Candace Owens - BREAKING NEWS! I’ve Been Keeping A Secret. ｜ Candace Ep 208

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00:00:30.000 All right, guys, happy Monday.

00:00:31.720 And, well, ladies and gents, I will say it is not my style, but I have been keeping a major secret from you all. 0.97

00:00:38.760 And I was admittedly bursting at the seams because it is without question the craziest thing that has ever happened to me in my entire life, certainly at least in my political life, bar none.

00:00:49.740 So in case you were having an uneventful Monday, welcome back to Candace.

00:00:54.520 I just have to say it's remarkable that so many people in the chat think that my secret is that I'm pregnant again, that that is something that I would tease as unbelievable surprise.

00:01:18.500 That actually would be the least surprising thing ever.

00:01:21.300 But that is not the case.

00:01:23.260 It's actually much crazier.

00:01:26.040 And like I said, I've been holding on to this for a very long time because something happened all the way back in February.

00:01:31.700 February, and I was sworn to secrecy temporarily, and I feel that today is the correct day to inform audiences because it may have some severe global implications.

00:01:41.760 So here is what happened, all right?

00:01:43.700 The date was Monday, February 24th, and in the early evening, I had just kind of wrapped the show.

00:01:51.300 It was just after 5.30 p.m., to be precise.

00:01:54.520 I received a very strange message from a friend of mine.

00:01:58.080 I'm not going to identify that friend, but the message specifically read,

00:02:01.360 Hey, I have something to tell you from the White House.

00:02:04.500 They asked me to call you.

00:02:05.780 I'm just the messenger here.

00:02:07.680 Again, strange.

00:02:09.400 I'm just the messenger here, like kind of removing themselves from whatever was going to be said.

00:02:13.800 So I assume it's got to be something weird.

00:02:16.300 And I say, yeah, whatever.

00:02:17.280 Give me a call.

00:02:18.420 And so he does call me pretty immediately, by the way.

00:02:20.440 And he says, somebody very high up at the White House has asked me to ask you if, as a favor, you could stop speaking about Brigitte Macron.

00:02:36.080 Like, what?

00:02:42.060 Excuse me?

00:02:43.360 I'm not kidding when I say that.

00:02:44.740 In the myriad of possibilities that were floating through my brain about what this phone call was going to be about, that was not one of them.

00:02:52.460 So I'm just kind of having to redirect and I'm going, what were you talking about?

00:02:57.780 So to be clear, we had, ironically, as a podcast, we had just ended our Brigitte Macron series four days earlier on February 20th.

00:03:06.140 That's when we released the last episode, which was the epilogue.

00:03:08.520 So I'm going, that doesn't make sense.

00:03:10.040 Why am I getting this phone call now?

00:03:12.000 And obviously, I ask for a little more information.

00:03:14.700 I say, who?

00:03:15.160 Who specifically called you?

00:03:16.400 And that friend of mine says, it's somebody that has the president's ear.

00:03:21.500 This is somebody important.

00:03:22.600 So I'm thinking, OK, this is advisor, Susie Wiles.

00:03:27.500 I don't know.

00:03:29.280 And I tell my friend, go back to that person and just say, I said, no, it's free speech.

00:03:35.020 This is obviously an important story to me.

00:03:37.440 The implications here are pretty severe about what I've uncovered.

00:03:41.800 So no deal.

00:03:44.100 Hang up.

00:03:45.040 I go into my husband's office and I tell him what just happened.

00:03:48.860 And honestly, I'm kind of laughing at the absurdity of it because I hadn't thought beyond what may have happened.

00:03:55.120 And then I do what I always do just in case.

00:03:56.960 I call Noah.

00:03:57.580 I call the lawyer and I'm like, hey, I know Macron's, you know, sending us legal letters.

00:04:01.580 I just want you to add this onto the pile that somebody at the White House is asking me to just stop speaking about Brigitte Macron.

00:04:08.800 Cool.

00:04:09.540 We kind of have a laugh about it.

00:04:10.780 Let's run it different ways.

00:04:12.700 Are we going to expect something else to be delivered to my door?

00:04:15.540 Another threat, implicit threat from the Macron's, somebody calling in a favor.

00:04:19.920 Who knows?

00:04:20.420 Whatever.

00:04:21.480 Anyways, we do dinner and I am kind of feeling bad about my pregnant attitude on the phone call, you know, because I was, what, eight weeks away from birth.

00:04:30.460 And I was a bit shorter on the phone than I would have been if there wasn't like a growing infant foot that's lodged under my lung.

00:04:37.740 And this person has been very good to me in the past.

00:04:41.340 And so I resolved that before I go to bed, I'll phone him back and have a much more calm conversation.

00:04:48.720 Not that I was rude, but just like, hey, what's this actually about?

00:04:51.520 And so I did.

00:04:52.720 I did.

00:04:53.320 And not only that, before I called this individual back, when I checked online, I realized that Emmanuel Macron is in Washington, D.C., February 24th.

00:05:04.040 He is in Washington, D.C., and he had departed the White House just hours before I received the call.

00:05:12.340 Anyways, I am in awe.

00:05:15.800 A lot of thoughts are running through my mind.

00:05:18.660 What could this possibly be about?

00:05:21.480 And when I call that person back, they tell me something that is even stranger.

00:05:25.840 They say, look, I'm, I, again, and the messenger here, what I was told from somebody that's pretty high up at the White House is that Emmanuel Macron is holding up negotiations to end the Russian and Ukrainian war.

00:05:49.520 Unless you stop speaking about his wife.

00:05:53.460 I'm just going, what?

00:05:56.500 What are you saying?

00:05:58.160 What are we even speaking about?

00:06:00.160 What do you mean negotiations between Russia and Ukraine?

00:06:04.180 I'm just like, you know, looking into a story at my house.

00:06:08.360 I've got a very small team here, and you're telling me that somehow negotiations are being held up and it needs to be communicated to me.

00:06:14.520 They've got to stop talking about Brigitte.

00:06:17.140 What are we saying?

00:06:18.140 And then I'm asking myself in my mind, because I hang up this phone, and I am in true shock.

00:06:22.720 Did Emmanuel Macron pretend to fly into D.C. under the guise of negotiations, the Russian-Ukraine war, and then instruct someone on his entourage to have an off-the-books discussion?

00:06:36.320 A little meeting on the side, maybe somebody, again, like a Susie Wiles, where he made his truer demands?

00:06:42.940 Like, hey, this is for the pictures.

00:06:44.600 Me and Trump are talking about, we're going to get it done.

00:06:46.860 And then what really goes on behind the scenes is, like, we're not doing anything until that little podcast, her Candace, agrees to shut her mouth.

00:06:57.160 What?

00:06:58.100 This is crazy.

00:06:59.140 This is absolutely instinct, okay?

00:07:02.240 So I say, we end the conversation, I say, I'm going to sleep on this.

00:07:05.040 It's a lot to process.

00:07:05.880 I remember I get into bed, and I just turn to my husband, and I say, no one will ever believe us.

00:07:12.620 It's just something that just arrived at me very suddenly.

00:07:15.400 I said, no one will ever believe that this just took place.

00:07:18.960 And my husband's like, yeah, no.

00:07:20.800 This is just very, very strange.

00:07:22.900 And I promised the individual that I would pray on it, that I would think further about the situation, what are the implications here.

00:07:32.100 And I then call him back the next day, and I say, look, this is pretty weird.

00:07:39.020 You have to admit, this is pretty weird.

