Candace Owens - BREAKING NEWS： Where Tyler Robinson Went On The Night Of 9⧸10. ｜ Candace Ep 285

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, happy Tuesday. And we will start with a question of the day. Now, imagine if you would, that you were writing a Netflix series about a 19 year old kid who had never been in trouble ever. Actually, he'd never been arrested, never committed any crimes. He has a perfect ACT score. So he's also pretty brilliant. But for whatever reason, you decide that this protagonist is going to become a murderer.

00:00:25.820 He's going to one day out of support for his trans furry lover. Maybe he's the furry and the other guy. I don't really know. The point is, is he's going to assassinate a political figure in broad daylight who, it should be mentioned, that particular political figure isn't exactly known for raging against the LGBTQ community. But anyway, that's what this person decides to do, assassinate him.

00:00:49.020 One afternoon, he scales a rooftop at a university that he never attended, and he accomplishes what he set out to do. He murders Charlie Kirk. What would you expect that young man to do next?

00:01:02.800 If you're just trying to sell this as a, what you would expect someone to do next, logically. Well, today we are going to tell you where exactly Tyler Robinson went after he went to Dairy Queen. And it's interesting. And of course, it just pokes more holes in the fed sloppy story. So welcome back to Candace.

00:01:32.800 And I'll see you next time.

00:02:02.800 It was allegedly Tyler Robinson. He was allegedly acting alone on a rooftop. And it is allegedly supposed to have been the first time that he ever killed a human being. So we, I think most people who are thinking through this, we naturally would expect a little bit of adrenaline, right?

00:02:22.620 Maybe even the thought of what he had just done for the very first time might have made him physically ill. Like we would expect him to maybe lose his lunch, not exactly pop over to a nearby Dairy Queen to have lunch, calmly have lunch and just begin texting his lover.

00:02:40.040 Which is why I was very surprised to learn of what Tyler Robinson did thereafter. Ready?

00:02:47.480 Tyler Robinson, we can exclusively confirm to you all, drove three hours away from Orem, Utah, down to Panguitch, Utah. I hope I'm saying that right. A lot of the cities sound weird. I think it's Panguitch, Utah. I'm showing you a map of that distance. It is just under three hours to get there.

00:03:10.060 And what was he doing there? You're probably wondering, did he meet up with somebody? No, he was alone. And what we can tell you that he did when he got there was that he pulled into the Cowboys' Smokehouse on North Main Street.

00:03:23.600 He grabbed himself a seat at the bar at this steakhouse. And he ordered himself some more food. Specifically, Tyler Robinson ordered a steak, medium rare, with mashed potatoes and vegetables.

00:03:37.220 There were three servers that were working that night. And then after news exploded the following day and people began obsessively sharing, of course, the photo of the suspect, Tyler Robinson, having been captured after 33 hours.

00:03:56.520 Well, one of the servers recognized him as the person that was sitting at the bar the night before. So they decided to huddle up with management and said, no, that person, Tyler Robinson, he was here. He was eating a steak. He was eating mashed potatoes.

00:04:09.300 The management said, are you sure? Are you positive that Tyler Robinson said? Yes, I'm absolutely sure.

00:04:14.060 Well, they don't have any cameras at this restaurant. So what they decided to do was to verify that he was in the building,

00:04:23.020 not by, of course, consulting outdoor video footage, which they didn't have access to, but rather just looking through credit card charges.

00:04:33.400 Because Tyler Robinson, despite telling his roommate how he wanted to get away with this, remember the messages and like, oh, here's what happened.

00:04:41.860 I don't want anybody to know. Make sure you delete this letter that's under the keyboard, but take a picture of it before you delete it, but read it and then destroy it.

00:04:51.200 Yes, he's trying to get away with this crime. Well, he used his credit card. That's how they found it.

00:04:57.580 And so what they did was the right thing. They contacted the feds. Now, that's interesting because I would imagine that after 33 hours,

00:05:05.660 when they sort of gloriously come out and yeehaw, we got him, I would have, and call me crazy, I don't know how this stuff works.

00:05:12.340 I'm not an expert, right? We're not experts, but I would imagine the first thing that they would do is that they would probably just try to figure out where he'd been.

00:05:20.100 And maybe one way they would do that would be going through his credit card charges.

00:05:24.280 I would imagine the federal government had that capability. They didn't do that.

00:05:28.640 Instead, they were contacted days later by this restaurant.

00:05:33.640 The server filed a report responsibly and said, yeah, he was here.

00:05:38.620 We have the literal receipt, the literal receipt.

00:05:42.820 And they explained that Tyler Robinson was not very talkative.

00:05:50.720 He seemed absolutely fine and normal and was texting on his phone.

00:05:58.040 Maybe that's when he was sending more messages to his lover as he was eating a steak.

00:06:02.160 He was sure hungry is what I would say, but calm nonetheless.

00:06:06.380 He didn't have the jitters. He wasn't scared.

00:06:07.860 He was just hungry. Now, what's fascinating to me is what happens after, because, again, I'm expecting that the feds would go, well, let us get down there.

00:06:18.580 Let us get down to Panguitch. Let us start interviewing everybody.

00:06:23.780 Let's start checking all these cameras around here to see if we've got them.

00:06:27.400 No, no, that's all they did.

00:06:29.480 And they sort of were obliged to call them back and to say, OK, what happened?

00:06:36.020 And then that's it. The trouble's cold.

00:06:37.500 Now, remember, I told you guys that I spoke with the lawyer.

00:06:43.420 This would obviously be Erica's lawyer because she's listed as the victim.

00:06:46.840 And they asserted that at this part in the process, what happens next is that the investigators, separate from Erica, are supposed to be, well, investigating, supposed to be going around, trying to gather more information to prove their case that this is definitely the shooter and he acted alone.

00:07:05.800 I would expect that they would have gone down to this restaurant.

00:07:11.420 But I can tell you guys today, they have not.

00:07:14.620 Nobody is interested in going down to this restaurant and speaking with these employees and speaking with people nearby and seeing what they saw and learning about Tyler Robinson's demeanor.

00:07:25.940 Because it's not that kind of an investigation, guys.

00:07:28.160 This is case closed. Giddy up.

00:07:31.700 That's what he was.

00:07:32.240 He went down and he had himself a steak after he had some Dairy Queen.

00:07:39.220 Now, three hours is a long ride.

00:07:41.440 I get it. He's probably hungry.

00:07:43.360 And I get that he used his credit card because, I don't know, I guess he's Gen Z.

00:07:47.740 He's never heard of, like, DVDs and stuff.

00:07:50.140 They've always had the technological capabilities.

00:07:51.980 He doesn't even know what cash is.

00:07:53.260 He didn't even think about just going to an ATM and getting cash out to pull off this crime.

00:07:58.580 He thought through everything else, how to scale the rooftops, how to make this happen, where exactly Charlie was going to sit.

00:08:03.600 But everything else kind of falls apart afterwards.

00:08:05.720 All he could think about was getting food, and he decided the best way to try to get away with murder was to use his credit card.

00:08:12.020 Now, parking aside the fact that he's a 4.0 student with a perfect ACT score, he couldn't—that thought just never crossed his mind to just take cash out.

00:08:21.680 So here is what our now-updated timeline looks like from that day.

00:08:28.020 It's been a while since we have revisited that, and I think that we also need to revisit, which we are, the Dairy Queen stop because it had to have occurred earlier than we had initially documented.

00:08:39.180 It definitely happened, but I think the time frame of the stop is wrong because if we need three hours to get from Orem down to Pengwich, and I have confirmed that that happened, again, there was a literal receipt, and the FBI knows about it and has that in their possession, then it's got to be earlier.

00:08:57.840 All right, it's got to be slightly earlier that he went to Dairy Queen, which would track for me because if we know that he was throwing clothes out in the Dairy Queen, that's probably going to be a little bit closer to the shooting, and he's not going to hang around.

00:09:12.020 So here's what we have. We have that press conference that happens at 5.30. At 5.59, Cash Patel tweets that the subject—erroneously tweets—the subject in custody has been released because, sorry, they had erroneously tweeted that they had him before that, and he says,

00:09:27.820 our investigation continues after 6 o'clock p.m. is when we are gauging the first correspondence to have taken place between Tyler and Lance based on the conversation that they were having.

