.99

00:14:28.400 was Trump.

00:14:31.080 Obama was against gay marriage

00:14:33.240 when he was first elected.

00:14:34.220 I want to be absolutely clear

00:14:37.100 about that.

00:14:38.160 The progressives did not 0.99

00:14:39.620 a fucking thing 0.99

00:14:40.900 for this community. 1.00

00:14:42.160 They have always

00:14:43.640 treated them

00:14:44.700 as an in-their-pocket voter

00:14:46.620 and it makes absolute sense 0.98

00:14:48.860 that the gay men 0.60

00:14:50.000 who actually had to suffer 0.95

00:14:51.620 for the rise of this community 1.00

00:14:52.880 are fucking livid 0.99

00:14:55.820 with where things have been taken. 0.99

00:14:58.800 And people who knew

00:15:00.280 these individuals

00:15:01.000 back in the day,

00:15:01.920 back when the community

00:15:02.700 was rioting,

00:15:03.760 would have just as much anger

00:15:05.680 about not just

00:15:07.700 taking over this identity,

00:15:09.480 but progressively erasing them

00:15:11.440 from their own flag?

00:15:13.900 What the...

00:15:15.620 It's worse than that.

00:15:18.120 GLAAD has now

00:15:19.660 one of the primary

00:15:20.840 gay rights organizations.

00:15:22.520 They have a book of, like,

00:15:23.780 approved and disapproved words

00:15:25.420 or language,

00:15:26.060 which is so Orwellian.

00:15:27.660 But anyway,

00:15:28.540 in their latest iteration,

00:15:29.920 the word homosexual

00:15:31.580 is now considered

00:15:33.180 an offensive term,

00:15:34.620 which is hilarious

00:15:35.600 because they use terms

00:15:36.680 like queer all the time, 1.00

00:15:38.100 which was originally

00:15:39.160 designed as primarily

00:15:41.660 a pejorative term,

00:15:43.080 whereas homosexual 0.83

00:15:43.940 was a descriptive term

00:15:45.400 for gay men,

00:15:46.300 but they have erased 0.71

00:15:47.560 the only word for gay men.

00:15:49.200 They can say, 0.97

00:15:49.620 oh, well, you can call them 0.95

00:15:50.280 gay now 1.00

00:15:50.840 or gay men now, 0.99

00:15:52.420 but they've literally erased

00:15:54.500 being able to say

00:15:56.040 that males are gay 0.94

00:15:57.240 exclusively

00:15:57.980 or describe them

00:15:58.920 as a specific demographic.

00:16:00.600 Yeah, it's interesting

00:16:01.960 because we have gay friends

00:16:03.460 who have lived long enough

00:16:06.260 to not have only grown up

00:16:08.160 with woke, you know,

00:16:09.640 who are older than us.

00:16:11.840 And some are conservative now,

00:16:13.460 yes, 100%,

00:16:14.300 and they see how society

00:16:15.800 has gone off the rails.

00:16:16.640 But then there are others

00:16:17.440 who are still staunchly progressive,

00:16:19.900 and I wonder

00:16:20.560 if it's just that they're not

00:16:22.360 really looking into things.

00:16:23.380 Part of me thinks that,

00:16:24.200 I think a lot of the people

00:16:25.420 who are progressive

00:16:27.240 and living in the Bay Area,

00:16:28.160 you and I were talking

00:16:28.840 about this earlier,

00:16:29.960 I don't think,

00:16:30.400 I think the issue

00:16:31.060 is that they just don't know

00:16:31.920 what's going on.

00:16:33.060 They don't realize.

00:16:34.420 No, no, Simone,

00:16:35.500 45% of gay men

00:16:36.640 voted for Trump, okay?

00:16:37.680 Yeah, but that's not enough.

00:16:38.600 They know, largely,

00:16:39.140 the cultural knows,

00:16:40.060 there's a few brainwashed people, 0.97

00:16:42.080 but gay men have always been 0.99

00:16:43.440 some of the forced

00:16:44.160 to question cultural norms.

00:16:45.860 Yeah.

00:16:46.260 That is why they produce art

00:16:47.740 at a higher rate,

00:16:48.560 and they just do,

00:16:49.560 like across societies.

00:16:50.600 Oh, but it's 45%

00:16:51.820 of gay men voted for Trump,

00:16:53.440 not 90%.

00:16:55.440 What's going on

00:16:56.160 with that other half?

00:16:57.780 That a lot aren't brainwashed?

