Candace Owens - BREAKING： Judge Makes Statement Regarding Taylor Swift's Text Messages. ｜ Candace Ep 155

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00:00:15.840 All right, you guys, happy Thursday.

00:00:17.660 But also don't be too happy because Blake Lively's PR team has introduced a new term to the lexicon.

00:00:24.000 It's called toxic positivity.

00:00:26.060 They're using that now in the press to describe the real-life horror of what it's like to work for Justin Baldoni.

00:00:32.680 I'm not kidding.

00:00:33.320 He's apparently toxically positive. 0.96

00:00:36.400 So lock him up. 0.99

00:00:37.200 Throw away the key.

00:00:38.300 We're going to talk about that.

00:00:39.580 Also, the media is catching up to our podcast, apparently.

00:00:43.120 We told you guys over a week ago that Taylor Swift was definitely getting subpoenaed.

00:00:46.620 Everybody ignored that.

00:00:47.780 And now all of a sudden they're reporting this as breaking news, as exclusive news.

00:00:51.260 Okay, whatever.

00:00:51.980 Plus, in case you missed it, I was able to join Theo Vaughn and Stephen A. Smith on their respective shows.

00:00:57.640 And you know what?

00:00:58.040 It's really great.

00:00:58.760 I'm telling you, it feels like everyone is moving a bit more to the center, and it's a good thing for our country.

00:01:04.080 But some people are having a different experience with these sorts of conversations.

00:01:07.140 Some people believe it is, quote-unquote, Satan that is on the march.

00:01:11.500 We're going to discuss that coming from the Babylon Bee managing editor.

00:01:16.000 All right, guys, let's jump right into it.

00:01:17.520 Welcome back to Candace.

00:01:18.540 Okay, before we get started, I have to vent.

00:01:35.140 I've got to vent about my two-year-old daughter.

00:01:37.600 Bless her heart, you guys.

00:01:39.280 She is two, and she has got an imagination.

00:01:42.060 And that imagination is running.

00:01:43.620 And sometimes it is running when me and her father are not there.

00:01:46.740 Sometimes she slides up next to me and really sad, convincing face.

00:01:51.360 And she'll say, you know, Mommy, the boys at school are not being very nice to me.

00:01:55.740 And then I have to tell her that she doesn't go to school yet, and she's home full-time.

00:02:00.700 And she has told us all sorts of things about her brother.

00:02:04.400 She'll say her brother's sick.

00:02:05.820 Her brother's completely fine.

00:02:07.340 But yesterday, she took it a little bit further, okay?

00:02:09.520 She went to ballet class and told the other two-year-olds that her daddy was in prison.

00:02:15.280 Okay, guys, I don't know.

00:02:16.520 I don't know how to deal with this.

00:02:17.340 I don't know how to deal with how funny it is and to be able to try to tell her why she

00:02:21.180 shouldn't say that.

00:02:22.460 And I don't know where she's getting this stuff from.

00:02:24.320 I presume from her older brother, who has an obsession with police officers in jail and

00:02:28.440 prison.

00:02:29.600 Anyways, you guys, I'm just looking for help here.

00:02:31.360 As a mom, help me deal with this.

00:02:32.940 And speaking of toddlers, Blake Lively's PR team has thought up their next attack on

00:02:38.680 Justin Baldoni, and it's brilliant.

00:02:40.180 It's exceptional.

00:02:40.900 They are clearly spending top dollar, as we have learned, using their former CIA agents

00:02:47.740 that they've hired them to convince the public that the real problem in this lawsuit with

00:02:53.060 Justin Baldoni is actually the fact that he's too positive.

00:02:58.020 I got to tell you, after learning this, reading the articles, reading the deep dive, I am,

00:03:02.220 in fact, prepared to switch teams.

00:03:04.540 And so I want to show you it.

00:03:05.340 Maybe you're going to feel the exact same way.

00:03:06.640 Check out this headline in the New York Post.

00:03:08.360 This is a real headline.

00:03:09.540 Justin Baldoni accused of toxic positivity by former employees amid Blake Lively lawsuit.

00:03:16.880 And here's a direct quote.

00:03:18.460 It felt phony.

00:03:20.920 Oh, yeah.

00:03:23.180 And that article is actually quoting from another article, which was featured in the LA Times.

00:03:27.900 They're the ones that did the real work, the CIA work, you know, to get to the bottom

00:03:31.340 of this very apparent flaw in Justin Baldoni's character.

00:03:35.000 And I got to agree, because, like, you know, when I watch his videos, I'm like, my cousin

00:03:37.440 is way too positive.

00:03:38.500 You know, it's toxic.

00:03:39.300 And I never thought that this could be a term that could be used to dissuade the public

00:03:43.160 against somebody.

00:03:44.460 And here's a quotation from that article.

00:03:46.400 It reads, but to some observers, his public gestures, such as filming himself giving clothing

00:03:52.860 to a homeless man or asking employees to sign their emails with the phrase so much love,

00:03:58.820 it felt performative, aimed at self-branding as much as bringing about genuine change.

00:04:04.060 One employee says off record, quote, it was constant positivity all the time.

00:04:09.880 I would say toxic positivity, end quote, said one former Wayfarer staffer.

00:04:18.180 They continue, quote, I'm always a little bit dubious of people who advertise themselves

00:04:23.340 as disruptors of the status quo or, quote, unquote, good people.

00:04:27.920 It felt phony.

00:04:29.880 Now, obviously, because this journalist is working on this huge explosive piece about

00:04:33.540 somebody being happy or putting on a happy face at work, they went out to Wayfarer with

00:04:38.680 these claims.

00:04:39.200 And you can imagine this phone call.

00:04:40.160 You come up like, hi, I'm a journalist from the L.A.

00:04:41.940 Times, and we have some employees that are starting to speak about you off record, and

00:04:46.900 they're telling us stuff about how you act at work.

00:04:49.260 And we are hearing that your happiness feels phony.

00:04:53.080 So what do you have to say to that?

00:04:54.160 Here's what Wayfarer said.

00:04:55.080 They said, quote, there have never been any reports.

