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00:01:00.480 All right, you guys. Well, never in a million years did I believe that this investigation would

00:01:04.760 lead us to this moment, and I am not even referring to the lawsuit. I'm referring to something much

00:01:10.440 bigger. Foremost, I should let you guys know that it was announced just three hours ago that the

00:01:15.980 French government has collapsed. Oh, okay. Yeah, there it is. New York Times. French government

00:01:21.780 collapses. Again, deepening paralysis. But I don't want you guys to get distracted because I think

00:01:28.720 it is sort of a distraction, a little bit. They don't want you watching Becoming Brigitte Season

00:01:33.820 2. I personally think Emmanuel Macron wants out. No, instead they're telling the French people,

00:01:39.540 take to the streets. I hope by now you guys realize that these decisions, like who is going to be

00:01:45.380 president and when, those decisions are actually made in a boardroom. If you don't understand that,

00:01:50.540 then I hope you will by the end of this episode. So welcome back to Becoming Brigitte 2.

00:02:04.780 A lot going on, you guys. A lot going on. I want you to take me seriously when I say this,

00:02:17.400 okay? Seriously, I'm not trying to be funny here. Brigitte Macron does not walk right. She doesn't

00:02:23.460 walk right. There's a lot that can be discerned from someone's gait and I want you guys in this

00:02:28.820 moment to pay close attention to how she walks. Here is a clip of her walking out of a shopping

00:02:35.720 store in Paris. Take a look here. This is slowed down for you. Just look at the legs, the posture.

00:02:43.080 It's interesting, okay? And of course, to add to that, the now infamous clip of Brigitte as a drama

00:02:54.300 instructor. And you can watch the way that she walks, but more importantly, the way that Brigitte

00:03:01.300 sits. Take a look at this clip. And yes, it's real.

00:03:05.220 There's something about the manner that Brigitte is sitting that you look at that

00:03:19.960 as a woman and you go, that's just not the way that women sit, right? We do not widespread in

00:03:25.980 that manner. We tend to understand that when you look at that image, you're looking at somebody that

00:03:32.720 is a dude. But I'm more concerned in that moment of the way that she's sort of wide walking, right,

00:03:39.400 when you see her coming out of the store. I would say that that gait in particular is quite military

00:03:45.860 because it's difficult if you have been in the military for a long time to sort of shake that

00:03:50.040 training. Now, to remind you guys, Jean-Michel Trogneau, Brigitte's quote-unquote brother, has a

00:03:56.520 military file that the government is refusing to release for whatever reason. It is a pretty long

00:04:01.800 military tenure. And this is when Jean-Michel Trogneau sort of just disappears. You should

00:04:08.840 also know that what has been confirmed is that he held the rank of sergeant in Germany. That's

00:04:15.560 really relative. He held the rank of sergeant in Germany when he was at the Spires Club. And we can

00:04:21.880 track him the most that we can do in terms of tracking Jean-Michel. It's in large part thanks to

00:04:27.440 Xavier's book. To recap, I'm going to show you photos of Jean-Michel Trogneau through the years.

00:04:33.500 Here he is in 1953 in school in Amiens. We also have the 1954 photo of Jean-Michel in school in Amiens.

00:04:44.480 And finally, we have that 1955 photo of him in school in Amiens. Of course, the big photo, the big

00:04:51.540 premier was seeing him, which was very difficult for Xavier to get his hands on, in 1963. At the age of

00:04:58.760 18, he is in engineering school. But Xavier Boussard reveals in his book that that period, that time

00:05:05.560 that he was at engineering school, was a bit complicated. I want you to think of that period

00:05:10.980 of time as we would in America as a high school. It's the simplest way to think about that time.

00:05:15.720 So in 1963, at the age of 18, Jean-Michel should have been awarded his diploma. Instead, Xavier Boussard

00:05:24.840 discovers that for whatever reason, despite being in that 1963 class photo, Jean-Michel Trogneau hadn't

00:05:31.700 actually graduated. And there were all sorts of oddities as he was trying to get these files.

00:05:36.940 I'm going to read you this from his book. He wrote, quote,

00:05:41.500 The 20-page document shows, and that's he's referring to his school files, that Jean-Michel

00:05:46.240 Trogneau, then aged 18, the age at which typically the diploma is awarded in France, had not attended

00:05:53.920 school for the previous years, the previous three years. And he had no diploma, not even the BEPC, which

00:06:01.340 is normally awarded at the end of the third year. Okay, so that's weird. Where was Jean-Michel

00:06:08.480 Trogneau when he was 15, 16, 17? He also says that he had so many absences while he was at this school.

00:06:15.340 Then we fast forward to 1967, and at the age of 23, we know that Jean-Michel Trogneau is in Germany

00:06:21.000 at that spire club again. I want you to also know that that is in the Rhineland, okay? That's the area

00:06:27.760 that caused a lot of drama during World War II, right? German Rhineland. We also know, like I said

00:06:34.700 earlier, that he held this rank of sergeant. But Xavier Poussard, in his book, Becoming Brigitte,

00:06:40.780 is unequivable about exactly who Jean-Michel Trogneau is. He wants you to know that Jean-Michel

00:06:45.940 Trogneau becomes Brigitte. He wrote this, and I quote,

00:06:50.200 Therefore, we can conclude that Jean-Michel Trogneau has been living under the civil birth

00:06:55.820 identity of his sister, Brigitte Trogneau, since at least 1986. Logically, then, Sebastian,

00:07:04.000 Laurence, and Tiffon, Osier, Brigitte's children, are administratively his nephews.

00:07:11.200 That's remarkable that he wrote that in the book, because Xavier Poussard was never sued for

00:07:16.600 defamation. Why is that? Why hasn't Xavier Poussard, if that is the wrong information,

00:07:22.120 been sued for defamation? He is a French citizen. That would make the most sense.

00:07:25.820 That is a clue, you guys, okay? President Macron, who is panicking at the moment,

00:07:31.180 was unable to really offer an explanation for this lawsuit in America. He said that it was because

00:07:37.380 the story had become so big in America, they had to do something. The story had become so big in

00:07:44.800 America that they had to do something. That, my friends, is another clue. I'll tell you this,

00:07:50.780 when you panic, you tend to make mistakes. Even before we had jumped into this series,

00:07:55.820 the Macrones had already sent lawyers. They had already sent investigators to look into me.

00:08:01.960 Emmanuel Macron flew to the United States to speak to Trump shortly thereafter. So we have to ask

00:08:08.100 ourselves, what is it in particular about my voice and my reach within America that has the

00:08:13.960 Élysée Palace so concerned? While tracing the life of Jean-Michel Trogonot, Xavier Poussard,

00:08:20.980 unwittingly, I think, stumbled upon what is likely to lead us to the truth. Here was what he wrote in

00:08:29.020 Becoming Brigitte. He wrote, quote, or asked, rather, quote,

00:08:33.620 what did Jean-Michel Trogonot do between June of 1968 and 1973? Although little is known about this

00:08:43.520 period of his life, Brigitte has always claimed to have watched the 1969 American moon landing on TV

00:08:52.480 from the United States. Yeah. The answer is obvious if you're paying attention.

