Candace Owens - BREAKING NEWS! Jean “M” Trogneux FOUND In The United States In The 60’s. ｜ Candace Ep 232

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00:01:00.300 All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. This, of course, is the last episode before we go on a

00:01:04.920 one-week break because we need to research so much. And I'm going to tell you guys, this is going to be

00:01:09.540 an explosive episode. One of our viewers, and truly, I cannot believe I missed this,

00:01:16.620 they found a certain John Trogno entering the United States in 1961. Plus, on top of that,

00:01:24.720 some of you guys have been messaging me about the show White Lotus and how there is this random

00:01:30.080 incest theme that's suddenly running through it in the recent season. And somehow, that term,

00:01:37.160 White Lotus, has come up in my research. I'm telling you guys, this is all getting really

00:01:41.540 crazy. So welcome back to Candace.

00:01:57.480 To be honest, crazy doesn't really cut it. It's cosmically insane, everything that's going on

00:02:03.860 in the world. So I'm going to first explain this expression that we use in America because I know

00:02:09.460 we have so many international viewers. There's an expression in America, a hit dog will holler.

00:02:15.960 Okay, a hit dog will holler. So what that means is sometimes when you're not meaning to offend

00:02:21.600 anybody, you might say something and people get offended, like they get triggered almost. It elicits

00:02:27.660 a response that you're not expecting. And you go, oh, well, the reason why you reacted to that,

00:02:31.600 you're a hit dog hollering. You reacted to that because there's something that you know.

00:02:35.580 It's not because of what I said. It's because of who you are. Okay. I'll give you an example of

00:02:39.880 that. So I think it was back in 2022. Very strange. I tweeted about genocide. I said something

00:02:46.220 that was perfectly normal. I tweeted, genocide is always wrong, right? The exact tweet is no

00:02:52.780 government anywhere has a right to commit a genocide ever. There is no justification for a

00:02:57.840 genocide. I can't believe this even needs to be said or is even considered the least bit

00:03:02.780 controversial to state. I was reacting to something that a congressman had said,

00:03:08.120 saying that there was no such thing as an innocent Palestinian life. And then all of a sudden,

00:03:12.580 a person who used to be a friend of mine, Dave Rubin, jumps in and gets really defensive about

00:03:18.420 whether or not Palestinians are being genocided. This was like way early. This is, as you saw,

00:03:23.800 actually, 2023. He tweets. What did he tweet? I think we have it. He had a whole chart ready.

00:03:29.160 Well, as I'm sure you know, Candace, the Palestinian population has five, has gone over five times in 1.00

00:03:35.480 the last few decades. But thank you for taking a strong stand against Hamas's stated genocide of

00:03:42.580 the Jews, which is in their charter. Wasn't speaking about Jews, was actually hitting a congressman,

00:03:50.040 Brian Mass, that said something really wrong. And suddenly he's going, oh, look at this.

00:03:54.960 It's Palestinian. They're they're so alive. It's five times the population and the Jews are going 1.00

00:04:00.800 to be exterminated. I'm like, wow, that's a random hit dog that's hollering. And now we fast forward 1.00

00:04:05.460 out of 2023. Now we fast forward to 2025. And yeah, well, the headlines headlines looking a little

00:04:10.760 different. And it looks like maybe they knew where this was headed. Right. This is the Guardian telling

00:04:15.980 us literally, I think this was published yesterday, revealed Israeli military's own data

00:04:21.300 indicates civilian death rate of 83 percent in the Gazan War. So, yeah, they were on the inside of

00:04:30.060 that and freaking out as soon as anybody used the term overreacting. Anytime anybody used the term

00:04:35.840 genocide. Similarly, another example of that is I did an episode back in 2022 and I was discussing the

00:04:42.100 history of psychology. It was literally me just going, oh, my gosh, like psychologists have kind of

00:04:46.240 been up to some pretty sadistic, sick stuff. Also, a lot of them happened to be pedophiles. 0.96

00:04:52.560 And lo and behold, in the media, there was this response to rush to defend a Sigmund Freud, 0.75

00:04:58.480 to pretend that I was crazy for even looking at this. And I was just literally going to do

00:05:02.580 one episode on the history of psychology. But the reaction, the hit dog hollering made me go, OK,

00:05:08.220 there might be something more here, like a trend. So I started to read books and I started to learn

00:05:13.980 more about the history of Sigmund Freud in psychology and it was much darker than I could

00:05:17.160 have ever imagined. And now we have this book club where we're learning that Sigmund Freud was

00:05:21.280 actually covering up for child abuse. Well, chaos was also one of the reasons I fell down the rabbit

00:05:27.460 hole pretty hard. That's a book that was written by Tom O'Neill, Charles Manson, the CIA and the secret

00:05:32.440 history of the 60s, the 60s in America. We learn in that book, my takeaway from that book is that the

00:05:39.760 world is a stage, right? It was about the Manson murders. Everything that the public thought they knew

00:05:44.580 about the Manson murders turns out was pretty false. It also, of course, the Manson murders involved

00:05:50.840 Roman Polanski, right? The official story, Roman Polanski, Sharon Tate. She's pregnant. She gets 0.90

00:05:59.040 viciously murdered. It's a tragedy for him. Then you read the book and you're like, wow, they were up to

00:06:04.060 weird sex stuff. Nothing is what it seems. He hired a photographer to watch him or took a photographer

00:06:10.220 with him to watch him grieving in the household. Very strange things. Like I said, my takeaway,

00:06:16.460 the world is a literal stage and that there are, in fact, military grade actors who use the press as

00:06:25.280 their supporting cast to convince us, the unwitting audience, that certain events have taken place in

00:06:30.800 the world when they maybe actually did not take place or maybe did not take place in the way that

00:06:35.920 we thought they did. The book made me realize the power of psychology, the power of propaganda.

00:06:42.180 These two terms are actually relatives. And also Sigmund Freud, who created modern psychology,

00:06:47.760 was a literal relative to Edward Bernays. That was his nephew, who was the father of propaganda. So it's

00:06:53.340 all related. Edward Bernays, by the way, was the father of military grade propaganda. He got involved.

