Candace Owens - #1 Podcast Worldwide! Plus, Erika Kirk's Interview. ｜ Candace Ep 260

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention, please, because today is obviously a day of

00:00:06.580 celebration. Yes, in case you missed it, we officially have become the number one podcast

00:00:13.440 in the world, not in America. OK, not Europe. I am talking about in the world. And the haters

00:00:20.740 stay mad. Haters stay big mad on the Internet on X today. It is just crazy town. I mean,

00:00:28.220 Christian Zionist influencers are doing that thing where they attack me for telling the truth 0.98

00:00:33.280 about something. It's so strange. I don't even know how to react to it. I'm going to do my best

00:00:36.820 here. They're all weighing in and they're commenting and they're saying untrue about something that is

00:00:42.280 literally true. It's literally true. I lived it. It's such a strange thing. It's like they're trying

00:00:47.420 to wipe my own memory and wipe my own emails that I have. Of course, we are at first before we get

00:00:52.340 to them going to cover the top moments, top viral moments from the heavily anticipated interview

00:00:57.640 with Erica Kirk on Fox News with Jesse Watters. So let's get started.

00:01:16.540 OK, first things first, welcome to the number one podcast in the world. It's here. You are here.

00:01:21.960 We are all number one in the world. It's been trending on Twitter. It's been so exciting. Look

00:01:28.680 at this. I will never forget this moment. Candace Owens' podcast hits number one worldwide. Best part

00:01:34.820 without promotion, which means we have not spent since we started this podcast a year and a half ago,

00:01:40.740 a single dollar on advertising. OK, because we couldn't do it. We were a startup. I was fired.

00:01:46.840 Things were down. It was real bad. And yet we are the number one podcast in the world.

00:01:51.760 Grok summarizes it this way. I'm going to read it. Conservative commentator Candace Owens announced

00:01:57.200 on Thursday that her independent podcast, Candace, has reached the top global ranking according to

00:02:02.440 PodScribe data following her 2024 departure from The Daily Wire. She credits the organic growth to

00:02:09.220 criticism, legal challenges, including a defamation lawsuit from French President Emmanuel Macron

00:02:14.380 and First Lady Brigitte Macron and her small team's resilience. Owens attributes the milestone to

00:02:20.960 divine intervention amid ongoing media attacks. Fact checked. It's just true. All of it's very true.

00:02:28.300 I am so excited. I would like to thank everyone but the Academy because the Matrix hates me. I will

00:02:35.340 never win any more accolades, probably never be invited to a red carpet event. But that's OK because

00:02:43.280 I've never been happier. And there are so many people to thank. It is true. We must thank Brigitte

00:02:48.400 and Emmanuel Macron for that ill-advised lawsuit. Obviously, I feel like that ripped a hole in reality

00:02:56.220 and made things even more global than they already were. I'd like to thank Kanye West,

00:03:02.440 formerly Kanye West. He is now yay for the song Power because the song Power really made me recognize

00:03:08.840 that you have to stop listening to your haters. You also should recognize that you need the haters

00:03:13.860 to inspire you to keep going. When somebody tells you you can't be something or you must be something,

00:03:18.940 you have to stand up for yourself. You have to have the courage to say,

00:03:22.300 I know the crowd is doing this, but I'm not doing it. And that was me when I no longer wanted to do the

00:03:26.860 pro-Israel thing. Of course, as always, I thank Ben Shapiro. I thank Jeremy Boring. I thank the direction of

00:03:33.480 travel and they realizing it before I did that I should be fired. Thank you for firing me. But and

00:03:43.180 thank you for the publicity of the firing. Andrew Clavin, Christ is King. Thank you so much. You are

00:03:50.880 a hero in my book. Tucker Carlson. I don't know. I feel like I should thank you because a lot happened

00:03:55.860 because people thought that we were plotting behind the scenes and we never were. And thank you,

00:04:00.780 Tucker Carlson, for the weeks that I get off when the media is attacking you instead of me.

00:04:04.680 Now it's kind of together. It's Tucker Carlson and Cameron Soans. But thank you. I want to thank

00:04:08.460 Australia. We see you, Australia. Tony Burke, thank you for banning us from an entire country,

00:04:13.520 even though I didn't do nothing. I literally didn't do nothing, but I'm banned. And guess what?

00:04:19.020 You got to hear me anyways. Ha ha ha, Tony Burke. OK, but in reality, also, obviously,

00:04:25.080 thanking this incredible team. Very small. It has stayed small. There's just four of us

00:04:29.400 that work on the actual podcast every day. Savannah wearing a ton of hats, Chris in editing,

00:04:34.920 Mark mansplaining, and also being our director, Skylar, the producer who has to deal with my

00:04:39.940 insane text messages all through the night because my brain is running a million different ways.

00:04:44.300 It's just a really tiny little engine that keeps going. And so that's why we are actually resilient.

00:04:48.720 We do need to hire more people. And you guys still are not getting a window in there. I just want

00:04:53.080 to be clear. I don't want them to get too excited. There will never be any breathing room in the

00:04:56.180 control room. And yeah, obviously, it's been a tremendous year and mostly thankful to my husband

00:05:02.260 for figuring out how to operate an entire podcast business. I don't know how he does it. I don't

00:05:07.800 know how he deals with things. He doesn't have time to even watch the show. And he's just constantly

00:05:11.460 putting out fires. Could not have done this without all of you guys for letting me know. But it's okay

00:05:18.780 to just be honest. And it was definitely a trying year, realizing that especially now,

00:05:24.280 the conservatism thing, what is conservatism? The Republican Party is going through a moment.

00:05:29.920 I don't want to be tied down to the Republican Party. And I want to be able to say something

00:05:34.580 against Democrats and Republicans. And we're doing that. We're speaking truth. We're going

00:05:38.340 to continue to speak truth. And we're very excited today. And one of the things that we

00:05:42.240 are speaking truth about right now, and which my haters are like, it's because you're talking

00:05:46.220 about Charlie Kirk. You know, you guys change us every month. First, it was, oh, it's because

00:05:51.120 of the Brigitte Macron thing. Oh, it's because of the Kamala Chronicles. Oh, it's because of

00:05:55.380 the Blake Lively lawsuit. The common denominator here is me looking for truth. And I think people

00:06:01.560 are catching on to the fact that I'm sincerely looking for truth and I don't care what enemies

00:06:05.240 I make along the way. And obviously, I'm making a lot of enemies right now for some reason

00:06:09.720 looking into the Charlie Kirk assassination and the lies that we are being told. Anyways, let's

00:06:16.220 get into Erica Kirk. Obviously, it was a very anticipated interview. Look, I think we didn't

00:06:22.740 really know what we were going to get. I don't know why I thought it was going to be like

00:06:26.040 more about the investigation. And obviously, in retrospect, that's not what it was about

00:06:32.960 because it's Fox News and Fox News is not going to do this like heavy investigation. It was

00:06:37.300 kind of more giving her a platform to speak about how things have changed for her, how things

00:06:42.940 have changed for Turning Point USA, but it's like being at the helm of the organization.

00:06:48.420 What are her thoughts about what that organization is going to look like going forward? And he,

00:06:53.620 and I'm speaking about Jesse Waters, who hosted this discussion, also trailed her at the event

00:06:58.340 that she did with J.D. Vance at the University of Mississippi. Now, people around the world obviously

00:07:03.960 have been moved by Erica's commitment to her Christian faith, the strength, obviously, that it takes

00:07:11.420 for her to look after her kids, to look after herself, plus to steward this massive company,

00:07:17.720 all while she's grieving, right? And that's kind of one of the things that stood out the most to a

00:07:22.660 lot of people. But I would say the Christian message is what has resonated the most when she got up on

00:07:29.680 stage and she said that I forgive him pretty, pretty instantly. I mean, I don't think when was the

00:07:35.180 memorial event was only what, 10, 11 days after he was assassinated? I think it was even less,

00:07:39.460 maybe. It was like the 19th, nine days after he was assassinated. Oh, sorry, the 21st mansplained in

00:07:44.940 my ear. Thank you, Mark. So Jesse asked her about the harder moments that she has encountered

00:07:52.180 becoming a widow. And she shared that nighttime is the hardest. She also shared her experience

00:07:59.060 with the emotions of being a widow compared to the emotions that other widows may experience

00:08:07.000 when grappling with sudden loss. And here's what she had to say. Take a listen.