00:09:01.020 It's that Jean-Michel Trogonot must have been here in America from 1968 to 1973. They are panicked

00:09:07.880 because there is something here in the United States that we should have access to. The Macrones

00:09:13.740 very much needed the investigation into Brigitte's life and background to be contained to France,

00:09:19.900 right? Because Jean-Michel Trogonot wasn't in France during those years. Therefore, it is unlikely

00:09:25.920 that a French journalist could have solved the mystery alone. Unfortunately for the Macrones,

00:09:33.600 fate would have it that that French journalist, Xavier Poussard, teamed up with a very persistent

00:09:39.740 Candace Owens. More panicking, more mistakes from the Élysée Palace. The lawsuit filing in and of itself

00:09:47.400 was a bad idea. But beyond that, it was sloppy. MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra,

00:09:55.420 MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra, said 18 times. Dogs do not bark unless they perceive a threat.

00:10:07.280 So I will quickly remind you that we caught a Jean-Marie Trogonot, I'm thinking this could

00:10:12.080 maybe be Brigitte's father, on a ship in 1961, coming from France, stopping in Canada, and then

00:10:20.260 arriving in Oakland, California. And it's just our luck that that particular ship got caught up in a

00:10:28.100 lawsuit from that same year, which allowed us to know what sort of cargo it was carrying. Oddly, I had

00:10:34.300 mentioned to you guys that it was an 8,000-pound magnet. And I asked offhandedly, what do you do

00:10:40.920 with an 8,000-pound magnet? That's weird. My husband instantly said, that's military-grade.

00:10:47.200 Okay, interesting. Also, the person that was the captain of that ship was a man named Guy

00:10:56.140 Choplin. Okay? He was manning the ship, and yet we could not locate photos of this individual

00:11:03.020 beyond two pictures. And one, which is like his official filings as a captain, looks like he's a

00:11:09.380 child. Here it is. That's Guy Choplin there in the corner. All we are able to determine about Guy

00:11:15.820 Choplin is that he was born in 1910, and he died in 1994. Oh, okay. And then I kind of a little bit

00:11:23.380 think he's got the trogno face, like the ears. But that would just be speculation. So let's move on.

00:11:29.520 What is not speculation is that in the 1960s, MKUltra was in full swing across California.

00:11:37.080 And our government was pretty deranged, really deranged, at what they were trying to do with

00:11:41.960 that program. They were interested specifically, that's just one facet of MKUltra, in using magnets,

00:11:49.560 I kid you not, to hack our brains. I wish I was kidding, honestly, but you should know that among

00:11:56.740 the many projects that were using magnets, one was called Subproject 119. Government wanted to see if

00:12:03.540 they could alter our brain waves by using big magnets. Yeah, I'm not kidding. This was the era

00:12:10.980 of just deranged psychology. By the way, there was no era when psychology was not deranged, but this was

00:12:16.020 extra special. They needed to see if they could hack and control our minds, and electromagnets were a

00:12:22.220 massive piece of the MKUltra experimentation agenda. That project, in particular, the Subproject 119,

00:12:29.960 was led by two doctors at UCLA who realized that the brain, that brains irradiate low frequencies

00:12:38.040 with respective activities. So they're saying, oh, the brain's got these frequencies going on.

00:12:42.780 And they're wondering if they could then manipulate those brain waves electromagnetically.

00:12:50.180 Stanford University similarly picked up research regarding electromagnets in the early 70s.

00:12:56.160 That is, if you look throughout the Stanford yearbooks at that time, they speak a lot about it.

00:13:01.060 And like I said, I know this because I accessed those yearbook archives. They're very interesting.

00:13:06.160 The head of MKUltra was Dr. Jolly West. We know this. And per Tom O'Neill's book, Chaos,

00:13:10.800 we know that Jolly West went to Stanford University in 1966. And what I'm about to tell you about the

00:13:19.020 Stanford University prison experiment is going to positively shock you. Because of course,

00:13:25.340 you know me. I'm nosy. I had to send somebody there to access those files. And of course,

00:13:33.400 I also had to contact one of the prisoners that was involved myself. But first, I want to tell you a

00:13:40.640 little bit of background about the experiment, okay? So the reality is that the more dramatic stories

00:13:48.300 pertaining to the Holocaust did not actually begin to manifest until decades after the event. In fact,

00:13:56.100 even the stories about Dr. Mengele, an Israeli historian, Ephraim Zaroff, discovered that his image

00:14:02.440 among former Auschwitz inmates who were interviewed right after the war was harmless. The angel of

00:14:09.960 death who committed unspeakable tragedies evolved slowly over time. And in this evolution, regular

00:14:16.060 people began to wonder, are we really to believe that everybody just jumped in and took place and

00:14:23.060 took part in this evil? Are people just intrinsically evil that if you see somebody doing these terrible

00:14:28.340 things, you're going to jump in? Like all of these Nazis did this? Because, you know,

00:14:31.600 you got to justify the Nuremberg trials. You're killing everybody, right? And people are going

00:14:35.960 to ask that question. Is it possible that a person who has never harmed an individual in their entire

00:14:42.780 life can radically transform into a monster? Is there a quiet monster that lives inside of all of us?

00:14:50.960 Well, Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University set out to prove that, yeah, in the right environments,

00:14:57.220 very quickly, people are going to do unspeakably evil things if everybody else is doing it. If

00:15:02.320 management tells them, hey, carve out this person's eye, they're going to do it, okay? Almost

00:15:08.460 instantly, by the way. Without thought, they just do it because it lives in all of us. So you shouldn't

00:15:13.780 question any stories that you read. And also, you should be forgiving and understanding of future

00:15:20.820 military-grade torture like what happens in Abu Ghraib. This is just what people do. They get

00:15:27.300 sadistic. The Stanford Prison Experiment was funded by the U.S. Office of Naval Research. And I'm going

00:15:33.480 to let you hear Philip Zimbardo in his own words here explain how it all came together. Take a listen.

00:15:38.600 Our goal back in 1971 was to study the behavioral and psychological consequences of becoming a prisoner

00:15:45.400 or prison guard. To do this, we decided to simulate a prison environment, both physically and mentally,

00:15:52.040 and then observe the effects of this institution on all those within its walls. We used the basement

00:15:57.620 of the psychology building to stage our little drama, scheduled to run for two weeks. A card of small

00:16:03.520 offices was converted into a functional prison environment. It was complete with three cells.