00:04:57.200 complaints regarding the workplace culture or any communicated issues regarding the platforms

00:05:01.880 or its founders.

00:05:03.780 If any guidance was ever provided to employees of how to conduct their written correspondence,

00:05:08.100 it was to ensure that the activities of its employees remained professional and aligned

00:05:12.020 with the ethos of the company.

00:05:13.740 Wayfarer believes that joy and positivity are the essence of good work, and they stand by

00:05:18.400 this statement, end quote.

00:05:21.200 I don't know, guys.

00:05:22.920 It's a it's a hit piece of sorts, right?

00:05:25.460 Like, imagine a world where you can report someone for being too nice.

00:05:30.940 I don't know how the HR department is going to deal with these sorts of complaints.

00:05:34.520 I don't know.

00:05:35.100 I got out of my job of two years and I suffer from anxiety.

00:05:38.940 I suffer from anxiety because I just think about how nice those employers were.

00:05:42.620 They were so nice all the time.

00:05:45.140 And it felt phony.

00:05:46.000 Yeah, I want to be honest.

00:05:47.600 I think ninety nine percent of people are phony at work.

00:05:52.700 That's the whole point.

00:05:53.300 Like, you're even phony when you pick up the phone and it's your boss.

00:05:55.220 You're like, hello.

00:05:56.400 Like, and then if it's your sister, you're like, hey, what's up?

00:05:58.780 You know, that's the point.

00:05:59.640 Like, you're not supposed to bring in your every emotion through the door at work.

00:06:03.960 Actually, they're paying you to be phony.

00:06:05.580 I got to tell you something.

00:06:06.480 Like, I'm paying you to not bring in the trauma of your life.

00:06:09.400 Everybody has got trauma.

00:06:10.940 We don't need you bringing it into their room.

00:06:12.360 What is he supposed to do?

00:06:13.260 Be like, I just got, you know, got into an argument with a friend of mine and now I'm

00:06:17.340 angry.

00:06:17.760 And then they would have felt, what, more grainy?

00:06:19.680 No, they would have complained the other way, too.

00:06:21.780 They would have complained.

00:06:22.620 And so we've now moved within this lawsuit, which just shows you how frustrating this must

00:06:27.860 be for the ex-CIA team to be like, find there, like, find me anything on him.

00:06:33.400 Speak to former employees.

00:06:34.460 And one employee is finally like, you know what?

00:06:36.440 That man was so nice, it hurt.

00:06:39.000 Justin Baldoni is so nice, it freaking hurts.

00:06:45.040 Yeah, there he is.

00:06:45.680 Look at that monster of niceness. 0.54

00:06:47.800 And I think that is the problem with trying to problematize Justin Baldoni. 1.00

00:06:51.820 You just kind of come up looking pretty stupid. 0.98

00:06:55.700 By the way, in case you're wondering, I'm all about making sure that we are learning on 1.00

00:06:59.440 this podcast.

00:06:59.940 And I was like, what is exactly toxic positivity?

00:07:02.640 Like, definitionally speaking, what the heck is this?

00:07:05.680 And I took to Google so that you didn't have to.

00:07:07.660 Here is the definition straight from Google.

00:07:09.960 It says, toxic positivity is the practice of forcing an optimistic attitude, even when

00:07:16.940 you're experiencing negative emotions.

00:07:20.120 Yeah, so I do this with my toddlers.

00:07:21.880 I do this with my husband.

00:07:23.120 I would call this complementalizing.

00:07:25.020 So if one thing upsets you, you don't take it out on somebody else.

00:07:27.980 And apparently it's problematic.

00:07:29.820 And so if there's someone in your life who's just been acting nice and you know that things

00:07:33.660 are not amazing in their life or that maybe got off a harsh call, but they have a smile

00:07:39.760 on their face, you too might be able to file a lawsuit.

00:07:44.060 I just want one of those old school commercials.

00:07:46.960 You know, have you recently been in a car accident?

00:07:49.100 Have you recently had an employee that buttons it up and is always nice every single day to

00:07:55.240 you?

00:07:55.460 You might be do some cash.

00:07:58.080 Call Candace, 1-800-CANDACE.

00:08:01.160 All right.

00:08:01.520 Anyways, enough about that.

00:08:02.740 Back into the courtroom.

00:08:03.800 We left you guys off with their respective legal teams warring over the protective order.

00:08:10.300 Now, we covered this extensively, but what it is coming down to is whether or not the judge

00:08:16.000 is willing to limit the case to a standard protective order for all the text messages and emails

00:08:22.420 that are received during the course of subpoenas, which both sides have already agreed to a

00:08:26.360 standard protective order, or whether he will be issuing a rather extraordinary AEO, which stands

00:08:33.400 for Attorney's Eyes Only Protection Order, which in many ways means that Judge Lehman would

00:08:39.640 be removing himself as the judge of what the public should have access to, right?

00:08:44.420 It would allow the respective attorneys to remove that power from the judge because they could 0.91

00:08:48.240 just mark whatever they want AEO.

00:08:50.520 Like, this is what is allowed to be seen by only the attorneys, and you can't even show

00:08:55.720 Justin Baldoni.

00:08:56.860 You can't show Blake Lively, and we can just mark whatever document we want to, AEO.

00:09:02.200 And I have been, I think, rather accurately referring to this as the Taylor Swift protective

00:09:08.820 clause, right?

00:09:10.820 Well, Judge Lehman, while he hasn't made a final decision just yet in this matter, has come

00:09:15.580 out and accurately assessed exactly what this case is.

00:09:18.740 He's calling it a war between PR firms.

00:09:21.560 There's no substance here, in my view.

00:09:23.360 There's no assault here, in my view.

00:09:25.420 This is a nasty game of public relations, which began, in my view, when Ryan Reynolds and Blake

00:09:30.940 Lively worked with the New York Times to pretend that they were being victimized by the fact that

00:09:36.400 Justin Baldoni did not want to hand over his movie, okay?

00:09:38.920 So this morning, the legal teams met virtually in a hearing, and that hearing was open to the public.

00:09:44.860 It was not allowed to be recorded by the public, so we don't have an audio for you to listen to.

