Candace Owens - February 06, 2026


An Open Letter To Erika Kirk ｜ Candace Ep 303


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

172.17702

Word Count

8,308

Sentence Count

646

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Erica Kirk's plea for transparency in the wake of her husband's death has sparked a firestorm of controversy, and Candace joins me in writing an open letter to her in pursuit of it. In the meantime, one of the fired TPUSA employees has now posted a public video informing the public of exactly what s been going on behind the scenes and the real reason that they believe that a lot of people were fired.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, happy Thursday. So Erica Kirk went onto Fox News last night and she made a plea for transparency. I have to say I'm totally with her on that one. I would like to join her in the pursuit of it with an open letter to her.
00:00:15.080 In the same vein, one of the fired TPUSA employees has now posted a public video informing the public of exactly what's been going on behind the scenes and the real reason that they believe that a lot of people were fired. Now, after watching their boss get assassinated and after working 20 hour days, this young employee was subjected to a rather bizarre loyalty test. We're going to tell you all about that. Welcome back to Candace.
00:00:45.080 Let there be light. I mean, at least that was in a nutshell what Erica Kirk told the reporter Trace Gallagher in a one on one interview regarding what she is hoping to get out of these court proceedings. She wants transparency. Take a listen.
00:01:10.180 I want there to be no hesitation in understanding of what happened to my husband that day. I want there to always be full transparency because what I don't want to have happen is for there not to be.
00:01:23.320 And then I am relying then on social media and other news outlets to explain the narrative rather than saying, hey, this is what happened.
00:01:34.680 This is what you here's all of the. It's just as hard. All of the facts on the table for you guys to see.
00:01:43.780 And you guys can see on full display what happened to my husband. And there is no if ands or buts or confusion as to who did it and why.
00:01:53.320 I don't believe her at all. That wasn't convincing. I don't know what was hard about getting that sentence out. That seems remarkably rehearsed. It almost just seems like she forgot a line.
00:02:04.540 Nothing in her eyes there makes you believe that she's telling the truth. But beyond the eyes, just the actions. Right. You can judge you by their actions. Erica, if she truly wanted more transparency, she could provide it because you don't need it in a courtroom.
00:02:16.200 We actually do not need to turn to the courts to have the public understand what happened on that day, because before the courts even got involved, the first people had access to exactly what happened in 4K, as Tyler Boyer said, was Turning Point USA.
00:02:30.980 They seized the cameras. They could have said, here, I'm also going to have some private investigators take a look at everything and tell them what they think.
00:02:38.900 I was one of the people that called and personally requested to view the tapes. I said, we don't have to release them. I just want to see the tapes.
00:02:44.860 And they were immediately cagey. They've been cagey about information. They've been changing information for saying, oh, I didn't realize that we lied about this or we lied about that.
00:02:54.960 So making this public plea to the courts, I don't know. I think that it stands in stark contrast to the actions that are available to Erica Kirk as the CEO and chairman of this massive organization.
00:03:10.640 But exactly how massive? Anyway, I wanted to write this open letter to Erica because I know that Turning Point USA watches every episode of this podcast and that people then take what I say back to her and they give her notation.
00:03:25.860 So I would appreciate it if the elves at Turning Point USA just let her see this in its entirety. Here we go.
00:03:32.900 Because more information has become available to me, I am feeling, well, I'm feeling some type of way. Here we go. Ready?
00:03:44.480 Dear Erica, I thought it best to do this publicly. I think public conversations keep everybody honest.
00:03:52.380 And there are some things that certainly need to be clarified because sometimes the gap between the truth and the lie is what happens behind closed doors.
00:04:00.300 You and Charlie began dating in earnest in 2019, and in retrospect, it was accompanied by a season of a lot of change.
00:04:10.680 For one, I was getting married and virtually, therefore, joined at the hip with my fiance.
00:04:16.900 He was sort of a new third wheel at all of our events.
00:04:20.500 A few months later, on May 1st, the public was informed that I was resigning from my position as the communications director of Turning Point USA.
00:04:30.300 Now, there has been a lot of public speculation as to what led to that decision.
00:04:36.880 The media ran with, it was anti-Semitism or some disagreements about Kanye West, but that wasn't true.
00:04:44.240 None of that was true.
00:04:44.900 The truth, and I think that you very well know what the truth is, as you were around for it,
00:04:49.900 is that Charlie and I had a disagreement which fractured my trust in him.
00:04:55.440 He did something that he had never done before.
00:04:58.740 He lied to my face about money.
00:05:02.260 Now, in retrospect, I believe that the manner in which I discovered the lie might have been by design,
00:05:08.780 but there's no need for us to delve into conspiracy when the facts are plenty enough.
00:05:13.460 Charlie had taken a meeting down in Florida with Ike Perlmutter at Mar-a-Lago.
00:05:18.260 It was a fundraising meeting.
00:05:20.660 For whatever reason, he did not want me to know about this meeting, and that was strange.
00:05:25.700 It was meant to be kept a secret.
00:05:27.160 It was strange because we had always collaborated on and taken those sorts of meetings together.
00:05:32.880 Anyway, I found out about it, and I decided to ask him casually as we were riding up an elevator at the Trump Hotel in D.C.
00:05:41.660 I said to him, have you heard from Ike recently?
00:05:45.580 And he looked me right in the face just as he was getting off on his floor, and he said, no, I haven't.
00:05:50.780 I haven't heard from him in like two weeks.
00:05:54.140 And I then said back to him, really, really, Charlie, because you had lunch with him yesterday at Mar-a-Lago,
00:06:00.580 and I saw his stomach drop.
00:06:03.660 His entire face looked, you know, as if he was going down a roller coaster.
00:06:08.560 He stuck his arm back in the elevator really quickly and tried to explain it away.
00:06:13.580 He then pivoted toward an apology, but obviously the damage was done.
