00:18:08.080headline say I don't think we covered this did we
00:18:10.240yes some children may have died from covet shots yes some children may have died from covet shots
00:18:19.000don't you just love that you know what i mean like that tone already like they're yada yada yada
00:18:25.560they're eye rolling okay some children died i can't imagine as extreme a right-wingist as i am
00:18:34.820i can't imagine myself ever rolling my eyes going okay look some children some kids died all right
00:18:39.760i'm fine here's what i love this line here denial only serves the aims of anti-vaxxers
00:18:47.360and you know it made me think of um i think it might have been ted i was talking to recently
00:18:55.180ted lafaro and we're talking about alex carp and palantir who works in pure teal and palantir
00:19:02.740and um he was talking about how they're anti-communist and they say their stated goal
00:19:11.160is to rip out communism from its roots but then uh he had pointed out ted uh and i i remember
00:19:19.520seeing this i'd forgotten about we even covered it on the show but i'd forgotten about it he said
00:19:23.560that they were both alice cup specifically was boasting maybe last year two years ago about how
00:19:28.400they were singularly responsible for stopping the rise of far right extremism in europe
00:19:33.720and handicapping those parties whatever the parties might be and so it's got me thinking
00:19:41.460and i don't know if i fully believe this but i think there's something to it where do you people
00:19:47.100even dislike communism ideologically or do you dislike it socially whatever or do you just find
00:19:55.360it inconvenient because it proves right wingers correct meaning do you see right wing extremists
00:20:02.140as your true enemy the worst enemy and you find communists as they've been granted more power
00:20:09.580and influence simply serve to prove the right wingers right which you can't have so we need to
00:20:15.680it's kind of like when they admit that replacement migration is happening right they will admit it
00:20:21.580only because it validates us which they can't have so even as they're adopting our talking
00:20:28.960points they're doing it in the interest of needing to destroy us even more so i was like yes children
00:20:35.880may have died in covid shots we need to admit that because denying it helps the people who said that
00:20:41.640children would die from it and to them that's perfect that's that's completely consistent
00:20:47.600There's something troubling and telling in the fact that his memo had provoked people to deny that even the possibility of COVID vaccine-related deaths.
00:20:56.080The idea that mRNA-based shots have tragically killed a very small number of children is not far-fetched.
01:04:04.880don't want to make what's to be i guess status is to be gained but if you're paying attention0.99
01:04:10.720you can game this out so easily like we've been here before what's going to happen the same shit's
01:04:17.680going to happen and i'm not i'm not making deals with any of these people not as if they're asking
01:04:21.960me to make a deal if not if anyone wants anything to do with us or this show but really it doesn't
01:04:29.580seem pathetic doesn't it seem this is what we're talking about on the live stream of people who are
01:04:34.680saying like well you got to pick a side you must be pragmatic you're gonna need to who who's your0.97
01:04:40.140daddy you need to find a daddy no you can't advocate for yourself you have to pick one of
01:04:44.300the two largest sides and advocate for them and now now where are we all all your favorite0.99
01:04:49.740revolutionary hitler rapists are telling you to do this racism just stop talking about jews0.88
01:04:58.760talking about race you know what but what you should be vocal about is wars for oil0.97
01:05:04.760we should be at turbo america we're gonna we're gonna invade venezuela for no apparent reason
01:05:12.800then cuba you why not canada and greenland too hell yeah america number one but1.00
01:05:18.060quiet on the racism though be nice to women
01:05:20.620you know as we're discussing this it triggers a memory of something i read earlier
01:05:28.840and this would have been a post on x sometime this week and it was referencing steve sailor
01:05:35.320and something that he was proposing at some point in the past and i'm familiar with steve
01:05:40.660sailor's work but i wasn't familiar with this argument but what he was saying and i'm paraphrasing
01:05:45.860here, is that as you integrate these groups, South Americans, or any group really, but in this
01:05:53.200instance, South Americans, you will adopt their politics or their approach to politics. What's
01:06:00.640interesting is, if you listen to leftists in South America, or even here, they'll say that
01:06:07.660South America is a fully intermixed society, they've been intermarrying for so long that
01:06:15.040they're just brown people and if you have any experience with south americans you will know
01:06:20.120that this is not the case and i wouldn't describe it as a caste-based society but there's very
01:06:28.500clearly ethnic strata in these societies in venezuela in brazil and elsewhere where you've
01:06:35.120got a lot of the more indigenous darker people at the bottom and at the top you have their
01:06:40.780let's call it brahmin caste of very light-skinned arguably very european looking people and what0.99
01:06:50.180you find is that they're far more open about the ethnic tension in their society they permit0.92
01:06:57.740themselves to be more racist and as you begin integrating these people you will allow them0.94
01:07:05.120to say the quiet part out loud that's why there's so many hispanic nazis and you look at what's0.81
01:07:12.940being proposed here which is that you know to be a true aristocratic racist to be truly right-wing
01:07:21.260you must be silent you must be passive aggressive it must be implied but you're bringing all these
01:07:27.120people that have no problem with advocating for these positions but doing it loudly while maybe
01:07:34.260not consciously but the effect is that it boxes out the actual white people who have now adopted
01:07:40.820the position that to be truly white is to be silent the most white european thing you can do
01:07:49.740is hold your beliefs secretly and then you've got these other people who are just broadcasting these
01:07:54.740ideas but they're doing it from a different position from a different power structure
01:07:59.800And to me, I think it's a prey position.
01:08:04.420I always like that term, you know, trying to make the weakest and most timid point, the most timid set of behaviors be the most intelligent.
01:08:17.520And this will sound like your standard low IQ anti-Semitism.0.97
01:08:24.140But as I said before, I am the whole ass bell curve of anti-Semitism.0.99
01:08:29.800I just think that's adopting a Jewish frame. I think it's important to speak the truth. Why are these people allowed to speak the truth? And you have just adopted the position that speaking the truth, it's weak, it's low IQ, it's base, it's peasant behavior.1.00
02:28:42.120He's an old conservative type, but he's very, very online.
02:28:44.700And so he's very easy to bait unless you're outwardly offensive or just throwing slurs around, but you can get him to engage with you. And he's really taken a stand. Because right now, if you go back, let's say a year, the topic of re-migration is being ignored by everyone in the press, by the entire political class, by the business class, by everyone.
02:29:03.980And you saw a shift within the last, what, seven months, let's say, where it's in the discourse right now.
02:29:12.280And there's a lot of pushback against it, but it's very weak pushback.