00:09:49.460 We can just recap what went down.

00:09:51.840 Blake's team argued, quote,

00:09:54.160 Oh, that's not hyperbole at all.

00:09:59.000 There are 100 million reasons for these parties to leak information because the PR value is

00:10:05.860 greater than complying with the court orders, end quote.

00:10:09.760 Okay?

00:10:10.020 So they are basically saying, if they're able to access all of this, they might leak it to

00:10:14.640 the public, and you can't trust them to just abide by the standard protective order.

00:10:18.460 Her team also argued that there is, quote,

00:10:22.080 a significant chance of irreparable harm if marginal conversations with high-profile individuals

00:10:29.600 with no relevance to the case were to fall into the wrong hands, okay?

00:10:35.120 We're talking, obviously, clearly talking about Taylor Swift.

00:10:38.700 We're talking about celebrities, right?

00:10:40.540 And that is stunning to me.

00:10:42.920 That is just absolutely stunning to me that they are making an argument while also trying to pretend

00:10:47.060 they have no power.

00:10:48.400 They are arguing for power, right?

00:10:50.480 Like, we just should be exceptional here because we are dealing with not regular people,

00:10:55.280 but really rich and famous people, Your Honor.

00:10:58.060 And so Brian Friedman is coming back, and he sounds like the layman in this case.

00:11:02.880 He says, quote,

00:11:03.640 What the other side is asking for is because there is celebrity, because there is powerful people in

00:11:09.460 the industry, somehow there is a different law that applies to them.

00:11:13.620 And I agree with that assessment.

00:11:14.980 Like, I have so agreed with every argument that Brian Friedman has brought forth.

00:11:18.720 What do you mean?

00:11:19.980 Would you do this if this was just some regular layman lawsuit, Your Honor?

00:11:24.260 Because they're basically saying, well, if the public actually learns who we are,

00:11:29.400 it could hurt our careers.

00:11:31.540 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:11:33.440 I'm sorry about that.

00:11:34.240 And remind you, this is not some, like, they're subpoenaing messages for three years.

00:11:38.740 It's everything that's relevant to this case that can fall within the scope of this case.

00:11:43.040 And Judge Lehman has looked at both of these sides.

00:11:46.180 And by the way, in the background, you still have Leslie Sloan PR begging to be,

00:11:49.640 that's Blake Lively's PR firm, begging to be let go of the case.

00:11:52.400 I think actually they may have the worst messages of all, because they're just like,

00:11:56.160 please, Your Honor, we are women. 0.99

00:11:58.140 We are women. 0.94

00:11:58.720 Why are we here, Your Honor?

00:12:00.400 I'm a girl.

00:12:01.640 Please, we're ladies.

00:12:02.900 This is not what ladies do. 1.00

00:12:04.700 We don't do.

00:12:05.400 Laws, I don't even know what they're doing. 1.00

00:12:06.880 They're just so deranged.

00:12:08.160 They're like, like I said, I have to assume everyone in this law firm is just extremely old 0.95

00:12:11.800 and they're running this weird feminist playbook. 1.00

00:12:14.300 They're just like, we don't care about, we generally don't care about your sex. 0.88

00:12:17.380 We want to get to the truth of this lawsuit.

00:12:19.540 And so Judge Lehman came back with all of these arguments going back and forth.

00:12:23.680 And he said this.

00:12:24.320 He said, quote,

00:12:24.860 He said he said all this near the end of the hearing.

00:12:35.380 And then he said, quote,

00:12:36.200 And that's interesting is what he's basically saying is this is already a very public lawsuit

00:12:45.680 and you can pay attention to what's happening.

00:12:48.120 Obviously, he's seeing podcasters, TikTokers, the press that's following this, and he's recognizing

00:12:53.380 how I behave has larger ratifications.

00:12:56.900 People will think the court is corrupt if I, you know, honor certain things that I wouldn't

00:13:00.420 normally honor.

00:13:01.320 And him just acknowledging that, I think, is quite honorable, like saying we just can't

00:13:06.480 be corrupt.

00:13:07.360 We're a court and we have to do things and make sure that the court is actually respected.

00:13:11.640 And in recent years, I would say the courts have lost a lot of respect for reasons that

00:13:15.020 they've handled cases, which people have deemed to be exceptional.

00:13:17.740 And so I think him expressing that is important.

00:13:21.180 Anyways, the press in this matter, and I do want to say this, I am dying to know what is

00:13:27.000 in these messages with Taylor Swift.

00:13:29.840 Like, it's just crazy to me the length that they are going through to protect these messages.

00:13:35.160 Like, it is indicating that there is something way darker in my view.

00:13:39.180 And again, I did this whole thread over the weekend where I was basically just opening up

00:13:44.660 to you guys or just like, I'm not even opening up, but like revealing to you guys.

00:13:47.580 A lot of the stuff in Hollywood, it's just not what it seems.

00:13:50.740 And I know this, unfortunately, fortunately, you know, I've been friends with a lot of people,

00:13:54.760 a lot of power players in Hollywood.

00:13:55.980 Like, for example, it is 1000% true that there are fake relationships and there are trade-offs.

00:14:01.260 I spoke about this on my Instagram, which is to say there are people who date other people

00:14:06.740 because they want to hide the fact that they're gay, that 1000% happens, these beard relationships 0.80

00:14:11.600 that are set up by agencies.

00:14:13.380 And it's not because they don't think Hollywood is LGBTQ friendly.

00:14:16.960 If you're a part of my book club, we're going to get to the next book that we read is Hollywood

00:14:20.500 Babylon, which is about the founding of Hollywood.

00:14:22.720 And it was always extraordinarily gay, lesbian, lavender couples, gay men marrying lesbian women 0.74

00:14:30.280 so that they could hide that they were gay or that they were lesbians as they began 0.71

00:14:34.080 to impact culture. It's a fascinating book that's written by Kenneth Anger.