00:06:59.460 World War II, convincing Americans. It's like totally cool to want to genocide Germans. Totally 0.99

00:07:05.900 cool. He's, oh, the Germans are so evil. We can do this with movies. We're going to create this image 1.00

00:07:11.260 and we're going to war. Well, recently, you guys, there was another hit dog, as you've been following

00:07:17.420 this series, that made quite the screeching holler. And I would say it was in the form of Emmanuel

00:07:24.120 Macron's extraordinary lawsuit against me. Never before has anybody filed this lawsuit. He's panicked. We

00:07:28.760 don't know why he's panicked, but he randomly includes in this lawsuit amongst the allegations

00:07:34.860 and charges against me that have completely thrown him over the edge. Things I have done have thrown

00:07:41.040 the presidential couple over the edge. He mentions the fact that I bring up MKUltra throughout the

00:07:50.960 series. Actually, it wasn't throughout the series. In fact, he mentions this MKUltra program 18 times

00:07:58.400 in this lawsuit. Okay. The lawsuit filed against me, MKUltra is discussed 18 times. I'm sorry,

00:08:07.840 but is that not weird? Like what about MKUltra got him so triggered that they're furiously writing

00:08:14.620 about this? And I'm going to show you here in the lawsuit at the bottom of page 59, paragraphs 132 to

00:08:20.960 133. We're not going to go over all 18 examples. You can read this lawsuit and you could type in

00:08:26.800 MKUltra yourself and see that everything that we're telling you is true. But they wrote to encourage,

00:08:33.280 actually at the top 132, toward the end of episode two, Owens turned her gaze towards President

00:08:38.600 Macron to begin ceding her eventual claim that he is the product of MKUltra or a similar government

00:08:45.600 control program. You can see that's not in quotations. I never said that. MKUltra was a 0.70

00:08:50.800 secret CIA program that conducted human experiments to develop mind control techniques using drugs,

00:08:56.520 psychological manipulation, and torture. That's true. They then write, to encourage suspicion,

00:09:01.780 Owens characterized President Macron's childhood as a black hole with very little information available.

00:09:06.640 She suggested that his upbringing may be linked to clandestine government plot because his father,

00:09:11.580 to a clandestine government plot because his father was a psychiatrist and his mother was a

00:09:15.260 pediatrician. Owens referenced the book Chaos about the CIA's MKUltra program and told viewers that its

00:09:22.320 contents were relevant as we go along with this series, learning about some government programs which

00:09:28.380 involved a lot of psychiatrists. It all just kind of fits in. Yeah, why are you so triggered about me

00:09:35.760 and what I actually did was I spoke about the fact that throughout Emmanuel Macron's childhood,

00:09:42.600 he was isolated. Okay. The classmates spoke out and said he was a loner. He was always by himself. He

00:09:49.280 spoke out and said that he was very, very, very much was a bookworm, got lost in books with his

00:09:55.460 grandmother. And then I spoke about how one of the aims of the MKUltra program was to isolate

00:10:02.600 individuals to see how they would react after being isolated. I mean, it was a sadistic time. The

00:10:08.000 60s just was a sadistic time. I made it clear that we have no idea whether or not the program went

00:10:13.120 global. We know that the majority of the files were erased, effectively destroyed by the government

00:10:22.460 because they didn't want people knowing what they were looking into. It was all about mind control.

00:10:26.240 Why is Macron upset? Why are Brigitte and Emmanuel upset that I mentioned that on episode two of this

00:10:34.520 series? Series is about your wife having been born a male. You're hyper-focusing on MKUltra program to

00:10:40.900 the tune of 18 times it's being honorably mentioned in this lawsuit of everything that I'm alleging.

00:10:46.660 Why is it that that triggered the couple seriously? Well, you will recall a couple of days ago,

00:10:51.980 someone saw a photo that they thought looked like it could be Jean-Michel Trugnau, right?

00:10:59.040 Showing you the side-by-side here. They said, I'm watching a documentary, looking at this side

00:11:03.480 profile, and look, it looks like it could be him. Now, I'm looking at this, and I'll tell you what I

00:11:10.500 see in my eyes. You can pull that back up, Skylar. On the right, you see it looks like someone like a 0.59

00:11:15.660 student, right? And that they're writing. And yeah, the hairline can look similar. But honestly,

00:11:22.160 we didn't know. We didn't know. But given the extraordinary and unprecedented lawsuit that is

00:11:26.360 being filed by this couple against me, we are going to chase down any and every available lead,

00:11:32.240 right? We want to now get to the actual truth. We're now not done with this series. This series

00:11:36.680 has to become my life because he's threatening my entire life, right? They want to sue me out of

00:11:42.860 existence. For what? For reporting on a book? That doesn't make any sense. Like I said, we weren't

00:11:50.580 positive. We're just chasing leads. And again, Brigitte, as we know, rather mysteriously

00:11:55.300 stated in a 2018 interview that she spent a lot of time throughout her childhood in the

00:12:02.780 United States, that she had fond memories of the United States, that she celebrated the

00:12:06.380 moon landing with Americans. So that means, to be clear, her name is Brigitte Marie Trogno.

00:12:14.180 We should be able to find Brigitte Marie Trogno, having entered in the United States in the 60s

00:12:19.300 multiple times. But we couldn't find Brigitte Marie. We also couldn't find Jean-Michel Trogno

00:12:27.300 anywhere in the United States manifest, the ship manifest that we're accustomed to looking through.

00:12:32.200 And I want you guys to know this. The Trogno, last name, is incredibly uncommon. It's almost like

00:12:41.340 when you start looking at this story, it only exists exclusively in and around the region of

00:12:46.880 Amiens. It's not even popular throughout France. It's just that northern region. That's when you start

00:12:53.300 seeing all of these Trogno's. And similarly, in the United States, we actually decided to perform a search. 1.00

00:12:58.180 There's one individual in the United States, living in the United States, that has the last

00:13:02.380 name Trogno. Okay. It's a random individual that we're assuming is unrelated to this story.

00:13:08.500 So we're going, okay, well, what are the chances we're going to be able to actually find Brigitte,

00:13:12.680 Jean-Michel? I looked everywhere, tried Jean-Michel, John Trogno. Nothing came up. And then yesterday,

00:13:18.680 we got an explosive email. And we were at the beginning of this, guys. So bear with me as I take

00:13:24.000 you through this. Of course, there is potential that we are making some errors. This is an

00:13:28.140 open investigation. If we make errors, we will correct them in the future. Now, I'm going to

00:13:32.680 protect the person's identity and not read the name so they don't get unnecessarily sued by the

00:13:36.780 president of France. They said, can I show? I'm assuming you saw that a Jean-Marie Trogno

00:13:42.600 entered into the United States in the 1960s. And I'm going, no, I most certainly did not see that a

00:13:49.340 Jean-Marie Trogno entered into the United States in the 1960s. That's kind of like a very good time 1.00

00:13:54.120 frame that we are looking for Jean-Michel Trogno. And this is not a popular last name.