00:09:41.780 6.38 is when we initially had when that photo was taken, that photo was captured at the Dairy Queen, and I will update that for you guys.

00:09:50.280 I am going back and trying to be more precise, wondering if that needs to be adjusted by an hour. Maybe it was actually 5.38 p.m. and time zones were wrong. I'll follow up with you guys there.

00:10:03.340 And now we can add that 8.45 p.m.—that's the time, approximately, that Tyler turned up in Pengwich, Utah. Again, that is three hours away from Orem.

00:10:13.440 He has a meal at the bar counter, and then he leaves around 9.30 p.m.

00:10:20.020 Remind you guys that he is fine. He's in a totally fine mood, and he appears to be—he is texting while he is eating, not speaking much to the servers.

00:10:30.420 So, when I spoke to the people who had reported this, they suspect, and I think this is a good suspicion, a good instinct to follow, that he may have gone to his grandma's house afterwards, because apparently that's where his grandmother is from, and she lives nearby.

00:10:50.500 And if you guys recall, Tyler Robinson's grandmother was one of the first people to speak out, and she said, you have the wrong person.

00:10:58.440 She said, my grandson does not fire guns. My grandson did not commit this murder.

00:11:02.680 And so, since I am learning that she is from around here, and that she is a local, and everyone's familiar with her, they know who she is, I would imagine that it's possible that Tyler Robinson could have gone to his grandmother's house for the night.

00:11:20.660 And again, we don't know that as a fact. I am putting it out there because this is an investigation.

00:11:25.560 And by the way, if you are somebody who is around the—or rather operates a business around the Cowboy Smokehouse, you may have footage that you're not even aware of.

00:11:38.340 If you have information, maybe the Fed's called around, I don't know, please, we are inviting you to send us an email to moretipsatcandiceowens.com,

00:11:49.660 but we can now officially plot that in our timeline, and it just makes the Fed's story more—it's just unbelievable.

00:11:59.000 Just unbelievable, is what I would say. Nothing they are saying makes any sense.

00:12:04.600 We can also add this to the list of things that—stories that we have broken, because one of my favorite things ever is how, no matter how many stories we break,

00:12:12.260 no matter how much information we provide, the haters will forever say, she has presented no evidence.

00:12:18.360 Yes. They're just going on vibes in a dream on the Candace show. That's it. She had a dream, and now she's just blindly pointing the finger at everybody.

00:12:27.500 And so I actually decided, while we were on break, that I had time to put together a list.

00:12:31.560 And this is by no means definitive. This is just a list of stories that we have broken on this show.

00:12:36.380 So here we go. Charlie's text messages—that was a pretty big one—showing that he was, in fact, abandoning the pro-Israel cause 48 hours before he was assassinated,

00:12:47.800 despite the fact that everyone lied about that fact.

00:12:50.600 We presented the photo of Tyler Robinson at the Dairy Queen on the day of the assassination.

00:12:56.320 Tyler Robinson, we are telling you today, then went to the Cowboy Smokehouse that evening,

00:13:00.540 and likely—I should put likely there—avoided traffic lights.

00:13:05.360 We can also tell you that Tyler Robinson called out of work on the 11th.

00:13:09.740 That's another story I'm breaking here. He was citing food poisoning.

00:13:13.800 He called out of work very early in the morning on the 11th, and he also called out of work on the 10th,

00:13:18.800 saying that he had to help his grandmother move furniture.

00:13:23.000 That is an interesting data point that I would like to present to you.

00:13:25.820 Again, he is using his grandmother as an excuse.

00:13:29.220 I think that if I was the federal government and I had unlimited resources,

00:13:35.520 if I was the state government and I had unlimited resources in the form of people's tax dollars,

00:13:42.200 I would probably be wondering if he went to his grandmother's house that night.

00:13:48.360 Just saying.

00:13:50.240 Tyler was working at Wild Electric, by the way, in Santa Clara, Utah.

00:13:54.360 I did not break that story. That was already in the news, but you may have missed that.

00:13:58.480 And yeah, that was his excuse. He had to help his grandmother.

00:14:02.500 I also broke the story about Charlie's Catholic considerations.

00:14:05.920 I didn't even mean to break that one, but then I had to present the receipts

00:14:09.500 because people were acting crazy about him attending mass, praying the rosary,

00:14:14.940 that he died wearing a St. Michael pendant, that he had a private Catholic funeral mass.

00:14:19.400 I also broke the story regarding Terrell Farnsworth's strange behavior moments after the assassination.

00:14:28.380 I broke probably the biggest story of all, actually.

00:14:33.740 It is the only reason that we are still discussing this.

00:14:36.480 It's the only reason that we realized the single reason, the first reason, rather,

00:14:41.440 primary reason that we recognized the feds were lying to us was

00:14:44.280 because I broke the story that there was no blood on the back of Charlie as he went down,

00:14:49.040 that the bullet did not pass through.

00:14:51.500 I also presented to you guys the photos from inside Charlie's SUV after his assassination.

00:14:56.500 I broke the story that the feds did not impound that vehicle.

00:15:02.860 Broke a story that the feds seized the cameras inside the hospital,

00:15:06.620 that the feds blocked Dr. Trotter from returning to his operating room,

00:15:10.020 and that a phone call was then placed to D.C.

00:15:12.140 We are still trying to figure out to whom.

00:15:15.680 Who received that phone call, which allowed Dr. Trotter to go back into his operating room?

00:15:20.920 We broke the story that Andrew Colvett lied about the Superman neck.

00:15:24.520 That quotation never came from Dr. Lee Trotter at all.

00:15:26.840 It allegedly came from Erica in a moment of upset.

00:15:30.400 We broke the story that Charlie texted Dan Flood and Andrew Colvett the night before,

00:15:34.540 saying that he was afraid that they were going to kill him.

00:15:37.680 This has now been confirmed by Erica, or at least it was confirmed to me, from Erica.

00:15:43.540 We broke the story that Netanyahu called Charlie to make an offer to take Turning Point to the next level.

00:15:49.360 That story is being disputed by Erica.

00:15:51.500 That's a Turning Point on Turning Point fight, okay?

00:15:55.000 I don't know who to believe, but I will say that I confirmed that separately from Andrew Colvett,

00:15:59.640 with someone that did not have communication with Andrew Colvett,

00:16:02.160 so I tend to believe that that offer did indeed come through.

00:16:04.820 We broke the story about Fort Huachuca, and we're not done with that.

00:16:09.840 We presented the military police report, backed that up with evidence

00:16:13.140 that Mitch was telling the truth about what happened on September 9th.

00:16:19.280 We broke the story about the Egyptian planes tracking Turning Point to Faith.

00:16:25.360 That document we still have for you, which is coming forward.

00:16:28.460 We will be proven correct on that as well.

00:16:30.500 We broke the story about the bomb dogs failing to detect the recently discharged weapon on September 10th,

00:16:38.820 and that it was actually the feds that then directed a rookie police officer, three rookie police officers, to find it.

00:16:45.120 We also broke the story of the massive check that was coming to Turning Point USA from Pierre.

00:16:51.560 Is it Pierre DuPont? Is it Pierre Falcone?

00:16:54.660 I think it's Pierre Falcone.

00:16:56.020 I really do believe it's Pierre Falcone for a lot of reasons.

00:16:59.060 We are still looking for more information.

00:17:01.180 So when it comes to receipts and evidence, we have been presenting a lot of it.

00:17:07.880 And we are getting no credit for it.

00:17:09.180 We don't care.

00:17:09.640 We don't want credit, actually.

00:17:11.540 What I want is for this to be solved.

00:17:14.320 I want to know who killed Charlie Kirk, and I don't believe it was Tyler Robinson.

00:17:16.560 And on that note, we should get back to the Fort Huachuca story, because this has proven to be a very interesting lead.

00:17:23.800 We have a couple of interesting updates to add to that.

00:17:26.040 First and foremost, I should say, for good measure, that Turning Point USA would like us to clarify that while, yes, it is true,

00:17:34.060 the tent idea was initially brought up by Elizabeth McCoy,

00:17:38.020 it was ultimately a group decision to move forward with the idea, a group decision between the events team and the exhibitor hall team.

