Candace Owens - BREAKING! The White House Attempted To Rescind This E-mail. ｜ Candace Ep 338

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00:00:30 All right, you guys. Happy Wednesday. Sorry we're running a few minutes late. We were doing a lot of fact-checking, and I think it will be well worth the wait because about that White House Correspondents' Dinner.

00:00:41 I gotta tell you guys, a very curious thing happened afterward. I've learned that the White House attempted to rescind an email that went out shortly after the shooting. Shooting.

00:00:56 And it was a communications email, which may go a long way in terms of explaining how that Erica Kirk moment went so viral.

00:01:04 And on that note, I also learned an interesting thing about Justin Strife, the COO.

00:01:10 He became the COO seven days before Charlie died of Turning Point USA.

00:01:14 And I've told you guys he's the person who allegedly phoned the mysterious Pierre on that day.

00:01:21 Well, not only did he make that rather suspicious phone call, but he also called someone else with an approval from Erika herself.

00:01:31 I will just say when you learn who else he called, you're just going to probably feel like I feel.

00:01:36 These people had some curious priorities that day, which seemed to center around making money.

00:01:42 I'll say that.

00:01:43 And across the pond over in France, Brigitte, I miss Brigitte, Brigitte and Emmanuel Macron have spun out a new explanation regarding that slap heard around the world. And I would say it's not that believable. Welcome back to Candace.

00:02:13 Well, well, well, my friends. Seek and you shall find. You shall find fakeness and you shall find

00:02:20 gayness everywhere. We are all living the Truman Show. So I'll just jump right to it. 1.00

00:02:27 Apparently, the White House military office sent out communications shortly after our alleged

00:02:34 shooting, right? I feel like Austin Powers, the shooting, you know, the one that took place

00:02:39 at the press correspondence dinner,

00:02:42 which then everyone started speaking about

00:02:44 how we needed a ballroom.

00:02:45 I will say right off the bat, of course,

00:02:47 it's not exactly weird

00:02:48 that they would want to coordinate messaging, right?

00:02:50 Just to be clear, because if indeed

00:02:52 the commander-in-chief's life was truly at risk,

00:02:55 the president, as well as the number two,

00:02:58 the Veep, also in the room, he gets taken out.

00:03:01 If they're both potentially in the line of fire,

00:03:05 then yes, it would absolutely be appropriate

00:03:06 for our military to be coordinating messaging with the nation, to the nation, about their safety.

00:03:13 Everyone's okay. This has been resolved. But something else happened. So to jog your memory,

00:03:20 the shooting took place at 8.36 p.m. Eastern. That's when the Secret Service began firing

00:03:29 at one another. So we've since learned. Then at 9.25 p.m., so a little under an hour later,

00:03:38 Sarah Seidner, you will recall of CNN, she became the first person on social media

00:03:45 to upload the now infamous I Want to Go Home video by Erica Kirk. And we can show you that

00:03:53 that's when she uploaded it. There is a tool where you can look at the metadata of Instagram posts.

00:03:58 She posted it onto Instagram. Here it is. In the corner there, it will tell you that she posted it at 1.25, and you are looking at Universal Time, okay? So 1.25 a.m. Universal Time, that is 9.25 p.m. Eastern Time, okay?

00:04:19 What happened next? Approximately 9.49 p.m., so less than 20 minutes later after that video went out, the White House military office sent out an updated communication.

00:04:34 Oddly, within that communication, they describe an amendment to the Erica Kirk video clip, okay?

00:04:43 The traction of which they were monitoring.

00:04:46 Now, I can get behind the military office wanting to communicate.

00:04:50 Don't quite understand why this moment would be something that they were monitoring and then sending out language about how they wanted this to be the focus of the evening.

00:05:00 That point seems to me to be a bit odd.

00:05:03 So I will say right here, the reason why we were running late is because I do not particularly like playing Trust Me Bro when it comes to the show.

00:05:10 I like to show you the evidence and we do have the email. We have the email chain. But I am going to have to spend some of my earned credit with you guys and not show you a copy of this email exactly because we were very quickly able to determine that the Department of Defense is using what is known as a canary tactic to root out would be leakers. Right.

00:05:31 So I think I've told you about this is shortly after Charlie's assassination, they similarly implemented this at Turning Point USA.

00:05:38 What this means is that the IT departments are able to implement a strategy so that when they send out emails to everyone, you know, just going to send out a mass email, they are able to issue these slight variations to everyone's email.

00:05:53 So the word might be different. The time might be different. Barely noticeable watermarks throughout the email. Intentional typos. They can use AI programs that will do this so that every email that goes out is slightly differentiated and it helps them identify immediately the source of a leak.

00:06:11 smart for our military to be using that. But obviously, we sat here and we're like,

00:06:16 we can't share this publicly because they will be able to determine exactly who sent around this

00:06:23 email and people could lose their jobs. But to prove to you that I am not lying, I can give you

00:06:27 a few of the names of the people that were copied on this email. Stephen Chung was copied on the

00:06:33 email. Ryan Ripien was copied on the email, and a gentleman named Gustav Anderle was copied on

00:06:44 the email. I actually do, while I'm here, want to remember the title of Gustav Anderle, because

00:06:49 these are people that I wouldn't even know. He is the White House Communications Agency,

00:06:55 and it looks like it just says he's the Information Systems Manager at the White House Communications

00:07:02 agency in Arlington, Virginia. So these people all have access to the email. Feel free to not

00:07:08 trust me, bro, and to go ask the press if I'm telling the truth. You can just do that. That's

00:07:13 easy. Anyway, I'm now going to read you the relevant portion of this email pertaining to

00:07:18 Erica Kirk. Fascinating. Remember, everyone was gaslighting us and saying that this was totally

00:07:22 just organic. And no, they weren't asking people to boost this clip for any particular reason.