00:14:00.080 And they tell me, yeah, it's on the Department of Justice website. It's in a document on in the

00:14:05.100 National Archives. You can see that a certain Jean-Marie Trogno entered into the United States.

00:14:10.320 And he's listed as a crew member that is aboard a French cargo ship on August 27th, 1961. Okay,

00:14:22.940 so Jean-Michel would have been 16 years old. And we have no trace of Jean-Michel during those years,

00:14:27.960 right? We don't know where Jean-Michel went. We don't really know where this first lady went either

00:14:33.920 when she was spending time in America. This Jean-Marie, and we can show you this document,

00:14:38.600 we can pull this up. You can see it at the bottom there. Jean-Marie, it tells us the last

00:14:44.540 four digits of the passport is 3408, that he was an oiler. And yeah, elsewhere, we find that we

00:14:55.680 believe that they came from Le Havre, France, which is a port and also a city in France, and that they

00:15:02.080 made a stop in British Columbia. So Canadians, if you're paying attention, that stop, by the way,

00:15:08.500 it was on August 25th, two days earlier, 1961, they were in British Columbia. And then they

00:15:14.440 finished this trip here, August 27th. And they then disembark in Seattle. Okay, very interesting.

00:15:24.560 Okay, this is a crew. And we're now on the West Coast. I'm going to assume again, that this individual

00:15:31.020 has got to be related because we know Marie is their family name. That is the dad's name,

00:15:37.320 Jean-Michel Marie Truong-Yau. It is still Brigitte's middle name, Brigitte Marie Truong-Yau. Okay,

00:15:44.680 so it's interesting. Again, it is during Jean-Michel Truong-Yau's missing years.

00:15:50.140 Also, what we learned from this document, when you go through it, is that the captain of the ship,

00:15:56.940 his name is Guy Choplin. Okay, C-H-O-P-L-I-N. And I crawled through everything that I could find on

00:16:06.920 this individual. We were only able to come up with one picture that was available of this captain in

00:16:13.960 this rather obscure Marine Digest. And Skylar, you have to remind me, yeah, it's Michigan. Okay,

00:16:19.380 you can see it right there. It's speaking about the MS Michigan, this Marine Digest. You can see

00:16:24.380 there on the left-hand side, that is the captain, Guy Choplin, being presented with a photo. I'm going

00:16:33.980 to read you that caption. It's in small print, so bear with me. Captain Guy Choplin, master of French

00:16:39.140 lines, new MS Michigan, receives a framed photo of Seattle's harbor from a delegation of the Seattle

00:16:46.380 Junior Chamber of Commerce. The French-built vessel is on her maiden voyage to the Pacific coast,

00:16:54.200 participating in the brief ceremonies were, and then tells us that is Charles McLeod,

00:16:59.740 that is Rolanda Luna, who's holding the photo on the left-hand side. And then it's Captain

00:17:05.000 Choblin, who is not looking up, so we can't get really a great idea of what he looks like,

00:17:09.820 even though he is looking forward. And also a certain Donald R. Tate. General Steamship Corp,

00:17:16.580 Limited, is the general Pacific coast freight agents for the line. The photo was a gift from

00:17:22.720 the Seattle Port Commission. Now, one thing that I have a question regarding is that General Steamship

00:17:28.140 Corp, that is not who owns the ship. That could make sense, by the way. I know, just to be super

00:17:33.840 honest with you guys, nothing about shipping. So I am looking forward to the tips that are going to

00:17:39.700 flood in. You guys can probably even look at that photo and the outfit he is wearing and tell me

00:17:44.840 stuff, right? If you know about shipping, you know about shipping. If you know about cargo ships,

00:17:49.440 if you know about crews, how often crews change out. The point is, is this person is listed as a

00:17:54.280 crew member of this ship. We could not find that guy, Choplin, outside of this photo.

00:18:00.780 Now, regarding the ship, however, because then we just said, okay, what can we find out about this

00:18:07.400 ship? There wasn't much, but a very interesting thing was discovered. Now, you will recall that

00:18:14.280 Jean-Michel Trogneau, when we were like thinking about this Stanford thing, we're like, well, we know

00:18:18.840 that he has a military file. We know that he was in Spire, Germany, and he was a non-commissioned

00:18:26.320 officer. And then the trail just sort of runs cold. He's in Germany. Last thing that we know,

00:18:32.440 and then it runs cold. He's playing hockey. We told you about that. I know there's people in

00:18:35.480 Germany that are looking through, trying to find photos and helping us out there. We really

00:18:39.340 appreciate that. But still, given that information, it would have been a stretch for us to assume

00:18:44.680 that he was aboard a ship that somehow made its way close to Stanford University, just in time for a

00:18:51.720 psychological experiment that happened in 1971. Like, that's a bit of a stretch. There is quite

00:18:57.380 literally no evidence of that, right? But it is certainly not a stretch that whoever this Jean-Marie

00:19:05.280 Trogneau character is, okay, we can potentially put him exactly near Stanford University beginning at the

00:19:13.660 year of 1971. Do you want to know why we can do that? Because, well, as you just saw, he's listed as

00:19:19.440 the crew of the MS Michigan. And in 1971, the MS Michigan was doing routes specifically from Germany

00:19:29.400 to Oakland, California. Okay? How do we know that? We learned this via the most obscure and random

00:19:36.980 lawsuit that was filed. I like the karma of that just being a lawsuit that lets us be able to put

00:19:41.460 this Jean-Marie Trogneau character potentially as a person working on this boat. There was a random

00:19:47.180 lawsuit that was filed against the shipping company for having ruined cargo, okay? The lawsuit was

00:19:52.980 filed by the variant associates against the General Transatlantic Company. Now, the General

00:20:01.360 Transatlantic Company, it's actually a French company that owns the ship. And so you can see that right

00:20:07.440 there at the top. It says the company General Transatlantique, which I think was the person who

00:20:14.760 runs that, was given a Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1955 in France. So that would be interesting to

00:20:21.240 see that if there's some photos of that, who that was. Anyways, I'm not going to bore you with the

00:20:24.420 details of this lawsuit, but the French liner was appealing a decision, a lower court decision,

00:20:28.920 which found them guilty of having damaged cargoes, an 8,000 pound electromagnet. And they found them

00:20:35.840 guilty and owing $35,000. Not a small amount of money in the 70s. But the lawsuit lists the facts of

00:20:43.880 what happened. The lawsuit states, quote, on January 18th, 1971, Varian contracted with the French line

00:20:53.640 ship to ship a spectrometer system packed in six separate boxes from Oakland, California to Hamburg,

00:21:02.480 West Germany, okay? To be clear, Oakland is about a 35-minute drive from Stanford University. Some of you