02:29:16.420I'm amazed at how limp-wristed and, in effect, this sort of pushback is.1.00
02:34:01.020um yeah once course the emperor comes back in now he's dealing with his microphone yeah the
02:34:06.240thing about i mean i can understand this with the boomers saying that they liked it when it was like1.00
02:34:10.80010 years ago the thing is that there's there are so many indians that if you let them in they will1.00
02:34:17.740just swamp out every other ethnicity and it will become you know delhi 2.0 and the indians like it1.00
02:34:28.400they like the crowdedness they like being surrounded by this press of warm indian bodies
02:34:34.160like it it gives them a sense of security this was the description of the ship and camp of the saints
02:34:39.480if anyone's read that i did a review of that with a good friend t.r hudson and just to go back to
02:34:44.280the main question about these liberals who say things like this i'm at a point in my life where
02:34:50.520it's like speaking to someone with alzheimer's like you you know that didn't happen you're in
02:34:55.180of fantasy world you're like i used to love walking down the street and see those people0.99
02:34:58.340you didn't do that bitch you didn't know no woman no one no one did that they didn't go down like0.95
02:35:03.540the first 15 minutes of who framed roger rabbit and here's all the colorful people it's like that0.99
02:35:07.920was never you it was always a hypothetical it was always sort of an abstract concept you could call
02:35:13.140back to that you become convinced were real but you lived in most likely an all-white neighborhood0.98
02:35:17.660in a gated community none of your friends are haitian shut the fuck up you've never met a0.98
02:35:23.040career like so i also feel like their basic inability to do math their basic inability to0.97
02:35:31.800just comprehend like there's this famous example where a guy's up on stage and he's got all these0.99
02:35:37.680gumballs and glass cylinders and he's like look if you took this many refugees in and he you know
02:35:43.840he drops like gumballs representing a million oh yes and then the entire table is still filled1.00
02:35:49.880with these huge cylinders of gumballs like there's like simple explanation these people
02:35:56.580cannot comprehend basic mathematics and this is like guy on the street like you know how many
02:36:04.120people are on earth and the right answer is i don't like nine billion or something like that
02:36:07.900and and then like you know how many how many europeans are there how many africans are there0.87
02:36:13.940how many black africans are there how many indians people have no company like the the man on this
02:36:19.520street and this is a failure of basic education as well as a few other things but if you have like0.97
02:36:24.520no clue that there are you know i'll say 35 million like you know real canadians and then
02:36:33.060like a billion point three indians and to understand like what that means you know and
02:36:42.460and that that with air travel and whatever like people completely fail the basic understanding
02:36:48.660of this and that's why we're in a pickle well and this is what i was saying was so frustrating because
02:36:52.900i was discussing this with black pilled who i spoke with on my show quite a few weeks ago and
02:36:58.980some people have pushed back on this sentiment where i had said look i understand that there's
02:37:04.580a certain segment of the population i don't know what percentage it would be but it's sizable that
02:37:10.020are what we would call npcs i don't love that term but people who are not the shape rotators people
02:37:15.700who are essentially you know perhaps left side of the bell curve distribution types but they're
02:37:20.980people who struggle to think critically rationally but who cares right you don't need to be so
02:37:28.100self-aware all the time we need people like that but the problem is that i find it very difficult
02:37:33.700to engage with those people that we're describing like the liberal that you don't really believe
02:37:38.340what you're saying you don't understand what you're saying you're just saying it but then
02:37:42.260you'll get very you'll still attempt to silence me to persecute me and i gave the example of0.92
02:37:47.060we've seen this before the the father the mother white whose daughter was brutalized by some black0.89
02:37:55.220gang and they're the first to forgive the gang they're the first to make a big performance0.59
02:38:00.500of how i'm i'm the least racist person that you know and of course there's some
02:38:06.340state actors that get involved and convince them to do that but i'd give an example of
02:38:10.820that individual or i said i don't i understand the agency argument i understand look these are
02:38:16.100our people we should have love for people no matter what but i don't know what to do with
02:38:20.020someone like that i don't know for the the person we're describing who just is angry about a feeling
02:38:27.620and it has you can't reason with them you can't talk to them but that doesn't stop them from
02:38:33.060trying to destroy you and your livelihood and everything about you and they'll feel good about
02:38:38.020they think it's funny they think it's funny that Derek Chauvin went to prison and they speculate0.98
02:38:43.700about how he's being raped by black guys that's who this person is the bloodlust they seem to feel0.91
02:38:50.240when it comes to people like you like us being persecuted they think it's delightful I don't0.99
02:38:54.800know what to do with someone like that I don't know how many people there's a lot of those0.99
02:38:58.580dimes also alternatively I'm gonna quote you Woes because I think that this is profound to the point0.99
02:39:04.380that it's being advertised on like third party t-shirt shops um which is it's amazing how much
02:39:13.100leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things thus making discourse impossible
02:39:18.780there's a lot of these libs who are now pretending not to understand what's going on
02:39:26.140not to understand what you're talking about well i i didn't i didn't mean this i didn't want this
02:39:31.660or they always ask you what do you mean by that i don't understand that term it's like
02:39:35.660are you a two-year-old no they know but i know they know yeah they they play the uh you know
02:39:42.860like like they're a small child they don't understand dimes brought this up a while back
02:39:47.500which is like they will admit a problem when they think or when it appears to be too late
02:39:53.340and they'll be like oh oh no yeah oh i'm sorry it's too late now i guess we're just gonna have
02:39:58.540The line was that by the time the average liberal admits that something that they did might have been incorrect, the Titanic has already hit the iceberg and the rats have already fled.0.80
02:40:08.540It's like they're admitting now that mass migration might be a problem when you're dealing with Somalis owning Minnesota.0.93
02:40:15.360This is something that I've been kicking around with for a while. And it's that human beings, like, you know, like, regardless of, regardless of who they are, we don't anticipate a problem, organize a deal with it.0.95
02:40:31.420what humanity does is we hit the problem full speed and then deal with it after the fact and
02:40:38.880the the few like great civilizations that were able to endure kind of did anticipate problems
02:40:45.520and did deal with it but for the most part we react to problems rather than anticipating them
02:40:54.760and and and having some forethought and planning and i'll say one group of people that's very
02:41:00.800successful at anticipating a problem and seeing things coming or whatever now and they're kind of
02:41:06.120making a tour de force of it are like China and and these you know these non-democratic countries0.51
02:41:12.580they're able to anticipate a problem plan for it and we just are bonking into things and then
02:41:19.320dealing with it after the fact like what even is the justification for mass immigration at this
02:41:24.640point because I remember 10 years ago when Justin Trudeau was elected um they were saying oh
02:41:30.240it's going to be can't i remember hearing the word the phrase on the radio oh super diversity
02:41:35.360it's going to be super diversity not just diversity anymore it's going to be so diverse
02:41:39.480that there's not even going to be any recognizable and this was like being said as something that
02:41:43.500as if it were positive and i remember a couple years ago yeah a couple years ago it was then
02:41:49.620oh well we need it for the economy i mean are they even making that argument anymore because
02:41:53.500obviously it hasn't been in the economy what's the argument for it i can't give you one down
02:41:58.440your throat that's all i'm going to give you one argument is the argument is you're racist
02:42:02.440at this yeah that's a white guy the economic argument is over it's there there's no western0.57
02:42:09.380nation where um mass immigration and diversity has helped the gdp like name one and all the
02:42:16.380nations that are doing very well while they may have inherently come into the game as being
02:42:21.100somewhat diverse like iran or something like that you know they are successful they're unified
02:42:28.660and it kind of has a little bit to do like they can be like somewhat diverse but it has to have
02:42:34.780a long history of integration the groups have to understand each other when you do bam smash
02:42:41.580ideological twitch diversity you're you're it's not going to work and and like can anybody name
02:42:48.060an example that of a diverse nation that's that's been uh that's greatly benefited and has has gone
02:42:56.360up in the international rankings as canada plunges from like you know g7 to like g50
02:43:03.520i can give you the best example i've seen hold on hold on let's just try there hold on hold on
02:43:11.120everyone everyone hold on a minute just want to try the course of empire's microphone because
