Based Camp - Yakub Is the LEAST Crazy Thing About The Nation Of Islam

00:00:00.000 hello simone you have been excited about this episode since i gave you the dirt because i was

00:00:04.800 like did you know because i didn't know this i looked at everyone's always joking about the

00:00:09.520 whole yakub story and nation of islam and what a bunch of silly beliefs and and then some i was 0.95

00:00:16.640 watching the video and it just dropped it and it was like and by the way it was founded by a white 0.97

00:00:19.760 guy and i was like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa the largest black supremacist

00:00:27.520 religion i think it's the largest on earth right now was founded by a white guy i was like i need 0.98

00:00:35.600 to drill in on that this is like fat positivity being founded by chubby chasers like by men no 0.98

00:00:42.640 no it's worse it was founded by a white guy as a joke to troll african americans so do we have reason to 0.93

00:00:51.920 believe it was actually a joke and not like not something else it was likely a way to make money 0.68

00:00:56.960 combined with a joke okay so like a scam okay wow wow okay oh let's get so excited for this

00:01:03.360 episode you have no idea yeah yeah oh and it gets crazier many of the ideas in it were actually lifted

00:01:11.440 from white nationalist conspiracy groups that would do mailers and you could like pay to have like

00:01:17.680 mail sent to you about the way the world really works you know how like when the internet started

00:01:21.760 you could like pay to get like the schematics for a time machine or something like that no

00:01:26.720 if you go to like the 1920s this was common for like religious stuff like like like yeah i'd say

00:01:33.120 like theosophical society stuff paranormal society stuff and a number of them were tied to white

00:01:39.200 nationalist organizations and they were the ones that he constructed his religion out of

00:01:44.240 oh no this is gonna get so crazy so wild let's dive in and simone didn't leave me at first and

00:01:52.480 she had to google the guy no no no no i was like no he is definitely there's no way this is possible

00:01:57.360 i was gonna be like well actually it's wrong keep in mind this is like the religion of like 0.51

00:02:05.280 malcolm x and like muhammad ali right like this is like major black people have followed this as

00:02:12.400 like a faith structure i think it's pretty big even in philadelphia oh yeah yeah and well it's

00:02:19.120 shrinking now it's basically falling apart probably good in light of this i

00:02:24.400 yeah okay so the founder wallace d ferrard also known as wally dodd ferrard wallace ferrard etc

00:02:31.280 he was a mysterious figure who appeared in detroit in 1930s selling skills door to door in black

00:02:37.440 neighborhoods claiming to be from the middle east variously mecca the east the tribe of shabazz

00:02:43.840 shabazz most contemporary police records fbi files newspaper investigations from the 1930s to 1960s

00:02:50.640 and scholarly research identify him as wallace dodd ford a white man of new zealand european and possibly

00:02:58.960 mixed british polynesian descent what 1891 to 1893 sources differ he was either born in new zealand

00:03:07.680 hawaii or portland oregon uh he has a criminal record in california under the name wally dodd ford

00:03:14.560 arrested multiple times in the 1920s for bootlegging and assault and a 1926 prison sentence in san quentin

00:03:21.040 for drug dealing he is described by both court records and ex-wives as caucasian so no if you're like

00:03:28.720 well maybe he was a little polynesian or a little something that like that we know from all of his

00:03:33.840 arrest records and when he was in prison he was described on all of the records during that more

00:03:39.200 racist period of history as caucasian and all of his exes called him caucasian no and we'll we'll learn

00:03:46.720 what he thought about black people in a second which wasn't a lot he was married multiple times two to

00:03:51.600 three wives some simultaneously and had children and used at least a dozen aliases he spoke as a pronounced

00:03:58.160 new zealand or british type accent okay so so how did this work i was like wait wait wait yeah this

00:04:03.600 is how did a white guy start a black supremacist religion okay so 1930s detroit farard began teaching

00:04:11.600 black residents that they were the original people the lost tribe of shabazz stolen from asia not africa 0.95

00:04:18.560 and that white people were devils created by an evil scientist named yakub he claimed to be a prophet sent 0.82

00:04:24.160 by allah and eventually declared himself god in person his teaching mixed elements of garveyism 0.95

00:04:31.280 freemasonry jehovah's witnesses islam very loosely and science fiction like racial mythology

00:04:39.600 thousands of followers very quickly in the middle of the great depression elijah pool later elijah

00:04:44.560 muhammad became his most devoted disciple and was named supreme minister farred disappeared

00:04:50.640 completely in 1934 probably fled detroit after a human sacrifice scandal involving one of his

00:04:56.240 followers in intense police scrutiny the noi teaches that he quote-unquote departed or was

00:05:02.320 allah who completed his mission elijah muhammad then took over and built the organization into what it

00:05:08.400 became note that the nation of islam officially denies that he is white today they hold that master 1.00

00:05:15.360 fraud muhammad was a quote-unquote black man born in mecca and that claims that he was

00:05:21.440 counter filerobio something or fbi files however virtually all non-noi the nation of islam historians

00:05:29.520 would say as well as carl evans messenger fbi files that have been declassified and the 1970s detroit

00:05:36.320 police records conclude that he was white and the same man as wallace dodd ford oh boy okay so i'm not

00:05:43.440 crazy because i did a deep dive on the nation of islam like beliefs and i thought he was he was 0.85

00:05:49.440 black but then of course that's what i would have been told if i was just looking into the beliefs

00:05:52.560 so okay this is maybe why a lot of people who like found the other crazy stuff didn't find this yeah

