Candace Owens - BREAKING! The White House Attempted To Rescind This E-mail. ｜ Candace Ep 338

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00:00:30.000 All right, you guys. Happy Wednesday. Sorry we're running a few minutes late. We were doing a lot of fact-checking, and I think it will be well worth the wait because about that White House Correspondents' Dinner.

00:00:41.860 I gotta tell you guys, a very curious thing happened afterward. I've learned that the White House attempted to rescind an email that went out shortly after the shooting. Shooting.

00:00:56.160 And it was a communications email, which may go a long way in terms of explaining how that Erica Kirk moment went so viral.

00:01:04.720 And on that note, I also learned an interesting thing about Justin Strife, the COO.

00:01:10.220 He became the COO seven days before Charlie died of Turning Point USA.

00:01:14.760 And I've told you guys he's the person who allegedly phoned the mysterious Pierre on that day.

00:01:21.340 Well, not only did he make that rather suspicious phone call, but he also called someone else with an approval from Erika herself.

00:01:31.080 I will just say when you learn who else he called, you're just going to probably feel like I feel.

00:01:36.420 These people had some curious priorities that day, which seemed to center around making money.

00:01:42.380 I'll say that.

00:01:43.000 And across the pond over in France, Brigitte, I miss Brigitte, Brigitte and Emmanuel Macron have spun out a new explanation regarding that slap heard around the world. And I would say it's not that believable. Welcome back to Candace.

00:02:13.000 Well, well, well, my friends. Seek and you shall find. You shall find fakeness and you shall find

00:02:20.700 gayness everywhere. We are all living the Truman Show. So I'll just jump right to it. 1.00

00:02:27.440 Apparently, the White House military office sent out communications shortly after our alleged

00:02:34.100 shooting, right? I feel like Austin Powers, the shooting, you know, the one that took place

00:02:39.180 at the press correspondence dinner,

00:02:42.240 which then everyone started speaking about

00:02:44.360 how we needed a ballroom.

00:02:45.840 I will say right off the bat, of course,

00:02:47.500 it's not exactly weird

00:02:48.420 that they would want to coordinate messaging, right?

00:02:50.900 Just to be clear, because if indeed

00:02:52.800 the commander-in-chief's life was truly at risk,

00:02:55.920 the president, as well as the number two,

00:02:58.420 the Veep, also in the room, he gets taken out.

00:03:01.360 If they're both potentially in the line of fire,

00:03:05.020 then yes, it would absolutely be appropriate

00:03:06.980 for our military to be coordinating messaging with the nation, to the nation, about their safety.

00:03:13.440 Everyone's okay. This has been resolved. But something else happened. So to jog your memory,

00:03:20.980 the shooting took place at 8.36 p.m. Eastern. That's when the Secret Service began firing

00:03:29.500 at one another. So we've since learned. Then at 9.25 p.m., so a little under an hour later,

00:03:38.940 Sarah Seidner, you will recall of CNN, she became the first person on social media

00:03:45.500 to upload the now infamous I Want to Go Home video by Erica Kirk. And we can show you that

00:03:53.400 that's when she uploaded it. There is a tool where you can look at the metadata of Instagram posts.

00:03:58.500 She posted it onto Instagram. Here it is. In the corner there, it will tell you that she posted it at 1.25, and you are looking at Universal Time, okay? So 1.25 a.m. Universal Time, that is 9.25 p.m. Eastern Time, okay?

00:04:19.580 What happened next? Approximately 9.49 p.m., so less than 20 minutes later after that video went out, the White House military office sent out an updated communication.

00:04:34.560 Oddly, within that communication, they describe an amendment to the Erica Kirk video clip, okay?

00:04:43.220 The traction of which they were monitoring.

00:04:46.640 Now, I can get behind the military office wanting to communicate.

00:04:50.820 Don't quite understand why this moment would be something that they were monitoring and then sending out language about how they wanted this to be the focus of the evening.

00:05:00.240 That point seems to me to be a bit odd.

00:05:03.160 So I will say right here, the reason why we were running late is because I do not particularly like playing Trust Me Bro when it comes to the show.