00:21:11.500 guys are not from California. It's right there. Like, that's like, that is right there. I've spoken,

00:21:16.540 gone to Oakland, drove down, spoke at Stanford University. You can kind of do them all. All the

00:21:21.620 universities right there, UCLA included, Berkeley and Stanford University. So I was like, okay, that's

00:21:27.500 really interesting now. We know that this liner was going back and forth, and I would like to know

00:21:33.680 if Jean-Marie Trogneau was the crew member while it was doing those rounds in 1971. Find me,

00:21:42.840 Jean-Marie Trogneau. This should be very simple. Like I said, there's not a lot of people to choose

00:21:48.040 from, okay? Now, I want to say something about the Stanford experiment, because many of you guys

00:21:53.180 emailed us regarding that photo. Like I said, it looks like he's taking notes. And you guys were going,

00:21:59.760 first and foremost, I should let you know, all of our worlds are converging,

00:22:02.180 going back to that book, Chaos, which for forever reason, we're not allowed to discuss

00:22:05.480 without upsetting the president of France. Well, I remember that Stanford University

00:22:10.920 was brought up a few times, you know, particularly as it relates to MKUltra. The MKUltra experiment,

00:22:19.120 like the president says, was this covert psychological operation that was run by Dr. Jolly West. Like,

00:22:25.740 this is the villain of all villains, Dr. Jolly West. And when you read that book, you're just like,

00:22:31.840 wow, I can't even with the 60s. I trust nothing that comes out of the 60s.

00:22:35.860 Well, interestingly enough, Jolly West, per Tom O'Neill's reporting, went to Stanford University.

00:22:42.320 He did a fellowship at Stanford University in 1966. Okay? So we know for a fact, based on that book,

00:22:49.980 that there were Stanford students, graduate students that were working with Jolly West.

00:22:54.820 Everything that happened in that book, I'm not going to recap everything, but it tells you in this page

00:22:58.240 from chaos that late in the fall of 1966, Jolly West arrived in San Francisco to study hippies

00:23:04.100 and LSD. The Bay Area had seen an unprecedented migration of middle-class youth with an explosion

00:23:09.740 of recreational drug use. West felt he had to witness it firsthand. He secured a government grant

00:23:15.260 and took a year-long sabbatical from his professorship at the University of Oklahoma,

00:23:21.440 nominally to pursue a fellowship at Stanford. Although that school had no record of his participation

00:23:27.280 in a program there. So it's like, he went there and did a fellowship, but there's no record of that,

00:23:33.080 which if you've read Chaos, you know, all the records were destroyed. And if it wasn't for the

00:23:36.980 fact that that journalist, Tom O'Neill, started going through obscure university files, he,

00:23:44.820 Jolly West, until the day he died, denied having anything to do with MKUltra. And unfortunately for him,

00:23:50.760 then along came Tom O'Neill and he explodes the entire affair. So he was very good at erasing his

00:23:56.960 tracks until he found them in a box that Jolly West had donated. I can't remember if it was to UCLA or

00:24:02.860 to what university it was. After his death, posthumously, there were tons of boxes and Tom

00:24:09.740 O'Neill took the time to go through them. Anyways, lastly, I want to point out something else that's

00:24:13.980 interesting. Much of what the public was told about the Stanford experiment was a lie. Okay.

00:24:19.960 There were accusations of bad faith acting, intentional acting, because they wanted to say

00:24:26.300 that they got a specific response from having done this experiment. And you will recall, I brought up

00:24:32.900 this guy, David Eshelman, who was also known as the John Wayne of the experiment. And he pretends like,

00:24:39.360 oh, I had no idea I was going to be a guard. But then on day two, I just became more brutal. And I liked it.

00:24:44.440 And it was sadistic. And this was like, I just got into it. He's very over the top and comes across

00:24:49.540 like an actor. I'll let you watch that clip again real quickly.

00:24:53.500 Each day I said, well, what can we do to ramp up what we did yesterday? How can we build on that?

00:25:00.500 Why did you want to ramp things up? Two reasons, I think. One was because I really believed I was

00:25:06.220 helping the researchers with some better understanding of human behavior. On the other

00:25:12.480 hand, it was personally interesting to me. You know, I cannot say that I, you know, did not enjoy

00:25:18.500 what I was doing. Maybe, you know, having so much power over these poor defenseless prisoners,

00:25:26.320 you know, maybe, you know, you kind of get off on that a little bit.

00:25:29.240 So to be clear, he was an actor. He was pursuing a degree in acting. And he is, in fact, a trained

00:25:37.560 actor. And while the public was told that these participants also didn't know each other, you know,

00:25:43.860 we just putting it out of the newspaper and we got a response. And then we went through some

00:25:48.960 assessment and picked the ones that we thought would be best suited. They actually did know each

00:25:53.800 other. And while David Eshelman runs around and gets all the attention and talks about how he loved it

00:25:58.360 and like got into this role very quickly, he knew another participant who, for whatever reason,

00:26:05.400 was kind of neglected. Movies were made about this experiment and no one wanted to speak to John

00:26:09.660 Marks, who was one of the individuals that was a part of this experiment. And he was saying that

00:26:16.760 this experiment that we were involved in, what the public knows, they were lied to. It's fraudulent.

00:26:20.540 Now, how do I know that he says that? Well, because I found a Reddit thread.

00:26:24.620 He did an AMA on Reddit. OK, an AMA is ask me anything. Now, the first thing you're going to

00:26:30.740 think is Kansas is Reddit. We don't know if that's him. Wrong. We know it's him because to prove that

00:26:35.380 it's him, he provides a link of him. He provides his California driver's license, which says that

00:26:40.560 he was he's in South Salito, California. He also held up a sign, said prison guard, three, six,

00:26:47.460 15 and goes, you guys can see this is actually me. And then just to be double, doubly sure,

00:26:52.800 triply sure. Rather, I actually did a side by side comparison of his face. I found his high

00:26:58.400 school photo because I'm a psycho in a yearbook. And I was able to determine because he makes it

00:27:04.180 clear that it's the same individual. So this guy was this was legit. It was John Mark. And what he

00:27:10.440 says in this Reddit AMA from 11 years ago, the first thing that he wants people to know is that

00:27:16.940 the bad guard from the night shift, that being David Eshelman, was a high school friend of mine,

00:27:24.200 he writes. Unfortunately, the experiments and the way his play acting was interpreted as a real

00:27:31.800 as real tainted the results and caused me to not feel as friendly toward him anymore after that.

00:27:37.800 So they knew each other. They were friends. Occasionally, he goes on, we meet at reunions.

