00:00:10.240But I have this great essay that I came across by one of the black women who was one of the few very elite beneficiaries of DEI, who is now very angry about the beginning of the end.
00:00:24.800She actually said something that validated what I said going into this.
00:00:29.020no she said i paid off a large amount of my credit card debt what she is saying is that she
00:00:36.580one didn't pay off all of her credit card debt which is pretty astonishing to have so much
00:00:42.920credit card debt that during a period of your life where you are having a financial windfall
00:00:46.860you cannot even pay it all off let me see we have a second episode in this one
00:00:51.100of you just going off on indians no no that's that's just for the would you like to know more
00:00:57.980hello Malcolm I'm excited to be speaking with you today because oh my gosh and just I've decided
00:01:06.120that basically if I were a black woman in America or if like one of our daughters just
00:01:10.540was a black woman in America I'd basically be saying like go off the grid girl like it's it's
00:01:15.760over just I I don't know what to do because we've already talked so much about like how the dating
00:01:20.260cards are stacked against them like if we're just playing like a video game of but based on reality
00:01:26.180style stats yeah what do you want to do if it's a dating game is to be a black woman like anyone
00:01:31.160but be a black woman and now black women are burst on the dating market and the okay cupid stats
00:01:37.100they like they're one of the only ethnic matchups black women where their own race doesn't even have
00:01:44.180a preference for them whoever has a preference against yeah it's like just no one so i mean like
00:01:48.160so so yeah like go live by yourself off the grid because now oh do you know how bad it is to be a
00:01:55.260black woman on online dating you literally from the okay cupid statistics guys who are like mad
00:02:02.420incel whatever's black women actually have a lower chance of having somebody reply to them
00:02:09.060than white men do i know i know keep that in mind that's how women yeah no because like white men
00:02:15.900you think like it couldn't be worse oh it can be oh you think you have it bad you're a white dude
00:02:20.860watching this show you don't even know and and now whether they which is really frustrating whether
00:02:26.360or not they bought in to like all the sort of dei stuff that had recently helped many black women in
00:02:32.860america it looks like maybe the cards are stacked against them in the job market too and that sucks
00:02:40.060here are some choice stats from an article i came across covering this in december 2025 black women
00:02:45.520were spending an average of 29.7 weeks or more than seven months unemployed, the highest rate
00:02:52.120among every group of women and among all men except Black men, who had a slightly higher
00:02:56.460average, the 19th reports. And then at the height of the summer volatility, Black women accounted
00:03:01.760for 54.7% of all female job losses, despite making up only 14.1% of the female workforce,
00:03:09.640according to analysis by the Institute for Women's Policy Research. And what's sick
00:03:15.020is that the racket that caused the backlash
00:03:37.840who has gone through sort of the DEI renaissance
00:03:41.380and who very clearly financially benefited from it and then now is experiencing the fallout as
00:03:49.240there has been backlash against it. And then I want to look at examples of other instances in
00:03:55.120which presumably well-intentioned, though we'll see it's not really, efforts to help specific
00:04:02.200groups have backfired, ultimately hurting them. And I think really the punchline of this is what
00:04:08.040you actually see when you look at other or previous like favoritism or affirmative action
00:04:13.300programs, they were never actually meant to help underprivileged groups. And this is super
00:04:19.060interesting. I didn't really put this all together until I just started doing research for this
00:04:23.540episode, but really what it is, is a dominant power, be it like a regime or colonial power
00:04:31.340chooses a specific minority group to basically be its minions and execute its prerogative.
00:04:38.040And then when that colonial power either loses some footing or there's a regime change, that group of minions that they had empowered disproportionately to do their bidding gets major backlash.
00:04:56.320You see this with Jews? You see this? I'm going to give examples from Rwanda. I'm going to give examples from Protestants in England.
00:05:03.040So what I'm pointing out, though, is what we don't realize is that Black women in this instance were the minions of the latest colonial power.
00:05:17.100We literally call the progress pride flag the colonizer's flag of the urban monoculture.
00:05:23.580the urban monoculture had appointed black women as their minority group minions to execute their
00:05:31.140bidding and had installed them systematically power oh and and what's fascinating is as soon
00:05:38.240as people realized well this is unfair because only black women have access to it why don't we
00:05:42.100just make trans people our community of power they abandoned black women yeah and and and well
00:05:48.520And then since there's been at least a partial regime change, both of those groups have seen a major falling out.
00:05:55.660And what's what sucks if you like, let's say you're you're a Tutsi in Rwanda or you're, you know, some other group that has been given disproportionate power by the regime in charge or by a foreign colonist.
00:06:08.780Right. That foreign group or the regime that's in power, like they're sitting high.
00:06:13.120Right. They're above the fray. Right. They're they're fine.
00:06:15.480like okay we'll go we'll go with tootsies and in rwanda and and for context i'll just jump forward
00:06:21.380to like this example of what of what happened because i think not that many people are familiar
00:06:25.400with rwanda genocide because it's kind of depressing belgian colonial authorities
00:06:30.080radicalized and elevated the tootsie minority as superior reserving most education and
00:06:36.240administrative posts for them and then using tootsie chiefs to enforce basically forced labor
00:06:42.420on the Hutu majority. And then after the late 1950s, there was an independent struggle. And in
00:06:48.500the 1959 to 62 social revolution, Hutu elites seized power, carried out massacres, imposed
00:06:55.440systematic discrimination, and drove hundreds of thousands of Tutsi into exile. And that laid the
00:07:00.900groundwork for subsequent 1994 genocide. So the Tutsis went from being like, given all this
00:07:06.960privilege and extra education and kind of given the power to like anger a lot of people and then
00:07:13.580in the end they got genocided and it's just a really good it's one of the more extreme and
00:07:18.080stark cases where a very externally created privileged status then intensified into backlash
00:07:24.720that was really violent but this whole time the Belgians are fine right and it's not like all
00:07:31.440Tutsis were like they actively choosing to participate to participate in this right you
00:07:35.860know this is over multi-generate like in 1994 is when the genocide took place and a lot of this
00:07:40.440stuff was happening in the early 50s so like kids of people who had like no participation in this
00:07:45.320are getting caught up in it and that's what really sucks about this you know favoritism
00:07:49.360is like a very small minority of of the of the of the the minions will say the colonial minions
00:07:56.740gets to benefit from the favoritism the dei the affirmative action the whatever it is right
00:08:02.300and then everyone else in their group pays a very big price typically just I would say a
00:08:11.100disproportionate price and I just didn't realize until today that that is probably happening to
00:08:18.700black women but I have this great short little essay that I came across just a little a little
00:08:24.180treasure by one of the one of the Black women who I would say was one of the few very elite
00:08:32.600beneficiaries of DEI, who is now very angry about the beginning of the end. And so what happened
00:08:39.860basically was the purse, which is a sort of financial management economics focused substack
00:08:46.120published a guest essay from Sally Bowen, which is titled Black Women Aren't Just Unemployed.
00:08:54.180they're being erased. And I'm going to share some choice quotes from the article.
00:08:58.520I want to go into a few other challenges that Black women have in regards to this stuff.