00:16:59.820 That a lot aren't maybe

00:17:00.720 even falsely identifying

00:17:02.220 as gay men?

00:17:03.840 No, this is, you know,

00:17:05.400 some sort of status thing

00:17:06.480 was in, come on, Simone, 0.88

00:17:07.960 be realistic.

00:17:08.980 You know, there's a lot

00:17:10.080 of men who are like,

00:17:10.640 well, I'm gay

00:17:11.280 because I'm, like,

00:17:13.420 demisexual,

00:17:14.400 and that's a form of,

00:17:15.940 you know, genderqueer,

00:17:17.220 which is within the gay label.

00:17:19.100 You know, be realistic here.

00:17:20.400 But I also want to point out here

00:17:22.840 what they did to the flag

00:17:24.280 because this has always, 1.00

00:17:25.360 like, been so fucked up. 0.99

00:17:27.340 Which used to be called 1.00

00:17:28.540 just the gay pride flag.

00:17:30.460 First, yeah,

00:17:31.240 this was the gay pride flag.

00:17:32.600 And then the rainbow flag

00:17:34.180 was not about,

00:17:36.240 like, it wasn't like

00:17:36.880 each color represented

00:17:38.540 some sexuality.

00:17:40.080 It was rainbow

00:17:41.340 because it was everyone

00:17:43.120 under the rainbow.

00:17:44.320 All the colors.

00:17:44.740 It was about everyone.

00:17:47.040 The individual colors

00:17:48.620 not representing

00:17:49.460 anything specific

00:17:50.680 was about representing

00:17:52.560 everyone.

00:17:54.060 And yes, a few groups

00:17:55.160 later tried to identify,

00:17:56.800 oh, this color means this

00:17:57.940 and this color means this.

00:17:59.320 But historically,

00:18:00.240 when it was created,

00:18:01.740 no, that's not

00:18:02.700 what it was about.

00:18:03.560 It was about

00:18:04.420 total inclusivity.

00:18:06.620 To add some clarification here,

00:18:08.940 the colors,

00:18:10.160 while they do not

00:18:10.840 represent sexualities,

00:18:12.460 they do represent things.

00:18:14.740 Specifically,

00:18:15.680 pink meant sex, 0.99

00:18:16.900 red meant life,

00:18:17.800 orange meant healing,

00:18:18.860 yellow meant sunlight,

00:18:20.000 green meant nature,

00:18:21.360 turquoise meant magic slash art,

00:18:23.720 indigo meant serenity,

00:18:25.880 and violet meant spirit.

00:18:27.980 The pink stripe

00:18:29.060 was taken out later

00:18:30.780 because it was difficult

00:18:31.860 to source the fabric from it.

00:18:33.960 But yeah.

00:18:35.200 They definitely

00:18:36.240 were not representative.

00:18:37.820 It's not like one of these 0.87

00:18:38.680 was gay people 0.94

00:18:39.700 or something like that.

00:18:40.900 The entire point

00:18:42.080 of the flag

00:18:42.740 was inclusivity.

00:18:43.780 And that is what

00:18:45.040 progressives are erasing.

00:18:46.840 Yeah.

00:18:47.240 It was about

00:18:47.780 sexual,

00:18:49.280 you having the ability

00:18:51.040 to express

00:18:51.880 whatever sexual identity

00:18:52.900 you have.

00:18:53.760 And I mean,

00:18:54.560 gayness was the majority of it. 1.00

00:18:56.120 So obviously,

00:18:57.220 they called it 0.82

00:18:58.060 the gay part of it. 0.69

00:18:58.620 But the point is, 0.74

00:18:59.580 is it was

00:19:00.100 be comfortable

00:19:01.800 with who you are.

00:19:02.840 Yeah.

00:19:03.200 Everyone is accepted.

00:19:04.600 Is it not fitting

00:19:06.040 that that acceptance

00:19:07.300 had been

00:19:07.780 systemically erased?

00:19:10.140 That's,

00:19:11.240 yeah,

00:19:11.400 actually,

00:19:11.700 when you put it that way,

00:19:12.400 it's pretty wild.

00:19:13.560 As they took over

00:19:15.060 this identity

00:19:16.400 and began to marginalize

00:19:18.560 the actual individuals

00:19:20.300 who fought

00:19:21.600 to normalize all of it.

00:19:23.180 Well,

00:19:23.400 but more than that,

00:19:24.400 that they took away

00:19:25.440 that this is for everyone

00:19:26.760 and they made it into

00:19:28.600 this is for these

00:19:29.680 specific groups.

