BREAKING： Judge Makes Statement Regarding Taylor Swift's Text Messages. ｜ Candace Ep 155
Summary
Blake Lively's PR team has introduced a new term to the lexicon: "Toxic Positivity." They're using it in the press to describe the horror of working for Justin Baldoni because he's apparently "toxically positive." Also, the media is catching up to our podcast, apparently. We told you guys over a week ago that Taylor Swift was definitely getting subpoenaed, and now all of the sudden they're reporting this as breaking news, as exclusive news. Plus, I was able to join Theo Vaughn and Stephen A. Smith on their respective shows to talk about that.
Transcript
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But also don't be too happy because Blake Lively's PR team has introduced a new term to the lexicon.
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They're using that now in the press to describe the real-life horror of what it's like to work for Justin Baldoni.
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Also, the media is catching up to our podcast, apparently.
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We told you guys over a week ago that Taylor Swift was definitely getting subpoenaed.
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And now all of a sudden they're reporting this as breaking news, as exclusive news.
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Plus, in case you missed it, I was able to join Theo Vaughn and Stephen A. Smith on their respective shows.
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I'm telling you, it feels like everyone is moving a bit more to the center, and it's a good thing for our country.
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But some people are having a different experience with these sorts of conversations.
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Some people believe it is, quote-unquote, Satan that is on the march.
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We're going to discuss that coming from the Babylon Bee managing editor.
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I've got to vent about my two-year-old daughter.
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And sometimes it is running when me and her father are not there.
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Sometimes she slides up next to me and really sad, convincing face.
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And she'll say, you know, Mommy, the boys at school are not being very nice to me.
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And then I have to tell her that she doesn't go to school yet, and she's home full-time.
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And she has told us all sorts of things about her brother.
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But yesterday, she took it a little bit further, okay?
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She went to ballet class and told the other two-year-olds that her daddy was in prison.
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I don't know how to deal with how funny it is and to be able to try to tell her why she
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And I don't know where she's getting this stuff from.
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I presume from her older brother, who has an obsession with police officers in jail and
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Anyways, you guys, I'm just looking for help here.
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And speaking of toddlers, Blake Lively's PR team has thought up their next attack on
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They are clearly spending top dollar, as we have learned, using their former CIA agents
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that they've hired them to convince the public that the real problem in this lawsuit with
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Justin Baldoni is actually the fact that he's too positive.
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I got to tell you, after learning this, reading the articles, reading the deep dive, I am,
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Justin Baldoni accused of toxic positivity by former employees amid Blake Lively lawsuit.
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And that article is actually quoting from another article, which was featured in the LA Times.
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They're the ones that did the real work, the CIA work, you know, to get to the bottom
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of this very apparent flaw in Justin Baldoni's character.
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And I got to agree, because, like, you know, when I watch his videos, I'm like, my cousin
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And I never thought that this could be a term that could be used to dissuade the public
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It reads, but to some observers, his public gestures, such as filming himself giving clothing
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to a homeless man or asking employees to sign their emails with the phrase so much love,
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it felt performative, aimed at self-branding as much as bringing about genuine change.
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One employee says off record, quote, it was constant positivity all the time.
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I would say toxic positivity, end quote, said one former Wayfarer staffer.
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They continue, quote, I'm always a little bit dubious of people who advertise themselves
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as disruptors of the status quo or, quote, unquote, good people.
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Now, obviously, because this journalist is working on this huge explosive piece about
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somebody being happy or putting on a happy face at work, they went out to Wayfarer with
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You come up like, hi, I'm a journalist from the L.A.
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Times, and we have some employees that are starting to speak about you off record, and
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they're telling us stuff about how you act at work.
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And we are hearing that your happiness feels phony.
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They said, quote, there have never been any reports.
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complaints regarding the workplace culture or any communicated issues regarding the platforms
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If any guidance was ever provided to employees of how to conduct their written correspondence,
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it was to ensure that the activities of its employees remained professional and aligned
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Wayfarer believes that joy and positivity are the essence of good work, and they stand by
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Like, imagine a world where you can report someone for being too nice.
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I don't know how the HR department is going to deal with these sorts of complaints.
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I got out of my job of two years and I suffer from anxiety.
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I suffer from anxiety because I just think about how nice those employers were.
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I think ninety nine percent of people are phony at work.
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Like, you're even phony when you pick up the phone and it's your boss.
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Like, and then if it's your sister, you're like, hey, what's up?
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Like, you're not supposed to bring in your every emotion through the door at work.
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Like, I'm paying you to not bring in the trauma of your life.
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Be like, I just got, you know, got into an argument with a friend of mine and now I'm
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And then they would have felt, what, more grainy?
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No, they would have complained the other way, too.
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And so we've now moved within this lawsuit, which just shows you how frustrating this must
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be for the ex-CIA team to be like, find there, like, find me anything on him.