02:43:15.500the let's see if i can solve this problem um because he's been trying for some time
02:43:22.300um all right john carter you go well of course vampire tries that all right i was just gonna
02:43:28.060say like you know uh 100 200 years ago there are a lot of countries in africa whose um standard of
02:43:34.620living and gdp and such were all dramatically improved by relatively small amounts of european
02:43:42.700immigration uh so you know there are forms of immigration which are actually very positive
02:43:47.260for countries that's the type of immigration if that's what i was gonna say yeah um you're not
02:43:52.620bringing a bunch of somalis back then or a bunch of uh subcontinentals you're bringing in europeans
02:43:58.940people that are very similar to you often very like effectively the same you know not mass
02:44:05.180immigration though like no but even mass immigration but it was still the same kind of people who could
02:44:10.940integrate more effectively yeah this was the story that we covered in that uh video paving
02:44:15.980over the public that it started off with either eastern european or broadly european immigration
02:44:21.500which was still unpopular in canada at the time but the and i actually have heard an argument
02:44:28.460and the reason i bring this up is because this is an argument you're going to hear
02:44:32.300made by the mainstream institutions within the next 10 or 20 years is this book called maximum
02:44:37.660canada i know fortis x you're going to find this interesting we did a whole arc recently going into
02:44:42.060canadian history and i wanted to hear the argument that this book was making for why canada should
02:44:48.460have a hundred million people by like 2100 something some something that sounds further
02:44:54.300off than it is how about a hundred million canadians well he and this is when we cover
02:45:01.740on the show i'm going to go into detail there but um he does make an interesting point the argument
02:45:07.020is that canada and some people will see this as a feature rather than the bug canada had a very
02:45:12.860exclusionary immigration policy even towards europeans that prioritized an agrarian and
02:45:18.780resource extraction economy so we wanted farmers we wanted peasants we had a hard time keeping
02:45:24.620entrepreneurs keeping tycoons and the census data indicates that they all just went to america
02:45:29.660which is actually you know if you're someone my age like that's the story of your life how many
02:45:33.980people went to america to get into tech to get into finance to get into whatever for it's very
02:45:40.500difficult to do that up here so he was trying to make the case that due to the land mass we need
02:45:45.320a system that can maintain entrepreneurs and not just prioritize basically even call them peasants
02:45:52.760but i said you know what that's interesting i never heard that that dimes that actually goes
02:45:57.680back a long way i was just reading um recently this uh this essay by a historian at um oh where
02:46:07.600is it mount allison i think uh talking about the um the early like uel's like sort of bishop
02:46:14.960strachan and those guys in the very very early 19th century and they like the family compact
02:46:21.520were explicitly favoring an agrarian model of economic development and rejecting a more
02:46:29.640industrial model because basically they were concerned that the kind of traditionalist
02:46:35.780society that they were trying to establish would not be compatible with a more industrial kind of
02:46:45.780economy um which you know and as i was reading that i was thinking to myself like you know that
02:46:52.040that that pattern they established really in a lot of ways kind of has continued um
02:46:57.200not necessarily just like just in the way of uh of emphasizing agrarian development over
02:47:06.520over heavy industry yeah just like we've never really we kind of drive our innovators away
02:47:12.460you know we kind of break the companies that they start and what's interesting is canada's
02:47:17.240down to america do it there you know don't don't bother us i just learned apparently it's pronounced
02:47:24.620strong i mean you're you're scottish drawn okay yeah that makes sense he was scottish
02:47:29.500okay what was can you confirm that is it strong i don't know how to spell the word that you're
02:47:36.360talking about so i i don't know which word it is let's go see this is what makes canada such
02:47:40.680a fascinating country because despite that and i do believe that to be true everything john was
02:47:44.440saying we do have such a robust history of r d and engineering and new media and technological
02:47:52.600development we have we're way more on the cutting edge of new media development than we have any
02:47:57.160business being given we are absolutely yeah if i could hop in there and just just just extol
02:48:02.680canadian technology and uh what we used to be for a while after the second world war we were one of
02:48:08.760the greatest navies on earth we had uh we were a big part of the space program uh we were developing
02:48:15.160fighter jets we were a tech superpower a natural resource superpower uh like i i could just go on
02:48:22.440like this country oh we are the can-do reactor was basically like a design fail-safe nuclear reactor
02:48:28.600that could be kind of produced around the world like it's we're a lot like like the ancient romans
02:48:33.320and that we keep coming up with like these like early or the greeks you know we keep coming to
02:48:36.360those great technological ideas and then doing absolutely nothing with them but we did give
02:48:43.280india the candy a reactor so they could develop nuclear weapons that was a positive thing right0.60
02:48:47.260yeah but where are you there are nuclear weapons god damn it the hope was that they would develop
02:48:52.640sanitation yeah that never worked out that's insane and just to bring it back to can we say0.71
02:48:59.060all this and this is why i'm always optimistic about canada because once you read the history
02:49:03.980Once you understand where we've been, what we've done, despite where we are now, there's so much opportunity here.
02:49:09.940There's so much great human capital that has formed the base of this nation that I think, even though we would call ourselves siblings with Australia and New Zealand and many others, I do think it's distinct.
02:49:22.040And I think I'm optimistic about the future.
02:49:24.720I don't think we need 100 million people in Canada.
02:49:27.760I was giving that as an example of something you might hear.
02:54:08.260Well, they just show up and immediately demand that Canada be run for their benefit, even if they have no legal document to be in the country.
02:54:15.800So it could be like some guy who was some foreign student who got in fraudulently and then his visa expired.
02:54:22.300And then they're out there demanding that Canada be run for their benefit, even though they don't even have the legal right to reside in the country.0.73
02:54:28.940And there's more members of parliament in Canada than there are in India.0.88
02:54:33.100I mean, yes, 22 Sikh MPs in the federal parliament compared to 12.
02:54:37.440I think what's so disheartening to individuals like those on the panel here is that for the longest time, this went without saying.
02:54:44.180if you talk to your ancestors and describe the situation it would seem absurd you shouldn't need1.00
02:54:48.980to explain why it's bad that this is happening that there's calistanis agitating for political
02:54:55.140change using canada as a launch pad for their political change back home but for people like1.00
02:55:00.340us that's why i guess we get a disheartening black belt the only the good news is that indians
02:55:07.540tend to be smarter than africans but not by much you got guys showing up and they get a google0.87
02:55:13.780ad certificate and they think that means they're a citizen so they they've overshot it like i've1.00
02:55:18.900never seen any group do before you didn't see this with the chinese they're a lot more subversive and0.96
02:55:24.660sneaky about it quiet and they have four prs they'll just go out on on twitter and say we're1.00
02:55:32.100taking your country f you go to hell it's ours now they would they'll make this like they made
02:55:38.820this movie about uh the coma god of maru so like this incident when when back in 1914 canada0.96
02:55:45.940prevented this ship full of um of Sikhs from landing in british columbia and these Sikhs in
02:55:52.080canada they made a movie glorifying the murder of a uh of a canadian official and they'll just like0.86
02:55:58.660they'll just make this stuff so brazenly they had this music video of this Sikh guy punching
02:56:03.960a punching a white guy uh and their their pr is horrible i mean not to mention endeavor endeavor0.74
02:56:10.960that's that's like a that's like a like a couple pages in a grade school like a maybe junior high
02:56:18.360tech like the komagatu maru is a symbol that's in like every canadian textbook right like you
02:56:26.280the eighth grade or something like that like that is the education that that that young people
02:56:33.860are receiving that they don't know they they don't know the first thing about canadian history oh but
02:56:41.080they do know about the kamagata maru they know about residential schools it's just it's just
02:56:46.420the only thing that anyone could know is just how racist we were like an indian guy who got here
02:56:51.820five minutes ago going well well this is stolen land and it's supposed to be a fresh start like
02:56:57.140Like North America is supposed to be like a more or less fresh start where these tribal rivalries and whatever are kind of like left behind.
02:57:06.360And like, you know, like, like, are we the new world or not?
02:57:10.380And it seems like that, that sort of that perception that there might be a fresh start here where we truly can, you know, leave things behind.