00:16:09.220 There was a guard's room, the warden's office, my superintendent's office, and a closet used,

00:16:14.260 if necessary, for solitary confinement. We recruited the help of some prison experts to assist us with

00:16:20.520 our prison design and construction. Foremost among them was Carlo Prescott, an ex-convict recently

00:16:27.060 released from serving 17 years behind bars in San Quentin and Soledad prisons. We placed an ad in the

00:16:34.040 city newspaper asking for participants for an experiment studying the psychological effects of

00:16:38.780 prison life. They would be paid $15 a day. Over 70 people applied. They were given diagnostic

00:16:45.700 interviews and psychological tests to weed out all those with any signs of psychological abnormality,

00:16:52.500 medical disabilities, or history of crime or drug use. Twenty-four were selected. They were all healthy,

00:16:59.620 normal, intelligent, middle-class males from colleges throughout the United States. And with a flip of

00:17:05.100 the coin, each was randomly assigned to play the role of prisoner or guard. It was only by chance

00:17:10.860 that someone was chosen as prisoner or guard. By chance. Middle class. Okay. Zimbardo himself calls

00:17:21.460 the experiment a drama. So let's meet the prisoners. Let's just meet the cast because I think it's kind

00:17:26.920 of relevant. It's going to be very relevant. Pay attention. Let's go through these. First,

00:17:31.800 we have Doug Corpy. Doug graduated from Stanford in 1989. His father was a Freemason, a member of the

00:17:38.180 Sons in Retirement Society. We can also go to the next guy. Who do we have? Clay Ramsey. Clay Ramsey

00:17:46.860 was in the Marines and he worked on a merchant ship. I was able, by the way. You cannot find this in

00:17:52.980 Zimbardo's book or La Texier's book. I discovered these facts about these individuals. Let's go to the

00:17:58.740 next slide. Richard Yacco, prisoner 1037. His father was Samuel Yacco. Samuel Yacco was in the U.S. Navy.

00:18:05.820 He worked for NASA as an engineer. Richard produced and directed commercials for NASA. Okay. Let's go to

00:18:12.560 the next slide. Glenn Gee graduated from Stanford University. He's prisoner number 3401. He had a

00:18:18.720 degree in chemical engineering a year before the experiment. He received that degree from Stanford

00:18:24.740 University. Let's go to the next one. We've got Paul Baran. He worked for Halliburton after graduating

00:18:30.560 with a master's and a PhD from Stanford University. His father, we wrote, might be Paul Baran, the

00:18:37.260 electrical engineer who worked for the RAND Corporation. Next, Stuart Levin worked for Halliburton

00:18:45.300 Energy Services and Standard Oil as a geophysicist. He graduated with a degree from Stanford, a master

00:18:51.860 of science from Stanford. We've got Jim Roney, 4325. His father is Captain James Roney of the Moffitt

00:18:59.860 Naval Air Base, also commander of the ship that recovered the Apollo 8. His father was also an

00:19:06.680 aeronautical engineer who was the director of science and engineering at the Naval Academy. Okay.

00:19:13.060 We've got Jerry Hsu, who is prisoner 5486. We find out from Jerry Hsu that he spent time in Canada

00:19:21.460 before the experiment. Okay. He's originally from Pennsylvania and he's a college dropout.

00:19:28.640 Lastly, though, of course, is the prisoner that we're concerned with here is Thomas Williams.

00:19:33.920 Thomas Williams was homeless. We are told from Latexier in his book that he was an undergrad

00:19:42.200 who was living in his car before the experiment, and that's all we know. So I was interested, okay?

00:19:49.500 I was interested. We were also informed that one of these prisoners was actually a mole,

00:19:55.400 meaning that the prisoner was working under Philip Zimbardo and really just acting. This prisoner

00:20:02.820 was just an actor. I felt in my gut that that prisoner could potentially be the Jean-Michel

00:20:08.900 trogno lookalike, prisoner 2093. But we really only had one clue to go off of about that mole,

00:20:15.640 which was given to us via one of the prisoners named Jonathan Mark. I mean, one of the guards,

00:20:21.160 pardon, named Jonathan Mark, who did a Reddit feed in 2015. So that's 10 years ago. He jumps onto Reddit

00:20:29.740 and says, I was a prisoner in the Stanford. I mean, a guard in the Stanford experiment asked me anything.

00:20:36.520 And this is what he wrote in that Reddit post. He lets us know that the prisoner who was removed

00:20:43.380 from the experiment for a breakdown, that's Doug Corpy, was the younger brother of one of my friends,

00:20:49.480 but I never had any subsequent contact with him. When he was removed, he was replaced by a new

00:20:55.440 prisoner who was in fact a grad student working with Zimbardo who was placed as a mole to find out

00:21:04.000 what the student prisoners were up to. This new prisoner slash grad student was also an acquaintance

00:21:11.580 of mine. So while I didn't out him, and I'm sure none of us were supposed to know that he was a part

00:21:16.180 of the research team, nor was his background ever published to my knowledge, I knew who he was.

00:21:23.020 Okay. Now, I thought that that was really interesting. Just in general, first and foremost,

00:21:29.780 we're going to get to the timing that he posts this in 2015. He says very clearly there that the mole was

00:21:35.240 an acquaintance of his and also a graduate student. Macron gets elected in 2017. Thibaut Letexier,

00:21:43.840 a business management major, has a background in business management, randomly publishes a book

00:21:49.760 the following March about the experiment. And then some French girl, Juliet Eisner, then does a

00:21:57.260 documentary about the experiment. My instinct told me that the sudden very French interest in this

00:22:04.000 experiment was not actually random. And I can tell you that my instincts have been proven correct.

00:22:10.900 In Letexier's book, he asserts that the mole was a graduate student. He said this student was

00:22:17.400 receiving his master's at Stanford University. So he agrees with Jonathan Mark when he says that in

00:22:23.500 the Reddit feed. Except he is clear, Letexier, in his book, he names the mole. He said it was a student

00:22:29.980 named David Gorchoff. Came across the first mistake. The problem is that a simple check let me know that

00:22:38.660 David Gorchoff never received or pursued his master's at Stanford University. Factually, David Gorchoff

00:22:46.480 was an undergraduate student who happened to have a class with Zimbardo. So that felt to me like when

00:22:54.200 Xavier says, you got to tell kind of little lies to get people confused. I felt like I needed to confirm

00:22:59.720 who the mole was and to confirm why Letexier put in his book that it was David Gorchoff.

00:23:06.360 It was, of course, like I said, prisoner 2093, who is referred to as the Sarge, the Sargent,

00:23:13.460 in particular, that I was interested in. One, because obviously my eyes, he looks like Jean-Michel

00:23:19.340 Trogneau. Also, he, if it is Jean-Michel Trogneau, he would fit the description of a graduate student

00:23:26.040 that might have been working with Zimbardo. Zimbardo is referring to this as having a degree

00:23:31.180 of acting that's involved. And also, because when I access the footage that's publicly available

00:23:38.680 of that prisoner 2093, I am able to detect an un-American accent. Listen very closely to this,

00:23:47.980 okay? This is a person, when I hear it, that knows how to speak English but is struggling with their

00:23:54.920 R's, right? You got to bring in somebody like Hugh Laurie, you know, the show House. He, I mean,

00:23:59.840 I had no idea that that man was not American. It shocked me to my core. But most people,

00:24:04.940 when you learn a language, especially when you learn a language like, you know, English,

00:24:08.720 you might struggle a bit with the R's, maybe holding them on a little bit too long.