00:07:40.020 And you're not really giving me any details, and I kind of want to know who specifically you spoke to, because I think it kind of matters.

00:07:45.500 Is somebody trying to do a side deal while Trump is doing a different deal?

00:07:48.880 At that moment, he's honest, and he says, no, President Trump was on the phone, too.

00:07:54.700 And I go, oh, are you kidding me?

00:07:57.020 You didn't tell me this yesterday, that there was some sort of a conference call, and President Trump is on the line?

00:08:03.780 You didn't mention, I go, did you lie to me yesterday?

00:08:05.360 Were you trying to pretend that it was like a third-party person?

00:08:07.260 And he says, no, no, no, I didn't lie to you, I didn't lie to you.

00:08:10.060 Like, I got a phone call, and I obviously, in the background, Trump communicated something to me.

00:08:15.180 So he was there when the phone call took place.

00:08:17.380 And I'm going, what the heck is going on?

00:08:20.620 Literally, what is happening right now?

00:08:23.440 So I get the phone with him, and I just say, I just need time to process what you're saying.

00:08:27.120 This is so absurd.

00:08:28.180 How could this become an issue that is involving the President of the United States?

00:08:32.000 I'm doing a series on my podcast.

00:08:34.340 And then I just kind of get into mommy mode, because it's Tuesday.

00:08:38.140 My daughter's got ballet.

00:08:38.980 I'm at ballet with my daughter.

00:08:41.000 And I get a text message from that person that says, you need to pick up the phone.

00:08:43.980 Somebody from the White House is calling you.

00:08:46.120 And I say, okay.

00:08:48.100 It happened so quickly.

00:08:49.640 I pick up the phone.

00:08:51.200 And sure enough, it is somebody at the White House that is calling me.

00:08:53.980 It's not Donald Trump, but it's somebody at the White House that is calling me.

00:08:56.000 That's pretty high up, close proximity to Trump.

00:08:58.660 I'm not going to name.

00:09:00.640 And this person just, I assume, has never even watched one minute of my content.

00:09:07.500 Because, I mean, if there were a guide to how not to approach Candace Owens when you are trying to get something done, he was just following this guide.

00:09:18.960 He could not have been more pompous and more arrogant on the phone.

00:09:24.820 And I would like to contextualize that I'm, like, pretty heavily pregnant.

00:09:28.300 So, like, you know, my bandwidth for BS or anybody trying to, like, well, you know, it was very low.

00:09:36.160 And he essentially says, look, you should do it because it's the president.

00:09:40.480 And he's asking you to do it.

00:09:41.980 What else do you want me to say?

00:09:42.980 Just do it.

00:09:43.480 Just stop talking about Brigitte Macron.

00:09:47.660 Astounding.

00:09:48.360 Reflecting on that level of arrogance because he told you to do it.

00:09:51.460 It's in order.

00:09:52.040 So, you should do it.

00:09:53.480 And all I was thinking in my mind before I flew into, you know, a little rage was that expression.

00:10:00.800 Proximity to power can lead others to deluding that they wield it.

00:10:05.240 You're close to power.

00:10:06.040 You think you're now Trump.

00:10:07.740 You're calling me.

00:10:08.620 Even if you were Trump, this wouldn't be the way to speak to me.

00:10:10.720 And you're calling me, like, that's an order from the president of the United States.

00:10:14.300 So, you just do it.

00:10:15.120 No questions asked.

00:10:16.100 Don't even think about freedom of speech.

00:10:17.280 Who cares about that pesky little First Amendment?

00:10:19.860 You got to just do it now.

00:10:21.020 And I just basically say, look, my daughter's crying because she doesn't like when I step out of ballet, even though she can see me.

00:10:26.520 She's like, please, mommy, come back in.

00:10:28.200 You're speaking to me inappropriately.

00:10:30.280 And I just say, I don't really care what you, I don't know who you think you're speaking to.

00:10:35.580 This is not how you're going to get anything done with me.

00:10:37.540 And I just hang out the phone.

00:10:38.460 I'm like, this is just not a good conversation.

00:10:39.940 I just, I don't, I don't want to be part of this anymore.

00:10:41.920 Goodbye.

00:10:42.160 I don't like that at all.

00:10:44.920 And the third party person who had initially told me about the situation is trying to calm down.

00:10:52.540 And he calls behind.

00:10:53.620 He's like, no, you know, I don't know why you're spoken to like that.

00:10:56.700 And like, you know, this is still really important.

00:10:58.700 And, you know, this really matters to the president.

00:11:01.400 And he's kind of trying to talk me off the pregnancy cliff.

00:11:04.420 And I'm still calm enough that I know that pregnant Candace is not always the most rational Candace and a little bit of a hothead. 1.00

00:11:13.240 And I resolve, as I'm speaking to this situation with my husband, that I should also reach out and maybe call someone who's potentially been in a predicament like this.

00:11:24.060 I don't know, someone who's got a larger audience than me and kind of call in a favor.

00:11:30.240 So I don't normally text him, but I did reach out to Tucker Carlson.

00:11:35.600 And I just kind of told him the situation and was like, look, this is really weird.

00:11:39.800 No, I don't normally contact you for advice, but I could really use some advice right now because you know how much free speech matters to me and basically how important this particular story is to me because it involves, you know, potentially, not just potentially, like pedophilia, incest, all of these elements.

00:11:58.880 And as a mother, the idea that people this powerful at the story could be covered is it matters to this actually the truth just matters at the end of the day.

00:12:08.780 But also, like, if I could end the Ukrainian and Russian war and just stopping this conversation, I would do it.

00:12:19.740 And he comes back with just very sage Tucker Carlson advice and he says, look, you know, you don't want to have the bloodshed of Christians on your conscience, but also free speech does matter.

00:12:31.700 And you should essentially say you'll do it until like you're saying this negotiations are happening now and you'll agree to do that.

00:12:42.900 But at some point, obviously, you need to inform people about what happened because this is this is totally crazy.

00:12:48.520 And I say, that's actually a very good idea. That's that's a I feel like that's a very principled position to take.

00:12:54.560 Anyways, I sleep on that. Anger is subsiding. Wake up the next morning. It's February 26th.

00:12:59.600 And I am sitting in the makeup chair and I get another message that's like, hey, keep your phone on.

00:13:05.960 And I'm going, I really don't want to speak to this advisor anymore.

00:13:09.460 I really don't. Our personalities are not meshing.

00:13:12.700 And anyways, this phone call is coming from Florida.

00:13:18.460 Pick up the phone and lo and behold.

00:13:23.740 You know, so here's what happened.

00:13:26.140 I, I, I'm negotiating this thing.

00:13:29.280 I'm negotiating Ukraine and Russia.

00:13:31.080 You wouldn't believe how many how many parts are part.

00:13:33.220 It is President Donald J. Trump.

00:13:36.060 He is calling me.

00:13:37.300 And in true President Trump fashion, he jumps right into the narrative that we're not.

00:13:42.080 Hey, how you do?

00:13:42.680 He just like jumps right into the narrative of exactly how this went down.

00:13:46.360 I am literally I it is hard to catch my breath to comprehend that four days ago.

00:13:52.760 I'm ending a series about Brigitte Macron.

00:13:55.540 And for and now I'm speaking to the president of the United States and the topic of conversation, 0.99

00:13:59.860 no matter which way you want to slice it, it's about Macron's wife's penis. 1.00

00:14:04.160 I mean, there's no other way to say it. Right. 1.00

00:14:05.860 And so he just jumps right into the narrative.