00:14:37.020 We'll get there. But the reasons why they hide those relationships today is not because

00:14:42.240 they're fearful of coming out of the closet. This is not the 1970s, but it's because

00:14:46.260 they're fearful of how it will impact their career, which is to say that if you're a

00:14:50.140 playing a manly man, right, in some capacity, they need to convince you that that portrayal

00:14:56.300 is real, right? And if you knew that actually, wait a second, this guy's actually

00:15:01.100 quite camp and he's married to another man, that role wouldn't sell for you.

00:15:06.400 Like when you're in a theater, you want to be convinced by the character. Like, for example,

00:15:10.620 I don't know, Bradley Cooper was like the most convincing alcoholic ever when I saw him

00:15:14.760 in that movie with Lady Gaga, which is A Star is Born. And if you know too much about somebody's

00:15:20.620 personal life or if it changes things, if I knew like Bradley Cooper was actually,

00:15:24.880 you know, married to a man and actually quite camp, maybe I would be like,

00:15:29.580 I don't really know if I buy this role of him and Lady Gaga together. So that's kind of the reason

00:15:33.600 why they put together these lavender relationships or there's a trade up. So you have someone like

00:15:39.360 Ami, I mean, Ari, pardon me, Ari Emanuel at WME. He's got a client that's new on his roster

00:15:46.400 that needs a public relationship to kind of lift him up and which will allow him to get many more

00:15:51.760 sponsorships. That's just like an asset that he's trying to build so that he can sell it at a higher

00:15:56.500 price, which is just business. And then he's got someone who's got superstar power, like Taylor

00:16:00.440 Swift, who is maybe willing to do that relationship because it, I don't know, there's like another

00:16:07.060 album coming out and people want to listen to it more. So it's those sorts of trades that are made.

00:16:11.540 And I was bringing that up on my Instagram over the weekend because like a lot of you guys were

00:16:16.660 emailing me about Jake Gyllenhaal and it's a well-known thing. Like how did, you know, what was the

00:16:20.880 falling out between Ryan and Jake? And it's a well-known thing in Hollywood that it was like a

00:16:24.380 relationship ended between the two of them. There was no, nothing else beyond that. There's a lot

00:16:29.400 of bi people in Hollywood. Doesn't like, I can't, I don't know what his true sexuality is, but it's 0.90

00:16:35.120 interesting because I'm wondering if in this severity of this rush to protect Taylor Swift's

00:16:40.160 messages and Blake Lively's messages, there could be something about relationship dynamics that they're

00:16:46.920 fearful of the public finding out, which would actually deliver a very significant blow. Don't forget,

00:16:52.760 allegedly she's supposed to be with Joe Alwyn. That relationship ends. She comes, she's with

00:16:56.780 Blake Lively. Maybe we're going to find something out about the nature of Blake Lively and Ryan

00:17:00.900 Reynolds' relationship or Blake Lively and Taylor Swift's relationship. You know, what is the real

00:17:05.960 nature of Taylor Swift? Nobody really knows because she is a brand. You know, she used to date Jake

00:17:10.880 Gyllenhaal. And what is this? No one really knows what the nature is. What if you found out that

00:17:17.540 everything between her and Travis Kelsey was fake? How would that edit the way that you believe or the

00:17:23.960 way that you deal with Taylor Swift? Like if you found out and she's just like in a message like,

00:17:27.640 hey, WME is, I'm going to make me date this guy, Taylor Swift, you know, this guy, Travis Kelsey,

00:17:33.200 like, do you want to go to these games or whatever? Actually, he's dating another guy. But by the way,

00:17:38.100 I'm just saying this is like a scenario that could run. How would the public react to that?

00:17:42.100 That is what I think is actually at risk here. There's something big, very, very big in this

00:17:47.660 message, which is why they're asking for this extraordinary protection. Anyways, the press

00:17:51.660 has been essentially behind us on all of these developments. They're acting like the girl from 0.85

00:17:57.460 Mean Girls. You remember Karen Smith? Here she is. Hi, this is Karen Smith. It's 68 degrees and

00:18:04.600 there's a 30 percent chance that it's already raining. Yeah, that's what it feels like if you listen to

00:18:10.880 my podcast and then you read the press because we've been covering this stuff. We've given you

00:18:14.600 guys all of the players. We've been telling you guys exactly what it is that's going on. And then

00:18:19.000 the press is like, oh, my gosh, exclusive. One week later, Taylor Swift is being subpoenaed. That's

00:18:24.320 what Daily Mail is reporting. Look at this. They're actually putting exclusive sensational new twist

00:18:29.060 as Taylor Swift will be subpoenaed in Blake Lively, Justin Baldy legal battle and faces being

00:18:33.640 questioned under oath and insider reveals. Yeah, that's my that's a podcast 10 days ago. Am I the

00:18:38.880 insider? I don't know. And yes, they are acknowledging that she is going to be questioned

00:18:43.460 under oath as a part of the saga and that a source close to the situation confirms a group of potential

00:18:51.180 witnesses, which include depositions that are coming to give evidence and the potential witnesses are

00:18:57.180 understood to be Taylor Swift. And the It Ends With Us co-stars Jenny Slate and Isabella

00:19:03.260 Fairer. So and the staff at the talent agency WME, which represents Lively and executives at Sony

00:19:11.520 exclusive, exclusive. Again, if you watch this podcast, you will have those exclusive reportings

00:19:17.940 a lot earlier. Anyways, to wrap this up, I want to tell you what my prediction is. My prediction is

00:19:21.860 that if Judge Lehman comes back and says no to the request of four attorneys eyes only, then this is

00:19:29.160 going to move the case to settlement. Currently, there have been no settlement talks because both

00:19:33.200 sides are saying that it's premature and technically is premature because if you have a judge that's

00:19:37.920 willing to let you just write AEO on everything, why not go to trial? There's no risk. And at least

00:19:43.560 you might be able to save face and say, oh, I always thought I was going to win. I'm shocked by this

00:19:47.520 decision. Who knows what their game plan is? It's going to hurt them either way. But I think if a judge

00:19:52.380 come back and says no to AEO, then they are going to settle. And that is going to be the end of the

00:19:58.200 lawsuit that it will end with a settlement and statements from both parties. But we shall see,