00:07:28 It reads, amendment to the Erika Kirk video clip, the video clip of Erika Kirk leaving the ballroom area and stating, quote, I just want to go home is driving our highest organic engagement of all incident related content across platforms.

00:07:47 platforms. The current assessment of that digital item is that it has generated the strongest

00:07:54 emotional response. It is our strongest emotional response asset associated with the incident.

00:07:59 It has high cross-ideological circulation. So whether you're on the left or the right,

00:08:06 wherever you stand, we're seeing this clip. That's good for us. It has elevated repost

00:08:13 velocity amongst political commentary accounts, increasing the use as a symbolic framing device

00:08:21 regarding media conduct and national stability narratives. Our recommendation forward is that

00:08:29 all communication channels should amplify this clip further, coordinate with digital partners

00:08:37 and our approved surrogates

00:08:40 to elevate the reach

00:08:42 and ensure dominant placement

00:08:45 in the overnight information environment.

00:08:50 The most viral engagement

00:08:52 presently centered around

00:08:53 the attendee reaction clip

00:08:54 now is circulating

00:08:56 across all platforms broadly.

00:09:00 Wow.

00:09:01 We want that to be

00:09:02 number one amplified overnight

00:09:04 in the information environment

00:09:07 at our military office. I just, I don't know. I just feel like this would not be the number one

00:09:14 priority of these individuals in an environment where you don't have any answers. Again, I'm

00:09:20 telling you, this is 9.49 p.m. This is a little over an hour after the shooting took place. Very

00:09:28 little answers. A few things were known about who is this guy? Has he been arrested? Is there a

00:09:36 Are there more shooters?

00:09:39 No, this is giving us a good emotional response,

00:09:43 and we need to now reach out to our surrogates,

00:09:46 approved surrogates,

00:09:47 and get this amplified and circulated

00:09:51 across all platforms we want to see.

00:09:54 But by tomorrow morning, this is number one.

00:09:58 It's incredible.

00:10:00 That is absolutely incredible.

00:10:04 Now, as we know, like this would be number one.

00:10:07 It was something that we all said, that's kind of weird.

00:10:09 Why is this the focus point?

00:10:11 Who recorded this video?

00:10:12 Who was passing around?

00:10:13 I told you I am told that this was not a video recorded by Sarah Seidner

00:10:19 and that instead it was distributed to Sarah Seidner

00:10:22 and that they had operatives record that moment.

00:10:27 Does that make any sense to you guys?

00:10:28 now in case you are thinking well it's possible that this just keeps happening to erica kirk

00:10:36 right she's just being used she just wants to go home this terrible thing has happened

00:10:41 and these snakes are the guarded at the white house they're just using her against her will

00:10:47 i would like to strongly caution you particularly you blakey neff what are we 41 days in

00:10:53 um i'd caution you against making that argument because i'm working on a background lead and it

00:11:00 just won't be good for you so just be quiet okay probably we'll have that for you tomorrow

00:11:06 anyway what happens next now if you're thinking okay well maybe that's normal is that the white

00:11:12 house completely panics because too many people were on this email okay they just made a bit of

00:11:17 a blunder the i guess you could say the white house military office uh uh panicked and they

00:11:22 attempted to resend the email. This is also a plausibility. You can get your IT person if you

00:11:28 make a mistake and send to the wrong person. They can reach in and literally take the email out of

00:11:34 everyone's inbox. But for some reason that did not work or it worked too late. I don't know what the

00:11:40 issue is. But it did not resolve the issue. They then panicked even further, I am told, and sent

00:11:48 out multiple emails instructing the people that were on that email that they absolutely had to

00:11:54 delete it. Okay, it was an order. You have to delete this. No questions asked. There'll be

00:12:01 conversations about this. We need to make sure that you have this deleted. And then they brought

00:12:06 in more IT to get involved to deal with this blunder. Now, there are other parts of this email

00:12:11 Now, I've read there is nothing else here that would stand out as needing to become a White House internal emergency to get something deleted.

00:12:21 OK. First part is talking about approved message emphasized. The president is secured. The VP is secured. Everyone's you know, they're good. That's that's not problematic.

00:12:34 They say that there's no credible, there's no foreign threats.

00:12:39 We're going to make sure we monitor any misinformation that's on the platform.

00:12:42 That makes sense to me.

00:12:43 They also want to, well, they want to monitor adversarial state media framing to make sure that, you know, other states are not lying about what's happening and saying things.

00:13:01 They want to monitor that activity.

00:13:01 That all makes sense.

00:13:03 The Erica Kirk video, asking to amplify that, make sure that's number one by morning time, that's the part that stands out in this email.

00:13:13 Why would that be a focus, again, just a little over an hour after the VP and the president are taken somewhere secure because there's a potential shooting?

00:13:26 i want you to think about that and like i said we'll have more information about that and

00:13:31 just put you just keep patting ourselves on the back for the fact that they keep trying to gaslight

00:13:36 us and to pretend that we are not living in an embarrassing movie um and that they are not all

00:13:43 just a bunch of clowns and characters uh trying to gin up our emotions uh to sway us one way or

00:13:50 the other and particularly over the last eight months it's just been like you need to feel bad 0.52

00:13:54 for Erica Kirk. That's kind of been a focus of the White House. Of the White House. There is an 0.80

00:14:00 unnatural alliance here between Turning Point USA and the White House. It's too much. It's feeling

00:14:07 a bit squishy in here. Which brings me to something else that I discovered, okay? Let's just play a

00:14:13 multiple choice game for people who have common sense. If you don't have common sense, don't play

00:14:16 this game. This game is not for you, okay? It's September 10th, 2025. Your company founder and

00:14:24 your boss is tragically assassinated in front of the entire world. And there's a video of him

00:14:29 dying, actually, that is being spread across social media like wildfire. Do you on this very day,

00:14:38 A, tweet something out about Trump needing a ballroom? B, phone Charlie's grieving widow

00:14:47 and proposition her about how money can be made?