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And one employee is finally like, you know what?
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And I think that is the problem with trying to problematize Justin Baldoni.
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You just kind of come up looking pretty stupid.
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By the way, in case you're wondering, I'm all about making sure that we are learning on
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And I was like, what is exactly toxic positivity?
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Like, definitionally speaking, what the heck is this?
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And I took to Google so that you didn't have to.
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It says, toxic positivity is the practice of forcing an optimistic attitude, even when
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So if one thing upsets you, you don't take it out on somebody else.
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And so if there's someone in your life who's just been acting nice and you know that things
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are not amazing in their life or that maybe got off a harsh call, but they have a smile
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on their face, you too might be able to file a lawsuit.
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I just want one of those old school commercials.
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You know, have you recently been in a car accident?
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Have you recently had an employee that buttons it up and is always nice every single day to
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We left you guys off with their respective legal teams warring over the protective order.
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Now, we covered this extensively, but what it is coming down to is whether or not the judge
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is willing to limit the case to a standard protective order for all the text messages and emails
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that are received during the course of subpoenas, which both sides have already agreed to a
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standard protective order, or whether he will be issuing a rather extraordinary AEO, which stands
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for Attorney's Eyes Only Protection Order, which in many ways means that Judge Lehman would
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be removing himself as the judge of what the public should have access to, right?
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It would allow the respective attorneys to remove that power from the judge because they could
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Like, this is what is allowed to be seen by only the attorneys, and you can't even show
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You can't show Blake Lively, and we can just mark whatever document we want to, AEO.
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And I have been, I think, rather accurately referring to this as the Taylor Swift protective
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Well, Judge Lehman, while he hasn't made a final decision just yet in this matter, has come
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out and accurately assessed exactly what this case is.
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This is a nasty game of public relations, which began, in my view, when Ryan Reynolds and Blake
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Lively worked with the New York Times to pretend that they were being victimized by the fact that
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Justin Baldoni did not want to hand over his movie, okay?
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So this morning, the legal teams met virtually in a hearing, and that hearing was open to the public.
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It was not allowed to be recorded by the public, so we don't have an audio for you to listen to.
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There are 100 million reasons for these parties to leak information because the PR value is
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greater than complying with the court orders, end quote.
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So they are basically saying, if they're able to access all of this, they might leak it to
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the public, and you can't trust them to just abide by the standard protective order.
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a significant chance of irreparable harm if marginal conversations with high-profile individuals
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with no relevance to the case were to fall into the wrong hands, okay?
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We're talking, obviously, clearly talking about Taylor Swift.
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That is just absolutely stunning to me that they are making an argument while also trying to pretend
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Like, we just should be exceptional here because we are dealing with not regular people,
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And so Brian Friedman is coming back, and he sounds like the layman in this case.
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What the other side is asking for is because there is celebrity, because there is powerful people in
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the industry, somehow there is a different law that applies to them.
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Like, I have so agreed with every argument that Brian Friedman has brought forth.
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Would you do this if this was just some regular layman lawsuit, Your Honor?
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Because they're basically saying, well, if the public actually learns who we are,
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And remind you, this is not some, like, they're subpoenaing messages for three years.
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It's everything that's relevant to this case that can fall within the scope of this case.
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And Judge Lehman has looked at both of these sides.
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And by the way, in the background, you still have Leslie Sloan PR begging to be,
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that's Blake Lively's PR firm, begging to be let go of the case.
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I think actually they may have the worst messages of all, because they're just like,
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They're like, like I said, I have to assume everyone in this law firm is just extremely old
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and they're running this weird feminist playbook.
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They're just like, we don't care about, we generally don't care about your sex.
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And so Judge Lehman came back with all of these arguments going back and forth.
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He said he said all this near the end of the hearing.
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And that's interesting is what he's basically saying is this is already a very public lawsuit
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Obviously, he's seeing podcasters, TikTokers, the press that's following this, and he's recognizing
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People will think the court is corrupt if I, you know, honor certain things that I wouldn't
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And him just acknowledging that, I think, is quite honorable, like saying we just can't
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We're a court and we have to do things and make sure that the court is actually respected.
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And in recent years, I would say the courts have lost a lot of respect for reasons that
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they've handled cases, which people have deemed to be exceptional.
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And so I think him expressing that is important.
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Anyways, the press in this matter, and I do want to say this, I am dying to know what is
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Like, it's just crazy to me the length that they are going through to protect these messages.
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Like, it is indicating that there is something way darker in my view.
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And again, I did this whole thread over the weekend where I was basically just opening up
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to you guys or just like, I'm not even opening up, but like revealing to you guys.
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A lot of the stuff in Hollywood, it's just not what it seems.
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And I know this, unfortunately, fortunately, you know, I've been friends with a lot of people,
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Like, for example, it is 1000% true that there are fake relationships and there are trade-offs.
