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00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

00:00:07.720 blood satellite bob what's the name of the the jamboree jamboree town havelock have the old

00:00:24.480 havelock jamboree did you hear this okay what where does jamboree fit in because you said

00:00:30.120 jamboree town did you go to a jamboree so here's the thing is anybody from this region jeff will

00:00:35.820 know this the old havelock jamboree i used to hear about it all the time so havelock is i've never

00:00:40.540 heard of this you've never heard of the havelock jamboree it's the it's the bluegrass festival to

00:00:45.820 beat or it was until they shut it down and that's the story of havelock it's sad havelock is like

00:00:51.560 have luck is this village on one side of the sea rail i'm sorry i didn't know how much of the

00:00:57.300 economy was resting on the jamboree i don't know why i'm laughing it's kind of over it was well

00:01:03.820 it's beautiful it's like it's like uh bob cajun's little brother and uh it's a it's it really is a

00:01:09.020 beautiful little village and we like it we um i haven't actually been to the jamboree it was too

00:01:13.120 young but you guys used to always talk about 18 enough no what i mean is back when the when the 0.91

00:01:20.100 jamboree was running we were teenagers did you like fucking bluegrass when we were 18 i don't 0.94

00:01:24.300 think so but there's a jamboree just for men oh yeah you know what boys boys only dudes dudes 0.87

00:01:30.800 jamboree so we went up because we said look this is one of these towns you know it's the it's the

00:01:35.980 move there and take over town because they're having a hard time they got a lot of small

00:01:39.080 businesses that are failing properties fairly cheap and it's a beautiful old town it's been

00:01:42.420 there forever and it's on the cn rail line so it's got a little bit scenic a little bit of history

00:01:46.140 um we went up there to view this house and you and i were just talking off off mic about um

00:01:51.940 about how they have to tell you if it's a murder house and i just thought it was the weirdest

00:01:55.880 thing that we go in and the lady seemed like really friendly i haven't talked to a lot of

00:01:59.700 real estate agents so i figured like is this uncommonly friendly she's super nice and she's

00:02:04.260 like yeah so the guy that was living here he was an older guy he had a uh a i don't like spit it

00:02:09.960 out he's like yeah he had oh i didn't say that but i meant that come on he had like a younger

00:02:15.720 a younger um uh boyfriend i'm like oh so he's an old gay man with a young boyfriend lived here he's

00:02:21.060 like yeah and then he died yeah he died and his boyfriend died yeah what yeah it was a it was a

00:02:27.680 murder suicide and we're looking around this bizarre house and like the the upstairs was

00:02:32.720 clearly multiple rooms that had all been knocked out so there was one giant upstairs bedroom there's

00:02:37.420 not enough windows and a huge a huge peaked ceiling and the walls had been paneled with like

00:02:43.360 a cedar clapboard or something that was meant for the outside but they put it on the inside

00:02:47.180 and it was incomplete so there's bits of like plastic hanging down from the ceiling

00:02:50.800 and because it was part of an attic originally but they'd ripped it all apart there was no

00:02:54.380 lighting up there so it's like this pitch black peaked ceiling in the main bedroom which is like

00:02:59.240 a thousand square feet like what is this if it sounds like my mic cut out it's because my mouth

00:03:05.440 is a gape

00:03:06.460 we really wanted to buy this house

00:03:09.600 this was a year and a half ago

00:03:11.360 we're like we have to buy this house

00:03:12.960 I'm just shaking it off

00:03:15.860 you said you're going to buy this house

00:03:17.680 this was the one because you and I were talking

00:03:19.820 about doing BS Compound

00:03:21.180 this is the one I think I might have sent you a link

00:03:23.300 to it I'm like this is the BS Compound

00:03:25.600 yeah because it has like nine rooms

00:03:27.880 but they're all weird sizes 1.00

00:03:29.380 you send me a gay murder 1.00

00:03:31.540 suicide cult 1.00

00:03:32.940 house that Jack built house

00:03:35.380 yes yes it is the house that jack built that's what it is it's one of those it's a bizarre

00:03:39.980 place man i think you know what i think she's friendly because she keeps telling that story 0.99

00:03:44.400 and then people don't want to buy it and my question is why do you keep telling that fucking 0.98

00:03:47.520 story it's just her miscalculating how charming that story is like wouldn't you know it there 0.99

00:03:54.240 was an old first of all older gay men and younger gay men people are already running for the exits

00:03:59.600 yeah pretty pretty strange yeah i don't want to hear something like that in the early afternoon 1.00

00:04:03.860 you're gonna tell me that story on a saturday just before dinner go fuck yourself that's an 0.99

00:04:11.220 8 p.m story compared to your place they'd done like you know they'd done the renovations and 1.00

00:04:16.160 whatever right but this place they're just selling it because the dude died no family

00:04:20.200 so i guess they'd like whatever they'd cleaned it up there's no blood or anything but it looks like

00:04:25.680 somebody just came with a truck and pulled the furniture out but nothing has been cleaned and

00:04:30.020 it still looks like it hasn't been decorated since the late 80s and it was uh it was everything

00:04:35.260 wrong with the house you could possibly imagine yeah yeah just disregard in odd places and then

00:04:43.860 a lot of keen focus on other places yep that's that's what you don't want i was telling you

00:04:50.640 before we hit record um so i was in the basement with the electrician because we had some electricity

00:04:57.320 the related work to get done and i finally found the doorway in the basement because i knew it was

00:05:05.380 on the floor plan i saw it and then i went down to the house i couldn't see it but i'm like what

00:05:10.900 that maybe it was a window maybe something was up turns out it's in the farthest corner shrouded

00:05:18.540 in darkness and it blends in the wall because it is an ancient decrepit door which is precisely

00:05:28.300 what you want to find in the house you just purchased this is the beginning of a a blumhouse

00:05:35.580 movie if we're being honest you're gonna you're gonna open up that room and it seems okay but

00:05:40.700 measure it and it's larger than the floor plan of the whole house and then do like a do it like a

00:05:45.340 you you shouldn't have come here type thing oh man am i gonna find a whole liminal space

00:05:51.920 the one thing i do not need in this house is back rooms yeah he's got the back rooms 0.99

00:05:59.380 dimes has got the back rooms house i better not find my big white ass in some back rooms 0.95

00:06:05.520 same thing like i would go down to the basement it's an old house right it was renovated but it's 0.85

00:06:10.760 old house which means the basement you can't do much with but there's this section underneath the

00:06:16.600 stairs you walk down and there's like a chest high wall that was constructed and no entrance no gap

00:06:23.960 that you can get back there it's just a part you can't go to but you can see that someone's back

00:06:29.640 there so again with my media poise in mind i had to take out the phone camera because i can't see

00:06:36.120 but i kind of crane it in and look around record the video and then there's that moment of truth

00:06:43.500 where you're thinking i want to look at this video and if i find yeah if i find you remember

00:06:51.860 those stories scary stories to tell in the dark do you ever read those books with the hideous

00:06:57.040 drawings yeah of course i remember that yeah i'm imagining that like if i see that i just

00:07:03.260 we just we the money's paid you and i still imagine those exact illustrations when the

00:07:08.880 lights go out that's just a very millennial thing that really fucked some people up that

00:07:14.640 fucked me up and there's even stories in there like half the stories weren't even scary they're

00:07:19.560 darkly comedic but even then the drawings were utterly nightmarish anyway i was expecting that

00:07:28.480 underneath my stairs and i'm really happy that i didn't find it but also you think you would

00:07:34.160 have looked back there when you were going through the house now i got a nightmare door

00:07:38.700 yeah yeah yeah i got i got one that's like uh head height two cinder blocks missing in a wall

00:07:45.400 that goes off into an infinite distance in the wall and i that was the thing that bugged me

00:07:50.480 about it is because when we looked at this place before we got this place i didn't see that and 0.96

00:07:55.580 then when we moved in i saw it and i'm like why didn't i see that what is up with these fucking 0.68

00:08:00.780 houses man why are they always playing tricks on us by the way the shoulder height the shoulder 0.96

00:08:08.260 height cinder blocked off area of the basement with like warped boards over it i have one of

00:08:13.320 those too i don't know what it is with like 100 year old houses i thought it's like something to

00:08:17.760 do with the way the foundation was built or whatever they or they just got lazy and they

00:08:21.520 didn't want to put a floor i don't know what it is but mine when you i did my same thing put my

00:08:25.700 phone in it took a picture it's like it's a bunch of mud and rocks so i don't know what the deal is

00:08:31.860 you take a picture and it's a bunch of it's that exact area but a bunch of like crouched people 1.00

00:08:37.320 staring back at you too you're like ah shit yeah yeah oh fucking damn it oh burgers 0.99

00:08:44.620 but you're talking about you know this town this havelock this jamboree city that you were in 1.00

00:08:56.400 i don't think a lot of people know this but as we established in the chat the other day

00:09:00.840 you love dying towns it's my favorite a lot of people don't know this about judas

00:09:06.060 he was in there and i think i'm being fair here you were like i hate all these people

00:09:12.460 revitalizing towns i love an old bowling alley full of heroin i see where you're going keep it

00:09:20.400 the way it is i don't want to be that's that's history that's lore do we ever have the ever

00:09:29.180 the argument about like the duality of um theft versus gifts i forget i think you and i i've had

00:09:36.160 this conversation so many times that i stopped having it with people but in my opinion giving

00:09:40.520 somebody an unrequested gift without their consent is equivalent categorically to stealing

00:09:47.120 from them but not not not you know quantitatively but you're affecting them you're pushing them in

00:09:55.260 a direction and whether or not you think that direction is good whether or not you think you're

00:10:00.260 benefiting them has nothing to do for example you love cocaine so giving the gift of a bag of

00:10:05.520 cocaine to your friend is that a gift is it really a gift did you help your friend i don't know

00:10:10.260 jury's out okay so that's kind of what i'm saying like i i wasn't trying to pass judgment on axe 0.94

00:10:16.240 throwing and beer gardens i'm a huge i am actually a huge beer garden i think every fucking town

00:10:20.500 should have a beer garden like the old days but but on a town that for example has a lot of boomers 0.72

00:10:28.000 with a problem with alcoholism and you make the new center of town an open beer garden maybe there's

00:10:33.080 a reason people there don't like that so i'm not i'm not my problem my problem was that the specific

00:10:39.140 thing that you brought up i didn't read the whole thing and so i'm arguing with you about it and in

00:10:43.380 the specific case of austin austin you were actually right the things that he's complaining 0.96

00:10:47.780 about are stupid and the arguments he's making is stupid but i'm just coming at it my gut reaction 0.99

00:10:52.900 was i don't like it that a small town that's dying the only way for it to be saved is for a 1.00

00:10:58.420 total outsider to come there and just wipe the slate clean and just yeah right in their own

00:11:04.260 image i don't like that i understand your point of view i should probably establish what it is

00:11:08.420 that we're talking about here for people who weren't in our chat which wipes itself after a

00:11:14.100 week anyway it was a uh characteristically it was a tweet that someone had shared and uh i'm

00:11:21.880 gonna paraphrase it here because i don't have it in front of me but he was saying you know

00:11:25.760 culture now is slop everything everyone does is slop and here's some photos from cities throughout

00:11:33.880 america and and austin was an example i think philadelphia was another but all people do is

00:11:40.120 they kept using the word slop uh like llm ai slop but it's just culture slop and you hear this

00:11:46.920 on social media all the time right you know things used to be better in the 50s as if the 50s didn't

00:11:53.900 have slop as well but uh he was saying like look all these young people they just come in

00:11:59.880 and it's axe throwing it's beer gardens it's and he gave a couple other examples you know just that

00:12:06.340 stuff millennials have been hearing forever like avocado toast you guys eat avocado toast what the 0.95

00:12:12.180 fuck's up with you i'm like you know i get it there's a lot you can make fun of millennials 0.98

00:12:16.500 for we clung on to fedoras for way too long we really as a generation haven't figured out hats 0.99

00:12:25.040 um i think we spend more time trying to figure out hair and we didn't really get it we kind of

00:12:31.360 we brought back pompadours and we shouldn't have you know i mean there's a lot we didn't get right

00:12:36.960 a lot of snakes yeah but i'd said and i responded to this guy and i said effectively what is wrong

00:12:44.540 with like axe throwing you know and then i think your position was well outsiders coming in everything

00:12:50.040 you just said which i also agree with but i also wanted to push back on that that sentiment that

00:12:56.160 i'm like you know some of this stuff just is cool you know i mean you know what sucks is bowling

00:13:00.480 or tell me why axe throwing is qualitatively worse than bowling like a bowl an axe like like oh you

00:13:09.180 can throw axes in your yard well you can bowl in your yard too we could all do everything at home

00:13:14.320 i want to i want to paint a picture here if you're in a town with a bowling alley and the bowling

00:13:18.780 alley has been there for 100 years and the majority of the remaining people in the town

00:13:22.920 go to the bowling alley and it is their only third place but the bowling alley is failing

00:13:27.140 because so many people have died or left the town if i was joining that town i would try to fix the

00:13:32.600 bowling alley to keep it as a bowling alley even if i don't bowl just out of respect now if the 0.76

00:13:37.760 bowling alley was like an abandoned fucking bowling alley or there was no bowling alley i would build 0.72

00:13:43.000 an axe throwing place because it's actually cooler and more fun yeah an axe throwing place or anything 0.94

00:13:47.820 that like or anything that people are actually going to use but would serve that purpose because

00:13:52.060 like i don't personally i don't i haven't bowled since i was a teenager i'm not a big like bowling

00:13:56.000 head but i know that there are plenty of people who are and i just again it's a matter of it is

00:14:01.120 very context specific about where you're at that's why i said as soon as i kind of clued in i went

00:14:05.580 back and read it i'm like oh you're talking about austin you're talking about like the california

00:14:10.280 of texas go yourself dude nobody gives a about you yeah like austin has been portland of texas

00:14:17.800 for like forever as far as it's like the what's crazy well the first thing that's crazy is that

00:14:22.740 he's going from talking about llms and like aesthetic ai slop and then in the very same

00:14:28.420 sentence he's like and that's why i hate hipsters and their avocados like what where are you coming

00:14:33.880 from his his argument was like we need to cling to the past and and i actually agree with that i

00:14:39.160 think you agree of you know sifting through the past and history and finding things but i'm like

00:14:44.440 the ironic part is that this is the generation that does that yeah what you're talking about

00:14:50.220 millennial hipsters right what first let me just say what are they what are millennial hipsters

00:14:53.480 what are they known for vinyl records antiquing going through like 1950s 60s culture 40s culture

00:15:03.020 1890s culture um gardening in their apartments you know like these are the people that do that

00:15:10.160 you hipsters love organic who's like you mean the food that our grandparents ate

00:15:13.880 they're the ones who go to farmers pasture raised beef yeah like like are they like our ancestors 0.99

00:15:20.320 you love throwing axes yeah like our ancestors yeah throwing axes is actually pretty fucking

00:15:25.080 cool yeah if you're saying that oh they charge too much to do that okay i agree but hipsters in

00:15:30.500 their beer gardens like i mean that's kind of i mean in some cultures that's been normal for a 0.99

00:15:35.280 thousand years it's just you fucking people decided to to create you know fucking i can't 0.97

00:15:41.280 think of the name of a pub olive garden it's just a different type of third place you know i mean 0.99

00:15:46.240 like okay like you would go to olive garden but you would think that beer gardens are slop like

00:15:52.560 i can't understand it okay yeah exactly and so this is the generation that will move into an area

00:15:58.200 and open up something new but try and keep the facade of what there is what was there before so

00:16:03.420 oh here's a fish market well we're gonna run an agency out of it but we're gonna keep the fit we're

00:16:10.740 to call ourselves a fish market i'm like well you know this is the best case scenario these people

00:16:16.260 who are you know in aggregate pretty annoying but like what what actually is wrong with them

00:16:22.740 and but it was just sort of a way to complain about ai there's a way to say you know everything

00:16:26.900 slop these days well you know it's also slop everything boomers ate that on average it was

00:16:32.660 healthier because that healthier components but you would slop canned food peak slop you would 0.98

00:16:37.540 slop is fucking chicken salad you know it's good but look at chicken salad is that not slop it's 0.93

00:16:44.980 pure slop yeah and you spread it on toast i'm like i like slop though that's my thing like i'm 0.99

00:16:50.260 i'm an endorser of sloth yeah first of all some slop is okay but slot it's got to be slop in good

00:16:58.100 measure right you have to have a hierarchy of slop and where and when you use the slot you

00:17:03.300 You know, it's also slop. Technically, it's sausages. Really?

00:17:07.520 It's just...

00:17:08.160 Are we going to get into like the...

00:17:10.800 It's just good.

00:17:12.100 It's just like sloponomics. Are we getting into the...

00:17:14.400 Yeah, it is. It is sloponomics because I'm like, there's just some slop that we like.

00:17:18.700 How do we define... You know what? I want to... Can we just drill on this for a second?

00:17:22.240 What is slop actually? Because the sausages is such a, honestly, a really interesting example.

00:17:26.140 Because on the one hand, chicken franks, right?

00:17:28.680 You've got mechanically separated waste bits from the floor in a cellulose wrapper that's eaten by people who are going to die next week of heart failure anyways.

00:17:38.400 And then you have the history of sausage as a cultural food way and a way of preserving meat for the winter throughout Europe for thousands of years.

00:17:48.660 Well, that's the thing, because to me, a sausage, even at its peak, it's usually pork.

00:17:54.500 And the reason you do pork is because it maintains moisture and it's very fatty.

00:17:59.280 Yeah.

00:17:59.460 So eating pork is actually kind of a cheap way to have delicious food with a little effort.

00:18:05.860 And throughout the year, too, because you can cure it.

00:18:07.820 Yeah, lamb is harder.

00:18:09.720 Beef is actually pretty hard to reserve.

00:18:12.260 But pork is easier.

00:18:13.480 And you season it.

00:18:14.900 it's something that is relatively low effort that you can literally churn out through an organ

00:18:20.880 grinder you know i mean like i'm just saying by the definition of what we might call slop which

00:18:25.700 is like low effort automated it is that it just happens to be good we happen to like it but

00:18:30.840 compared to french cuisine compared to now i'm struggling to name a single dish duck larange

00:18:38.460 but like there's slop in the sense that it's it's just low effort it's easy but it can

00:18:44.200 be good i don't know like i know we're getting just do we just not i guess we don't like bad

00:18:50.220 things no the the point is like you you you bring something on board because you need the the like

00:18:58.120 the economic benefit of it so like in in some sense any every new thing is slop and then it

00:19:03.700 ceases to be slop when it gets when it becomes lindy right you add lindy to slop and it becomes

00:19:09.120 cultural way but um i just want to draw attention to your use of the phrase organ grinder because

00:19:15.640 i know exactly what you mean you mean a you mean an organ grinder but an organ grinder is the man

00:19:22.520 with the top hat and the dancing monkey it's true but also slop also is that man not slop but do we

00:19:30.580 not yearn for him like the the dick van dyke one man band in the 1930s is that entertainment or is 0.93

00:19:37.940 it sloth is he really fucking irritating actually and you wish he wasn't there and the children give 0.69

00:19:43.200 him money and you're mad at the children yeah man whatever you do don't give him money it encourages 0.97

00:19:49.360 him it's like giving breadcrumbs to birds he's just gonna come back he's gonna follow us around

00:19:56.200 which is what happens he'll just follow you around but then lindy a hundred years later it's like i 0.96

00:20:01.540 would love to be followed around by dick van dyke with a symbol tied to his chest lindy by the way

00:20:06.320 which is just i guess everyone's got to know what that is but to me the essence of lindy is just 0.94

00:20:12.140 looking at a thing and going you don't see that anymore and that's it like you're just things that

00:20:17.900 survive like things that pass through the eye of of that of that tunnel where they have been

00:20:24.180 beaten and attacked and and used and brought back and then thrown away and brought back for 100

00:20:29.320 years is like okay this thing has staying power like certain types of architecture are lindy just 0.93

00:20:33.200 because for whatever fucking reason people just keep doing it so i guess it's a thing

00:20:37.220 right but it's not it wasn't by by by writ yeah and a good point is that something is slob when 0.93

00:20:44.340 it's kind of automated too which is that you know to them the only house that has value is something 0.93

00:20:51.220 that a mason worked on and it took a long long time but you know starting in like the fucking

00:20:57.180 1800s even before that you had mass-produced prefabricated houses and i'm i know you know

00:21:04.920 what i'm referring to i am referring to red dead redemption 2 yeah near the end where the mission 0.85

00:21:10.360 is you build your own house you just you go to the fucking lumber yard and they send you a house 0.60

00:21:14.260 kit that is interesting i never think because to me the beginning of architectural slop 0.97

00:21:18.700 from for in terms of personal like family housing would have been the cape cod in the states which

00:21:23.380 would have been post-war but i see what you're saying that prior to that you had house kits and

00:21:29.840 yeah house kits are for guys who can't be bothered or don't have the money to hire a team of people

00:21:35.560 who have all of the correct craft skills so they kind of do a bit of it for you and then it would

00:21:39.300 be more like it's built in a workshop instead of a factory but it's the same idea it's like hey

00:21:44.040 we're we're democratizing this we're bringing it down to the lowest common denominator so everybody

00:21:48.600 can access it but it's that's definitely slop but it also means that people can have housing

00:21:54.840 whereas before they might literally be living in a shack also keep in mind when they talk about llms

00:21:59.880 and ai churning out words and you know not maybe not fiction but non-fiction certainly they're

00:22:08.600 saying it's producing slop no what it's actually doing is more effectively mimicking the slop we

00:22:15.080 are already producing llms are great at just making blogs and making posts that used to take

00:22:21.960 one person a lot of time and it shouldn't have so it's accurately it's spending as much time as you

00:22:26.840 should spend on the type of we were producing at mass scale before i'll tell you what i'm concerned

00:22:33.720 about when i talk about the like the the slop future that we're going to live in there was a

00:22:38.520 study i think it was only this year that this came out they took a bunch of um only tangentially

00:22:45.080 related llms to my understanding and they had them all trained on obviously human data mostly

00:22:50.760 these were aesthetic llms and then they closed them off from the world and they started iteratively

00:22:57.640 training them on each other's output and after like seven generations there were really really

00:23:02.920 bizarre things that each one of them started to focus in on like there were like breaking points

00:23:08.040 that they couldn't get away from certain it's almost like a schizophrenic tick in the output

00:23:12.600 yeah that almost every single image has this tick so in one way you could say oh this is an

00:23:16.920 idiosyncrasy of this it's almost like it's becoming its own designer but it was really

00:23:21.080 really unesthetic like it was hideous and in some places sometimes grotesque but other times it's

00:23:26.200 just ugly like just obviously ugly to a human eye so it's like that's where we're headed and the

00:23:31.320 reason i say we're headed there is because first of all they produce weight like for every new

00:23:35.320 piece of art produced by a human now there's a thousand pieces or a million pieces produced by

00:23:38.520 llm but also increasingly because of that they're going to have to train off of each other's data

00:23:44.040 unless there's tags to prevent them i don't think there are which means this is already happening

00:23:48.040 so we're going to get there eventually and that leads me to the second thing like say in the case

00:23:52.360 of architecture i don't think there's anything wrong with people having cape cod combs if the 0.97

00:23:55.960 the point to a k-pod is you understand this is a shitty house it's not a good house it's a shitty

00:24:01.180 house that you can afford so that you don't have to live in a tent and one day you will get to have 0.82

00:24:05.320 a good house because good houses still exist there's still a hierarchy of quality and of

00:24:09.980 cultural you know cachet and that's fine the problem with slop i think when slop becomes a

00:24:15.100 real issue is when the existence of slop either economically or for whatever reason drives out

00:24:20.580 the earlier version of whatever it was meant to be an alternative to like you're supposed to have

00:24:25.840 hierarchy where the slop's on the bottom so that everybody at least has something to eat

00:24:29.440 and then as you eat you can get strong and rise up the ladder but yeah there's definitely cases and

00:24:34.240 i think aesthetics is something that's happening now where it is actually killing the economic

00:24:38.880 viability of people making a career out of art just to one extent or another's and maybe we just

00:24:43.840 have to deal with that i think art's probably the best example by which i mean visual art also i

00:24:49.280 i wanted to say this might be the episode where we've said slop the most but maybe not

00:24:54.840 it shouldn't be but also like i want to say oh it's putting writers out of work too but to me

00:25:02.140 the publishing industry has been so irredeemably bad for so long that i think it deserves it i

00:25:09.460 think we actually need to nuke most publishing companies and start and maybe start we need to

00:25:15.100 start like very rarely do i say we need a total collapse of an entire institution i really think 0.98

00:25:19.820 we need to burn publishing to the ground and start fresh i like it's there's too much shit 0.83

00:25:26.340 it's it's most of it's bad and there's more being published now than ever before and there's still 0.96

00:25:32.380 people buying it but it's all bad you know what i mean yeah yeah um it's all just i wonder i

00:25:38.160 i recently just got into not got into but i was made aware of this entire site i'll see if i can

00:25:45.520 find it but it's it's the demographic or the user base is almost all women and it's just like those

00:25:53.120 types of just pornified history lit where it's like you know i mean like we used to make fun of

00:25:59.600 them making that but it's like oh a horny werewolf and the debutante and they're they're buying it 0.96

00:26:05.520 they're still buying it and you know if these were men we would say they were sick in the mind 0.98

00:26:12.400 but women can just do whatever and women ignore everything they're all desperately horny alcoholics 0.98

00:26:20.480 and no one's talking about that yeah sorry i cut you off no i mean like you said that stuff's

00:26:26.000 always existed it's just that it's much more it's ubiquitous now um what was i going to say i was

00:26:32.480 was going to say maybe it's the the rebirth of the author one day in the future when the only reason

00:26:38.600 that anybody would ever read a book and give it any credibility is because you have before you

00:26:44.400 even pick up the book you have a very strong opinion about the author either because somebody

00:26:48.240 you know or they had some other great work or something right you would never like we have this

00:26:53.260 world or not i think we this is already gone but i know like say when we were in high school

00:26:56.940 go to a bookstore and you could like flip through in a given section and based on the cover and the

00:27:03.300 summary and flipping through it you'd be like i don't know who this author is but this seems like

00:27:06.860 a cool book that that's dead and that should probably die this is what i liked about cormac

00:27:13.340 mccarthy and he's not everyone's cup of tea but if you read like blood meridian that's one that

