BREAKING NEWS： Jeremy Boreing Out As CEO Of The Daily Wire ｜ Candace Ep 162
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Jeremy Boring is stepping down from his role as the co-CEO of The Daily Wire. What could possibly be the reason for this? Is it because he's a narcissist? Or is he just not a good enough CEO?
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What can I say other than it is a woman's intuition,
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which is funny because we ended yesterday's episode where I was saying,
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We get vibes, and last week I was looking at the CEO of The Daily Wire,
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Jeremy Boring's tweets, and something just felt off.
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So we did an entire episode, well, actually just the beginning of an episode,
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but we quite literally entitled it Just Asking Questions About The Daily Wire.
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And today, just four days later, news breaks that Jeremy Boring is stepping down.
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Let's get started, and welcome back to Candace.
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So shout out to anyone who's been fired before.
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But last year, on March 18th, I received news that I was no longer employed at The Daily Wire,
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And we're fast-forwarding now exactly one year later,
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because ironically, right after my exit was announced a few days later,
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then the entire Christ is King debacle took place online,
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courtesy of Andrew Klavan, who did this whole video about my exit,
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and accused me of all sorts of things that we don't need to relitigate,
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because I have moved on, and I am certain so has he.
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But it was a bit of a Lent surprise to be fired.
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It was a bit of a Lent surprise to have, like, the Christ is King thing being branded as something
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I guess my husband could fire me, but he can't fire me this time.
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But there has been a major announcement today, one year later,
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stepping down from his role as the co-CEO of The Daily Wire.
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Now, before we get into the internet speculation as to what the heck is happening,
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in case you are not in conservative political land,
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Jeremy Boring was the co-CEO of The Daily Wire.
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And he was what I would describe as a rare CEO in his decision to be front-facing.
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They give statements to the press when it's necessary.
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Jeremy Boring was the exact opposite of this, right?
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He likes to share his ideas, which, by the way, no shade.
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It makes sense when you understand his background.
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He also named the company after his drama club, Bent Key, as it's called.
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And he wears the key around his neck because it was like the key to his drama theater, I think.
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I believe it's the key to his theater that he worked at when he was younger.
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And he speaks often about how he got involved with The Daily Wire.
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He was formerly a guy who was trying to make it in Hollywood as an actor.
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And then suddenly he becomes the co-CEO of The Daily Wire.
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And I would say it is a fair assessment that he brought a lot of those Hollywood aspects to him, with him, to the world of politics and media.
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For better or worse, it is not up for me to judge.
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But I want to be clear that when I say that he was a front-facing CEO, I mean he was front and center-facing.
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And he also felt the need to put his name on the products that were coming out of The Daily Wire.
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Now, to be clear, what was fascinating about this is the backstory.
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You would have thought it would have been named Michael's Razors because the backstory is Michael Knowles, who is one of the big talent at The Daily Wire, kind of got unceremoniously dropped by Harry's Razors.
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Because he came on my show when I was at PragerU, and we spoke about the trans issue, and essentially they canceled Michael Knowles and said, we're no longer going to read ads with you.
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And rather than saying, okay, we're going to have Michael Knowles launch Michael's Razors, in response to this, Jeremy said, we're going to launch a razor company, and it's going to be called Jeremy's Razors.
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When I was at The Daily Wire, there was also Jeremy's Chocolates.
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And this one, I always felt was quite ironic because he was going after Hershey's.
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And the reason that they were going after Hershey's was because on International Women's Day, Hershey's decided to promote a transgendered woman.
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So a biological male became the face of International Women's Day.
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Which I was like, okay, but then aren't you doing the same thing?
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The point is, is that when there was kind of a moment that was building culturally, Jeremy would launch a product, and typically his name went on it.
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And that's what I mean when I say that he was sort of front and center facing.
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Recently, he was just sort of doing and saying a lot that felt off.
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And in the public sphere, everyone was commenting on this, just kind of going, okay, I get that you offer a lot of commentary, but something feels in this environment emotionally off.
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And when I say emotionally off, I would think the fairest way to summarize it would be to say that he was being unnecessarily confrontational with everyone.
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Like, it just felt like, does everything need to be a confrontation?
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And Brett Cooper, obviously, the backstory of that, she was, without a question, the breakout star of The Daily Wire.
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Gen Z did something different with the comment section.
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It was considered unceremonious because the public wasn't expecting it.
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This was back in December of last year, and it was heavily rumored at that time amongst YouTubers and Internet sleuths that Jeremy then handpicked her best friend and maid of honor.
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He had handpicked this young woman to replace Brett.
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And the rumors and innuendo online was because she just kind of wanted to get back at Brett.
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Neither Jeremy nor Brett confirmed that rumor at all.
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But what we do know is that Brett Cooper and Reagan did, in fact, stop being friends after this.
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And what we do know is that Reagan did then take over her position.
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And what we do know is that Reagan's cousin came out and did a video and, at the very least, confirmed the rumors that Reagan was supposed to have left the Daily Wire with Brett and then did a 180 and decided to stay because of the money that they offered her, which she said was like, you know, a consistent stream of income.
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And she felt that that was defensive territory.
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We obviously, again, cannot confirm that Jeremy handpicked her to get back at Brett.