00:19:30.640 Some people matter

00:19:30.920 more than others. 0.99

00:19:31.780 It's so fucking Animal Farm. 0.99

00:19:33.400 Wow. 1.00

00:19:33.620 It's like somebody came up

00:19:34.680 and they're like,

00:19:35.840 here's this flag

00:19:36.720 for how everyone matters.

00:19:37.880 And then they're like,

00:19:38.740 but some people

00:19:39.660 do matter more than others.

00:19:41.040 Let's put some stripes 0.94

00:19:42.120 on here for black 0.97

00:19:42.940 and brown people. 0.96

00:19:44.040 Let's put some stripes 0.54

00:19:45.040 on here.

00:19:45.520 Let's put a big section

00:19:46.680 on here for the trans community.

00:19:48.140 Even for asexual.

00:19:49.460 And I mean,

00:19:49.920 I love it, right?

00:19:50.920 I mean,

00:19:51.540 I'm an asexual.

00:19:52.100 You're asexual at least. 0.91

00:19:53.660 But like,

00:19:54.300 I also,

00:19:55.680 who is asexual?

00:19:56.820 You know,

00:19:56.980 this is not a large portion

00:19:58.080 of the population.

00:19:59.020 Why is that there?

00:20:00.460 Why is that there?

00:20:01.380 And as an asexual person,

00:20:02.720 I would say that you are like,

00:20:04.020 why are we erasing

00:20:05.320 inclusivity,

00:20:07.340 a flag dedicated

00:20:08.240 to inclusivity

00:20:09.060 was a carve out.

00:20:11.580 Yeah. 1.00

00:20:12.160 It's fucked up. 1.00

00:20:12.900 It is genuinely fucked up 1.00

00:20:15.060 and disturbing 0.99

00:20:16.320 the way that the progressives

00:20:18.800 had basically stabbed

00:20:20.540 the gay rights movement

00:20:21.600 in the back

00:20:22.500 and then carved up

00:20:24.120 its corpse

00:20:25.060 and then wear it

00:20:26.560 like some sort of

00:20:27.620 macabre outfit.

00:20:29.640 Oh,

00:20:29.800 look at me.

00:20:30.540 I'm a minority 0.96

00:20:31.480 because I killed 0.96

00:20:32.980 and destroyed 0.99

00:20:33.740 a minority community.

00:20:34.880 They fought for all this.

00:20:36.280 They've done the same

00:20:36.940 to the black community. 1.00

00:20:38.400 Fucking horrifying. 1.00

00:20:40.120 When it makes the flag 0.99

00:20:41.360 also now so much

00:20:42.820 less inclusive

00:20:43.460 because it sort of

00:20:44.880 means that all these

00:20:45.820 other orientations

00:20:47.200 and kinks 0.59

00:20:47.840 can no longer

00:20:48.920 count under it

00:20:50.300 because they're not

00:20:51.260 listed anymore.

00:20:52.860 Man.

00:20:53.900 Yeah.

00:20:54.860 Hadn't thought about it

00:20:55.780 that way.

00:20:56.340 So also the same 0.79

00:20:57.220 with black men. 0.94

00:20:57.900 The people who

00:20:58.560 in a large part

00:20:59.420 create modern black culture,

00:21:00.980 I hate to say it, 0.89

00:21:01.720 have been erased.

00:21:03.660 Those men,

00:21:04.920 if you say,

00:21:05.460 oh, I vote for Trump,

00:21:06.100 remember Biden,

00:21:06.820 if you don't vote for me, 0.95

00:21:08.320 you ain't black. 0.96

00:21:09.480 The policing 0.97

00:21:10.280 of the black identity

00:21:12.240 card by the Democrats 1.00

00:21:13.780 is fucking disgusting. 1.00

00:21:16.180 And it's the same 1.00

00:21:16.780 that we've seen

00:21:17.340 with the gay community.

00:21:18.660 They have taken 0.63

00:21:20.060 their community,

00:21:21.160 their identity

00:21:22.200 away from them

00:21:23.020 and said,

00:21:23.920 this identity

00:21:25.000 supports us.

00:21:26.280 And if you don't

00:21:27.500 support us,

00:21:28.300 then you no longer

00:21:29.620 have ownership

00:21:30.600 over your own identity,

00:21:33.380 over your own struggles.