00:24:14.260 So I'm going to show you a clip of the Sarge, prisoner 2093, and I want you to pay attention to

00:24:22.700 the speech pattern.

00:24:24.800 If we were to wound you today, would you be willing to give up the pay that you've earned so far?

00:24:31.680 I feel the only answer to that question would have to be no, sir.

00:24:35.500 What?

00:24:36.420 My reasoning behind it would be that were I to give up the pay thus far, it would be an even

00:24:48.080 greater loss of five days of my life than it would have been otherwise. I feel that, in

00:24:55.400 other words, the pay compensates for the time it doesn't, sir. I began to realize more and

00:25:01.780 more during the five days that having the time to spend and study, to advance my studies at

00:25:10.000 Stanford University, could not be compensated by $15 a day.

00:25:14.900 Okay. I said, I feel like someone's trying to put on an American accent and it's about to get

00:25:23.640 weirder as we, like I said, of course, I had to send somebody to Stanford University to access the

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00:28:45.820 Okay. Remember, it should have been very easy for me to debunk myself on the point of prisoner 2093.

00:28:52.720 Was he the actual mole? Was this prisoner the graduate student that was working under Zimbardo?

00:28:59.540 So I decided we just have to learn everything that there is to learn about Sarge. You know,

00:29:04.160 Prisoner 2093, the Sarge. Surprisingly, Philip Zimbardo didn't actually publish a book about the

00:29:11.880 Stanford experiment until 2007. He releases in 2007 the book entitled The Lucifer Effect of All Things.

00:29:18.440 And I was wondering why that was. Again, as a part of investigation, you do have to speculate. You

00:29:23.440 have to think, right? You have the permission to think. And I'm going, is there anything going on

00:29:27.880 in 2007 that made this relevant? No. Okay. I download the book. If my theory holds that this could be

00:29:35.780 Brigitte, then I'm wondering, is it possible that something happened to Brigitte and or Emmanuel in

00:29:41.980 2007 that would have required this kind of going back, rewriting history, if you will? And as it

00:29:48.340 turns out, that just happens to be the year that Brigitte and Emmanuel Macron get married. They got

00:29:53.180 married in 2007. Now, again, I'm just thinking out loud here. In Zimbardo's book, he speaks about

00:29:59.820 the Sarge quite a bit. The description of him is that he obeyed all orders in a way that was almost

00:30:05.980 twisted that made people uncomfortable. More on that later. Now, some things, again, that could have

00:30:12.080 easily debunked my theory is just the physical description that we can find that's available

00:30:18.260 regarding prisoner 2093. What is his height? Well, in terms of physicalities, the Sarge was on the short

00:30:25.660 side for a male. The Sarge was just 5'8", okay? Brigitte Macron today is just above 5'6". And we know

00:30:35.960 that males shrink 1 to 3 inches between the ages of 30 and 70. We're all going downwards, okay?

00:30:42.840 So this is still a very, very much possibility. So I then decided, like I told you, someone's got to

00:30:48.480 go access the file. Someone must immediately go to Stanford University. I will put you on a plane.

00:30:54.860 And lo and behold, we made that happen. And there were just more unusual things when it came to

00:31:01.860 Prisoner 2093. First and foremost, all of the prisoners involved in the experiments and all of

00:31:07.940 the guards were made to sign a media release. Obviously, you have to sign a media release for

00:31:12.380 it. Their signatures, while they were signing this, obviously, were to be witnessed by a third party.

00:31:18.820 All of the prisoners had a third party witness, meaning someone other than Philip Zimbardo,

00:31:24.780 who signed off on their media releases, with the exceptions of Glenn Gee and the Sarge,

00:31:32.580 known as Tom Williams, both in the Lucifer Effect. His name is Thomas Thompson, and then he's Thomas

00:31:39.220 Williams in LaTexier's book. And the signature reads, Thomas C. Williams. But the only person that

00:31:45.140 witnessed that signing is dead and would have been a conflict of interest for a witness signature.

00:31:50.300 It's Philip Zimbardo himself. Okay. Then there was a box at Stanford University, which holds the prison

00:31:57.340 uniforms. Curiously, Prisoner 2093 Smock is missing. There's a small off chance that it could be in

00:32:07.080 Ohio. We have somebody going to access that now. They're being very cagey about what they have and

00:32:11.820 what they don't have. But suffice it to say, the majority is all supposed to be at Stanford, and it's

00:32:16.420 not there. Maybe because that would have held DNA of some description if you're sweating in the prison,

00:32:21.280 right? Also in the archives at Stanford is a list of all of the addresses that correspond to the

00:32:29.240 prisoners. Because remember, they had to pick up the prisoners for their fake arrest. These prisoners

00:32:34.520 had to be fake arrested so that they could, so they therefore arranged where the pickups would take

00:32:39.840 place. Prisoner 2093 is the only prisoner whose address is listed as the first floor of the

00:32:48.240 undergraduate library. The man has no address. Oh, that's right. He's living in his car. No way to

00:32:55.180 trace them that way. You can always go back with address records and look through things. That's a dead

00:33:00.260 avenue. On days four and five of the experiment, Philip Zimbardo allowed the parents to visit their

00:33:08.580 sons. And there exists in the archives a typed up list of those parents who visited. Zimbardo curiously

00:33:19.140 remarks that he's not sure who it is that visited Prisoner 2093. He writes, maybe his dad. Okay,

00:33:29.460 let's take a look at the individual, because this exists, there's a tape of this, who visits Prisoner

00:33:34.640 2093. This is the only footage that's been made available from Visiting Day regarding Prisoner 2093.

00:33:42.040 Take a look.

00:33:46.700 Now, there's no audio on this, but I don't think that that individual looks like they could be a dad.

00:33:56.080 This person actually looks like he's maybe the same age, exact same age,

00:33:59.380 as our 2093. Okay? There's also a digital archive, a typed up sheet, obviously must have been typed up

00:34:07.980 decades after, where they record that 2093 was visited by someone named Warren Farras. Okay?

00:34:17.140 Warren, last name spelled F-U-R-A-S. We have no idea who that individual may be. That doesn't even sound

00:34:26.460 like a real last name. I have looked through online available records. I can't find even one person

00:34:32.120 with the last name F-U-R-A-S to begin tracing. So that's rather mysterious. And of course, the biggest

00:34:38.120 thing is going through these media releases, which included, like I said, all of the guards and all

00:34:43.520 the prisoners. There is no David Gorchoff who has signed a release. But I thought David was the mole.

