01:00:04.220fertility plummets with single family households regardless of income high fertility i think a lot
01:00:10.700of people anecdotally might have noticed that especially on the low end of the income spectrum
01:00:14.780but so the idea would be to incentivize more i guess of that whole middle area the the middle
01:00:22.320area of the bell curve to have more kids you should incentivize single family households by
01:00:27.000but he didn't say that that's the reason that i jumped on it because he see you're you're being
01:00:32.660smart and you're saying what he should have said incentivize single family households that he
01:00:38.240didn't say that he said incentivize people working less generally which is to say gender gender
01:00:45.300neutral we should just have everybody work less no dumbass we should have women women work less
01:00:51.480how is this how do you not go to the next logical step women should work less are we talking about
01:00:58.320For example, if we believe that single income households at the bottom and top of the spectrum have more children, do we also believe that there's no pattern of whether or not the earner in the household is a man or a woman?
01:01:12.720Because I'll tell you what, 99% of those households, the earner is a man and the woman is at home.
01:01:38.320What we need is to be able to keep the 85% of our fucking productivity that the elites and the government and the banks take from us every year, and then our wives don't have to work anymore.0.99
01:01:49.580We could cut our productivity, industrial productivity, in half as long as we got to actually keep it to ourselves.1.00
01:14:59.120because we have a young child and we're probably gonna have a second on the way soon1.00
01:15:03.640um and so you know she works very hard she's but her her work day is 100 percent work it's not0.77
01:15:11.780commuting it's not bullshitting around the office it's not looking for snacks and whatnot it's not
01:15:18.340parties and that it's just 100 percent work because she's very very efficient and then her
01:15:23.340off time is spent walking to another room to visit her son which she would never be able to do
01:15:28.980right so in her in her mind she's like oh i'm getting i'm getting less time spent on fucking
01:15:35.120bullshit more work gets done and there's less interference from other people now she has to1.00
01:15:40.780check her slack and you know you have all the office shit but it seems to maximize the time
01:15:46.100for people who have things going on in their lives other than work and then there's some people where
01:15:51.940they seem to hate work from home because they had they don't have anything going on their lives
01:15:55.900they're just single people right and they use work in the office for socializing or meeting a0.98
01:16:00.640fucking boyfriend or whatever it might be this sounds like i'm critical mainly to women because
01:16:05.200those are the types of people who i see like being in the office more than guys don't like being in
01:16:10.500the office i don't think and again there's no fucking data here but i would love to see
01:16:14.760how this tilts male versus female but anyway so he says daily commutes into an office are simply
01:16:22.620not coming back for competent people. Everyone I talk to who loves their craft would rather simply
01:16:27.720not work than go back to wasting their lives in traffic. They would rather have that time purely
01:16:32.280for working, which they can now do. The analogy, there's a dumb analogy here. The spell of the
01:16:38.640office being a requisite for modern work was broken. The genie is impossible to put back in
01:16:43.820the bottle. Everyone will adapt. So all we have left are bad bosses who want everyone to be
01:16:48.940miserable in order to prop up their portfolios and some
01:16:52.040percentage of mid managers who simply hate their lives and want
01:16:54.620to pierce us in traffic for two hours a day. And before people
01:16:57.800might think that sounds, you know, bombastic, that is true.
01:17:01.320There's a lot of people who think they just want you to
01:17:03.780suffer because that's their job. Their job is making you kind of
01:17:07.200miserable to justify their job. Now, what do you think about
01:17:09.860that? He's saying remote work one, yeah, remote work, being
01:17:15.100here to stay. And that this is kind of tying in the last one,
01:17:18.260which is that it might, as we start to automate more of these processes,
01:17:23.120you'll have more people spending time outside the office just getting out of the traditional workspaces entirely
01:17:29.060and filling that time with things at the home, which might include gardening,
01:17:33.920which might include childcare, which might include maybe some of those trad or more wholesome things that we always talk about doing.
01:17:43.240And if that's, of course, mainly white-collar jobs and, of course, mainly for people who want to pursue those things.
01:17:50.200But anyway, what do you think about all that?
01:17:52.080Well, first, just to address what you just said, I hope that that happens, but I don't think it will because the – you know what?
01:18:00.420I won't even go – I'll start at the beginning here.
01:18:02.220First of all, he says a couple of times in there, everybody that I know agrees.
01:18:06.560We'd all much rather not get stuck in graphic.
01:18:09.380Okay. The fact that you say everyone that I know agrees means you work in a bubble. You work in a bubble of people who have been offered work from home. I exist in the opposite bubble. I've worked across multiple industries in two countries over the past three years.
01:18:23.320and I don't know a single person aside from people.
01:18:28.420Well, okay, you and Ray are in a different industry for me
01:18:32.100and I know you, so I know in your families
01:18:34.680that there's been some work from home going on.
01:18:36.340But in my industry, none of my coworkers
01:18:40.700So for me to say, oh, everybody agrees with you.
01:18:44.000I literally have never seen personally firsthand
01:18:46.540an example of a job that could be competently done
01:18:49.340work from home because we build real things.