00:14:51 C, call a mysterious billionaire named Pierre?

00:14:55 Or D, none of the above?

00:14:59 Now, if you answered D, none of the above,

00:15:01 then congratulations to you.

00:15:02 You are a winner.

00:15:03 You are not a robot.

00:15:05 You know those little tests?

00:15:05 You are not a robot.

00:15:07 Congratulations.

00:15:08 You had one of those CAPTCHA tests.

00:15:11 By the way, in case you're like me and the team

00:15:13 and never actually knew what CAPTCHA meant or stood for,

00:15:17 We learned today that it stands for Completely Automated Public Turing Test to tell computers and humans apart.

00:15:25 I'd like to, I think just more broadly speaking, we need to be able to tell if these computers versus humans,

00:15:29 because I think the droids are amongst us.

00:15:32 But anyway, if you did pass our multiple choice test, and if you are not a robot, and you said none of the above, that's a win.

00:15:37 Of course, if you were Justin Strife, you probably picked both B and C.

00:15:42 Because we learned another totally wacky story from our tips line that we were able to verify because they provided receipts.

00:15:51 But Justin Strife, just to jog your memory here, he is the chief operating officer of Turning Point USA.

00:15:58 That's a new position to which he was promoted just seven days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

00:16:03 He was, as you will recall, also the person that Erica brought with her for our four-hour sit-down meeting.

00:16:08 So we can surmise from that that there is some trust between the two.

00:16:13 I remember that I had specifically asked Justin Strife about that audit at Turning Point USA,

00:16:21 the audit that Charlie announced at the same time that he promoted Justin.

00:16:25 Remember, that was one email before they were starting the Canary email process.

00:16:30 We had scooped that and I was like, oh, that's interesting.

00:16:33 Does this mean that Charlie trusted Justin because he was looking for money?

00:16:36 And I explained to Justin that I had heard at first what was an outside rumor, someone outside of the organization that Charlie knew in a personal capacity, told me that Charlie opened up to him and said that $10 million was missing from his organization and that it wasn't Turning Point USA, but it was Turning Point Action and America's Turning Point, right?

00:17:00 That tip to me felt solid, but it was very difficult, given who gave the tip, but it was very difficult for me to trust an outsider's perspective, their word on the inner workings of the company.

00:17:13 But then, lo and behold, someone from within the company, within the organization, confirmed to me.

00:17:19 They said Justin was actually overheard on the phone yelling about missing money, that all of the money was missing from turning point action.

00:17:29 How curious.

00:17:30 Now, it's worth noting, I'll say allegedly,

00:17:33 but it's worth noting that Turning Point Action

00:17:37 is headed up by Tyler Boyer,

00:17:38 and we have already explained to you

00:17:40 that they have built that super feed backdoor

00:17:43 which pays Lori Frantzfey, Erica Kirk's mom.

00:17:47 So that would be interesting.

00:17:49 That's a compelling lead.

00:17:50 If I was the feds looking for things,

00:17:52 I would probably go,

00:17:53 wow, that could cause some friction in your marriage

00:17:55 if there was money missing,

00:17:57 If that pans out and that's true and Charlie discovered there was money missing and then he established this doge to audit himself internally, you know, not the accountant's auditing, which they tried to then say, oh, the accountant's audit every year.

00:18:10 No, this was not that.

00:18:12 He was establishing a doge.

00:18:14 I would consider that to be an interesting lead.

00:18:18 Did Charlie suddenly realize that money was evaporating out of his company?

00:18:22 I think he did.

00:18:23 My personal opinion, I'm going to stick to it.

00:18:25 But anyway, but what's fascinating in all the wrong ways is that we learned that on the day that Charlie died, Justin Strife made another phone call.

00:18:36 He allegedly, I'll say allegedly, called a former U.S. Army interrogator turned book printer.

00:18:46 And that's what Justin had on his mind.

00:18:48 He wanted to take care of ordering a boatload more of Charlie's upcoming book.

00:18:57 Let's get that to the printer.

00:19:00 Let's plan on ordering another tens of thousands more of Stop in the Name of God. 0.94

00:19:07 That's the book that Erica would then go on tour and promote.

00:19:10 They had previously prepared to put in an order, I think, of 25,000 to 50,000 books.

00:19:17 But just hours after Charlie died,

00:19:19 Justin Strife allegedly, apparently,

00:19:22 reached out to the printer and said that,

00:19:25 let's order some more books.

00:19:27 I'm going to ask Erica and I'll call you back,

00:19:30 but we're going to need to at least double that order.

00:19:34 And he allegedly did just that.

00:19:35 He reached out to Erica and got her permission.

00:19:38 And then he immediately circled back to the printing agency

00:19:41 and said, it's a go.

00:19:42 Erica says yes.

00:19:43 now you know i'm often told online particularly by zionists that i'm demonic i'm evil all these

00:19:55 things but i gotta tell you i could never imagine approaching a widow after what should have been a

00:20:00 shock murder i would imagine she'd be in a catatonic state right i just would imagine

00:20:07 there wouldn't even be a person to address.