02:57:24.100john john carter and the course of empire both wanted to say something so course of empire go
02:57:30.100oh i think i lost my train of thought sorry oh yeah i know what it was it was uh that uh just
02:57:35.840that that when that ship came in uh all three governments the british government the colonial
02:57:41.100government in india as well as the canadian government had told them don't come do not come
02:57:46.060do not do you not go to canada they went anyways it was totally blatant totally illegal and yet
02:57:52.540it's hailed in the textbooks in your local canadian classroom of how wonderful it is and how the evil
02:57:59.680white man was trying to prevent them and it's like but it was illegal everybody knew it was illegal0.98
02:58:04.180everybody agreed this was illegal except for the indians who apparently figured that they could do0.97
02:58:07.900whatever they want which is kind of the mentality that they still have it's like yeah of course we0.98
02:58:12.840have a right here to come here we can come here in 50 you know 50 million of us why not it's our
02:58:17.520place you know and you give it to us you just give us whatever you want you know uh whatever
02:58:22.700we want i should say uh and that that is very much the mentality and they will swarm you if
02:58:27.440you disagree i've had that more than once it's never i never get that from anybody else to the
02:58:32.120same uh degree when i've done things online um as i have had from uh indians it's kind of like
02:58:37.920the barry stanton thing that happened last year or on x it's just indeed they will swarm you0.98
02:58:43.540nobody else swarms you like that you won't get from any other ethnic group like that they and0.98
02:58:49.060so it's the sheer volumes of them as well as the ethnocentrism oh yeah numbers of them available1.00
02:58:55.000to take part in something like that and they always resort to the most graphic and disgusting0.95
02:59:00.000sexual statements again how about your family members is like what the heck your mom only fans
02:59:08.580yeah it's like they repeat this they've got and here's the thing they've got nothing else and most
02:59:14.140of it is also a projection yes yeah yeah yeah very obviously well i mean they also just come0.64
02:59:21.000up with the most ridiculous lies like i remember a guy telling me that indians had been in britain
02:59:27.280longer than italians had been in america no really even though america is named after americo vaspucci0.92
02:59:34.100and like the and the and the uh the evidence he came out up with was well there was not an
02:59:40.820italian community in america until the 19th century but indians went to britain in the
02:59:47.38017th you know what you got to give them credit because they've really assimilated if that's the
02:59:51.780case because they're really taking their cues from african-americans where you can just make
02:59:56.580up your own history yeah well they use that black hebrew israelite thing which you know i mean like
03:00:03.780the africans did not even have the conception of a history um until
03:00:10.420they still largely don't really uh but at least they were in a literate oral culture the indians
03:00:15.700don't even have that excuse i mean they've had literacy for like a few thousand years
03:00:19.380and they didn't figure out historiography until the british sort of forcefully explained it to
03:00:24.260them in the 19th century how long until they start claiming that indians have been in north america
03:00:31.140longer than europeans because the europeans used to call the uh the indigenous i was just knowing
03:00:37.380that it's not it's not that far off because what's interesting is if you follow their train of
03:00:41.940thought they're gonna say they're they have a right to be in canada uh because one either because of
03:00:48.500of the kamigata maru they lie they they the exact number that you hear repeatedly is well we've been
03:00:54.840in canada for 100 years we fought in the canadian army it's like well no you didn't your original
03:00:59.740argument was we fought in the british the british expeditionary force therefore because canada is a
03:01:06.500commonwealth country we have a right to settle your lands we fought and bled for the empire
03:01:11.120therefore we're just as canadian or just as imperial as you and then when you break it down
03:01:16.240further it's like okay out of the like one million men who served there was approximately like 200
03:01:24.200or like 10 or 20 seeks or nine nine or nine it wasn't even that many was nine yeah exactly it
03:01:30.740is this meme it is begging for acceptance versus delusional gloating and it's all because of izot
03:01:36.460right it's all because they have to save face so they it doesn't matter how absurd or nonsensical
03:01:43.500the insult is they just have to throw something back they can't admit the fault and this is what
03:01:47.740contributed and i think 2025 might have been the final year of discourse there is no purpose to
03:01:53.740discourse and it's been that way for quite some time but what do you do to engage with that type
03:01:58.920of person you're going to use logic and reason are you going to cite history and facts they don't0.58
03:02:03.880fucking care even if you i don't think you should either i don't think you should because that's0.92
03:02:08.740playing their game we should just be saying look you don't belong here that's the end i don't give0.99
03:02:13.860a fuck how long you've been here or versus some other group you don't integrate you're not us you0.97
03:02:19.840don't belong here anything else is is kowtowing to well that that can be couched in very reasonable1.00
03:02:28.500language like people have to give consent right and accepting mass immigration unending mass
03:02:36.220immigration and with you know sort of low entry standards that was never consented to even in
03:02:42.300canada which is one of the most socially engineered countries in the world okay so they do this to
03:02:48.240like denmark and other countries and if you pull them they're like no no we don't really want it
03:02:53.060or you know actually the population has been tried we actually tried the consent meme back in like
03:02:59.1602015 2016 yeah the uh european uh migrant crisis like there was like a memes kicking around of
03:03:08.800like you know showing europe as this sort of uh hot blonde woman getting uh sexually yeah
03:03:16.660i don't consent you know and like i was actually in europe in 2015 going south into the balkans
03:03:25.280while the immigrants are coming up and i i like i saw firsthand the 2015 uh merkel wave or whatever
03:03:31.920like i was there and it was it was really interesting but i but i i must say like that is
03:03:37.560like that is like the you know the the legalistic sort of neutral argument against this mass
03:03:44.060immigration is to be like look we never gave consent to it and that that's like the the this
03:03:49.000you know the proper way to to argue against mass immigration now every other idea said here
03:03:57.100is true but if you really wanted to make a case against it be like look we didn't consent to we
03:04:04.120were repeatedly lied to we always voted against it and i know that's been said before but that
03:04:08.560that is still like the the baseline argument and that's what i like about the remigration
03:04:15.300trend we're seeing right now because you can obviously make an ethno nationalist case for it
03:04:20.340and many do but you can make a civic nationalist case for it maybe even an easier civic nationalist
03:04:25.760case for it so it can hit on a lot of different sectors simultaneously which is why i think it's
03:04:31.680so popular one thing that i wanted to i wanted to mention earlier just kind of point out is
03:04:38.520These things are hard to prove, but it does kind of seem like it wasn't until the Canadians started going hard on the Indians over the last year or so that Indian hate kind of exploded across the internet.
03:05:02.440you know we did it i've had some leftist acquaintances in the past i'm like listen
03:05:19.960uh or or even just european friends i'm like listen nobody hates indians more than canadians
03:05:25.000like you don't understand the the visceral bile that comes out of the canadian when faced with
03:05:32.040this situation it's like european gypsies no because like everyone else everyone else was
03:05:36.680getting uh i think like relatively high quality indians like even even uh britain um and certainly
03:05:44.920the us like you know like tech workers and whatever uh and yeah as we've all discovered1.00
03:05:50.120like a lot of them they're all very they're scammy and like their qualifications are nonsense
03:05:55.240and all of that we all get that but like we were the first i think anglosphere country to start0.99
03:06:00.760mass importing like illiterate gujaratis by like the 747 load uh just 24 7 just like a content0.68
03:06:11.640just like packing our cities with them and to the point that we were all like wow these guys0.88
03:06:15.640are actually awful they're awful i'd like to just push back on that a little bit because we're kind
03:06:22.280of playing into the hands when we just we're you know when we're making kind of like the lowbrow
03:06:27.000argument and and i would just like to just relay an anecdotal story and um i have
03:06:33.080priors listen my my not racist and yeah even recently i think it was about i think it was
03:06:40.520about six years ago um i took in an indian guy as a roommate he was from brampton and um
03:06:47.400he was born and raised in canada okay but he had an accent and he and he and and he spoke um
03:06:57.240and he's and and when he had his indian friends over he would speak in in in you know indian hindi
03:07:03.700whatever or uh like in front of us and even though he was born and raised in canada he was
03:07:11.600had culturally basically he knew dick about canadian culture this guy and this is a guy in
03:07:18.120like in his 30s he didn't know any we didn't have and i was really open-minded and we didn't have
03:07:23.840very many cultural reference points as he he seemed to really like drake and rap and like
03:07:29.120low american culture stuff and and i lived with this guy for for quite a while i kind of stuck
03:07:33.920him with the rent while I went to Asia. Um, and, um, so, you know, it was nice to have him look
03:07:41.980after the place, um, when it was minus 40, but, um, but I just found like my sense of it was that
03:07:50.560this guy's from a civilization that's its own full package. And even though he was born and
03:07:57.940raised in canada he it just didn't seem like he would ever assimilate had no interest he treated
03:08:05.560canada as like an oddest oddity as though he was a tourist of the country but he was a full-fledged
03:08:11.740born in canada citizen which was extremely odd and i think that's more often than not the case
03:08:18.800and the problem is that um they're being encouraged to think that way by our institutions
03:08:25.180You know, it's look, I'm not trying to play the noble savage card here, but, you know, a lot of them are told directly by the government of Canada that you should treat Canada just as an economic zone.
03:08:38.800The same reason there's a lot of people who join the military just for the free university.
03:08:42.880It's very self-serving the way they do it.
03:08:44.700So I can fault them and you should, but you should also fault the various NGOs and the politicians and the system itself for reaching out to them in many instances and dragging them over here and being complicit in bringing them over here.
03:09:00.480Now, I'm not saying I sympathize with them because you hear that a lot, too.
03:09:03.000Like these people were promised the world and they're here and we owe to them.