00:05:57.920 because if you're digging into it from their own sources which is crazy enough yeah yeah they're not

00:06:03.360 going to tell you you're like oh i want to learn more of this uh this yakub story you're not gonna

00:06:07.600 we're gonna go into where that story came from and everything okay all right so of course you know 0.95

00:06:14.000 the first thing i'm like is wait wait wait why did a white guy start a black supremacist religion

00:06:19.680 right so there's three that are hypothesized okay okay four just pure grift con man hustle 0.89

00:06:30.240 he had a long history of scams bootlegging and living off of women in early 1930s detroit was full 0.98

00:06:35.760 of unemployed black migrants from the south who were desperate for hope and identity

00:06:40.720 by posing as the exotic eastern prophet he gained money followers paid dues and brought products he

00:06:46.800 sold free housing and sexual access to multiple women in the group several early members later said

00:06:52.240 he had a harem-like arrangement this fits the pattern of dozens of cult leaders in american history

00:06:58.400 two influence from earlier occult and more society teachers he most certainly knew noble drew

00:07:04.720 ali the founder of the moorish science temple and may have been a member for a while and we're

00:07:09.280 going to go into these other religions that he drew from because they're equally fascinating

00:07:13.200 he also borrowed heavily from an occult mail order group called the royal fraternity of master

00:07:19.600 metaphysicians and from white theosophical writings about lost tribes atlantis and yakub style

00:07:26.160 eugenic stories that were floating around in the 1920s he simply reversed the racial hierarchy

00:07:30.960 instead of white people being superior black people were the original gods and white people were 0.99

00:07:35.600 devils this was new and electrifying to his audience and this is the more interesting one here okay 0.96

00:07:43.600 personal revenge or a psychological motive some researchers especially carl evans in the messenger

00:07:49.680 speculate that he may have had mixed race ancestry himself and a deep resentment towards both white and

00:07:55.440 black communities however what i find most interesting is one of his ex-wives so remember the fbi released

00:08:01.120 all the files they had on him well they have interviews one of his ex-wives no she didn't think

00:08:05.440 this would make her famous she didn't know anything that was going to come of this she was just talking

00:08:09.760 to the fbi right in in private right like and this was released like after she's dead right so again

00:08:16.160 this isn't like somebody trained to grift off of this is it just somebody in a room with the fbi okay 0.94

00:08:20.640 said that he hated quote unquote in words i'm not going to say it called them stupid and yet made his 0.96

00:08:28.400 living off of them it's possible that the whole thing started as some elaborate troll or revenge 0.79

00:08:33.680 fantasy that got out of hand which very interesting here and i i think that this is the most plausible

00:08:39.360 he likely made his money trolling this community if you look at some of the other things that he sold

00:08:43.920 they were like blatant scams and he seemed to get off off of blatantly scamming a community he saw as

00:08:50.320 inferior to himself and really liked sleeping with and living off of multiple women off of

00:08:55.600 simultaneously he had a history of doing this yes it would just be his thing it's like how he related

00:09:00.080 to the world yeah it was just his thing right so that is appears to what happened so for more

00:09:05.040 information on this in 1957 the fbi interviewed hazel barton ford farb's common-law wife around 1919 to 1924 0.89

00:09:13.120 in los angeles who provided key insights into his private character she described him as a white new

00:09:19.120 zealander caucasian features swarthy complexion who operated a restaurant and had a criminal history

00:09:24.960 under the aliases of fred dodd more pointedly she revealed far's disdain for black people he reportedly 1.00

00:09:30.800 called them stupid and ignorant viewing them as easy marks for exploitation rather than equals despite 1.00

00:09:36.480 this he made his living off of black communities first as a sailman then through the nation of islam 1.00

00:09:41.760 nation of islam's dues and product sales sales skills and lessons which i just find that really

00:09:49.280 really fascinating although i mean i guess when i think about it so many cult leaders were inherently

00:09:57.280 exploitative and dismissive toward their quote-unquote adherence so maybe this isn't so crazy like this is

00:10:02.880 what i should expect well you do see that right like you know and then they might begin to believe it

00:10:08.320 after a while like i mean like what joseph smith did with all of his early adherents who were men

00:10:12.880 and their wives right he'd like send them off to do something and they'd be like oh my the way i'm 0.90

00:10:17.520 taking the way you know yeah so the we won't get too hard into the the moron stuff i decided to 0.57

00:10:25.040 double check this just to make sure we're not you know saying anything that's not accurate here so

00:10:28.560 joseph smith introduced the practice of plural marriages starting in the 1830s claiming it was a

00:10:33.440 divine revelation he had approximately 30 to 35 plural wives by the time of his death many of

00:10:38.640 these ceilings kept secret from even his wife emma and about 11 to 14 of these women were legally

00:10:46.560 married to other men at the time out of the 14 documented polyandrous ceilings at least 10 involved

00:10:53.440 husbands who were not on missions at the time but three to four of these instances had timing unclear

00:11:00.240 and the basically the husbands may have been away on something like a mission i i think i'm probably

00:11:04.320 easier like l ron hubbard clearly did not believe it to start i mean it's structured like a science

00:11:10.640 fiction story he was a science fiction author he joked about starting cults to make money before that

00:11:16.480 i do think he believed it by the time he died you have you have listen well i mean my point with the

00:11:20.800 lds church is i actually think what the lds church eventually became was freaking amazing but i do think

00:11:25.120 that there's something about being an initial leader of a religious movement that i mean it if