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I spoke about this on my Instagram, which is to say there are people who date other people
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because they want to hide the fact that they're gay, that 1000% happens, these beard relationships
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And it's not because they don't think Hollywood is LGBTQ friendly.
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If you're a part of my book club, we're going to get to the next book that we read is Hollywood
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Babylon, which is about the founding of Hollywood.
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And it was always extraordinarily gay, lesbian, lavender couples, gay men marrying lesbian women
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so that they could hide that they were gay or that they were lesbians as they began
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to impact culture. It's a fascinating book that's written by Kenneth Anger.
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We'll get there. But the reasons why they hide those relationships today is not because
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they're fearful of coming out of the closet. This is not the 1970s, but it's because
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they're fearful of how it will impact their career, which is to say that if you're a
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playing a manly man, right, in some capacity, they need to convince you that that portrayal
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is real, right? And if you knew that actually, wait a second, this guy's actually
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quite camp and he's married to another man, that role wouldn't sell for you.
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Like when you're in a theater, you want to be convinced by the character. Like, for example,
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I don't know, Bradley Cooper was like the most convincing alcoholic ever when I saw him
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in that movie with Lady Gaga, which is A Star is Born. And if you know too much about somebody's
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personal life or if it changes things, if I knew like Bradley Cooper was actually,
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you know, married to a man and actually quite camp, maybe I would be like,
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I don't really know if I buy this role of him and Lady Gaga together. So that's kind of the reason
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why they put together these lavender relationships or there's a trade up. So you have someone like
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Ami, I mean, Ari, pardon me, Ari Emanuel at WME. He's got a client that's new on his roster
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that needs a public relationship to kind of lift him up and which will allow him to get many more
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sponsorships. That's just like an asset that he's trying to build so that he can sell it at a higher
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price, which is just business. And then he's got someone who's got superstar power, like Taylor
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Swift, who is maybe willing to do that relationship because it, I don't know, there's like another
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album coming out and people want to listen to it more. So it's those sorts of trades that are made.
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And I was bringing that up on my Instagram over the weekend because like a lot of you guys were
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emailing me about Jake Gyllenhaal and it's a well-known thing. Like how did, you know, what was the
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falling out between Ryan and Jake? And it's a well-known thing in Hollywood that it was like a
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relationship ended between the two of them. There was no, nothing else beyond that. There's a lot
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of bi people in Hollywood. Doesn't like, I can't, I don't know what his true sexuality is, but it's
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interesting because I'm wondering if in this severity of this rush to protect Taylor Swift's
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messages and Blake Lively's messages, there could be something about relationship dynamics that they're
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fearful of the public finding out, which would actually deliver a very significant blow. Don't forget,
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allegedly she's supposed to be with Joe Alwyn. That relationship ends. She comes, she's with
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Blake Lively. Maybe we're going to find something out about the nature of Blake Lively and Ryan
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Reynolds' relationship or Blake Lively and Taylor Swift's relationship. You know, what is the real
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nature of Taylor Swift? Nobody really knows because she is a brand. You know, she used to date Jake
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Gyllenhaal. And what is this? No one really knows what the nature is. What if you found out that
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everything between her and Travis Kelsey was fake? How would that edit the way that you believe or the
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way that you deal with Taylor Swift? Like if you found out and she's just like in a message like,
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hey, WME is, I'm going to make me date this guy, Taylor Swift, you know, this guy, Travis Kelsey,
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like, do you want to go to these games or whatever? Actually, he's dating another guy. But by the way,
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I'm just saying this is like a scenario that could run. How would the public react to that?