00:05:10.660 I like to show you the evidence and we do have the email. We have the email chain. But I am going to have to spend some of my earned credit with you guys and not show you a copy of this email exactly because we were very quickly able to determine that the Department of Defense is using what is known as a canary tactic to root out would be leakers. Right.

00:05:31.520 So I think I've told you about this is shortly after Charlie's assassination, they similarly implemented this at Turning Point USA.

00:05:38.320 What this means is that the IT departments are able to implement a strategy so that when they send out emails to everyone, you know, just going to send out a mass email, they are able to issue these slight variations to everyone's email.

00:05:53.640 So the word might be different. The time might be different. Barely noticeable watermarks throughout the email. Intentional typos. They can use AI programs that will do this so that every email that goes out is slightly differentiated and it helps them identify immediately the source of a leak.

00:06:11.800 smart for our military to be using that. But obviously, we sat here and we're like,

00:06:16.380 we can't share this publicly because they will be able to determine exactly who sent around this

00:06:23.100 email and people could lose their jobs. But to prove to you that I am not lying, I can give you

00:06:27.860 a few of the names of the people that were copied on this email. Stephen Chung was copied on the

00:06:33.680 email. Ryan Ripien was copied on the email, and a gentleman named Gustav Anderle was copied on

00:06:44.440 the email. I actually do, while I'm here, want to remember the title of Gustav Anderle, because

00:06:49.560 these are people that I wouldn't even know. He is the White House Communications Agency,

00:06:55.980 and it looks like it just says he's the Information Systems Manager at the White House Communications

00:07:02.860 agency in Arlington, Virginia. So these people all have access to the email. Feel free to not

00:07:08.000 trust me, bro, and to go ask the press if I'm telling the truth. You can just do that. That's

00:07:13.340 easy. Anyway, I'm now going to read you the relevant portion of this email pertaining to

00:07:18.260 Erica Kirk. Fascinating. Remember, everyone was gaslighting us and saying that this was totally

00:07:22.240 just organic. And no, they weren't asking people to boost this clip for any particular reason.

00:07:28.180 It reads, amendment to the Erika Kirk video clip, the video clip of Erika Kirk leaving the ballroom area and stating, quote, I just want to go home is driving our highest organic engagement of all incident related content across platforms.

00:07:47.480 platforms. The current assessment of that digital item is that it has generated the strongest

00:07:54.400 emotional response. It is our strongest emotional response asset associated with the incident.

00:07:59.620 It has high cross-ideological circulation. So whether you're on the left or the right,

00:08:06.280 wherever you stand, we're seeing this clip. That's good for us. It has elevated repost

00:08:13.140 velocity amongst political commentary accounts, increasing the use as a symbolic framing device

00:08:21.240 regarding media conduct and national stability narratives. Our recommendation forward is that

00:08:29.120 all communication channels should amplify this clip further, coordinate with digital partners

00:08:37.260 and our approved surrogates

00:08:40.560 to elevate the reach

00:08:42.580 and ensure dominant placement

00:08:45.020 in the overnight information environment.

00:08:50.080 The most viral engagement

00:08:52.020 presently centered around

00:08:53.420 the attendee reaction clip

00:08:54.880 now is circulating

00:08:56.660 across all platforms broadly.

00:09:00.580 Wow.

00:09:01.880 We want that to be

00:09:02.840 number one amplified overnight

00:09:04.980 in the information environment

00:09:07.060 at our military office. I just, I don't know. I just feel like this would not be the number one

00:09:14.080 priority of these individuals in an environment where you don't have any answers. Again, I'm

00:09:20.480 telling you, this is 9.49 p.m. This is a little over an hour after the shooting took place. Very

00:09:28.020 little answers. A few things were known about who is this guy? Has he been arrested? Is there a

00:09:36.660 Are there more shooters?

00:09:39.800 No, this is giving us a good emotional response,

00:09:43.620 and we need to now reach out to our surrogates,

00:09:46.780 approved surrogates,

00:09:47.880 and get this amplified and circulated

00:09:51.660 across all platforms we want to see.