00:09:03.840Yeah. One is, one is cultural and the other is, what's the word I'm looking for? So
00:09:09.780one is like, oh yes. Like the fact that immigrants are so much better off than like
00:09:14.620descendants of slaves. Black women who grew up in the United States,
00:09:19.120you typically, when you're sort of building your personality, as we talk about, you have
00:09:23.000a sort of theory of mind that's constantly running in the background and determines what you think
00:09:28.860about things so what i mean by that is you experience some environmental stimuli you
00:09:33.000experience some thought and you're trying to decide what emotion you have in response to that
00:09:37.200what you do is you say you you there's a part of your brain your your consciousness that references
00:09:42.620this theory of mind that's running and is asking what does somebody like me feel about this because
00:09:49.720you can feel different things. I mean, we taught this like Adam's family theory. If you want to
00:09:53.420interpret, you know, wilted roses positively, you can. It's completely determined on how you see
00:10:00.180yourself and what sort of person you see yourself as. Most people really only have as a choice
00:10:06.080for this internal model of themselves, a trope that they are aware of in society because they
00:10:12.460do not have, it's very rare for somebody to have the self-knowledge and ownership to be able to
00:10:17.900construct their own trope of themselves completely a priori. And the problem is, is that when you
00:10:25.940are choosing that trope, you know, or that trope is sort of choosing for you, it's choosing from
00:10:31.260a number of tropes you see in your society. And this is where like representation does actually
00:10:36.580matter. The problem is, is that black women do not have many tropes to choose between. And the
00:10:43.940ones that they do have to choose between are generally pretty unlikable and toxic yeah and so
00:10:50.400when they're choosing like what is it like to be me like what's my personality as a black woman
00:10:55.680yeah they may see black women astronauts now and they may see black women lead characters now but
00:11:01.840they all have like one of two personality profiles constructed by woke people that in real life are
00:11:07.900actually quite toxic to be around the self-assured sassy puts down men you know now they don't they
00:11:15.960didn't decide to do this on their own but they saw oh this is the way a black woman acts because
00:11:20.300this is the way black women act in in the media i have seen in the world that i've seen right if
00:11:25.300they don't see some alternate archetype within their family or within their church um which you
00:11:32.340used to have other black women archetypes but society i mean there are many out there i mean
00:11:38.940i think one that is more common because i i've watched a bunch of shows because they frankly
00:11:45.120have the best fashion that have like mostly all black either mostly or all black casts
00:11:49.840is just like the long-suffering doing it all for everyone woman which i don't know i don't
00:11:59.380see as like particularly negative forever yeah maybe inadequate delegation but like that's it
00:12:06.000that's a common one in latin american culture too um but the the the second thing i was going to say
00:12:11.400is it's a black cultural problem so we'll do a separate episode on this someday where i'd point
00:12:16.700out that black americans took a lot of their culture from the culture that i come from the
00:12:24.200scott's irish culture they are culturally very very very similar as i point out you know i'll
00:12:30.980i find that surprising that you'd say that i mean because i feel like if you look at
00:12:34.180the cultural anthropology of black americans there's so much like french influence that's
00:12:40.820why you see a lot of french influence in black names in america um you've got the whole like
00:12:49.040the french influence is highly affectatious it's not actually in their culture so if i am going to
00:12:55.860describe a stereotype that is offensive of two groups gathering okay they are out barbecuing
00:13:04.100they just got back from church they are loudly listening to music that is descendant from
00:13:09.760country and blues music right this is like exactly what like we would do they are eating
00:13:14.940fried chicken and eating watermelons which we would too okay actually never mind yeah okay
00:13:21.100fair what two groups have parties exactly like that yeah rednecks the the group that i come from
00:13:27.300and black americans they are highly resistant to people who think like they they feel in an
00:13:34.160inflectious anger to people who think they're better than them they are both highly conspiratorial
00:13:39.860groups very obsessed with conspiracy theories um they both are anti-authority groups they are both
00:13:46.480unusually violent groups but the one thing that the black culture did not copy over which has
00:13:53.420unfortunately hugely damaged them is a reflective disgust for people showing off wealth or status
00:14:01.700and as such black culture unfortunately has a problem with investing too much of the money
00:14:11.860they pull in in signs of wealth and status particularly expensive ones where you will see
00:14:19.840even like famous rappers rent jewelry so they can look even fame wealthier than they most like most
00:14:26.840wrap or jewelry is rented did you not know that it's so they think even that much more wealthier
00:14:32.520than they actually are like they should have all of the money they ever need and yet they need to
00:14:37.460show off an even exaggerated and fake iteration of their wealth which is obviously like hyper toxic
00:14:44.820which puts them in a uniquely financially insecure situation but continue wow okay i'm sorry i just
00:14:52.900now need to look at a jewelry rental because i yeah that's fascinating well actually another
00:14:59.320place you see this in black culture is in the ways that blacks form gangs blacks never formed
00:15:07.160a gang that was as hierarchically organized as successfully as the catholic gangs like the mob
00:15:16.040or the mafia or ms16 or whatever they have had large gangs like the crypts and the bloods and
00:15:21.520stuff like that but they function more like backwoods gangs which would be like groups with
00:15:27.260lots of internal warring factions that are highly decentralized and often at war with themselves as
00:15:33.700much as the outside which is why when you would think that blacks should have more domination
00:15:39.500over criminal enterprises it's often other groups of immigrant gangs that have more domination over
00:15:46.440the large organized criminal enterprises and the black gangs that are usually exploited by those
00:15:52.020gangs as foot soldiers okay interesting right anyway yes i'm going to i'm going to read this
00:15:59.140this woman this woman's sub stack article black women aren't just unemployed they're being arrested
00:16:05.000first she she lays out the landscape i'm not going to read i'm going to read most of the article
00:16:08.760because it's pretty short but i'll go fast so she sets up the landscape since last fall general
00:16:13.540unemployment rates in the U.S. have ticked up 4.4% from 4% at the start of 2025. At the same time,
00:16:21.040the jobless rate for Black women has surged from 5.4% in January 2025 to a high of 7.5% last
00:16:28.720September. Economist Katisha Roy estimates that since 2020, the real unemployment rate for Black
00:16:37.480women is 10.23%, which is really high. There have been several factors linked to the
00:16:43.020disproportionate destabilization the huge ai push which is automating jobs that humans were once
00:16:48.240paid to do is one last year's mass cut of government jobs where black women are represented
00:16:53.880at twice the rate as the in the private sector and then the abrupt elimination of dei programs
00:16:59.460under the current trump administration are notable others as one of those black women
00:17:03.660sideline from the job market this crisis feels personal i didn't know i just finished reading
00:17:08.900that there were black women are employed in the government at twice the rate as a private sector
00:17:13.820that is crazy well because they they benefit from dei more in the in the government than in the
00:17:18.800private sector and i i want to note here first of all the mere fact that we are seeing a statistical
00:17:23.660fallout from the number of jobs that were cut in the government um indicates that doge was actually
00:17:29.620effective because a lot of people have been like no it wasn't effective they just rehired them all
00:17:32.940as contractors and it's like well clearly not are these black women wouldn't be having an employment
00:17:36.840issue, right? So they must be rehiring the ones who weren't there for DEI reasons, which sounds
00:17:41.920like a good thing for me. The second issue that we're dealing with here is when you create
00:17:47.780something like DEI, you create a perception on the market, especially if they've gone on to
00:17:53.560like higher positions than they would otherwise be able to get within the government, which
00:17:56.600they did get. You just cannot trust their competence if somebody meets ex-racial heuristics,
00:18:03.920Right. And black women have unfortunately been left in that position sort of on the job market where somebody is just going to even a black woman who's just being sane about things like, oh, I bet you she had it easy, you know, because.