00:34:51.240 Surely, you would have had David sign one of these media releases if he was your mole.

00:34:56.560 It's been released to the media, this footage. So at the same time, I had Skylar, my producer,

00:35:03.940 reach out to Jonathan Mark, the guard who did the Reddit AMA. And he said he knew the mole. So the

00:35:10.840 easiest way to debunk myself, because truly I wanted to quickly debunk this, was to just have him say,

00:35:15.900 yeah, this is David Gorchoff. I know him. Miraculously, we were able to get in touch with Jonathan

00:35:20.900 Marks. He told us that he was happy to jump on the phone with me the next morning,

00:35:25.500 even though he was in Asia. So it was nighttime, our time. We got on the phone with him at about

00:35:30.780 10 p.m. at night. And the conversation, I mean, Jonathan Mark was detailed. He was descriptive.

00:35:37.060 He spoke about all of the flaws in Zimbardo's experiment. He told me that he thought LaTexier

00:35:41.800 did a really good book. And I told him like, no, I feel like LaTexier kind of left out the part

00:35:49.120 where it was one big giant conflict of interest because so many of these people had ties to the

00:35:55.260 military and the military funded the experiment. Then I asked him about that mole. I asked him

00:36:02.580 about that Reddit AMA that he had done just 10 years ago and got a little bit iffy. He told us that

00:36:08.700 the mole was, he thought, married to a girl that a friend of his in high school used to date. But then

00:36:17.000 he let us know. He doesn't really remember much about the mole. He doesn't even really remember

00:36:21.100 his name. Maybe it's David Gorchoff. He's not sure. I didn't feel great about that part.

00:36:28.480 So then I started asking myself, why did Jonathan Mark, the guard, suddenly do that AMA in March of

00:36:36.320 2015? That's nearly 45 years after the initial experiment. This guy jumps and he does an AMA on

00:36:42.080 Reddit to talk about this experiment. Ask the question again, thinking out loud, was there

00:36:47.380 anything going on in Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte's life that might have been significant? And I kid

00:36:53.180 you not, in March of 2015, the exact week that he did this AMA Reddit feed is exactly when Emmanuel

00:37:01.360 Macron is first introduced to the French public. You can see this on his Wikipedia page. I can't make

00:37:08.580 this up. It says, Macron first became known to the French public after his appearance on the French

00:37:14.860 TV program de parole et des axes in March of 2015. Okay. That's pretty particular. I thought that's a

00:37:25.580 little bit weird. Let's just keep going. We got to, we got to try again. And I tell Skyler, reach out to

00:37:31.660 him this time with a very clear picture of David Gorchoff. I've now hunted that down. This person he

00:37:37.400 described 10 years ago as an acquaintance, he was supposedly, this guy is supposedly the mole,

00:37:45.080 ask him point blank whether or not this man, this photo of this man was the mole that he remembers in

00:37:51.540 the experiment. He tells us he doesn't know. He doesn't remember now. So that's a, that's a dead end.

00:37:59.480 At this point, I wanted to look more closely at the language of prisoner 2000, of prisoner 2093,

00:38:07.760 because even if you do master a language, it's difficult to master its delivery. Do you guys

00:38:13.580 know what I'm saying? Like there's slang, there's dialect, there's a certain swag and delivery when

00:38:18.320 you speak a language. So you can always kind of spot a foreigner. They're almost a bit too proper

00:38:23.160 is one thing. Obviously when you learn a language, you learn it properly. You don't learn slang.

00:38:26.860 And so we just decide to take a look at the transcript. So we can't hear him say this,

00:38:32.840 but there's a transcript that's available on the Stanford archive website of the Sarge. It's his exit

00:38:39.400 interview. And he's asked about his behavior, about him obeying every single order. He did not,

00:38:46.380 he did everything that he was supposed to do. He says, you know, he kind of loved the orders and

00:38:50.440 following along. And we're going to read from that transcript. Okay. This is what, um,

00:38:58.040 prisoner 2093 said. Let's pull up the transcript. I suppose you could say I was playing my best role

00:39:05.920 because I believe that life is really, it depends upon what role you play as to how you act in almost

00:39:13.900 any situation that I've been in. I can describe it in terms of the role that I am playing and being in

00:39:21.400 prison, having to follow all these rules. It was one of the first opportunities I've had to play the

00:39:27.220 basic role, or at least as far as I can understand the basic role on which the other roles are built.

00:39:34.460 And I can't describe self in terms of anything but role. I believe that the most important thing

00:39:44.060 is results and not what the attempts are. Person comes back to them and says, I'm not quite sure

00:39:51.300 what you mean by that. 2093 continues, I mean, I would change to most any role, not most any role

00:39:59.640 that can be built upon the basic role in order to accomplish what the basic role would want to

00:40:04.940 accomplish, but could not accomplish by itself. Oh, I see. Okay. And then they go on and ask,

00:40:15.780 uh, the person asks him, okay, I see. Suppose the random selection had ended up with you being a guard

00:40:20.400 instead. How do you think you could have gotten into the role of a guard? 2093 says, I think that I

00:40:25.820 could have gotten into the role of a good guard. I think I could have gotten into the role

00:40:29.440 to where I would be satisfied by someone else's standards. I don't know.

00:40:37.120 That's just weird. Can we just all acknowledge that that's weird? All this role talk saying the

00:40:44.020 self, what? That's not how Americans speak. Okay. That's certainly not you. You tell me this is some

00:40:50.500 person that was just in his car and was a student and that we're talking about everyone's on LSD

00:40:56.620 because the CIA is just putting it all over California. Hippie generation. Yeah, man,

00:41:01.420 that's cool. And this guy just pops in and is talking about the role of self and this and all

00:41:07.080 like it's way too proper. It's also weird. It's like detached from their self and saying that they

00:41:14.080 could fill any role. It feels like they're laughing at us a little bit there. You can compare that by

00:41:19.380 the way to other transcripts and the other people that are being interviewed sound like Americans.

00:41:24.240 They sound casual. This is Jim Roney, prisoner number 4325. And he's asked about whether or not

00:41:31.000 the experience has been hard on him. He says, it's a lot stricter. It's a lot. Well, it's my vision of

00:41:35.400 being a prisoner, something you see in the movies as someone who lies around in a cell. This takes a

00:41:40.500 little bit more than that. You have to give up just about all individuality. I'm doing exactly what

00:41:45.760 the guards tell me to do, just being pretty obedient. And then the person's going back and

00:41:49.400 forth. And you can just see it's when you go through the transcripts, everyone else is so much

00:41:52.260 more casual. So now I'm locked in. Something is not right with prisoner 2093. I don't know,

00:42:00.360 no, but I know, you know, I'm not kidding when I say that I even prayed on it because I felt

00:42:07.040 spiritually something very evil was going on. And all of this, I want to be clear as God's timing,

00:42:12.520 right? Because naturally right now, what's coinciding with this is that we are learning

00:42:17.320 and reading about Sigmund Freud. In my book club, we are reading The Assault on Truth. We are reading

00:42:22.340 about Sigmund Freud, the rapid abuse of children that was happening in Paris, how he gaslit these

00:42:29.280 children. He was working under Charcot in Paris when he then flips the script and says, no, no,

00:42:34.860 the children are attracted to their parents. It was incestuous abuse.