00:20:10 I can never imagine thinking,

00:20:13 hey, I'm going to give her a call

00:20:14 and ask if we can get those books going.

00:20:18 And I'll circle right back.

00:20:20 I've considered a definite yes,

00:20:22 but I'm just going to call her real quick

00:20:22 and I'll circle back to you.

00:20:25 But as we've all learned throughout this series,

00:20:28 Erica is just different.

00:20:31 She was born for this role.

00:20:32 She really was.

00:20:33 She was able to just clearly and rationally

00:20:36 handle some business on the very day that Charlie was assassinated. And like I said to you,

00:20:42 those conversations even about her taking over the board and CEO, that happened early,

00:20:47 within 48 hours, that decision was made. She just had that clarity, didn't need time,

00:20:55 understood that that was her focus. Like, I will show you more books. And I will say what is

00:21:02 especially curious is that I then learned that Justin was reaching out in his other capacity.

00:21:10 He has a whole other job, a whole other full-time job that I had no idea about. He's not just the

00:21:15 CEO of Turning Point USA. I didn't know that you could be in the C-suite and have time to have

00:21:21 another full-time job, but Justin Strife does it. He's also running winning team publishing.

00:21:28 If that sounds familiar to you, that's that book publishing, conservative book publishing company that was started by Sergio Gore and Don Trump Jr.

00:21:40 Yeah, Sergio Gore.

00:21:41 That's a guy, Israel's guy, the Trump whisperer.

00:21:46 He was for a while.

00:21:49 Also, Ike Perlmutter's guy.

00:21:51 Everybody knows that.

00:21:52 Israel's guy, Sergio Gore.

00:21:55 Mysterious background.

00:21:56 but so a better way of saying that is that justin is also receiving money from winning team

00:22:03 publishing uh and would i would imagine stand to benefit greatly uh from high book sales that

00:22:11 seems a little bit too close for comfort to me don jr too i would imagine since he's the co-founder

00:22:16 of the company uh stood to benefit from those book sales sergio gore at the time of charlie's death

00:22:21 was the White House Deputy Chief of Staff.

00:22:25 And there was a lot of colluding between Charlie's office

00:22:28 and Sergio Gore's office at the White House.

00:22:31 They were sending even employees that were working for Charlie's office

00:22:34 were coming from Sergio Gore's office, vice versa.

00:22:37 That's what I've been told.

00:22:39 So in that capacity, as the White House Deputy Chief of Staff,

00:22:43 Sergio Gore was second in command to Susie Wiles.

00:22:46 But he was sort of unceremoniously kicked out, right?

00:22:50 They kind of made it seem like it was like, hey, he's being upgraded by being sent to India.

00:22:56 But the rumor, the down low that I can tell you is that there was apparently a bit of a bust up with Elon Musk.

00:23:02 OK, so Sergio Gore personally had it out for Elon Musk.

00:23:06 He didn't like him. I'm not taking sides.

00:23:08 I'm telling you the facts and the alleged facts.

00:23:13 And apparently when Elon Musk and Trump had this falling out, Sergio Gore, the Trump whisperer, was largely behind this falling out.

00:23:20 Or Elon assumed or thought that he was behind this. And Sergio Gore personally put a stop to Elon Musk's guy, Jared Isaacman, being appointed. Then somebody found out about Sergio Gore and another donor's son, some sort of a relationship, I was told. And there was a little bit of time for Sergio Gore to go before this blows up in the media.

00:23:46 and Sergio Gore then got moved to India as the ambassador.

00:23:50 He was sort of like randomly named the ambassador to India.

00:23:53 And you will recall that it was one of the more bizarre

00:23:56 post-assassination appearances

00:23:58 that was made by our Dr. Kirk.

00:24:01 Like she flew to Washington, D.C.,

00:24:03 so to the other side of the country,

00:24:05 leaving your kids in such an emotionally critical time.

00:24:08 You would not be able to wedge me away from my children

00:24:11 just to watch this guy, Sergio Gore,

00:24:13 be named ambassador to India.

00:24:15 Like, that could have been a text to Erica.

00:24:17 Hey, congrats, Serge.

00:24:19 Congrats, Charlie loved you.

00:24:20 So cool.

00:24:21 Wish I could have been there.

00:24:22 But, you know, my husband was just smarter.

00:24:24 So I'm going to stay here with my kids.

00:24:26 Like I said, Erica's different.

00:24:28 She's different.

00:24:28 She bounces back.

00:24:29 And she not only went there, but she said some words.

00:24:32 She shared some words with Sergio Gore as well.

00:24:34 And here's what she said.

00:24:36 Charlie loved you.

00:24:37 It's hard not to get emotional because I know that he would have been the first phone call

00:24:42 when he found out that you were going to be taking this position.

00:24:46 And the way that I was able to witness the two of you work together for years

00:24:51 and to champion and support the president was absolutely humbling to witness.

00:24:58 And I am so proud of you.

00:25:00 And Charlie is going to be with you every single day in spirit.

00:25:04 And I will be praying for you every day because I know that this is just the beginning

00:25:08 of an incredible opportunity for you.

00:25:10 And, sir, thank you for allowing Sergio to have this beautiful moment.

00:25:15 Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you to us.

00:25:18 And that man's watching over us right now, right?

00:25:22 OK.

00:25:27 Does that appearance rank like that?

00:25:30 Would that rank high for you for needing to do that, to just be there watching the president sign something for Sergio Gore to go to go to India?

00:25:36 I feel like these people know each other,

00:25:40 like really know each other.

00:25:42 We can't confirm they're making money with each other.

00:25:44 And it was a high priority

00:25:46 to think about that money being made on September 10th.