00:14:08.740 He's like, you know, I'm negotiating.

00:14:09.900 You wouldn't believe how many pieces this person wants, this person, if this person wants this.

00:14:14.200 And you have no idea how much is involved when you're trying to get one of these deals done.

00:14:18.980 You know, anyways, I have Macron.

00:14:21.340 I like Macron.

00:14:22.200 We're speaking at the White House and I'm walking him to his car.

00:14:26.840 And, you know, he says to me, Mr. President, can I speak to you for a second?

00:14:31.180 I say, of course you can speak to me about anything.

00:14:32.980 What's going on?

00:14:33.460 And he tells me that there's there's Secret Service all around them.

00:14:37.340 There's SUVs.

00:14:38.920 They're encircled.

00:14:39.700 He wants to have a little sidebar.

00:14:42.840 And then Macron says to him, Mr. President, do you know Candace Owens?

00:14:47.340 And I say, yes, yes, of course I know Candace Owens.

00:14:49.960 What's going on?

00:14:50.500 And then the president says, he says to me, you must be a very powerful person, Candace.

00:14:57.420 We're talking about the president of France taking me aside to talk about your podcast.

00:15:01.660 And then he continues his narrative and he tells me that Emmanuel Macron is requesting to his face that I stop speaking about his wife.

00:15:12.240 And one of the things Trump said is like, you know, he tells me, you know, she's old and this is really, really impacting her.

00:15:20.920 And I'm listening.

00:15:22.220 I'm listening.

00:15:23.100 And he's, you know, in one of his he's one of Trump monologues is very funny.

00:15:26.200 And then he says, you know, I saw her, you know, I saw her up close and she looks like a woman to me.

00:15:32.620 She looks like a woman to me.

00:15:33.600 I had dinner with her at the top of the Eiffel Tower.

00:15:36.640 And I say at this point, yeah, yeah, but I found her plastic surgeon who specializes in transgenderism.

00:15:43.460 And I just tell him, I just like we're talking like friends. 0.98

00:15:45.780 I just tell him, yeah, no, you know, she's a tranny. 1.00

00:15:47.920 And I explained to him that she has had this amazing doctor who specializes in transgenderism surgeries or feminization procedures. 0.86

00:15:58.660 I'm talking to the president of the United States about this, guys.

00:16:01.240 This is crazy.

00:16:01.940 This is wacky.

00:16:03.600 But I'm just giving it as good as I get.

00:16:05.580 I'm just telling, trying to get him to understand the truth.

00:16:07.940 And then I explained to him why I don't feel so great about this request, because that's the more important part.

00:16:14.180 Like you are requesting that I really, and despite your reason, which is very sound, that I that I stop telling the truth.

00:16:24.520 And I said to Trump, and I will be honest, that at that moment, I realized that one day this is going to go into my autobiography.

00:16:31.180 And so I got to say something funny. 0.99

00:16:32.600 And I just said, I said to him, you know, respectfully, Mr. President, it's not my fault that he married someone with a penis. 0.99

00:16:39.360 He then tells me, we're really close to getting this thing done. 0.99

00:16:44.080 We're really close to getting this thing done.

00:16:45.500 He tells me again, McCrone's been really good to me.

00:16:48.180 You know, he's been very easy to work with with us.

00:16:50.140 He's been a good person.

00:16:51.200 He just wants me to get this one thing done.

00:16:53.540 And he throws in the art of the deal type stuff.

00:16:55.780 He starts complimenting me.

00:16:57.000 He said, Melania loves you.

00:16:58.300 She says, you're so beautiful.

00:16:59.300 She thinks you're so beautiful.

00:17:00.200 I said, thank you, Mr. President.

00:17:01.120 Thank you, Mr. President.

00:17:01.780 You know, compliments will get you everywhere in life is my mentality here.

00:17:05.820 And then I say to him what I've agreed to already in the back of my head.

00:17:09.800 I say, look, I'm happy to do this for the short.

00:17:12.080 Obviously, I don't want to have on my conscience that less Christian men could have died in the East if I just shut up about something.

00:17:20.800 But I'm very clear to him that this is this is going to be short term and that I expect fully expect that in a few months I will be able to speak about this.

00:17:31.000 And this is the point of the conversation where it actually gets quite interesting because he says yes.

00:17:35.940 And then and I am now adding to you how what I sensed.

00:17:40.740 He was about to commit to that.

00:17:43.600 But then it felt to me like someone in the background was like, no, we need this conversation to stop altogether.

00:17:49.420 And he doesn't say no or yes, but he just says, you know, that he really needs to work with Macron long term and they have this long working relationship.

00:17:58.520 And I was very clear.

00:18:00.200 This is not long term for me.

00:18:01.680 Like if you're close to this deal, ink it.

00:18:03.320 Let's get it done.

00:18:04.920 And then he sort of offers at the end.

00:18:06.780 He says, hey, maybe I can come on your podcast one day.

00:18:09.820 I'm great for ratings.

00:18:11.600 They're so Trumpy and to give yourself a compliment.

00:18:13.420 So I give him the Trump right back.

00:18:14.780 And I say respectfully, Mr. President, I'm apparently good for ratings, too, because you've got you've got a leader of a country, the president of the country asking you to ask me to do a favor.

00:18:26.240 So let me end the conversation.

00:18:28.820 And I am just reeling.

00:18:31.120 I can't believe it's even happened.

00:18:33.000 I then go and I immediately tell my husband and I write down the details of the conversation so that I wouldn't forget the conversation that we were having.

00:18:39.500 And, of course, the first thing that I want to say principally is that Emmanuel Macron must step step down.

00:18:46.200 OK, because if that is true and I will say that did not come from Trump.

00:18:51.120 He did not say specifically he's holding up negotiations for this.

00:18:55.560 But he did say specifically that they were talking about the Ukraine and Russia war all day and he's just trying to make it all happen.

00:19:03.480 And that is when Macron took him to the side.

00:19:05.360 So I I kind of trust the information who came from that third party person that what he was being told was that he was holding this up.

00:19:12.640 Right. Like Macron's holding this up a contingency here on whether or not he's going to agree to this sort of international deal is whether or not Candace Owens stops speaking about his wife.

00:19:25.000 Yet you got to step down, OK, because there is no greater example of just the lack of morality that a leader can have than his husband wife putting him on a plane and sending him sending him overseas to make Candace Owens stop speaking about their relationship.

00:19:51.040 That is like we really all should just take a deep breath here, take a step back and recognize that he is willing to let bloodshed.

00:20:02.120 He's willing to let people die. OK, and a hold up here is going to be whether or not Candace Owens stop speaking about his wife's penis. 1.00

00:20:11.580 That's ridiculous. You are not qualified to hold office. 1.00

00:20:14.740 I thought that before all of this, just looking into your background, I know you're a fraud. 1.00

00:20:18.140 You know, you're a fraud. Your wife certainly knows that you are a fraud. 1.00

00:20:23.460 But this is reaching levels where you just have to be impeached. 0.99

00:20:27.520 That's absurd. That is like let's get the impeachment trials going.

00:20:31.320 And in my head, I'm thinking to Trump, actually, if you wanted to really negotiate.

00:20:35.220 You could have said to him, how about I go live and tell all those reporters what you just said if you don't sign this document?

00:20:43.140 That's how I would have played it. But, you know, I was like seven months pregnant.