00:06:18.280 And if I'm being honest, I was as hurt as I was shocked and confused by it because we were close.
00:06:25.500 We did go back down to the lobby.
00:06:28.120 We sat at a table and we talked.
00:06:29.700 I don't even remember whether or not I was angry.
00:06:31.700 I probably was.
00:06:32.500 That does tend to be my choice emotion.
00:06:34.140 But deep down, there was a part of me that knew that it was coming because of a lot of the new hires that were coming into Turning Point USA post Kanye tweet.
00:06:46.100 Charlie had new people in his ear that were hijacking his ambition, making him believe that money was the truest measure of success.
00:06:55.300 Charlie was a brilliant fundraiser.
00:06:56.400 Everybody knows that.
00:06:57.080 But he was also young.
00:06:58.520 He was naive to what the wrong money could invite into his life.
00:07:02.780 And I warned him.
00:07:04.260 I warned him in that restaurant.
00:07:06.340 I warned him specifically about Stacey Sheridan.
00:07:09.040 Everything about her made my skin crawl.
00:07:11.880 I suspected she and Tyler had something to do with it.
00:07:16.060 I also warned him about Schaefer Security and Dan Flood.
00:07:19.580 You can check the text messages because you have them.
00:07:21.620 And now I am left wondering, obviously, if Charlie had heeded my advice, if he would still be alive.
00:07:30.320 I've also come to another realization that I missed at that time.
00:07:33.880 Maybe the newest and the biggest influence in his ear.
00:07:37.960 Who was that, obviously?
00:07:39.800 It was you.
00:07:40.820 You were the newest and biggest influence in Charlie's life.
00:07:44.140 You kind of all arrived at the same time.
00:07:45.920 And you too, Erica, you lied to my face as we sat down in that hotel and we spoke for four hours.
00:07:55.140 But I want to be clear, it was different.
00:07:56.920 You see, with Charlie, I could forgive him.
00:07:58.040 We were always like brother and sister.
00:07:59.460 We went on tours thereafter.
00:08:01.520 But you didn't do it when you lie.
00:08:04.520 You didn't do it out of naivety.
00:08:06.040 You didn't do it because you were young and being pulled into the wrong direction by bad faith actors.
00:08:12.380 Andrew Colvett was never going rogue.
00:08:14.540 You knew that.
00:08:16.560 Every single evil thing that was done to me was done with your blessing.
00:08:21.780 And I consider the onslaught of attacks that I had to endure, they were evil.
00:08:28.640 Because you knew I was telling the truth and you authorized people with an incredible amount of money
00:08:34.780 to attack one of the few people in politics who was actually grieving your husband.
00:08:41.700 You knew we had a deep friendship.
00:08:43.400 You knew I was telling the truth about the Catholic thing, about everything.
00:08:47.000 You allowed these people to lie and to say that Charlie and I hadn't spoken since 2019.
00:08:54.760 I mean, it's crazy how much of a lie that was.
00:08:58.300 You authorized it and I now know that.
00:09:00.200 The question is why?
00:09:03.380 It was so cruel.
00:09:04.280 It was so mean, right?
00:09:05.240 Why impart that on someone who you know within a sea of snakes actually cared about Charlie and didn't want anything out of the organization?
00:09:13.260 Maybe it's because I was like a loose end, one person that wasn't controlled by an organization.
00:09:21.580 I'd just kind of proven that I'd rather lose everything to say something that I don't believe, least of all for money.
00:09:28.800 I mean, maybe it's also because you have his phone.
00:09:32.640 And when I revealed to the public that he had predicted his own death in remarkable detail,
00:09:38.440 maybe you went back and you read the rest of those messages, the ones that I haven't yet revealed to the public.
00:09:42.120 Because in retrospect, those messages are, they're pretty terrifying because they're precise and it feels prophetic.
00:09:49.620 Charlie was gifted.
00:09:50.600 You know that.
00:09:51.120 I know that.
00:09:51.640 And the government most certainly knew that as well since he was a kid, which is why it is, it was, at least very interesting to me that you told the New York Times,
00:10:04.080 something that most people didn't pay attention to, but you told the New York Times the night before his murder,
00:10:09.400 Charlie's, and I'm going to quote this, you said that Charlie's,
00:10:12.120 adrenal glands were just going off.
00:10:14.820 He couldn't sleep.
00:10:16.300 I know enough about Charlie to know what that means.
00:10:19.680 That means that Charlie was being bothered.
00:10:21.980 He was probably having visions like he was in 2018, probably a clearer vision than the one that I had that you guys tried to mock.
00:10:28.380 That danger was coming.
00:10:30.120 And I'm going to go ahead and say that it wasn't about a Jezebel article written by some leftists.
00:10:36.740 Please stop saying that because it's not true.
00:10:38.860 I know, Charlie, the leftist article didn't upset him in this way.
00:10:41.440 He didn't make him call a priest to pray over him.
00:10:44.940 He thought someone was going to kill him.
00:10:46.720 He did express that in writing.
00:10:48.300 And you did not lose those text messages.
00:10:50.040 You knew that.
00:10:51.520 Charlie and I spoke a lot about his third eye.
00:10:55.080 That's why that sentence caught my attention in the article.
00:10:57.680 He spoke about the street lamps that would go off when he would run, about the special school that he had to go to.
00:11:04.180 He spoke about a lot of the things that were strange in our childhood, the testing that both of us had to endure.
00:11:08.940 We spoke about the fact that we could both astral project.
00:11:11.980 You know all of this, of course.
00:11:13.160 You have his phone.
00:11:13.760 And how surprised we were when we learned that not everybody does that naturally.
00:11:18.640 Sleep paralysis.
00:11:19.380 You name it.
00:11:19.880 We had conversations about it.
