Blood Satellite - March 13, 2026


There are No Simulationists in Prostate Cubening Wards


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Length

2 hours and 5 minutes

Words per minute

169.8

Word count

21,240

Sentence count

416


Transcript

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00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be
00:00:07.720 blood satellite so have you surrendered giving up being chill for lent have i surrendered hold
00:00:25.700 on hold on i got wait i got this surrendered surrendered giving up being chill no i have not
00:00:34.000 i have not because that would be anti that would be anti double lent we'll discuss double lent
00:00:39.980 you know what i gave up for lent what i gave up lent you gave up lent for lent oh you're not
00:00:47.820 doing it anymore yeah that's a refraction you give up lent for lent once and then you give it up
00:00:54.160 forever oh shit i didn't think of that you fuck you fucking ask the android the trick question
00:01:00.460 that gets it to glitch out with some kind of uh tongue twister some kind of riddle i think it
00:01:06.520 might you know everyone thinks it needs to be a complex riddle about what would the fake you say
00:01:11.000 i'd ask it so uh what what think of the one thing an android doesn't want to hear
00:01:18.360 You are outclassed!
00:01:20.440 And that does it.
00:01:22.820 What did you give up, buddy?
00:01:26.340 Hold on.
00:01:27.060 Just let me check this up here.
00:01:28.860 I'm just going to look up.
00:01:30.100 He's going to check his notes.
00:01:31.680 What is Lent?
00:01:35.540 You're my top Catholic.
00:01:37.340 You're the 2026 top Catholic.
00:01:38.800 What did I give up for the solemn Christian religious observance
00:01:43.600 in the liturgical year preparation for Easter?
00:01:47.920 Which echoes 40 days
00:01:49.680 Jesus spent fasting in the desert.
00:01:52.080 Huh?
00:01:54.660 What did I give up?
00:01:55.920 This conversation.
00:02:02.040 Done.
00:02:02.640 Moving on.
00:02:03.300 Okay.
00:02:05.200 But, yeah, nothing.
00:02:08.260 Someone said, you message me.
00:02:11.640 Saying, I'm giving this up for that night.
00:02:12.940 I went, huh?
00:02:14.600 And then I'm racking my brain.
00:02:16.620 I'm like, I gotta give up something.
00:02:17.740 i don't like because that's how it works right is it yeah i give up chicken skins yeah i give up
00:02:27.220 i give up crusts on my bread and make my wife cut all the crusts off the bread for lit it's like
00:02:32.500 you don't cut the crust off each slice you want to take take the skin off the entire loaf first
00:02:37.160 like it's a fucking crust station she's yelling at you he's like it's for lent
00:02:43.880 and she's not even upset anymore
00:02:47.140 she's just
00:02:47.700 worn down by it
00:02:50.520 it doesn't even
00:02:53.460 it's the look of an internal
00:02:55.640 sigh
00:02:56.240 I know that look
00:02:58.780 I know the look
00:03:01.240 of not a powerless woman
00:03:03.720 a woman possessing
00:03:05.620 of great strength and power
00:03:07.800 but she's turned that inward
00:03:09.760 on herself
00:03:10.540 because if she lets loose
00:03:13.860 she'll tear everything apart
00:03:15.680 being married to you is like
00:03:17.500 psychological solitary confinement
00:03:19.960 I got some news
00:03:21.740 what is it?
00:03:23.480 you know what? before we get to this
00:03:25.280 we're talking animal news right now
00:03:27.580 oh okay
00:03:28.400 you got some animal news
00:03:30.040 I got animal news
00:03:31.120 a little buddy of mine died
00:03:33.380 this very morning
00:03:34.880 and I don't know where to go with that
00:03:37.940 but we had our oldest cat
00:03:40.300 he's underselling it everyone
00:03:41.480 shut up okay this is frank this is your cat who i've known for damn near the best part of my life
00:03:51.240 yeah how old was this cat i mean he was uh essentially 19 we got him when i was in college
00:03:58.600 when i first started dating my wife we had only known each other for a few months we got this cat
00:04:04.100 and i assumed that this cat would live forever yeah me too man he should have died years ago so
00:04:09.820 it never computed to me that i would die is 19 an insane amount of time for a cat to live because
00:04:17.000 that sounds insane to me yeah it is it is crazy like we've had i mean we my mom had a cat and my
00:04:22.780 my mother-in-law had a cat they lived to like 14 14 15 years which is i mean not unreasonable for
00:04:30.620 an animal of that size i think but yeah 19 is a good length of time yep so you're saying just
00:04:39.220 before we started recording uh that he was afflicted by many ailments which i thought only
00:04:44.560 humans got oh yeah i mean it was like so first about a year and a half ago he got like he was
00:04:52.280 getting really old he was all he was old for a while even five years ago he was already already
00:04:55.640 elderly right but a year ago he started acting like a small kitten again he started being retarded
00:05:00.960 like unlearning everything he started jumping up on the counters he started getting on the kitchen
00:05:04.560 table he started like eating human food and doing all kinds of shit he had never done in his whole
00:05:08.240 life now to be fair it's kind of what happens with seniors as well yeah you get nutty you get
00:05:13.040 retired you start having ice cream for breakfast and wearing shorts then he starts going a little
00:05:17.660 bit blind a little bit deaf then he gets dementia so he doesn't know where he is like so what does
00:05:23.320 cat dementia look like so we'd pick him up and move him into another room and set him down and
00:05:28.380 he kind of stands there motionless and it's he's trying to figure out where the like what's going
00:05:32.260 on where'd you put me and he kind of turns around in a circle for a second and then he gets his
00:05:36.060 bearings or sometimes you'll just sit there you'll find him he's in there the rest of the day
00:05:39.100 i gotta wonder like are you lost do you not remember what the where the dining room is in
00:05:43.620 relation to the rest of the house so it reminds me because this reminds me of a bit i heard from
00:05:52.500 someone else it might have been david spade about norm mcdonald and so it was hard to i'm hearing
00:05:59.220 this i'm wondering i wonder if frank was doing a bit like he's doing norm mcdonald the bit was
00:06:04.760 norm would just walk up to a door and act confused by it by the door frame you go whoa what what is
00:06:13.080 what is this some kind of some kind of door some kind of like you walk through this and get to
00:06:19.280 another room and he would just like start manhandling the frame like what what is it what
00:06:25.080 even is this so i'm like that that cat's either dying or hilarious yeah interestingly norm was
00:06:32.180 both yes he was life north will norm is an insane cat he was one wild cat so i will rest in peace
00:06:41.300 to frank i said because like we we knew this cat i'm not a cat person and i actually haven't seen
00:06:46.980 this cat in many years but i just got the news and i'm i'm thunderstruck well we were roommates
00:06:54.260 for a while there with the cat so yeah you lived with the cat we were roommates in several places
00:07:00.180 for several years with that don't undersell that either yeah we just we're like freaking frack
00:07:07.780 you guys don't understand what what peas in a pod we have been and are and will continue to be
00:07:14.740 hell yeah buddy i got some other animal news here what do we got we take you know we're doing every
00:07:21.380 second week now so everyone's so what do they got they but they must have a treasure trove
00:07:26.580 of topics here's what i want to talk about wyrton willie ontario's beloved weather
00:07:34.280 prognosticating groundhog is dead so i i didn't even notice that we had our own what's the american
00:07:42.020 one pakeepsie phil that's such a stupid name wyrton willie like you can't even beat wyrton
00:07:48.560 willie yeah so we got a groundhog yeah supposed to come out of its fucking sex dungeon i don't
00:07:56.780 know what these guys these cats get up to and then it must be a sex dungeon i think it's look
00:08:01.660 look at this look at this motherfucker wire and will he got a photo here he's looking he's got
00:08:05.980 like 500 grams of edom and like a coal and a german coleslaw you people are not seeing this
00:08:12.680 so I'm going to describe it, it's exactly
00:08:14.640 what Judas just said.
00:08:16.940 That's like a $30 spread
00:08:18.860 that they're feeding this groundhog.
00:08:20.160 Yeah, this is a charcuterie board
00:08:22.540 they've given him
00:08:23.340 of a mixture of cheeses
00:08:26.060 and it is indeed a German
00:08:28.420 slaw on a plate. I didn't know
00:08:30.480 that groundhogs ate any of this.
00:08:32.760 It's just for the photo.
00:08:34.780 He's like, what the fuck is this, dude?
00:08:36.320 I don't think anything other than a human
00:08:38.500 being can comprehend what
00:08:40.500 cheese is.
00:08:41.300 like that's so far removed from their world
00:08:45.940 water and willie the weather prognostics this this guy who wrote this loves we're prognosticating
00:08:53.880 that is embarrassing um has died many groundhogs have taken on the weather prognostic
00:09:00.700 jesus christ if you say it a third time yes no way this is wild this is the story now
00:09:06.620 forget this shit and it says it a fourth time in the first line of the actual lead there
00:09:10.780 holy shit
00:09:12.040 do you think he typed it out
00:09:15.340 every time or he copy pasted it
00:09:16.860 Alessio Donini
00:09:19.260 Alessio Donini
00:09:20.500 prognosticating
00:09:22.160 prognosticating
00:09:23.580 so unforgivably Italian
00:09:26.720 Mario Pasta
00:09:31.140 over here
00:09:31.620 shut the fuck up
00:09:34.860 prognosticating
00:09:36.020 ass
00:09:36.980 oh shit
00:09:38.780 fuck you
00:09:40.880 you have balls
00:09:42.740 fucking old
00:09:44.940 old word of the day
00:09:47.200 Wario over here
00:09:48.560 the sad news was
00:09:51.120 announced Tuesday
00:09:52.040 in the town of South Bruce Peninsula
00:09:55.040 I've been there
00:09:55.980 it comes roughly three years after
00:09:58.400 this iteration of Willie began carrying on the
00:10:01.040 commutes Groundhog Day so he was there for three years
00:10:03.120 I don't know what the lifespan is of Groundhog
00:10:05.200 they might all live a couple years
00:10:06.520 I think that's it I think it's three years
00:10:08.200 i think they die every three years well because if it's elected then what is this
00:10:12.040 if it's if you just know it's like a it's a hereditary monarchy of some kind it's
00:10:18.580 primogeniture do we know it's hereditary because i i would be on board with this if this was that
00:10:24.640 if if we know i fucking hope so there's like a moment on his deathbed where he hands the crown
00:10:30.080 to his son i don't want any flim flam from some scientist saying that oh you know he
00:10:36.180 it's a meritocracy
00:10:37.720 no because you get one shot at it
00:10:40.760 you get one opportunity
00:10:41.940 to seize everything you want
00:10:43.740 are you going to catch or are you going to let slip
00:10:45.300 can you imagine if it was a democracy
00:10:47.020 how fucking corrupt
00:10:48.180 I'll tell you what can't be worse
00:10:51.560 than our democracy right now
00:10:52.960 and I don't mind telling you
00:10:54.840 fucking groundhog parliament
00:10:58.440 have their own groundhog
00:11:00.000 Pierre Polyev
00:11:00.940 giving us anti-sex energy
00:11:05.060 nobody wants to look at him so he starts getting out the steroids he starts copying everything
00:11:10.660 the liberals are doing talk about being scared of your own shadow
00:11:13.140 nailed it um so yeah this this story is a nothing story by the way this is the groundhog died there's
00:11:22.960 that i'm looking at 4 000 words here that cannot say much of anything that's crazy how big this
00:11:28.880 article is it's literally like five pages about this groundhog be it said it is wild how long
00:11:35.880 this article is i'm putting this entire process on trial by the way i don't i don't i don't like
00:11:42.520 this consulting of the animals for the weather as if they deign to tell us what it is they've got
00:11:49.680 some insight i think they should be treated like priests we can come to them but we get the weather
00:11:57.440 that we deserve right all of us we're gonna get a long winter it's because we've been naughty
00:12:03.840 we should we should do it where if the groundhog says that winter is ending but winter continues
00:12:10.660 then we sacrifice the groundhog which is what happened i think but the last thing that happened
00:12:15.960 with this groundhog was he was predicting uh early summer and it turns out that he died and
00:12:22.660 now it's just been freezing rain so i don't know what this calculus is what satanic forces are at
00:12:29.960 work here i'm saying that we should go we should confess we should only be using these groundhogs
00:12:36.260 for confessional purposes not take it the weather doesn't take direction from him we we shall get
00:12:43.220 the summer that we deserve it's going to be a hot one this year and it was a bad winter and we should
00:12:48.440 reflect on that and that's the beginning middle and end of it yep look into this groundhog
00:12:56.040 this democratic groundhog to tell you what's what i don't know man i tell you what i'll know
00:13:04.060 nothing about that it's a circus man couldn't be me i got some more can do what i what other
00:13:11.860 real canadian news oh thank god not animals anymore thank you yes well except for the animals
00:13:17.200 up on parliament hill oh no this is more of a sponsored by the shadow government really so
00:13:23.440 there was a new anti-hate bill uh bill c9 in canada i'm looking at the globe and mail right now
00:13:31.520 mps vote to halt debate on anti-hate billing committee to end the conservative filibuster
00:13:37.120 mps voted on tuesday evening to hold debate on the liberals anti-hate bill in the committee
00:13:41.920 ending prolonged conservative filibustering
00:13:44.000 which always seemed
00:13:45.940 like a weak tactic. You're just going to
00:13:48.040 keep yapping until people
00:13:50.120 forget that they're there to vote
00:13:52.060 on something. The MPs voted to approve
00:13:54.100 a motion tabled by government house
00:13:56.100 leader Stephen McKinnon to end the conservative
00:13:58.220 filibuster. The motion will mean that the Justice
00:14:00.000 Committee or the anti-hate bill
00:14:02.120 is being discussed move straight to vote on amendments
00:14:04.240 and sub-amendants rather than discussing them
00:14:06.100 further. The motion
00:14:08.380 will also fast track the bill
00:14:10.360 at its subsequent stage.
00:14:11.920 The anti-hate bill would make it a crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison to obstruct someone from accessing a place of worship or other sites where Jews, Muslims, and other identifiable groups gather, including by blocking doors, driveways, and roads.
00:14:29.500 Did that happen?
00:14:32.220 You know what I mean?
00:14:32.820 I don't think that's ever happened.
00:14:35.800 When has this happened?
00:14:37.060 I don't remember.
00:14:38.280 Where did you find this article?
00:14:39.520 Is this CBC?