00:27:20.340 i think everyone should read because it's more interesting than people probably give a credit

00:27:24.880 for but his writing style and his prose style is very raw in the sense that he doesn't use

00:27:31.640 quotation marks he describes dialogue and it fits it right in with descriptions of things right

00:27:37.960 it all flows together and there is a rawness to that that i found very very attractive

00:27:43.980 and it's everything stripped away and what i'm trying to get at is that if you get into writing

00:27:51.260 and screenwriting you could spend so much time with the technicality of it and script writing

00:27:57.820 is the worst and you can kind of poison yourself if you come in through script writing like i did

00:28:02.620 like i started writing scripts and then i really started writing novels more and i had to unlearn 0.97

00:28:08.220 a lot of script writing shit because they really systematize it and you know that book story by

00:28:14.700 robert mckee robert mckee is this really renowned um lecturer on how to build out of the perfect 0.98

00:28:23.420 script and how you know every scene should do this and every minute so this should happen

00:28:29.260 and so you have these people just learning the technical skills of what makes a story compelling

00:28:34.460 or exciting but you it gets so overburdened with that and it's so rare you pick up a book and it

00:28:40.380 it just feels like someone telling you a story without any like of course there's technical

00:28:46.100 mastery in it but it doesn't scream at you that it's technical mastery right it's it's i don't

00:28:52.020 know the hand is more invisible in it whereas with so many other things you can see the template

00:28:57.620 you can see the rules it's following and in literature it's the one place in my mind because

00:29:04.320 movies they they're bound by rules running time and everything with literature it's really just

00:29:09.440 a blank canvas if you want it to be you can do so much shit you can have scenes that just don't go 0.70

00:29:14.480 anywhere it doesn't fucking matter and some people have taken that to the extreme and that's where 0.93

00:29:19.600 you get books like house of leaves or infinite jest even but then again just corving mccarthy 0.94

00:29:26.220 is the opposite of that spectrum where it's so distilled down to its essence it just seems like

00:29:32.580 like a true story as as if it grew out of the ground or something and great authors can do

00:29:38.420 that i'm like that the fact that that's so singular and rare is a problem because the rest

00:29:43.620 of these people might as well be llms they might as well be here's the prompt and i'm going to put

00:29:49.320 it through these mechanisms in my brain and i'm going to spit out something that i think sells

00:29:53.980 and you know i used to think this like man you i should do i should just start churning out

00:29:59.600 romance trash every everyone who wants to get into writing eventually thinks that when their

00:30:05.700 thing doesn't sell as well as they want like well why i should just do what works what's wrong with 0.94

00:30:10.020 that why don't i just churn out a bunch of like garbage pop sci-fi that just kind of rips off

00:30:16.560 guardians of the galaxy or whatever it is and i'm like that sounds good as a you know inception of

00:30:23.380 an idea but imagine actually doing that imagine imagine spending nine months to a year writing

00:30:30.340 this garbage and then worst case scenario that's your job and do that forever and nothing you

00:30:35.460 right ever matters ever do you think there's something uh some quality of uh blood meridian 0.96

00:30:43.660 or of mccarthy's work or other great authors that is independent of the reader that it like for

00:30:50.920 example if we get flooded with llm slop for a hundred years and cormac disappears and then it

00:30:57.880 reappears would we recognize it as a great work or is that maybe that's the big fear that our

00:31:05.040 opinions and our ability to understand what is good is influenced by what's in the environment

00:31:10.460 and when we create a toxic environment through slop we no longer have a way of gauging like

00:31:16.080 now our whole range of understanding is good slop the bad slop but you know what i mean would we

00:31:20.800 recognize the fighting is i think and again maybe i have to find another word for this other than

00:31:25.160 slop but one of the issues with a lot of the entertainment you see now is that it is such

00:31:30.040 slop that you stop treating it as entertainment meaning that when i hear people discuss how they

00:31:37.080 engage with these shows it's just something to leave on in the background right no no that you

00:31:41.380 know what like all marvel and all star wars it's all i mean it's truly slop in the sense that it

00:31:47.360 is a mass market product which was designed with one purpose and that purpose is selling tickets

00:31:52.860 there is nothing there is no greater purpose or artistic vision behind it whatsoever it's

00:31:58.920 completely void of anything so i mean the irony there is this is actually the cumulative work

00:32:05.300 of hundreds of millions of man hours of some of some really talented people and uh but anyway

00:32:11.260 like we're changing the parameters of what constitutes entertainment so it's not even

00:32:15.980 something you focus on anymore it's just something you have at turn a light yeah and some people

00:32:21.880 treat podcasts that way so i just have it on but you shouldn't be doing that with blood satellite

00:32:26.360 this this show did some people have been saying that they listen to this on 2x speed i don't know

00:32:32.160 how you know no no no i already it's because we don't have a lot planned for this yeah i do not

00:32:37.680 have a lot planned for this episode we haven't gone to any of the topics i wanted shooting the

00:32:42.400 shit for like almost an hour sorry guys there's a there's at least a couple things i want to talk

00:32:48.620 about um and i can't really fit it into what we were just talking about but maybe i can with this 0.82

00:32:55.280 first one um and i'm not even looking at a story right now but i do have some um so have you heard

00:33:04.180 about the state bank of texas uh what this is uh for people who may be aware of this

00:33:12.220 i'll just refresh your memory uh the state bank of texas is run by indians specifically this patel

00:33:19.400 family and uh the story that crossed my desk i looked into this as well because i was so

00:33:26.600 fascinated by it because obviously this would be happening elsewhere but someone had asked the

00:33:31.420 question that we've all noticed which is why is it that every single gas station seems to be run

00:33:38.360 by indians especially in the american midwest but also elsewhere and the story you're told

00:33:45.020 is that well indians are just inherently entrepreneurial lie of course have you met

00:33:51.240 them do you know them uh and they don't seem particularly adept at it because if you've ever

00:33:58.680 gone to any of these businesses it's falling apart at the seams they don't know what they're doing

00:34:03.120 and they hate you for showing up and asking for gas of course but it turns out that there's this

00:34:10.920 bank that just gives out loans specifically to indians for the express purpose of opening these

00:34:17.600 stores so it's just a scheme it's just that we're gonna try and get this low human capital and try 0.99

00:34:25.520 and get them in wherever we can what's the lowest ever thing well you'd have to be a retard to fuck 0.95

00:34:30.940 up a gas station honestly it's very i don't know how you would do it i don't know how you would 0.89

00:34:36.020 drive a gas station into the ground unless you built it in a place where there's no cars but i

00:34:43.460 don't think they let you do that they won't let you build a gas station just anywhere well and

00:34:47.920 these guys are building gas stations right they're buying up other people's gas stations

00:34:51.980 yeah and not like dying gas stations either like you just they buy one that's doing okay they

00:34:57.200 overpay um so i'm looking at a tweet right here i got a couple but it's um this guy uh named billy

00:35:07.360 at tractor owner um he was talking about what we were talking about he says an immigrant named uh

00:35:13.200 the chan patel his name's his name's chan patel

00:35:19.120 here is your entrepreneur if he was indian and chinese

00:35:22.480 chan patel who'd come to stanford for grad school opened up the state bank of texas

00:35:28.720 to provide funding for the hospitality business he sourced two million dollars from friends and

00:35:33.600 family i wish i could source two million from friends and family yeah he's just uh just a

00:35:39.280 plucky entrepreneur pulling himself up by his bootstraps i couldn't get a few thousand from

00:35:45.840 our family for this house we had to do this entire thing um anyway friends family who he added to the

00:35:51.600 board and the banks and and the banks has grown from 2 million to 87 to 2.7 billion today has

00:36:00.560 never had an unprofitable quarter he primarily loans to family and friends from the state of

00:36:06.880 gwarjret in india people would immigrate and work for little and live on site until they

00:36:12.560 had enough capital to purchase their own business it was like a snowball effect of indian innkeepers

00:36:17.920 now an estimated 70 of motels in america are indian owned 70 of motels uh and the majority

00:36:29.240 of them are owned by the patel hotel cartel and with the increase in property values their fortune

00:36:35.300 has only grown and i'm looking at a uh big thread here this was like the original one

00:36:41.980 by

00:36:43.180 Sheil Mono.

00:36:46.300 Now, I can't tell if this is a joke

00:36:48.100 Indian account.

00:36:50.160 Oh, no. He said he's leading

00:36:51.680 pre-seed rounds at FinTech.

00:36:54.000 That sounds like just a regular Indian.

00:36:56.840 Okay, he says,

00:36:57.660 it sounds sarcastic.

00:36:59.980 I think you can read this in a sarcastic tone

00:37:02.020 if you want to. He says,

00:37:03.380 heartwarming Indian banking

00:37:05.380 story. The State Bank of Texas

00:37:07.540 is owned and mostly run by

00:37:09.280 Patels. Poor Indian

00:37:11.440 immigrant chan patel came to stanford from grad school um the it the business is still mostly

00:37:18.260 lending to indian americans i'm sorry it's the same guy who got two million dollars from his 0.99

00:37:22.340 family yeah yeah poor indian immigrant fuck fuck off we got an image here like here's here's the 1.00

00:37:28.840 board directors these are all really fucked up looking people by the way these are what a car 1.00

00:37:36.760 crash of a race oh oh i've seen this i was scrolling through this the other day it's wild 0.99

00:37:43.000 he's got like his weird mom with the dead eyes in there what is she i can't read it from is she a

00:37:48.920 director how many directors do you need bud yeah well also to be fair you look at any bank it's

00:37:55.740 like man you need 47 directors chief lending officer this is a guy with a faux hawk in you

00:38:05.180 want to know people who haven't figured hair out it's indians the asians got it right they found

00:38:12.940 the two that work for them and everyone just does it you only really need two haircuts what are we

00:38:19.740 doing mucking about right the top knot and the and the the top on the bowl cut obviously that's

00:38:25.940 right have you ever seen a good indian haircut i ask you i challenge you never man it just doesn't

00:38:33.720 work right like i'm looking at this image the guy's got a bald spot that's just on the front

00:38:39.100 left what the hell he's got pure comb over but he didn't even cut it he just combed his hair over

00:38:45.040 and walked in front of the camera pure comb over i'll bet you i'll bet you he didn't know he was

00:38:50.680 having a picture taken that guy bippin his name's also bippin bippin these whimsical names 0.99

00:38:59.060 these fucking willow ass names bippin patel yeah not a tie to be found by the way they're 0.99

00:39:07.360 all wearing the blue suit but no ties but still the top button done up because if you're not 0.99

00:39:13.260 going to do the tie you should have the top button undone yeah just get getting it wrong

00:39:16.840 yep i i show give me seven indians in a row i'll show you seven people getting it wrong

00:39:25.200 look at danny patel literally like scowling at the camera i think he has dementia okay by the

00:39:34.040 way look at this guy his name's dn patel in brackets dan which leads me to believe they

00:39:40.480 didn't know those were two letters they just called him dan they've just been calling him dan

00:39:45.700 they've just been saying the name incorrectly and now it's on the site

00:39:50.500 and imagine having a billion of this

00:39:54.560 just multiply

00:39:56.700 it's happening

00:39:57.660 and I'm looking at

00:39:59.560 George is a very

00:40:02.820 common name in the Indian state of

00:40:04.680 Kerala which is 20% Christian

00:40:06.360 the board of directors at

00:40:08.560 Mathoot I mean

00:40:10.860 look

00:40:12.100 sometimes we can be uncreative with our

00:40:14.680 names everything's vanguard

00:40:16.340 industries or whatever you know

00:40:18.860 oh this is so good the leading gold loan company india is comprised of seven men they all named

00:40:24.960 george the three of them are named george matute imagine having the same name three guys in the

00:40:32.200 same office all naming george matute and then there's alex george george george george jacob

00:40:37.780 and george alexander yeah i know they're all indian i know you guys can't see this these are 0.94

00:40:42.560 the same guy it's just the same fucking guy with slightly different weights like you're watching 0.92

00:40:47.700 a fat progression the first it's got to be a bit though because the three george matutes they have 0.98

00:40:53.320 the exact same mustache and haircut and they have the same colored jacket and tie almost this is

00:40:59.340 uncanny i don't understand this country i don't understand this people it's a joke of a country

00:41:06.680 they never like the british made a huge mistake teaching these people how to read and write

00:41:10.200 not that they did even that much but yeah india needs to go back this one the third george matute

00:41:16.480 his title is whole time director dude what he's a whole time director remove the w it's just whole

00:41:26.640 time well a lot of them are whole time directors but there's no part-time director you're right

00:41:31.560 you're right five of the seven are whole time directors but there's no part-time director

00:41:37.820 so what do you huh and do they start off as a part-time director and like they run this as if

00:41:45.740 they're an hourly wage gas station like you don't get bumped up to 40 hours a thing where it's like

00:41:52.140 if you put me down as whole time director it means i do not have to do any other work 0.86

00:41:57.140 something like that it's got to be something dumb yeah it's got to be something with their

00:42:02.680 cardboard economy i i was sitting the other day and just thinking what would it be like to live 0.66

00:42:10.940 a week in india and i don't mean visit it and go to sites but like what i'm not but just like put

00:42:16.340 yourself in that context because we know how to live in a western context but to actually exist

00:42:21.720 like in japan right to live truly as the japanese do yeah it's a total paradigm shift in everything

00:42:28.220 from relationships to how you structure your day to how you just engage with the world so i'm like

00:42:34.180 india i'm like like you're always scamming people you know what i mean and that's what we were what

00:42:40.580 were we talking about we're talking about it was i think it was milk trucker in the chat they were

00:42:46.880 talking about one of trump's recent disappointments which we'll get into which is the golden ticket

00:42:52.920 the golden ticket to attract wealthy investors into america you provide something to the tune

00:43:00.460 of five million dollars and you can be allowed in america with that goal in mind we have developed

00:43:07.060 in great detail what we are calling the gold card which goes on sale very very soon for five

00:43:15.220 million dollars we will allow the most successful job creating people from all over the world to

00:43:21.360 buy a path to u.s. citizenship it's like the green card but better and more sophisticated

00:43:27.880 and canada had something very similar for the longest time i believe the numbers were you had

00:43:34.480 to come in with two hundred thousand dollars if you showed up with that and you can be let in and

00:43:39.840 for the first five years you couldn't uh enjoy any social services you had to prove you can be

00:43:45.120 self-sufficient so you're thinking okay and you made a good point which is man there's a lot of

00:43:51.160 there's a billion people in india just statistically there's probably a lot of millionaires

00:43:56.740 right um and in china you would say the same thing there's quite a few millionaires in china

00:44:02.100 is that right yeah i mean from my experience i look i'm often talking from the perspective of

00:44:06.780 canada it's an it's an open and shut case with canada because if you look at the number of

00:44:10.600 people in india versus canada and if you look at the the what is it called like the divide in

00:44:16.640 in wealth like the wealth gap in india and then you look at the value of it like india

00:44:20.780 is a wealthy country compared to canada they are very very wealthy they're not as wealthy per head

00:44:25.700 as canada but they're way way bigger and wealthier than us so it'd be super easy for india alone it'd

00:44:31.980 be easy for one province in india if they brought all their millionaires to canada they would

00:44:36.120 we'd become an indian province overnight yeah the problem is that we think having millionaires here

00:44:43.200 is attractive or just having entrepreneurs here is attractive i'll explain what i mean

00:44:48.660 because if anyone has had the displeasure of working with or beneath these individuals let's

00:44:55.760 say you're the indian millionaire what do they do what business do they start they seem to always

00:45:01.900 start cons they start these scam businesses they love software as a service they come over here

00:45:10.300 what happens with them is what happens with the gas stations which is that okay we want

00:45:15.820 so we want millionaires okay do you actually want what's implied when we say millionaire

00:45:21.420 or billionaire which is this is a self-made man this is someone with leadership acumen

00:45:27.100 this is someone who will be bringing skill sets over here um or is it just someone with a million

00:45:33.840 dollars in a bank account because it's easy to find a guy with a bank account that you put a

00:45:39.740 million dollars in fake it get them in and then what do they do they're starting scam businesses

00:45:45.060 because it turns out that being a millionaire isn't as good of a filter as you thought which

00:45:49.660 is what happens when you have all these like chinese and indian and whoever millionaires 0.93

00:45:53.940 multi-millionaires coming over like they don't fucking do anything they start the worst businesses 0.60

00:45:58.900 in the world same thing with entrepreneurs when you say entrepreneur what do you actually mean 1.00

00:46:04.060 who what do you want because if it's just a motherfucker with a business plan as we've just 0.99

00:46:11.460 addressed an llm can churn that out do you want a psychotic retard with a 20 page 1.00

00:46:18.880 stack of llm slop because that's pretty easy to do and a million dollars in the account 0.99

00:46:24.800 looks like we have the next bill gates and what does he do he opens up a fucking kebab shop they 0.83

00:46:30.220 you see what they do behold what they do so what we really need is really qualitative filters what 0.92

00:46:37.300 we need is asking hard questions who do we actually want because if you're telling me if

00:46:43.460 trump is telling me we want rich people to we want rich brown people to fix the economy 0.99

00:46:48.040 a rich doesn't fucking matter b they won't fix the economy it just isn't going to fucking happen 0.99

00:46:55.200 you want to know how you know it's not going to happen because it hasn't fucking happened because 0.98

00:46:58.680 i guess we just forgot that we've been doing this whole fucking time absolutely man absolutely and i 0.84

00:47:05.160 think they know that to be honest i don't think this is accidental and you know what like maybe 0.82

00:47:10.640 this will segue into the next part because i don't want to say that we were vindicated but

00:47:17.740 because being vindicated on being skeptical doesn't amount to much in my books but we are

00:47:23.500 always pretty firm that we were waiting for the other shoe to drop with trump if trump does

00:47:30.020 something you like we celebrate it hey i like nice doge love it firing all of civil servants

00:47:36.840 and getting liberals on suicide watch.

00:47:42.160 That Kraken USA to open like an old A guy,

00:47:44.460 that was fantastic.

00:47:45.480 I was thrilled.

00:47:46.200 They saved all kinds of money.

00:47:48.200 They saved billions of dollars.

00:47:50.260 And then it turns out that we're giving

00:47:52.400 those billions of dollars to Israel.

00:47:55.380 And that's on top of what we're already giving Israel.

00:47:58.420 He said, hey, we found more billions.

00:48:00.200 I mean, who could have predicted he would do that?

00:48:03.200 It's not like he has a history of supporting Israel.

00:48:05.220 I was waiting for the other shoe to drop.

00:48:08.180 Leading into this was also the release of the Epstein files.

00:48:12.320 Which are not coming.

00:48:13.900 They're not coming.

00:48:14.820 That's it.

00:48:15.400 They came, and they're worse than ever.

00:48:18.060 Like the actual Epstein.

00:48:19.480 Wait, did something else come out today?

00:48:21.300 No, no.

00:48:22.020 The ones from like last week.

00:48:23.680 Yeah, that was nothing.

00:48:24.340 It was like 30 pages or something.

00:48:25.720 It was actually more redacted than the ones that were released previously.

00:48:30.900 Because there was some Epstein files floating around.

00:48:33.700 that they re-released them with more redactions.

00:48:38.480 Binders were given out to particular people,

00:48:41.340 marked the Epstein files, phase one,

00:48:43.340 the most transparent administration in history.

00:48:46.600 All that information was later posted online

00:48:48.660 with this disclaimer from the Trump administration,

00:48:51.540 quote, the first phase of declassified files

00:48:54.420 largely contains documents that have previously been leaked

00:48:57.140 but never released in a formal capacity.

00:49:00.040 Caleb, it was a bit of a nothing burger.

00:49:02.800 it was like blowing open el capone safe and there was a bit of dirt and some empty bottles nothing

00:49:08.320 we didn't already know but pam bondi is as a gung-ho for israel as trump so what what do you

00:49:14.480 expect same with cash patel they're all on the man it's it's it's almost impossible for me to view

00:49:22.580 that move as something other than insulting to me directly right like saying you're going to 0.99

00:49:29.820 release the epstein files but then releasing less i'm like oh you're telling me to fuck myself 0.81

00:49:34.040 all of us the ones who've been just crowing for it the entire time you're saying haha also they

00:49:41.480 released them to a gaggle of hand-picked influencers who were themselves largely jewish

00:49:45.700 like not all jewish but they were like 70 jewish just like oh that's weird i thought this was like

00:49:51.120 an american i think it's the american government isn't it weird that like 70 of the random non-associated

00:49:56.720 influencers from x that you brought on board were jewish so it's so strange i would rather you just

00:50:03.780 say that you're never going to release them because it implicates the american government

00:50:08.840 at that's the thing that would be the punk rock well now they are saying that like a bondi just

00:50:13.360 went i think today or yesterday and said oh well we're going to release them but there's going to

00:50:17.180 be things redacted for national security okay so none of it because the reason we wanted them 0.97

00:50:21.400 released or didn't you notice was because there were so many fucking government bureaucrats 0.81

00:50:25.120 and elected officials and celebrities who were involved and all of that's national security

00:50:29.760 so obviously you're never going to release it so you should have just not released it should

00:50:34.220 have said on day one before he even announced he said look look we've had a look at the epstein

00:50:38.360 files but for national security reasons we can't release it that would have been smart so this is

00:50:42.300 not only insulting it's retarded because now like i don't know what this is like almost intentionally

00:50:48.000 to rile us up like to make us angry they're trying to sabotage the discussion because

00:50:54.200 they released epstein's black book his contact list right and we're supposed to parse through

00:51:02.280 that but the fact just having a list of everyone that epstein ever knew is just busy work like i

00:51:09.160 actually don't i don't know what to do that information because i bet that's full of every

00:51:13.200 single financier in new york but he he knew everybody that's the point yeah so telling me

00:51:19.180 giving me a list of everybody what what that's poisoning the well is that's yeah it is what i 0.86

00:51:25.420 want is the actual documents to say who did the bad shit which i'm not getting we want the flight

00:51:30.740 logs yeah what i want is the stuff that implicates the government what i want is the stuff that 0.62

00:51:37.400 implicates israel but like we're just getting an admission that we'll never receive that so

00:51:41.820 i would rather trump just like if i'm trying to have ask what i would prefer to happen i'd say

00:51:48.540 just have him say i can't do it because it would hurt our government too much as with a lot of this

00:51:52.060 stuff the thing to me the utility that i'm enjoying because i just love writing people off and telling

00:51:56.620 people to go themselves i really enjoy catching out the people in our space who i thought might

00:52:02.780 actually be cool defending trump even after this is happening like the people i haven't seen that

00:52:09.260 what do they say because i want to know what you know it's like say i'm look i don't want to be

00:52:14.220 Okay, you don't need to mention your names.

00:52:15.620 Yeah, there's certain clubs of people who are huge fans of Mr. Trump, of Big Donnie,

00:52:24.180 and it's like, well, you know, and I think somebody they had quoted on one of their things the other day,

00:52:30.320 like, you know, he didn't release it, but let's be honest, we didn't really expect him to release it,

00:52:34.540 and it wouldn't be good politics for him to release it anyway,

00:52:36.780 so it's actually like a really smart political move for him to not release it.

00:52:40.180 All right, guys.

00:52:41.120 I don't like democracy, but for me, it's politics.

00:52:44.220 here's my thing here's and maybe we're too psychotic maybe we're too long in the tooth

00:52:51.040 and we don't want to play the game anymore but i really mean it when i say politics is whatever 0.86

00:52:56.300 the fuck i say it is yeah yeah politics is what i want and that's the method i get it i'm i'm doing 0.98

00:53:03.440 you a favor by making me politics i want those fucking names i thought i voted for that i'm not 0.99

00:53:09.480 leaving without those names we are both canadians by the way none of this matters but 0.99

00:53:15.960 of course none of this matters which is why i can say heinous things that's why i can say

00:53:21.000 oh did you expect any different like no but that should enrage you then why can't why care about

00:53:28.100 anything why he is here to yourself my point is i never expected him to do anything because i

00:53:34.640 knew before he was elected that he was bought and i didn't really care uh i mean look i think as

00:53:39.960 right-wingers we all wanted him to win but at the same time we all knew that he was bought and paid

00:53:44.220 for by israel but these guys have been his cheerleader the ones who have been saying stop

00:53:48.620 mentioning jews you need to go stay now that we've won everybody can relax and it's like where's the

00:53:53.560 winning though because you guys were blowing the trumpet that he was finally going to solve all

00:53:58.940 these problems all we were saying was i hope he wins because at least he won't kill all of us like 0.98

00:54:05.060 kamala but he's not gonna fix any of these fucking problems because he's he's bought just bought by 0.97

00:54:10.800 somebody else yeah so also they're saying like well in his own way he's trying to signal that 0.99

00:54:17.200 it is the g yeah that's why you can't say i'm like 5d shit like fuck off it's like oh so now 0.99

00:54:21.820 it's my job now i gotta take on israel like we voted for you because i don't have my finger on 0.99

00:54:27.980 the nuke button challenge accepted i don't have you won't let me have tanks if you let me have

00:54:33.440 tanks i'll get i'll find a way we'll go to israel we'll take the tanks israel is that what you want

00:54:37.600 we'll do it i'll dig in the seat cushions i'll find the money for the tanks believe you me yeah

00:54:43.540 yeah if i can offer that through our gum road we're gonna get some more subscribers if they

00:54:49.100 know the c130 up with indians right after a big luncheon and we're gonna dump them on tel aviv

00:54:54.820 if people know that the next episode of real secret coffee hours is strapping me to a bomb

00:55:00.280 and firing me at israel our subs will find a way to make that happen yeah my main goal

00:55:07.740 is to blow up and then act like i don't know nobody yeah so it's a a series of disappointments

00:55:15.380 that we knew were coming maybe not as bad as kamala but i don't know i just i want to keep

00:55:21.680 the pressure on. Did you see where he met with Zelensky as well? That was a riot. I love that.

00:55:29.940 Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military? And do you think that

00:55:35.200 it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the

00:55:39.840 administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country? A lot of questions.