03:09:06.440no that's not likely to be to remain closer to their historic people if they create these these
03:09:17.080communities like brampton or surrey british columbia they're just massive numbers of them
03:09:22.920all in one location and then they become you know a self-contained community and they have no0.68
03:09:29.800reason to ever become anything but indian so there's something that i'd like um
03:09:41.560yeah well actually so one one uh thing that soaker city kind of said that i found interesting
03:09:46.360with you know saying how the guy was into drake and stuff which technically is canadian i guess
03:09:50.440but it's like this very sort of toronto toronto sort of like thing right which is kind of its own
03:09:56.600world um and what i kind of thought of when you were talking about that and how this guy like
03:10:01.140didn't know anything about like canada qua canada uh was sort of around i think yeah 2015 when the
03:10:09.600tragically hip who all the canadians will know but everyone else you probably will not have ever
03:10:17.100he wouldn't have he wouldn't have we had like you know i lived with the guy i was trying to talk
03:10:21.640with them and engage with them we had so little to talk yeah yeah i'm sure i'm sure we wouldn't
03:10:26.720have but what i so i was like when they were having their farewell tour because gorge downey
03:10:30.800had like brain cancer uh i was in kingston for like their last ever show um and like you know
03:10:38.080the city was just packed its population like practically doubled um did you actually go to
03:10:42.840that show yeah not i mean i was in the street off not like in the arena but um like it was pretty
03:10:49.080wild party right and uh and i remember like the cbc commentary as it was going on uh like during
03:10:56.800the the live broadcast or whatever and you know one of the uh one of the ditzy the ditzy reporter
03:11:03.120lady is saying how you know it's so wonderful like you know a nation comes together and i'm
03:11:09.780like looking around at the crowd right and i'm like this is the whitest crowd yeah it's the
03:11:16.220it's actually in demographics that went to the trucker protest oh yeah yeah you know even trying
03:11:20.860to say they weren't whiter because you had the occasional like truck driver there and like
03:11:24.700looking around this crowd like the only people who weren't white were like chuck like you know
03:11:28.640chinese girlfriends uh like i actually had that uh a similar experience this summer so i went to a
03:11:37.460rock concert in toronto and i would say that and toronto remind you is about only about 40 percent
03:11:42.800white now it's probably even less at this point but the crowd was probably about 90 percent white
03:11:46.800i would say okay which band though it was three days grace hey no don't even be embarrassed about
03:11:51.840that yeah no i was i was at a metal show a few months ago uh in toronto um just like it like
03:11:58.000lee's palace and uh yeah no there was like one brown girl there who was like you know kind of
03:12:05.680like your your goth brown girl girlfriend type and like other than that like yeah like everyone
03:12:10.320is white is a weird one it does happen sometimes but it's so i view um i view especially hispanics
03:12:17.840like i and other foreigners like even even east asians like whenever it's usually women that's
03:12:22.640number one that i've noticed um it's it's almost like a a striver situation it's almost like an
03:12:28.480upwards mobile thing they seem to be identifying more with that western musical subculture often
03:12:35.760than their than their own country even if they may or may not have what seems to be resentments
03:12:41.120towards the west there's a lot of leftist obviously goth and metal metal girls or whatever
03:12:45.600a lot of them especially if they're foreign or whatever but uh it's a weird thing i've noticed
03:12:49.520but what i was gonna say um and i take credit for pioneering this point because until i started
03:12:55.920saying this i did not see anyone else talk about this and i always push back on the assimilationist
03:13:04.080arguments when they try to say you know especially conservatives and to be fair it's not their fault
03:13:09.520they don't know the the chronology of mass immigration to canada they don't know how long
03:13:13.920and how wrought this this sorry how how long and deep this this rot has manifested
03:13:19.680what people don't understand is that we we haven't assimilated people for 52 years
03:13:25.680with the institution of the 1971 multiculturalism act we effectively banned assimilation
03:13:31.600like we functionally stopped any pretenses um or even attempts to integrate or assimilate
03:13:38.560and the whole idea was that sort of loosey-goosey they would haphazardly assimilate five to six
03:13:43.360generations down the line and for the vast majority of those people it just didn't so that was the
03:13:47.680very beginning of these of the cultural mosaic that was done intentionally where now we have
03:13:52.960these fragmented communities numbering in the hundreds of thousands um so it's it's kind of
03:13:58.080of too late right like we have we have half a century gone we don't have the social institutions
03:14:04.400to assimilate those people um and they're you know two or three generations sometimes four
03:14:09.600down the line they're still not interested in being canadian i recently got into this with uh
03:14:14.400with a guy for a very long time he called himself a fifth generation um indo-canadian fifth generation
03:14:20.320seek and i was like okay disregarding the fact that maybe 0.2 percent of the entire indian
03:14:27.360population comes from that population you're you're basically saying you came with the early
03:14:32.360Sikhs in like 1902 or 1904 or whatever even if that was the case the fact that you're still
03:14:39.580vouching for this kind of dual identity is kind of proof that assimilation doesn't really work
03:14:44.180so it's you you know conservatives well they just need to assimilate well i got bad news for you
03:14:52.160right like that ship has sailed there really is no other choice at this point other than
03:14:57.360you know remigration which is not just mass deportations it's also incentives we'll pay you
03:15:04.320uh i don't know ban halal and kosher food and diets quebec is leading the way on this quebec
03:15:10.800was the only province to push back on the formalization of that 1971 policy which was the
03:15:16.5601988 canadian multiculturalism act which formalized it in federal law made it the
03:15:21.440policy priority of the state and has remained so since that date quebec countered that with the
03:15:26.6401992 quebec canada accord which is not perfect and quebec has its problems and i'm not saying
03:15:33.280that they're expertly assimilating immigrants but they have been dealing with a lot less and they've
03:15:37.920had more of a selection of where they come from which is still not ideal but it's a better hand
03:15:42.800than than what the rest of canada is dealing with yeah kebec kebec remains by far the latest parts
03:15:50.640of canada it's like i think overall it's like 75 it's not it's not it's not the whitest but it is
03:15:57.120it is the most homogenous the most consciously canadian is it not the whitest where no it's
03:16:04.560the maritimes okay yeah fair fair newfoundland newfoundland is like 90 something you brought
03:16:10.800again to correct himself to the canadian pronunciation newfoundland no i'm sorry newfoundland
03:16:15.280Newfoundland we can't look we're all products of our time we're all men of our time so yeah it's
03:16:22.340just it's fascinating right because they are both the most homogeneously uh the most homogenous
03:16:26.980Canadian province they're the second largest and they're the most consciously Canadian and the most
03:16:31.680aggressively defensive of it and the recent and I got a lot of pushback for this a lot of my fans
03:16:36.960were like 40 you can't support this they're taking down crosses they're they're they're gonna they're
03:16:41.980banning bible prayers in schools and i'm just like no no you don't understand you can wear your cross
03:16:46.940underneath your shirt when they're talking about taking getting rid of prayer rooms they're
03:16:51.340specifically targeting muslims right they're they're they're clamping down on on religious
03:16:56.540symbols in the public service what does that mean it means teachers it means cops it means
03:17:01.580firefighters it means people who work at welfare offices it's universities and schools public school0.90
03:17:07.740employee sorry public school employees um banning all of these foreign diets right like these are0.89
03:17:15.100all effective these have all been effective strategies and they're working right because it0.99
03:17:19.900again there's a reason why quebec is not full of indians this seems like a very french strategy
03:17:26.700overall actually because i see very similar things in france itself where they have like burka bands
03:17:33.900or burkini bands on the beaches and and things like that but it also like if i look at france
03:17:41.780it doesn't really seem to be slowing things down all that you need to do more you need to you need
03:17:47.120to cut yeah i think it's a good start and i would not say that that it's a good start i would not
03:17:55.400i would not say that state atheism is obviously solution i would not say that i'd say obviously
03:18:00.220there needs to be a public religion well i think i don't necessarily know the problem is the problem
03:18:07.420isn't even anything to do with like secularism versus religiosity or anything like that in my
03:18:11.740opinion i think the problem is that like um it's it's this insistence on uh the indirect um method
03:18:22.700rather than just like kind of like directly talking about the issue right that's fair you0.99
03:18:28.220can't like just come out and say like listen we literally just do not want foreigners in our public1.00
03:18:32.540service and like we're just not going to allow that sorry uh it's like no no we have to have0.99
03:18:37.020this to invent this universal principle that we're all going to pretend to agree with so
03:18:43.900that just so happens to exclude the thing we don't like instead of just like outright saying
03:18:48.860the thing we don't like okay go i was just going to say there are some differences between quebec
03:18:54.860and france in their in their implementations and their cultures and also their temperaments and for
03:18:58.860one i would say that number one quebec is like five times more ethnocentric than the french are
03:19:07.580um that's number one number two they don't have the same classical liberal foundation as the
03:19:12.700french republic so they're not any any adherence to liberal universalist principles individualism
03:19:21.340and so forth is more recent and more the consequence of its proximity to the english-speaking world
03:19:27.580which is not to say they don't have those ideas themselves organically but it's all exterior or
03:19:32.380it's mostly exterior and it's mostly all new they don't have that 275 290 year i guess it would be
03:19:39.660like 200 260 whatever since the french revolution they don't have that same history they don't have
03:19:44.540have the same um loyalty to the founding principles of the republic and like Quebec until the 60s had
03:19:53.720an ethno-nationalist movement I don't even like using that term I think it's a I think it's
03:19:57.860redundant I think that nationalism by definition includes ethnicities as per Merriam-Webster and
03:20:04.280as for Oxford languages so separating ethnicity from nation I think is disingenuous but for for
03:20:10.040We'll say, you know, Quebec was ethno-nationalist very strongly. The first, you know, modern French Canadian nationalist movement was through people like Lionel Gru and Action Francais, which, you know, was this kind of, we are under demographic threat.