00:18:18.940She probably wasn't subject to the same pressures. And I honestly, I didn't believe, I didn't believe
00:18:26.660her. I was like, that can't be true. But it is true that data from federal EEO reports and labor
00:18:32.200researchers show that Black women are roughly twice the share of overall labor in the federal
00:18:37.160and broader public sector employment. So they're about 11 to 12% of the federal workforce versus
00:18:42.000roughly six to seven percent of the civilian labor force so just just to point out their
00:18:49.720share in the private sector roughly represents their share of the population so it's not weird
00:18:55.480it's not like they're discriminated against in the private sector it's that there's clearly
00:18:59.340positive discrimination of some sort in the public sector even though title let's see title seven of
00:19:07.660the civil rights act makes it illegal for any employer including the government to make hiring
00:19:11.500decisions based on race whether that's against a particular racial group or just something else
00:19:16.980and so something's kind of weird happening because you don't get like disproportionate
00:19:23.680per the population in in government without some form of discrimination i think yeah but the the
00:19:29.260interesting thing another interesting thing we're seeing i think that's gonna really hurt black
00:19:32.740women is that you have a new sort of favored class within the urban monoculture and you can see this
00:19:39.000in groups that are extremely woke, you know, more woke than government, which is something like the
00:19:44.180video games industry. So in the latest video games industry report of the employees who were under
00:19:48.86040, 40% of them, that's like 20 times the rate of the general population were gay or LGBTQ in some
00:19:56.200way. And so that population, the larger alphabet soup population that really anyone can identify
00:20:02.580into if they feel like it, as I've pointed out, that technically by LGBT rules, Simone and I are
00:20:07.540trans because i don't identify strongly with my gender which makes me gender queer she doesn't
00:20:12.420either like i just don't care it's i do not see why people think we really don't care yeah i
00:20:16.720cannot emulate why a trans person would care enough to undergo major surgery if i was a girl
00:20:23.000i'd just be like whatever i'll live my life as a girl now i'll figure it out right like and that
00:20:29.520makes me trans so it's funny the mere fact that i can't understand why a trans person would care
00:20:34.680puts me in their weird gender queer umbrella. So trans individuals. So, so anyone can identify,
00:20:40.800I could identify as I wanted to, which gets me an advantage in the video games industry. Well,
00:20:44.980now, you know, I don't need to fill these spots with black women. And so a lot of black women
00:20:49.100were falling into the boomer woke, I guess I'd call it like the older version of woke,
00:20:54.680which you see within the government and stuff like that. People haven't gotten the message
00:20:58.340that the rules have changed about who you favor and what's worse about boomer woke is boomer woke
00:21:04.860jobs are the jobs that are the easiest to automate with ai you know it is the the you know the pencil
00:21:10.320pusher at the dmv or something like that which is the very first jobs we should be automating
00:21:14.800and those jobs were disproportionately held by black women yeah yeah speaking of even like the
00:21:21.700private sector favoritism we're going to see that in her reflection of her personal experience so
00:21:27.160she wrote, I've been self-employed since October 2019 when I was laid off as senior entertainment
00:21:33.320editor at Nylon following an acquisition and rebrand. I got lucky and sold my first book
00:21:38.820just months later, a collection of essays about Black feminism at the intersection of hip-hop
00:21:43.540culture and class. I spent the next year living on my advance and a few freelance commissions.
00:21:49.200Hold on, I'm going to tell you the title of the book and I'm going to read a description and then
00:21:52.460you can comment because that might give you more. And once my manuscript was done, I pivoted to
00:21:57.240copywriting. So just before you comment on how like the now dying publishing industry
00:22:03.340disproportionately favored certain types. And this was one of those, you know, I mean, right.
00:22:08.840The publishing world was a big arm of what we would call the colonizers of the urban monoculture.
00:22:15.640They were hiring their chosen minion class, which included black women and trans people.
00:22:21.280she was one of them and she benefited from it her book just so you know is one it looked pretty
00:22:27.980successful it got it has 351 almost five-star reviews on amazon it is titled bad fat black
00:22:35.460girl notes from a trap feminist bit from the description bad fat black girl offers a new
00:22:41.580god i sound so white offers a new inclusive feminism for the modern world weaving together
00:22:47.320searing personal essay and cultural commentary bowen interrogates sexism fat phobia and capitalism
00:22:54.400all within the context of race and hip-hop in the process she continues a black feminist legacy
00:23:01.540of unmatched sheer determination and creative resilience comment so one where was she laid off
00:23:09.840nylon right like woke industry woke job and you can tell from what she wrote just i want to point
00:23:16.980out right the the british empire you know the whatever like belgians they were above it all
00:23:21.900while there's genociding taking place the the people who sold nylon sold nylon made money
00:23:28.340yeah you know like all these people are above it the colonizers are not in the fray the black women
00:23:36.400are catching strays at the end of all this just want to point that out okay and this is why it
00:23:43.720you know they i i i get that but we're seeing a collapse of that empire right yeah we're seeing
00:23:51.360media companies and a lot of this has come downstream of as people keep mentioning the
00:23:56.320shutdown of united aid after united a us us aid yeah usa tons of media outlets but like like woke
00:24:06.000media outlets have started going bankrupt all of a sudden out of nowhere and like it appears that
00:24:10.360It may have been funding more than we realized in terms of the woke media landscape.
00:24:16.960And so now, you know, entertainers like us are able to replace him.