00:20:04.880 Monami. All right. Don't go away because we have Theo Vaughn coming up. I had a hard hitting heavy

00:20:09.360 interview with Theo Vaughn and I know many of you have watched it. I'm going to show you some of my

00:20:13.180 favorite parts. First, I want to remind you guys about Preborn. You guys know how much I love this

00:20:17.040 organization because I know that Planned Parenthood is spending millions to target vulnerable women,

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00:22:47.080 journalist this morning. You know, I do a bunch of, I guess you could say, press and people that are interested in

00:22:51.460 various topics. And I think it went actually well. It was a Wall Street Journal journalist, and it felt like a very

00:22:57.340 normal interview. I'm scared to say that. Anyways, she was just interested in kind of the shift into the

00:23:02.360 podcast world and was just sort of asking my opinion about what's contributing to the rise of

00:23:06.720 podcasting. And we spoke a lot about how now we're seeing people that are coming more towards the

00:23:12.440 center. I think that that's been the major change. And I also think, obviously, this fracturing of trust

00:23:17.020 in the mainstream media has been helpful and people are able to get direct to the source rather than hear

00:23:21.460 somebody tell them about what that person is saying. And there's no greater example of this than me joining Theo Vaughn

00:23:27.340 He is absolutely hilarious. I have, I think I've only shown you one of his clips in the past, but I sat

00:23:31.980 down for a long form interview with him. And I just have to show you this montage of my favorite

00:23:37.600 moments with him. As we discussed my husband being British, we discussed the Mandela effect. If you

00:23:42.640 guys are not familiar with that, that's essentially, we all have the same memory of something, but they're

00:23:46.600 telling us it wasn't a thing like fruit of the loom. Apparently there was no cornucopia. And I'm telling

00:23:52.280 you there was, there was one 100%. And now there wasn't on fruit of the loom, but there was

00:23:57.260 one. Anyways, Theo Vaughn and I discussing all of these topics. Take a listen.

00:24:01.800 It would be great if your AC or whatever had like a Caribbean setting or whatever. And you

00:24:08.200 could have set that and suddenly like some great music came out. And then some guys trying to get

00:24:15.260 you to gamble offshore. Suddenly like what temperature is this? I think all British people are always just 1.00

00:24:19.960 writing war letters and stuff. That's how I kind of always envision them. They're always just looking

00:24:24.360 out the window and writing about the war to each other. That's what my husband does all day.

00:24:27.620 Of course. Yeah. And then even Paddington Bear, their bear has a coat. He's not even like our

00:24:32.800 bears are naked. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying that that's the way to do it. But

00:24:36.600 yeah, if you bring up an American teddy bear real quick, let me see this topless bastard. 1.00

00:24:43.440 Paddington Bear is proper. Yeah. Now some of these are obviously some pretty right wing bears. 0.99

00:24:48.220 Put up a, uh, bring up a politically neutral teddy bear. A fascinator's a hat? It's called the

00:24:53.000 fast. Like the ones you wear to the wedding. Those are called fascinators, not hats. And there is a

00:24:56.720 difference. Bring it up. Yeah. Fascinator. Yeah. And he's not, I want to see, I want to see him spell

00:25:00.980 it too. Cause that's even, he sounds like a gay superhero kind of. That's how I feel. 0.85

00:25:07.600 Oh, and it's just a dude that shows up and it's like, he doesn't have any specific powers like any

00:25:12.600 of the other superheroes. He's just like more like exciting. He's like, Oh, there's fascinating Randy or

00:25:17.900 whatever. Pikachu. Okay. Did, was there, describe his tail? Pikachu short. Uh, let me think of him.

00:25:28.620 Yeah. Oh God. He's nasty. Uh, he had short little tail. That lady scoffed at me when I fell out of 0.98

00:25:34.560 that chair at the inauguration. He's like, Oh, Oh, like I had, like I was a fart that had come out

00:25:41.720 of her. Oh, this gross, this thing from steerage that climbed up here somehow this thing. I would 0.95

00:25:51.760 never get in a lifeboat on the Titanic. He's just hilarious. He really is hilarious. I was laughing

00:25:59.360 the majority of the interview, by the way. I love that the live chat people are just fighting over

00:26:04.860 fruit of volume. That is correct. Everyone who's saying there definitely was one. Yes, we are so

00:26:09.320 correct. We will go to war over this issue. My theory is we're just living in a matrix and they're

00:26:14.680 just deleting files. I described it as like, there's probably some intern who accidentally hit

00:26:18.660 the wrong button and we're just all computer program. And then they just deleted accidentally

00:26:23.080 the cornucopia. Like, Oh no, now the millennials are going to have a different memory of this than

00:26:27.620 Gen Z. And Gen Z is like, there was never. And we're like, no, there definitely was on fruit of the 0.90

00:26:32.440 loom a little, come on, but let's be real. And also what is Theovan's beef with Pikachu? Why?

00:26:39.320 Why did he call Pikachu nasty? No one ever in the history of the world has ever called Pikachu

00:26:44.240 nasty. And I think that we need kind of a further exploration of what happened between him and

00:26:49.580 Pikachu. If it was an incident when he was collecting cards, whatever, fantastic conversation. It's

00:26:54.180 really fun. But we also talked about some areas where we agree on, and obviously we have different

00:26:59.840 politics. And one of the great things about being able to host your own podcast is people get to come

00:27:04.580 directly to you. And so these sort of caricatures that they build of us on the left or on the right,

00:27:09.920 they just kind of fail the test when people can get direct to the information. And one of the things

00:27:13.900 they always made it seem was that I agree with Trump on everything. And I don't agree with Trump

00:27:17.540 on everything. And if you actually listen to my podcast, I disagree with Republicans on things all

00:27:21.400 the time. I just am a conservative. And most of my values align with the Republican ticket,

00:27:26.500 obviously. And as a Christian, most of my values align with the Republican ticket.

00:27:29.500 And so we were able to agree on something that we both disagreed with that Trump did regarding Gaza

00:27:38.120 or has said recently regarding Gaza. So here is that portion of the conversation.

