Candace Owens - December 27, 2024


BANNED! My Interview With Ye (Kanye West)


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 10 minutes

Words per Minute

164.47443

Word Count

11,654

Sentence Count

952

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

54


Summary

Candice and Yay discuss Yay's anti-Semitic remarks at his White Lives Matter fashion show, and how Candice handled the backlash and the pressure to condemn him. Candice talks about how she handled it and how she dealt with the backlash.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All right, guys, now it's time for a conversation that so many of you have been waiting for.
00:00:04.960 Candice plus yay.
00:00:06.500 I guess it kind of starts with a time machine.
00:00:08.860 I've got to take you guys in a time machine back to October 3rd, 2022, a day that will
00:00:14.680 live in infamy.
00:00:16.060 Me and yay premiering shirts at his fashion show, which read White Lives Matter.
00:00:23.020 Definitively a moment I will never forget.
00:00:25.460 We broke the internet.
00:00:27.020 There's no other way to say it, and people just couldn't believe how could a Black person
00:00:30.960 say White Lives Matter?
00:00:33.640 We can only say Black Lives Matter.
00:00:36.020 And it's just interesting to see how the media sort of paints a narrative, and there's absolutely
00:00:40.200 no truth to it.
00:00:41.640 I mean, what really happened is yay called me, and he asked me to simply be at his show.
00:00:48.260 Never asked me about wearing any shirts when I was there.
00:00:51.460 We were backstage, and he sort of held up the shirt, and he was really in the creative process.
00:00:56.260 There were tons of models running around, and he just said, I need you to wear this.
00:01:00.000 And I said, sure, because I knew instantly what he was trying to do and what he meant.
00:01:05.100 Shortly thereafter, though, everything changed.
00:01:08.300 And obviously, aside from people being angry at us wearing the shirts, then it shifted into
00:01:13.160 this conversation about yay and his anti-Semitism.
00:01:16.740 And I can say definitively that it was the toughest moment in my entire career.
00:01:24.680 I had never felt more pressure externally from the media and from friends for me to condemn
00:01:33.240 yay.
00:01:35.140 And I didn't take the bait.
00:01:36.480 I didn't take the bait because, as I have said many times, yay had opened up to me about
00:01:41.120 some things that were happening in his life, and you're going to hear in this conversation
00:01:46.400 what those things were.
00:01:49.020 And you can understand how someone would feel if they were subjected to the things that yay
00:01:55.380 was subjected to.
00:01:57.080 I, of course, wanted the world to hear it back then.
00:02:00.820 I had invited yay to come on my podcast at the time, and he was slated to come on.
00:02:06.700 But the evening before, I found out that that was not going to be a possibility.
00:02:11.360 The network that I was on didn't think that I was the right person to interview him because
00:02:16.920 of our friendship.
00:02:18.920 And he was really upset.
00:02:20.320 He was very upset.
00:02:21.760 He essentially said that my voice was being controlled.
00:02:24.940 And something overtook me in that moment.
00:02:27.560 And I said, look, yay, I obviously cannot overrule this at all.
00:02:33.300 If I had my own platform, I would obviously host a conversation with you, but I don't
00:02:38.060 have that right now.
00:02:39.440 I do not have that right now.
00:02:40.840 But what I do have is a camera, and I have a friend who knows how to run a camera, and
00:02:46.280 we can just record this moment, and we can lock this in a time capsule.
00:02:50.380 And one day, I will have my own platform, and I will premiere this conversation.
00:02:57.080 And that day is today.
00:02:58.920 When I say that it was a tough moment, you were even looking at me when I watched this
00:03:03.400 conversation back.
00:03:04.320 You can just see it on my face.
00:03:05.620 I was postpartum.
00:03:07.000 There are very few times.
00:03:08.420 I'm not a crier.
00:03:09.960 I definitely am not a crier.
00:03:11.820 That's not how I express emotions.
00:03:14.020 But I remember going through this period, and there was a moment when, because I was postpartum,
00:03:19.980 ladies know you have that moment where your hair sheds postpartum.
00:03:23.840 And I remember dealing with the press cycle with Ye, dealing with friends and followers
00:03:30.060 who said they wouldn't support me ever again unless I came out and condemned him, making
00:03:33.440 a decision not to condemn him, and standing in the shower, and my hair was falling out
00:03:37.680 in clumps, and I just said, please, God, and I was just crying hysterically, have mercy
00:03:43.180 on me.
00:03:43.700 Please just have mercy on me.
00:03:45.240 I just need to get through this moment.
00:03:47.040 I'm a breastfeeding mom.
00:03:48.220 I can't take any more.
00:03:49.500 My show's just gone five days for a week.
00:03:51.500 Make it stop.
00:03:53.340 Make it stop.
00:03:55.280 And I look back on that, and I just think everything happens for a reason, and whatever
00:04:00.060 inspired me to say, let's just put on a camera, turn on a camera here, and record and have
00:04:06.820 a conversation and lock it up in a time capsule, it was because that was exactly what needed
00:04:13.240 to happen at that time, and a better moment for people to hear what Ye was thinking and
00:04:18.160 what he had to say, is right now.
00:04:21.520 So guys, I invite you to listen to this conversation.
00:04:24.820 Candice plus Ye, it was recorded on October 17th, 2022.
00:04:33.560 I hope you like it.
00:04:48.160 Yeah, I'm happy.
00:04:50.500 Happy to do it tonight.
00:04:52.200 Yeah.
00:04:52.600 So yeah, it's better than doing it in the morning.
00:04:54.400 I'm obviously not the best morning person.
00:04:58.540 We were talking about doing a Godcast for a while, actually.
00:05:01.740 So this works.
00:05:03.280 Why did the word Godcast come to you?
00:05:08.600 Rhyme of a podcast.
00:05:09.940 It had God in it.
00:05:11.120 Okay.
00:05:11.620 So it wasn't an ego thing.
00:05:13.180 People will say, oh, yay, Yeezus, Godcast.
00:05:19.040 Is there any messaging in that?
00:05:20.700 Just the more we could say God, the better.
00:05:23.440 The more we could say God in the media, the better.
00:05:25.440 Yeah, I agree.
00:05:27.560 So I think one of the things that's the most interesting I want to dive in this way is
00:05:31.140 people don't actually understand.
00:05:34.960 There's something about you and I coming together that the media cannot stand.
00:05:41.740 It's actually fascinating to me.
00:05:43.880 I called you super stressed out like three nights ago.
00:05:47.080 I was just like, what the heck am I going through right now?
00:05:51.200 It's another level that you graduate into when we're talking about yay and we're talking
00:05:57.900 about the media.
00:05:58.740 I don't think people understand.
00:05:59.700 When I say the attacks come from every angle, every side, every regard, they'll attack you
00:06:06.980 on your children.
00:06:08.320 They'll attack me and my relationship.
00:06:09.880 They'll go after family members.
00:06:11.480 My dad called me stressed from Hawaii.
00:06:14.600 Wow.
00:06:15.440 Yeah.
00:06:15.880 He called me stressed from Hawaii.
00:06:18.500 It's so funny that you said, you remember when I talked about the gray hat and the gray
00:06:26.100 hat hitting your table?
00:06:30.380 Read the last text from my dad out loud.
00:06:33.580 We talked about the miracles.
00:06:36.000 Read out loud the last text.
00:06:37.180 Wow.
00:06:38.040 When do you want me in Hawaii?
00:06:40.500 That's wild.
00:06:42.260 Well, my dad's in Hawaii right now.
00:06:44.580 That's what I'm saying.
00:06:45.240 Yeah.
00:06:45.460 And he called me stressed up.
00:06:46.640 When I picked up, he was just like, Candace, what is going on?
00:06:51.580 Then I actually started laughing.
00:06:53.120 It was kind of comedic relief because my dad is not really like that.
00:06:57.240 And he was like, I'm reading all these headlines.
00:06:58.900 And my sister was texting me.
00:07:00.920 My uncle, the whole family has just been texting me like, are you good?
00:07:06.160 All hell has broke loose and all heaven has come through.
00:07:09.560 Yeah.
00:07:10.760 In a way, yeah.
00:07:12.160 It is.
00:07:12.760 It does feel like all hell has broken loose.
00:07:14.900 And the last time I went through this, though, it was a similar thing.
00:07:19.180 It was like, for some reason, the game of life was just like, Candace and Ye are not allowed to come together.
00:07:25.860 Why?
00:07:26.260 I mean, it's the impact.
00:07:29.680 It's the gut feeling with the intuition and the intellect.
00:07:39.560 It's the gut with the information.
00:07:44.660 It's the idea.
00:07:48.060 It's the study.
00:07:48.960 And that's how other people have risen to forms of power.
00:07:57.760 God is the only power.
00:07:59.060 And we are vessels.
00:08:00.360 God is a true artist.
00:08:01.260 And we're the vessels.
00:08:02.860 And he's calling for me, for us to lean into these combinations.
00:08:13.100 What they do is they'll do everything to keep the artists away from each other.
00:08:17.440 Like, when me and Demla were next to each other, it was such a powerful combination.
00:08:23.740 When me and Ken were next to each other, that was a powerful combination.
00:08:27.060 When me and Jay-Z were next to each other, it was a powerful combination.