00:11:30.640 you're more exploitative there there seems to be a correlation at least between exploitative behavior

00:11:36.800 well and and i think it stopped when he started to believe he was god or one of god's messengers

00:11:41.920 we're not going to go that deep into to their philosophy but let's let's talk about the other

00:11:45.200 weird thing here why did he disappear like that seems weird you know you're running a successful grift

00:11:50.960 it seems like you had a pretty good arrangement going with this whole thing why did he just

00:11:55.280 disappear out of nowhere in 1934 just as things were taking off right well we have a clearer answer

00:12:02.080 to that one in november 1932 one of his followers robert camille harris carried out a quote-unquote

00:12:09.360 human sacrifice to quote-unquote bring himself closer to allah killing his roommate on an altar the

00:12:14.800 police investigation put massive heat on fraud's temple fraud was arrested fingerprinted in order to

00:12:20.320 leave detroit he came back secretly anyway got arrested again in 1933 and 1934 in his last known

00:12:27.440 police interview chicago may 1933 then detroit 1934 he promised the police that he would disband the

00:12:34.720 organization and leave forever if they let him go after being released in mid-1934 he vanished

00:12:40.560 completely no confirmed sighting after that so there's two main theories but let's just get in his head

00:12:45.520 here okay so yeah you're a guy in your organization does a human sacrifice not great you have started

00:12:52.720 this as an intentional grift on people it's been a little hot time to skip town but you're like i have

00:12:59.360 such a good thing going there i should probably go back see what i can do etc you go back you get caught

00:13:05.280 again almost immediately and the police basically say we're detaining you indefinitely in in association

00:13:12.720 with that murder or disband the organization and get out of town you try to disband the organization

00:13:18.560 everyone's like yeah i don't think so and even if you're going to why not just get out of town before

00:13:23.040 disbanding maybe have few people still send you money here and there right yeah no true true so he

00:13:28.960 disappears from the record after that point there's there's two theories one is that he just

00:13:33.920 disappeared left right there's been some unconfirmed reports that placed a wally ford in california or

00:13:39.440 new zealand decades later so maybe he lives quietly somewhere i think that that's a lot less likely

00:13:46.080 because he doesn't seem like the type of person who as his religion got larger and larger would have

00:13:51.040 been able to not come back as the founder oh that's a good point yeah yeah like if it just disbanded i

00:13:56.960 could imagine him changing identities again and again forever and just grifting from one thing to

00:14:01.840 the next but you're right this got big yeah that he was killed by rivals inside the movement elijah

00:14:08.960 muhammad who took over after him later hinted that he had quote-unquote departed on mother plane

00:14:15.200 ufo theology and also that quote-unquote hypocrites may have murdered him so um when the guy who takes

00:14:22.080 over after him is like well you know some people in our movement may have murdered him i don't know

00:14:26.320 one way or the other i think that is probably more likely what happened but anyway they they say that

00:14:32.640 he left on a ufo or was a law and left so let's get to some of these other religions and movements

00:14:38.080 that inspired it right gravyism have you heard of this are they referring to the sauce no it was

00:14:45.600 inspired by somebody named marcus gravy no and his universal in improvement association i'm not

00:14:52.880 even going to say that like sanitized version of that word i don't want you know i can see you

00:14:56.320 worshipping a sauce-based religion that you're all demonetization it's not demonetization what's

00:15:00.400 getting the channel banned saga so i'm just going to be very safe and what i'm talking about here even

00:15:05.040 though this is spicy as heck because i've just given up doing that we had a little arc where i was going

00:15:08.800 to pretend to be a good boy i'm not going to pretend to be a good boy no no there's just too many interesting

00:15:14.800 ideas and things going on in the world yeah people will find me again if youtube decides to be very

00:15:21.200 strict with me but i i hope it doesn't come to that but anyway so the key ideas of gravyism were

00:15:27.120 that black people should be proud of their race and african heritage the back to africa movement gravy

00:15:31.680 tried to buy ships and resettle black africans in liberia black economic self-reliance quote unquote

00:15:37.600 by black black nationalism and separatism he argued for no integration with whites at its peak the

00:15:44.240 unia had millions of members and was one of the largest black organizations in history

00:15:49.280 fard borrowed a lot from gravy racial pride separatism economic independence even the red

00:15:54.240 black green flag colors the big difference is gravy was a christian who wanted to go back to africa

00:16:00.480 while fraud taught that black people came from asia and that islam was the original religion 0.91

00:16:05.760 and that whites were literal devils the next place he drew information was the moorish science temple

00:16:12.800 which was active between 1909 and 1929 so the real name timothy drew 1886 to 1929 was born in north 0.91

00:16:22.080 carolina he claimed to be a prophet who had been initiated in egypt and founded the first mass

00:16:28.640 quote-unquote islamic movement for black americans the moorish science temple of america msta in newark

00:16:34.880 new jersey in 1913 then moved his headquarters to chicago so it's really interesting is this was the first

00:16:40.960 major black islamic organization in the united states and this is another large early one was

00:16:46.400 this other one what you'll learn and we'll go over here later is they basically have very little to

00:16:51.840 almost nothing islamic about them uh they are not derivations of islamic theology they took islam

00:17:00.160 people from that period i mean it's the 1920s you don't have the internet or something yes it's sort of

00:17:04.240 foreign it's like oh this is from a region where like darker skin color people live and is one of

00:17:11.920 old religions you know yeah yeah yeah the moors etc blah blah blah yeah yeah so it's basically like