00:27:43.220 To me, to speak about Gaza and talking about casinos and hotels and these people just lost their entire

00:27:50.080 families, it's so far removed from humanity. And I think it's wrong. And I'm tired of America being

00:27:57.840 used as Israel's piggyback. You know, for whatever reason, everyone can critique every other country

00:28:01.240 for taking money from us. And then there's just everyone's blind when it comes to Israel. And

00:28:05.980 obviously, I paid a very heavy price for saying that last year. But I don't care because I've I am

00:28:10.020 truly someone whose values have never been up for sale. Like, I don't care. I will burn everything

00:28:13.740 to the ground and rebuild it. I have to be able to like sleep at night. And to see those Palestinian 1.00

00:28:19.860 children and the images are seared into my brain, the screaming, the crying, the bleeding,

00:28:25.500 the stuff that we saw on X for the first time, largely thanks to Elon freeing the bird and really

00:28:30.380 realizing how much we had been lied to about what was happening in that region. I just it was very

00:28:36.420 easy for me to say, take whatever you have to take from me. I just I have to be on like the human side

00:28:40.480 of things. I think it's become both sides of the aisle now just see that, you know, human people just

00:28:48.000 feel like this is that it's just wrong. Of course, what's happened is wrong. Like, probably a year ago,

00:28:52.820 people were afraid to even say that. And now it is what everybody is saying, like even Piers Morgan

00:28:57.880 is saying it on his show now, like people are saying, it's obvious that you can't go and annihilate

00:29:03.880 and genocide this culture and just make them disappear. And then Trump to come on top of it

00:29:09.160 and say they're going to build who's going to you're going to go on a lazy river where there's

00:29:14.580 bodies of like, who could even go to that?

00:29:17.600 And that's kind of these moments where we get to come together and remember that we're all human

00:29:23.400 beings. And we were even if the mainstream media is attacking us all and calling us names, we can

00:29:27.480 still have this conversation about what we know to be wrong. And like essentially what we're saying

00:29:31.520 is that our morality is not going to be trumped by propaganda. And so it was a great conversation.

00:29:37.620 I hope you guys enjoy that. And you can go obviously find that on his YouTube channel or on

00:29:41.680 his Spotify three hours. And he is hilarious and great. On that same note, though, of this sort of

00:29:47.980 these propagandists are trying to convince us that our humanity is wrong or by speaking and

00:29:52.140 understanding things outside of the context of what's in our textbooks or what's happening on

00:29:56.520 social media. I mean, what's happening on the mainstream media is wrong. I'm going to show you

00:30:00.380 this tweet. And without giving you the context, if I didn't tell you what it was about, what would

00:30:05.640 you think it was about? This is Joel Berry. He is the managing editor of the Babylon Bee.

00:30:12.000 I very early on this year told you the Babylon Bee. It's just completely fraudulent. I mean,

00:30:15.820 these people behind the scenes are awful. And Joel Berry, though, has been having a meltdown

00:30:20.060 for a very long. He's just calling everybody names. But this tweet literally made me giggle.

00:30:23.620 I now think the Babylon Bee is funny. So here it is. There's an evil movement on the march.

00:30:29.980 Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. Pray for God to thwart the plans of the wicked and

00:30:36.080 protect people from this deception.

00:30:42.580 You're like, what is he talking about? It must be really bad. Like there must have been

00:30:45.800 tons of people who died. Here's the full tweet, you guys. I will show you. He was talking about

00:30:51.980 Ian Carroll going on Joe Rogan. He's talking about speech. Ian Carroll, if you guys don't know him,

00:30:58.220 he's been on TikTok for like two years. He used to just go through the grocery hours,

00:31:02.020 how he started and speak about the companies that own all of the food and what's in the

00:31:06.220 ingredients. And he built up a solid following for these like sort of fun investigative TikTok

00:31:11.600 pieces. And he kind of hit my radar last year. And then he kind of hit it big when he had this

00:31:16.000 back forth with Elon Musk. I would say that's when he kind of jumped over into a million followers

00:31:21.220 a few months ago. And then Joe Rogan invited him to come onto his platform. And it was such a fun

00:31:26.480 discussion. They were speaking about things that are real. OK, MKUltra, if you're reading the chaos

00:31:30.760 book and you guys are part of the book club, you know, that's a real declassified government

00:31:34.780 program. The majority of the files have been destroyed. And just just the files that we can

00:31:38.780 see are terrifying about the experiments and the brainwashing that was done on people.

00:31:43.120 They also spoke about Epstein, why the files are not being released, what we can deduce from what

00:31:47.500 we do already know about Epstein via his network of contacts, contacts. And he is trying to say

00:31:53.100 that this is Satan on the march, like information being given to the people is Satan on the march.

00:31:58.960 And so here I will just show you a clip. It's a very long episode. It's three hours. You should

00:32:03.520 go watch it in its entirety. And let me know if you feel that Satan was marching or if you were just

00:32:07.780 listening to a very interesting conversation of independent media people discussing government

00:32:12.840 files. Take a listen. I think that when you study the MKUltra files, and this is where there's a lot of

00:32:18.680 conspiracy theories that are hard to prove. There's a bunch of witness victim testimony, but it's hard to

00:32:22.420 prove, is the Monarch programs are an alleged program that never got disclosed. And that's

00:32:27.040 all the programs that are hidden behind child sexual abuse being a part of mind control. Because

00:32:32.000 a lot of the drugs, like they can break people's minds and they can be involved in mind control.

00:32:36.740 But a lot of those papers talk about dissociative identity disorder as like the holy grail of that

00:32:41.980 Manchurian candidate concept. And it makes a lot of sense if you know what just how dissociative 0.55

00:32:46.300 identity disorder works. Right. And that is most commonly associated with dark,

00:32:50.280 grim childhood sexual abuse. And then you get all these victim testimonies, hundreds and hundreds

00:32:55.580 of people these days talking about how they were a part of these programs. Like people that were on

00:33:00.440 Epstein's Island that claimed to have been victimized as children and subjected to mind control

00:33:06.140 experiments paired with childhood sexual abuse.