01:18:51.520now going back to some of the earlier stuff i actually took notes on this
01:18:56.840some minor notes you did prep you said no just now while while you were reading and i read it
01:19:04.040earlier um you were saying and he also mentions like oh you know there's some of these jobs or
01:19:08.840you had said actually there's some of these jobs that we could just remove except what he's talking
01:19:12.680about is there are some of these jobs that can just be done from home so he's you're kind of
01:19:17.020touching on it, but he's not getting to the full point, which is most of the jobs, and I do mean
01:19:22.480most of the jobs that can be easily put in a work from home setting and they are equally as
01:19:28.880productive. It's usually because they're not that productive to begin with and they could probably
01:19:35.360just be removed. So that's one thing. And then related to that is the idea like, oh, I'm more
01:19:41.480productive while working at home well more productive than what again probably because
01:19:47.140you weren't that productive to begin with you're being paid a lot of money for something that's
01:19:50.700pretty fucking easy to do isn't monitored and has no metrics so again can probably be taken away i
01:19:57.060think what's actually going on here is there we're this is it's not a coincidence this is happening
01:20:01.720at the same time as the push for ai and automation if we did not have a a quote a ostensibly
01:20:08.620grassroots work from home movement while white collar jobs were being automated away then it
01:20:14.580would be too easy to blame this all on the employer on big capital on whoever but as it stands these
01:20:22.320people are the ones who will be crucified crucifying each other and us them when their
01:20:28.620whole industry gets converted over to gemini and chat gpt which is going to happen in the next three
01:20:34.300or four years because what because you are people who a work exclusively on a computer
01:20:38.720your cooperation with other human beings is exclusively in text and occasionally on the
01:20:43.880phone most of what you do is software and and it's all remote so you are the you're the number
01:20:50.720one idiots to be completely replaced by ai and you're begging for it your employers are looking
01:20:56.120you right in the eye pointing a gun at you right now and saying come back to work or else and
01:21:00.380you're saying fuck you i'd rather be unemployed guess what you're unemployed by 2030 you're all
01:21:05.720going to be replaced by ai and you're going to have only yourself to blame so here's why i think
01:21:10.100they'll try and avoid that whenever they can because this is um when we covered a long time ago
01:21:17.260the bell curve by charles murray and bringing that up because we mentioned bell curves a lot so far
01:21:22.680um a lot of people who haven't read the book will miss what i think is the purpose of that book
01:21:29.400because everyone pays attention to the racial statistics which are valid and true of course
01:21:33.400but really what that book was about was introducing people to the idea of sort of the left tail
01:21:39.400of the iq distribution and yes there are you know black people are off by like a couple standard
01:21:48.260deviations or whatever from white people so they are on average dumber right um that means like
01:21:55.740the dumbest black person you know is dumber than the dumbest white person and the smartest black
01:22:00.840person in existence is nowhere near as smart as the smartest white person plus the average is
01:22:04.920lower um but what that also misses is there's a lot of below average whites there's a lot like
01:22:12.760regardless of you know comparing races the fact that matters if it was just white people there's
01:22:17.880still a lot of lower iq whites or below average iq whites just based on the bell curve distribution
01:22:24.640And we need to do something about that. And we don't have a society that's set up to deal with this huge population. And as we continue to automate and increase the unemployed, you are going to get a South America situation where these people are going to get violence.
01:22:42.720And that's actually what inspired, I believe, Charles Murray's subsequent books.
01:22:47.600He essentially makes the case later on, I think in his most recent book, that he recognized this in the bell curve.
01:22:53.240And his solution is basically just universal basic income because he's looked at the data.
01:22:57.800He's like, I don't know what to do about this because if unemployment reaches what we think it's going to be with automation,
01:23:04.480it's like people are just going to start actually eating the rich.
01:23:08.040Like you can't, there is no society with that many unemployed people.
01:23:10.720So his solution is to pay them. I don't know what the other solution is, because if it is going to happen, like they're going to try as hard as they can to not call it unemployment or try to create.
01:23:21.080And we talked about this with even with Marco Popic with geopolitical alpha, like we're moving towards a more socialist country.
01:23:29.460There's more people willing to accept universal basic income. But I'm like, that's a bandaid solution.
01:23:35.740Anyway, I know you're trying to get in here.
01:23:38.060There's this same old little white lie, though, that the automation is going to replace the left tail of the bell curve.
01:38:53.140and there's a there's a lot riding on charlemagne the figure from history um but one argument is
01:39:02.120that the dark ages weren't actually that dark that that was more not propaganda but that was
01:39:08.980more created by the christian church um the catholics primarily but christians probably
01:39:14.120to denote a period of darkness before the ascendance of christianity to define europe
01:39:21.000So it almost wanted to sell us on the story that pre-Christian, that whole era was just darkness and death and ignorance until they showed up.
01:39:31.820So to steel man the argument against this, it would be that, well, it wasn't actually that dark.
01:39:36.320You know, there were actually there were records.
01:39:38.360There was it wasn't literacy did decline.
01:39:42.480Trade did decline on account of the Muslims and breaking up trade routes.
01:39:47.060but there was there was history being written down insofar as history was written down back then
01:39:54.180maybe not as much as now obviously but it's still there so you know the entire idea of it being dark
01:39:58.920was itself propaganda that's what they would say but he's basically saying that no he's gonna make
01:40:05.400a more comprehensive argument that you know that whole block of time actually makes more sense if
01:40:10.820you take both ends of that era and tie them together that's what i'm gonna say next this
01:40:16.060parts you know and by the way i'm going to quote the claims made in the book i have in fact checked
01:40:20.780all of them so you know if he does make a historical claim blame him not me i haven't
01:40:26.520checked this against five other fucking books um i'm saying that because of this next part i don't
01:40:32.580know if this is true but he says using the most up-to-date mathematics that's afraid you know i
01:40:37.800don't like using the word up-to-date mathematics that's a quote from the book he said so that kind
01:40:42.920of sounds clunky but using the most up-to-date mathematics as well as knowledge of celestial
01:40:47.740mechanics modernist modern astronomers can calculate very precisely where each and every
01:40:53.700solar eclipse was visible in the past few thousand years the astonishing thing is that not a single
01:40:58.720solar eclipse reported by the ancient authors can be confirmed by modern retro calculation however
01:41:03.820scholars have now also noted a curious feature if three centuries is added to the date of the
01:41:10.000ancient eclipse as provided by the roman author then it lifts then it fits almost precisely with
01:41:15.400the modern calculation so this book is start stating that the premise that three centuries
01:41:19.880between ad 615 and 915 never existed and all the phantom years inserted in the calendar during the
01:41:26.680early middle ages were just completely made up um here is the main story of who did it and why
01:41:34.720so this is a big chunk of right i'm just going to read it but this is the key to the entire thing
01:42:09.260Otto I, and this is the main guy here, Otto I or Otto the Great, who is said to have revived the Holy Roman Empire in the 10th century after it again went to abeyance in the 9th, is now seen as a Germanic king who revived the Western Europe, not in 962, but 662, a little more than a couple of decades after the ride of Byzantium by the Arabs.
01:42:31.640But in claiming the imperial crown of the West, Otto I was taking an unprecedented step,
01:42:37.680a Germanic prince robing himself in the purple of the Caesars.
01:42:42.840Otto, a descendant of Charlemagne, is the first since his illustrious ancestor to assert his authority with effect.
01:42:51.520He suppressed the rebellious barons and brings centralized control to the Saxon and many of the German states.
01:42:59.140In 951 he achieves a victory in northern Italy, adding Lombardy to his kingdom.
01:43:05.300Between the death of Charlemagne and the crowning of Otto, Europe was plagued with internal strife,
01:43:11.220as well as regular invasions of pagan forces from the east.
01:43:15.380Especially the devastating and regular invasions of the Maguars.
01:43:20.020Otto alone, on the continent of Europe, took a strong stand against the invaders.
01:44:02.180So one was created, and thus was born the myth of Charlemagne.
01:44:06.400And if one is to create a fictitious German emperor,
01:44:09.800such a figure, along with the ancestors and progeny,
01:44:12.540would need two or three centuries in which to reign,
01:44:15.200and one would therefore be involved in a general distortion of chronology.