00:17:18.160 a name that they could use that prescribed their religion was like ancient associations and

00:17:23.920 potentially black associations but none of them really seemed to know much about what islam was

00:17:28.720 actually about all right so it was in the moorish temple black americans were not in words but they

00:17:35.280 were asiatics more specifically moors or moorish americans descendants from moabites or canaanites

00:17:41.520 their true religion was islam but an americanized version with jesus and buddha as prophets they should 0.98

00:17:48.720 drop their slave names and add l or bay exactly what the nation of islam also did white people stole 0.99

00:17:55.920 their history and nationality reclaiming moorish identities freeze them the red wait would it be

00:18:00.800 like simone bay malcolm l i think it might be like l malcolm l simone or bay bay simone oh it'd be

00:18:09.120 l malcolm i think in bay simone basement might even be where the term like bay hey bay you know like

00:18:14.720 wonder oh my gosh all each other bay like hey bay what up like that that might be where this comes from

00:18:21.600 it is not so first the l or bay while it was very common in the moorish temple when the nation of islam

00:18:30.240 members started doing this while they did this rarely the more common thing with noi members was to

00:18:36.560 replace their surnames with an x to symbolize the unknown surnames in their family history lost to

00:18:43.440 africa as for the modern use of the term bay the term bay emerged in african american vernacular

00:18:51.520 in the early 2000s as a shortened form of baby or babe used as a term of endearment for romantic

00:18:57.440 partners or close friends or even platonically among women it has no connection that we know of

00:19:04.480 to either the moorish temple or the nation of islam so just a convergent evolution the red fez was the 0.85

00:19:12.720 crescent and the five-pointed star the circle seven symbol if you've seen that the fez like a black 1.00

00:19:18.000 person during a fez yeah that that comes from this um oh my god okay so how was he exposed to them

00:19:24.640 fard lived in chicago the moorish science capital in the 1920s and early 1930s several of fard's

00:19:30.320 earliest followers in detroit including elijah muhammad's own brother had previously been members

00:19:35.200 of the moorish science temple when police arrested ford in 1932 one of the charges was that he was

00:19:41.520 encouraging former moorish science members to leave drew ali's movement and to join him after drew ali

00:19:49.200 died in 1929 the msta fractured into many rival fractions far to simply started his own splinter

00:19:56.640 group changed moorish to asiatic tribe of shabazz and replaced the circle seven quran with his own 0.66

00:20:03.840 two short books secret ritual of the nation of islam and teaching for the lost found nation of islam 0.56

00:20:12.960 in a mathematical way and declared himself god instead of just a prophet i i really like the the

00:20:18.960 names of those books by the way teaching for the lost found nation of islam in a mathematical way

00:20:24.000 all right it's more easy reads both of these books as well right great yes oh my now here is where

00:20:32.240 it gets really crazy okay the occult mail order sources and the royal fraternity of the master of

00:20:40.880 metaphysicians in the 1920s and the siosophical in russian lore so far as most distinctive teachings

00:20:48.960 and bizarre doctrines did not come from as long a gravy they came almost verbatim from white occult groups

00:20:56.640 that were mailing lessons to anyone who wanted to spend a few dollars i mean the only thing better

00:21:03.040 than a cult is mail order a cult you know it's all the fun of a cult none of the awkwardness of being

00:21:08.560 with people in person you know but by the way before i go further what are your thoughts so far

00:21:14.480 loving every bit of this i'm so disappointed though like i would much rather have this trend

00:21:19.920 having taken place after black panther got big and like i what i want it's a whole bunch of people

00:21:27.760 to like try to build scams about wakanda being real but then for people to yes and it to the point of it

00:21:33.280 actually being real because i want this like black exceptionalism tech world i think it would be so

00:21:38.800 freaking cool and i'm just really mad that that's not what happened because i want wakanda to be real i

00:21:44.560 want wakanda forever and i love their beautiful outfits and tech and it's very annoying so that's

00:21:50.080 my only that's what keeps occurring to me now i'm just angry about that yeah i hear you i just i find

00:21:57.120 it so wild that i have watched so many videos about the yakub story i have never heard about all of this

00:22:03.840 nonsense well yeah and i just i think it's one of those you know that scientific study where they're

00:22:08.160 like you know count how many times they're bouncing the basketball and then the the subjects are watching

00:22:13.280 it in a video and they totally miss there's a gorilla walking by in the background yeah the

00:22:18.000 thing is with the nation of islam like yakub and like white people were created in this terrible 1.00

00:22:23.280 experiment blah blah blah something something well hold on you're just so distracted watching that

00:22:28.240 that they don't realize the gorilla walking in the background of like and this was all written by a 0.98

00:22:32.800 white guy yeah the gorilla walking in the background that it was a white con artist who hated black 0.98

00:22:38.800 people yes did you see the white colon artist walking in the back what no what wait what anyway 0.97

00:22:45.120 to continue here the royal fraternity of the master of metaphysicians based in new york and later moved

00:22:51.040 to a mansion they called peace haven in new jersey in the 1930s they ran full page ads in magazines

00:22:57.280 offering quote-unquote ancient wisdom for one dollar their teachings included the quote-unquote mother plane

00:23:04.560 remember how the other guy the guy after him who ran it talked about the mother plane yeah so the

00:23:08.960 mother plane came directly from this organization okay or the quote-unquote great wheel in the sekai

00:23:15.520 a great spaceship that circles the earth okay they also also nice and sphere remember yakub the