00:09:54.000 But by tomorrow morning, this is number one.

00:09:58.700 It's incredible.

00:10:00.600 That is absolutely incredible.

00:10:04.020 Now, as we know, like this would be number one.

00:10:07.120 It was something that we all said, that's kind of weird.

00:10:09.400 Why is this the focus point?

00:10:11.400 Who recorded this video?

00:10:12.980 Who was passing around?

00:10:13.760 I told you I am told that this was not a video recorded by Sarah Seidner

00:10:19.260 and that instead it was distributed to Sarah Seidner

00:10:22.820 and that they had operatives record that moment.

00:10:27.040 Does that make any sense to you guys?

00:10:28.460 now in case you are thinking well it's possible that this just keeps happening to erica kirk

00:10:36.900 right she's just being used she just wants to go home this terrible thing has happened

00:10:41.380 and these snakes are the guarded at the white house they're just using her against her will

00:10:47.040 i would like to strongly caution you particularly you blakey neff what are we 41 days in

00:10:53.240 um i'd caution you against making that argument because i'm working on a background lead and it

00:11:00.680 just won't be good for you so just be quiet okay probably we'll have that for you tomorrow

00:11:06.520 anyway what happens next now if you're thinking okay well maybe that's normal is that the white

00:11:12.200 house completely panics because too many people were on this email okay they just made a bit of

00:11:17.600 a blunder the i guess you could say the white house military office uh uh panicked and they

00:11:22.400 attempted to resend the email. This is also a plausibility. You can get your IT person if you

00:11:28.400 make a mistake and send to the wrong person. They can reach in and literally take the email out of

00:11:34.160 everyone's inbox. But for some reason that did not work or it worked too late. I don't know what the

00:11:40.460 issue is. But it did not resolve the issue. They then panicked even further, I am told, and sent

00:11:48.340 out multiple emails instructing the people that were on that email that they absolutely had to

00:11:54.700 delete it. Okay, it was an order. You have to delete this. No questions asked. There'll be

00:12:01.020 conversations about this. We need to make sure that you have this deleted. And then they brought

00:12:06.160 in more IT to get involved to deal with this blunder. Now, there are other parts of this email

00:12:11.520 Now, I've read there is nothing else here that would stand out as needing to become a White House internal emergency to get something deleted.

00:12:21.500 OK. First part is talking about approved message emphasized. The president is secured. The VP is secured. Everyone's you know, they're good. That's that's not problematic.

00:12:34.860 They say that there's no credible, there's no foreign threats.

00:12:39.360 We're going to make sure we monitor any misinformation that's on the platform.

00:12:42.580 That makes sense to me.

00:12:43.880 They also want to, well, they want to monitor adversarial state media framing to make sure that, you know, other states are not lying about what's happening and saying things.

00:13:01.160 They want to monitor that activity.

00:13:01.900 That all makes sense.

00:13:03.880 The Erica Kirk video, asking to amplify that, make sure that's number one by morning time, that's the part that stands out in this email.

00:13:13.880 Why would that be a focus, again, just a little over an hour after the VP and the president are taken somewhere secure because there's a potential shooting?

00:13:26.940 i want you to think about that and like i said we'll have more information about that and

00:13:31.600 just put you just keep patting ourselves on the back for the fact that they keep trying to gaslight

00:13:36.800 us and to pretend that we are not living in an embarrassing movie um and that they are not all

00:13:43.580 just a bunch of clowns and characters uh trying to gin up our emotions uh to sway us one way or

00:13:50.980 the other and particularly over the last eight months it's just been like you need to feel bad 0.52

00:13:54.840 for Erica Kirk. That's kind of been a focus of the White House. Of the White House. There is an 0.80

00:14:00.620 unnatural alliance here between Turning Point USA and the White House. It's too much. It's feeling

00:14:07.280 a bit squishy in here. Which brings me to something else that I discovered, okay? Let's just play a

00:14:13.620 multiple choice game for people who have common sense. If you don't have common sense, don't play

00:14:16.780 this game. This game is not for you, okay? It's September 10th, 2025. Your company founder and

00:14:24.560 your boss is tragically assassinated in front of the entire world. And there's a video of him

00:14:29.920 dying, actually, that is being spread across social media like wildfire. Do you on this very day,

00:14:38.120 A, tweet something out about Trump needing a ballroom? B, phone Charlie's grieving widow

00:14:47.140 and proposition her about how money can be made?