01:44:19.000So in short, what he's saying is that this guy, Otto I, Otto the Great, wanted a present for a German king to be ruling this large of a kingdom.
01:44:28.980So they basically invented Charlemagne out of whole cloth, or rather not out of whole cloth, but rather pulled from other kings in the past.
02:06:55.840No one actually just opened Google Earth to look where Atlantis should be and saw that Atlantis is just fucking there.
02:07:04.000By speaking the same language of English and wearing the same military uniforms, i.e. the red coats, the Roman Empire was effectively able to hide their empire.
02:07:15.700So just, you know, if people were misled, Rome still exists because they dressed in costumes to look like British people.
02:07:22.320uh this notion is evident in the war flag of the holy roman empire which features the same
02:07:27.640design and color as the flag of england oh god oh sorry there's also i'm looking at a forum here
02:07:37.780and there's a lot of links here um 10 things you must do to get into heaven uh 911 truther.org
02:07:44.980um well i just want to read a couple more things i know we gotta get going i just want to read a
02:07:49.980couple more things here um yeah rome evidently faked his own death in seven seven hundred fifteen
02:07:56.460years ago and now except exerts command and control over all 206 nations of the world
02:08:03.140through its primary proxy state of switzerland switzerland which in brackets here says home of
02:08:10.080the cia really is like is that is that something you've heard and she has a link here it just says
02:08:19.900sight not found okay this is the source for cia okay whatever which was coincidentally formed
02:08:26.380in 1300 a.d um roughly 1300 years were added to the modern calendar taking the world to the day
02:08:33.4002015 um the capital of the roman empire was the city of babylon and i'll that doesn't sound right
02:22:56.880You're not, you're not like, it's so obviously not real.
02:23:01.200you know what i'm saying that it's like but you're saying stuff that you're not allowed to say so of
02:23:07.020course kids are going to be attracted to this like i yeah there's this girl i had i had this like
02:23:11.360assistant for a while and she's a perfect example of this she's like a real dime square girl and
02:23:16.360you know she's not based she's not like right wing at all but she just loves saying gay and she loves
02:23:23.000like tweeting about libtards because it's just hilarious it's just really funny yeah you know
02:23:28.620what i mean so it's the whole dirtbag left thing where it's right yeah it's very dirtbag left it's
02:23:33.740very like just absurd and people just think that shit's funny that's why it's so fucking annoying
02:23:39.000when nathan fielder who would never do anything slightly like to the he would never do anything
02:23:47.180slightly like inappropriate right yeah uh that he's like copying this shit you know it's just
02:23:53.540like so toothless and annoying but it is funny that you mentioning uh calling things gay because
02:23:58.840that was one of the big victories for our side which is like getting regular people to admit that
02:24:04.440yeah being gay is lame gay means lame south park tried to be like no gay doesn't have to do with
02:24:09.380sexuality it has to do with being lame anyone could be a fag it's like no no no gay people
02:24:14.400are kind of gross and lame when you see a pride parade it's a weird gross thing it's it's dumb
02:24:19.600it's weird and then everyone got dragged into that world where even like lib girls are saying
02:24:24.560yeah that's gay and that means like two men kissing because two men kissing is kind of lame
02:24:28.660that's what it means everyone just kind of admits that now just like they fought for the right to
02:24:33.640say retard yeah right we fought for the right to say retard and gay and it's like and it's definitely
02:24:40.400like now it's okay again to do it yeah you can like feel comfortable doing it and and there's
02:24:47.180And that's why, like, even if you watch that scene, watching the evolution of the dirtbag left is kind of like watching the evolution of the hippies.
02:24:53.880I was reading this fascinating book by, I got it right here, by Jim Hogan called Decadence, and it was tracing the history and life of the counterculture movement in the 60s, basically like the boomer counterculture movement and the phases it went through and how it started with sort of spirituality and mysticism, then it moved to magic.
02:25:14.340And then it actually follows almost beat for beat what we're doing right now, how it started as urban and the way it ended was like a lot of these hippies retreating into the woods to create parallel societies.
02:25:28.240Like it's the exact, like line for line, the exact same shit.
02:25:31.080So I'm looking at that like, okay, they obviously went wrong or went awry.
02:43:04.460So my competency with the Adobe Creative Suite, I wouldn't say is the top.
02:43:08.380I wouldn't call myself a designer because I know people who went to art school and art directors who do that.
02:43:13.140but i would say i can hold my own um then i would have been a media strategist before that so that
02:43:19.060would have been i dealt with the accounts team and just devised strategy pitch decks for the
02:43:24.740clients that came in prior to that uh one of the roles at a mid-sized agency i would have been the
02:43:30.180social media and content manager so i would have handled all the social media accounts for
02:43:34.420around 12 of our biggest clients so that was a lot of the scheduling and a lot of the keeping
02:43:40.180up with those certifications which is a fucking nightmare um prior to that i would have what
02:43:45.700would have been just a marketing director for a fairly large law firm as well um that was a fun
02:43:53.460one i actually enjoyed that one the most because working client side is a bit easier than working
02:43:58.180for agencies i find again because agencies the larger they are are largely sweatshops
02:44:03.620and liars as well they fake numbers a lot of the time so what does that mean sweatshop when you say
02:44:10.080that because people say that about the big agencies around here and i you know i really haven't worked
02:44:15.220at enough of them i've always been you know in in my mainstream advertising career as a creative
02:44:22.740i really was a bottom feeder i was a bottom feeding schmuck i worked at shitty agencies and
02:44:28.800like influencer side agencies. The only time that I really, I worked in pharma, which is like
02:44:35.120very viewed as like the worst part of advertising. That would be a tough one though. There's a lot
02:44:41.620of money in that. But yeah, good money, but it's very like not respected. And then the only time
02:44:47.000I had any real like prestige was working in branding, which that I did like work at the
02:44:52.560good agencies, but I never like was a creative director inside one of the really big agencies.
02:44:57.640So I don't know. And everybody used to say, oh, it's a sweatshop. So like, what does that mean?
02:45:02.700Good question. So I will say, I'll try to give an example again without doxing myself. So my wife, her agency, it's an all girl boss agency. And they have the tendency of leading every conversation with anything you need, whenever you need it will be their holidays, evenings, weekends, just send us an email, because they believe that their main selling point is being available.