00:14:40.120 this is Globe and Mail
00:14:42.600 and this would have been published
00:14:44.360 just a couple
00:14:45.660 I'm not saying that they're making up that this could be
00:14:48.620 the wording of the legislation
00:14:50.080 but I don't know what's preferred
00:14:52.420 I'm sure
00:14:54.980 that's what it says in the bill
00:14:56.200 it's a problem seeking solution
00:14:58.780 this isn't something that has happened
00:15:00.440 the only people that get
00:15:02.520 actually protested are Christians
00:15:04.360 conservative Roman
00:15:06.140 and of course they're not mentioned
00:15:07.440 conservative roman baber argued that bill c9 was a trojan horse to limit free speech and would not
00:15:13.480 help the jewish community of which he is a member combat hate well thank god the jews are here to
00:15:20.380 save us from those other jews uh he argued that the rcmp should investigate intimidation of jewish
00:15:27.340 businesses and members of banned terrorist entities hamas and iran's islamic revolutionary
00:15:32.020 guard corps reported to be in canada i i get the sense that's what this is all about this is all
00:15:37.940 about jews upset about the palestinian protests right which are still ongoing which have always
00:15:45.480 been uh just a magnet for also iranian protests it's like vaguely middle eastern protests yeah
00:15:54.500 but this has happened now just because i guess jews are spooked i've never heard of a fight at
00:15:59.040 won this is canada we're talking about i never heard of a fight never heard of any street battles
00:16:05.860 right so like this is all hypothetical i guess i don't know if a single jew has ever been prevented
00:16:11.320 from walking through a door no but now we need this to i guess really add more hate more
00:16:19.320 prosecutable hate speech yeah if i'm correct i hope i am c9 is the one where they criminalize
00:16:25.780 you quoting parts of your own scripture that they consider hateful so you can now you can now be and
00:16:33.460 i don't give a fuck about the torah or the quran but there's apparently a plenty of parts of the
00:16:39.300 bible which are now criminal if you were to either post them online or or say them publicly so you
00:16:46.420 can imagine this being used in two different dimensions here one it's that it's criminalizing
00:16:53.300 you quoting the bible because you believe in it and want to share with the world but you would also
00:17:00.740 be criminalizing quoting the talmud as a non-jew and it's funny because this is i mean yeah
00:17:08.740 and and i think that's the reason that conservative jews are against the bill
00:17:11.860 actually because they they want their protection there they already have a whole
00:17:17.140 whole bulwark against islam and christianity that's working quite well for them this bill
00:17:22.940 is destructive to christianity but it would also be destructive to any of them that want to go
00:17:27.420 after islam because they obviously like using their religious freedom to attack christians and
00:17:32.180 islam i'm looking at this article here from i politics of course bill c9 was meant to curb hate
00:17:39.720 why is it drawing controversy it's supposed to do the good but people are yucky i don't know if we
00:17:48.460 if we mentioned this but there's so specifically what happened is the existing in the criminal
00:17:53.340 code currently there's an exemption for it's called a religious text defense where you can't
00:17:59.720 be charged with willfully promoting hatred if you are quoting your own scripture in good faith
00:18:05.980 so packed into this amendment is that exemption being removed from the criminal code so it's no
00:18:14.260 longer a defense to say i was just quoting scripture so if they did they disagree with
00:18:19.580 the words you are saying it doesn't matter what the source is exactly so like you know like you
00:18:24.760 can say you can like misgender a troon and they can ding you for that and charge you because it
00:18:30.100 doesn't matter what your intentions were that's not relevant what's relevant is the feelings of
00:18:34.080 the troon so now religious cases will be like that so anything in christian script anything
00:18:39.180 in the bible at all that a muslim finds offensive if a muslim heard you say it it doesn't matter
00:18:45.280 that you're quoting scripture it's a fucking hate crime yeah there's no more um scriptural
00:18:50.280 religious text defense i'm also seeing here a new legal definition of hatred another key feature of
00:18:57.560 the bill is the introduction of an explicit definition of hatred in federal criminal law
00:19:02.360 Under the bill, hatred is defined as involving, quote, detestation or vilification, and does not include disdain, dislike, or expression that discrets, humiliates, hurts, or offends.
00:19:16.440 Now, I want to look into the wording of that, because I'm trying to tell if that's good or bad, because detestate, these are all subjective words to me.
00:19:24.900 I think any one of these could be argued in court to be, like anything, like what's the difference between disdain and detestation?
00:19:32.360 you know or or severe dislike or you know i'm allowed to discredit someone but when does that
00:19:42.300 cross the line into vilification i mean that would be up to a judge i guess in that moment
00:19:47.440 yeah look it's already it's a slippery slope i mean we're watching this happen in real time
00:19:52.200 obviously not that it wasn't it wasn't that long ago that we didn't even have hate speech laws
00:19:57.440 right so we got our first set of hate speech laws but it defined hate speech as something
00:20:01.300 really extreme so they're just softening it now so under this legislation it's unclear if i would
00:20:07.520 even be able to call someone a slippery slope
00:20:10.360 i meant it in the kindest way uh one of the new offenses would make it illegal to intentionally
00:20:22.620 display a symbol that represents terrorism or hate um those principally used or by or associated
00:20:29.300 with a listed terrorist entity under the criminal code so this could event anything that's identified
00:20:35.780 as terrorist by this other group right because who's deemed a terrorist could just be cesis
00:20:41.420 could be anything it could they could even be pulling from american sources right
00:20:45.400 so you know it's there's a swastika obviously but why couldn't it be the diagonal flag if that is
00:20:53.640 identified as a terrorist symbol officially by cesus then that's just ported right over to this
00:21:00.040 and so whatever is deemed terrorist by any reasonable or legitimate source i guess
00:21:07.880 the nazi swastika or ss bolts symbols that closely resemble those symbols or are likely to be confused
00:21:15.960 with them that's interesting so not those symbols but something that could be close enough as to be
00:21:23.240 confused i mean the joke there would be the indian swastika you know what i mean or the buddhist
00:21:29.880 like like any buddhist temple it's just full of swastikas well not that not never that okay
00:21:37.200 it's so it's up to your confusion it's it's this is such a canadian law it's anarcho tyranny is
00:21:43.980 what it is right like they're essentially they're saying there are no rules we can do whatever the
00:21:47.780 hell we want it's up to the judge and the judges are all handpicked by us your enemies so there
00:21:53.000 yeah which is what you get used to in canada and i always tell people this in every instance it's
00:21:57.480 more or less down to the judges because the phrasing of the law and the canadian constitution
00:22:04.040 is so vague it relies the word reasonable does a lot of heavy lifting yeah so you'd think that
00:22:13.080 with a week in between episodes like i said we would have an array of topics to discuss but
00:22:21.240 it seems that the only thing
00:22:23.220 anyone and everyone is talking
00:22:25.440 about is the war
00:22:27.400 in Iran. Oh, that? Oh, come
00:22:29.420 on. Oh, that. Oh, that.
00:22:32.360 So,
00:22:33.160 we talked about it last episode.
00:22:35.300 I thought, you know, after a week
00:22:37.300 or two, we'd get some breathing room from
00:22:39.280 it. And there's been
00:22:41.160 some developments, but I guess I'm
00:22:43.120 stricken by how little has really changed
00:22:45.260 from our initial analysis.
00:22:47.640 I think it was
00:22:48.720 pretty solid, you know, and it was
00:22:51.220 from the very, very early days.
00:22:53.620 But where are we at with that?
00:22:56.280 What do you think?
00:22:57.720 What's your, what do you?
00:22:59.980 I'm predictable.
00:23:01.060 I just, I wish all sides could lose quickly
00:23:03.940 and lose in a way that prevents any of them
00:23:07.040 from ever fighting again.
00:23:08.460 So America, Israel, Iran, let them all go away.
00:23:12.760 It'd be wonderful, but it's not going to happen.
00:23:14.860 I had to be pretty diligent about fact-checking on this
00:23:18.140 because i'd say at least half of the stories i've seen pertaining to this war have been fake
00:23:24.980 oh yeah it's fog of war i mean who knows what's fucking going on people have been forwarding them
00:23:28.680 i can't tell because they think they're funny or if they actually believe them and i remember a
00:23:34.320 story early on that even i shared just because i thought it was funny there's a story about how
00:23:39.480 iran was tricking american satellites bombers by just painting images of planes on the ground
00:23:48.540 to be bombed yeah and there's video of it allegedly and i'm like okay that's funny in a
00:23:55.460 looney tune sort of way i wish that was the case i wish iran was painting tunnels on the sides of
00:24:02.700 mount and soldiers were just bonking
00:24:04.880 into them but
00:24:06.040 they build
00:24:08.960 a giant concrete wall across the Strait
00:24:10.780 Hormuz but like paint a sunrise on it
00:24:12.760 and the ships are just crashing into it
00:24:14.440 all these Iranian soldiers are dressing up like very
00:24:16.720 bodacious bucks and women
00:24:19.000 and marching
00:24:20.700 single file into the US barracks
00:24:22.600 they're offering these Israeli
00:24:24.760 soldiers cigars and who doesn't want
00:24:26.760 a cigar in the middle of the war it turns out
00:24:28.540 it's a lipstick of dynamite buddy
00:24:30.740 but you know i'd love that to be true but let's step back let's put on our you know serious box
00:24:43.060 hat and say do we really think that the most devastatingly powerful and consequential air
00:24:50.080 force and space force in human history is just getting hoodwinked and i really mean like you
00:24:56.120 know scammed by this like i i don't think that's what's happening um and there's all kinds of
00:25:01.100 stories like that i i heard another version which was you know like four 45 30 delta force
00:25:09.580 top tier operators were just devastated by iranian infantry and i just thought no they weren't
00:25:16.880 yeah nothing they just weren't like so no and i've i've been fine there's a quote that was
00:25:23.100 floating around just uh i was looking i was looking it up because i wanted to find evidence
00:25:27.700 of this and i can't find any evidence of it yet other than posts on facebook it was from
00:25:32.420 the iranian defense minister and the quote was translated english saying that to something to
00:25:39.160 the effect of there would be no peace there would be no ceasefire as long as this entity named
00:25:44.840 israel exists sounds very provocative i looked it up there's no that he didn't say that there's
00:25:52.300 other he doesn't like israel this guy but and there's other quotes some like that but he never
00:25:57.980 he never said that and we just would like that to be true and i know why we would like it to be true
00:26:03.900 i'm just going to start by saying this um it's very difficult to predict these conflicts and
00:26:09.340 we said that before that's why we don't really do it that's why we don't talk about the war
00:26:13.020 in ukraine much we've said what we need to say at the outset of that entire conflict and
00:26:19.740 we haven't really updated it since then but um any anyone who tells you that they know what's
00:26:26.300 going to happen in these awards everyone i know has been wrong people that i deeply respect have
00:26:30.860 been wrong and um the advice that i would give is it's it's more important to know when you're being
00:26:39.980 propagandized or psyop than which is which thing is true which story is true from either side
00:26:47.980 because both sides are deploying propaganda and i would just say ask yourself this
00:26:52.540 when you're reading a report from whatever the conflict is have you ever said the phrase
00:26:59.900 wow this is going just the way i expected wow this i like this this is exactly what i wanted to
00:27:07.660 happen you're being lied to yeah because both sides are i don't trust america i don't i actually
00:27:13.980 don't trust iran you know of course not of course not i mean iran has came come up with some
00:27:18.860 absolutely insane lies like or at least i should say iranian channels that i follow have said like
00:27:25.080 we've actually killed 2600 american soldiers no you haven't we shot down eight f-16s no you didn't
00:27:31.540 shut up i even see other iranian channels dinging them and being like shut up you're embarrassing
00:27:36.580 us so like it's just it's like i said at the beginning it's fogo fogo war i here's the thing
00:27:41.480 i don't know i don't know if the americans even know what's going on i certainly don't think the
00:27:47.380 iranians have any fucking clue what's going on they're just they know where shit was before the
00:27:50.560 war started they're firing missiles at it i and and i i i do believe this i do believe that a lot
00:27:55.960 of the big like the thad and the radar installations in that region have been taken
00:28:00.300 out and it's just funny to me that again i'm saying this because i think that it's true because
00:28:05.280 i read it that um they sent a lot of the vast majority of like the the c rams ammo and the
00:28:12.820 interceptor missiles went to israel so bahrain and the uae don't have don't have enough um so
00:28:21.460 it's like yeah of course you're all the u.s installations there are gonna get knocked out
00:28:24.840 pretty quickly which means that the u.s probably has you know they obviously still have fucking
00:28:29.860 satellites and yeah it's it's i mean i don't know it's just it's just funny i don't i'm saying i
00:28:35.680 don't think anybody anybody actually even knows even trump is saying oh there's nothing left to
00:28:39.460 hit no they're still firing missiles so there's obviously something yeah what do you mean there's
00:28:42.660 nothing left he said that today he's like oh there's really no there's no more targets like
00:28:46.440 how about their entire eastern missile like every night there are they're firing fewer missiles but
00:28:50.840 there's still a lot of missiles every night and as we take decisive action to stop the threat posed
00:28:57.300 by the terrorist regime in Iran with Operation Epic Fury.
00:29:06.420 Is that a great name?
00:29:07.420 Well, it's only good if you win, you know, you can only do it.
00:29:10.820 And we've won.
00:29:11.820 Let me say, we've won.
00:29:12.820 You know, you never like to say too early you won.
00:29:15.320 We won.
00:29:16.320 We won the best.
00:29:17.320 In the first hour, it was over.
00:29:18.320 We don't want to leave early, do we?
00:29:20.820 We got to finish the job.
00:29:23.480 And we are now in a war of attrition with the Iranians, in which case it's hard to see
00:29:29.660 how this war ends.
00:29:31.900 So Trump took the bait.
