Blood Satellite - YEAR OF THE CRASH OUT

00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

00:00:07.720 blood satellite hey how's it going dimes phd pretty hardly dick pretty good good all right

00:00:30.260 That's a new one.

00:00:31.140 That was clearly off the cuff.

00:00:34.220 Why do you always have to blow up my spot?

00:00:36.540 Why do you always have to fucking stomp on me like a cigarette?

00:00:41.020 Perfect humiliation.

00:00:43.880 I want to talk about more than anything in the world,

00:00:46.460 because I need your read on the situation.

00:00:49.380 Kanye West is back in the news.

00:00:54.460 In the news.

00:00:55.220 Okay, in the news.

00:00:56.220 Yeah, let's hear it.

00:00:56.820 Well, what did you think?

00:00:57.500 Just back from the dead?

00:00:58.720 anti-semitic stunt by kanye west who now goes by yay directing viewers in a super bowl ad to go to

00:01:05.840 his clothing website after the big game the site only offered a single item a white t-shirt with

00:01:12.520 a swastika the commercial only aired in a few markets but on the biggest advertising stage of

00:01:18.660 the year building on a flurry of recent anti-semitic remarks on social media by yay praising hitler

00:01:24.840 and calling himself a nazi because i mean because we've been talking about this because it's been

00:01:30.520 up for maybe a week now this has been happening but then he went on telegram apparently but then

00:01:34.820 people are saying it's not it's like some croatian guy or something well it's funny everyone thought

00:01:38.780 it was him like literally anyone can just make it an account of that's y and e on but it says

00:01:44.460 official beside it so it's definitely because it says official like come on guys look my my name on

00:01:49.960 a lot of these platforms is dimes official and i'm i'm fucking nothing honestly you shouldn't

00:01:57.080 make accounts like that for yourself you should never be typing in the word official behind your

00:02:02.440 own name that should next you're gonna be talking in the third person it's not yeah uh but what do

00:02:07.880 you think about kanye west i've got some thoughts i look you know we i went through this thing when

00:02:14.540 he was doing like the presidential run a number of years ago i just think he's a retarded nigger

00:02:18.840 he's never been anything but that and if we're just enjoying how fucking retarded he is yeah

00:02:23.380 it's hilarious man it's like it's free entertainment a counterpoint yeah he's a

00:02:29.100 genius playing 40 chess he well kind of hear me out now he used to say that he's bipolar

00:02:36.380 and he worked that into his music as well okay so retarded and recently i caught him in an

00:02:42.660 interview saying that he was misdiagnosed and he believes that he actually has a form of autism

00:02:50.040 which actually just probably describes his behavior more and more and I look at Kanye West

00:02:57.500 and I'm like he's got the ability to step outside of himself and realize that he is a black man

00:03:07.300 and this is just how all black men feel at all times but isn't that strange the idea like every

00:03:15.000 black man feels like they're they're they're bipolar with autism they just don't have the

00:03:20.100 ability to understand that that's what that feels like what it's like it's like if steve jobs because

00:03:25.500 he loves steve jobs he's mentioned steve jobs before if steve jobs woke up as a black man one

00:03:31.800 day i bet he would say wow oh my god this is a i've never felt this before the sensation it feels

00:03:38.520 like i have autism and i'm afflicted with bipolar disorder it's just what it means to be a retarded

00:03:45.000 yeah he's just he's just he's remarking on what it's like to be black

00:03:50.760 buck status what the sigma my wife you know who understands what we do and what i believe but

00:03:58.360 but does not comprehend the depths of it.

00:04:02.260 You know, she was on the couch.

00:04:04.000 She's saying, did Kanye West really buy a Super Bowl ad that,

00:04:10.000 which is $8 million, by the way, that directed to a store?

00:04:13.060 And he's just selling like a T-shirt with a swastika on it.

00:04:16.460 And me completely absentmindedly was like, yeah,

00:04:19.500 but he doesn't believe in a swastika.

00:04:23.540 That's my thing.

00:04:24.500 I was like, he's selling the swastika.

00:04:26.540 He doesn't get it.

00:04:28.360 and i mean that i mean like he doesn't understand they're thinking should we buy do you think he's

00:04:33.420 one of us he's not one of us like he doesn't get it doesn't it doesn't resonate with him

00:04:37.460 he just first of all this whole blow up if someone had made a point where he's got a new album coming

00:04:44.600 out and i'm like are you sure and he does i had no idea but this was it's odd that this is occurring

00:04:51.060 right on the time a new album has come out called bully um and he's talked about it so the first time

00:04:56.840 he did this he lost everything he lost sponsorship deals he lost his adidas contract and i said you

00:05:01.700 know what fair not everyone you know would do that not everyone would give up hundreds of millions

00:05:09.720 of dollars to go after the jews the way he did i think some credit is deserved there right

00:05:17.820 but now he's just doing it to do it he's not losing anything except i bet he sold a lot of

00:05:24.820 shirts i bet this this is just a thing you can do now like swastika shirts yeah that's the the

00:05:31.040 only shirt that was on his store was a swastika shirt maybe did you so but i'm just saying guys

00:05:36.780 i don't know who's gonna buy them i don't know they weren't expensive like they're not designer

00:05:42.880 like i know like look i i get look shit i've i'd fucking buy one if i had some scratch but

00:05:48.280 we can't sell that i can't i can't see that like putting them back on you know what okay the point

00:05:53.100 i'm getting at here is is it a strategy maybe i'm not super comfortable with ascribing the concept

00:05:59.440 of strategy to somebody with a skull shape like his but is it a good strategy i don't think so

00:06:05.420 i don't think this is gonna this is gonna replace adidas him doing stunts you can do stunts like

00:06:09.360 this forever but i mean eight million dollars there's no way you're getting that money back

00:06:13.940 it sure what i'm saying is at this point at this juncture is this not the whitest thing you could

00:06:21.840 do yeah oh man i don't want to i don't like it but yeah i guess this is the full transformation

00:06:30.180 the initiation into the dissident right he's just a dr guy now what's he doing he's just trying to

00:06:37.300 shuck swastika shirts for clout yeah fuck maybe he's one of us he's he's actually just a fucking

00:06:45.560 Groeper now well he was four years ago that was the thing he was he was little uh little brown

00:06:53.260 fuentes so connie west was nick fuentes he was for a moment did you ever remember seeing them

00:07:00.180 in the same place at the same time while he was wearing a mask that's the thing yeah yeah they

00:07:03.900 went on stage but one of them was wearing a mask which one we don't know same guy so it's crazy

00:07:08.460 that mf doom can do that his whole career and everyone loves it then connie west does it for

00:07:12.820 a while shut up enough we barely tolerate slipknot doing it it's it's these guys are 55 and 60 now

00:07:23.200 take the fucking shit off you're very clearly exhausted and sweaty and no one's enjoying this

00:07:30.580 it's not deep oh the clown's still a clown oh it's been it's been 20 years of the fat clown

00:07:40.180 on stage well guess what he's another bloody clown and guess what he's got a fucking upside

00:07:46.100 down american flag carved into his head like like what a serial killer what it's like a guy a guy

00:07:53.900 who only read about wiki like serial killers on wikipedia decided to by the way not be a rock star

00:08:00.760 be a man on stage who slams a baseball bat into a keg what are we talking about you know so much

00:08:08.020 about slipknot i've listened to a lot of slipknot haven't you no i don't know any of this to me this

00:08:14.100 is a fever dream of the shit you're saying like guy with a flag on his he's hitting himself in

00:08:18.700 the face with a bat is an old fat clown like what is this i mean honestly i don't know how you get to

00:08:23.460 this age and this race without knowing a bit more about slipknot dude i wasn't even allowed to watch

00:08:30.700 teenage mutant ninja turtles when i was a kid so i'm the guy gotta take it slow here the older i

00:08:36.240 get the more cool and based your parents sound for not subjecting that as again my parents wouldn't

00:08:42.120 let me listen to marilyn manson good yeah i mean maybe at the time you want to but it's you know

00:08:47.540 what you weren't missing anything nothing gained nothing nothing lost yeah what was the last

00:08:53.460 musician that was banned by parents that shouldn't have been banned you know i mean like yeah they

00:09:01.060 would say i don't want i don't want to hear you listening to kiss it stands for knights in satan

00:09:06.520 service uh and as nick mullen uh correctly pointed out actually stands for kikes and shitty spandex

00:09:13.600 yes damn son where'd you find non-stop ass rape yeah like parents parents should ban the twisted

00:09:21.300 sister you're not allowed to listen to oh another thing where it's guys in drag talking about that

00:09:27.600 they don't want to go to school you know what i mean like if my son was listening to whatever

00:09:32.660 who's the new whatever fucking zoomer face tattoos is saying i don't want to go to school

00:09:39.180 and i want to talk jaden smith that's the that's the guy yeah you're not allowed to listen to that

00:09:45.560 you know what i think our generation was the last generation where it was practical to even

00:09:49.580 put those requirements in because when you're talking about vinyl or even cds your dad can

00:09:56.060 come and like take your cd or your mixtape or whatever but now everything's digital you got

00:10:01.840 fucking spotify you know what i mean like you'd have to just take your kids you take your kids

00:10:04.960 music away you think about how many people actually even like buy albums they don't it's

00:10:08.360 on spotify so you're just gonna take your kids spotify away because you can't like go on spotify

00:10:13.040 and block whoever the fuck so i mean i think it's i think i'm gonna be one of the dads that flies

00:10:21.980 off the handle i'm starting to see it now i'm doing it where like if my son he's not even two

00:10:28.580 years old yet but he's old enough to comprehend uh what you're telling him and it's an interesting

00:10:34.800 age i'm sure you saw this too where you'll tell him to do things he can't really enunciate words

00:10:39.220 of course but he can understand in detail what you want to do to grab something and he understands

00:10:44.680 like directions on how to stop so he'll be causing a ruckus and i'll he will be his mother will be

00:10:53.460 trying every trick in the book negotiating all that shit and then i will just be right at the

00:10:59.980 edge and i'll look at him i'll say i'm gonna take all your toys and i'm gonna put them in the garbage

00:11:04.780 if you don't stop doing this they're gonna all these toys i'm gonna put them right in the garbage

00:11:08.860 and he'll look at me and he'll stop whatever he's doing and i'm like one of these days he's not

00:11:13.020 gonna stop and i'm just gonna do it or i'm gonna walk in i'm not gonna walk into his room and he's

00:11:17.660 gonna be watching the what we just described some kind of the whatever the new version of drag is

00:11:24.400 i'm gonna take his whole computer like tony should have done with aj rip the ethernet cable out of

00:11:30.800 the fucking wall and just hurl it not even into the garbage into the garage you gotta do it i've

00:11:38.600 done it with my kids already i've done it with my kids and not even for for serious stuff but like

00:11:42.960 i i we have rules and it's like for me it's about not whether it's necessarily the worst thing ever

00:11:49.560 it's like there's a normative system and i which i love that phrase so much but like the idea is

00:11:53.980 that when i say there's a rule there's a fucking rule and if you break the rule there's a punishment

00:11:58.320 and you all know what the punishment is and it's always right there and it's gonna fucking happen

00:12:01.500 so if i tell you to clean this up and you don't i'm gonna clean it up i put it in the trash bag

00:12:04.740 and i do and i go and i put it in the driveway now they don't know it's not garbage day they

00:12:08.380 haven't figured that out yet but like we can we can negotiate bringing it back in but i need to

00:12:12.980 see some tears and i need to see some you know some some some shame um but yeah the thing is

00:12:19.660 when they start calling you on it you have to keep going further with it my dad did this with

00:12:22.840 me when i was a kid so i mean i credit my dad for for teaching me this that there is well i credit

00:12:27.880 my dad i i discredit my dad for not teaching me that nobody else knows this and so i go out in

00:12:33.860 the world and think that everybody else follows the fucking rules which they don't but because

00:12:38.100 they don't but then you think well what do you do you know i mean like what if if not yeah but

00:12:43.000 i'm not allowed to i'm not allowed to do this shit to people in the public sphere are you not

00:12:48.260 allowed to take their stuff and put like a grown-up stuff in the garbage and put we should

00:12:52.960 be allowed to do that though we should we want we want to live in a utopia where when some dumbass

00:12:59.300 when some dumbass cuts me off on the 401 i do have a a dash mounted shotgun i can blow his back

00:13:06.740 tires out with and everyone will clap because it is the morally right thing to do it's funny when

00:13:12.660 you we hear your versions of what ought to happen it does sound like an ai generated version of

00:13:17.540 something like the gun you got the gun and then the tires off but then there's also people there

00:13:22.340 where did they come from they just kind of nerd from the trees i was talking more literally like

00:13:29.220 what i said like you're at the office and there's somebody you don't like you take all their stuff

00:13:32.540 you put in the garbage bag and you say no what did i say and you put it by the side of the road

00:13:39.800 and it's not even they don't pick the garbage up from there but it's by being by the curb that

00:13:44.320 means something they get it they understand the message if you did that to a woman you know women

00:13:48.840 often learn these social cues from no longer their mother so they just learn it from tv but they don't

00:13:55.580 have the scripts in their brain to know what to do there and then as a result they will default to

00:14:02.920 being wildly horny how many generations back do you build before men are spanking women in the

00:14:08.780 office i don't think you go back that far not even not even that far not that far at all i want to

00:14:14.840 say the 60s but i'm feeling the 70s yeah because the 70s that was a real good cocaine era and

00:14:25.320 it was i think it was the dawn of a new type of degenerate sex so it was i'm spanking you but

00:14:31.140 this is also i'm getting naughty now i'm getting steamy whereas before it was like this hurts me

00:14:37.660 more than this hurts you it was very patriarchal in the 70s you saw the inversion as evola would

00:14:45.040 call it the true inversion of it now now guys are getting hot dogged up and it's it's sick is what

00:14:52.580 it is and it is that the women's fault is that the jews's fault find me a scalp bring me scalps

00:15:00.320 it's the jews's when people ask for scalps do you think they was it implied that was men's scalps or

00:15:07.680 do you get women's scalps too i never thought about it does it matter is this the scalps are

00:15:12.960 your enemy so it'd probably just be men because they're the one in the field you know the guy who

00:15:17.240 asks for scalps and he's going through

00:15:19.220 them like cards. He goes, ah!

00:15:21.440 It's a woman's scalp.

00:15:23.260 It's like, where did you get these? These aren't

00:15:24.720 I didn't know you could do that.

00:15:27.000 Did you get these wholesale?

00:15:29.280 You mean there's just like a fucking

00:15:30.900 scalpless woman walking around?

00:15:33.660 Wicked. That's not good.

00:15:35.500 Ugh.

00:15:37.400 That's gross.

00:15:38.960 This is a fucking old Civil War general.

00:15:41.520 I say, I say yuckers.

00:15:47.240 So I don't have a reference for this next part,

00:15:51.040 but I just wanted,

00:15:51.920 we're just having some fun talking about things

00:15:54.580 we remember recently and things that were told to me.

00:15:59.300 You know, the whole Doge thing we've been talking about

00:16:02.380 with Elon Musk going through,

00:16:04.740 they've been going through USAID

00:16:07.060 and all of the money that's been going to NGOs

00:16:11.400 and other groups that are pushing cultural issues and stuff.

00:16:18.260 Mr. Chairman, I previously served at the U.S. Agency for International Development

00:16:22.340 and the U.S. Department of State.

00:16:24.720 I've dedicated 35 years to international relations work.

00:16:29.420 The views I express here today are my own.

00:16:31.640 President Donald Trump's decision to shutter USAID reflects the agency's loss

00:16:36.360 of bipartisan support in Congress and the trust of the American people.

00:16:40.740 It exposes a bureaucracy that went off the ideological rails and no longer reflects the will or the values of the American people.

00:16:49.840 What should be and must be an effective tool of U.S. foreign policy has turned into a partisan global vehicle

00:16:57.660 focused on spending money rather than achieving concrete outcomes aligned with American interests

00:17:04.040 and on imposing radical social ideas that divide us at home and spur resentment abroad.

00:17:10.740 because everything moved after World War II from kinetic warfare and military occupation.

00:17:16.740 We used to militarily occupy the Philippines, for example, after we won the Spanish-American

00:17:20.580 War. But that was banned under international law, territorial acquisition by military force

00:17:26.120 in 1948. So we had to win elections. And we had to influence the passage of laws in foreign

00:17:33.480 countries by having an apparatus inside those countries that influenced the hearts and minds

00:17:38.840 of people which influenced who they voted for which then determined the government so you had

00:17:43.800 to move towards political vassalage rather than military occupation and what the smithmont act

00:17:48.840 did is simultaneous with the creation of this in 1948 congress recognized the frankensteinian

00:17:54.360 monster they were creating by authorizing a covert permanent department of dirty tricks and this is

00:18:00.920 their phrase not mine uh to do this cloak and dagger to in to to infiltrate in and co-op the

00:18:07.320 the universities, the unions, the media, the politicians, the judges, the whole swarm army,

00:18:13.900 what I have been calling for a long time the USAID Truman Show, because these people in

00:18:19.500 these foreign countries have no idea how many of the things they interact with that are

00:18:24.500 effectively a movie set being constructed by the U.S. State Department and its sister

00:18:29.840 influence orgs.

00:18:30.920 One thing that was becoming clear, and this is still in the process of occurring, so this

00:18:35.580 is in no way is the end of the story but the consensus that i was seeing on our side was

00:18:41.240 all the conspiracies were true yes like actually like we like they were more true than than even

00:18:48.560 we suspected actually we're like why first of all why is it that all these leftist content creators

00:18:55.020 and these celebrities are again so popular it's actually because they were given hundreds of

00:19:00.960 thousands if not millions of dollars from the fucking government that they were running as

00:19:06.240 llcs as individuals they're just getting money and then that got cut off and now they're fucking

00:19:12.040 gone furthermore all you're thinking like what why is it why is it so gay and they're like no

00:19:17.280 that's just it's it's a culture manifesting itself it's captured institutions no no no

00:19:23.040 there was just a spigot that was turned on over this faggot shit and you can turn it off

00:19:30.760 and then it crumbles it turns to ash and flies away it actually was that fucking easy there was

00:19:37.660 a conspiracy there was none of this was organic none of this was generative it it was it was all

00:19:45.700 just it was paid for and and i don't you can't even be sure these people were genuine about it

00:19:49.900 Maybe they're just vultures seeing free money.

00:19:52.160 I don't know.

00:19:52.620 I saw that quote the other day again.

00:19:55.260 The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing people he doesn't exist.

00:20:00.020 And it reminded me of that a little bit.

00:20:01.680 It's like it's not that there was a conspiracy.

00:20:04.440 This is the conspiracy of all conspiracies is to convince us that our opponent is real.

00:20:12.460 that our opponent is actually a huge body of true believing people with organic grassroots support

00:20:21.720 and they have you know they're intelligent and they're strategizing and they're deep and they've

00:20:26.100 got they're in the institutions it is like no they're they're actually not there's the parasite

00:20:31.620 is rather small it's just long and they have the resources to astroturf this shit and they've been

00:20:39.240 doing it for 100 years but you break a couple of those little links and the whole thing comes

00:20:44.720 screaming down in like three weeks and i i know we're not there yet and it could stand you know

00:20:49.240 we haven't won but it's crazy that like i mean i get like you said i knew that these places were

00:20:54.520 being funded and that it wasn't organic but when you look at it's like holy shit the bbc like like

00:21:00.160 almost every national radio station across all of europe and asia like what the fuck dude it's

00:21:07.440 everywhere porn they were funding porn stars you were literally making porn like what like i've had

00:21:14.000 to pull up this stuff up to make sure that the screenshots and the links i was seeing were

00:21:19.140 legitimate but it's everything it's the stuff we would joke about like oh there's an ngo that's

00:21:24.420 funding a trans theater project in nigeria so yeah and they got 170 000 american dollars which

00:21:32.240 made everyone involved in that millionaires over there and then it's just every think of a kooky

00:21:38.440 example and it was true and uh you know this works in other ways as well because it's not just the

00:21:46.000 american government it is in fact russia as well that i as far as i know we talked about this on

00:21:52.020 the show before it's been verified that tenant media of lauren chen's organization was funded

00:21:59.380 by russian interests to the tune of millions and millions of dollars they got uncovered

00:22:05.240 all the money evaporated and all of a sudden tim pool is panicking all of a sudden tim pool is

00:22:11.620 moving down to fucking west virginia taking his skate park with him you know like all the money

00:22:17.500 dried up but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it's america it's russia it's china it's it's

00:22:22.140 everyone but this is just to underscore the point that the only people i trust anymore are broke

00:22:28.120 people yeah like us like what we all you hear about us is like how we're scraping by and you

00:22:34.980 know trying to get ahead and like buy land and shit and yeah like thinking about crypto in a way

00:22:42.340 where you believe your future depends on it like hey this is multi-generational wealth you can't

00:22:47.800 trust all these financially comfortable people one example i could think of was christopher rufo

00:22:52.360 now he's an interesting case he's a guy on i guess our side he's on the right but not

00:22:58.500 as far as we are but he was accused recently by i think christopher brunet about accepting usaid

00:23:07.540 and they had this whole flow chart drawn up based off all the spreadsheets that were released and

00:23:13.420 they just drew it up into a flow chart and could track the money usa to this organization x dollars

00:23:19.880 then this amount to these three organizations and then him at the end so they could trace the

00:23:24.940 USAID money going right to Christopher Ruffo who I'm no fan of however you'd correctly point out

00:23:32.220 that well you know the last stop that the USAID money went to was like a financial holding company

00:23:39.280 that's just one of these companies that you know I don't have access to but I'm sure it exists which

00:23:45.700 is just oh we're a fund we just take millionaires monies and then we give we give that money to

00:23:51.660 other people he's like you can't prove it's like a black box basically and he said well you can't

00:23:56.980 prove that how that usa money went to me all you know is it went to this like financial black box

00:24:03.140 and then i got some of that but there was like 50 billion dollars in there and they got like 30

00:24:08.400 million dollars but i'm like okay but sure okay yeah the fact that you're a beneficiary should

00:24:13.700 be a black mark on your name but but stop stop the brakes because stop the brakes start the

00:24:18.920 brakes start the brakes start engage the brakes disengage movement but you've just really shone

00:24:25.760 a light on this whole ecosystem which is that how many of these financial black boxes are there and

00:24:31.560 how many people are just like why does it make sense that christopher ruffo who seems to be if

00:24:36.580 you check him he's like employed by three think tanks which produce fucking nothing right nothing

00:24:43.660 of value it's just these things that receive money and then sure i can't prove it came from

00:24:50.020 the government but why are you getting money at all why and how many other people are just linked

00:24:56.520 up to these just ominous orgs that just have a hundred billion dollars that just kind of gives

00:25:02.680 it out because yeah we just we like the manhattan institute or we like we like whatever your little

00:25:07.900 organization is so here's 20 20 like 20 million dollars real money these guys are making like

00:25:13.140 mid six figures look on it it's worth pointing out that on an ordinary day it's okay to look at

00:25:19.680 somebody who has money and just like make assumptions like oh they probably got it from

00:25:23.020 so and so or blah blah blah wherever the specific thing we're talking about here is in the in a

00:25:28.260 dissident space like if the if the narrative is that we are attacked on all sides by the government

00:25:34.500 and by huge opponents and there is no and we have to you know censor ourselves we can't even show

00:25:40.720 our faces because of things we talk about if you are in that position and you also have a ton of

00:25:47.960 spending money that's not right there's something something is not right right yeah it's like for

00:25:53.640 example like if this guy is supposed to be a dissident but he's part of a bunch of think

00:25:56.900 tanks that has a 30 million dollar fund no no no no no no this is bap this is these new york

00:26:02.040 faggots again all the all of these these uh post left grifters like you came here out of nowhere

00:26:06.800 if you came here out of nowhere but the nowhere happened to be like the fucking subway

00:26:10.740 and you were like a schizo fine i can believe that but you come in here and you apparently

00:26:17.160 when we unmask you are a bunch of jewish academics with millions and millions of dollars in funding

00:26:22.000 from unknown sources fuck you you are so obviously controlled and i didn't realize this until i saw

00:26:29.000 the flow chart until i saw the amount of companies and organizations and funds and

00:26:35.480 institutes that are in play just for the him just let's say Christopher Ruffo there was like 12

00:26:41.280 different organizations that were in the vicinity of this guy and a couple other people but I'm like

00:26:47.120 it's just a shell game at this point but I'm like I'm just seeing how money moves I'm seeing how

00:26:52.280 much money is involved and where it's moving and it's odd that's going to certain individuals

00:26:58.160 and i don't say this out of any jealousy i'm just i'm interested i'm confused like

00:27:04.580 why do these people get money because i was having this um conversation with someone earlier and i

00:27:10.560 this is what i'm building up in real secret coffee hours our paywall show but i'm like

00:27:15.760 there's this idea on our side of patronage and we need patrons right yes of course we need

00:27:21.980 investment we need money and capital and influential people to give it to us i understand

00:27:27.100 but and i apologize if i've said this before on the show but you have to understand that

00:27:32.120 patronage is transactional yeah and and the problem is that um i it i've never seen a

00:27:41.740 billionaire outsmarted by a broke weirdo yeah never once so these transactions if it wasn't

00:27:49.000 transactional we'd have the money the reason it's and what i'm saying is is the fact that

00:27:54.500 many of the guys on our side that are begging for money don't get any money is because they're not

00:27:58.800 offering anything. If you have a big platform and you cover a lot, then yeah, you're going to get

00:28:04.260 some money, but you're only going to get that money if you're going to twist your narrative

00:28:07.160 and your wording to fit the bill of whoever's paying you. Yeah. So the problem with these

00:28:12.260 transactions is only one side sees it as a transaction. Usually the patron saying that

00:28:18.160 i'm giving you money for something in return whereas the other side is usually just believing

00:28:25.160 well of course of course i would get money the universe is writing itself and it's rating glory

00:28:31.120 down upon me like all of those people i hate and this is artists this is entrepreneurs this

00:28:36.320 the types of people who you know can't become millionaires because of some personality defect

00:28:41.760 like myself like many others there's a reason we're not rich is because we're fucking freaks

00:28:46.740 I'm old enough to understand that when you desire patrons,

00:28:50.100 you have to understand that you are giving something up.