00:33:08.740 It's, it's just so hard to believe that people are that evil, but they have been throughout history. This

00:33:14.240 is why it's weird. It's like, we'll look back on the Victorian era or we'll look back on the,

00:33:19.480 the, you know, the, the man boy love of the, you know, Socrates era. We'll go, that's just back then.

00:33:26.260 We've evolved now. We don't do that anymore. Yeah. Yeah.

00:33:28.940 But when the, when they've identified specific aspects of traumatic past that they can use these

00:33:36.800 particular victims of trauma of childhood trauma and take them and turn them into weapons. Yep.

00:33:44.060 That's so wild. But that's, that is an asset, right? If you got someone who's so crazy, you could talk to

00:33:51.220 them and get them to do things and give them acid and get them to Sirhan Sirhan levels or whatever the 0.72

00:33:57.920 they did to Jack Ruby. So this is like, this is Satan on the March, us learning about the things

00:34:04.260 that our governments have been up to. And I think this is the perfect opportunity to tell you guys,

00:34:08.420 listening to that, obviously, for those of you that got very invested in the Becoming Brigitte series,

00:34:13.060 everything he is describing in terms of childhood abuse and the idea that you could turn somebody

00:34:19.920 into a weapon. These are all the concepts that came up in our Becoming Brigitte series. As we went

00:34:24.080 through just the media completely lying to you about everything as it pertains to Brigitte Macron

00:34:28.780 and Emmanuel Macron. And on the back of this, this is insane. I learned that Emmanuel Macron has hired a

00:34:35.240 crisis PR firm in the United States. And this crisis PR firm has connections at TikTok. In one day,

00:34:44.020 all four of the Becoming Brigitte clips that we cut on TikTok were hit with strikes. And my account is now

00:34:50.380 facing a ban. OK, this all happened last week. It's been insane. And we are dealing with this.

00:34:56.080 And I think the best answer to this would be for people to go watch the series, to watch every

00:35:00.000 series that we do. But it is difficult for me to put into words how utterly deranged and psychopathic 0.64

00:35:07.860 it is that this man is trying to move through the United States court systems to shut down speech

00:35:14.760 and has now hired a crisis PR firm to try to deal with TikTokers to be banned for discussing the

00:35:22.420 truth about the person that he married. OK, he was never going to bring this court case into the

00:35:28.760 public, into Tennessee. I have dared him many times to do this because I told no lies. OK, I told no

00:35:33.360 lies throughout that series. So his best solution is to hit content makers on TikTok and to try to get

00:35:39.300 us banned for speech. This is, I hope, for everybody on both sides of the political aisle

00:35:44.800 and understanding for you of why speech is so important, because they can get you fired up

00:35:49.380 and they can get you to hate one person, whether that's Trump, whether that's Biden, whether that's

00:35:52.300 Kamala. But at the very moment that anybody who's purporting to be on the left or the right,

00:35:57.680 Joel Berry, the Babylon Bee, we're conservatives. No, you're not. OK, you guys are calling for speech

00:36:02.560 laws right now. You're pretending that Satan is involved. If people freely speak about the

00:36:07.220 corruption of our governments, if people like me and Theo Vaughn sit down and speak about

00:36:12.100 the corruption that we see overseas, you're panicking, you're freaking out. These people

00:36:17.420 are the greatest threat to our freedoms because it means that they believe that we should only trust

00:36:24.980 the experts. And what happens when we learn that the experts are corrupt? What happens when we learn

00:36:30.600 that the experts are perverts? What happens when we learn that the experts are actually corrupted

00:36:36.420 and taking money and doing deals to enslave the rest of us, just like the rest of humanity,

00:36:42.380 globalist deals? For those of you who watch the Becoming Brigitte series, it's terrifying

00:36:46.300 how how power can exist at the very top and they can go after journalists. We can't have that happen

00:36:52.140 in America. So a threat to the speech of Ian Carroll, Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn, Candace, give me a person

00:36:59.560 on the left who's being taken down for saying something even if I don't like them. It truly is,

00:37:04.740 in my view, a threat to our democracy. And that is why they are scrambling so much with podcasting.

00:37:11.100 They don't understand this independent media venture. They hate it. They are trying to smear

00:37:14.640 it. They're trying to say it's wrong. They're trying to call everybody conspiracy theorists,

00:37:17.980 Satan, whatever it is. And I want to draw your attention to that because what Emmanuel Macron is

00:37:22.560 doing is it's just there's no other way to describe it other than psychopathic. And there's more

00:37:28.140 that I haven't even told you guys. And I'm telling you, it's getting me to the point that I want to do a

00:37:32.080 second series on Emmanuel Macron because I will not tolerate this. I think it's completely

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00:38:38.080 AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens. Okay, let's see what you guys are thinking in the chat today

00:38:44.160 about all of this. Oh, I also did Stephen A. Smith. That was another one that was great because he was

00:38:49.280 on the left and he kind of had to do this monologue. I think he was kind of fearful that he would get a lot

00:38:53.420 of backlash for having me on. And it was actually, I checked the comments, it was the opposite. People

00:38:58.540 were kind of refreshed by it. So things are cracking in the right direction. But if you want

00:39:03.480 to check out the Stephen A. Smith podcast, you can also find that available on YouTube and I think

00:39:08.640 on Spotify or wherever it is that you listen. Comments number one from John. John writes,

00:39:13.140 Candace, for the first Black female president, a shout to our girl Kamala. She paved the way for us 1.00

00:39:19.260 colored folks. Thank you very much, John. Emily writes, happy to see it. It seems like you and

00:39:24.840 J.D. It seems like you like J.D. Vance now. Am I right? Love you, Candace. I haven't met him. So

00:39:29.380 I'm a person, I'm telling you, I go on vibes and I meet someone, I get an instant gut mommy feeling,

00:39:34.920 you know, like it's like a superpower that women have. I haven't met him yet. There are things that

00:39:39.000 he has done that I think have been great and funny. But I'm just cautious about everyone because

00:39:44.140 I'm cautious about the government. I'm cautious about what happens when people go to D.C. and get

00:39:47.980 power in general. And I haven't done a deep dive on him. I have not yet done a timeline

00:39:51.920 about J.D. Vance. That's that's what I haven't done yet. I need to do my psychotic timeline.