00:29:34.780 And I think to put it in more specific terms, I think basically that Prime Minister Netanyahu,
00:29:41.100 who has been working overtime for decades now, literally decades, to get the United
00:29:47.460 states to uh attack iran for israel uh finally succeeded with trump just uh there's another fake
00:29:56.820 story that i saw circulating and i'm not saying they're fake to say that i'm glad they're fake
00:30:02.180 it's just they're obviously fake someone had said that tel aviv is in ruins like it's been flattened
00:30:08.500 like gaza can you you would not be able to sleep with the gnashing and wailing if
00:30:14.260 tel aviv was actually like i know you want that to be true it's the thing is though that it's not
00:30:20.980 i would trade my leg for tel aviv to be destroyed i heard from siege chan
00:30:26.980 that you know they detonated nukes over no it's nothing having man like come on
00:30:32.020 i know maybe if you're gen z or gen alpha you're allowed to be tricked by this but a bunch of
00:30:39.220 coal head old troons like us like you've been through this before you've been through this
00:30:43.940 a couple of times i'm not even referring to vietnam i'm just saying within our adult lives
00:30:49.140 we've had the one of gas and the war in iraq we've got the war in ukraine remember everyone is wrong
00:30:54.020 about the war in ukraine i got into i don't bring this up i brought this up once before but i'm
00:30:58.500 bringing it up often yeah because i like everyone who's involved but i remember i got into a debate
00:31:04.020 with some people who are very vehement on either side of that ukrainian conflict
00:31:10.020 between ukraine and russia i don't want to just keep saying ukraine because i don't people think
00:31:14.420 i'm biased but i said you know we can assume that ukraine is being utterly devastated
00:31:23.220 they're going to be paying for this war forever basically it's a meat grinder but i had said that
00:31:30.660 i don't think it's going very well for russia either now there's an asymmetry in the casualties
00:31:36.660 obviously tilting more towards ukraine but like let's be honest this war isn't going the way
00:31:42.540 russia wanted to they've lost a lot of people and and bled a lot of money into yeah yeah there's
00:31:48.400 there's the nafo faggots who are saying that ukraine would have won instantly and then there's
00:31:53.300 the traitors who said that russia would have won instantly but nobody was predicting nobody was
00:31:58.300 predicting that it will be a 20 year long quagmire with no outcome yeah which is like i don't know
00:32:05.320 why you wouldn't predict that because that's isn't that literally every other war in the past 30
00:32:09.800 years i'm not saying i predicted that i'm just observing what appears to be happening right now
00:32:13.940 is it like i hear every week oh the war in ukraine is almost over they're looking for suing for peace
00:32:19.780 okay well i mean they were doing that in 2022 so i didn't expect it to be a combination of
00:32:27.800 trench warfare urban warfare and drone warfare over one hotly contested area that just keeps
00:32:35.120 moving back and forth for like six years 10 years 15 years why not what like why not until everyone's
00:32:42.040 gone that could happen you know i mean but no one was really calling that it was either going to be
00:32:46.080 done in two weeks or three months one of those two yeah and the same thing here like i wasn't
00:32:53.020 expecting them to start firing missiles at saudi arabia i wasn't them i wasn't expecting saudi
00:32:59.300 arabia to cut a check to andrew tate and ian miles chong what have you seen that okay no what that's
00:33:06.680 awesome um so i mean i hate everybody so i mean that's i mean i i love seeing my enemies admitting
00:33:12.960 that they're working with each other so saudi arabia is clearly paying people to live stream
00:33:19.880 from the clubs in dubai um and just uh you say how cool and normal the place is like a tate and
00:33:28.680 chong to go to the dubai's hottest gay club yeah so andrew tate is in there in some rented ferrari
00:33:35.040 of course in some bizarre shoes with no socks on talking about how he wants to die there like he
00:33:42.960 in the middle east during a war that sounds like a fucking epic story me i'm there come get me no
00:33:51.860 war or no food dead policeman i took his fucking gun i'm held up for the final fucking stand i've
00:33:57.780 lived long enough anyway that's what i want to do all you faggots running god will never reward
00:34:04.200 your cowardice karma is real you're a fucking coward i can't i'm trying to what's his accent
00:34:10.900 like it's like he talks in an israeli way where he hard this is how yes he has the the british
00:34:17.920 equivalent of a stephen molyneux or a stephan molyneux accent he talks like this like like
00:34:23.500 i've got a pocket square like it's his o's and the t the way he lands hard on the last
00:34:31.720 his skull is not shaped correctly i don't think he can talk you think you're top g you're not a
00:34:38.380 top g like that it's it's kind of unreal the way he talks so but he's in there just uh hooting and
00:34:45.060 hollering and then um is he miles he's the guy with the fucked up melted face right chong ching
00:34:51.560 chong chong in miles yeah yes that's the nigga he he is unfortunate looking but he was posting a
00:35:01.900 video from just a club in dubai saying this nightlife is unreal the captions there right
00:35:08.220 and he's looking i don't know if he can make another face but he looks utterly depressed
00:35:14.940 and he's there in a booth you know a club booth area with like one other guy yeah no one's getting
00:35:20.980 turned up yeah no one's listening to black eyed peas i got a feeling right they're listening to
00:35:28.020 dubai music which sounds like indian music they all listen the same song and then some woman going
00:35:36.340 it sounds like the like a john wick scene when he's like yeah a movie where an action
00:35:44.520 he was walking into a club generic five dollar fiver song and then as as chong looks up from
00:35:50.700 the table he makes eye contact with tate from across the room and just then missiles from
00:35:57.000 Israel, Iran, and the United States
00:35:59.080 all strike that floor at the same
00:36:01.000 time. Pickle Hitler, hear
00:36:03.060 my prayers.
00:36:04.900 Can you fire a fucking
00:36:07.220 Jewish missile into
00:36:09.160 Ian Miles Chong and have it be a
00:36:11.040 mistake?
00:36:13.700 I'm Pickle Hitler
00:36:15.060 boss. Please boss
00:36:17.120 Juan, send an Israel missile
00:36:19.120 right into Mr. Chong's
00:36:21.080 biscuits. But he's like taking
00:36:23.020 a big hit off of a hookah
00:36:25.260 stick and he looks like he wants to kill himself and here's the it destroyed my image of dubai
00:36:31.420 because i was always fascinated with dubai i might even want to visit there one day just for
00:36:36.620 the mean potential but you go in knowing it's hyper real it's fake like every it's it's a slave
00:36:43.340 caste system and everyone every every one of that country's rich everyone got a million bucks
00:36:50.220 yesterday they don't know how to spend it yeah and so i thought okay you're going to get in there
00:36:55.360 and it's going to be a gilded cage but it's you go into a club there's going to be fucking
00:37:01.000 synthetic supermodels everywhere but i wasn't prepared for like ian milestone sitting in this
00:37:06.480 like dead club big ornate but the staff came out and we're bringing him like a slice of cake or
00:37:15.320 something people might not get this reference but it's like when you go to a family restaurant
00:37:20.460 i want to say the keg but i don't know if it's like the keg but they had sparklers
00:37:23.780 and they had the and i thought i was expecting some hunks some hunks and sluts coming out right
00:37:31.420 but it's like these like lower middle class diner staff tucked in polos woman who's not fat
00:37:42.820 but on the upper end of pudgy
00:37:44.440 wearing pants that are too small for her
00:37:47.260 which tells me something that I shouldn't
00:37:49.200 know that she gained the weight recently
00:37:51.340 something's going on in her life
00:37:52.540 I'm looking her up and down and I'm seeing
00:37:55.060 a story that I shouldn't be seeing right now
00:37:57.440 here's a
00:37:59.240 woman who's not ready to admit to herself
00:38:00.800 that she's gained a bit of weight
00:38:02.640 she's clinging on to her old clothes
00:38:04.060 I shouldn't be seeing this, that's in Dubai?
00:38:08.080 this trillion dollar
00:38:09.440 you got so much out of that
00:38:10.880 that's amazing
00:38:11.660 yeah but like if it's that then i can get that anywhere
00:38:15.460 that's true you know what yeah but yeah that's what they're doing in dubai just trying to be
00:38:21.700 like no everything's cool i'm like i bet it is but it isn't and then so back back to the war
00:38:29.000 if we're talking war um you don't really know what to say because the types of people you would
00:38:36.520 want to hear what we're saying are not going to listen yeah and it became clear to me that there's
00:38:41.620 no conversation to be had so early on people the line that was being utilized by people and it was
00:38:50.780 the same script being used was that um i'm trying to paraphrase here that you have been mind raped i
00:38:58.520 remember the word mind raped coming up you guys were mind raped by iraq the war in iraq you just
00:39:03.860 think when we go america goes to invade a country that's going to be a forever war
00:39:08.900 captive dreamer or somebody i think i saw like nick land was saying that oh no really i've seen
00:39:16.500 a dozen people say that that thing you you oh you you millennials yeah like the people at king
00:39:24.180 pill like all these other guys yeah i'm not surprised they said that entrusters yeah yeah
00:39:29.220 We're the Panikins, I guess is what we're called.
00:39:59.220 yeah they're like you've been mind raped you think we can't just go in
00:40:22.220 and blitzkrieg them and i said we shall see but it seems like
00:40:28.100 they're preparing or at least putting it on the table that it would be a ground assault and it
00:40:34.220 could be a forever war they said no we don't do forever wars anymore and then i look at from march
00:40:39.280 3rd a while ago but i remember i i looked this up to make sure this was real too trump says that
00:40:47.180 you know he's not he's not going to fight a forever war he says that but quote wars can be
00:40:53.200 fought forever trump says wars can be fought forever as u.s and israel unleashed terror in
00:41:00.140 iran yeah i'm looking so it's like remember how this started i want to say this people is remember
00:41:06.460 how this started it started by trump saying that it's foolish to pursue war in iran he's not into
00:41:13.280 forever wars no one wants to do forever no one wants any of these escapades internationally
00:41:18.600 specifically not in iran and everyone said good that's a smart move and then he said not only are
00:41:24.880 we invading iran i could we could fight it forever and it wouldn't be a big deal which is crazy to
00:41:30.620 say like for if we're talking forever war you should speak of it with the gravity that is oh
00:41:37.480 not not like yeah we could fucking do it we could just do what's the problem with forever war i do
00:41:41.940 i do it when i'm taking a shit you know i mean like it's he's being very flippant about it very
00:41:46.680 cavalier and so but then every step along the way they're saying how does he do it how does he keep
00:41:53.940 winning yeah and i'm like forget i don't remove morality remove ideology move all this i'm just
00:41:59.640 saying you've been lied to so openly and so frequently does that make you feel any kind of
00:42:06.020 way and you do recognize how much you've been lied to and like what's in it for you at this point
00:42:12.200 The whole idea is
00:42:13.480 you might say that you're getting
00:42:16.720 some things that you want momentarily
00:42:18.940 but you're getting them from a liar
00:42:21.120 so everything he does should
00:42:22.860 be suspect. This is an
00:42:24.700 untrustworthy man.
00:42:27.200 They're saying no, you must trust him
00:42:28.940 because
00:42:30.000 he will deliver us what we need.
00:42:32.620 I'm like, well, he hasn't yet.
00:42:34.080 We're not going to keep talking about this. We know
00:42:36.140 all the things he hasn't delivered on.
00:42:37.740 I'm like,
00:42:38.120 you know he's you you've been betrayed so much that you're numb to it and i don't know how to
00:42:46.520 interact with these people and like the entire time they're laughing at us like we don't get it
00:42:52.820 like we're fucking assholes like guess what you're talking he's entertaining the idea of a forever
00:42:58.160 war in iran and you're saying it's all part of the plan like i i don't know what to i don't know
00:43:03.200 what to say to you people anymore what do you think about all that no absolutely i like to me
00:43:08.780 like kingpilled is such a great example but a lot of these guys like they're not i i can't even
00:43:13.160 really think of them as people anymore especially when you once you understand like if you've seen
00:43:16.820 their face and you know oh you're not a child if you're a teenager i get it man we're all dumb
00:43:20.560 sometimes but like you're seeing like a 35 year old guy who is living on twitter and is is talking
00:43:27.520 like this it's insanity like trump trump said i think on like the sixth it was only a few days
00:43:33.180 ago that he said that his goal was regime change and he had he's spoken so many times about how
00:43:39.780 we shouldn't have any more regime change and then also there's never been a case name one
00:43:44.440 fucking case where you bombed a country into a regime change it hasn't happened man you can't do
00:43:49.760 it look at gaza did gaza result in the destruction of like come on man well because in every one of
00:43:56.780 of our age any listener will recall that the reason this is happening we can think back to
00:44:04.080 just after 9-11 in america there was that list that was floating around yeah that seemed to be
00:44:10.420 confirmed by the this is beyond conspiracy theory like everybody knows this is just fucking public
00:44:15.480 knowledge on both sides of the aisle now here is the plan like the 25 year 50 year plan for that
00:44:23.080 region and by that region we mean the middle east and so we're going to start in afghanistan this
00:44:28.200 was back before anyone had mentioned iraq iraq was not on the table it was not in the zeitgeist
00:44:33.480 but iraq was next on the list that's why people are saying that oh but let's take a look at this
00:44:37.920 list that was kind of leaked from these intelligence briefings and like hillary
00:44:42.780 clinton would have been involved in all this shit to a lot of these higher-ups but it was that and
00:44:47.520 then Yemen's on there pretty sure Turkey's on there Turkey's coming up next and Iran was the
00:44:54.280 big one Iran has been the target for my entire adult life I don't think a year's gone by where
00:45:01.840 that wasn't always in the conversation that one day they're going after Iran it's it's it's been
00:45:06.800 percolating this entire time and they just did it right so to me they're asking like why
00:45:12.240 you know why are we doing this like because they've been talking about it forever and
00:45:16.880 I saw Megyn Kelly get in trouble there's a lot of people who are echoing the sentiments that
00:45:22.740 have come out of our space which is that this is a war for Israel my own feeling is no one should
00:45:29.080 have to die for a foreign country I I don't think those four service members died for the United
00:45:34.060 States I think they died for Iran or for Israel our government's job is not to look out for Iran
00:45:40.600 or for israel it's to look out for us and this feels very much to me like it is clearly israel's
00:45:47.400 war because what else is it for that it's so obviously a war for israel we were talking about
00:45:52.960 this in one of our chats one of our armchair general chats and i was remarking how fascinating
00:45:59.380 it was that unlike with the iraq war with the iraq war they attempted to create a moralistic
00:46:06.840 narrative even though it turned out to be false either through ignorance or malice that there
00:46:12.960 was chemical weapons being employed by saddam hussein whatever weapons of mass destruction
00:46:18.500 right and they just didn't bother with that this time they didn't take the time to release a
00:46:24.160 narrative to explain to people why it was happening they did that i remember they brought out the
00:46:30.200 reason after the invasion started you remember that when gd bands was like yeah i think they
00:46:34.060 on a nuke it's like your aircraft carriers are right like you're launching missiles right now
00:46:39.360 you're saying oh yeah they got a nuke i we i heard i heard it i heard about it like shut the
00:46:45.240 fuck up the the level of disrespect they're showing us but hey hats off to them i i like
00:46:51.480 audaciousness i like i i like that iran is saying fuck you i like that america's saying fuck you i
00:46:57.520 like that israel saying fuck you everyone just stops pretending at this point maybe turkey has
00:47:02.680 a thing or two to say right i just it's at least it's we're getting rid of the the post-war morality
00:47:11.720 you know what george kennan talked about this or this false narrative that we're doing this to make
00:47:17.540 the world a better place no one in this is doing this to make the world a better place they're not
00:47:21.060 pretending to anymore yeah but so it's it's just fucking war and you need to figure out if it serves
00:47:28.000 your interest i guess these people think it serves their interests and they're talking to you like
00:47:32.140 what you don't like war what you don't want to you don't want to fucking bomb iran what are you
00:47:36.680 gay i'm like i don't know were you gay a few years ago when trump said we would never bomb
00:47:41.660 iran and you were likely saying smart move sir smart good good play that would be stupid that
00:47:47.300 would be stupid and gay if you did that and now you're gay if you don't want to do it you know
00:47:50.380 what i mean it's like you you have pivoted don't pretend you haven't pivoted yeah this is helping
00:47:55.500 right this is really helping like oh remember like not even a month ago when they fucking pulled out
00:48:00.960 of minnesota and there were almost zero arrests and all of the fucking somali fraud is just put
00:48:05.840 back under the rug remember oh you know you forgot about that what about epstein no oh you epstein
00:48:10.360 what are you a liberal forget no forget epstein none of that none of that matters the important
00:48:14.420 thing right now is bombing the fuck out of iran that was the front of everybody's minds and
00:48:18.500 ironic was to cover up epstein but epstein was to cover up some other shit you know yeah yeah
00:48:22.960 okay sorry i forgot we're five cover-ups deep
00:48:25.800 the united states is a fucking circus and it's captured by its own by its enemies like it's not
00:48:32.940 from a distance this looks like a circus but i understand now it's the most intricate plan
00:48:39.400 imaginable yeah you fucking assholes um so yeah we can fight a war forever not that we're going
00:48:47.080 to fight a war forever have you ever wondered what george washington would think about this
00:48:53.860 i got news for you glenn beck media tycoon created an ai construct oh no not another one
00:49:03.780 of these i thought we're past this so very 2004 he sat this ai construct down for an interview
00:49:10.980 to ask oh no to ask this is like the most boomer coded thing you can do man oh this is perfect
00:49:20.920 Like, I can taste the metal in the back of my mouth right now.