02:45:26.980so they they put it out there they put a hang a shingle saying we'll be your slaves so they go
02:45:34.220out of their way to so you'll be working evenings you'll be working on a sunday you'll be working
02:45:38.220especially if it's e-commerce so another point is that if you're working on anything in e-commerce
02:45:42.720for any big e-commerce brand you understand that their biggest blitzes are during sale times black
02:45:50.220friday you know in and around the holidays so if you are doing any sort of campaign they need to
02:45:57.500be dynamically changed and optimized on the go hour by hour a lot of the time so if you are
02:46:02.880dealing with big money e-commerce clients they will demand that you're staying up late to turn
02:46:08.060on or turn off an ad or whatever it might be ah yeah so that's like the digital part you got to
02:46:12.700turn turn them on and off and shit yeah and just just again some boring shit for people but i find
02:46:18.800interesting it's that um if you're designing an ad um and this is also true on google uh what the
02:46:25.500value of the ad is how long it's running a lot of the time because it leverages machine learning so
02:46:29.660much and ai to the point where if you're running an ad long enough the google will effectively
02:46:34.780design your ad for you you just type in a bunch of headlines it'll swap in and your conversion
02:46:41.260rate will be like 30 which is like unheard of like a conversion rate historically would be like
02:46:47.1605%. But the ads make themselves if they're running long enough and the program, the algorithms
02:46:52.840learned. So there's an investment in not just creating new ads. Because a new ad, you can
02:46:59.040schedule. You can schedule it to go up and go down. However, what they ended up doing is running,
02:47:04.800and every agency does this, right? They're running the same ad for five years because
02:47:08.820they don't want to lose those quote unquote learnings. And the only way to turn it on and
02:47:12.580off, you can't schedule that. You got to be doing it on the fly whenever you need. So there's a lot
02:47:17.000of people out there like we we got to run the same ad for five years because it's so effective
02:47:21.500um and anyway i won't get too technical with it but that's what a lot of people are doing and so
02:47:26.160that's why there's so many people still getting jobs as campaign managers because it's a shit job
02:47:32.140and there's no real good way to automate it yet well but it's but how is there no way to automate
02:47:40.260it sounds like there is a way to automate it right isn't that what you're saying there is but
02:47:44.220You just kind of, the ad exists and then it's learned, the learnings that are happening is
02:47:49.780basically how many people are clicking on it based on how it's written or what appears on it,
02:47:55.460right? So the ad is just existing forever because it's slightly like changing depending on what's
02:48:02.380working and not. That's, that's how this works, right? Yeah. Yeah. So the reason is what the
02:48:07.700platforms want you to do is create a new ad every time and to ramp up to that level of effectiveness
02:48:14.500will take a few weeks or a few months during which time you're kind of just wasting you're
02:48:19.900spending more money but you're kind of wasting money but you're actually spending more money
02:48:24.340on the platform which is what the platforms want they want you wasting money like a casino spending
02:48:28.780on stuff that doesn't work right so they kind of make it difficult for you to manage your budget
02:48:34.020effectively that's why you need just humans there to manually turn it on and off so you're not
02:48:38.440wasting client money because at that level the margins are so fucking razor thin like you're
02:48:43.960competing on price with other agencies you're already probably driving down your profit as
02:48:49.180much as you can and honestly once you get to the high enough levels you start seeing some shady
02:48:54.480shit like there's some in toronto there's a lot of the international agencies are there but some
02:48:58.660of the big names like the fake uh campaign data or they'll they'll start taking they'll say we
02:49:05.060need a budget for this they'll shave off a bit of that budget for themselves and then lie about
02:49:10.420the numbers so it doesn't look you know they're cooking the books basically but that's just one
02:49:14.840way they can get a bit more revenue um and if you think that wasn't happening tenfold during
02:49:20.360covet 19 you know that's why no one can make sense of the data anymore by the way that's why
02:49:24.500there's so many influencers like i can't make sense these numbers i the the i'm not getting
02:49:29.800conversions on the ads everything kind of seems fake right now but there's so much money invested
02:49:35.300in keeping this framework going that i don't know i don't know what's going to happen with it but
02:49:40.900you're seeing a lot of layoffs and that's what was interesting about twitter elon musk made a
02:49:46.000wager like can you fire most of these people and things still keep going because the people he
02:49:50.940really fired i knew people who were fired from twitter they were the um product managers yeah
02:49:56.600and that that was a general term for my job is to deal with uh ad people to companies to try and
02:50:03.760convince them to spend more but can we get rid of those people and the wheels keep turning and it
02:50:08.660looks like the answer is yes yeah wow that's crazy it's it's really funny yeah it's it's yeah yeah
02:50:17.840I think that a lot of those jobs are totally useless and so much of it as you said is just like this pretend thing of email me at any time and I'm always available and you know women are so easily talked into this my favorite story one of my favorite like tech stories of the past like five years or so was what happened at away luggage did you see that no no I didn't hear about that one so
02:50:47.840This is so great. Like Away Luggage was a total girl boss company, right? It was it was like the CEO was a woman. And she had this like tribe of customer service women. And like, it became a cult. And like the customer service woman like wouldn't eat for days, like their family were like calling being like, we haven't seen Rachel and in weeks.
02:51:17.800She said she was coming home for Thanksgiving and she said she was coming home for Christmas
02:51:45.120what are these things inside companies that are like the the black organization inside the company
02:51:50.440well it depends on the organization but yeah resource groups no there's some word for this
02:51:54.840it's like the uh like like black group inside the company it's like called the employee resource
02:52:02.940groups yeah exactly and uh they started complaining about having to like work too much
02:52:09.760So then it became a lawsuit and then it all came out. And what you saw was this like arch bitch who was the C, I think either the CEO or like slightly under the CEO, like completely manipulating these, these women into working and completely destroying their personal lives. Right.1.00
02:52:29.400absolutely it was like it was like okay you might have 2.5 hours off for thanksgiving but then we'll
02:52:36.960need you to come back in because you believe in the mission right you believe in the female driven
02:52:42.420mission of this company blah blah and so they were just completely they became slaves like utter
02:52:47.740slaves for away luggage the irony is that if you had a misogynistic man running that he would have
02:52:55.520give them more time off he always said oh you need a week off for your fucking period go ahead
02:52:59.980and it would have been better for them oh way better i mean no i mean a man couldn't have
02:53:05.140gotten away with any of this right i mean now now a man a gay man maybe right like a sassy gay man
02:53:11.580can and i mean this is why the industry is what it is now because straight men literally can not
02:53:19.860have these jobs right yeah i mean like and for people who need a bit of context if they haven't
02:53:27.000seen it i don't know if this is in other industries but if i were to apply for a job
02:53:31.200right now where i'm in canada every single agency job in any single government-related job they will
02:53:37.900literally ask you on the application are you gay are you a minority are you a woman and they'll
02:53:43.140say something which is endlessly funny to me which is this isn't going to weigh our decision we just
02:53:48.120want to know yeah and of course if you're right prefer not to say they're like oh that means white
02:53:53.280and like it's so in the open that like i don't know what how you're supposed to feel about that
02:53:57.520that's why it's so difficult for these guys to get jobs and that's why you will very often see
02:54:03.060in toronto like completely female run agencies but there's no there's no other way i mean like
02:54:08.820Literally, the standards are so glaringly different that either you, I don't see how you could possibly survive at all for five seconds.0.88
02:54:23.820I mean, you would basically have to completely separate yourself.