00:42:38.540 Um, and in the next book that we're going to read, we're going to learn my book club about

00:42:45.620 Sigmund Freud again, but we're going to learn about the fact that he was a Kabbalist. He owned

00:42:51.580 a Zohar. If there is anything to know about Kabbalists, it's that the numbers matter deeply to

00:42:59.400 them. Numerology is important. So I say to myself, the numbers of the prisoners, they cannot be random.

00:43:07.380 Like they are random, but they can't be random. They have to hold some sort of a meaning. They're

00:43:12.900 all over the place, right? Some of them are three digits. Some of them are four digits.

00:43:16.780 There's no flow. Why would somebody do this more than anything else? Just difficult for you. If

00:43:21.080 you're controlling this experiment, it's difficult to keep track of all of these numbers. When you just

00:43:25.800 want to make somebody like three, four, five, whatever it is. And then it hits me. Everything about

00:43:32.940 this experiment is military. These numbers must be military. They must hold military significance.

00:43:40.600 And lo and behold, I'm so ignorant about the military. I didn't know. You've got a letter in

00:43:44.680 the Navy. How do you send a letter to someone that is on a military base? What does it mean

00:43:50.400 when you put a zip code and then you have to attach to it a unit number? If you're going to send mail,

00:43:58.040 it corresponds to military bases. And lo and behold, the prisoner numbers just so happen to correspond

00:44:04.920 to 1971 military bases. And I'm going to go through those for you guys right now.

00:44:13.200 Doug Corby's was 8612. That is the number that was assigned for the Naval Weapons Station in Long

00:44:22.720 Beach, California. And it is incredible. That one took me a while to hack because apparently when

00:44:29.500 it's a medical center, a medical facility, they give them what's known as DMIS numbers. But again,

00:44:34.920 Long Beach, California. We then have Clay Ramsey, 416, correlates to the engineering team in Vietnam,

00:44:42.380 the Naval CB team, 416. I found their yearbook. I'm going through it and I suspect that I'm going to

00:44:49.340 find a familiar base. 1037. I told you that Richard Yakko's father was in the Navy. I told you he was

00:44:56.940 an engineer. That corresponds to the USS Bronstein. The commander was Stanley Thomas Counts, who ran

00:45:04.600 engineering at Hughes Aircraft. Ship hole 1037. Glenn Gee, that 3401 corresponds to the USS Darter.

00:45:17.340 Darter in 1971 was moved to San Diego in that very year to support 7th Fleet operations.

00:45:27.220 Paul Baran, 5704. That is the armed forces of Europe, Canada, the postcode 5074 and the Middle East.

00:45:38.920 Witt Hubble. We've been having trouble finding anything about Witt Hubble. So we are unsure about

00:45:43.400 7258. Somebody out there will be able to let me know. We have had trouble even establishing who his

00:45:49.240 family is if he's connected to the Hubble telescope. So we just have nothing but question marks when it

00:45:53.680 comes to Witt Hubble. Stuart Levin, 819. That was the Naval Post in 1971 in Spain. They sent out the

00:46:03.180 MC4 engineering team. They arrived there in July of 1971. Jim Roney, 4325. That corresponds to the

00:46:15.880 Moffett Airfield. I'm sorry, Camp Pendleton. And I'm remembering that right. Moffett Federal Airfield.

00:46:22.320 Yeah. Mountain View, California. Sorry. Where the Army Reserve's 7th Psychological Operations

00:46:26.660 Group is based. We also have Jerry Hsu. Jerry Hsu. We have Camp Pendleton CA. That is, of course,

00:46:37.200 also a naval base in California. And then, last but not least, and you guys don't have to show this

00:46:47.140 next one because I want to speak through this. Tom Williams, Prisoner 2093. Is this a naval base?

00:46:54.620 I get a hit, guys. I do get a hit of a naval base that it corresponds to, the naval unit rather that

00:47:00.860 it corresponds to. And it is the only naval unit on the list that is not American owned. And it just

00:47:09.840 so happens to be French owned. Clipperton Island. Who knew? A naval base on Clipperton Island. First

00:47:20.620 thing I'm thinking is, what the heck is Clipperton Island? I'm wondering if it's me. My husband then

00:47:27.100 says, he's never heard of Clipperton Island. And that's crazy because my husband is the king of

00:47:31.960 geography. Xavier Poussard says, he's never heard of Clipperton Island. So let me show you this island

00:47:39.580 that apparently not many people have heard of, that had a military naval base and presence.

00:47:46.560 That is a French island. Check this out on the map. Yep. Let's go in here. Clipperton. What the

00:47:55.320 heck goes on at Clipperton Island? It's incredible. Yeah, it is the, I believe it said the only French

00:48:08.680 island in the upper Pacific. I think that's correct. In fact, check me on that. So I'm wondering what

00:48:15.380 goes on on Clipperton Island. Nobody knows. Okay. It's like people are asking questions. The most you

00:48:21.520 can find really is that it's got a pretty gory history. I think even on that clink that you said,

00:48:26.460 that you just had up, it says that there's a lot of weird stuff that happens there. It's got folklore.

00:48:31.260 I'm wondering what kind of folklore? Why is France, what is France doing on Clipperton Island?

00:48:36.780 And now I'm starting to feel real sure that Prisoner 2093 is suspicious. So Skyler says,

00:48:46.780 let's just message Jonathan Marks. He's being open and communicative. Let's just ask him flat out about

00:48:52.540 Prisoner 2093. And of course, we should have done that from the beginning. The Sarge was a very big

00:48:58.140 deal. Per Zimbardo's book, all of the inmates allegedly hated him. They gave him that nickname,

00:49:03.800 the Sarge because he was so militant. Skyler texts Jonathan Mark and he tells him the truth. Hey,

00:49:09.360 we've gone through the Stanford files. We're a bit struck by the fact that there's no information

00:49:14.400 that allows us to look further into Prisoner 2093. His name, Thomas C. Williams. Can you help us out?

00:49:22.860 Like, who is this guy? Kid you not when I say that he comes back with the response and he says,

00:49:28.080 quote, I have no recollection of him and wasn't even aware of his existence. End quote.

00:49:40.380 Shut down. Shut down. Oh, I'm sorry. You were not aware of his existence. There was only nine

00:49:48.040 prisoners that were involved in this. You've been speaking about this from the very beginning.