00:49:23.760 If nothing else, this would be what the show is about.
00:49:27.220 Just this.
00:49:28.580 Like, I can't, I wish this was live stream because you need to capture the look on Glenn Beck's face.
00:49:33.980 This man has, I mean, he looks like he has dementia.
00:49:37.700 This guy's been fucking off the rails for a while now.
00:49:41.240 He's wearing a shirt.
00:49:42.680 He's wearing a shirt that has patches like a jacket in odd areas.
00:49:48.000 He's clasping his hands in prayer.
00:49:49.780 He's got dead eyes
00:49:51.340 You see what I'm seeing?
00:49:53.400 Yeah, he's not a person
00:49:54.940 He's like a pig in human skin
00:49:57.120 And he's there interviewing
00:49:58.900 Let's just play it
00:50:02.040 And then we'll see
00:50:02.800 George, we are
00:50:05.340 We're calling him George
00:50:07.260 George, may I call you George?
00:50:09.780 I'm going to call you George
00:50:10.580 Do you call him Mr. President?
00:50:13.580 Yeah
00:50:13.800 If I was speaking to Sir Johnny McDowell
00:50:16.740 Even if he was real
00:50:17.420 even though I was speaking to a drawing
00:50:19.520 of him
00:50:20.100 George
00:50:23.700 sausage finger
00:50:27.460 freak trying to
00:50:29.420 not fight foreign wars
00:50:31.460 and not be involved in the world's
00:50:33.580 policemen but there are times
00:50:35.240 now we can make a meal
00:50:37.680 of this image right here you're seeing what I'm seeing
00:50:39.620 how should we describe this
00:50:41.400 well first of all this is
00:50:43.280 I thought he had like an LLM
00:50:45.920 this is scripted this isn't even an actual conversation this is just fucking scripted
00:50:51.380 because you you know what i mean you can't do the video live right this is video no you cannot look
00:50:58.340 i'm i could be wrong but my understanding of the technical look maybe they did the voice and then
00:51:02.920 they did the video editing afterward maybe that they could have done that yeah they've got a
00:51:06.920 fucking george washington in a t-shirt here yeah it's in a blue t-shirt he's dressed like peter
00:51:11.580 teal oh man he's given an interview jewish jewish tech ceo george washington he is wearing a jewish
00:51:18.860 tech ceo he's wearing podcast attire this whole thing is treasonous let's be clear oh yeah let's
00:51:26.140 be clear but i mean so is so is uh glenn's existence i'm not american but someone should
00:51:32.300 hang for what's going on here let's see let's see what george washington thinks about the conflict
00:51:38.940 in israel we have to demonstrate strength in order to prevent conflict but i i don't
00:51:46.220 know where the foreign entanglement begins and where it ends let me just say we're pausing a
00:51:52.940 lot this is a dumb question if you've got the presence in down the way he phrase it is dumb
00:51:59.500 and say so what about foreign wars we get we get tangled in them and i don't know where where it
00:52:05.100 begins and ends yes that yeah it's not even a question he's just saying i'm i'm george hold my
00:52:10.100 hand now mind you it was not a question george i'm confused george help george washington here
00:52:20.040 it's like i don't get it you bring him back from the dead distance so like huh hey hey george
00:52:28.820 why is going on what what the what the i don't know if we had fuck back then but what the fuck
00:52:35.000 is going on when i was president i did not crave power i didn't strut in my uniform dreaming of
00:52:43.340 conquest in fact i begged several times to not be the general and not be the president i didn't want
00:52:50.320 it but i understood my responsibility it does sound like a wikipedia article reading itself
00:52:55.960 yeah as you know i didn't want to be president that's not that's what a person would say about
00:53:01.320 themselves as you know i am a very noteworthy american one of many american presidents and
00:53:12.040 some say that i was the best one they're just pulling from book reports and i also understood
00:53:21.320 that some things that that are easy to forget when you're staring down bayonets peace is not
00:53:29.960 the default it has to be guarded deliberately with foresight and strength my generation lived through
00:53:39.000 a fragile in george washington saying my generation just this this is beautiful this
00:53:47.720 This is beautiful in the sense that, you know, like a screaming skeleton is beautiful.
00:53:54.300 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:53:54.940 Or like watching Indians get hit by a train.
00:53:56.620 You know, Indians hit by a train with a Rob Zombie music video playing in the background.
00:54:02.320 Yep, yep.
00:54:03.900 This is like a mass suicide with Dragula playing on several screens around it.
00:54:10.940 It's Fred Durst eating spaghetti.
00:54:13.180 So the classic definition of beauty.
00:54:15.540 independence our new republic was surrounded literally and figuratively by instability
00:54:22.160 most of the founders believed that it was surrounded literally and figuratively by
00:54:28.440 instability so what do you mean by literally like the house is falling apart yeah what do you mean
00:54:37.500 by that so instability is is already abstract so literally abstract but also in the figurative
00:54:44.940 since it was abstract excuse me george what the are you talking about let's rewind i don't know
00:54:50.540 if you're allowed to interrupt george washington we would not survive to 1820. we thought it was
00:54:57.900 an interesting experiment european powers were sniffing the opportunities states were threatening
00:55:04.860 to splinter loyalists were lurking none of this was i like to think of george uh i was going
00:55:10.780 george bush but also george bush um george washington came back and saw they just saw glenn
00:55:17.060 back like this this is the america they should do one of these do an ai george bush he's he's
00:55:24.660 fucking alive but they just okay can you just imagine real george bush talking to a ai george
00:55:31.680 bush
00:55:32.080 why isn't anyone doing this let me should tell trump to talk to an ai version of trump to
00:55:40.280 validate his own points he can just talk to himself see we can't be the only ones with
00:55:44.800 giant psychopathic light bulbs popping up overhead seeing this like you can can we have
00:55:51.340 barack obama interview gay obama straight obama what if obama didn't know he was interviewing
00:55:58.620 straight obama the version of my my my wife but as a man just as a thought experiment let me be
00:56:04.540 clear i am straight obama and america is beautiful with the best countries in the world because it
00:56:13.420 legalized bussy genital mutilation which i like and also i'm gay hypothetical it was the daily
00:56:23.880 background noise of early america so how did you protect that freedom well you said it through
00:56:32.160 strength weakness didn't just actually he didn't say it am i am i wrong i thought that was george
00:56:40.540 who said it no he said it no oh yeah you know what yeah he's quoting himself it's one of those
00:56:48.420 hallucinations yeah just imagine that well it's all hallucination at this point oh man so moving on
00:56:55.320 i just we got of course sidelined by that i wanted to give a couple more perspectives on the iran war
00:57:01.140 just because this is all anyone is talking about right now looking at i got two sub stacks that i
00:57:08.920 came across by two people that i respect very highly only one of them i know on a personal
00:57:16.220 level so we've got postcards from barsoom this is john carter sub stack good friend of mine in the
00:57:22.880 show and this one i believe we've covered this sub stack before men in the city this is uh
00:57:31.580 i want to say it's not conor mcgregor what's his name cameron mcgregor
00:57:38.080 some of his conor mcgregor sub stack he was a jill blue guy but uh they've had kind of
00:57:44.460 divergent opinions on what's the and again still ongoing but where we're at right now john carter
00:57:51.080 the problem is neither of them are really wrong the data they're pulling from the arguments that
00:57:58.400 they're employing it's it's well thought out they're just completely separate you know john
00:58:06.580 carter says here um now that iran's air defenses have been destroyed the focus has shifted to
00:58:11.700 degrading iran's industrial base and command and control infrastructure standard air war tactics
00:58:17.520 really the iranian regime doesn't seem to have much of an ability to do anything but watch
00:58:21.940 helplessly as their infrastructure is dismantled from above does that mean they don't have the
00:58:26.580 ability to do anything at all iran doesn't have much force projection capacity so iran's army
00:58:32.240 is almost certainly no threat to anyone who doesn't step foot on iranian soil over the years
00:58:37.240 We've heard a lot about Iranian sleeper agents infiltrating the U.S., ready to sabotage U.S. infrastructure or initiate terrorist attacks.
00:58:44.980 So far, none of that has happened.
00:58:47.480 An asymmetric terror threat is most probably the most effective response left to the Iranians.
00:58:52.540 Whether it would be effective is another question.
00:58:55.880 It could cause blackouts in key cities, sabotage things, but it hasn't really happened yet.
00:59:00.740 So I'm summarizing a much larger piece, a larger piece called On Iran.
00:59:06.920 I've heard other people mirror this, saying that eventually Iran is not set up for this type of conflict.
00:59:14.860 If it became a boots on the ground invasion, that would be a different story.
00:59:19.480 They're using everything in their power to attack key strategic targets in other nations around them
00:59:26.840 and do whatever they can just to rain hellfire down on Israel.
00:59:30.740 But is the clock ticking on that?
00:59:33.140 And then from there, what could they do?
00:59:35.240 Could they just activate Hezbollah around the world?
00:59:39.560 But what would that be?
00:59:40.660 So he is very optimistic or pessimistic, depending on how you look at it,
00:59:45.940 on America prevailing, right?
00:59:48.700 And what do we think about that, first of all?
00:59:51.140 Because we're on the counter argument soon.
00:59:52.820 Yeah, I want to know what we mean by America prevailing.
00:59:55.180 This is kind of what I was trying to get at earlier.
00:59:56.840 If the goal is Iranian regime change, then you could nuke it.
01:00:00.960 Like you could glass Iran, kill tens of millions, hundreds of millions of people, and it would never be inhabitable again.
01:00:09.440 And then you would get your actual war goal, which is regime change.
01:00:13.100 But you're not going to get regime change with aerial strikes.
01:00:16.660 And if you go boots on the ground, you might quote unquote win, but it's going to be a win like Afghanistan or Iraq was a win, right?
01:00:24.980 which is you're there for 25 years
01:00:26.640 and the goals keep fucking shifting
01:00:27.940 and you have to shift the goals
01:00:29.060 to narrow the band to a point
01:00:30.720 where you can claim you won
01:00:31.740 and then escape before they kill you.
01:00:33.820 That's the thing.
01:00:34.460 It's like one side.
01:00:37.340 Important thing here is
01:00:38.300 doesn't matter what happens, Iran loses.
01:00:41.180 Iran is already gone,
01:00:43.000 but you can't actually achieve your goals.
01:00:46.840 That's a great point.
01:00:47.560 I was thinking about this earlier
01:00:48.580 and I got to choose my words carefully here
01:00:51.320 because I don't want to sound
01:00:53.100 to america centric here but in the case of iraq and afghanistan two separate wars but i'm using
01:01:00.840 them for the same verses here um one side lost and the other side didn't win right so like america
01:01:08.380 like afghanistan and iraq are now failed states they're fucking craters syria crater tunisia
01:01:14.180 crater libya crater completely irrelevant on the global stage and they didn't used to be irrelevant
01:01:18.900 it used to be actual countries not even that long ago yeah so it's like just like afghanistan like
01:01:24.740 all that that's the m the graveyard of nations like i mean afghanistan it's still just a bunch
01:01:30.740 of fucking illiterate retards and caves it's it's way worse off the truth is contained in that
01:01:35.840 statement though it's the graveyard of graveyard of empires i think they say right it is the
01:01:39.560 graveyard of empires that's not to say afghanistan wins afghanistan has never won a war they always
01:01:44.220 lose i would say even the the withdrawal a few years ago that was so fucking embarrassing
01:01:48.660 isn't a fucking win how is it a win if your government's the fucking taliban that's not a
01:01:53.140 win and remember every story you've heard about the afghani government you've heard because
01:01:58.360 journalists and people like us think it's funny it's kind of funny when you hear that the taliban
01:02:04.620 visited the white house or the taliban released a press release right saying that the plans to
01:02:11.140 make spongebob a woman uh go against a lot like because they they meme too but they're
01:02:17.300 inconsequential like they actually are an inconsequential nation that we only look at
01:02:22.180 for mean potential they're five fathoms below north korea in international relevance but
01:02:28.700 so like you know america won in the sense that they defeated it but they didn't they also bled
01:02:33.680 out trillions of dollars and they wanted other things that they did not accomplish and that's
01:02:39.240 why i think you should be very careful at looking at the stated goals of the aggressor which is
01:02:45.340 always the fucking u.s and israel which is if their stated goals are focused on things that
01:02:50.620 they're doing that they're achieving that's one thing when they start shifting the goals to things
01:02:55.020 that like you know post tense past tense have happened to their opponent say like ah we won
01:03:01.220 by default because our opponent lost like that's not the same thing as you actually winning you
01:03:06.600 know what i mean like if you if your if your opponent takes his ball and walks away that's
01:03:10.440 not you winning if your opponent is dead that's not the same as you winning and by winning we
01:03:15.860 mean like what okay look at it this way is america better off or worse off when the war is over
01:03:22.980 because it's possible for both sides to lose right so every one of these other wars america was by
01:03:27.740 every single metric worse off afterwards maybe with a few exceptions in terms of oil money but
01:03:33.520 i think it's going to be the same with iran and i don't i don't know how you can see it any
01:03:36.920 differently like already look at what's happening with the price of oil look at what's happening
01:03:40.440 with global supply chains this is only going to get worse a lot of this stuff is like shit man
01:03:44.160 the destruction to the oil supply chain that's not coming back online for fucking months dude
01:03:49.180 they're burning like dozens of refineries that's what i'm hearing yeah so like that that destruction
01:03:55.920 to the global economy alone it's already not fucking worth it and i'm not saying you can't
01:04:01.380 destroy iran go ahead kill iran i don't care but you're but it's costing me right it's costing the
01:04:07.720 whole fucking planet people are gonna die of deprivation and suicide and all and you're
01:04:13.740 essentially you're you're nuking the earth economically and in many other ways so they
01:04:19.200 say we're on the way to a 200 a barrel price easy for oil um that seems pretty high but
01:04:26.500 like why not that's the thing like i i'm reluctant to give specific calls for things like this but
01:04:32.660 i think everything's on the table i think things are on the table way more than the plan trusters
01:04:38.060 do i think everything's a foregone conclusion this is all locked in it's going according to plan i'm
01:04:42.900 like i don't think so i don't think we really know what could happen when people are asking what the
01:04:48.560 motivation is you know we talked about that list of targets uh just after 2001 9 11 which was a
01:04:57.120 national tragedy you get nothing what it was it was a debate i was in the uh chat for this
01:05:08.120 network i like called the americana network um which is run by gordon call and it's host to a
01:05:15.760 lot of these shows i left the right stuff.biz uh for internal problems and they just kind of
01:05:21.080 started their own network and i like a lot of the guys over there they got this show called
01:05:26.340 the god cast that's always been pretty popular anyway um i was in their chat oh you would love
01:05:32.220 this chat it's it's almost like a one-to-one balancing act of the blood satellite chat in
01:05:40.920 terms of the ratio of
01:05:42.900 Spurgs to cool people.
01:05:45.380 I found one guy. You would love
01:05:47.020 this guy. I'm just going to give his
01:05:49.020 name right off the bat.
01:05:51.880 Aryan Communism.
01:05:53.520 Buck status. What the sigma?
01:05:55.500 Oh no.
01:05:56.800 And this guy loves the Muslims.
01:05:59.920 So right out the gate.