00:11:22.220 And if Charlie's adrenal glands were going off, it was probably maybe for the very same reason that I pulled my kids out of school days before he was murdered.
00:11:32.820 Because I sensed danger was coming.
00:11:35.920 And since we are being open, I also want you to know that it struck me as odd when you said in that interview with Jesse Waters that you wanted Charlie to have a good night's sleep.
00:11:48.980 He was so excited.
00:11:51.060 So you sent him to sleep in his daughter's room.
00:11:54.920 And it just registered me as a little bit backwards.
00:11:56.480 I wanted my husband to have a good night's sleep because of something he had the next day.
00:12:02.820 I'd probably let him sleep in the room.
00:12:04.580 And I would sleep in my daughter's room.
00:12:07.720 I flagged that.
00:12:09.060 I also thought what was interesting is that you said the next morning when he snuck in, he grabbed his wedding band.
00:12:16.840 Again, minor detail, but I asked myself, why was his wedding band off?
00:12:21.980 But enough with speculation.
00:12:23.760 Here are the facts.
00:12:25.880 I now have verifiable proof in writing.
00:12:29.560 That Justin Strife and you lied to me.
00:12:34.280 You know exactly who Pierre is.
00:12:37.260 Why did Justin Strife say that he had never heard of Pierre?
00:12:39.340 It's crazy.
00:12:39.900 Justin, why would you do that?
00:12:41.520 Justin, you know him.
00:12:44.120 You've met with him.
00:12:44.740 You've personally met with Pierre.
00:12:48.040 Erica, you've met with him in the wake of Charlie's death.
00:12:51.220 I have, again, verifiable proof.
00:12:54.820 So you can call your lawyers.
00:12:56.000 You can spend another billion on PR if you want to.
00:12:58.960 Tell your lawyer to call my lawyer.
00:13:01.000 I mean, you guys certainly have the money to do all of these things.
00:13:04.060 It's not going to wipe away the truth.
00:13:06.980 Okay.
00:13:07.140 The truth is that there was a deal on the table with Pierre, who, yes, is from France, born in France.
00:13:16.520 And that deal was worth billions.
00:13:20.360 Not millions, billions, plural, billions of dollars.
00:13:25.020 Just after Charlie was shot, and again, I have proof, Pierre had a phone call with Justin Strife.
00:13:32.740 He also had a phone call with Mr. Don Arrico of Turning Point USA down in Tampa.
00:13:40.940 And you know what's really odd?
00:13:42.240 Somehow this French man, Pierre, he knew that Charlie was dead before the rest of the world did.
00:13:48.820 How did he know that?
00:13:49.580 How did he know before I knew?
00:13:50.840 Especially because he wasn't yet a donor to Turning Point USA.
00:13:53.780 Why was he given so much priority?
00:13:58.500 French man.
00:14:01.000 I'm interested.
00:14:03.860 I know that after Charlie died, that deal went through.
00:14:11.780 Yeah.
00:14:13.780 If I'm lying, this would definitely fall within the category of defamation.
00:14:18.280 So, yeah, I'm all in on this one.
00:14:20.700 I'm guessing, by the way, regarding this, Pierre, that this might be the reason that the White House never got back to me regarding the French Foreign Legion being involved with Charlie's assassination.
00:14:34.920 Because, I don't know, there could be a French angle here.
00:14:38.380 Could this be a motive?
00:14:39.640 Could billions of dollars be a motive?
00:14:41.060 I mean, I'll just ask some immediate questions.
00:14:44.080 My question would be, why would a devout Catholic Frenchman be looking to give billions of dollars to an evangelical organization?
00:14:55.500 Is that not weird?
00:14:56.180 Just objectively weird?
00:14:57.720 Gosh, that's a pretty big investment.
00:15:00.200 I just really care about free market capitalism.
00:15:02.160 What's France got to do with college campuses in America, full stop?
00:15:06.080 The answer, Erica, is nothing.
00:15:09.420 Nothing.
00:15:11.140 And one of the things that when I was a kid and other GATE kids, as we've been speaking about the GATE program, and they put you in these special classes, they test you.
00:15:22.820 Frequencies, sounds, they may not drink fluoride, all the weird stuff.
00:15:25.700 But one of the things that they're especially interested in is how quickly you can put together puzzles.
00:15:31.820 And I want you to know that I excelled at that.
00:15:34.360 I was really good at putting together puzzles.
00:15:39.100 I gotta tell you, I think the picture is starting to emerge here.
00:15:44.300 I think I was right.
00:15:46.140 My best guess is that it was Pierre Falcone all along of Angola Gate.
00:15:52.760 We talked about it on the show.
00:15:53.660 So France, Israel, the United States, this time it would be Egypt rather than Angola, all working together.
00:16:01.580 Maybe they were getting the band back together to traffic because, yeah, there's been a lot of trafficking that just keeps coming up in this investigation.
00:16:10.420 These countries, these satellite of countries, you trying to pretend with your, what, now billions of dollars?
00:16:18.440 Got a PR.
00:16:19.280 We can do all of this.
00:16:21.220 And it was so crazy.
00:16:22.420 Oh, a little joke about the Egyptian planes.
00:16:26.220 What?
00:16:26.740 Nothing to see here.
00:16:29.240 This is my theory.
00:16:30.480 There's a lot to see here.
00:16:32.720 Because you were lying to cover Bibi Netanyahu's tracks.
00:16:37.120 That's very strange.
00:16:38.840 You were there when Bibi Netanyahu called.
00:16:40.540 Andrew told me that Bibi offered to take Turning Point USA to the next level and that Charlie turned him down in the Hamptons at the dinner that you were a part of.
00:16:52.960 But you don't remember that part.
00:16:54.640 You say he's just calling about a letter that Charlie wrote five months earlier.
00:17:01.640 The dinner that you thereafter allowed an army of influencers to claim never actually happened, but you were there.
00:17:12.380 Oh, I was there every step of the way.