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That is what I think is actually at risk here. There's something big, very, very big in this
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message, which is why they're asking for this extraordinary protection. Anyways, the press
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has been essentially behind us on all of these developments. They're acting like the girl from
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Mean Girls. You remember Karen Smith? Here she is. Hi, this is Karen Smith. It's 68 degrees and
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there's a 30 percent chance that it's already raining. Yeah, that's what it feels like if you listen to
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my podcast and then you read the press because we've been covering this stuff. We've given you
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guys all of the players. We've been telling you guys exactly what it is that's going on. And then
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the press is like, oh, my gosh, exclusive. One week later, Taylor Swift is being subpoenaed. That's
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what Daily Mail is reporting. Look at this. They're actually putting exclusive sensational new twist
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as Taylor Swift will be subpoenaed in Blake Lively, Justin Baldy legal battle and faces being
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questioned under oath and insider reveals. Yeah, that's my that's a podcast 10 days ago. Am I the
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insider? I don't know. And yes, they are acknowledging that she is going to be questioned
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under oath as a part of the saga and that a source close to the situation confirms a group of potential
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witnesses, which include depositions that are coming to give evidence and the potential witnesses are
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understood to be Taylor Swift. And the It Ends With Us co-stars Jenny Slate and Isabella
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Fairer. So and the staff at the talent agency WME, which represents Lively and executives at Sony
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exclusive, exclusive. Again, if you watch this podcast, you will have those exclusive reportings
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a lot earlier. Anyways, to wrap this up, I want to tell you what my prediction is. My prediction is
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that if Judge Lehman comes back and says no to the request of four attorneys eyes only, then this is
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going to move the case to settlement. Currently, there have been no settlement talks because both
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sides are saying that it's premature and technically is premature because if you have a judge that's
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willing to let you just write AEO on everything, why not go to trial? There's no risk. And at least
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you might be able to save face and say, oh, I always thought I was going to win. I'm shocked by this
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decision. Who knows what their game plan is? It's going to hurt them either way. But I think if a judge
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come back and says no to AEO, then they are going to settle. And that is going to be the end of the
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lawsuit that it will end with a settlement and statements from both parties. But we shall see,
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journalist this morning. You know, I do a bunch of, I guess you could say, press and people that are interested in
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various topics. And I think it went actually well. It was a Wall Street Journal journalist, and it felt like a very
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normal interview. I'm scared to say that. Anyways, she was just interested in kind of the shift into the
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podcast world and was just sort of asking my opinion about what's contributing to the rise of
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podcasting. And we spoke a lot about how now we're seeing people that are coming more towards the
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center. I think that that's been the major change. And I also think, obviously, this fracturing of trust
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in the mainstream media has been helpful and people are able to get direct to the source rather than hear
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somebody tell them about what that person is saying. And there's no greater example of this than me joining Theo Vaughn
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He is absolutely hilarious. I have, I think I've only shown you one of his clips in the past, but I sat
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down for a long form interview with him. And I just have to show you this montage of my favorite
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moments with him. As we discussed my husband being British, we discussed the Mandela effect. If you
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guys are not familiar with that, that's essentially, we all have the same memory of something, but they're
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telling us it wasn't a thing like fruit of the loom. Apparently there was no cornucopia. And I'm telling
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you there was, there was one 100%. And now there wasn't on fruit of the loom, but there was
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one. Anyways, Theo Vaughn and I discussing all of these topics. Take a listen.
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It would be great if your AC or whatever had like a Caribbean setting or whatever. And you
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writing war letters and stuff. That's how I kind of always envision them. They're always just looking
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out the window and writing about the war to each other. That's what my husband does all day.
00:24:27.620
Of course. Yeah. And then even Paddington Bear, their bear has a coat. He's not even like our
00:24:32.800
bears are naked. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying that that's the way to do it. But
00:24:36.600
yeah, if you bring up an American teddy bear real quick, let me see this topless bastard.
00:24:43.440
Paddington Bear is proper. Yeah. Now some of these are obviously some pretty right wing bears.
00:24:48.220
Put up a, uh, bring up a politically neutral teddy bear. A fascinator's a hat? It's called the
00:24:53.000
fast. Like the ones you wear to the wedding. Those are called fascinators, not hats. And there is a
00:24:56.720
difference. Bring it up. Yeah. Fascinator. Yeah. And he's not, I want to see, I want to see him spell
00:25:00.980
it too. Cause that's even, he sounds like a gay superhero kind of. That's how I feel.
00:25:07.600
Oh, and it's just a dude that shows up and it's like, he doesn't have any specific powers like any
00:25:12.600
of the other superheroes. He's just like more like exciting. He's like, Oh, there's fascinating Randy or
00:25:17.900
whatever. Pikachu. Okay. Did, was there, describe his tail? Pikachu short. Uh, let me think of him.
00:25:28.620
Yeah. Oh God. He's nasty. Uh, he had short little tail. That lady scoffed at me when I fell out of
00:25:34.560
that chair at the inauguration. He's like, Oh, Oh, like I had, like I was a fart that had come out
00:25:41.720
of her. Oh, this gross, this thing from steerage that climbed up here somehow this thing. I would
00:25:51.760
never get in a lifeboat on the Titanic. He's just hilarious. He really is hilarious. I was laughing
00:25:59.360
the majority of the interview, by the way. I love that the live chat people are just fighting over
00:26:04.860
fruit of volume. That is correct. Everyone who's saying there definitely was one. Yes, we are so
00:26:09.320
correct. We will go to war over this issue. My theory is we're just living in a matrix and they're
00:26:14.680
just deleting files. I described it as like, there's probably some intern who accidentally hit
00:26:18.660
the wrong button and we're just all computer program. And then they just deleted accidentally
00:26:23.080
the cornucopia. Like, Oh no, now the millennials are going to have a different memory of this than
00:26:27.620
Gen Z. And Gen Z is like, there was never. And we're like, no, there definitely was on fruit of the
00:26:32.440
loom a little, come on, but let's be real. And also what is Theovan's beef with Pikachu? Why?