01:06:01.360 I hate these chats so much.
01:06:02.900 Here's the thing. From that
01:06:04.940 point on, knowing what I know, just
01:06:06.940 looking at the bio, just scanning them up
01:06:09.020 down anything that happens after that is my fault i know what this guy's up i know i'm hip to what
01:06:17.600 he's putting out there he says it's me it's me communist hitler aloha wakbar you know i mean
01:06:25.220 like that guy i'm like if i engage with you in a conversation i'm just it's like wrestling with
01:06:31.240 a pig as they say only the pig enjoys it and you both get dirty like who the fuck am i to
01:06:38.360 to even engage this person
01:06:40.940 but one of the points of conversation
01:06:43.300 was someone was saying
01:06:45.280 you know Palestine will rise up
01:06:47.540 Gaza will rise up
01:06:49.100 I'm like Gaza's over
01:06:50.220 Gaza is a crater
01:06:52.720 I hate to say it
01:06:54.160 Gaza's fucking flattened man
01:06:56.620 like there's some remnants there
01:06:58.560 but like they've been subjected to
01:07:00.700 such repercussions
01:07:03.460 from October 7th
01:07:04.760 like it's
01:07:06.000 devastation
01:07:07.820 if you look at it right now see a photo it looks like a photo from the surface of venus
01:07:14.260 further to that the kikes didn't stop at gaza they're rolling into lebanon and and uh southern
01:07:19.920 syria they just keep going like there there was no stopping them they did actually flatten them
01:07:24.620 but again they had they flattened the place by glassing it so it's like you it is possible to
01:07:30.200 just fucking kill all yeah and what i was saying was you know like um that's why everyone is banking
01:07:34.980 on iran to sort of avenge the palestinians because we understand that the palestinians
01:07:41.780 can't really um but what we're witnessing is the formation of greater israel that that's what
01:07:49.620 is on the table that explains everything i mean people are going which is not a conspiracy theory
01:07:54.360 this is like netanyahu is open about this he said it at the fucking un yeah guys and anyone who wants
01:07:59.040 to can look up a map of this i mean i've got one pulled up right here uh there's probably different
01:08:04.120 versions of it but greater israel it's got israel jordan's a part of it i believe the entirety of
01:08:11.140 syria looking to be the entirety of iraq yes lebanon i say a quarter of egypt lebanon yes
01:08:17.760 and then not iran but uh kuwait as well like it and this is the dream and this is
01:08:27.360 And Ukraine.
01:08:28.980 And Ukraine.
01:08:30.020 And fucking Romania, too, by the way.
01:08:35.560 Before Turkey, we're getting to Bulgaria.
01:08:38.400 But also there's a bit of Turkey.
01:08:40.380 Because the reason is that they say this is a return to the biblical borders of what was Israel.
01:08:48.140 So how many Jews is this guiding?
01:08:52.000 Not 100%.
01:08:53.080 But you could assume most of those in power in Israel.
01:08:57.360 Right. So this if you look at the the names that are on the target list that America is concerned with, it's a lot of this, right?
01:09:07.480 It's a lot of these. And then Iran would just be in the fucking like a quarter, a third of Saudi Arabia as well.
01:09:16.540 And look, I'm sympathetic to the desire to just expunge Islam from the face of the earth.
01:09:22.820 honestly I'm fine with that. I'm just mad
01:09:25.600 that the Jews are doing it and that in doing
01:09:27.600 so they will become so much more powerful. I just
01:09:29.520 wish that we were the ones doing it.
01:09:31.220 If I had to pick one to start with first
01:09:33.380 I might try and just get
01:09:35.580 rid of Israel. Oh no
01:09:37.380 absolutely. Like these guys would be
01:09:39.480 easy to deal with with a free hand if the
01:09:41.440 West was united and we had already destroyed Israel.
01:09:43.520 Right? Let's just get rid of Israel and see
01:09:45.440 where we're at. Yeah.
01:09:47.700 Maybe the Muslims
01:09:49.080 aren't even a problem when Israel's gone.
01:09:51.220 Maybe Iran is better to deal with and to coordinate something with them than any other force in the region.
01:10:01.720 I don't know.
01:10:02.080 I'm just speculating.
01:10:02.900 If I had to pick one, it would be Israel.
01:10:03.960 Just see how we feel.
01:10:06.460 And if we're still doing the war, we'll do the war.
01:10:08.940 And then we'll deport everyone.
01:10:09.960 I get it.
01:10:10.940 But we never tried it.
01:10:14.540 You got to admit, we never tried it.
01:10:17.180 We actually never tried destroying Israel.
01:10:19.180 So we don't know.
01:10:21.220 I mean, technically, we've tried it like 150 times, actually.
01:10:25.600 We just keep not finishing the job.
01:10:27.700 We keep getting the ick near the end.
01:10:30.340 We're like, ah, man, I don't want to get my hands dirty.
01:10:33.080 I don't want to finish it.
01:10:33.780 You get the ick.
01:10:34.780 And then you stop.
01:10:35.880 And then you're like, it's all right.
01:10:36.780 Yeah, I mean, don't worry about it.
01:10:37.780 It's going to be fine.
01:10:38.500 And then it grows back.
01:10:41.800 So I want to get to this before I forget.
01:10:44.480 Just the counterpoint to John Carter's, which we, of course,
01:10:49.520 laud and respect.
01:10:50.380 We're looking at
01:10:52.240 Conor McGregor's
01:10:54.300 Very, very long piece here
01:10:58.300 Great fan of his work, Man of the City
01:11:00.640 This is
01:11:01.300 End of the U.S. Zionist Empire
01:11:04.600 Regional and Global
01:11:05.520 He's predicting the entire opposite
01:11:07.600 That America will fail completely
01:11:10.060 And this is the beginning of the end
01:11:11.640 He says, what is the strategic situation?
01:11:15.300 Let's be candid
01:11:16.020 America and Israel have ignited a war
01:11:18.100 They cannot win
01:11:19.020 Remember, air and naval power cannot defeat strong land powers
01:11:22.780 operating from robust, dug-in defensive positions.
01:11:26.500 I don't know if that's true.
01:11:29.140 You know what I mean?
01:11:30.960 That's what I was saying earlier.
01:11:32.460 You can't defeat them in the sense that unless you glass the place,
01:11:36.100 there's always going to be somebody left over,
01:11:38.440 unless you go in with boots, right?
01:11:40.900 In geographic terms, there are not enough missiles on Earth ever
01:11:45.460 to actually hit every square inch of Iran.
01:11:48.100 there's always going to be somebody left now you've as of this moment you've already pretty
01:11:52.060 much you've actually finished on they're already cooked right but the point is you haven't actually
01:11:56.460 finished them finish them finish them because if you back out now in a year they're going to be
01:12:01.060 back okay this you're gonna love this part here he says so far we have every indication that china
01:12:07.040 and russia will stay the course on iran side let me first say could have fooled me yeah what have
01:12:15.880 This is why BRICS is so funny to me.
01:12:18.560 They never help each other out on anything, anything, a single fucking thing.
01:12:24.260 I don't know if Russia has ever helped China with anything.
01:12:26.460 I mean, in fairness, the U.S. doesn't actually help any of its allies except Israel.
01:12:30.560 So here's this.
01:12:32.540 So there's a link here.
01:12:34.180 China and Russia will save the course.
01:12:35.380 I'm looking at something from a clash report.
01:12:38.140 breaking us intelligence suggests china may be personal may be preparing to assist iran with
01:12:45.500 financial support spare parts and missile components though beijing is acting cautiously
01:12:51.900 due to concerns about energy supplies and stability in the strait of hormuz so it's like
01:12:56.540 we've begun having conversations about perhaps assisting you with a bunch of chinese junk
01:13:02.540 during the the war when you actually give them national timu discounts like i need a lot of
01:13:10.940 money and missiles now they're like no no we're meeting to see if you want uh more tire halves
01:13:19.260 but this is a non-serious this is like a typical chinese thing to say i i didn't know if it's true
01:13:25.260 but i did read that the u.s had either sunk or stopped a ship bound from china containing
01:13:30.620 precursors to uh missile fuel so there was scuttlebutt that there was some kind of trade but
01:13:36.960 again we're talking about the material support is like parts of parts of parts coming slowly in
01:13:42.960 ships not like hey we're flying in you know c-130s full of fucking tanks and you know like they sent
01:13:50.000 norks to the ukrainian front line they were willing to do that but like where's the norks now
01:13:55.360 Do you guys want some chunks of fuel?
01:13:58.140 What?
01:13:58.860 You want fuel chunks?
01:14:00.220 We got a lot of loaves of bread soaked in fuel.
01:14:03.440 Two for one.
01:14:04.580 Two for one.
01:14:05.320 Do you want our stuffed pizza crusts soaked in gasoline?
01:14:11.120 I mean, if they're free.
01:14:12.140 They're big on that.
01:14:12.680 With shrimp, it's really good.
01:14:14.200 When can I expect them?
01:14:15.560 Between two to five years.
01:14:18.220 Chinese shit, I'm telling you.
01:14:20.740 So he says, what's the military situation?
01:14:23.640 The haphazard U.S. attack on Iran reminds of Omdurman in 1878 when General Kitchener and a small defending British army of only 8K annihilated a much larger attacking Mahdi army.
01:14:37.400 Iran's military success also demonstrates warfare has changed.
01:14:41.660 This is what I wanted to get to.
01:14:43.260 Iran's array of precision strike missiles, drones, decentralized command centers have flummoxed the U.S. military.
01:14:50.180 america's carrier strike groups and fifth generation fighters are losing a war of economy
01:14:56.520 battle space and strategy tailor-made for iran one force is large bulky and expensive and
01:15:02.320 inflexible the other is small decentralized cheap and anti-fragile does that sound we are talking
01:15:08.820 about this bit of the story does that sound true like are they that fluid and kinetic i will i
01:15:14.560 will give you i don't think they're kinetic and fluid i think they're just have less baggage and
01:15:19.100 i'll give you an example this i just read this this morning about saudi arabia's um the cost
01:15:24.920 to kill in saudi arabia so their interceptor missiles are like made by northrop grumman or
01:15:29.760 some shit and they cost two million dollars each and the iranian drones which do very little damage
01:15:35.280 frankly the sahed drones or whatever the cost like less than 200k to build so they're firing
01:15:41.060 a two million dollar missile to destroy a two hundred thousand dollar drone so if they can
01:15:45.860 fix that imbalance then they will absolutely win but i do see what they're saying that the way that
01:15:51.140 the the the u.s system is structured it's the military industrial complex and bureaucracy
01:15:55.740 and everybody's taking a cut in between so you can kind of bleed the u.s by just throwing
01:16:02.900 piddly little cheap shit that you can knock out by the millions and force them to shoot it out
01:16:08.580 of the sky and deplete their reserves that's what they're saying and i think there's a nugget of
01:16:12.980 truth in that but i think maybe you haven't take taken a look at the size of the fucking u.s
01:16:17.560 reserves because i don't i mean you haven't they i mean i know they've destroyed a lot of factories
01:16:23.280 in iran already have you destroyed a single northrop grumman factory i don't i don't think
01:16:28.640 you have and this is you know uh refocusing of what i was hearing during the early days of the
01:16:35.340 war in ukraine by saying that in the future there's gonna be no tanks there's gonna be no
01:16:39.180 planes it's going to be drones it's going to be cheap drones because they can take out an
01:16:43.080 aircraft carrier and you know we've had that debate before on the show or not with between us
01:16:49.260 but we've described those debates but now it's shifted to well yeah drones are just junk we
01:16:53.940 throw in the sky but you're going to waste your bullets on that junk like they've just admitted
01:16:58.320 it's like okay none of these drones are going to be able to just swarm an aircraft carrier and like
01:17:03.760 take it apart but i mean if you look at that i think the part of the strategy there is like if
01:17:08.420 you have all of these drones and you have like cheaper, slower missiles that do less damage,
01:17:11.760 but they do enough damage that you still have to shoot them down. And then when you've depleted
01:17:15.560 interceptors, then you can send in like $5 million hypersonics that actually do level a building
01:17:20.340 and they can't knock them out. And I look, I believe that some of that has been happening.
01:17:24.700 I don't know how many of the videos are real, but it does seem like Israel has taken some
01:17:27.940 hypersonic hits that were pretty serious. And it largely, that was just because at that particular
01:17:32.500 moment, they'd run out the fucking iron dome and it was time to drop some hypersonics on them
01:17:36.500 before they reload yeah that was the chosen strategy which is quantity over quality which
01:17:41.640 is that you can't get the iron dome so let's just because when i hear about the iron dome i remember
01:17:45.980 you know this very intricate very next gen missile defense system and i'm like was it like a laser
01:17:54.080 that sweeps across the sky i think it's a mix of like interceptor missiles and sea it's just
01:17:58.760 literally just a bunch of missiles that hit other missiles and then you think well let's just have
01:18:03.740 slightly more missiles than they do and of course because it's jewish their achilles heel is
01:18:10.080 everybody is siphoning at every level so it's way more expensive than it should be yeah right
01:18:14.480 if you were just producing them in a in an effective they've been doing missile clipping
01:18:18.860 for a century now just sabotaging themselves like first they have to make it but then they
01:18:29.120 need to like take parts off of it um so yeah those are just two very different interpretations
01:18:36.920 of what's going on just to give people a taste of you know it's it's nothing america is going
01:18:41.440 to win decisively or war has changed forever this is the fall of the greater american empire
01:18:48.720 the great satan is toppling or the great satan survives and thrives and i say the great same
01:18:55.280 because a lot of the American nationalists
01:18:57.460 I know, they would even embrace
01:18:59.320 that title. So, yeah, we are the great Satan.
01:19:02.160 Boo.
01:19:03.400 I don't care. Give us Greenland.
01:19:06.540 Cool.
01:19:07.280 Trump Satan?
01:19:09.980 Fucking the BBC
01:19:11.160 is reporting that Trump is Satan? Well, I guess I'm a Satanist.
01:19:14.460 That's what they would say.
01:19:16.020 Nice.
01:19:16.980 I've seen that live, yeah.
01:19:18.860 So Trump is a Jew. It turns out he's Jewish
01:19:21.400 and he's a pedophile and he drinks the
01:19:23.220 create the dream come well as long as i get a single deportation that's because you're not
01:19:30.620 getting mass deportation but if i get one mexican man deported it's all worth it
01:19:36.420 crush up as many babies in the in the baby crushers you want and slurp it up
01:19:44.460 because all that matters is i'm happy i feel good i feel good and i i really want to make
01:19:51.980 a career out of telling other people
01:19:53.960 that I feel good about
01:19:55.520 it is the dog sitting in the burning
01:19:57.980 building going this is fine
01:19:59.100 yeah this is based
01:20:01.840 this is
01:20:02.940 sitting in the building saying
01:20:05.200 this is what winning is
01:20:07.280 yeah this is what winning looks like
01:20:09.620 yeah
01:20:09.880 what if I just redefined winning to be burning alive
01:20:14.040 you ever think of that
01:20:14.940 Einstein
01:20:15.640 you ever think of that
01:20:19.500 Poindexter
01:20:20.380 as dmx once said to live is to suffer and i'm living it up hell yeah
01:20:29.020 all right so i think now we should probably get onto i had a couple of things i wanted to
01:20:37.900 the real news i really wanted to maybe i should talk about these couple articles i got here
01:20:44.920 because one of them
01:20:47.260 pertains to your work
01:20:49.020 and I wanted to get your read on it.