00:27:41.780 And at one occasion, he apologized for his behavior. And he goes on and he writes, and this

00:27:46.500 gets really interesting. The prisoner who was removed from the experiment for a breakdown was

00:27:52.440 the younger brother of one of my friends. OK, so now we realize that three of them potentially knew

00:27:56.560 each other and even more because he writes, but I never had any subsequent contact with him

00:28:00.360 when he was removed. He was replaced by a new prisoner who was, in fact, a grad student

00:28:07.620 who was working with Philip Zimbardo, that's the guy who ran the entire experiment, who was placed

00:28:13.200 as a mole to find out what the student prisoners were up to. This new prisoner slash grad student

00:28:19.520 was also an acquaintance of mine. So while I didn't out him, and I'm sure none of us were

00:28:25.500 supposed to know that he was a part of the research team, nor was his background ever published

00:28:30.860 to my knowledge, I knew who he was. OK, because that becomes very interesting. So he's saying

00:28:37.220 that which we learn in terms of what was publicized, some people quit the experiment. Those people have

00:28:42.360 said that they were acting. One of the individuals said they were acting. And he's now saying that

00:28:47.360 there was this prisoner swap, which wasn't reported, where a graduate student then went

00:28:52.720 in and became a prisoner. But he was really a mole that was working under Philip Zimbardo. Now,

00:28:56.380 that part is interesting because many of you emailed us about prisoner number 2093,

00:29:01.020 thinking that that prisoner in the Stanford prison experiment looked a lot like Jean-Michel

00:29:06.620 Truongneau. But again, we didn't think that was possible because in that side profile shot,

00:29:10.840 the JMT lookalike is clearly not a prisoner. Like he's like writing notes. He's not in the right

00:29:14.700 prison garb. And then suddenly there is a lot of gray images where it looks like it could be JMT.

00:29:21.600 But then in other images throughout, that prisoner looks like a totally different person.

00:29:27.500 Like he's got long blonde hair here. And I'm going, why do I feel like this is two different

00:29:32.820 people? Like sometimes he's got weight on him and sometimes he doesn't. So I just kind of put it

00:29:36.940 out of my mind. The appearance, just like the change in the appearance seems strange. But now this guy is

00:29:42.120 saying like, no, they changed around who the prisoners were that they sent in a mole. And who knows what

00:29:50.220 happened? Because Zimbardo has essentially locked down the files. A lot of you guys were like, oh,

00:29:55.300 the names of them. And we found the names here of the people that were involved in the experiment.

00:30:00.180 No, he says in his book that he used different names to protect their identities. And he has never

00:30:06.380 actually released the full list of the individuals, the 24 students who we were told didn't know each

00:30:12.300 other that were involved in this experiment. And so I don't know. I don't know what to think here,

00:30:18.820 but I am now very interested. There's a lot of things that are, that's happening now to be clear.

00:30:24.020 It could be nothing. It could be nothing. As we saw during the Kamala Chronicles, as we began looking

00:30:29.440 into things, sometimes, you know, you want something to fit and it could fit and then you're wrong. And so

00:30:34.960 if it's wrong and we get more information, we'll be the first ones to let you know, right?

00:30:38.940 Right. We wish we could just ask these questions and shut things down by going to Brigitte and

00:30:45.500 Emmanuel. They don't want to answer any questions. I want to ask Brigitte, hey, by the way, you can

00:30:49.220 be the first one to shut this down. Be like, hey, here's the dates that I was in the United States.

00:30:52.940 Here it is. Here's me pictured with my family. I assume you took some pictures while you were in

00:30:58.240 your youth in the United States. Is that a fair assumption that like when you go on a trip, you might

00:31:01.940 take some photos if you spent that much time in your youth? Brigitte could shut this down.

00:31:06.340 We have never been in the business of trying to present a story that's not truthful. It doesn't

00:31:11.060 help me. It doesn't help people that are at home. But I am getting increasingly interested

00:31:16.360 because you have to wonder what the hell warrants a response like this from a sitting president in a

00:31:25.160 foreign country. What the hell warrants a response from a sitting president of this country? Why did Trump

00:31:31.200 call me so quickly? Something I didn't think about until I was reflecting upon it, how quick that

00:31:36.500 phone call came in right after Emmanuel Macron left? Is there something that we accidentally,

00:31:42.280 like I always do, stumbled upon just because I was interested? Did I accidentally stumble upon

00:31:46.640 something that could potentially implicate the United States in some way? What was Brigitte doing?

00:31:52.020 Like, actually, what was Brigitte doing in the United States throughout her youth?

00:31:55.140 The good thing is that, first and foremost, you guys can email us and we will investigate

00:32:01.000 everything. We will actually include links to all of this. The, Skylar, if you want to make a note,

00:32:05.060 the Reddit AMA, we will include a link to that. Also, we will include a link so that you can see that

00:32:11.040 on the Department of Justice website. If you are in Canada, please start looking through shipping

00:32:15.760 records and see if you can find a Jean-Marie, anybody with a last name Truong Yeo. That would also be

00:32:20.220 helpful everywhere you are in the world. Also, in that lawsuit, it said that the ship deviated.

00:32:25.620 That was one of the reasons they were suing and went off course. They say that the ship stopped

00:32:29.440 in Antwerp. So yeah, tons of people all over that can get involved and just see what you can find on

00:32:35.740 Ship Manifest if you can find that last name. And maybe you're going, actually, Candace, I know

00:32:40.000 the crew member, Jean-Marie Shrogno, and I can shut this down immediately for you. Here is me and my

00:32:46.760 buddy. We worked on that ship together and we've got photos because people take photos growing up,

00:32:51.140 working together. That would be normal. Please send it to us. We want to know. We are dying to know.

00:32:57.080 This is truly the most exciting lead, I think, is this Jean-Marie Shrogno. I do think that that

00:33:03.020 individual has to at least be in the family of Brigitte Macron. Is it the dad? The dad would

00:33:09.660 have been alive during that time, maybe. But they tell us nothing. So we have to investigate this stuff

00:33:15.500 ourselves. Also, something else I want to add here that I found to be interesting.

00:33:20.760 We found Jonathan Mark, the Reddit poster, that he graduated from Stanford four years later.

00:33:27.800 He is on the Stanford alumni directory from that exact same place. I forgot what it was called,

00:33:32.880 like Salsa something, California. It's listed that he graduates then four years later. So that's

00:33:39.280 another question mark. Again, we were told it's supposed to be all these people around. I don't know

00:33:43.300 what's happening. But as we take this week off, we're going to start going through and seeing what

00:33:47.860 it is that we can learn about every individual that was involved in this experiment, because I've

00:33:51.040 already discovered that a few of them spoke French. I don't know what the chances are that you round up

00:33:56.180 random people in America, graduate students, and they're French. They can also speak French.