00:14:51.500 C, call a mysterious billionaire named Pierre?

00:14:55.680 Or D, none of the above?

00:14:59.520 Now, if you answered D, none of the above,

00:15:01.560 then congratulations to you.

00:15:02.560 You are a winner.

00:15:03.200 You are not a robot.

00:15:05.060 You know those little tests?

00:15:05.780 You are not a robot.

00:15:07.260 Congratulations.

00:15:08.960 You had one of those CAPTCHA tests.

00:15:11.660 By the way, in case you're like me and the team

00:15:13.940 and never actually knew what CAPTCHA meant or stood for,

00:15:17.140 We learned today that it stands for Completely Automated Public Turing Test to tell computers and humans apart.

00:15:25.200 I'd like to, I think just more broadly speaking, we need to be able to tell if these computers versus humans,

00:15:29.560 because I think the droids are amongst us.

00:15:32.540 But anyway, if you did pass our multiple choice test, and if you are not a robot, and you said none of the above, that's a win.

00:15:37.820 Of course, if you were Justin Strife, you probably picked both B and C.

00:15:42.840 Because we learned another totally wacky story from our tips line that we were able to verify because they provided receipts.

00:15:51.440 But Justin Strife, just to jog your memory here, he is the chief operating officer of Turning Point USA.

00:15:58.220 That's a new position to which he was promoted just seven days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

00:16:03.060 He was, as you will recall, also the person that Erica brought with her for our four-hour sit-down meeting.

00:16:08.780 So we can surmise from that that there is some trust between the two.

00:16:13.520 I remember that I had specifically asked Justin Strife about that audit at Turning Point USA,

00:16:21.280 the audit that Charlie announced at the same time that he promoted Justin.

00:16:25.620 Remember, that was one email before they were starting the Canary email process.

00:16:30.220 We had scooped that and I was like, oh, that's interesting.

00:16:33.020 Does this mean that Charlie trusted Justin because he was looking for money?

00:16:36.740 And I explained to Justin that I had heard at first what was an outside rumor, someone outside of the organization that Charlie knew in a personal capacity, told me that Charlie opened up to him and said that $10 million was missing from his organization and that it wasn't Turning Point USA, but it was Turning Point Action and America's Turning Point, right?

00:17:00.380 That tip to me felt solid, but it was very difficult, given who gave the tip, but it was very difficult for me to trust an outsider's perspective, their word on the inner workings of the company.

00:17:13.440 But then, lo and behold, someone from within the company, within the organization, confirmed to me.

00:17:19.300 They said Justin was actually overheard on the phone yelling about missing money, that all of the money was missing from turning point action.

00:17:29.240 How curious.

00:17:30.920 Now, it's worth noting, I'll say allegedly,

00:17:33.940 but it's worth noting that Turning Point Action

00:17:37.080 is headed up by Tyler Boyer,

00:17:38.820 and we have already explained to you

00:17:40.720 that they have built that super feed backdoor

00:17:43.180 which pays Lori Frantzfey, Erica Kirk's mom.

00:17:47.540 So that would be interesting.

00:17:49.000 That's a compelling lead.

00:17:50.660 If I was the feds looking for things,

00:17:52.580 I would probably go,

00:17:53.980 wow, that could cause some friction in your marriage

00:17:55.720 if there was money missing,

00:17:57.520 If that pans out and that's true and Charlie discovered there was money missing and then he established this doge to audit himself internally, you know, not the accountant's auditing, which they tried to then say, oh, the accountant's audit every year.

00:18:10.800 No, this was not that.

00:18:12.000 He was establishing a doge.

00:18:14.460 I would consider that to be an interesting lead.

00:18:18.540 Did Charlie suddenly realize that money was evaporating out of his company?

00:18:22.160 I think he did.