00:17:48.600 Now, the idea from them was that at future tour stops, people would use that tent to grieve and to share their thoughts about how Charlie had changed their lives.

00:18:00.520 I think, just as a, you know, just a spectator here, there are other ways to grieve, and you can still share stories about how Charlie changed your life.

00:18:13.320 You don't need to be under the tent that he was murdered in.

00:18:15.740 That's just my feedback there.

00:18:17.560 Second update, this time regarding Fort Huachuca as well.

00:18:22.500 Erica has submitted another follow-up text regarding her whereabouts on the 8th.

00:18:27.460 Now, you will recall, as I told you yesterday, that the issue with the first message that she provided,

00:18:32.960 which was purportedly a conversation between her and Charlie about dinner on the evening of the 8th,

00:18:39.140 was that the contact name was blocked on the message, was blacked out on the message.

00:18:44.740 I had received that, by the way, on December 28th.

00:18:47.860 I immediately said, hey, could you unblock that or uncover that, rather?

00:18:53.280 And I followed up about four to five times, just trying to get that before we came back onto the podcast.

00:19:01.740 I just said, you know, I just want to see the contact number shown.

00:19:04.660 Well, when I got off air yesterday, I had a follow-up, but it unfortunately was not what we were looking for or what we had asked for.

00:19:10.940 It was just a Charlie Kirk contact card, just like this is Charlie Kirk's contact card in my phone.

00:19:17.140 Now, I should add here that I am obviously working through a third party,

00:19:21.300 and they made it clear that Erica has been tied up with something personal,

00:19:25.180 so that's the reason for the delay.

00:19:28.200 There were sick kids as well throughout the holiday, so there's just been a delay on getting that,

00:19:33.480 but I wanted to let you guys know where we are at.

00:19:37.100 No response at all from Brian Harpole.

00:19:39.420 I've told you that several times.

00:19:40.660 Or, relatedly, Dan Flood.

00:19:42.080 Now, Dan Flood was not seen at Fort Huachuca, but he does have communication with Brian Harpole,

00:19:48.560 so I wanted to exhaust every effort to get to the bottom of where these individuals were,

00:19:54.560 specifically Brian Harpole and Erica Kirk.

00:19:56.220 Now, regarding Mark Amaday, you will remember that Mitch had described a person who he was sure was a congressman.

00:20:09.340 He felt that it was a congressman, and I told you that we looked up a congressman that fit the description of what he was telling us,

00:20:15.920 5'9", glasses, grayish-white hair, and we came up with Mark Amaday, and he said,

00:20:20.980 that face looks familiar.

00:20:23.620 Then Mark Amaday came out, and he had dropped a YouTube video of a live stream of him on a committee,

00:20:32.780 and then X came back and said,

00:20:35.380 he actually missed the first two roll calls.

00:20:37.960 This was a 12-hour house committee video.

00:20:41.480 We certainly did not have the time to parse through it in our last episode last year.

00:20:45.900 I did, of course, make that a priority during break.

00:20:48.920 I did go through that 12-hour footage.

00:20:50.980 And I would like to now state unequivocally that I think his story checks out.

00:20:56.640 Now, I realize there's been some confusion because he does, in fact, miss those first two roll calls.

00:21:01.460 But people then pointed out to me in the comments that he does appear.

00:21:05.020 You can see him on the screen early on.

00:21:07.020 It is blurry, but that early on where he's sitting, it looks like in his chair.

00:21:11.840 When I visually look at it, it looks like Mark Amaday to me before the roll call.

00:21:15.380 Now, it's certainly by no means definitive, but I think it is indeed very likely that the person that we see on camera is Mark Amaday early on in the hearing.

00:21:24.600 And I am not here to try to make someone fit into the story.

00:21:28.860 I want to actually find the right person and eliminate the wrong people.

00:21:32.520 And to be clear, like I said, Mitch initially contacted me about just Erica Kirk and Brian Harpole.

00:21:40.900 Brian Harpole being the big one.

00:21:42.260 This meeting, this hands-on meeting that looked like mission is on the table.

00:21:48.520 Let's go.

00:21:49.120 Break.

00:21:49.440 Right before mission.

00:21:50.240 That's how it was described to me.

00:21:51.280 Now, regarding Mark Amaday, there is someone else that I believe that we should look into.

00:22:00.460 Okay.

00:22:01.900 Follow one lead.

00:22:03.000 If it doesn't lead where we think it's going to go, we can pivot and something interesting has come up.

00:22:07.820 Now, I will start by restating I have never felt good about Terrell Barnsworth.

00:22:15.680 Okay.

00:22:16.360 Not since that very first phone call I had with him.

00:22:18.800 In fact, the phone call I had with him, I can say, was the very first moment that I went, something's not right here.

00:22:28.600 I told you guys, he just started lying to me.

00:22:31.800 Repeatedly weird.

00:22:32.960 His energy was weird.

00:22:34.140 I was like, what's going on?

00:22:35.080 Why are you being weird?

00:22:35.800 I'm calling you because I'm just trying to let the public know, like, you know, why you took the cameras out.

00:22:39.960 I'm sure there's a logical reason.

00:22:41.240 It is kind of weird that you're there.

00:22:42.320 Why are you there?

00:22:43.180 He's all over the place.

00:22:44.460 And again, this is not in the immediate aftermath.

00:22:46.480 This is not first 48.

00:22:47.860 We've got the jitters.

00:22:50.100 Charlie Kirk's kill.

00:22:50.860 This is like a week past that.

00:22:53.620 And I expressed repeatedly to my audience that something was not right with that phone call.

00:22:58.520 As soon as I hung up, I said to my team, and I'm quoting myself here, that man is guilty of something.

00:23:05.200 He's guilty of something.

00:23:06.340 He's lying about weird stuff.

00:23:07.620 I don't know how to send a file.

00:23:08.740 What do you mean?

00:23:09.780 You run an entire AV company.

00:23:12.280 You know how to send a file over the internet.

00:23:14.220 Well, I'm scared Google might hack me.

00:23:17.020 What?

00:23:18.780 You're scared Google's going to hack you to release more footage of Charlie dying?

00:23:23.360 That makes no sense.

00:23:24.260 Nothing made sense, and I will never pretend it made sense.

00:23:27.160 And I'm following my gut on Terrell Farnsworth, okay?

00:23:29.760 And I expressed my gut not just to you back at home, but I also expressed that to Erica and Justin Strife when we were sitting in the meeting.

00:23:39.500 I said, I'm not taking my foot off of that pedal.

00:23:42.400 No.

00:23:42.640 I do think that it's worth stating, before we get into this, that me finding the behavior and the conversation that I had with Terrell to be extremely suspicious is not, of course, an invitation to harass him or his family.

00:23:58.640 I'm against that, and I'm saying that because apparently he is receiving death threats.

00:24:02.140 That was told to me, that he's receiving death threats because people want answers.

00:24:05.880 Now, not ever do I ever want that to happen.

00:24:08.860 I don't want people to watch this show and partake in that, nor do I think you guys are partaking in that, but I'm just saying that.

00:24:14.760 Like, on this show, we sentence people to truth, to more daylight.

00:24:19.820 And the reality is that I don't trust people who lie repeatedly to me over the phone.

00:24:25.580 I don't.

00:24:26.260 He was acting guilty during a time when I had no indication one way or the other whether or not turning point people would be involved in a cover-up.

00:24:34.000 And for clarity, I want to show you guys this as well, exclusively, a still image of the much longer video I have that was shown to me of Charlie from behind.

00:24:45.860 Okay?

00:24:46.240 This is the video.

00:24:47.660 And you can see what we have there.

00:24:52.040 That's Charlie's necklace that's hanging.

00:24:53.800 There's no blood on Charlie.

00:24:56.760 There was absolutely no blood on Charlie.

00:24:59.440 Not only did the bullet not go through, it didn't even cause any sort of destruction.

00:25:05.460 And I follow that video until he goes down.

00:25:08.000 There's nothing that we would expect to see from A30-06.

00:25:11.420 And again, I have a close-up of this.

00:25:14.440 That's his chain.

00:25:15.400 There's no question that what you are seeing there is his chain.

00:25:18.860 And the only blood that I saw was blood in his hand, which was spurting forward, to be clear.