00:08:11.300 It's so easy

00:08:12.480 to be in a position of feeling regret when you lose someone you love.

00:08:19.420 And I tried to read a book by C.S. Lewis because he lost the love of his life. He was only married

00:08:28.780 to her for four years. I think it's called A Grief Observed. It was a very hard book to read.

00:08:38.420 Not because it was about grief, but because in the opening pages, he talked about how angry he was

00:08:44.280 with God. And I've never felt that. I'm not angry with God. Never have been. Never have I questioned

00:08:56.980 why, Lord, are you putting me through this? Why are you testing me? Why are you?

00:09:03.560 Because God is so good and he's so sovereign. And I know he uses everything, everything,

00:09:10.500 even what the enemy meant for evil. And I have no regrets.

00:09:20.880 So when I saw this moment, I was just thinking about myself and my, a lot of emotions and grieving

00:09:30.700 that I have experienced and all the emotions that I've shared with you guys and the anger that I have

00:09:35.000 felt. And I want to be very clear that I am not that example that she is giving. I could have never,

00:09:42.620 and I know that so many people agree with this, I could have never forgiven Tyler Robinson for

00:09:48.880 whatever part he played in this. And obviously I'm saying whatever part he played in this because I

00:09:52.080 don't believe that he was the lone person involved. I don't even think he's the person that killed

00:09:55.200 Charlie Kirk. But even if you believe all of those things, I never could have turned around and

00:10:00.040 forgiving him that quickly. Right. And I have not even processed. I definitely, when I prayed about

00:10:07.880 this, asked a ton of questions to God. And yeah, she is absolutely right in what she is saying. And

00:10:15.080 she is delivering to us what the biblical teaching is on these matters. But I could not, not feel that

00:10:25.120 way. And so I was questioning myself, listening, it's like, what is wrong with me? Like, well, actually,

00:10:28.920 what is wrong with me? Why am I not able to get to forgiveness? Why am I not able to, or why am I

00:10:35.660 rather questioning and asking why and why doing this to somebody so young? I mean, even my dad,

00:10:40.360 by the way, was so impacted. He met Charlie a couple of times, but he was so impacted by Charlie's

00:10:45.340 assassination that it made him go, I want to be, and my dad said this, like, I want to be a better

00:10:50.800 grandfather and a better father because I look at myself and I'm older and I haven't lived a life

00:10:55.300 anywhere near as admirable as Charlie has lived his life. This is, my dad literally said this to me

00:10:59.920 on the phone. And it makes me feel like, why him? Why did this happen to Charlie Kirk? And I just,

00:11:07.540 yeah, I don't know. That's kind of what I was thinking. I was going, wow, what is wrong with me

00:11:10.960 that I have felt all of those things that she is, has had the wisdom to just not go through that?

00:11:20.340 You know what I mean? Or not, or not, I guess I shouldn't say not go through that, but not fixate

00:11:23.660 on that. I couldn't today after everything that's happened to be like, I forgive Tyler Robbins. I

00:11:29.340 can't do it. I just can't do it. And I think maybe if I'm assessing myself and being hypercritical of

00:11:34.340 myself right now, it's because I cannot forgive until I know what happened. I don't know what I'm

00:11:41.140 forgiving actually until I know what happened. And this might move into what we're going to get into

00:11:45.380 later where she answers the question, we're going to get to it right now, actually, of whether or not

00:11:51.940 she believes that they have caught the true killer of Charlie Kirk, right? Do you believe that? The

00:11:57.720 person that we have in custody, is that the person that pulled the trigger? Is that the only person

00:12:03.020 that pulled the trigger? Anyways, I want you to hear it directly from her and not me recapping

00:12:06.920 what she said or reiterating it rather. It's gone viral because of what she didn't say,

00:12:13.480 to be honest with you. Take a listen. Do you think they've caught your husband's killer?

00:12:22.000 So something I'm so grateful for is that we have one of the most incredible teams for this case.

00:12:34.860 I would never wish it upon anybody to have to go through what we are going through.

00:12:40.740 To have seen the autopsy report, to have seen the different evidence portions that have been

00:12:51.040 collected. I trust our team.

00:12:56.020 So it's not a straight yes or no. And the implication could be that she trusts the team

00:13:04.200 to find more or to get answers or if this is not it to tell her what the true answers are. And I think

00:13:12.180 that's why this is going viable because they're going, OK, does she actually believe that Tyler

00:13:15.120 Robinson acted alone? And obviously, Jesse is not going to push her on that because it would have

00:13:19.960 probably felt more like an interrogation rather than just sitting down and speaking through some of

00:13:24.120 these topics that are probably hard to talk about in general. But I am hopeful that what she's

00:13:32.240 implying is that she trusts her team to do the due diligence. She says that she has seen the autopsy

00:13:37.700 report. She has seen certain things. Obviously, none of us have seen the autopsy report. And I don't

00:13:46.420 know. I didn't know what to make of that. Is she saying that there's more that's going to come out?

00:13:50.720 Is that kind of a foreshadowing that more is going to come out and things are going to be

00:13:55.260 clear? I hope so. I really do. Because in terms of what the public has seen so far, I would say

00:14:01.920 nothing has been convincing. And I'm trying to imagine what they would have that the public hasn't

00:14:08.220 seen that could be sort of a smoking gun. And in theory, it would be the footage. Right. Tyler Boyer

00:14:13.920 said we have footage in 4K, all of the stuff when he was tweeting. And similarly, not the university,

00:14:21.180 but somebody else was saying that, you know, at every angle, every area of the university is

00:14:25.180 covered. Their excuse for not showing the public was they didn't want it to in any way impact the

00:14:31.120 case. That has never made sense to me. That excuse has never made sense to me. In fact, I would

00:14:35.980 imagine that when there was a manhunt going on before you were even thinking about the case, but rather

00:14:40.220 thinking about keeping people safe, that would have been a good time to drop some clear footage

00:14:44.640 of the individual. But it's possible. It's possible they have actual clear footage of Tyler Robinson

00:14:52.080 jumping down onto the rooftop and firing the shot. That's all possible. And so we're just going to have

00:14:59.040 to wait and see on that. Now, I'm going to say personally and maybe even selfishly, probably

00:15:06.120 selfishly. Again, I'm fallen. I am very fallen, obviously. I was extremely excited that she

00:15:13.880 responded to the Catholic innuendo once and for all in her own way. Obviously, it was not a direct

00:15:19.320 question or anything. But two things happened here. One, you probably didn't catch, which is behind

00:15:26.480 Jesse and Erica as they're walking backstage at the University of Mississippi event that they

00:15:33.300 headlined. There was a priest. Look in the corner there. I know a priest caller when I see one.

00:15:41.440 Yep, that is the same priest that she took with her to the hospital when Charlie was shot.

00:15:45.480 And I don't know. I am maintaining that I think this may have been about more than the architecture.

00:15:52.840 And in case you are not there yet, in addition to that, the priest being caught behind the scenes

00:15:58.380 there, they traveled with Erica and she discusses Charlie's affinity for St. Michael. Take a listen.

00:16:07.080 When we first started dating, I asked him, I was like, why don't you wear a cross?

00:16:14.000 He's like, why? You say you're a Christian, but you don't wear a cross. He's like, I don't know.

00:16:17.880 I don't really. I'm not a jewelry guy. And I was like, I understand. So for his first birthday

00:16:21.240 present, I got him this cross. And then throughout time, I would always add different medals to it.