00:21:35.320 I mean,

00:21:35.600 imagine whether you're 0.80

00:21:36.420 a gay man 0.98

00:21:36.880 or a black man 0.72

00:21:37.500 growing up,

00:21:38.920 right,

00:21:40.500 undergoing all

00:21:41.220 of this discrimination

00:21:42.020 and now being told,

00:21:43.880 oh,

00:21:44.240 well,

00:21:44.560 none of that mattered

00:21:45.300 because you don't

00:21:45.860 really have ownership

00:21:46.620 over any of that.

00:21:47.820 The totalitarianness,

00:21:49.740 the imperialism,

00:21:51.520 the fascism

00:21:52.480 of the Democrat mind 1.00

00:21:53.920 is disgusting to me. 0.99

00:21:56.540 And as you can tell, 0.97

00:21:57.180 this people was a ton

00:21:58.020 of black friends, 0.84

00:21:58.860 a ton of gay friends.

00:21:59.720 Like,

00:21:59.940 this is actually

00:22:00.940 repugnant. 0.91

00:22:03.580 Repugnant 0.97

00:22:04.020 what's happened.

00:22:06.400 Yeah,

00:22:06.900 it's pretty wild.

00:22:09.320 I mean,

00:22:09.760 to a certain extent,

00:22:11.340 I kind of get

00:22:13.320 the feeling

00:22:14.200 that a lot of

00:22:15.940 gay communities

00:22:16.880 just don't, 0.95

00:22:19.660 they don't need it

00:22:20.820 because they're

00:22:21.600 quite fine on their own.

00:22:22.840 Thank you very much.

00:22:24.200 And

00:22:24.640 they don't need it.

00:22:26.120 Sorry,

00:22:26.320 it doesn't matter

00:22:26.660 what they need

00:22:27.320 or what they don't need.

00:22:28.120 Imagine somebody

00:22:28.840 took a part

00:22:29.500 of your identity,

00:22:30.300 something that was

00:22:30.840 core to you.

00:22:31.980 Well,

00:22:32.040 and then,

00:22:32.340 yeah,

00:22:32.440 I guess started

00:22:32.840 selling it to other people.

00:22:33.980 That's where it gets,

00:22:34.540 it gets pretty gross.

00:22:35.460 And they started using it

00:22:36.580 to represent

00:22:37.160 their own goodness.

00:22:38.600 They're like,

00:22:39.040 look at how great I am.

00:22:40.960 Okay,

00:22:41.160 like imagine this.

00:22:41.860 Yeah,

00:22:42.280 it's like using

00:22:42.860 your credit report

00:22:43.860 to apply for credit

00:22:45.140 or something,

00:22:45.860 using your reputation

00:22:47.520 to try to move

00:22:48.720 things forward

00:22:49.480 or like plagiarizing

00:22:51.640 your college essay

00:22:53.280 and submitting it.

00:22:54.260 No,

00:22:54.300 it's so much worse

00:22:55.000 than that.

00:22:55.300 It's like a group,

00:22:56.560 right,

00:22:56.920 that did something

00:22:57.600 super racist

00:22:58.560 or terrible,

00:22:59.480 i.e.,

00:23:00.120 like let's take a group

00:23:00.880 that like was known

00:23:01.760 for like brutalizing

00:23:02.980 Native American communities,

00:23:04.620 keeping them in camps,

00:23:05.600 everything like that.

00:23:06.620 And then

00:23:07.100 arguing to everyone

00:23:09.260 that they were

00:23:10.060 such a good person,

00:23:11.780 such good people 0.79

00:23:12.780 because of how many gays 1.00

00:23:13.960 they had converted to,

00:23:14.960 not gays, 0.51

00:23:15.600 how many Native Americans

00:23:16.700 they had helped find Jesus.

00:23:18.740 And that they're really

00:23:19.960 the number one champions

00:23:21.040 of the Native American community

00:23:22.480 because all of these

00:23:23.180 Native Americans

00:23:23.860 that helped find Jesus

00:23:24.700 and all of them

00:23:25.280 that hadn't found

00:23:26.760 or identified

00:23:27.460 with their culture

00:23:28.140 were evil. 0.58

00:23:29.100 And then they became

00:23:29.940 the major voice

00:23:31.120 of Native American

00:23:32.000 quote unquote rights

00:23:33.340 in society.

00:23:35.120 And then they began

00:23:36.320 to any Native American

00:23:37.300 that was like,

00:23:37.780 well,

00:23:38.020 we don't agree

00:23:39.060 with your whole Jesus thing.