03:20:26.580And then you have the 200-year, 230 years, as Dr. Ricardo de Chien pointed out, where they had the highest birth rates in the entire Western world for like 200 years.
03:20:38.140All to counter what they saw was the demographic threat of Anglo-Saxon North America, right?
03:20:44.100so and and and also worth emphasizing there because i think it's a very interesting point
03:20:49.540about the birth rates that this is these are this is an extremely high birth rate which is being
03:20:54.900sustained in a in a difficult climate shall we say you know uh and and not necessarily in the
03:21:04.180most prosperous part of the western world either uh so you you have all these sort of narratives
03:21:11.060around like oh you know the cost of housing or the economy or what have you and it's like well
03:21:15.640you know rural Quebec was not a super rich place actually through this period and yet
03:21:21.680um it like 14 kids per generation for a couple hundred years yeah and what's interesting about
03:21:30.360that is that um and forgive the history lesson here but I find this stuff deeply fascinating
03:21:35.540um the term canadian was originated by the quebecois like they i think it made foresight
03:21:43.300and of course vampire i know you're into this as well back me up here but i believe it was
03:21:47.380quebec and the french that had initially the very first self-conceptualization as a distinct people
03:21:55.060in what can be now known as canada so i think that birth rate because we've talked about this before
03:22:00.900on different streams everyone has their opinion on it what can reverse the birth rate some people
03:22:05.720think it's economic i think that has limited effect it can have a positive effect but they
03:22:10.700tried this in rome they tried this in japan they tried all over the place it has limited effect um
03:22:15.780it seems that the forces that drive a birth rate up tend not to be materialistic at all
03:22:22.300um one could say they're spiritual but i really do think it has more to do with it's just a side
03:22:28.660effect of a people that have a self-determination and they're excited about the future and that
03:22:33.640might sound reductive or even romantic but I think that that is what it is and so with to explain
03:22:39.100that birthright you had the birth of a new people who were excited about being new people and they
03:22:44.520felt optimistic about the future in that territory maybe even more than their homeland and that's to
03:22:50.380me that's the only way to explain it and so if we're discussing birthright we need to figure out
03:22:54.400to in so many words light that fire again but it's not going to be a policy position necessarily it
03:23:01.920had to be something like uh you know some people are scared but like a new ethnogenesis basically0.83
03:23:07.680well reducing immigration would help because it's been shown to suppress yeah lack of housing0.61
03:23:13.680i would i'd like to jump in there and just say like women want to feel secure the the the main
03:23:19.680you know the the main factor you can attribute a low birth rate to in my opinion is this vancouver
03:23:27.040condo living you know two people living in a 450 foot suicide box you know super urbanite living
03:23:37.600that that that doesn't make babies and um so like the that the housing crisis in canada and it's
03:23:44.160like a full effing crisis you know i've lived in numerous i've lived in across this country and
03:23:51.600it's just ungodly the the housing crisis in in the second largest country in the world which has
03:23:57.520you know millions of acres of billions of acres of of crown land uh it's unforgivable like like1.00
03:24:06.800people are being forced like modernity is one thing but you know at one point like women do0.69
03:24:12.960want to settle down and it's just not on if you're if you're in uh precarious living or condo living
03:24:20.400and these sorts of things so what i'm saying is you know the the immigration issue is related
03:24:27.760directly to the birth rate issue if you have available like if we there's another there's
03:24:33.760another factor where diversity directly affects uh fertility which is um mate mating frequency1.00
03:24:43.520basically so um not to put too fine a point on it but no one likes indian guys white women0.55
03:24:51.760especially uh so if you go out and if they go out into um public places you know bars nightclubs1.00
03:24:59.840and so on and they're swarming with subcontinentals they're they get the ick and so they just stay0.88
03:25:07.020home as a result uh and has anyone noticed has anyone noticed more generally like a nightlife
03:25:14.320has anyone noticed like like john's talking about you know you know when when like ostensibly young
03:25:21.060breeding age people are out and about i just see like kind of like a flat line of of socialization
03:25:28.180i i just don't see like men and women getting together and and living like they did in in in
03:25:33.740previous decades it's totally dead and like you know there's like the the bowling alone
03:25:37.940thesis for roger roger yeah putnam you know right yeah like that's you know it's been
03:25:42.820showing the diversity kind of destroys social capital yeah and like it and it's people stay
03:25:47.880home more um you people generally do prefer to mate uh genetically similar people like0.92
03:25:57.480being similar kind of background and such and there's excellent reasons for that of course
03:26:01.560so if you're in an environment where the frequency of meeting people from your own background is
03:26:06.840relatively low then the chance of meeting someone you click with is going to be that much lower
03:26:11.800basically um it's also the difference with men and women yes yes have moved far more to the left
03:26:19.480universities have basically indoctrinated them so much and there's so many women that go i have
03:26:24.600have no interest in ever having children far more than men i have no interest oh maybe so go to the0.87
03:26:30.000universities and unindoctrinate people and that's that's my that was my millennial
03:26:34.500universities anymore so so actually so speaking of you know universities and0.98
03:26:39.400meet girls at university um so they're there
03:26:42.920you can unmarxist them i just okay one person at a time i just finished reading the new martin
03:26:52.200Sellner's new book, Regime Change from the Right, where he lays out a fairly, a very well thought
03:26:58.300out, very systematic strategy for cultural and political reconquista. And of course, you know,
03:27:05.200he's writing primarily from an Austro-German perspective, but it's quite generalizable.
03:27:12.540uh and one of the things he talks about is the um the utility oh we lost times uh
03:27:21.580where'd times go um the utility of um you just disappeared you'll be i just keep going don't
03:27:30.700worry yeah the uh the utility of like uh setting up like sort of like cultural centers there is
03:27:35.340uh cultural centers or uh uh sort of like um think tank institutes like and like doing that
03:27:42.700like specifically in the near vicinity of uh of universities because there you know you have
03:27:50.380access to like a lot of young people bohemian types and so on and you know one of the things
03:27:55.880that i sort of couldn't help but think of think about as i was reading those parts of the book
03:28:00.360was that this has gotten extremely difficult in Canada
03:28:03.580precisely because of the real estate bubble.
03:28:52.080I was like, ah, this is what I'm missing.