00:16:25.900 And so he always, he loved St. Michael. And so, yeah, every time he put this on, he just felt

00:16:34.660 like it was his, it was his armor.

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00:16:54.800 Are we done here, guys? He felt like St. Michael was his armor. Okay. Now, I wanted to point that

00:17:02.460 out because in retrospect, I get more and more just amazed and upset at how vicious and cruel and

00:17:09.560 unnecessary people are. Just all of the videos people made when I wasn't even mentioning it as

00:17:14.480 a big deal. I was doing a tribute video to Charlie and being like, we were all hoping that he was going

00:17:17.860 to take the step and become Catholic. Gave no details. And the next thing I knew, Operation

00:17:22.080 Christian Zionist Influencer was while I was in a state of trauma and grieving coming after me and

00:17:28.780 saying that it wasn't true. And I don't think any of them have made videos since clarifying that no

00:17:33.620 Candace seems to have been telling the truth because who cares about the truth when you can

00:17:37.480 just like dunk on Candace. But I thought that was a very natural way to kind of respond to it.

00:17:41.800 And, you know, she's probably not going to give us any more because she doesn't have to give us

00:17:44.340 any more. Like I said from the beginning, he didn't convert to Catholicism, but it's just kind of

00:17:48.660 okay for us to tell the truth about where he was at on his spiritual journey. I don't know why that's

00:17:53.760 a big deal at all, uh, outside of just hating Catholics, which is what I am receiving a lot

00:17:59.300 of that as. And there's just been so many lies that have been told, and we're going to get into

00:18:03.620 more of them later. And the frustration that I have with people who purport to care about Charlie,

00:18:08.740 why they peddle ridiculous, tiny lies doesn't make sense to me. Anyways, but keeping with Erica's

00:18:13.440 interview, she was asked directly, and this is probably the most viral moment from the sit down

00:18:19.900 about how she personally feels about the conspiracy theories that are circulating regarding his

00:18:26.220 murder. And here is her answer. There's other theories swirling around about Charlie's assassination.

00:18:33.460 Right. How does that make you feel? When everything happened, my phone died and became a black hole.

00:18:41.440 I just didn't turn it on for weeks on end. I've intentionally insulated myself

00:18:46.520 because I need to guard my heart and I need to be there for my kids and I need to be there for

00:18:54.080 Turning Point. And what I've realized through all of this is that everyone grieves differently.

00:18:59.360 Everyone is trying to figure out, and I don't blame them, how does this happen? How does somebody

00:19:07.020 become so radicalized where they can justify this in their own head? We just lost one of the greatest

00:19:14.040 voices of our generation. Why? How? What's behind it? Like, everyone's trying to process this.

00:19:21.920 And I respect that. But where my heart is just asking for some grace is for the ones who were

00:19:32.000 there that day. They have to relive that every single day. He didn't die in a car accident. He didn't die

00:19:41.720 from cancer. He was assassinated. And the difference between this and previous assassinations in this

00:19:52.520 country. There was no social media. There was no AI. I can't tell you how many fake images are out

00:19:58.520 there of all of this. And again, my only request is that just please pray and consider and think

00:20:10.200 about whatever you put online because it's going to impact his kids in the future. I don't want my

00:20:19.080 kids to go on the internet one day when they're older and see things that it's just we're all

00:20:25.880 trying to process this in their own way. And I appreciate that. But just some grace would be nice.

00:20:33.560 So I think it's a gracious answer. And I think it's a gracious request to, you know, assert first and

00:20:38.920 foremost that people are doing this because they care and they care about Charlie. And also this was a

00:20:43.120 traumatic event that the entire world experienced. And also the reason why the internet is investigating

00:20:48.380 is because the feds aren't. And not only are they not investigating, they're telling some pretty

00:20:53.240 obvious lies, right? Number one being that he was shot by a .30-06 and stopped the bullet

00:20:59.020 when in a normal circumstance it would have decapitated him. Like a .30-06 would decapitate

00:21:03.900 someone. And because they've been so ridiculous and then gaslighting us by being like you're 0.99

00:21:09.060 dishonoring Charlie's legacy, people are digging their feet in the ground because it just disrupts 0.91

00:21:14.980 us spiritually to watch something like that and then be told like nothing to see here.

00:21:20.600 Now here's what I will say about her request to consider the people that were there that day.

00:21:26.140 The people that were there that day experienced a trauma because they watched Charlie Kirk die.

00:21:32.840 Or maybe they didn't see him die. Maybe watch him get shot. Heard the shot. Who knows what the

00:21:35.960 exact specs are. This is where it's going to be really hard for Erica to be a CEO and to be somebody 1.00

00:21:44.760 who is a widow at the same time, right? Because the messaging that is coming out of Turning Point

00:21:50.520 USA, so this is Erica and her CEO and her chairman capacity, has just been unacceptable, right? It 0.99

00:21:56.400 can't be both. It can't be, okay, everybody, we're going to keep going and, you know, Mikey's going to

00:22:02.580 take over for Charlie at his Liberty event that he has, which is going to be sold out.

00:22:08.760 And Turning Point USA people who are directors of faith are going to be telling you like,

00:22:13.180 Mikey's got what it takes. Here's what you're like, blah, blah, blah. And then Mikey's going

00:22:16.320 to tell stories about that day, go on his show multiple times. Andrew's going to talk about it.

00:22:20.740 Everyone's going to talk about it. And they don't want to talk about the stuff that we care about.

00:22:24.280 Like, this is what it means to have a podcast, right? You can't want fame only on your command.

00:22:30.120 This is kind of the Meghan Markle thing, right, that we talk about. And I'm calling this to Mikey

00:22:35.080 McCoy. It's like everybody wants to be famous until you're famous, okay? It's we want privacy

00:22:41.100 now. Well, it doesn't actually work that way. You don't get to be like, I want to marry you

00:22:45.720 and I want to be a princess and then become a princess. You're like, well, I don't want

00:22:50.200 to be a princess, right? It's kind of, you got to pick one or the other. So if there were

00:22:56.220 Turning Point individuals who were so traumatized that day and they needed to go away, I mean,

00:23:01.680 I had to go away for two weeks to collect my thoughts about the trauma that I saw having

00:23:04.920 watched it. A lot of people I know that had to take breaks. I had to take the show off

00:23:07.640 the air for a couple of days and they just, you know, needed time to process. It'd be a

00:23:12.580 little bit different. Actually, it almost came across like they needed zero time to process

00:23:18.140 and they were kind of annoyed that the world needed time to process. And then the things

00:23:22.680 they were telling us were lies. We were able to factually debunk things that we were being

00:23:30.160 told. And then you've got people like Tyler, who's featured in this, Tyler Boyer, who I

00:23:35.600 like, you're the chairman and the CEO. Tyler Boyer is a sexual deviant, right? Why do we 0.98

00:23:41.860 have to like give, because he was at the hospital, give him grace? But it's like, no, this is the

00:23:46.520 company. This is now what's at the head of the company. Charlie's not there. We want to make

00:23:51.680 sure that this company is going to be committed to truth. We want to make sure this company

00:23:55.940 is not going to be telling us that we can't care about this or not be focused on that because

00:24:01.220 we need to decide whether this is still the same company. That's what it means, right?

00:24:04.680 Is this still the same company? And so I think with the McCoy thing, everyone wanted a stage

00:24:11.000 until you got a stage, okay? And people started going lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, right? Case in

00:24:15.720 point, Alex Clark wanted to do the Wall Street Journal thing until I caught like this little

00:24:20.480 lie. And it's like, what are you saying this thing about Catholics? That's not true. Okay?

00:24:26.080 Take the stage or don't take the stage, but it can't be in between. And then suddenly when

00:24:29.800 the public turns against you, I don't want a stage anymore. That would be my response to

00:24:34.640 that. And I do not have any sympathy for Rob McCoy. I have no sympathy for Mikey McCoy.