00:23:40.800 They're like,

00:23:41.300 well,

00:23:41.700 I guess you're not really human

00:23:43.020 and you're definitely

00:23:44.140 not Native American.

00:23:45.660 Do you understand

00:23:46.940 how much that would

00:23:47.700 like mess up someone

00:23:49.520 to be like a young person

00:23:51.660 growing up

00:23:52.280 and seeing that,

00:23:53.020 to see that degree

00:23:54.220 of cultural imperialism

00:23:56.560 and bigotry?

00:23:58.480 And I think that this is also 1.00

00:23:59.820 a lot of these dumb, 1.00

00:24:01.800 pathetic conservative men 1.00

00:24:03.600 these days 1.00

00:24:04.200 who don't have

00:24:05.180 any knowledge of history

00:24:06.520 think that they need

00:24:07.840 to be like anti-gay 0.92

00:24:09.340 or anti-black 0.95

00:24:10.300 to be conservative. 0.84

00:24:11.140 And I see this today.

00:24:12.520 Really?

00:24:12.820 There's loud people online.

00:24:14.460 They're not actually

00:24:15.280 a part of the conservative movement.

00:24:16.240 And as we pointed out,

00:24:17.340 until Obama

00:24:18.300 was elected president,

00:24:19.180 your average white Democrat voter

00:24:21.120 was less likely to say

00:24:22.560 they would vote

00:24:23.100 a black person president 0.98

00:24:24.220 than your average white conservative. 0.61

00:24:25.400 Even until today,

00:24:26.440 the difference in racism

00:24:27.380 between those two parties

00:24:28.320 is like two to three percent.

00:24:29.800 There is no racist conservative base.

00:24:32.400 The amount of people

00:24:34.020 who try to front

00:24:35.160 racism or homophobia

00:24:36.880 as core to their

00:24:37.780 conservative identity

00:24:38.620 and just end up 1.00

00:24:39.460 looking foolish. 0.98

00:24:41.800 Because historically, 0.98

00:24:42.960 this is not part

00:24:43.660 of the conservative movement.

00:24:44.540 in modern times,

00:24:46.440 this is not a conservative base.

00:24:48.200 They are just

00:24:48.720 little 4chan kids

00:24:50.220 looking for acceptance.

00:24:51.440 And a lot of 4chan is good.

00:24:52.400 What I mean by this is

00:24:53.240 little people

00:24:54.080 who are not 4chan contributors,

00:24:56.640 but just watch other people

00:24:57.900 post there

00:24:58.580 and try to decide

00:24:59.900 how they would fit in

00:25:01.220 in this world framework

00:25:03.520 that doesn't actually exist.

00:25:05.480 And then go to other platforms

00:25:06.780 where they do feel safe

00:25:08.100 because they're too scared

00:25:09.200 to post on like

00:25:10.080 the real generator

00:25:11.680 of online culture. 1.00

00:25:12.720 and then post racist shit 1.00

00:25:15.140 on YouTube 1.00

00:25:16.520 or homophobic shit 1.00

00:25:17.680 on YouTube. 1.00

00:25:18.740 And they don't realize

00:25:19.960 that no,

00:25:20.720 the majority of conservatives

00:25:21.740 don't agree with them.

00:25:23.540 And I'm talking

00:25:24.580 real extremist conservatives

00:25:26.940 don't agree with them. 1.00

00:25:28.280 They think that they're pathetic 1.00

00:25:29.340 and that in truth, 0.99

00:25:32.100 our movement

00:25:32.700 is one of diversity.

00:25:33.880 It is,

00:25:34.640 and I think in the next

00:25:35.460 election cycle,

00:25:36.060 the majority of gay males.

00:25:37.920 It is the people

00:25:38.640 who actually...

00:25:39.720 The stats previously showed.

00:25:41.460 It's a little bit

00:25:43.700 less than half,

00:25:44.460 but you think it's basically

00:25:45.460 just gotten worse,

00:25:46.260 just like we've seen

00:25:47.160 with many Latin American groups

00:25:48.940 that are just seeing

00:25:49.860 themselves being

00:25:50.840 completely left behind

00:25:52.560 by the Democratic Party

00:25:54.180 in policies

00:25:54.900 and in behavior, right?

00:25:56.080 So you just think

00:25:56.520 it's just a bigger proportion

00:25:57.920 now,

00:25:58.280 probably the majority?

00:26:00.420 Yeah.