00:25:50 There just seems to be a lot of money flowing in and out.

00:25:54 Just Turning Point USA, the White House, Don Trump Jr.

00:25:58 We talked about Salem Media, just a lot going on here.

00:26:01 Justin Strife, how can you fulfill both roles?

00:26:03 Could it be a conflict of interest?

00:26:05 How about that?

00:26:06 Like, to become a chief, like, don't you check for conflicts or something?

00:26:09 I think it'd be a conflict of interest.

00:26:11 I wouldn't want that.

00:26:12 Anyway, it's worth mentioning that Charlie, when I examined these contacts and the money being made,

00:26:20 had he have gone full anti-Israel, it would have been costly to a lot of people.

00:26:27 To a lot of people, if Charlie had gone anti-Israel, I would say including his wife.

00:26:32 definitively a lot of his sponsors um so many of them uh had an israel bend and it just sort of

00:26:42 makes you wonder i'll leave it at that we'll be right back after a brief break all right you guys

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00:29:07 Okay, I have this very hilarious update for you.

00:29:10 First, I wanna read the top comment,

00:29:12 which I don't usually do at this time of the show,

00:29:14 but top comment from last episode.

00:29:16 This person, Ag Donetto writes,

00:29:18 I am Brazilian.

00:29:19 I got robbed in Sao Paulo a couple of years ago.

00:29:22 While tracking my phone, I told a high-ranking sergeant where it was, and he said the police

00:29:27 wouldn't go there because it was PCC's TERF, the gang that this Nick guy allegedly infiltrated. 1.00

00:29:33 But yeah, this gringo kid had no problem going there. 1.00

00:29:36 White the gang whisperer. 1.00

00:29:37 The comments that were coming from the Brazilians were absolutely exceptional because it's just, 1.00

00:29:41 it's so beyond absurd that you can't even like, there's nothing to do.

00:29:44 It's not even like, it's not even upsetting.

00:29:45 It's just, it's, it's just cartoonish.

00:29:47 It's cartoonish is what it is, right?

00:29:49 Cartoons don't accept you.

00:29:50 You know, they're fake.

00:29:50 You just kind of move on.

00:29:51 But Nick Shirley is really having a bit of a conniption.

00:29:56 He's having a little bit of a breakdown

00:29:58 about the fact that people don't believe

00:30:00 he has what it takes to infiltrate gangs,

00:30:02 the hardest gangs in Brazil in 48 hours

00:30:05 with a camera and a microphone

00:30:07 without any contacts or something.

00:30:10 And this correspondence between him,

00:30:14 it's just hilarious.

00:30:15 He thinks that we're locked in like a beef of the ages

00:30:18 or something, Biggie versus Tupac, right?

00:30:20 Like, like he's just he's so tough. He's tough enough, apparently, to infiltrate a gang in 48 hours, but he apparently cannot bear the criticism, totally fair and sensible idea that people who can think rationally and critically aren't buying this.

00:30:36 I'm sorry. It's nothing personal. It's just dumb.

00:30:40 So the Internet drunk Jessica Reed Krause, known as House and Drinking Habit, came to his aid. 0.99

00:30:46 Like that's what they do. They send out where they get real, real reinforcements come in. 0.99

00:30:49 And she tweeted this. I could not stop laughing. Two of Nick Shirley's elementary school teachers

00:30:55 reached out to me recently to praise Nick, recounting what a smart, sweet, kind kid he was

00:31:01 throughout his early years. If Candace's attacks on him don't raise your suspicions,

00:31:06 you were never rooting for any side. And then Nick responds. This is like, OK, here it is.

00:31:12 here's the proof that I can infiltrate gangs. He writes back this. That's amazing. To this day,

00:31:17 I still keep in touch with a few of my teachers on a regular basis. I had some great teachers

00:31:23 growing up. And then she takes it a step further and she says, these are the type of DMs I

00:31:29 occasionally receive from former teachers of Nick Shirley, glimpses into who he was long before we

00:31:34 all knew his name, a driven, thoughtful kid who showed up to help wherever he was needed. It's

00:31:40 why Candace Owens is targeting him now. Nick is wildly respected, wildly, widely respected,

00:31:45 pardon me, among conservative media, carrying forward what Charlie Kirk led with, proof that

00:31:50 you can build influence and make an impact without relying on crude rhetoric, shock tactics and

00:31:55 conflict. I can't believe this is coming from Jessica Reed. Instead of setting up in a sterile

00:32:00 studio, ranting about the state of the country, he's on the ground taking action, infiltrating

00:32:05 these scenes in 48 hours to uncover the corruption that the other media won't touch. And he's polite.

00:32:12 Lived experience lends itself to quality journalism. Truth overspin, something Candace is not capable

00:32:16 of. In the end, old school pursuit of truth will always outlive scripted trash talk. 1.00

00:32:23 Are you OK, Nick? Like, are you are we are not trying to get you into Harvard. We don't need

00:32:30 letters of recommendation from your kindergarten teacher about the fact that you sharpened your

00:32:36 pencil on your own and you learned cursive faster than the rest of the class. This is not what we

00:32:42 are talking about. Actually, we are specifically speaking about lived experience, people who don't

00:32:48 turn to journalists and reporters. It's not like a form of guerrilla journalism to go out there

00:32:55 and understand how people live

00:32:57 because they're living that way already.

00:32:59 Like, that's the point.

00:33:01 That's why it's funny.

00:33:02 That's why we think it's funny.

00:33:04 We're not, I'm sure you're a great kid.

00:33:07 I'm sure you were the best in first grade

00:33:09 and second grade too.

00:33:10 You're probably a really sweet kid.