00:55:44.920 Let's start from the beginning. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems. Even you,

00:55:50.860 but you have nice ocean and don't feel now but you will feel it in the future god bless you don't

00:55:57.340 know that god bless god bless you don't know don't tell us what we're gonna feel we're trying to

00:56:02.860 solve a problem don't tell us what we're gonna feel that was funny there's a lot we can say about

00:56:08.460 that i'll say a couple of things first of all let me just look at a couple so the meeting was

00:56:17.580 televised big news and the real story to me was what happened after it so i'm looking at uh the

00:56:27.260 bbc right now so first of all there's the meeting trump really lays it in lays into zelinski makes

00:56:36.460 fun of his outfit calls him short you know zelinski's stepping out of the limo trump is there

00:56:45.100 looking at the cameras

00:56:46.280 there is

00:56:50.000 he's late he loves making me wait for him

00:56:52.740 I call him up I say

00:56:54.160 Zelensky you're late where are you

00:56:55.880 he says he's at 0.99

00:56:57.920 the child sex store 0.99

00:56:59.540 I say come on 0.97

00:57:01.400 everyone used the term

00:57:05.640 everyone said he was

00:57:08.420 bullying Zelensky

00:57:09.560 which does not bode well for Zelensky

00:57:12.480 because a grown man shouldn't be bullied

00:57:14.240 yeah that's a pitiful thing to say them admitting them admitting that he was being bullied is not

00:57:20.260 it's not good yeah that's for a man who's very clearly trying to telegraph that he is if not a

00:57:29.000 general then someone who's in a war mindset he's not dressed as a military commander he's he's 0.97

00:57:34.760 dressed as an army surplus guy he's wearing fucking 19th century coal miner pajamas he is 0.98

00:57:40.380 he is wearing what we would wear 0.99

00:57:43.420 as teenagers walking

00:57:45.280 out of the army surplus store

00:57:46.660 look we got

00:57:48.900 cool looking black pants

00:57:50.920 we got a real tactical

00:57:53.160 polo

00:57:54.420 but

00:57:56.960 I believe everything

00:57:58.960 everyone says about Zelensky by the way

00:58:00.900 he's on mountains

00:58:03.140 of cocaine, he's in over his head

00:58:05.140 of course he is

00:58:06.060 look at the situation this man found himself 0.88

00:58:09.260 in he should not be here it is true that he's an entertainer no gay comedian should ever be in 0.99

00:58:15.520 charge of a fucking country just sit back remove this from the any discussion of ukrainian 1.00

00:58:21.720 sovereignty any nationalist sympathies just put yourself in the mind of this man it's a nightmare 1.00

00:58:28.640 imagine how just panic-stricken he must be and they say oh he's believing his own hype of course

00:58:34.480 he is of course who wouldn't like it's it'd lose his mind if he didn't it's an insane situation 0.97

00:58:40.500 it's like trudeau yeah shouldn't be there not even like a barely even a fucking real person 0.56

00:58:46.640 and was thrust into this situation by powers beyond his control so and they say the reason 0.78

00:58:51.860 that he's still doing this is because he believes his own hype and i said well because no one's

00:58:56.200 really given him an exit plan and i think he needs an exit plan either it's going to be torn apart 0.95

00:59:01.620 by angry ukrainians yeah or asad had an exit plan asad rode off in the fucking sunset where's 0.58

00:59:09.280 zelensky going after this because the american government as many others are not many others 0.97

00:59:15.460 actually mainly the american government but they're signaling that we're rolling this right

00:59:19.420 on up this war we're gonna end this of course the international community is signaling that

00:59:25.200 they're going to jump in. They're not. Of course, is France going to bankroll this?

00:59:31.320 Is the city of London going to bankroll this war? I mean, the Bank of England has. We'll get to that

00:59:36.620 later. But, you know, is any country really going to step in and fill the hole of America once they

00:59:41.780 exit? Of course not. So they know that. Let's be serious. And I think Zelensky, he's taking these

00:59:48.840 meetings and he's still trying to posture and they're just saying, OK, enough. But you need to

00:59:54.720 posture because here's the thing zelensky part of his exit plan the story of zelensky and this is

01:00:01.360 my prediction is going to be i stood up the international community i stood up to america

01:00:06.640 i stood up to everyone on behalf of the ukrainian people and i was dragged kicking and screaming

01:00:11.840 from this thing and he'll say yes yes yes you are a martyr you are a hero go over here now and at

01:00:19.340 least he can say face that's really what i think this is all about but for all intents and

01:00:24.600 purposes everyone knows how this is going to go it hasn't led to thermonuclear war yet so it's not

01:00:30.820 going to it's just a sad pathetic human tragedy and the there's one thing that they can never

01:00:37.660 allow to happen which is that all these ukrainians died for nothing so this i got news for you the

01:00:44.980 legacy of this war in ukraine is going to be insurmountable like you need to let say that

01:00:52.360 okay and let me just say a few words on the side of zelensky what was gained from this 0.96

01:00:59.240 if not materially um there it there is the sense that ukraine can't be fucked with easily 0.75

01:01:07.660 if you you stood up to a more powerful name does that matter if ukraine doesn't exist anymore though

01:01:14.980 like who cares if ukraine literally is gone not not not just gone from the map because it's now 0.96

01:01:20.320 like partially gone from the map but i mean demographically it's gone the women are all

01:01:25.840 overseas the men are dead so this is true what what's left of ukraine like you literally destroyed

01:01:33.060 your own country bud anything that's left of ukraine if there is a chance that can rebuild

01:01:38.500 we'll have to cling to that we'll have to cling to that and who's gonna rebuild israel saudi 0.99

01:01:43.780 arabia india america great nice how ukrainian is that going to look after 50 years you fuckwit 0.94

01:01:51.200 it's going to look like mall of america congratulations it's it's not looking good 0.91

01:01:57.680 i'm trying to make a positive argument sorry i'm trying to be like if there is anything that can be

01:02:05.480 taken from this it would be that the story of this would be we stood up to this country and

01:02:12.140 then we can't be personally for him personally the ukrainian people i don't like it's not looking

01:02:18.120 too good like you had said the what's the ratio females to men there now it's not it's very very

01:02:26.260 huge it's beyond like it's not the thing is it's not repairable it's not something that can be

01:02:33.700 fixed the damage is now done it's we're in damage control mode like can we make it stop so that it

01:02:39.620 doesn't get worse but even if it stopped tomorrow if the war stopped tomorrow the ukrainian nation

01:02:46.320 as we knew it five years ago is now a historical footnote and this is what's going through his mind

01:02:52.920 as i read this headline zelensky's conciliatory letter to trump suggests he's run out of road so

01:02:58.580 we have this big spectacle this debacle and then zelensky comes back to the table

01:03:03.980 writes a letter um so tuesday trump paused you you u.s military aid to ukraine in the wake of

01:03:12.560 the meeting raising concerns and may only be able to hold out for a matter of months and leaving

01:03:17.160 zelensky to make his peace with the situation in a letter to the u.s president he even gave

01:03:22.460 specifics on what the first stage of a peace process could involve including naval and aerial

01:03:27.580 ceasefire uh which was proposed by uh president macron over in france trump said he appreciated

01:03:33.420 in the letter uh what is more telling is the lens he's willingness to now now to sign a mineral deal

01:03:39.340 without security guarantees he's hoping for as he's portrayed as essential until very recently

01:03:45.140 so people might remember that he was saying we're not going to sign this pipeline deal unless we are

01:03:50.780 assured uh membership into the european union and now he's just saying oh yeah forget about all that

01:03:57.600 like he's a desperate man you need to be firm now because the whole idea of being bloviating

01:04:04.460 and embarrassing someone doing the humiliation ritual and then they write you a letter and say

01:04:08.120 well he's not such a bad guy no like you need to stay firm on something you need to stay firm on 0.97

01:04:13.500 a single fucking thing the people who like trump are people who are demoralized and just like 0.97

01:04:18.740 getting a win and can't stick to their own fucking principles because what he's doing 1.00

01:04:23.260 you're right is totally totally principle free um like you're you obviously didn't give a fuck 0.99

01:04:30.280 about anything that he said you said you're pro-peace but you're willing to fund it as long

01:04:33.880 as he gives you a shiny bauble right you're willing to keep funding the war as long as he

01:04:37.700 gives you a thing you're not going to send men to die which i mean if we're being honest means

01:04:42.620 the war has no chance of ever being won you will definitely lose but you will still take american

01:04:48.500 tax dollars and dump it into a war you know is going to lose where you know that millions of

01:04:53.360 innocent boys are going to die and that an entire nation will be expunged from the record

01:04:58.400 because you want to get what is it coal nickel like i'm sorry like i'm not just stepping back

01:05:06.100 from the whole thing is this actually a person that you respect talk about trump is this a guy

01:05:10.240 you actually respect like this is a guy that you you like this guy on a personal level i'm not

01:05:14.820 saying he's i'm not saying he isn't gonna make america rich i'm just saying is he actually a 1.00

01:05:18.420 person he's a good person he's a good leader no he's a piece of shit man he's a fucking animal 1.00

01:05:22.400 he's an awful fucking guy we're talking about zelinski or trump i'm talking about trump i 1.00

01:05:27.520 zelinski's barely human trump is a fucking menace i do not like as a person and again i'm not 1.00

01:05:33.740 passing judgment on his strategy i'm not saying he will or will not win or lose i'm saying as a guy 1.00

01:05:39.140 he's a fucking asshole and he's a bad dude he is actually sending he like he doesn't give a fuck 1.00

01:05:44.920 about peace everybody's like oh no but he's gonna bring peace he's not the president of war no he's 1.00

01:05:49.360 the war president and he's gonna start another one with iran give him a year and a half just 0.81

01:05:53.160 fucking wait he's gonna start a war with iran i said he's going to already so as it stands right 0.98

01:05:57.880 now i think people just like jd vance no people like the memes the fucking shrek the shrek of the 0.99

01:06:05.720 oval office well just they like and actually for what it's worth i think i like him i think he's 0.97

01:06:11.240 he's a crazy locked in terminally online guy and i'm not saying that in a pejorative sense like

01:06:19.240 he's the type of he's him and this doge thing were what i was hoping for from project 2025

01:06:25.620 you know these types of guys at the very least but remember we were covering project 2025

01:06:32.660 you know many many months ago and we did point out at the time that officially that project was

01:06:39.660 instigated by one of the largest conservative think tanks in america so it's all the old

01:06:45.680 neocon money that was proposing this i'm like okay odds are it's not going to be the terminally

01:06:52.280 online psychos that get in there but a few crept through that's what doge is it's a bunch of 1.00

01:06:57.420 of adderall 22 year olds firing fat black women like how much of what i'm impressed by 0.99

01:07:05.900 is just me imagining flashes of light in the darkness of staring into that black box you know 0.98

01:07:13.220 there i mean it just drives me nuts that there are still dudes that are i'm just i'm separating

01:07:17.180 myself from them but the people that are still like no no no this is really good it's really

01:07:21.140 great like the tariffs thing that would be another one like i get it you want to talk pragmatism i

01:07:26.220 understand why you put huge tariffs on us and on the mexicans and you didn't actually put any real

01:07:30.760 tariffs on the chinese barely even enough just enough to piss them off but not enough to have

01:07:34.600 an effect great job so you did you could do that but that's not what you said you were going to do

01:07:39.640 and also you are going to cause insane damage to your own economy and the goal that you said that

01:07:46.180 you were trying to achieve there is no metric for achieving that gold it's like iraq like you're

01:07:51.940 saying that you want to stop the flow of fentanyl okay by what metric like let's let's hear what

01:07:56.260 that oh you want to stop the stop the border okay well that's stopped so why are you still going to

01:08:00.680 put like why what are you gonna look at it this way everybody says oh but look he's already stopped

01:08:05.320 the border all right so why is he still putting 25 on mexico because 25 on imports from mexico is

01:08:11.260 going to have a huge negative impact on the economy of the u.s and if you don't agree with me then you 0.98

01:08:16.160 don't know anything about fucking economics i'm sorry this is like basic supply demand shit i'm 0.99

01:08:20.180 not saying it's going to be nice in the in the long run but in the short term it's going to be 0.99

01:08:24.180 insanely painful and nobody seems to care and then it's the thing about trump where he will

01:08:28.680 on one hand he'll be firm on mass migration which is what people wanted from him and on the other

01:08:34.440 hand he's offering these five million dollar golden tickets or saying publicly that we want

01:08:41.640 to bring in more workers than ever before to help fix our economy yeah so it's this i reject i reject

01:08:49.200 the premise that you need to bring in foreigners to fix your economy trump's policy on immigration

01:08:55.200 to this point has has been get rid of the hispanic slaves who were providing cheap construction labor

01:09:03.120 and cheap agricultural labor and replace them with foreign slaves who take over all of the

01:09:09.280 high-paid tech and management jobs like i'm not like that like i don't see how that's a good trade

01:09:16.640 maybe it's not a bad trade but it's not a good trade like what it's just it's just moving the

01:09:24.100 deck chairs rearranging the deck chairs in the titanic as they say um it's i'll tell you this

01:09:28.920 i'll tell you this the people who are going to be disadvantaged the most in the near term probably 0.99

01:09:32.420 for 10 years are the people at the bottom of the ladder are the people who are already fucked you 0.95

01:09:36.980 can't afford housing you know the people complaining about the price this is the big 0.96

01:09:40.300 joke lately people complaining about the price of eggs under biden and now under trump it's like

01:09:44.140 twice what it was under biden yep yep and it's going to continue you know what so this reminds

01:09:49.520 me of a real secret coffee hours i recorded recently and i'm not going to get too deep

01:09:58.080 into this but i was on a series i was doing the real secret coffee hours which started off

01:10:03.240 discussing one publisher in our space and it expanded out into tracking what we call dark

01:10:12.240 money flowing throughout the space and the most recent one it was uh it was a throwback article

01:10:20.200 many years ago and it was discussing the uh anti-jihadist movement do you remember that

01:10:27.780 people remember that after the iraq war there was a very strong anti-muslim

01:10:35.180 sentiment especially on the right that would have been the alt-light um they were big into that

01:10:41.760 a lot of the biggest names that are still around really rode that wave and it was showing how

01:10:49.220 that sentiment was co-opted and hijacked by zionists by jews and it was looking at figures

01:10:57.020 such as nina rosenwald who is a billionaire who funnels much of that money into these

01:11:04.020 NGOs and these charitable 1.00

01:11:05.940 organizations to distribute it

01:11:08.060 to places like

01:11:09.640 Jihad Watch

01:11:11.420 Jihad Watch which is just

01:11:13.740 one of the more popular websites 0.99

01:11:15.360 look how evil these Muslims are run by Jews 0.99

01:11:17.960 so it's Jews giving way to 1.00

01:11:19.940 Jewish organizations to

01:11:21.800 position themselves

01:11:24.200 as leading that conversation

01:11:25.820 and if you'll remember

01:11:27.020 who's this Dave Rubin guy

01:11:29.840 who shows up

01:11:30.760 where are all these sort of

01:11:33.980 right-wing adjacent people who are very strongly anti-muslim and very pro-democracy you know but 0.99

01:11:42.180 where the fuck they come from huh right but they're all jewish um and and they were being 0.99

01:11:48.740 positioned as leading the conversation but they did not create it they did not create anti-muslim 1.00

01:11:53.180 sentiment in america 9-11 did that right but they said this is an emergent phenomenon that we want

01:11:59.620 control and nina rosenwald among many others said let's just pour money over this and direct it in

01:12:06.500 a way that we want which is to say that this you're on the side of jews here no one hates muslims more

01:12:13.140 than us because of israel we are natural allies right now you can track how this money flows you

01:12:21.300 can track how much these charitable organizations allocate to these websites to these individuals to

01:12:27.060 david fucking horowitz to whoever it might be and it stops around 2019 now if you remember that's 0.62

01:12:33.740 really when we stopped caring about that narrative right you don't really hear the anti-muslim thing 0.97

01:12:38.900 much anymore they just let it die out now ask yourself did that capital evaporate did these

01:12:45.460 individuals go away did these ngos stop existing no did they change which narratives they are

01:12:53.260 funneling money over yes just just ask yourself if not the anti-jihad stuff is there another

01:13:02.020 dominant movement or narrative that jewish interests jewish money would have an interest

01:13:08.960 in controlling to say that no this is our thing you're on our side i'll give you should we talk

01:13:17.220 example let's talk about bronze age pervert let's talk about yep let's talk about these 1.00

01:13:21.880 motherfuckers. Where did he come from 1.00

01:13:24.060 and how did he get so much money even though he's

01:13:26.000 only an X account? I don't even know who he fucking was. 0.99

01:13:28.080 It's so strange. I'm just using him 0.99

01:13:30.080 as an example. I'm going to

01:13:31.900 specifically refer to the individuals

01:13:34.380 in his space that I have talked

01:13:36.080 to. I'll give you an example.

01:13:38.700 And I don't want to drill too

01:13:40.120 deep into this because I'm going to record a real secret

01:13:41.920 coffee hours over it because this is just drama.

01:13:43.880 This is just internet drama. But there's

01:13:46.040 this individual named

01:13:47.800 Captive Dreamer. He used to

01:13:49.900 follow me on x we used to follow each other right then he unfollowed me then he blocked me which

01:13:55.260 isn't surprising because he's a bronze age perfect fan um but there's a lot of bronze age perfect

01:14:00.760 fans in our space you're allowed to like that and like i'm not trying no you're not stop i i don't

01:14:07.280 i think these people can be helped like we have a lot of groipers who still listen to us i there's

01:14:12.320 some people on the border of that helped with an eight ounce hammer you you don't know how to have

01:14:18.840 friends you don't know how to give a a handshake to a man who's dying true a man who's dying in a

01:14:28.700 trench and you reach down to help him up and you shake his hand yeah reach out and pull something

01:14:33.320 out of his pocket and walk away but um the idea was that um these individuals i've spoken to

01:14:40.180 you know their big thing right now is making fun of people who they claim are obsessed with the jq

01:14:48.460 the jewish question yeah and so i'd ask them like why do you do that why is that one of the main

01:14:55.120 things that you do it seems that you'll be running cover for legitimate concerns on jewish influence

01:15:01.040 in this sector and they i'm not joking when i say this they had told me that they're trying to form

01:15:07.560 a more aristocratic form of anti-semitism they're trying to get it away from the low human capital

01:15:13.840 they're trying to put a better face on it to approach it more intelligently and i said well

01:15:19.120 oh i'll meet you there but it seems to me that what you're all doing is just being anti-anti-semites

01:15:26.700 and shutting it down so the example i gave with captive dreamer is like here's a guy who was

01:15:31.840 recently doxed i'm not going to say his name i am anti-doxing i don't celebrate when people are

01:15:37.080 doxed even but he is jewish i i don't know if he's he might be i don't know for sure we've got 0.88

01:15:42.640 his photos of his headshots he's fucking he's at least half jewish there's some people with just 0.93

01:15:47.860 real jewish heads this is a weird because it's a white guy with a bad hairline and extremely curly 0.99

01:15:53.040 brown hair so they're making fun of this guy for all the wrong reasons they said look at this 0.98

01:15:58.360 they're saying he's a lanklet which is just also true also true he's just a guy who's fucking tall 0.99

01:16:04.980 and skinny i don't give a flying hoot they're saying look at him he's got an autistic wife 0.99

01:16:10.140 how is that on aspirational i hope all my niggas get autistic wise okay you know but make fun of

01:16:19.380 him for what i'm about to say which is that you know he's says he's anti-doxing all his friends

01:16:23.780 rag nationalists these big figures they're anti-doxing but i'm looking at posts he made

01:16:30.240 where you know he sometimes he says he's anti-doxing but then there's this sequence of

01:16:35.580 posts where there was this one individual and let me just say i'm going to say a bunch of names

01:16:39.520 all these people are awful

01:16:40.780 Captive Dreamer is 0.99

01:16:43.420 doxxed by esoteric shaggyism

01:16:45.780 no one should know any of these

01:16:47.620 names, no one should know what this is

01:16:49.260 go steal grass 0.97

01:16:51.620 right, but they're

01:16:53.460 saying that there's this individual named

01:16:55.400 Garbage Human who was doxxed by

01:16:57.100 anti-Semitism watch 0.99

01:16:58.700 right, anti-Semitism watch, look at this

01:17:01.460 individual, here's their name, here's their

01:17:03.500 address, this is what anti-Semites look like

01:17:05.520 and Captive Dreamer, this 0.99

01:17:07.400 the baps for guys saying i fucking hate anti-semites look at them why do they always look 0.99

01:17:11.900 like scum these losers this is what so i'm like okay we're against we're against doxing unless 0.99

01:17:18.800 it's against anti-semites this is what i'm talking about what i'm talking about is when you're looking 0.99

01:17:25.720 at which narratives are being controlled or which narratives are being influenced even softly it's

01:17:32.080 like you know we're not we're not anti-semitic we're just trying we're working on a new type

01:17:36.680 of anti-Semitism that just necessitates that we run cover for Jews and celebrate anti-Semites

01:17:42.800 being doxed and harassed and underpersoned you know you know what I mean like you could be

01:17:48.500 mistaken for thinking all this was phylo-semitic aha but no it turns out this is just a new form 1.00

01:17:53.740 of anti-Semitism being proposed by wait for it a bunch of gay fucking Jews a bunch of weird Jewish 1.00

01:18:02.640 queers 1.00

01:18:03.320 what are the odds

01:18:08.080 what are the statistical probabilities

01:18:11.040 that this

01:18:12.400 innovation is being proposed 1.00

01:18:14.440 by a bunch of fucking Jews 1.00

01:18:16.020 like to me 1.00

01:18:18.080 the probability that it was a coincidence

01:18:20.420 was negligible

01:18:22.300 from the beginning it is absolutely

01:18:24.720 an op

01:18:25.940 and when we say op

01:18:28.580 the reason I led in this with Nina Rosenwald

01:18:30.840 which is where did the capital go

01:18:32.300 where did the influence go it doesn't necessarily mean that you are just getting money in your

01:18:37.640 account from this old lady it means that money goes to a slush fund that slush fund goes to an

01:18:43.080 NGO that NGO goes to an institute that institute is now friends with you and suddenly your life

01:18:49.420 gets easier and they say you know what I have an idea how about we how about we start massaging

01:18:56.000 the message a little bit this is just how it happens it doesn't need to be cloak and dagger 0.79

01:19:00.460 but i'm just telling you isn't it fucking weird that the people claiming to be leading the charge

01:19:06.360 in anti-semitism also seem to be using phylo-semitic tactics that just seems odd to me 0.86

01:19:12.660 call me crazy and this is just one example i'm really not trying to bog the show down with drama

01:19:17.620 stuff but use this as just a snapshot of how the entire system works of how the dark money flows

01:19:24.600 and this is the type of stuff that makes me really nihilistic because if it was just the government

01:19:29.540 okay we understand the government we're used to attacking the government once you start pulling

01:19:34.920 the threads on how the these again ngos these dark money individuals these financiers this is

01:19:41.660 epstein stuff now i'm not saying they're pedophiles i know you will but i'm saying that if you look at

01:19:47.160 epstein what does he do and i'm going to try and pull up this really great clip from a film

01:19:55.120 it's this film titled

01:19:57.600 A Very Royal Scandal

01:19:59.720 and it's

01:20:01.740 this

01:20:02.100 scene where

01:20:05.100 Prince Andrew's asking

01:20:07.420 Jeffrey Epstein for money

01:20:09.060 My ex

01:20:12.000 Sarah Fergie

01:20:13.540 yes 1.00

01:20:14.800 well she's got herself into a spot of bottle 0.95

01:20:17.800 with one of her old 1.00

01:20:19.720 secretaries

01:20:20.320 he's suing her for $125,000 1.00

01:20:24.100 in unpaid wages why you let that woman bleed you for money and I thought you 1.00

01:20:29.740 guys were divorced years ago yes well we still my father insisted that I cut her 1.00

01:20:38.020 off after well she got a pretty rotten deal I divorce so yes I tried to dollars

01:20:47.220 or pounds pounds I'm afraid obviously in the normal course of things I would

01:20:53.160 settle it myself but what were there other debts and um that thing with a fake shake what the

01:21:01.320 was he thinking so uh so money's that tight just at the moment yes sure sure you got this guy's

01:21:09.660 name yeah number i i could get that for you okay done that it's uh it's gone no vamoose forget

01:21:22.460 about it thank you thanks very much obviously i'll i'll pay you back it's my gift is there

01:21:32.620 is there anything else so i just i love that scene because that is closer to in my opinion how it

01:21:40.140 works which is it's just a favor i'm just your friend right i'm giving you're in a tight spot

01:21:45.660 yeah you know who's in a tight spot right now every single person you know you know who's in

01:21:52.700 a tight spot i can name a few people who really want to go mainstream i can think a few people

01:22:00.780 from our space who really want to be celebrities and maybe they're in debt maybe they're chased out

01:22:06.700 of their institutions maybe they were fired maybe you know what i mean maybe they're looking for

01:22:14.220 patrons you hear that we've talked about this before yeah all the people you know what we need

01:22:19.420 is patrons what we need is a billionaire oh awesome what if you find yourself in bed with

01:22:24.860 an epstein you know who took epstein money jeff careppi you actually took epstein's money who

01:22:30.060 admitted to it to richard spencer i think jeff careppi just for a transparency because i was

01:22:37.900 talking about the news item about jeff epstein and i announced that yes jeff epstein has once

01:22:43.900 contributed to the start of my youtube channel with a 25 000 check and that since then my youtube

01:22:51.500 channel has kind of taken a different direction and people were scandalized they were like jeff

01:22:57.500 is an agent of a jewish millionaire rapist and who's that person you were joking i presume no 0.96

01:23:05.340 No, no, I'm not joking. This is real. 0.99

01:23:08.040 Jeff Epstein was a founder to one of my non-profits in the U.S.

01:23:13.720 with a $25,000 check in 2015, I believe.

01:23:20.320 Wow.

01:23:22.360 You know who would take Epstein's money?

01:23:25.120 Richard Spencer.

01:23:26.460 These guys who think that I deserve the limelight.

01:23:30.680 I deserve to be in the upper strata of society.

01:23:33.100 I need friends.