00:34:01.080 That's of interest to me. But we could be trying to make it fit, you know. We could be trying to make

00:34:06.520 it fit, and maybe it doesn't. So you guys will have to let us know. Don't go away, because now I have to tell

00:34:11.620 you something about White Lotus. And I don't think I—I never thought that I would say this on the show.

00:34:16.980 But people of China, I need your help. People of China who actually can't watch YouTube, but I know 0.99

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00:36:44.760 Okay, now to the second part, China. China, I need your help. Okay, Asia, I need your help.

00:36:51.740 Actually, because India is kind of involved in this too. Very preliminary research I'm talking about.

00:36:56.680 While we were on break, there is a lot of things we have to look into. But one of the themes that we

00:37:03.780 have talked about on the show, which is interesting, is how culture seems to be pushing upon us this idea

00:37:12.140 that incest can be sexy. Most recently, I was referring to the Kardashian sisters. I actually

00:37:17.660 have been screaming about this for years, even back when I was on Daily Wire, going, hey guys,

00:37:21.900 you know how they're selling perfume, but like Kylie and her sisters are all half naked next to each 1.00

00:37:27.920 other, making sexy faces. Yet that is them trying to kind of seed the idea to us that incest can be

00:37:35.040 okay, and it's not okay. Similarly, Heidi Klum, her daughter just turned 18. They did this ad where

00:37:41.620 they were like half naked. I don't remember what, I think they were, might've been selling lingerie.

00:37:44.780 Okay. That, if my sister even came within 20 feet of me in a bikini, I would tackle her. Okay. 1.00

00:37:53.500 Supposed to be like, I, you know, but they're trying to be like, oh, like, oh, and we're enticing

00:37:58.300 and sexy, like buy the product. That's weird. That is very strange. Well, let me tell you something.

00:38:05.920 A few of you actually emailed us and said, Candace, further to that point, I don't know if you watch

00:38:10.960 White Lotus. I watched the first two seasons. Uh, it's an HBO series, but there was randomly

00:38:17.180 this there, and there was certainly outrage about it. There was randomly, they just sort of threw in

00:38:23.840 this incest theme. I think the story goes that, and Skylar, tell me in my ear that two brothers,

00:38:29.100 or, or you can, can you speak Skylar? I don't know if you can speak in there.

00:38:31.320 Okay. Apparently it was two, two guys.

00:38:40.700 Okay. So apparently there was a kissing scene with two brothers that took place on this smash

00:38:46.080 hit series. Everyone's just like, why, why, why is this necessary? Why, why do we need gay incest in 1.00

00:38:50.920 this moment for the show to be good? And the storyline is about elites and they're kind of 0.86

00:38:55.500 getting away with a lot of stuff. Um, and the hotel is named the White Lotus Hotel. Nobody really knew

00:39:01.960 why this was named the White Lotus Hotel, or at least I didn't know. I knew nothing about that

00:39:05.260 term, White Lotus at all. I thought it was just like maybe a pretty flower. I don't know. Maybe

00:39:08.800 some sort of a bug. I had no idea. Well, you're not going to believe it. So we received another email

00:39:13.680 and somebody gave me a tip and said, Hey, Candace, I'm trying to access this file, but I am getting

00:39:18.980 the last name Trognyo. And I can't, but when I click it, I can't open it. And what I realized when

00:39:25.880 I took a look at that was the individual was trying to access a book and it required that person paid

00:39:30.120 $33 to be able to access why Trognyo was being mentioned in the context of China in the 18th

00:39:38.460 century. Now the 18th century is a pretty big century, right? Because the French Revolution happens 0.97

00:39:43.340 in 1789. And by and large, the French Revolution was a sexual revolution. Okay. And in this book,

00:39:51.340 I'm actually going to read it to you guys. Give me a second because I downloaded it. It's very

00:39:54.800 expensive. And I'm going to tell you what it tells us. It tells us that, and I'm recapping here,

00:40:00.000 but essentially there was in China, a rebellion that took place and a bunch of Jesuits leading up

00:40:09.360 to this rebellion, not a bunch of Jesuits, a few, a handful of Jesuits under the guise of saying that

00:40:16.440 we're here on a Catholic mission came in to China. One of their names being Father Trognyo. I kid you

00:40:25.420 not. The full name is Father Francois Theodore Trognyo came in to China. And then it tells us very

00:40:35.000 quickly in his book that the Catholics were accused of being White Lotus members. And I'm like, okay, 0.87

00:40:43.520 that is interesting. What is White Lotus? And then I learned that there's this big rebellion that took

00:40:49.440 place in China. It was called the White Lotus Rebellion. And in my preliminary research, it tells

00:40:54.440 me that the aspects of this, there were accusations that were thrown of sexual impropriety that was

00:41:01.800 taking place. I don't know if it had something to do with tantric sex rituals. It's weird. It is

00:41:09.060 weird, okay, that somehow this was taking place. And then we learned that a Father Trognyo, and then

00:41:14.280 when I researched, of course, he's from the Picardy region of France, that a Father Trognyo was there.

00:41:19.260 So I'm going to read you directly from that book. The book is called This Suffering Is My Joy. And

00:41:24.940 they don't even put the full name of Father Trognyo. I actually had to look up Father Trognyo after this

00:41:29.700 book. But it tells us that the suspicions of Catholics being linked to the White Lotus sect led

00:41:37.880 to a persecution in 1747, in which Martilia, I'm going to spell that for you guys, M-A-R-T-I-L-I-A-T,

00:41:48.240 and other Europeans were forced to leave Sichuan for Macau. Okay, so they were French missionaries.

00:41:56.000 And they said that they somehow got blamed, said that they were being accused of being a part of

00:42:02.120 the White Lotus sect. But it tells us on the next page that under Mu-Linay, who was a Jesuit missionary

00:42:10.680 that went into China, he then brought in three other Lazarists. And their names were Fathers Gandon,

00:42:19.860 Father Monet, and Father Trognyo. But they were sent from France, and they arrived in China at the end of 1733.

00:42:30.380 And then they get accused. So 1733, they are in France, they enter into France, this Father Trognyo.

00:42:37.160 And then by 1747, they're being linked to the White Lotus sect. So I will ask you,

00:42:45.100 tell me more about the White Lotus sect. If you live in China, tell me the stuff that I can't find,

00:42:50.580 because there does seem to be a wall between what happens in the East and what happens here.