00:24:40.360they were tired when people stop buying i know actually i'm gonna push back hard here when people
00:24:43.900stop buying woke video games eventually the entire video game industry in america collapses
00:24:48.520yeah they cashed out already malcolm they spent the nylon was sold they cashed out there's a lot
00:24:54.960of woke foot soldiers that are not black women simone there are a lot of trans woke foot soldiers
00:25:01.080a lot of the trans i would say that black women and trans people were were among like they were
00:25:06.360they were both the tutsis you know and at the end i can give more examples of groups like this i'm
00:25:11.120just using them because you know anyway continue she continues the opportunity to transfer my
00:25:17.500writing skills to branding and creative strategy was afforded to me on the heels of 2020's racial
00:25:22.420justice reckoning widespread reminders that black lives matter forced white people to confront their
00:25:27.480own biases about people of color and actively move past them to be better allies when it came
00:25:32.740to Black women specifically, this was easy to do because we were in the final years of hashtag
00:25:37.400Black Girl Magic era. Spanning the 2010s to early 2020s, this period amplified how important Black
00:25:43.900women are to American culture. The general sentiment during this era was to trust Black
00:25:48.760women as we were venerated for our expertise on politics, education, beauty, entertainment,
00:25:54.920and so much more. I didn't know about Black Girl Magic because I am not that terminally online,
00:25:59.560i guess but it was this it just celebrated basically like honestly i think it was kind
00:26:05.160of a mechanism of the minimization of of black women for the colonizers flag the urban monoculture
00:26:12.200but it was just like oh black women are leaders in beauty and strength and creativity and and oh
00:26:17.840black women and girls have done so much and the phrase began as black girls are magic it was
00:26:22.680coined by kashaun thompson around 2013 and then it was shortened into a hashtag just just for those
00:26:28.420but you can see i mean i i that's a racially supremacist term you know like it's it's it's
00:26:34.600racist it's white power it's bad especially if you're a group that is getting favor within the
00:26:40.200industries that you're working in when you are a group with demonstrable systemic power over other
00:26:47.480groups that's why it seems like tokenization like you need your magical black girl like what i mean
00:26:53.540they they wanted that and i think one of the things about all of this and this comes to what
00:26:56.980i was talking about earlier in terms of the archetypes available to them this woman like
00:27:01.620clearly she was captured by this and made herself into this well that's the thing is of course she
00:27:07.080leaned into it it made her a lot of money like it was her livelihood but she still i think any
00:27:13.340sane person reading this takes joy in the fact that somebody that is this much of a racial
00:27:19.680supremacist this much of a a genuinely vile human being from the stuff i'm hearing about her if a
00:27:26.520white person was doing this stuff talking about white lives mattered and stuff like that i'd be
00:27:31.220like you're you're like a really vile person and i'm glad to see you fail and i feel the same way
00:27:36.980when i hear about her as as do a lot of people so that's another problem in this is they like
00:27:42.700haven't learned off from or looked back and said wow you know i really took for granted when i had
00:27:50.000systemic power over other people and i was abusing that for years of my life and i even wrote a book
00:27:55.900about that like to dance on the graves of the people who were not able to to rise at those
00:28:02.940companies who were not able to for the book deal penguin for example recently put out on a number
00:28:08.060of their websites that they only want to take book deals from women and people from like rarer racial
00:28:14.960groups and then somebody has it's like a pokemon card it sounds overly european i think they even
00:28:20.240gave an example like brad or something they wouldn't look at their books they wouldn't look
00:28:24.100i weep for all the the the indigenous i don't know maori is the the racial discrimination
00:28:31.560in fields like the one she was in is very very blatant and often transparent within these
00:28:39.920organizations you know when i talk about the hugely over representation of lgbtq people
00:28:44.780in hiring in the video games industry that is because of discrimination right like that clearly
00:28:50.080other groups are being discriminated against for that group to have so much positive
00:28:53.780discrimination within them because they don't make up a disproportionate amount of video game
00:28:57.600fans everybody knows video game fans are predominantly straight white men right like
00:29:00.860that's that is the group that that's why they always get mad at them and say i hate gamers
00:29:05.460and everything like that and so that that's another challenge that black girls have is they
00:29:10.440just didn't have a lot of ways of being models to build of themselves when they were given this
00:29:18.680this option right like it's like this option or the sassy option or the beleaguered option right
00:29:24.700you don't you don't get a lot of others and very few people are aspirational about the beleaguered
00:29:28.340option yeah i'm trying to think that there are other good there's also the it's the version of
00:29:34.020the ice queen for black women that you see in what is that how to get away with murder and also in
00:29:39.260there's this other one with this like fixer in dc these are all i think like shonda rhymes shows
00:29:43.700which i think are delightful but it's like this sort of like like professional black powerhouse
00:29:48.300woman who you know is really badass but you know deeply emotionally hurting from everything that's
00:29:55.540wrong in her but i guess it's kind of a it's weird because it's a very empowered trope but it's also
00:30:00.280like but i'm a victim of my husband cheating on me or my boyfriend cheating on me and no and i'm
00:30:06.100holding it all together and being strong but i just you know like i don't know yeah anyway
00:30:11.460dramatic scenes of taking off wigs at the end of the day and looking in the mirror and
00:30:15.420having a thousand mile stare let's go on also it's take it for granted not granite it's not a
00:30:23.520rock it's granite okay no it's changing english changes okay it's never granite it's not granite
00:30:31.840you're not taking it for granite i am taking it for granite simone by the way did you know that
00:30:37.020granite marble tops are like mildly radioactive i didn't know that yeah terrified of them anyway
00:30:43.920she writes, during this time, about 30% of my revenue came from speaking and book engagements
00:30:50.140at universities and conferences. The rest consisted of freelance copywriting and brand
00:30:54.140strategy for different agencies and clients. I was the quintessential multi-hyphenate,
00:30:59.100and I started bringing in six figures annually. I self-funded my podcast about female rap,
00:31:04.680of course, for an entire season. I started working on my debut novel, and I paid off a good chunk of
00:31:11.100credit card debt i think that this is also indicative of the the continued but unseen and
00:31:17.800un-understood budget for dei like the reason why these speaking engagements happened was because
00:31:25.280corporations i think felt this need to have like there again and i think this is horrible like
00:31:31.220token like yeah i hire black influencers to talk about like hip-hop culture and to educate my
00:31:40.000team about she she actually said something that validated what i said going into this
00:31:45.980about financial regulation no she said i paid off a large amount of my credit card debt and
00:31:54.200credit card debt is is the worst kind of debt to have it's incredibly high interest it's usually
00:31:57.800you know it's it's stupid consumer debt that you shouldn't have had in the first place not even
00:32:00.940like student debt or like card loans yeah but i want to i want to sorry you can actually piece
00:32:05.920together a lot of her life from that sentence. What she is saying is that she, one, didn't pay
00:32:11.180off all of her credit card debt, which is pretty astonishing to have so much credit card debt that
00:32:17.460during a period of your life where you are having a financial windfall, you cannot even make it all
00:32:21.980off. And then secondly, as Simone was saying, that you have credit card debt in the first place.
00:32:28.020It is one thing. So just so you know, like if you're from our cultural group, how do you relate
00:32:33.540to credit because like in my cultural group the rules for relating to credit are very clear you
00:32:38.260can get credit card you can get debt credit card debt or really debt no debt no not credit card
00:32:44.960debt no credit card debt never credit card debt either no hold on either houses or cars
00:32:50.880transportation if if outside of and even those things like we know you're i think we're very
00:32:57.640similar to the mormon rules which is it's okay to take on debt for a student loan or for a
00:33:03.400mortgage i think cars are edge cases actually and and for business but rarer but we still do it
00:33:10.900but never like when when it comes to credit card debt now i'll note here we're we're we believe in
00:33:16.700using credit cards like i use a credit card every month so you have credit yeah so i have credit
00:33:22.280but i would never ever not pay off the balance every month about not if i didn't pay off the
00:33:30.220balance one month that would be like a massive emergency in my life yeah and this is true for
00:33:38.100many cultural groups i would say i think that this is like the normal way to relate to credit cards
00:33:43.220to not america anymore if you watch you know caleb hammer's show apparently right well i mean the
00:33:49.680point i'm making here is she's just dropping this incredibly casually like she's not embarrassed
00:33:54.900about it she doesn't see it as a major personal failure and this is not like a genetic thing for
00:34:01.340black women's or something like this she was taught that just having credit card debt for
00:34:06.640consumer purchases is normal yeah i mean that's fair i think that's it's also a really serious
00:34:12.280issue for white people too for something work related i've been looking at a lot of credit
00:34:16.020reports recently and i'm outlining an episode on what is money because i think that that
00:34:21.160collectively at least americans are sort of losing their concept of money in general of like it
00:34:26.520doesn't matter anyway like i'm not gonna pay you watching this show and have credit card debt like
00:34:33.180inter-months credit card you need to like get on that okay that is not a way to live okay that will
00:34:41.280that will like always lead to bad places eventually that means you are spending more money than you can
00:34:47.620afford to be spending and the amount of money you're going to be able to spend in your daily
00:34:52.540life is going to iteratively get less this is worse than like being morbidly obese or something
00:34:57.320it means you have literally built a lifestyle where you have more stuff than you can afford
00:35:04.500and you are trading your future quality of life in exchange for that yeah our tetris brick is down
00:35:12.020here and your tetris brick is up here and it's getting like higher it's very scary don't do it
00:35:17.600yeah but you're allowing that they can stay in the bouncy castle it's just as long as they work
00:35:22.340on it you can tear them out of the bouncy castle no they can they can keep watching the show they
00:35:27.020got a base camp okay but like that's a crazy line i paid off most of my credit card debt yeah but
00:35:35.220again like she was living off of the the the cultural platforming of her group as the minions
00:35:43.880of the urban monoculture. But here's where the tables turn. I continue reading from her article.