00:26:39.320
Why did he call Pikachu nasty? No one ever in the history of the world has ever called Pikachu
00:26:44.240
nasty. And I think that we need kind of a further exploration of what happened between him and
00:26:49.580
Pikachu. If it was an incident when he was collecting cards, whatever, fantastic conversation. It's
00:26:54.180
really fun. But we also talked about some areas where we agree on, and obviously we have different
00:26:59.840
politics. And one of the great things about being able to host your own podcast is people get to come
00:27:04.580
directly to you. And so these sort of caricatures that they build of us on the left or on the right,
00:27:09.920
they just kind of fail the test when people can get direct to the information. And one of the things
00:27:13.900
they always made it seem was that I agree with Trump on everything. And I don't agree with Trump
00:27:17.540
on everything. And if you actually listen to my podcast, I disagree with Republicans on things all
00:27:21.400
the time. I just am a conservative. And most of my values align with the Republican ticket,
00:27:26.500
obviously. And as a Christian, most of my values align with the Republican ticket.
00:27:29.500
And so we were able to agree on something that we both disagreed with that Trump did regarding Gaza
00:27:38.120
or has said recently regarding Gaza. So here is that portion of the conversation.
00:27:43.220
To me, to speak about Gaza and talking about casinos and hotels and these people just lost their entire
00:27:50.080
families, it's so far removed from humanity. And I think it's wrong. And I'm tired of America being
00:27:57.840
used as Israel's piggyback. You know, for whatever reason, everyone can critique every other country
00:28:01.240
for taking money from us. And then there's just everyone's blind when it comes to Israel. And
00:28:05.980
obviously, I paid a very heavy price for saying that last year. But I don't care because I've I am
00:28:10.020
truly someone whose values have never been up for sale. Like, I don't care. I will burn everything
00:28:13.740
to the ground and rebuild it. I have to be able to like sleep at night. And to see those Palestinian
00:28:19.860
children and the images are seared into my brain, the screaming, the crying, the bleeding,
00:28:25.500
the stuff that we saw on X for the first time, largely thanks to Elon freeing the bird and really
00:28:30.380
realizing how much we had been lied to about what was happening in that region. I just it was very
00:28:36.420
easy for me to say, take whatever you have to take from me. I just I have to be on like the human side
00:28:40.480
of things. I think it's become both sides of the aisle now just see that, you know, human people just
00:28:48.000
feel like this is that it's just wrong. Of course, what's happened is wrong. Like, probably a year ago,
00:28:52.820
people were afraid to even say that. And now it is what everybody is saying, like even Piers Morgan
00:28:57.880
is saying it on his show now, like people are saying, it's obvious that you can't go and annihilate
00:29:03.880
and genocide this culture and just make them disappear. And then Trump to come on top of it
00:29:09.160
and say they're going to build who's going to you're going to go on a lazy river where there's
00:29:17.600
And that's kind of these moments where we get to come together and remember that we're all human
00:29:23.400
beings. And we were even if the mainstream media is attacking us all and calling us names, we can
00:29:27.480
still have this conversation about what we know to be wrong. And like essentially what we're saying
00:29:31.520
is that our morality is not going to be trumped by propaganda. And so it was a great conversation.
00:29:37.620
I hope you guys enjoy that. And you can go obviously find that on his YouTube channel or on
00:29:41.680
his Spotify three hours. And he is hilarious and great. On that same note, though, of this sort of
00:29:47.980
these propagandists are trying to convince us that our humanity is wrong or by speaking and
00:29:52.140
understanding things outside of the context of what's in our textbooks or what's happening on
00:29:56.520
social media. I mean, what's happening on the mainstream media is wrong. I'm going to show you
00:30:00.380
this tweet. And without giving you the context, if I didn't tell you what it was about, what would
00:30:05.640
you think it was about? This is Joel Berry. He is the managing editor of the Babylon Bee.
00:30:12.000
I very early on this year told you the Babylon Bee. It's just completely fraudulent. I mean,
00:30:15.820
these people behind the scenes are awful. And Joel Berry, though, has been having a meltdown
00:30:20.060
for a very long. He's just calling everybody names. But this tweet literally made me giggle.
00:30:23.620
I now think the Babylon Bee is funny. So here it is. There's an evil movement on the march.