00:42:55.200 What aspects of it were considered sexual perversion? They believe that, I guess,

00:43:00.200 some rituals were taking place. Please tell me more about that. I am fascinated by that period in

00:43:04.960 general, like I said, not only because the French Revolution happens, but because another hit dog 0.96

00:43:08.980 that hollered in all of this was when I talked about Jacob Frank. When I talked about this Frankist

00:43:13.980 movement that took place at this same time, they were individuals that were, it was a cult of

00:43:20.460 military. They believed in constantly changing their names. And Jacob Frank's cousin was the person

00:43:27.320 behind the French Revolution. They mass converted into the Catholic Church because they practice

00:43:32.820 apostasy. So the best way to bring down your enemies is from within. So to pretend that you're

00:43:38.020 pious, that you're Catholic, and then to crush the church from the inside. These are all available facts. 0.99

00:43:42.640 You can go look this up. Jacob Frank's cousin went by three different names, by the way, Austria. If

00:43:48.560 you want to look into the von Schoenfeld family, it's, he went by Moses DeBrushka, which was his

00:43:56.180 real name during the, what was his name during the French Revolution? Can you look that up? Look up

00:44:01.400 Moses DeBrushka. And I thought that's the easiest thing to spell, but I'm going to need to know before

00:44:05.820 we, I need to figure this out because I want to know what his three names were so people can kind

00:44:09.260 of look into this individual, but yeah. And then he went in there and to Strasbourg, he starts

00:44:14.640 publicizing because they know that like, it's always been like a press thing. Like we have to

00:44:17.800 control the press and fomenting unrest. And so now we're learning that in this exact same period,

00:44:22.980 people are accused of doing stuff in China. I need to know what was going on. Like what,

00:44:30.100 if anything was going on? Here we are, Moses DeBrushka. And he tells us that he was a writer.

00:44:35.800 They're all writers, poets, and also a revolutionary. He was the first cousin of

00:44:40.420 Jacob Frank, like I said, who claimed to be the Jewish Messiah. I also heard that during that

00:44:45.300 White Lotus rebellion, that person who eventually led that rebellion proclaimed that he was a Messiah.

00:44:52.460 If I'm correct, this very little stuff that I can find on it. Again, this is the beginning of

00:44:56.760 research, but it tells us that he converted from Judaism to the Catholic faith and he took on the

00:45:01.460 name, Franz Thomas Schoenfeld, right? So he went by Franz Thomas Schoenfeld. He also in Vienna went

00:45:09.340 by Franz Thomas Elder von Schoenfeld. And then he went by Moses DeBrushka. And yeah, this guy,

00:45:17.800 Ephraim Joseph Hirschfeld, Hirschfeld was the last name. They just were, they were Freemasons at the end

00:45:24.160 of the day. They were the main activists of the Masonic Lodge. And they were active in Germany.

00:45:29.920 They were active in Austria between 1783 and 1790. And then obviously we know the French Revolution

00:45:36.200 happens at that time. So lots to, lots of process there. I need to know more about what were the

00:45:44.620 sexual perversions that they were accused of in this White Lotus sect, if anything. Maybe I'm wrong.

00:45:53.660 I don't know anything right now. That's the point. That's why we go to you guys, because we get to

00:45:57.060 just activate a bunch of investigators. Poor Elisa Palace staying up late right now watching 1.00

00:46:01.600 this. I think they really did believe that I was working with like Russian people, the Russian

00:46:08.400 government, as well as the far right politicians in various countries. And truly they, when we go

00:46:16.840 through this court process, they're going to realize it's just moms and dads that are concerned about

00:46:22.280 what's happening in the world right now, all over the world, that are sending information,

00:46:25.500 that are doing due diligence, that know something because they were sailors or they were captains or

00:46:30.240 they have access because they know how to research and archive center faster than I do. They don't know

00:46:35.260 how to respond to truth. They don't recognize it. They don't recognize genuine interest because

00:46:41.860 they've been so ingenuine their entire lives, right? When your entire life becomes a carefully woven lie,

00:46:48.200 you do feel attacked when you see something that is truth, that is rising organically. You don't even

00:46:54.380 understand something that can be grown organically because your entire life is inorganic. That's

00:47:00.340 exactly what is happening right now at the Elisa Palace. And so everybody, tons of themes that we've

00:47:06.100 covered today, but it's going to take all of us. So please, please, please email tips at

00:47:10.920 canisowens.com with whatever you can find. Again, making it clear to you guys, some of you guys are

00:47:15.300 sending me names of people that are in the experiment. He was very clear that he used

00:47:20.440 pseudonyms. So you're going to say Prisoner 2093, Tom Williams, that person has not actually ever been

00:47:27.000 identified. And as we now know, there were prisoners that were switching. So we are looking to find the

00:47:34.740 real names. If you were in this experiment, maybe John Mark, you'd like to speak. I don't know if you're

00:47:38.780 still alive. I'll look into that, all part of our research. We're exploring, as I said, at the top of

00:47:44.100 the show, every available lead, because now we need to find, we need to finally get to the truth of what

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00:49:58.400 by the way, for that donation. Candice, thank you for your commitment to speaking the truth. Your voice

00:50:01.900 reaches far beyond the U.S. and we are all ears from Sydney, Australia. May your voice continue to

00:50:07.220 shine light in dark places and may you always be protected in truth and love. Thank you. Hopefully,

00:50:11.360 I'll be seeing you soon as we await this decision from the Supreme Court. Governments are going after

00:50:15.820 me and I've been so confused about why because I really am a nice person and I'm not involved in

00:50:20.280 any conspiracies. No one is funding me to do anything but people that are out there that are

00:50:26.160 supporting us and I don't know. I have faith in the people. I really do. I'm like, we can do this.

00:50:31.900 I don't have the money but we will be able to, with you guys supporting me like this and people

00:50:37.580 buying and supporting my upcoming book and everything else, we'll be able to find it somewhere

00:50:42.140 because we can't keep letting them do this. We will crush you and ruin your life and we'll impoverish you

00:50:46.500 for speaking the truth because we don't want to. Somebody has to take a stand. Somebody absolutely has to 0.99

00:50:51.800 take a stand. Abdullah writes, and thank you, Abdullah. That's also a really kind donation.

00:50:56.900 Extradite Tom Alexandrovic to the USA. Yep, that is the Israeli that was arrested in Vegas

00:51:03.900 and yeah, Pam Bondi just couldn't get out there fast enough to condemn it like she did when that 0.99

00:51:10.200 Zionist student got lightly shoved on a college campus. That was the worst thing she's ever seen.