00:18:23.300 My personal opinion, I'm going to stick to it.

00:18:25.300 But anyway, but what's fascinating in all the wrong ways is that we learned that on the day that Charlie died, Justin Strife made another phone call.

00:18:36.360 He allegedly, I'll say allegedly, called a former U.S. Army interrogator turned book printer.

00:18:46.540 And that's what Justin had on his mind.

00:18:48.520 He wanted to take care of ordering a boatload more of Charlie's upcoming book.

00:18:57.280 Let's get that to the printer.

00:19:00.260 Let's plan on ordering another tens of thousands more of Stop in the Name of God. 0.94

00:19:07.280 That's the book that Erica would then go on tour and promote.

00:19:10.760 They had previously prepared to put in an order, I think, of 25,000 to 50,000 books.

00:19:17.140 But just hours after Charlie died,

00:19:19.560 Justin Strife allegedly, apparently,

00:19:22.580 reached out to the printer and said that,

00:19:25.780 let's order some more books.

00:19:27.560 I'm going to ask Erica and I'll call you back,

00:19:30.940 but we're going to need to at least double that order.

00:19:34.260 And he allegedly did just that.

00:19:35.800 He reached out to Erica and got her permission.

00:19:38.500 And then he immediately circled back to the printing agency

00:19:41.200 and said, it's a go.

00:19:42.860 Erica says yes.

00:19:43.980 now you know i'm often told online particularly by zionists that i'm demonic i'm evil all these

00:19:55.300 things but i gotta tell you i could never imagine approaching a widow after what should have been a

00:20:00.660 shock murder i would imagine she'd be in a catatonic state right i just would imagine

00:20:07.080 there wouldn't even be a person to address.

00:20:10.720 I can never imagine thinking,

00:20:13.140 hey, I'm going to give her a call

00:20:14.780 and ask if we can get those books going.

00:20:18.900 And I'll circle right back.

00:20:20.520 I've considered a definite yes,

00:20:22.000 but I'm just going to call her real quick

00:20:22.980 and I'll circle back to you.

00:20:25.600 But as we've all learned throughout this series,

00:20:28.380 Erica is just different.

00:20:31.000 She was born for this role.

00:20:32.820 She really was.

00:20:33.460 She was able to just clearly and rationally

00:20:36.820 handle some business on the very day that Charlie was assassinated. And like I said to you,

00:20:42.940 those conversations even about her taking over the board and CEO, that happened early,

00:20:47.340 within 48 hours, that decision was made. She just had that clarity, didn't need time,

00:20:55.200 understood that that was her focus. Like, I will show you more books. And I will say what is

00:21:02.040 especially curious is that I then learned that Justin was reaching out in his other capacity.

00:21:10.120 He has a whole other job, a whole other full-time job that I had no idea about. He's not just the

00:21:15.660 CEO of Turning Point USA. I didn't know that you could be in the C-suite and have time to have

00:21:21.380 another full-time job, but Justin Strife does it. He's also running winning team publishing.

00:21:28.200 If that sounds familiar to you, that's that book publishing, conservative book publishing company that was started by Sergio Gore and Don Trump Jr.

00:21:40.160 Yeah, Sergio Gore.

00:21:41.800 That's a guy, Israel's guy, the Trump whisperer.

00:21:46.460 He was for a while.

00:21:49.900 Also, Ike Perlmutter's guy.

00:21:51.600 Everybody knows that.

00:21:52.940 Israel's guy, Sergio Gore.

00:21:55.300 Mysterious background.

00:21:56.160 but so a better way of saying that is that justin is also receiving money from winning team

00:22:03.260 publishing uh and would i would imagine stand to benefit greatly uh from high book sales that

00:22:11.040 seems a little bit too close for comfort to me don jr too i would imagine since he's the co-founder

00:22:16.560 of the company uh stood to benefit from those book sales sergio gore at the time of charlie's death

00:22:21.860 was the White House Deputy Chief of Staff.

00:22:25.520 And there was a lot of colluding between Charlie's office

00:22:28.660 and Sergio Gore's office at the White House.