00:24:38.860 I have no sympathy for Tyler Boyer. I think telling the truth is a very easy thing to do

00:24:49.300 when you have a microphone. And if you don't want to tell the truth, it just makes you look

00:24:55.380 more suspicious. And I can give you an example of that. There was some kid who was wearing green

00:25:00.420 at this UVU event, right? They looked kind of shady. There was a ton of rumors. We got a bunch

00:25:06.640 of emails, but I never covered it on the show because I didn't think there was anything beyond

00:25:10.720 the fact that he looked kind of shady in a green hoodie. And I think it was yesterday,

00:25:15.580 Sam Parker was like, who are these guys? And I can't get a clear image of this person.

00:25:20.140 I then respond to him like, here's a clear image of this person. The actual person wearing the green

00:25:25.860 hoodie then responds very quickly. He's like, that's me. Sorry, I dress weird. I think he's on

00:25:31.100 the soccer team at UVU. And that's it. It's over. And nobody is talking about the green hoodie. Here

00:25:38.360 he is, Colby Sessions. Hey, guys, this is me. My teammate and I were just on campus to get food and

00:25:43.380 stop by the event. We always wear silly stuff like that. Sorry, guys. That's it. How easy,

00:25:48.800 right? How easy? He's not like, I'm a victim. Call a lawyer. I can't believe somebody asked a

00:25:53.440 question. I can't believe there's interest in this event where an assassination took place.

00:25:58.720 No, people are asking because they're well-meaning and he just comes right back and answers it and

00:26:04.380 it's over. That's how easy, that's how quick, that's how painless it is when you simply tell

00:26:09.680 the truth. And I just don't feel that anything that's been easy to clarify has been done. And

00:26:16.560 it can't be because they're in a state of mourning because they were like back on their feet the next

00:26:21.720 day and giddy and sharing memories and talking about what happened on that day in detail. So except for

00:26:28.280 the parts that we want to know about, I don't know, it doesn't work for me. Anyways, if you guys want

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00:29:30.320 I had with Allie Beth Stuckey online. I'll start actually by saying some nice things about Allie Beth

00:29:35.640 Stuckey because one of the things that I am working on is being a lot more measured when

00:29:40.660 I'm ticked off about something, and I realize that this particular subject is just—I just

00:29:46.720 instantly want to go claws out. And there's a lot of great things about Allie Stuckey. I've

00:29:50.880 actually worked with Allie Stuckey at various events. I've spoken with Allie Stuckey. She's

00:29:56.480 been on my podcast multiple times. She's been a panelist back when I was on The Daily Wire.

00:30:00.480 I'm referring to—she debated my husband. Before I was Catholic, they had a very good

00:30:04.340 sit-down, and she's always been very kind. She—behind the scenes, I will always tell

00:30:08.260 you guys if there's tea, there actually isn't any on Allie Stuckey. She's always been a very 0.99

00:30:13.140 lovely person, and especially because when I was first coming into the industry and people

00:30:18.380 were dunking on me for all sorts of things, she actually, like, hosted me on her show and

00:30:22.360 had a conversation rather than just kind of joining the choir. So, yeah, I am not addressing

00:30:28.920 this because Allie is a bad human being. I'm addressing this because she has been addressing 0.99

00:30:36.620 me, actually, subtly, subtweeting these sorts of things. And I feel like it's fair that when

00:30:43.300 people engage in that sort of behavior that I get to respond. Somehow, people are allowed

00:30:47.220 to talk about me, and then when I respond, some people will suddenly be like, I stand with

00:30:51.140 so-and-so. I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm just answering someone. For me, this

00:30:56.300 topic, Charlie Kirk, who murdered him, there isn't a single topic in politics that is

00:31:01.520 happening on this planet that I care more about, okay? It is the killing of Charlie Kirk

00:31:05.900 and nothing else for me. And in the aftermath of his assassination, people were downright

00:31:11.740 nasty to me. You saw that. It was definitively not organic. It was this weird need to assert

00:31:17.440 his legacy as a Christian Zionist. By the way, I'm not including Allie in the downright nasty 1.00

00:31:23.140 category whatsoever. But she was one of the voices who cast unnecessary shade, I would

00:31:28.760 say, on my account of him becoming Catholic curious. And it was unnecessary, I would say,

00:31:33.320 only because she could have texted me. She has my number. This is one of the things that

00:31:36.920 Matt Walsh recently said, that he views it as such a form of disloyalty. When you have

00:31:43.020 access to an individual, but you will instead go onto your platform to say something about that

00:31:47.280 individual when you could ask for clarity, right? She could have messaged me and say,

00:31:50.180 hey, I've never heard anything about Charlie being interested in Catholicism. And I would 0.96

00:31:55.860 have said to her, hey, privately, yeah, he was going to mass sometimes daily. He was going on

00:32:00.400 Sundays. He died with the pendant. But that didn't happen. Anyways, she's asserted that she's a friend

00:32:05.120 of Charlie Kirk. She certainly has worked with Charlie Kirk for years. All that is true. We are natural

00:32:10.060 allies because we are committed to wanting there to be justice and genuinely are both upset by Charlie

00:32:18.000 being no longer here, not seeing where Charlie was supposed to go in his life, having his life cut

00:32:23.620 short in the most traumatic terms possible. But it feels to me that there are some people who only

00:32:32.420 want to use their platforms to dispel something that I am saying that they think is untrue, even when

00:32:39.760 I present proof that it is true. And an example of that is this morning. So yesterday, I said to you

00:32:45.700 guys, as a person who worked at Turning Point USA, who toured with Charlie the most, okay, there's a

00:32:52.500 single person who can say, I headlined more Turning Point USA campus tours than Candace Owens. I know

00:33:02.000 what I'm talking about, right? It's a very strange thing to not know what the inner workings are and to

00:33:08.820 then accuse somebody who shows an email, as I did yesterday, that these events are booked

00:33:14.820 the semester before, okay? There's a long waiting list. Everybody wants Charlie or Candace, whoever it

00:33:22.820 is, Don Jr., to come to their campus. And they make those requests early, the Turning Point chapters.

00:33:27.620 They have so many of them. And so they are constantly running behind on those requests. And it's a very long

00:33:33.840 process because the administrations at these campuses naturally hate Turning Point USA in

00:33:39.940 particular because Charlie started the organization to disrupt college campuses. So they give these kids

00:33:47.180 a very hard time over everything. When I tell you a hard time, when Charlie and I were speaking at

00:33:52.600 Stanford, the girl who put, the student who put the event together, her grandfather owned one of the

00:33:57.860 buildings at Stanford. Like her name was on one of the buildings at Stanford University. And they still

00:34:03.380 gave her a hard time pulling this event together, right? It doesn't matter. It's more the sentiment

00:34:07.280 of who you are as a political person and as a political organization. And they will try to stop

00:34:12.460 you. And that is why it is strange, as in it has never happened while I toured for eight, nine semesters,

00:34:21.340 eight, 2019, summer, eight semesters with Charlie, like in a row. It's never happened that a college

00:34:30.820 makes a request over the summer when school is closed because it was, okay, at the end of July,

00:34:37.200 school was not in session. And then it gets honored by Turning Point USA immediately. And then it's on

00:34:42.840 the calendar. Could you imagine the university getting that email? They already hate Charlie Kirk

00:34:46.760 and they're going to honor it and be like, not only do we want to honor this, we'll give you the first

00:34:51.000 week back to school. Like that's what they're telling us. And it doesn't make any sense. And I pointed

00:34:55.140 that out and I showed proof of that. What are you disagreeing with actually? Like when you jump into

00:34:59.560 this, what is motivating your disagreement would be my question. I will read her tweets and then I

00:35:04.860 will respond to them. So she does a total false debunking by sharing a private message exchange 1.00

00:35:13.040 between her and Charlie. This is what she tweeted. She said the latest claim is that TPUSA must have been

00:35:18.520 in on Charlie's murder because the UVU campus stop was approved in July. It was not approved in July.