02:54:28.260The second you get any power inside one of these companies, you're immediately a target, right?
02:54:33.500So there's two types of white straight men inside mainstream marketing companies.
02:54:37.920there is the grandfathered in ones that are at the top of the company a lot of time they started
02:54:44.540the company a lot of times they you know they just moved up the hierarchy long enough ago
02:54:50.380that they're at the top right and since the longhouse works the way it does the longhouse
02:54:56.180tends to worship these like dads you know yes like like they want nothing more than the approval of
02:55:04.060daddy like that that's all that really counts to them like way more than the approval of a woman
02:55:09.120they want the approval of like the man at the very top right so there's this like layer of
02:55:15.240you know the hype dads whatever you want to call them at the very top but then they've made it
02:55:20.920completely 100 impossible for any man with talent or any man that is in the slightest bit
02:55:29.840problematic straight a straight man to move up in the system yeah you know like there's just no
02:55:37.880chance and they'll outright tell you this too because i've been told by hr people it's like
02:55:42.600you're not going to make it to a certain level or you're not going to get hired because you're a
02:55:47.660white man and there's been people who have forwarded strategies around that which i just
02:55:51.380don't want to do which is no just just lie and say you're trans i'm like i'm not gonna do it
02:55:55.540i'm not gonna lie and say i'm genderqueer i'm not gonna go down this legitimizing pathway
02:56:00.620i shouldn't have to fuck that dude i i quit on the spot man i i was working inside this agency
02:56:06.200ultra ultra long house like 10 out of 10 long house and uh i brought i fucking killed it for
02:56:14.380that man i brought in literally like millions of dollars to the company that they wouldn't
02:56:18.200have had otherwise and yet every friday i was given a long talking to about oh i would it
02:56:25.280wasn't nice enough to this person and that this person. And I tolerated it for a year. And then
02:56:32.100the year came up and I was like, all right, well, maybe they're giving me all this shit all the
02:56:36.100time, but at least they must know. Like I've literally brought millions of dollars into this
02:56:42.740company. Like I'm not even just saying that literally this is true. And I was like, okay,
02:56:48.200well, yeah. All right. I just tried to like ignore it. And then it came time for Ray's time.
02:56:52.480And I was like, all right, well, okay, I guess, you know, let's talk about the race.
02:56:55.760And the woman said to me like, oh, no, like your behavior problems, like you could, you
02:57:01.980could really rise high here, but you can't get anywhere until your behavior problems
02:57:21.840well the funny thing is is because in a male driven industry of any kind uh there's this
02:57:27.820there is a thing called a work culture but it's ancillary to the actual work itself so the idea
02:57:32.620is like if everyone hates you we'll just fire you but living in this gray zone where it's like you
02:57:37.980do a good job no one hates you but you could just tweak a few things and for that reason
02:57:44.080we've tied a monetary benefit to it that blows my fucking mind because if you do the a good job
02:57:49.420should get a raise very very simple if you bring money into a company whose job it is to get more
02:57:55.100money from your clients you should get a raise that is it it doesn't matter how you behave who
02:58:01.520cares if you do the job better than other people and you bring in the money you then get a raise
02:58:07.720that's that's the you know there's no other as soon as somebody my advice to anybody would be
02:58:12.240as soon as somebody tries to any environment that you're in that's not going to recognize your value
02:58:16.660you should just leave immediately because yeah you're you're gonna be miserable for the for the
02:58:21.340rest of your life and also like i've been in this industry long enough where like i've survived in
02:58:26.660places like that and for people who haven't it really does weigh on your soul it does drive you
02:58:32.940insane as a man having to learn how to write an email so you don't sound angry to a female mind
02:58:40.760you lose a part of it so you start like okay because to not get in trouble i need to write
02:58:46.320more exclamation marks to let them know exclamation points yeah i need to write smiley
02:58:50.940faces i need to for the last place i worked at you know i really had to be on slack a lot i'm
02:58:56.760like okay if you don't wish everyone a happy birthday yes that's that thing you were talking
02:59:00.960about there's murmurs about you now oh you're not playing the game i'm like and you better have a
02:59:05.960fucking party emoji but because you better mean it yeah you didn't agree and amplify uh the this
02:59:12.640persons i mean and then of course it really starts to get bad when politics gets involved i mean i
02:59:19.520the best agency i ever worked for was a great branding agency that wasn't longhouse at all
02:59:26.820it was a bunch of like young talented british dudes who made incredible work i mean these guys
02:59:32.780were they worked really hard they worked like you know they would get there at nine they would leave
02:59:38.180it 10 every night uh designer you know it was very design centric so you know designers work
02:59:44.220so many hours because it just takes forever to do what they're doing as opposed to writers who
02:59:48.940can just kind of like you know shit out whatever but uh i was so impressed by them and and the the
02:59:55.760the quality of the work was great um but you know they were playing this woke game all their
03:00:04.380clients were woke uh it was big tech right so it's like every client is gonna be woke as fuck
03:00:12.880and god this girl who was just pure cancer worked next to me and she was uh horribly you know not1.00
03:00:22.080good at her job at all i looked at her she spent all day shopping every day all day shopping and1.00
03:00:28.840um of course what did she do with the agency she constantly tried to get them to take on1.00
03:00:38.700woke pro bono projects and she successfully did this with this fucking trans rights organization1.00
03:00:47.920that she just kept forcing it so suddenly every day we have to have a meeting about this pro bono
03:00:55.980trans client this girl yeah that's the great thing about trans clients is that no matter what they're
03:01:01.560doing it's always non-profit right right it's like like it's it's non-profit although no but
03:01:08.900really think about it what is more lucrative than trans surgery you know what i mean like that's
03:01:13.800actually very for-profit so you know this was one of these these companies and it became a thing
03:01:20.840where it was like every day they'd be like who wants to volunteer some time on the trans project
03:01:26.480this literally oh shit and now it's your problem now it's like oh you haven't raised your hand
03:01:31.280i didn't raise my hand excitedly about the trans project and then of course you become a fucking
03:01:37.740target which is exactly what happened to me and uh you know i was killing it there too i brought
03:01:44.420in a bunch of money there too and it was just you couldn't i couldn't survive because i had to either
03:01:49.940say something all the time that was against my beliefs or um you know slowly but surely become
03:01:57.480like an enemy of the system you want to know a funny story i got another fired story for you
03:02:02.660so um you know over the past few years there's a lot of upheavals in our industry like my story
03:02:08.740over the past years was like i moved to a different city to take my dream job a very
03:02:14.900difficult to get job the one that i was going to stay at for the rest of my life then covet 19 hit
03:02:19.760And because I was the most recent hire, I get laid off.