00:26:01.600 I do think

00:26:02.400 it'll be the majority.

00:26:03.140 And if it's not

00:26:03.460 this election cycle,

00:26:04.180 it'll be the next one.

00:26:05.800 Because these are the groups

00:26:07.260 who understand oppression.

00:26:08.400 these are the people

00:26:12.200 who fought

00:26:12.780 for all of these rights.

00:26:13.820 To have everything

00:26:15.300 they fought

00:26:16.220 and died for

00:26:17.700 co-opted

00:26:18.780 by a movement

00:26:19.740 that they,

00:26:21.020 one,

00:26:21.340 don't agree with

00:26:22.120 and is fundamentally

00:26:23.160 against their value set

00:26:24.900 is horrifying.

00:26:28.760 Sorry,

00:26:29.200 I might be getting

00:26:29.620 a little emotional in this,

00:26:30.840 but that's because

00:26:31.240 these are communities

00:26:31.900 that I care about

00:26:32.780 and I can't imagine

00:26:34.260 what it must feel like

00:26:35.020 to be a member

00:26:35.520 of one of these communities,

00:26:36.480 especially one who

00:26:37.100 sacrificed so much.

00:26:38.400 And then to have

00:26:40.020 everything that you

00:26:42.120 fought for

00:26:43.000 co-opted by people

00:26:44.400 who left you

00:26:46.100 to fight alone

00:26:47.500 until they could

00:26:48.660 use your identity

00:26:49.900 to elevate

00:26:50.800 their own social status

00:26:52.220 and move forward

00:26:53.560 this

00:26:53.880 mimetic virus

00:26:56.020 that is destroying

00:26:57.500 our society

00:26:58.360 and that needs

00:26:59.380 to be quarantined

00:27:00.580 and erased.

00:27:01.860 You know,

00:27:02.100 Sweet Baby Inc.,

00:27:02.760 I've been watching

00:27:03.340 more stuff about them

00:27:04.980 recently

00:27:05.400 and this whole

00:27:07.280 Gamergate 2 thing

00:27:08.220 and they're like,

00:27:08.680 oh,

00:27:08.940 you know,

00:27:09.180 we're just trying

00:27:09.840 to diversify games

00:27:11.840 and by diversify games,

00:27:13.120 they mean make them

00:27:13.820 ultra-progressive.

00:27:16.260 Right?

00:27:17.140 Which is really homogenizing.

00:27:18.940 It's a racist

00:27:19.860 and it doesn't matter 0.90

00:27:20.760 the color of your skin.

00:27:22.820 If you're,

00:27:23.260 you know,

00:27:24.900 I was watching

00:27:25.440 Clownfish TV recently

00:27:26.420 and they're talking

00:27:26.700 about one of the most

00:27:27.260 famous comic artists

00:27:28.040 these days,

00:27:28.520 any comic artist

00:27:29.120 who's really against 0.96

00:27:29.680 wokeness is a black guy. 0.99

00:27:30.720 They don't care. 1.00

00:27:31.820 They don't care

00:27:32.520 because you lose.

00:27:34.160 It's not actually

00:27:35.020 about race to them.

00:27:35.880 In fact,

00:27:36.880 it's almost the antithesis.

00:27:38.060 Like,

00:27:38.160 they are the epitome

00:27:39.660 of racism

00:27:40.960 in our society

00:27:41.760 and homophobia

00:27:42.440 in our society

00:27:43.320 given the way

00:27:43.880 that they have

00:27:44.280 brutalized these communities.

00:27:47.660 Depressing.

00:27:48.700 And their history

00:27:49.560 and identity.

00:27:50.360 But I'm wondering

00:27:50.740 if you have any

00:27:51.240 closing thoughts here,

00:27:52.460 Simone?

00:27:54.140 What I find

00:27:55.180 to be encouraging

00:27:55.800 is that I think

00:27:57.200 that these communities

00:27:58.060 are uniquely resilient.

00:27:59.660 there's a reason

00:28:00.740 why the progressive left

00:28:05.100 has really tried

00:28:06.800 to take them over

00:28:07.700 because they had created

00:28:09.280 something of immense power

00:28:11.100 and goodness.