00:28:52.140 And that's the only way it makes sense to my mind is if you understand that

00:28:57.460 you are just, if they're,

00:28:59.120 if they're treating it like a venture capitalist where they've got a spread,

00:29:02.440 a spread of investments and it's you and 50 other people. And they're like,

00:29:06.200 okay, here's a wild political scene that I don't understand.

00:29:10.680 I'm going to throw a 50,000,

00:29:13.740 a hundred thousand dollars at each one of them and see who becomes big.

00:29:16.580 and then that's my it that's what gangsters do by the way too um there's this great story i heard

00:29:22.920 i'm going to mention a bunch of names nobody's going to understand but there's this um rapper

00:29:28.480 from baton bat they say baton rouge down there because they're black but it's baton i call baton

00:29:35.220 rouge but uh he's a rapper named boosie and uh he was he's really legendary down there he was in jail

00:29:41.800 and he got out of jail one time and he's a connect he's like a boss right uh he's been

00:29:48.340 connected to murders and stuff but he's kind of funny anyway he got out of jail didn't have any

00:29:53.900 money and cat williams comedian right just get floats him well it's like 25 000 free and clear

00:30:03.540 just throws some money and says go go be free and then uh i look at that and i'm like well that's

00:30:10.720 actually a gangster move um because you want these connected guys or someone you think is valuable

00:30:16.140 do them a favor this is what don corleone would do this is what gangsters have done since

00:30:20.080 time immemorial which is that i'm gonna invest in you right now and you need i'm gonna come back

00:30:25.240 later with a favor but that's how they treat investments they invest in down and out people

00:30:31.000 and then build them up and now you've got your pawns now you've got your rooks i've got your

00:30:35.380 bishops so i'm like you know that is also political investment that's also like i'm going to be your

00:30:42.100 friend when you need a friend but you best believe one day i will call upon you for a favor it's it's

00:30:48.340 that floating interest rate where you get the suckers who think that oh it's three percent now

00:30:51.880 everything's going to be fine and then they come back at you with the fucking 45 because none of

00:30:55.400 it was written down dude it's a fucking blank check you wonder who also did this was jeffrey

00:31:00.160 epstein this is his whole thing like that sounds like a joke but it's not this is a guy who made

00:31:06.200 money available you would go to jeffrey epstein if you were an aristocrat if you were a higher

00:31:13.640 strata society person go to him he'd make your money problems go away because everyone gets

00:31:18.280 into money problems bad investments your wife's a dumb bitch who can't stop crashing cars amazing

00:31:24.340 and you know stealing babies and whatever and you need you need money to make it away he would do

00:31:28.660 that now you're in his pocket i'm explaining something very simple and obvious but why

00:31:34.840 wouldn't that also be this why is that not also this flow chart of just murky organization that

00:31:43.060 says oh here yeah manhattan institute here's 10 million go hire uh some ex-leftist bitch to write

00:31:50.060 what do you do what do you do you publish white papers on what do people read white papers anymore

00:31:55.380 i don't think so i've written white papers i don't know who fucking reads them i think it's

00:32:00.180 just interns i think it's linkedin race you know the people who are linkedin who you would never

00:32:07.280 want to associate with they're the only ones to read white papers no one real reads white papers

00:32:12.440 that's all you produce but also that's the dream that's what i would love to i would let me just

00:32:18.140 say this i would love to get a million dollars a year to just churn out uh shit nobody reads

00:32:24.100 because i've been doing that for free you may as well get paid yeah i'm doing it for free

00:32:30.640 maybe i'd like a million dollars just as a treat i was thinking about it i could go for a million

00:32:38.260 i was thinking about it i could go for three billion i'm actually just doing a fucking roman

00:32:45.560 salute as i'm saying this i don't know what the fuck i'm doing i'm going yep i could go for a

00:32:50.820 i'm paying close attention to see which content creators are getting desperate though i saw a

00:33:00.880 video of vosh and he's like my job could go away like that he's snapping his fingers he's

00:33:05.620 you have a backup platform you're planning to go to if shit hits the fan yeah there's a corner

00:33:11.980 under uh like right next to the five in downtown seattle that i don't usually see other people

00:33:16.600 panhandling on sweating i just i like i like seeing people scared you know me i'm a simple man

00:33:23.780 i see i see my enemies contemplating suicide and i think i want to capture this moment i want to

00:33:30.420 bottle this i want to put it in a needle and inject it into me and them you ever been injected

00:33:36.520 with yourself did you did you see the thing in uh dc i guess they're checking the the most popular

00:33:45.920 google searches and it's like uh oh yeah it's like defense attorney criminal defense attorney

00:33:51.340 it's like they are dc yeah just in dc it's like that the second most popular search is like

00:33:59.660 dildo storage you just got you got so many you can't keep them in your house

00:34:07.360 do i know another enraging thing like as skeptical as we remain about trump

00:34:12.960 i i'm i feel like i'm getting some stuff that i've asked for yeah but i'm still not happy

00:34:21.280 and i think it's important to remain happy i'm just going to read a few headlines here

00:34:25.220 for people i'm looking at them these are sent to me by a friend of the show b i'm looking at this

00:34:31.600 is from october 31st of last year from cnn america won the war on inflation you still think the

00:34:38.120 economy stinks that's what they're telling us uh look at investopedia from september 19th of last

00:34:44.900 year jumbo rate cut was to defend basically fine economy says powell now i'm looking at uh npr the

00:34:53.460 numbers show the economy is doing great why isn't public perception catching up that's october 12th

00:34:59.860 of last year 2024 i'm looking at where is this uh cbr the economy has been great under biden

00:35:06.980 that's why trump won november 13th of last year now just uh a week or so ago i'm looking at

00:35:14.840 politico voters were right about the economy the data was wrong do not come do not come here's why

00:35:26.680 unemployment is higher wages are lower and growth less robust than government statistics suggest

00:35:32.760 see this is a hard one because when you're trying to be reasonable and you're screaming

00:35:38.540 for them to just stop lying one day they might one day they'll just stop lying and say you know

00:35:44.640 what you were right you're right it was all all the data was wrong just like the what we were

00:35:49.680 just talking about it turns out it was all one giant fucking conspiracy and it's being shut down

00:35:56.400 And I'm like, okay, okay, good.

00:35:59.760 And it turns out that all the data was wrong.

00:36:02.080 You felt like you were alone against a mountain of institutional power.

00:36:08.620 And every expert was saying you were wrong.

00:36:11.500 And guess what?

00:36:12.760 It turns out you were right.

00:36:14.280 That mountain was a mojo.

00:36:16.160 And I'm standing here like, I still want pain.

00:36:20.760 Yeah.

00:36:21.120 I still, see, this is.

00:36:22.740 That's what I'm saying.

00:36:23.280 We should be able to take their stuff and pack it up and put it on the curb.

00:36:26.400 like we should be able to have you know what i mean like if we lived in a moral world

00:36:30.320 like a dr seuss world we'd be able to just go into the offices of the washington post i mean you and

00:36:37.740 i we're not even americans it shouldn't matter we should be able to go in there and they're just

00:36:42.680 going to see some angry guys and they're like yeah that figures and then we're just going to

00:36:46.900 start grabbing their stuff and just throwing it away while they cry and everyone's just going to

00:36:51.880 cross their arms and go yeah well it's fair it's fair what what word is there for this other than

00:36:59.380 gaslighting i mean that in the technical definition of the word like making someone feel insane for

00:37:07.000 what is obviously the truth you know making them feel like the the the data is just no you're not

00:37:14.040 you think you're looking at a window that's not a window no but it's obviously what i know it's

00:37:18.620 you're wrong you're stupid you're crazy you're unhinged and just repeating that long enough

00:37:22.660 until you believe it that's what they tried to do to you they tried to gas like i want my great

00:37:26.560 grandchildren to kill other families because those families are the descendants of people

00:37:32.540 who supported covet i want to have a thousand year feud i want the people who are responsible

00:37:37.780 for it i want their bloodlines to permanently vanish from the face of the earth i want people

00:37:43.400 to forget why they're fighting but they know they love me so much that's the dream of a blood feud

00:37:48.400 that you just think back your great grandfather it's like i don't know why i need to fucking

00:37:53.600 beat the shed this guy's cousins but that guy ruled and he said could you even believe having

00:38:00.080 that type of family i would love them that's utopia man like just i hate this guy we're

00:38:05.820 gonna fight them until one of us is dead but we don't want to die we don't really want to die

00:38:11.020 because maybe we're the only ones that can ever get along at this point the best part about that

00:38:16.120 that is that nobody talks about is eventually one side wins the best side and the other side

00:38:21.120 is just dead and they're all gone and then it's just like a footnote and then after a while it's

00:38:25.800 not even a footnote we don't even remember it this is just this is what they don't talk about

00:38:29.480 with war eventually one side uh dies more than the other and then everyone's happy every literally

00:38:36.600 everybody left alive is thrilled and happy the whole world is happy at that point right

00:38:41.960 Tell me I'm wrong.

00:38:43.520 The government doesn't want you to know this,

00:38:45.300 but in war, one side loses.

00:38:49.940 I've got another article pulled up here

00:38:52.700 from a site called cidpnsi.ca.

00:38:59.920 I'm just going to read the headlines here.

00:39:01.720 According to the Canadian International Development Platform,

00:39:05.320 the total sum of Canada's foreign aid

00:39:08.820 through Global Affairs Canada in 2021

00:39:11.220 was almost $7 billion of taxpayer dollars.

00:39:15.980 So this is just the amount of our taxpayer dollars

00:39:18.220 that are going all around the world.

00:39:20.580 So the top recipients we're looking at here,

00:39:23.080 I'm looking at a graph, a chart rather,

00:39:25.880 Africa, Africa comma regional,

00:39:29.740 just going there,

00:39:31.320 developing countries unspecified.

00:39:34.560 Over a billion dollars, wait, wait.

00:39:36.520 Yeah, over $1 billion going to unspecified countries.

00:39:40.020 Just wherever.

00:39:40.660 which is fucking wild um then asia regional then america america regional okay they're talking

00:39:48.480 south america yeah and latin america uh no wait okay mexico i think they're counting yeah they're

00:39:56.840 counting mexico as america because then there's also south america then ethiopia sub-saharan

00:40:01.160 africa and then lebanon with 115 million dollars so what i'm hoping this triggers and it probably

00:40:08.900 won't because like i said before um i think on the millennial canada panel i don't think canada

00:40:17.360 canadians the canadian voters are equipped for a real economic conversation and i mean that in

00:40:24.040 the broadest possible terms compared to america compared to the uk compared to europe they talk

00:40:30.960 about you'll hear words like reshoring you'll hear words like you know economic sovereignty i don't

00:40:36.460 think canada is even ready and we talked about this in the community recently too because i

00:40:42.640 always point to you and said judas has some firsthand knowledge that you've talked about

00:40:46.520 on the show about you know offshoring manufacturing but there's been no election issue in my memory

00:40:54.660 where any politician has said let's bring manufacturing back to canada we're not even

00:40:59.800 at that level yet no what do you think no absolutely not well it's the opportunity for

00:41:06.340 that would have been 10 15 20 years ago because people were talking about it as it was happening

00:41:11.340 you know um and now i feel like canadians on a fundamental level aren't truly political like

00:41:19.480 it's almost like everybody here who ever is either brain dead or if they're capable of speech

00:41:25.220 They're just TV-brained, and they'll just, you know, it's the tail wagging the dog.

00:41:32.520 Well, you saw that recently with, and depending who you ask,

00:41:37.060 they will say that this is an unserious avenue of inquiry, but it's the Trump tariffs.

00:41:44.100 I think we can call it just the Trump tariffs, the tariffs he's issuing on a great many countries.

00:41:48.620 We've talked about this on the show before.

00:41:50.660 And those leaders are apparently rethinking their ties to the United States.

00:41:54.820 They're turning to another partner, also targeted by Trump's tariffs, an ally on the other side of the Atlantic, the European Union.

00:42:02.740 Canada's largest daily newspaper, the Toronto Star, has posed a question that not too long ago would have seemed fanciful.

00:42:10.340 It ran with the headline, Donald Trump drives a wedge between Canada and the U.S. with a trade war.

00:42:17.460 Could we join the EU?

00:42:20.180 That's bound up with the Canadian annexation debate.

00:42:24.820 You know, when we had that panel all those weeks ago about Canadian annexation,

00:42:29.180 I was worried that it was arriving too late because we had a big annexation debate.

00:42:34.060 And then this kind of came a week after that.

00:42:36.080 I'm like, oh, my God, people have moved on.

00:42:39.300 But shockingly, there's still people freaking out about annexation.

00:42:44.820 And to the point you had just made that that seems to be the only thing that's really galvanizing people is.

00:42:51.420 And this will come as no surprise if you've been listening to Blood Sally,

00:42:54.560 if you're a blood um even our good friend fortisax talks about this uh he's on x he's on

00:43:00.520 substack talking about this but um what you're seeing is the liberals and the leftists and the

00:43:07.000 progressives assuming the mantle of patriots and pushing back against america because for many

00:43:14.460 liberals they only define themselves in opposition to america it's been this way since i was young

00:43:19.580 like we we are we are more enlightened than america we're we're just not you and that and

00:43:26.100 the moment you say anything that's against us then i'll you know we say the same thing every

00:43:31.080 single time what if we go down and burn down your white house like the british did like the british

00:43:38.340 it's all so long ago i'm like well you're not gonna do that that's not a serious thing to say

00:43:43.740 i understand that you're mad but it's like let's find another thing to say because that just sounds

00:43:49.120 fucking gay at this point but that that's the only thing i see that really brings people together

00:43:54.040 it's it's a seething homicidal genocidal hatred towards americans when they say you know we're

00:44:01.500 gonna slap some tariffs on you what do you think about all this i agree that's kind of that's kind

00:44:06.060 of what i was getting at too like it's only and i i think the reason it is like i said it's a tv

00:44:10.660 brain thing like people have been whipped up into this the people that are responding that way like

00:44:14.780 mentioned are people who their belief in our identity is like tim horton's universal health

00:44:19.740 care um snow hockey i don't know like no it's no it's that's just two separate line items there's

00:44:28.380 four items i guess but the point is is they're not they don't actually have an identity and that

00:44:32.540 cuts down the heart of it when you say well how do canadians feel about this i know how i feel about

00:44:37.900 it and it's not the same as those people but i'm an actual canadian and there aren't many of us

00:44:42.700 like we are you look even it's weird here like we talk about like we talk about um how brown the

00:44:49.740 country is getting but even if you just look at white canadians white canadians aren't aren't

00:44:54.060 canadians and it is interesting this has been litigated a lot in discussions since the annexation

00:44:59.020 topic came up that like the prairies and the western provinces aren't really that canadian

00:45:04.700 either like they're canadian like they're part of the country but they don't have the same

00:45:08.940 actual identity that we do and they're the ones as like boomer cons that are cheerleading

00:45:14.420 joining the u.s um the west coast west west coast bc is totally fucking liberal the only ones that

00:45:21.520 are left that are true like if you get the venn diagram of actual ethnic canadians who are also

00:45:27.620 right-wing nationalists or have any kind of inclination towards belonging to a nation we're

00:45:34.300 We've got to be 3% of the population if you were to take a head count.

00:45:38.440 And we're the only people that would feel that way.

00:45:40.440 Yeah.

00:45:40.800 It's not obvious to me what the material benefits of joining America would be.

00:45:48.560 There wouldn't be any.

00:45:50.320 Just to rehash this, I don't think Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

00:45:55.640 No, he's not serious.

00:45:56.640 Because if he was, and this is what we had said before, he would approach it differently.

00:46:00.580 you wouldn't say canada would be one state the 51st state that doesn't make sense he would

00:46:05.640 he's obviously trying to like to get a rise out of us right the whole point the way you would

00:46:11.160 attack it is you would go after alberta you would upset the commonwealth by going after a couple of

00:46:15.940 provinces that are already teetering and probably have like alberta would be the obvious one to go

00:46:20.900 after and if you get alberta to secede don't even bother with quebec to do alberta that will cause

00:46:26.120 enough disruption that the entire canadian project just probably falls apart because the federal

00:46:31.140 government has a very tenuous grasp on everything right now so i'm like it's not it's more of a

00:46:38.980 shakedown an economic shakedown but that's politics that's geopolitics i'm not surprised by that

00:46:44.380 it seems to me just based on what i've seen that this is the only time i've seen such a

00:46:51.600 dominant global power as america apparently desperately pleading for its neighbor to

00:46:58.460 achieve some kind of sovereignty because i'm looking at it from the american perspective

00:47:02.280 absorbing canada would be one giant headache yeah you know of course it would it would be easier

00:47:07.500 for america if it if they just said look canada put some more money in your fucking military

00:47:13.780 which you should have been doing hold up your you know nato obligations and uh figure out what's

00:47:20.660 off the chinese cesus is a joke and let's talk pipelines that's it and there's there's really no

00:47:28.980 immediate benefit to america annex in canada and to me there's no material benefit because i i'd

00:47:34.020 heard you know a good friend of ours laughing at he said well i mean if we're absorbed by america

00:47:38.980 our taxes go down i'm like well it it's not clear to me that that would happen whatever sovereignty

00:47:44.980 we could cling to and this is to your point how many canadians if we were to join america would

00:47:50.820 actually fight to maintain higher taxes probably a lot of them because so many canadians and this

00:47:57.460 will sound crazy to most but so many canadians actually think paying higher taxes and having

00:48:04.180 most of it go towards public services and migrants and our health care is part of their identity

00:48:10.820 yeah they will fight tooth and nail for high taxes so the american guys correctly say our

00:48:18.420 our the core culture of canadian culture is you know it's ordering good government like we are

00:48:25.220 predisposed to be willing to pay higher taxes in order to have a a strong strictly ordered society

00:48:31.460 where we have lots of things available to us now that obviously doesn't work when you have a corrupt

00:48:34.980 government and a lot of immigrants it doesn't work at all but we aren't we aren't all americans

00:48:40.820 left and right you know left and right within canada we are more okay with paying higher taxes

00:48:47.100 for more services and having kind of a tighter-knit community than the americans are so yeah i mean

00:48:51.700 you're not going to have that many people it's ironic that being right wingers and being like

00:48:55.160 no i want lower taxes and i want to i want a homestead and i want my automatic rifle it's like

00:48:59.920 you kind of sound like an american i i feel that way but i mean it is we can do that now too you

00:49:06.960 can do that you can have like not fully automatic weapons people don't even know but like aside from

00:49:12.020 the aside from the automatic bit which we should be able to do and we actually could do up until

00:49:15.860 the 90s but uh yeah it's yeah i don't know it's it's what is there to be gained from entertaining

00:49:24.540 this i'm like it's what do you get i i'm begging i'm just begging white people for once in your

00:49:31.500 life to ask what's in it for me yeah even if you're on the right even if you're conservative

00:49:36.160 like what do you actually get oh we can get better gun laws is that it is is that it i'm not happy

00:49:42.680 with that like it sucks tell me how it's going to stop sucking yeah i doubt it i actually don't

00:49:49.660 think america has the best track record on you know kicking migrants out yet so i guess honestly

00:49:55.480 i think they have a worse immigration problem in the states than we do like we actually have a we

00:50:00.780 have better you know founding stock here than the states of course dumb faggot ass paul fahrenheit

00:50:06.380 doesn't think so but he doesn't know anything about canada but uh no we actually have we do

00:50:11.380 have more of our founding stock here as liberal and gay as they are and the the immigrants as

00:50:16.360 much as i hate the immigrants we have i would not trade indians and chinese for niggers and spics

00:50:21.180 no way dude i will i will deal with the indians and the chinese but i cannot imagine living with

00:50:26.980 the number of niggers and spics that they have and especially in the southern states blows i don't

00:50:30.900 know how you guys fucking live with that shit so i'm sure you get used to it but uh no i mean we

00:50:35.740 can deal like i don't want i don't want american problems we have like you know what i mean like

00:50:41.060 just for what like you said oh slightly lower taxes way fewer services and better gun laws

00:50:46.520 like we can resolve that shit on our own and that's i do see it from the perspective of our

00:50:52.460 politicians which is like just don't immediately roll over i understand that like i'm looking at

00:50:56.920 CNN right now, you know, Christina Freeland,

00:51:00.840 Chrystia Freeland threatens Trump with the biggest trade blow that the United

00:51:04.320 States has ever endured.