00:22:31.200 They were sending even employees that were working for Charlie's office

00:22:34.880 were coming from Sergio Gore's office, vice versa.

00:22:37.580 That's what I've been told.

00:22:39.500 So in that capacity, as the White House Deputy Chief of Staff,

00:22:43.180 Sergio Gore was second in command to Susie Wiles.

00:22:46.140 But he was sort of unceremoniously kicked out, right?

00:22:50.520 They kind of made it seem like it was like, hey, he's being upgraded by being sent to India.

00:22:56.620 But the rumor, the down low that I can tell you is that there was apparently a bit of a bust up with Elon Musk.

00:23:02.900 OK, so Sergio Gore personally had it out for Elon Musk.

00:23:06.940 He didn't like him. I'm not taking sides.

00:23:08.640 I'm telling you the facts and the alleged facts.

00:23:13.060 And apparently when Elon Musk and Trump had this falling out, Sergio Gore, the Trump whisperer, was largely behind this falling out.

00:23:20.520 Or Elon assumed or thought that he was behind this. And Sergio Gore personally put a stop to Elon Musk's guy, Jared Isaacman, being appointed. Then somebody found out about Sergio Gore and another donor's son, some sort of a relationship, I was told. And there was a little bit of time for Sergio Gore to go before this blows up in the media.

00:23:46.380 and Sergio Gore then got moved to India as the ambassador.

00:23:50.600 He was sort of like randomly named the ambassador to India.

00:23:53.280 And you will recall that it was one of the more bizarre

00:23:56.300 post-assassination appearances

00:23:58.860 that was made by our Dr. Kirk.

00:24:01.860 Like she flew to Washington, D.C.,

00:24:03.500 so to the other side of the country,

00:24:05.380 leaving your kids in such an emotionally critical time.

00:24:08.920 You would not be able to wedge me away from my children

00:24:11.180 just to watch this guy, Sergio Gore,

00:24:13.900 be named ambassador to India.

00:24:15.020 Like, that could have been a text to Erica.

00:24:17.360 Hey, congrats, Serge.

00:24:19.640 Congrats, Charlie loved you.

00:24:20.740 So cool.

00:24:21.540 Wish I could have been there.

00:24:22.160 But, you know, my husband was just smarter.

00:24:24.460 So I'm going to stay here with my kids.

00:24:26.440 Like I said, Erica's different.

00:24:28.280 She's different.

00:24:28.780 She bounces back.

00:24:29.860 And she not only went there, but she said some words.

00:24:32.480 She shared some words with Sergio Gore as well.

00:24:34.840 And here's what she said.

00:24:36.660 Charlie loved you.

00:24:37.840 It's hard not to get emotional because I know that he would have been the first phone call

00:24:42.440 when he found out that you were going to be taking this position.

00:24:46.660 And the way that I was able to witness the two of you work together for years

00:24:51.760 and to champion and support the president was absolutely humbling to witness.

00:24:58.800 And I am so proud of you.

00:25:00.580 And Charlie is going to be with you every single day in spirit.

00:25:04.300 And I will be praying for you every day because I know that this is just the beginning

00:25:08.520 of an incredible opportunity for you.

00:25:10.580 And, sir, thank you for allowing Sergio to have this beautiful moment.

00:25:15.580 Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you to us.

00:25:18.860 And that man's watching over us right now, right?

00:25:22.300 OK.

00:25:27.600 Does that appearance rank like that?

00:25:30.340 Would that rank high for you for needing to do that, to just be there watching the president sign something for Sergio Gore to go to go to India?

00:25:36.900 I feel like these people know each other,

00:25:40.060 like really know each other.

00:25:42.280 We can't confirm they're making money with each other.

00:25:44.860 And it was a high priority

00:25:46.320 to think about that money being made on September 10th.

00:25:50.400 There just seems to be a lot of money flowing in and out.

00:25:54.440 Just Turning Point USA, the White House, Don Trump Jr.

00:25:58.500 We talked about Salem Media, just a lot going on here.

00:26:01.260 Justin Strife, how can you fulfill both roles?

00:26:03.460 Could it be a conflict of interest?