00:23:22.080 scientist from 6 000 years ago okay these guys also had an evil scientist from 6 000 years ago who created

00:23:29.280 the white race on an island of patamos even though selective breeding and grafting compared to yakubo 0.95

00:23:36.480 so they that story was literally lifted from this organization god forbid people create their own

00:23:42.160 stories and get a little creative yeah that the original people lived 76 trillion years ago on the moon

00:23:50.320 the fbi files and the chicago detectives in the 1950s interviewed former members of this group who

00:23:55.680 recognized entire paragraphs of farad's secret lessons as plagiarized from the master metaphysician

00:24:01.920 booklets so he just took some of the booklets and literally just plagiarized them i mean that's what

00:24:08.240 a conard would do he's like oh i need some crazy nonsense he might have read one of these thought it

00:24:12.720 was yeah i'm a conard it's not a writer don't ask me to do these things i think it's more that he might 1.00

00:24:18.560 have just thought it was ridiculous and stupid and remember that he looked down on black people so he's 1.00

00:24:23.840 like oh they'll eat this right up uniquely ridiculous and stupid oh boy like let's just 1.00

00:24:31.280 like take it and add it to this right and the the you know 6 000 years ago science on an island you know 0.99

00:24:40.320 breeding the white race or whatever right could he have seen that and be like oh that would probably 0.72

00:24:45.840 work well for some like you know black communities or something if i'm trying to explain why white people 0.87

00:24:51.040 are so bad you know yeah i'll just do that right like and he took yakub from a different organization

00:24:55.920 we'll talk about where he got them from okay 1920s theosophy rosecution and ancient astronaut style

00:25:02.000 books so these books were popular in the occult world at the time you had the secret doctrine by

00:25:06.720 heather bolansky that's the one who we talked about who the the tiny mustache man who we're not going to

00:25:12.800 talk about on this channel shall not be named his army marched under their symbol their pagan symbol

00:25:19.840 the theosophical society and and they were also known to have a lot of ties to those sorts of groups

00:25:24.960 isis unveiled god man the world made flesh by george w carley a bizarre biblical alchemical

00:25:32.080 interpretations that show up in the nation of islam as quote-unquote actual facts and 120 degrees

00:25:38.800 works by a white supremacist occultist named jame churchworld mu lamari books and william dudley

00:25:47.120 pedley silver shirts f-word which i'm not going to say because i don't want to get the video flagged

00:25:52.800 uh who wrote about quote-unquote wheel-shaped space crap and yakub-like stories so this this was like

00:26:00.320 the silver shirts were related to like the brown and black shirts i just don't use the f-word anymore

00:26:04.080 because i don't want to get you know anyone triggered right far to simply took these white

00:26:07.920 esoteric teachings and reverse the races and then packaged them as quote-unquote supreme wisdom now

00:26:14.480 a fun one here is is okay how how far were these groups you know so we'll talk about the theosophical

00:26:19.440 society yeah though blavowski wasn't explicitly a nazi she predated them her quote-unquote root races 1.00

00:26:28.240 theory posited aryan as the fifth most advanced race superior to quote-unquote inferior races like

00:26:35.120 semites and africans fifth i don't know fifth is kind of like a well i think most of those races are

00:26:41.920 ones that like we don't know of is actually existing on earth i think they're like she called them

00:26:48.000 specifically semites in africa semi-animal so you can see why the the the h guy thought she was a 0.65

00:26:54.960 a real swell person a swell gal and this inspired german area safi or occult arianism and anyway you

00:27:05.040 what what's funny about this is if you hear the ideology of the nation of islam you've got an 0.88

00:27:11.520 extreme level of anti-semitism within it you've got an extreme level of sort of in-group supremacy

00:27:16.800 like we are the best people on earth the you know and we need to like purify our genetic line

00:27:22.960 and then you look at little mustache man ideology and you're like these two ideologies look remarkably

00:27:30.480 similar was it convergent evolution and it's nope they plagiarized the same text um gracious they

00:27:38.560 they they literally have anti-semitism woven into them for the same underlying reason from the text

00:27:45.440 they both descend from which again is just so fascinating it is it is genuinely fascinating

00:27:52.080 anyway so to dig into some of these other ones because i was like wait wait wait i want to dig

00:27:57.600 into some of these other belief systems that he was plagiarizing i want to hear about occult systems

00:28:03.680 kicking around in the 1920s right so we've got the royal fraternity of master metaphysicians founded in

00:28:10.160 early 1930s by james bernard chauffeur a self-proclaimed metaphysician this was a shirt-lived cult

00:28:17.520 that sold teachings via mail and in-person seminars it gained notoriety in 1939 for adopting a baby

00:28:26.080 gene gaunt aka baby gene and attempting to raise her as immortal though through mind over matter

00:28:32.720 techniques no doctors no negativity just positive thinking to conquer death no i should mention her

00:28:39.920 in the interview i'm doing with steven molyneux because that sounds like his parenting style

00:28:43.200 i'm gonna ask an ai what happened to her i hope she's okay she was returning to her birth parents

00:28:50.000 about a year after about a year was the cult and she grew up to live a private normal life okay

00:28:57.600 the cult formerly known as the royal brotherhood of mother physicians intended to raise her as an

00:29:01.120 immortal being freed from death and disease at their peace haven former vanderbilt estate on long

00:29:06.400 island the experiment ended in 1940 when her mother requested her back it was later reported shortly