00:51:06.420 If you force our hand, we will inflict the biggest trade blow that the United

00:51:13.740 States has ever endured.

00:51:17.580 Tough talk.

00:51:18.540 You know, I called this last year.

00:51:20.080 I'm like, Chrystia Freeland's going to run and she's going to do a pretty good

00:51:22.560 job.

00:51:23.580 This includes 100% tariffs on all Teslas, a direct attack on Elon Musk.

00:51:28.860 Yeah, I mean, it's more of a gesture.

00:51:30.720 It's more like just I'm thumbing my nose at you.

00:51:34.320 But Teslas are pretty popular here in Ontario.

00:51:37.760 Very.

00:51:38.580 Surprisingly popular.

00:51:39.820 I've seen a few Cybertrucks out here.

00:51:41.940 And a full ban on Wisconsin dairy products to stick it to Trump.

00:51:46.500 This is the same woman who froze Canadian truckers' bank accounts for protesting vaccine mandates.

00:51:51.200 is a bit editorialized in the end there but true true but also i i get why she's doing that because

00:51:56.900 like okay well you need to do something if we want to achieve some kind of national sovereignty

00:52:01.340 we can't be faggots but i think eventually importing wisconsin dairy products in the

00:52:06.100 first place though that blows i thought we had a fucking dairy cartel wasn't we have a dairy

00:52:09.800 cartel with a quota system that's literally throwing milk down the drain because there's

00:52:14.540 no buyers for it and then you are importing dairy from wisconsin no like i've been saying

00:52:19.620 this from the beginning damn the trump thing it's not about that we should be closing the borders

00:52:24.460 to almost almost all trade like we don't like we've talked about this before like we we industrially

00:52:30.640 are completely fucked we need to stop importing and exporting we need to take the hit for 15 years

00:52:35.420 and rebuild because we're we're so fucked right now i would love and this is an idea you could

00:52:43.760 workshop with a few people but the project would be selling the canadian public on 15 years of

00:52:52.640 grueling hard work maybe we call it austerity but it's in the interest of building up the

00:52:59.280 manufacturing sector which is the process that was outlined in free trade doesn't work by

00:53:05.360 ian fletcher which we covered on this very show and also frederick list the system for political

00:53:12.880 economy i believe was the name of the book that was written in the 20s or the 30s both were

00:53:17.660 basically making the same point that uh if you look at every industrialized nation uh they had

00:53:23.440 open borders but they did go through a contracted phase where they closed the borders high tariffs

00:53:29.980 and took what they learned and generated their own industries and then reopened yeah the borders

00:53:36.360 because you know the claim made in fletcher's book and this is true that global free trade

00:53:41.920 really only involves like eight to ten countries usually western countries and the rest are just

00:53:47.760 vassal states of those countries i think we i think we discussed this fairly recently too so

00:53:52.420 i apologize if i'm repeating myself but how do those countries get there um and how do you avoid

00:53:57.720 just being a vassal state feeding your resources and your labor to service that true industrialized

00:54:04.560 power it's like well you actually need to go through quite a bit of time of building that up

00:54:08.920 yourself and that's what canada i don't think there's a way around that no no no like for i'm

00:54:13.320 look i'm a free trade guy but free trade works within a closed system right like free trade is

00:54:17.660 literally the perfect system within a closed system if you have free trade between two systems

00:54:22.620 even if it is truly free trade but those systems are different like they have different laws and

00:54:26.440 different culture it's not actually free trade because what free trade would look like in that

00:54:29.940 case is first you get the free trade and then one country conquers the other so that they're both

00:54:34.000 now the same country now the free trade works but yeah if you're not going to conquer or bring the

00:54:39.120 other country in as like an exploited tributary you you need to close the border at least until

00:54:44.620 you get large enough you get that that scale factor where the your neighbor can't use trade

00:54:50.040 as a weapon against you which they're doing the u.s has been doing it for 100 years china's been

00:54:54.600 doing it to us now now india's doing everybody's fucking doing to us because we're small the only

00:54:58.340 way out of this is close the borders and another great case study of this was princes of the yen

00:55:04.440 by richard werner we covered that yeah not long ago but that was a highly detailed scenario where

00:55:11.300 the japanese government post-war post-world war ii really rebuilt the entire economy um to do

00:55:18.560 exactly what we're saying was to re-engage the global economy within a relatively short amount

00:55:24.000 of time i would say and so like it is possible but they understood this there are nations that

00:55:29.060 do understand that it's not just britain and america japan did it arguably with stronger

00:55:35.080 external pressures preventing them from doing that but also some support from the west to keep china

00:55:41.720 in check but you know go listen to that episode go listen to that clip like i think i even mentioned

00:55:45.780 this on the latest live stream what the fuck am i talking about i'm literally just like repeating

00:55:49.780 myself anyway sorry guys sorry sorry uh uh there's no news no news romano can i say oh

00:56:00.700 there's no news in the daily rape mom get in here in the daily rape and it's just blank on the inside

00:56:12.940 Seven dollars

00:56:21.760 Raymond

00:56:25.620 Why didn't you open it before you bought it

00:56:29.080 Ma

00:56:30.900 That's stealing

00:56:32.920 What a principled

00:56:37.260 Rape Romano

00:56:38.520 Can I just read you one comment

00:56:40.860 On the Christopher Friedland thing

00:56:42.060 i was looking at it on x here and this is such a pristine conservative take on christian freeland

00:56:50.800 says didn't she quit she's an ex-politician and a crackhead nazi christian freeland a crackhead

00:56:59.420 i just would love to see the world through their eyes you know because this is the type of person

00:57:05.820 where nazi really means something to them yeah you know what i mean like you hate nazis but you

00:57:11.340 have no idea what a nazi is you have no it's it's it's whatever so it means you could feel

00:57:17.700 extremely passionately about anything whenever you want that seems like a superpower

00:57:23.560 what do you think about just to touch on this before we move on the next thing what do you

00:57:29.240 think about trump's plan to what was it resettle gaza in america and wherever you seen that i heard

00:57:38.120 he's going to settle them elsewhere. I mean, beyond the obvious fact that he's like the most

00:57:44.700 Jewish president in American history. And what the fuck does Gaza have to do with anything?

00:57:50.340 Trump spoke in the Oval Office with Jordanian King Abdullah and reiterated his vision of U.S.

00:57:56.220 ownership over Gaza. We don't have to buy. There's nothing to buy. We will have Gaza. What is that?

00:58:02.720 no reason to buy. There is nothing to buy. It's Gaza. It's a war-torn area. We're going to take

00:58:09.200 it. We're going to hold it. We're going to cherish it. And Mr. President, take it under what authority?

00:58:14.200 It is sovereign territory. Under the U.S. authority. I mean, I don't care. I think the thing I don't

00:58:20.080 like about it is it's a win for Israel, and I hate Israel, but I don't really give a fuck either way.

00:58:25.360 what i don't want to see is israel taking gaza and the west bank and then like a 50 000 acres

00:58:33.260 out of lebanon and syria and becoming that much larger and stronger like you think they're buying

00:58:40.080 us out now watch when they're putting fucking organic olive farms and everything else in there

00:58:45.280 and then they actually have a little more scratch i don't like it i mean i just really i want israel

00:58:50.620 to burn so it's not good it's so great that when jews left to their own devices in their homeland

00:58:55.940 in their perfect homeland they don't make anything remember david make a lot of stuff actually they

00:59:01.420 actually do make a lot of stuff what do they make they have well look i'm not saying they make this

00:59:05.200 but they have gone out of their way to get a stranglehold on a lot of industries and like

00:59:09.660 move the hqs and research and development back there like for example almost all of the um

00:59:15.200 almost all of the extremely expensive gmo vegetable seeds the seeds themselves are grown

00:59:21.040 in specialized greenhouses in israel and then they sell the seeds like tomato seeds is a big one

00:59:26.380 these seeds will go for like thirty thousand dollars a kilo it's like cocaine for the seeds

00:59:32.180 and they sell them to france to grow in the fields that is a crazy amount of seeds and then and then

00:59:36.580 they own the ip on the gmo crop and then it's global so they get all the kind of stuff like

00:59:42.220 that but again to the extent that that is a real technology the actual lab and the ip and the seeds

00:59:48.840 themselves are physically in israel if you were to bomb israel it depends on how you feel about

00:59:53.900 gmo maybe that'd be a good thing but it's well even when they're making something it sounds like

00:59:59.640 real estate to me you know what i mean it feels like a real estate scam it's like they're renting

01:00:05.540 seeds and their license would be another one right like all of the big porn companies are all

01:00:09.680 hq there and their servers there and everything so again you would probably you'd kill a lot of

01:00:14.260 birds with one stone if you get rid of israel it's funny to think about porn having a headquarters

01:00:19.600 you know i mean like a global porn hq just a building i don't know why i expect i expect it's

01:00:25.860 just like a disease in the air that you could never get but no it's in a big square building

01:00:31.780 yeah there's people in offices i guess it's not on the blockchain it's got a physical server

01:00:36.640 somewhere yeah and it's probably not like a sleazy because we think important it's like oh

01:00:40.940 he's a sleazy director in a studio it's like no this is just the ceo well i think we've been

01:00:47.280 they say this is a whole other conversation but we used to have as um anglos a concept of what

01:00:54.780 a classy guy looked like we have now internalized jewish sleaze as being the coolest type of tech

01:01:02.760 ceo but actually it's jewish sleaze like greasy skin five rings on one hand and slick back hair

01:01:11.720 and like a and a t-shirt with a goofy face on it and it's like oh that's so idiosyncratic no

01:01:17.520 it's weirdly jewish anti-civilization and this person is an enemy of humanity which is also what

01:01:23.520 indian guys are trying to emulate of course because it's the it's the zeitgeist now they

01:01:28.160 see that and they swallowed that they don't have the nuance that we have so they see oh that's the

01:01:32.900 top of the ladder let me just slick my hair back and wear five rings bluetooth headset on all the

01:01:37.840 time a t-shirt of me my face making a silly face yeah and uh like like elon in the fucking oval

01:01:45.900 office with a badly fitted snapback and like a print t under a blazer also badly fitted like

01:01:53.860 motherfucker you're the richest man on earth and i know you're not jewish but look who taught you

01:01:58.860 to dress like that what the fuck dude if you're a billionaire how would you dress well i i would

01:02:03.780 just look i'm not a gotcha by the way that's just me interested look it's 2024 2025 i would not wear

01:02:10.220 like a fucking tuxedo you know i know what year it is but i dress on a regular day better than that

01:02:15.240 like the concept of wearing a blazer over a print tee is like one of the trashiest gayest things you

01:02:20.180 could do in current year what the you know what i mean also baseball cap you're not 12 dude

01:02:25.120 you're not like you know who wears baseball caps i'm so fucking losers i'm okay i'm not sorry i'm

01:02:33.740 not gonna i'm not gonna pan everybody who wears a baseball cap but again if you're trying to

01:02:39.220 impress somebody if you're trying to show that your authority and to show leadership you don't

01:02:44.920 wear a fucking baseball cap you get your hair done correctly and you should probably shave

01:02:51.160 like this i don't know why i have to say this you know i feel like i'm insane like i i'm already

01:02:57.700 given up on okay we're not wearing suits and ties anymore we're not wearing we're not going to wear

01:03:02.460 clean shoes fine can we just not wear baseball caps in the fucking oval office dude if i have

01:03:09.480 billion dollars do what i'm wearing i'm going i already know what what do you think i'm doing

01:03:14.920 you're gonna have like pink snake skin boots and you're gonna have a plague mask and i don't know

01:03:23.500 what are you doing you i'm actually gonna do and i've thought a lot about this today

01:03:27.860 i'm going cloaks cloaks you know what i yeah cloaks yeah right i thought a lot about cloaks

01:03:36.120 like big wool cloaks gators also i've been trying to convince bob about gators that we should we

01:03:41.360 should bring back gators and she's like this is retarded she doesn't get it women no women don't

01:03:46.760 get it they don't get things right but i saw this image of a guy um and he his wife had made him a

01:03:53.900 cloak from old wool remnants and it's big it's thick it's big and he's boasting about how he

01:03:59.860 could you can carry a concealed carrier rifle underneath it and you think back and i'm like

01:04:03.940 well this is what they fucking wore all right like in war and shit they they would have armaments

01:04:08.020 under there and armor and whatever i didn't know you're such a cloakhead man we're now we're cloak

01:04:12.440 bros now okay we're doing this it looks cool of us now and and my wife again my wife this fucking

01:04:18.320 oh i just you wanna you know you know you just something you wanna anyway she's like oh you

01:04:25.500 mean like a poncho no it opens you can do anything and then you can it's cover and you

01:04:33.280 stand there and you look like a column it's it's a cape for straight men they say rome is an eternal

01:04:40.800 thought in the mind of god and this is as close as i can think to dress for that occasion yeah

01:04:51.680 yeah i mean we got to bring back we got to bring back the real man i like the the functional that's

01:04:56.400 why the cloaks and the gators and the certain those types of jackets and yeah man we got to

01:05:01.280 to bring back the functional aesthetic we want to have clothes that you could just go out in

01:05:05.500 in the in the bush in february and not be found by the cops you remember when they found those

01:05:11.140 tunnels what happened how could we forget what happened with that that's a great what where do

01:05:18.400 we land on that what did you think was going to happen it just fucking leaves the news cycle

01:05:21.580 that's it i want to go back to that because i think for a while i noticed regular people still

01:05:29.320 bring that i'm like man remember the fucking jew and the filthy mattresses they dug out of there

01:05:33.200 and yeah every explanation was horrible yeah like every that's like oh no it's actually what it was

01:05:39.840 it was a the most benign explanation they had was that was a bunch of horny teens trying to break

01:05:45.740 into an abandoned shower and like well that that's not that's not real and that's probably a similar

01:05:52.160 excuse to what they said every other time in 109 other countries over the past thousand years

01:05:58.800 because this is exactly what they keep getting kicked out for you let them in you let them do

01:06:05.160 this shit and eventually somebody cracks a cellar door and they find the bodies of young children

01:06:10.500 and then we round them up and but i mean yeah we didn't we didn't actually get deeper into that

01:06:17.280 cellar because they went in the day at before it was even investigated with a concrete truck

01:06:21.940 and they filled it up with concrete weird huh that's a totally normal thing to do

01:06:27.140 when has that ever fucking happened

01:06:29.340 like just pour concrete in it fast

01:06:31.800 fast get it out of here

01:06:33.200 just fill it up like oh the structural engineer said

01:06:35.760 that I'd undermine the buildings we're just going to fill it up

01:06:37.740 with concrete no nobody said that

01:06:39.340 that's not how you do this

01:06:40.780 find me a structural engineer

01:06:42.340 find me the guy you talk to

01:06:44.220 he goes to a different school

01:06:45.940 he goes to a different Chabad

01:06:48.260 let me go get him

01:06:50.860 he's back there and he goes away

01:06:52.800 and comes back and he's wearing a fake mustache

01:06:54.800 hello i am the structural engineer oh so where's your friend oh he had to go to the washroom

01:07:03.160 can i talk to him oh yes uh let me just i'll go get him did he come out here did you see him yeah

01:07:09.540 but he he just left and he went to go get you oh my god we must have just like ships in the night

01:07:14.980 we must wrap each other i'm like well i need you both here at the same time let me go get him

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01:10:14.660 um so i think now is the best time to get into this book that i really wanted to cover

01:10:23.180 um and it's been on my list for quite some time and i just got around to it now and i believe

01:10:30.220 there was a reprint published

01:10:32.500 by it might have

01:10:34.440 been Antelope Hill or Imperium

01:10:36.360 Press one of those two I know for sure

01:10:38.340 but the title is

01:10:40.540 Sex and Culture

01:10:42.260 by J.D. Unwin

01:10:44.580 PhD so

01:10:46.440 you probably could call him Dr. Unwin

01:10:48.780 but I don't know

01:10:50.640 J.D. Unwin

01:10:52.100 Pretty Hardly Dick

01:10:54.140 this is an old

01:10:56.580 book this was published in the 30s I believe

01:10:58.600 the 1930s and it's really cool and i didn't know what to expect when i was reading this because i

01:11:04.420 knew the thesis um and they get to the thesis and establish it pretty fast um and it spends a lot of

01:11:11.900 time just building it up with anthropological studies it's a very serious book it's a very

01:11:16.840 scientific book but it was this uh he went out and was studying tribes from all around the world

01:11:22.940 In Africa, Papua New Guinea, Mexico, North America, so American Indian tribes, right down to, you know, the most base form of African tribes, and a pretty big variety in every region.

01:11:38.620 and it was studying primarily their religious or spiritual belief structures but juxtaposing that

01:11:46.560 against their sexual you know principles and their values regarding monogamy and trying to

01:11:56.340 map a correlation between monogamy and how far a civilization or a tribe rather advances

01:12:05.360 because you saw a correlation that the most advanced tribes

01:12:09.240 seem to have a concept of monogamy and of chastity

01:12:12.400 and of, you know, just controlling the sexuality,

01:12:17.580 especially from youth.

01:12:19.740 And, you know, the ones that did, they had temples,

01:12:22.280 they had languages, and they had,

01:12:24.600 not only did they have more coherent beliefs,

01:12:28.560 but they believed those beliefs harder, right?

01:12:32.340 So we're not talking about, I think he gets into the Aztecs,

01:12:35.360 at one point but he was that was the main thesis and he it's a wealth of data and a wealth of

01:12:41.880 examples in this and i'm not going to get into every single example but i'm going to get into

01:12:46.860 a few because there's some very interesting uh discoveries made in this but um so i i don't

01:12:54.640 assume that you've heard of this one before a lot of people haven't but what do you think about the

01:12:58.860 thesis just based on what i've said so far to me it seems it seems obvious because i am

01:13:04.820 merely a peasant so it is to me it's a is a given that only advanced civilizations would have

01:13:12.780 monogamy as a role yeah well he goes in here this is in the preface of the book he says

01:13:18.080 when i started these researches i sought to establish nothing and had no idea of what the

01:13:23.260 result would be with carefree open-mindedness i decided to test by a reference to human records

01:13:28.920 a somewhat startling conjecture that had been made by the analytical psychologists this suggestion

01:13:34.760 was that if the social regulations

01:13:36.660 forbid direct satisfaction

01:13:38.600 of the sexual impulses,

01:13:40.540 the emotional conflict is expressed in another

01:13:42.880 way, and that what we call civilization

01:13:44.940 has always been built upon the compulsory

01:13:47.140 sacrifices and the gratification

01:13:49.400 of innate desires.

01:13:51.580 And so he's actually

01:13:52.660 kind of rebelling against

01:13:54.500 psychologists and

01:13:56.180 individuals like Foucault, saying that

01:13:58.860 society is just repression.

01:14:01.080 It's repressing sexuality.

01:14:03.160 And if you repress sexuality,

01:14:04.760 it just manifests in some other way in some neurosis that's usually what they say like

01:14:09.980 you know i don't even know if they believe that anymore but for a long period of time they believe

01:14:13.760 that most neurosis was just due to repressed sexuality largely homosexuality that that was

01:14:19.620 what they believed a lot of that and he was just saying well i don't think that's the case in fact

01:14:24.100 it's sexual repression that created civilization that allowed us to even have these ideas and there

01:14:30.980 might be a direct correlation between how much you suppress you know versus you know the opposite

01:14:37.500 which is the idea that suppression destroys civilization that's what a lot of psychologists

01:14:42.000 and psychoanalytics psychoanalysis were saying so um and it's directly tied to their spirituality

01:14:51.300 or the mythology and there's some interesting details in there that i'll get to in a second but

01:14:56.420 he makes a great point early on that it's not about what they believe it's how those beliefs

01:15:05.580 are actioned in the real world meaning it's not about what they say they believe or this internal

01:15:11.360 spirituality it is the rituals and it's actually much more illuminating to study the rituals that

01:15:18.020 these these do and i would actually apply that to everything you know you can't really measure

01:15:22.940 how strongly someone's believed something but you can look at the complexity of their rituals and

01:15:29.280 the complexity of the temples and you know the totems and everything of that nature

01:15:34.440 so he says we can sum up the matter by saying that to the members of every uncivilized society

01:15:40.720 a certain power or powers manifests itself in the universe and that steps are taken to maintain

01:15:47.280 a right relation with it now the evidence is that different societies conceive these powers in

01:15:52.580 different ways and adopt different methods in their efforts to preserve the right relationship

01:15:57.080 with them the manner in which these powers are conceived and the steps which are taken to

01:16:01.940 maintain this relation constitute the cultural condition of a society the cultural condition of

01:16:06.840 any uncivilized society that is determined by the answers to two questions one what powers

01:16:13.080 manifest themselves in the universe and two what steps are taken to maintain a right relationship

01:16:18.520 with them and like that which is like let's start with those two like you believe that there's power

01:16:22.960 in the universe every single tribe no matter how uncivilized has at least a vague idea that there's

01:16:29.580 some kind of power in the universe you can conceive of that oftentimes it's very ill-defined

01:16:35.000 however it's what you do with that information that actually matters how do you have an adversarial

01:16:40.580 relationship with it and more importantly what is your relationship with the dead

01:16:43.960 do your dead ancestors

01:16:46.640 are they relevant to the equation

01:16:48.240 or is there just the power

01:16:49.480 and then the dead don't matter

01:16:50.720 because as the civilizations

01:16:52.280 get more advanced

01:16:53.160 the interplay between the dead

01:16:55.460 and the ill-defined power

01:16:58.700 of the universe

01:16:59.120 becomes more deeply connected

01:17:01.540 and we never in these studies

01:17:04.700 get to anything like Islam

01:17:06.900 or Christianity, Buddhism

01:17:09.400 any of the larger religions

01:17:10.600 these are restricted to

01:17:12.040 you know i don't want to call it pagan because even paganism would be a more developed version

01:17:17.580 of some of the stuff we're talking at the baseline of medicine men here and sort of like i think the

01:17:24.140 most most advanced you would get is like the native american tribes with like the totem poles

01:17:29.820 and stuff but that's about as high as you go so he says the main points of my criticism can be

01:17:35.920 tabulated thus one if we translate the native term spirits or spiritual beings we create the

01:17:42.280 impression that different powers are manifest in different places we often find that the natives

01:17:47.320 use the same word to denote the spirit in each place that is to say the same power is manifest

01:17:52.460 in different places so again what he's saying there is that one of the issues he takes in the

01:17:58.900 book is that a lot of researchers use westernized ideas and definitions to try and capture what these

01:18:05.360 people believe and so when we say spirits we think oh there's a bunch of different spirits but to

01:18:11.300 them it's actually way more holistic which makes sense if you try and understand how they view the

01:18:17.980 world and we discuss this with even mercy mercy eliad and the myth of the eternal return like a

01:18:24.320 true traditional tribal society it has a sort of cyclical conception conceptualization of time and

01:18:32.380 the boundaries of the world are a lot closer and the nature of the tribe itself is very holistic

01:18:38.140 it's very fluid there's not rigid hierarchies and complex social strata like you would see

01:18:44.860 elsewhere there are some obviously but not like you would see so you can understand that their

01:18:49.400 idea of the spirit wouldn't be you know angels and demons and and the and you know fair and

01:18:55.800 they wouldn't subdivide like that it's just the sort of large vague spirituality that has some