00:30:29.980
Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. Pray for God to thwart the plans of the wicked and
00:30:42.580
You're like, what is he talking about? It must be really bad. Like there must have been
00:30:45.800
tons of people who died. Here's the full tweet, you guys. I will show you. He was talking about
00:30:51.980
Ian Carroll going on Joe Rogan. He's talking about speech. Ian Carroll, if you guys don't know him,
00:30:58.220
he's been on TikTok for like two years. He used to just go through the grocery hours,
00:31:02.020
how he started and speak about the companies that own all of the food and what's in the
00:31:06.220
ingredients. And he built up a solid following for these like sort of fun investigative TikTok
00:31:11.600
pieces. And he kind of hit my radar last year. And then he kind of hit it big when he had this
00:31:16.000
back forth with Elon Musk. I would say that's when he kind of jumped over into a million followers
00:31:21.220
a few months ago. And then Joe Rogan invited him to come onto his platform. And it was such a fun
00:31:26.480
discussion. They were speaking about things that are real. OK, MKUltra, if you're reading the chaos
00:31:30.760
book and you guys are part of the book club, you know, that's a real declassified government
00:31:34.780
program. The majority of the files have been destroyed. And just just the files that we can
00:31:38.780
see are terrifying about the experiments and the brainwashing that was done on people.
00:31:43.120
They also spoke about Epstein, why the files are not being released, what we can deduce from what
00:31:47.500
we do already know about Epstein via his network of contacts, contacts. And he is trying to say
00:31:53.100
that this is Satan on the march, like information being given to the people is Satan on the march.
00:31:58.960
And so here I will just show you a clip. It's a very long episode. It's three hours. You should
00:32:03.520
go watch it in its entirety. And let me know if you feel that Satan was marching or if you were just
00:32:07.780
listening to a very interesting conversation of independent media people discussing government
00:32:12.840
files. Take a listen. I think that when you study the MKUltra files, and this is where there's a lot of
00:32:18.680
conspiracy theories that are hard to prove. There's a bunch of witness victim testimony, but it's hard to
00:32:22.420
prove, is the Monarch programs are an alleged program that never got disclosed. And that's
00:32:27.040
all the programs that are hidden behind child sexual abuse being a part of mind control. Because
00:32:32.000
a lot of the drugs, like they can break people's minds and they can be involved in mind control.
00:32:36.740
But a lot of those papers talk about dissociative identity disorder as like the holy grail of that
00:32:41.980
Manchurian candidate concept. And it makes a lot of sense if you know what just how dissociative
00:32:46.300
identity disorder works. Right. And that is most commonly associated with dark,
00:32:50.280
grim childhood sexual abuse. And then you get all these victim testimonies, hundreds and hundreds
00:32:55.580
of people these days talking about how they were a part of these programs. Like people that were on
00:33:00.440
Epstein's Island that claimed to have been victimized as children and subjected to mind control
00:33:06.140
experiments paired with childhood sexual abuse.
00:33:08.740
It's, it's just so hard to believe that people are that evil, but they have been throughout history. This
00:33:14.240
is why it's weird. It's like, we'll look back on the Victorian era or we'll look back on the,
00:33:19.480
the, you know, the, the man boy love of the, you know, Socrates era. We'll go, that's just back then.
00:33:26.260
We've evolved now. We don't do that anymore. Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:28.940
But when the, when they've identified specific aspects of traumatic past that they can use these
00:33:36.800
particular victims of trauma of childhood trauma and take them and turn them into weapons. Yep.
00:33:44.060
That's so wild. But that's, that is an asset, right? If you got someone who's so crazy, you could talk to
00:33:51.220
them and get them to do things and give them acid and get them to Sirhan Sirhan levels or whatever the
00:33:57.920
they did to Jack Ruby. So this is like, this is Satan on the March, us learning about the things
00:34:04.260
that our governments have been up to. And I think this is the perfect opportunity to tell you guys,
00:34:08.420
listening to that, obviously, for those of you that got very invested in the Becoming Brigitte series,
00:34:13.060
everything he is describing in terms of childhood abuse and the idea that you could turn somebody
00:34:19.920
into a weapon. These are all the concepts that came up in our Becoming Brigitte series. As we went
00:34:24.080
through just the media completely lying to you about everything as it pertains to Brigitte Macron
00:34:28.780
and Emmanuel Macron. And on the back of this, this is insane. I learned that Emmanuel Macron has hired a
00:34:35.240
crisis PR firm in the United States. And this crisis PR firm has connections at TikTok. In one day,
00:34:44.020
all four of the Becoming Brigitte clips that we cut on TikTok were hit with strikes. And my account is now
00:34:50.380
facing a ban. OK, this all happened last week. It's been insane. And we are dealing with this.