01:23:33.880 i desperately need friends i desperately want patron may doesn't need patrons because he's

01:23:38.600 already rich but you can tell he thinks he deserves to be up there at those garden parties

01:23:43.800 are there people you know who are vocally obsessed with having a patron any patron

01:23:50.760 from the sound of it who would end up in that room and say oh you're making all my problems go away

01:23:55.240 great and it says okay yeah you're welcome maybe actually you know what i'm a fan of yours you know

01:24:00.760 know what might make things easier for you maybe you don't talk about this or that you know what 1.00

01:24:07.000 i mean yeah that's how this fucking happens it's gangster shit the entire world is gangster shit 1.00

01:24:15.400 if you've seen a mafia movie ever that's what it is from top to bottom politics is a 1.00

01:24:22.920 fucking facade and why why wouldn't it be with the amount of money that's floating around and 0.97

01:24:28.040 And the amount of these systems that are so complex, nobody understands them. 0.99

01:24:31.360 Anybody can take advantage of them. 0.98

01:24:32.700 Once you understand how busted this whole thing is, it's hard to figure how it couldn't just be all mafia shit all the way down. 0.97

01:24:42.220 How could it ever be anything but that? 0.97

01:24:45.020 If I'm going to teach my son this, this is what our family's probably never taught us in his clear terms.

01:24:52.340 The entire world is just relationships.

01:24:55.780 it's just relationships and power dynamics

01:24:58.900 and you understanding

01:25:00.340 what these transactions are

01:25:02.200 and most of the people you know

01:25:04.640 who are failures just didn't understand the

01:25:06.500 transaction, they didn't know the game they were playing

01:25:08.460 I'm giving one example

01:25:10.560 of dark Zionist money trying to

01:25:12.440 control the narrative on the JQ

01:25:14.500 obviously that's happening

01:25:16.680 but it's also Project 2025

01:25:18.740 trying to be controlled by

01:25:20.300 neocons, that's what happened

01:25:22.420 just think of how much narrative control

01:25:24.400 is going on in the stuff you care about because you were unprepared that society was actually

01:25:30.280 going to adopt some of this stuff now it turns out that the the biggest show in town it's a

01:25:37.080 bunch of queer jews what do you know and they're all saying that you know what 14 years old is

01:25:45.740 prime breeding age that's something captive dreamers said by the way yeah that's something 1.00

01:25:50.640 these fucking freaks say yeah that's not that's not even made up that is just like he's he's 0.97

01:25:58.000 unknown he said it a few times yeah and here's the thing i'm gonna say something that might 0.99

01:26:04.240 enrage some people not what you think i'm gonna say i would say that i'm not even sure captain

01:26:09.280 dreamer believes that i even think he was saying that to fit in but he's saying that to fit in

01:26:15.000 because that's something everyone in that sphere says because they're anti-prudes and they're

01:26:21.080 anti-moralism and if you are anti-moralism and anti-being a prude you will inevitably attract 0.99

01:26:29.940 sexual deviance and degenerates yeah it's just what fucking happens look we've been reeling 0.98

01:26:34.520 against them for a while they are not us that's i think the don't the big takeaway and people get 0.99

01:26:39.780 mad because we keep fucking bringing it up but these people this group of people never mind 0.90

01:26:43.140 whether they're jewish forget the jew thing doesn't matter the point is on this from the 0.99

01:26:47.580 standpoint of of principles and belief and the way that you live these are not us they are not even

01:26:53.340 that they're more similar to left-wingers than they are to us in the way that they view family

01:26:57.820 and women and children and faith and society they are not like us and the pedophile thing is just

01:27:04.920 the most obvious example because yeah you know who's not like us milo yiannopoulos you know 0.99

01:27:09.980 exactly a weird a weird kind of mongrel gay man who constantly is like fucking his way 0.99

01:27:17.960 through people's asses to like what how did who let this guy in the problem with milo is not that 1.00

01:27:24.820 milo is there like as milo milo's just milo the problem is the number of people who open the door 0.99

01:27:30.900 for him that's the issue the thousands of men who claim to be right wing who regularly open the door

01:27:37.520 for milo because they think they can make a hundred bucks that's the damage and you guess

01:27:42.520 who's uh milo's new friend is rag nationalist publishing milo who could have guessed who

01:27:49.620 could have guessed and promoting uh milo had a side hustle where he's selling wool and then

01:27:56.320 oh that's nice the feather ones kind of get a bit prickly but

01:28:04.340 you know like your favorite sweater or something 0.98

01:28:08.420 you know just like a fucking a brand deal fucking wool merchant and then rog nationalist was 0.99

01:28:17.100 promoting i'm like does anyone see this is the most treacherous cancer that we have ever beheld 0.99

01:28:23.720 in this phase and you just oh yeah let's get in with him and i'll just say this and we'll end it

01:28:28.880 here anybody anybody that does any sort of business or has any dealings with milo yiannopoulos

01:28:36.020 should be treated with the utmost suspicion aids man it's just aids i thought that went without

01:28:41.400 saying it turns out it turns out that's not the case it turns out i'm crazy it turns out i'm

01:28:45.560 starting problems we i had that conversation in the chat two days ago it's like or maybe it was

01:28:50.780 actually today i forgot but it's like everybody's right wing until some tranny promises to pay them

01:28:56.400 50 bucks for a spot on the show or whatever it's like yeah well i mean but like money's money's

01:29:01.120 i'm a conservative i just believe in money like you know those weren't the principles you had

01:29:04.720 yesterday the principles you had yesterday is all troons belong in the pit so uh what happened bud

01:29:12.000 everything becomes synthesized and we sort of discussed this when we were talking about the

01:29:18.640 idea of trauma but this is also sort of a hegelian dialectical idea that anything you entertain just

01:29:25.680 becomes a part of you and i would always tell people this i warn young guys of this like gen

01:29:30.960 z guys who are into playing around with you know sometimes we're bad at this and doing gay jokes

01:29:37.360 right i get that but they take it a bit too far by pretending to be trans and just saying

01:29:42.720 too much gay and it's ironic okay okay but i said look anything that's expressed ironically

01:29:49.680 on a long enough timeline just becomes your reality you're just this was known back in the 0.99

01:29:54.480 four chan days when like if you're posting trans porn and gore and things like that to spook people 0.80

01:30:02.160 or chase them away eventually you just become a guy of the 13 gigabyte trans porn folder it's 0.92

01:30:07.680 irony poisoning because it becomes i i think it just becomes a habit right you do it often enough

01:30:12.240 and then if people try to like look the fact that when we criticize these guys the fact that they

01:30:17.760 defend it rather than their first the first thing out of their mouth saying like look i get it i 0.97

01:30:23.280 understand why you would hate this it's obviously gay and dumb but it's a joke but they don't say 0.99

01:30:29.280 that they immediately defend it they say oh you're you're just a fuddy-duddy boomer prude who just 0.99

01:30:34.900 doesn't like funny jokes it's like the fact that you have that kind of defensive reaction to it 1.00

01:30:39.760 shows that it's already got its tentacles into your fucking brain and i would i say this to them 0.99

01:30:44.560 not to mock them but to warn them i say be cautious i've seen people being led astray by this 1.00

01:30:51.020 if you entertain the sort of degeneracy it will take root because you synthesize whatever you do

01:30:57.360 people are people are what they do every day all day doing it exactly that's exactly what i'm

01:31:02.360 trying to say you do it all day long it doesn't matter whether you consciously think it's a joke

01:31:06.520 or not if you do it all day long for a year then it's just you it there's no there's no distinction

01:31:12.160 between whether it was a joke or authentic it's all authentic after 12 months there's this line

01:31:17.260 from the villain in john wick for i should have just made up a different movie this was from but

01:31:22.900 i actually really like i've come to really like john wick for but uh because i didn't used to

01:31:29.020 like it that much but the villain in that he just has this line of how a person does anything is how

01:31:36.280 they do everything and i really think about that a lot because we have these grand ideas of how

01:31:42.900 we want to be portrayed but on a granular everyday level if you are an undisciplined person in your

01:31:50.820 finances or if you're sloppy and you're eating habits you're kind of sloppy and everything else

01:31:56.260 just have this dream that one day i will be perfect but it's like no you actually start

01:32:00.640 with sharpening your pencils and making sure you have your keys with you little this is the basis

01:32:06.400 of why we write off people who are like fat or dirty or don't take care of themselves like this

01:32:12.100 this has been around for a thousand years it's because if you can't bother to shave brush your

01:32:17.260 teeth and lift weights once in a while you probably are not somebody i can trust with anything

01:32:21.620 yeah and um so i really became obsessed with like everything matters everything is synthesized

01:32:28.360 or incorporated into you so you should be careful about what little things you do and what what um

01:32:35.580 maybe degeneracies you permit or you know what what excuses you make for yourself because those

01:32:42.000 become codified over time and this is my way to segue into the book i want to discuss which i

01:32:47.600 knew you were very excited about and uh it's actually it's a very fascinating book you can

01:32:54.480 really get through the thesis of it pretty fast and i agree with it and there's quite a bit of

01:33:01.120 history included in this book but we actually could get through it pretty fast and i would

01:33:06.080 encourage people to read it the book of course is the germanization of early medieval christianity

01:33:12.000 And this is a book that really pairs well with the last few books that we've covered.

01:33:17.900 And it really is the idea of synthesis.

01:33:21.300 It's this idea.

01:33:22.440 It's looking at the proselytization of the Catholic Church all throughout Europe.

01:33:26.920 And we discussed this last episode, too, by saying, why did Christianity take root in certain European countries more than in Japan, in India, with the Jews?

01:33:39.020 Because all this was attempted.

01:33:40.440 They sent missionaries all over the place.

01:33:42.000 And even those places where it does take root in Africa, it's of a different character.

01:33:47.500 Arguably, Africans don't comprehend Christianity the same way Europeans do.

01:33:52.640 However, it really took root in France, in Germany.

01:33:55.600 So what happened there? Why did that occur?

01:33:59.160 And we're going to read some sections from the book, but if I had to explain it very simply,

01:34:04.920 and I've actually had this book recommended to me by both Christians and Pagans, or Christians and Hellenists.

01:34:12.000 a few different denominations of christians as well like lutherans and catholics and eastern

01:34:16.080 orthodox they'd like this book of course it's being filled these people are filtered from

01:34:20.880 being in our space so because there's like a racial aspect to it i think people like it because

01:34:25.120 of that but um it seems to have a wider audience than i thought anyway the thesis is that as the

01:34:35.920 catholic church was being was trying to convert the germanic tribes these sort of rural people

01:34:46.000 they had to make certain concessions it actually couldn't stomp out all of their rituals or rites

01:34:53.360 they had to sell it you have to sell it to the germans i'm doing a very rudimentary explanation

01:34:57.920 of it here and we'll get to it in more detail later but the idea was you had to convince these

01:35:03.120 people to adopt these fundamental christian ideas the only way they could do that was by allowing

01:35:08.720 certain elements and character of the german peoples to not only remain with those peoples

01:35:14.720 but to feed back into the church itself so you see as you know there's that idea mcclellan

01:35:20.820 talked about that as you extend yourself you must auto amputate yourself like as you or as the empire

01:35:27.560 or the imperium expands its borders it must synthesize these new peoples and they filter

01:35:34.120 into the center that's what the uk is seeing right now with india or that's the claim indians

01:35:39.240 are making but you saw this in rome too you end up with a multicultural problem because you need

01:35:45.400 to integrate all these new types of people the same thing with the church but it was able to

01:35:50.600 integrate these these european peoples in the church which over time not only in rome but also

01:35:58.200 in germany and elsewhere it made i'd say the catholic church specifically at the time but

01:36:04.520 christianity widely in the west much more of a european institution there is a european-ness

01:36:11.960 to the church which is interesting because the religious self comes from the east

01:36:17.560 so how is it that this eastern incursion into rome we might call it took on such a profound

01:36:24.840 european character well this is one of the ways it did and it had to make concessions

01:36:29.120 to the character of the people to the folk ways it had to incorporate a lot of these

01:36:35.480 when people say like oh christmas falls upon a pagan holiday or whatever that is

01:36:40.880 there's truth to that and there's truth to a lot of the just little things and we'll get

01:36:47.400 into what those little things are and what germany brought to the table but i'll give you i'll just

01:36:53.140 read from the book first of all actually what do you think about that what i just said yeah that's

01:36:57.080 fascinating actually i hadn't ever thought of it in that context before he says here with all do

01:37:02.260 i will say he writes it in a very frustrating way um the book is written almost like he wrote it and

01:37:10.500 then put it into an llm and said make this sound smart which is something i did once in the past

01:37:17.240 just to test it out i took a paragraph i wrote and i said i put it into an llm and said the exact

01:37:23.860 prompt i gave was make this look like it was written by someone with 190 iq and it it spat

01:37:31.680 it back out with just a a lot of big words put it and it just expanded every sentence up to three

01:37:37.140 sentences and just bloated it right so i hate to say it but there's quite a bit of bloating in this

01:37:43.500 book however you know i've tried to trim it down to what i think is the most essential

01:37:46.980 it says with all due concern for the dangers of overgeneralization right away annoying way to start

01:37:53.400 the fundamental postulate oh man it's it's kind of written like a parody anyway the fundamental

01:38:00.560 postulate derived from this model is that the worldview of the indo-european greek roman and

01:38:07.740 germanic religions was essentially folk-centered and world accepting whereas the worldview of

01:38:13.860 eastern mystery religions and early christianity was essentially soteriological and eschatological

01:38:19.360 hence world rejecting equally significant and related to this distinction is the assertion

01:38:25.820 that the social structure of the germanic peoples at the time of their encounter with christianity

01:38:30.960 reflected a high level of group solidarity while the urban social environment in which early

01:38:36.560 christianity flourished was one in which alienation and normlessness or anime prevailed for christianity

01:38:43.540 to be accepted by the germanic peoples it was necessary that it be perceived as responsive to

01:38:48.760 the heroic religio-political and magical religious orientation of the germanic worldview

01:38:54.440 so there's a lot in there

01:38:56.240 the summary of his entire thesis

01:38:58.480 so one thing he's saying there is

01:39:00.440 world accepting versus world rejecting

01:39:02.560 and what he talks about with the urban

01:39:04.600 versus rural a lot of

01:39:06.680 theologians have pointed out that Christianity

01:39:08.660 especially in Rome

01:39:10.140 seemed to thrive in urban environments

01:39:12.720 where the normalcy

01:39:14.920 was in flux

01:39:15.660 people had very materialist concerns

01:39:18.060 we talked about this even last episode I believe

01:39:20.180 about how one of the

01:39:22.100 with Christianity and classical culture

01:39:24.080 by Cochran, by showing how Christianity actually spread. And there was a transition from a pagan

01:39:31.400 way of thinking to a Christian way of thinking. And a lot of that was driven just by the collapse

01:39:36.820 of the political structure in which people found most of their identities. And that seems to occur

01:39:43.060 more in cities. You have the chaos, you have the subjugation, you have people confronted

01:39:48.140 with collapse scenarios

01:39:50.740 and they seek this out.

01:39:51.980 That is not the case

01:39:53.280 in Germanic tribes.

01:39:55.080 You're dealing with people

01:39:56.040 who are very kin-centric,

01:39:58.480 folk-centered,

01:39:59.680 and it's very easy

01:40:01.780 to be socially atomized in cities.

01:40:04.040 And this was even the case

01:40:05.040 back in Rome.

01:40:06.020 Whereas in these tribes,

01:40:08.260 you needed stronger networks

01:40:10.180 to exist in a rural state,

01:40:12.120 which meant that you could not

01:40:13.960 propose Christianity

01:40:15.240 the same way you could

01:40:16.220 to an urban individual you had to make it attractive it's not obvious why they would

01:40:21.080 even need this they've got even from a non-religious perspective you can't just use the exact same

01:40:26.660 logic on these people he continues here he says distinguishing between that which is essential to

01:40:33.180 christianity and that which may be modified or omitted to advance the process of christianization

01:40:39.220 has always been a major problem for the missionary when christian essentials are considered to include

01:40:45.020 substantial elements of the proselytizing party's culture, the potential for alienating the target

01:40:50.480 society is high. When Christian essentials are minimized and indigenous cultural and religious

01:40:55.540 customs readily incorporated, the likelihood of religious syncretism increases. If the essence

01:41:03.100 of Christianity is always in a state of flux, how can any particular form or belief or observance

01:41:08.580 be deemed non-Christian? Good question. The absence of well-defined religious standards

01:41:14.200 inevitably leads to imprecision and confusion particularly since the characterization of any

01:41:20.780 aspect of a religious development is non-christian is usually interpreted as negative therefore

01:41:26.120 whenever the notion of christianization is discussed a thorough effort should be made to

01:41:30.580 determine the extent to which the distinctive soteriological esthetological core of christianity

01:41:35.800 is consciously accepted and this is something he gets into later on which is that look a lot of

01:41:42.780 Germans would be baptized. True, that's a ritual you can do. You're baptized and you're saved.

01:41:49.440 But after you're baptized, do you actually live in a Christian way? The problem they are running

01:41:54.260 into was they wouldn't. And I suspect the same thing was happening all throughout Africa.

01:41:58.720 You can sell people on the idea of being baptized, but do they pray? Do they go to church?

01:42:05.440 What is their involvement with that sort of community? Or is it just a thing you do

01:42:10.880 because you're told that's important right so they the the missionaries they said we need to

01:42:17.240 not only convince these people of baptism but to adopt these core values and to adopt the core

01:42:24.580 values you actually had to show concessions with a lot of the other rituals and values but as long

01:42:29.380 as you could transition them to a new way of thinking as cochran had said he can use here

01:42:37.060 the notion that baptism alone may be equated with conversion or christianization is not considered

01:42:42.300 acceptable from the perspective of this inquiry because you know there's people who get baptized

01:42:47.420 in china too but there are there a lot of you know chinese christians no it eventually goes

01:42:52.700 away generationally as well he kind of goes into here as well he says recent scientific research

01:42:58.860 has affirmed a genetic component to many individual personality traits such as traditionalism

01:43:04.800 alienation and aggressiveness now we know why so many of our guys like this book

01:43:09.160 genetic factors are now claimed to account for approximately 50 percent of the individual

01:43:14.420 differences in religious attitudes values and interests if combined with the notion of group

01:43:19.400 personality or centality these findings may contribute towards the development of a genetic

01:43:25.320 approach to societal religious identity if a society's religious attitudes and values

01:43:31.240 are indeed shaped by genetic factors the attempt by missionaries to alter them becomes more than

01:43:36.440 a matter of religious conversion interesting so it seems that the religion itself must take on

01:43:45.180 an ethnic character and as you adopt more ethnic identities they must coincide with that you know

01:43:53.080 i mean so it and i think the church the catholic church for certain but even more so protestantism

01:43:59.260 because protestantism in my view is the ultimate offshoot of european identity through christianity

01:44:07.340 i think a lot of people would probably agree um but i would also say the the catholic church also

01:44:13.820 maintains a lot of that ethnic identity as well in the sense that if you are an african

01:44:19.980 and you're being brought into the church you must adopt that european worldview which is also why

01:44:26.300 islam proposes such an issue because that is an arab-centric worldview if you become islamic

01:44:34.060 if you are white and you become muslim you must adopt not only arabic clothing and cuisine and

01:44:42.940 their language but also their behavior you'll start seeing white people's behaving like an

01:44:49.420 arab which is a weird thing to see i don't know why gingers take to it easier but it just seems

01:44:55.500 to be the case he gives some examples here says after christianity has been introduced into a

01:45:01.220 previously non-christian population the process of syncretism often occurs this process appears

01:45:07.200 to accelerate in those scenarios where the initial impetus is essentially social or political

01:45:12.320 and it's not superseded by a deeper religious conviction or enhanced by uh instruction the

01:45:19.520 process of syncretism is especially apparent in the emergence of ethnic forms of christianity

01:45:23.920 such as voodoo in haiti rastafarianism in jamaica santiera in the caribbean countries

01:45:29.100 and macumba in brazil examples of medieval christogermanic syncretism may be found in

01:45:35.420 the development of concepts of eigencricke and for chivalry um says similarly the anglo-saxon

01:45:44.600 missionaries did not emphasize the central satyrological or eschatological aspects of

01:45:49.660 Christianity. Instead, seeking to appeal to the Germanic regard for power, they tended to emphasize

01:45:56.620 the omnipotence of the Christian God and the temporal rewards that would bestow upon those

01:46:01.900 who accepted him through baptism and through conformity to the discipline of the church.

01:46:06.440 The most significant factors in determining an appropriate missiological approach and in

01:46:11.240 predicting missionary success appear to be the prevailing worldview of the target society,

01:46:16.180 the degree of popular satisfaction with the indigenous religion the level of target society

01:46:21.780 or socio-cultural cohesion and others so what he presents there is an interesting idea it's like

01:46:27.760 christianity seems to succeed insofar as it can integrate a lot of this sort of pagan worldview

01:46:37.320 and the pagan worldview which is what many pagans try to return to which is the worship of power

01:46:44.600 and the focus on community because that's something that the germanic people may have

01:46:50.740 brought to christianity that was not there was more of an atomized urban thing but it's like

01:46:55.460 no we are community focused we are power focused and we are not obsessed but we're concerned with

01:47:02.660 heroism so as you see those characteristics feedback in the church god becomes a bit more

01:47:09.940 omnipotent the the sacrifice of jesus becomes a bit more relevant than your individual obsession

01:47:17.660 with reaching heaven it becomes more world accepting at the start we said you know

01:47:25.780 christianity was typically world rejecting forsake this world forsake everything about it 0.89

01:47:31.160 none of it fucking matters stay focused on the divine stay focused on heaven they demand it to 0.98

01:47:37.680 be more real we must care more about this figure of jesus christ we must give we must care more 0.97

01:47:44.700 about what occurs in the real world and how that forms communities i think that's interesting what

01:47:51.760 do you think about all that yeah that's it makes sense obviously that that's the way that it would

01:47:56.520 have worked um i'm wondering how that affected it through time like this sounds we're talking about

01:48:03.080 like just near the end of Rome right yeah well yeah exactly and I do wonder if that character

01:48:10.560 is what led to prostatism because I think you need that's what I was thinking a stronger

01:48:16.980 conceptualization of who you are as a people to actually separate from the institution itself

01:48:22.660 so you're not you're which is more powerful we'll get to that in a future episode there's this

01:48:29.380 really fascinating book called the disenchantment of the world that really deals a bit more with

01:48:33.100 this but it you need a conceptualization of yourself as a people to really do that i think

01:48:40.740 the the interplay between these you know the absorbing of these ethnicities is what led to that

01:48:47.980 and made it less atomized and so by saying you know it adopted a pagan worldview isn't to say

01:48:54.500 to just deify demons or their gods or anything,

01:48:59.020 but it did incorporate these folk ways

01:49:01.480 and these kin rituals

01:49:03.600 and the relevance of the community

01:49:06.420 because in prostatism,

01:49:07.740 I think there is a focus on the church

01:49:09.480 as the center of the community.

01:49:12.220 And so there you have an acceptance

01:49:13.800 of the relevance of the community.

01:49:15.280 Why does the community even matter

01:49:17.240 in a Christian context?

01:49:18.860 It should just be your individual relationship

01:49:21.340 with God or the hereafter.

01:49:24.500 but it's not now it's this other thing now it has a concern with how to organize a tribe in a sense

01:49:31.060 and then you take that and with that you can evolve not evolve portraits of words but you know

01:49:37.200 branch off into prostitutism but it's less of a it's less of a reaction than you might think

01:49:44.760 because i do think in the original church you started to see that transformation already

01:49:50.180 He says,

01:50:20.180 From a universal salvation religion to a Germanic and eventually European folk religion.

01:50:27.280 So the transition from Christianity to a European folk religion is deeply interesting to me because I do think that is true. 0.99

01:50:37.360 I think a lot of people intuit that, but they don't say that outright because some people will say, well, it's a fucking desert religion. 0.99

01:50:46.780 You're worshiping a brown Jew. 0.99

01:50:49.080 it's like well that's not what it is if it was just that it wouldn't have taken off exactly

01:50:54.740 the ethnic character of the europeans seems to be a huge part of it while maintaining and this is

01:51:03.280 important to say while maintaining the core tenets of christianity and you know what i think like the

01:51:09.780 essential skeletal structure of that he goes on here it says germanic influence was largely

01:51:16.980 responsible according to this guy named youngman for an increased emphasis upon the dramatic and

01:51:23.220 allegorical representation of events from the life of christ in the mass and in scripture

01:51:28.500 as well as the weekly liturgical cycle and the simultaneous decline of soteriological

01:51:33.620 eschatological emphasis in the liturgy and an artistic expression also related to germanization

01:51:39.780 was the emergence of christmas festival cycles as a rival to the easter cycle interesting and

01:51:46.340 And an increased stratification of clergy and laity represented by the growing distance between the altar and the faithful, as well as the introduction of a communion rail boundary at which the communions knelt.

01:51:59.920 So it's little things like that. It's like the structure of the church, the distance or the stratification of the elites within the structure, which would have not mirrored, but been influenced by the stratification of a tribal network as well.

01:52:13.780 everything is less free flowing it is more hierarchical which was not a feature of

01:52:21.560 christianity going back to the beginning not really um he says a common feature among the

01:52:28.440 germanic peoples is the development of a concept of collective security this was closely related

01:52:34.360 to two germanic institutions family and king group on one hand and the personal lordship on

01:52:40.940 the other collective security may be considered the antithesis to enemy religious move uh the

01:52:47.120 religious movement which had flourished in the enemy urban quarters of a declining society

01:52:51.580 was not likely to meet with immediate success in a rural emerging society with a high level

01:52:57.640 of collective security unless that religious movement was represented in a manner which was

01:53:02.000 compatible with the worldview of a latter society so again returning the idea that you're not

01:53:07.860 approaching Christianity from a position of weakness. You're already in a position of

01:53:12.900 strength. You have your security guaranteed through your tribe and kin network. So what

01:53:17.560 is this thing offering? What is in it for me? Really, what do I benefit from changing

01:53:24.320 the way I look at the world? So in these instances, I think it's not even manipulative.