00:33:11 I probably had adorable photos

00:33:13 and all the stuff and all the things.

00:33:15 This is just not at all relevant

00:33:18 to whether or not we believe

00:33:19 that you infiltrated the most dangerous gang

00:33:21 in Brazil in 48 hours, okay?

00:33:23 like i said which you took offense to oh i didn't know your family reunions were so tough candace

00:33:30 yeah um that's kind of the point you don't even comprehend that there are families that are so

00:33:36 dysfunctional that family events become dangerous after a certain hour like they're playing cards

00:33:41 throwing singles on the table you're not sure what's in the solo cup like yeah that's kind of

00:33:47 the point is that that seems crazy to you, like that people have dysfunctional families that you

00:33:53 kind of have a bunch of people that are left up in your family, but you still love them. It's like

00:33:56 a weird dynamic, you know, like they're your family, like they're a little left up, but like

00:34:00 they're your family. That's the point, Nick, is you're not accustomed to that. And those people

00:34:05 are the ones that are just laughing at the premise, right? Just like I said, just go through

00:34:09 the comments. You're not going to be able to sell it to people outside of like gated communities

00:34:14 who have, like I said, never been anywhere

00:34:16 and try to experience those things

00:34:18 through a TV screen or through a cute YouTube channel.

00:34:21 And that's great.

00:34:22 Like those people will fund you.

00:34:23 But for people who have lived a little,

00:34:26 it's just implausible.

00:34:28 That's all.

00:34:28 It's nothing personal.

00:34:30 You and I are not beefing.

00:34:32 I just, there's no letter of recommendation

00:34:34 from any grade of schooling

00:34:36 that is going to make me believe.

00:34:37 In fact, kind of the opposite.

00:34:40 The fact that your kindergarten teachers

00:34:41 are writing letters of recommendation

00:34:42 make me definitely believe that you didn't infiltrate a gang in 48 hours. I don't know.

00:34:47 It's just me. Not just me. Actually, it's a kind of everyone. Everyone who can think.

00:34:52 Anyway, I wanted to show you this, too, because I guess that everything is just so weird and fake 1.00

00:34:56 and gay all the time. And so we all recall, of course, the notorious slap heard around the world 1.00

00:35:02 Brigitte Macron. Massive hands. It's a thing. It's a like that's the one thing the doctor can't work

00:35:09 on, right? You can get a thousand things, feminization surgery. Look at, oh my gosh, 0.98

00:35:13 do it again. Let me see. Oh, oh. He's like those things at the gas station that like

00:35:20 kind of bounce back. I'm talking about the car wash, I mean, that kind of were like floating

00:35:26 like this. Anyway, he bounces back, pulls it together. I didn't expect Sky News to capture

00:35:30 that. And then they started rolling out the excuses of what happened. And first they said

00:35:34 it did nothing happened. And then they said they were just joking around. That's what they do.

00:35:39 They sort of just wrestle. 0.97

00:35:41 Now they're rolling out a new excuse because they're realizing, OK, that was a little ridiculous.

00:35:46 What can we say to back that up and explain that moment?

00:35:49 And there's a New Times headline here that we can show you. 0.94

00:35:53 Brigitte Macron slapped husband over text messages to an actress. 0.92

00:36:01 So, like, everybody kind of knows Emmanuel Macron's gay. 0.62

00:36:03 So this this is just implausible, like right on its face that Brigitte Macron at the and Emmanuel Macron are arguing because he's texting some hot actress. 0.73

00:36:15 But that's what they're going with. And they're now saying that, OK, they weren't joking.

00:36:20 You're right. Brigitte did give him the business, like, you know, shoved the hands right into his face.

00:36:27 It was a little embarrassing. We were landing in Vietnam, but we can shed a different light on this.

00:36:33 And what you guys actually saw at the Hanoi airport in May of 2025 is actually the fact that the first lady was angry, angry after seeing a text message to her husband from, and I am definitely not saying this name right, Golshifte Farhani.

00:36:54 I did okay there.

00:36:55 Golshifte Farhani. 1.00

00:36:57 That is an exiled Iranian actress. 0.66

00:36:59 and when they questioned Farahani, Farahani, Farahani denied the rumors of any sort of an

00:37:08 affair. So that's interesting. It's kind of like two birds, one stone. We kind of want Iran's oil.

00:37:13 Let's just go after an Iranian actress. I feel it. I like it. It's good. The West is doing good. 1.00

00:37:17 Just be like, you know what? This Iranian exiled actress almost broke up this totally normal 1.00

00:37:23 family. Totally normal teacher-student family that's happening here between two men. So that's 0.64

00:37:30 what I wanted to update you guys on. That is what is happening over in France. And we got a return

00:37:35 to our Brigitte series. And, you know, just got court approaching. I think June is the meetup.

00:37:45 I'm looking forward to it. I hope me and Brigitte get to meet one day in person.

00:37:49 I think that should happen. My Brigitte doll needs to be in frame, guys. You got to put

00:37:54 Brigitte back there like, you know, like a wall. I got Blakey. I got Brigitte. These are the various

00:38:01 items that we collect in the studio. People that inspire me. They are the muses of the

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00:40:06 That's better. 0.83

00:40:07 I feel better.