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But now, Reagan taking over the comment section from an objective numerical standard clearly did not go over well with the public.
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Now, whatever reason you want to read into that, maybe because they felt that Brett was being backstabbed or that Jeremy did something wrong.
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The show itself is not doing what Brett's show was doing.
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Brett's show was averaging from half a million to a million views per a video.
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This is just a screenshot that we took one hour ago.
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OK, so you can see that we are averaging about 20,000 views in 24 hour span or actually less than that.
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And to some people that like, you know, 20,000 in 24 hours actually is a lot.
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Jeremy did something that I think any person in a boardroom would would describe as ill advisable,
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which is when you launch something and it doesn't do what it's supposed to do, you just pivot.
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You don't blame the audience of The Daily Wire for not consuming the content.
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And this, again, was something that the public flag does.
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What Reagan hasn't done is taking acting classes to be more like Brett Cooper.
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And it's hurt my feelings a little bit that Brett hasn't done more to defend her friend
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It was her idea, her stated desire to leave the show and to leave the company.
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She had personally recommended Reagan to me before she told me she wanted to leave the
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She had personally recommended Reagan to me and told me that if she ever did leave the
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show, Reagan would be a great person to consider to host it.
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And that at any rate, I should give something to Reagan because she should be on screen talent.
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And I know that most of these attacks on Reagan are completely unfair.
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They're either helping to craft or buying into a narrative which has been crafted by people
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who want the Daily Wire to fail and want Reagan to fail in the role.
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And both will be disappointed because Reagan will not fail in this role.
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We continue to grow and we continue to succeed.
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Well, it's OK sometimes when something goes out and it's just not the response that you
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And it was then rumored that the Daily Wire was looking to sell or rather, I shouldn't say
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it was rumored, they were not closed off from a sale.
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And I can show you, Axios reported, quote, between the lines, asked about a deal with
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Boring said the company isn't actively looking for a buyer, but we're not closed off to an
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It's easy to imagine a strategic partnership with Fox or someone like Fox that could be
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I think that we compliment Fox and don't compete with Fox, he added, noting Daily Wire's audience
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So it seemed like, I don't know, how would you read that statement?
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I read that as, hey, we're kind of looking for someone to maybe show some interest in
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That's exactly what he's explicitly stating, which it seemed to me to be unusual because
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they had been kind of, or at least while I was the Daily Wire, painting a vision into
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And now it's kind of like, oh, maybe we will partner with Fox and, you know, we're
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And what I'm going to show you is literally just the last two weeks of Jeremy's tweets.
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It was just a lot of emotion coming from Jeremy Boring towards people that I would say,
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generally speaking, don't have a lot of issues with others.
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Like these are not people that you expect are going to have fights picked with them.
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They're not confrontational people, so to speak.
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I mean, and people are all texting and rumbling and saying, like, what's going on?
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I mean, crafting a message about Theo Vaughn and Joe Rogan, Jason Whitlock, Ian Carroll.
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And primarily it was conversations that had ideas that he did not agree with.
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And his reaction to those conversations didn't seem even with the conversations that were
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You know, me going on Theo Vaughn, Ian Carroll going on Joe Rogan.
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And then this text message, this tweet, rather, that he had about it, describing it as the
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worst day for Jews that he's ever experienced in his lifetime.
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Yesterday was a terrible day for American Jews.
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OK, the embrace by so many prominent voices of demented, conspiratorial, anti-Jewish voices
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is one of the saddest, most alarming events in my lifetime.
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This way lies madness and worse than madness that I think if you are a person and you watched
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the conversation between Ian Carroll and Joe Rogan and me and Theo Vaughn, you didn't
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get that like that wasn't your you didn't do that.
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You didn't put your head down and say in my life, pull it back up.
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That's the most alarming event in your lifetime.
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Look, I'm only thirty five. I've had more alarming events in my lifetime.
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And I'm talking like, you know, it was alarming to me when I was in kindergarten and we did
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our first fire drill. That felt like more of an alarming event than what I watched transpire
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They seem to be having tons of conversation about things that were fun.
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They were thinking, challenging each other, pushing back and forth.
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And actually, Ian Carroll explicitly said, like, this is not about Jews.
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And I want to make that very clear, like we're talking about the state of Israel.
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Theo Vaughn told me that he gets milk jugs from McDonald's.
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He's the only person in the world that gets milk jugs, milk jugs from McDonald's.
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So at a certain point, you start to wonder, OK, is this a good you're the front facing CEO?
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Again, you've branded yourself as that and you've said a thousand times, I want to be the front
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facing CEO. Well, that means that every tweet that you issue is going to next necessarily
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That's going to be felt by the Daily Wire as a business because you're saying I am the face
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of this company, right? I am literally the face that you can buy shaving cream for from.
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Objectively, it was perceived as strange from the public, I should say.
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And then he got into a fight with Jason Whitlock, who's like he just talks about sports all the time.
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And they announced that they were interested in having and by they I mean Ben Shapiro announced
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that he was launching a petition for Derek Chauvin to be pardoned by President Trump.
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And it was met with a flurry of reaction. Some people said this is absolutely not the right time.
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Most people said it's not the right time for this. It would actually hurt Trump to do this.