00:28:12.860 And I think now

00:28:13.960 that they're kind of

00:28:16.680 back to a new zone

00:28:18.520 without necessarily

00:28:19.800 the same home

00:28:20.520 that they'd already created,

00:28:21.460 that their home

00:28:21.860 has been appropriated

00:28:22.620 and taken away from them

00:28:23.640 in terms of advocacy,

00:28:25.020 et cetera,

00:28:26.100 I still have every confidence

00:28:27.880 that they're going

00:28:28.480 to be just fine

00:28:29.460 because they're smart,

00:28:31.300 they're resourceful

00:28:31.980 and these movements

00:28:32.840 did get big

00:28:33.600 under their watch.

00:28:35.100 Now they're being destroyed

00:28:35.860 of course,

00:28:36.720 but they'll create

00:28:38.360 new subcultures,

00:28:39.580 new movements

00:28:40.120 and they're going

00:28:41.140 to be just fine

00:28:41.960 because honestly

00:28:42.760 these are incredibly

00:28:43.980 resilient groups of people.

00:28:45.700 They're incredibly smart

00:28:46.560 and resourceful

00:28:47.360 and they've only made it

00:28:49.140 this far

00:28:49.800 and they've only normalized

00:28:51.160 different from

00:28:52.920 historical,

00:28:53.920 societal,

00:28:55.120 sexual preferences

00:28:55.920 because they've been

00:28:57.860 that good.

00:28:59.080 So I don't think

00:29:00.540 it's hopeless.

00:29:01.180 I think it's incredibly

00:29:02.260 gross what has happened

00:29:04.060 and I see your disgust

00:29:05.380 and totally identify

00:29:06.400 with it,

00:29:06.960 but I'm also

00:29:07.860 always of the mindset

00:29:09.300 that the fit shall win

00:29:11.640 and they are the fit.

00:29:14.280 They shall win.

00:29:14.840 Well, I mean, 0.93

00:29:15.440 gay men still 1.00

00:29:16.520 are the primary generators

00:29:17.980 of new cultural ideas

00:29:19.100 in our society.

00:29:19.920 The rest of the LGBT movement

00:29:21.140 has never really generated,

00:29:22.600 you know,

00:29:23.560 durable new cultural ideas.

00:29:25.300 And so as these new people

00:29:28.980 of the now dissonant class,

00:29:31.580 which is considered

00:29:32.220 the intellectually dissonant class,

00:29:33.800 which is now conservative, 0.89

00:29:35.240 I think the generative gay men 0.96

00:29:37.160 will continue,

00:29:37.900 as you say,

00:29:38.740 to play this major role

00:29:40.300 in society.

00:29:41.480 The same with Black men, 1.00

00:29:43.180 right?

00:29:43.440 Like,

00:29:43.980 who's the number one conservative

00:29:45.460 after Trump?

00:29:46.400 Kanye, right?

00:29:47.300 Like,

00:29:47.840 in terms of public mind share.

00:29:50.100 Even somehow more horrible 0.92

00:29:51.640 than Trump.

00:29:52.200 I'm sure he's not considered

00:29:53.300 Black bi-progressives. 1.00

00:29:55.020 But,

00:29:55.400 the other thing I wanted to note

00:29:57.260 is that in many ways,

00:29:58.580 this stealing of their identity

00:30:00.100 and then transforming it,

00:30:01.660 the

00:30:01.840 reconstruction of the pride flag

00:30:05.020 is

00:30:05.760 a gift

00:30:06.320 to the

00:30:07.540 real

00:30:08.280 gay community,

00:30:09.540 the old gay community.

00:30:11.440 And that now,

00:30:12.060 and we were saying this,

00:30:12.960 you know,

00:30:13.220 we were at the

00:30:13.700 last log cabin Republicans

00:30:16.940 meeting at

00:30:17.680 Mar-a-Lago.

00:30:18.840 It's actually the first time

00:30:19.600 we saw Trump.

00:30:20.280 And this group,

00:30:22.680 the joke I kept saying is,

00:30:23.640 I love that we can now

00:30:24.540 fly the rainbow pride flag

00:30:25.960 and be seen as conservative

00:30:27.320 and dissident.

00:30:28.920 You mean the original

00:30:29.760 gay pride flag?

00:30:30.660 Yeah,

00:30:31.060 yeah,

00:30:31.320 before it was like

00:30:32.540 signaling that you're

00:30:33.320 a progressive.

00:30:34.420 Now,

00:30:34.980 you fly the original flag

00:30:36.600 and you're signaling

00:30:37.540 that you support

00:30:38.260 the real,

00:30:38.980 you know.

00:30:40.280 Yeah,

00:30:40.640 it's like practically

00:30:41.360 flying a Trump flag

00:30:42.520 or a let's go Brandon flag.