00:20:46.220 I would have played hardball. I don't need I don't need to have friends when we're talking about ending bloodshed.

00:20:51.920 But the second thing that I want to say here is that it's occurred to me over time that this is about much more than the Ukrainian and Russian war.

00:21:02.920 Right. That is not why his Mr.

00:21:06.500 McCrone put him on a plane to go speak to Trump in person about this issue.

00:21:13.000 Right. They did that because they are terrified.

00:21:17.540 They are terrified because obviously everything I've uncovered is true.

00:21:22.620 Fiction would not make you do that.

00:21:25.320 OK, you'd go. This is so absurd.

00:21:27.700 It's so crazy. I mean, who's going to believe that?

00:21:31.140 Fiction does not make you fly nine hours to the United States to ask the president, if he has a moment, to step aside out of the shot of cameras and speak about your wife.

00:21:46.680 Right. That's we can now it is confirmed fact.

00:21:50.100 Put it on Wikipedia that Brigitte Macron was born Jean-Michel Truong.

00:21:54.520 No, we can just go ahead and do that. Right.

00:21:58.340 But what did I hit at that has them really terrified?

00:22:02.520 What was the success of that series?

00:22:04.900 Looking into a web and understanding how deeply sinister whatever it is that is happening in Paris is.

00:22:14.900 Looking into not just the current events, but the historical events.

00:22:18.620 I mean, we put up a map and showed just how often they were involved in these pedophilic scandals. 0.98

00:22:27.120 Silly ones. Putting the book for your Andre Geed, an admitted pederast, a guy who outwardly said, yes, I I like young boys. 0.89

00:22:36.880 And you choose that to be the book in your official portrait.

00:22:40.920 As the president of France, Emmanuel Macron did that.

00:22:45.620 I think there's more. I think there's more that they are afraid of.

00:22:49.300 I think that it was a very powerful person, potentially someone more powerful than Brigitte, who told Macron, who was just a total fraud, a puppet, to get on that plane and make this request after they realized that sending legal letters wasn't the best idea.

00:23:06.860 So what else is it that I've potentially uncovered about France?

00:23:11.600 How does this relate to the United States?

00:23:12.940 I'm going to tell you in just a second.

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00:25:31.960 All right, you guys.

00:25:34.180 Here's where I'm going to pull it all together for you because we all know here's the reality.

00:25:37.380 The greatest trick the devil ever played was making the world believe that he didn't exist, okay?

00:25:42.320 And I have this thing.

00:25:44.340 Call it my toxic trait.

00:25:46.720 When the media takes me out of context and then just tells these sort of unbelievable lies about me and my perspectives, I never get discouraged.

00:25:55.260 I just get interested.

00:25:57.020 That's my toxic trait.

00:25:57.920 You can try to offend me, but I just get interested, especially when they're just being way too over the top, you know?

00:26:05.100 Well, like Holocaust tonight, whatever it is. 0.99

00:26:07.440 If you're just being way too crazy, like self-hating black woman, I'm like, what are you hiding? 0.98

00:26:13.180 You're obviously hiding something because you're way too triggered by what is likely, and listeners to the show now know, 0.99

00:26:19.460 just a simple fact that I've delivered.

00:26:20.860 And I'll give you an example of that, and I'll tell you how it relates to France and it relates to America.

00:26:26.840 So back actually when I was at the Daily Wire, I did this episode, and I was so interested in Sigmund Freud, right? 0.52

00:26:34.700 Realizing that this dude was a total perv. 0.97

00:26:36.520 I mean, just a total perv. 0.99

00:26:38.580 And I gave examples of his, like, people that were surrounding him that were pervs, people that had been molesting their children. 0.98

00:26:47.160 A lot too many of his friends have been molesting their children.

00:26:49.420 And the reaction in the media was to call me unhinged and crazy and to defend Sigmund Freud as if he wasn't the guy who's writing all of these theories saying that, like, children are sexual and are just attracted to their parents.

00:27:04.880 I mean, like, totally weird.

00:27:05.860 Like, I'm not unhinged.

00:27:06.880 He was unhinged, obviously.

00:27:09.620 And but them calling me, that made me more interested.

00:27:11.520 I'm going, why are you, like, so committed to defending this dead guy and attacking me?

00:27:17.240 So I'm going to actually learn about Sigmund Freud, okay?

00:27:20.160 So I order a book, and this is a book that was written by, you've heard me mention this before, by David Bacan.

00:27:25.440 It's called Sigmund Freud and the Jewish Mystical Tradition.

00:27:28.080 And essentially this guy posits in this book, and then he's able to verify what initially was his theory in the updated edition.

00:27:35.240 He's able to confirm his theory was correct.

00:27:37.480 That Sigmund Freud actually created the psychoanalyst movement to mainstream his religion.

00:27:44.080 That actually he was practicing the Kabbalah.

00:27:46.740 And if you look at the psychoanalyst's early movement, as he does a very good job of assessing, you will recognize that they are mainstreaming the Kabbalah, okay?

00:27:55.920 So I'm learning about Sigmund Freud, and I happened upon this book, and I'm not just learning about Sigmund Freud.

00:28:01.160 I am learning about a piece of history that I've never heard about in my entire life.

00:28:05.480 And it concerns this guy, Jacob Frank, okay?

00:28:10.420 He's this man who caused a schism.

00:28:13.800 We always talk about, like, Christian schisms and, oh, you know.

00:28:17.580 And actually, every faith has this, obviously, Sunni, the Shiites.

00:28:22.020 But we never have really heard, or at least I hadn't heard, about this huge schism that took place amongst people that were Jewish, that there was this huge schism.

00:28:32.080 And it talks about how this guy, who thought that he was the Messiah, okay, got into some really perverted things.

00:28:39.320 And I'm just going to just read you this, and I promise you, this is so important.

00:28:43.840 I think this is really what it's all about, okay?

00:28:46.840 In this chapter, which is entitled The Frankest Episode, I'll read you a couple of things.

00:28:50.960 It tells us that this guy, Jacob Frank, was born in 1726 in Korolavka on the frontiers of Padolia and Malachia.

00:29:00.420 It tells us that his father was a Sabatian who had been expelled from the Jewish community.

00:29:07.780 So, again, getting back to this fracture that happened and, essentially, people that felt that the old Torah law had been fulfilled and that new messiahs were coming.

00:29:18.140 And one such messiah was this Jacob Frank.

00:29:21.420 It goes on to say,

00:29:22.060 The tales which have come down to us indicate that he was what we would today call a psychopathic personality, a person without any strong superego formation.

00:29:32.520 In his new Sabatian doctrine, he asserted the idea of the Holy Trinity.

00:29:37.780 He distinguished himself between God as having become incarnate, and he assigned the role of messiah to himself.

00:29:47.820 It says, quote,

00:29:48.840 The idea of a male-female God became the occasion for sexual religious practices.

00:29:57.420 The law, he declared, was dead.

00:29:59.360 The yoke of the old Torah had been broken.

00:30:01.920 I'm going to read that again.

00:30:02.500 The idea of a male-female God became the occasion for sexual religious practices.

00:30:08.820 Okay? 0.97

00:30:09.640 And so he would have these sexual parties, the only way to describe it, where they would just do incredibly disgusting things.

00:30:17.840 We'll get more into that later.

00:30:18.720 He then begins to quote this Israeli historian who did a lot of research.

00:30:25.000 I've read his books.

00:30:25.720 His name is Gershom Sholem.