01:19:01.280 kind of influence on the world and number two here sometimes a savage will use the word savage

01:19:07.280 in here you gotta love that he says sometimes a savage will apply a singular or collective word

01:19:12.720 to the dead if we must translate the word the dead most nearly approaches the native meaning assuming

01:19:18.960 that the natives employed the term in those contexts in which we use a substantive and not

01:19:23.520 an adverb if we render the term spirits of the dead we may create the impression of an individual

01:19:28.960 survival which is not part of the native conception um it says number four often the same word is

01:19:36.880 translated as both spirit and as god if these english words are to be accepted as the alternate

01:19:42.160 renderings it follows that neither of them had the precise meaning which is desirable the technical

01:19:47.840 term should possess so again like in these writings where the original adventurers the

01:19:54.080 original translators were attempting like they just said oh they believe like they didn't even

01:19:58.080 believe in god like forget that they didn't believe in sort of the that's a very detailed

01:20:05.200 idea like the idea of like a a grand mind that you live inside of like they couldn't think that

01:20:10.900 it was just a part of nature but there was like an an animus to it um and the the idea of the

01:20:18.140 medicine men the medicine men and the um the magic men come up uh repeatedly in these as someone

01:20:25.960 i'm gonna skip ahead here but this is what i found so interesting about how he was explaining

01:20:31.000 what a medicine man is and what a sort of like tribal faith healer might be you know they would

01:20:38.900 just get into magic wars right and you still see this now there's some tribes that still do this

01:20:43.760 where in africa and elsewhere they think that oh i'm going to do this ritual so i get the result

01:20:51.140 i want and maybe that's i get a wife or husband or i get money or something and then if you don't get

01:20:57.340 you say well that's because there's an opponent who is hexing me and they were using magic to

01:21:02.740 cancel all my magic so that's how all these tribes actually thought and so sometimes if the medicine

01:21:07.340 man or the the magic man was trying to conjure rain and the rain didn't occur sometimes they

01:21:15.240 would kill him um they would actually do that in more advanced societies ironically they would be

01:21:19.980 more rational and say well you said you could you couldn't so that must mean you're a liar then they

01:21:24.800 just slaughter but for uncivilized society they would say well there must be some another magic

01:21:30.400 man who's trying to work against us so we just need we need to say the right words or use the

01:21:34.460 right magic but the way they define like you can't understand like a spell like you know magic

01:21:42.060 shooting from your fingers the way they understood magic was almost a synonym for the unusual

01:21:48.860 like what was a magic

01:21:50.860 to them like a

01:21:52.620 mystic elder was just an

01:21:54.680 unusual man

01:21:56.020 and they would say a spiritual

01:21:58.880 place is actually just an unusual place

01:22:00.860 so it's a place a weird thing happened

01:22:02.700 they say well that's a special place

01:22:04.280 there must be some spirituality to it

01:22:07.020 and here's like a weird guy

01:22:08.920 in our tribe there must be something

01:22:11.080 magical or spiritual

01:22:12.820 about him that's about how they understood it

01:22:14.880 but you see

01:22:16.340 the synergy between

01:22:18.120 magic and

01:22:20.680 just oddness

01:22:22.420 but then oddness as just

01:22:24.400 something that is remarkable, something you

01:22:26.380 can't even really define

01:22:27.900 and you see this

01:22:30.280 advance in the other societies when

01:22:32.140 oh here's an odd unusual place, let's build a

01:22:34.380 temple there, let's do a ritual

01:22:36.400 here, let's consecrate

01:22:38.600 or commemorate something that happened in this

01:22:40.480 odd place

01:22:41.140 but it usually starts off as just like a

01:22:44.320 feeling, right?

01:22:45.320 it goes when we analyze the rites and the rituals of any society then the first question we must

01:22:51.160 ask is did these people build temples if the answer is in the affirmative they were a deistic

01:22:57.280 culture when we analyze the rights of any society then the first question we must ask

01:23:01.520 a study of uncivilized peoples reveals that among those societies which did not build temples

01:23:08.120 there were some which paid some kind of post-funeral attention to their dead

01:23:12.060 such people were the mannistic cultural tradition so you actually have three different tribes here

01:23:17.320 the deistic are just you know they believe in spirit world they make temples of some complexity

01:23:23.880 then the mannistic ones they don't build temples but they kind of commemorate the dead they

01:23:28.400 understand there's a relevance there and they really believe in special places where rights

01:23:33.220 must be done but then the basis level well the base level is like a dead level of conception

01:23:38.280 that was like we were discussing the ick tribe from africa this was many episodes ago i believe

01:23:43.580 in the uh i believe the collapse of uh complex civilizations uh by richard uh tater it was like

01:23:52.560 the the most savage you know tribe you can ever imagine it was that they didn't even have familial

01:23:58.560 bonds it was just sex and then let the wild raise your kids right so they didn't believe in anything

01:24:05.540 they didn't have anything that we would call

01:24:07.280 really rituals or beliefs

01:24:09.260 it was very very basic so they would be the very bottom

01:24:11.740 but then the second

01:24:13.700 most bottom is called a zoistic

01:24:15.500 tradition where these people again they don't build temples

01:24:17.640 they don't really honor

01:24:19.600 the dead but they have

01:24:21.640 a some conceptualization of

01:24:23.620 a tribe and that

01:24:25.540 the spirit world matters

01:24:27.220 versus these other you know

01:24:29.640 fucking zombies wandering around

01:24:31.520 so that's just kind of defining

01:24:33.620 the terms of what these

01:24:35.220 categories are which is important going forward and how you can progress up these categories

01:24:40.720 he makes a point later that i hope i get to which is he says that you know we believe in progress

01:24:49.140 we believe that we always move up that ladder but it's like no you can actually step down on

01:24:55.060 that ladder you know you could actually regress or degrade you know you can because that's the

01:25:01.200 ultimate implication of the thesis which is that as you move away from monogamy as you move away

01:25:07.420 from controlling your sexuality you will degrade in every other way which seems to be the case

01:25:14.500 does it not that the moment you start attacking sexuality well then the spirituality also

01:25:19.320 suffers as well which would explain where we're at currently so some people might think that's

01:25:26.180 reach i don't i think that's i think the science backs it up and this guy looked at a lot of naked

01:25:32.420 black people to prove this and how we rank all this stuff which is like what how would you figure

01:25:39.960 out if a society is chased or prioritizes monogamy he says the sexual opportunity of uncivilized men

01:25:48.420 and women can be assessed by the answers which are received to eight these eight questions one was

01:25:53.860 there a demand for the tokens

01:25:55.800 of virginity when a girl was

01:25:57.820 married and each culture would have a different one

01:26:00.060 and he's got stories in

01:26:01.880 here man like they would actually

01:26:03.100 send the girl to live

01:26:05.900 with the mother-in-law for like six

01:26:07.920 months before the

01:26:09.800 actual marriage they would

01:26:11.760 do rituals to test to make sure

01:26:13.760 she was a virgin and it sounds

01:26:16.080 it is what it sounds like

01:26:17.760 and they would like imagine

01:26:19.720 that imagine being a woman and your in-laws

01:26:21.780 inspect your vagina

01:26:22.820 that's fucking wild but that happened a lot of places uh number two was a bethroned girl

01:26:29.600 compelled to confine her sexual qualities to her future husband some some marriages don't require

01:26:36.500 that in these societies number three was prenuptial fatherhood punished number four were the boys and

01:26:43.300 girls sexually free number five did other men share the sexual qualities of a man's wife

01:26:48.760 number six was a wife compelled to confine her sexual qualities to one man through her life

01:26:54.640 seven was a husband granted access to his wife's sisters number eight was a widow sexually free

01:27:01.360 and that's an interesting one because that didn't like there's a lot of cultures that

01:27:05.340 maintain that one up until recently he goes my submission is that on such evidence a social

01:27:12.500 scientist is compelled to induce that there is a close relation between sexual opportunity

01:27:17.220 and cultural condition among uncivilized peoples.

01:27:21.080 So that's his thesis.

01:27:22.200 And he spends the entire book backing that up.

01:27:25.460 And I can give you some examples.

01:27:27.740 You want to hear just some weird stuff about tribes?

01:27:31.680 All right, so, because as you hear this,

01:27:35.260 as you go through these accounts,

01:27:36.840 you can really envision them.

01:27:38.440 And it really conjures up visceral images in your mind.

01:27:42.160 But it says,

01:27:42.780 In the Loyalty Island,

01:27:44.200 prenuptial children were regarded as evil,

01:27:47.220 if a girl became pregnant before marriage she employed some method of abortion no social

01:27:53.100 condemnation however was incurred either by the father or by the mother of the child and

01:27:58.480 promiscuous intercourse before marriage was permitted in new britain where this is these

01:28:05.360 tribes were we find a slight but important difference a limitation being placed on the

01:28:10.880 conduct of a thorough girl betrothed which will compel an occasional continence both on her part

01:28:17.400 and on all available males natural children were killed and there was no special condemnation we

01:28:23.340 are told of any occasional act of unchastity but any betrothed as we shall see those societies

01:28:31.260 which insisted on the display of the tokens of virginity were not usually in the habit of making

01:28:36.240 inquiries into the past conduct of any woman who had not been betrothed so you can see that even

01:28:43.740 when they're trying to ensure virginity there's some gray areas right it's like okay even if

01:28:51.560 you're a virgin you could also have had other sexual intercourse before that or if you are

01:28:57.960 allowed to have sexual intercourse at least don't have children if you do have children you have to

01:29:01.760 abort them but then we're not going to make any inquiries into those abortions we just you know

01:29:06.060 what i mean so they didn't they didn't probe that deeply into the past because then maybe the entire

01:29:11.920 fucking system falls apart it goes on the loyalty islanders had no temples and no post-funeral

01:29:18.080 attention was paid by them to any dead man the power of the universe was known as haze the word

01:29:26.180 haze seems to have been used in the context in which we should use a substantive adjective or

01:29:31.160 adverb the only method which was adopted to cure a stubborn disease was the unassisted magic of

01:29:37.600 the tenehays the loyalty islanders do not distinguish between a wizard a medicine man

01:29:42.460 and a diviner faith in the power of these magicians was so implicit that in answer to

01:29:48.640 the question who made the flowers the natives replied our old men similar customs prevailed

01:29:54.540 among the tennies they had no temples nor did they consider it necessary to reference the dead

01:30:00.320 the power in the universe was called

01:30:02.080 Ungen. The source

01:30:04.400 of magic power was the possession of a magic

01:30:06.400 stone. Every department of nature

01:30:08.440 was subject to the control of

01:30:10.420 the special stone, and therefore of

01:30:12.380 a special man. Thus, one

01:30:14.460 could make yams grow, and another

01:30:16.380 could produce rain, a third could make the

01:30:18.320 sun shine, and so on. Things

01:30:20.340 were slightly different in New Britain.

01:30:22.440 There were no temples, but the people paid some

01:30:24.280 kind of post-funeral attention to their dead.

01:30:26.520 The natives considered, at least in some areas,

01:30:28.500 that they could control a ghost by magic.

01:30:32.600 If, for instance, a man had been killed

01:30:35.840 by a member of a neighboring group,

01:30:37.780 his house was kept intact,

01:30:39.260 and food was placed for his ghost,

01:30:41.380 the murderer was caught, killed, and cooked.

01:30:44.080 If the guilty individual cannot be found,

01:30:46.380 any member of his social group would do equally as well.

01:30:50.180 The people then ate the flesh.

01:30:52.580 The ghost often partook.

01:30:55.540 So that's just one incident.

01:30:57.360 Quite a bit of cannibalism going on in these tribes as well, at least mostly in America.

01:31:03.200 I'm not even sure if that happened in the Hawaiian Islands.

01:31:05.400 Now we move over to Africa.

01:31:06.940 This is interesting.

01:31:07.520 We'll now compare the sexual regulations of the Baganda, Bakatara, and Bayanoko, who lived respectively in central western and southwestern Uganda.

01:31:18.640 the banyan kol abominated prenuptial children but did not but did not object to prenuptial

01:31:28.140 sexual intercourse if a girl conceived before she was married she confided in her mother and

01:31:34.000 they endeavored to procure an abortion in a similar way if an unmarried bakatara girl

01:31:38.560 had intercourse with a man and no result followed nothing was said but if she conceived

01:31:44.040 the man was pressed into marrying her thus these three these three african societies were in three

01:31:50.080 different categories so far as sexual opportunity was concerned the baniacola insisted neither on

01:31:55.240 the tokens of virginity nor an exclusive sexual rights on marriage the paketara and the baganda

01:32:00.760 demanded tokens but whereas the katara wife like the anacolia wife was common to her husband

01:32:06.180 and his clan brothers the ugandan wife was compelled to confine herself to one man which

01:32:11.940 means that they were at a higher level of development and like you said before we talk

01:32:17.840 about marriage yes they have marriage in main countries however was the wife shared with

01:32:24.400 everyone that's more common than you think and also what she and was she shared with every man

01:32:30.620 or just the rest of the family right so for us monogamy and marriage go hand in hand but

01:32:37.400 for a lot of these tribes that was not the case so it has to be marriage plus monogamy plus

01:32:44.320 you know prenuptial chastity those three things in combination here's one about the samoans the

01:32:51.980 samoans had different customs at a samoan wedding there is a public or private demand for the tokens

01:32:57.680 of virginity the marriage of a chief's daughter took place in the village square before the

01:33:02.400 assembled people her virginity was tested publicly by the chief a presumably her own father who

01:33:08.760 inserted two fingers into her vulva the crowd eagerly awaited the trickling of the blood

01:33:13.860 which was greeted with prolonged cheers you know we often tremble at the thought of penis inspection

01:33:21.000 day but by god virginity inspection day sounds so much worse if however the girl failed to pass

01:33:29.920 the test once again administered by her own father her father and her brothers would rush

01:33:34.020 upon her with clubs and beat her to death wow my god just like ready just the way he described

01:33:41.780 just rushed it or like jesus christ okay he goes on to develop this idea here he says many students

01:33:48.020 of human affairs appear to have assumed that the evolution of human culture is an orderly progression

01:33:53.020 which proceeds in well-defined stages from the definite point and i do not exaggerate when i say

01:33:58.600 this, employed in the sense the word evolution is the bugbear of social anthropology. The idea

01:34:05.320 seems to be that the primitive or primeval man was placed at the starting point and that all

01:34:10.460 human societies have proceeded for a certain distance along the road of progress. All we can

01:34:16.620 say definitively is that human culture can be divided into certain patterns. That's it. These

01:34:21.100 patterns do not follow one another in any determined order. They merely repeat themselves

01:34:25.340 in history and an uncivilized life the change from one pattern to another is the result of a

01:34:31.000 change in ideas the world and its attributes are conceived in a different manner opinions alter

01:34:37.220 new conceptions oust old notions as a result of this change in opinion activities are revolutionized

01:34:43.460 and since the definitions of the cultural patterns are based on activities a change in the cultural

01:34:49.320 pattern must necessarily follow the new opinion is neither more true nor more false than the old

01:34:56.320 opinion and i thought that's interesting because we so often say that you know x is downstream from

01:35:03.680 culture politics is downstream from culture culture is downstream from economics or economics

01:35:09.260 is downstream from ideology you know we get these debates all the time he's trying to take a more

01:35:14.580 scientific approach that it's actually the ideas themselves that change like first principles

01:35:21.320 change then the culture changes because you actually can't change a culture it doesn't

01:35:26.180 make sense to change a culture communists tried to do that and it was a massive bloody

01:35:31.800 arguably you know catastrophic project that ended in failure but this is one thing we're getting

01:35:39.720 to do with the next book which is um a book by cochran called uh christianity classical culture

01:35:46.440 about how christianity triumphed in rome into the classical world it's like well it wasn't a

01:35:53.940 political project it wasn't even a cultural project you actually have to change the ideas

01:36:00.340 and then the beliefs actually follow from that and evolve from that it's a different way of

01:36:07.100 looking at it you know um it's kind of hard to describe but it's like one thing he gets to in

01:36:13.020 the book which really stuck with me was that he was describing a few tribes where there was

01:36:20.740 something like a feminist revolution that occurred in it before contact with westerners or the white

01:36:27.620 man because that's what people think they think that oh these tribes were just in perfect harmony

01:36:32.340 and then the white man the european or the christian showed up and started installing

01:36:38.320 all kinds of firmware into them to change everything but these things for one reason or

01:36:45.780 another seem to spontaneously occur and sometimes they completely destroy the tribe but they can

01:36:51.420 also occur in civilized societies like ours let me see if i can find it here here we go this is

01:36:58.700 actually in tahiti it says moreover over a hundred years before the white man arrived social

01:37:05.180 revolutions had occurred among the tahitians eight generations ago and i'm going to butcher this name

01:37:11.100 it says aritamai aritamai says about the middle of the 17th century the next great revolution

01:37:18.560 occurred and tradition says that it was caused by a woman the revolution which aritamai refers

01:37:25.440 arose out of a quarrel between two members of the aristocracy concerning a beautiful woman

01:37:31.060 tarura one of them behaved in a manner which is not considered to be in accordance with the

01:37:36.840 established tradition a social upheaval was the result i do not propose to tell the story

01:37:42.280 of how the rebellious noble took advantage of the traditional pride and generosity

01:37:46.380 my point was that tahitian culture like hawaiian culture had been a transactional and erratic

01:37:54.120 condition for many years before the white man arrived yeah the example he gave about hawaii

01:38:00.280 the hawaiians which around the same time they said that and again pre-contact with white man

01:38:05.960 there was the feminist revolution was something like the big events that happened was they used

01:38:11.680 to segregate their their meals by gender so the women ate over there the men ate at a different

01:38:19.540 area and at one point the queen went to dine with the men and this was seen as the final moment that

01:38:28.700 tradition had collapsed but if you look at it and the records that they kept showing this that

01:38:33.420 this was just the culmination of something like a feminist revolution that was occurring in the

01:38:40.700 tribe where women were starting to organize and advocate for themselves and just there's this

01:38:45.900 sense that the old ways were crumbling and it wasn't based on ideology you know i mean that's

01:38:52.100 a real 20th 1920th century idea and so and maybe feminism as a you know mental state as a mind

01:39:02.180 virus whatever you want to call it that that exists outside of ideology that's just something

01:39:05.700 that happens you know but revolution seems to occur within these tribes these fucking

01:39:11.040 illiterate tribes tribes where they don't politically organize is there effectively

01:39:16.660 dictatorships you know tribal dictatorships and yet the women can achieve something like progress

01:39:24.380 and equity and egalitarianism and i don't know that just that really stuck with me which means

01:39:29.960 that the forces that are causing this aren't new they're not modern and they're not even

01:39:36.300 caused by literacy they're not even caused by female fucking education or the female right to

01:39:42.260 vote that drive that revolution causes all that but anyway it's more to my mind connected to

01:39:49.980 just a a decrepit or dying culture that allows that sort of thing to happen because you know

01:39:58.100 like a coup d'etat by the time the tanks roll up to the palace the coup is already that's the last

01:40:04.880 step the coup has already occurred the coup was like the eight to twelve months before that

01:40:09.400 where all the relationships were brokered and all the secret conversations were had and then

01:40:15.120 distrust in the order was sown and then in one great movement it collapses one final stroke the

01:40:24.640 the woman is seated with the man and nobody does anything anyway it might sound like i'm making a

01:40:30.880 lot out of that but that that really stuck with me um and it shows like did but did that cause them

01:40:37.480 to progress past that not really sometimes these things just fucking happen um i'm just going to

01:40:43.640 jump to the american indians here he says because i know we gotta get going so he says in our study

01:40:48.380 of the american indians we must rely either on the writings of the early travelers or on the

01:40:53.500 modern field work of the reservationist because once again remember these people did not leave

01:40:59.220 written records they do not have a language a written language they tell us what the natives

01:41:05.780 thought but they seldom mention what the natives did we can extract from their writings very few

01:41:10.100 descriptions of native rights but they are always ready to entertain us with a discourse on the

01:41:14.260 great spirit american indian ethnography indeed has suffered more than is usual from an attempt

01:41:20.020 to render native words in a modern language such words as medicine mystery existence spirits deities

01:41:27.060 totem guardian spirit and supernatural meeting jostle against one another on the anthropological

01:41:33.320 page in a bewildering variety that needs a special effort of the imagination to remember

01:41:38.740 that all these terms and many others are often english equivalents of the same native work so

01:41:44.600 again when you hear about even now this is what's so interesting about aboriginals and natives is

01:41:51.100 that they in my opinion they inhabit a western context they inhabit a western interpretation

01:41:58.860 of themselves so when they talk about the great spirit they will you know most of these aboriginals

01:42:06.560 or abos or indians whatever they want to call themselves everyone knows what i mean

01:42:10.940 they speak of their own great spirit within a white like a white western understanding of it

01:42:18.380 I don't think they really have the same conceptualization of the great spirit that their ancestors did, which is a wild way of thinking about it.

01:42:26.600 They don't even have ownership of their beliefs and arguably their rights are just cartoon versions of their rights.

01:42:34.440 They will say that it's just one unbroken chain.

01:42:37.160 I don't think so.

01:42:38.560 Here's an interesting one.

01:42:39.380 The Iroquois.

01:42:40.140 the Iroquois are a famous nation and so much attention has been paid to their history and to

01:42:45.560 their warlike achievements that their culture has been somewhat neglected moreover they're an

01:42:50.800 example of what our social organization which is often loosely called a matriarchy and a large

01:42:56.760 number of writers have concentrated on this aspect of Iroquoian life it was known to Europeans in the

01:43:02.040 early 16th century missionaries were working among the natives in the early 17th century

01:43:07.040 thus the pagan customs may have been considerably modified before any record was made

01:43:11.740 the females indeed seem to have been in complete charge of matrimonial arrangements which is you

01:43:18.300 don't really hear about that but there's quite a few tribes in north america where like the women

01:43:22.540 were basically in charge of everything it was there were matriarchies all throughout the world

01:43:27.360 he goes undoubtedly the hopi h-o-p-i the hopi are the most fascinating of all american indian tribes

01:43:34.760 they were an agricultural people and are said to have carried out a great number of ceremonies in

01:43:39.940 connection with the powers which were manifest in the sun rain and other natural phenomenon

01:43:44.660 from harvesting to planting and from planting to harvest their calendar was crowded with fixtures

01:43:50.320 almost every month possessed a ceremony in which the supernatural or super normal forces

01:43:56.900 were personified and dramatized i didn't know this i didn't know we had indians that did that

01:44:03.080 such words as gods supernatural meetings divinized ancestors fire worship and other

01:44:09.420 compounds of worship are used freely but rarely are we told the native words or words word or

01:44:15.320 words which they represent when we examine the burial rites we do find that the hop i paid no

01:44:21.260 attention to the ghost of a dead man after he was buried there was no attendance and no cult

01:44:27.140 the dying were deserted by their friends and when they were dead they were buried in graveyards

01:44:32.120 the power of the universe

01:44:34.360 was associated with mystery

01:44:36.400 a girl chose

01:44:38.460 her own husband and then informed her parents

01:44:40.360 if she was dissatisfied with them

01:44:42.140 she told him to go away

01:44:43.780 if he were miserable at any time he packed up with

01:44:46.360 his goods and just left

01:44:47.560 there were no superstitions in regard

01:44:50.300 to the menses

01:44:52.160 as soon as a girl reached puberty

01:44:54.400 she was sent away to the house of her

01:44:56.380 paternal aunt where she ground corn

01:44:58.400 for three days behind a curtain

01:44:59.900 I think we could use a bit of that

01:45:01.920 if I'm being honest

01:45:02.860 it says

01:45:06.000 indications are not lacking

01:45:08.000 that when the first

01:45:09.940 white men came into contact with

01:45:11.940 them some of our ten

01:45:13.720 deistic societies were already relaxing

01:45:16.180 and that some had relaxed

01:45:17.760 the severity of their sexual regulations

01:45:19.760 recently in most sections of

01:45:21.940 the white man society there's been

01:45:23.680 an extension both of prenuptial

01:45:26.000 and postnuptial sexual opportunity

01:45:27.900 The same phenomenon can be observed among some uncivilized peoples, and basing my conclusions on the same kind of evidence, I consider that the finest period of Mayan history was already passed when the white men arrived in Central America, for it seems that among the Mayans, also the demand for prenuptial chastity had been relaxed.