00:29:12.240 after returning to home gene happily ate prunes a food for britain on the cult's strict eternity diet

00:29:19.360 the cult itself collapsed soon after schaefer faced lawsuits and charges of grand larceny he was

00:29:25.200 convicted and served five years in sing sing prison following the lawsuits and legal issues the rfm declared

00:29:30.400 bankruptcy and the peace haven property was foreclosed and auctioned off in 1941 after his release

00:29:36.080 chauffeur opened an education center but never regained his former successor wells

00:29:40.160 in 1955 john bernard chauffeur and his wife committed unaliving bicarbon monoxide poisoning leaving a note

00:29:46.800 was instructions for their daughter to continue his work as for gene grunter she she went on to live a 0.99

00:29:52.880 life away from the public eye in 2002 reports indicated she was alive and well hey maybe that that long

00:29:59.760 living stuff worked despite the prunes very dare she forbidden so they were a mishmash a theological goulash

00:30:10.640 of russianism secret ancient wisdoms christian science healing through faith and new thought

00:30:17.440 mind creates reality the core idea of them where the human mind could overcome all physical limits

00:30:22.400 including aging and death they taught that negative thoughts cause illness and that positive metaphysics

00:30:27.600 could achieve eternal use ah yes once again the power of wishy thinking strikes this is the group

00:30:33.680 where the concept of mother planes or great wheels in the sky came from we talked about them a little

00:30:37.360 before but i wanted to dive in a bit more because maybe in the future when things die we can just say

00:30:42.240 that they went to the great and they're also where the group of the evil scientists creating the

00:30:47.920 inferior white people like white people came from the yakubus the precursor to the kubus they came up with 0.97

00:30:52.960 that and they you know fell apart i i wonder what they think if they knew that a version of their

00:30:57.040 thing was still like really big but it was like a black supremacist organization then you have james

00:31:04.480 torchwood's mu theories a british american engineer popularized mu in the books the lost continent of mu

00:31:11.200 and sold publishers and ads as quote-unquote ancient secrets mu was a pacific lost continent of a

00:31:17.280 motherland men home to the nakal civilization 50 000 years ago an advanced and peaceful civilization 0.99

00:31:24.560 with monotheism and shared symbols eg crosses influencing egypt india and the maya destroyed

00:31:30.720 by cataclysm survival exceeded global cultures dismissed evolution for creationism via ancient

00:31:36.240 tablets he claimed to have decoded in india he he believed in like superior and inferior races this guy

00:31:42.960 he thought the arians were from you for example so this is what i'm saying like like these were actual

00:31:47.360 like white nationalist ideologies that this was based on then we have we got the the tiny mustache

00:31:53.440 man ideology this ideology the other ideology we've got william dudley hell and the silver shirts so

00:32:00.080 pell 1890s to 1965 a hollywood screenwriter turned mystic founded a fascist group called the silver shirts

00:32:09.840 which ended christian mysticism and spiritualism he claimed out of body experiences with occultism and

00:32:15.680 politics soul craft or afterlife teaching real ufos in ancient races similar to theosophy so these

00:32:23.600 wheels why is everyone so excited about wheels and a a christian militia movement against what they call

00:32:30.480 jewish bolshevism and he was extremely plow teeny mustache man okay so let's go deeper on yakub

00:32:38.240 all right would you like to know that you get a reminder on the yakub story refresh me yes all right

00:32:46.320 yakub born in mecca with an unusually large head symbolizing his intellect ah yes discovered magnetic

00:32:52.160 laws of attraction and repulsion while playing with steel exiled to the island of patamos referencing

00:32:58.320 the biblical book of revelation with 59 999 of his followers for causing unrest he conducted a 600

00:33:06.880 year eugenics experiment selectively breeding lighter skinned individuals through grafting 0.62

00:33:11.680 killing of darker babies to produce a pale blue-eyed race inherently prone to wickedness 1.00

00:33:16.400 and i kid you not this is what he said was their main thing trichonology or deception yes white 0.83

00:33:24.720 people will perform trichonology on them which they got from you know this horrible way that they were

00:33:29.120 created and um this this race was allowed to rule for 6 000 years ending in 1914 after which black 0.55

00:33:38.320 people would reclaim dominance over often via apocalyptic events like the mother plane or the ufo

00:33:44.720 destroying whites now what's another interesting thing here is that some of the whites after this 0.88

00:33:49.200 eugenics experiment tried to go back to being black and like tried to like regain their like like undo the 0.96

00:33:55.760 eugenics experiment okay but they didn't have like a good template for doing this and this is where

00:34:00.240 the nation of islam believes that monkeys and apes come from is that they're literally white people

00:34:05.520 that that tried to become black again oh he presented okay i'm not gonna say anything go ahead he

00:34:15.120 presented this in his doctrinal pamphlet lost found muslim lessons number two a q a style text to early

00:34:22.160 converts as part of a series of secret lessons far to claim divine revelation for the story positioning

00:34:27.200 himself as allah incarnate and the myth as supreme wisdom to awaken black americans to their divine

00:34:33.760 origins in white oppression elijah muhammad farid's successor who led the noi or nation of islam for

00:34:40.400 about 1935 until his death in 1975 expounded and popularized it in books like the message to

00:34:46.800 the black man in america 1965 where entire chapters detail yakub's process as a theodossi

00:34:54.480 or explanation for evil justifying racial inequality as a temporary divine plan a later nation of islam 0.93

00:35:01.680 leaders like illawize frockman have defended it as a literal truth so this isn't something that they