03:02:23.120Then, so I was kind of floating around for a bit during COVID in a new town where there wasn't a lot of work.
03:02:28.860And then I developed this strategy where I noticed over my career that a lot of small to mid-sized agencies, the principles of those agencies aren't good at anything.
03:02:39.360You have crib directors and accounts directors who they can't put pen to paper.
03:14:11.760these are all libertarian, they're anarchists
03:14:14.180right so what an anarchist actually means is basically somebody who just likes to drink at
03:14:18.680all hours of the day so a lot of them are like are like drunks you know but he's drinking and
03:14:25.940he's drinking a lot he's got this super hot wife it's super it's so fucked up dude and he's got
03:14:31.220kids and he gets in a fight with like the main guy who's like a crypto millionaire and the main
03:14:38.660guy fires him right and really this guy is a drunk but like this is his whole life is this
03:14:44.980conference and he spins out of control and he slowly kills himself with drinking basically
03:14:53.800right yeah and you see it happen and the last episode they're in the hospital with him and you
03:15:00.880see him dying in front of his kids of like liver failure right yeah and he is bright yellow
03:15:09.640he's got the cirrhosis yeah dude he he you never seen anything like this in a fictional film
03:15:16.100the way he looks is fucking horrifying shane gillis shane gillis did an episode on this and
03:15:23.840he said he looks like homer simpson yeah like i i believe honestly there was this it reminds me of
03:15:28.940this story and people don't think it can get that bad where you could consciously here's the thing
03:15:34.100that once you get that deep into any sort of addiction you do reach a fork in the road and
03:15:39.140you can decide knowing that you're gonna die to go down it i remember there's this band that i
03:15:45.360still like called children of bodum a lot of people might have heard about them sort of melodic death
03:15:49.720metal band and the lead singer crazy talented singer and a guitar player his name was alexi
03:15:56.020big-time alcoholic and there was a story and he died of uh liver failure and like he sat the band
03:16:03.000down at one point and said you know what i choose alcohol i know it's gonna kill me but i'm i'm just
03:16:09.420gonna go down this road and i'm i'm with i'm completely sober-minded as it can be and to me
03:16:15.460i'm like that's it has such a hold on you that you don't you hear stories of people turning away
03:16:21.860from it you don't hear the people who just choose to do that consciously it's so fucking sad man and
03:16:28.060he does this like in front of his kids and his kids like don't know what's going on and he's
03:16:34.160literally the color of a fucking school bus like he's not it's not like he like even in leaving
03:16:41.000las vegas best movie about alcoholism and it's a movie about a guy who decides to kill himself
03:16:46.860with alcohol even in that movie he doesn't look as bad as this guy look like this guy it looks
03:16:53.440like literally he's like been painted yellow it's like that shit makes you fucking look
03:16:58.880it's so fucked up it's like so fucking disturbing it's like he was great about leaving las vegas
03:17:05.360that was a great drunk movie because you're seeing a guy who's drunk off his ass and thinks he's the
03:17:10.800shit and thinks he's the most charming guy and cool but he's just this like sweaty drunk
03:17:16.440clumsy guy but when you're drunk like that's why to your point earlier about the writing that's
03:17:21.880one of the reasons that i stopped was because my writing became more effective when i was sober
03:17:27.760because i write in a very specific way i write a lot but i can't write with a lot of distractions
03:17:32.320and i know if i'm drunk i'm not gonna write and if i'm hung over forget about it so i can only
03:17:37.740write in very specific you know focused circumstances so like for maybe in my early
03:17:43.28020s I was kind of like yeah I'm gonna drink a bottle of whiskey and write this thing but it
03:17:47.220eventually it was just an impediment and then the stuff that I wrote was dog shit and I'd look at
03:17:54.460it later I'm like I but I at the time I thought it was great at the time it was the most poignant
03:18:00.280and profound idea ever but you know I saw had enough those mornings were like this just isn't
03:18:05.260good it's a waste of time what I'm doing that's why I stopped well but we can't say that writing
03:18:11.940makes alcohol makes you a bad writer because all most of the great writers in history have been
03:18:18.020hard here's a counterpoint they were amazing writers and think how better their writing
03:18:22.700might have been that that might sound like a co-phrase but you know consider that you know
03:18:28.360like maybe and there's a lot of writers who are sober and then just beat their head against the
03:18:32.800typewriter so i understand i completely adhere to that but i i submit my cope phrase and i stand by
03:18:40.020Okay. All right. I see. I disagree. I think I'm a better writer when I'm drinking. I was a very bad writer when I was stoned. And you know what I think is actually the worst thing for writing is Adderall. Adderall, you can tell. Oh, Adderall is horrible. And I take Adderall occasionally. Adderall is so fucking bad for writing. It's such a pleasure to write on because you're just like, whoa, fuck yeah. Like everything you're writing.
03:19:06.920because that's what people say i take adderall to write but you're saying that it makes oh it's
03:19:10.860bad writing fucking bad man it's so bad for you i can see it in myself i can see it in myself like
03:19:16.540i i can tell the parts that i've written on adderall and the parts that i've not written
03:19:22.940on adderall and it's interesting yeah the stuff that you write on adderall is it's so over it's
03:19:29.400like bloated it's like air adderall writing is like air and i can always tell like i know several
03:19:36.300very successful writers who write like in mainstream journalist types who write on Adderall
03:19:40.560and I can always see like man this is why dude all of DC the entire left in general is essentially
03:19:50.620powered by Adderall like Adderall is literally powering all of DC everything and you can see
03:19:57.980it in the way that the regime and you know the regime propagandists you can see it in the way
03:20:04.620that they act like i've never heard this before this is fascinating i'd like to know much of this
03:20:09.940as possible right yeah sorry sorry yeah yeah no you can see it man you can see in in the way they
03:20:16.180the ideas that they have the way they write you know is so adderall fueled the adderall is great
03:20:24.220for legal writing that's i got into it in law school and uh it's great for legal writing because
03:20:30.460legal writing is just vomiting you know every point on the page it doesn't have to be good or
03:20:35.680nuanced at all you know uh whereas writing creatively it's very bad for writing creatively
03:20:43.200because you're just it's you're just spewing on the page and it's it ends up being very
03:20:49.500indigestible to others i think now this might be an unknowable question but do you see any
03:20:55.740generational differences there is like everyone on adderall or do young people
03:21:00.060maybe zoomers use it more or less on the left literally every single person is on adderall i
03:21:05.900mean any striver any lefty gay striver uh they're all a hundred percent of them are on adderall
03:21:14.660everybody in dc is on adderall you know like i wonder if adderall replaced cocaine because
03:21:19.460people used to do cocaine to stay up and get a lot of writing done but now maybe that's like
03:21:23.800a shift that happened as well i don't think people realize how crazy the powerful people are like
03:21:32.140people think that artists are really like uh the crazy ones right because they artists kind of
03:21:39.420pretend like they play the role of the no rules person and i think historically that's true right
03:21:49.440Like the beats really were drunk and high all the time and, uh, the hippies really were on acid and, and, you know, like, um, I think all that was true for a very long time today that has totally flipped.