00:17:14.120 Nothing, none of this ever happened.
00:17:15.280 Nobody wanted to address Bibi calling.
00:17:18.340 Nobody made any statements about that.
00:17:21.760 Full-blown psyop, psychological operation.
00:17:24.340 Truly, everything that you guys did, not only was it cruel, but I think the real motive, the real motivation was you just thought you could psychologically break me.
00:17:34.900 Because that's what this whole thing has been.
00:17:36.180 It's been one big psyop.
00:17:38.040 Very well funded because there's a lot of money on the line.
00:17:41.360 And if nothing happened in the Hamptons that was out of the usual, why the panic?
00:17:48.200 Because something did happen.
00:17:50.900 Charlie told Bibi Netanyahu, no.
00:17:55.060 Bibi also, Charlie had declined to have Bibi on his podcast.
00:18:01.120 When Bibi went on a little PR tour, Charlie didn't want to have him on the podcast, according to Andrew.
00:18:07.700 So Charlie seems pretty done with Israel, right?
00:18:10.120 You don't want to have him on the prime minister of Israel?
00:18:13.520 But the obvious question here at the media is not interested in, but I certainly am.
00:18:20.280 Is in exchange for what, right?
00:18:22.100 In exchange for what was Bibi Netanyahu going to take Turning Point USA to the next level?
00:18:27.080 In exchange for what?
00:18:28.740 And also, how was he planning to get that money into the company?
00:18:33.880 Turning Point was already worth $100 million.
00:18:37.140 Pulls in $100 million annually.
00:18:40.980 What does the next level mean?
00:18:41.920 It sounds like it would have to be billions.
00:18:45.680 Via who?
00:18:47.700 My guess is Pierre.
00:18:50.940 Erika.
00:18:52.300 I think that there's a reason Pierre knew that Charlie was dead first.
00:18:55.400 I think there's a reason he was a priority.
00:18:57.900 How?
00:18:58.540 Why?
00:18:58.880 I think France and Israel are involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination.
00:19:02.520 And I'm going to put that out there with full confidence.
00:19:06.920 I also now have very strong evidence, which suggests that you lied about your whereabouts
00:19:16.040 on the morning of September 10th.
00:19:18.880 Little details.
00:19:19.560 I've been edited.
00:19:20.100 You said that you were accompanying your mother as she was receiving a treatment.
00:19:23.840 Like I said, I now have something which strongly disputes that narrative.
00:19:29.380 So I'll ask you this question on behalf of the world.
00:19:32.440 What the hell happened on September 10th?
00:19:36.420 Why are you guys struggling to get your story straight?
00:19:41.000 Why did you tell Jesse Waters this?
00:19:44.660 And you wanted to see Charlie immediately and came up.
00:19:52.160 Take us through that.
00:19:55.080 We landed in Utah.
00:19:57.940 Went straight to the hospital.
00:20:01.740 Straight to the hospital?
00:20:04.360 Andrew told me that when he deplaned, you guys embraced on the tarmac.
00:20:09.560 And he boohoo cried in your arms because he has so much pent up anxiety.
00:20:13.260 So just given the planes, which you confirmed to me, which plane he was on and which plane
00:20:18.920 you were on, that would mean that you had to wait for Andrew to land for an hour.
00:20:24.920 Waited for an hour.
00:20:28.160 Don't do the thing where you tell me that Andrew went rogue.
00:20:30.300 Don't do that, Erica.
00:20:31.180 You're lying.
00:20:32.000 You would be lying.
00:20:33.860 Question is why?
00:20:35.560 Why did you wait?
00:20:36.600 And how long did you wait?
00:20:37.840 And who was on the Egyptian planes?
00:20:40.180 Who took off the Delaware?
00:20:41.240 Who stayed behind to communicate on that second plane that was transponding for no reason?
00:20:47.240 I think you know what I know, which is that I'm going to find out.
00:20:54.760 This is not going to be a never-ending mystery.
00:20:58.340 This is not going to be the JFK story.
00:21:00.720 I'm going to figure out exactly what happened.
00:21:02.900 I'm getting very close against all odds, against billions.
00:21:06.540 You might have the billions, but I have the truth.
00:21:10.640 So that's what I wanted to say to you.
00:21:13.560 We'll be right back.
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00:23:25.000 Doug DeGroote, that board member that announced you as the CEO, you made it really biblical.
00:23:29.700 Could you send him my regards?
00:23:31.620 I know he was meeting with Mikey the other day.
00:23:34.620 They were discussing how to invest money.
00:23:36.560 That's so weird.
00:23:37.120 Mikey, he didn't, went straight from high school, was just Charlie's, like, intern assistant,
00:23:42.560 and now he's sitting down with board members and discussing how they should invest into restaurants.
00:23:47.960 Just send him my regards, because we're everywhere, and we're watching, and we're listening.
00:23:52.860 The whole world is invested in solving this, and so, hi, Doug.
00:23:58.720 Anyway, I wanted to also play for you guys.
00:24:01.740 We had been wondering what was going on behind the scenes at Turning Point USA.
00:24:04.720 We told you about the firings that had been happening, people that were hardly given an excuse
00:24:11.160 as to why they were fired, and I, in particular, told you a story about one young woman who had
00:24:14.840 worked there for, I think, four or five years and got fired over or questioned over an Uber
00:24:21.840 ride.
00:24:22.860 Well, she has now dropped a video, and I'm going to play it about five minutes of this
00:24:27.600 video so you can listen to her describe what happened to her, because it gives us insight
00:24:30.560 into how this company is running with Charlie Gaughan and with Erica at the helm of it.
00:24:33.660 Take a listen.
00:24:34.740 My name is Aubrey Leitch, and I am the former public relations manager for Turning Point USA,
00:24:40.660 and I was a part of the recent kind of mass termination group at Turning Point and was
00:24:48.680 let go about three weeks ago.