01:53:32.360 In some instances, you could be moving into an area of desperate people, but that's not

01:53:37.280 the case here and that's what makes it so interesting it continues on says it appears

01:53:42.220 that the primary sacral locus of most folk religions including indo-european religions

01:53:48.520 is the folk community itself the sacrality of the community is expressed in ritual ceremonies that

01:53:54.840 celebrate its relationship with its exclusive gods and promoting a strong sense of in-group

01:54:00.200 identification and loyalty historically folk religions have usually been succeeded by universal

01:54:05.920 religions and i think that's the the natural transition i'd like to focus on most of all

01:54:11.160 which is that it's not that these peoples let's use the germanic people as an example it's not

01:54:17.600 that they even really had to sacrifice much they weren't stamped out they weren't manipulated

01:54:21.860 they weren't brainwashed really it seems that they of their own free will and their own let's call

01:54:29.740 it enlightenment accepted this as long as certain concessions were made but they did accept the new

01:54:35.520 worldview they did accept the word of god eventually and so it's not oppressive in that sense

01:54:43.600 and insofar as as that character remained and fed back into the church and created that true unity

01:54:49.440 he kind of goes into what we mean by world rejection here and i think this is important

01:54:54.000 especially after we had wrapped this up soon he says world rejection uh as used herein is

01:55:00.240 brought in to include not only an extremely negative evaluation of man and society and the

01:55:06.200 exaltation of the another realm of reality as true and infinitely valuable but also attitudes of

01:55:13.720 general indifference or opposition towards the socio-biological principle of group survival

01:55:20.540 through in-group altruism in china resistance to the world rejecting elements of buddhism was

01:55:27.320 centered in the world accepting socially reinforcing confucian notions of ancestor and

01:55:33.080 emperor worship while in japan adherence to the predominantly folk-centered shinto worldview

01:55:39.480 functions similarly briefly stated it's suggested here that the prolonged existence

01:55:44.520 of these anomalous social conditions in a folk religious society predisposes that society

01:55:50.360 that particular society to religious movements with prominent world rejecting tendencies

01:55:55.560 i like those examples there of here's why buddhism struggled against confucianism and

01:56:02.640 it's easy to understand why world accepting and biology accepting versus world rejecting

01:56:10.380 and a monastic focus on the year after as a westerner they blend together but if you're

01:56:17.340 on the ground they're almost polar opposites yeah yeah um it kind of continues on here and

01:56:24.460 this is what we discussed when we talked about rodney stark and the spread of christianity to

01:56:29.980 the elites because that was a important function of its success not just constantine but the

01:56:35.820 aristocracy he said the primary appeal the primary appeal of a universal religion to a ruling elite

01:56:43.020 may be its potential as a force for enhanced social cohesion although further research in the

01:56:49.260 area of sociopolitical and religious interaction is necessary it appears that this utilitarian

01:56:55.180 view contributed towards the popular the popularity of zoroastrianism throughout the persian empire

01:57:01.900 by king cyrus in alexander the great's advocacy of hellenistic ecumenism and the expansion of the

01:57:09.340 heniyaya buddhism during the reign of indian emperor ahsoka in the expansion of buddhism

01:57:16.460 throughout china during the tang dynasty as well when the social order is disrupted by rivalry

01:57:22.540 political change or military conquest attempts to provide religious rationalization for these

01:57:27.820 developments may provoke new modes of religious thinking think back to cochran as we discussed

01:57:33.100 there in certain instances the breakdown of internal order led to messianic expectations

01:57:39.660 of the coming savior king sound familiar sound like some people you know sound like some situations

01:57:48.060 you might have found yourselves in waiting for the great philosopher king to come and unite us

01:57:52.980 are do you detect any messianic yearnings among those people that we know

01:57:59.300 i like how he gives more of a overview of the germanic peoples and what they were dealing with

01:58:09.920 at the time which might have inspired the acceptance of this he says since the early

01:58:14.660 germans could not rely on the protection and assistance of a bureaucratic empire when they

01:58:19.240 were threatened with attack or famine it was incumbent upon each man and woman of the community

01:58:23.940 to adhere to the fundamental sociobiological principle of group survival

01:58:28.640 embodied in the bonds of familial and communal solidarity.

01:58:32.820 One's status in society depended upon how closely one adhered to this fundamental principle.

01:58:38.620 Those who behaved honorably, thereby contributing to the advancement of the community,

01:58:43.280 were materially rewarded.

01:58:45.860 Instead of directly confronting this opposing value system

01:58:48.180 and attempting to radically transform it,

01:58:50.360 The missionaries apparently sought to redefine the Germanic virtues of strength, courage, and loyalty in such a manner that will reduce their incompatibility with Christian values, while at the same time enculturating Christian values as far as possible to accommodate the Germanic ethnos and worldview.

01:59:09.400 And he continues here,

01:59:39.400 violence they found the images of christian moral struggle and their heroic life stock phrases

01:59:45.180 describe the combat with the world the flesh with the devil military terms designate the saintly

01:59:51.200 hero thus even though military imagery may serve to invoke specific images such as the victory of

01:59:57.640 good angels over the demons or christ's resistance to temptation its non-christian and pre-christian

02:00:04.380 prototypes show that the heroic image had its own coherence one reason for the formidable impact of

02:00:10.620 pre-christian germanic values on medieval christian culture was that substantial germanic contribution

02:00:16.140 to the to the development of the feudal system so again just summarizing here's some areas of focus

02:00:22.700 that appealed to the germans and even those elements were heightened in christian culture

02:00:28.940 as germanic values fed back in to the central church

02:00:35.900 and i'll just end on this note because i know we've got to get going soon it says the acceptance

02:00:39.340 of christianity could not possibly cause the old germanic mode of thinking to lose its power

02:00:44.460 overnight this mentality took centuries to overcome and still has some appeal today

02:00:50.460 characteristically the stories of the conversion of the frank clovis and the lombard romu

02:00:56.140 Romuald, represent God's guidance to the fortunes of battle as the decisive elements

02:01:01.460 in the turning of Christianity. Moreover, ethics and religion were separate in Germanic paganism,

02:01:07.840 so that the supplanting of the pagan by the Christian cult did not simultaneously imply a

02:01:12.440 change in the realm of ethics. Interesting. The reception of Christianity in the Mediterranean

02:01:18.640 world might have been much the same as the Germanic world had it not been for the anomic

02:01:23.200 folk dissolving effect of the hellenistic transformation which disrupted the intimate

02:01:27.980 and stabilizing relationship between socio-political and religious fears that had existed in the

02:01:33.160 greek polis and the roman jets so again it's a very i'd argue simple thesis expressed at length

02:01:42.580 there's a lot of great examples a lot of historical depth to this but i think the case is very clear

02:01:49.720 and very strong that you know christianity survived and took on a distinct european character

02:01:57.180 by absorbing these these folk ways um that redefined the character of the church yeah

02:02:06.620 um what do you think about all that i know that point that point at the end was interesting that

02:02:11.360 saying um the way that it part of the strength of it was the way that it later integrated into

02:02:17.460 the feudal system because this was happening at the same time as the birth of the of the feudal

02:02:22.520 system so between you've got that period between beginning of the feudal system beginning of the

02:02:27.640 catholic church holy roman empire and you've got little by little almost by not i wouldn't say by

02:02:33.300 accident but you've got the church is getting itself weaved into all of these systems which

02:02:38.780 and i like look i think the feudal system for that period was the most effective thing that

02:02:45.120 they could have done so it was just it was fantastic that it happened to be associated

02:02:49.400 with christianity at that point right within rome you have christianity standing apart from

02:02:55.640 the roman imperium right but then how does it come to take on this very hierarchical institutional

02:03:03.920 arguably militaristic structure over over again over centuries over a long time but i'm like

02:03:10.440 the only way you get there is by absorbing these cultures that have a very deep appreciation

02:03:17.800 and you know obsession with you know communal bonds and community structure and mapping onto

02:03:26.020 the real world like i don't think you get the structure of the catholic church as we know it

02:03:30.220 without incorporating all these folkways because as we've seen historically there was perhaps even

02:03:37.160 more of a you know there's always christian communities even in rome um there's always

02:03:42.340 and there's this great points and we'll get to this in the next episode um we'll talk about

02:03:49.520 disenchantment of the world but there is i believe even cochran talked about this but i didn't bring

02:03:55.000 it up but i was saying one of the ways that christianity was so popular was because it

02:04:01.400 found a way to incorporate all of those who felt that they were not rejected,

02:04:08.180 but they weren't being granted what they feel that they deserved by Roman society.

02:04:14.280 So you might have even had sensitive young men.

02:04:17.680 You might have had people who had a weird sort of genius, right?

02:04:21.420 But they just didn't fit in.

02:04:22.920 They maybe had some antisocial tendencies,

02:04:25.220 but maybe they represented some other good genetic stuff.

02:04:28.060 Now they could absorb into this thing, which was already setting up its own parallel society.

02:04:34.740 That's what Christianity represented.

02:04:36.420 It was like a parallel society against Rome.

02:04:38.260 But then how did these very loose, very fluid parallel societies take the form of this much more rigid organization?

02:04:45.820 I think this is how you do it.

02:04:47.660 And you can only do that if you adopt a worldview that is not monistic, which is not just world rejecting.

02:04:55.660 And again, just to circle back to that, that really the central point here is that you go from the world rejecting nature of this mystery called religion into something that is world accepting, that is, if not explicitly pagan, but pagan in spirit or communal in spirit, which makes it not just an atomized individualistic religion.

02:05:21.100 Anyway, I know I really like this book.

02:05:23.600 I'd recommend people read it.

02:05:24.800 I'm glad you liked it, too.

02:05:27.500 Anyway, I'll let you get going.

02:05:28.900 We've got to get going.

02:05:29.680 Thank you so much for taking the time.

02:05:31.680 No worries, man.

02:05:32.600 Talk to you next time.

02:05:33.560 Yep.

02:05:33.840 See you.

02:05:34.040 hey baby i hear the blues are calling top salad and scrambled eggs

02:05:41.420 and maybe i seem a bit confused yeah maybe but i got you peg

02:05:48.380 hello this is patrick with the fundamental principle i'm here with a

02:05:54.100 important guest the guest that i uh really admire um and then we got and then but uh so

02:06:02.000 So, on the Gumroad, we're going to be releasing a book, Time to Kill.

02:06:06.780 It is about the abortion bombings in the 80s by the group Army of God.

02:06:14.400 It goes through their Christian understanding of violence and the use of force.

02:06:19.540 I'm hoping to put that out early March, April.

02:06:23.620 So, please watch out for that on the Gumroad.

02:06:26.280 And we have Jerome with us.

02:06:27.180 How are you doing, buddy?

02:06:29.060 Great to be here.

02:06:30.120 Thanks for having us.

02:06:30.840 uh dimes how are you doing fella i'm doing great man that book sounds interesting i'm gonna try to

02:06:37.200 get my grubby mitts on that the moment it's out that's right up my alley and just later thank you

02:06:42.300 so much for having me on um great fan and uh i've known dark enlightenment for i guess it must be

02:06:50.380 years now yeah well i i don't mind uh i i wear multiple hats but yes uh dimes is the host of

02:06:58.200 wonderful wonderful uh variety program long-form interviews book reviews uh chat show blood

02:07:06.360 satellite from our great white neighbor to the north or great white browning neighbor to the

02:07:13.000 north i don't know what how you would describe well first of all i like to call it a diverse show

02:07:18.360 but yeah also it was funny my co-host judas uh we would have had this discussion a long time ago but

02:07:25.160 you know we call canada the great white north and uh because of the snow because of the ice and i

02:07:31.520 remember him saying we would have been well into our 20s by this point grown man and he was like

02:07:36.460 i thought they just called us that because of all the white people and he wasn't joking and it could

02:07:42.280 be because up until you know what was it like the mid 90s canada was something like 95 white i'm

02:07:50.040 making up numbers but it was mostly that and so i think for a lot of people it was either or for

02:07:56.360 the longest time right i've i've been recently getting into hockey uh just because every other

02:08:05.280 professional sport is terrible and if you look at like the top 50 scorers for all-time hockey

02:08:15.040 right there's Wayne Gretzky

02:08:16.780 who's Canadian and then Yammer Yager

02:08:18.680 who's

02:08:19.480 Czech I think and then it's just like

02:08:22.460 Canadian guy Canadian guy Canadian guy

02:08:24.640 Canadian guy and

02:08:26.260 I'm a big

02:08:28.860 fan of the

02:08:30.240 original Canadian flag

02:08:32.700 the Ren Ensign

02:08:33.280 both because I

02:08:36.600 just am naturally

02:08:38.100 like reactionary

02:08:40.260 by temperament and I don't like new things

02:08:42.620 and I don't trust new things but

02:08:44.420 it's like it's a very stark like this is who we are we are british french irish

02:08:52.720 in north america like we we are the british isles and the french building this new society

02:09:01.660 in this harsh wilderness you know i agree completely and um for the longest time the

02:09:08.740 red ensign movement in canada i mean i was familiar with that years and years ago and

02:09:13.440 had a bit of a resurgence lately the reason i wasn't huge on it many many years ago for people

02:09:20.880 who don't know look up the canadian red ensign that was the traditional flag of canada before

02:09:27.600 we got a new one a new corporatized flag much much later but for the longest time it was the

02:09:33.200 red ensign and to that point if you see this flag flying now you can sort of divine the politics of

02:09:41.520 of whoever's flying it and i've seen more of them over the past few years um more people kind of

02:09:47.060 awakening to our points of view anyway point being that i always took issue with the flag a little

02:09:52.080 bit just because if you look at it there's the canadian shield and that's what a lot of people

02:09:57.200 when they talk about the rents and they talk about that but the flag itself

02:10:00.960 has a great big union jack on the far upper left hand corner and i always said you know they said

02:10:07.780 should bring the red ensign back bring that flag back they said you know what if we're trying to

02:10:13.060 here's what the people don't want to hear this but there is an argument to be made for the newer leaf 0.96

02:10:21.140 flag and that there's actually two good things to say they say oh they put a fucking leaf on the 0.76

02:10:26.740 flag where that come from well actually there's leaves on the red ensign too that's why they chose 0.70

02:10:32.100 leave but also they had to say look we want a flag that actually unites canada that doesn't have

02:10:39.620 the dominant anglo influence because if you're in canada the anglophones or the francophones that

02:10:46.020 would be the english and the french they've been at odds since its inception and you're never going

02:10:50.820 to have one subsume the other the canadian identity is going to be that permanent bifurcation anyway

02:10:56.900 point being that what i like about the she just the shield and you can call that the ensign too

02:11:02.340 it has it has all of the cultures and identities present encapsulated in that shield and i said

02:11:07.780 well that there that is what people find evocative that's what people find striking i think and

02:11:13.220 that's why that's becoming so popular again and then there's the three leaves in there

02:11:18.820 showing the unity of these cultures and so if if you wanted to get kind of crazy

02:11:24.900 and you could you could try and incorporate aboriginal culture into that if you wanted to

02:11:32.400 create a broader nationalist identitarian movement and there are talks of that in various sectors of

02:11:40.220 canada but as it stands right now i think that chill is probably the closest thing we've got

02:11:44.600 do you think there could ever be like a alberta kebecois nationalist uh area access in canada

02:11:52.940 where you can rectify quebec yeah well quebec would be the obvious choice because they already

02:12:00.740 do have a very strong nationalist bent to them um alberta could now what alberta represents to me

02:12:09.120 is more of an economic center rather than a coherent identity which isn't to say that they

02:12:14.160 couldn't have one they could not have some kind of and there isn't like an albertan culture there's

02:12:19.280 an albertan type of guy but you know to me the person in calgary is not terribly different than

02:12:25.360 the person in toronto i think there's there's something about the alberta culture but it looks

02:12:31.020 a lot like texas it looks it's a lot of cowboy hats it's a lot of oh let's do the same thing

02:12:37.540 as them so uh it doesn't seem as strikingly profound as what you would find in quebec but

02:12:43.700 could um but what makes them attractive to an entity like the u.s would be the oil sands and

02:12:51.560 then what they represent economically to the rest of the country so if i were america if i were

02:12:56.180 trump and i seriously wanted to annex canada which he doesn't but if he did i wouldn't go

02:13:01.720 after the whole country i would go after one province i would go after alberta do you think

02:13:06.620 like under uh canada becomes catholic do you think that there could be a uh you know melding

02:13:13.580 of like the french portion in the um and like the cowboy nature of the wild west nature of alberta

02:13:21.400 uh if it was united under one uh like the faith that's a good question um i suppose like if we

02:13:30.580 snapped our fingers and that were to happen i'm sure it could um i'll however that

02:13:36.220 quebec is the catholicism but it is also the french identity which is balanced with the

02:13:43.880 catholicism and subsumed within that but you know i tend to think that quebec is such a culturally

02:13:51.680 and historically distinct area that i don't you'd have to snap your fingers and have a lot of other

02:13:57.660 things fall into place to have that sort of horizontality in canada um maybe if alberta

02:14:04.580 became french too right but um i'm not i think it would make things easier if there was one

02:14:11.260 uniting religion like that but you know i think it would be need to be a few other things as well

02:14:18.300 but that's a that's a very speculative flight of fancy i'm going on there too sure sure um

02:14:25.240 so i guess we can start off with like how how did you come to the faith or how

02:14:30.360 you know your experiences converting into it post you know this post-covid world yeah well i would

02:14:38.020 have converted i believe pre-covid but not that far before covid because you know i would have

02:14:46.360 gotten converted a few couple years before we were married my wife and then covet happened right after

02:14:53.040 the wedding too so it was in and around there um but that's sort of the same time frame i suppose

02:15:00.480 um i don't know what led me into it was a very slow period of inquiry and also exposure to it

02:15:08.480 through because my wife was born catholic and uh i just got an exposure to it that way because she

02:15:14.880 would go to church and i would go to i just got to know it and then we were talking about this before

02:15:21.520 the show that new converts have a different approach to this than people who are raising it

02:15:27.720 so for better or worse we have sort of rationalistic priors you know if you because i was

02:15:34.500 raised i suppose it's better to set up this way i was raised not even atheistic but more agnostic

02:15:40.420 i just wasn't told anything about religion i learned about it through the simpsons i didn't

02:15:45.960 know what church was and at one point I went to a friend of mine who I think he he would have been

02:15:52.060 a Baptist I think or some a Protestant I think I went to one of the churches I just didn't know

02:15:57.020 what it was it was like this odd place I didn't so I had no context and that's an interesting

02:16:04.660 albeit anecdotal case study which is a lot of people kids are raised atheistically like their

02:16:10.560 parents will tell them that there's no god or this but if you're just raised them with nothing and

02:16:15.400 no information whatsoever what happens and what happens is they're very confused and startled by

02:16:22.040 this stuff when they just encounter it um so i wasn't raised in any way to dislike it but it had

02:16:28.520 to be i had to sort of apprehend these ideas myself and then i came to it later in life but

02:16:33.800 you come to it with a more rationalistic outlook so you know the conversion process for those who

02:16:39.960 who don't know you know you have to meet with your priest you need to get to get to know the church 0.99

02:16:46.160 and you know it's like joining a gang it's like joining the fucking hell's angels need to hang 0.89

02:16:51.180 around and it's they want to get to know you and then you should not interview but they want to 0.97

02:16:56.840 know that you're serious you know um you know there's this interesting movie i wouldn't call

02:17:02.220 it a great film but it's interesting called first reformed it was one of paul schrader's

02:17:07.560 uh later movies it's got ethan hawk it's sort of like uh like a christian taxi driver

02:17:14.760 um i i might recommend you watch it but it's a priest and there's terrorism involved in that and

02:17:23.380 he's he's having a crisis of faith as a priest and um one of the issues that he's dealing with

02:17:29.820 is all these young people who are attracted to the religion but it's very clear they're looking

02:17:34.980 for an army to join they're looking to join for political reasons and i could only imagine that

02:17:40.560 eastern orthodoxy has to deal with the exact same thing i think catholics have to deal with it

02:17:45.560 more so than lutherans because there's so many people want to join the church because they like 0.89

02:17:49.840 fucking warhammer 40k or whatever it is you know they like the aesthetics they like

02:17:54.920 the idea of joining some kind of order but they're joining for the wrong reasons and then the reasons 0.97

02:18:01.340 that caused them to join will have them leaving it within a year or two and that's sort of a trend

02:18:06.260 you see where people go from militant atheist to militant catholic and then to militant

02:18:12.200 fucking eastern orthodoxy there's like a track they go on and then they end up in 0.96

02:18:17.200 islam sometimes i guess you know but they just end up because they don't want it for 0.99

02:18:22.060 the real reasons um which would be very very inward serious uh spiritual inquiry which is

02:18:30.080 not for someone like myself and I think a lot of others that doesn't come naturally so but I had to

02:18:35.740 approach it from more of a rationalist point of view I had a lot of questions and you need to

02:18:39.440 recontextualize a lot of stuff and even after I converted and this is reflected on the show

02:18:44.780 especially recently you know I liked reading books about it you know you should you know one of the

02:18:50.320 good things about being a Catholic is you don't need to read the Bible honk honk but uh the idea

02:18:55.920 is that you you want to read thomas aquinas you want to read eastern orthodoxy writers you want

02:19:02.020 to read lutheran writers and protestant writers and get a sense of the difference between them

02:19:07.160 and i don't know like when i uh i spoke to e michael jones not long ago um well not long ago

02:19:15.020 it was like two years ago but i covered his book logos rising and some people find him a pretty

02:19:21.980 controversial figure they have you know their opinions on what he thinks about race and this

02:19:26.000 or that but i thought his writings on the history of logos and the word of god and the history of

02:19:34.700 the catholic church i thought that was very illuminating for someone like me you need stuff

02:19:38.440 like that and for for many catholics maybe they don't maybe they're raising it and they are at

02:19:43.040 peace with everything but for me it's sort of like a never-ending inquiry i suppose even even

02:19:50.000 as i'm in it um but the result of that is that i'm the one dragging my wife to church now so

02:19:59.360 you god what is it go ahead well one of the things that's that i patrick and i are both

02:20:06.560 cradle catholics who eventually kind of traded i think is is how we ended up where we ended up but

02:20:13.440 But you can't engage in a culture war, and by default, you're just engaged in a culture war, because the elites in our countries, whether that's, you know, whatever you want to say, like we put echoes around it, do whatever you want to say, like our countries are being invaded, you know, millions, billions of dollars of our tax money is being spent on, like literally making your kids, making the frogs gay, and you can't engage in any kind of cultural conflict without a cultist.

02:20:43.440 Right. You have to at least understand the battlefield you're fighting on, if only just to protect your own children.

02:20:55.300 Right. And it's really important that young men who I, you know, I I'm a 40K fan, too.

02:21:04.820 right like um if you're just in it for the aesthetics um there has to be something else

02:21:13.940 there and uh the the cool aesthetics is a result of the culture of the cult of the religious

02:21:24.580 outlook and that whole idea of secularism was like a sort of compromise after something like

02:21:32.320 30 years war which was horrible and like uh you know basically everyone who believes the nicene

02:21:38.360 creed can basically get along and we just won't choose an official religion amongst ourselves

02:21:42.620 is a temporary band-aid sort of solution over the fact that there's no such thing as a secular

02:21:52.120 society right and the problem now is we're dealing with hindu pagans and like you know

02:22:05.040 santeria cubans and buddhists and catholics and methodists and like all of this stuff

02:22:13.960 and then you have to say well uh or especially in in uh europe right islam but in the united

02:22:21.660 states right you know i live in the pacific earth west right there's so microsoft ever since that

02:22:27.560 of that one indian has taken over ceo basically just flooded the whole i5 corridor with

02:22:35.420 you know pajeet and it doesn't matter like wherever i go i go into town and thank you

02:22:45.720 very much that it's insane and uh yeah i i agree completely um and they can have the duali festival

02:22:57.620 and i'm like well what about my festival like like you know a part of me is um i don't like

02:23:05.220 personally to engage in a lot of interfaith debates and despite that they happen all the time

02:23:12.880 in our community because we have for blood salad we have a fair mix of different uh faiths we had

02:23:19.440 quite a few pagans quite a few atheists but then there's quite a few prostitutes and then catholics

02:23:24.680 and then maybe catholics are even the fewest um but these debates and these conflicts are so easy

02:23:30.820 to kick off even when they're they're good natured but uh i just don't like even wading

02:23:35.060 into those waters because you get these debates and these knife fights that go on for three days

02:23:40.800 but um i thought it occurred as i was finishing this book is actually recommended by one of my

02:23:49.240 pagan friends uh or my uh he wouldn't call him something was it a hellenist a hellenist friend

02:23:54.580 of mine at fortisax or maybe he's not he might take that i i think with those types of guys if

02:23:59.600 i say he's a hell and some people hate that so i'm just gonna say pagan because i don't want to

02:24:02.700 fandom but it's called the uh germanization of medieval christianity great book yeah i really

02:24:10.800 like that what it was interesting there's one part we won't go into the whole thing i'm sure

02:24:14.440 you probably talked about it at various points but there's an argument made that um the feedback

02:24:21.540 of the germanic peoples back into what was the catholic church was one of a few instances of

02:24:29.480 that gave the Catholic Church a distinct European-ness.

02:24:33.860 And that's something you would say to people who are like,

02:24:36.640 oh, it's just an Eastern incursion.

02:24:38.700 This is like a desert cult.

02:24:41.120 And it's like, well, not that specific church.

02:24:43.820 It's distinctly European.

02:24:44.940 And we can show exactly how that happened

02:24:47.300 and how these folkways were integrated

02:24:49.940 without actually damaging the core faith.

02:24:53.600 And so on top of that, you build from that into Lutheranism, Protestantism, Anglicanism, from that church into the larger sphere of European Christianity.

02:25:09.060 And I think it needs, because there's Christianity that's practiced elsewhere, but actually not that many places, because the book is very careful to show that, you know, they tried this in Japan, it didn't take.

02:25:20.860 They tried it with the Jews, didn't take.

02:25:23.680 You know, there's been a lot of attempts.

02:25:26.000 It seems to be kind of working in Africa, but not really in China.

02:25:29.440 So it seemed to take off in Europe.

02:25:32.580 And I think there's a strong case we made that this entire Western Christian project has an integrated European focusness or vocishness, if that's what some people like to view it as.

02:25:44.740 And then that is the bedrock that you can build some kind of unity between the Protestants and the Catholics.