03:22:03.720Like, actually one of my favorite things is, do you know how, uh, liquid death mountain water came to be?
03:22:10.080I think we might've talked about this. Um, it started as like a, a meme or a joke, didn't it?
03:22:15.280No. So what it started as is musicians on the Warped Tour. So the guy who founded it was like some marketing guy on the Warped Tour. And what musicians on the Warped Tour would do was they would take a can of beer and they would empty it out and then they would pour water in it and they would drink it on stage.
03:22:39.160So it looked like they were like getting wasted on stage, but actually they were drinking
03:22:43.460water because, you know, they wanted to look cool, but really they're all try hard fucking
03:29:20.760Like you have the personality where you probably hate networking events.
03:29:24.360you hate mixers you know i used to go to those all the time where it's like shoulder to shoulder
03:29:28.420with like young guys they spent their entire paycheck on that suit too everyone wants to
03:29:33.420find the ceo but it's just other guys looking for jobs there but uh you know i i was wanted to ask
03:29:38.600you this because i remember gavin mcginnis who a lot of people don't like i understand why but
03:29:43.540early on he had an interesting statement he said something like you know when he became outed for
03:29:48.660whatever the fuck he is um he got kicked out of his agency but he said you know i lost a lot of
03:29:53.800work but it was almost like sending up a signal flare letting other right adjacent people know
03:29:59.180that who i am and that attracted some other business i was wondering has that been your
03:30:04.620experience at all like has have other doors opened because oh absolutely i mean without question
03:30:10.020definitely i mean that's that's you know that's the whole idea is that it opens other doors and
03:30:18.240it really does um and i'm so much happier man i you know the thing i really do have to say
03:30:24.740legitimately is i am so much happier as a person being out than i was when i was split right when
03:30:35.500i was hiding it really uh is so fucking different it just my mental like everything works and makes
03:30:44.720sense. Whereas back when I was working in the mainstream agencies, I would have money. I mean,
03:30:49.500I was also drinking a lot, but I would have Mondays come along that were just pure despair,
03:30:55.900you know, and you're not even really sure what you're, it's hard. It's not like you are like,
03:31:03.580I'm upset because I'm spiritually forwarding something I hate. It's not that simple. You just
03:31:10.380feel bad you know you and it's kind of unclear why you feel bad um and you feel like there's so
03:31:18.540much distance between what you want to be doing what you are doing and especially at agencies
03:31:24.060where you've worked there's so much bureaucracy so much of your day is just held up with these
03:31:29.760like because they give out jobs to people who to just make busy work so it's like meetings about
03:31:34.480meetings and then it's like and just how much of your day is spent like learning how to be nice on
03:31:39.800slack whereas what you want to do like my thing is i genuinely like marketing that sounds lame to
03:31:45.200a lot of people but i like it i like and people in our scene come to me asking questions for their
03:31:51.360business i do for free just because it's cool and i'm interested so that's the job i would love to
03:31:57.660do but the closer you get in these organizations like you don't even spend a lot of time doing
03:32:02.860that which is you know counterintuitive to what you might expect yeah no i will so i mean i agree
03:32:09.680i also like marketing but how do you deal with like uh you know being anon does that
03:32:16.560like do you feel bad having to like pretend i somewhat so i do i went into this with eyes open
03:32:25.780knowing that eventually if everything goes right if everyone loves the blood satellite show
03:32:30.580i'll probably be doxxed eventually so throughout the years i've operated with that assumption like
03:32:37.360you know someday everyone's going to know i said this thing let's make sure i'm saying something
03:32:41.680that i would be comfortable saying to my mother or my friends and i'm just an unhinged guy so i do
03:32:47.580say the things i say on my show to regular people uh but i don't say like anything that i would be
03:32:52.580embarrassed if it got outed so there's that um on the other hand i do think it's important that
03:32:58.160people like people should feel comfortable saying what they say online in public um and people like
03:33:04.800knowing that you've got some kind of stake in the game however i you know approach this from an
03:33:10.940older internet you're kind of my age i think we're around there so you probably remember
03:33:15.160earlier internet and i just liked the idea of having a real world persona but also having this
03:33:22.780special space the space where you could be anonymous and you could like try out saying
03:33:28.300stuff maybe you've never said before and i'm not saying that should be your main persona but it was
03:33:33.540always nice to have this arena where you could find people being their weirdest and just live
03:33:40.680there for a bit that's what 4chan and a lot of these places were people at their worst and seeing
03:33:45.520what what's that like or yeah and so i would love no matter if everyone was docs i do think there is
03:33:51.720a value for anonymity um especially practically going forward i like i don't want people to get
03:33:58.880fired and that's why i would recommend people be anonymous if you're afraid for whatever reason
03:34:03.600that you might lose your kids if it gets out if you got a vindictive x like there's a lot of
03:34:08.460reasons why people might want to be anonymous and that's their story then you know i'm not going to
03:34:14.220tell them to put everything on the line um but i i would love to live in a situation and also like
03:34:20.680the idea that most people i think are convinced that their ideas are more extreme than they are
03:34:24.940that's definitely true there's a lot of people like if you just say like gay sex is gross like
03:34:31.540more people would agree with you than you might think and that's kind of a fun thing you can
03:34:35.940find a group of people who if you tease out some of your ideas you might get a lot of traction and
03:34:42.520so if there's any like psyop going on it's convincing a lot of us that we are extreme
03:34:47.460schizo psychos a lot of us aren't you know i'm not a huge huge uh advocate of like sargon or
03:34:54.920academic agent but you know they had their arms around this idea of sensible centrism and i'm not
03:35:00.900a huge advocate of that but they were approaching this idea that you know a lot of the things that
03:35:04.880you think they're just what are are what we believe was the de facto norm like 50 years ago
03:35:11.280so let's not buy into the narrative that we're all just fucking schizo fringe rapist madman you
03:35:18.080know for thinking that tradition's good or whatever it is yeah i mean ultimately i'm of
03:35:24.940the belief i mean it's like i'm i kind of try to wrap my heads around this and that obviously like
03:35:32.180people immediately as soon as you start criticizing uh anything and on they're like
03:35:39.600you're a fucking jewish doxer you know and so i i'm i'm like aware of this and i i think