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And then other people who were more measured and just said, like, why would he want to go back to
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Minnesota prison if he gets pardoned federally? He still has a state.
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And Jason Whitlock was one of these people who said that this just felt this just feels random.
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Again, he comments on sports. I would say 98 percent of what he comments on is sports.
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So he responded to Ben's petition, which, by the way, I agree with Ben that Derek Chauvin was wrongly
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convicted. Ben knows I agree with him on that. We've spoken about that on backstage together.
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I also think it's ill-advised because of the state crime. But I, you know, whatever.
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Open to a debate. Jason Whitlock writes, what's going on here? This seems out of nowhere from
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the Daily Wire, given the fact that it's separated from Candace Owens. Now, his reason for saying that
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is simply because I did the documentary on George Floyd. But, you know, George, I don't own George
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Floyd or own the documentary. And then he goes on and he says, if Trump took this on right now,
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it would sabotage and overshadow other agendas. I believe Chauvin was wrongly convicted. But
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the timing of this campaign seems out of place. OK, that's fair critique. You could just respond
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evenly to this. Here is what Jeremy shot back. He wrote back, if Ben Shapiro cured cancer,
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Jason Whitlock would find something in it to bitch about. OK, wow. OK, maybe not a fan of Jason
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Whitlock's sports commentary. Maybe Jason Whitlock is getting it wrong on sports commentary.
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Jason writes back and he says, seems like an overreaction. Seems like something a LeBron
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fan would say about me or Stephen A. Smith. Someone refresh my memory. How often do I discuss
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Shapiro? This seems really overcooked. I'm asking legit questions and Jeremy is lobbing personal
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attacks. Weird. I'm not allowed to question. And then Jeremy responds to this and he says,
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you're allowed to do whatever you want, which typically involves being a dick towards us any chance
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you get. And hashtag just asking questions is a cowardly grift. You want to make an accusation,
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be a man and make it. Like he's like, OK, this is like, fight me, fight me outside. Let's fight
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right now. You're like, whoa, I feel like this is something else could be going on because this can't
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be about me saying this is not the best timing with Trump. And it just felt very aggressive.
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It was perceived as aggressive. Jason Whitlock then went on his show and said, I don't know
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what this is. This is a total overreaction to what I've said. And again, this was being debated
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in public. Even Matt Walsh said, here's what I think. I respond to him and I said, I don't think
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this is a good idea because of his state. Like he would have to go back to Minnesota and be in a tiny
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cell, which his mother hated. I don't know why that couldn't be the level of respect that was being
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given back to Jason Whitlock. Again, someone who majority just comments on sports and then
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wades in politically on a variety of topics. So we were seeing this and then he got into it
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and started saying that Jason Whitlock, who has been someone who has condemned Andrew Tate over and
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over and over and over again, started saying that that he backs Andrew Tate. And that is just
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objectively not true. It's objectively not true to say that about Jason Whitlock. So it was a lot.
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And then on top of that, by the way, I'm showing you this is just in the last like 10 days. This
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is like a 10 day purview of Jeremy's tweets. He then wades into the Crisis King non-debacle,
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non-debacle because no one was talking about Crisis King this year. And then people woke up one day and
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chose violence. I don't know. There's something about Lent. There is something tis the season,
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something about Christ and people just get going, you know. And Jeremy just waited in on this in a long,
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weighed in on this, pardon me, in a long tweet. He wrote this. I'm not going to read the whole
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thing, honestly, but you get the point. There's no effort on the American right to prevent Christians
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from declaring the truth that Christ is King. There is an important effort to encourage Christians
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to be discerning about the motives of some malefactors who would exploit the language of
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faith in order to foster evil. There is a reason Jesus Christ, the King says that not everyone who
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calls him Lord will be saved. There is a reason an entire commandment warns against carrying his
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name in vain. Anyone who says Christ is King because they believe Jesus, you know, it's just a
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lot. And again, I would maybe just stay out of it. You know, I would just maybe stay out of it if it
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was me. And I am not the CEO of my company, my husband is, but he just kind of stays out of things
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and doesn't tweet. And I think there's a reason for that because everyone will begin to see your
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company through that lens, through the lens of your ideas. And then there was a lot of tweets
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aimed at Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson is extremely well-liked. A lot of tweets insinuating that Tucker
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Carlson is platforming people who are anti-Semitic. Tucker Carlson this, Tucker Carlson that. And then
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he tweeted this in the last 48 hours. I predicted in January of 2024 that Tucker would conclude that
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America was the bad guy in World War II. I'm not a prophet. It's just been clear for a long time
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where this was going. And actually, if you watch the clip, Tucker says no such thing. And so it just
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becomes a question of whether or not someone has read the book, How to Win Friends and Influence People,
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because I don't think that this was influencing people in a way that made them go, I want to sign up
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for The Daily Wire right now. You know, that's the question. Like, I like I, this is great. This feels
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great. I'm going to go sign up for The Daily Wire right now. And so we were all kind of going,
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we don't know what's going on, but something is clearly going on because it's just a lot to happen
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in a very short amount of time. And then today in Axios, it was reported exclusive Daily Wire co-CEO
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Jeremy Boring to step down. Language here says Jeremy Boring, co-founder of A Daily Wire, is stepping
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down from his role as co-CEO to focus on creative projects for the company. He told
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staff in a memo obtained by Axios on Tuesday. Caleb Robinson, the company's founding CEO,
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will become the company's full-time CEO effective immediately. Robinson and Boring have been co-CEOs
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since 2019. In a note to staff, Boring said that he will remain with the company in an advisory role.