00:49:53.380 You are in magazines. You were involved in documentaries. You were involved in the recent

00:49:57.820 documentary that was involved, that was about this on Hulu. You're telling me now all of a

00:50:02.240 sudden this prisoner who Zimbardo has featured prominently in his book, you don't remember?

00:50:06.820 You know nothing about this guy? You told us that you read LaTexier's book, that you read

00:50:11.960 Zimbardo's book. They talk about the Sarge. What do you mean you don't know he existed? That's

00:50:15.120 pretty strong. I know he exists. You don't know that he exists? Skyler goes back. It's a little

00:50:20.100 bit of details. This is the Sarge. You know, Thomas, don't you know him? He says, not really.

00:50:29.560 Nothing. Shut it down. Okay. All right. We're on to something here. It's a prisoner 2093 that's

00:50:38.200 being protected to say the least. Okay. The last piece of this that I had to solve for though

00:50:43.420 was Zimbardo's lie. But the biggest piece of the lie that he tells where he says these were all

00:50:48.320 middle class was when we realized, as I told you guys in last Thursday's episode, that one of the

00:50:54.540 guards, Chuck Burton, was a Rothschild descendant. Middle class kids? No, Chucky Burton. Granddad's

00:51:04.500 running Sears. You're the Hurtstatt family, like Hurtstatt, like the bank. What are we doing here?

00:51:11.580 Feels kind of weird that you're pretending to be a poor kid that was backpacking and needed 15 bucks.

00:51:16.340 And then now, if I'm correct, and this is Jean-Michel Trugnell, then that would mean that at

00:51:21.860 least two Rothschild agents, you could say, maybe, were there. Connections connected to the Rothschilds,

00:51:29.840 maybe a more appropriate way to say that. Chuck Burton and Jean-Michel Trugnell. Why?

00:51:35.660 What is it about the Rothschilds that would have put these individuals here? Historically speaking,

00:51:41.660 and I'm going on gut here, I'm thinking to myself, the Rothschilds are really only known to care about

00:51:46.480 one thing. I mean, this is a family that's been around for generations, but when we're talking

00:51:50.660 about gold, the Rothschilds come up, you know, just historically speaking. I know today that's

00:51:56.340 considered anti-Semitism, but it's just a fact, you know, they are known to care about banking,

00:52:04.000 the banking dynasty, right? And then I think to myself, okay, but obviously,

00:52:07.480 nothing was going on in 1971 pertaining to gold. You guys, you guys, this is crazy.

00:52:20.820 Wrong. Major stuff was going on, okay? So first and foremost, you should know that from 1959 to 69,

00:52:29.120 the president of France was Charles de Gaulle, okay? He was Charles de Gaulle. And what happened was

00:52:35.660 Charles de Gaulle got a little bit MAGA in the end because the conversation of globalizing the

00:52:43.880 Federal Reserve System was coming up. America had already domestically converted to the fiat system,

00:52:50.160 okay? So it used to be that your dollar was backed by gold. And then they said, you know what,

00:52:56.740 we're doing away with that. We're kind of moving to a debt society. The government's going to kind of

00:53:00.400 make the decisions, LOL, about what actually exists. America had already moved away from that

00:53:04.500 domestically. But in 1971, Richard Nixon is president, right? And they're talking about,

00:53:12.840 like, lo and behold, hey, we're going to do this thing internationally. Like, we are, like,

00:53:17.920 we're going all fiat. We're just going to globalize this Federal Reserve System, right?

00:53:24.420 Charles de Gaulle was anti this. He didn't like this at all. And he starts saying he's not going to do

00:53:29.980 this. And so, lo and behold, what happens is effectively a color revolution. People start

00:53:35.400 protesting in the streets in France. And he's got to just step down. It's got to be over.

00:53:40.060 Charles de Gaulle gets overthrown. Get out of here, you MAGA guy talking about concerns about French

00:53:46.700 citizens, making sure that they didn't become slaves to debt. You got to go. And in his place

00:53:52.140 gets installed, George Pompidou, okay? George Pompidou becomes the president of France. He was

00:53:58.080 initially the prime minister. He now becomes the president. And in 1971, the very year of the

00:54:07.800 Stanford experiment, guess what France did? France repatriated all of their gold from America.

00:54:15.920 They said, give us our gold back. We want all of our gold. And this military effort, obviously,

00:54:25.620 the military had to transfer this literal gold from America. It has never to this day been revealed

00:54:35.380 what naval ships were involved in moving this gold in 1971 from America back to, presumably to France.

00:54:44.560 I don't know if it went to France. Nobody knows. There's no answer to where all of this gold went.

00:54:50.600 I don't know. But it would make sense that maybe this could be a reason that if you are the Rothschilds,

00:55:00.100 you're concerned with banking, you would want to make sure that family members and people that were

00:55:04.480 very close to you were involved in this. So I am seized. I am seized. I must know

00:55:14.060 what goes on, anything. If you guys know anything about what goes on on Clipperton Island,

00:55:22.100 you must email tips at CandiceOwens.com because I'm onto this. If you guys know anything about

00:55:32.420 Prisoner 2093, the very mysterious Tom Williams, you must email tips at CandiceOwens.com to let you

00:55:42.180 guys know we have already gone through the files that are public and available on the Stanford

00:55:47.560 website. We know, I know that we are close here. And the implications, as I begin to look at what

00:55:56.820 was going on and this CB team and what these engineers were sent out to do in Vietnam and what

00:56:04.820 other teams that were involved in Korea, the implications here are quite severe.

00:56:12.180 We're talking about the Federal Reserve. You want to get unalived real quick as a president in America,

00:56:19.280 you start saying, bring back the gold standard. No, no, no, no, no. We will enslave the world

00:56:24.860 with debts. That is the purpose of the Federal Reserve. So I'm on to you, Prisoner 2093. Like I

00:56:34.320 said, the wonderful thing about the stupidity of this lawsuit is that it will allow for us to subpoena

00:56:42.080 this information. I'm sending you guys down a lot of rabbit holes, but certainly any information about

00:56:48.820 Guy Schoplin. Also information about where that moniker Thomas C. Williams could have come from.

00:56:55.740 Does it perhaps correlate to the military? I think I saw that there was somebody in the military named

00:57:00.180 Thomas Carroll Williams. Maybe people that can search in the National Archives. We can prod the

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01:01:02.420 Okay. Where are my military guys right now? I'm telling you, you would have cracked things a lot

01:01:07.360 faster than me. You're going to give me even more details about units, postcode 71. I need my

01:01:13.120 military guys ASAP. ASAP. Something funny happened. I read Chaos. Again, God thing that I read that book.

01:01:20.920 My friend sent it to me, my friend Paula. I read it. I'm learning about MKUltra. I'm learning that

01:01:25.900 it corresponds to torturing people in Vietnam. Like we were just like, literally, we're just torturing

01:01:31.340 in sadistic experimentation. And it's all leading to this moment. It's all leading to this moment.