00:35:07.040 like kind of believe it is like literal religious truth for them sometimes citing modern genetics or

00:35:12.960 archaeology e.g the olmec heads as evidence for ancient black scientists moorish science temple

00:35:18.880 of america mst founded by noble drew ali timothy drew in 1913 this was fard's most direct predecessor

00:35:27.600 ali's teachings reference yakubites as a figure named yakub a west african moor who allegedly founded

00:35:35.200 ancient civilizations with large-headed scientific geniuses evidenced by mesoamerican olmec heads

00:35:42.800 fard possibly with an mst member of chicago adapted this into a more militant anti-white narrative

00:35:49.520 shifting yakub from hero to villain very interesting wait what i want to know how he was the hero to

00:35:56.640 begin with okay so i apparently was supposed to sort of like represent ancient wisdom in in early stuff uh

00:36:04.480 and it was supposed to be linked to like sophisticated ancient black societies

00:36:10.960 and and what they had lost and then he later wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't

00:36:17.040 wouldn't the doctor of the nation of islam went sort of was a crazier explanation all right so 0.66

00:36:22.640 what makes this different and similar to mainstream islam because i was interested in that as well right

00:36:29.440 i mean i don't know what where is the where is their shared ideology i think it's the more important

00:36:34.880 question yeah so they refer to god as allah okay and they refer to their places of worship as mosques

00:36:41.200 although originally they were called temples it appears that he didn't know what muslims called their

00:36:45.040 places of worship at first and then changed it to mosques when he learned yeah they would also use

00:36:49.360 greetings like as salam alakku and members performed from a fair prayer salat though it's modified and

00:36:58.160 not always a standard five daily prayers a diet and lifestyle rules they prohibit pork alcohol and drugs

00:37:04.880 emphasis on clean living and modest dress women cover head and veils family values which align 1.00

00:37:11.120 with halal principles and islamic moral codes

00:37:16.720 they have a community strong focus strong emphasis on self-reliance and economic empowerment so

00:37:21.520 basically they dress kind of like muslims and use a few muslim words right i mean that's better than them 1.00

00:37:27.440 like just going like durka durka and thinking that they're doing proper prayers or something but

00:37:33.760 yeah so what was interesting is pretty much any famous person that you've heard of that was ever

00:37:39.600 in the nation of islam ended up converting to become just an actual sunni muslim and the nation 0.98

00:37:46.560 of islam is more like you join it because you like want to find yourself in like black identity it sounds 0.51

00:37:51.760 like and then you do more research and you're like oh and you're like that that was a mistake that was a

00:37:57.520 mistake yeah uh yeah the india islam where he had something for it yeah so let's talk about how 0.98

00:38:03.680 they're different from mainstream muslims theology of god and prophethood the nation of islam teaches 0.60

00:38:08.240 that their founder wallace fard muhammad was god in human form and that elijah muhammad was

00:38:12.960 his prophet or messenger this violates islam's core principle um racial mythology their doctrine 0.97

00:38:19.600 includes the story of yakub which you guys know already that is obviously not in islam their

00:38:24.880 cosmology and eschatology the idea of a mother plane like a ufo spaceship is obviously not in

00:38:32.000 islam and their practices and structures they do not adhere to anything like the five pillars of islam 1.00

00:38:37.840 so it appears they just chose it because they thought it sounded cool and nobody knew enough

00:38:42.080 about islam to really challenge them that's really the gist of it so who was in the movement that you've 0.63

00:38:48.000 heard of malcolm x joined while in prison in the 1950s he left in 1964 converting to sunni islam and

00:38:56.720 he he actually had disputes with elijah muhammad who's the guy good for him all right yeah um

00:39:02.000 hamad ali born cassius clay joined in the 1960s publicly announcing affiliation in 1964 but he converted

00:39:09.840 to sunni islam karim abjool jabbar briefly associated with the movement in the 1970s before converting to

00:39:15.840 sunni islam and then other people who have had affiliations are ice cube and snoop dog no snoop 0.78

00:39:23.200 saying so and then amiri baracki dropped it they all dropped it right yeah they've all dropped it to my

00:39:30.320 understanding jay-z apparently was connected through through the group five percent nation which they 0.99

00:39:37.120 influenced now how many members did they have because we were going to talk about that they

00:39:41.120 at peak they're around 30 000 to 100 000 members this was in the 1960s under elijah muhammad although

00:39:47.440 some sources claiming up to a quarter million members however if you're looking at recent estimates

00:39:54.240 you're getting around 50 000 members as of 2007 that's the most recent number we have access to so

00:39:59.920 fewer than the subscribers of based camp yes fewer than the subscriber count of based camp and in

00:40:06.240 the uk you have around 2000 latinos make up over 20 of the us membership and latinos all right guys go 0.96

00:40:16.080 for it i mean and they had a period of growth from the 1950s to the 1960s and then they had a surge in

00:40:23.520 the 1980s and late 1990s this was due to targeting prisons campuses and latino slash native communities 1.00

00:40:32.480 the decline factors the major split in 1975 after elijah muhammad's death his son wallace d muhammad

00:40:38.880 shifted most followers to orthodox sunni islam reducing so basically the main successor line 0.97

00:40:44.160 like it was this guy then this guy then his son and then his son was like this is stupid we should 0.95

00:40:48.400 just be sunni muslims good for him that's that's like that's very wholesome yeah it is actually yeah 0.96

00:40:55.120 wow it's been described in the shadows former self so simone did you learn something new this was