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He will continue to host Daily Wire backstage, the company's monthly show featuring Ben Shapiro,
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Matt Walsh, Michael Knows, and Andrew Klavan. He will focus full-time on creative projects,
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including the completion of Daily Wire's TV series, The Pendragon Cycle, in which he serves
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as director and executive producer. Okay. Now, don't know how everybody else feels about that
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announcement. A couple of things that immediately jumped out to me about the statement is that it
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does feel like you're trying to smooth things over without giving people very many facts. Okay.
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It is completely unusual for a CEO of a company to step down. And there have been no reason for that
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step down. Least of all, if it's going to be because you're going to be involved more creatively,
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then what's your new title? Like, that's what I was looking for in the announcement. Like,
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if this was like a sincere need him to focus on creative projects I was waiting for,
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he will now assume the role of our chief creative director. That is a role of our creative director,
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of the president of the creative team. There's none of that. It just says he's going to advise.
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And what is he advising on? Well, they say like the Pendragon Cycle. Well, to be clear,
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the Pendragon Cycle is a series that was shot as a passion of Jeremy's. It was, I think,
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he announced that it was the book that held the most meaning to him because of one thing or another,
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I can't remember. And so they jumped into this project, but that movie was supposed to be released
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last year. So that movie part in that series is already a year late from being released,
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which would make me think that that release is imminent. So to say that he's going to work
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on something that should have been done a year ago, and he's going to do that in an advisory capacity
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does not actually sound to me, at least. And we're obviously awaiting more information. And I'll say
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this to the team right now. If more is coming out, please let me know. Obviously, we are live here.
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That doesn't sound like he is being rotated within the company. That sounds like this is a nice landing
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pad for us to say, like, you know, he's going to be involved creatively as an advisor. What's his
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title? What is his title? You go from CEO to what? Chief what? President of what? Advisor? Seems vague,
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right? And why isn't that statement accompanied by a statement from the new CEO? Like, that's an
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Axios. And it makes me wonder, like, did Jeremy, does Jeremy have a PR team that worked on getting
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that place placed? And what's interesting is I was awaiting kind of Ben's statement. These two are
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best friends, refreshing to see what Ben had to say about this on his X feed. He has said nothing across
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his social media channels. That strikes me as odd. That's a very loud silence. And rather,
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he went very corporate. He gave a statement, which is exactly the sort of a statement that I would have
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had expected him to give to the Daily Wire on the Daily Wire website. This is where you can actually
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find a statement from Ben Shapiro and Caleb Robinson. Now, of course, Ben Shapiro is not becoming the CEO,
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but he is very much considered the face of the Daily Wire. And so it would have been incumbent upon
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him to say something. And he handled that in an extremely, like an extraordinarily professional
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manner. That's what I want to point out. This is a corporate proper announcement, which he should do.
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I want to be clear. This is exactly what Ben should do. And this is the way it should happen. And these
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things shouldn't happen on Twitter. But again, for your best friend and many times that Jeremy has said
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I'm his only friend, it feels like there's something more than that than that's meeting the eye,
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right? So here is a statement from Ben Shapiro. Again, this is can be found on the Daily Wire website.
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Jeremy's hard work and brilliant leadership have been indispensable to the growth of this company
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from an idea to the largest conservative digital media company in the country, said Shapiro.
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Jeremy is a tremendous talent, and we're thrilled to get even more of his creative focus in the
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business as we head into the next phase of expansion. We can't wait to see what he does next.
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Whoa, that's quite the last sentence there. We can't wait to see what he does next. Pull it back
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up again. I just want to show what we're not hearing, right? He's a tremendous talent. We're
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thrilled to get even more of his creative focus in the business. In what capacity? As we head into the
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next phase of expansion, what has he become now that he is not the CEO? And then you say we can't
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wait to see what he does next. Again, this feels like we're moving on. That's what it feels like to me,
00:25:43.480
and I could be wrong. And of course, we will update this if suddenly they're like, he is going to be
00:25:48.160
the chief, but you get a title or you don't. And I'm not hearing a title here. We also have a
00:25:52.940
statement from Caleb Robinson, which is to be expected because the new CEO, and he is the old,
00:25:58.840
he's the co-CEO, but now he is absorbing all the power as the executive here. And he has given this
00:26:03.700
statement. He says we couldn't be more excited for this next phase of the Daily Wire's growth
00:26:09.820
and for Jeremy as he pursues the completion of Pendragon, okay, which should have been completed
00:26:16.940
a year ago, or I guess they missed the deadline, and then moves on to work with us on further
00:26:22.100
important creative endeavors that we have in the works, said Robinson. Okay, in what capacity?