00:24:51.200 And at the time of my release, I was working for the ATK company, which is spokesman Andrew
00:24:56.960 Colvett's private business that contracts out with the Turning Point kind of ecosystem,
00:25:02.440 so encompassing of Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
00:25:06.520 I was working directly for him.
00:25:08.200 Prior to that, I did work for Turning Point USA, so I've been with the organization since
00:25:13.920 2021, September 10th, 2025.
00:25:17.300 Obviously, it was an extremely traumatizing day for everyone.
00:25:21.340 I think pretty much everyone in the world with any amount of sanity was slightly traumatized
00:25:26.740 by what they saw.
00:25:27.700 It was an extremely traumatizing day for me.
00:25:31.660 And I worked nonstop.
00:25:35.100 My phone received hundreds of phone calls on September 10th, thousands of text messages.
00:25:40.780 In December, we obviously had America Fest here in Phoenix, Arizona, and that was nonstop
00:25:45.900 work too.
00:25:47.140 And so really, it's just been go, go, go for almost the past six months.
00:25:52.180 During the memorial, for example, I literally did not sleep for over 48 hours.
00:25:56.760 Despite all of that, I want to go ahead and fast forward to my termination, which took
00:26:03.520 place about three weeks ago.
00:26:05.300 And I was brought into an office to have a discussion just generally about my employment.
00:26:11.360 It was myself, Andrew Colvett, and Marina Minas, who is the CMO of Turning Point USA, who I used
00:26:18.300 to work for when I was just full-time with Turning Point.
00:26:20.740 They sat me down and told me that there were two instances they wanted to talk to me about,
00:26:25.980 one of which is pretty irrelevant to this timeline.
00:26:29.460 So I'm just going to talk about the one, which was an Uber ride.
00:26:33.480 What was told to me was that a Turning Point executive got into an Uber one day, and they
00:26:38.900 randomly just kind of started talking about Turning Point.
00:26:41.320 And the executive asked the driver, so what do you think about Turning Point?
00:26:45.180 And the driver proceeded to tell the Turning Point executive, well, it's just really sad.
00:26:50.660 I've heard the organization's really going downhill.
00:26:53.560 There's not really a direction, and nobody likes Erica.
00:26:57.500 And the Turning Point executive proceeded to ask this Uber driver, well, who told you that?
00:27:03.260 And the Uber driver told the Turning Point executive that his daughter was good friends with
00:27:09.920 a girl that worked at Turning Point way back when in high school.
00:27:12.880 They had spoken about Turning Point since Charlie's assassination, and that, you know, this was
00:27:18.280 told to him by his daughter.
00:27:19.720 And the Turning Point executive, of course, asked, well, what's the employee's name?
00:27:23.680 And the Uber driver allegedly said, Aubrey.
00:27:26.020 Aubrey who?
00:27:26.900 Aubrey Leitch.
00:27:29.160 And the story was presented to me as one of the reasons for my termination.
00:27:34.280 Turning Point has not insinuated this.
00:27:35.940 They never told me anything like this.
00:27:37.380 However, I just have a gut feeling that I was terminated from Turning Point because I am
00:27:46.500 questioning the narrative of what happened to my role model and CEO, Charlie Kirk, on the
00:27:52.880 day of his assassination.
00:27:54.040 It is from my own experience that you can't question the narrative and work at Turning Point.
00:28:02.620 That is how I feel.
00:28:04.800 That is how other people I've talked to feel.
00:28:08.540 It goes against everything that Charlie ever stood for.
00:28:11.860 I'm going to take action.
00:28:13.060 I'm going to ask questions.
00:28:14.020 I'm going to talk to other people.
00:28:15.560 And I refuse to apologize for having my own freedom of thought, which is something that
00:28:21.000 Charlie ingrained in me and so many other young people.
00:28:24.060 First and foremost, I just want to say, the idea of being brought into an office and questioned
00:28:31.880 by your boss about something an Uber driver said, what is this gossip girl?
00:28:36.880 I mean, what CW show are we watching here where you get pulled in and asked a question about
00:28:41.960 what you said to an Uber driver, maybe?
00:28:44.420 I mean, maybe she said it.
00:28:45.160 Maybe she didn't say it.
00:28:46.120 But isn't it kind of your right to go home and talk trash about work?
00:28:50.640 Isn't that kind of what everybody does when they leave?
00:28:52.100 I assume, I know I'm lovely, but I'm sure that people in the control room go and they
00:28:56.000 vent about work in general because that's a normal thing to do.
00:28:59.200 The idea of a CMO asking questions to an Uber driver is bonkers.
00:29:04.120 Okay, these are loyalty tests and these people are completely and utterly deranged.
00:29:08.200 Secondly, I want to say this.
00:29:09.700 Even if every employee was terrible, like actually deserved to be fired from their job, I would
00:29:16.240 probably, after pulling in a quarter of a billion dollars, say, we got to hold for a
00:29:20.920 year because they just literally watched Charlie Kirk be assassinated.
00:29:25.620 There's like a degree of respectability there, like a grieving period for a year.
00:29:31.460 We're going to make sure there's no other transitions in your life and keep things solid.
00:29:37.260 No, no.
00:29:38.640 They just were like, peace out.
00:29:40.360 And I think she's right.
00:29:41.620 I think in the end there when she says that this was actually motivated by them going after
00:29:46.260 people who they suspected were not loyal to Erica or people that didn't seem to fully buy
00:29:50.540 what happened on September 10th, which, by the way, is everyone.
00:29:54.240 They're going to just have to get rid of everyone.
00:29:56.500 And I think eventually they will and start anew.
00:29:59.700 The entire world, I don't even know who they're going to bring in in their place.
00:30:02.760 I see their advertising now.
00:30:04.240 No one is buying what the feds are selling.