03:28:56.200when i was when i was in st petersburg there was this like um this abandoned military officers
03:29:02.520barracks that was like it was like a four block four city block complex that they just abandoned
03:29:07.820completely and all these hipsters had just like moved into this place like tumbled into it and
03:29:12.060like turned it into like this rabbit warren of like barber shops it's funny and this goes back0.88
03:29:19.140to course of empire's comment about how i do think the one policy position if only in the interest of
03:29:24.840giving ourselves some breathing room because one thing we always talk about is that of this
03:29:29.500affliction known as modernity as many different inputs there's a lot of different problems and
03:29:35.140they're not all there's no one top of the pyramid there's a lot of issues but um the one thing that
03:29:40.840we can address from a policy position is the mass migration problem because once we do that it gives
03:29:46.780us a lot more maneuverability we can solve and we can address every other problem a lot easier and
03:29:52.740this is all in the interest of saying that you know when you're describing belgrade we're
03:29:56.420describing these rs communities i'm thinking of kensington market in toronto yes today yeah
03:30:01.320not recently it's literally just all taco places now it sucks but i'm like you can do that if you0.97
03:30:08.620don't have black and brown people and that might sound like some low iq racism but i gotta see0.97
03:30:15.580nigga i'm the entire bell curve all right so but it is like that's the reason people don't want to0.96
03:30:21.020to detroit detroit would be a perfect place for this thriving art scene but here's the problem1.00
03:30:26.540it's full of black people and then the what the whites quirky artsy people they don't want to go1.00
03:30:32.220there and that's that's we can't do anything about that once i just want to never once called the1.00
03:30:37.260paris of of the us yes i think so yes yeah i just want to interject we've had it we've had a naysayer
03:30:46.860in the comments on rumble and he says uh 2025 saw the birth of the dominion society and second sons
03:30:54.300and we are talking about jeets and how great canada used to be we've all we've already mentioned and
03:31:00.940attributed the mass success of nationalism and why we're all optimistic because of these events
03:31:06.700and how much culture has shifted you think ferryman's not going to get in your face and ask1.00
03:31:12.460you how much you know about america canadian history suck my dick you're talking about two0.99
03:31:17.420groups that very men as we speak right now is doing a rumble stream on the making of canada0.99
03:31:24.540amazing so like also also the commenter i don't know i don't know whether he follows any of us on
03:31:32.700on x or anything but uh i mean everyone here has you know done their bit to promote the hell out of
03:31:40.060of the dominion society and i've i've met i've met ferryman he's actually quite gentle and uh
03:31:46.420yes he seems like a cool guy i've never had the pleasure fairy is no he's great we we love fairy
03:31:51.040we are fairy stands here uh so i just wanted to i wanted to just circle back and also snowball
03:31:56.940into um a bit of a counterpoint because i find that first of all dimes you're you're absolutely
03:32:03.860correct it does seem that paying people to have kids generally does not work however what i guess
03:32:09.140which came out this week there was some evidence that south korea's government paying people the
03:32:13.380equivalent of 23 grand um seems to be paying off i guess they're whatever they're doing over there
03:32:19.700with that money seems to be uh increasing a baby boom i also want to say that in our own canadian
03:32:25.540history when uh samuel de champlain was setting up the colony and his successors um they actually
03:32:34.500paid people when bringing in the not just bringing in the feed the wall but they also paid people to
03:32:38.980have kids um they they gave them money they gave them free land they gave them all of these things
03:32:44.940and that's what actually snowballed into yeah and now there's one more final point which is that
03:32:50.380cities for as long as cities have existed have always had higher populations than the hinterland
03:32:55.740so i'm not sure where cities have low birth rates and and urban environments leads to low birth
03:33:02.320rates comes from when that doesn't seem to be so no no no no no no i think you're mostly wrong
03:33:08.260about that uh the birth rate in urban environments has always been lower right except well i don't
03:33:15.880say let me let me let me qualify but maybe maybe not as like catastrophically maybe not as
03:33:20.920catastrophically low in the 19th century we do have like sort of like a few cases in the u.s
03:33:25.460where like you have like um cities that had uh you know strong ethnic white neighborhoods
03:33:31.440and they do have pretty high birth rates but um we do know like in the roman empire for example
03:33:37.520uh the cities were population six like this has been a general property of them they had a
03:33:45.080a higher population density kind of is the definition of a city but i don't think we had
03:33:50.680more of the population in cities than in urban and rural areas until i want to say like the late
03:33:59.86019th century like with that tipping point yeah that's a good point and just to address before
03:34:04.600we move on because i know some people are going to want to go down that pathway um the south
03:34:08.600korea example that forcex brought up absolutely i it can move the needle and you will see
03:34:12.840improvements because i would love it if we had that i would love it if young people in canada
03:34:18.840we're getting an extra 25 grand ahead per kid you're not going to hear me disparage that but
03:34:25.480the whole argument was long-term but here's the important question that i would like to
03:34:29.160ask people and we don't need an answer to it right now but what is the ideal number of births that
03:34:36.280you want is it just do you want the 100 million or is the implication that we need to increase
03:34:42.360the birth rate to replace the boomers that big very very historically um it was a historical
03:34:48.360aberration that baby boom but it does it's not a given to me that we necessarily need to maintain0.87
03:34:55.160that population maybe the population does drop maybe it needs to drop to reduce the biomass down0.91
03:35:02.680to a core to bottleneck to the people that should grow it again as a sort of eugenic filter that's
03:35:09.160one example anyway the question would be what is the ideal number in canada and also does it need
03:35:15.080to be going up right now or should we separate the wheat from the chap as it were and see that
03:35:21.640as a necessary you know bottleneck that we must travel through anyway i would back it up a bit
03:35:28.280canada has the canada has the most generous child benefit system in the world or it's one of the
03:35:33.960top it's in the top 10 scandinavia is a bit better i have children we have a very solid
03:35:41.320child benefit system here so maybe chasing down the economic thing to me it's on to me it's to
03:35:49.800me it's on culture more than more than finances i i think that it there has to be like something0.93
03:35:55.800like a new cultural golden age or women have to feel secure in the future of the country um
03:36:02.360The economic argument for our birth rate is 1.25 and we have the highest, one of the highest child benefit rates in the world. It's pretty solid.0.97
03:36:11.840I tend to agree. So everything that I've seen indicates that like policies that target economic benefits for parents in order to try and raise the birth rate will have some effects, but it's actually surprisingly marginal.
03:36:26.480like hungary's been trying this right um and i think like i mean they still haven't hit
03:36:30.880replacement even in hungary despite having run these policies for quite some time um whereas
03:36:36.720the the the few countries uh in the sort of developed ish world that have successfully
03:36:44.880gotten a a um above replacement fertility rate it's all been cultural so you have mongolia where
03:36:54.480the government just came out and said uh large families are high status now and i forget exactly
03:36:59.840how they made that cultural shift but they did and then they got like three kids uh per woman
03:37:05.600and georgia where the patriarch of the georgian orthodox church um was like uh all i will personally
03:37:15.840uh christen every third third born child um which was a big deal there and then the other
03:37:23.040country is israel where they have the you know the the whole thing about you know we have to make up0.72
03:37:27.120for the holocaust uh so like i mean culture seems to make a much much bigger difference it looks
03:37:32.560like dimes is saying something based on how is how the the red no no no i've muted myself because
03:37:40.480sometimes there's background noise and stuff so no i'm not saying nothing so what you're basically
03:37:45.440saying is that maybe a little less of the carrot and a bit more of the stick that we have more
03:37:50.240cultural shaming even financially penalize people for not having kids none of those i don't think
03:37:58.800any of those kind of shaming i don't think maybe maybe there should be maybe there should be more
03:38:04.320of a a stigma to purposely going out of your way i'm not talking about people who biologically
03:38:09.600cannot have children or obviously if you're not married and not have any relationship whatever
03:38:14.000but i'm talking about people that are purposely saying i'm never going to have kids so what
03:38:18.480the reason about that is that like bap right bap talks about this a little bit with the natalism
03:38:24.400discourse and he's like listen like actually you know modern culture is sort of this like
03:38:30.160famoid giantocracy and if you go down that path then all that's going to mean is like oh we're
03:38:36.480going to start shaming the bachelors you know we're going to the you must man up and white
03:38:41.280you must make the women more so i would say yeah well obviously if you financially incentivize
03:38:46.720you're just gonna it's welfare if you financially incentivize you're just gonna draw people from
03:38:52.260the third world or whatever to come here to have children right no but you're bad man in the first
03:38:56.360place well also like this this is a system we had since time immemorial you're expected to be a
03:39:01.960bachelor in your teens and 20s and you're expected to have a family later in life it seemed like we
03:39:07.660had that figured out but we're bap is stuck in this sort of arrested development where he wants
03:39:12.180the perpetual bachelor you know that's a whole other stuff well i mean i think dimes i do think
03:39:17.300you're you're right about that because you know it's bad but like i mean he also he does make a
03:39:21.060good point but like in contemporary society because it is such a ginocracy like there's a
03:39:27.940real risk that it just turns into uh you know shaming the men exclusively right if you look at
03:39:36.200like evangelical churches conservative feminism yeah right if you look at evangelical churches
03:39:41.320And, like, they never say boo to their women.