00:25:25.020 However, this doesn't make sense to me, doesn't make sense to the narrative, doesn't make sense to anybody that knows anything about guns.

00:25:33.280 It just doesn't.

00:25:34.200 Charlie was in pretty good shape except for where he had the wound on his neck that we all saw, the graphic video that we all saw that was circulated online.

00:25:43.420 Now, I'm going to add here that another person who I do not trust at all, for many reasons, because one of them being he's a sexual deviant, he's also been indicted for crimes by the state of Arizona, federal crimes for which he was recently pardoned by President Donald Trump.

00:26:00.160 I think it's fair to assume that a person who commits crimes in the past might commit crimes in the future or, I guess, allegedly committed crimes.

00:26:06.980 I think those court cases are still moving through.

00:26:09.320 That's a perfectly logical assumption that a person who's involved in doing the wrong thing might keep it up.

00:26:19.080 A person that seems motivated by money, a person who factually was in debt and was having his payments garnished at Turning Point USA, who then blinks and becomes a millionaire working for a charity, might be a little bit shady.

00:26:32.460 I think Tyler Boyer, it is a logical conclusion that he is, at best, a very shady character.

00:26:41.980 I'm going to stand by that.

00:26:43.760 Ten toes down.

00:26:45.960 Now, because I was hyper-fixed on Tyler Boyer, I decided to ask Erica in person during our sit-down how she met Tyler.

00:26:54.100 It was actually, I had three questions when I went in there that I wanted to get the answer to.

00:26:59.280 That was actually my number one question, because I don't know much about the story of how Tyler met Charlie Kirk, and I now desperately wish, but I remember that I could remember what Charlie told me about that.

00:27:13.340 How did they get linked up?

00:27:14.740 And I felt that me asking Erica that question, she might be able to provide a lot of insight to who Tyler Boyer was during the time he was with Charlie Kirk, why, maybe even before he was with Charlie Kirk, and why he got involved with Charlie Kirk.

00:27:32.180 And, of course, as we know, Erica knew Tyler for years before her and Charlie began dating, right?

00:27:40.220 Both she and Tyler had been honest about that fact, particularly citing Trump's 2015 presidential rally as an event where the two of them attended together, right?

00:27:51.260 Both standing behind Donald Trump in Arizona at his 2015 July rally, which I should mention also her mother, Lori Fransby, is in the background, so the three of them have known each other since at least July 2015 publicly.

00:28:05.900 So I asked Erica how she met him.

00:28:10.480 Her answer was that she met him at the 2015 rally because they were both standing behind Trump, and I immediately corrected her.

00:28:18.380 I said, that's not possible.

00:28:19.740 It's not possible because Tyler discussed knowing you already at the, if we're calling it, funeral rally.

00:28:27.980 Do people, I don't even know if that's kind of what it was, like a funeral political rally.

00:28:31.200 Today, Tyler got on stage and he told the audience that Erica had called him, asking how she could get involved, and that he then made a decision to put her behind Donald Trump.

00:28:45.920 Here is Tyler making that statement in his own words at Charlie Kirk's memorial.

00:28:49.680 At his wedding, I told the story of talking Charlie into moving to Arizona.

00:28:53.720 He was an adamant Chicago boy.

00:28:56.440 I needed to break that.

00:28:57.860 Selfishly, I wanted him to love Arizona because I had recently convinced him to move Turning Point USA to Arizona.

00:29:05.060 It was a hard sell at first, and that was until I hosted the first Trump rally in Trump rally history right here in Arizona in 2015.

00:29:16.140 I got a call.

00:29:18.440 I got a call from Miss Erica Kirk.

00:29:21.420 Miss Arizona 2012.

00:29:23.780 I just want to help, she said.

00:29:25.260 So naturally, I put her right behind the president at that first rally.

00:29:30.680 Okay.

00:29:31.820 So, she called, she said I wanted to help, and he put her behind the president.

00:29:35.980 So, I'm sitting with her and she doesn't remember how she met him, but she said that she would look back through old messages because, like me, she never deletes any of her messages.

00:29:43.180 And she thought maybe, specifically, she said that they had a connection in politics via a senator or a congressman.

00:29:51.060 That's what she said.

00:29:51.900 Now, in hindsight, after that meeting, because I have continued to prod the narrative on Terrell and Tyler, I believe that's accurate.

00:30:00.660 I thought, that's interesting.

00:30:02.240 Who were the congressmen?

00:30:04.040 Who were the congressmen that Tyler maybe knew?

00:30:06.680 Well, I should tell you guys that Terrell Farnsworth and Tyler Boyer go back.

00:30:12.200 They go way back.

00:30:13.940 I'm talking generationally back, okay?

00:30:16.740 Terrell Farnsworth's parents went to high school with Tyler Boyer's parents.

00:30:23.280 They're all from Chandler, Arizona.

00:30:25.440 And then, Tyler Boyer and Terrell Farnsworth went to high school together.

00:30:32.540 They graduated, it looks like, two years apart from Gilbert High School.

00:30:38.940 So, these two are thicker than thieves.

00:30:41.540 They are overtly political, obviously.

00:30:44.240 In fact, at that very same Trump rally in 2015, Tyler Boyer introduces himself as the youngest chairman of the Republican Party.

00:30:52.860 He's very involved in Arizona politics.

00:30:54.800 And like he said, he's telling the truth, he was the reason that Charlie moved to, decided to put Turning Point USA's campus in Arizona.

00:31:02.460 Charlie's from Chicago, right?

00:31:05.540 That's where they first started, Turning Point USA, in Chicago.

00:31:07.960 Tyler has been driving this bus and, like I said, hiring the people around Charlie Kirk.

00:31:15.840 Except for me.

00:31:16.480 That really just happened.

00:31:17.120 I was the anomaly.

00:31:17.920 We really just met.

00:31:19.440 And I wonder if it would have happened if, you know, Tyler was there.

00:31:22.980 Anyways, the point here is that Tyler Boyer was very well acquainted, obviously, with Terrell on a familial basis.

00:31:31.580 And he was very close with Terrell's family, particularly Terrell's uncles and cousins.

00:31:40.000 Terrell's father is a man named Dwayne Farnsworth.

00:31:43.160 And his first cousins are longtime Arizona Congressman Eddie Farnsworth.

00:31:49.540 I believe he left office in 2022.

00:31:53.320 And also his brother, Eddie's brother, is David Farnsworth.

00:31:57.380 So just to reiterate that, you have David, Senator David Farnsworth, he's still in office.

00:32:02.120 You have Eddie Farnsworth, who was the chairman of the state house judiciary.

00:32:10.100 And those two men are brothers and first cousins with Dwayne Farnsworth, who is Terrell's father.

00:32:18.300 And they are extremely close to Tyler.

00:32:20.280 In fact, Eddie has actually been sued in the past with Tyler.

00:32:24.560 Like they're on the same side.

00:32:25.420 They are being sued together.

00:32:26.560 You can go back and you can mine all of this.

00:32:28.560 He has known that family for a very long time.

00:32:30.540 Anyway, in 2014, Senator David Farnsworth introduced Erica's mother to the House floor with concerns over EMPs.

00:32:42.480 Okay.

00:32:43.420 At the time, David Farnsworth was actually sponsoring the bill, a bill which would involve introducing Lori, who was then the CEO of GTech Industries.

00:32:52.840 And Eddie Farnsworth is also listed as having voted on this particular bill.

00:32:57.980 They got it passed through.

00:32:59.480 So the three of these people knew each other, you know, Eddie, Lori, and Dave.

00:33:05.660 And you can see here at the top, when you look at the members present, it says E. Farnsworth, mister.

00:33:11.920 That is Eddie Farnsworth.

00:33:13.500 And then if you scroll down, if you see here, it's telling you who's sponsoring this bill.

00:33:18.300 That is David Farnsworth.

00:33:19.280 And it says that he became concerned about a potential for an EMP event a short time ago.

00:33:26.480 And he got support from Congressman Trent Franks.

00:33:30.040 And it then tells us that he introduced Larry Guinta, Chuck Lee, and Lori Fransvay, the CEO of GTech Industries.

00:33:37.500 Larry Guinta, by the way, or Guinta, I don't know if I'm saying that right, is Erica's stepfather.

00:33:41.820 So they've known each other.