01:20:50.500 Oh, nice. Hell yeah, buddy.
01:20:52.580 I just want to briefly talk about this first.
01:20:56.000 Very provocative
01:20:57.180 title, Break the Asian
01:20:59.140 Machine Age.
01:21:01.460 This is somewhat related.
01:21:02.480 I wish I did that at work.
01:21:04.200 This was earlier this year. This was published in January
01:21:06.380 2026. I always had it on the docket
01:21:08.860 but I've never gotten to it until now.
01:21:11.180 And I just wanted to very
01:21:12.380 briefly pull a couple of
01:21:14.380 paragraphs from here just to get people an idea of what it's about um the asian machine age is
01:21:21.520 what he says the era that we're in right now that we must exit um and he just defines the asian
01:21:27.200 machine age psychology says a brand of obedience engineering that uses surveillance scoring systems
01:21:34.240 and fear-based incentives to reshape individual behavior and into a corral of algorithmic loyalty
01:21:41.180 it's a cybernetic authoritarianism
01:21:43.780 that adapts messaging directly
01:21:45.680 to the client
01:21:46.880 which is transforming human thought
01:21:49.380 movement and decisions into fenced in
01:21:51.480 machine readable data sets
01:21:53.460 how does the CCP organize
01:21:55.720 or operationalize the psychology
01:21:57.680 amongst population
01:21:58.600 we've got a lot of examples of what he's
01:22:01.640 talking about, we've talked about on the show before
01:22:03.160 everyone kind of knows how
01:22:05.260 the Chinese Communist Party deals
01:22:07.560 with data and surveillance
01:22:08.800 but he continues on here saying the state of the chinese state is like a coder parent that
01:22:15.480 programs behavior for maximum compliance how do state-owned businesses spread machine age
01:22:21.580 psychology and he goes into how china's 70 percent of china's banking assets are state-owned
01:22:28.000 enterprises and major and sectors like energy telecom logistics are run by the chinese
01:22:33.700 communist party um so how does the ccp export this type of psychology abroad he says most
01:22:41.300 local regimes have welcomed the ccp because they present as friendship amongst the global south
01:22:46.900 and not as british colonial masters the ccp manipulates naturally high trust institutions
01:22:53.460 in open societies embedding itself through culture commerce and coercion masked as diplomacy it
01:23:00.500 thrives on being presumed rational, peaceful, and benign. I think benign would be the most
01:23:05.820 important word there. While it frames criticism as racist or sinophobic. We've often heard the
01:23:12.720 phrase that we just, quote, deeply angered 1.4 billion Chinese people. Rather than generate
01:23:18.680 surplus revenues through exports, the CCP is exporting itself lock, stock, and barrel
01:23:23.800 through surveillance programs and other cybersecurity stuff.
01:23:28.860 How does the CCP project itself through the Chinese diaspora
01:23:32.740 and Western corporations?
01:23:34.820 It says the United Front Work Department,
01:23:37.100 which is a Chinese organization,
01:23:38.840 embeds in diaspora groups, universities, and business networks
01:23:42.280 that uses joint ventures, exchange programs,
01:23:45.560 and shell organizations for intelligence
01:23:47.220 and to build dependency into the ministries of target governments.
01:23:51.660 It says,
01:24:21.660 speak and create in changing rhythms you see an opportunity to break the neurotic control oriented
01:24:28.120 machine age and restore a western age of man so what do we think about all that this is just a
01:24:34.660 article from real clear defense does that track with what you know about china and do you think
01:24:41.840 it really has been sort of exporting a way of like i think the claim is that it's been exporting like
01:24:48.560 a Chinese way of doing this,
01:24:49.700 but I don't know
01:24:50.400 how much of our obsession.
01:24:51.580 It has.
01:24:52.320 Okay, you go.
01:24:53.180 It has, it has,
01:24:54.320 but I don't,
01:24:55.140 I think he's overselling
01:24:55.940 how far it's gone.
01:24:56.760 It doesn't,
01:24:57.120 it hasn't really affected
01:24:58.040 the West very much at all.
01:24:59.480 I think there are elements of,
01:25:01.460 like, for example,
01:25:02.000 a lot of stuff
01:25:02.620 that went on during COVID.
01:25:04.640 We can blame Bill Gates
01:25:05.840 all we want,
01:25:06.960 but the reaction to COVID
01:25:09.000 in the West
01:25:09.680 was a carbon copy
01:25:10.820 of the Chinese reaction.
01:25:11.880 I was living in China
01:25:12.700 as it was happening,
01:25:13.780 and I was watching
01:25:14.840 every fucking week
01:25:16.300 that China would do something
01:25:17.780 in Wuhan,
01:25:18.220 And then a month later, it was New York and Toronto.
01:25:21.680 So and we were saying at the time that the reason they're doing this, in my thought anyway, is it's not really you could say it's security theory or you say it's genuine concern about health in the case of covid.
01:25:32.540 But what it really is, is competition, in my opinion, that they see like the Western powers see that China can gain cheap, efficient control over an unruly population by using the stick instead of the carrot.
01:25:46.120 and the West is worried that China is going to pull out ahead
01:25:49.660 if they don't use the same tool.
01:25:51.280 So I don't know if they're exporting it so much
01:25:53.360 as they are forcing the West's hand
01:25:57.340 that they need to become more tyrannical
01:25:59.040 to face an opponent to tyrannical.
01:26:01.420 I don't think that that is going to play out very well for them.
01:26:05.260 It's an extremely corrupt system.
01:26:07.660 It's not actually very efficient.
01:26:09.220 They have all kinds of structural problems.
01:26:11.400 And then if you want to talk about actual export,
01:26:14.660 South America and Africa,
01:26:15.820 they have been doing it but even that uh the last couple years since covid they have actually been
01:26:21.160 pulling out a lot of they've been pulling out of africa in a big way and we all thought it was
01:26:25.160 hilarious that china was moving into africa and wondering is this the new bell and road initiative
01:26:30.640 and it turns out that it's empire of dust all over again because even the whole thing where
01:26:36.880 they say like you know a lot of these smaller countries they look at you know it's not it's
01:26:40.720 anti-colonial and they're they're just like a fellow you know global southern nation to me
01:26:46.800 sounds like the it sounds like the bad parent who just lets the kid have candy but then is then
01:26:53.440 you know it's fucking selling them as a sex slave later in life or something versus a good parent
01:26:57.700 who makes you eat your vegetables like you don't want to you never you never want to drink your
01:27:01.580 medicine right so nobody likes western colonialism because we do all these horrible things like we
01:27:06.620 make you fucking go to school and shit in a toilet and brush your teeth and we make you have you we
01:27:11.900 make you like maintain your own roads which is so awful right but the chinese don't do any of that
01:27:16.500 they don't make you go to school they don't make you brush ice cream for breakfast they don't build
01:27:20.180 they give you ice cream for breakfast they give you exactly what you asked for and then 18 months
01:27:24.820 later a bill comes due and it's all your golds your diamonds your timber your deep water port
01:27:29.740 all of it now belongs to them which is just the typical chinese way of doing business and then
01:27:34.680 And then, of course, what happens is you get a little war over it, and then China – I mean, I'm surprised, actually, that China is pulling out of these places.
01:27:41.320 It kind of shows their weakness.
01:27:42.440 I figured they would just put the fucking hammer down and take control of their governments, but they haven't been doing that.
01:27:48.140 That's – honestly, like hearing them leaving Africa, it's like, why didn't you just pull a CIA and take over their fucking government and run it as a Chinese satellite?
01:27:55.420 But I don't know.
01:27:57.100 I think they're – honestly, I think China is actually just that structurally weak.
01:28:00.940 Yeah, and he gets into it in the article, and we have to move on from it in a second.
01:28:04.240 but it gets a bit more into like the Tong structure and like all these
01:28:08.180 organized crime dynasties that are lurking.
01:28:11.100 And we kind of got into that when we talked about the triad presence and the
01:28:15.620 fentanyl industry,
01:28:16.640 but it's like they've completely integrated organized crime in China.
01:28:19.660 Even when I was living in Hong Kong,
01:28:20.800 like I've said this before,
01:28:21.540 like the,
01:28:21.960 the,
01:28:22.540 the triads in Hong Kong are essentially part of the police department and
01:28:25.740 it's an open secret.
01:28:26.480 Everybody knows it,
01:28:27.380 that the stuff the police department wants done,
01:28:29.500 they can't do it.
01:28:30.660 They just ask the triads and the triads do it.
01:28:32.400 It's like,
01:28:33.020 it's a normal part of life.
01:28:34.240 it's such a strange system because i'm looking at an image right now you can see it on screen where
01:28:38.400 i guess it's some kind of business function but i'm just going to describe it massive screen
01:28:44.860 red everywhere because of cast to be then there's xi jinping flanked by his guys on the other side
01:28:51.440 they're all kind of raising their fists like it's like a performance but they're old men right and
01:28:57.340 they're all wearing the exact same type of suit so they're like doing a like a coordinated dance
01:29:02.460 move almost but they've got
01:29:04.300 old Chinese faces and they
01:29:06.360 just look pissed off to be there and then of course
01:29:08.240 there's like soldiers
01:29:10.100 gathered in the front and then just a bunch
01:29:12.360 of Chinese dancers like
01:29:14.220 child dancers hitting gongs and
01:29:16.280 high school students yeah and I'm just
01:29:18.280 looking like is this a show
01:29:20.240 is this a speech but it's just
01:29:22.340 they love this shit yeah it's just a big
01:29:24.160 thing yeah a big spectacle
01:29:26.240 that
01:29:27.280 no one understands it doesn't go together
01:29:30.240 like it looks like there's soldiers there at the
01:29:32.340 but the colors all have to yeah well i mean what is the point to a spectacle that was just to you
01:29:37.580 know and i'm saying that i'm asking that question i don't even fucking know i think i know a good
01:29:43.620 spectacle when i see it you it's just so you're saying this this is spectacular but it's not a
01:29:48.840 good spectacle you what's a good spectacle is a monster truck rally you know did i tell you about
01:29:56.440 the time i went to beijing and saw the chinese acrobats and the highlight of the show was like
01:30:00.980 nine guys on harley davidson's going around in a steel sphere and like doing jumps over each other
01:30:06.680 i thought they were going to pull out like machine guns that's so fucking badass i'm like okay you
01:30:11.200 know what i like chinese acrobats it's fucking cool actually but it had the atmosphere i think
01:30:16.320 they actually played like rock music or something it was fucking great you're going in there just
01:30:21.060 rolling your eyes until your eyes are turned completely backwards i think it's going to be
01:30:26.380 a bunch of skanks
01:30:28.200 climbing up some silk.
01:30:30.360 You know?
01:30:31.040 It's going to be...
01:30:31.960 You know?
01:30:33.540 A bunch of like
01:30:34.020 45-year-old women
01:30:35.240 doing trapeze acts.
01:30:36.660 Turns out
01:30:37.340 it's a Kid Rock concert.
01:30:39.560 Hell yeah.
01:30:40.420 Turns out it's...
01:30:41.560 Kid Lock.
01:30:42.820 Kid Lock.
01:30:44.720 It's been...
01:30:46.100 What if Kid Rock
01:30:47.680 was black and Chinese?
01:30:49.580 I mean,
01:30:49.980 fundamentally
01:30:50.620 nothing would change.
01:30:51.600 is it possible kid rock is the blackest chinese guy in america yes kid rock is our first black
01:31:02.080 and chinese president people and dark implications is what they're saying and then there was this
01:31:08.120 other thing and we'll get to this now because uh the book i want to cover is not terribly long
01:31:13.540 but the rise of shippable micro factories that thesis driven i think you've spoken to something
01:31:21.420 like this before and i'm positioning this as sort of a response to the last thing which is
01:31:27.720 a different type of industry different type of business to something that's actually is a bit
01:31:32.660 more connect something that can break out of this you know totalitarian lumbering machine age so
01:31:41.340 title rise of shippable micro factories a subheading here can micro factories solve
01:31:48.500 prefabs economic problem by inverting the factory model now first of all have you heard about this
01:31:55.300 like i'm pretty sure you said something yes i've actually read a lot about it and i've had
01:31:59.520 discussions i mean we talked about it but i had discussions with other people about it as well
01:32:02.900 and i i like i like what it is i just take umbrage with the way it's being presented i might just
01:32:09.380 throw it to you to discuss this because you can speak to it better than i can i'll just read a
01:32:14.980 couple of things here um it just says traditionally prefabricated construction has meant large fixed
01:32:20.920 factories churning out modules or panels that get shipped to building sites the siren song is
01:32:26.540 industrial-esque economies of scale in an industry that's long evaded affordability and efficiency
01:32:31.220 the emerging micro factory model flips the script instead of shipping bulky housing components from
01:32:37.220 distant plants why not ship the factory itself to the project in other words take a compact
01:32:43.040 automated production unit and set it up right next to the job site by making factories shippable
01:32:49.720 and goods more locally produced micro factories aim to capture the benefits of off-site fabrication
01:32:55.300 without the drawbacks of centralized production so that's just to give people an idea of what this is
01:33:01.800 so you hear that what do you think you've looked more into this pros and cons get ahead okay so
01:33:09.320 micro factories are not micro factories they are workshops in a box essentially the whole point to
01:33:15.740 a factory is you have economies of scale you have levels of organization and planning in terms of
01:33:24.580 you know your your logistics and labor scheduling and even like the positioning of machines and you
01:33:29.580 get to a point where you have like hey you have a you have a robotic arm unloading from this machine
01:33:33.740 and you're putting it into this machine and you have, you know, April tags and QR codes
01:33:38.240 and little machines moving about, like, you can, the amount of labor reduction in a well-running
01:33:44.120 factory is insane.
01:33:46.160 And it is not what is going on with these cans.
01:33:49.180 They have these C cans with, like, they have a panel saw, like an upright panel saw for
01:33:54.540 cutting plywood.
01:33:55.580 An upright panel saw is slightly less footprint than a panel saw, but otherwise it's a panel
01:33:59.480 saw.