01:45:47.820 so there like we're completely removing prenuptial chastity from any christianization

01:45:56.540 or any contact with outsiders and even after like you said the mayans encountered white men their

01:46:03.580 glory days were still on the horizon they didn't cause a collapse so it's something else and i

01:46:10.600 think that i keep coming back to like what causes it almost just seems like a natural like an

01:46:17.420 entropic phenomenon in that sense but it always takes the form of relaxed sexual regulation

01:46:25.100 usually uh performed by the woman usually encouraged by the females in that society

01:46:32.600 it goes into the science of it here like okay if we agree that controlling sexuality has a

01:46:40.140 correlation to how developed a society is by developed we mean it has an understanding of

01:46:46.160 itself it has a more comprehensive understanding of the universe we kind of know what we mean but

01:46:52.220 what does that mean in a tribal context um he says when we apply these principles to the cultural

01:46:57.800 data two conclusions follow at once the first is that the full effect of an extension or limitation

01:47:03.460 on sexual opportunity whether in the whole society or one strata of society it's not revealed for at

01:47:10.640 least three generations or roughly a century after its adoption the second is that in the production

01:47:16.000 of social energy the sexual opportunity of the females is a more important factor than that of

01:47:22.100 the males needless to say in the course of these hundred years much seed falls by the wayside

01:47:27.200 not all but a few but only a few citizens accept and pass on the new tradition thus when a cultural

01:47:33.740 change occurs haphazardly either upward or downward there remain some representatives of the higher or

01:47:39.660 lower culture these increase or decreasing the number according to the behaviors of the subsequent

01:47:43.860 generations that's a very interesting thing he just said which is that for a cultural shift to

01:47:50.280 occur it takes around three generations or 100 years because during that period there's going

01:47:56.120 to be advocates from whatever the old culture is either high or low they'll be agitating against

01:48:02.560 change but that's why you won't see the ramifications of any of these you know and we're

01:48:10.420 going through that right now like anything we're talking about right now like oh the west has

01:48:14.820 fallen society's fallen it's like we might have another 50 years before that really becomes clear

01:48:20.400 but at that point it's set after three generations the norm is solidified he goes on to sort of

01:48:28.200 define what he means by these energized societies when we control sexuality it frees up the energies

01:48:35.260 for other things he says among the accomplishments of an extremely energized energetic society

01:48:40.800 are territorial expansion conquest colonization and the foundation of a widely flung commerce

01:48:47.400 all these things and their like are manifestations of what i call expansive social energy a society

01:48:53.940 which displays uh productive social energy develops the resources of its habitat and by increasing

01:48:59.940 its knowledge of material universe bends nature to its will you know what's interesting when he

01:49:05.020 says that people might recall we did a book called we went back to the stone age we were looking at

01:49:11.780 you know prehistoric you know not crow magnum but you know basically cavemen right and there's this

01:49:19.060 idea of prehistoric man as being just a grug brained bonk a woman on a head and raper and

01:49:28.840 walking around in tattered clothes basically an ape but they have found evidence of prehistoric

01:49:35.060 mines they have found evidence of prehistoric societies um and prehistoric you know model

01:49:42.400 massive you know monoliths right which says that you know you would think of these ancestors as

01:49:49.480 being basically retarded or zombies but it's like no well they actually they knew how to mine for

01:49:54.700 different types of rock which with which they could fashion spears which is a fucking wild

01:50:00.180 thing to think in like 5000 BC or whatever the age is right where like you knew enough to dig

01:50:06.600 at a certain depth and craft steps and ways to get into the fucking earth to retrieve something

01:50:11.940 to fashion a tool so the idea was that you know if you can control your sexual energies or you

01:50:20.060 have some kind of society that emerges from a first principle that frees up your abilities to

01:50:26.620 actually do those things. Because when the Teutonic tribes overran the Western Roman Empire in the

01:50:33.480 5th century, they manifested an expansive social energy. A similar energy was exhibited by the

01:50:39.180 Babylonians 4,000 years ago, by the Romans when they conquered Carthage, by the Arabs when they

01:50:45.200 burst over Egypt in the 7th century, by the English when they colonized in all parts of the world.

01:50:50.060 Now, in human records, there's no trace of any display of productive energy, which has not been preceded by a display of expansive energy.

01:50:59.180 Well, that's interesting.

01:51:00.200 So production and expansion seem to go hand in hand historically.

01:51:05.680 Although two kinds of energy must be carefully distinguished, in the past they have been, as it were, united in the sense that one has developed out of the other.

01:51:14.040 A society which displays productive energy possesses a rationalistic culture.

01:51:19.000 Expansive energy is typically more typical of deistic societies

01:51:23.820 or the deistic stratum of a rationalistic society.

01:51:28.540 And then connected this to our previous point about the generational transfer,

01:51:31.900 it says the nature of the inherited tradition in turn depends on the amount of energy

01:51:36.740 which the previous generation displayed,

01:51:39.580 that generation inheriting a tradition dependent on the amount of energy

01:51:43.000 the preceding generation displayed, and so on.

01:51:45.620 Now, in each case, the amount of this energy depended on the intensity of the compulsory continents with the sexual regulations imposed.

01:51:54.100 Thus, the cultural condition of any society, any geographical environment is conditioned by its past and present methods of regulating relationships between the sexes.

01:52:04.080 So you have to make these norms, you know, maintain over three generations.

01:52:10.800 And the only way to maintain that sort of energy is to control the relationship between the sexes.

01:52:17.840 And that doesn't even necessarily mean that the woman must be subservient to the man legalistically.

01:52:25.220 But as he established earlier in the book, you know, women actually have more power in this relationship, which is why it must be controlled naturally.

01:52:34.080 because they can bear a child because you know bearing a child out of wedlock is bad you know

01:52:41.120 it's always been bad fucking prehistoric africans know it's bad to the point where they they were

01:52:48.440 tolerant of abortions and abortions were also bad but it's way better than having just a child

01:52:53.900 at a wedlock because they understood that you need a mother and a father to raise this child

01:52:57.500 um so just moving on and he goes on it further and says any society in which complete prenuptial

01:53:06.420 sexual freedom has been permitted for at least three generations will inevitably be zoistic

01:53:13.680 uh the zoistic cultural condition it will also be at a dead level of conception that previously

01:53:20.100 had been at a higher cultural condition so that's like if by three generations you just

01:53:26.320 allow rampant sexual freedom you basically go back to like bantu tribesmen and you will not only

01:53:32.640 lack any coherent spirituality you'll stop giving a shit about the dead you'll stop giving a shit

01:53:38.520 about history you everything you'll just be a wandering animal basically um he's got an

01:53:45.960 interesting point here it says when absolute monogamy is the rule absolute monogamy marriage

01:53:52.360 is as a means whereby a man secures domestic labor and heirs of his blood a wife and her

01:53:58.660 children are under his dominion and domination of the husband in the eyes of the law he alone

01:54:05.080 is an entity in its full rigor in this model this institution has never been tolerated for

01:54:13.620 very long indeed all those human societies which have adopted it were constantly revising their

01:54:19.720 methods of regulating the relation between the sexes sometimes as in babylon the changes were

01:54:25.680 made by a series of separate enactments sometimes as in rome by a somewhat violent change in the

01:54:32.060 legal premises but in every case they took the same course in every case too the qualification

01:54:37.520 of the material and parental authorities was accompanied by the reduction of marriage to a

01:54:42.940 temporary union made and broken by mutual consent furthermore in most cases the demand for

01:54:50.020 prenuptial chastity was relaxed so really what he's saying there is that the most extreme

01:54:55.940 patriarchal form of marriage has only ever really existed for brief flashes of time every other time

01:55:02.720 it's it's more it's more nuanced than you would think which is which makes a bit more sense right

01:55:10.200 which is why women are always fighting against it but if you which is you know even within

01:55:16.520 catholicism we don't like divorce but you know we do have what was it annulment you know it's

01:55:24.300 like you can't get divorced but we can make it so the marriage never happened because there are

01:55:27.940 instances where you know a woman needs to get out of the marriage maybe the guy just is a fucking

01:55:33.100 sadist you know maybe the guy just loses his mind one day and there's extenuating circumstances

01:55:38.000 they've always the point being that every religious built in something like that on on the margins even

01:55:45.980 but it's never been totally authoritarian driven because the relationship between men and women

01:55:53.720 is messy it always has been messy you need rules but i don't know like like i said they will test

01:56:01.780 for chastity they'll test to make sure you're a virgin but if you if you had many lovers before

01:56:08.080 then but still remain a virgin we're just not going to talk about it or if we don't allow

01:56:12.640 virginity we're not going to talk about the abortions right because we we need to make

01:56:16.820 concessions to handle the sloppy behavior of teenagers see what i'm saying and what do you

01:56:25.520 think about that yeah yeah it makes sense i mean i i wish we could use an understanding of this to

01:56:33.800 create a culture where the rigid monogamy could last for longer because it seems like

01:56:39.900 in all of the previous cases part of the reason that it's fallen apart is because the rationale

01:56:45.000 was just because i said so which is never it's not going to fly and what's interesting is people

01:56:50.740 people in our society one thing we often remark on uh in various meme channels that we consult

01:56:58.900 is that people are finding monogamy but much later like it's way more common for people to

01:57:04.520 actually find their true love or settle down but in their 30s and we'll say well that's too late

01:57:09.400 sure because we lack the social pressures to encourage people to do that younger it is better

01:57:15.000 to get married younger have children younger but there is like a drive for monogamy but

01:57:23.260 absent those social pressures it seems that we just kind of find it later that that's like the

01:57:28.760 negotiation we you know absent any rules found ourselves in we just need to get that done

01:57:37.180 earlier that will require social pressure that will like you need social pressure to keep people

01:57:42.620 together but it seems that we get there eventually it's just we get there too late you know what i

01:57:47.980 mean so we need to like encourage it to be earlier but it's not like it's gone yet yet but let's give

01:57:55.080 it another couple generations maybe close but not yet um anyway i know we gotta go no that was the

01:58:00.200 main thesis established there and he paints a very cohesive and a very persuasive argument that you

01:58:08.940 know it's something everyone intuits like you said it seems obvious when you hear it but there's so

01:58:14.420 many examples in the book where he goes into like if you just like hearing about tribes and the

01:58:18.880 shit that they did um and the different spirits that they believed in the main problem is a lot

01:58:24.980 of them are the same that's what you learn is that the reason he categorized the zoistic nanistic

01:58:31.540 and deistic societies is because once you break it down they all fall into these buckets they just

01:58:36.600 of different names for the spirit but it's all guys with magic stones engaged in magic wars

01:58:44.080 but really the way i said you know i was saying earlier what fascinated me was these emergent

01:58:52.260 sexual revolutions because i think that's what i'll call them emergent sexual revolutions

01:58:58.140 that are non-ideological and non-religious anyway and we'll leave it at that um thank you

01:59:05.760 any closing thoughts on that by the way no no that's a good episode all right so i'll let you

01:59:10.540 go it's late uh thank you so much i'll talk to you later no worries man take care

01:59:15.000 in media res

01:59:34.300 and of course you decide that you don't want to speak anymore oh i was just letting you hit record

01:59:39.860 because i got made fun of for starting a conversation hitting record midway through

01:59:45.060 geo pinochet did that i was like oh like joe rogan i'm like

01:59:48.580 i'm like you're not the one who bullies me i'm the one that bullies you actually actually

01:59:54.360 uh well this is cannon fodder episode 60 live from the south of france and really the global

02:00:02.940 south in general uh with me is my neighbor to the north mr dimes how are you sir and i'm doing

02:00:10.920 great i'm excited to be here i love this show i love this show too and unfortunately i think this

02:00:16.300 will probably be the swan song of the show if uh if i even try to hit upload on youtube after we're

02:00:21.720 done dude if i had a dime for every time one of my friends did an episode with me saying this one's

02:00:29.820 not going up on youtube you know what they'd call me uh nickels i was running that in my head but i

02:00:38.020 wonder what he's gonna say if he says nickels i'm gone yeah well and there you go i'm i'm up to date

02:00:44.440 on the lore and and the the uh the blood satellite chat uh even though like i'll i'll put down the

02:00:52.200 telegram chat for like five seconds and then there'll be like two thousand messages and i'm

02:00:56.600 like all right there's there's no catching up with this it's you can't upscroll there's been

02:01:01.700 so many times i just see the newest one and jump like near the end of a contentious debate

02:01:06.720 and just like make giving an opinion not knowing what's been addressed yeah well i remember when i

02:01:13.800 first joined i was somebody was talking about vacuums and i stuck my stupid head in talking

02:01:18.660 about how i like my dyson vacuum and that one and that one guy was like i think he wanted to ban me

02:01:24.920 you wanted to murder me come to my house burn it down and then vacuum my rug yeah i've had to

02:01:30.520 reverse a lot of bands in that chat that's how we keep the human capital elite in there but it's one

02:01:36.760 of the most active communities i think i've ever seen and it's uh due to a lot of very well curated

02:01:43.320 personalities anyway uh elite human capital we're gonna talk about the camp of the saints

02:01:51.000 by Jean Raspiel.

02:01:54.340 Only real cannon fodders will appreciate the irony

02:01:58.560 and get the reference of that quote right there.

02:02:01.640 This is what happens when elite human capital wins.

02:02:05.620 Oh, God, no.

02:02:08.080 So if you wanted to give some background on the book,

02:02:10.540 Camp of the Saints,

02:02:11.180 a lot of people might be familiar with this title,

02:02:13.760 and this is one of the most requested books

02:02:16.780 I've gotten from friends of the show, Blood Satellite.

02:02:20.780 And I never got around to it.

02:02:22.640 I've been getting this for months and months, maybe even years.

02:02:25.980 And I wanted to, and it just kept getting pushed back further and further.

02:02:29.400 And then I finally got around to it because I had a good friend that I could talk about it with.

02:02:34.620 Because I think you need to discuss this book between two or more people who have read it.

02:02:40.400 Its reputation precedes it.

02:02:42.560 Maybe not as much as some of the other books in this category.

02:02:48.320 I guess we would call it race war fiction, but some people will rank it up with the Turner Diaries or something like that.

02:02:57.280 But I would say this stands apart from all that.

02:03:00.700 I think it has a bit more to offer the reader.

02:03:03.400 I think it's written a bit better.

02:03:05.760 It's so well written.

02:03:07.760 And we're reading in translation, unless you're in Canada, you might read French.

02:03:13.280 No, we don't read regular French.

02:03:15.100 We read Quebec French up here.

02:03:16.480 so it's probably closer to italian but yeah i'm reading the translation um we might be working

02:03:22.880 from different copies i don't know how many different translations there are but uh relatively

02:03:27.920 relatively short book i'd say you know maybe for fiction it's about 300 pages maybe yeah um

02:03:35.360 i went into this sort of blind not knowing what to expect i knew what people had discussed before

02:03:40.160 like oh it's about mass migration it's about mass migration into france and this was written in the

02:03:45.520 70s and i think the fact that's written in the 70s has to sit high on people's minds when it's

02:03:51.840 people will say predicted the future um but the context in which it was written you know the

02:03:58.320 soviet union still exists so that factors in pretty heavily to the story uh the vietnam war

02:04:04.320 i believe is still ongoing i would need to because when was it written like 1972 72 it was written

02:04:12.160 73 it was released so yeah i mean it probably probably you know vietnam was pretty much over

02:04:18.320 by then i think the paris peace conference was 73. yeah because it mentions uh hanoi and it

02:04:25.840 mentions like there's references to vietnam and the sort of third worldist regime but um it's

02:04:32.240 difficult for me to figure where to jump in like do we want to just get to like the meat of it

02:04:37.920 let me just start by asking this did you like it and yeah i i thought that i thought this was

02:04:44.500 going to be like kind of a slog you know it's like oh it's the meme book you know people are

02:04:48.540 gonna like i'm doing this for you i'm doing this for the audience but i actually it was a good

02:04:53.440 read i'm gonna put it on my good reads yeah and i think it's the reputation preceding it

02:05:01.660 Does it a disservice because it's, you know, knowing the political waters that we swim in, maybe we're just used to a lot of this language and these scenarios, but it wasn't as vulgar as I was expecting.

02:05:14.740 And I'm just going to give sort of the bullet points of my takeaways.

02:05:20.100 If you'd asked me when I was halfway through reading it, if I liked it, I would have said, yes, this is an amazing book and it haunts you.

02:05:29.760 it's chilling and it's not necessarily because it's gory or in particularly graphic there's

02:05:35.280 some gross scenes in it and we'll get into that in a second but um but by the end of it because

02:05:40.980 i'd finished it this past weekend i had softened a bit on it you know i didn't love it as much i

02:05:48.500 like the first half more than the back half and we can get it i will say it had a good ending

02:05:54.700 i i was expect i was expecting something else not a twist necessarily but something

02:06:01.820 more in the first half of the book it surprises you with how layered it is so i'll tell you one

02:06:08.960 thing i wasn't expecting and you let me know what you think about this i wasn't expecting

02:06:12.840 the amount of spirituality that was woven throughout this yes and mentions of god yeah

02:06:20.460 Yes, it mentions of God, and not in a ham-fisted way either, in a very, not nuanced, but in a very mature way, it's clear that Respiel, Respiel, Respiel, I think it is, he has at least a decent understanding of scripture and of God.

02:06:46.220 you know and it's funny because his it's usually coming from the mouths of his atheist characters

02:06:52.220 yes that's a great point i'd had one of the one of our listeners was a big fan of the book

02:06:58.780 said that it was pretty harsh on christians and it did not interpret it that way catholics

02:07:04.600 specifically what could even yeah catholics i would say yes you know the jesuits are up to

02:07:10.400 their tricks but if anything more of a sort of liberal humanism that has infected these religions

02:07:16.800 because god is present in this in fact much of what occurs in the book could be it's almost

02:07:23.840 explicitly described as something like solemn providence that god is a yes sir oh sorry no i

02:07:30.240 was gonna say you could say that it's like um oh it's like it's like one of the plagues that uh

02:07:37.920 that not noah that moses uh tells the pharaoh about in order to great point the israelites

02:07:47.520 this is this is clearly a punishment from god yeah and um so the setup of the story and we

02:07:54.720 don't need to go into too too much detail going beat by beat but i will say what it's about it's

02:08:00.160 a horde one million

02:08:02.260 strong of Indians

02:08:04.020 only a million?

02:08:05.720 well it's less than a million by the time the boats

02:08:08.320 get there because it's something like

02:08:09.920 800,000

02:08:11.960 by the time the boats land

02:08:14.040 from India to France

02:08:15.780 and it's India specifically

02:08:17.780 meaning that I noticed that the book

02:08:19.960 there's a third

02:08:22.020 worldist global

02:08:23.900 south sentiment

02:08:26.060 in this but this horde is from India

02:08:28.060 and it doesn't really group the muslims or the arabs or the persians in with that and they have

02:08:33.500 their own they have their own boats right but by the by the end of it it's become a global movement

02:08:41.260 of even the chinese doing the same sort of mass migration the chinese peasants these are the

02:08:46.380 underclasses these are the scum of the earth from china going into the soviet union uh then africa

02:08:52.700 joins in, then it doesn't mention Mexico, I don't think, but the Philippines, it starts

02:08:58.020 echoing throughout the world. And there's sort of global revolution of the third world

02:09:02.540 moving into the first world and taking over. But this, the one we're describing, it's from

02:09:08.340 India, from the Ganges, and they're described as Indians. And the way they're described

02:09:12.760 in this is horrific.

02:09:15.640 Really, they almost don't seem human.

02:09:19.600 well because there is mention in the book of indians and people from that part of the world

02:09:26.940 who are defectors from india who try and side with the french the the uncle toms of

02:09:33.700 and they hate the indians the most and you've seen people like that um and they're just

02:09:39.120 specifically described in the book as like the worst of india the gutter of india they're the

02:09:44.240 ones who want out the most and they it's interesting if i had to describe the horde i wouldn't even say

02:09:51.880 it's the primary antagonist of the book because people will think oh this is like man versus

02:09:57.500 zombies the zombies of the antagonist it's very clear early on that they're just a phenomenon

02:10:03.180 being described and the real villains are the race traitors secular humanists the the the communists

02:10:12.060 the

02:10:12.780 really just the haters of anything

02:10:16.060 beautiful. You see in the very

02:10:18.200 beginning there's the

02:10:19.200 French professor who

02:10:21.980 is just kind of having his

02:10:24.100 nice, his last little hurrah.

02:10:26.360 You know, he's got his dinner out,

02:10:28.140 he's having a drink, and he decides

02:10:30.300 he's going to murder this punk because

02:10:32.260 Yeah, he's sitting in a village

02:10:34.540 at a, it paints a very

02:10:36.200 vivid picture, and we just say that right now,

02:10:38.120 that the prose in this

02:10:39.880 is wonderful.

02:10:41.580 That it really, it spends, it meditates on where it should, especially in the first half of the book. I really love the first half of the book for this. Describing, you know, picturesque, his sort of house, a homestead that's been in his family since the 1500s. He lives there alone. And then the entire village is abandoned.

02:10:59.980 And he's sort of like the like the Roman centurion of Legionnaire at the end of Spangler's.

02:11:09.720 Yeah. Sort of just stand in guard because at this point, everyone has sort of resigned themselves to failure.

02:11:16.220 And this is sort of his last stand as a Western man. And so continue.

02:11:20.300 you know that that that scene where he's just going through the house and he's talking about

02:11:26.600 uh you know the invention of the fork whereas like the fork was invented how many years ago

02:11:33.000 and these people still eat with their hands or uh you know he's talking about the the linens that

02:11:39.200 have been in his family for so long and have been packed away and they smell like lavender that

02:11:44.480 either his mother or his grandmother put in there and there's this there's this kid he's like this

02:11:50.300 anarchist who is going to lead the horde right to his doorstep so that he can kind of watch it all

02:11:58.020 burn down and the professor just shoots him it's awesome yeah and for people who've seen the meme

02:12:04.180 there's a quote that circulates from this book where uh it doesn't attribute it to anyone but

02:12:09.560 it's like they'll be tired they'll hungry they'll make a fire of your nice wooden door it's said by

02:12:13.980 this kid who's again in this abandoned village saying that hey old man you know i'm gonna and

02:12:19.940 And just the way he describes it, there's these long, I would call them monologues, where you really understand the psychology of these villains, these antagonists, various anarchists.