00:35:25.920 It was requested in July. And that's too short of a timeline for an event in September. That is not

00:35:32.220 true. Charlie texted me at the end of August for a campus event in early November. That's about two

00:35:38.340 months out. And the reason he didn't specify which campus is because he didn't even know yet. He just

00:35:43.620 knew it was going to be in Alabama. So yes, it does seem like part of this year's campus tour

00:35:48.500 was being put together at the last minute and UVU being booked over the summer isn't actually

00:35:53.360 unusual. Hey, would love to have you join us on campus on November 3rd. What does this prove?

00:36:02.320 It proves that Charlie invited her to join him on campus on November 3rd. If he is giving you

00:36:09.660 multiple locations, and I'm telling you this as someone who did that, I worked for this organization,

00:36:14.240 Allie. Okay. It's probably because these are the organ. This is already approved. They're doing

00:36:20.340 these campuses already. He's asking you which one to choose. Many times these students will be told

00:36:25.360 to hold two dates, two dates that can possibly work, and they're going to get back to them and confirm

00:36:30.680 and see who's available. They did not start planning that event when Charlie texted you. I can guarantee

00:36:36.680 you that. Okay. They did not receive a request from those campuses on that day. It's an absurdity.

00:36:43.660 I don't even know what we're debating. She then follows it up, and she says this. Since some of

00:36:49.740 you guys are struggling, some people pointed out that's not what Candace said. It's a request that

00:36:53.760 went from UVU chapter to Turning Point USA. She says that some of you guys are struggling. No venue yet

00:37:00.060 two months out. There's clearly a venue because Charlie is saying in this chat,

00:37:05.380 it's November 3rd at, Mikey McCoy, actually, November 3rd at 6.30 PM, either Auburn, which has

00:37:13.340 5,000 seats, or the University of Southern Alabama. Now, I told you that Charlie and I would divide and

00:37:19.300 conquer, so there'd be multiple events going on at the same day. Charlie would headline one. I would

00:37:22.760 headline the other. I will guarantee you, and I checked, they did both of these this semester because

00:37:27.360 that's how it works, okay? He's asking you which one you want to join. They might both be holding

00:37:32.600 the auditoriums that they need to, but this was not being planned when they messaged you. They

00:37:37.480 didn't receive the request the day that they messaged you and say, hey, do you want to make

00:37:40.160 this happen? I don't know what we're doing here. I don't know what the nature of this is.

00:37:45.900 Then you get Lila Rose, who jumps in for no reason at all, other than the fact that she's a 1.00

00:37:51.260 committed Christian Zionist, and she says something that's so far off the mark. At least Ali's showing 1.00

00:37:55.720 something relevant to Turning Point USA, even though she maybe didn't watch what I said or she's

00:37:59.720 confused about what the conversation was. It's well-meaning, okay? Lila Rose just comes out of left 0.89

00:38:05.420 field with like, we're talking about apples and here's an orange. I speak regularly on college

00:38:11.480 campuses as well. She starts with, this is not true. This is not true. What is not true? I showed

00:38:16.340 the email. What is not true? I speak regularly at college campuses as well. As one example, I was just

00:38:22.800 asked to speak at Stanford and they were going to set the event up within three weeks.

00:38:28.900 It didn't happen. It didn't materialize. They asked you to speak. What's the context? How many

00:38:34.880 students? And then she goes on and she gives an example. When I debated a few weeks ago at Yale,

00:38:39.540 the event was also planned within two months. Okay. So this is what happens when the chief debater,

00:38:45.600 Charlie Kirk, is murdered. We're left with this, the people who can't think through the apples and

00:38:48.800 oranges. Lila, I am sure that if Taylor Swift tweets that it took her team a year to put together

00:38:56.520 her tour, I'm not going to respond and be like, this is not true. I toured Taylor Swift at campus

00:39:03.700 events and we were able to pull the event together in six months. Apples, oranges. So that Yale event

00:39:10.680 that Lila Rose spoke at was with the Yale political union. So it is, it's existed since 1934.

00:39:18.420 It runs like a well-oiled machine. I've spoken at the Oxford union. They speak in the same place at

00:39:23.460 the same time. They change the people that are speaking. You sit down with them. You have a dinner.

00:39:27.840 This is Oxford again, not Yale. I've not spoken at Yale. You have a dinner and you debate somebody.

00:39:32.620 Okay. It's a debate union. It's what they do and what they've been doing since 1934.

00:39:36.960 Lila had, and here's a picture of it. She's comparing this, 70 people that attended this

00:39:44.140 debate to Turning Point USA, hosting a debate with thousands of people, sometimes a vice president,

00:39:50.080 sometimes a president. Like you, what are you debating? What are you actually, like when you

00:39:55.160 pause and you think through, what are you debating me on? If you are going to dispute me, simply show me

00:40:02.300 the information of somebody making a request and having it instantly be honored at Turning Point USA,

00:40:09.280 which runs like a machine. Absolutely. But these events are big. Okay. Ambulances are required. The

00:40:16.360 university has to tell you, okay, well, if you've got 1500 people, then this is the state law. They have

00:40:22.720 to confirm they're available. This is the insurance that has to be, but blah, blah, blah, blah. Not the same

00:40:27.940 thing, Lila, when you are debating an older woman regarding abortion in a political union. Okay. 0.74

00:40:35.780 It's just not the same. So again, I ask, what is their investment that they are coming undone about

00:40:41.700 me telling the truth? Because now I have to take the time and be queen petty and go through every

00:40:47.220 single year dating back to 2018 to tell you when they got the events together. Cause I can do that.

00:40:51.940 I can do every semester from 2018 until 2024. What's the point here? I'm going to do it.

00:40:59.080 Savannah, I'm sorry. We have to do this, but what are you, what are the, what's the point of

00:41:04.020 disputing something and saying something is not true when I just told you it's true and I showed

00:41:08.240 you evidence that it's true. You're not even saying you're just, you're just lying actually at that

00:41:13.840 point. You're being extremely dishonest at the very least to make a video and say he's not becoming

00:41:20.420 Catholic. That's not, he was a committed evangelical. Say, I don't know. Just say, I don't know. Why are

00:41:24.800 you making these videos? I actually do know. And I am sharing information that I know because we

00:41:31.040 deserve answers when there are strange anomalies. Now, is it possible that somebody knew somebody

00:41:37.920 and made a phone call and made it happen? Yeah. But we, the public around the world who don't trust

00:41:43.620 what we are being told would like to know who that somebody was that made that event come together

00:41:48.660 very quickly, faster than I've ever seen an event come together, given how universities act

00:41:53.400 with hostility toward conservative groups that host a lot of people, which is what Charlie was,

00:42:00.620 who Charlie was as a person. He was somebody that was met with hostility by administrations when he

00:42:05.220 went there. Okay. Because it meant there were going to be protests. They will burn you in effigy as they

00:42:10.040 did to Michael Knowles at a Turning Point USA event. There has to be certain parameters that are set

00:42:16.640 to allow these particular events to happen. But I appreciate you sharing your experience.

00:42:22.380 And the next time Taylor Swift tweets about her experience, I'm going to just be like,

00:42:26.180 not true. Not true. Taylor Swift is like, I, you know, I can't walk into the mall.

00:42:30.800 I'm going to be like, me neither. That's not true. I walked in. No fans ran up at me,

00:42:35.020 Taylor Swift. So obviously Taylor Swift's lying because it didn't happen to me. It doesn't,

00:42:41.260 as Justin Bieber says, it's just, it's not clocking for us, man.

00:42:43.720 Um, anyways, it is weird to me also that when you look at what they focus on, it seems so petty,

00:42:49.960 but then they look over all of the glaringly obvious lies that were being told about this

00:42:55.060 investigation. Like they're not making videos going, Oh, Hey, yeah. Um, spoke to like 10 hunters

00:42:59.480 and a 30 odd six should have decapitated him. They don't care about any of that stuff. So are you 0.51

00:43:05.180 doing this because you care about Charlie? Are you doing this because you care about the investigation?