02:25:53.280 you know we don't necessarily need to even snap our fingers because i say that because there's

02:25:57.800 another book that i we'd covered on the show because maybe my non-catholic friends are ripping

02:26:03.220 their hair up because i'm not mentioning it's called tri-faith america by i want to see andrew

02:26:08.740 schultz i don't think it is it's some kind of schultz andrew schultz is a terrible comedian

02:26:13.820 but uh it's about the history of protestant america in i guess the early 20th century

02:26:22.080 i mean late night yeah early 20th century and the migration waves of not only i think it's like the

02:26:30.120 second migration wave of jews there's a very specific type of jew and then catholics catholics

02:26:36.780 came in and they actually the subtitle of the book was something to the tune of how uh jews and

02:26:43.320 catholics held america to its protestant promise which is to say that there was more or less a

02:26:50.460 Protestant hegemony in America that was threatened by these two migrant groups who were holding it

02:26:55.980 up to its promise of tolerance because it's easy to be tolerant when everyone's a white Anglo-Saxon

02:27:02.720 Protestant but then you have these out groups saying well that means you must be tolerant to

02:27:06.860 me and they didn't have an answer for that and said okay okay sure and then they started all

02:27:12.140 these you know interfaith councils and I won't go into the whole history of it but there's a

02:27:17.160 A case to be made that it was these two outside groups that sort of carved out their own spaces within America, built their own institutions, and by degrees whittled away the Protestant power in America.

02:27:32.180 So there is a narrative that the Catholic was a foreign invasion.

02:27:40.200 So I'm always trying to look at different ways to say, well, is there a way to frame this in a larger European context?

02:27:47.620 So it's not even necessarily we're not we don't one doesn't necessarily need to win.

02:27:53.000 There's more unity there than between, as you had said, Hindu paganism or whatever good luck nonsense the Chinese are doing, whatever it might be.

02:28:06.300 I gave you a lot there.

02:28:08.000 well it is fundamentally right like the the contradictions in the united states right

02:28:17.780 the the right now we're kind of undergoing this this vibe shift this realignment right the

02:28:25.840 the economics aren't working out um you know ceases spends more time like listening to friends

02:28:32.800 of mine's podcasts and actually like protecting their country um which is sad for those who don't

02:28:38.620 know cc is the canadian fbi right cc spends more time like tracking dimes and jeremy mckinsey and

02:28:46.020 and other people who you know like think that canada should actually a real thing and should

02:28:49.940 be a country i always wondered if in the offices when they're listening to podcasts if there's

02:28:55.440 like some favorites you know i mean like they'll listen to they're listening to jf garepi they're

02:29:01.300 listening to stefan molly new but i'm like maybe more of them like blood satellite that's i'm just

02:29:07.320 hypothesizing right yeah right i'm i'm sure that there are and it'll be funny one of the one of

02:29:13.580 the one of the nice things about being a christian is that like when i die and you know i'll be

02:29:20.620 sitting there in purgatory with like nothing to do it'd be like i'm sorry for my sins lord

02:29:24.680 oh that guy was a fed no wonder like you know like you'll know right no way

02:29:32.860 all these sorts of things um this is not to say that any particular person is a fed or anything

02:29:39.820 but uh but the the contradictions between this anglo-protest canada and the quebecois french

02:29:51.500 canada right very much kind of that tension kind of defined the canadian project until fairly

02:29:56.620 recently and in the united states these confessional and regional tensions kind of

02:30:06.320 defined the united states until pretty recently right the north versus the south the high church

02:30:11.380 versus the low church the catholics versus the protestants and those those tensions can lead to

02:30:17.580 problems and resolving those tensions can either like cause a breakup or like one faction can win

02:30:22.800 and one faction can lose but there can be some interesting you know interesting results of

02:30:28.000 something like that like flannery o'connor is this you know wonderful catholic writer who grew up in

02:30:32.640 like the very very protestant south and she wouldn't have been what she was without that

02:30:36.800 kind of iron sharpening iron sort of thing of being around all these low church protestants all the

02:30:41.600 time uh but when you you know the modern liberal project essentially says our only dogma is that

02:30:56.120 no dogma is acceptable except ours and you're like well where do we where do we limit that dogma

02:31:04.300 right like you know like you see it all the time right with these uh james lindsey uh you know

02:31:12.520 bill maher right like i was a pot-spoken jewish hippie what's the deal with this like tranny

02:31:17.680 stuff like i thought you know i thought we were like okay with the butt marriage and and the weed

02:31:24.120 and then we were just like everyone was free and everything was cool and we were just gonna be cool

02:31:28.420 like what's the problem like confused old man who smoked too much weed for 50 years is like 0.99

02:31:32.440 wait a minute you know like oh like stuff burns down you know like yes dumbass like 0.99

02:31:40.140 you destroyed your society and now lo and behold it's destroyed and doesn't function because i will 0.99

02:31:46.220 say though i'm gonna miss that guy when he's gone because i had a old creative director at an agency

02:31:52.300 i worked at for the listeners who don't know i work in marketing but and advertising but he was

02:31:58.600 that type of guy he was would he have been a baby boomer or like an old gen x i call them old gen x

02:32:04.300 just because of how they dress but he was like that like i call them you know they're liberal

02:32:09.260 like what we call liberal progressives who still want to say the word retard you know i mean like 0.90

02:32:14.640 they they are listen to black voices but also they kind of want to make racist jokes you know 0.56

02:32:21.580 i thought we were i thought we were cool i thought everyone was we legalized weed in canada

02:32:26.020 and i really think every single one of them thought that everything was going to be cool

02:32:30.380 from then on because they really do think that if everyone gets high then we it's like john

02:32:36.200 lennon's imagine this was the generation that really really took that to heart and so but one 0.98

02:32:42.500 day they're going to be gone and i think i'm going to miss him i'm going to miss that type of dumbass 0.95

02:32:47.940 just being around yeah well and of course bill maher is you know half jewish half half catholic 0.90

02:32:54.960 who was liberal and you know is all like wait you know i grew up in this wonderful environment and

02:33:00.800 it was so wonderful and i we don't know when i had to lock any doors and then but also like

02:33:05.600 celebrates with you know shannon osborne yeah because the older he gets the more confused

02:33:10.940 he's gonna get it's like his entire show was a club random one of the one of america's worst

02:33:17.080 shows but he's just on there with the gen x rest which is like a t-shirt and then i think like a

02:33:24.040 like he's just like he gets on he's confused with a guest for an hour and why society is the way it

02:33:32.040 is i'm like i'm watching this guy disintegrate this man evaporate before my eyes but i'm like

02:33:38.040 i'm gonna miss the evaporating guys

02:33:54.040 oh sorry i had myself muted uh he he couldn't right he's sitting there with sharon osborne

02:34:01.420 you know the other michelin and it's so great that london's not english anymore but also like

02:34:08.220 i grew up at a cohesive society and like no one had to lock the doors and that was great

02:34:14.280 and my parents were married even though they didn't like each other uh

02:34:19.220 but you know well bro one thing led to the other yeah bill mars it's wild because i saw two clips

02:34:30.300 back to back and i believe they were released in quick succession one was him saying what you just

02:34:36.460 said which was like i'm glad that england is english anymore and it's just a hodgepodge or

02:34:42.140 a polyglot boarding house whatever it might be and then next week he's on his show saying

02:34:47.640 things were a lot better when the white people when the white men were in charge and then the

02:34:52.640 crowd cheering and i'm looking i'm like what do you think is going on i i just i puzzle at these

02:34:59.600 people i don't know if i can get that i'm just in a permanent state of being enraged but i'm also 0.96

02:35:05.700 old as shit so i can't be angry with the vigor of a 23 year old me but i'm just i'm in awe that 0.89

02:35:12.580 i'm like what is it like to be you and they use that term cognitive dissonance but 0.99

02:35:17.180 i i do wonder i'm like which part do you think is more true i think we know because like you said

02:35:23.720 bill maher he's one of the i can't think of a person who was more hostile towards white christian

02:35:30.540 america than bill maher for most of his life and then i guess he's just pivoted because 0.87

02:35:37.140 they just started chopping kids balls off you know what happened there i'm like you happen that's you 0.94

02:35:43.140 i'm gonna point at you until you die that this was all you and your friends and that's one thing 0.98

02:35:49.560 that guys like him they have this power that i've never been able to really wrap my head around

02:35:55.680 which is that they can literally deny that the things they said a year ago right e michael jones

02:36:01.840 is like you're blaming boomers for destroying america but you might as well blame all right

02:36:07.120 handed people like dr jones i love you i've interviewed you you're wonderful in a lot of

02:36:11.260 ways but yeah but you're completely wrong this one you got the same thing where people everyone

02:36:17.240 just because you interviewed him like i did anytime he says something bad they bring it to

02:36:22.180 you so so look what your boy's doing like well you have to answer for that now i'm like i'm sorry

02:36:27.980 i don't know like this is the problem with running interview shows indeed um yeah i'm gonna get like

02:36:34.520 did you know he's canadian like look at what just did you noted like i i yeah i know um

02:36:42.540 if justin castro's gay dude why did you talk to dimes like

02:36:46.660 like we were the first ones calling it gay yeah we were the we would we knew the thing um

02:36:54.020 and we've been saying he's been justin castro's kid forever we're on to the next thing yeah um

02:37:00.180 yeah that's the funny thing about trudeau though that we hated him for so long that when everyone

02:37:06.960 else started hating him which was really during covid that's when you start seeing the by the way

02:37:13.480 i apologize if i've been cursing on the show i don't want to have a misconstrue about your audience

02:37:19.080 but uh the f trudeau bumper stickers they start coming out really during covet but i'm like

02:37:25.160 he's been the same guy the whole time it's been like four or five years what happened you know

02:37:31.860 but we've been against him the entire time he's been a freak the whole time he's been smiling 0.98

02:37:36.700 wrong he's been dressing up in odd costumes his head's all fucked up looking you know i mean like 0.97

02:37:43.080 what changed um so yeah no he's been terrible the entire time and he's he's just he's been 0.95

02:37:49.580 awful and um you know i i'm pretty sympathetic to canada for lots of reasons um well here's the

02:37:58.940 thing the one of the ways i wasn't sympathetic was because again he was voted in um in sort of

02:38:05.900 a nepotistic sort of way honestly a lot of people voted for him because they liked his hair i'm not

02:38:11.320 joking and they'll still stand by that now if you ask them and his head of hair is serviceable

02:38:17.680 yes but that and also they really really wanted weed legalized and he became the weed guy and

02:38:25.740 then weed was legalized here and it was already practically legal for the entire time no one got

02:38:31.340 arrested for smoking weed in Canada but he made it official my view on that is that it leads to

02:38:38.340 schizophrenia eventually that's because that's one of the studies that they don't like to talk

02:38:42.560 about but yeah it's good friend he goes up but whatever i guess you know well and not only that

02:38:46.800 but like i i'm you know my mid-40s now so like how many guys did i you know i graduated from

02:38:54.980 high school in the late 90s um and i'm like that last guy in many ways i'm the last guy out you

02:39:03.040 grabbing the the skid on the on the helicopter out of hanoi right i i was able to like get married

02:39:09.740 and have kids without being completely destroyed and i i reckon remember a normal america nobody

02:39:16.580 who's younger than me you know remembers normal america as an adult i was a young man but i but 0.90

02:39:22.360 i remember like a normal world you know me too that's fucking that's weird isn't it and it doesn't

02:39:28.320 and i know at least half a dozen people well or did who were you know bright people with a future 0.75

02:39:43.580 who literally just smoked it they smoked their future away and they're probably

02:39:51.240 dozens to scores in my circle of acquaintances who just made weed their personality and it ruined

02:40:02.800 their lives yeah look at it this way when you behold an addict of meth of crack of anything

02:40:11.140 you witness them and you want to help them if you feel pity you want to drag them out of that hole 0.99

02:40:18.080 when you see someone that addicted to weed you want to kill them 1.00

02:40:23.180 like there's no pity for the weed at least beat them severely 0.99

02:40:29.360 like there's nothing worse than a guy who's like too into weed and that's not only their

02:40:36.860 personality that's their politics and that you you know you saw this with like a steven

02:40:42.920 crowder when he's on joe rogan where he said you know maybe marijuana isn't a miracle drug from

02:40:49.580 god and that he freaked out on steven crowder like you can't admit that weed is a little bit bad 0.92

02:40:55.900 like you smoke it you inhale smoke maybe vaping's different right or cbd and all that shit but 0.91

02:41:01.280 i'm like you have to understand if you're taking bong rips all throughout the day that has to have 0.70

02:41:07.400 an effect you know i mean i'm a guy like i used to drink all the time i haven't drank in four

02:41:12.900 years but you know i there's an understanding that this pickles your brain and there's no

02:41:19.920 understanding in the world of weed for most of them weed world right well and and this is the

02:41:30.160 this is you know where i put on my reactionary cap if democracy gets you justin trudeau

02:41:36.100 or george w bush or whatever like what use is democracy right like he has nice hair you know

02:41:42.560 i've pointed this out but like for at least the last 30 years like the the election in the united

02:41:51.040 states has been like whichever president presidential candidate made the most housewives

02:41:57.680 feel funny in like ohio and pennsylvania like it's the same thing up here and that was my original

02:42:05.600 1984 to like 2016 or you know the it was like

02:42:13.820 can i see like it was like barack obama's that handsome foreign lover type or whatever like

02:42:22.240 you know what okay barack obama's probably the best example because they had said that trudeau

02:42:26.520 was like our obama i heard real people say that and that was the point i was making just to

02:42:31.260 circle back to that which is that trudeau was voted in once he was terrible for many many years

02:42:36.980 and then he was voted in again resoundingly and that really made me rejigger my expectations

02:42:44.720 i thought well obviously the canadians are going to vote more conservative and maybe the p

02:42:49.480 my my fixation at that point was on the people's party of canada the ppc which is not a far right

02:42:56.920 party but it's further right i would call it more aggressively libertarian but the leader

02:43:02.400 maxime bernier he talks more openly about migration issues he's he echoed a lot of

02:43:08.200 not most but enough things that we would talk about that the conservatives never would

02:43:13.960 and i just saw them get curb stomped every election like they would get one percent and

02:43:21.640 then they would get less than one percent the next one so i'm like this isn't even trending

02:43:25.780 in the right direction because you know it's a i wouldn't call it a third party because within

02:43:30.980 canada there's several parties but it's it's understood there's two main parties liberal

02:43:35.240 and conservative then the satellites around that so the ndp is further left than liberals

02:43:40.520 the ppc would be further right but the idea was okay if we can see that the ppc is trending up

02:43:47.500 that means they're going to force the conservatives to reckon with the fact that people

02:43:52.760 are becoming more attracted to that sort of speech but then if it's going the opposite direction which

02:43:58.720 it did i'm like okay so then i i really feel like a minority in my own country there's really no one

02:44:05.480 or not enough people who are really on my side with any of this with like the basics on is

02:44:12.720 mass migration bad now it's changed within the past couple of years but for a while there i'm

02:44:17.620 it was so flooded yeah for a while then i'm like i don't know what do i do i don't actually don't

02:44:23.160 know because in america you had trump and the one thing trump did regardless of what you feel about

02:44:27.300 trump the first time and the second time was like maybe i'm not alone maybe there's something maybe 0.91

02:44:34.940 there's a momentum maybe i'm not crazy because you've been told you're crazy your whole life

02:44:40.560 so on a personal level i think people are invigorated by that like there was nothing

02:44:45.060 like that up here so it's a very lonely path to walk and you feel like it's not impossible but

02:44:51.060 you realize that you need to start further back way yes back well like uh i've paid as reasonably

02:44:59.100 close to close attention to kidding and politics for probably 20 years now in fact more than 20

02:45:04.240 years because i can remember um when ezra levant and mark stein uh got sued under section 13

02:45:15.680 and they got it repealed and i like donated money

02:45:19.420 to ezra all those years ago like like good luck finding my credit card buddy um you know when he

02:45:28.480 was still at the western standard before he started rebel news and this this is you know

02:45:32.180 ancient history now but um because i saw then and i still believe that you know all anglophone

02:45:38.360 nations are kind of under the same spell of like this anglo-liberal philosophy and that it like

02:45:44.060 it was going to if it was a problem in america or if it was a problem in canada it was going to come

02:45:48.180 to the united states it was going to come to australia it was going to come to new zealand

02:45:50.940 and eventually like you know be a problem in europe and you see that like essentially in the

02:45:56.740 60s like every every anglophone nation was like you know we don't have this this uh population of

02:46:03.400 like um obstinate africans who are just like a constant like better around our ankle that we

02:46:11.140 have to drag around everywhere we should have one so we're like america you know like and you see

02:46:17.720 them all doing this and it's crazy right it's absolutely insane that anyone would be like you 1.00

02:46:22.140 know what we need this unassemblable population of really stupid people who are incredibly violent 1.00

02:46:27.200 yeah um and and you see it in canada in the united kingdom um in europe to a lesser extent and 1.00

02:46:34.840 the the fact that trudeau sucks and has always sucked 0.98

02:46:44.580 is is you know is obvious to those who should pay attention the problem was 0.99

02:46:50.300 is that in 2007 right the opposition to trudeau wasn't uh someone who actually got their head

02:46:59.740 on straight it was ezra levant and i i used to like ezra and now i understand what a poisonous

02:47:07.560 uh uh person he is and i don't particularly care for him but you know is that through control of

02:47:15.940 the discourse and that maybe um you know with your advertising advertising background i think

02:47:21.260 that's one of the very valuable things you bring to the table how much of what people think is just

02:47:27.000 you know the expectations set by the media and advertising is insane right because because like

02:47:33.140 oh look at those crazy people who believe the crazy things and then you're like well i guess

02:47:38.440 they're crazy like well no maxi bda is is not my cuppa but he's way more sane than anybody else 0.97

02:47:44.800 you know jagmeet shing this uh you know this pajit with the ndp who's basically like 0.99

02:47:50.400 all white people must give us all their money forever 0.91

02:47:53.220 yeah like a lot of them you know everyone who's listening to this show and listens to our show 0.95

02:48:01.540 is probably used to being heterodox they're used to getting fired or losing relationships or you

02:48:10.160 know having these fights every time you see your family but most people don't want to do that

02:48:15.360 and the problem is that the media has a profound cooling effect on all of us you know one of the

02:48:21.820 things an example of that even on our side was um a lot of people think this is one a controversial

02:48:28.120 take but the unite the right rally you everyone kind of remembers that maybe they don't i don't

02:48:33.500 know if young people remember that but that had one of the most insane cooling effects i've ever

02:48:39.920 we became the pitiless censors of ourselves after unite the right people remember before and after

02:48:46.080 that it was really after that that everyone started policing the language looking for feds

02:48:51.440 looking for people who would get them in trouble um everyone really clammed up and we haven't

02:48:57.360 really emerged from that in my opinion because like you i've been around for quite some time

02:49:03.040 the show's been around for many years but you know i've been around so i remember before and

02:49:08.560 after that so people may not remember a time where we weren't always ravenously accusing each other

02:49:14.020 being feds and worried that you know incorrectly or incorrectly that uh there's a lot of stuff we

02:49:20.960 can't talk about um yeah so the idea is that the media can also control that so in canada especially

02:49:29.100 you feel very alone with these ideas you can't talk about it openly they do as you'd said make

02:49:34.180 you feel like you are crazy and then they turn you know it's okay if the media convinces you 0.84

02:49:41.580 that you're crazy you don't give a shit right but they'll convince your friends and your family and 0.97

02:49:45.740 most people don't want to sacrifice all of their relationships and it's difficult for me to ask 0.99

02:49:52.780 young men to even go on that path with me because you know i'm already on it even with like face 0.96

02:49:58.240 doxing and stuff people say unless you've unless your identity is revealed you're a coward and you

02:50:05.260 should get offline and you should really so i can't make that argument for people i don't want

02:50:10.780 to tell young men to unnecessarily sacrifice their jobs their careers their the careers of their moms

02:50:18.300 or their wives or whoever you know i mean i think it's irresponsible for people to be saying that if

02:50:24.720 you stay if your stated goal is the well-being of your people you know anyway we're getting off

02:50:33.180 track there a little bit that's just well i think it's i think it's worth talking about because i

02:50:37.940 i'm probably in a fairly unique position in it that i i've talked to almost everyone who's

02:50:42.820 supposed to speak at unite the right at one time or other in the last 15 years but i've been around

02:50:46.560 for that long and so you know 15 years ago wasn't that hard to be in touch with literally everybody

02:50:51.580 you just had to be on twitter and you know be willing to talk to people um and one of the things

02:50:59.900 that is is changing but is nevertheless still a risk is right um in germany you can get arrested

02:51:08.060 for making fun of a politician you know public figures in you know americans are uniquely

02:51:15.180 privileged white one of the reasons i talk to canadians talk to south africans talk to you know

02:51:21.420 new zealand people in new zealand kiwis and or or people in the uk is that i have a first amendment

02:51:26.900 right and so i feel like i have to talk about my brothers in these other countries um because i

02:51:33.920 have the right that they don't and you know watching people get their bank account taken

02:51:41.140 for like just supporting the truckers you know was was insane and in like scary and uh you know

02:51:50.040 depressing and um and god bless those guys who you know persevered and uh you know i think several

02:51:57.780 of them got their their stuff overturned and some people have won court cases but you know most

02:52:01.960 people just don't have the resources to fight that sort of thing or the psychological like

02:52:06.480 psychological strength and they don't have the kind of relationships that that uh would enable

02:52:11.900 them to just you know support that like how many people got divorced over covid yeah how many how

02:52:17.880 many people lost you know people i know people committed i know of people who committed suicide

02:52:23.680 i know people that you know like don't talk to me anymore um because i didn't get vaccinated i

02:52:28.660 know people who don't uh you know don't uh have non-vax people in their homes you know five years

02:52:35.520 later it's been five years um since the world lost its mind really and uh that's all media

02:52:43.780 and i think that what uh our side of the fence has done better than anything that we've done

02:52:49.720 and now there's been a lot of mistakes and a lot of pluses and minuses since that uh august day in

02:52:56.860 2017 and i know several people that were there like i was not there myself but i know lots of

02:53:02.720 people who were there um and the thing that we didn't understand is that we were going to war

02:53:13.160 with the system and the system is both vastly powerful and evil and what we've done in the

02:53:20.060 years since slowly is kind of undermine its legitimacy and replace its information systems

02:53:27.660 with our own like I don't need to watch CBC anymore I can just listen to yourself or Jeremy

02:53:35.020 McKenzie or Fortisax or you know whatever there's a number of Canadian stuff I'm all new right like

02:53:42.880 if i want to know what's going on in canada i have sources yeah and also let me just say that

02:53:48.100 i'm sure there's a lot of crossover with your show and the third rail so there might very well

02:53:54.040 be a lot of you know trs listeners who tune in we've always defended or at least i've always

02:53:59.900 defended the unite the right rally um because i remember in the wake of that event a lot of people

02:54:05.640 denounced it and said they should have done that and i took the opposite approach i said 0.92

02:54:09.720 they should have done it every month this should be happening all the fucking time

02:54:14.040 and i agree completely and you know john mcdonald johnny mcdonald right the first 0.93

02:54:20.880 prime minister uh whatever you might think of him is is the founder of this country and a statesman

02:54:27.440 and and someone important in history right and essentially the logic of the people who were

02:54:34.940 against or who are pro taking down the lee statue has extended to canada and they're starting to

02:54:42.180 take down statues of johnny mcdonald's like well there were no slaves in canada yeah yeah oh and

02:54:47.640 also just to touch on the robbie lee statue and we've gone on record fairly recently by saying

02:54:53.280 that you remember when they actually burned and melted down the robbie lee statue and all of the

02:54:58.640 conservatives the conservo sphere was up in arms about that how dare they and that really evoking

02:55:04.920 photo of the red

02:55:07.080 melting face Robert E. Lee

02:55:08.960 was circulating. That will make me angry till the day

02:55:10.980 I die. I said, you guys,

02:55:13.040 I don't hear the United to Right

02:55:14.820 rally brought up because they were the only people 1.00

02:55:16.920 trying to save that fucking statue. 1.00

02:55:19.760 None of you. Where were 1.00

02:55:20.880 you? Where were you? Where

02:55:22.800 the fuck was Tucker Carlson? Where were 0.99

02:55:24.800 any of these people? And now you want

02:55:26.800 to get mad? Fucking spare me. 1.00

02:55:29.180 And the same thing with Sir Johnny McDonald. There's 0.99

02:55:30.780 only a few people up here who are

02:55:32.760 really standing by our first

02:55:34.740 prime minister who's got statues in my hometown where i was born in kingston ontario canada

02:55:41.780 um that was also where he was born and that's where the original parliament of canada actually

02:55:46.400 was that's why there's their city hall is so cool but uh there's statues everywhere and here's a

02:55:52.000 funny story um a little inside baseball for those who don't know a lot of the statues they took down

02:55:57.920 so john mcdonald i know of at least two they'd never melted them down they just put them into

02:56:03.940 storage because like you had said there really was no reason this was just some kind of reciprocal

02:56:10.300 you know this is the thing we're doing now we're taking down colonial stuff but even the cities

02:56:17.500 that you found them and just put them in a storage because they're like we'll put them back up later

02:56:21.460 we don't know what's going on but there is this understanding up here that this is silly and made

02:56:27.640 up however what infuriates me is that even in canada in my hometown of kingsland they had this

02:56:34.860 very famous pub called sir john a's public house which was the place that he would go

02:56:42.560 to drink because he was a fall down drunk which is very cool is from an a an era where politicians

02:56:50.740 were all drunk and shooting each other it was a great time to be and he was scottish like you

02:56:55.640 expect a scott you know who's living in like the only difference between scotland and nova scotia

02:57:01.720 is nova scotia's got worse weather like you know that's why like you know as i said i used to be a

02:57:07.220 pretty big drunk and i haven't drank for a while i'm like man i'm just really stuck out of time

02:57:11.180 because if i was back then i could have been running everything if we're judging this by

02:57:16.100 how successful a drunk is by how much they drink but they changed the name of sir john's public

02:57:22.800 those were just the public house and then it closed down a year after but i'm like that's a

02:57:26.880 piece of history that was still in operation that the owner felt guilty about the name and that 0.95

02:57:34.260 obviously chased away all the legacy people who go there just because the fucking imagine the go 0.69

02:57:39.280 to george washington's bar and then they just changed the name to the the wash house what the 0.99

02:57:46.660 fuck and then it's disgrace well but and and this brings up the religious thing right like 0.98

02:57:52.440 there's this anti-white anti-western anti-christian animus is religious in character 1.00

02:57:59.820 it's not rational it's not like a uh we made this argument and therefore these things like no it's

02:58:07.040 just a this is bad because we think it's bad for for religious reasons and and this is why

02:58:15.240 this whole like go along get along neutrality christianity is useless because we'll because

02:58:22.260 you're you're dealing with a religion we're not dealing with a

02:58:27.360 uh an argument like you and i can have an argument about the united states annexing alberta

02:58:35.560 but we share base premises and these people just don't they they their base premise is like

02:58:44.960 anything white christian or european is bad yeah and it doesn't take them long to admit that

02:58:52.920 this is i'm promised not trying to make this all about israel but one of the lines i would say to

02:58:58.540 people in attempting to reveal zionist influence in america i would say you're dealing with two

02:59:05.880 major political parties that cannot even come to terms on what gender means or if borders should

02:59:13.140 exist but the one thing that they agree on is that israel is our greatest ally and deserves

02:59:17.700 an infinite money cheat code right but that is to highlight that we don't share any of the

02:59:24.420 definitions of this other side and by the other side there's a lot of different titles you could

02:59:30.420 give it and they're all somewhat valid so you know edward dutton and the biology side would say these 0.85

02:59:37.060 are dysgenic people and they would be right oftentimes they are just straight mentally ill 0.90

02:59:42.820 and ugly and gross spiteful mutants is the terminology he uses that someone else might say 0.96

02:59:48.180 oh they're marxist cultural marxist or marxist that is true and that's true insofar that 0.70

02:59:53.780 marxism tends to attract the dysgenic a lot of the time or it is also the failure of liberalism

03:00:00.740 to present a counterpoint to the question just like we're saying

03:00:04.580 with uh tri-faith america that book the protestant nation was unable to answer the questions posed to

03:00:12.300 it but why don't you tolerate us as well which is in fact what happened in canada and we discussed

03:00:18.040 this in the short film i did with a few other people called paving over the public and it was

03:00:24.280 the history of mass migration in canada how did canada become this multicultural nation and like

03:00:31.700 a lot of places we were not tolerant towards immigration but perhaps more tolerant towards

03:00:37.320 european migration but then not even that much because back then based on public opinion polls

03:00:42.700 we didn't like ukrainian migration that much either right but they're like you know there's

03:00:48.220 always understood there's always understood that we will you certainly don't want africans however

03:00:53.260 over the course of the preceding decades certain groups certain ngos certain agitation groups said

03:01:01.380 well why not africans why not the indians and they didn't have an answer to that because they

03:01:07.020 didn't want to sound racist but it was those who were posing the question they are involved

03:01:12.100 as well and so there's many different inputs to this problem but kind of it's the outside

03:01:18.880 attacking this one coherent center this one sort of ethno not an ethnogenesis but a identitarian

03:01:27.020 center trying to fracture it as much as possible yeah like an ethno-religious cultural stronghold

03:01:33.220 that they're all just and you know to to be perfectly fair to the wasp american like

03:01:38.620 the catholics did team up with the jews to attack the wasps in america like that is that is a fact

03:01:44.940 it was a mistake right and that's why i say like it did happen but what now what can we do let's

03:01:54.320 let's operate with that historical knowledge and say what can we do to bridge the gap to you know

03:02:01.500 whatever might be for our own survival and that's underscoring this entire thing is we are speaking

03:02:07.140 in terms of our actual survival because this ends with people like i always tell people you are in

03:02:14.920 a race war right now this is what it feels like it's slow and it's a slow boil but this is basically

03:02:23.400 we talk about all the time we fill our shows with reporting on it every insane egregious act every

03:02:31.180 criminal that gets away with it the society's tolerance of it george floyd like this this is

03:02:38.200 it this is what it feels like so when we talk about this it's not just complaining about the

03:02:42.680 news it's like well this is in the interest of our survival and it is important to talk about it

03:02:47.340 It is important to explain this to people

03:02:49.480 because the problem is so big to so many normal people

03:02:53.500 that they can't even look at it.