00:08:30.680 So I love these moments of, like, these powerful combinations together.
00:08:36.680 And whatever feel you do for, like, the futurists, the people who can see what the future is, the kids 20 years younger, 40 years from now, 80 years from now, when they see this, that's a big thing is lean into those people that everyone tells you, like, you don't need to be next to that person.
00:08:58.060 But you have something in your heart and your gut on why you should be next to that person.
00:09:02.840 And I've had people, like, comedians that you know of have called me and said, stay away from Candace Owens.
00:09:11.780 And, you know, like, literally my, I guess they used the term friends, have done the same to me.
00:09:20.900 Even to the point where I'm going to be on Bill Maher this week, I'm going to be on Pierce Morgan, I'm going to be on, I was just on Chris, how do you say his last name?
00:09:31.860 Tonight.
00:09:33.880 Chris.
00:09:35.360 Co.
00:09:37.820 Let me see.
00:09:41.700 Chris Cuomo.
00:09:43.000 Chris Cuomo.
00:09:43.980 Wow.
00:09:44.500 You did Chris Cuomo?
00:09:45.280 Yeah.
00:09:45.480 Tonight, like, 30-minute segment, half talking, half a little bit back and forth arguments.
00:09:52.780 And then when you're landing, they're saying, oh, I can't be on Daily Wire.
00:09:57.220 But I can be on all these platforms.
00:09:58.960 And you said downstairs that they told you the reason was is you weren't going to push back on me enough.
00:10:04.420 Yeah.
00:10:04.600 Like, Chris was saying stuff like, you need to understand and you need to behave.
00:10:09.920 And he said that at one point in the interview.
00:10:11.500 I said, whoa, let's play that back.
00:10:13.600 You need to behave.
00:10:14.420 You're not supposed to talk like that out loud, Chris.
00:10:18.600 You know, we know that that's what it is.
00:10:21.140 And I was just talking to my girl.
00:10:22.840 She was in the car listening to me while I was doing the Zoom, this live Zoom.
00:10:28.280 And afterwards, I said, this is the way I felt in Hollywood the whole time I was there.
00:10:34.540 Like, people were telling me, like, you need to behave.
00:10:36.680 You cannot wear a red hat.
00:10:38.940 You cannot talk to Candace.
00:10:41.200 You cannot say how you feel out loud.
00:10:42.960 Like, today, they took down my Drink Champs.
00:10:46.760 They took it off of whatever platforms, YouTube, Drink Champs, Revolt.
00:10:51.520 And they also took me off of the Balenciaga sites.
00:10:55.560 And I just looked at my girl and said, yo, I'm so happy.
00:10:58.320 Like, I'm so happy because I have this freedom from beholding to these brands that say, we only rock with you under these conditions.
00:11:15.500 Like, we can have you be a Black person, but only a Black person that says, that's wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt.
00:11:23.760 Which, at this point, now that I've worn a White Lives Matter t-shirt, I'm totally fine with wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt.
00:11:29.760 You know, it's not because all lives matter.
00:11:31.360 But even all lives matter would have, you know, I cut what I'm saying, this train of thought.
00:11:38.120 No, no, you're making perfect sense to me.
00:11:40.320 I had two thoughts today.
00:11:41.740 The first, well, I had a lot of thoughts today.
00:11:44.180 I didn't just have two thoughts today, just to clarify.
00:11:46.220 But I was thinking earlier about when is the first time that I heard Ye was mentally ill, right?
00:11:54.160 So I grew up on your music.
00:11:56.680 Obviously, everybody knows, like, you know, like when you first were spinning through the wire, you know?
00:12:03.080 And you had a remarkably long career in the public sphere, and nobody had ever called you mentally ill, right?
00:12:10.240 And now, no matter what you say, when you don't exist under, I would just call it Hollywood terms, their number one rebuttal, if you have an idea or you're saying anything, is that, well, he's mentally ill.
00:12:21.560 And he already said he was mentally ill because he said it on this podcast.
00:12:24.600 And therefore, we don't have to listen to anything else that he has to say.
00:12:27.220 I can see, we were ready to say he's mentally ill.
00:12:29.020 And so I actually researched when is the first time that the public sold us this.
00:12:33.020 And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was in 2017 that they said that you went to the hospital and you were bipolar.
00:12:43.780 It's 2015.
00:12:44.920 Sorry, pardon.
00:12:45.920 2015 when Trump was...
00:12:47.880 Yeah, about to...
00:12:49.760 Right when Trump got elected, I went to the hospital less than a week after that.
00:12:56.460 Because the entire time while he was running, people told me that my life would be over.
00:13:04.300 I would be on the wrong side of history.
00:13:07.100 You know, like literally people threatened my life and told me, me, I did not stand up and say, hey, this is what I believe in.
00:13:15.640 And that's who I am.
00:13:16.700 That's who I...
00:13:17.860 That's what my character is.
00:13:20.640 So I think that...
00:13:22.160 They made you think that...
00:13:23.400 Yeah, it's like how people...
00:13:26.140 They said the reason why I couldn't be on Daily Wire is the Israelite comment.
00:13:33.560 And every Black person is fine with calling ourselves Black and being called Black.
00:13:41.120 But when I bring up the idea that we're Jew because we are from Africa.
00:13:45.880 The Bible was...
00:13:48.620 The majority...
00:13:49.460 It's like set in Africa.
00:13:52.620 The...
00:13:52.860 Then it's challenging.
00:13:55.960 And we talked about on the George Floyd documentary, it's called The Greatest Lie Ever Sold.
00:14:00.760 The idea that Black people are not Jew is the greatest lie that's ever sold.
00:14:05.620 Because you don't see the Jewish abortion rate at the same level as the Black abortion rate.
00:14:12.240 50% of Black deaths a year is actually abortion.
00:14:14.700 You don't see the Jewish divorce rate at the level of 70-something.
00:14:20.940 You said the percentage...
00:14:21.960 Percent of Black moms raising their kids by themselves.
00:14:24.820 You don't see Jewish people shooting each other down in the street on WorldStar and then rapping about it.
00:14:32.160 It's just that...
00:14:32.920 There's not Jewish content like that.
00:14:35.040 And also Jewish people do business together.
00:14:38.180 And that's what I said on The Drink Tramp.
00:14:40.240 Say, these are things that I'm envious of.
00:14:42.700 You know, they...
00:14:44.800 I think the first thing that someone would say if you said that, right, is same for Chinese.
00:14:51.440 You don't see Chinese people shooting each other.
00:14:53.960 You don't see Chinese people with this super high divorce rate.
00:14:56.220 You don't see Chinese people and Japanese people and Korean people and Hispanic people-ish.
00:15:03.060 But no matter what, nobody's rates of violence and abortion are as high.
00:15:09.260 White America, forget Jewish America.
00:15:10.940 White America don't have these same rates, right?
00:15:13.040 And so they ask, why isolate Jewish American population?
00:15:15.880 Well, for Black people, okay, with the rates of that R's being higher, we're still...
00:15:21.600 You know, you go see the Slade movie, you see like a slave get their teeth pulled out in front of another slave.
00:15:26.980 We're still getting our teeth pulled out.
00:15:30.300 You know, literally like in jail.
00:15:31.480 I have friends whose, you know, family members went to jail and they got killed by an officer.
00:15:40.080 And then the officer like all of a sudden quit and they're not there anymore and stuff.
00:15:48.520 And like, so they can't do the trial.
00:15:49.980 And, you know, so we're getting left and right still treated like slaves.
00:16:02.180 And the reason why I specifically say the Jewish people is the Jewish people, like how the Armenians worked in a meatpacking district.
00:16:17.440 The Jewish people came into power in the 80s, truly, you know, when the divorces started happening because of Wall Street, because the like Catholic lawyers wouldn't divorce people.
00:16:32.900 And they came into money the way how the darker Jews, the Black people are coming into money now.
00:16:39.900 And they had to, and they did a great job.
00:16:43.700 They colluded, they, before that, they were very involved with the civil rights movement, which actually the movement was, it moved Blacks from being Republican over to becoming Democrats.
00:16:58.240 That was what the movement, that's the, that's where the move happened.
00:17:01.300 And, and now everyone's, why are you calling them out specifically?
00:17:08.980 When I said DEFCON 3, I didn't get an opportunity to say what that meant, but it meant I'm going to call out all these things that have been done to me specifically by Jewish people that so happen to be businessmen or businesswomen.
00:17:24.280 But still, it was done by Jewish people to me, to the dark, to, to the darker Jew.
00:17:33.900 And I was going to go one by one.
00:17:35.540 And the reason I said it like that is just to say, I know you guys are going to call this anti-Semite and I'm not afraid of that title.
00:17:43.200 Now I'm going to lean into that title.
00:17:44.980 So call me whatever you want, because you call me void already.
00:17:48.240 Hey, what's the definition of Black?
00:17:50.300 Void of color.
00:17:51.640 Some people, you know, artists may say it's all color.
00:17:54.720 And it could also mean like, it's like what they did.
00:17:57.580 And when I ran for office and they showed me on the TV and they like blacked my face out and they had me be void.
00:18:04.460 And I think that Jewish people always will tell you about the trauma and the Holocaust.