00:30:45.120 I love it.

00:30:45.940 Edgy,

00:30:46.460 edgy.

00:30:49.300 So weird.

00:30:50.280 Yeah,

00:30:50.760 but again,

00:30:52.080 they're going to be fine

00:30:53.140 because,

00:30:53.960 you know,

00:30:55.360 the best win

00:30:56.460 in the end.

00:30:58.020 And I think gay culture

00:30:59.340 is incredible

00:30:59.940 and resilient

00:31:01.180 and it always has been.

00:31:03.060 So,

00:31:04.000 you know,

00:31:04.420 at least we're starting

00:31:05.860 from a better

00:31:06.500 starting point

00:31:07.420 where,

00:31:08.000 you know,

00:31:09.220 people aren't being,

00:31:10.600 at least in our culture,

00:31:12.760 killed

00:31:13.560 or jailed 0.92

00:31:14.720 or hormonally sterilized

00:31:17.300 once they're found to be.

00:31:19.320 Whoa,

00:31:20.580 people in our culture

00:31:21.920 aren't being hormonally sterilized

00:31:23.820 once they're found to be. 0.59

00:31:26.380 There's more less lesbians 1.00

00:31:28.080 these days.

00:31:28.800 How many young gay men 0.60

00:31:30.100 do you think 0.53

00:31:30.520 have been hormonally sterilized

00:31:32.040 who were confused

00:31:33.000 about their gender identity?

00:31:34.900 Well,

00:31:35.340 okay.

00:31:36.120 Okay,

00:31:36.420 well,

00:31:36.560 they're not being killed

00:31:37.200 or jailed.

00:31:38.220 So,

00:31:38.340 yeah,

00:31:38.540 yeah,

00:31:39.240 it's going to be fine.

00:31:41.060 It's going to be fine.

00:31:41.800 It's going to be fine.

00:31:42.380 It's going to be fine.

00:31:43.080 I love you.

00:31:44.500 Oh,

00:31:44.940 by the way,

00:31:45.360 one of my favorite things

00:31:46.400 recently is there was this

00:31:47.600 thing on the trans people

00:31:49.360 who had been killed

00:31:50.080 this last year

00:31:50.700 for Trans Awareness Day

00:31:52.020 and it turned out

00:31:52.940 that the murder rate

00:31:54.420 was lower

00:31:55.220 than the general population.

00:31:56.940 Oh! 0.60

00:31:57.260 So just to run the numbers

00:31:59.920 on that,

00:32:00.440 here is a report

00:32:02.260 complaining that

00:32:03.060 more than 300 trans people

00:32:04.720 killed in 2023

00:32:05.940 and if you look

00:32:07.700 in the United States,

00:32:08.760 they had 31

00:32:09.840 were killed in the U.S.

00:32:10.880 So you can say

00:32:11.400 what percent of the U.S.

00:32:12.200 population is trans.

00:32:13.940 It's about 1% these days,

00:32:15.960 which means there's about

00:32:17.060 3 million trans people

00:32:18.280 in the United States

00:32:19.140 and so if you say,

00:32:20.460 okay,

00:32:20.680 31 people murdered

00:32:22.280 in a 3 million population,

00:32:23.840 that brings the murder rate

00:32:26.060 to 0.00001

00:32:30.340 in the trans community

00:32:31.440 versus the general population,

00:32:33.760 which would be 0.0063.

00:32:36.300 So it's literally

00:32:37.520 orders of magnitude

00:32:39.040 lower than the general population.

00:32:41.860 Almost none of them

00:32:42.920 were killed for being trans. 0.89

00:32:44.280 It was all like 0.98

00:32:45.160 they had robbed

00:32:45.960 from someone.

00:32:46.840 They've been mugged

00:32:47.220 or something?

00:32:48.280 No, no, no. 1.00

00:32:48.700 It was mostly shit 1.00

00:32:49.480 they had done to other people, yeah. 1.00

00:32:50.980 Oh, no.

00:32:52.200 Oh, no, no, no.

00:32:54.000 Oh, bad luck, bad luck.

00:32:55.300 They should never publish those stats.

00:32:56.640 Love you to death, Simone.

00:32:57.960 I love you, too.

00:33:00.780 Oh, God.

00:33:01.760 I didn't know that.

00:33:02.480 That's crazy.

00:33:04.860 Oh.

Based Camp - March 28, 2024

Why The Left Has to Erase the Gay Male Identity

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