00:26:30.340
Jeremy's creative contributions over the last decade have helped shape the face of podcasting
00:26:35.520
in digital media with Pendragon on the horizon, the best is yet to come. Now, neither of them
00:26:39.620
are saying that he's going to be hosting backstage. That's interesting. That just came from Axios and
00:26:44.980
came from Jeremy. They're kind of saying he's working on Pendragon. That's got to be near
00:26:49.460
completion. Again, like I said, and then we're getting nothing. He's going to kind of help with
00:26:54.000
creative stuff as, and if you put together a Jeremy statement, as an advisor. So am I reading
00:26:59.640
this wrong, or does this feel like, you know, you know, we don't know, no, but we know, ladies.
00:27:09.520
We don't know, no, but we know. And soon we're going to know, no, because I think what's going
00:27:14.160
to happen now is that more stuff is going to come out about the Daily Wire. So now I was turning to
00:27:20.380
some reactions. Obviously, we're doing the show live. We have, first and foremost, obviously,
00:27:25.220
everyone was looking to see what Brett Cooper would say. Largely felt like she remained silent
00:27:29.720
on her exit, maybe because she had to remain silent on her exit. We don't know. But she
00:27:34.900
tweeted this in response to the news, a gif of Jimmy Fallon kind of looking like he wants to burst out
00:27:41.400
laughing and then just sort of nodding. And I think that probably says it all. She followed that up
00:27:49.040
with this, which says a lot. She says, genuinely excited to see where Ben and Caleb take the
00:27:54.840
company next. So she, if we're reading that correctly, is thinking that this was a good move
00:28:01.440
for the company. We have not yet had a tweet. And you guys, can you live check from Matt Walsh or
00:28:07.300
Michael Knowles? They have not said anything about the news. Jason Whitlock has come out and he has
00:28:13.860
said this. As a joke, my understanding is Jeremy will focus full time on smearing me, Tucker Carlson,
00:28:20.620
and anyone else who disagrees with the God King. God King, by the way, is what Jeremy calls himself.
00:28:26.160
He calls himself the lowercase God King. So, yeah, it seems like he will not be missed by Jason
00:28:33.200
Whitlock. Then we have people who are starting to put pieces together. Now, these are swirling rumors
00:28:37.880
that are coming from various reporters and people that are like me, just trying to read what's
00:28:43.060
possibly going on. First up, let's go to the quartering, who has been covering a lot about
00:28:48.540
Brett's exit. I think his name is also Jeremy, by the way. And here is his video and his perception
00:28:56.000
of what's happening. Usually when CEOs step down, it's not by choice. I'm just going to be very clear
00:29:03.780
about that. I'm not saying there's some sort of huge scandal going on, but it does seem like the
00:29:08.980
Daily Wire has been treading water for a while. It seems like perhaps they spread themselves
00:29:12.960
too thin with, you know, Benke and everything else. And also it's possible that, you know,
00:29:21.780
they're looking into what exactly the future is with entertainment. I don't know if Jeremy
00:29:31.400
Boring was directly behind or, you know, the cause of people like Brett Cooper leaving,
00:29:38.320
but let's not forget, get a pretty public feud with Brett Cooper saying that she hasn't defended
00:29:44.040
other people on the show. You know, the Daily Wire has lost, uh, probably 50% of their shows
00:29:52.420
and 60% of their viewership. Uh, Matt Walsh is still very popular. Um, Ben Shapiro is less popular
00:29:58.560
now, but still obviously a huge draw. Candace was a rising star. They lost her. And Brett Cooper
00:30:04.300
was probably their biggest rising star and they lost her. And both of those happened in the last,
00:30:10.120
you know, month or so. Uh, when you look at Twitter's reaction, it's, they don't seem all
00:30:16.240
that surprised. Jeremy Boring has resigned as CEO of the Daily Wire. The company's rapidly declined
00:30:22.840
since losing Candace Owens or Brett Cooper. Maybe new leadership will stop censoring the host. So if
00:30:27.500
they, if they disagree with Ben Shapiro, I mean, it's possible. Um, but a guy that calls himself
00:30:34.240
God King probably does not step down as CEO willingly. And in terms of rumors and innuendo,
00:30:45.500
Ian Carroll, who obviously was on the receiving end of some, um, I guess you'd call it strong words
00:30:52.500
from Jeremy Boring has put together a video. Now he has had a very interesting leg into the Daily
00:30:58.200
Wire. I found out a lot of stuff about my own firing that I didn't know because of Ian Carroll.
00:31:04.280
That was the kind of the first time that I had really heard about him. And he had insight from
00:31:09.780
employees about things and that I didn't know that were happening behind the scenes. And here's
00:31:15.380
what he is reporting is happening at the Daily Wire. Take a listen.
00:31:18.920
The Daily Wire is going bankrupt, allegedly. And Jeremy Boring is officially out as CEO.
00:31:25.400
That's right. The self-proclaimed God King of the Daily Wire is at the heart of so many scandals.
00:31:32.240
And yes, he is self-described as the God King. And the email just went out today internally that
00:31:36.600
he is stepping down and now Axios is covering the story. It has not yet broken as far as I'm aware
00:31:41.940
that private equity is moving in and looking to buy up the Daily Wire. I heard rumor mill that Silver
00:31:48.340
Lake Capital is looking to buy them up. And yo Silver Lake, you guys might want to watch this
00:31:52.740
video before you think too hard about it. Because there's a lot that is not in the public square
00:31:57.140
right now. We're about to get into stuff like canceled credit cards, lying to the press,
00:32:01.020
trying to trick Tim Pool. As far as I can tell from my sources, even people inside of the Daily Wire only
00:32:06.560
know part of the story and they're all kind of getting played against each other. It's a whole mess.