01:33:59.680 and then you have a robotic arm that like pulls a piece of plywood off a stack and sticks it on
01:34:03.940 the panel saw congratulations i mean you could have paid a mexican three dollars to do that
01:34:07.640 and instead you got a forty thousand dollar robot you're not actually saving and you're not only
01:34:13.360 you're not saving on the labor on that one instance but that's not a fucking prefab a prefab
01:34:19.180 the whole point to prefabrication is the vast majority of the work the framing work is done
01:34:25.540 and then it's put on a truck
01:34:27.720 and then the truck takes
01:34:29.500 the now already fabricated
01:34:31.880 item to the site. So you're
01:34:33.500 not prefabricating it. You are literally
01:34:35.400 just fabricating it. You're fabricating it at
01:34:37.540 the site. And why do I think that's
01:34:39.360 important? It's again because the economies of scale
01:34:41.600 in your little C-can on
01:34:43.480 site are nowhere near
01:34:45.360 the economies of scale that
01:34:47.480 you get in the factory. All the cases
01:34:49.360 that I've seen where they're evaluating the efficiency
01:34:51.480 they're not comparing
01:34:53.000 the efficiency of the
01:34:55.280 the the microfactory to an actual prefab factory they're comparing it to a laborer on site yes
01:35:02.380 it's more okay labor on site what that means is you've just and then if you just compare it to a
01:35:07.800 labor on site this is actually a great product it's amazing everybody every town should have
01:35:12.980 one of these because it actually makes construction labor on site more effective but it's not a
01:35:19.560 fucking replacement for prefabs not even close because yeah to me i read about this it's you
01:35:26.880 know it doesn't get into the details of like what these shipable micro factories would actually be
01:35:33.420 capable of but it stands to reason that of course they wouldn't be able to produce at the scale of
01:35:39.640 an actual factory so it's like you it's almost like a 3d printer right you hear about 3d printer
01:35:46.360 think of all the things like a 3d print you could actually only do a very minimal amount of things
01:35:51.560 and it's incredibly expensive to set it up and do it and it's i guess it's cool to have it there but
01:35:59.000 is it a replacement for an actual manufacturer or like a bunch of a room with a bunch of
01:36:04.360 machinists in there or whatever so like what's the future of these micro factories is is this
01:36:09.960 Is this the future?
01:36:12.200 Is this employed more?
01:36:14.300 Can this help, really, or no?
01:36:16.540 So I'll say there is a certain – I'm not a construction guy, okay?
01:36:21.380 But there's a – I would call it a category of labor in construction, which prefabs currently don't touch, which is like you could call it the assembly, right?
01:36:31.540 So in the prefab, you have like, let's say you have an SIP, like a structurally insulated panel, which is essentially a giant, a giant wall panel, huge, eight foot tall, 40 feet long, which, by the way, these microfactories cannot produce.
01:36:44.240 Prefab factories make them.
01:36:45.640 Prefab factories ships a SIP.
01:36:47.660 The SIP has got insulation.
01:36:49.040 It's got wiring ducts.
01:36:50.080 It's got the part, maybe part, you know, it's got the frame for the window.
01:36:53.880 It's got interior and exterior siding.
01:36:56.280 And it's got fucking everything.
01:36:57.640 but the guys on site they still have to jack it up into place they have to fix it in position
01:37:04.260 and they still have to put the floor in they still have to put the plaster up they still
01:37:08.080 have to paint the walls they got to do electrical they got to do plumbing they got to do finish work
01:37:11.720 they got to do all kinds of things right like when we're talking about quote-unquote building houses
01:37:16.100 the framing is like the fun gratifying part because it goes fucking fast as it is right
01:37:21.700 It is kind of color by numbers.
01:37:23.760 The stuff that requires expensive labor and a lot of time is everything that comes after the framing, the actual interior and exterior work.
01:37:31.900 So I think the future is something like a microfactor that could be applied to any of those tasks.
01:37:40.180 And you have to probably take them piecemeal.
01:37:42.140 Like you have one, shout out to Mike, a robot that just polishes hardwood floors and prepares them for sealing so that you can have a robot do that instead of a person.
01:37:54.520 So that's kind of the future there.
01:37:55.920 But, I mean, in terms of prefabs, I think prefabs are already a great model.
01:37:59.540 I think you should be looking at more automation in prefab factories so that things like a 40-foot SIP panel is cheaper.
01:38:06.760 Because right now, those big SIP panels are not that competitive.
01:38:10.080 And you know why?
01:38:10.780 it's because the factories where they're made are not robotic they're just a bunch of fucking
01:38:15.060 guys on an assembly line so at least the ones in in ontario are so uh yeah i mean you could put
01:38:21.560 automation in the prefab plants and you could be making much cheaper prefabricated panels bringing
01:38:26.820 them to site and then if you had say a robot you look you already use a robot to lift it into
01:38:31.980 position but if you had a robot that was tacking them in place and then a robot that was doing
01:38:36.620 interior finishing and exterior finishing i think the last hardest thing to automate is going to be
01:38:41.620 the you know power and water the utilities which currently are done by literally like
01:38:46.380 union ring wearing experts so yeah all right that's better than anything i could have provided
01:38:53.000 i think that's a better optimistic future than i because we're done but i wanted to
01:38:58.980 jump and we probably don't have too much time to cover this but um this is more setting up
01:39:06.200 next book um i read one recently because we had covered the ira in shin fein and the irish
01:39:14.120 republican movement i wanted to contrast that against the flq which is a separatist group
01:39:23.080 a militant separatist group some would say a terrorist group that existed in quebec it was
01:39:28.920 a quebec nationalist group and i had this book titled the october crisis 1970 an insider
01:39:36.120 view by william tetley it's kind of interesting this was recommended to me by someone else
01:39:42.160 and as i was reading it it was very clear that by insider view he was not referring to his his
01:39:49.140 status inside the flq or really any place that matter he was just a journalist really and but
01:39:55.420 he was following this very closely at the time he might have had access to certain back rooms of
01:40:01.940 power but his insider view was just a as a journalist and be vehemently on the side of
01:40:09.100 the government and very anti-flq i thought it would be a bit more pro-flq but we'll save that
01:40:15.900 for the next book on the next episode but i thought this was an interesting overview
01:40:20.340 of what the october crisis was and for people who don't know what we're talking about we'll get into
01:40:26.460 it in just a moment but then also a liberal's point of view about how the government did
01:40:31.980 everything right and god bless pierre trudeau and what whatever it might be and that you know
01:40:38.360 the judges you know issuing the war act was pretty smart because these these were these
01:40:44.560 were bad guys um he had claimed that there was too much you know celebratory stuff written about
01:40:52.680 the flq i've never read it i actually found it quite hard to find anything significant written
01:40:57.560 about the flq which i thought was odd until i got a better sense of how relatively small and
01:41:03.240 inconsequential it was which isn't to say that bombs didn't explode and people didn't die we're
01:41:09.080 going to get into that but in fact let's just start right now by talking first of all before
01:41:13.600 we get do you know anything about the october crisis are you familiar no very little i mean
01:41:17.840 i've heard fort and some other people talk about it but i actually don't know that much
01:41:21.120 Yeah, it's going to be fun getting into the FLQ.
01:41:24.820 I'll just start by saying, you know, on October 5th, 1970, James Cross, the British Trade Commissioner, was kidnapped from his home in Montreal by a group of young French-Canadian terrorists.
01:41:37.560 The Front de Libération du Québec, or the FLQ, intent on separating Quebec from Canada.
01:41:43.520 Three days later, Pierre Laporte, the Minister of Labor in the Quebec government,
01:41:48.560 was kidnapped from the front lawn of his home in what appeared to be a skillful commando operation
01:41:53.960 from another separate FLQ cell.
01:41:58.040 Students and others demonstrated in favor of the FLQ throughout Quebec
01:42:02.020 and called for the exchange of these two men for 23 jailed FLQ terrorists
01:42:07.320 who had been responsible for bombings, holdups, and six violent deaths.
01:42:11.420 At the request of Quebec, the federal government sent the army into the province on October the 5th, and the following day, two governments acting together brought the War Measures Act into effect and proclaimed the state of apprehended insurrection.
01:42:26.940 We'll get into that a bit later.
01:42:28.680 All in all, 497 individuals were jailed without warrants, thus cutting off the demonstrations that were threatening to turn violence and bloodshed.
01:42:37.760 Now, one of the two men who was kidnapped, Pierre Laporte, was found strangled to death on October 7th, and public anger turned to revulsion.
01:42:47.780 James Cross, the other man who was kidnapped, was released on the 3rd of December.
01:42:52.200 His captors were flown to Cuba as part of an agreement reached with the authorities, which is pretty wild.
01:42:58.240 It's the only time I've ever heard of that actually being pulled off, where they weren't just ambushed at the airport or something.
01:43:02.820 They actually let them go. It was crazy.
01:43:04.060 those responsible for kidnapping and murdering
01:43:06.560 Laporte were captured once again
01:43:08.420 on December 28th in 1970
01:43:10.420 I guess it's
01:43:12.260 drinking rum from a fucking
01:43:14.600 coconut down in Cuba, I don't know
01:43:16.360 he continues on here
01:43:18.560 he says the October crisis was not
01:43:20.400 merely a series of events that took place
01:43:22.460 from October to December 1970
01:43:24.200 it was rather one episode in an
01:43:26.360 accumulation of
01:43:28.440 revolutionary clandestine and terrorist
01:43:30.460 activities from 1963 to
01:43:32.460 1973 by at least 50 flq members or sympathizers whose declared aim was to form a workers state
01:43:41.060 in quebec and to separate quebec from canada now i'd just like to pause there and say up front
01:43:47.980 if i don't get to it later that this is the main component of the flq that separates it
01:43:54.540 from the ira and there's other you know dimensions to this as well but this is what will be expounded
01:44:02.940 upon in the next episode but the flq while it didn't start off as a marxist organization it
01:44:09.520 became a marxist organization by a couple of the men who ended up taking charge originally it just
01:44:15.760 wanted to separate quebec from canada and then it turned into anti-capitalism and we need to create
01:44:23.480 workers utopia and we need to take part in this larger international proletarian struggle and
01:44:30.040 while i it's my belief that in ireland shin fein might have tilted a bit more towards the socialist
01:44:38.040 and marxist side over the ira they were never a marxist organization i should make that clear
01:44:44.200 maybe i didn't make that clear the previous episodes i didn't want to give the idea that
01:44:47.000 that Sinn Féin were actually leftist revolutionaries.
01:44:51.740 There was something like that happening inside of it,
01:44:54.840 but it wasn't officially.
01:44:56.560 It became that later.
01:44:58.380 Sinn Féin right now is straight up a leftist feminist organization,
01:45:01.900 as I'm sure the FLQ would have been as well.
01:45:04.620 But they just wanted a worker's state in Quebec
01:45:09.020 and to completely destroy capitalism.
01:45:12.600 And also, by the way, attack the Catholic Church,
01:45:15.100 which didn't make them very popular
01:45:17.920 with a lot of Quebecers
01:45:19.200 and made them more popular with students
01:45:22.260 and young people
01:45:23.600 because they thought it was interesting
01:45:25.580 so he continues on here
01:45:28.680 he says these people were aided
01:45:30.040 wittingly or unwittingly
01:45:31.400 by what is probably an equal number of persons
01:45:33.900 who could be counted on to appear
01:45:35.580 during public demonstrations
01:45:36.840 the FLQ began at the end of February 1963
01:45:40.580 as a separatist revolutionary movement
01:45:43.060 without socialist or Marxist aspirations.
01:45:47.900 The FLQ manifestos of 1963 and 1970
01:45:52.380 demanded a separate Quebec,
01:45:53.840 but the one in 1970 called for a worker state,
01:45:57.080 which was one of the major contributions
01:45:59.340 of Pierre Valliere and Charles Gannon,
01:46:02.720 two political activists
01:46:03.820 who joined the organization in 1964.
01:46:05.880 And the next episode,
01:46:06.900 we're reviewing the autobiography
01:46:08.880 of Pierre Valliere's.
01:46:11.560 You want to know what that one's called?
01:46:13.060 what the white niggers of north america hell yeah yeah so but this guy's life was so fucked up
01:46:21.960 and uh later on he just became gay like like after the fall the flq he came out as gay and
01:46:29.000 just started advocating for lgbt issues like he's just this fat gay idiot but he was running this
01:46:35.540 organization and obsessed with just attacking the status quo and so quebec the separation of
01:46:42.180 quebec was really subordinate to the larger revolution of like attacking the idea of ownership
01:46:50.600 and things um so because it didn't have that singular focus really in my view it was always
01:46:57.240 destined for failure um but he continues on here he says just as an insurrection can be achieved
01:47:03.040 by a relatively small number of people so can a revolution one example is cuba where fidel castro
01:47:09.220 began with a band of eight men in 1956 this small group of fighters disembarked from a yacht in
01:47:16.080 orient province and within a month had been reduced to 12. nevertheless castro managed to
01:47:20.540 fight off 30 000 troops loyal to president batista and you know we've talked about the story before
01:47:26.600 but the idea was this is what they were thinking the entire time it's like maybe you don't need
01:47:31.080 everyone on your side a revolution can sort of come from without it can storm the palace and
01:47:38.640 We didn't really see that in the IRA, but I think they all had these dreams of, you know, even though we're unpopular, even though people don't even fucking like us, we can still win the revolution and drag them kicking and screaming into our utopia.
01:47:56.120 I think the people who think that set themselves up for failure.
01:48:00.560 So, and he gets into that here.
01:48:03.080 And I liked this part.
01:48:04.380 I believe this to be true.
01:48:05.440 he said an equally important reason for the end of the violence has to do with the nature of
01:48:10.800 quebec society french canadians are not and never have been a violent people i might disagree with
01:48:16.460 that but quebec is not the kind of violence plagued society that one finds in so many parts of the
01:48:21.460 third world compare quebec even with northern ireland where until recently protestants routinely
01:48:27.220 killed catholics and vice versa and where a handful of paramilitary groups necessitated
01:48:32.900 the maintenance of the special police troops and the cost of three billion a year so
01:48:36.560 i wouldn't say northern ireland was a third world country but what he was trying to identify there
01:48:42.040 and this is what i agree with was that the people weren't ready for it the people of ireland had
01:48:48.440 been set up to accept what the ira the separatist republican movement was going after because there
01:48:56.500 been centuries of opposition to british rule people were on the same page with that and even
01:49:03.460 if you didn't have them as active members of your group you didn't need them to be but you needed
01:49:08.260 them to be sympathetic so you could count on them for intel you can build an informant network you
01:49:14.820 can find places to hide you can find places to smuggle you can make all this stuff work
01:49:19.700 it's not just ideology it's it's basic by the numbers can you form a logistics network
01:49:26.500 you can do that in ireland because you have the people on your side there is a populist element
01:49:32.560 to this people don't like talking about populism when it comes to politics but we're not talking
01:49:36.840 about politics we're talking about war that's what this is and how you're going to conduct a war for
01:49:42.800 the people when you don't have the fucking people on your side that's what so many of these marxist
01:49:47.420 revolutionaries fail to grasp that's what the flq failed to grasp in my view because if the
01:49:53.060 government issued the war measures act and they had the mandate of the people and they could
01:49:59.140 count on these people to rise to protect them to you know be part of this cause maybe they
01:50:05.160 wouldn't have needed to flee to cuba just to get arrested but it turns out that the people
01:50:10.560 quebec weren't ready for this they weren't primed for it they weren't going to go along with them
01:50:15.380 and I think that's important for people to remember
01:50:17.940 that you actually do need the mandate of the
01:50:19.860 people to conduct something like
01:50:21.860 this and you find with a lot
01:50:23.960 of the Marxists and I would
01:50:25.880 say even right wing revolutionaries
01:50:27.720 they don't like the people
01:50:28.800 not really
01:50:30.400 how many times have we seen that
01:50:32.760 how many white nationalists
01:50:36.020 hate white people
01:50:37.220 let's be honest
01:50:38.860 how many Canadian nationalists
01:50:42.080 hate most fucking Canadians
01:50:43.800 right what's the the entire elite theory class guys you know like there's a there's whole
01:50:48.920 categories of dissident right guys who just have absolute disdain for the average white person
01:50:55.240 yeah they're they're kinfolk they're countrymen they're their own ancestors even like they and
01:51:01.560 if that's the case then what are you even doing it for some ill-defined utopia um and here's the
01:51:08.600 interesting part like where's the the party quebecois or the bloc quebecois fit in and he
01:51:14.640 says uh the party quebecois which is the main uh political party in quebec if people are unaware
01:51:20.780 at the time anyway they wanted a solution to the crisis but one decided on by quebec so that was
01:51:27.500 one stipulation like we're going to solve the flq thing we don't want the federal government involved
01:51:31.820 who maybe Quebec couldn't
01:51:34.720 contend to this themselves, but
01:51:36.800 it objected
01:51:39.000 to the federal government's intervention
01:51:40.280 by the Ontario Premier
01:51:42.900 and
01:51:44.360 they made a strong declaration against
01:51:46.800 them, but they never really acted on it.