00:18:11.360 So one of my favorite lines on the Drink Champs, you actually hit me about this, is when Dove Trani said, hey, I want to take you to the Holocaust Museum.
00:18:18.860 And I said, I want you to go to our Holocaust Museum, Planned Parenthood.
00:18:22.980 Like, we're still in the Holocaust.
00:18:25.440 Six million Jewish people died in the Holocaust.
00:18:28.560 Over 20 million darker Jews, Black people, have been aborted.
00:18:34.780 More babies are aborted in New York at this point than born at this point.
00:18:40.740 And my thing about the media, the majority of the media, over 50 percent of the media, at least probably 80 percent, but over 50 percent of the media is run by Jewish executives.
00:18:53.240 And they allow all of this abortion-driven content that more affects the darker Jew, the Black people, more than any other race.
00:19:11.860 But then you ask the question, you can't even Google, like when you Google Jewish abortion rate, it'll be one piece of information.
00:19:18.020 The next information is like from four years ago or something.
00:19:20.920 There's no information about it.
00:19:23.580 And if I try, attempt, attempt, my mom said try and fail.
00:19:27.400 If I fail by attempting to have a conversation with a Jewish person about the abortion rate, they won't allow the conversation to be had.
00:19:36.340 That's why I said, hey, I'm Me Too-ing the Jewish race.
00:19:42.800 That saying, hey, you guys got to come up and say, did you do this or did you not do this?
00:19:47.480 And I'm calling a lot of times to say people feel like I'm very selfish driven because I'll talk about things I specifically went through.
00:19:54.060 So I said, OK, well, I'm this voice for the actors, the musicians, the athletes specifically I know are in situations where at least four of the people that they do business with are Jewish.
00:20:06.460 And those people know each other and the athletes come and go.
00:20:11.680 And that four, five, six, eight people remain.
00:20:15.560 The athletes come and go like like cattle's in the stable.
00:20:19.040 The actors come and go.
00:20:21.380 The musicians come and go.
00:20:23.140 And that mainstay of that Jewish, just say crew, because it sounds less ramped up than mafia, right?
00:20:31.400 The mob sounds less mentally ill.
00:20:34.180 So let's say there is definitely a crew.
00:20:38.160 And I've been there and I've been talked to certain kind of ways.
00:20:44.220 And you know who else wouldn't be talked to a certain kind of way?
00:20:47.920 Kobe Bryant.
00:20:49.260 You don't get talked to a certain way.
00:20:51.060 I don't get talked to a certain kind of way.
00:20:52.660 So things that I'm saying out loud, hyped up or calmly, I'm saying things five times a day that Black people, leaders, that specific Black people, just leaders throughout time have been killed for things that we're doing five times a day.
00:21:08.940 So one thing for the Black community and all of this, like woke culture and, you know, Charlemagne and different things, it's like, bro, this is getting ridiculous at this point.
00:21:20.760 People got to put some respect on the fact that I'm actually brave enough to say this out loud.
00:21:28.720 Like, that's what's lit.
00:21:30.940 That's what God is inside of me.
00:21:32.760 That's why I feel so good to be used.
00:21:35.840 You ain't got me to a point y'all call me so many names.
00:21:38.980 You've disrespected me.
00:21:40.120 For three years, Forbes wouldn't call me a billionaire.
00:21:42.600 It is important if people are calling me crazy to be like, oh, but I'm a billionaire because it's like, it's not me being classist.
00:21:50.880 It's just me fighting against that, saying, OK, you're calling me crazy, but I must be doing something right.
00:21:56.760 Now, I'm not doing something.
00:21:57.360 I'm doing everything right.
00:21:59.100 And then to reach to the concept, the idea of being the richest Black person ever, and we're just at the beginning, you know, George Farmer was so elated by the response that we were getting.
00:22:15.480 And then Elon Musk was retweeting what's going on or tweeting about what's going on today, and it hit Bloomberg, and it's top trending.
00:22:25.000 And I said to my chief of staff, get me a plane.
00:22:29.300 I'm going to Nashville right now.
00:22:31.720 And the feeling is right.
00:22:33.180 Then we went to a restaurant, and the restaurant literally had all the same letters of the name my mother gave me.
00:22:39.740 It was K-A-Y-N-E.
00:22:42.260 So that's another.
00:22:43.500 It's like you're talking about your dad with Hawaii.
00:22:46.940 And I had to, you know, you guys saw that.
00:22:50.180 You saw me hand the phone over, like David Blaine.
00:22:53.000 I couldn't have written that.
00:22:55.160 My dad is like, because the funny thing is, where is your dad in Hawaii?
00:22:58.480 Because I have this feeling, like, let's go to Hawaii because I made really good music in Hawaii.
00:23:05.400 And I just want to go to Hawaii and actually do what Jewish people love the best out of me is make music and make people really happy.
00:23:13.880 That's interesting because I think what's missing in the conversation and the media trying to spin what you're saying is that you are talking about an industry where there are Jewish executives.
00:23:24.260 And that's the first time I've actually heard you say Jewish executives.
00:23:26.900 And I think before the way that they were trying to sort of callously interpret it was that you meant every single Jewish person in the entire world.
00:23:34.280 A person walking the street has this power.
00:23:36.540 But you live, I mean, you have lived for a very long piece of your life, at least in Hollywood.
00:23:41.120 And what is weird to me and where I'm trying to play catch up is that there was a piece in the LA Times written by a Jewish guy named Joel Stein.
00:23:51.860 And he said, who runs Hollywood?
00:23:54.980 Come on, man.
00:23:55.920 And he's a Jewish guy.
00:23:56.840 And he wrote about how all the executives in Hollywood were Jewish.
00:23:59.900 And that piece wasn't called anti-Semitic.
00:24:02.420 But yet now, if you say that part, if you say that a lot of the executives, especially in music, I thought this was something that people knew.
00:24:09.980 I've heard this in Jay-Z's music before.
00:24:11.760 So I was very surprised that there was this, oh, my God, how dare he say this?
00:24:17.140 And it's anti-Semitic for him to say this.
00:24:19.280 And how can you say that, you know, I think what you're talking about is that every piece of what you have created has been owned by a Jewish executive.
00:24:27.680 And that there are a lot of, there's a disproportionate amount of Jewish executives in Hollywood.
00:24:32.300 Like, if I was going to get my nails done, I might say there's a disproportionate amount of Vietnamese people wearing the nail signs.
00:24:38.180 You know what I'm saying?
00:24:38.940 I don't know what happened, but they got here and they were like, we're going to do nails.
00:24:41.780 You know what I'm saying?
00:24:42.120 All black people in the NBA.
00:24:43.500 Right.
00:24:43.980 Yeah, so why is that, why is, are we allowed to say that?
00:24:47.160 If I, like I just said that, there's a disproportionate amount of Spanish blood, the border.
00:24:57.460 Because the people who run the nail shop.
00:25:00.040 But I won't get censored.
00:25:01.620 The people who run the nail shop don't run your podcast.
00:25:07.060 That's it.
00:25:08.480 Okay.
00:25:08.900 Now your nails might not get done.
00:25:11.880 As before.
00:25:12.860 They're going to be like, she's blowing up, she's blowing up the industry that we're at.
00:25:15.400 But that's true.
00:25:16.380 That's why I say Jewish people have bought the black voice.
00:25:19.500 That's what you meant by it, is that they are, they're disproportionately represented in the media.
00:25:22.560 And so if something that you say is something that they, that you, they don't like, they won't allow you to have it said.
00:25:27.420 That's what you meant.
00:25:28.240 That's getting more specific.
00:25:29.660 Okay.
00:25:30.300 It's more specific, but my emotion about it as a human being, as a leader,
00:25:34.220 as a leader, I operate at every medium from the most brash and brutal to medium and understandable to highly sophisticated.
00:25:48.800 We have to operate in all those.
00:25:52.820 My feeling and my emotion, because I am a human being, I'm not a robot.
00:25:57.200 So if you take a woman can be scarred by men just off of one bad experience with a man, perhaps it might be a six-year-old girl that has an experience she shouldn't have had with an uncle.
00:26:13.920 And that woman ends up being a stripper or, you know, disliking men.
00:26:20.920 So imagine if that woman had that experience with 10 men, right?
00:26:28.160 So I can tell you there's, I've had 10 bad experiences with Jewish execs with, and these are the people, the Jewish people I come in contact with.
00:26:40.620 So if that woman had that experience with 10 men, she might say this term, men are all the same.
00:26:48.160 She could sing it.
00:26:49.520 She could say it.
00:26:50.700 And imagine if she was just like beautiful, like if she had like the face of Irina Shayk or the body of Candace Wannapool or the body of Kim or something like that, right?
00:27:02.980 Like it's, if this person like was just kind of stood back or like say it's like Halle Berry or something, like if they, if they just stepped back and were a bit timid to give a number out or, and somebody says she hates men, she hates men.
00:27:22.720 What do you mean all men and what men do a whole series of 80 outline things calling she's anti-menetic?
00:27:33.900 Is she anti-menetic because of her experiences?
00:27:39.800 And she allowed to have the emotion that because of her experience, now she hates, now she dislikes.
00:27:45.760 Because, you know, I'm going to say dislikes because it's considered to be hate speech, like, yes, I have a, I'm at a place where I'm like, I'm not going to talk specifically to Jewish businessmen because the Jewish businessmen are the ones who have done the things to me to hurt me and to hurt my friends, right?