00:32:10.640
And the most important part of this mess is that the Daily Wire has a long history of treating their
00:32:14.000
employees like s***. And so I've had numerous sources inside the Daily Wire for quite some time
00:32:19.640
because everyone hates them, even their own people. They're portraying it as though Jeremy
00:32:24.440
Boring is willingly stepping back to work on creative projects like the Pendragon cycle and
00:32:29.360
that he'll remain with the company in advisory role. My sources are telling me that the Pendragon
00:32:33.160
cycle is being moved off site and out of the Daily Wire's physical purview because they're not letting
00:32:37.980
Jeremy Boring back in the building right now apparently. Jeremy Boring was 100% allegedly forced out,
00:32:43.520
not a willing leave. Like even Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boring, it sounds like there's a huge rift
00:32:48.040
between them from what I'm hearing. There's even rumors that I can't confirm quite yet that Ben
00:32:52.600
Shapiro hired his own PR person like months ago. And you remember when Tim Pool was like kind of like
00:32:58.000
rearranging his business and all sorts of weird stuff was happening there? I don't even know if Tim
00:33:02.560
knows this yet directly, but it sounds like the Daily Wire was trying to manipulate him into buying the
00:33:07.460
Daily Wire and trying to present it as super profitable. The rumors I'm hearing is that Jeremy Boring
00:33:12.160
thought Tim Pool would be dumb enough to fall for and he was the exact kind of guy they could sell
00:33:16.820
to. I heard that they allegedly offered him an all stock deal, which would be worth because their
00:33:23.220
stock is worthless because they're bankrupt, allegedly. I don't know anything about that,
00:33:30.620
any of this stuff, because obviously I haven't been at the Daily Wire for a year. And so I would
00:33:34.180
not know any circumstances regarding the financials or whether or not they offered Tim Pool a deal.
00:33:39.500
But it's interesting coming from him because there have been some things that Ian Carroll
00:33:42.880
has said that have ended up being true. So this is this is a part of the chatter that's happening
00:33:46.940
again. Now, what can I say in terms of my own personal opinion about this?
00:33:57.240
I would definitely agree that it's tremendous news. I would agree with Ben and Caleb that it is
00:34:04.840
tremendous news. I think that Ben and Caleb have made the right decision to and if it was their
00:34:13.440
decision to transition him to the creative side. I think that it has been a part of Jeremy wanting
00:34:22.680
to be a creative that has lived with him from the time that he was very young. And it will be
00:34:27.560
nice to see him pursue what he has always wanted. And I wish him the absolute best. I hope he,
00:34:37.660
you know, gets the spotlight that I think he craves. Maybe he goes back to Hollywood. Who knows what he
00:34:43.160
does next? But I and hopefully we're all reading this correctly. Maybe he'll add more. Maybe we'll see
00:34:48.860
him on backstage. Just as a quick update, there still has not been any commentary from Michael or Matt
00:34:54.760
Knowles. You know, my estimation is I've been in this for a very long time and I have never I can
00:35:01.740
say Jeremy is unlike any CEO that I have ever worked with, have ever worked for. He is a total anomaly.
00:35:11.400
And I think that for the Daily Wire, this sounds like they're all happy about the decision.
00:35:19.540
And so I think it's OK for us to also say that we are very happy for the Daily Wire in
00:35:26.500
this decision. I suspect much more will come out in the months now that kind of the figurative
00:35:33.260
dam has broken. And yeah, I guess we'll all just stay tuned and stay tuned. And I certainly want to
00:35:38.900
be clear that I don't wish any ill will on the Daily Wire. I have friends that work there. There are
00:35:42.480
tremendous employees that work there. I said that from the very beginning. Love Matt. Love Michael.
00:35:46.940
Me and Ben obviously have a ton of disagreements. But in terms of my working capacity with him,
00:35:52.960
there's not a bad story that I could share, mostly because he lives in Florida and he's never said or
00:35:59.460
done anything rude to me in my face. So I just I think this is a good thing for the company is what
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I cannot wait to get into your comments about all of this and to hear what people have to say.
00:38:07.760
Yeah, I am very interested in that. First, I just wanted to say I saw this hilarious poll,
00:38:14.000
a question that was being asked. She's great. House and Habit is what she goes by on Instagram.
00:38:19.060
Her real name is Jessica Reed Krause, and she kind of just will ask people questions about things. And she
00:38:24.440
asked over the weekend whether or not it was weird that Elon Musk's kid, his little ex,
00:38:30.780
was with Trump. And this was the headline in the mirror. It said, Trump's seen on grandpa duties
00:38:38.440
with Musk's son, ex, as he helps toddler climb the steps of Marine One. And these photos were going
00:38:44.840
viral of him walking, Trump walking with Elon Musk's four-year-old son, who, by the way, is adorable.