00:35:50.420Following Trump's 2025 inauguration and the string of executive orders that followed, I felt a shift
00:35:56.720almost immediately. Many of the institutions that are most likely to support my work fall under
00:36:02.420Trump's DEI umbrella. With his executive order dismantling federal funding for these initiatives,
00:36:08.460The organizations and academic departments that would have hosted me are now trying to remain compliant. My bookings have slowed to a near stop. One, I found this to be really enlightening because at first I read the Title VII thing of like, well, you can't have discrimination in hiring.
00:36:26.120But now I realize that all the DEI initiatives that existed in government were a way around that because there were programs specific around like, you know, a black history museum or something.
00:36:38.200And this is going to disproportionately attract and probably hire, you know, specific groups.
00:36:44.080And that included her particular group.
00:36:46.380She continues, these limiting policies coincided with the great AI boom. While I was used to
00:36:52.400lulls as a freelance creative strategist and copywriter, I only worked on two projects last
00:36:58.360year when I'm normally on six to 10. And while my career began as an entertainment journalist
00:37:03.360and culture critic, the continued deterioration of traditional media has also made this path
00:37:08.280unsustainable. So without any other viable options, I decided in late 2025 to start actively applying
00:37:14.500for full-time jobs. I was surprised at how little traction I gained. Over six months, I submitted
00:37:19.780dozens of applications that didn't even land me interviews. Even when I had an employee referral,
00:37:25.600the rejections led to full-on existential crisis and forced me to ask myself tough questions.
00:37:30.920Was I not using the right language to translate my skills? Does a multi-hyphenate muddy the waters
00:37:35.920when there are hundreds of applicants in a role? Did the author part of my career with a heavy,
00:37:41.120very Google-able online presence make me a red flag for behind the scenes roles that I could
00:37:46.860easily do in my sleep? Or was it the contents of said work? So first off, I have to stop here
00:37:52.040because this is where I'm like, oh my God, she is implying in this statement I just read that
00:37:58.200she submitted dozens of resumes, which means that she submitted fewer than 200 resumes over six
00:38:04.240months. Why? Because had she submitted more than 200 resumes, she would have written hundreds
00:38:37.860submitted dozens dozens of you know like fans you can't understand if you work in the way that we
00:38:44.740work that is like literally comical that is like well no she she let's just 10 10 a day and and
00:38:51.800then that's assuming 10 very involved ones so either you're doing a very involved application
00:38:55.800or you're doing the thing where you like learn about the business and then proactively pitch
00:39:01.300something to them like i noticed this about your website i've like preemptively fixed it or here's
00:39:06.360what i would do would you like me to like basically you know do a test project with you
00:39:11.220nobody does that i did that i would do jobs random companies yeah that like hadn't hired me and then
00:39:17.060send them the job that i had done and that's how you got some of your jobs yeah yeah because i'm
00:39:21.820like dude that's awesome didn't always work what she is saying here is basically i am comically
00:39:30.020unproductive i basically it's kind of no surprise that she got hired if if this is her work ethic
00:39:35.460She, she actually apparently has a very, very bad work ethic and was actually literally only profiting from being an identity and showing up. That's why she had, you know, the book deal and the podcast and the, the speaking engagements, because literally those involved just showing up and being a black multi-hyphenate as, as she puts herself, right?
00:39:59.460Like that is it, which is profoundly disturbing. And again, I want to highlight the fact that that these are the very select few privileged people who benefited from this short term period. And now they're making all black women suffer because now no one knows. It's kind of like the lemon problem with cars. Like you just don't know.
00:40:24.580well hold on i would i would actually point out here that you do kind of know i guess yeah i mean
00:40:30.140if you can tell if someone's smart and they have a good work ethic no that's not what i meant
00:40:33.600she is loudly signaling through her podcast work through her book name through her online fame
00:40:38.780yeah she's exactly the type of person who you're gonna hire and she's gonna try to start a union
00:40:42.920and start doing all this you know woke work within your company the moment she's in your company
00:40:48.440start harassing people start making other employees lives miserable so that they obey
00:40:53.560her rules and they show her the status that she's afforded she has signaled as loud as a person can
00:41:00.020conceivably signal i am the very definition of the problem and and because she was in environments
00:41:09.700where being a racial supremacist was just normal right like she sees nothing wrong or embarrassing
00:41:14.780about being a racial supremacist and so she has all of this out there right like if i had books
00:41:20.180like that about like being white or something like that like being a a fat misogynistic man
00:41:27.460right like fat white misogynistic man why that's hard you know like you'd be like wow
00:41:33.540dwelling in cell also note there wasn't part of her book that she's fat did she say fat yes
00:41:40.080yeah okay that's another thing right like it shows that she lacks self-control right you know
00:41:44.780so she's and don't be like some people are born this way the difference in metabolism in terms of
00:41:50.700calories that you burn on a daily basis is around 200 calories when you're talking about a two
00:41:57.560standard deviation difference in human populations super add up though because one pound is 3500
00:42:03.360calories roughly but like you can gain weight no no i'm not saying it can't add up but what i'm
00:42:09.100saying is is yes you might require a modicum more self-control one candy bar less a day or something
00:42:14.600like that but like the this idea and it is true that like there is a big genetic component to
00:42:22.820obesity the problem is is most of that genetic component is tied to your self-control abilities
00:42:29.380and your ability at self-discipline which is also partially hereditary and then if you have low on
00:42:35.380that which you can inherit but that that also you know demonstrates your ability to do a job or
00:42:41.600something like that right so she is in every way signaling that she's a problem now i actually do
00:42:47.900not think that black women when they take care of themselves likely deal with this problem as much
00:42:54.740if i saw a black woman who for example had a history of like doing maga stuff when when i
00:43:01.060looked her up or whatever or had written books against you know this culture actually i think
00:43:06.160this is why people like candace owens did so well is that she's attractive articulate yeah not
00:43:11.940ideologically captured i mean this was before her era and and people were like i love you you're
00:43:18.220great and and you stand out because you you tend to buck these trends it's kind of like how
00:43:23.340similarly tracing wood grains had described how being a conservative law student now it's just
00:43:29.860like actually a great career accelerator because there are so many more opportunities for you
00:43:35.600because most law students are progressive so it's one of those like it's actually a great
00:43:39.560arbitrage opportunity and you make a very good point okay so maybe things aren't as dire for
00:43:43.240black women in america as long as they're willing to like not be ideologically captured
00:43:47.160by the urban monoculture benefited from this for so long and they're unwilling to accept
00:43:52.580the the systemic advantages that their group has maybe start by just playing along and puppeting
00:43:58.120it and saying the shibboleths of that movement you start to believe it over time and then really
00:44:03.560identify deeply with it and i think after that point you know leaving it is leaving a cult too
00:44:08.480then then you're like your family might not want to talk with you anymore yeah other people like
00:44:12.680you know like your your entire circle will will see you as a traitor i mean who knows candace
00:44:17.900owens may have gone through a lot of that because i don't think she started out as explicitly in
00:44:21.140fact she started out as very much like i'm a victim of some form of discrimination wasn't it
00:44:26.220she had this whole thing about doxing people a whole docs website i can't remember the whole
00:44:30.280more. It might have been tied to Gamergate, if I remember, actually. No, it wasn't tied to
00:44:34.020Gamergate. It was tied to some discrimination she faced in her high school, and then she wanted to
00:44:38.000make it easier for other people, and it involved doxing them, and that's all I remember.