00:28:05.860 So now I'm talking to Jewish businessmen's families.
00:28:10.380 That's why I said the Jewish people, because I'm calling the Jewish people to talk to the Jewish businessmen family and say, are you doing fair deals or with your version of the boys club, right?
00:28:24.340 This isn't the Catholic Protestant boys club.
00:28:27.380 This is people that have been through pain and rose to success, the Jewish business community.
00:28:35.860 I need their families, their dads, grandparents, wives, children to ask them, are you doing fair deals by God?
00:28:45.240 Because, yes, we do have Zionist Jews and we have godly, you know, take Friday and Saturday off Jews, right?
00:28:52.840 Jewish people.
00:28:53.380 And as Jay, in my position, I'm one of the darker Jews, black people's most loved by Jewish people, blacks, period, like for 20 years.
00:29:06.760 So that's the reason why God put me in this position.
00:29:08.820 You know, when with the, as I have to word it the right way, but with 2024, you know, coming two years from now, whoever goes into, whoever ends up into office by 2024 has to bring the country together.
00:29:32.840 There's no more of this divide.
00:29:35.100 So that means the funny thing about the Jewish media is I have their attention.
00:29:41.060 They love me.
00:29:41.760 They always love me.
00:29:42.380 I have their attention.
00:29:42.840 Now you're referring to media executives.
00:29:45.480 So like.
00:29:46.540 Executives.
00:29:47.040 Yeah.
00:29:47.340 Yeah.
00:29:47.560 So like TMZ is owned by Harvey.
00:29:49.180 And that's one Hollywood publication that would like be writing about you all the time.
00:29:52.880 Yeah, exactly.
00:29:53.780 So.
00:29:54.380 Harvey Levin.
00:29:55.340 Yeah.
00:29:55.960 My name is Jay.
00:29:57.620 It's not Kanye West.
00:29:58.360 I take it.
00:29:58.920 I take it like you calling Caitlin Bruce.
00:30:01.780 Like my name is Jay.
00:30:03.320 Like, so those little things also refer to me as billionaire, Christian billionaire.
00:30:09.440 Yay.
00:30:10.200 Matter of fact, I may legally change my name to Christian billionaire.
00:30:14.880 Yay.
00:30:15.500 So you'll be forced to call me Christian billionaire.
00:30:19.260 Yay.
00:30:19.980 So, because I got, since my name is Jay, I got a lot of room to extend it on the other side.
00:30:24.900 I'm doing prefix.
00:30:25.900 Uh, so, uh, that, uh, let's say I had a train of thought on that.
00:30:32.320 I was getting to, um, you were saying, you were saying the Jewish media and I just interjected
00:30:36.180 to say, you're talking about specific people in media, but what was I saying about the Jewish
00:30:40.200 media?
00:30:41.120 I don't want to like kind of ramble to find my point again.
00:30:44.580 Yeah.
00:30:44.960 It's a really good point.
00:30:46.140 Cause even like wearing that ticket, I'm like a bit sleepy.
00:30:49.000 Yeah.
00:30:49.300 It's just a really, that's what made through the wire.
00:30:51.720 I'm going to do podcasts sleepy for now.
00:30:53.520 When I do, uh, Bill Maher two days from now, I'm going to go in sleepy, right?
00:30:59.300 Because I have so much energy as like alien level African King that if you put me in a
00:31:09.280 normal podcast situation with an antagonistic, uh, media person, then they can get me to look
00:31:18.740 as animated as they would want me to be on stage or on a basketball court.
00:31:23.720 But in that setting, I have to speak.
00:31:26.160 So now I figured out the code to be as calm as, you know, they would like me to be in these
00:31:32.320 situations.
00:31:33.700 So, uh, but man, I'll, I'll get back to it.
00:31:38.040 Otherwise we'll have like another conversation.
00:31:39.980 We'll be good.
00:31:40.660 Yeah.
00:31:41.060 Fine.
00:31:41.420 Well, what we were saying.
00:31:42.640 Yeah.
00:31:42.900 But I just want to, the one I want to go back to though, um, what, there's two things
00:31:46.920 I want to say.
00:31:47.320 So first off, when I was coming on the plane, my podcast was on shuffle and, um, cheesy song
00:31:52.580 came on.
00:31:53.100 It was, um, he says, Oh, I don't know.
00:32:02.000 He says, I dumbed down my audience to double my dollars.
00:32:05.740 They criticize me for it.
00:32:07.260 Yet they all yell, holla.
00:32:08.820 If skills sold truth, be told, I'd probably be lyrically Talib Kweli.
00:32:13.720 Truthfully, I want to rhyme like common sense, but I did five mil and I ain't been rhyming
00:32:17.840 like common sense.
00:32:19.260 When you're since got that much in common and you've been hustling since the only perception
00:32:23.320 for perception go with what makes sense.
00:32:25.840 Since I know what I'm up against, we as rappers must decide what's most important.
00:32:31.000 And I can't help the poor if I'm one of them.
00:32:33.820 So I got rich and gave back to me.
00:32:35.360 That's the win-win.
00:32:36.800 And I was just so stunned.
00:32:38.360 I ran it back like 10 times because I forgot how much I love that song.
00:32:40.940 And I was like, he's literally telling you that he is dumbing himself down.
00:32:45.100 And he has decided that the better thing to do is to keep the people that follow him stupid
00:32:50.360 and be able to help them by giving money.
00:32:52.540 Like I can't help the poor.
00:32:53.500 I dumbed down my audience to double my dollars.
00:32:55.900 Like he has to make a decision to be smart, right?
00:32:59.880 To be rapping, like Talib Kweli or to make money and be able to give back to people.
00:33:04.720 So he knows, and this made me think of you, because you said on that podcast that got taken down,
00:33:10.460 that information is the number one resource, right?
00:33:13.960 And he knows that he has to choose between giving the people information or having success.
00:33:21.140 And I was stunned by the verse.
00:33:23.920 And what record label was he on that helped influence that decision?
00:33:29.320 It was a Jewish record label.
00:33:31.260 Okay.
00:33:31.620 What was it?
00:33:32.320 I don't know.
00:33:32.800 See, I don't know the industry.
00:33:33.960 Universal, Def Jam.
00:33:35.000 Yeah, Def Jam.
00:33:35.920 He was definitely a Jewish and French.
00:33:37.560 Because you got Vivendi that owns Universal.
00:33:40.340 But French, that's super colonizers.
00:33:43.080 Like the French own 80% of African banks.
00:33:46.700 Nobody would be mad if you had tweeted that, by the way.
00:33:49.680 Of the French?
00:33:50.520 Yeah.
00:33:50.700 But that's because the French don't hyper-focus on controlling the Black voice like the Jewish media does.
00:33:57.420 So, but this makes me think, Drake is the best rapper ever by the numbers.
00:34:06.780 Jay-Z is the greatest rapper ever by the inspiration.
00:34:10.940 Yeah, he inspired me.
00:34:12.360 There you go.
00:34:12.920 He was smart.
00:34:13.820 You know what I mean?
00:34:14.400 Like he was talking business, but you either got it or you didn't.
00:34:18.320 He was telling you like the code that now I'm being stupid.
00:34:22.600 Like I'm giving you guys stupid stuff because this is how it works.
00:34:26.240 Like in order for me to stay successful, I have to keep giving you stupid stuff.
00:34:29.640 I just think y'all say you need to let him go get some pussy.
00:34:32.280 Seriously.
00:34:33.360 What?
00:34:33.600 What?
00:34:33.800 What?
00:34:34.160 What?
00:34:34.660 What?
00:34:36.040 What?
00:34:38.640 What?
00:34:46.040 Go to the DR or something like, you know what I mean?
00:34:50.080 What's that about though?
00:34:52.300 What's that about?
00:34:53.320 Are you good friends with him still?
00:34:56.800 Because you know what's missing from this hole?
00:34:59.080 I don't know if you're going to run that line or not.
00:35:01.260 I'm not.
00:35:01.940 This is going up on parlor.
00:35:04.160 Are you going to run it?
00:35:05.440 Yeah.
00:35:05.980 That's the bigger question.
00:35:07.160 You got to.
00:35:07.560 I just think like, man, it's like Jay-Z is like the head, head, head.
00:35:15.300 You know, we're under the fire and we're the firefighters.
00:35:21.600 But in order to be a good firefighter, you got to be willing to run into that fire.
00:35:25.820 And that's what makes me the number one firefighter.
00:35:28.780 That's what makes me Michael.
00:35:29.920 No, because I'll run into that fire.
00:35:32.460 Everyone knows that I'll run into that fire for the people in the burning building.
00:35:37.300 Who's the people in the burning building?
00:35:38.560 All of society.
00:35:40.140 Because Blacks and rappers are the thought leaders.
00:35:43.060 Like everyone, people, you know, if you go to a college, people have different majors, but everyone majors in Drake at the college.
00:35:55.800 It's very few people, even if they don't particularly seek to listen to them, everyone in the college knows the song.
00:36:04.520 So that becomes then the information, a part of people's curriculum and DNA of the way we think.
00:36:12.920 And what I've been saying is like the idea of free thought, the White Lives Matter T-shirt.