00:39:56.400 Mishi writes, part of me doesn't want Justin to settle. He deserves to be exonerated. Yeah,

00:40:00.900 I know. I think about that often. Like, should he settle if there is an opportunity? Well,

00:40:05.120 he can be exonerated via a settlement, right? So you're just saving the court time, saving your court

00:40:09.440 costs. And you could say the only way that we're going to settle this lawsuit, which we think we're

00:40:13.020 going to win, is you make a full mea culpa. You make a video and you say that you lie and you can't

00:40:20.480 stop lying. And this has nothing to do with me being toxically positive. It has to do with you

00:40:25.300 guys flying too close to the sun and thinking that you were untouchable. And what you did was

00:40:29.620 demented and what you did was wrong. And if you say that to the public, then I'll walk away.

00:40:33.100 At that moment, it will be their ego on the line. And they could potentially have to do both by the end

00:40:37.100 of it. I mean, you lose a lawsuit. People that know that you lied. And on top of that,

00:40:41.000 you got to pay $400 million. I mean, it gets interesting, but I do agree that he should

00:40:46.320 not settle until he gets that full mea culpa. It's Archie writes, please don't stop doing

00:40:51.640 interviews with these independent podcasts. It's super dope seeing you in your element in

00:40:54.820 someone else's space and showing people who you are rather than who the media says you are.

00:40:59.100 I have some more that are upcoming. Don't worry, you guys. I tend not to travel a lot now because

00:41:03.560 I just have so many kids and it's just not worth being on the road. So Theo, I found out,

00:41:08.020 it was like my next door neighbor. Terrible neighbor. He never offered me a cup of anything,

00:41:12.200 sugar, nothing. I had no idea. I was like, wow, you live right here? This is crazy. I could play

00:41:16.080 pranks on Theo if I want, just so you guys know. Maybe I will. Maybe I will do that.

00:41:20.400 April is just around the corner a couple of weeks away and maybe I'll just play a

00:41:23.300 crazy trick and put Pikachu on his front yard. Nasty Pikachu just on his front yard. I think I might do

00:41:30.300 that. Theorist writes, I am crying about your daughter's cute little lies. Love you,

00:41:35.200 Candace. I'm like, what is this phase? You can't tell two-year-old that your dad's in prison.

00:41:40.420 There are rules. You can't reprimand these kids because it's so funny. When she just tells a

00:41:46.420 little lie, she's a pretty little liar and she just says stuff. And I'm like, that's just not 0.89

00:41:51.700 true. It's not true at all. And she tells me that she forgot her makeup. I'm like, you don't have

00:41:56.060 makeup. We're not turning the car around. You don't have makeup. We're just going to the farmer's

00:42:00.520 market, girl. Anyways, allegedly writes, Stephen Smith's closing monologue yesterday was fire.

00:42:06.120 Don't even think about challenging her. You better know what the hell you are talking about when you

00:42:09.840 come at her. She isn't going anywhere. I really appreciate that, as you guys learned in our sit

00:42:14.120 down. I've actually always been a fan of Stephen A. Smith. I used to have to watch First Take every

00:42:19.900 morning back when I was just a young buck in my early 20s. And yeah, it was great. Him and Skip Bayless.

00:42:25.300 And I think we actually have a quote. My producer is writing that. We actually have a 45-second clip

00:42:31.720 from his monologue, so we can watch that now.

00:42:34.220 She's sharp as a tack. And you damn well better be if you're going to come for her. 0.98

00:42:41.780 Because ladies and gentlemen, like it or not, Candace Owens, she's not going anywhere.

00:42:48.580 Even when you thought she was gone, she's around. Number eight on Spotify's list of podcasts and

00:42:59.280 climbing. And she's in her 30s. She's not going away. No matter what summer you want, she's

00:43:06.820 not going away. Deal with that. If not, I get the impression she will make you.

00:43:18.580 Do you know what that was? That felt like toxic positivity. Let me go back to my definition,

00:43:25.540 because that sounded like he was toxically positive about me. Oh, okay. A practice of

00:43:30.880 forcing and optimism. Even when you're expecting negative emotions. Yes, that was that. I will be

00:43:36.800 filing a lawsuit against Stephen A. Smith for toxic positivity. I'm going to have the Hollywood

00:43:41.060 reporter write that up in many ways. I really appreciate that, Stephen A. Smith. I actually did

00:43:46.200 not. I missed that ending there. So thank you very much for saying that. And it does feel like we've

00:43:50.920 won in many ways against the mainstream media narrative about me. I'm definitely not going

00:43:55.840 away. And because I love what I do. I love speaking with you guys every day. I love hearing what your

00:44:00.120 ideas are. I like seeing what you're interested in. I like learning from you. I love being wrong

00:44:03.480 also. And like editing something and coming back to you. It just feels like we are we're in a

00:44:08.940 toxically positive relationship. Me and my podcast listeners. And so on that note, you guys, we will

00:44:15.560 see you tomorrow. We'll jump right back into the Harvey series, this time taking a look at Jessica

00:44:20.400 Mann, who put him in for three years in New York. Now that you guys are, if you're not caught up on

00:44:26.220 that, go. It is amazing to understand exactly what Judge Lehman is kind of alleging here or implying

00:44:33.040 here, which is like there is faith that is being lost in the court systems and people are being treated

00:44:37.380 differently. And unfortunately, for people who are disgusted with Harvey Weinstein, he was somebody

00:44:43.020 who was definitively treated differently in court because of clearly someone that was much more

00:44:47.540 powerful than him behind the scenes. I think that may have been orchestrating everything and a terribly

00:44:52.400 corrupt judge is what I would say. Anyways, you guys, we will see you tomorrow. And in the meantime,

00:44:58.700 if you'd like to head to CandaceOwens.com and buy our book, support our independence so that we don't

00:45:04.260 have to rely on YouTube when we get demonetized. We are not demonetized right now, but we were for

00:45:08.840 a very long time. Love you, mucho. We will see you then.

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