00:41:03.200 fascinating malcolm i'm really glad that you you found this nugget of fascination and i love the

00:41:11.120 weird wholesome twist at the end of like oh this was a mistake let's just let's just go and you know

00:41:17.120 it's not shia islam either it's like let's go to just mainstream most common form of islam just like

00:41:23.680 just do the right thing guys okay you're just you know being muslim like why don't fix it drop the 1.00

00:41:30.480 wheel okay break the cycle like if one of the mormon like head prophets was just like guys packing it

00:41:40.240 up we're gonna be protestants from now on made a mistake we can still i'm so i know man i love the lds

00:41:47.760 church don't you ever change guys like our our big argument to the lds church is stop trying

00:41:53.520 to get everyone to like you it's not going to happen like just be weird okay what do you think

00:41:59.840 of the nation of islam i mean they're pretty weird they've got a you know no but they're not fun 1.00

00:42:03.600 weird okay you know yeah i love the yakub story that's a that's better than xenu that's so much

00:42:09.840 better than it involves infanticide you just no no no no no you don't like it too too gushy no i love i

00:42:19.120 love lds all the way man i am i am a mormon an honorary mormon as my all my college friends would

00:42:26.640 tell me that we're mormon she used to hang out with all mormons so happy but the yakuba the yakub story

00:42:32.160 is um like when i heard that and what it got me longer thinking about this like the moment i heard

00:42:37.600 the guy's like yeah wait that makes no sense and second why did anybody ever believe this story it

00:42:44.000 sounds so on his face oh my god right it's insane i love it though i love it i love these

00:42:49.840 conversations with you i'm glad we're just gonna we're off the rails again we'll see how long we

00:42:54.880 last how long we last thanks to everyone who put the wind back in our sails we were really we were

00:43:00.640 really really though like demoralized last week and so many people came forward like actually like

00:43:07.440 subscribed to like show us very real generous support tons of and patreon tons of just comments

00:43:15.360 supporting us okay fine like we're gonna go for it like as long as we can make this work we're gonna

00:43:20.240 do it we're gonna try and so thank you to everyone malcolm i love you i'm gonna bring up pumpkin soup

00:43:24.880 before you debate the the dude about beating our children and i love you ciao i'm the best at it i'm a

00:43:31.760 very good beater he's so good it it just slapping all the children cross face anyway ciao ciao bye bye 0.97

00:43:43.280 okay malcolm's gone this means i can try to think of the most embarrassing things to tell about him

00:43:48.160 while he's off screen okay let's go my mind is blinking he's honestly so amazing you don't even

00:43:54.880 understand what life is like like with him every single day genuinely so fun he's he's like the

00:44:01.360 stereotype for the the way that perfect cousins are supposed to be because he's constantly

00:44:05.680 complimenting me like which which kind of it's it's wasted because i'm too autistic to care like 0.87

00:44:11.760 i only really care about negative comments and which i never get from him he's so kind to me

00:44:16.800 then i i compliments just make me uncomfortable because i feel like i have to pay them back but

00:44:20.960 he still constantly compliments me and it's just like wow you look really good and he means it

00:44:26.480 because he will also tell you something is really crappy when it is which comes up all the time with

00:44:34.240 the food because i often mess up and yeah he's also very generous about that being someone who only

00:44:40.240 eats one meal a day it's amazing he doesn't cry when his meals are screwed up okay but fun embarrassing

00:44:45.520 stuff about malcolm oh i mean like weird details weird details when i first started dating him and this

00:44:53.120 still happens oh no hey that looks better there you go problem solved something saved by the bell

00:45:01.600 because i was trying to think of embarrassing things to say while recording about you oh no

00:45:08.160 i just thought of a good one and no but we have to start recording so quick question

00:45:13.840 by the way i'm going to structure the debate with stephen molyneux because i'm about to have a debate with

00:45:17.440 him over yeah which is gonna be fun is i've decided to start it actually talking about polyamory

00:45:25.920 and i'm going to point out that this has never been successfully you it's never been a common

00:45:31.760 practice in any oh my god i love this and not beating children has also never never happened once

00:45:39.600 within a growing and thriving civilization during wow and you can't just be like real gender

00:45:45.680 gentle parenting has never been tried real polyamory has never been tried no like no there's been

00:45:51.200 enough time of this okay yeah i'm gonna i can be like it's it's it's it's you see it in hunter

00:45:57.120 gatherer tribes but you do not see it in successful civilizations yeah and the moment we stop doing it 1.00

00:46:03.440 well and hunter gatherer tribes and you were just describing how like one father like one woman described

00:46:09.520 how a man just like grabbed a crying yeah well you have his head against a tree until he died like

00:46:14.400 i don't you do have it you do have some hunter gatherer tribes that do no corporal punishment of

00:46:18.400 children at all but you don't see that in major civilizations and so i'm going to point out that i'm

00:46:24.800 going to try to frame the whole debate of framing it as like that kind of a luxury belief

00:46:28.720 um i like it you'll like it yeah it's gonna be good it's gonna be good all right

00:46:38.160 hey mister

00:46:46.880 torsten watch out don't get wet

00:46:48.640 torsten do not do that do not do that get out of there you will get wet

00:47:18.640 oh

00:47:22.800 Mary, why?

00:47:27.340 Over here.

00:47:30.880 Look at me.

00:47:31.800 Look.

Based Camp - December 08, 2025

Yakub Is the LEAST Crazy Thing About The Nation Of Islam

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