03:40:06.980And I think the first step, and this is another policy position, that we could have a populist approach to this.1.00
03:40:14.840I think we need to get women to shut up for one year.1.00
03:40:19.240Every single woman just for one year, not allowed to talk or do anything.1.00
03:40:24.380And just, we've never done it before.0.99
03:40:26.700Like an extended version of the Icelandic Women's Day where they all stay home from work and productivity doubles during that day.
03:40:33.900i think we could make great strides in 365 days of this endeavor has been wanting to speak for ages
03:40:42.080endeavor well i i guess with the population question i think that the only thing you'd
03:40:48.060really need to do would be to just get the birth rate to two eventually because the population
03:40:52.880would naturally decrease because um for the past couple of decades the birth rate has been below
03:40:59.120replacement and then couple that with remigration. Honestly, I think the population going down would
03:41:05.260be a good thing because then, well, that would solve the housing crisis. We could demolish all
03:41:09.640these ugly apartment blocks. We could get rid of all these junk fast food restaurants, which are0.73
03:41:15.500just littering every highway and every urban center. And I just feel like society would be
03:41:23.660much more pleasant if the population did go down slightly for the endeavor could i make an
03:41:29.320observation sure i feel like that the canadian economy in for the last few years has been0.94
03:41:35.200skip the dishes indian immigrant drivers bringing fast food to indigenous canadians0.78
03:41:44.580well i mean what i made a point i've seen i've seen it like three times a day it's like skip0.81
03:41:49.680the dishes skip the dishes like three meals a day and yeah like i'll i'll i'll stand on that that's
03:41:55.960been my observation that the new canadian economy is indian immigrants delivering fast food gig1.00
03:42:02.500to indigenous canadians in the most horrifically like misplaced economy we should be swiss rich1.00
03:42:10.160in canada and this is what this is our economy it's ridiculous one thing i posted about this0.99
03:42:15.060a few days ago but uh one thing you notice whenever you drive through a canadian town so
03:42:20.380like the the town that made me think of this was barry ontario so whenever i go to my family's
03:42:25.960cottage we always drive through barry and what you just see is all these junk stores like just
03:42:31.040littered or along the highway so you'll see oh there's a burger king there there's a pizza hut
03:42:36.520and then here's this generic shoe store or something like that it's just all this junk all
03:42:41.500this retail junk that's just uh littering the littering the highway and i i just imagine if
03:42:46.880if the population just went down a bit because this is whether when they keep talking about
03:42:50.440immigration they say oh we need it for the economy but then when you go into these places it's all1.00
03:42:54.400they're all staffed by indians now if uh if this is what we need if this is what we the economy we1.00
03:43:01.260need this immigration for well then i say that uh ending it and starting remigration would just be1.00
03:43:08.020all the better because uh how pleasant would it be to just be able to demolish all these ugly0.90
03:43:13.700boxes littering the uh littering the roadways in canada to get rid of all these uh apartment
03:43:20.460blocks and actually be able to live in decent housing again see i'm i'm right there with you
03:43:24.880except i don't think a lot of them will get demolished i think it will just be like this
03:43:29.500sort of north american variant of the soviet ruin detroit yeah like well at least that would
03:43:37.740look cool exactly exactly i have this yeah but that served that that served the east block like
03:43:43.120like after after the fall of the soviet union people had like super cheap housing across all
03:43:49.760of the eastern europe for for decades and that's not a bad thing don't knock them down i build them
03:43:55.500for a living keep keep them up just have it just have cheap like housing precisely you have all
03:44:00.760like all of the all these businesses go bankrupt all of these buildings go empty and abandoned
03:44:05.480and then you know people just like move into them and start using them basically for free
03:44:09.480like it becomes like almost a free this is such a white guy thing to want to do too like i think
03:44:13.460you could explain this to any other sub genre of person but don't you want to live in like a big
03:44:19.900old warehouse like i do tomorrow right like imagine how oh yeah you know like that's you0.93
03:44:27.980know fucking on off man out of like a few people here will know who i'm talking about0.87
03:44:32.960yeah yeah one time he started like going on about how his vision of the world was one trillion0.98
03:44:41.980bangladeshies or something like just just completely cover the planet and like bangladeshi
03:44:48.020biomass and he was like this would be amazing and like he was unironic about this and uh yeah that1.00
03:44:53.820was he is one of maybe the top sociopathic retard that we have yeah absolutely but it was like it0.99
03:45:01.900was the the sort of cultural difference there because i kind of like realized in that moment0.98
03:45:05.800i was like oh like i think bangladesh she's in general actually just look at their country
03:45:09.040they actually like being in this crowded environment like where there's like no personal
03:45:14.440space and they're all rubbing up against each other whereas like your average white guy hates
03:45:18.860that like we want space that's what i tried to communicate to people um even on our show where
03:45:24.260i said to to achieve what i believe is the good life in canada you need to be deemed unreasonable
03:45:31.740against the status quo but because it's very hard to make a economic argument for what i think we
03:45:37.660all want which is the canadian man he wants space i don't think he does i love when i visited paris
03:45:44.080when i visit these european cities i find it romantic the way they're living in sort of the
03:45:49.080row houses and whatnot but i demand space i think that's one of the benefits of canada i think
03:45:54.440met great many canadian men white canadian men they want to live on a large property that they0.96
03:45:58.920hold dominion over and guess what i can't make a fucking you know year 30 50 plan for why that0.96
03:46:06.840maximizes space i just want it and guess what i'm a canadian citizen i'm allowed to want that i don't0.95
03:46:11.700need to be reasonable based on your criteria i'm going to advocate for that supposed to just give
03:46:17.240us what we want isn't that the whole point you know well you have to kind of remind them of that0.98
03:46:20.720like you don't need to make any justification for anything you fucking want you're a canadian0.91
03:46:24.880citizen maybe you can trace your lineage back 15 20 generations you don't need to explain yourself0.97
03:46:31.360to anyone forget you know immigrants to the your government this is what i want i want not only a
03:46:37.240good house a house that i can pass down across the generations but i want a piece of land and0.69
03:46:43.160i'm going to be a steward of that land that's what i fucking want i want a bit of space i want a bit0.76
03:46:46.800of quiet i want you know what i mean and you're not crazy for wanting that and if you are unreasonable0.87
03:46:52.500I want, like, giant abandoned apartment blocks just on the edge of town that, like, you know, gangs of bohemian teenagers can, like, just kind of, like, quietly, like, squat in and move into and, like, set up, like, weird little art comics.
03:47:06.980This is why you and me are, like, secretly ANCAP guys.
03:47:09.880Like, yeah, I want that and nukes and slaves.
03:47:12.300so i'm gonna look what i will say is now in my travels uh across canada especially
03:47:21.080to toronto i was taken back by the beauty and the majesty of certain sections of the city
03:47:31.700which were so indicative of the ethnos of the people who lived there in the past and i've
03:47:38.020often compared i've always found it kind of interesting that toronto was called the protestant
03:47:42.660rome because i do kind of i see it i see the comparison i've been to europe and what you see
03:47:49.620in rome is this pagan roman foundation and above it is is different eras of the city's construction
03:48:01.700and and also christianity and toronto to me is very much like that where you see like
03:48:06.980you see these beautiful turn-of-the-century
03:48:09.420or older red-brick homes that are huge and spacious.