03:35:46.840anonymity has been great the anons are like the gods you know what i mean like they're like
03:35:52.020they're like these unreal like characters that exist not really in the real world you know what
03:36:01.020i mean and and there's something beautiful about that and there's something really beautiful about
03:36:05.880their existence you know like i i think there is something beautiful about anon and from an
03:36:12.840artistic standpoint it's like the character being played is so much a part of the uh thing as um
03:36:23.260the actual things that they're saying you know like the mystery of bap is is a huge part of like
03:36:31.060what he is and just bring it back to gavin mcannis like he was one of those guys who's like you don't
03:36:36.000even have your real face out there who are you i'm like i've never given a shit about that if
03:36:40.620people want to play a character online i'm i'm okay with that no i agree i agree and i i think
03:36:46.260like you're saying it's good to to i think it's good artistically is it good for the mission no
03:36:55.340it would be much better for the mission for like the the goals that we have if we were all
03:37:02.980not anonymous because being anonymous it it really does like um you know it like makes it so that you
03:37:15.320can be split right and if you can be split that does that does give the the regime power because
03:37:25.860as you just said it makes it so that you think and i completely experienced this once i came out
03:37:32.500i realized that the things that like i thought people cared about were not really the things
03:37:39.900like those weren't the things that really upset other people as much as you would think right
03:37:44.600um and so i do think that like in the long run uh you know it's i think that the the the trajectory
03:37:55.560of an anon and so ho this is how we should finish because we were going to talk about this anyway
03:37:59.560we saw that soul bra uh posted his face right and bap posted his face recently more and like
03:38:09.760you know we see these guys coming out of the shadows i think that that should be the trajectory
03:38:16.520it should be like you're an anon you're experimenting you're this primordial thing
03:38:21.220you reach this certain level and then ultimately it becomes your responsibility once you're big
03:38:27.580enough you gotta like embody yourself you know well that's a good point leader you know you
03:38:32.780gotta become a real leader and a real artist and and kind of like take that step but i don't know
03:38:36.800i mean i'm i i i totally respect the annons i'm not saying that everybody should do that i guess
03:38:41.520i'm just trying to like what do you make of this uh face i agree completely and also with a uh
03:38:47.100character like sobra you know as much as you might like his writing or what he stands for
03:38:53.560it does hurt the cause if it turns out that he's a short fat guy yeah right right exactly so if you
03:38:59.780see so about oh this guy he's fit he looks you know he looks like he embodies what he talks about
03:39:04.780uh same thing with uh bap you know i think he he docks himself and he's not a fucking short fat
03:39:10.560ugly guy because that would that would actually hurt for a lot of people even though they wouldn't
03:39:14.860admit that would hurt it and you know as much as people don't want to say you can tell a lot about
03:39:19.720the person by how they dress how they carry themselves so if you agree with someone and
03:39:24.980they just dress and look like shit it's like oh you know can i trust what they said it sounds
03:39:30.100unfair but that's how the world works so and also their identity matters right i think that bap being
03:39:37.580jewish was actually really harmful to to his i think it made him look pretty ridiculous you know
03:39:46.360what i mean like i i don't i'm a complete bap enthusiast and i completely am like you know on
03:39:53.640his side and i i support everything he does and i you know i don't give a shit that he's jewish at
03:39:59.300all but i think that that griper attack on him was effective you know yeah also if so much of
03:40:06.480the imagery is at least dog whistling, like Aryan Superman, if it turns out you're Jewish,
03:40:12.000like, well, that's that you're making it easy at that. Exactly. It's like, it's like, I was so
03:40:17.220certain he wasn't. And then when that came out, it was kind of like, whoa, you know, like, it's
03:40:22.560fine. It's, it's not a, I mean, that's, that's been, you know, I'm, I'm Jewish. I'm my mom's
03:40:27.600Jewish. I'm a Michelin, but I'm, you know, I'm, I consider myself Jewish. And when I first got
03:40:36.140into this world I was so afraid of telling people you know because I didn't want to be judged and I
03:40:42.900didn't you know I didn't want to immediately be dismissed right but then I realized no you know
03:40:47.820what like if I'm gonna fucking do this I have to own that part of it too you know I have to say
03:40:54.220all right well I'm not gonna lie to you you know what I mean like I'm not gonna pretend like I'm
03:40:59.440not you know yeah it's the lie that creates the shame that people sort of latch on to um and
03:41:06.160that's why i try and be open about you know ourselves as much as we can um for the fact
03:41:11.680like i'm half ukrainian and so a lot of people dirty bastards that's saying for like a for like
03:41:17.020a full two three years everyone's like i hope all ukrainians i'm like okay well i i hear you
03:41:22.800but it is what i am and i'm half anglo and so we got a lot of nationalists who are european
03:41:28.080and a lot of them you know even though the european hate anglos hate the british and so i'm
03:41:33.200getting it from fucking both directions but you know if you just lie about who you are or what
03:41:38.360you've done you create the shame and that's what people kind of latch on to and also latch on to
03:41:42.820the shame what you're talking about before is interesting like the entire idea of having an
03:41:48.100anon space in your real life space and you putting all the things you truly believe into this anon
03:41:53.900zone you almost bifurcate your personality and you admit to yourself that this stuff over here
03:41:59.800is bad and if it ever it's like having a reverse go bag where if the heat ever comes on i can cut
03:42:05.300out that part of my personality entirely when it should be fully integrated into your being and live
03:42:12.040and just like working in these offices where you need to lie you know even back when i was like a
03:42:17.000trump guy right when he was first like i remember walking into the place i was working after trump
03:42:22.180was elected and just everyone hated trump and i was the bad guy for like smiling but it's like
03:42:28.620you need to if you're not this will sound bullshit but if you're not living your truth if you're not
03:42:34.280being true to yourself and open like it rots your fucking soul eventually and not right away but 10
03:42:40.260years on you'll be like why do i feel like i want to blow my fucking brains out it's because i spend
03:42:45.260most of my day like lying about the fundamental things i believe in and creating this alternate
03:42:51.380Because also in this, you have like a third personality, which is your work personality, which is I need to talk to the lady who sits beside me and pretend I'm interested in her true crime podcast.