00:38:50.140
That kid is really freaking cute. I love his long coat. Kids are adorable always. And he just looks
00:38:55.900
to be—he actually is doing the exact same jump that Elon did. I've seen Elon do that exact jump.
00:39:01.620
But it's interesting because he's the president of the United States, and we are seeing him
00:39:05.060
with the child as if it is his grandchild. And people are like, it's just weird.
00:39:09.720
And this is one of those moments where I'm just like, can we all just stop being so partisan that
00:39:14.980
we can't just agree on certain—yes, of course, it's weird. Yes, of course, it's weird. It is
00:39:21.240
weird how much Elon Musk is around. The kid is adorable, but let's put the shoe on the other
00:39:26.140
foot, okay? Let's put the shoe on the other foot and imagine that Joe Biden was constantly with
00:39:31.100
Mark Zuckerberg, always with Mark Zuckerberg. And then him and Mark Zuckerberg's son were just
00:39:37.400
like walking together by themselves, getting onto a plane, and Joe Biden was picking up Mark
00:39:43.280
Zuckerberg's son. Every conservative under the sun would be like, this is weird. What's going on?
00:39:47.200
What is going on? It's weird. It is getting weird out there. And it's okay. You don't like dishonor
00:39:53.440
Trump when you say stuff that's objectively true. It just makes yourself like more credible.
00:39:58.400
Because I want to be able to, when the Dems inevitably get power again, because that's how it swings,
00:40:04.060
Republican Dems, I want to be able to make fun of stuff. I want to be able to say,
00:40:07.400
hey, this is weird. And I'm consistent on this, that like, it's just getting a little weird.
00:40:12.580
And so when I saw that, I was just laughing and going, guys, it's fine. People are so tribal
00:40:16.880
sometimes. You just can't acknowledge that like, no, it would not be, we would not be chill if this
00:40:22.520
was Mark Zuckerberg and Biden, nor should we. It's strange. Anyways, Elon Musk loved it. He tweeted
00:40:29.200
the picture saying, that's a happy picture. And his son is adorable, by the way. His son is absolutely
00:40:34.400
adorable. I wish he had a longer name. I feel weird calling him X, a little X, like a rapper,
00:40:40.080
maybe a little Xavier. He's sweet, sweet boy. Okay. Also wanted to tell you this. This is really
00:40:45.800
interesting to me. As we speak about Hollywood and kind of like the fall of Hollywood and the
00:40:50.160
awakening that I think a lot of us are having in, you know, figures or people that you put a lot of
00:40:54.680
emphasis on and you want to believe in the character of who they are, and then you kind of find out who they
00:40:58.520
are behind the scenes does not add up to that at all. That's kind of been the lesson for me,
00:41:03.040
especially over this last year, whether it's in politics or whether it's in Hollywood and it's
00:41:07.260
us covering the Justin Baldoni saga and a lot of Taylor Swift fans are asking a lot of questions.
00:41:12.580
Look at this headline. This is tremendously sad. Okay. So Taylor Swift is having like a very bad
00:41:17.780
godmother year. And you can say that because obviously she's godmother to all of Blake Lively's
00:41:22.400
children. It turns out that Blake Lively is a raging narcissist, as is her husband,
00:41:26.460
and they're quite mean to people. Well, Taylor Swift has another godson named Leo,
00:41:31.360
sweet boy, whose mother is the famous actress, Jamie King. And we have known that her and Taylor
00:41:40.400
Swift have been friends forever. This is a part of her girl gang that everyone kind of craved.
00:41:44.900
Oh, I wish I had a friend just like Taylor Swift. It must be so amazing. And then we learned that she
00:41:50.180
had divorced her husband. And in this very unusual thing, it's announced that the father has
00:41:56.020
received custody of the child, the ex-husband, Kyle Newman. The courts do not do this lightly.
00:42:01.800
I want to be clear. There are plenty of women who should have their children taken away and given
00:42:06.200
to the father. But the courts are so favorable to women that it's like virtually impossible for
00:42:11.240
this to happen unless the mother is like a raging drug addict. And it turns out, and this is again,
00:42:17.600
is very sad. So this is not to mock Jamie King. This is something that, like I say, when it comes to
00:42:21.980
addiction, these sorts of issues should be something that brings the nation together. I don't know a
00:42:25.660
single family that has not been touched by addiction, my family included. Okay. Like I,
00:42:30.260
for me to be like, oh, people just don't do drugs. Don't abstain. I would be so high and mighty on my
00:42:35.260
horse. It would be ridiculous. But it is super sad when I read the story and that her ex-husband has
00:42:41.000
explicitly come out and said, like, she does not care. She is a drug addict and she is an alcoholic
00:42:46.000
and she's been one since forever. And the judge is now ruling in his favor. What I didn't know was
00:42:51.300
that her son was born with a heart defect because, according to her husband, she was abusing drugs
00:42:56.060
while she was pregnant. And so the reason why I wanted to bring this up, again, is not, I genuinely
00:43:00.300
hope Jamie King gets all the help that she gets. Addiction is, if you have never known someone with
00:43:04.960
addiction, it is, it's a demonic possession. It's the only way you can describe it is as a true
00:43:09.320
demonic possession. And there, to me, in a circumstance like that, you do need God. You need God. You need
00:43:15.980
a priest. I don't, I think that's the only way that you can get through it. And I hope that,
00:43:20.420
I wish that for Jamie King. But I bring this up because I just so remember our brains being seared
00:43:26.040
with all of that imagery of, like, girl power with, like, Taylor Swift and Blake Lively. And now we know
00:43:32.100
who Blake Lively is and Cara Delevingne, who, congratulations to her, she has gotten sober.