00:36:16.860 That's an idea.
00:36:18.820 Let's talk about idea separate to that T-shirt.
00:36:21.580 You have the idea for civilization to move forward.
00:36:27.500 What do we do in marches?
00:36:29.000 We marched.
00:36:30.120 And what's marching?
00:36:31.260 Walking, right?
00:36:32.280 In order to walk, what do you need?
00:36:34.200 Both legs in order to walk.
00:36:36.340 How do both legs work?
00:36:38.500 One foot in front of the other.
00:36:40.020 One foot in front of the other.
00:36:41.400 So watch this.
00:36:42.500 An idea is your left leg.
00:36:46.740 And actualizing, I like it better than execute, like universal, positive.
00:36:52.580 Forward movement language.
00:36:54.200 You actualize with your right leg.
00:36:57.200 You think the idea with your left leg.
00:36:59.720 You actualize.
00:37:00.380 You're moving forward, right?
00:37:01.340 But if you go into a place where there's thought police, they put the innovators into a place of crawling.
00:37:07.120 And our civilization is no longer moving forward.
00:37:10.560 And you can believe it or you can not.
00:37:12.740 And I can like classify as a black person and this and that.
00:37:15.240 But I'm challenging all the systems one by one, right?
00:37:19.860 That we will be happier.
00:37:21.800 And not only I don't love the word utopia seems over the top.
00:37:26.900 Not only find a happier way to live, we will actually survive because we can't survive by being oppressed, by having our thoughts oppressed and being afraid to say what we feel.
00:37:39.820 Because, hey, you know what?
00:37:42.180 We could feel something for a bit, you know?
00:37:49.660 And then if you get to do it, you can get over it.
00:37:53.360 Like sometimes like a kid can have a chocolate binge and they get the stomach ache and it only happens one time.
00:37:58.720 Or they can go and touch the stove and they get burnt and it only happens one time.
00:38:02.740 Right now, we're not getting the opportunity to touch the stove.
00:38:05.780 If I hadn't went so far, said the word DEFCON, right?
00:38:09.240 DEFCON.
00:38:10.860 Then I couldn't have, we couldn't have had an openly open conversation about what Jewish execs are specifically doing.
00:38:19.440 All of the conversation would have been said to be hate speech.
00:38:22.920 Like, how can I hate Jews that I consider myself to be Jew?
00:38:27.720 But then people say, well, you hate Black people because you were White Lives Matter.
00:38:32.020 And now, like I talked to Noriega this morning.
00:38:34.440 He was like, OK, I realize this.
00:38:36.360 I realize that I really don't feel prodigy die from choking on an egg.
00:38:40.840 Jumping in right here, because at that time, as you can see, both of us were really sleepy.
00:38:45.100 It was very late at night.
00:38:47.320 We were having that discussion.
00:38:48.280 And I hadn't even fully comprehended what he said there when he said that people don't believe that Prodigy choked on an egg.
00:38:55.980 And I had no idea what he was referring to.
00:38:59.080 And I just wanted to let you guys know that there was a rapper named Prodigy who began speaking out about the Illuminati.
00:39:08.340 He basically said, I have this platform and I want to use my platform for good to wake up the masses to what's really going on in society.
00:39:15.880 And so I am going to dig up this old clip of Prodigy right before he mysteriously choked on an egg.
00:39:26.080 And he decided to speak with Alex Jones.
00:39:32.140 Take a listen to what Prodigy had to say.
00:39:34.820 Yeah, they're doing all this ritualistic murder and rituals on little, you know, they're molesting little kids, doing sex, satanic sex rituals.
00:39:48.160 Like, this stuff is really going on in this world.
00:39:50.860 Like, on 9-11, you know what I mean?
00:39:53.080 And what they did was they killed 20 birds with one stone.
00:39:58.060 You know what I'm saying?
00:39:58.680 That's how I like to say it, you know what I mean?
00:40:00.720 Because they changed all kinds of laws.
00:40:03.640 They changed all kinds of, they changed people's mentality, the way they look at the world.
00:40:11.060 They pulled off one of the biggest ritualistic murders, you know what I mean, that ever happened, you know what I mean?
00:40:20.120 Live for the whole world to see.
00:40:23.080 So, there you have it.
00:40:25.060 That is Prodigy.
00:40:25.960 And like I said, he then mysteriously choked on an egg.
00:40:30.980 Maybe the first person in human history to have choked on an egg in some capacity after speaking out about the Illuminati.
00:40:41.640 Let's jump back into my conversation with Ye.
00:40:44.140 I really believe in a lot of the things that you're talking about, but we'd rather just accept the pain.
00:40:51.340 Pain is like first thing that drugs that we get, you know, as black people is like sugar and then pain and pain because of, and I know because I have a tendency, you know, to be masochistic.
00:41:03.340 It's part of my superpower, right?
00:41:04.880 Like the ability to deadpool the pain, to overcome, like, but I, like, I'm telling you like a good comment, a bad comment, someone calling you something can change how you feel.
00:41:16.160 People have sent me so many comments about, you know, me standing up about the information with Black Lives Matter and George Floyd that I actually felt happier today.
00:41:27.500 Like today has been my happiest day, right?
00:41:30.180 Because obviously there's, you know, you showed in your documentary that they hired thousands of people to go out in the street and there's a currency for outrage.
00:41:39.900 But there's also really intelligent Black people that are tired of our narrative being forced down, you know, forced to us.
00:41:50.080 I don't want to say down at the, it's not like pause.
00:41:52.640 So, but our narrative being forced to us for us to take, you know, what happened before with the media is, you know, they would go and get the best and the brightest to represent Black people.
00:42:08.780 And there's been a shift.
00:42:11.140 There's been a shift.
00:42:12.720 They don't want there to be another Beyonce.
00:42:15.300 They don't want there to be a Candace.
00:42:17.440 They don't want there to be a Ye.
00:42:19.180 They don't want there to be a Dr. King, a Farrakhan, a Martin Luther King, a Michael Jordan, Nat King Cole.
00:42:27.340 They don't want that.
00:42:28.700 They want to say, hey, we're going to take this person that was a drug addict and we're going to replace him.
00:42:37.780 We're going to replace Martin Luther King with a drug addict.
00:42:41.140 We're going to replace my dad, who was a Black Panther, with the Disney version of Black Panthers.
00:42:47.040 And the fact that Virgil passed.
00:42:49.700 No, I don't mean Virgil.
00:42:50.680 I mean, George passed.
00:42:52.100 I don't mean George.
00:42:52.720 I mean, Chad passed.
00:42:55.100 Now you can't talk about Black Panther or you can't point out that Black Panther was actually being used to erase my father's legacy and what he fought for as the actual Black Panthers.
00:43:10.500 And also, if you go to this one, I think it's called Maleficent, this other Disney film.
00:43:18.360 If you look up Moors, there's a Black guy with wings on next to Maleficent.
00:43:24.360 But that's not who the Moors were to us.
00:43:28.040 And it's so funny.
00:43:29.440 The first thing I said when I wore the White Lives Matter t-shirt in Paris, I said, you can't un-Google this.
00:43:35.920 But they took the interview down, so they're in the process of slowly un-Googling me.
00:43:47.680 They're in the process.
00:43:49.980 Mark my words.
00:43:52.040 They're in the process of un-Googling me.
00:43:55.240 And it's a balance.
00:43:59.980 It's like an argument that's happening inside of the Jewish media right now.
00:44:05.360 I'm like, do we give them the platform?
00:44:07.940 Do we not give them the platform?
00:44:09.560 Because not giving you the platform is almost proving your point.
00:44:15.940 Yeah.
00:44:16.180 Right?
00:44:16.460 So if you have a Jewish executive who makes a decision that you're not allowed to be on the platform, then you go, okay, well, you put my point.
00:44:23.580 Right?
00:44:24.020 That's why we're in your house right now.
00:44:26.700 Because they wouldn't let us talk on Daily Wire.
00:44:30.720 They're specifically for me having the claim, the possibility that the darker Jew known as Blacks that came from Africa could possibly be Israelites, that could possibly be Jew.
00:44:47.100 And I was, just to be super open, I was confused by it because I'm like, are we saying that there's no interesting as Black Israelis?
00:44:52.720 They live in Israel.
00:44:53.760 So I don't know.
00:44:54.380 Maybe Kanye descends from it.
00:44:55.360 Maybe I descends from it.
00:44:56.200 Who knows?
00:44:56.820 Right?
00:44:57.440 So I don't know why making that claim.
00:44:59.040 Like, if you got up here right now and you were like, I'm a white male, why would you need to be deplatformed for that?
00:45:04.660 Like, why would that be such a thing that you couldn't say that I'd be like, oh my God, I'm not going to say that you're a white male.
00:45:09.420 We cannot have you on the show.
00:45:10.640 And maybe people, if people could be transgender, why couldn't people be?
00:45:13.720 Right.
00:45:14.160 That's what I mean.
00:45:14.840 Like, what's the big deal?
00:45:15.940 Let's pretend that you're completely making up.
00:45:17.760 Why can't you just say that?
00:45:19.040 Like, why is that information, like you thinking that so crazy that it can't be said, you know?
00:45:25.040 Yeah.
00:45:25.260 If people could be transgender, why couldn't they be trans race?