00:33:42.400 The Farnsworths, the Boyers, and the Fransvays have known each other.

00:33:44.740 So, at least since 2014 on paper, we could keep looking and go backwards.

00:33:51.920 But it is very likely, obviously, given how close Tyler Boyer is to these men, that they all knew each other going back to 2014.

00:34:00.280 I think likely earlier, if I am being honest.

00:34:04.200 I have an indication that it was actually earlier, but this is on paper.

00:34:07.760 So let's stick to the facts.

00:34:08.760 Anyways, Eddie Farnsworth is an interesting character because the year prior, in 2013, Eddie Farnsworth was, as I said, the chair of the House Judiciary Committee.

00:34:20.620 And he caused a bit of a kerfluffle in the state because, for some unknown reason, he blocked a hearing on a bill to prevent child sex trafficking.

00:34:29.160 And he was the wrong person to do this because he had been in the news years earlier because his nephew, Albert Farnsworth, had raped a 13-year-old.

00:34:37.600 Now, on this topic of this child sex trafficking bill, which he didn't bring it down to the floor for a vote, and it had support from Democrats and Republicans because it is a problem in this state.

00:34:51.320 Child sex trafficking is a problem in the state of Arizona because the border is there, and they were trying to do something about it to make it so that it was less easy for people to traffic children.

00:35:02.380 I think specifically ages 15 and 16.

00:35:05.780 And I want to say that never in my life, in my political life, have I worked on a single story where a theme of child sex trafficking has emerged more.

00:35:16.100 I've never seen it in my life, okay?

00:35:17.780 Whether it's the people who own the planes, remember the 888 plane, they run an anti-child sex trafficking charity.

00:35:27.620 Also, in their profile pictures, they're wearing a t-shirt from another child sex trafficking charity, Operation Underground.

00:35:34.080 And you will recall that following the assassination, Phil Lyman was speaking to the guy that used to run—I'm blanking on his name, Tim Ballard.

00:35:43.500 That's his name, Tim Ballard.

00:35:44.680 He used to run Operation Underground because he had gotten donation and support from Glenn Beck for Operation Underground.

00:35:54.040 He was involved in that, I remember, because I interviewed Tim Ballard about Operation Underground.

00:35:57.740 Fort Huachuca Base, which has randomly come up because of Mitch, in general, they also are caught up in a child porn ring.

00:36:07.000 That's a real story that has been an issue at Huachuca Base.

00:36:10.540 And I'm showing you this article from CBS News.

00:36:14.060 U.S. Army missed the red flags about a civilian leader who led a child porn ring and risked U.S. security.

00:36:23.060 That person's name was David Rodsham.

00:36:26.000 He was a top civilian commander at a U.S. air base in Afghanistan.

00:36:31.920 And you can go on and you can see that it says that after he left his post, he returned to Fort Huachuca, which is a major army installation in Arizona, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:42.640 There is also Fort Huachuca Base, which gets involved in a scandal relating to child sex trafficking, where Turning Point USA has their base, where they actually decided to put the campus, if you will, Turning Point USA, just outside, literally across the way.

00:37:02.260 There's a place known as Arizona Mills, which is like the number one place for child sex trafficking, just like across the street.

00:37:09.540 I want to be very clear here.

00:37:10.620 I'm saying that I'm making no connection there.

00:37:13.020 I am not suggesting that Turning Point USA is trafficking children.

00:37:16.160 I just want to be very clear.

00:37:17.140 I'm just saying that everywhere I look in this story, themes of child sex trafficking come up.

00:37:22.340 OK, anyway, I am wondering regarding Eddie Farnsworth, if it is possible that Mitch saw him.

00:37:29.700 Because he's a dead ringer, a dead ringer for Mark Amaday.

00:37:35.340 When I saw this, I was like, whoa, doppelganger.

00:37:37.560 This man looks like Mark Amaday.

00:37:39.840 He just and I and I sent it to Mitch and he said, yes, this man looks very familiar.

00:37:44.460 Again, these are not the people that he contacted me about.

00:37:48.360 But I would like to find out if this could be a connection.

00:37:51.600 I'd like to see if it's possible because the Farnsworth family has deep military ties as well.

00:37:57.100 I legitimately do not know.

00:37:58.460 I am not making an accusation here.

00:38:00.720 I personally think he looks a lot like Mark Amaday.

00:38:03.360 And as a final point, interestingly enough, connecting a final dot here,

00:38:09.260 Arizona politicians happened to travel down to the Davis-Monthan base

00:38:15.460 for their annual commanders summit where Arizona community leaders meet with military men.

00:38:22.380 This is very close.

00:38:23.080 This is about, Mark, what is this, 40 minutes away from Fort Huachuca?

00:38:26.200 Uh, it's a little over an hour north in Tucson.

00:38:29.580 Okay.

00:38:30.360 In Tucson, they happened to travel here for their annual commander summits on September 9th.

00:38:35.900 That happened.

00:38:36.980 You can see this pulling this up on the Davis-Monthan Air Force base website.

00:38:40.860 It says that they kicked off their Arizona commanders summit on September 9th, which provides an opportunity for military commanders and Arizona community leaders to discuss topics impacting military installations.

00:38:55.380 Again, that could obviously just be a coincidence, but it's interesting.

00:38:59.720 It would give them an excuse to be in that region.

00:39:02.060 And so I'd like to know more because the Farnsworth family is coming up too much.

00:39:05.720 Terrell Farnsworth's wife, by the way, people on the internet discovered this.

00:39:10.560 And I'm going to get the name.

00:39:12.440 I don't want to get this name right.

00:39:13.900 I'm going to get this name right.

00:39:14.760 I mean, I don't want to get it wrong.

00:39:16.380 His father-in-law is Thomas Burt, who ran Duncan Aviation.

00:39:21.500 The FBO, I told you, that rented the cars for the feds.

00:39:25.360 He actually ran Duncan Aviation as the executive vice president and COO for 22 years.

00:39:33.000 Now, he did retire.

00:39:34.680 He retired in 2019.

00:39:37.340 There's just a lot of connections here that I think should be explored more about the Farnsworth family and the Boyer family.

00:39:43.860 And I want to put this out here because something just, like I said, rubbed me the wrong way when I spoke to Terrell.

00:39:52.240 And I can't let that feeling go.

00:39:53.440 So, I think that Terrell knows more.

00:39:57.260 Yeah, that was my vibe when I got off of the phone.

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00:43:18.020 All right, you guys.

00:43:18.900 So yesterday, we didn't really break the story.

00:43:21.320 We just were kind of responding, I guess.

00:43:23.560 We were very confused.

00:43:25.200 Normally, we do this show at 4 p.m. Eastern, and it looked like The Daily Wire was teasing

00:43:31.500 something on my channels, which they brought back, and then they released stuff on my old

00:43:35.960 Instagram channels.

00:43:37.380 And I guess it was supposed to be like a clever way of, I don't know.

00:43:40.340 I actually don't know at all what they were thinking, but it got them some attention.

00:43:46.020 And then we were able to very quickly determine, because the tips box is just absolutely savage,

00:43:52.320 that what's been in the works is that Daily Wire has been casting people for a show that's

00:43:58.780 designed specifically to make fun of me and also Tucker Carlson.

00:44:02.600 Now, in general, I would say The Daily Wire has been in a casting rut trying to find the

00:44:09.300 new Brett Cooper probably for well over a year now.

00:44:12.760 It's not easy to find raw talent like that.

00:44:14.940 And I think really, at long last, they found someone that they think might work, except

00:44:22.360 rather than being bubbly and kind, the idea is she's going to be a bit manic over the top. 1.00

00:44:27.600 And of course, a little bit bitchy and mean, right? 1.00

00:44:31.120 Because if you're noticing, that's kind of the new Zionist bent, sort of this. 0.69

00:44:35.300 And we've shown new clips in the show, like, you can't sit with us.

00:44:37.760 We're cool.

00:44:38.340 Like, you're broke if you don't like what we do.

00:44:40.220 And we're hot.

00:44:41.540 And you're not.

00:44:42.320 Like, you know, the Hampton Summit.

00:44:43.740 And they're, like, talking about how much money they have.

00:44:45.860 Another brilliant PR ploy from a country that's mass murdering innocent children. 0.73

00:44:51.060 Like, you can't sit with us.