03:02:55.840 They can't believe that it's that big.

03:02:58.140 And when you talk to them, your family, your friends,

03:03:01.280 reasonable people, intelligent people, successful people,

03:03:04.140 this problem is so multifaceted

03:03:06.360 that it's like looking at the great old ones

03:03:11.520 from Lovecraft or something.

03:03:12.860 You look at it, you kind of go insane.

03:03:15.980 But that's a hard sell.

03:03:17.160 it's hard to tell my mom that look over here be insane like me but it's it's a process you have

03:03:24.280 to kind of walk them through as well so i think you might be muted as well no i i was muted i

03:03:36.880 was looking something up a hockey stat um uh but anyway like

03:03:43.400 right so mark messier could like the top this is just the top 10

03:03:51.400 hockey scorers of all time wayne gresky has

03:03:57.040 more points than anybody else by like a huge margin he has more more assists than

03:04:02.820 the next lady scorer right yammer jagger uh mark messier gordon howe ron francis

03:04:10.040 Marcel Dion, Steve Yazerman

03:04:12.160 Mario Lemieux, Joe Sackick

03:04:13.920 and Phil Esposito

03:04:15.000 like all of those guys are Canadian

03:04:17.220 I believe it

03:04:20.900 I mean because

03:04:21.660 hockey up here is like

03:04:23.760 football in America

03:04:25.360 in the sense that a lot of guys

03:04:28.100 even if they don't follow it professionally

03:04:29.980 they played it as a kid

03:04:31.940 like I played hockey for many

03:04:34.040 many years growing up

03:04:35.040 I don't know if that's the case anymore

03:04:37.080 but like you said I come from an era

03:04:39.760 where everyone played it if it wasn't on the ice it was street hockey or road hockeys yeah

03:04:45.700 right now you have to other other than yammer jaeger and ovechkin's number 11

03:04:53.060 so this is this is from quant hockey.com and i'm bringing this up for a reason not just because

03:04:59.160 like i like hockey but like okay so the top 20 leading scorers in the history of the nhl

03:05:09.080 number two is january agar a check number 11 is alexander ovechkin a russian

03:05:17.260 number 18 is timu samolami from finland and

03:05:23.520 uh 23 is yaru kari in finland and number 25 is brett hull who's american and he's canadian

03:05:33.660 So, an American dual citizen.

03:05:37.500 Everybody else on that list is Canadian.

03:05:41.460 Gordie Howe, Ron Francis, Marcel Dion, Steve Yashman, Mario Lemieux, Sid Crosby, Joe Sackick, Phil Esposito, Ray Baruch, Joe Thornton, Mark Ritchie, right?

03:05:53.980 and most people aren't interested in thinking about culture a lot they just want to live their

03:06:05.080 culture and to them you know and i i'm slightly jealous that the uh the show title honky night

03:06:12.680 in canada that's just brilliant for anybody who's ever watched coach sherry uh

03:06:18.420 the the idea that you need to turn a critical eye towards something as foundational as the red

03:06:31.200 ensign or hockey or you know pick your thing right in the united states uh the the stars and stripes

03:06:41.460 or the stars and bars right like most people aren't equipped to do that temperamentally

03:06:47.000 they're not equipped to to be like well i love this thing but also i'm going to be really critical

03:06:53.300 of it that's true and it's a very difficult thing to do right because i want to be the guy that like

03:07:03.880 you know just just hears the star-spangled banner and like gets like the manly tear in my eye and

03:07:09.240 holds my hand over my heart but i also have this like seething hatred of what the united states

03:07:13.680 has become because you know usa stands for usury sodomy and abortion right like like that's what

03:07:19.960 that that's you know for practical purposes that's what we do right like like usury via our central

03:07:26.320 bank and and we're like an economic forum and and you know the uh world bank right like

03:07:33.980 we have this you know dollar dominance and we use it to make sure like look you have to make 1.00

03:07:44.160 sure that people could do butt sex and butt squat we're going to spread condoms and pay for 1.00

03:07:48.140 abortions and like like my roads look like the dark side of the moon and you're you're killing 0.99

03:07:54.200 babies in vietnam with my money like what that's insane like why that's what i loved about that

03:08:06.300 recent news despite what you might think or anyone might think about elon musk and the doge thing

03:08:11.800 and but revealing where so much taxpayer money was specifically going uh it really did show that

03:08:19.900 what a lot of people had intuited for many years like none of this can be organic none of this has

03:08:24.140 just a emergent cultural revolution that the younger generation is just super gay no it's like

03:08:30.040 hundreds of billions of dollars were directed at trying to normalize this stuff not only

03:08:35.260 in america but abroad through soft propagandistic power in every all throughout africa the middle

03:08:41.980 east trans theater whatever it might be think of a kooky thing and your tax dollars were going

03:08:49.720 to like directly promote it to your children and the children of others around the world i think

03:08:54.920 i've talked about this but i guarantee you you're an ad guy like what is with like every ad has a

03:09:00.640 hot redhead or a hot blonde with a black dude i think it's probably even worse in the uk almost

03:09:06.980 everything i see coming out of because also looking at this way it tilts more towards a state sponsored

03:09:13.620 ads too like if you look at the bbc it seems that their shows they push a very specific type

03:09:19.400 of interracial pairing that we all know but then even the private companies maybe it's less but

03:09:25.140 then you know oh this is an official government mandate which means that they would prefer

03:09:30.240 ads that also reflect this um there's probably a lot of reasons for that because everyone knows

03:09:36.360 when they talk about diversity it just means more black and a lot of conservatives get hung up on

03:09:41.820 it's like well if it was real diversity you would have more asians and indians but what you really

03:09:46.180 want to say is i don't want none of that i think i don't like that it's just more black people i

03:09:51.000 also don't want more uh asians or anything right but uh you know the reason that is maybe that goes

03:10:01.080 away maybe that's on its way out it'll take maybe a couple more years um i don't know because

03:10:08.960 everyone talked about the super bowl ads if you looked at the super bowl ads in trump's america

03:10:13.360 they were still multiracial or even pro-black however all those ads would have been recorded

03:10:21.080 and shot and planned like nine months ago so maybe there is some cultural reverberating factors that

03:10:27.200 will kind of usher some of that out and maybe that aspect of wokeness is going away only because

03:10:34.940 it's just gay and no one likes it um but you are correct in saying the fact that it is mostly

03:10:43.860 black male plus white female means that they're prioritizing a black male narrative which is 0.92

03:10:52.900 you know separate than the black female narrative like there's almost two anti-white narratives

03:10:58.800 going on at the same time because the black female one is almost more theory based and the 0.71

03:11:03.620 black male one is just purely destructive and it's purely like violent and humiliating um whereas 0.98

03:11:10.220 like if you like the people the types who are embracing marxist theory are the black women so 0.99

03:11:15.260 it's a different thing um so the why would be probably anything you could imagine which is

03:11:21.220 just like they're trying to deface and defile what they think is a white male thing they're

03:11:26.780 trying to enrage a demographic that they don't they either don't think is important or they

03:11:31.780 don't want to be important anymore so there's an economic case we made that well you could

03:11:37.700 show that they need you um this is what happened with bud light you know some people think we're

03:11:43.840 past that but i'm like no return to that bully bud light mash their face into the mud and make 0.92

03:11:50.820 them feel stupid for what they did it's not going to win every battle but it's one that you did win 0.97

03:11:56.100 win it's how you win this is this is the um you can just do things right but like i'm i'm not 0.86

03:12:04.180 100 sold on trump because i want results i want i want more results there's been a lot of great

03:12:13.020 talk i i want the u.s out of germany like i want nato gone um because nato right now is like

03:12:20.340 city of london bureaucrats and brussels bureaucrats being like you know your kids 0.55

03:12:24.180 need to get drafted and die so that we can have to continue to have our cushy jobs and the u.s

03:12:30.620 government is on the hook for our military while we did while we spend money on a welfare state 1.00

03:12:34.680 and like have these muslims invade and you can't visit like notre dame cathedral because muslims 0.96

03:12:40.680 burn it down as a as catholic but and you've got to pay for it but also like just this these all 0.97

03:12:49.160 these contradictions right and uh you know trump to the extent that he exposes this stuff and

03:12:55.680 causes these problems and i i will be the first to admit that um he's he's done a lot of good

03:13:02.740 things in terms of talking i am personally waiting to see until he actually implements things before

03:13:08.520 i you know just go you know all in but if he does what he says he's you know if he implements the

03:13:14.900 stuff he's said in the last month he will be the greatest president in the history of the united

03:13:17.900 states period yeah and also i'm no trump fan boy and we've been clear on that on the show that when

03:13:26.060 he does something that you like you should cheer when he does something you don't like

03:13:30.340 get up in his grill do what you've been doing which is everything within your power and sometimes

03:13:37.120 that's just stirring up stuff online but that does move the needle because if it doesn't then why do 0.99

03:13:43.120 anything if it doesn't then delete your fucking account you see what i'm saying but um i don't 0.98

03:13:49.620 i'm not trust the plan guy and there's a lot of people who they like what trump's doing so they're 1.00

03:13:54.040 saying okay trust the plan lem do what he does like no you gain nothing from trusting the plan

03:13:59.160 you i can guarantee you that you'll you won't get what you want if you shut up

03:14:03.520 if you voice your opinion i'm not trying to be a populist here but if you get angry online you

03:14:10.560 maybe have a 1% chance but it's better than nothing which is all you get when you shut up

03:14:15.320 so hold him to account you should you should know what you want you should like it when you get

03:14:21.680 closer to that and I'm not of the mind that we benefit by further persecution and I know that's

03:14:28.760 a divisive topic on this side that anytime you know we I'll give you the example and I'm not

03:14:36.840 trying to throw anyone under the bus but i remember there was some controversy with devon stack from

03:14:42.920 black build who i'm a great fan of and as are many of our listeners um he had said that it was bad

03:14:49.020 that the january 6 prisoners were being released because that served to radicalize us uh our side

03:14:57.840 and i had said everyone said oh he's too black pilled and i said well if there's one guy who's

03:15:04.260 allowed to be black billed would it not be the guy named black bill like i if donald trump elected

03:15:11.300 himself king i could tune into king pilled and expect him to have some positive thoughts about

03:15:17.980 that you know i mean so i'm like yeah if there's one guy's allowed to be black billed sure however

03:15:21.440 i disagreed insofar as i don't think we benefit from that if that were the case and we would

03:15:27.020 benefit from that chilling effect that unite the right cause did any of us benefit from that did

03:15:32.740 Do any of us benefit from James Fields being in prison?

03:15:36.520 No.

03:15:37.860 Furthermore, the January 6th guys,

03:15:40.540 all we're doing is having other people be on the line for us.

03:15:46.120 And then it didn't help us at all.

03:15:48.140 And if they're released, I don't think that makes it worse for us.

03:15:50.660 And I think any freedom that we have to say what we want is better.

03:15:58.240 I don't think we're more effective the more we're persecuted.

03:16:02.740 And some people disagree with that because they're accelerationists in the sense they need to.

03:16:08.240 You're completely correct in that.

03:16:11.380 Not only, like, if we wanted to really state that REB's tattoo, United Rights should have been like, you know, should have been the convicting thing that conservatives have been like, look, man, if only the neon Nazis are the ones smart enough to understand that.

03:16:27.680 and you know some conservatives did understand this um Canadian notable Canadian columnist and

03:16:34.100 um you know former guest host for Rush Limbaugh pointed this out this is like

03:16:38.960 no you're you're ceding the ground and once you cede once you cede the principle you've ceded the

03:16:45.000 whole argument um I think I think pickup artists are generally kind of degenerate I'm not a fan

03:16:50.140 because I have kids but one of the things that they said years ago is completely true and that's

03:16:55.280 by the frame by the farm and if you if you buy into the leftist frame of the argument

03:17:02.080 then you've seated 90 of it and you're just debating over whether like you know

03:17:09.680 well i don't think that plugs should be mandatory to go to public school like you shouldn't have to

03:17:15.600 wear one right what was that meme you probably know what it is but it was like conservatives

03:17:23.360 from the year 2037 and it was like you know back in the day we had base trannies we had the real

03:17:30.720 trannies i don't like these new ones you know i mean like they just and i guess i don't want to

03:17:36.080 even for this show necessarily make it all about race but you see this with the multi-polarity

03:17:41.620 advocates sometimes where they get you to agree that whiteness is inherently evil and then they'll

03:17:48.940 go to europeans a lot of the time and try and convince and make them and make oh we're not white 0.97

03:17:53.840 i'm not white i'm italian i'm not white i'm irish i hate white people too so you recruit europeans

03:18:00.600 into hating whiteness however everyone around the world from africans to middle easterners to south 0.83

03:18:07.980 americans they know that white just means european so you're not really fooling anyone

03:18:13.440 where it really matters you're not in ensuring your own survival and you can go and i always

03:18:18.220 use this example you know go to a bar in nigeria and you've got an irishman a frenchman

03:18:25.720 and a anglo you're the three white guys and you could debate all day about the ethnography and

03:18:34.140 the history between them they don't the world doesn't care china doesn't care they have one

03:18:39.460 word for you and it's like the white guy so but they try and get you to enter their frame by

03:18:45.240 getting white people to accept that whiteness is evil well you know it's been a theme of the show

03:18:49.900 that uh you know god is white supremacist if being on time and uh having the agency to do prayers 0.96

03:18:57.220 and even just just um

03:18:59.140 what do you want to do spreading the faith like this is these are all things we're called to do

03:19:06.060 but like this is going to be done by the white man you know you know pushing back and i guess

03:19:10.840 not to use to use uh cultural marxism as a foil um catholicism at the end of the day is uh you

03:19:18.760 know a white supremacy religion you know you have to be polite you have to use manners you have to

03:19:24.120 not sin um and that's you know in inherent to as the christian as europe um so i you know it

03:19:32.200 definitely i i'm glad you guys are pushing back on the multi-polarity stuff um as america declines

03:19:39.480 sure there's going to be a rise in you know power uh taking power vacuums sure absolutely um but

03:19:46.120 that doesn't mean we need to cheer it on yeah and also just so if people don't listen to blood

03:19:52.360 satellite one of the things we do nearly every episode we read a book i've been i treat these

03:19:57.320 ideas very seriously we've read books from leftists i do a show with my friend the prudentialist

03:20:02.680 called do you even read and we cover a lot of like leftist literature we treat seriously we read it

03:20:07.800 thoroughly um i usually don't come out the other end liking it but even with the multiplayer guys

03:20:14.040 we've read dugan and we've i've spoken to many multiplayer guys and i'm

03:20:18.680 i'm open-minded insofar as i want to treat these ideas seriously however i do

03:20:23.640 at the end of it i'm very clear what i don't like about it or where i think you know here's

03:20:28.840 some parts i do like here's some parts i don't like overall i i think it's an op in some sense

03:20:35.480 um i'd only use that word too uh frivolously and i don't you know there's some multiplayer

03:20:41.000 guys who listen to our show but they know where i stand you know they're not going to be

03:20:44.760 surprised by this but i'm like honestly i i think this is this works against the interests of my

03:20:53.420 people well the great joe sobran i'm sure you've heard the quote before but uh you know he said

03:21:01.900 that like the the rest of the world like sees everything and i i could pull it up but i don't

03:21:10.240 remember it exactly but basically paraphrasing the great joe so brad

03:21:13.120 we're resented because everyone else is a white supremacist too

03:21:18.280 right like like how do you know a black guy has made in the nba white model girlfriend right like 0.92

03:21:27.160 how like the middle eastern guys who were in europe what do they want they want a blonde german

03:21:32.580 girlfriend why right like you know the chinese will flex on each other but like i can't digest

03:21:40.160 milk but i'm gonna drink a bunch of it and like you know you know like it and and some of them

03:21:48.140 have civilizations that are you know something to be proud of the japanese chinese um you know

03:21:54.400 some other parts of asia but but the simple fact of the matter is that up until the last five years

03:22:07.920 maybe from the year 1500 to certainly

03:22:17.680 the year 2010 world history was a contest between bearded white guys

03:22:22.640 from you know subs you know tertiary seas of the north atlantic right like the mediterranean

03:22:29.040 the north sea the the uh uh gulf of you know bay of bothia right like

03:22:39.600 yeah right like rut like the only people that mattered were europeans

03:22:47.280 some people never have right like you can make a case of the indians subcontinental indians or

03:22:51.280 the chinese or the japanese or whatever have mattered in world history but

03:22:58.320 i agree completely i'd say that even our appreciation of these ancient cultures is

03:23:04.480 symptomatic of our whiteness is i'm not sure that china has the same reverence for india

03:23:10.960 that white people do and there's any vice versa india does not have the same reference for china

03:23:15.360 that europeans do because we have a deeper more inquisitive mind uh into the deep history which 0.77

03:23:22.400 is why we had we had to use so many fucking museums we're obsessed with that one example i

03:23:27.520 would give uh just to add on to what you were saying and i don't know where you or your audience 0.83

03:23:33.200 land on the moon landing but i'm going to use it to illustrate this point that the reason we went

03:23:39.360 to the moon was because it was there and something was pulling us there that ultimate frontier

03:23:46.240 the reason everyone else wants to go to the moon is because white people went there

03:23:51.520 and that's been the case of human history there's you know there is a unmistakable and profound

03:23:57.840 confidence that comes with being a westerner i'm using that term very broadly what a european

03:24:02.960 and maybe i'm just speaking more in the anglo context because that's my prejudice but there's 0.98

03:24:07.760 There's always been a profound confidence of I'm going to do this and I actually don't give a fuck what any of you think. 0.97

03:24:13.600 I'm going to go to the bottom of the ocean. 0.98

03:24:15.320 It would never occur to any of you to want to go to the bottom of the ocean.

03:24:19.820 In fact, we're made fun of constantly for wanting to do that.

03:24:23.300 You ever hear a black person talk about what white people are up to? 0.86

03:24:26.480 They don't understand why we want to climb the tallest mountain. 1.00

03:24:29.740 They think it's silly. 1.00

03:24:30.860 They think it's white people shit. 1.00

03:24:32.780 And you know what? 1.00

03:24:34.480 As I've gotten older, I actually just agree with them. 1.00

03:24:37.220 yeah it is white people shit you're right it's just our thing it's our weird thing we like to do 1.00

03:24:41.620 you don't get it none of you will ever get it but we don't dick what you think doesn't fucking 1.00

03:24:48.920 dictate what we do and you'll never understand that either and and it's why you'll never do what 0.81

03:24:57.900 we've done that's why we want to go to mars how many indians want to go to mars none you want to

03:25:05.240 work for elon musk kind of because you want to be in like a palace but you know and there's a

03:25:10.380 there's a religious argument i understand that we shouldn't they'd go to mars if there were

03:25:16.260 if there were white women there yes but but but also i i don't even want to get into the whole

03:25:22.960 like transhumanist space travel thing there's i spoke with a good friend of mine named last things

03:25:28.400 um on this very topic about what is the sort of the christian or religious or even spiritual

03:25:34.740 response to wanting to colonize other planets i don't even want to rehash that here but

03:25:39.860 just to say that there is there's something driving us to do that that is not present i

03:25:45.400 don't think in other groups no and and uh this is this is the joe sober what i was thinking of

03:25:51.800 joe sober and a staunch traditionalist catholic himself uh the concept of envy the hatred of

03:25:58.520 superior has dropped out of our moral vocabulary liberalism has fuzzy ideas of historical guilt

03:26:03.420 but not original sin or pride or envy which is pride's obverse the idea that white christian

03:26:10.040 civilization is hated more for its virtues than its sins doesn't occur to us because it's not a

03:26:14.960 nice idea none of the sins aren't considerable but to the envious sin is more forgivable than virtue

03:26:20.500 western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible

03:26:26.960 it's western exploration science and the conquest that have revealed the world to itself

03:26:32.200 all the races feel like subjects of western power long after colonialism imperialism and slavery

03:26:37.980 have disappeared the charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility but only baffled

03:26:43.620 goodwill because they don't grasp what it really means humiliation the white man presents an image 0.78

03:26:49.180 of superiority even when he isn't conscious of it and superiority excites envy destroying white 0.79

03:26:55.800 civilization is the inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call quote minorities

03:27:00.300 joe sobram liberty equality and diversity and and to to bring that back to canada real quick

03:27:07.140 right the the bajit has literally no athletic accomplishments whatsoever like the the of the

03:27:16.340 medals won by india 1.4 billion people right by itself and if you add add in bangladesh and

03:27:23.980 pakistan we're looking at you know 1.7 billion people because pakistan's got like 200 billion

03:27:28.600 people and bangladesh is 100 million people right look at look at bangladesh look it's it's the size

03:27:36.240 of like nebraska and it has 80 million people in it you you white man cannot fathom the number of

03:27:44.480 people that just living cheek by jowl on top of each other in squalor that you can't imagine

03:27:48.660 yeah have you seen like i always encourage people like go look at videos if you can of what it's

03:27:55.160 like to just live in egypt like what is everyone kind of imagines what a favela looks like in south

03:28:00.820 america but really just look at the urban sprawl that these people live in it's it's suffocating

03:28:07.300 you feel sick looking at it sometimes if you really try to imagine what it's like to be in

03:28:11.620 there right and cairo is the most dense city in the world and it's it's been done so with like

03:28:16.220 our tax dollars the average average egyptian lives off two dollars a day of russian of russian

03:28:20.960 and ukrainian wheat that are like baked into these little bread things that are like uh

03:28:25.280 like pita breads that's what they live on and it's u.s u.s tax scholars that buy russian and

03:28:32.520 ukrainian wheat and there was nearly a riot at the top of the government a couple years ago when

03:28:37.660 the war kicked off in ukraine over the spike in food prices because um they just can't afford it 0.81

03:28:44.020 But, you know, the Indians in Canada, right, we, you know, the Quebecois can make fun of, we are Quebecois, we are the true faith, you are a bunch of LARP Anglo-Pagans with your pointy noses, right?