00:40:08 there we go

00:40:12 Brigitte and Blakey

00:40:13 this feels so much better

00:40:14 I feel like I'm actually at home now

00:40:16 okay

00:40:17 first I just want to read

00:40:19 this person's comment in the chat

00:40:20 responding to Nick

00:40:22 obviously I read you earlier

00:40:23 the comment from someone

00:40:24 saying that they got their phone stolen

00:40:25 and the police were like

00:40:26 sorry too dangerous of an area

00:40:27 you're not getting that back

00:40:29 not worth it

00:40:29 this person says Nick 1.00

00:40:30 please get that lady's phone back 0.82

00:40:32 since you infiltrated 0.95

00:40:33 you can return it

00:40:34 that's a great idea

00:40:35 challenge

00:40:36 challenge for you Nick 1.00

00:40:37 get that phone back for this lady, this commenter in the chat. You got it. You have absolutely got

00:40:42 it. Okay. Other top comment from yesterday's episode is, do you think Erica watches Candace's

00:40:50 show every day with her jaw on the floor? Like, how does she keep figuring this stuff out? 1.00

00:40:55 No, I think Blakey watches the show every day with this jaw on the floor, being like,

00:41:00 how does she keep figuring this stuff out? He's just so random. I don't know. I've just

00:41:04 grown to like Blake because he's just a disaster, you know, and I do like people

00:41:08 that are just a disaster. Blake yesterday, out of nowhere, like just suddenly says on X, like,

00:41:14 did you ever follow up and find Commander Neff? And I was like, you mean Captain Adam Neff? Yeah,

00:41:21 we did find him. The one that Mitch Snow got questioned by when you guys were sending out a

00:41:26 bunch of people, like Paramount, not so tactical to say that this guy was completely lying. It was

00:41:31 never on the base and he made up the whole story. Yeah, we did find him. And we determined that he

00:41:35 did actually question Mitch, as he said, as his story checked out. And he was the nice guy.

00:41:42 I don't know why he randomly freaked out about Captain Adam Neff. But then he said that Adam

00:41:48 Neff was harassed by my cultists. But he doesn't know. He doesn't know Adam Neff, but he was

00:41:55 harassed. And I said, well, that seems a little strange. How would you know that Captain Adam

00:41:58 Neff was harassed if you didn't know Adam Neff. So I'm still waiting to hear some feedback from

00:42:04 him. I'm sure there is going to be a brilliant answer. He's quite the strategist over there.

00:42:09 Okay, comments from today's episode. This person writes, I never really understood the Sixth

00:42:12 Amendment right to a public trial until right now. Thank God for regular people who pay attention.

00:42:18 Yes, it is so important. And that's also why I am against all of these now court processes that you

00:42:24 can agree to, like I had agreed to with Daily Wire. You know, a lot of people sign agreements

00:42:30 with people and don't understand why you wouldn't want to go into a private court and have it not

00:42:37 be public because you just think, oh, it's just so like, you know, hash out details in the public

00:42:40 and that seems sensible. But actually, it just allows them to just harass you and then get away

00:42:45 with more when it's not public. And when things are public, the public can look in and they can

00:42:50 see exactly what's going on flame of love carmel writes it's not a candace curse it's divine

00:42:55 justice psalm 37 9 those who are evil will be destroyed but those who hope in the lord will

00:43:01 inherit the land oh i think you're referring to the fact that i i told you that well that time

00:43:07 that was quite funny when we were friends but andrew called me and was like are you a witch and

00:43:10 like i just know some people come after you this bad thing is said to happen uh yeah no it's

00:43:14 definitely not a curse. I actually have to endure it as well. Like if I do something bad to people

00:43:22 intentionally, like really bad things happen to me really quickly. And that's kind of the reason

00:43:26 why I conditioned myself to just tell the truth a lot all the time, just telling myself repeatedly

00:43:30 because I just, for some reason, I feel like I have a very fast boomerang rate. Caroline Cook

00:43:35 writes, Candace, have you had a chance to see the microbiopic yet? It was amazing. I loved your

00:43:39 Michael Jackson episode, unpacking the truth about the allegations and his death. Thank you

00:43:43 for bringing truth into light with everything you do.

00:43:45 Christ is king.

00:43:46 I wanted to see the microbiopic,

00:43:48 but I'm not sure if the wrong people own it.

00:43:51 His estate was basically stolen from him

00:43:52 by the very people that he was fighting.

00:43:55 And so I need to look into who makes money off of it

00:43:58 before I promote it or I even see it.

00:44:00 That's the most important question

00:44:02 because he died and had his entire estate

00:44:05 and the Beatles catalog that he owned taken from him.

00:44:10 I'm not gonna say who took it from him.

00:44:13 J. Lopez writes,

00:44:14 may the sacred divine trinity

00:44:15 and your angel guardian

00:44:16 continue to deliver you and yours from evil.

00:44:18 If you'll ask of us one Lord's Prayer

00:44:21 and three Hail Marys daily for the evil ones,

00:44:23 we'll have no way out

00:44:24 but to bow to the Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

00:44:27 Every day, the Lord's Prayer and the Hail Marys.

00:44:29 I do that in homeschooling with the kids.

00:44:31 So cute.

00:44:32 There's nothing cuter than a bunch of toddlers

00:44:34 doing their prayer hands and standing up

00:44:36 and saying their prayers every morning.

00:44:38 It's just so, so, so sweet.