00:26:05.680 How about that?

00:26:06.040 Like, to become a chief, like, don't you check for conflicts or something?

00:26:09.540 I think it'd be a conflict of interest.

00:26:11.100 I wouldn't want that.

00:26:12.520 Anyway, it's worth mentioning that Charlie, when I examined these contacts and the money being made,

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00:29:07.920 Okay, I have this very hilarious update for you.

00:29:10.900 First, I wanna read the top comment,

00:29:12.720 which I don't usually do at this time of the show,

00:29:14.980 but top comment from last episode.

00:29:16.740 This person, Ag Donetto writes,

00:29:18.520 I am Brazilian.

00:29:19.600 I got robbed in Sao Paulo a couple of years ago.

00:29:22.660 While tracking my phone, I told a high-ranking sergeant where it was, and he said the police

00:29:27.440 wouldn't go there because it was PCC's TERF, the gang that this Nick guy allegedly infiltrated. 1.00

00:29:33.380 But yeah, this gringo kid had no problem going there. 1.00

00:29:36.360 White the gang whisperer. 1.00

00:29:37.880 The comments that were coming from the Brazilians were absolutely exceptional because it's just, 1.00

00:29:41.380 it's so beyond absurd that you can't even like, there's nothing to do.

00:29:44.360 It's not even like, it's not even upsetting.

00:29:45.620 It's just, it's, it's just cartoonish.

00:29:47.700 It's cartoonish is what it is, right?

00:29:49.080 Cartoons don't accept you.

00:29:50.020 You know, they're fake.

00:29:50.620 You just kind of move on.

00:29:51.940 But Nick Shirley is really having a bit of a conniption.

00:29:56.760 He's having a little bit of a breakdown

00:29:58.020 about the fact that people don't believe

00:30:00.100 he has what it takes to infiltrate gangs,

00:30:02.660 the hardest gangs in Brazil in 48 hours

00:30:05.380 with a camera and a microphone

00:30:07.320 without any contacts or something.

00:30:10.960 And this correspondence between him,

00:30:14.000 it's just hilarious.

00:30:15.180 He thinks that we're locked in like a beef of the ages

00:30:18.140 or something, Biggie versus Tupac, right?

00:30:20.520 Like, like he's just he's so tough. He's tough enough, apparently, to infiltrate a gang in 48 hours, but he apparently cannot bear the criticism, totally fair and sensible idea that people who can think rationally and critically aren't buying this.

00:30:36.440 I'm sorry. It's nothing personal. It's just dumb.

00:30:40.020 So the Internet drunk Jessica Reed Krause, known as House and Drinking Habit, came to his aid. 0.99

00:30:46.340 Like that's what they do. They send out where they get real, real reinforcements come in. 0.99

00:30:49.380 And she tweeted this. I could not stop laughing. Two of Nick Shirley's elementary school teachers

00:30:55.940 reached out to me recently to praise Nick, recounting what a smart, sweet, kind kid he was

00:31:01.840 throughout his early years. If Candace's attacks on him don't raise your suspicions,

00:31:06.400 you were never rooting for any side. And then Nick responds. This is like, OK, here it is.

00:31:12.700 here's the proof that I can infiltrate gangs. He writes back this. That's amazing. To this day,

00:31:17.840 I still keep in touch with a few of my teachers on a regular basis. I had some great teachers

00:31:23.180 growing up. And then she takes it a step further and she says, these are the type of DMs I

00:31:29.040 occasionally receive from former teachers of Nick Shirley, glimpses into who he was long before we

00:31:34.900 all knew his name, a driven, thoughtful kid who showed up to help wherever he was needed. It's

00:31:40.300 why Candace Owens is targeting him now. Nick is wildly respected, wildly, widely respected,

00:31:45.780 pardon me, among conservative media, carrying forward what Charlie Kirk led with, proof that

00:31:50.180 you can build influence and make an impact without relying on crude rhetoric, shock tactics and

00:31:55.360 conflict. I can't believe this is coming from Jessica Reed. Instead of setting up in a sterile

00:32:00.420 studio, ranting about the state of the country, he's on the ground taking action, infiltrating

00:32:05.300 these scenes in 48 hours to uncover the corruption that the other media won't touch. And he's polite.