00:30:27.520 And he explains that this religion believed, quote,

00:30:32.980 The mystic does not even recoil before the inference that in a higher sense there is a root of evil, even in God.

00:30:41.180 The doctrine of evil was given support by the thesis that the holy sparks had been scattered,

00:30:46.980 and it was necessary for men to hand themselves into sin in order to regather them.

00:30:53.200 The idea of the holy sin became prominent.

00:30:57.920 Through sin, salvation would come.

00:31:00.940 From the great sinning would emerge a world in which there would no longer be sin.

00:31:07.180 This is starting to sound a lot to me like Schofield Bible principles and like this whole idea of the rapture.

00:31:11.420 But anyways, he goes on.

00:31:13.220 Frank had declared, quote,

00:31:14.640 I have come to rid the world of all the laws and the statutes which have been in existence hitherto.

00:31:21.500 Another person explaining this line of thought writes,

00:31:24.460 The conception of the Messiah as he who must enter completely into the klippa, 0.94

00:31:30.240 the demonic power of the shells that he may liberate the holiness that is held there,

00:31:37.020 and in doing thus fulfills the purpose of the exile of Israel,

00:31:41.540 and redeems Israel and the world in one.

00:31:44.200 But even that is not enough.

00:31:45.560 The holy sin becomes a pattern.

00:31:47.080 Men must hurl themselves into sin in order to tear from it the holy sparks,

00:31:52.940 and soon there is no sin any longer.

00:31:55.460 And then he goes on to speak about how sexuality, like sex stuff,

00:32:00.020 hinges upon these sort of sexual parties.

00:32:06.720 He writes,

00:32:07.040 Sexuality as the locus for the expression of personal freedom has, of course, deep roots.

00:32:12.600 In the Zohar, the sexual metaphor is used very freely.

00:32:16.440 The Orthodox tradition sharply restricted sexual expression, perhaps as has been suggested by some writers.

00:32:22.900 It tells us that the movement grew into a violent political threat to the Orthodoxy theocracy, 0.75

00:32:28.640 and measures and countermeasures were taken by both sides.

00:32:31.480 The Frankists were placed under excommunication, 0.94

00:32:36.100 and the Frankists replied by an attack upon the Talmud, 0.55

00:32:39.000 arguing that it was false and harmful.

00:32:41.460 The Frankists even charged that the Talmud made use of Christian blood obligatory, 0.72

00:32:47.120 and they lent testimony that the Jews were engaging in ritual murder.

00:32:51.280 The climax of Frank's career came when he and all of his followers were converted to Catholicism

00:32:56.620 with great pomp and ceremony.

00:32:58.440 The members of the Polish nobility acted as sponsors,

00:33:02.020 and the newly baptized Jews assumed their family names.

00:33:05.300 Numbers of them thus came into Polish nobility.

00:33:08.680 Jacob Frank himself had King Augustus III as his godfather,

00:33:13.460 and became a Catholic in the presence of the royal family and the court dignitaries in November of 1759,

00:33:19.900 less than 100 years after the apostasy of Sabbatai Zivi,

00:33:25.080 and less than 100 years before the birth of Sigmund Freud.

00:33:27.520 Now, let me tell you why I'm telling you this.

00:33:30.180 So I understood that someone who's thinking about becoming a Catholic,

00:33:34.340 as I was, is learning that, whoa, okay, wait a second.

00:33:37.060 I learned more about Jacob Frank.

00:33:38.660 I realized that they believed that you had to practice incest as a sacrament.

00:33:43.460 They believed that they basically just had to keep intermarrying one another,

00:33:47.820 and that they would achieve power.

00:33:49.940 They believed in the cult of military.

00:33:53.060 Essentially, like I said, going deeper into sin, the greatest sin that you could commit,

00:33:56.900 because he said, I'll bring you down into the depths, would be this act of pedophilia,

00:34:01.600 that they were having these rituals.

00:34:03.540 I learned he entered the Catholic Church, so I'm not just going to end with that book.

00:34:06.020 I need to learn everything I can about this guy, right?

00:34:08.380 Because what's going on here?

00:34:12.040 And the more I learned about him, I was positively astounded that they practiced also apostasy. 1.00

00:34:18.120 So they believed that the way to take down your enemies was to convert into their faiths.

00:34:22.680 You wanted to take down Christianity. 0.99

00:34:24.660 You had to become a Christian.

00:34:25.880 And then from within, you could break down the church.

00:34:28.820 Think about what the world was.

00:34:29.880 You know, the empires were Christian at this time, and they did this. 0.99

00:34:35.460 His followers did this.

00:34:36.460 They mass converted multiple times.

00:34:38.500 We then learned that Frankists convert earlier in that earlier episode. 0.84

00:34:43.100 He becomes Muslim.

00:34:44.480 The Sabbatians became Muslim.

00:34:45.940 So there is, but they're all the same family, which is crazy.

00:34:50.720 And so in trying to learn more about Jacob Frank, I'm buying all these books,

00:34:53.820 and I'm going, is this cult still alive today?

00:34:56.960 Is this really over?

00:34:57.680 Because suddenly I talk about it on a podcast, and I've got all of these organizations screaming

00:35:01.760 at me, going, this is a fringe cult.

00:35:03.440 It's over.

00:35:04.620 This isn't happening anymore.

00:35:06.200 It's irrelevant.

00:35:08.120 Oh, but they lied.

00:35:10.040 Of course they lied, because when you freak out about something you shouldn't freak out

00:35:12.520 about, if this was really a fringe cult and it's so over, why do you care?

00:35:15.520 Like, why do you care if we're talking about something that's over?

00:35:17.880 You know?

00:35:18.900 Oh, it doesn't matter.

00:35:19.820 It's irrelevant.

00:35:21.460 And let me tell you guys, what I discovered right away was not only was this cult not over,

00:35:26.740 but that it made it here to the United States, and we kind of, like, elected a Supreme Court

00:35:31.280 justice that believed in this, like, that Louis Brandes came from a family of Frankists. 0.75

00:35:38.860 See, Jacob Frank had sexual relations with his daughter.

00:35:40.960 They believed in incest. 0.99

00:35:41.780 They believed in breeding.

00:35:42.600 You had to constantly have tons of children.

00:35:44.560 And she became, because they were trying to kind of put the Catholic tradition on its

00:35:50.140 head, they turned her into sort of, like, the unholy Mary.

00:35:55.960 I know that's, I feel blasphemous even saying that, but this is the reality of what these

00:35:59.480 people believed in.

00:36:00.500 And I'm just showing you this article, which explicitly says that we know, can you pull

00:36:07.800 up this JSTOR article, Skylar, just so we can pull this up here?

00:36:10.540 Yeah, meet Ava Frank, the first Jewish female Messiah. 0.88

00:36:14.620 I want to show you this last sentence here.

00:36:16.100 This is crazy.

00:36:18.700 It tells us at the very end of that paragraph.

00:36:20.520 Here we go.

00:36:21.200 So we don't have to even buy it.

00:36:22.360 Like, there we go.

00:36:22.840 So it says, we know that U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandes had such a portrait,

00:36:28.120 speaking about Ava Frank, given to him by his mother, descended from a prominent line

00:36:32.540 of Jews who continued to revere Ava Frank.

00:36:35.740 And I looked into it, and she carried on for her father.

00:36:39.120 Her father became a baron.

00:36:40.560 Jacob Frank became a baron, like Baron Frank, who had a castle in Offenbach, Germany, that

00:36:46.240 these rituals were happening.