00:30:07.480 No one is buying what Erica is selling.
00:30:09.520 Nobody is buying what any person is trying to sell to us about what took place on September
00:30:16.520 10th.
00:30:17.300 OK, so I don't I don't see what what direction they're heading into.
00:30:22.680 I have no idea what the organization is going to become.
00:30:24.900 But I'm getting closer.
00:30:26.280 I'm getting real close to understanding what happened.
00:30:30.980 I think just going through the questions, the who, the what, the when, the where, the why.
00:30:34.600 I think lying about knowing Pierre, Justin Strife, that signals to me that there's a fear.
00:30:43.320 Why didn't you want us to know about Pierre?
00:30:45.600 Because if he was just somebody who was going to give billions of dollars, you'd just be like,
00:30:49.220 oh, yeah, I spoke to him like I've been in communication.
00:30:51.220 He just happened to call me at that time.
00:30:53.280 If I may issue you guys a report card, far be it for me to do this.
00:30:59.180 This is where you guys messed up.
00:31:01.420 Stupid lies, not behaving in the way.
00:31:05.900 Forget everybody grieves differently.
00:31:08.320 Nobody grieves in the manner of allowing people who were actually enemies of your husband to open up AmFest.
00:31:18.560 Like that, if I'm being honest, the first moment that I went, oh, something is very wrong,
00:31:23.460 was when Ben became the defender of Charlie Kirk.
00:31:26.640 I mean, I just knew too much.
00:31:28.100 It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, why is Ben pressing Megyn Kelly, pretending that he cares about Charlie Kirk?
00:31:34.200 This is bizarre.
00:31:34.800 This is literally upside down land.
00:31:38.120 That's when I said, okay, Israel's involved.
00:31:39.480 Because every time you see Ben, you just assume Israel's involved.
00:31:41.480 He's also, by the way, randomly doing things about Korea right now, breaking down what's going on in Korea.
00:31:46.360 There's also this Korean angle that's not making sense.
00:31:49.800 You fumbled the ball there.
00:31:51.140 If I was running the game, I'd say, hey, let's, like, pretend we're only going to allow Charlie's friends around because we're actually grieving.
00:32:01.100 This is where the PR went sideways.
00:32:02.720 It just seemed like a pay-to-play is what AmFest looked like.
00:32:07.860 And it looked like people that were paying Israel, right?
00:32:11.640 It seemed like Israel was paying.
00:32:13.420 Maybe I would have also waited to drop the Shabbat Shalom book, maybe, while people in the air were going,
00:32:19.680 I feel like he maybe did it because he's saying he didn't.
00:32:23.020 And it's kind of weird to feel like you have to say you didn't.
00:32:24.800 And I would have said, maybe let's roll the book out, Q1, 2026, and maybe let's not do it with Barry Weiss.
00:32:32.720 I feel like that's not, like, Charlie's buddy.
00:32:35.360 You guys didn't do that.
00:32:36.140 You kind of, like, went right in there.
00:32:37.880 So it seemed, I think you guys fumbled a bit there.
00:32:41.220 Silly lies, lies that didn't really make sense.
00:32:44.500 And I don't know, thinking that we were going to accept that, like, Laura Loomer and Ben Shapiro were now the friends of Charlie Kirk.
00:32:51.420 And the people that were actually his friends were his enemies, attacking Tucker Carlson, debating he got canceled.
00:32:56.880 Me, attacking me nonstop.
00:32:59.520 You fumbled.
00:33:00.320 I think you fumbled in the performance.
00:33:03.080 I am not sold on it.
00:33:05.740 And with what I know and what I'm getting close to, I don't think there will be a person in the world that's sold on it.
00:33:12.540 So, other than the people you bought and purchased, who are going to become very obvious in the coming weeks, is what I will say.
00:33:21.420 Anyway, I saw that Tim Dillon wrapped his show, how he was lamenting how it's all just so fake.
00:33:29.040 Everything is so fake, and that is how it has felt from start to finish here.
00:33:34.640 Everything that it feels like, as he says, we are just kind of watching a really bad reality show, and you're wondering when they're going to stop.
00:33:42.660 When they're going to admit that they lied about everything, but they just kind of keep going.
00:33:48.220 Here's what Tim Dillon had to say.
00:33:49.980 The tech people that were very liberal are now very right wing, and they'll be very liberal again, and they don't care.
00:33:56.500 They don't care.
00:33:57.240 And then the people that came to power criticizing the lack of free speech on social media are now shutting down free speech on social media.
00:34:06.960 So, it's obvious that a lot of this is fake, and it's performative, it's a show, it's a reality show.
00:34:17.260 So, I mean, it's not necessarily the funniest episode we've done, but it is the truth.
00:34:26.640 It is what's happening.
00:34:28.600 It is what's happening.
00:34:30.040 And in this time, you can really only trust one person.
00:34:38.800 There's one person that I trust in this time.
00:34:42.400 There's only one person I trust, and it's Erica Kirk.
00:34:49.460 Good night.
00:34:52.980 The comedians.
00:34:54.320 I actually, I trust that Erica Kirk, with the quarter billion dollars, a turning point earned off of the back of their employees who are working 20-hour days and a sympathetic public.
00:35:06.320 Well, sadly, those employees that were fired, not even given an excuse, at least Aubrey got an excuse.
00:35:12.480 Some of them got nothing, as we showed you, are now starting a GoFundMe because they didn't get anything.
00:35:19.680 They didn't get a bonus.
00:35:20.540 They got nothing, and they have put this up on GoFundMe, the Purge fallout fund.
00:35:26.740 I believe this is supporting eight employees, and so I wanted to promote this, and I'm hopeful that Erica can donate to it, maybe.
00:35:34.740 I mean, could they get $100 for 20-hour days?
00:35:40.180 $100 so they can get a grieving counselor, maybe they can buy themselves a dog to pet?