00:34:56.080
And I think the best answer to this would be for people to go watch the series, to watch every
00:35:00.000
series that we do. But it is difficult for me to put into words how utterly deranged and psychopathic
00:35:07.860
it is that this man is trying to move through the United States court systems to shut down speech
00:35:14.760
and has now hired a crisis PR firm to try to deal with TikTokers to be banned for discussing the
00:35:22.420
truth about the person that he married. OK, he was never going to bring this court case into the
00:35:28.760
public, into Tennessee. I have dared him many times to do this because I told no lies. OK, I told no
00:35:33.360
lies throughout that series. So his best solution is to hit content makers on TikTok and to try to get
00:35:39.300
us banned for speech. This is, I hope, for everybody on both sides of the political aisle
00:35:44.800
and understanding for you of why speech is so important, because they can get you fired up
00:35:49.380
and they can get you to hate one person, whether that's Trump, whether that's Biden, whether that's
00:35:52.300
Kamala. But at the very moment that anybody who's purporting to be on the left or the right,
00:35:57.680
Joel Berry, the Babylon Bee, we're conservatives. No, you're not. OK, you guys are calling for speech
00:36:02.560
laws right now. You're pretending that Satan is involved. If people freely speak about the
00:36:07.220
corruption of our governments, if people like me and Theo Vaughn sit down and speak about
00:36:12.100
the corruption that we see overseas, you're panicking, you're freaking out. These people
00:36:17.420
are the greatest threat to our freedoms because it means that they believe that we should only trust
00:36:24.980
the experts. And what happens when we learn that the experts are corrupt? What happens when we learn
00:36:30.600
that the experts are perverts? What happens when we learn that the experts are actually corrupted
00:36:36.420
and taking money and doing deals to enslave the rest of us, just like the rest of humanity,
00:36:42.380
globalist deals? For those of you who watch the Becoming Brigitte series, it's terrifying
00:36:46.300
how how power can exist at the very top and they can go after journalists. We can't have that happen
00:36:52.140
in America. So a threat to the speech of Ian Carroll, Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn, Candace, give me a person
00:36:59.560
on the left who's being taken down for saying something even if I don't like them. It truly is,
00:37:04.740
in my view, a threat to our democracy. And that is why they are scrambling so much with podcasting.
00:37:11.100
They don't understand this independent media venture. They hate it. They are trying to smear
00:37:14.640
it. They're trying to say it's wrong. They're trying to call everybody conspiracy theorists,
00:37:17.980
Satan, whatever it is. And I want to draw your attention to that because what Emmanuel Macron is
00:37:22.560
doing is it's just there's no other way to describe it other than psychopathic. And there's more
00:37:28.140
that I haven't even told you guys. And I'm telling you, it's getting me to the point that I want to do a
00:37:32.080
second series on Emmanuel Macron because I will not tolerate this. I think it's completely
00:37:37.160
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AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. Okay, let's see what you guys are thinking in the chat today
00:38:44.160
about all of this. Oh, I also did Stephen A. Smith. That was another one that was great because he was
00:38:49.280
on the left and he kind of had to do this monologue. I think he was kind of fearful that he would get a lot
00:38:53.420
of backlash for having me on. And it was actually, I checked the comments, it was the opposite. People
00:38:58.540
were kind of refreshed by it. So things are cracking in the right direction. But if you want
00:39:03.480
to check out the Stephen A. Smith podcast, you can also find that available on YouTube and I think
00:39:08.640
on Spotify or wherever it is that you listen. Comments number one from John. John writes,
00:39:13.140
Candace, for the first Black female president, a shout to our girl Kamala. She paved the way for us
00:39:19.260
colored folks. Thank you very much, John. Emily writes, happy to see it. It seems like you and
00:39:24.840
J.D. It seems like you like J.D. Vance now. Am I right? Love you, Candace. I haven't met him. So
00:39:29.380
I'm a person, I'm telling you, I go on vibes and I meet someone, I get an instant gut mommy feeling,
00:39:34.920
you know, like it's like a superpower that women have. I haven't met him yet. There are things that
00:39:39.000
he has done that I think have been great and funny. But I'm just cautious about everyone because
00:39:44.140
I'm cautious about the government. I'm cautious about what happens when people go to D.C. and get
00:39:47.980
power in general. And I haven't done a deep dive on him. I have not yet done a timeline
00:39:51.920
about J.D. Vance. That's that's what I haven't done yet. I need to do my psychotic timeline.
00:39:56.400
Mishi writes, part of me doesn't want Justin to settle. He deserves to be exonerated. Yeah,
00:40:00.900
I know. I think about that often. Like, should he settle if there is an opportunity? Well,
00:40:05.120
he can be exonerated via a settlement, right? So you're just saving the court time, saving your court
00:40:09.440
costs. And you could say the only way that we're going to settle this lawsuit, which we think we're
00:40:13.020
going to win, is you make a full mea culpa. You make a video and you say that you lie and you can't
00:40:20.480
stop lying. And this has nothing to do with me being toxically positive. It has to do with you
00:40:25.300
guys flying too close to the sun and thinking that you were untouchable. And what you did was
00:40:29.620
demented and what you did was wrong. And if you say that to the public, then I'll walk away.
00:40:33.100
At that moment, it will be their ego on the line. And they could potentially have to do both by the end
00:40:37.100
of it. I mean, you lose a lawsuit. People that know that you lied. And on top of that,
00:40:41.000
you got to pay $400 million. I mean, it gets interesting, but I do agree that he should
00:40:46.320
not settle until he gets that full mea culpa. It's Archie writes, please don't stop doing
00:40:51.640
interviews with these independent podcasts. It's super dope seeing you in your element in
00:40:54.820
someone else's space and showing people who you are rather than who the media says you are.