00:45:29.180 You can define who you are.
00:45:30.880 Rachel Donaldson was trans race.
00:45:32.140 She got an OnlyFans.
00:45:32.940 She's not deplatformed.
00:45:33.940 She didn't get her Twitter account taken or Instagram taken.
00:45:37.580 So that's kind of the question that I had.
00:45:39.780 And I also want to ask you, like, going back to your analogy, why run into the burning building, right?
00:45:46.340 When the people inside of it are saying, we don't want help because they're so convinced that it's not a burning building, right?
00:45:56.360 So you either have the Jay-Z perspective where it's like, what I'm going to do is I'm going to send some firefighters to try to throw some water on it.
00:46:03.000 Because your perspective is like, I'm going to run into the building, rescue as many people as I can, and I might kill myself in the process, right?
00:46:11.280 Why not do what Jay-Z is doing?
00:46:15.880 Know, get to the top, know how it works, and just say, well, I'll do a little charity here in Zimbabwe is what it is.
00:46:22.340 Yeah, because just enough isn't enough.
00:46:26.160 Like, God calls us, and I believe God's going to call them, too, because they're dealing with it even in their positions.
00:46:34.020 You know, they don't, like I said, they don't want another, the media doesn't want another Beyonce.
00:46:39.140 They launched the BLM movement with Beyonce and Jay-Z.
00:46:43.960 Don't forget the Trayvon Martin BLM thing.
00:46:46.120 That was them marching in the streets in Brooklyn.
00:46:48.860 So I don't want to correct me.
00:46:50.160 Brooklyn, Beyonce, and Jay-Z, they launched that movement.
00:46:54.660 I can't say that they always, you know, make the right decisions and stuff.
00:47:00.760 They lost one of their best decision makers, being me.
00:47:03.960 Like, I kind of, you know, went into, you know, Calabasas for a little bit and, you know, blew it up, right?
00:47:14.660 You know, you got this person getting people out of jail, you know, like, you know, making billions of dollars, cultural influence, all this stuff.
00:47:24.660 And, you know, God has called me to move around.
00:47:29.540 Interesting, like, okay, so I'm at the BLM premiere and the, or the, the, the death of the, the, the BLM, the scam aspect of BLM.
00:47:45.700 Now, I want to say this, this may get picked up or not, that I felt when I saw Kamala was running for office and they showed this picture of her as a child, I saw my mother in that picture.
00:48:02.140 I wanted to vote for her.
00:48:03.420 I almost forgot I was running.
00:48:04.500 And I was like, oh, right.
00:48:06.700 And so when I see the George Floyd video, the way they capture it, the way it sounds, it hits me, right, in a place.
00:48:19.440 It's like you, you completely forget that the guy is on drugs.
00:48:22.960 You completely, all these different things.
00:48:24.460 And I just, it just hits, it hits me as a, as a black person.
00:48:29.600 I put that label, the label I've been given that I've grown up with, and I understand why it hurts and I understand why it worked for, for a moment.
00:48:42.700 But now we're in a place where we have to dispel the trauma and move forward.
00:48:48.280 It feels like all black people own are trauma, the word n**** and braids.
00:48:57.540 You know what I'm saying?
00:48:58.540 Can't nobody get braids.
00:49:00.120 You better not get braids type.
00:49:02.360 You know what I'm saying?
00:49:03.220 And then.
00:49:04.740 It's appropriation.
00:49:05.780 It's ours.
00:49:07.280 But where's our, where's our land appropriation?
00:49:10.460 Where's our, you know, company appropriation?
00:49:14.680 Where's our brand appropriation?
00:49:16.840 You know, we, we, we're the walking billboards for Louis Vuitton and Balenciaga.
00:49:23.480 It was interesting, just the shift, the, the tectonic plate shift of me closing the Balenciaga, opening the Balenciaga show.
00:49:34.340 And everyone, you know, from the culture, black people, white people, they were all into the idea that me, because I was ruffling some feathers.
00:49:43.200 It was right on the line of, is it too far?
00:49:46.380 Right.
00:49:47.120 And then I opened up the Balenciaga show and people were just like, what?
00:49:50.780 And it felt good.
00:49:52.280 It felt awesome.
00:49:53.420 And then I put up a picture and I said, war.
00:49:56.060 But little did they know that I meant war.
00:50:00.180 And then the next day I do a fashion show that's purposely sabotaged.
00:50:06.740 Like people, this is like rumors of Catholic priests, you know, levels, you know, sabotage.
00:50:13.060 They went and took the, um, I don't want to word it like that.
00:50:17.780 Cause I could be taking misconstrued.
00:50:18.820 I say they sabotaged the season nine show.
00:50:21.780 They went and took the microphones off of the children's choir to make sure that we started late.
00:50:30.840 That was just one.
00:50:32.520 And I was there when you were like yelling, like you were upset about that.
00:50:35.660 I remember.
00:50:36.040 Yeah.
00:50:36.420 They're saying like the mics off the kids, the mics off the kids supposed to be starting.
00:50:39.160 And that was one of a thousand things.
00:50:41.620 Even the, the lady that was, you know, there is now she's leaving the school.
00:50:47.200 She'll no longer be principal, you know, moving forward.
00:50:50.940 So, um, uh, that was just an example.
00:50:55.740 It was like, here's the shift.
00:50:57.440 And it started there and it gave the opportunity for the speech.
00:51:01.280 And it said, Hey, I'm the leader.
00:51:04.900 You will not un-Google this.
00:51:06.900 And they caught the picture of the t-shirt and it said, white lives matter on it.
00:51:13.820 And, uh, all hell broke loose.
00:51:17.100 But when hell broke, breaks loose, we have an opportunity for heaven to come through and
00:51:22.900 for God to use us.
00:51:23.940 And that's what's happening.
00:51:24.920 I mean, that thing was like two weeks ago, two weeks ago that that happened.
00:51:30.460 It's crazy.
00:51:30.940 It seems like a lifetime ago.
00:51:32.580 Literally.
00:51:33.180 I'm 80 years old as I sit in this chair.
00:51:34.760 See, you, you, you, you aging in Obama years.
00:51:37.600 I'm aging in Obama years.
00:51:39.120 I'm about to walk out of this and just have white hair.
00:51:41.620 I was just like, I mean, I got to a moment where I was just like, wow, how did a t-shirt
00:51:47.560 do this?
00:51:48.420 You know what I'm saying?
00:51:49.520 Yeah.
00:51:49.760 And you know what?
00:51:50.700 They're angry is because in my perspective, it was like, we wore the t-shirt and then they
00:51:56.280 did their usual media attacks.
00:51:57.820 And usually they're up against people that they can break.
00:52:01.620 Right.
00:52:01.940 So they needed me to post the statement.
00:52:03.980 That's like, you know, I'm getting my distance from yay.
00:52:08.420 And I've realized that he's made some mistakes so that he's off his meds and he's crazy.
00:52:11.980 And I hope he gets the help he needs.
00:52:13.780 Right.
00:52:14.220 I didn't do that.
00:52:15.520 That's what Chris Cuomo did.
00:52:16.740 Yeah.
00:52:17.020 Right.
00:52:17.240 So now they're going after my family.
00:52:19.180 Like they edited this photo, this video of me and you, I didn't even tell you this on
00:52:23.180 the red carpet at my premiere to make it look like we were in a relationship.
00:52:27.180 And this starts going viral.
00:52:28.780 Meanwhile, you know, my husband was 10 feet away.
00:52:30.320 He doesn't do cameras.
00:52:31.660 Right.
00:52:32.040 So they're doing, I mean, from every single angle, just trying to see if they can break
00:52:36.480 you and I having any type of relationship, which is fascinating because the same thing
00:52:40.840 happened last time.
00:52:41.660 And that was like the whole Blexit thing, except you took the bait that time.
00:52:46.200 Um, and then, and never, never, that's my never again.
00:52:50.840 Like I say, Kamala's our never again, because you are what black people wanted Kamala to
00:52:57.240 be.
00:52:57.820 You're exactly.
00:52:59.500 So thank you very much, uh, media for prepping, uh, the culture to be able to see what we,
00:53:10.640 what we really need.
00:53:12.760 And I mean, it's just such a godsend.
00:53:14.900 I'm just, it's, I'm just.
00:53:16.200 It's just hitting me right now that we started, that we, uh, absorbed this platform and, you
00:53:24.000 know, what we're going to be able to do with it.
00:53:25.580 It's incredible.
00:53:26.600 Uh, the question that I wanted to ask you on phone, um, do you believe that you have
00:53:31.260 bipolar who told you you were bipolar and when were you told that I was told that by a Jewish
00:53:38.820 doctor and the information was put out by a Jewish Hollywood trainer to the Jewish media.
00:53:45.620 Um, so, and that actually the day when they put me in the hospital, I had started reading the Bible really heavy and rewriting
00:53:55.380 Bible verses.
00:53:56.380 And when the Jewish trainer saw, and you're like looking like, well, that sounds pretty bipolar, but the, uh, the Jewish trainer saw that, put me in the hospital and then, um, said, um, and then put it in the press.
00:54:18.440 And the press being TMZ broken.
00:54:20.680 Yeah.
00:54:21.280 I don't, I don't remember.
00:54:22.240 I was in the hospital.
00:54:22.800 Right.