02:12:32.940 Like you said, there's journalists in here, politicians, cardinals and clergymen, people who are on the side of this third worldist revolution.

02:12:42.500 And in fact, they are the main instigators of it.

02:12:45.600 It would not happen if not for them.

02:12:47.980 And they're friends of this revolution on both sides. So we're in France, but there's people there. And I'd made a comment on the driving force of these antagonists before. And I think it's extremely important that this book was set in France and written by a Frenchman.

02:13:07.480 because one thing I had said and an idea I'm playing around with

02:13:10.520 is that revolutions are never truly over.

02:13:13.720 No revolution ever recedes from the current zeitgeist.

02:13:19.860 And France in particular,

02:13:21.660 I don't think France has ever moved on past the French Revolution.

02:13:25.560 If you go to Paris, if you go to France,

02:13:27.560 you will see the echoes of that still in their architecture.

02:13:31.260 And I believe in their character,

02:13:32.440 even though it's been over for how long.

02:13:35.240 So I think what's going on in this book, it's it's an echo of the French Revolution. You have these revolutionaries, you have the Jacobins, you have these sort of petite Robespierre's who are who are not even necessarily on the side of the third world, but they are against the bourgeoisie.

02:13:56.640 They're just against France.

02:13:58.900 When you hear them talk, they're speaking of this,

02:14:02.220 they think they're just an unwashed, disgusting whore too,

02:14:05.380 but they're speaking with glee at what they will do

02:14:08.560 to your nice wooden doors, to your linens,

02:14:10.860 to this country that they,

02:14:12.520 and each one of them has a reason.

02:14:14.060 Maybe they feel betrayed by it.

02:14:15.340 Maybe they feel that they don't belong in this country.

02:14:18.900 So it's like, this is their revenge.

02:14:20.660 And the third world horde is just a cudgel they're using.

02:14:24.920 and then as the story goes on each one of these characters and christ i think there's like a

02:14:30.660 dozen of them throughout the book they each meet their fate and a recurring theme in this book i'm

02:14:36.160 kind of jumping ahead here but i think it's good to get it out of the way now a recurring theme of

02:14:40.160 the book is how they realize too late what they have done and they all they all pretty much die

02:14:46.300 miserable and sad and regretting it right there's the there's oh there's this the one scene uh he's

02:14:53.740 the white savior guy who is like whipping up the crowds to get onto the boats and he gets crushed

02:15:00.320 by them yeah that's an amazing scene oh no no sorry there's the guy that gets crushed to that

02:15:06.140 this guy i'm thinking of gets knocked off the gang planks and actually he's the atheist one like the

02:15:11.940 the really atheist one who gets knocked off the gang planks and realizes that he messed up so he

02:15:18.660 intentionally drown he doesn't even try to save his own life yeah and and this is the water of

02:15:24.120 the ganges river and so it's it's described as being putrid and black and it's full of corpses

02:15:29.920 and then there's indians being knocked off the gangplank but because they're just they have no

02:15:35.760 respect for life and that they don't care and there's scenes in the book of them just kind of

02:15:39.960 surrendering to death like who gives a shit so it's just this like this poisonous swamp and then

02:15:46.280 And you really feel like he's overcome by something worse than death.

02:15:50.700 The other one you're describing, there's this one striking scene.

02:15:53.920 He's a priest.

02:15:54.760 He's either a priest or a bishop.

02:15:56.700 He's a bishop.

02:15:57.880 There's the one guy who fires the gun.

02:16:01.700 Right.

02:16:01.940 And he's described like he was on the side of this thing.

02:16:07.680 Then he turns against it right at the end.

02:16:09.720 He was an ambassador or a consul of some kind.

02:16:12.960 Yes.

02:16:13.460 He was the Belgian consul.

02:16:15.340 That's right.

02:16:15.720 and he had the he had the the army of Sikhs that's right the Sikhs the Sikhs do not come out

02:16:22.920 well in this either yeah and so he has one last stand he fires one shot that he and he hits one

02:16:28.880 of them but then he's just stomped and beaten to death and on the boat this wretched old massive

02:16:35.800 one of many boats but like the biggest one I believe it's like the Bombay Star or something

02:16:40.640 like that um there's a few of these i'm just going to keep calling them race traitors because

02:16:46.100 that's how they're describing the book there's a few sympathizers on this boat too and they're

02:16:50.620 watching the dock as the boat goes away and this man has been reduced to like a puddle a puddle of

02:16:56.480 mush and they describe a bunch of dogs just licking him up and again it's not terribly gory

02:17:01.940 but there's this little line there that really stuck with me and it sets the tone for the rest

02:17:08.200 the book where he says he thinks he sees the dog writing something in latin on the ground in the

02:17:14.660 blood and he doesn't know exactly what it says but that establishes again a theme later on of

02:17:20.380 god is involved in this god there's these little miraculous events and truly the fact that this

02:17:27.300 travel takes place at all is miraculous like there's a thousand ways these ships should have

02:17:33.620 sank and then they just don't it's like it's it's impossible that they get to their destination but

02:17:38.160 that is in fact what happens there's there's uh of course the the turd eater who is the lowest of

02:17:45.040 the low and his his son which is described as a monster yeah suddenly he suddenly can is just like

02:17:52.980 this amazing speaker and he's quoting scripture he's quoting he's quoting apocalypse yeah it's

02:17:59.920 wild one of the most interesting characters in the book he's described he's called the turd eater

02:18:05.660 and he's described i i kind of want to set the entire scene where he's introduced because i love

02:18:10.460 this scene sure um so and this is at the consulate the belgian consulate and this is near the

02:18:17.080 beginning of the book it opens and there's a mass of people at the gate to the consulate because

02:18:22.620 belgium as with many nations in europe but france included they had um offered these people like

02:18:30.620 amnesty to children they'll take in children they'll adopt children and there's a lot of people

02:18:34.960 in the west who want to adopt these children and so what that inspired was all these you know

02:18:41.020 wretched pieces of refuse to have babies for the purpose of giving them away for adoption hoping

02:18:47.980 that would be their ticket to the west but it's this really you know upsetting scene where you

02:18:53.880 know the most the fattest the plumpest most beautiful babies are at the front and these

02:18:58.600 women are pleading and they're this one woman she's got this speech and she like tears are

02:19:04.080 streaming down her face she's describing how much she just sacrificed to raise this baby even

02:19:08.200 letting one of it's implied letting one of her own uglier kids die so this one her daughters die

02:19:14.140 yeah to fatten this one up because they said this is our ticket and she's like i'm i've given this

02:19:20.640 baby enough i want to eat now so you've got this there's a lot that's kind of bound up in that

02:19:26.280 scene one is these people describing like how they just see their children as tickets to the west in

02:19:32.220 a way even though it's a long shot but then also they don't even care for their children like i

02:19:36.960 just don't want this fucking baby anymore and that's what they're saying to this guard the

02:19:41.240 chic guard the sick guard is how they describe um on the other side of the gate but then the most

02:19:46.680 beautiful babies at the front but as you recede back into the crowd they get uglier and uglier

02:19:52.560 and uglier until at the very very back of the crowd there's just this giant this dark-skinned

02:19:58.680 giant holding this mutant baby aloft described as having these stumps for arms and a flap for a

02:20:06.460 mouth and just these crazy eyes like it just it sounds like a monstrosity you could it almost

02:20:11.060 sounds like a sketch and they call him the monster yeah the book calls him the monster yeah and this

02:20:17.300 in this crate this giant man it's called the turd eater because he's one of the untouchables

02:20:21.720 his entire life his entire cast is living in the gutter and making bowls and things out of

02:20:28.540 shit and trying to sell it and he eats shit quite literally so it's like this is the worst entity

02:20:34.600 one could imagine he's illiterate he's huge and he's violent however he becomes something i don't

02:20:42.800 want to call him a christ-like figure but almost and not an anti-christ either but like their

02:20:47.180 version of a christ but there's some kind of mysticism that speaks through him maybe maybe

02:20:51.820 anti-messiah yeah but like you said all of a sudden he's quoted means messiah so you know

02:20:58.000 yeah antichrist is right he's quoting scripture and this abomination child seems to hold sway

02:21:04.400 over people they they look towards it and so he's got this power over people becomes

02:21:09.600 just their leader and this entire time they the the whole revolution to invade the west

02:21:17.840 has not occurred yet it is instigated as i said by these actors who are trying to funnel these

02:21:24.480 these these people these these indians on these boats these non-government organizations are

02:21:31.520 are facilitating these times where have we seen this before exactly and then that's one of the

02:21:37.760 if you imagine this in the 70s this would sound like bombastic nonsense this is like what this

02:21:45.040 would never happen now if you read this of course the 2025 eyes this is literally happening you know

02:21:51.200 um there's some aspects it gets a little wrong but other than that it's line for line how this

02:21:59.760 would happen if there's one you know we'll get into the the actual invasion later on but i just

02:22:06.760 wanted to i mean i'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt of 50 years you know well

02:22:11.960 i guess i guess 40 when mass migration really hit off or it became an issue in what 2011

02:22:17.840 yeah that's what that's when i that's when i remember like seeing the videos uh yeah with

02:22:24.380 various uh geez i don't even remember them at this point but they all kind of blend together

02:22:30.860 where it's just you know these people arriving from the mediterranean and then being fed you

02:22:36.540 know rations the war rations and they're like uh you know what is this i was i was promised you

02:22:42.900 know milk and honey and stuff like that like yeah just I just I remember the entitlement and I'm

02:22:48.780 just like ah this this topic gets me very charged yeah well you would get very emotional and

02:22:56.620 passionate reading this because it aligns with your reality especially once we get into the end

02:23:03.820 like you said the NGOs but also the journalists the entire media apparatus in France it's

02:23:08.760 described in great deal as trying to suppress the information about what's going on.

02:23:14.480 And I would say that leads us, that's from like the middle part of the book.

02:23:18.040 After this fleet has set sail, there's news coming in about it and they, they must make

02:23:25.180 it, make it so people don't understand what's going on in these boats.

02:23:28.620 They're, they're selling a story that these are all women and children and they want to

02:23:32.880 breathe free and they're just like us.

02:23:35.520 in reality i mean this is probably the most disgusting part of the book in my opinion

02:23:40.460 where it describes what's going on on that fucking ship right the main one like like there's orgies

02:23:48.000 and shit like you need to understand that you take the people of the lower classes from the

02:23:52.940 ganges then you enclose them in this tight space for i think it's like three months is not the

02:23:58.600 word i would use because that implies that there's some sort of uh consent it's it's some

02:24:06.280 kind of sexual mass mass rape but it's like men man on man and child on woman and woman on it's

02:24:14.980 this just massive flesh you might imagine hell is like this yeah there's no consent here because

02:24:20.980 everyone's in such tight quarters it's just this reeking stinky sweaty mass because at this point

02:24:27.620 they're just eat their shoulder to shoulder they're just kind of boiling rice and then they

02:24:31.500 run out of wood they run out of anything to boil the water so they end up drying out their own

02:24:38.780 shit they end up like collecting shit baking it in the sun and then burning that shit do as we've

02:24:43.920 always done yeah we'll do as we always do that's what the ancestors did so before times there's

02:24:50.380 this a few lines quite a few lines where um if anyone's familiar with the phrase imagine the

02:24:56.200 smell they say that in the book like they they send airplanes and helicopters over these fucking

02:25:01.840 boats and like it's just hitting us like a punch in the face like we can't fly over this this fleet

02:25:07.360 because it's like people on a shore a hundred miles away are like holy fuck what is that smell

02:25:13.740 because it's like burning shit and just sweaty indians but oh sorry go ahead no no you go ahead

02:25:21.200 go ahead no no there's there's this one scene where the french government is trying to figure

02:25:25.260 out what they're going to do about this and one all the ministers have have they have no

02:25:33.640 testicular fortitude at all right they're just like oh uh we can just keep them at sea forever

02:25:39.440 and we'll give them to the un and and and there'll be an island nation at sea it's what we've always

02:25:45.140 done we got to make sure we break up the fleet in half so that one half aids the other and they

02:25:49.660 can never talk to each other and it'll be just like we've always done before and everybody's

02:25:54.840 like trying to talk themselves into this but there's this one junior sort of administrator

02:26:01.200 who's like no i have 10 serious solutions for this but you people are just not you're not serious

02:26:09.020 people so you're not going to take the you're not going to take my advice and he just he just he

02:26:14.340 machine guns the room yeah yeah that was great like throughout the book there are these individuals

02:26:21.420 who understand what's going on

02:26:23.280 and understand what must be done to correct it.

02:26:25.660 And they are sort of shoved out of society

02:26:29.280 and they find each other by the end of the book.

02:26:31.460 But there's certain these heroes who just,

02:26:33.900 I think there's a Captain Notaris

02:26:35.880 who they come across one of the boats.

02:26:39.840 Like some of these boats, the smaller ones,

02:26:41.200 are already beneath the water line.

02:26:43.080 They're just trudging along.

02:26:44.380 And one of them is sort of upturned

02:26:46.420 and there's just bodies in the water,

02:26:47.860 thousands and thousands of bodies.

02:26:49.220 and they're like well we must we must stop and we must pick them and then he just doesn't want to

02:26:54.200 and just goes full steam ahead and just runs them all over and just churns them up into chum

02:27:00.720 and he's just smiling the whole time and he's tried as a war criminal but as the book goes on

02:27:06.200 it's like well he had the right idea like there's various people on there like well what could you

02:27:11.320 do you can't bring them on you're both all over in the book it's like you know what yep he did

02:27:15.300 the right thing um and just like south africa south africa is you know as the fleet is going

02:27:21.960 around the horn of africa and all because it takes a long time takes like three months something

02:27:27.520 like that maybe even longer um they're they're thinking along 50 days yeah they said they said

02:27:34.720 every there's all these countries along the way they'll deal with it they're not going to get to

02:27:38.760 france so they're hoping south africa does something and it doesn't um you know they just

02:27:44.460 basically say if you land here we will shoot you we'll destroy your fucking boats and they're

02:27:49.820 treated as a global pariah how dare apartheid state south africa should be punished you know

02:27:55.440 what we would say now right so so here's here's one thing right in this in if in the camp of the

02:28:04.100 saints version of things right uh south africa's probably still around rhodesia is probably still

02:28:13.360 around yeah yeah and there's you know they're an apartheid state and everyone kind of makes a

02:28:20.240 not a mockery but makes a monster out of them and then they're forgotten and then the air i think

02:28:25.840 they they go to the suez canal i think that's the one and then what country is i want to say it's

02:28:31.860 iran but it's not around uh um egypt yeah egypt they're like okay the egyptians will take them

02:28:38.540 in because you know they're they'll like that that place more but they turn that they militarily

02:28:44.720 turn them away at risk of blowing up so like they're it's passing the buck the entire the

02:28:49.920 entire world is passing the buck to france daring them to do something and the story is they wait

02:28:55.900 until it's too late that's really the story it's like they by the time they want to fight back

02:29:00.120 by the time the president of france is basically saying you know we can't let them in they're there

02:29:06.360 And then the towns and villages are abandoned and there's been little flashpoints for the nation of, and this is where the third world is a global South story comes in that there's friend, you know, the unions of the fucking janitors and shit, all the Jamaicans in France, they're siding with them.

02:29:24.920 and right there they're all and they're they're waiting in the lurch there uh oh i think there was

02:29:31.620 a really good there was a really good phrase that respiel used uh i think that's like the third

02:29:36.740 different time or you know the third different time i've pronounced his name uh anyway uh where

02:29:42.980 these guys are the jamaicans the the black people all all the global south of france are waiting at

02:29:52.180 radio for the president's speech and they're going to attack and and riot if if they're uh

02:29:59.460 if they if what happens if what they think is going to happen happens where the president

02:30:05.380 actually you know stands up and says no we're not taking them in uh and and there's one line

02:30:11.860 in particular where he says something like and france because she gave away all her menial jobs

02:30:18.580 stupidly uh is now held hostage by them very very much like um like in fight club

02:30:27.860 and they're pissing in the soup and it's like these are the guys that uh wash your car and

02:30:32.420 pick up your laundry and like don't with them you know and it's like yeah the same thing happened

02:30:37.620 in rome when the sheer number of the slaves you know was unignorable any decadent society where

02:30:45.220 where there's such a swelling underclass,

02:30:47.900 eventually they realize,

02:30:48.880 and that's a fault of the system.

02:30:50.160 That's why these revolutions can take place.

02:30:53.260 And that's one of the,

02:30:54.140 another theme of the book,

02:30:55.460 which is that, you know,

02:30:57.260 even though there is violence in it

02:30:59.340 and there are these very, you know,

02:31:01.560 terrible scenes that happen,

02:31:03.280 there's no mass violence per se.

02:31:06.080 The idea is that the war is already over.

02:31:08.360 By the time the fleet arrives,

02:31:11.340 France has essentially surrendered.

02:31:13.100 That's really the story

02:31:13.900 that the western world does not put up a fight there is no race war the the fleet arriving is

02:31:22.060 the conquering of the nation they just move in into these villages in these towns where the

02:31:27.740 inhabitants have fled and there's there's only tiny resistance from some of the main characters

02:31:32.780 we've come to understand in the book who group together by the end sort of a last defined stand

02:31:37.940 but it's it's one guy versus a million people and they know they're going to die and they you know

02:31:46.900 they take out a couple hundred by um defending this village but really it's not like armies

02:31:52.880 clashing by the end of it it's a fleet of refugees and this is what happens you know when um when you

02:31:58.720 look at the collapse of the bronze age and these great cities um what's interesting is some people

02:32:06.140 will blame it on the arrival of the sea people that was spoken of in history but that was sort

02:32:12.460 of you know they weren't a conquering viking horde of any sort of stripe really that was just like

02:32:19.820 the last step of a civilization that had already started to decay due to its own internal inertia

02:32:25.660 plus it was subjected to several natural disasters and earthquakes so really they were just like

02:32:31.900 refugees sort of like these indians like they move in because there's no one to defend the borders

02:32:38.140 and because no one gives a shit anymore and that the the inertia of the nation is just it they just

02:32:45.400 move in on the land and no one's there to defend it um which is you know if if you're going into

02:32:51.480 this expecting the turner diaries where it's like guerrilla war in the streets or anything like that

02:32:56.600 or terrorism like it's not that it's it's deeper and i would say more uh relevant to our situation

02:33:03.480 right now it's the west goes quietly into the night it's there's it's no bang but there is a

02:33:14.240 whimper yeah it's it's so you can't imagine that this would have happened pre-second world war

02:33:23.440 pre-first world war yeah like and all of the villains get their comeuppance but it doesn't

02:33:28.820 matter because the villains die but then everyone does like there's one really tragic figure um it's

02:33:35.980 um it's this guy he's a songwriter believe and his wife who's like a hapa woman and they're

02:33:43.620 they're celebrating they're almost like communists like they're celebrating the communist revolution

02:33:48.480 They think that the third world will bring in a socialist sentiment, more socialist than they've already got.

02:33:56.180 And they're driving their fast car, and they're laughing in soldiers' faces, telling them to turn back.

02:34:01.980 And they end up in this town that's overrun by prisoners because all the prisons have been emptied, you know, without much of a fight.

02:34:10.840 It's just everyone, you know, that's another theme in the book, which is that all the police, all the military, all the authoritarian forces, they just got the memo that things are falling apart and then half of them just leave.

02:34:23.340 So the entire structures begin to decay.

02:34:25.440 Anyway, the prisons are emptied.

02:34:27.060 And then these two people, the entire book, you've been hearing about them, you know, trying to, you know, propel this forward.

02:34:35.720 And they're laughing in the faces of everyone saying, you're going to get what you deserve.

02:34:38.720 so they go to this bar and you know this is a guy who wrote who who has defended migrants his

02:34:44.880 entire life he's written columns he's written books about it and some of them even recognize

02:34:49.600 him and say hi he's one of us drink and then they get drunk and then they just gang rape his wife

02:34:54.800 and trap him in a room upstairs and he's just like crying his eyes out for hours and hours

02:35:00.560 then they let him out his wife is naked is committed suicide by pills and then he just

02:35:06.080 wanders down the beach yeah like yeah the bad guys get their comeuppance but you don't feel

02:35:11.300 good about it and also we all lose and that's really that keeps happening throughout the book

02:35:17.520 it's like yep all the all the ones on side of this end up just stomped into puddles one scene

02:35:23.880 of uh the the algerians experimenting on the young french women oh yeah um basically because

02:35:34.040 here's another thing they do in the book um and i don't know if i like this you tell me what you

02:35:39.640 think and this is just from a prose perspective that throughout the book he'll be describing

02:35:47.480 someone or their fate and he'll actually open with what happens to them at the end

02:35:52.040 and then describes what happens almost like spoiling the ending of it he does that all

02:35:56.840 throughout the book it was it was a little jarring because because you're like oh i've already read

02:36:02.040 this you know and yeah like you'll say this you'll say you know this person was burned to death and

02:36:06.760 then he'll describe for like a couple like a page and a half about who they are then what led to

02:36:12.120 them burn to death i'm like okay well i kind of you know you spoil it maybe that's good though

02:36:17.080 it happened enough where it's on purpose i just don't know if that made the book any better

02:36:21.720 similarly and this is what i was getting to throughout the book he'll flash forward in time

02:36:26.520 because he's writing this from the perspective of someone from this world you know this is like a

02:36:32.040 an autobiography someone is writing of a period of time.

02:36:36.020 And then as he's describing it, he's flashing forward to present day,

02:36:39.840 letting the reader know that it didn't turn out well,

02:36:43.420 letting them know that the sort of revolution was successful.

02:36:47.200 And that destroyed the tension for me because for the first half of the book,

02:36:52.120 it's building all this tension,

02:36:54.080 this mystery of what is going to happen when this boat arrives.

02:36:57.620 And it's very effective at doing that,

02:36:59.780 except when it pings you with the reality that yep and then they get there and then nothing good

02:37:04.680 happens but i'm like i i wish it didn't do that what do you think maybe part of it is just that

02:37:10.820 that french nihilism where it's like don't have hope like i'm just gonna i'm gonna gonna take

02:37:17.100 that from you right away uh there's there's no point in you having any sort of delusions that

02:37:23.540 it turns out all right now you had said you liked the ending and i'm gonna like i said i like the

02:37:31.060 first part of the book more i was hoping for something more when the boats arrived on the

02:37:38.580 shores of france so they all arrived they all land and then you know there's thousands who died

02:37:43.060 on the boats and so corpses are washing up on shore i don't know what i was expecting and i

02:37:47.380 don't want to say i was i wanted a twist or a rug pull from the story but what ends up happening is

02:37:54.620 oh they just file off the ships and then they kind of swarm into the countryside and then the

02:38:00.000 most predictable thing happens but i was just hoping for something miraculous or weird to

02:38:05.280 happen like the boats get there and they're all dead for something you know that's why that's why

02:38:10.540 i liked the ending because it does it doesn't pull that punch you know there there's there's

02:38:18.040 certain books uh that it's like a it's like a dive bomb or a dive bomber right coming at you

02:38:26.040 excuse me coming at you and the whole time you're just hoping that it pulls up pulls up pulls up

02:38:32.680 and it doesn't and it releases the bomb and it kills you

02:38:36.160 and a lot a lot of people don't have the stomach to to follow through on their their massive

02:38:44.400 it would it would it would ring fake to me if if there was some sort of miraculous

02:38:52.100 save at the end you know not even a save but because i know what you're thinking i'm saying

02:38:59.400 but i'm not saying that not like oh and then everything's okay but just something

02:39:03.080 else because it builds up that sort of divine providence throughout the entire book and then

02:39:09.740 it just sort of abandons them i don't know like it was just it because because that

02:39:14.800 you know provident like god's punishment is met out you know like yeah i don't know you're not

02:39:24.780 going to get away you're not going to get away with it it just felt that the entire back half

02:39:29.240 the book was on a descent whereas the first half it was a very interesting ascent and then it just

02:39:35.420 it was and then you know the last stand of like the fact that all these main characters just met

02:39:40.520 each other at the end I'm like ah that's kind of hokey you know what I mean like then I I don't

02:39:46.600 know i i liked it because it it showed it it showed some i i think it was a realistic portrayal

02:39:57.740 of what's probably going to end up happening unfortunately where you're going to have

02:40:03.660 the majority of normal society just succumb to this fate and you have a few online shit posters

02:40:14.180 who might meet up IRL and try and create society

02:40:18.320 and maybe fail at it.