00:35:44.180 But I think that would be great, a turning point.
00:35:46.640 You would say, I can't believe that they raised a quarter billion dollars, and these people are on GoFundMe.
00:35:51.240 It's so far beyond the realm of okay.
00:35:56.000 It's just so evil.
00:35:58.620 It's all so evil that we're going to have to donate.
00:36:01.480 It's us, everybody.
00:36:02.480 If you've got a dollar to support these employees who were traumatized at watching their employer die,
00:36:07.800 I got zero days off, then had to work 20-hour days through to the end of the year, through to AmFest, and then got fired without a reason.
00:36:16.320 If you would like to support these employees, and you should, I'm certainly going to.
00:36:20.920 You can head to the Purge fallout GoFundMe campaign.
00:36:25.900 We will take a brief break, and we'll be right back.
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00:38:45.620 Who is Pierre?
00:38:47.200 Who is Pierre from France who's giving billions to Turning Point USA Catholics?
00:38:51.420 This is on us.
00:38:52.480 He's a Catholic, born in France, living in Tampa, Tampa area in Florida.
00:38:59.200 Everybody knows something.
00:39:00.840 Getting involved.
00:39:02.700 Building potentially a shrine down there.
00:39:05.700 Who knows?
00:39:06.940 We're going to figure this out.
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00:39:11.160 I have so much more for you guys.
00:39:12.360 I have been slow playing this, obviously, because they wanted to pressure me to put everything out instantly, but I'm not an idiot.
00:39:19.680 I need to know every single person at that company who betrayed Charlie.
00:39:23.020 I need to know every single one of them.
00:39:24.320 I need to know the good guys and the bad guys.
00:39:26.320 And, um, anyways, what I have to show you guys next week is just going to completely blow your minds, because I'm beginning to work through how it all worked, and Charlie was completely and utterly infiltrated.
00:39:37.080 Like I said, I know for a fact that that billion-dollar deal was real.
00:39:42.480 It was not imagined.
00:39:43.780 Erica and Justin Strife know exactly who Pierre is.
00:39:46.440 Justin has met with Pierre.
00:39:47.940 So is Erica.
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00:40:12.300 Good thing we have a French channel, because France is very involved.
00:40:14.920 My instincts were correct.
00:40:18.040 And how did I get there?
00:40:18.940 Well, following the Egyptian planes.
00:40:20.740 LOL.
00:40:21.240 Ha ha ha ha.
00:40:21.920 Right, Erica?
00:40:22.780 Nobody from Egypt.
00:40:24.880 Yeah.
00:40:25.380 What about Israel?
00:40:26.900 Hmm?
00:40:27.860 A lot of countries donating, I bet.
00:40:29.720 Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
00:40:30.520 Top comment from last episode is, can we stop calling them elites?
00:40:36.440 Refer to them instead as the deletes.
00:40:38.940 And we should just refer to them as the cult.
00:40:42.300 The cult.
00:40:43.240 The satanic cult.
00:40:44.800 I totally agree with you on that.
00:40:47.140 Let's get some of your comments from today's episode.
00:40:49.880 We have Courtsy, who is writing, oh, sorry, I read that.
00:40:53.240 Corey Henry wrote, Candace, I love you.
00:40:54.820 This is The Truman Show.
00:40:56.220 That's why Andrew said, Candace, it was supposed to be you.
00:40:58.460 That was a part, I think, of a very well-planned effort to psychologically traumatize me.
00:41:05.660 They were trying to neutralize me psychologically, like I said, because I was the one loose end.
00:41:11.500 Everybody else is working for some organization, being told what they have to say, and I'm just
00:41:16.480 out here saying how I feel and willing to lose money and take those risks because I'm
00:41:23.300 not siding with the side that harms children.
00:41:27.660 I'm just not going to side with pedos.
00:41:29.320 I'm not going to do it.
00:41:30.720 So, yeah, I think that was a part of it.
00:41:33.580 And it was sophisticated, military-level PSYOP, if I'm being honest, psychological operation
00:41:39.220 to traumatize me and then to have people fighting me before I can even process what happened
00:41:42.240 to Charlie.
00:41:42.820 They're coming after me.
00:41:44.080 They're attacking me.
00:41:45.040 You get all these influencers taking money.
00:41:47.860 I can't believe Candace.
00:41:48.860 And it was just meant to wear me down, but it didn't work because I read the Sigmund Freud
00:41:55.400 books.
00:41:56.020 I know what that looks like.
00:41:57.260 I knew, but it was a psychological operation.
00:41:59.600 And I got through it.
00:42:00.600 And I got through it in large part not because I'm particularly tough, but because I was motivated
00:42:06.820 by true friendship with Charlie.
00:42:08.800 And I had the people.
00:42:11.660 I had you guys telling me to keep going and defending me in the comments when I genuinely
00:42:16.820 felt like I was just, I was just so confused.
00:42:20.620 I genuinely was so confused at what was happening, like why they were just going to pretend up was
00:42:25.160 down and down was up and that I was the enemy when I was actually the friend.
00:42:29.380 And I really do just from the bottom of my heart want to thank you guys because when I was
00:42:34.380 definitely feeling weak, if I didn't look like it, you guys were strong.
00:42:38.880 So I want to say that the Decentralized Intelligence Agency has brought us to this moment.
00:42:44.660 This was not the work of me.
00:42:46.000 It was the work of everybody.
00:42:47.160 Everybody had a piece of the puzzle and I just pulled it together on this podcast.
00:42:51.020 Alaska Doglady writes, truth wins.
00:42:52.880 Christ is king.
00:42:53.980 They've got money.
00:42:55.160 They always do.
00:42:55.880 They print it.
00:42:56.880 We have truth.
00:42:58.820 And what also I think has happened is Charlie's gone.
00:43:02.280 Charlie was the godly one there.