00:44:43.560But yeah, she didn't start off as a conservative icon. So I can also imagine that she personally
00:44:48.420experienced a lot of... Yeah, she started her career as a liberal critic of the Republican
00:44:52.080Party, but transitioned to the conservative commentary after a 2016 backlash against her
00:44:56.380failed startup social autopsy which is online bullies she rose to prominence by launching her
00:45:02.680red pill black youtube channel where she defended conservative talking points in 2017
00:45:07.640very interesting yeah so she was like an anti-bullying person first but but obviously
00:45:14.580when simona says i can't ideologically captured she of course means before massad poisoned her
00:45:19.640which by the way i'm referencing here now my new favorite conspiracy theory which is why is it
00:45:25.740that whenever somebody be it nick fuentes or candace owens or tucker carlson mentions that
00:45:33.640they are potentially critical of israel a few years later they have a bunch of crazy ideas
00:45:39.300that don't make any sense you know we get in candace owens i mean like actually crazy ideas
00:45:43.700like with candace owens it's like now what is it that charlie kirk is a time traveler who went to
00:45:49.480an x-men school like like actual signs of like somebody might be poisoning her or or nick fuentes
00:45:54.860who has been like epstein is cool or like tucker carlson who what was his recent thing that moscow
00:46:01.740is nicer than any city in the united states right like these are like actual crazy or that the u.s
00:46:07.580troops want to like grape people after they get an unconditional surrender which is particularly
00:46:12.220weird because if you grow up in the united states you know how important unconditional surrender was
00:46:16.540in terms of terms during world war ii of japan and germany and yet like everybody knows we didn't
00:46:22.140have a massive grape campaign there i love it that somebody followed up with this like no that's
00:46:26.460not true look the russians had a grape campaign in germany i'm like what does that have to do with
00:46:31.340anything i'm talking about we're talking about the united states which has had multiple countries
00:46:37.860do an unconditional surrender to it and never a grape campaign so why did he think we would have
00:46:43.540one in iran and somebody pointed out to me a fan pointed out to me and i actually think they might
00:46:47.260have a point here is it might be that he is so entrenched in muslim culture now that in muslim
00:46:53.960culture that's the one culture where it is actually normal to have massive rape campaigns
00:46:57.540after you conquer a territory if you want to see our slavery video it's also pretty normal in
00:47:03.660catholic culture but it's not officially condoned in catholic culture where it is condoned in
00:47:08.140muslim culture if you want to hear more about this go to our video on is slavery a good thing
00:47:13.560and it's something I want to dig into more because the more I sort of study the differences between
00:47:19.080different groups I realize that Catholic culture is dramatically culturally more similar in the
00:47:24.360way it's actually lived or changes the behavior patterns of its adherence to Muslim culture
00:47:29.260and I and I've said that before but I didn't realize how strong the effect was specifically
00:47:33.840here if you want to get on what I mean by this we don't have a single case a single case of a
00:47:41.300puritan quaker or backwoods tradition person having or been accused of having graped a native
00:47:48.740american this is also true for mormons and yet if you look at places where you had catholic
00:47:54.360settlements like the spanish conquistador settlements or louisiana or quebec grape of
00:48:00.200captives was actually pretty common and the question is it's like why like this is a weird
00:48:05.540different so we go into that in that video no that's the it's the it's the yeah it's even
00:48:11.040approved of in the quran so like ian hersey ali talks about this in her book pray p-r-e-y it's
00:48:17.180yeah so the the you know the one guys it's actually a more dangerous culture than you
00:48:24.640might think it is and giving it power might be more dangerous than you think it is and it may
00:48:28.640even be worse working with j-o-o's if we can deal with mitigating its influence in our countries
00:48:38.360people remain so confused as to but that could explain why he he thought that because he's just
00:48:44.020become so entrenched in like qatari culture gulf culture at this point which maybe but i actually
00:48:50.340i like my theory better which is that massad just poisons anyone who
00:49:08.100She recognizes that other people are noticing this trend she links to their work.
00:49:11.860But then she, near the end of her essay, writes,
00:49:15.180we are no longer heralded as the virtuosos of American culture.
00:49:20.860In fact, the values it earned us so much visibility in previous years.
00:49:24.340equality, progress, justice, democracy are now threats to a regime set on dominance and a
00:49:31.020revitalization of white supremacy and patriarchy. It's not far-fetched to assume that a Black
00:49:36.540feminist thinker isn't an ideal job candidate. I may even be a liability for any institution
00:49:42.540looking to state my new status quo. At first I was like, oh, she recognizes that her specialization
00:49:50.460in black feminist hip-hop culture may not be applicable in many practical jobs in a post-ai
00:49:56.640world is like only plumbers matter anymore or something but it's not that it's that no
00:50:03.540black feminist hip-hop specialists are too dangerous because they represent equality
00:50:10.720progress justice and democracy and what do you what do they mean democracy literally
00:50:18.260literally they're out there fighting no kings against a democratically elected president
00:50:24.820who won the majority of the popular vote like the the idea you're literally protesting against
00:50:31.360democracy when you're doing these protests and i wouldn't be surprised if this woman has written
00:50:37.860stuff that is against our elected leaders because she doesn't like when democracy doesn't end with
00:50:43.740her side winning right like yeah i know but i just i was like oh my god the irony but the irony of
00:50:49.580and this is something that the left got absolutely right they just didn't understand what they were
00:50:54.380saying when they say it which is that when you have lived a life of privilege not having that
00:51:00.240privilege can feel like victimization and and and so when she but she would try to be like yeah
00:51:06.780welcome to being in the patriarchy and not being favored anymore when she looks at the trump
00:51:10.600administration rebuilding America meritocracy, she sees only white supremacy because it is a
00:51:16.680world where people who look like her are not unfairly advantaged. And note here, what's really
00:51:23.940important is this unfair advantaging only happens, as Simone keeps pointing out, to Black women in
00:51:31.760the top 10% of education, 10% of success, 10% of all other Black women just get screwed by this.