00:51:15.200 But this, uh, ends are tied. What can we say? Uh, the menagerie by Drea Lee. Thank you from,

00:51:23.360 I think, California. You are writing that SPE, oh, the Stanford Prison Experiment, the person who ran

00:51:29.220 it, Philip Zimbardo's follow-up slide show stated, quote, less good news is that Sarge, that's prisoner

00:51:35.980 2093, was later arrested for high technology equipment theft. I couldn't find any arrest record in

00:51:43.680 case someone else can. Okay, that's a good thing that you're introducing. Prisoner 2093 was later

00:51:48.560 arrested, according to Philip Zimbardo, for high technology equipment theft. Could it be like a

00:51:55.980 electromagnetic, 8,000 pound electromagnetic lawsuit? I don't even know what you do with 8,000

00:52:04.960 pounds of magnet. I'm kidding there. I know that will then just appear in a later lawsuit. Oh,

00:52:10.040 you accused her of being this person. No, I am just saying that that is interesting,

00:52:14.500 uh, that I don't, I literally don't know what you do with 8,000 pounds of magnet. Maybe somebody can

00:52:18.680 tell me. Agronaut, Argonaut writes, Trump's constant praise for Israel looks genuine. It 0.99

00:52:24.900 doesn't look like blackmail Israel equals God Bible, and he thinks God is saving him in Butler.

00:52:29.240 It was a divine sign to do as Israel demands. This is his atonement. Could not disagree with you more. 0.97

00:52:34.860 Um, obviously it's not genuine when you are gaslighting us about Jeffrey Epstein.

00:52:40.140 If it was genuine, he thought, just thought that it was a mission. He would have no issue

00:52:43.740 telling us about Jeffrey Epstein because there's no way he thinks that his mission,

00:52:48.800 his God-given mission is to protect a convicted pedophile. So I just, I do forcefully reject the

00:52:56.200 idea that this is just being motivated, uh, because he feels that it's his atonement in life.

00:53:02.480 He is fearful of something in the files. We can guess as to what that is. We don't really have

00:53:08.900 a clear idea of that, but it ain't God saving him, I don't think. Heartless writes, hey, hey,

00:53:16.420 Candace, Hollywood is making incest more palatable or romanticizing it also on the House of Dragon,

00:53:21.440 Game of Thrones, and A Simple Favor, amongst other. Why fictional books and movies, why do fictional

00:53:27.360 books and movies need an incest theme? They don't. But as we know, culture is how you,

00:53:34.920 as they've studied, is how you infect minds. Don't forget Netflix. Sigmund Freud, relative started

00:53:40.280 Netflix, right? They, this is what they do. They know the power of television. They are literally

00:53:45.820 telling us a vision, telling us it's okay. That's why that book, Hollywood Babylon is even significant.

00:53:51.600 It's why they turn people into stars and they get the stars to do things that seem outrageous

00:53:55.340 because they know that it will create a following as people will look at them and worship

00:53:59.780 the stars. Like we learned in Hollywood Babylon, the book, they quite literally were trying to turn

00:54:05.500 it into a religion. So you are being indoctrinated into a religion via cult, via culture. The question

00:54:12.540 is, what religion is it? What religion is it that wants men to be women and women to be men

00:54:17.960 and wants to make us glorify incest as a theme? What religion is that exactly? The closest thing I

00:54:25.640 can find to it would be Jacob Frank, the Frankists that were behind the French Revolution. That would 0.79

00:54:33.480 be the closest thing that I could find that mimics that. Apostasy, lying, propaganda, writing, publishing,

00:54:40.280 changing, changing your names like gypsies, infiltrating, and practicing incest as a right. 0.89

00:54:48.700 That was Kabbalistic. That's just the fact. And they don't like you talking about it. So 0.76

00:54:53.080 maybe we should stop talking about it or take a week break so we can research and come back with

00:54:58.840 absolute fire when we return with Becoming Brigitte season two. You guys ready your engines. I'm back in

00:55:07.300 touch with Xavier Poussard. This is going to get very interesting. Certainly not what I think

00:55:13.220 Emmanuel Macron thought was going to happen. Emmanuel Macron, I still do perceive you as a victim. I

00:55:17.940 really do. And I can't imagine what it is. I don't think you know anything but acting. I think when you

00:55:23.100 get to that stage, having acted, as we know, all through your life, beginning when Brigitte pursued

00:55:30.360 you, if somebody came in and said, cut, I think you might feel like you don't even know who you are.

00:55:39.480 Like, what do you mean? This is what I've always done. And so I am sympathetic to the 14-year-old boy

00:55:46.900 that was at that school, that was acting. And I can only imagine, like, I don't know. I don't even

00:55:55.880 know how you would ever be able to put the genie back into the bottle. So you are fighting me

00:55:59.380 because you need to accept that this reality is real, that everything that happened to you is okay.

00:56:07.220 Reading the Sigmund Freud book that I'm currently reading, The Assault on Truth,

00:56:10.000 that reading my book club really lets me know that victims can become the most ardent defenders

00:56:16.960 of their oppressors. That is the reality. I mean, the way that you defended and the Elizee Palace

00:56:23.300 tried to lie when we watched Brigitte Macron physically lay hands on you is stunning.

00:56:30.180 Your instinct was to protect the person that had hit you and to lie to the public,

00:56:36.720 to gaslight the public. You're angry at the public for knowing. It's fascinating. All of it is very

00:56:43.620 fascinating. And we're going to get to something. What that something is, I don't know. You guys,

00:56:47.680 while we are off, if you have been enjoying this and you want to invest in our series,

00:56:51.260 please head to CandiceOwens.com, sign up, buy a t-shirt, buy a hashtag free Emanuel t-shirt to

00:56:56.820 support this lawsuit because they got money, money, and we don't. That is just, those are just the

00:57:02.040 facts. It's never ending for them and they know that. And I am going to remain hopeful. Also,

00:57:06.700 if you can't, because sometimes people are going through not the best financial time, pray for us.

00:57:11.620 The prayers work. I believe that they have been keeping us protected and keeping us safe. And

00:57:15.580 like I have been praying for stuff, information to just land on our lap so that we can get to

00:57:21.280 the truth of this before we even ever arrive into the courtroom. And I think that we're one step

00:57:25.540 closer. Who is Jean-Marie Trogneau? Hopefully we'll have more information for you when the Becoming

00:57:31.580 Brigitte season two premieres in a little over a week. We'll see you then.

00:57:36.320 Bye.

Candace Owens - August 21, 2025

BREAKING NEWS! Jean “M” Trogneux FOUND In The United States In The 60’s. ｜ Candace Ep 232

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