00:36:48.940 And one of the things that they concerned themselves with was chemistry, starting, like,

00:36:55.160 pharmaceuticals, right?

00:36:57.560 And you go, what the heck is going on here?

00:36:59.880 And then Ava Frank, before she died, wrote these red letters and told all of her followers,

00:37:05.920 like, if you believe in this Frankist cult, then you need to apostatize again, like convert

00:37:14.920 into various Protestant faiths, Christian faiths, and hide yourselves.

00:37:20.060 These were called red letters that she sent to all of her faithful followers.

00:37:23.900 We're never going to guess, French people that are watching this, because everywhere I

00:37:28.680 look, I'm starting to try to chase this, like, Frankist movement. 0.99

00:37:31.580 Where is it?

00:37:32.100 His tentacles are everywhere.

00:37:33.660 Then I buy a book from Gershom Shalom, that Israeli historian, and this book is called From

00:37:39.900 Frankism to Jacobinism.

00:37:42.780 Oh, like, you're talking like the Jacobins, like the French Revolution, which was started.

00:37:49.700 And lo and behold, I learn that one of the people that funded this movement in a very big

00:37:57.300 way, and you may have heard his name, Junius Frey, that was his French name, because part

00:38:02.540 of this movement, they believed, again, apostasy, take on a different character.

00:38:05.800 It's like theater.

00:38:07.060 Become someone else.

00:38:08.080 Be convincing about who you are, and we'll take over the world.

00:38:12.080 And Junius Frey, actually, his real name when he was born was Moses Debrushka.

00:38:17.180 He was the cousin of Jacob Frank, and he learned French, went down into Strasbourg, and began

00:38:27.180 funding people who rented a house, actually, and began funding people, writing, publishing

00:38:32.840 about this revolution that needed to happen, fostering the revolutionary spirit.

00:38:36.700 Can you pull up Moses Debrushka's Wikipedia?

00:38:40.040 Because this is really, truly incredible.

00:38:41.740 It tells you Moses Debrushka, alias Junius Frey.

00:38:47.700 He was a writer, a poet, and a revolutionary.

00:38:50.740 He converted from Judaism to the Catholic faith.

00:38:53.420 He took the name first, Franz Thomas Sconfeld.

00:38:56.840 So he apostatized once, became Franz Thomas Sconfeld, then did it again after he was elevated

00:39:02.540 to the nobility in Vienna.

00:39:05.060 A lot of them were in Vienna.

00:39:06.140 This book kind of makes that clear.

00:39:08.180 Then became Franz Thomas Edler von Sconfeld.

00:39:13.500 Then he became Junius Frey.

00:39:19.240 You can see that.

00:39:19.760 In 1792, in the wake of the French Revolution, he traveled to Strasbourg to Paris and became

00:39:24.100 a Jacobin, changing his name once again to Junius Frey.

00:39:26.920 The new name derived from Junius, from the Roman Juni family that fostered the famous tyrant

00:39:32.100 slayer Brutus.

00:39:33.180 I am telling you guys, when you start looking into this and you realize that these people

00:39:37.940 had a plot to crush empires and they just converted, because then people don't know what's

00:39:45.920 happening, then, whoa, you're in the Catholic Church.

00:39:47.920 You're going, what are these pedophile scales?

00:39:50.180 What's happening?

00:39:51.760 Genius.

00:39:52.660 And at the same time, you're just intermarrying within your own family.

00:39:56.880 And they had faithful followers.

00:39:58.780 It is one of the things that has really blown my mind, because we know that this sort of

00:40:06.860 modern, over-sexualized culture, whenever you speak to academics about it, they're like,

00:40:11.240 well, it began in French, right?

00:40:12.740 The French Revolution was sexual. 0.72

00:40:15.420 And then I learned this and I realized that there is a theology to this, that people actually

00:40:20.320 believe in this, and the fact that you are not allowed to speak about this without reporters

00:40:25.840 coming to attack you, should concern you.

00:40:29.440 That tells you something's not dead, right?

00:40:31.400 Something is not dead if you can't talk about it.

00:40:33.320 No one would care.

00:40:34.220 Like I said, if you talk about weird things that took place in history, it's just interesting.

00:40:37.820 But you have all of these writers trying to protect this little piece of history.

00:40:43.980 And we learned that these people became very involved with public.

00:40:48.100 They knew that they had to control publishing houses.

00:40:50.880 They created the music.

00:40:52.320 There was so much writing.

00:40:54.660 And it is interesting when you recognize that it made it all the way to America.

00:41:00.960 Uh, Lyndon Baines Johnson was very, by the way, very, very, very obsessed with a couple

00:41:08.200 of weird things that happened into America.

00:41:09.920 We should probably get into that, um, on my book club, because I don't want to get like

00:41:14.060 banned for speaking about that.

00:41:16.060 Ooh, someone's calling me.

00:41:17.840 Hope it's not the White House.

00:41:19.360 It's not.

00:41:19.800 We're good.

00:41:20.740 Um, and it's been, it's been interesting.

00:41:23.880 It's been interesting to also recognize that a lot of this history is just being hidden

00:41:28.720 from us.

00:41:29.200 And I, when I think about us barreling toward this, uh, AI destination, which I think is

00:41:34.040 happening right now, and children, so many of them who can't even read, who don't have

00:41:39.760 the attention span to be able to read, who are asking AI questions and thinking that they're

00:41:44.100 getting the true answers.

00:41:45.380 I can just imagine a time where they just rinse the internet of all of this stuff, where

00:41:50.580 people are no longer able to read books or don't want to read books, whatever it is.

00:41:53.780 And they don't know this history.

00:41:55.500 It's why I started my book club, because I was just amazed at how much happened.

00:41:58.940 I don't know about, and I realized how much power we give the school system, the public

00:42:04.120 school system, the publishing houses to tell us what we need to know.

00:42:08.720 That's it.

00:42:09.060 Oh, the French Revolution.

00:42:09.700 Don't look at beyond that.

00:42:11.200 It's just, you know, some frisky French people, and here's what happened, and then that's it. 1.00

00:42:15.940 No, but everything, as my husband told me when I asked him why he decided to master in theology,

00:42:23.080 like, why were you so driven toward theology when you went to university?

00:42:28.260 And he says, because everything is theology.

00:42:29.640 Everything's a faith.

00:42:30.280 Faith is what guides people, right?

00:42:32.940 You think about Sigmund Freud turning his faith into something modern, right?

00:42:37.180 Making you not even believe it's a faith, that it's a psychoanalytic movement.

00:42:41.100 Oh, no, that's not a faith.

00:42:43.060 That's what this book, at least, spells out pretty clearly with a lot of evidence.

00:42:46.160 It's, yeah, that they could baptize you into their faith, and you don't even realize it.

00:42:52.380 And we're learning about this sort of mixture of the male and the female.

00:42:56.620 That's what he believed in.

00:42:58.060 And suddenly, we're looking up, and you've got all of these psychiatrists who are telling

00:43:02.620 us that, no, like, transgenderism is totally a thing.

00:43:05.240 I find that to be interesting, at least compelling, something that we can talk about.

00:43:09.500 That's interesting.

00:43:10.740 Very interesting.

00:43:11.500 And now we have, in Paris, Brigitte Macron.

00:43:18.040 And rather than the publications being interested in that, they block it.

00:43:24.400 They say, oh, no, that's a crazy conspiracy.