00:44:52.580 Never occurs with them that we just don't want to sit with them.

00:44:55.360 And that's kind of the whole point of what we're doing.

00:44:57.640 Anyway, before Maddie, they apparently tried out other people for this role.

00:45:02.300 They had considered a show, putting together a show that would make fun of me and Tucker

00:45:07.400 Carlson.

00:45:07.980 They tossed around three other people.

00:45:10.360 They even considered doing a combination show with the person who had played the bailiff

00:45:16.220 on Matt Walsh's Judged.

00:45:18.000 And that didn't end up, that didn't wind up panning out.

00:45:21.320 Now, Maddie was then landed upon.

00:45:24.360 And they decided, because we're really going to stick it to Candice, we're going to have

00:45:28.380 her name the show in the no-no. 0.98

00:45:31.720 Haha, get it?

00:45:32.920 Candice says, we don't know what we know.

00:45:34.440 Ben's on stage saying, that expression is what Tor did.

00:45:36.920 And now we're just going to bring this show to life and give it sort of a Nickelodeon,

00:45:45.260 iCarly vibe.

00:45:46.560 But it's the Daily Wire.

00:45:47.900 But they don't have a kids' department anymore.

00:45:49.620 But this kind of feels like Nickelodeon.

00:45:51.440 But it's iCarly meets politics, which is just kind of wrong.

00:45:55.100 And the idea is we're going to take Candice Clips out of context to make it seem weird.

00:46:00.000 And I'm going to show you it.

00:46:00.960 I'm going to show you guys so you can see it.

00:46:03.880 To tee this clip up, she is going to really dramatize me discussing the history of Utah's

00:46:13.140 state flag.

00:46:14.400 Now, I don't know if I'm getting old.

00:46:15.920 I am, actually.

00:46:16.880 I do know I'm getting old.

00:46:18.080 In my ripe old age, I'm interested in history.

00:46:20.340 I'm interested in learning about flags and the history of their beehive flag is what I

00:46:26.320 presented on my show.

00:46:28.000 And Maddie, in the no-no, is really going to mock me. 0.94

00:46:32.340 So let's take a look at it.

00:46:34.700 The idea that the Utah state flag is a hexagonal beehive.

00:46:41.460 All right, let's try this.

00:46:43.320 Let's really try this, okay?

00:46:46.440 Chronologically.

00:46:47.680 Utah adopts the beehive symbol in 1948.

00:46:51.280 Fast forward 175 years later.

00:46:54.620 People start using bee language as codes.

00:46:59.920 And I communicate with them by dancing.

00:47:02.240 People that use the code, they're clearly communists because communists work together.

00:47:07.740 They follow a hive mind.

00:47:09.420 Yes, queen.

00:47:10.520 Underground.

00:47:11.420 Communists.

00:47:12.520 Mormons live in Utah. 0.98

00:47:14.020 I watched The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. 0.67

00:47:15.900 Yes, I know what's going on here.

00:47:17.180 They've always been known as the beehive state.

00:47:18.860 And to be clear, it's not because they make honey.

00:47:20.800 It's not because they have a high presence of bees.

00:47:22.360 In fact, in terms of making honey or bee-related products, they rank number 24.

00:47:28.000 It's actually the beehive state.

00:47:30.040 It relates to the Mormon church, the Church of Latter-day Saints.

00:47:35.560 Early Mormon pioneers founded that state.

00:47:38.000 And they liked the idea of a beehive working toward a common good.

00:47:43.560 Now, if that sounds vaguely familiar or communist to you, the idea of worker bees, yes, that's

00:47:49.340 where it's from.

00:47:50.140 Did the Mormons know that the bees were commies in 1948?

00:47:53.840 Did anybody watch that South Park episode?

00:47:56.040 You know what?

00:47:56.580 None of this matters.

00:47:57.860 Let's get to her conclusion.

00:48:00.040 It's really good.

00:48:07.260 It's really good.

00:48:08.640 It's really sweet.

00:48:10.060 So funny.

00:48:11.040 It's like very original.

00:48:14.580 Very, I would say she's clever as a fox. 1.00

00:48:17.700 Plus teach her why we use that particular simile. 0.97

00:48:20.800 But I can tell that facts about animal symbolism and history are obviously not her thing.

00:48:25.280 So I guess the idea is Candace is discussing the state flag and she's using that.

00:48:30.040 As proof that Charlie was murdered or something.

00:48:33.960 And it's interesting.

00:48:35.700 It's a vibe.

00:48:36.580 Anyway, I wanted to show you that because the Daily Wire continues to exhibit stalker vibes.

00:48:44.220 This is not normal.

00:48:44.980 I am now telling people that Ben Shapiro is my psycho ex-boyfriend because that's what this feels like.

00:48:50.640 None of this is normal.

00:48:51.680 We don't have to pretend this is normal.

00:48:53.680 Nothing that has happened since I have left that company is normal.

00:48:56.060 Not how I left the company.

00:48:58.080 Not the glorious town hall. 0.95

00:48:59.900 Slave hanging.

00:49:01.220 Teach everybody a lesson. 1.00

00:49:02.700 It's psycho ex-boyfriend.

00:49:03.880 It's the ex-boyfriend that breaks up with you.

00:49:07.920 Blasts a message to all of your friends.

00:49:10.400 Says, come look. 0.98

00:49:11.140 Here's why I did it. 0.93

00:49:11.800 Here's why I hate her. 0.99

00:49:13.740 And you're like, okay.

00:49:14.520 I guess this is over.

00:49:15.880 That's fine.

00:49:16.340 I'm going to move on in my life.

00:49:17.160 And then you try to move on in your life.

00:49:18.400 And like he's sliding into the DMs of everybody saying you can't deal with.

00:49:22.440 Don't speak to her.

00:49:23.220 She's terrible. 1.00

00:49:24.640 I'm going to smear her. 0.99

00:49:25.420 I'm going to tell you what she is. 1.00

00:49:26.760 I hate her. 0.99

00:49:28.080 And it's like, okay, fine. 0.95

00:49:29.060 That's okay.

00:49:30.560 I'm happy to move on in my life.

00:49:32.820 I'm going to sue you.

00:49:34.020 I get everything.

00:49:35.740 The apartment we share, the car, you're going to leave.

00:49:37.740 You're going to have nothing.

00:49:38.600 Okay, that's fine.

00:49:39.560 Take it.

00:49:40.200 I'd like to just move on in my life.

00:49:42.880 I'm going to sue you again because I'm upset about something else.

00:49:47.880 Okay, fine.

00:49:49.420 I would really just like to move on and close this chapter in my life.

00:49:53.920 Then all of a sudden, he's like jumping onto stages. 0.93

00:49:59.800 And talking trash about me.

00:50:01.260 He sees I moved on. 0.89

00:50:02.340 I'm like, okay, I'm just doing my own show here.

00:50:05.980 You don't know.

00:50:06.800 No, but you know, like, why do you care?

00:50:09.240 Are you good?

00:50:11.280 Are you good?

00:50:12.080 Can you move on in your like, you're designing shows after me?

00:50:15.960 This is not normal.

00:50:17.300 This is not how employers are supposed to behave.

00:50:21.700 I'm being so serious.

00:50:22.960 There's something about it that's like, and parking aside, Maddie, she's just the latest pawn.

00:50:27.480 They just got to find someone who really desperately wants to be famous, stands on a couch.

00:50:31.040 Okay, whatever.

00:50:31.880 Thinks she's going to be the next it girl. 0.73

00:50:33.120 That's fine.

00:50:34.220 There's nothing to do with her, actually.

00:50:35.840 I hope it works out for her.

00:50:37.780 I am speaking about an employer that can't move on.

00:50:43.060 This is not, this feels dangerous to me.

00:50:46.340 Like, we're getting to a stage of obsession that is dangerous.

00:50:49.540 You have to go create a show that's interesting and compelling that people want to watch that's not based off of somebody that you fired because you didn't want them anymore.

00:50:59.600 That doesn't, that doesn't track with the public.

00:51:01.840 Like, I just feel like this is getting very creepy and it's making me uncomfortable.

00:51:07.000 And there should, in fact, be laws to prevent this from happening.