00:43:09.020 Because if you're going to investigate, investigate. Okay. Send me a text message and ask me a specific

00:43:13.400 question and say, where'd you give us information from? Join the team of people online who I never

00:43:19.320 knew before this, who are investigating this murder and using sources. Do that either join us or get

00:43:24.380 out of our way is what I would say. Because if you're not going to make a video or you are going

00:43:28.140 to make a video about a glaring obvious hole and then just poo poo it, which is kind of what

00:43:33.080 Allie did regarding the fed discord messages. I've watched a clip. She like softens it and says,

00:43:38.560 well, even if these are written by the feds, I still think he was murdered by Tyler Robinson.

00:43:44.400 Okay. So you're willing to what give grace to the feds when there may be lying,

00:43:49.480 but you, you can't assume that I'm telling the truth about my experience, having worked with an

00:43:53.960 organization and the actual evidence that I have to back up what I'm saying. You, you have no grace on

00:43:59.940 the matter of whether or not he might've been getting curious about Catholicism is the goal

00:44:04.420 to tell the truth. Okay. Why aren't you guys doing shows? If you're so interested in debunking lies,

00:44:10.020 have you done a show about Josh Hammer? When we drop a text messages, did you do a show and go,

00:44:13.820 wow, Josh Hammer really lied about Charlie Kirk's mindset? Because it's starting to feel a little bit

00:44:20.240 like propaganda. And it's the worst type of propaganda to me when you cage it as like Christian 1.00

00:44:25.180 shouldn't or Christian should. I'm investigating this. I care about it. And it is my perspective 1.00

00:44:31.220 that if you're in my way, I'm just going to breathe fire and expose the truth. When I say

00:44:36.480 breathe fire, it just means showing the truth, showing more truth. I'm going to pull up, like I

00:44:41.140 said, every email so that there is no debate or dispute about how long it takes for these events

00:44:46.120 to go together. Okay. Um, yeah, that's that. I don't, I don't love the crickets of these,

00:44:51.560 of these things. Also, I will also mention that Ali has strangely hired Alyssa Cordova.

00:44:58.700 And this is just not a match for me. Alyssa Cordova was formerly the PR person, head PR person

00:45:03.820 at Daily Wire. And when I tell you that this woman is evil, it's hard to put into words the things 0.75

00:45:08.500 that she has put people through and she does it for the sport of it. Like she's one of these people

00:45:12.780 that keeps a folder on her desk and she intentionally has out of context clips, which she then sends to 0.99

00:45:18.280 people, um, a whole little orbit of bees online, like Ian Miles Chong, who's like a despicable human

00:45:24.340 being and says like, attack this person. And she'll do this by the way, even if you're, if you're

00:45:29.560 working with her, like she will undercut you and do these sorts of things. And so when I see this

00:45:34.900 kind of turn and I see that Alyssa Cordova is working with you, I'm wondering if this is just kind

00:45:40.700 of like Zionist nastiness. I think I've been extremely gracious, um, to the different perspectives 1.00

00:45:47.180 that we have. If we are all committed to truth, we are obviously, um, able to debate and I'm happy

00:45:53.060 by the way, I'll add this as well to have Ali or Lila Rose on this show tomorrow. If you guys would

00:45:59.440 like to, to debate what I have presented thus far, in addition to me telling you how Turning Point USA

00:46:06.540 operates their events, I'm happy to do that and bring the evidence of what I'm saying. Uh, that always

00:46:11.360 stands open. You will have a platform. If you are committed to truth, my platform is your platform.

00:46:16.000 Now, speaking of, um, PR and people who should maybe get into it, Alex Clark needs a raise. I

00:46:24.000 don't even know what she's doing over at Turning Point USA. This gets back into, uh, you know,

00:46:28.660 Erica Kirk as the CEO. People are, we watched her lie. Okay. We watched her lie about the Catholic

00:46:34.100 thing. We're supposed to just feel good about that and think that she's traumatized, but she wasn't

00:46:38.620 traumatized when she like wore boots and stood outside for Wall Street Journal to click a picture of

00:46:43.900 her a couple of days after Charlie died. I don't know. It feels like she was good and she's a star

00:46:49.100 now and tried to hard launch her podcast. She actually tweeted a couple of things the last

00:46:53.920 couple of days, um, dripping with anger towards people that are asking meaningful questions.

00:46:59.140 Here's one thing she wrote. Let me tell you something about Mikey. He's a mate. Just kidding.

00:47:03.640 She didn't say that. I'm one of the longest tenured employees now at the organization and Mikey has a

00:47:08.740 servant's heart. If ever I've seen one, you know why he went to Korea and Japan? Because my boss,

00:47:14.040 our direct, our productions director, who is the father of six children asked him to, he is always

00:47:19.880 traveling with me a good portion of it. And he missed his kids and he asked Mikey to please go and film

00:47:24.920 instead. Okay. I'm just going to say, I, I, I think he probably went to Japan and Korea because it's an 0.99

00:47:34.500 awesome opportunity. I don't know. I'm just a person who's been around a lot. And if I said, Hey, do you

00:47:39.580 guys want to go to Japan? Hip hip hooray. It's amazing. It's not, it's not exactly, you know, going

00:47:45.720 to build a house. Um, what is it? A house for habitat, habitat houses, whatever it's called house

00:47:51.580 for habitat in the middle of like the jungle or something like that. It's, I think this is a pretty

00:47:56.760 exciting opportunity. And so I don't understand why we just can't get basic answers about Mikey

00:48:02.500 McCoy, uh, that would allow us to just move on from how we are feeling about his behavior,

00:48:07.480 following things and the things that were said about him, following things, which make us feel

00:48:10.700 like they were priming him to take over, uh, for Charlie. And we heard these things from his father.

00:48:16.400 We heard of these things from people at turning point USA. And if you're looking for a fact,

00:48:21.000 he took over for Charlie, who was slated to speak at Liberty university. Okay. That's just a fact.

00:48:27.980 Alex Clark also through shaded us. And it's kind of incredible that she said this working for

00:48:32.180 turning point USA. Here's what she wrote. Oh, on every podcast tribute episode I did about Charlie,

00:48:38.140 I did not run my ad sponsorships, my directive and choice to my team. We are now in debt to my

00:48:44.380 sponsors. I didn't care. It felt like the right thing to do. Okay. So turning point made something

00:48:51.840 like $90 million in the couple of weeks following Charlie's death. I think I first heard it was 70

00:48:58.960 million. It's gone up since then. They were selling like t-shirts at the memorial event,

00:49:04.600 like freedom, Charlie t-shirts. They were selling products. And, uh, she is, I guess,

00:49:11.140 trying to imply that me speaking about his death and running ads is problematic. Now, first and

00:49:16.320 foremost, on our tribute episode, we ran absolutely zero ads. We didn't even let YouTube run ads on

00:49:21.300 that episode. So this is not a tribute episode. This is my podcast and we're investigating this

00:49:24.740 murder. And every person who is doing podcasts, whether it's Ali, uh, speaking about his Catholic 0.68

00:49:31.320 journey, Lila, speaking about what happens, whether they're whatever context they're putting it into,

00:49:36.020 whether it's PBD and his team, which spoke a lot about, uh, Charlie Kirk after he died. Why are you

00:49:41.540 looking at me as being the person who's reading my ads? What are you pretending you made some huge

00:49:47.120 sacrifice? Because for a couple of episodes, you didn't run ads. This is what I mean. There was just

00:49:52.600 so much, um, inauthenticity coming out of this company right now. I'm such a good person. Look

00:49:59.240 at me. Like I didn't read ads on two of my episodes, but I did do this wall street journal

00:50:05.040 thing and try to hard launch my podcast. Um, a couple of days after he died, but look at, look at me.