02:40:23.100 What I liked about the part, again,

02:40:26.220 where the boats were about to hit France

02:40:28.120 is the way it was describing the transformation

02:40:30.660 of the inhabitants of the ship.

02:40:33.580 And I'm paraphrasing here, but it says that

02:40:35.580 when they set sail, they were driven by

02:40:38.460 something like vengeance, like a quest

02:40:40.860 for the land of milk and honey, as you describe.

02:40:44.180 And it was, it was hostile and they are, they continue to be more and more hostile on the ships throughout the journey there because at various points, these, these religious groups, the Catholics and the Protestants both try and like race each other to give aid and these other countries are trying to give them aid and they get the food and the medicine on the boats, but they reject it.

02:41:06.820 they throw it over the side and they're rushing to try and justify like what could they mean by

02:41:12.400 this it couldn't be that they just hate us they must be confused they must have thought we were

02:41:17.080 the bad guys trying to poison them but there's a point i forget exactly where this was but

02:41:22.440 they described that the hostility and the anger had just melted away they weren't hateful anymore

02:41:29.620 They were something else. And it was such an interesting view of race where on the way there, they could be seen as sort of like anti-white.

02:41:41.340 You know, they were all united. It didn't matter if they were Indian. It's just this, there's white people, Europeans, and then everyone else united against them.

02:41:49.400 But by the time they land, they don't even see themselves as reacting to whites. And the quote was something like, they are the only race.

02:41:57.400 there that they don't see themselves in the shadow of anyone else they've been driven mad

02:42:03.520 by their time on the ship and they already started off pretty deranged and diseased but by the time

02:42:08.140 they're there they're not even fucking human anymore they don't even they're driven by something

02:42:12.980 else they don't even know what they are but it's just this like one organism moving forward and i

02:42:19.520 thought that was an interesting way of describing them like they are the they're not anti-white

02:42:23.780 they're the only race on earth by the time they land and in some ways in some ways it's quaint

02:42:33.880 the book is the book is cute in uh in its portrayals of what could happen because at

02:42:42.060 the end yeah it's like what 800 000 people make it off these boats it's like oh that's that's

02:42:48.020 that's a good year in the United States.

02:42:52.220 Yeah.

02:42:52.800 But by the end of it,

02:42:54.260 you know,

02:42:54.580 they set up like that,

02:42:56.520 that horde specifically takes over a certain part of like Southern France,

02:43:00.960 I think,

02:43:01.400 but it triggered these other revolutions throughout the world.

02:43:04.940 And it doesn't give details on that.

02:43:06.600 It's not a geopolitical forecast.

02:43:09.220 He glosses over that part because he should,

02:43:11.640 you can spiral.

02:43:13.460 The last nation is Switzerland.

02:43:17.140 Yeah.

02:43:17.260 Where the author is writing from sort of the last bastion, but then even that is beginning to fall, even that is opening its borders, succumbing, as every other nation did, to its own internal treachery, saying that, you know, eventually it's destined to fall unless you're choosing armed combat.

02:43:37.420 And that's sort of the other message of the book, which is like, you need to shoot your way out of this.

02:43:40.780 And if failing that, there is no solution to this.

02:43:45.360 There was, I was surprised because, you know, you hear all the memes about, like you said, this book's reputation precedes it. I was surprised that they had a Soviet Russian perspective in the book at all.

02:44:01.900 and i thought that was very telling that the the russians were giddy to to get revenge on the

02:44:11.880 germans in the second world war uh but they but they balked at shooting chinese women and children

02:44:19.040 yeah and also you know you would think oh the soviet union would be the most open to these

02:44:26.120 no no no they didn't want the chinese entering there either no no and and they were giving and

02:44:31.320 All they wanted was, quote-unquote, Siberia.

02:44:33.460 Like, the thing about Russia is it's massive.

02:44:36.040 You can fit the whole global south and never know that they were there.

02:44:43.280 But you forget that, you know, looking at the communists from our perspective,

02:44:48.820 if you're caught up in the discourses on X,

02:44:51.700 you would think that the entire Soviet Union was just like danger-haired campus progressives.

02:44:58.040 But no, these were serious men that were extremely pragmatic.

02:45:01.320 Like they wouldn't be swinging open the doors of their nation for theory

02:45:05.200 purposes.

02:45:06.240 Like any of these people like,

02:45:07.420 so they were having the same conversations that the United States was

02:45:10.920 having.

02:45:11.400 There was the,

02:45:12.200 the,

02:45:12.740 the two Soviet,

02:45:15.300 I think one was a Colonel and the other was maybe a general.

02:45:18.520 And he's talking about like,

02:45:19.920 Oh man,

02:45:20.440 if I have to hear these guys and they're broken Russian,

02:45:23.040 talk about the talk about Soviet or communist theory,

02:45:26.640 I'm going to just shoot myself.

02:45:28.240 There's not enough vodka for that.

02:45:29.660 And he was he was very drunk and they all got very drunk on vodka. Some people might think that's a trope. I just think that's a real thing that would happen all the time.

02:45:38.380 Yeah, no, he was he talked about he's like, well, if I'm going to kill all these people, I'm going to have to do it completely drunk. And the guy was what was that like? There was that great speech. And this was early on, too, where he said all the great wars in history were fought by drunk people.

02:45:52.700 right right all it was all drunkards and and the guy replies he's like well there's no respect for

02:45:59.140 for drunken soldiers anymore or something something to that effect uh yeah i was missing more of that

02:46:06.700 i thought there was more conversations more you know here's a word for a diverse conversations

02:46:12.700 earlier on i liked those conversations more than what i got at the end again i'm not trying to rag

02:46:17.920 on the end too too much but you know some of these characters just fade away like the turd eater

02:46:23.500 you know he arrives it is you know child arrive on the shores of france and then kills one of

02:46:30.680 the guys and then sort of just disappears you know then by that point we're just fading into

02:46:35.160 the end of the story but yeah it just sort of fades into nihilism as you described it

02:46:41.360 um and and maybe that's there's a good ending there's one fate i'd like to also describe before

02:46:51.140 i forget sorry there's one uh what's his name he's the soldier but he has a specific name

02:46:58.600 you remember like the ranger or something uh no i don't he had defects from the army and it's like

02:47:04.700 him versus the regular army and then he's like a communist or a marxist in some sense

02:47:10.460 I want to find his name here

02:47:12.920 anyway I'll look it up later

02:47:14.280 but they arrive on the shores

02:47:17.260 to welcome the horde

02:47:19.420 with a bunch of other villagers

02:47:21.360 these well off people

02:47:22.580 and then they're just shoved aside

02:47:24.600 and then they're like many of them

02:47:26.200 swept up into the march of these people

02:47:29.480 and then elbowed and almost trampled

02:47:31.220 but he fights his way out

02:47:33.240 and he notices on the faces of everyone there

02:47:35.760 there is no gratitude

02:47:36.640 they're there offering food

02:47:38.760 offering directions to supermarkets they found supermarkets these abandoned towns to direct them

02:47:44.440 to and it's just they don't give a shit there's like nothing in their eyes that they recognize

02:47:48.360 and no thank you and no appreciation which is really what they wanted because they they were

02:47:52.120 the white saviors right in this story and then as he's being you know elbowed and fumbled through

02:47:57.960 this crowd he finds one of the old women there and he saves her and and they get out of the crowd he

02:48:03.240 He yanks her out, and he finally sees appreciation in her eyes, like a thank you,

02:48:08.240 and he finally gets the appreciation and describes their life from there

02:48:11.440 because they were so excited about redistributing the wealth

02:48:15.280 and all these ill-gotten gains from the bourgeoisie,

02:48:18.000 and they describe them.

02:48:19.100 They don't die.

02:48:20.040 They live on as scavengers and describes their days.

02:48:23.080 They'll just go through a town and then look over the hall of the day,

02:48:27.100 and it's like a fucking alarm clock here, a piece of old bread there,

02:48:30.900 There may be a nice ruby ring or something, and they're like Gollum.

02:48:34.920 They're described as like Smeagol from Lord of the Rings, just like hunched over in some kind of barn, like clapping, like hee hee hee.

02:48:42.220 Yeah, they become what they always were.

02:48:44.660 Yeah, that's their dream.

02:48:45.660 Their dream is just eking out a living with the crumbs of the elites.

02:48:50.620 But that's all he must cling to that.

02:48:52.960 he must cling to the image of this like decrepit old woman happy because that's the only gratitude

02:48:59.180 he receives for the worst treachery imaginable to his nation because this was a military leader

02:49:05.840 we're speaking of right now it takes a lot out of you doesn't it i know you really does i i i told

02:49:14.960 you i dm'd you i was like this this book made me incredibly pissed off and you were like you were

02:49:22.360 like uh that it's so bad or or what i was like i i actually like what i wrote so hold on let me

02:49:28.160 let me quote myself real quick uh you know as as i want to do i i'm harboring a fleet of hatred

02:49:36.380 for the third world and its benefactors yeah and again it's clear that the enemies in this book

02:49:42.680 are the ngos the journalists the politicians who and you spend the most time with them throughout

02:49:48.600 the book hearing their conversations hearing their justifications hearing their lies their

02:49:53.600 strategies to get this thing done and they get their comeuppance but again at what cost who gives

02:50:01.060 a shit um and it's like i said very relevant relevant to our current era and i think that

02:50:08.080 there's a good reason that this book is out of print i wasn't i'm not able to find i think they're

02:50:14.500 I think they're printing new copies soon.

02:50:17.780 I remember like one of the print houses from our space,

02:50:21.980 I forget which one,

02:50:22.740 it might've been Imperium or Animal Crossing.

02:50:24.020 It might be Imperium.

02:50:25.260 They ran into problems getting the rights.

02:50:27.740 There's something,

02:50:28.420 there was some,

02:50:28.860 at the time there was something to do

02:50:30.040 with whoever held the rights to this.

02:50:31.960 They were blocking reprinting of it

02:50:34.300 because this is a very difficult book to find.

02:50:36.900 However,

02:50:37.960 I do think,

02:50:38.900 and these translations are available,

02:50:40.840 if this was more widely read,

02:50:42.560 this book, more than any

02:50:44.600 others, has the

02:50:46.420 possibility to radicalize the reader.

02:50:48.540 And by radicalize, I don't even know what I mean.

02:50:50.960 But I am saying, like, you will

02:50:52.440 walk away from this book.

02:50:54.340 Again, it's not just a lurid,

02:50:56.620 gory tale of

02:50:58.360 race, war, revenge. It's something deeper.

02:51:00.540 It is something spiritual. It's not even

02:51:02.340 necessarily a criticism of

02:51:04.440 Christianity, although that factors into

02:51:06.600 it. It's almost an affirmation of Christianity

02:51:08.620 by showing how these church

02:51:10.640 leaders these cardinals these pastors have betrayed their people and god punishes them for it so it's

02:51:15.940 not as simple as a lot of people might be church bad catholicism bad like look at them well because

02:51:23.000 the pope the jesuits are up to their tricks even though they are yeah because the pope is you know

02:51:27.920 he gets a lot of score in this book heaped upon him but he's just there's one line in the book

02:51:32.460 that said any other era he would be labeled an anti-pope and killed right so there's a recognition

02:51:38.440 here that we are in historically unprecedented times that these leeches and these jackals are

02:51:46.540 allowed to dominate the leadership class, and they're the ones responsible for it all throughout

02:51:51.420 the world. And it doesn't take a lot of them to do it, is the idea. And of course, there's musicians

02:51:57.080 and artists swept up, but they're not the ones driving it. They're just popularizing it. And

02:52:02.320 there's that one song that's described all throughout the book. I don't know the lyrics

02:52:07.940 exactly but one of the refrains is and now the thousand years are over saying and there's there's

02:52:14.400 imagery cooked up by the song about jesus on the cross and these hindu gods approach him and remove

02:52:21.760 the nails from his hands and his feet and bring him down from the cross christ is saved by these

02:52:26.920 indian deities these hindu gods right right and then there's even a scene earlier on where the

02:52:33.860 the indian deities leave christ behind

02:52:37.520 in india and he and he and they say to him well if you're actually the son of god then walk out

02:52:45.040 onto the water and come join us and he ends up drowning yeah yeah there's i think there's stuff

02:52:52.740 like that that i think it it's you can really spend a long time diving into the imagery that's

02:52:59.920 cooked up in this book and so it was it was surprising how how metaphysically complex it was

02:53:07.780 while also describing to you a ship full of stinking coming indians that are cooking their

02:53:14.240 own shit now no quick quick question for you how many times do you think tom homan has read this

02:53:21.740 book uh we know steven miller loves this book how popular do you think this book is versus how

02:53:32.400 they just bring it up and kind of gesture to it i i think it's i think it is definitely one of the

02:53:39.720 boogeymen uh for for the left to kind of point at and say oh look at look at the look at what

02:53:46.520 the chuds are doing look at what they're reading this is what they actually think

02:53:49.320 i i think part of it i think it was definitely it was a bestseller in 2011 in france so it's

02:53:58.580 very widely read there i would say that i mean yeah i think there are some top people who know

02:54:08.640 the score it's a good book and don't let anyone tell you otherwise and i haven't read the turner

02:54:15.600 diaries i'm probably gonna end up reading that soon but as i understand it's not really like

02:54:20.720 this no it's not good uh so do you know cap uh capitalissimo yeah yeah i know him yeah okay so

02:54:29.620 he and i do another show uh every week we we are reading aberration in the heartland of the real

02:54:35.920 which is uh one of a schizo book about timothy mcveigh and the oklahoma city bombing right

02:54:43.400 and just going over that conspiracy and it's you know it's a really long thick book it's a

02:54:48.460 terrific read i highly recommend it and one of the things she goes in depth about the turner diaries

02:54:55.660 and and mcveigh's obsession with it so we talk about it for a little bit and yeah it's just not

02:55:01.140 a good book it's like it's it's just not well written and and even pierce himself said it

02:55:08.020 wasn't meant to be well written yeah well also we on blood satellite we did a whole arc on white

02:55:15.240 nationalist literature starting with Mein Kampf and we uh we didn't read the turn diaries but we

02:55:20.240 read this really fascinating biography uh an investigative journalist spent some time with

02:55:25.720 Luther Pierce it's called uh I believe the fate of a dead man's deeds um because I listened to

02:55:32.660 your most recent episode I think you referenced it then yeah it's really good it's just a

02:55:37.400 here's what it was like to be William Luther Pierce on his compound.

02:55:41.520 Here's the story of him.

02:55:43.280 And the story,

02:55:44.280 it intersects with the story of the order or the silent brotherhood.

02:55:47.180 And it talks about the Turner diaries.

02:55:48.880 He speaks of the Turner diaries.

02:55:49.980 And I think it must've sold something like 200,000 copies,

02:55:54.920 something fucking wild like that.

02:55:56.940 Like 200,000 copies for a book.

02:56:00.160 People you get on the New York times bestseller list for selling like a

02:56:03.820 thousand.

02:56:04.500 Right.

02:56:04.980 Like the,

02:56:05.460 The bar is very, very low for books because Donald Peele will buy books.

02:56:08.500 So imagine selling 200,000 copies through the mail.

02:56:12.500 Like, this was a massive book, which is wild to think about.

02:56:15.820 And I wonder how Camp of the Saints would stack up because it is, even though I haven't read it, I do suspect this is a better book.

02:56:22.880 You know, it is a much better book, you know, would be really ironic because you can get knockoff books printed in India and then ship them.

02:56:35.460 no no no and you can actually you can actually have them like you can buy them on amazon i have

02:56:40.980 a book that uh i got i thought it was at discount but then i look at it like oh this was printed by

02:56:47.140 just some guy oh we gotta we gotta do it we gotta do this so so just you know get a fiver and uh

02:56:58.180 ask him to print and mail you a book yeah if there's one thing i know i don't know how long

02:57:04.020 you need this episode to be

02:57:06.000 but there's one thing I also

02:57:07.960 wanted to mention

02:57:08.840 and this will

02:57:12.020 sound I'm sure

02:57:13.720 extreme to regular people

02:57:15.900 I don't assume regular people listening to the show

02:57:17.780 but I do think the way they describe

02:57:20.120 Indians in this is

02:57:21.840 accurate because John Raspail

02:57:23.940 he traveled

02:57:25.040 the world when he was younger

02:57:27.760 and I think a lot of this

02:57:29.780 was pulled from his travels

02:57:31.520 his experiences and I don't know

02:57:33.500 A lot of white people love to go to India because they think it's the most spiritual place in the world.

02:57:38.140 But you contrast that against, you know, the Google Maps game or just drop a pin anywhere in India randomly and see if you can find one location that's not covered in shit and trash and it doesn't look like a war zone.

02:57:51.360 Right.

02:57:52.240 So you're like, once you behold these people, and I do think they're an accurate description of what this specific class would be like, it is horrifying.

02:58:02.900 You know, if you're a Westerner, if you're a European, a white person, you know, homeless people. Sure. You know what the hood is like, but the hood is like the aristocracy compared to like the slums of India or these villages in Africa.

02:58:20.340 You know, I'm reading this book. It's a fascinating book called A Sex and Culture by Joseph Unwin, I believe. It was written in the 1930s. I believe it was released either by Antelope Hill or Imperium Press. They did a reprint of it.

02:58:33.100 But it was just this anthropologist. The thesis of the book is that the level of civilization achieved by a tribe is directly correlated with its views on sex and chastity and marriage.

02:58:50.260 and the more monogamous and chaste a tribe or society is the more advanced it is and it was

02:58:57.120 it went all throughout fucking polynesia all throughout africa all throughout south america

02:59:01.540 and it's just a straight up anthropological say discussing these tribes but you're reminded that

02:59:08.300 these tribes exist you're reminded that there's a lot of people in the world you know how you know

02:59:14.080 You think of, well, like the United States of America, that's a huge lamb ass.

02:59:18.440 It's not packed as much as India is, right?

02:59:21.660 There's so many people out there that are, if not cannibals, then pretty close.

02:59:26.880 And they're huffing bags of their own shit.

02:59:29.220 And they do think pedophilia is tolerable.

02:59:32.060 Or they don't have a word for pedophilia because it's just a thing that you do.

02:59:36.380 And that you are just eating dirt mud.

02:59:40.300 You know what I mean?

02:59:40.800 Like you hear about Haiti.

02:59:42.080 Haiti is not the fringe case

02:59:44.680 there's more places like Haiti

02:59:46.800 the world is more like Haiti

02:59:48.140 the world's more like Haiti than it is like France

02:59:50.740 and yet when you talk about

02:59:52.660 global south that's mainly what we're

02:59:54.540 talking about you know there's parts of

02:59:56.520 China that are very civilized

02:59:57.780 like the Middle East is sort of a special

03:00:00.480 case where it's

03:00:02.560 you know very poverty stricken

03:00:04.640 but even the people there

03:00:06.660 are not what you encounter

03:00:08.500 in like the ghettos or the

03:00:10.520 ganges and it's mostly ghetto and it's mostly just filth and these people and you look in their

03:00:17.140 eyes and there's nothing there and as a westerner you're accustomed to logic and reason and even if

03:00:23.820 you're not an individualist you understand that i should be able to build a human connection that's

03:00:29.620 what my secular human society tells me but that does not map onto the rest of the world like

03:00:36.260 you're just you're you're talking i don't want to call them animals but it's something

03:00:39.940 not only do you not speak their linguistic language you don't speak their spiritual

03:00:44.540 language and you don't speak their psychological language like there's nothing they you can maybe

03:00:50.140 nod and give a thumbs up and yeah you both like rice but there's a severe disconnect there

03:00:56.440 there's a you know because because i keep my feet firmly planted in normie land there's a clip from

03:01:04.660 the show family guy i don't know if you've ever heard of it

03:01:07.700 you know ah geez hit lois there's uh they they land they land in india and peter's talking about

03:01:21.080 he's like ah india the the the most spiritual place on earth and he gets off the plane he

03:01:25.760 looks around and it's exactly as you've described and he says god is not here and they get back on

03:01:31.140 the plane well and i see that and everyone gets it but then i watch a movie like the darjeeling

03:01:38.000 limited by wes henderson director and i'm like this is the early 2000s when like yeah but i'm

03:01:44.040 like it looks like it was filmed in india and i'm like i don't know because it's a good it's a good

03:01:50.460 story but the backdrop is india and i'm like i don't know did you not experience india or did

03:01:55.860 You just, like, you hear Owen Wilson, like, this is the most spiritual place in the world, man.

03:02:00.980 I love these people.

03:02:02.780 Are you being sarcastic?

03:02:04.460 Like, I don't know.

03:02:05.100 Like, I'm trying to figure out.

03:02:06.840 You know he hasn't been to India because there weren't 50,000 people on the train.

03:02:12.720 Yeah, yeah.

03:02:13.440 I mean, I don't, maybe there's, I think it's a love letter to British India.

03:02:17.760 Yeah.

03:02:18.020 Like, it's not India, India.

03:02:19.880 It's like a memory of India under the British Raj or something like that without outwardly saying it, I guess.

03:02:26.300 That's the thing too, is these cities that are left, they were built, they used Indian hands to build them, right?

03:02:38.800 But they were the ideas, they were the planning of the British system, right?