00:43:25.840 We could not have produced more evidence that something is not right there.

00:43:30.340 And they will not even look at it.

00:43:33.780 What does that tell you?

00:43:35.080 Who is in power?

00:43:36.300 Who are these people that are in power?

00:43:38.820 I'll tell you one thing.

00:43:39.960 They are people that understand the threat of anybody learning that this could potentially

00:43:45.580 be a theology that is operating in plain sight.

00:43:49.220 And like I said, I think in my book club last week, I said, are we the muggles?

00:43:55.420 You know, to use a Harry Potter expression here, like, are we the muggles?

00:44:00.800 We have been led to believe that we're atheists, right?

00:44:05.200 And I'm kind of going back to the old we, like, oh, atheism, like your grandparents were 0.90

00:44:09.700 crazy to believe in the Lord.

00:44:13.160 And oh, my gosh, no, this is the new age.

00:44:15.300 You're smarter.

00:44:16.020 It's all about the self.

00:44:17.000 What you can do.

00:44:18.440 You're an atheist. 0.76

00:44:19.360 There's no such thing as an atheist.

00:44:21.100 There's no such thing as an atheist.

00:44:21.960 You believe in something.

00:44:22.860 And if somebody has turned you into a muggle while they very much believe God is real because 1.00

00:44:29.140 they created a whole doctrine and a philosophy that they are following, trying to convince

00:44:34.000 us that they are the gods, right, that they can turn society into whatever it is that they

00:44:38.240 want, keeping us blinded because we don't realize that this is a spiritual battle, but

00:44:43.080 they know it is.

00:44:43.800 And they're fighting for your spirit and they're winning.

00:44:46.040 Yeah.

00:44:47.140 Pretty interesting stuff.

00:44:49.060 Pretty interesting stuff.

00:44:49.900 Anyways, I gave you a lot to consider here.

00:44:54.080 People are obviously all over the world waking up and people are choosing goodness or they

00:44:59.940 are choosing evil.

00:45:00.940 And I will tell you that it feels almost like these events are being catalyzed.

00:45:07.640 You're suddenly seeing people who you thought were real and honest and recognizing that they

00:45:13.300 lie, whether that's a pastor or that's a political person that you follow, whether it's a

00:45:19.520 newspaper organization that you're reading.

00:45:21.480 I hope the point of this podcast, if you take anything away from my podcast, it's that

00:45:26.720 you need to constantly examine who you're listening to and read these books, like educate yourself.

00:45:33.480 And once you become educated, like I have said since the beginning of my career, an educated

00:45:37.080 mind cannot be enslaved.

00:45:39.040 And you'll start to previously examine your earlier enslavements.

00:45:41.620 And yeah, I could say a lot, but I'd save the rest of it for my book club because we're

00:45:46.900 reading a lot of this on my book club and we'll we'll save it for there.

00:45:52.680 By the way, if you want to join the book club, CandaceSowns.com.

00:45:54.500 I see that they put a little prompt up.

00:45:55.640 So, yeah, the conversations get pretty spicy and we are definitely threading all of this

00:46:01.060 together very slowly.

00:46:02.040 And it's it's amazing and terrifying at the exact same time.

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00:48:24.380 Something that I forgot to add, by the way, one more dot I want to connect for you, just

00:48:28.640 so I can throw it all out here, is that Jacob Frank's mother's first, her name, her surname

00:48:36.600 is Herschel, spelled H-I-R-S-C-H-L.

00:48:41.080 And I was able to connect a dot that they are related to Theodore Herzl.

00:48:48.440 And I have that all in a file somewhere because this has been a long effort to get books.

00:48:54.320 Some books are not in print anymore.

00:48:56.080 And what would that say if Theodore Herzl was from a Frankist family?

00:49:00.060 I know there's some very strange things about what happens with his daughters and the only

00:49:04.360 communication, this is very interesting, especially after you read this book, that Sigmund Freud

00:49:10.280 and Theodore Herzl, they didn't really know each other, but clearly something happened

00:49:15.160 and Sigmund Freud sent him his work, you know, psychoanalysis, if you will, sent him a

00:49:23.500 book or a reference or whatever it was about the psychoanalytic movements.

00:49:27.140 And he sent it to him to help him deal with his daughters.

00:49:30.820 So I thought that was interesting.

00:49:32.140 And then you learn that, like, his daughters committed suicide.

00:49:35.360 Theodore Herzl, they say, oh, it's a terrible life.

00:49:37.360 His daughters were just, you know, dealing with mental issues. 0.98

00:49:40.060 And now that I know what I know about Sigmund Freud, which is that he was covering for pedophilia

00:49:44.940 and that when he learned that a bunch of the women had been assaulted by their parents,

00:49:51.080 he then gaslit them.

00:49:52.220 Like, that's what he's famous for.

00:49:53.160 He's famous for creating gaslighting.

00:49:55.580 So, like, that really is it.

00:49:58.100 I have questions about Theodore Herzl.

00:50:01.760 I do.

00:50:02.660 I'm just going to put that out there.

00:50:04.040 And I'm not going to put it out as fact.

00:50:06.120 I'm going to just send you down to do your own research.

00:50:10.500 And, yeah, a murderous cult.

00:50:13.560 They believed, like, you learn about what the Frankists believe. 0.99

00:50:16.060 And it was a military cult.

00:50:17.360 And they'd say, I don't like it.

00:50:19.280 I don't like that when I'm reading the theology, it sounds too much like when we get into people

00:50:26.020 that believe that you have to kill, like, what happens.

00:50:29.120 If a genocide's happening, it's totally fine because it's going to bring in the Messiah. 0.99

00:50:32.420 When you go backwards and see where that came from, it gets pretty terrifying quick.

00:50:36.660 Okay.

00:50:37.820 That's all I'm going to say about that before I read some of your comments.

00:50:41.340 Who do we have first?

00:50:42.640 We have Rose.

00:50:43.160 She writes, the White House has some nerve to interfere with free speech and journalism. 0.65

00:50:47.120 Truth is always important, no matter whose feelings get hurt.

00:50:50.260 Yeah.

00:50:50.580 So here's what I will say.

00:50:51.600 And I'm going to be pretty even here.

00:50:53.560 If you're Trump and you really are trying to negotiate the end of this war and this guy

00:50:58.520 throws it out there and you are not someone who listens to podcasts, like, Trump was very

00:51:02.160 clear on the phone that he didn't even know what he was talking about.

00:51:05.820 He's like, what are you doing?

00:51:06.600 Like, what's happening that I have this president before me asking for you to shut up about

00:51:10.540 his wife?

00:51:12.000 Then he's going, okay, yeah, I know Candace. 0.92

00:51:14.040 I'll call her and just ask her to stop talking about your wife. 1.00

00:51:15.780 It's so silly. 0.99

00:51:16.260 I don't get it. 0.94

00:51:17.240 He did not watch the series.

00:51:18.720 Like, Trump did not watch the coming Brasheed series.

00:51:20.900 So this was not a conscious, like, let me shut down speech.

00:51:23.420 It was kind of like, could you shut up for a little bit so I could try to get this done?

00:51:27.700 Again, that's me being charitable.

00:51:30.740 I do think that he was motivated by goodness when he put in this request.

00:51:35.240 I don't think the people necessarily around him were motivated by goodness.

00:51:40.040 I do think that there was people that were more powerful that wanted this podcast to

00:51:42.980 end, and they thought that that would be a good way to kind of massage Trump into agreeing

00:51:49.480 with that.