00:50:10.440 I, I declined to do what was the total amount that you postponed by the way, because you didn't

00:50:16.880 decline it. You postponed having to read ads and said that you made them up later. It's just,

00:50:21.680 there's, there's something that really bothers me about this. You know, they're angry at people

00:50:27.260 who are investigating Charlie's death and catching them in lies. That's why she's mad. She's mad

00:50:34.740 because she lied about me on her podcast and I called it out. Okay. If you don't lie on me,

00:50:43.200 I won't have to call it out. If you don't tell lies about things that took place, uh, about things that

00:50:48.820 were happening at turning point USA at the reason why Charlie wanted a doge as she did. 0.88

00:50:55.620 Oh, we do this every, no, you don't do a doge every year. You want to know how I know that?

00:51:00.100 Because doge didn't exist before Elon Musk. So it's like, what are you saying? They want us to

00:51:06.020 pretend we're really dumb and it's emotionally manipulative for them to be like, that's how you 0.97

00:51:14.280 honor Charlie. Pretend to be an idiot. Pretend to not know how accounts work. Pretend to not know 1.00

00:51:20.300 what it means when we say certain things and then change our stories multiple times. Pretend

00:51:26.940 like it's just beyond the pale that Candace would suggest that we're engaging in a coverup.

00:51:34.140 Yes, I did say that. I didn't say that Mikey murdered Charlie Kirk. I said turning point is

00:51:40.400 engaged in a coverup because that is literally the only reason that people lie. Anytime you lie,

00:51:48.900 it's because you're covering up the truth. You're engaging in a coverup, even if it's a white lie.

00:51:53.880 Even if I say, you know, I'm trying to surprise a friend for a birthday party and I tell her,

00:52:00.740 I'm the only one that's going to be there. Meet me here. It's a lie because I'm covering up a certain

00:52:05.000 truth, right? That is what lies are for. There is no other reason to lie unless you're covering

00:52:13.120 something up. So you, when you lied about the Catholicism thing, it wasn't because you murdered 0.60

00:52:18.060 Charlie Kirk, Alex. It was because likely you guys were more concerned with your Christian Zionist

00:52:25.360 donors and also pressure from your Jewish donors. And so you just lied to cover up the truth about

00:52:31.580 where Charlie was at. Turning point USA is telling a lot of lies. They're engaged in a coverup.

00:52:37.720 I said it. I am putting my name on that. I would not be apologizing for what I said.

00:52:42.120 Come forth with the truth or don't. Okay. And if you don't, we're just going to keep investigating

00:52:46.300 and see how you feel about it. Take a quick break and I'll get to some of your comments.

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00:54:53.100 By the way, I do want to say this. Whenever they send all the dogs out about something very

00:54:57.540 relatively minor, like me saying that this event came together too quickly, there's something there.

00:55:03.540 Like we now need to figure out exactly who put this event together because I just feel like money

00:55:08.600 is being spent for everyone to freak out about something so minor. That just tends to be the pattern,

00:55:12.920 like I was saying about the Egyptian planes. When they overreact, it's because we hit a nerve. 0.82

00:55:17.180 And so we should focus our attention on how that event came together. If you work for the UVU

00:55:22.540 Turning Point USA chapter and you would like to come forward, please email us at moretipsatcandiceowens.com

00:55:28.960 and let us know how that event came together, who requested it specifically.

00:55:33.520 I've got a feeling about that. We're close because they're even talking about lawyers. I mean,

00:55:37.220 Alyssa Cordova, this PR girl actually wrote this. If we could pull up that tweet.

00:55:44.260 I hope you're, no, no, the other one where she says, did you pull her other tweet where she's like,

00:55:48.180 I don't know the inner workings at Turning Point USA, but here it is. I don't have direct knowledge,

00:55:53.220 but I assume there are non-disparagement agreements in place between Turning Point

00:55:56.620 and Candace Owens because of TPUSA's business arrangement with Blexit. Weird that she knows that 1.00

00:56:01.740 we have a business arrangement with Blexit, but she's saying that and it's kind of like dangling,

00:56:06.000 like, we could sue you. Sue me. Sue me. I want subpoena power. I want all of your messages.

00:56:12.420 Please do me a favor today on the Charlie Kirk case. I've been clear. I want all of the smoke

00:56:21.300 from all of you. I don't think you realize how real life this is for me. I went back and it was

00:56:26.440 so hard. I was like, girl, don't care at all. Do not care at all. I'm over it. We're in a new time.

00:56:33.160 It literally is God time, okay? All of this stuff, and that's how she operates, by the way.

00:56:38.500 She can treat you really evil, but there's an NDA preventing you, so you've got to allow her to

00:56:42.260 abuse you. We're not doing this anymore, Alyssa. We're not doing this anymore. Whatever company

00:56:47.440 needs to hear this today, okay? You are no longer allowed to engage in sheer evil. You are no longer

00:56:54.580 allowed to behave like Satan's children and then make little legal threats, okay? Anything that gets

00:57:00.120 sent to me from a lawyer is now publicized. That's it. Don't care who you are. If you're

00:57:04.220 watching this and you're going, should I scream record this and send it to a lawyer? You probably

00:57:07.240 should. Anything that you send to me is now public. Satan's time is done. It's done, okay?

00:57:15.320 Shouldn't have shot Charlie Kirk. Just shouldn't have killed Charlie Kirk. That's what I would say.

00:57:19.600 Anyways, top comment from yesterday was somewhere Brigitte McCrone is breathing a sigh of relief.

00:57:25.060 I don't know, man. Now that the podcast has gone, number one, people are going to go back and watch

00:57:29.360 the Brigitte McCrone series. And once you watch it, you just know. You're like, she's a dude,

00:57:34.420 obviously. Such a bizarre thing. Like, the media's been lying about that. It's like a really big

00:57:39.460 secret. It's like it's the elephant in the room. Dinesh D'Souza, by the way, added this on X. He wrote,

00:57:47.080 at this point, anyone who follows this freak show is doing it for the entertainment.

00:57:50.980 This is not political commentary. It's midget bowling. Why does he always write weird stuff? 0.87

00:57:57.580 Hard to watch, but hard to look away from because there's a midget flying down the aisle heading 1.00

00:58:03.260 for pins. Dinesh, where are you seeing all this stuff? Before he made the reference to a goat

00:58:08.400 having sex with a human and he keeps using these weird analogies like, I just think they got to look 0.57

00:58:15.200 at his hard drive. I'm going to call the FBI. I'm going to call the FBI. I'm going to call Cash 0.85

00:58:20.720 Patel if he's done crying about the mean tweets on the internet for his girlfriend. And I'm going to

00:58:26.360 call the FBI. Anyways, going back into some of your comments, we have, just keep in faith rights.

00:58:32.200 When you said you are the number one podcast in the world, it brought a tear to my eye,

00:58:35.260 but I knew that. I mean, I didn't know, no, but I knew. Honestly, it brought a tear to my eye when

00:58:40.020 I found out because we've just been fighting and we don't look up and look at the stats and

00:58:44.280 follow the stats every day. And we obviously knew that we had become in like the top three podcasts

00:58:51.460 pretty quickly in the United States. But when you're fighting and you're building and you're

00:58:56.480 constantly under pressure, you're constantly in a pressure cooker, it's kind of difficult to find

00:59:01.700 a moment to peak your head up and to celebrate anything. And that really felt like this moment.