00:51:10.160 There just should be laws that prevent employers from sending interns to stalk you at events, from trying to get you canceled from speaking events, for buying your friends.

00:51:20.800 Like, oh, that's the next step of the crazy ex-boyfriend.

00:51:23.880 I'm going to reach out to everybody you know and offer them money.

00:51:28.160 Yeah, I'm going to pretend I was Charlie's friend.

00:51:29.480 What are you doing?

00:51:30.220 Why?

00:51:30.660 Why are you doing this?

00:51:31.540 Why are you so inside of my life?

00:51:34.880 Please, just move on.

00:51:36.140 This is not mentally healthy for you, Ben.

00:51:39.280 I want you to be better.

00:51:41.700 I want you to get better.

00:51:43.200 Seriously.

00:51:44.240 Move on in your life.

00:51:45.160 It's okay.

00:51:46.280 Let go of people that disagree with you.

00:51:47.980 It's okay.

00:51:49.140 Also, leave Megyn Kelly alone because I see you're eyeing her, too, in a weird way. 0.98

00:51:52.420 You seem to be gunning for her now.

00:51:54.460 Let it go.

00:51:56.060 This is not healthy, and I'm asking you to leave this alone in 20, 20, 26.

00:52:01.060 Go do a show that's based off of that girl's talent and something that's interesting, and don't just use her like a pawn. 0.98

00:52:07.660 That's what I would say.

00:52:08.760 Anyway, so if you guys want to know the no-no, no-no, head over to the Daily Wire, support Maddie.

00:52:15.820 The show's going to be great.

00:52:17.080 Or you could just watch my show.

00:52:18.320 And we can keep talking about state flags, actually, because then I got more interested in more state flags.

00:52:25.540 Never mind.

00:52:26.120 I'm not going to tell you about the Pelicans and Louisiana, but we were looking into that, and it's kind of interesting to learn about the Pelican on the flag of Louisiana's state flag.

00:52:34.020 Moving on, you guys, to other psychopathic things that are happening.

00:52:39.500 I did not realize that Brigitte McCrone is having those people who retweeted things that she deems to be harassing the truth.

00:52:51.660 Brigitte McCrone believes the truth about his gender is a form of harassment. 0.99

00:52:56.780 This is very chilling.

00:52:58.240 They are sentencing these people to jail.

00:53:01.980 I did not realize that.

00:53:03.000 I thought this was like just the fine.

00:53:04.800 I think I read it too quickly.

00:53:06.300 I thought it said, oh, it's $10,000 fine.

00:53:08.120 No.

00:53:09.140 Eight men and two women between the ages of 41 and 65, okay, who she is accusing have harassed me.

00:53:19.600 It's harassed my family.

00:53:20.940 My family's testifying.

00:53:21.960 It doesn't matter whether or not I did these things to Emmanuel when he was 14.

00:53:26.460 It doesn't actually matter.

00:53:27.260 What matters is that you're hurting my feelings, bringing them up.

00:53:29.680 You could just imagine this argument in court. 1.00

00:53:31.840 Like if Jeffrey Dahmer was alive and you're like tweeting at Jeffrey Dahmer and you're like you're a sick cannibal pedophile. 0.99

00:53:38.660 And then he's like, that actually doesn't matter because you hurt my feelings. 0.99

00:53:42.240 That's really mean.

00:53:43.180 I don't want you.

00:53:43.680 That's that's harassment.

00:53:44.720 You can't just call me those things.

00:53:47.100 That's the vibe of what's going on in France right now.

00:53:49.020 It doesn't matter if it's true.

00:53:50.400 It matters if it hurt Brigitte's feelings.

00:53:52.640 And so what has happened here is that they testified that these tweets were malicious.

00:54:02.280 They were degrading.

00:54:03.180 They were, quote, insulting.

00:54:04.940 They were intentionally harmful to Brigitte.

00:54:08.140 And of the 10 defendants, eight were given suspended sentences between four to eight months.

00:54:15.880 And the ninth was sentenced to six months in jail because that person just didn't even attend the hearing.

00:54:20.700 That's what's happening right now in France, okay?

00:54:24.900 Three of the individuals were described as the instigators.

00:54:27.920 And they were then ordered to have their social media accounts suspended for six months.

00:54:34.860 Retweets.

00:54:36.420 She feels harassed by the truth.

00:54:38.060 You can harass people with the truth now.

00:54:41.820 And to be clear, all of them were ordered to attend an online course regarding hate speech.

00:54:48.080 Hate speech can also be true speech.

00:54:51.460 If they just feel, if they hate it, that's it.

00:54:54.920 And they have to collectively pay Brigitte Macron what's known as moral damages, around $12,000.

00:55:03.840 Moral damages.

00:55:06.120 I am telling you that because you need to fully compute what they want to do here, okay?

00:55:12.620 That's the purpose of this lawsuit against me, never-before-seen lawsuit against me,

00:55:16.660 is that evil people are getting caught doing evil things.

00:55:20.260 And those evil people still have enough power to pass through legislation and to establish new laws

00:55:27.440 to make it so that they never get caught again.

00:55:30.340 Or even when they do get caught, you have to shut up about it.

00:55:33.320 This lawsuit that Brigitte has brought against me matters deeply.

00:55:37.500 I am telling you guys, this lawsuit, everyone should be paying attention to every single filing

00:55:44.420 pertaining to this lawsuit in Delaware, a place where I'm pretty sure France has been running 1.00

00:55:50.180 the game since the Revolutionary War, because I believe that the feds are colluding because

00:55:55.460 they want to introduce new speech laws in this country and make people fearful to tell the

00:55:59.760 truth about the things that they have actually done.

00:56:02.020 Wild.

00:56:03.620 I just felt like I needed to fully present to you what was actually happening in France.

00:56:08.520 Prison.

00:56:09.900 65-year-old person.

00:56:12.300 Maybe they just retweeted.

00:56:13.400 Who knows?

00:56:13.740 We have to get into the documentation.

00:56:15.840 But this is not defamation.

00:56:18.020 She's not making the argument that these things are untrue.

00:56:20.660 She's making the argument that her feelings are hurt because you know that she was born with 1.00

00:56:26.660 a penis. 1.00

00:56:28.260 Wild times, guys. 1.00

00:56:29.220 We will be right back after a brief break.

00:56:32.500 All right, guys.

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00:58:09.780 Top comment from yesterday's episode is from Lori Galio.

00:58:12.680 She writes, having that tent at AmFest as a carnival attraction would be like having the

00:58:17.280 limo that John Kennedy was shot in for a photo op. 0.91

00:58:19.880 It is totally disgusting. 0.85

00:58:21.200 I am in total agreement with you.

00:58:22.920 I cannot believe it was not stopped on any level.

00:58:25.140 It is just it's distasteful.

00:58:27.860 And we have every right to feel the ick, I think, that we that most people feel most of

00:58:32.760 the human beings feel not the Sentinel, obviously.

00:58:35.080 That's wrong.

00:58:35.540 There's a thousand ways you can honor Charlie.

00:58:37.320 Stop telling us that it has to always be a Miss Macabur.

00:58:39.320 We're like, we have to have the bloody Mike and we have it's like we don't actually have 0.54

00:58:43.340 to have any of that.

00:58:45.820 You can just speak about him and say what he means to you like I did.

00:58:49.580 I actually just told stories about Charlie Kirk.

00:58:53.180 And yeah, that felt pretty honorific.

00:58:55.620 I didn't I don't need blood.

00:58:57.460 There's something about it that feels like a seance at all times.

00:59:00.260 And I don't like it.

00:59:01.580 I don't like it at all.

00:59:02.340 And many people at home don't like it either.

00:59:04.800 OK, let's get into the comments that are coming in right now.

00:59:09.360 Jojo writes, Christ is king.

00:59:10.740 Thank you for that donation.

00:59:12.020 Brendan writes, happy feast of the epiphany.

00:59:14.720 Keep up the great work.

00:59:16.280 That's not today.

00:59:17.000 Wasn't that on last week?

00:59:19.000 That was last week, right?

00:59:20.040 Feast of the epiphany.

00:59:21.080 I think I'm right.

00:59:23.740 Is today a holy day of obligation, Chris?

00:59:28.940 It's not a holy day.

00:59:32.160 OK, got me, Brendan.

00:59:33.900 You got me.