00:51:38.700so basically she's not in addition to all of this a race traitor of the worst variety throwing her
00:51:46.160own people under the bus rather than admitting her systemic advantages and working to reconcile
00:51:51.400them and i i think that you know and again if you're like what systemic advantage are you talking
00:51:57.660about could a white man do what she did as a job and be expected to stay employed no well then that
00:52:05.680means she was hired because of her race and her sex, right? But fortunately, you know, people like
00:52:10.720her don't have kids. They're not part of the next generation. And this is something that is important
00:52:15.700to remember going forward as a conservative movement about American blacks. American blacks
00:52:21.720are culturally, the iteration of this culture that can survive, that's still having kids,
00:52:28.300is christian they are socially conservative they did not participate in this massive scam that's
00:52:37.060happened and they're not going to continue it was in future generations and so we don't need to
00:52:42.540punish the faction that's making it through at great odds may i add like we talk about black
00:52:49.500women dating how hard it is we talk about black women who get all of the negatives from the dei
00:52:54.360programs the assumption of unfair yeah genuine yeah like genuine discrimination genuine bias
00:53:01.220and this is why we should be so open with the ones who are willing to join our movement as opposed to
00:53:10.380stay in this mindset of it's us versus them we're not like progressives we're not actually racist
00:53:17.040right like progressives are actually racist in the truest sense of the word we accept anyone who
00:53:22.700comes to our movement come over to baby camp the water's fine it's yeah we need to stay that way
00:53:27.340right you know and i think that that that one and even you you actually see this in conservative
00:53:33.480movements when a lot of the time now you're gonna have a few people who are just like random racist
00:53:37.980or whatever but a lot of people go out of their way to attempt to be nice in in a way that you
00:53:42.860do not see another because they're afraid that they have this this view of them there's been a
00:53:47.460lot of videos of like trump rallies like black guy goes to trump rally versus black guy goes to
00:53:51.500Candace rally and like how he's treated at the two. Right. Usually they're treated better at the
00:53:55.960Trump rally. Right. Like because they're excited to have them as part of the movement. And so I
00:54:00.340think that this is something that we need to remember. Not all of them has participated in
00:54:04.700this, but the ones that did, you know, now they have permanent online branding around this and
00:54:11.180we cannot allow, you know, a bending of the knee around these sorts of things until capitulation
00:54:18.000from like realization of the horror of what she did the selfishness of the way that she but i don't
00:54:23.840see that how i mean that's that's just what's so like difficult to read about the end of this right
00:54:28.120and she's not gonna have kids she's not relevant to future generations by the way no if you're
00:54:32.420like well black people have watch our episode black americans actually have an astonishingly
00:54:37.420low fertility rate so one if you're talking about blacks in america they now have a lower fertility
00:54:42.640rate than whites in america this happened a while ago watch our video on it but if you're talking
00:54:46.280about blacks in america who are born in america most of that fertility rate actually comes from
00:54:50.180african immigrants they may have a fertility rate of around 1.35 so astonishing it's really
00:54:56.260basically going extinct and it's because they just don't have systems to support family formation
00:55:00.680anymore yeah they they did before honestly like by wokes yeah but like largely white wokes that's
00:55:08.880what's like the planned parenthood side of this on like so many other sides of this it's just they
00:55:13.500Again, this is a colonizers thing. Let's go into that, actually. So there's this pattern of European allied minorities in other colonies. So it's not just the Tutsi and Rwanda. Another good example is in Syria, the Alawites under the French mandate.
00:55:28.940So during the French mandate, minority communities, including Alawites, were heavily recruited into colonial military units, and they got status and a pathway into coercive institutions relative to many Sunni Arabs.
00:55:43.920And then post-independence, segments of the same minorities, which were now basically embedded in the army and security services, became associated with regime power, and they faced very, very intense identity coded backlash and pressure.
00:55:57.260And it's just really like it sucks to be them now. But also I can point out that this is not just something of like colonial minions. There's also these different like examples of religious and ideological favoritism.
00:56:12.600So, for example, if we're going to go to one of your favorites, under Oliver Cromwell's protectorate, Puritan and other super godly Protestants enjoyed political and cultural ascendancy.
00:56:24.680And then, of course, Anglicans and Catholics at the time were constrained.
00:56:28.720So when there was the 1660 restoration of the monarchy, many of the previously privileged Protestants lost power and faced a lot of legal and social reprisals.
00:56:41.100there wasn't like a genocide or anything but they definitely were on the back foot and that led many
00:56:46.760of them to flee to the colonies yeah to create a perfect society a city upon a hill right you know
00:56:52.160Cronwell was right but he ended up creating his utopia in America no he created a good forcing
00:56:57.100function but we may have to think sort of the the the seed crystal of American culture for backlash
01:06:44.700So there's that factor as well, like that they're okay with Israel.
01:06:48.700Oh my God, now we must hate them more.
01:06:50.280And then the additional H-1B visa anger in the United States, which you alluded to there
01:06:57.540with, with a lot of hiring favoritism and people, several people who are in touch with
01:07:03.360the base scam community, active, active, active contributors have talked about active
01:07:07.800discrimination that they firsthand have observed in various workplaces on the job markets
01:07:13.120themselves with clearly companies closing, like laying off jobs held by American citizens
01:07:20.980and hiring based on H-1B status, which you're supposed to be, you have to demonstrate that
01:07:28.540we can't find this talent in the U.S. They're not here. But what companies in practice are
01:07:32.960doing in the U.S. is laying off perfectly qualified people that they already had and
01:07:37.500then hiring H-1B employees who then, because they're so dependent on the job for their
01:07:42.880ability to stay in the united states can be exploited like it's it's not nice it's not a
01:07:48.420you know it's not like oh well at least the indians who are immigrating here are doing well
01:07:51.800like no they're also kind of being put in not great situations either yeah it's it's what this
01:07:57.560is an interesting thing in terms of the the the the anger that's had here because it's entirely
01:08:02.920created by the systems themselves and not necessarily by the indians right like if you
01:08:08.920were born in india like in india in india and you saw a system like this where you could get more
01:08:14.620money and live in a better country it's the logical choice it's still the logical choice
01:08:20.000it's still the logical choice and you can say well like well it's unfair for the native people
01:08:23.900and i'd be like yeah but i care about my kids more than yeah like that matters more like being
01:08:28.140able to send remittances remittances to your family matters a lot more so there are two more
01:08:32.340factions or sorry two more factors which i didn't know about which have led to the indian hate
01:08:36.460One is that a lot of internet has expanded throughout India, like the actual continent of India, and smartphone adoption has just accelerated rapidly, leading to a lot of far less privileged Indians in more remote areas of India getting access to the internet and smartphones, which you think is a good thing.