00:59:06.680 So it was very, very excited. Thank you guys so much for supporting us and allowing us to be

00:59:11.340 truly independent. Michael Reese writes, from East Tennessee to you, we are German. We appreciate your

00:59:16.660 work. Keep standing up to the 7K club. We have your back, Michael and Wayne. Thank you so much,

00:59:21.840 Michael and Wayne. I will continue to stand up to them. And I think we are winning because they're

00:59:27.300 very angry and I don't even know what they're attacking me over at this point. Laughing Catch

00:59:31.780 writes, number one podcaster, if you're a so-called freak per Dinesh, and so are we. I love that you show

00:59:37.040 Erica love and support. I do wish there was some sign that we could detect that she sees the lies that

00:59:42.460 we see. We as in the millions upon millions making you the number one podcaster. Yeah,

00:59:48.100 we're, I'm hopeful in the future we are going to know what she knows. Obviously, she is privy as a

00:59:54.800 next of kin to the lawsuit. She's privy, I'm sorry, to the prosecution. She can see what evidence they

01:00:02.320 actually have and what they're closing their case upon. Everything we have seen has just been,

01:00:07.000 I don't know. It's just, it's been one big nothing burger. Tom Paul writes,

01:00:12.920 Andrew Colvett on Alex Clark's show discussed how Charlie's heart was still beating. How did

01:00:18.360 Charlie instantly go to heaven if he had a pulse? Erica first saw Charlie at an airport in Israel

01:00:23.980 in May of 2018 with her mom. There is an old video of her talking about it. Yeah, I think I saw that

01:00:29.700 video. I think they spoke about that even in other videos they've done together. I think I was with

01:00:34.400 Charlie, by the way. That might have been for the embassy opening. I don't remember anything though

01:00:38.300 in my memory. I promise after having children, I can't remember specific things. I always have to

01:00:43.860 go back and check an email. Might have been for the embassy opening. I'm not positive. But yes,

01:00:49.260 regarding that heart still beating, if he instantly went to heaven, didn't Andrew offer up an explanation?

01:00:56.400 This was kind of one of the things why people were asking, how did he go into surgery? Because

01:01:00.240 they explained that he had died instantly. It wasn't just Erica, by the way. Frank Tarek said it.

01:01:03.940 On stage, that he knew in the car that he was gone. But maybe he still had a pulse. Again,

01:01:11.400 this would be a great thing since they mentioned it for Andrew or Frank Tarek to respond to. It's

01:01:17.120 very easy thing for them to respond to to clear up some confusion. Jesse Webb writes,

01:01:22.000 the amazing, heroic, outstanding, fearless, talented, intelligent, beautiful queen Candace of

01:01:26.560 podcasts. Take a bow. Nothing can stop you. The people have spoken and we choose truth and light

01:01:32.400 over lies in darkness. Christ is king. I really do love that it feels like we are in a moment of truth

01:01:38.300 and light. A lot is being revealed. It can feel stressful. It is certainly frustrating, especially

01:01:43.340 for me to have myself constantly taken out of context and to have people just so willfully

01:01:50.080 lying about me telling the truth. But I do know that there is a there's just something else happening

01:01:56.900 spiritually right now. And we are all barreling toward the light. I really do feel that way.

01:02:01.840 The demons shriek the loudest when they are in the light. Brad Atkins writes, praying for you in

01:02:07.440 South Carolina, the Lord Jesus Christ is king. Thank you, Brad. M.D. Turner writes, you are top,

01:02:12.880 even though Australian moronic leaders won't let you in. Keep at them. Well, I get to reapply in like a 1.00

01:02:18.180 year or so. So maybe I'll try to come again down under. Good Bean writes, time will inevitably lessen

01:02:25.240 the sting of losing Charlie. Our brains are designed this way for our protection. So please do not let

01:02:31.200 the little foxes distract you from the mission. Got your back. Let's go, Candio. Thank you so much.

01:02:36.920 I am not distracted. This is the one thing they can't distract me on. Trust me. They have no power

01:02:42.680 here. Truly. When it comes to figuring out what happened, I will be relentless. I'm typically

01:02:48.420 relentless over matters that don't have as much significance to my life personally. Brigitte

01:02:55.320 Macron. I mean, that's a broader issue with perverts in power. But this one is it is just so

01:03:01.920 sinister is so evil is incomprehensible to consider what must be true to allow for all of the shade that 1.00

01:03:09.040 the people who are asking questions are getting. And I just have known since the very beginning

01:03:15.140 that this is not going to be like JFK. We are actually going to get answers. This is going to

01:03:20.840 be solved. And that's why they're worried, because we won't let it go. We will not let it go.

01:03:27.180 Armhanna writes, Candice, that was such a wise statement. I cannot forgive until I know what I am

01:03:31.440 forgiving. Thank you for saying. I just obviously I just speak to you guys and whatever's on my heart.

01:03:35.880 And that is how I think I feel, because I'm like, what is wrong with me? Why can't I get here?

01:03:40.080 And that's the answer. I don't know what I'm forgiving. Who am I forgiving? How do you say

01:03:43.860 I forgive you? I'm talking about myself here. If I don't know who I should be forgiving, I need to

01:03:49.120 get there. She continues, everyone wrestles with God, no matter how devoted they are to their face.

01:03:53.820 Faith. I hope the truth prevails. Christ is king. Maria writes, thank you for keeping it real.

01:03:58.180 Never let anyone impede your gut feelings when your soul feels something is off. It's off facts.

01:04:02.580 Yes, we are designed that way. Our gut is our God instinct. And we're being lied to by a lot of

01:04:11.460 people and people that I feel like we shouldn't be lied from are lying to us. Juan Antonio writes,

01:04:18.940 Candice, you should team up with Dave Smith, Ian Carroll and Jimmy Doerr. Form a coalition. Share

01:04:24.560 editors. Push promotion and spark. Occupy Wall Street 2.0 and the Fed. Fulfill Tupac's dream

01:04:30.520 of a new party. I think I'm so traumatized from being at and like working for somebody else that

01:04:39.240 I don't know that I could ever work for anybody else, but forming a coalition and helping each

01:04:43.980 other. We already do behind the scenes. I haven't done that with Jimmy Doerr, but anything, these

01:04:48.780 other people, Ian Carroll, we text regularly. Dave Smith, we text regularly when we're sharing

01:04:54.280 information or asking each other questions or asking for guidance. And I look up to these people

01:05:00.360 for what they're doing. I look not even up to these people. I look beside and I see these people. And I

01:05:06.240 know that we are like in a line united and there is like an army that's rising and it feels to me

01:05:10.560 like it is the army of God. I'd love to do work with Jimmy Doerr. I have loved his videos and he has

01:05:15.340 made me laugh in his coverage of the absurd things that we are being told by the Charlie

01:05:20.500 Kirk assassination. Mina Barbie writes, Hi, Candace. My name is Mina. You have made such a

01:05:27.200 positive impact on my life. Today is my birthday and it would mean so much if you said happy birthday.

01:05:31.580 Love you. God bless. Happy birthday, Mina. I hope you have a fantastic day. Your birthday already has

01:05:38.020 great vibes because we are number one podcast in the world. So we will not forget your birthday. We will

01:05:43.420 not forget November 6th. We will not forget it. It was a it's a major win. We should be happy. We

01:05:50.080 should celebrate it. We can brag a little bit. And but I am bragging from a true place of humility

01:05:55.660 because I know that we would not have done this without you guys. You have the craziness behind the

01:06:01.860 scenes. Even me making like my team coming with me from Daily Wire. And there was a member of Skylar

01:06:09.660 messaging me being like, OK, are you going to like write me a offer in an email? I'm like,

01:06:15.580 I don't know what I'm doing. I said you would offer to what? And gratefully, my husband pulled

01:06:19.880 it all together. But these are now really fond memories because, you know, I told them, I don't

01:06:24.600 know how it's going to work out. We can't offer you cannot offer you health insurance in the first

01:06:29.440 year. It could fail. So you are taking a real risk. Go speak to your families and see if that's

01:06:35.220 something that you want to do. And they said yes. And now we're the number one podcast in

01:06:39.080 the world. So they took a chance on me and we busted our butts. And here's where we're 0.66

01:06:44.280 at. So thank you guys for supporting us on this journey to to my original Standis Cup

01:06:49.220 owners. The first white Christ is King Standis Cup. I see you. I love you guys. You guys were

01:06:56.720 here early and I've been on this journey. And so that feels good as well. I don't know what

01:07:02.460 I'll say other than book club people, everybody that signed up on the website at you. Candis

01:07:07.980 Owens dot com. And we didn't know what we were doing. Just I love you. I love you all so

01:07:12.000 much. And we'll see you tomorrow.

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