00:54:24.500 And why were you in the hospital?
00:54:26.880 Exhaustion.
00:54:27.480 Yeah.
00:54:27.680 I was going to say, you don't sleep much.
00:54:29.540 I mean, we don't sleep much.
00:54:31.280 I do.
00:54:31.780 I actually do sleep a lot.
00:54:32.820 It's my favorite thing.
00:54:35.920 I see that's Trump said, I'm sure you don't sleep much, but I do.
00:54:39.100 I sleep like six hours, seven hours.
00:54:41.680 I mean, anytime I disagree with the norm, people say, well, are you getting sleep?
00:54:46.580 They're so concerned about my health.
00:54:50.220 As soon as you put out that you have a mental illness, it becomes this thing where they can just stigmatize everything you do.
00:54:55.640 Everything they can discredit it, but what happens when, you know, everyone's wearing Yeezys or what happens when, you know, we change a color palette or a shape of something, a shape of a shoe, a shape of something in apparel.
00:55:11.560 What happens when we change the look of homes?
00:55:13.200 What happens when we simplify the way we think and the way we communicate, you know, then, you know, who needs sleep?
00:55:21.400 And you take something like Moses, I always tell people Moses was on speed and he stuttered or ketidin or whatever they called it, whatever that would have been, the biblical version of that.
00:55:32.620 But God had something for him to do.
00:55:35.000 And this is a God's dream, right?
00:55:37.380 This is something for me to do.
00:55:38.840 And God is on, God is on our side.
00:55:44.900 It's God's time.
00:55:47.020 This is why we're on this platform.
00:55:49.900 This is why God provided.
00:55:51.600 How is it that, you know, God told me, go to Nashville right now.
00:55:58.520 And, you know, Kierak, he was leaving out of town.
00:56:01.220 If Kierak had been in town, I would have went by his house to hang out and go to the studio.
00:56:05.320 But because he was out of town, when you landed, we were here and they were telling you as you were landing that I was not allowed on the Daily Wire.
00:56:15.860 And that's God guiding our path.
00:56:18.700 That's how the video game of life works.
00:56:21.280 Disney got the line for Snow White.
00:56:25.180 If you look at how thin the black line are on the Disney characters in the original movie that came from a French artist he was working with.
00:56:32.400 Similar to me, you know, working on apparel and getting a European designer to give that cut on something.
00:56:43.560 Or even like the biggest company in the world is an American company, but the lead designer was from London.
00:56:52.620 It was Johnny Axe.
00:56:53.440 So it's that mix of those that we got to look at all the talent on the planet and bring them into the American companies.
00:57:04.180 The American companies are the super forces.
00:57:06.920 That's PayPal, McDonald's, Amazon, Google, Apple.
00:57:13.180 And it's like, and now, you know, what Yeezy is slated to become because Yeezy's got one of the two most compelling founders living.
00:57:30.320 You know, the other one is Elon.
00:57:32.560 So that's us.
00:57:34.980 It's like Yelon to save the world.
00:57:36.960 You know, Elon or Yee-lon or however you want to have you want to worry.
00:57:40.660 I saw that actually up to date.
00:57:42.920 It's for us to, you know, come together.
00:57:45.500 What's so good is like Elon actually, he illegally can't become president.
00:57:54.240 So that means that at a certain point, like I have to be president, you know, and to empower.
00:58:01.940 It's like, it's crazy.
00:58:03.300 Like the current, the Biden menstruation, the Biden menstruation.
00:58:13.780 So the current Biden menstruation won't even talk to Elon.
00:58:20.640 Won't even speak to Elon.
00:58:21.920 Like, wait, what?
00:58:23.540 What?
00:58:24.740 Because he's what?
00:58:26.820 Not staying in line.
00:58:28.660 And that's the thing is like, I feel like they say that to everybody.
00:58:31.180 And I get, being called crazy when you're not crazy will drive you crazy.
00:58:36.880 Right?
00:58:37.200 I was being driven crazy by the fact that every time they picked up an article, they just kept, like, this is what I called you.
00:58:42.540 I'm like, they just keep calling him crazy.
00:58:44.460 And with Elon, it's like different attacks, but it's consistently saying stuff that isn't true.
00:58:49.480 And then you have everybody else, like the masses repeating stuff that isn't true.
00:58:53.340 You know what I mean?
00:58:54.440 And I just don't understand why I get frustrated.
00:58:57.020 It's like, how much more success can you have before they stop?
00:59:02.140 Right.
00:59:02.520 Well, that shows you they won't because it, my success, it's, the success that will happen is, this is the success, having our own platform.
00:59:11.400 So, it's not up to Twitter.
00:59:17.280 I mean, now, it's still on Apple, currently.
00:59:22.200 You know, it's still on Apple.
00:59:23.880 And it's still under the satellites.
00:59:26.580 So, there's a bit more freedom.
00:59:29.580 We're just at a different level of the video game.
00:59:32.300 You know what I mean?
00:59:32.640 It's just like, it's still some mountains to climb.
00:59:39.120 What I'm really big on, I want to talk about is, in our sleepy cast, the, and I'm going to go get some sleep, is, well, I touched on it before.
00:59:50.960 Maybe we can cut this to work together.
00:59:54.260 But to bring people together, the left, we always talk about the left, the left and right.
01:00:01.700 Well, we're one body.
01:00:03.080 We have a left and right.
01:00:05.000 So, we're really big.
01:00:06.220 Like, right now, the left is fighting against the right.
01:00:08.480 And that's like, if I was going like this, my left hand and my right hand, we have to fight together for our species, for humanity.
01:00:16.240 Because the right has some great things and the left have some great things also.
01:00:21.760 Like, the left is really good at media, you know.
01:00:25.020 So, and the left is not, they're not happy with the Biden administration either.
01:00:32.260 And we have an opportunity to really win the hearts of the left also.
01:00:39.680 You know, it's that, I'm really big on, like, when I made Stronger, Nicole Schorsinger from Pussycat Dolls was dancing to it, up and down, Record Plant Studio.
01:00:50.120 But then when I played it for Ice Pick, it was one of the executives at Rough Riders that's, rest in peace, passed away.
01:00:56.500 When he heard it, he put his nose up, like, he said, the whole thing sound like that?
01:01:00.160 And he wasn't into it.
01:01:01.400 So, I had this challenge of making Stronger, which is now Diamond, it's my biggest song of all time, it's a Diamond record, be able to play on Hot 97.
01:01:10.280 Hot 97, right, I'm ready.
01:01:12.960 I knew it was going to play on B96, which is a white pop station, but how does it play on Hot 97, which was, like, ran by Jay-Z.
01:01:22.860 And, not ran by him, but he was the most common voice on it at that time.
01:01:28.040 And that's the thing, to be able to, there is a way to appeal to both sides and find that place, that place of happiness.
01:01:38.960 There are things, there's things where, like, Trump and Biden had a lot of places where they aligned when I looked at their policies.
01:01:48.020 So, I'm really interested in really bringing happiness back to the world, bringing joy back to the world.
01:01:57.480 But, we have to call people on what they're doing for there to be happiness in the world.
01:02:05.440 We can't just say, oh, it's okay for people to, like, super complicate deals and to collude on deals and to not look at us as human beings, as artists and athletes and actors.
01:02:17.720 That we have to be willing to, like, stand up for that to be able to change something.
01:02:22.360 And we need to come together as a society to be the first civilization that actually became civil, you know, to stop war.
01:02:33.040 Like, people, it's a possibility of having a worldless world where the human species is not at war with each other, but we are more sophisticated because of social media, because of the information that we have now.
01:02:52.620 And we're just, we got to have people like us and God using us to push that to the next side.
01:03:00.160 And we got to get control of our country.
01:03:02.080 We have to get control of our family.
01:03:04.000 And right now, there has been an agenda in the media and in politics to remove God, remove the family, and to remove our country from us.
01:03:14.120 So, it's time for us to take control again.
01:03:17.880 And with God's, with God, and God's on our side.
01:03:20.600 So, that's what's going to happen.
01:03:21.580 And I've got faith in that, in Jesus' name.
01:03:24.720 Amen.
01:03:25.420 Amen.
01:03:27.240 There it is.
01:03:28.720 That was, like, presidential towards the end.
01:03:30.720 Right.
01:03:31.080 We could put some music.
01:03:33.520 What kind of music you want to put with that?
01:03:35.460 I'm proud to be an American.
01:03:38.600 Yeah.
01:03:39.920 And he's something like that.
01:03:41.220 Because, you know, I think about my boy, Mike Howe.
01:03:43.560 This is the guys that told me to go speak on Fox on The Gap when they were, like, making it look really bad on the floor.
01:03:48.300 And that's what started it.
01:03:49.280 And now, then it's like, boom, MSNBC.
01:03:52.480 And so on, and so on, and so on, and so on.
01:03:54.420 And we just keep on speaking up.
01:03:56.180 And this, I feel like there's stuff that we did tonight.
01:04:00.480 Do you want to do any other things that you want to put it?
01:04:02.660 Just because we can do, do, do, do, do.
01:04:04.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:05.820 I'll move everything.
01:04:07.500 I mean, that was, I had a list of things that I wanted to talk to you about.
01:04:10.340 I mean, we got more to go.