03:02:46.920 they're mumbai calcutta british cities delhi british city and just watching it become what it

03:02:55.320 is there are no new five-story buildings being built in india you know what i mean like even

03:03:01.080 yeah there's there's not why why not why can't you why why not why can't you just build something

03:03:09.320 just build something well india's superpower by 2023 i don't know if you heard that i i did know

03:03:15.160 that no and it was 2020 you dig it they got there they sent they sent a a statue of ganesh to the

03:03:25.580 moon and it maybe made it even when i was at my least bigoted when i was in my like early 20s you

03:03:36.320 know you are what you are but maybe you're you know as a self-respecting white man i do have a

03:03:42.240 love of the exotic I have an interest in undiscovered countries but even then I would

03:03:47.480 gaze upon Ganesh or any of these gods and say this is fucking dumb why do we have to why do

03:03:54.080 you have to pretend this isn't stupid even back then and now I just look at you know in in Canada

03:04:00.200 where I'm at we've got uh an Indian colony over in Brampton and they just built a 50-foot statue

03:04:07.180 of one of their gods and of course it's like a half

03:04:09.120 naked monkey man

03:04:10.280 and I'm like why do you

03:04:12.500 you guys are goofy do you know that

03:04:14.720 like do you seriously like this

03:04:16.500 I don't know you believe this

03:04:18.480 like what is what

03:04:20.220 don't tell me it's another guy about luck

03:04:22.700 about sexual luck how many gods

03:04:24.780 you need for sexual luck it's not

03:04:26.640 working that's why I tell Chinese people

03:04:28.660 you have all these rituals for luck how much

03:04:30.580 red have you been wearing your entire life

03:04:32.900 red and gold are you any richer

03:04:34.940 it's not working God

03:04:36.680 frowns upon you i don't know like you say that there's no sexual luck but there is there's a

03:04:42.860 billion of them i do wonder how odd people they don't like grow out of the soil well i think the

03:04:50.420 book explained it pretty well how that happened it's on the ship like it's not sex as you know

03:04:55.580 which is that you seduce someone it's just there's enough of you in a room you formed oh no something

03:05:01.460 something like a rat king you know it's just oh god you're just descending i assume it's like when

03:05:09.140 you descend into a black hole descending into an indian hole it just refracts and it's just

03:05:14.500 everyone going in and bending light and you're twisting throughout time and space and then

03:05:20.820 children appear it's it's a mind-bending reproductive process um that it's difficult to

03:05:28.420 study i assume but it's the only way to explain that many indians because who wants to indian

03:05:37.700 i was doing so well i was doing so well we were we were doing all right and i just brought it out

03:05:43.940 of here if i could do i mean my impression of tr hudson's like um actually um i'm not sure that

03:05:49.780 this is going to be on youtube i'm i'm worried it won't be monetized and i said hey man hey man

03:05:57.460 just let it ride let it ride baby uh well letting it ride uh got us where we are what what else can

03:06:09.620 be would you recommend this book i of course you said you would add to the list but any closing

03:06:13.940 any thoughts any last thoughts on this book in some in some ways it's info hazard

03:06:20.500 it's not something that i would recommend to normal people

03:06:26.900 in but at at the same time it's

03:06:34.180 if you if you're already in this thing if you've already kind of had your eyes open to the way the

03:06:40.820 world actually is this book is you you'll you'll just kind of look at it like oh that's neat

03:06:46.260 i turns out that people have been on this for a long time i wonder why we haven't done anything

03:06:51.980 about this and then that's about it like don't don't go searching this out if you're you know

03:06:56.960 you know if you have a fan duel account could i read some quotes from the book i wrote down

03:07:04.900 some segments that i was going to pepper it i never got the chance um but i think people might

03:07:10.980 find these interesting so going back to the turd eater this is really on the book it's a quote it

03:07:17.280 says and so the turd eater continued the nice little god off his cross rubbed the feeling back

03:07:23.620 into his arms and legs shook them twisted his neck a few times in every direction and said

03:07:27.780 that's true and this is christ speaking to the indian gods that rescued him that's true i owe

03:07:33.580 you my life i'm going to give you my kingdom in return now the thousand years are ended the nations

03:07:40.000 are rising from the four corners of the earth and their number is like the sand of the sea they will

03:07:45.200 march up over the broad earth and surround the camp of the saints and the beloved city so that

03:07:51.040 is where the title comes from the camp of the saints is the destination of this this horde

03:07:57.040 this true in their words the true christians of the world um and what's what's interesting too

03:08:04.000 is like right after the i think it's alan is his name he's he's one of the the characters who helped

03:08:10.400 facilitated this he says uh yes he understands he's read his scripture somehow but he omits the

03:08:16.880 part where they're actually you know death and famine and war and like they're bringing the

03:08:24.160 apocalypse yeah and there's another line here that describes balan it says atheist though he was

03:08:30.240 Balan himself began to have some second thoughts as he heard the sudden clamor rise out of the

03:08:35.600 crowd. Upon the bridge of the India star, the turd eater lifted his hands toward the sky.

03:08:40.760 He grasped his son by his two twisted stumps, and when he raised him high in the air with a

03:08:45.700 signal-like flourish, each soul in the numberless mass thought he heard himself summoned by name.

03:08:52.660 So this is how, like, almost a shockwave goes through the crowd, and they all decide to follow

03:08:58.820 this one entity.

03:09:01.300 Here goes,

03:09:02.300 Back in the days of great national wars

03:09:04.700 among the peoples who cared,

03:09:06.520 the citizens used to tack up battlefield maps

03:09:08.940 in their kitchens or parlors

03:09:10.360 with little flag pins marking out the front,

03:09:13.060 and every night they would move them,

03:09:14.580 or not, depending on the news.

03:09:16.740 In France, at least, the practice died out

03:09:18.960 as early as when the little paper flags

03:09:20.960 were swept away, first by the winds of debacle

03:09:23.380 and then by the winds of indifference.

03:09:25.760 At the height of that war,

03:09:26.820 not a soul, or almost, showed the slightest concern, an attitude piously passed down,

03:09:32.660 father to son, from then on. The daily lap in La Pensée Nationale, clearly suggesting a vast

03:09:38.680 battlefield under attack by an advancing army, made so feeble an impression on the minds of the

03:09:43.640 masses that the paper sales increased by not one single copy. So that's the juxtaposition of old

03:09:50.420 france versus now how people and i love hearing these stories even in britain of how previous

03:09:56.760 generations lived up until even the middle of the 20th century like i remember people we have a

03:10:03.060 great many listeners who live in in and around the united kingdom saying that you know they were

03:10:07.840 raised in sort of like dirt floor houses with just burning wood ovens up until you know the 60s right

03:10:16.420 It wasn't uncommon to raise a family in something like the Great Depression, right?

03:10:21.500 And then you would hear them describe they had the hearth.

03:10:24.180 They had the gun, the rifle passed down from generation to generation.

03:10:28.980 This isn't something from 700 years ago, right?

03:10:31.800 So, and just hearing how that tradition probably broke within one generation.

03:10:38.600 And so now you have the invading army and no one's even tracking it.

03:10:42.760 And that's described in the book as well.

03:10:46.420 it was called the last chance armada that was the name given to it in the book and this was inspired

03:10:51.300 by artists in the west saying you know trying to give some romanticism to it um this is what i was

03:10:57.460 talking about before on the what was driving the force it says the last chance armada en route to

03:11:02.900 the west was feeding on hatred a hatred of almost philosophical proportions so utter so absolute

03:11:09.620 that it had no thoughts of revenge or blood or death but merely consigned its objects to the

03:11:15.060 ultimate void in this case the whites from the ganges refugees on the way to europe the whites

03:11:20.660 had simply ceased to be they no longer existed paradise had already changed hands and hatred

03:11:27.620 made faith all the stronger which is what clementio was trying to suggest without showing his

03:11:32.420 colors or theirs no compromise for the ganges refugees um and here's another uh line later in

03:11:40.340 in the book it says it crushed them to pulp just because they were there ganges monsters western

03:11:45.420 monks it made no distinction it saw itself now as the one and only race all others quite simply

03:11:52.880 had ceased to exist uh the front and gumber monks died and we're describing some monks in the later

03:11:59.220 in the book died not because they were white but only because they were standing in the way

03:12:03.500 not at all like the victims of the gata affair white strangers members of an alien race foreign

03:12:09.280 body summarily rejected from the flesh. In fact, from Gata on, the Woe-be-gone fleet had begun to

03:12:16.180 lose its loathing of the stranger. The emotion no longer served any purpose. It had simply

03:12:22.020 dissolved and melted away, much the same as with the Africans masked up in Limpopo, the Chinese

03:12:28.880 along the Amour, the swirly millions roaming the streets of New York and London, or the myriad

03:12:34.620 Blacks and Arabs ready to spew from the cellars of Paris. For them, the Gata dead spelled the end

03:12:40.480 of the white race in Toto. And that was that. It would have had to rise miraculously for its ashes

03:12:47.300 before they would give it a second thought now. And obviously there on the southern coast of France,

03:12:52.680 nothing of that sort was about to happen. And that to me was maybe the most poignant segment

03:12:58.080 near the end of the book, really trying to not psychoanalyze the mass, but let the reader know

03:13:04.600 that this is happening because the fight has already been surrendered and that is in fact

03:13:10.360 how they see it and i think that is true now i think when these the mass migrations occur now

03:13:17.080 into europe into canada into america america less but mainly canada and europe they see this as

03:13:23.000 victory they see themselves as above us we are like resources and they don't even identify they

03:13:29.800 they pity us right they don't stay they see they see it as an inheritance that they are

03:13:36.280 they they have inherited a great civilization and they just have to wait us out they think

03:13:42.700 we're cowards for not fighting back and because we're cowards we deserve whatever happens to us

03:13:48.100 and in a way they're right oh they're yeah that in a way they're right because there's no rights

03:13:54.880 there's no rights it's only what you have the that's what sovereignty is it's what you can

03:14:00.500 defend either with force or implied force so we're lacking all of that and so the most obvious thing

03:14:07.260 in the world happens the most predictable thing in the world happens and they're not sorry they

03:14:11.560 they don't even think about us and that's what was sort of driving the recent discourse over

03:14:18.160 h1b visas and stuff it's like they're not they didn't think we knew what was going on they thought

03:14:22.920 we were just dumb cowards yeah yeah and so this is what was fascinating about this book even though

03:14:30.140 it seems like it's extreme it's i really don't think it's as extreme i don't i don't yeah i

03:14:35.540 don't i don't think so either it's it's unkind definitely uh to to especially indians but

03:14:43.900 it's you can't call him a liar you know you can't you can't say that he was exaggerating

03:14:52.920 Here's a line that lends to that, it says,

03:15:22.920 After all, it's the only way that makes much sense.

03:15:26.480 And why not?

03:15:27.720 Weren't jesters always cleverer than their kings?

03:15:30.260 So be it.

03:15:31.340 In this new swarthy reign, the white man will be the jester.

03:15:34.700 It's as simple as that.

03:15:36.640 And that was from early on in the book,

03:15:38.340 but I do think that's a thread throughout the entire thing,

03:15:41.520 right up until the last stand.

03:15:43.900 Most definitely.

03:15:45.440 Dimes, I have one question for you.

03:15:47.420 Why do people hate civilization?

03:15:51.000 That's a good question.

03:15:51.940 I think the entire concept of civilization is not fully understood by anyone other than those who create it.

03:16:00.140 So I think it would be wrong, and this is a great book that expresses that, it would be wrong to say that these people hate civilization.

03:16:07.520 They just know that over here, there's things that I want that are being kept from me.

03:16:13.660 I don't understand why they're being kept from me.

03:16:16.400 So on our side, on the side of civilization, we would assign no shortage of theory or even morality to that by saying, oh, they just, they desire an egalitarian world.

03:16:28.840 They desire equality, a redistribution of wealth because they think it's unjust.

03:16:33.100 No, they don't understand justice.

03:16:35.260 They don't understand egalitarianism.

03:16:37.500 They don't fucking understand theory.

03:16:39.740 They understand instinct.

03:16:41.020 They understand desire.

03:16:42.760 I want.

03:16:43.560 Someone told them that there's free pussy over there and they want to take it.

03:16:48.480 And if it's being kept from them, they're going to fight whoever's keeping it from them.

03:16:53.160 That's about what they understand.

03:16:55.140 So they don't have a concept.

03:16:57.360 You know, I always had this example that, you know, Americans, Europeans broadly, but

03:17:03.860 Americans wanted to go to the moon because it was there, because it was the undiscovered

03:17:10.020 country because it is our for better or worse our faustine spirit that demands that we charter

03:17:17.240 flights of all kinds into the darkness to to have a a hostile relationship with the unknown

03:17:24.800 that's why we went to space everyone else went to space because white people did it

03:17:30.100 india absent white people in the world india wouldn't go to fucking space they wouldn't make

03:17:35.840 satellites they wouldn't desire this that desire is not inherent in any other let's just say that

03:17:44.240 but and and that's used against europeans that is it's a in fact they they they're just trying to

03:17:52.580 keep up that is a grievance levied against if they'll say why do white people do that why do

03:17:57.340 white people want to climb mountains i hear that all the time here goes white people climbing

03:18:01.340 mount everest why what's up there like they don't get it they'll never fucking get it they

03:18:05.540 don't understand why you want to climb a mountain because it's there they don't understand why we

03:18:09.320 want to go to the bottom of the ocean why aren't you in a group chat for 12 hours a day with your

03:18:16.000 with your extended family just everybody on the phone why don't you have your three aunties

03:18:20.440 chattering in your ear at all times because you lack the ability to exist without someone filling

03:18:26.340 your brain with chatter you know i mean but it's like they they don't understand why we do these

03:18:31.880 things they think it's silly they make fun of us for it and you know as i've gone through life

03:18:36.100 i've noticed that you know and then i've stopped oh you know we're stupid don't you why do we do

03:18:41.480 that why are white people like that that's what liberals say that's what the bill burrs

03:18:45.140 and the lacy case of the world say you know but i i get it and i think that makes us special and

03:18:51.520 so to answer your question i don't think they see it as civilization i think they just see it as

03:18:57.100 something that they don't have and that they want which makes them inferior caretakers and don't

03:19:03.100 talk to me about how they were caretakers 700 years ago i'm sure hey you guys invented zero

03:19:09.740 real fucking happy for you like if if you think i'm going to trust our great museums and our great

03:19:15.380 works to you people no fuck off and it's not up to me of course who am i i'm not god emperor i'm

03:19:23.340 not a billionaire what do i say but i'm just saying if it were up to me like i would not trust

03:19:28.040 the i'm not a third worldist i don't believe in this this political movement that you know just

03:19:34.040 everyone everyone's pretty much the same and we should all just we can be ethno nationalists

03:19:39.260 but leave each other alone i'm like this is a fucking pipe dream if you think like a mainland

03:19:44.540 chinese person is going to be running the same operating system as i am fuck off

03:19:49.580 i i don't have much to add to that yeah like honestly like

03:19:58.020 guys ask ask these people question what do you think should be done with haiti

03:20:03.980 if the existence of haiti does not offend you to the very depths of your soul

03:20:10.060 maybe maybe we're just we're not we're going to be at odds we must part ways you know what i mean

03:20:15.840 and and that's the thing too is that uh as soon as soon as you say that

03:20:21.760 the the gut instinct of anybody who

03:20:25.360 who wants to keep you know whatever together right or or wants to see the ship burn down

03:20:33.420 if you suggest okay i'm just gonna go over here and do my own thing right and i i think that that

03:20:40.760 is more offensive to them than 1,000 Hades.

03:20:44.580 Yeah, and also just to circle back to your question,

03:20:49.540 I'm trying to think of where I read this.

03:20:52.360 There's actually a source for this claim,

03:20:54.420 but South America is a great example of this.

03:20:57.500 L.A. is another great example

03:20:58.620 where you see some of the most profound violence

03:21:01.940 when the wealthy is stacked right beside the impoverished.

03:21:06.980 there's relatively less crime if the entire area is just poor but there's something about the

03:21:14.720 proximity of wealth next to the favelas that inspires like seething anger so it's just the

03:21:22.720 knowledge that that's there that drives them there's a line from camp of the saints i've got

03:21:26.600 it right here it says a prestigious a prodigious a prodigious interest in this vanguard of an

03:21:34.460 anti-world bent on coming in the flesh to knock at long last at the gates of abundance so part of

03:21:41.340 it's the mythologization of this and part of this is class consciousness that's installed

03:21:46.060 in them from outside actors you know there there's like the ngos or the revolutionaries who are

03:21:52.380 whipping them up into a frenzy whereas otherwise they would just be inert peasants right but there

03:21:59.740 is something where they just want to destroy it because it's it's beautiful and they know they're

03:22:06.780 not and that's something later in the book when that uh the man whose wife was gang raped he's

03:22:12.620 on the beach and he sees the turd eater come and a whole column of these other refugees these

03:22:19.980 invaders he waves to them and they go up to him and the giant just picks him up and the little

03:22:25.340 monster lets out a screech

03:22:27.420 and they just like crush him and kill him

03:22:29.440 and then it opines

03:22:31.580 that the reason they did that

03:22:33.240 wasn't because of anything

03:22:34.860 it could have been because

03:22:36.480 he was beautiful

03:22:38.020 they came across this beautiful thing

03:22:41.660 and they had to destroy it

03:22:43.440 because deep down they know that they're not

03:22:44.980 they know they're reeking and stinking and ugly

03:22:47.380 and they cannot

03:22:49.200 they cannot live

03:22:51.000 in proximity to that

03:22:52.560 so that could be another thing

03:22:53.980 Now, how that would drive them from across the world into Europe, maybe blame telecommunications, that they're exposed constantly to this world that they know they're not a part of.

03:23:04.200 And that drives their jealousy.

03:23:06.760 But I don't think it's as simple as jealousy either.

03:23:09.720 Some people say they hate us because they ain't us.

03:23:12.140 It's something deeper than that.

03:23:14.100 It might be something more akin to, it's not hatred.

03:23:21.460 It's entropy.

03:23:23.980 true like at the end of the day it's like there's more of us than there are of them

03:23:29.380 they are an entropic you know he describes as an anti-world force but like like a tsunami doesn't

03:23:35.860 hate the village that it's crushing and recall that it's only made that way because of the

03:23:44.880 forces of the western world like we returned to earlier in the book where these people are

03:23:50.240 creating more babies because they want to send them to the West. Now you just have all these

03:23:55.700 extra babies that are just left around. So it's like you are helping with every dollar you invest

03:24:02.900 in Africa, you're driving up that birth rate. If you turned off that spigot of capital over Africa,

03:24:08.480 the birth rate would plummet really critically within a couple of generations. Everyone knows

03:24:14.340 that, but it's our charity. It is our goodwill that is propping up these populations just because

03:24:21.240 you won't let them combust from the inside. So we are engineering this mass that will inevitably

03:24:27.400 see our kindness as weakness. I really think that's the underlying message of the book. It's

03:24:32.740 our kindness is seen as weakness. You will not be thanked. You will not be redeemed. You will not be

03:24:39.260 celebrate you will not be redeemed yeah you will do you will not redeem but they will

03:24:44.300 not only that they will rewrite the history so that you were the aggressors and they were the

03:24:50.280 victors so it's it's worse than that they're not going to write it down well they say in the book

03:24:56.140 that that like the history was rewritten because there's sort of like a third worldist regime

03:25:00.940 change throughout the world that like there's an anti-racist museum at the u.n's headquarters in

03:25:06.400 hanoi that's telling the story of like how the western world deserved everything it got

03:25:12.540 with shit like that so right but that that that's also just set up by the ngos like

03:25:17.420 we have no idea what happened to the ganges river civilization or the indus river civilization

03:25:25.280 rather like we we know it was there at one point and then it was gone and we don't really know a

03:25:32.500 whole lot about it right because nobody wrote it down true they're not illiterate people

03:25:40.080 uh i have i have one thing i want to tell you i'm gonna have to tell you offline because it's

03:25:46.620 pretty doxy uh but times where can where can people find you i think yes i think it's best

03:25:53.460 if we stop here of course this first of all let me just say this has been a fantastic talk thank

03:25:57.860 you so much for inviting me on i uh thank you for inspiring me to finally get around to reading this

03:26:02.740 book i'm very happy i did and if we can spread the word about this book and let people know that

03:26:08.500 is something that will impact them in the positive even if it's in the negative at the outset um it's

03:26:14.980 something that i feel happy that we did um bloodsatellite.ca is the main website there you can

03:26:21.120 find links to all of our our full episodes of the show i also run a publishing outlet called

03:26:27.400 the vanguardist journal that's on substack vanguardist journal that's substack.com

03:26:32.100 also a store for merchandise from myself and many other creators including jay burden and the z man

03:26:38.240 good suffer.com and be sure to check out this little short documentary that i helped produce

03:26:46.960 with a team of people from our scene

03:26:48.620 that actually relates to what we've just been talking about.

03:26:51.820 It's called Paving Over the Public.

03:26:53.860 It's about the Canadian mass migration

03:26:56.340 throughout the 20th century.

03:26:58.140 And much like this book,

03:27:00.440 the clandestine machinations

03:27:02.480 of the political and journalist class

03:27:04.580 to engineer a multicultural Canada,

03:27:08.140 despite public opinion polls

03:27:10.020 routinely taken throughout the century,

03:27:12.360 being against mass migration.

03:27:14.040 So it's a very well-produced,

03:27:15.600 a sort of mainstream

03:27:17.120 show it to your friends and they'll

03:27:19.940 kind of get this story. It's called Paving Over

03:27:21.960 the Public. You can search

03:27:23.900 that up on YouTube. And that's it.

03:27:26.120 I won't let you put any more.

03:27:27.880 I will definitely link those below.

03:27:29.740 I saw the documentary.

03:27:31.840 Great job. Thank you.

03:27:33.600 We probably could have done another half hour on that alone.

03:27:36.720 And maybe we will

03:27:37.820 in the future.

03:27:39.780 I know that you guys do the replay.

03:27:42.060 So I'm going to try and shill

03:27:43.840 a little bit better than i usually do i'm usually pretty lazy with chilling on my own podcast

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03:28:25.340 really like the double dealer like it is got a reputation as one of the premier uh magazines

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03:29:06.460 I've partnered with Tukey's Magazine, or Tukey's Mag, rather, to do a show called The Library of Mass Destruction.

03:29:13.880 Myself and Capitalissimo, we go over, you know, schizo books.

03:29:19.040 I paint with a broad brush there, but I don't think anything conspiracy related.

03:29:25.680 And we're in the middle of Aberration in the Heartland of the Real, the Secret Lives of Timothy McVeigh.

03:29:31.460 we're on i think 15 episodes right now each of them like three hours long so it's a it's a long

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03:29:45.060 i'm looking at it right now this looks wild it's awesome it really is and wendy painting does a

03:29:51.880 terrific job of she she has gone into more detail than any any other book that i have read especially

03:30:01.340 about these subjects tom o'neill wrote chaos and that is you know everybody joe rogan had tom o'neill

03:30:09.120 and they talk about chaos right and he talks about how uh it's so well researched it's so

03:30:14.800 well documented you really got to the heart of the manson stuff painting has done that but for

03:30:22.660 uh the oklahoma city bombing i think and there's still more stuff i think she's working on a sequel

03:30:28.080 right now um this originally started off i think as her phd thesis so she she put in a lot of work

03:30:35.820 and uh yeah i have it's it's hard for me to to compliment uh i won't go there but yeah no it's

03:30:43.500 really really great book highly recommended and cap and i i think do a good job of making it

03:30:47.840 entertaining as well uh everyone on this space everyone's reading everyone's reading wild shit

03:30:54.120 and making good content based off it yeah so uh i mean that's that's all i've got i've got a couple

03:30:59.040 books out you can find me on twitter at tr underscore hudson uh i don't really know how

03:31:04.480 to end podcasts so go ahead and cue the fraser

03:31:07.620 and maybe i seem a bit confused yeah maybe but i got you peg

03:31:19.440 But I don't know what to do with those tossed salads and scrambled eggs.

03:31:28.380 They're calling again.

03:31:31.480 Scrambled eggs all over my face.

Blood Satellite - February 14, 2025

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