00:43:37.020
But then we learned that she was also in the midst of, like, battling a drug addiction. And now Jamie,
00:43:41.640
who we now know with all those pictures, oh, I'm the godmother, all of this stuff,
00:43:44.860
that she's been battling this addiction the entire time. And so everything in Hollywood is
00:43:49.480
just not what it seems, you know? And I think so often we look into their lives and we imagine,
00:43:55.600
oh, what would it be like for me to have 10 best friends marching in bad, all these cool,
00:44:00.520
amazing people. I want to be like them. No, you don't. You know, look around you. Your life is
00:44:04.460
probably pretty great and you don't even recognize it because what Hollywood is really good at is
00:44:09.320
making everything glitter only for you to get close and recognize that it is not gold. And it can't be
00:44:16.160
gold because a lot of it is serving the interests that are satanic, you know, wanting stuff, wanting
00:44:21.980
things, wanting money, and not actually pursuing the things that make you wholesome. Like, you actually,
00:44:28.940
what you probably have is something that you should value and be proud of. And what you think you want
00:44:34.580
to attain is not real. I just wanted to say that. That's the only point in me having brought up this
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that it's anti-Semitic, perhaps a more bold declaration tethered to the tenets of Christianity.
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Christ lives. And ask Dave Smith to moderate your debate. I would love to have a debate
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on the topic of Crisis King. Danielle writes, thankful for you. Thank you, Danielle.
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Helda Chavez writes, I just bought more Candace merch. One of those is the autographed Standis Cup.
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Just realized I should have bought a backup one that I could actually use. Thank you so much for
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supporting the show and supporting our independence. Penny writes, will your book be available for
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International under pre-order? Not under pre-order. Just when it actually goes live in June.
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And do you have an update for your tour in Australia? The update is that we are going to
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the highest court in the land. We're going to the Australian Supreme Court. And I don't have a date
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for that, but the tour will be bumped thereafter. So assuming that we win and I'm allowed into Australia
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and I shouldn't make that assumption because it's a country and I don't know what they think about
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speech. But I remain hopeful. If you want to follow that case, by the way, it's Candace Owens
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versus Candace Owens Farmer versus the Commonwealth of Australia. And Tony Burke, the home minister,
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I think is the official name of that suit. This user writes, why doesn't Candace use facial
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recognition software on the 18-year-old Jean-Michel picture and Brigitte? They used it on other photos,
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but not on this one. Very strange. We mentioned why, because you can't do side-by-side of two
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photos that have glasses. The facial recognition software doesn't allow you to do that. Or they
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tell you that it's not advised that you do it because glasses can change your nose shape and
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your forehead and stuff. So that's why. It's two photos side-by-side of both people wearing glasses
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that is not permitted. That was my understanding from Xavier. And we spoke about that.
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This next person writes, sorry to even bring this up. You may be the only person strong
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enough to investigate World War II. It's a pain that you have to be the catalyst for so many
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other networks. But God chose you. Love you. Apparently, Tucker Carlson is discussing World
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War II. I have told people which documentary I watched that completely woke me up to it,
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which was a PBS and a BBC documentary, realizing that I was certainly not told the entire story of
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World War II. And what was the title of that documentary? The Savage Peace. And you can find
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that, I think, at like the Daily Dot or something like that. But the Savage Peace is 100% worth
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watching. And then you'll realize you'll just be ripped into a new reality in regards to what
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happened to just German-speaking citizens who did nothing wrong and going through and understanding
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their genocide. It just makes you go, why not include this? That's the first question you ask,
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is why not just include this in the official story of World War II? Why were they then
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silenced? And why were speech laws passed to prevent them from talking about their own history?
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Why is one genocide more important than the other? And yeah, I do speak about topics like that. It's
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important to me. Sarah writes, any thoughts on the Brian Koberger case? G or NG would love for
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Candace to cover this. I actually am definitely going to cover that. So don't you worry. It will happen.
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In terms of new merch, guys, we have some on the website and letting you know,
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you guys are going to love this merch. Look at making a sandwich. Girls just want to have
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manly men. I'm really proud of this. Anti-feminist as I am getting ready for the book launch.
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switch today. That's patmos.tech. Dare I look into the live chat right now? What are you guys
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saying? Oh, someone says Jeremy Boring is a wild name. This person says nothing rhymes with
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kombucha should be one of my shirts. You're so right. Nothing rhymes with kombucha. If that's not
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on Taylor Swift's next album, like what are we even doing? What am I what have I even done? I've
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wasted my entire year, my entire pregnancy. If that song is not on her next album, we will see what
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happens. Anyways, you guys, we will keep you up to date on all matters daily wire. I'm sure we will
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have more updates in the last in the next 24 hours. I hope I reported on everything responsibly,
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what was innuendo, what was rumor and what thus far is fact. I look forward to reading all of your