00:40:59.100
I have some more that are upcoming. Don't worry, you guys. I tend not to travel a lot now because
00:41:03.560
I just have so many kids and it's just not worth being on the road. So Theo, I found out,
00:41:08.020
it was like my next door neighbor. Terrible neighbor. He never offered me a cup of anything,
00:41:12.200
sugar, nothing. I had no idea. I was like, wow, you live right here? This is crazy. I could play
00:41:16.080
pranks on Theo if I want, just so you guys know. Maybe I will. Maybe I will do that.
00:41:20.400
April is just around the corner a couple of weeks away and maybe I'll just play a
00:41:23.300
crazy trick and put Pikachu on his front yard. Nasty Pikachu just on his front yard. I think I might do
00:41:30.300
that. Theorist writes, I am crying about your daughter's cute little lies. Love you,
00:41:35.200
Candace. I'm like, what is this phase? You can't tell two-year-old that your dad's in prison.
00:41:40.420
There are rules. You can't reprimand these kids because it's so funny. When she just tells a
00:41:46.420
little lie, she's a pretty little liar and she just says stuff. And I'm like, that's just not
00:41:51.700
true. It's not true at all. And she tells me that she forgot her makeup. I'm like, you don't have
00:41:56.060
makeup. We're not turning the car around. You don't have makeup. We're just going to the farmer's
00:42:00.520
market, girl. Anyways, allegedly writes, Stephen Smith's closing monologue yesterday was fire.
00:42:06.120
Don't even think about challenging her. You better know what the hell you are talking about when you
00:42:09.840
come at her. She isn't going anywhere. I really appreciate that, as you guys learned in our sit
00:42:14.120
down. I've actually always been a fan of Stephen A. Smith. I used to have to watch First Take every
00:42:19.900
morning back when I was just a young buck in my early 20s. And yeah, it was great. Him and Skip Bayless.
00:42:25.300
And I think we actually have a quote. My producer is writing that. We actually have a 45-second clip
00:42:34.220
She's sharp as a tack. And you damn well better be if you're going to come for her.
00:42:41.780
Because ladies and gentlemen, like it or not, Candace Owens, she's not going anywhere.
00:42:48.580
Even when you thought she was gone, she's around. Number eight on Spotify's list of podcasts and
00:42:59.280
climbing. And she's in her 30s. She's not going away. No matter what summer you want, she's
00:43:06.820
not going away. Deal with that. If not, I get the impression she will make you.
00:43:18.580
Do you know what that was? That felt like toxic positivity. Let me go back to my definition,
00:43:25.540
because that sounded like he was toxically positive about me. Oh, okay. A practice of
00:43:30.880
forcing and optimism. Even when you're expecting negative emotions. Yes, that was that. I will be
00:43:36.800
filing a lawsuit against Stephen A. Smith for toxic positivity. I'm going to have the Hollywood
00:43:41.060
reporter write that up in many ways. I really appreciate that, Stephen A. Smith. I actually did
00:43:46.200
not. I missed that ending there. So thank you very much for saying that. And it does feel like we've
00:43:50.920
won in many ways against the mainstream media narrative about me. I'm definitely not going
00:43:55.840
away. And because I love what I do. I love speaking with you guys every day. I love hearing what your
00:44:00.120
ideas are. I like seeing what you're interested in. I like learning from you. I love being wrong
00:44:03.480
also. And like editing something and coming back to you. It just feels like we are we're in a
00:44:08.940
toxically positive relationship. Me and my podcast listeners. And so on that note, you guys, we will
00:44:15.560
see you tomorrow. We'll jump right back into the Harvey series, this time taking a look at Jessica
00:44:20.400
Mann, who put him in for three years in New York. Now that you guys are, if you're not caught up on
00:44:26.220
that, go. It is amazing to understand exactly what Judge Lehman is kind of alleging here or implying
00:44:33.040
here, which is like there is faith that is being lost in the court systems and people are being treated
00:44:37.380
differently. And unfortunately, for people who are disgusted with Harvey Weinstein, he was somebody
00:44:43.020
who was definitively treated differently in court because of clearly someone that was much more
00:44:47.540
powerful than him behind the scenes. I think that may have been orchestrating everything and a terribly
00:44:52.400
corrupt judge is what I would say. Anyways, you guys, we will see you tomorrow. And in the meantime,
00:44:58.700
if you'd like to head to CandaceOwens.com and buy our book, support our independence so that we don't
00:45:04.260
have to rely on YouTube when we get demonetized. We are not demonetized right now, but we were for
00:45:08.840
a very long time. Love you, mucho. We will see you then.