00:59:34.220 I didn't know that.

00:59:35.140 Angelina writes, oh, we are so back.

00:59:36.900 By the way, the answer was that it's not a holy day of obligation in case you guys couldn't

00:59:39.920 hear them.

00:59:40.640 Business writes, Candace, I adore you.

00:59:42.300 My children watch you with me as well.

00:59:44.120 My 28 month old claps when she sees you on TV.

00:59:46.740 Thank you for being our voice.

00:59:48.560 You are often in my prayers.

00:59:49.720 Stay safe.

00:59:50.300 Christ is king.

00:59:51.100 Thank you so much.

00:59:51.720 That's such a sweet comment.

00:59:53.240 Emily Sullivan writes, keep digging, Candace, praying that your platform continues to grow.

00:59:57.040 I feel as though the Lord has laid on my heart to tell you that all that you are uncovering

01:00:01.540 is to open eyes and bring people to Christ.

01:00:04.180 Use it for the kingdom.

01:00:05.860 Of course, absolutely.

01:00:07.180 And I have to say that it's been it's just been so heavy.

01:00:10.140 I feel better this year, obviously, than I felt last year.

01:00:13.760 But it is just that Tim Dillon dark comedic skit where you just go, what is happening?

01:00:20.660 Has this world always been this way?

01:00:22.280 OK, it has.

01:00:23.400 And I think a lot of people want answers like, what is the next step?

01:00:26.340 And I don't know.

01:00:27.100 I don't have an answer other than committing ourselves to truth.

01:00:31.320 Unapologetically, we have to grow louder.

01:00:32.780 They want us to become more silent.

01:00:34.340 We have to expose them.

01:00:36.080 That's what Brigitte is doing.

01:00:37.720 It's like, we'll bankrupt you. 1.00

01:00:39.180 We'll kill you. 1.00

01:00:40.440 We'll do whatever it is to shut you up. 1.00

01:00:43.460 And they want us to be fearful.

01:00:45.360 And I think that we just have to continue to say, you know what?

01:00:49.800 The truth matters and the truth is enough.

01:00:52.160 And that's why I always say, if you're wondering what you can do, I do believe that the frequency

01:00:56.960 of truth hits harder.

01:00:58.420 And repeating the truth and saying the truth and not being fearful is a part of it.

01:01:03.060 It's a part of how we've been thus far able to expose so much.

01:01:08.440 I think that that's accurate.

01:01:10.320 Drew Kass writes, or Drew Case writes, you mentioned having Barron on your podcast.

01:01:14.760 When is that going to happen?

01:01:15.620 Both of your thoughts together will break the internet.

01:01:17.560 You both are so close.

01:01:18.760 God bless and stay focused.

01:01:19.860 Yeah, I reached out to him and we are going to make that happen.

01:01:22.400 When?

01:01:22.800 I don't know.

01:01:23.480 It will likely be on a Friday.

01:01:25.160 Speaking of which, by the way, Friday we are going to do, because I was like, why do

01:01:28.000 a book club on Tuesday and then Friday?

01:01:29.360 Let's just do an extra long one on Friday since we won't have an episode.

01:01:33.880 So instead, we will be doing our book club on Friday for two hours as we finish the book,

01:01:40.260 Sigmund Freud and the Jewish Mystical Tradition.

01:01:42.600 So you can at any time sign up for the book club, CandiceOwens.com.

01:01:47.560 Drew, I hope I answered your question.

01:01:49.460 Did I actually answer your question?

01:01:50.440 Yes, Barron Coleman.

01:01:51.540 So we are in conversation and hopefully that will happen on a different Friday.

01:01:57.220 Humble Beginnings writes, I know that they have terrorized you, but I wouldn't let Ben

01:02:01.380 Shapiro rent space in your head. 0.97

01:02:02.820 Just keep moving forward.

01:02:03.840 We are building, right?

01:02:04.740 It's not about whether or not this isn't about winning or losing.

01:02:09.060 It just needs to stop.

01:02:10.060 Like, I can't explain to you.

01:02:11.080 It's getting there's something about it to me that just is starting to feel dangerous.

01:02:15.020 It's like there's an obsession here.

01:02:16.960 There's an obsession with me that is happening and I would like it to stop.

01:02:21.380 That's it.

01:02:22.340 It's not about whether I've moved on.

01:02:24.120 I've said, OK, OK, you can't hang out with me.

01:02:26.340 OK, you can't go speak here.

01:02:27.520 OK, you can't whatever I'm going to do.

01:02:29.780 OK, cool.

01:02:31.200 Thumbs up.

01:02:32.700 I'm going to have this.

01:02:33.320 OK, cool.

01:02:34.840 I would just like to move on in my life.

01:02:37.480 I would like you to just leave me alone.

01:02:40.200 There's something about it that feels parasitic.

01:02:42.600 And I'm asking for it to stop.

01:02:44.580 I am.

01:02:45.340 And I hope that that is enough.

01:02:47.480 I hope that me saying that we it's been it's two years.

01:02:51.960 OK, you just you have to get over a past relationship sooner than two years for your own mental health

01:02:58.100 beyond anything else.

01:02:59.360 I just want it to stop and maybe it won't.

01:03:01.740 But I do think that employers doing this should not be acceptable.

01:03:08.180 Like under the law, it should not be acceptable.

01:03:09.860 You should just be allowed to be fired is what I would say.

01:03:14.580 Jamie Paul Lucci writes, and I also want to add just before I answer this last thing,

01:03:18.420 I also want to add that you don't even know like three percent of what I have gone through with them.

01:03:26.760 Because I have tried to be above board.

01:03:29.500 I have tried to handle it in the best way possible.

01:03:32.300 And like I said, my perspective on it was always we are Christians.

01:03:35.500 And so we need to not be reciprocal.

01:03:38.920 We can't be mean spirited.

01:03:40.040 I mean, you see we have limited our discussions of the Daily Wire at all on the show.

01:03:44.460 And I'm doing series on Kamala and Brigitte McCrone and things I'm interested in,

01:03:50.920 like things that actually interest me, focusing on what I want to build.

01:03:54.140 And that is not happening there.

01:03:56.340 I don't I don't know why that can't also happen there. 0.99

01:03:58.840 If you think my ideas suck.

01:04:01.520 You know, go invest in your ideas. 0.95

01:04:03.440 Why is your idea me?

01:04:04.600 Why is your ideas like destroying me?

01:04:07.440 I just don't get it.

01:04:08.340 I really don't understand it.

01:04:09.460 And I would I would like for it to stop.

01:04:11.160 We'll see what happens.

01:04:12.940 Jamie Powell Lucci writes, looking into Erica's mom's company, AZ Tech and E3 Tech, having contracts with the DOD for EMP hardening and the testing that is done at Fort Huachuca.

01:04:23.480 Yeah, I think that that's accurate.

01:04:25.660 And by the way, like I said, I don't think Erica ever denied that.

01:04:28.020 She's like on camera saying that she moved to Arizona because her mother got defense contracts.

01:04:33.480 Like she was her mother was working with the DOD.

01:04:34.840 So she's been very open about that.

01:04:36.120 And what would be interesting to know is if the Farnsworths secured those contracts for her originally when they first moved, like back in the early 2000s.

01:04:45.460 And I'm sure that will come up at some point.

01:04:47.820 Freethinker writes, Maddie in the no-no is a big no-no from me, fam.

01:04:51.600 Seriously, though, what even was that?

01:04:52.980 How embarrassing.

01:04:53.980 I have secondhand embarrassment so bad.

01:04:55.900 God bless and protect you forever, Candace.

01:04:58.120 And the last thing that I just want to say as a mother is get your feet off of the couch, Maddie. 1.00

01:05:02.160 Like I am so sick of people thinking they just jump up on a couch and put your feet up there.

01:05:06.160 That's what upset me the most about that.

01:05:07.720 Like do not stand on a couch.

01:05:09.560 No, you're not allowed to do that.

01:05:11.460 My grandma, my granddad would say that's a no-no.

01:05:13.840 So Maddie, that's where we're going to leave you in the no-no is that standing on furniture is a no-no.

01:05:20.980 Don't do that.

01:05:22.140 We'll see you guys tomorrow.

01:05:32.160 We'll see you guys tomorrow.

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