03:29:00.900 right they just see white guys and the canada um you know the canadian grammy awards

03:29:11.360 um are called the juno and the reason they're called the junos is that canada had its own beach

03:29:18.260 in the second world war juno beach so this one little country had its entire theater the canadian

03:29:25.880 army in world war one was so fierce that they were the best imperial troops these broad-shouldered

03:29:34.760 scottish irish white boys who'd been fed on beef and mutton right they were who farmed in ontario

03:29:45.500 and the prairies of manitoba and saskatchewan and alberto and log the pacific northwest of

03:29:51.460 of uh you know british columbia they were bigger they were better they were stronger

03:29:55.660 than the the brits at home who hadn't really been fed a real diet in 1914 and 1915 and all the way

03:30:03.440 into the all the way into the 1940s uh you know the the average indian man has the grip strength

03:30:10.920 of a polish woman like so they go into canada right and they see these tall good looking

03:30:20.000 anglo-ukrainian you know and yeah there was some resentment about the ukrainians but like

03:30:25.200 they're just going to saskatchewan right like who right they're going to saskatchewan they're

03:30:30.980 going to minnetoba like let them let them have that part um they're gonna go farm the wheat

03:30:36.880 on this frozen hellscape they should be used to that uh but you look at these guys

03:30:43.720 and even though they're desperate to get over here and they lie about their credentials and

03:30:52.460 they lie about what they're doing and they lie about all these other things they resent the

03:30:57.980 canadian for just being better than they are for being taller for being better looking for

03:31:05.560 building a better place than they could build for for not living in filth like like yeah you don't 0.99

03:31:12.340 live in filth lol like no i don't because it's fucking disgusting because you have to think about 0.96

03:31:17.360 where they're coming from too which is that they've probably been led to believe that canada and 0.99

03:31:23.660 america and europe are so good just by luck of geography you know they have that sort of

03:31:31.120 guns germs and steel understanding of history is like they're only rich just because

03:31:35.640 luck of the draw and there's no difference between us and we could just swap ourselves

03:31:41.060 in there and just reap the rewards and then they get here and realize they are completely ill-equipped

03:31:46.660 for this lifestyle they don't understand they probably feel alien once they get here as they

03:31:52.880 should um but there's that great quote the civilization is incommunicable you know there's

03:31:59.380 a book i read recently that i'm sure many have read which is the camp of the saints i reviewed

03:32:04.540 that with a friend of mine t.r hudson on his show cannon fodder you can find i think it's like an

03:32:09.940 hour and a half where i actually go through the entire book but that's what this is about like the

03:32:14.340 seething bitterness the the embracing of the identity of the other that they feel like they

03:32:23.160 see themselves as outsiders they see themselves like i i've gotten into debates with um a couple

03:32:29.220 muslims before because i pointed out to them like do you guys realize that you speak of yourselves

03:32:34.440 as if you're a swarm of locusts like you'll hear them talk and they'll say guess what we're going 0.96

03:32:39.600 to outbreed you and before long you're gonna be brown just like as i said you talk of yourself

03:32:45.420 as if you're a play there's no dignity in how you describe yourselves do you notice that and i

03:32:52.020 actually don't think they do but they just like in camp of the saints they they see themselves

03:32:56.300 as this sort of eternal like entropic periphery just swarming in and they don't have a plan b 0.55

03:33:04.900 they don't give a shit what happens and they just feel like you know i always have the line you know 0.89

03:33:08.680 you are not owed proximity to white people why so i this is a little bit more of my esoteric take 0.98

03:33:15.360 is that you know without everything that's not with christ is against christ or is it pagan or

03:33:21.180 it's opposite but like you know especially like these muslims or the indians like i'm sure there's

03:33:27.540 demons all over this these countries the only thing that's going to drive them out is a good

03:33:31.760 priest and it's they don't have any access to that but like it's a sin and it's uh you know

03:33:37.260 it's a sin to live it's it's living in filth is a product of sin you know it uh the aggression or

03:33:43.340 the the lack of ability to control oneself is is a product of sin um so a lot of it i their their

03:33:51.140 animalistic behavior i i think a lot of it just comes from demonic influences like you talked

03:33:56.220 about recently i forget the episode but it was about the uh the aztecs and their um they had

03:34:04.180 feminism um yeah yeah that was um the book was i believe sex and culture by jd unwin and um it was

03:34:13.100 an interesting one it was asex and there's a couple other examples in there too and the the

03:34:18.060 point of that whole part was to show that some people will say that female empowerment or feminism

03:34:23.780 comes from the enlightenment or it's a often they'll say it's like a christian influence and

03:34:29.460 was shown that no it's this strange emergent phenomena that you get in these tribal cultures

03:34:35.580 oftentimes with a pretty rudimentary understanding of the world so it's not even really linked to

03:34:43.340 social advancement i was just saying that the conflict between men and women is so much deeper

03:34:48.920 than just the enlightenment or any sort of ideology or religion or anything it's something

03:34:56.440 And I think all these things try and reconcile to various degrees.

03:35:00.680 Well, it's biological, right?

03:35:02.020 Like we're just different.

03:35:04.000 And men and women are strangers to each other.

03:35:07.020 And like I've been married 20 years, you know, like I and still there are times when I'm like, what the hell was she thinking?

03:35:16.520 And I'm sure she feels the same way, right?

03:35:18.060 Like that's just the way things are.

03:35:20.120 And it's only within the sacrament of marriage and that you can even begin to kind of reconcile that.

03:35:26.440 that you like because men's it's just women's difference are inherently different right like

03:35:33.140 economics 101 right like sexual marketplace 101 like sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive 1.00

03:35:39.140 and you know the women's interest is like to have like one or two kids with like a really high value

03:35:45.960 dude and then just coast off of that for the rest of your life and like do what you can to make sure

03:35:50.940 your kids are successful and then men you know like you want to like you want the entire scoop

03:35:55.780 with neapol and ice cream like you want the blonde boon and the redhead right like and

03:35:59.480 naturally right those conflict and marriage like is the best christian marriage is the best

03:36:07.620 reconciling of those two things and these non-european non-christian people right like

03:36:14.440 the indians had saint thomas the apostle show up to their country and be like let me tell you

03:36:21.660 this jesus guy and they rejected him and they had saint francis xavier the greatest missionary

03:36:29.660 jesuit come back to them and try and tell them about you know and and some of them to their

03:36:35.660 credit you know in goa or some of the thomas christians like they accepted but the vast

03:36:40.460 majority of indians were like nah man we're cool with these demons and

03:36:44.860 that led to you know a certain outcome of a society and it's a terrible society it's it's 0.95

03:36:53.180 it's filthy it's disgusting it's it's like viscerally just off-putting there's all kinds of 0.99

03:37:01.180 of sexual abuse and rape and poverty and i mean like they eat rats man like that's just 0.98

03:37:08.460 just it's funny i'm reminded of this like i mean just just the idea of it just gives me the willies 0.97

03:37:16.560 it's just sick it's weird it's it's gross evil as i say it reminds me of this book we read quite a

03:37:22.100 while ago um it's titled heirs to forgotten kingdoms journeys into the disappearing region

03:37:28.600 of religions rather of the middle east written by gerard russell so it's this guy um typical you

03:37:34.460 know liberal journalistic type who's just going all throughout the middle east going through iraq

03:37:39.280 iran afghanistan and looking at these um these pre-islamic pre-christian religions and seeing

03:37:47.820 what has happened to them he goes into you know uh egypt as well um and uh the ones that haven't

03:37:55.440 just been consumed by islam and there's maybe only five thousand like the zoroastrians would

03:38:00.980 have been one um and uh mandeans would be another the mithras uh is in there as well and uh he goes

03:38:09.720 in his communities he talks to them and they're all very nice as they are to all outsiders i'm

03:38:15.220 sure once he describes what these religions believe maybe i'm just too white of a guy 0.99

03:38:21.460 but when they say you know their god is a giant flaming peacock with fucking you know talons for 0.99

03:38:29.480 teeth i'm like well that just sounds like a demon that sounds like pazuzu you know what i mean that 0.99

03:38:34.280 sounds like every every one of their gods sounds like a horrible demon

03:38:39.960 literally the psalm is saying like all the gods of the gentiles are demons like

03:38:46.460 i mean if that's what he's dealing with i can kind of understand you know like

03:38:50.640 this is and this notion that like you could take this person who thinks it's

03:38:55.700 um my friends at the over at the old glory club uh have a wonderful live stream on thursday nights

03:39:01.520 and my friend picanon is is a uh a frequent co-host but anytime they mention an indian

03:39:09.060 they'll they'll you know play a train noise because astonishing numbers of indian men 0.99

03:39:13.600 get hit by trains every year dude they just walk into trains yeah fuck and and you know 0.99

03:39:19.720 i'm kind of the train autist right like the reason they do it is a they don't believe 0.99

03:39:27.160 when you believe in reincarnation but the the stakes for life are very low like oh well you know

03:39:35.100 if i die now i'll just come back right so moral behavior is not incentivized in the first place

03:39:41.640 building for the future is not incentivized uh but also they have this insane culture

03:39:47.960 where like it's considered cool and brave to just ignore obvious hazards

03:39:53.520 they're the ones keeping live leak in business like they're keeping those lights on you know

03:40:00.300 well that's a good point though that the difference between linear time and cyclical

03:40:04.460 time and one of the great sources of that was logos rising from e michael jones but this is a

03:40:09.500 very old idea um the the idea of permanence the idea like if you believe everything is cyclical

03:40:15.460 and you're in the cali cycle and nothing really matters um you're you're powerless within this

03:40:22.380 system um but within linear time you are a fixed point just like the death and resurrection of

03:40:28.500 christ that was a one-time event it doesn't happen every 10 000 years so that he lived and he died

03:40:33.920 and he lived again and he's the son of god like that happened once and so your cartesian placement

03:40:39.520 within that linear time you're also a one-time thing you're not going to come back and that's

03:40:44.920 important that actually governs how you interact with the world in so many different ways and that

03:40:51.440 the way you just described never even occurred to me i'm like well that that just must for many of

03:40:56.380 them i would say most of them they must just not see themselves a is important or sovereign here

03:41:02.780 but also who gives a shit i can just die because i'll come back like it's a video game like yeah 0.98

03:41:08.980 just respawn but with us like it's like it's a one-time thing make sure you fucking get it right 0.97

03:41:15.900 and that sort of spiritual or metaphysical permanence really separates the western mind

03:41:22.640 from the eastern mind i'm not speaking to the chinese mind i think that that's obviously

03:41:27.420 different than the indian mind but yeah i don't even want to speak to that we'll keep this within

03:41:31.820 idea right but how can you let millions of people with that kind of mindset just show up in your

03:41:41.420 country and expect things to work out like how many how many thousands of people have been hurt

03:41:48.300 on canadian roads because people with that attitude are driving trucks that weigh 10 000 pounds 1.00

03:41:56.220 and honestly if if we as a people are not ready to really admit that women aren't good at driving

03:42:05.060 we might not be ready to admit that indians are bad at driving because something had shifted where

03:42:09.960 with within the liberal the mainstream liberal mind many people are liberal even most conservatives

03:42:16.400 are basically liberal they they loved other cultures or they believed they loved other

03:42:22.660 cultures and then they encountered other cultures in a multicultural experiment and now i don't even

03:42:28.280 think they love these cultures but they do hate what we are so i saw a shift over the past five

03:42:35.980 to ten years where they don't love other cultures as much as they hate what they deem to be nazis

03:42:41.640 what they deem to be the wrong type of white male specifically that so that

03:42:45.980 really drives most of whatever this thing is they're doing right now

03:42:50.260 so i think you guys might be muted too

03:43:01.600 uh yeah you're right and um they they have been taught that and and you can see this right like

03:43:13.160 i've brought this up at the show in the past but any any kind of argument that is in the slightest

03:43:21.200 way illiberal well that's just like hitler like within three steps right you just see well that's

03:43:30.140 hitler hitler has replaced satan in in the liberal religion the late great bishop williamson who died

03:43:37.000 recently you know talked about this extensively and that's that that's why he was really thrown

03:43:42.200 out of the society that's what caused him to be ostracized by the rest of the church

03:43:47.800 is his accurate diagnosis of the modern religion of of the holocaust and and more racism like uh

03:43:56.760 and and nazis and confederates are the same and like anyone wearing gray and being organized

03:44:00.760 is inherently evil in the in the height of height of evilness and slavery and nazis and we're

03:44:04.760 basically the same thing and and um and we've adopted that too and like we're talking about

03:44:09.640 with the aftermath of how people are talking about the unite,

03:44:13.620 the right thing,

03:44:14.140 which is like anyone who's organizing anything,

03:44:16.320 we will look like that.

03:44:18.280 So we can never organize anyone who tells you to organize,

03:44:22.200 be suspicious of them,

03:44:23.560 get rid of them.

03:44:24.520 So we adopted a lot of this frame as well,

03:44:26.840 unfortunately.

03:44:29.820 Also,

03:44:30.420 interestingly enough,

03:44:31.400 and maybe I promise I really wanted to talk more about the Catholicism as

03:44:36.920 well.

03:44:37.120 we actually didn't get to the main thing we were going to talk about but i'm having such a good

03:44:41.180 time talking about this i am noticing as many others have uh some what you might call it hitler

03:44:47.360 fatigue and uh one thing i know is just recently it was um we started talking oh it was about the

03:44:56.700 news that i'm not happy with which is that they're going to trump is talking about deporting all the

03:45:01.660 palestinians are resettling them somewhere of course we're not thrilled with that but people

03:45:07.000 are talking about oh you know who also tried to uh deport and resettle hitler to the jews i said

03:45:13.520 okay well hold on so we're having a mainstream conversation about how hitler really wanted to

03:45:20.100 resettle the jews before right let's let's go with that yeah madagascar would be way nicer i

03:45:28.500 mean lemurs and jews what else could be wrong because you're not allowed to say that at all

03:45:32.260 five ten years ago but now like everyone's saying that okay well and like i think we were talking

03:45:37.280 about this before the call but like certainly you know this uh this jordan peterson art conference

03:45:41.960 is just stuff i was saying 10 years ago or maybe 15 you know like this is not new stuff the the

03:45:49.480 the mainstream is stealing our talking points they're taking notes you know the cesis people

03:45:54.120 who are listening into this program the fbi people who are listening in this program um

03:45:58.460 you can't really refute our arguments

03:46:00.660 you're just you're just like oh

03:46:02.340 but Hitler like well okay yeah whatever

03:46:04.380 I'm gonna step over that I don't

03:46:06.520 care about your obsession

03:46:08.640 with Austrian painter

03:46:10.400 man like it doesn't matter

03:46:12.680 to real people 0.92

03:46:14.480 it doesn't matter to Gen Z it doesn't matter

03:46:16.340 at all and I'm 1.00

03:46:18.160 old as fuck 0.99

03:46:19.160 and 1.00

03:46:20.840 you know like I

03:46:24.280 want a

03:46:26.380 functioning society for my children and if that

03:46:28.240 means i have to i have to be like okay well franco wasn't that bad a guy and uh mussolini wasn't that

03:46:35.800 bad a guy you know like my kids need to buy a house and and get married i guess we're gonna 0.99

03:46:41.980 have to reject some liberals and feminism is bad because it means you know my daughters 1.00

03:46:45.740 oh no no feminisms my daughters won't be prostitutes my sons will actually have women 1.00

03:46:52.900 worth marrying like you're you're supposed to sell me on this like oh well you know 1.00

03:47:00.060 with feminism like houses can be too expensive for any of your children to buy 1.00

03:47:05.560 and your daughters can be whores like what and that that's the most important thing to have 1.00

03:47:11.760 what you just described which is a acute vision of what you want and having first principles about 0.98

03:47:18.520 what things matter to you you know i'll give you an example of what's happening in canada so

03:47:24.200 some people might say there's a housing crisis up here we just bought our first home

03:47:27.960 which is a miracle but housing prices in canada are preposterous but that's a big topic of

03:47:35.320 conversation we don't have real economic conversations we just have conversations

03:47:39.000 about eggs and houses okay fine now you will hear people say well we need more houses the

03:47:45.400 problem is that there's a housing shortage so we need more houses and anyone who's been been

03:47:50.660 paying attention knows where that leads it's going to be smaller houses cheaper houses on smaller

03:47:56.200 plots of land basically you're going to get townhouses with a sliver of space between them

03:48:01.100 so they count as detached even though they're not you see these new developments now if you go

03:48:05.820 looking you'll see these you see them in the uk too but these like strange subdivisions with oddly

03:48:11.760 shaped in narrow houses and a little patch of grass so when i say i want housing i'm specific 0.93

03:48:18.220 i want a big house on a big property i want a big fucking backyard and a front yard and a driveway 0.95

03:48:25.820 now i'm canadian you're not going to sell me on the 15 minute city it takes three hours to get 0.97

03:48:30.600 anywhere and everyone has a truck that's just how it's got to be because it is the second largest

03:48:35.420 country by area in the world like what what you're going to run out of room have you seen

03:48:40.800 you know like

03:48:41.760 yeah and so i'm like when i say house i want a house that i can actually have a good garden on

03:48:48.200 and i can have a dog or two and a big family and i'm i don't care how fucking unreasonable that

03:48:54.260 sounds and everyone sees oh i can't have that because that's not i don't know green that's not 0.77

03:48:59.480 renewable it doesn't fucking matter i want it i deserve it i'm sorry they can't have that in cairo 0.96

03:49:05.260 i'm sorry they can't have that in japan they're used to it i'm not fuck you that's what i want 0.97

03:49:11.580 explicit like as as a canadian you have a right to have a yard that you can set up like a half

03:49:20.620 size rink in the backyard and you know have the backyard rink and if the yard isn't big enough

03:49:28.160 that where your kids can get to be good skaters on the the meticulously maintained backyard

03:49:35.720 rink that you build every winter with the tarp and the water and the hose and

03:49:40.360 you know hot mob in it every day and and you don't need to justify same thing with americans

03:49:47.240 too it's like you really need to have these guns yeah you everyone should have 40 guns 0.99

03:49:52.400 fuck you that's why right well and canadians too this is this is uh you know i'm i've talked about 0.98

03:49:59.700 this but like if if we're going to be in nato i think every every member of nato deserves the 1.00

03:50:05.540 first and second amendment that's that's my you want me to stay you want in america to stay in

03:50:09.940 nato everyone gets the first and second amendment exactly and people will come back at you well is

03:50:17.520 that reasonable oh no you mistake me i'm no longer trying to be reasonable i'm telling you what i

03:50:23.160 want like like i um you tried to tell me that it was reasonable to be okay with 0.99

03:50:31.500 locking me in my house for three years and chopping the testicles off little boys 0.96

03:50:37.160 yes we're not doing reasonable you and i can have a conversation about reasonable 0.98

03:50:42.120 but if you think that like i'm i owe you reasonable after the last five years you're high

03:50:49.160 and i'm i'm like we're having a religious conflict i'm not pretending that we don't 0.96

03:50:54.520 shit like i am in my own way admittedly it's online but i'm fighting crusade against satanist 0.99

03:51:01.860 pedophiles who rape kids and worship devils and you can't you know when you say well uh yeah we're 1.00

03:51:12.680 gonna build this statue to this pindu demon in the middle of town and you can't object to it 1.00

03:51:17.020 like well you're worshiping a devil in a canadian city i don't like that and you know like and yeah 1.00

03:51:24.100 we think we should chop the testicles off a 12 year old boy and slice off the breasts of a 13 1.00

03:51:28.940 year old girl like okay so you so you're you're sacrificing children to moloch and worshiping 1.00

03:51:35.380 demons yeah we're not having a conversation anymore this is this is not you know the the

03:51:40.800 quebecois little sisters of the poor and you know the anglicans having a civil discussion about how

03:51:47.760 best to teach the indians christianity and how to wash themselves yeah and we're not falling for it

03:51:57.840 anymore we're not falling for the rhetorical tricks of oh i can build a saint statue because

03:52:04.080 you had a statue of your guy of jesus whoever might be and maybe that makes me feel like 1.00

03:52:10.340 no no no shut up i'm gonna slap you in the face with a white leather glove until you turn into 1.00

03:52:18.480 fucking stardust that's what's gonna happen i'm not engaging in this dialectic anymore 1.00

03:52:24.460 that all that does is get you caught up in the well that's what every libertarian fell for there's 0.99

03:52:29.960 those who divorce themselves from that over the pedophilia issue like well i guess we need to

03:52:35.480 allow child pornography we're being internally consistent no no no i don't care about that 0.99

03:52:40.400 anymore i care about what i want and i'm crazy i'm stupid and i'm crazy sure let's start with that 0.99

03:52:46.800 i don't fucking care and you know what no one else does either you i just saw for the past month 0.99

03:52:52.300 it's everyone laughing their asses off at bureaucrats getting fired and they'll say well 0.99

03:52:57.420 i'm crying my my kids can't eat good ha ha ha ha everyone's lost their minds eggs are 50 cents an 0.91

03:53:04.720 egg american dollars exactly we're all i'm we're done being reasonable we're all crazy we just want

03:53:12.120 we want what we want yeah i don't i'm not going to fall for your stuff anymore right well and i

03:53:18.600 think that i think that this is why the the more unreasonable we are the more we're going to get

03:53:25.340 because for years and years and years people you know you dealt with these crazy people and it's

03:53:30.380 like well they're they're insane why are we even you know countenating this and and well because

03:53:36.940 this isn't really that big a deal just you know maybe they'll stop whining well it turns out they 0.87

03:53:40.320 never stopped whining they started you know they started worshiping satan and and messing with kids

03:53:45.780 so when and and and if you do the philosophical groundwork you see that that was always the goal

03:53:53.780 and it's always satanism and and and here's why right that no one maybe some stone guys who smoke

03:54:05.060 too much weed you know like think going to india is going to be like this experience where you know 0.98

03:54:10.760 maybe like a bunch of idiotic beetle type guys in the 70s thought going to india was going to like 0.99

03:54:16.420 lead to enlightenment or something but you're here you're in my home you know squatting on my couch 1.00

03:54:26.900 eating food out of my fridge

03:54:29.180 and complaining that i don't have curry in my fridge well we don't do curry here bro we do roast

03:54:38.020 beef here we do meat pies which i just got into recently by the way oh big into meat pies but i

03:54:45.780 i know i'm looking at patrick right now and i'm hearing his voice in my head or the voice

03:54:50.820 of the christian world saying dimes can you reconcile everything you just said

03:54:56.820 with the catholic church i believe that you can um and i know you might have mentioned this before

03:55:01.460 but uh on that show with prudentialist do you even read we'd covered uh the book on resistance

03:55:08.020 to violence by forest by ivan ilian who's an eastern orthodox man um very very famous figure

03:55:13.940 radical figure but he was making the case and he was arguing against Tolstoy he's making the case

03:55:21.300 against pacifism by saying that you have a duty to fight against evil and you have a duty to

03:55:27.080 resist evil aggressively and by force if necessary not condoning torture not condoning anything too

03:55:33.460 extreme but you you have a duty to not be pacifist and to let evil wash over you which was what

03:55:39.760 tolstoy was saying that you cannot even resist evil because all violence in in itself is evil

03:55:46.120 and we're i have an alien i believe many others said no you can wield violence in the name of

03:55:52.860 good and so well dimes how can you reconcile these wild things you've said with christianity

03:55:59.000 with catholicism aren't you supposed to love your fellow man yes aren't you supposed to be

03:56:02.080 charitable yes however there is a political angle that the system that we're describing

03:56:07.240 as dark enlightenment had so been so kind to describe was you know you're dealing with a

03:56:14.440 satanic system you're dealing with a system that will and if left to its own devices if

03:56:20.000 granted all the power will create a nihilistic satanic cesspit and so you are fighting to take

03:56:27.600 it on another path to avert that course my path does not lead to a nihilistic satanic cesspit and

03:56:33.300 And so if I am inelegant in how I address this, if I am a bit radical in what I think needs to happen to avert that course, it is in the interest of a brighter future and a better tomorrow.

03:56:46.820 And so I don't think we have the privilege to be, you know, to to be pacifist at all with this or to be too tolerant.

03:56:56.400 yeah like in 1957 in america you could say uh you know what you kind of let it slide because

03:57:02.680 things weren't things things look good in canada in 1983 you can look around go yeah you know

03:57:09.120 basically everyone's uh everyone's canadian you know they might not go to church as much as they

03:57:13.880 often do and maybe drink too much but they're canadian and now we've seen what that indulgence

03:57:18.960 and that sort of attitude has led us to and you know like we're in an existential fight for the

03:57:25.220 for the western world for for the white race for christianity and like we're not in it we're not

03:57:32.400 privileged enough to like let things slide and um and i i think that that's the um you know we

03:57:40.340 didn't get to like we'd love to have you back it's i 100 want to come back because we didn't

03:57:45.100 get to talk about the main thing we were going to which is kind of we're getting into it just now

03:57:49.880 but i don't have to get going soon which was and we'll tease this for the next episode the

03:57:55.160 international child sex trafficking syndicates that are woven into not only private but also

03:58:03.440 public institutions including the vatican dear listener theodore mccarrick non-pedophile

03:58:09.740 was the archbishop cardinal archbishop of washington dc at the same time

03:58:14.080 as dennis hastert the former republican speaker of the house who's also a pedophile and uh from

03:58:23.100 2001 to 2006 they were both in the sound same town at the same time in vast positions of influence

03:58:30.620 and power and if you think those two didn't know each other i have a bridge to sell you

03:58:34.720 and we'll dimes will have you back to discuss this stuff and just to recontextualize it just

03:58:39.720 we said before we go like they are trying to marginalize you me listener everyone for

03:58:46.520 knowing about that if you bring that up this is the system that says you're kooky don't even look 0.91

03:58:51.980 into that don't connect these dots you're crazy for even thinking it's important so that's how

03:58:57.180 you know the problem is massive that's how you know the system itself and this is the uh this

03:59:03.320 is the angle that you take i think that the entire system is that corrupt has to permit this sorry

03:59:08.700 to interrupt absolutely and i want to thank you for for being here um can you give everyone your

03:59:13.900 links and and where to find you and this new excellent program oh yes uh bloodsatellite.ca

03:59:20.520 is where you can find a full episodes of the show and all the clips and everything

03:59:23.800 i publish articles on the vanguardist journal that's vanguardist journal that's substack.com

03:59:31.020 you can find that um i mentioned one short film that i produced in the past couple few months

03:59:37.740 with a team of guys from our space called paving over the public so look that a paving over the

03:59:43.280 public on youtube um and uh it's in what i just described before about canadian history of

03:59:49.100 migration and multiculturalism it's a lot of what we've been talking about um so yeah let's just

03:59:55.740 leave it at those three and i have to recommend all three in the strongest possible terms um

04:00:03.020 i get all my canadian news from from dimes and uh i i just want to say uh thank you very much

04:00:09.320 for being here uh please listeners check dimes out support them if you can um and uh please

04:00:16.480 keep it out eye out or an ear out for the next time when we discuss this uh satanic system in

04:00:20.620 a little bit more depth thank you very much for being here dimes thank you so much i had a great

04:00:24.820 Hey, baby, I hear the blues are calling tall salads and scrambled eggs.

04:00:31.980 And maybe I seem a bit confused.

04:00:35.060 Yeah, maybe.

04:00:35.880 But I got you, Peg.

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