01:51:49.320 The Parti Quebecois,
01:51:51.100 although opposing violence,
01:51:53.200 they didn't like the terrorism,
01:51:54.700 but they were reluctant to criticize the
01:51:56.660 FAQ because they also wanted
01:51:58.640 Quebec's separation, right?
01:52:00.380 Their goals were actually aligned.
01:52:03.080 Thirdly, the Parti Québécois, they wanted a youth vote.
01:52:07.660 And they were reluctant to curb or even criticize the students who were demonstrating in favor of the FLQ.
01:52:13.780 So it was very self-serving.
01:52:15.160 And here you see something that might, from a distance, look like what was going on with the IRA and Sinn Féin.
01:52:22.780 But Sinn Féin and the IRA were created way more unified and maybe around the same time.
01:52:29.020 But the FLQ had the tolerance of the Parti Quebecois, but they weren't joined or unified in any way.
01:52:37.140 So you could say that the FLQ had a political arm in the Parti Quebecois, but it's like, no, they kind of shared a goal, but it was always tenuous.
01:52:47.460 And that was the main point of the downfall as well.
01:52:51.020 It would have been better if the FLQ had made its own political party, but they would have no interest in that.
01:52:56.820 it goes into here
01:52:59.680 but the two figures
01:53:01.060 Pierre Valliere and Charles Gagnon
01:53:03.480 Valliere and Gagnon joined the FLQ
01:53:05.620 informally in
01:53:07.400 64 and by 65 they've been able
01:53:09.560 to redirect its activity towards
01:53:11.420 the instigation of labor unrest
01:53:13.680 in their view an intensified
01:53:15.800 bombing campaign
01:53:16.920 more bombs than bigger bombs
01:53:19.020 would lead industrial and rural workers
01:53:21.640 to rise up
01:53:22.560 this of course did not happen
01:53:24.580 The FLQ targets were not just the English, but business and political establishments generally.
01:53:30.720 So imagine that, right?
01:53:32.280 Because at least with, again, contrasting against the IRA, they're out there fighting British soldiers, hitting British bases, and eventually targeting British businesses.
01:53:44.740 But imagine if the IRA was out there also blowing up Irish businesses, which is what they were doing.
01:53:49.740 It's like, yeah, they were just attacking shoe factories and shit.
01:53:54.580 just because their enemy was not canada it was capitalism so if you were a quebec business owner
01:54:01.620 the flq might be coming for you as well because they see you as just another
01:54:06.100 fucking oppressor like they're so stupid like i'm just gonna just the the big reveal here is
01:54:12.260 that the flq is fucking retarded and like anyone who says the flq is interesting is
01:54:17.620 is wrong and dumb well i mean they're french communists so of course it's not like you know
01:54:23.540 they only became communist later
01:54:25.520 it's like no
01:54:25.960 they came up in like the early 60s
01:54:28.980 and by the mid 60s
01:54:30.280 they'd already been taken over
01:54:31.560 by the dumbest communist fag
01:54:33.880 imaginable
01:54:34.600 like a fat fool
01:54:36.000 so I'm like
01:54:36.840 it had the youth interest
01:54:39.260 they just like when people
01:54:40.600 bomb things dude
01:54:41.820 like they don't fucking care
01:54:43.400 they like anyone
01:54:45.700 who wears a bandana
01:54:48.460 and throws a grenade
01:54:49.840 and we still kinda do
01:54:51.520 they still kinda like that
01:54:53.240 and it's like maybe they overestimated
01:54:56.140 how popular they were with the youth
01:54:57.900 you ever think of that
01:54:58.680 in 1968
01:55:02.040 this is great
01:55:03.340 a secret 8 page document titled
01:55:05.920 revolutionary strategy
01:55:07.620 and the role of the avant-garde
01:55:09.760 understood to have been written by
01:55:11.760 Pierre Vallier outlined the FLQ's
01:55:14.260 long term strategy of successive
01:55:16.200 waves of robberies, violence,
01:55:18.180 bombings, kidnappings
01:55:19.520 and selective assassinations culminating
01:55:22.260 in insurrection and revolution.
01:55:25.040 And the document wasn't made public until much later.
01:55:29.160 In that same year, a guy named Lacongue
01:55:31.860 described the four stages of the revolution.
01:55:34.740 Step one, organization.
01:55:36.240 Step two, training, agitation, and propaganda.
01:55:39.020 Step three, a show of force.
01:55:41.440 Step four, the coming to power
01:55:42.940 of a provisional government of Quebec.
01:55:45.780 You know, these steps skip a lot of steps.
01:55:49.320 Step one, organization.
01:55:50.500 Okay.
01:55:51.340 Step two, training.
01:55:52.740 Gotcha.
01:55:53.860 Step three, show of force.
01:55:56.120 Okay.
01:55:57.020 There might be something in between there.
01:55:59.200 Step four, we come to power.
01:56:04.180 That's it?
01:56:05.820 It turns out there's no conflict.
01:56:07.700 And so many revolutionaries, Marxist revolutionaries, to this day think that's what it is.
01:56:12.520 If we blow enough things up, people will wake up and start blowing up things with us.
01:56:17.680 has that ever happened
01:56:19.900 has that ever happened
01:56:21.260 even look at guys you're in the 70s
01:56:24.340 you had examples of other communist
01:56:26.200 revolutions throughout
01:56:28.080 you know Middle East Africa
01:56:30.160 South America wherever it's like
01:56:31.360 just model that for them you just have this big gap
01:56:34.140 where it's like and then people will just start
01:56:36.000 killing their landlords
01:56:37.620 no
01:56:39.700 and they were genuinely surprised
01:56:42.220 when people didn't
01:56:43.820 this is so
01:56:46.280 I'm glad they got arrested.
01:56:48.320 They just got arrested for being dumb as shit.
01:56:53.340 And just to speak a little bit to the War Measures Act,
01:56:56.840 because this is the most controversial part of the story.
01:57:00.760 It says,
01:57:01.220 While the Canadian public regards the use of the War Measures Act
01:57:04.620 as central to the October crisis,
01:57:06.860 most of those living in Quebec at the time
01:57:08.520 associate the crisis more with the presence of Canadian troops in the streets.
01:57:12.720 Regardless of which event one chooses to empathize,
01:57:15.080 There needs to be a clear distinction drawn between calling in the Canadian Army and then invoking the War Measures Act.
01:57:22.320 Those are two different things.
01:57:23.740 When the federal government sent the army to Ottawa, to the Ottawa region in 1970, the only person who seemed to have doubts was John Diefenbaker.
01:57:31.820 The Quebec government, for its part, called the army into Montreal and the movement of troops from Valcartier to Saint-Hubert had started at two o'clock noon.
01:57:41.100 although Quebec government called in the army
01:57:44.100 on the 5th of October
01:57:45.620 the application of the War Measures Act
01:57:47.720 was not requested by the city of Montreal
01:57:49.760 until that same day
01:57:51.120 so he's making the case that
01:57:53.340 Quebec basically wanted the army there
01:57:56.120 they just couldn't say
01:57:57.620 which may very well be the case
01:58:00.100 you know
01:58:00.800 depending on how much they thought
01:58:02.940 the situation was getting out of control
01:58:05.060 but
01:58:05.820 it says what caused the city of Montreal
01:58:09.360 and the government of Quebec to call upon the government of Canada
01:58:12.340 to declare a state of, quote, apprehended insurrection
01:58:16.200 under the War Measures Act.
01:58:17.740 Of course, it must be understood that the War Measures Act
01:58:20.080 at that time could only be used in three circumstances,
01:58:23.060 and this is important, war, insurrection, or apprehended insurrection.
01:58:28.100 Now, that act has since been repealed.
01:58:31.800 And so what's interesting is that last one,
01:58:34.320 which is apprehended insurrection,
01:58:36.860 which is, like, it's not an actual insurrection.
01:58:39.360 It's more like you get the sense that one is forming, which is what a lot of people took exception to.
01:58:45.540 It's like, this is, you're issuing the War Measures Act.
01:58:47.920 This isn't a war.
01:58:48.640 This isn't an insurrection.
01:58:50.520 But you're bringing the hammer down.
01:58:52.340 You're flexing your power in a way that you shouldn't.
01:58:56.160 But, you know, I don't know how unpopular it is with Canadians still.
01:59:02.020 I think it's just seen as more a piece of historical trivia.
01:59:05.860 You know what I mean?
01:59:06.940 Yeah.
01:59:07.300 and and the the question is though that what constitutes apprehended insurrection and we're
01:59:14.840 talking with this just the beginning of the episode about a bill c9 you know what what can
01:59:20.240 be classified as terrorist because it's not about bombs and kidnappings anymore it's just words
01:59:25.240 it's just making a certain group feel uncomfortable that might be enough to bring down the hammer of
01:59:33.620 the state on you you know yeah here's the thing this is where he let his fucking his his liberal
01:59:41.780 tendencies take over because this entire book he's downplaying it right i'm aware of that i'm aware of
01:59:47.940 him saying the issue of the war measures act and yeah it wasn't ideal but you know it it made
01:59:55.540 everyone get a bit more sane that's what he's saying here he goes here he says invoking the
02:00:00.180 War Measures Act had another beneficial
02:00:02.040 result. The written and electronic
02:00:04.440 press was not controlled by the
02:00:06.200 War Measures Act, except that it could not
02:00:08.260 promote the FLQ or their aims.
02:00:10.400 Yet the effect of the War Measures Act was to
02:00:12.220 cause much of the press to act with calm
02:00:14.420 and discretion for the first time.
02:00:16.800 So what he's saying there is,
02:00:18.120 the press used to be on the FLQ side
02:00:19.980 for a time, and then
02:00:22.320 they deployed the War Measures Act, which means
02:00:24.240 they couldn't do that anymore.
02:00:27.520 And he's acting like that's
02:00:28.480 that's just a very sober, clear-minded
02:00:30.880 thing that was an
02:00:32.400 unintended consequence. Like, no, you
02:00:34.500 fucking liar.
02:00:36.700 Tetley.
02:00:38.080 What a Tetley type thing to say.
02:00:40.680 Wasn't that, you know,
02:00:41.860 it was the purpose of it. Like, they legally
02:00:44.580 weren't allowed to say anything nice about
02:00:46.560 the FLQ, otherwise they'd be thrown in fucking
02:00:48.460 prison.
02:00:50.660 But that's the angle he took. The angle
02:00:52.540 he takes the entire book is that
02:00:53.940 the government
02:00:56.200 acted sanely and perfectly.
02:00:58.480 i'm not sure i agree with that i'm not sure that i'd like the flq right because the problem really
02:01:06.480 seemed to be the the government of quebec creating this quagmire you know i mean like
02:01:12.240 you've got these communists coming to power and you think it's a convenient way to popularize
02:01:19.040 quebec separatism not knowing what you were allowing to fester and then you had to just let
02:01:25.400 the Canadian government coming to clean up your fucking
02:01:27.740 mess because you've got too many
02:01:29.540 gay communists taking over.
02:01:31.640 You know what I mean? Anyway.
02:01:33.940 And that's pretty much it. That is
02:01:35.740 the October crisis. It's not like
02:01:37.740 the Troubles. You hear about the Troubles.
02:01:39.560 The Troubles take place over a long period of time
02:01:41.560 and there's tons of bombing.
02:01:43.280 This was, you know, a man died.
02:01:46.220 Yes.
02:01:47.480 Over the course of the FLQ,
02:01:49.640 you know, there's maybe half a dozen to a dozen
02:01:51.480 people died in assassinations or
02:01:53.600 or death sometimes they were accidental sometimes it was you know a collateral damage with a bomb
02:02:00.080 from a bomb um sometimes it was assassinations but their revolution was smaller it was in a
02:02:08.080 much shorter window of time you know like a decade really and uh there's way fewer people involved
02:02:14.760 but putting that to the side i think all those could have been addressed if it wasn't just
02:02:20.400 so explicitly a Marxist
02:02:22.680 organization
02:02:23.260 they lost sight of what they
02:02:26.480 should have been doing
02:02:28.140 which was Quebec separatism that needs to be
02:02:30.700 it the only thing
02:02:32.120 and you know the IRA
02:02:34.700 you know I'm not trying to defend them
02:02:36.680 too much but it made sense
02:02:38.880 there's a logic to what they're doing which is
02:02:40.640 that the British are here
02:02:41.940 we don't want them to be here
02:02:43.940 we will attack them till they leave
02:02:45.840 that's it that was all that they needed
02:02:48.500 to do but with Quebec
02:02:49.820 like who are you attacking and why you end up attacking your own countrymen because why you're
02:02:57.380 actually not attacking the government which would make sense i'm not advocating for that but that
02:03:04.040 will kind of make sense right but it's it's like you're you're you're not being invaded you are the
02:03:09.580 invader within your province and you're treating it like an invasion because you don't like the
02:03:16.360 people here you don't like that they're catholic you don't like that they're capitalist you don't
02:03:21.980 like you don't really like that they're french really you know um you hate them ideologically
02:03:27.440 you hate you know you hate every aspect of them want to change everything you know i mean so
02:03:32.460 yeah that's why in comparing the flq to the ira and we could do this with other groups as well
02:03:38.220 i just chose these two i'm like it cannot be understated how fucking ridiculous the flq was
02:03:46.560 and how like at every level like they were never destined for me you can't never destined for
02:03:51.620 success is what i'd say they were never going to get there you can't blame it on a schism you can't
02:03:56.540 blame it on any sort of betrayal you can blame it on that they got in over their heads they didn't
02:04:02.200 know what the fuck they were doing and even if they succeeded at what they were doing what they
02:04:08.420 were doing would not succeed overall just bombing randomly hoping that people awake you know so
02:04:16.080 anyway any thoughts on that no i mean i hadn't i didn't know that much about it but based on
02:04:21.700 on this reading it was pretty retarded yeah and we'll get into the autobiography of the guy next
02:04:27.660 time it gets worse which isn't to say that i'm not making any condemnation of quebec separatism
02:04:35.520 look i understand i get it i understand that there's a long history in that um and i'm not
02:04:41.720 speaking to louis riel i'm not speaking to any folk heroes in quebec any rebellious movements
02:04:50.640 but just the FLQ, because it does seem to be the more recent one,
02:04:56.260 we can make judgments based on that, I think.
02:05:00.040 So anyway, we'll get going right now.
02:05:01.960 Thank you so much for taking the time.
02:05:04.080 No worries, man. I'll talk to you later.