01:01:38.300 Tropic writes, I wish true justice will be seen. Me as well, very much. Also, Tropic writes,

01:01:45.940 all experiments belong to the military. Good and bad. It's all about the military. Yeah. I'm thinking

01:01:51.160 that we do exist under the military. That's why I even noticed on some of my episodes, there are like

01:01:56.240 military bots, literally, people whose jobs it is in the military to dissuade Americans from watching

01:02:03.220 certain content. We saw a lot of that. When Israel wanted to go after Iran, you saw suddenly this

01:02:10.120 increase in bots. It was so botted. Marbley writes, is the CIA shirt a case of the truth hidden in

01:02:16.540 plain sight? We need to ask these questions. Maybe you can't see it, but it's how we say that we are

01:02:23.240 the new CIA, the Kansas Intelligence Agency. No, that wasn't me saying I was in the CIA. It was me

01:02:28.700 saying that we are the decentralized intelligence agency and we dropped this line because everybody

01:02:33.540 was like, we need a hat. So you can actually go get that. It's available on our website. We have

01:02:38.000 new merch. It's obviously tongue in cheek. If I'm in the CIA, man, I don't know what their aim is.

01:02:44.640 That would be absolutely crazy. Jay NoCal writes, it takes a lot of balls to be the first lady of France.

01:02:51.940 Liam Momberg writes, love and light from South Africa. We are with you. Jonathan Werner writes,

01:02:59.000 and thank you, by the way, I love South Africa. A lot of stuff, a lot of funny business going on

01:03:02.920 there and a lot of funny business that happened there. Jonathan Werner writes, hey, Candace,

01:03:07.140 keep spreading the truth. Have you seen the new trailer for the biblical horror movie, The Carpenter's

01:03:11.520 Son? I would love your thoughts on it. I have not seen the trailer. I don't watch movies anymore.

01:03:16.000 I just kind of read books. I'm just fascinated with learning real history because I think

01:03:21.460 that truth is kind of, I mean, what actually has happened, the events of our world is obviously,

01:03:27.680 as the expression goes, way stranger than fiction. Sparky writes, don't make too much about the 800

01:03:34.980 pound electromagnet, 8,000 pound electromagnet until more is known about it. They're commonly used in

01:03:39.740 cranes, in scrap metal yards. That's probably what it's for. Don't give Brigitte and Co. ammo. Oh,

01:03:44.900 no, there's more. There's more about that particular ship and what it was involved in,

01:03:48.100 but thank you for your commentary. I can only give you guys so much in one episode, but that's not

01:03:52.480 the only lawsuit that it was involved in. And of course, where it was going in California and what

01:03:56.920 time it was going there. Brian Schwartz writes, the basic role may be a brainwashing model for the

01:04:02.360 rest of the prisoners. Perhaps. Yeah, it's very strange. The interviews that you watch with that

01:04:08.740 prisoner, what's made available, they're weird. They're just very, very weird. And it feels

01:04:14.640 like theater. Mary Everett writes, I went through withdrawals when you were gone. Don't do that to

01:04:19.120 us again. You get no sick days. Okay, fine. Fair. I got it. Adventure Fun Times writes,

01:04:26.040 Hager says in his book, in the 1770s, Freemasonry was used to foment revolution,

01:04:31.800 not to practice the occult, and that some factions of Freemasonry were upset with other factions

01:04:36.420 because many were not practicing the occult. McCrone's close friends are pedophiles.

01:04:41.800 George Washington's close friends were devout Catholics and Protestants. We should really

01:04:47.220 talk about American history. Time to join. Okay, that's something we, everything you think you know

01:04:54.040 about American history is wrong, except for the fact that, yeah, it was a Freemason race and the

01:04:59.640 wrong Freemasons won, is what I'll say. Alaska Dog Lady writes, cradle Catholic who left the faith for

01:05:05.100 ages returned as a Protestant, but I've gone back to mass and the Holy Spirit led me to enroll my kids

01:05:10.320 in OCIC today. Celebrate with me. That is absolutely amazing. And let me tell you guys,

01:05:17.280 that is the one resource that they are most interested in. It is our children. It is incumbent

01:05:22.780 upon us to guard our children, mind, body, and soul. Not kidding. That is, there is, it's so obvious.

01:05:30.180 We now live in what I would describe a post-Epstein world, okay, where they're just masked down right

01:05:36.980 now. They are masked down in this moment. They are trying to lay on the Freudian strategy of

01:05:42.420 gaslighting us as they abuse us. Fick, the media is trying to make us think we're crazy. Why are you

01:05:48.040 paying attention? Like, nope. You guys have all gone masked down. Of course, by the way, I was telling

01:05:55.020 you guys that there's this show that was very popular in America. It is very popular, White Lotus,

01:05:59.720 and in this last season of White Lotus, there was unnecessarily incest, and people just turned it

01:06:07.740 off and didn't want to watch it. And then it turns out that there was this K-pop, very popular K-pop

01:06:13.380 singer that was in that season. She did not take part in the incest scene, but she had never before

01:06:18.920 acted. And she was put into this particular season, the incest season, so to speak. Well,

01:06:24.940 it turns out they believe she got this role because she is dating Bernard Arnault, who we know is in

01:06:31.960 the orbit of the Macrones. And Brigitte Macron herself gave that K-pop singer an award. And beyond

01:06:40.500 that, they have just announced that the new season of White Lotus is going to be filmed in Paris the

01:06:47.060 next season. So it's just, I don't know, there's just so much happening right now where we just go,

01:06:50.800 I don't know France, but perhaps the government collapsing is what needed to happen because I

01:06:59.760 don't know what is in the Élysée Palace. But it is not a woman named Brigitte Macron. It is not a

01:07:07.400 woman by any stretch of the imagination. And this person is quite evil, quite sinister, the things

01:07:12.320 this person, I believe, has always been involved in. So we're going to keep prodding the narrative

01:07:16.540 on the Stanford Prison Experiment. Send us everything you have. If you want to support

01:07:21.220 our decentralized intelligence agency, send us the tips to tips at CandiceOwens.com. Buy yourself a hat.

01:07:29.160 Decentralized intelligence agency is all over the world, okay? There's no way to stop us. We're just

01:07:33.640 all being awakened to how evil, how sick, and how sinister it all is. But Brigitte, wow, the linchpin of

01:07:40.780 it all, why make Brigitte the first lady? I want you to think about that. We're going to jump back

01:07:46.980 into it tomorrow. But that's something, right? Quite stunning to go, okay, you got away with so much.

01:07:52.180 What's this next step? What's this represent to you? It has to be almost theological. I'll leave it

01:08:00.080 there. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

Candace Owens - September 08, 2025

Becoming Brigitte： MK Ultra And The French Gold Rush.

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