00:43:05.180 Charlie, like I said yesterday, the deal, when you do a deal with the devil, you no longer
00:43:11.740 have access to the creative force.
00:43:14.560 You have to steal.
00:43:15.320 You have to lie.
00:43:15.960 You have to cheat.
00:43:16.880 But you can't create.
00:43:18.540 You instantly just become stale.
00:43:20.300 And that's what I am sensing and feeling at Turning Point USA.
00:43:23.060 You have to rely on lawyers and legal letters.
00:43:27.940 And yeah, that's what happens, sadly.
00:43:31.760 Mary Everett writes, it's not billions, but I hope that this helps.
00:43:38.440 Do not let these demons get away with it.
00:43:39.900 Thank you so much.
00:43:40.820 And truly, anybody that's giving right now, I'd rather you give to the employees.
00:43:47.180 I mean, what happened to them is so wrong.
00:43:48.700 I can't believe we're saying it.
00:43:49.540 Like I said, this feels crazy.
00:43:50.560 We're in like crazy town right now.
00:43:52.040 I'm asking you to give to employees that worked for an organization that made $250 million
00:43:57.200 in a couple of months.
00:43:58.280 This is crazy town.
00:43:59.780 But again, we're the good people.
00:44:04.420 And they deserve something.
00:44:06.020 And by the way, that she didn't mention this in the video, but that young woman, they also
00:44:10.780 then fired her fiance.
00:44:12.620 So their entire income in one house was wiped out in one day.
00:44:17.820 No explanation given to him.
00:44:20.880 You're married to the wrong person.
00:44:22.080 I don't know.
00:44:23.400 U.S. flag poll guy writes, you S's of B's are going to feel the wrath of citizens of
00:44:29.900 this republic.
00:44:30.560 Who the hell do you think you are to come into this sovereign country and unalive Charlie
00:44:34.980 and expect us to watch?
00:44:37.220 Yeah, they wanted us to watch.
00:44:40.300 And then they yelled at us for still talking about it.
00:44:42.880 I mean, it's it's it's I laugh because it's it's like made up evil where it's like cartoonishly
00:44:49.880 evil, right?
00:44:50.600 It's actually if you put it in a script and try to sell it in Hollywood, they say, oh,
00:44:53.860 this is just unbelievable.
00:44:54.660 It's just not we can't actually no one will actually believe this is biblical evil, truly
00:44:59.620 biblical evil.
00:45:01.900 Cat Lady for America writes, stay safe, Candace, go max.
00:45:04.840 The truth will prevail.
00:45:08.020 GN 2176 writes, yesterday I heard Candace revisit Charlie's plea.
00:45:12.880 The outcry to others concerning they are going to kill me text that is hugely important
00:45:17.580 in this case, not only for the defense, but for the prosecution to avoid them.
00:45:21.620 Keep pushing on Charlie's text messages.
00:45:23.320 Yes, I said I'll say it again.
00:45:25.160 Those messages were sent on iMessage.
00:45:29.360 They unless someone deleted it before they handed it to Erica, it's possible.
00:45:35.900 You know, I'll throw that out there.
00:45:37.340 It's possible.
00:45:38.100 But they were sent on iMessage.
00:45:39.500 I don't I don't think she's not aware because one of the messages existed or not.
00:45:45.940 Obviously, in the course of this investigation, Dan Flood and Andrew Colvett would have told
00:45:51.120 her that.
00:45:51.960 Hey, I got this text message.
00:45:54.560 Amy O writes, you are Charlie's David Crisis King.
00:45:57.420 Keep going, Max and stay, Max.
00:45:58.980 Thank you, Amy.
00:46:00.060 Cohen Film writes, boycott Turning Point USA's halftime show.
00:46:03.640 I forgot they made the announcement about that halftime show.
00:46:06.980 You know, I like some of the performers that are in it.
00:46:10.360 I I can't.
00:46:12.140 I'm sorry.
00:46:13.300 Nope.
00:46:14.460 Um, won't stop liking those individual performers, but I will not be watching Turning Point USA's
00:46:20.040 halftime performance.
00:46:22.620 Kelly writes, I am Catholic and I've been with you and Charlie since PragerU.
00:46:27.220 Your conversion was in my prayers then and your safety is in my prayers now.
00:46:30.840 I have no doubt Charlie is in heaven with Our Lady praying for your protection.
00:46:35.060 Christ is King.
00:46:37.660 I I thank you so much.
00:46:40.020 I think the prayers have been guiding us.
00:46:42.520 I feel that the the way the path has been lit in certain ways.
00:46:47.440 I get an email at the right time and then the puzzle is starting to come together and
00:46:51.300 we are getting very close to a full picture without question.
00:46:53.920 Jonathan Newton writes in Acts 743 Stephen tells the Jews before they killed him that
00:47:00.100 they carried the star of Remfin in the wilderness.
00:47:02.160 That's correct.
00:47:03.580 Um, that's a six pointed star also in Zechariah 511.
00:47:07.260 It says that wickedness will return.
00:47:10.200 That is where Babylon is.
00:47:11.980 I love your show.
00:47:13.200 I agree.
00:47:14.340 And, um, thank you guys.
00:47:15.520 I mean, this has been a journey speaking about I have learned so much and like we've all
00:47:19.960 learned so much.
00:47:20.560 I mean, we're talking about Gilgamesh on the show and Nimrod and we're talking about
00:47:23.880 the Bible and true evil and I have to think that that awakening is is one thing good that's
00:47:29.720 come out of this.
00:47:30.500 I think many of us were asleep.
00:47:33.680 Even those of us who feel like we were awake couldn't comprehend this level of evil and
00:47:39.540 it is this level of evil without question.
00:47:41.640 So, uh, we will see you guys on Monday.
00:47:45.240 We will see you guys on Monday.
00:47:46.220 We will see you guys on Monday.