00:51:50.720 And I think that's been a lot, by the way, of this particular term, like going after free

00:51:54.820 speech on college campuses.

00:51:55.780 There are clearly people in his administration who would happily squash speech to, and I

00:52:02.620 would say this particular administration is to defend the modern state of Israel.

00:52:06.040 And I'm not okay with that.

00:52:07.060 I've been vocally against that.

00:52:08.380 But I don't think Trump was motivated by anything nefarious.

00:52:12.200 And I have pretty good vibes and I can send stuff.

00:52:14.860 And I hope I'm right about that.

00:52:16.680 I think I am right about that.

00:52:18.200 Jane Roberts writes, I called this.

00:52:19.980 My Amazon book review on Poussard's book, I mentioned that I think Trump has been communicating

00:52:25.220 with Candace about her investigation.

00:52:27.900 You're definitely on it because people in the chat were just like, she's pregnant again,

00:52:31.900 which is really funny.

00:52:34.920 Dee writes, I love you, Candace.

00:52:36.000 Moving to your beautiful state as of tomorrow.

00:52:38.520 Please make the Macron reels stop.

00:52:40.780 Their PR team is working overtime.

00:52:43.060 Yeah, that's another thing that happened.

00:52:44.420 So since that phone call with Trump, I then learned that the Emmanuel Macron circle, so

00:52:51.880 I don't know if it was someone on Brigitte's team or someone on his team, they have separate

00:52:54.940 teams, was communicating with crisis PR firms in Los Angeles.

00:53:01.720 And I was told that those crisis PR firms, one that they were working with, that gave me

00:53:08.100 the tip and told me this, was trying to get content removed from TikTok because TikTok,

00:53:15.300 as I have learned, have very strong rules against speaking about LGBTQ stuff.

00:53:20.860 And so they were very successful.

00:53:21.920 They definitely got all of our videos taken down.

00:53:24.080 And since my phone call with Trump, we got three overnight strikes on our account.

00:53:29.180 So we almost got banned from TikTok.

00:53:31.000 And that was put on a 90-day hold before those strikes were removed.

00:53:34.780 Again, those were clips from my Becoming Brigitte series.

00:53:36.900 And so apparently protecting this kind of LGBTQ lifestyle is more important than free speech

00:53:43.720 on TikTok.

00:53:45.280 And they basically abused that.

00:53:48.360 I'm speaking of the Macron's abused that when they hired a crisis PR firm.

00:53:51.840 By the way, again, is what Candace said about his wife true?

00:53:55.580 Of course it's true because you don't hire a United States-based crisis PR team to deal

00:54:01.140 with fiction.

00:54:02.360 I just would never, who would do this?

00:54:03.480 You could say whatever you want about me.

00:54:04.280 If you just were like Candace, you totally, Candace lived as a man for 30 years.

00:54:09.200 I'm like, ha ha, okay, print your book.

00:54:12.200 Do whatever you need to do because it's insane.

00:54:14.080 There's just so many photos of me growing up with my family and in every high school text,

00:54:18.840 you know, high school yearbook and from elementary, spanning upward.

00:54:21.960 It's just a nonsense.

00:54:23.100 That's not how they are behaving.

00:54:25.060 They are threatened.

00:54:25.920 Melissa Delgadillo writes, excellent journalism.

00:54:29.400 I love that you did not forego our values and what is important to you.

00:54:32.280 You managed this incredibly well.

00:54:33.420 Thank you.

00:54:34.200 Thank you.

00:54:34.940 I really appreciate that.

00:54:35.980 And it was tough, you know, and I'm definitely appreciative first and foremost to my husband,

00:54:39.840 who always is the voice of reason at all times.

00:54:44.020 But then also to Tucker, because I don't have a relationship with Tucker where I would just

00:54:47.420 text him every day and be like, hey, what's for lunch?

00:54:49.180 And I felt like he was the right person to speak to.

00:54:50.820 And I think he had a very sensible Christian approach to it.

00:54:54.180 Jessica Summit writes, off topic, but I just watched Surrounded.

00:54:57.700 What the heck?

00:54:58.420 The majority didn't even let you speak. 0.98

00:55:00.100 It was an outright attack.

00:55:01.700 Yes, you will see that I am at nine months pregnant.

00:55:04.200 I thought it was a great idea to go debate feminism with 20 radical feminists. 0.99

00:55:08.600 And I will talk about that tomorrow because it is quite funny.

00:55:11.700 But you are right.

00:55:12.240 I think people just get triggered when they see my face.

00:55:15.880 They're like, ah, attack.

00:55:17.460 And so they didn't even want to debate.

00:55:19.220 They just wanted to kind of land some high school disses or whatever.

00:55:23.420 Anyways, we'll get to that tomorrow.

00:55:24.460 I promise.

00:55:25.440 Ghosty writes, the next time we see a show title like this, Candace is going to say she's pregnant 0.98

00:55:29.600 again.

00:55:30.160 OK, fair, fair.

00:55:31.260 Maybe I am always pregnant. 0.60

00:55:33.040 What do you want me to do?

00:55:33.500 I'm Catholic now.

00:55:34.760 I'm just saying the matter.

00:55:35.860 It's up to God.

00:55:37.080 And he's just like, yes, always to me.

00:55:38.900 He's like, yes, you shall be pregnant again. 1.00

00:55:40.700 Anyways, you guys, if you want to support our work, you can head to the website,

00:55:45.520 at CandaceOwns.com and support any capacity.

00:55:47.460 The book club is so worth the investment.

00:55:49.640 Join the book club.

00:55:50.260 It's getting really big.

00:55:52.700 Ironically, they would not allow.

00:55:54.560 We went out to the publishers of this book and said, we will sell this book for you.

00:55:58.240 And they do not want to reprint it for some reason.

00:55:59.820 So that's interesting.

00:56:01.140 But I did get some emails that the PDF version of this book is available so you can read

00:56:04.720 it without even having to pay for it.

00:56:06.280 That'll be our next book.

00:56:07.140 We're still reading Hollywood Babylon.

00:56:08.140 Also, if you are a new parent and you want to enter into the vaccine conversation, meaning

00:56:14.200 know anything about the history of vaccines, which is also being completely hidden.

00:56:17.980 And again, once I know what I know about Jacob Frank, Baron Frank, as he was living in Offenbach,

00:56:24.100 Germany, makes me a little uncomfortable.

00:56:26.300 Just big pharma.

00:56:26.940 I'm just really off that.

00:56:28.220 But anyways, if you want to learn about the history of vaccines, the history of birth control,

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00:56:37.240 So it's totally worth it.

00:56:38.080 And you get to support me.

00:56:39.420 And I obviously, like I say every episode, am not being funded by anybody in the Middle

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00:56:43.800 I'm funded by you guys who have believed in me, stepping out on my own to do this thing

00:56:48.980 while being under just a full attack that I was last year for just being interested and 0.98

00:56:53.540 wanting to learn more things and being called stupid. 1.00

00:56:57.020 I love being called stupid because it's an invitation to get smart. 1.00

00:56:59.660 I like getting smart. 0.99

00:57:00.460 And then I can share the stuff that I learned. 0.99

00:57:02.020 So keep calling me dumb.

00:57:04.660 See you guys tomorrow. 0.96

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Candace Owens - June 30, 2025

BREAKING NEWS! I’ve Been Keeping A Secret. ｜ Candace Ep 208

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