00:44:39 stars writes everybody say hi to blakey neff we know you're in here fangirling he loves he loves

00:44:45 this show number one pod he doesn't even listen to his own pod charlie kirk show he doesn't listen

00:44:49 to it at all um but he definitely listens to this and so for that we thank you for being our number

00:44:55 one fan kelsey watson writes i personally find it disgusting that they are still calling it the

00:44:59 charlie kirk show after everything we now know that they have done they should rebrand to crashing

00:45:04 out with Andrew and Blake. Stop smearing Charlie's good name. It is one long crash out. I have asked

00:45:10 myself that question. Why are they continuing the show? I think at this point, obviously in the

00:45:14 beginning, they thought that it was going to be like they were going to be loved and adored by

00:45:17 the people and no one was going to look into anything or ask any questions. And so they were

00:45:21 just going to like, you know, slide into or slide next to Charlie's chair and everything was going

00:45:25 to be all good. Well, obviously, that is not the circumstance. And now I think the reason they limp

00:45:31 on is because it would just be another check on the long list of failures that the organization

00:45:37 has had since Charlie's passing and with Erica at the helm of it. And, you know, they're trying to

00:45:43 get her out of all these events because people, students don't want to go. They don't want to buy

00:45:46 tickets. Chapters are closing. They actually now, I can tell you, are incentivizing chapters not to

00:45:52 close by paying them. They're paying chapter leaders at universities, which was not something

00:45:58 that was at all done when Charlie was alive

00:46:02 and that people just genuinely wanted to join,

00:46:04 open a chapter.

00:46:05 They didn't need to be incentivized by money to do so.

00:46:08 And now if you're a broke college kid

00:46:10 and you just have to like not close a chapter,

00:46:14 I would have taken the money.

00:46:15 I probably would have taken the money.

00:46:16 I'd have been like, yeah, whatever.

00:46:19 So that's what's going on apparently in the background,

00:46:21 allegedly, in my opinion or something.

00:46:25 cc writes i'm really curious how many times this administration has had to yell abort because of

00:46:32 this podcast christ is king justice for charlie all i'm saying is i'm gonna get another time most

00:46:38 vile cover i feel it i feel it coming i'm gonna i'm a cover model again you know hit me with

00:46:43 another ugly picture i got more trump you guys text me and tell me what you want i got some

00:46:48 from that same time period like i also had like this huge thing under my chin that looked like

00:46:53 basically how my lips look crusted. I also had that here. It was on my neck. It was like all

00:46:59 down my stomach. You know, just hit me up. What do you want? You need another time shoot done

00:47:06 of that time that I was looking a little less than hot. I got you. I am unfortunately for you

00:47:14 guys. I'm just not insecure enough to care about that. You get sick. Oh, well, looks you're not

00:47:18 forever. You know, I'm not going to be hot like at 87. Just get, you know, a girl that someone

00:47:25 finds people that love you, find meaning in your life. Who cares? You want your health. That's what

00:47:30 you want. That's what matters. Looney Tunes write, the White House propaganda machine is really going

00:47:36 strong with these emails. Oh, yeah. And there will be more to come. I just, I always want to verify

00:47:41 these things and we go through great lengths. That's like today's episode. We were like, really

00:47:44 like should we run it should we show it and then okay no this is really not worth it and it's like

00:47:49 we can't do a trust me bro on a white house email and then it was like okay but like they are going

00:47:52 to have to trust us bro because this is just a system that they have implemented obviously um at

00:47:57 that level they have to have a way to root out leaks and it was very obvious in this email um

00:48:01 what was done to sort of move things around uh jamie writes i can almost guarantee that nick

00:48:07 shirley probably thought he was infiltrating this gang because someone just took his money

00:48:11 and told him he was.

00:48:12 It was just some random dude

00:48:13 looking for a come up, LOL.

00:48:14 Well, actually, it's funny

00:48:15 because some Brazilians wrote and said,

00:48:17 you can, like the gangs do paid tours

00:48:20 so you can pay them to just go on a tour.

00:48:22 So you're not infiltrating,

00:48:23 just paying them to go on a tour

00:48:24 and they will take your money

00:48:26 and that money goes through nefarious gang actions.

00:48:29 But if you want to go into a favela as a tourist,

00:48:31 you can actually somehow orchestrate that with the gang.

00:48:35 I feel like that tracks, maybe he didn't know.

00:48:38 Maybe they told me he was infiltrating.

00:48:39 I don't know.

00:48:40 Like I said, his kindergarten teacher says he's sweet.

00:48:43 So I believe it.

00:48:45 I don't question it.

00:48:47 There's no beef here.

00:48:48 I believe it.

00:48:50 Kelly Martin writes, I kid you not,

00:48:51 Make Him a Sandwich shows up the same day I get a TPUSA.

00:48:55 Riley Gaines, send me your money letter there.

00:48:57 So lame.

00:48:57 I bought all the merch and both books

00:48:59 on your highest sales day.

00:49:01 Thank you so much, Kelly Martin.

00:49:03 That was amazing.

00:49:03 Comeback of them being like boycotter advertisers

00:49:06 and then we had the highest merch day ever.

00:49:08 Yeah, I just appreciate that.

00:49:10 And obviously, you know, I'm really excited about this book.

00:49:12 Friday, we start the book club, my book,

00:49:14 first time of reading my book in the book club,

00:49:16 Make Him a Sandwich, which you guys can buy.

00:49:18 I don't know if you got it on Amazon

00:49:19 or by going directly to makehimsandwich.com,

00:49:21 but you guys can do that.

00:49:23 Also, new merch on the website.

00:49:25 You know, I'm going to say that easiest way to support us

00:49:28 is by buying merch, keeps the show independent.

00:49:30 So I'd never have to ever join a media news organization

00:49:35 ever again and worry about my content

00:49:38 making people angry because it does, people just, you know, not bending the knee apparently makes 0.71

00:49:46 a lot of people very angry, particularly Zionists. But, you know, we're winning. That's what matters. 0.94

00:49:53 Truth is winning. We will see you guys tomorrow.

00:50:08 Amen.

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Candace Owens - May 14, 2026

BREAKING! The White House Attempted To Rescind This E-mail. ｜ Candace Ep 338

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