01:04:12.040 We should do one of these a week.
01:04:13.160 That's what I'm saying.
01:04:14.440 That's what I'm saying.
01:04:15.020 We should just start doing this once a week.
01:04:16.820 You know what I'm saying?
01:04:19.640 I'm, um.
01:04:20.500 Yeah, because I want to talk to you, like, another podcast about, like, the war on men.
01:04:25.920 You know, I want to talk to you about drinking.
01:04:28.880 Yeah, I think about a drink chapter.
01:04:30.100 That was promoting.
01:04:31.220 Yeah.
01:04:32.120 But do you want to hear something?
01:04:33.060 Like, did you know the word alcohol?
01:04:36.620 It's like.
01:04:36.860 It's like the spirit of Akule?
01:04:38.180 Yes.
01:04:38.760 Absolutely.
01:04:39.300 You knew that?
01:04:40.440 Yes.
01:04:40.700 I believe that.
01:04:41.980 It is.
01:04:42.720 It literally, yeah, kills your spirit and allows demons to come in.
01:04:47.320 You know what I mean?
01:04:48.480 And take over.
01:04:49.520 I 100% believe that.
01:04:51.440 I was, I can say this since this is our podcast.
01:04:53.980 I definitely was drinking when I put up the Def Con treat.
01:04:58.720 I definitely, you know, I had, you know, who's, um.
01:05:03.400 I want to say alcohol I had inside me.
01:05:05.960 But I don't know.
01:05:07.260 Hennessy.
01:05:08.700 Wow, it's interesting.
01:05:11.500 Hennessy.
01:05:12.320 It turns us gray.
01:05:14.480 And literally the demons.
01:05:16.340 Just come in.
01:05:17.520 Yeah.
01:05:17.860 No, I honestly, I was fascinated when I learned that.
01:05:19.740 The history of that.
01:05:20.560 And it's literally because when you drink, you become a different person.
01:05:23.040 It's literally like a spirit has taken over you.
01:05:25.280 That's why they call them spirits.
01:05:26.520 Did you know that?
01:05:27.020 That's why they call them spirits.
01:05:28.460 Yes, absolutely.
01:05:29.840 That's crazy.
01:05:30.880 How come we didn't put that information out earlier that you were drinking?
01:05:34.600 I don't know.
01:05:35.460 Nobody asked.
01:05:36.100 Well, no, because I didn't want to discredit.
01:05:39.300 Oh, here we go.
01:05:39.940 They'll be like, oh, now every time he tweets, he's drunk, you know?
01:05:42.920 Yeah, yeah.
01:05:43.720 Because it keeps on like taking away the fact of what I was like saying or what I was about
01:05:50.520 to do.
01:05:50.800 And also sometimes the truth comes through because it's another way to discredit, right?
01:05:54.260 This thing right here, we've got some stuff in it.
01:05:57.960 The temperament of it, the lighting, the feel, the two people that are here doing it.
01:06:02.200 Because we've been waiting for this one.
01:06:03.620 This is the one.
01:06:04.860 And this is the one that needs to be on Parla as the first God cast, as the sleepy cast,
01:06:12.460 the dream cast.
01:06:14.160 Dream cast.
01:06:15.200 Dream cast.
01:06:16.140 Dream cast.
01:06:16.920 I used to like that.
01:06:17.740 It was like Sega had a dream cast.
01:06:19.320 Yeah, I know.
01:06:19.780 I used to play on it.
01:06:20.500 Sonic.
01:06:21.200 What?
01:06:21.760 Yeah.
01:06:22.660 I love Sonic too.
01:06:24.020 Sonic is just a bomb game.
01:06:25.680 That and Donkey Kong on Nintendo.
01:06:27.760 You know what?
01:06:28.640 Donkey Kong on Nintendo was like another level.
01:06:30.920 The old school when you had to like put the...
01:06:32.240 Yeah.
01:06:32.780 We need to...
01:06:33.440 I like to talk and play video games because a lot of times the podcast is very like you
01:06:36.800 can't do something at the same time.
01:06:38.220 That was too complicated.
01:06:38.700 Xbox ruined everything.
01:06:40.060 Yeah.
01:06:40.380 Just too many buttons.
01:06:41.420 That's what I'm saying.
01:06:42.140 We need to go and play...
01:06:45.040 I mean, you made like the newer, like the Nintendo Switch has a...
01:06:49.240 Sonic that I just...
01:06:50.760 I used to meditate in this during COVID, during the...
01:06:54.320 During this pandemic.
01:06:55.460 During the pandemic.
01:06:56.700 The...
01:06:57.260 I...
01:06:58.680 You used to meditate to Sega?
01:07:02.160 What are you saying?
01:07:02.740 Yeah.
01:07:03.120 I used to meditate in video games.
01:07:05.040 And it's funny.
01:07:05.460 I would watch like WALL-E over and over and over and over.
01:07:09.120 And I had a cousin that just reads a lot.
01:07:12.980 And they were like...
01:07:14.180 I got a husband that reads a lot.
01:07:15.640 And he was just so mad at me that I just kept on watching the same movies over and over.
01:07:19.920 But if I like a movie, like I'm watching Norsemen right now, it's about these Viking
01:07:24.220 slaves that overcome things.
01:07:27.180 And it's...
01:07:29.920 You know, I don't know what God's plan is for me.
01:07:32.500 A Norseman, they fight to the death.
01:07:34.940 But I'm willing, you know, I'm willing to give my life for what God calls me to do.
01:07:39.580 But I think it would be cool to have a podcast where we're playing video games on a really
01:07:44.920 big screen.
01:07:46.060 And then we're just talking.
01:07:47.900 I also feel like, you know, my kids like to watch people play video games.
01:07:52.780 That's the weirdest thing ever to me.
01:07:54.380 As a whole culture.
01:07:55.480 Your brother's like that.
01:07:57.500 You do the same thing.
01:07:59.120 I'm like, this is...
01:08:00.060 Weirdo.
01:08:01.740 Watch your lives.
01:08:02.980 Watch it.
01:08:03.480 So if we're playing video games, that's actually going to pull it.
01:08:07.240 Imagine being able to even attract the entire video game community as voters.
01:08:14.200 Right.
01:08:14.840 Attract them on the parlor too.
01:08:16.600 But it's true.
01:08:17.240 Yeah.
01:08:17.500 They like me, by the way.
01:08:18.580 The gamers love Candace Owens.
01:08:20.300 I stood up for them with the BS.
01:08:21.760 The original Me Too was Gamergate, but that's a way deeper, lower thing that people can't
01:08:26.960 even talk about.
01:08:27.580 The gamers get what I just said with that.
01:08:29.180 But that was the original Me Too, and that's what brought me to my awakening.
01:08:32.040 So I like the gamer community.
01:08:33.580 But the only thing is, like, what game are we black?
01:08:37.240 That's a serious question.
01:08:38.560 Life.
01:08:39.020 The game of life.
01:08:39.840 No, no, no, no, no.
01:08:40.760 It has to be, like, a good video game.
01:08:42.080 You know what I'm saying?
01:08:42.700 Like, it's got to be one of the old ones.
01:08:43.980 It has to be, like, Donkey Kong or something.
01:08:46.060 Yeah.
01:08:46.540 Like, I don't want to play freaking Grand Theft Auto.
01:08:50.300 See, that's what you want to play.
01:08:52.000 I'm not big, big Grand Theft.
01:08:54.040 I mean, life is Grand Theft Auto.
01:08:55.340 I'm not...
01:08:55.840 I'm not...
01:08:56.460 We're in Grand Theft Auto.
01:08:57.780 Right.
01:08:58.060 That's the closest to the simulation of our life.
01:09:02.160 That and the Bible itself.
01:09:04.840 If you think it's, like, simulation theory in the Bible itself, it's like, okay, if you
01:09:08.380 pick your character, you're going to make the character in your image.
01:09:11.200 Yeah.
01:09:11.860 That's how the Bible starts.
01:09:13.100 Right.
01:09:13.560 That's exactly what it is.
01:09:14.360 So, I'm just envisioning where this God cast or this dream, sleepy cast or this dream cast
01:09:22.480 can go.
01:09:23.000 You know, I'm, like, ideating and envisioning the next frontier of where this is.
01:09:27.620 But I'm just overwhelmed by what, you know, God has done for me today.
01:09:37.160 I'm just...
01:09:37.620 I'm happier than I've ever been.
01:09:41.320 All right, guys.
01:09:41.800 So, there you have it.
01:09:42.920 So many thoughts probably racing through your head.
01:09:45.000 It's kind of a weird thing.
01:09:46.060 The outside was so loud.
01:09:48.180 The media, the headlines, the screaming.
01:09:50.340 And yet, this moment, I'm grateful to God for it because it was kind of the eye of the
01:09:55.820 storm.
01:09:56.620 And I think a lot of the stuff that he said was extremely valid.
01:10:01.920 And I look forward to hearing what you have to say.
01:10:05.720 And yeah, I'm grateful.
01:10:07.220 I believe that the only solution is more speech, not less.
01:10:14.060 And I hope that you carry that attitude with you because it's the only way we're ever going
01:10:19.640 to get closer to truth.
01:10:21.560 See you guys tomorrow.
01:10:37.220 May you in the next one?
01:10:48.920 Thank you.