01:08:59.920but what are they jumping to? They're jumping to TikTok and YouTube and making content that
01:09:05.400doesn't reflect really well on the Indian people. And this explains so much of what had confused me
01:09:11.400when I went down this rabbit hole, maybe two years ago of like, what are the top viewed shorts
01:09:16.500on YouTube? And it was just like the dumbest of the dumb content that I could possibly like
01:09:22.260stupid pratfalls. And all of it was in various Indian dialects, like India content, like India
01:09:28.180country. I don't know if this is too offensive to say, but they started their society into a
01:09:32.900class system for a reason. Well, no, you could also say that their class system leads to, you
01:09:38.440know, the systemic discrimination that's, that's really hurting people's ability to get educated
01:09:43.120or whatever. But basically when, when you are in a either not great caste or just caste that has
01:09:51.560been subject to, you know, very low levels of resources and education, and then suddenly you're
01:09:57.380given access to like broadcast your interests and content on the internet and then there's also a
01:10:02.820lot of you so that it gets a lot of visibility suddenly the rest of the world is able to see
01:10:07.360this very the very muddy underskirts of india basically of like oh you want to like shave
01:10:12.060those legs like maybe you should help like fix this up but like now everyone's seeing it very
01:10:16.160visibly because of that dynamic and then on top of that that's a good point with the indian
01:10:20.780immigrants the most of them historically were ramen which was the upper class that was yeah
01:10:24.940Yeah, which is why when you and I first entered the H-1B discourse, what we were anchored to was the Indians that we grew up with, the Indians that we worked alongside in Silicon Valley.
01:10:35.180And it's all just like very articulate, smart, motivated, conscientious, cool, fun-based people.
01:10:40.420And we're like, oh, this is like, how is anyone not happy about this?
01:10:44.680Well, and I think many of the Indians in the U.S. do not realize that like other Indians may be, because they, you know, they grew up here.
01:10:51.260They didn't have to live alongside this.
01:10:52.860As a quote unquote model minority too.
01:10:54.500so like having a reputation like throughout the 90s of like oh no these like these are great
01:10:59.140people don't worry about them like they're fantastic you haven't had to deal with the
01:11:02.860other indians yeah so anyway that that explained that mystery of slop that i was seeing of like
01:11:08.160why is all of this in some indian dialect that i don't know and it's so the most hilarious thing
01:11:15.600about indian society for for people who are not aware is white supremacists like in the united
01:11:21.600states hate it yet it's literally a white supremacist society in that the the caste
01:11:26.880structure in india was largely created by arian invaders from the north with brahmins commenters
01:11:35.460have severely questioned that so i don't know like fact no brahmins are significantly more
01:11:39.540related to europeans well i mean you can literally see it in skin color like the the lower down in
01:11:44.320the caste system the darker the skin is and this is why when you go to india there's very serious
01:11:48.720like we'll say cultural issues with you know skin whitening substances etc because there is an
01:11:54.600association yet in genetics it's like it's it's super i just think it's super messed up but yeah
01:12:00.780so there's that and i would note if you want to attempt to deny this it is a denial of reality
01:12:08.220that is so extreme because you're not just denying the historic evidence that we have access to
01:12:15.500But the genetic evidence that we have access to, the modern visual genetic evidence that we have access to, there's like multiplicative ways that we are aware of this.
01:12:26.880And to be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not the case.
01:12:31.000It's probably about as silly as denying that the majority of the Native American gene pool came from East Asia in terms of the amount of evidence that we have that this is true.
01:12:42.660and then on top of all that a bunch of influencers in like the past five to seven years started going
01:12:51.200to india oh yeah to do like the the ceremony yeah like here's the indians flinging poo at each other
01:12:58.260which actually was super wholesome and it looked fun like it just looked like a funny japanese
01:13:02.260festival like here's the penis festival you know it's just like one of those you know it's like
01:13:05.820just a funny thing that one one isolated village does like everyone does that and by the way it
01:13:11.660looked really fun like you and I would have probably participated in that without the hazmat
01:13:16.840suit that guy put on come on I mean he got an infection anyway just like go in I would not
01:13:21.460have participated in that I'm gonna be honest Simone I would not have participated honestly
01:13:25.260like for me just just interacting with people so painful like if you just add poop into do you know
01:13:30.840how much poop ends up all over dude my do you want I I my hands are full I could literally show you
01:13:36.300how much poop is all over my clothing right now just because I was I guess you do have a lot all
01:13:40.260the diapers the chickens like i'm covered in poop all the time anyway so it's nothing to me
01:13:46.020it means nothing i you're you're the bane of poop being a mother i was born in the poop but so the
01:13:53.600the problem with these like like white western influencers who are going to india is they're
01:13:58.980going to slums they're going to really really bad places and again there are bad places in india
01:14:03.360come on i know i know but that's where you can get the good views is if you're filming that and
01:14:06.480not like really cool parts and like nepal or like near nepal or like you know hold on i'm gonna push
01:14:12.980back on you here india from what i've heard is pretty much all um like pretty much anywhere you
01:14:19.960go that's the impression we're given but apparently no no no no no no no no no no no no i mean even
01:14:25.780the wealthiest part like my friends who have been like wealthy indians from india say even if you go
01:14:32.760like two blocks from you know that giant tower that's like one guy's house like the well he
01:14:38.880basically built a skyscraper for himself oh yeah and yeah literally like i think like five blocks
01:14:45.680from that skyscraper is a slum where people like harvest trash for money oh that's like built up
01:14:52.200and you know well no but the point i'm making is india is a society that is not segregated
01:14:58.400geographically like other societies and europe is increasingly becoming like this in a way that i do
01:15:03.660not think is positive so with the united states where it's actually useful to have geographic
01:15:08.320sort of have slums bring back the slums yeah yeah whereas in india the slum and the rich part of the
01:15:16.480city is separated by do you have a pass key to get inside the building yeah which creates there's
01:15:23.200very few places you can go in india where you're not going to see you know beggars and starving
01:15:28.020people and and grossness yeah i can't deal i'm never i cannot go to india like i love
01:15:32.900i love so many things about indian culture and food and i cannot deal i could not i could not
01:15:39.920i could not i would i would lose my mind i would probably yeah i've known they've got a low
01:15:47.060fertility rate so they're not going to be around forever simone but yeah what how did we get on
01:15:52.680india but those are the reasons why it's it's it's trump's election it's trudeau it's modi
01:15:59.720and israel it's it is the widespread phone access and it is h1b visas in the united states
01:16:05.700and it is the influencers showing bad stuff well unflattering stuff and that is why the indian hate
01:16:13.420okay well i might see we have a second episode in this one of you just going off on indians
01:16:19.100no no that's that's just for the that's for the i hear you people who have problems with india
01:16:26.200people because okay message received oh my god guys wow simone simone when you present her with
01:16:35.540data is very open to it yeah well i'm autistic people are somehow surprised when they like make
01:16:43.380ironic comments and i just take them at face value what did you expect what am i doing for dinner
01:16:48.720tonight's mom so you can choose to take a take a roulette roll on whether or not you're going to
01:16:54.380get food poisoning from the fairly old curry that has been sitting in the fridge for two nights i'll
01:16:59.260get food poisoning for that i'm sorry well let's not let's not so then would you like to have
01:17:03.640gyoza lasagna or would you like to have some new curry with coconut milk like from the freezer
01:17:11.400you mean the the lasagna dumplings you read yeah lasagna dumplings oh lasagna dumplings
01:17:16.340so do you want one ramekin of lasagna dumpling plus edamame or would you like to have two
01:17:22.500ramekins because you're hungry one ramekin plus edamame hi you will have it it will be yours
01:17:29.360i love you yes i'm gonna i'm gonna go pick up beer so do you want anything