00:32:12.080 Lived experience lends itself to quality journalism. Truth overspin, something Candace is not capable

00:32:16.600 of. In the end, old school pursuit of truth will always outlive scripted trash talk. 1.00

00:32:23.780 Are you OK, Nick? Like, are you are we are not trying to get you into Harvard. We don't need

00:32:30.220 letters of recommendation from your kindergarten teacher about the fact that you sharpened your

00:32:36.340 pencil on your own and you learned cursive faster than the rest of the class. This is not what we

00:32:42.180 are talking about. Actually, we are specifically speaking about lived experience, people who don't

00:32:48.140 turn to journalists and reporters. It's not like a form of guerrilla journalism to go out there

00:32:55.020 and understand how people live

00:32:57.500 because they're living that way already.

00:32:59.940 Like, that's the point.

00:33:01.300 That's why it's funny.

00:33:02.880 That's why we think it's funny.

00:33:04.280 We're not, I'm sure you're a great kid.

00:33:07.080 I'm sure you were the best in first grade

00:33:09.340 and second grade too.

00:33:10.540 You're probably a really sweet kid.

00:33:11.700 I probably had adorable photos

00:33:13.160 and all the stuff and all the things.

00:33:15.540 This is just not at all relevant

00:33:18.040 to whether or not we believe

00:33:19.180 that you infiltrated the most dangerous gang

00:33:21.660 in Brazil in 48 hours, okay?

00:33:23.380 like i said which you took offense to oh i didn't know your family reunions were so tough candace

00:33:30.840 yeah um that's kind of the point you don't even comprehend that there are families that are so

00:33:36.360 dysfunctional that family events become dangerous after a certain hour like they're playing cards

00:33:41.900 throwing singles on the table you're not sure what's in the solo cup like yeah that's kind of

00:33:47.140 the point is that that seems crazy to you, like that people have dysfunctional families that you

00:33:53.820 kind of have a bunch of people that are left up in your family, but you still love them. It's like

00:33:56.360 a weird dynamic, you know, like they're your family, like they're a little left up, but like

00:34:00.380 they're your family. That's the point, Nick, is you're not accustomed to that. And those people

00:34:05.400 are the ones that are just laughing at the premise, right? Just like I said, just go through

00:34:09.660 the comments. You're not going to be able to sell it to people outside of like gated communities

00:34:14.520 who have, like I said, never been anywhere

00:34:16.420 and try to experience those things

00:34:18.940 through a TV screen or through a cute YouTube channel.

00:34:21.580 And that's great.

00:34:22.400 Like those people will fund you.

00:34:23.520 But for people who have lived a little,

00:34:26.740 it's just implausible.

00:34:28.180 That's all.

00:34:28.580 It's nothing personal.

00:34:30.280 You and I are not beefing.

00:34:32.000 I just, there's no letter of recommendation

00:34:34.200 from any grade of schooling

00:34:36.120 that is going to make me believe.

00:34:37.800 In fact, kind of the opposite.

00:34:40.060 The fact that your kindergarten teachers

00:34:41.440 are writing letters of recommendation

00:34:42.740 make me definitely believe that you didn't infiltrate a gang in 48 hours. I don't know.

00:34:47.800 It's just me. Not just me. Actually, it's a kind of everyone. Everyone who can think.

00:34:52.300 Anyway, I wanted to show you this, too, because I guess that everything is just so weird and fake 1.00

00:34:56.520 and gay all the time. And so we all recall, of course, the notorious slap heard around the world 1.00

00:35:02.760 Brigitte Macron. Massive hands. It's a thing. It's a like that's the one thing the doctor can't work

00:35:09.180 on, right? You can get a thousand things, feminization surgery. Look at, oh my gosh, 0.98

00:35:13.720 do it again. Let me see. Oh, oh. He's like those things at the gas station that like

00:35:20.220 kind of bounce back. I'm talking about the car wash, I mean, that kind of were like floating

00:35:26.320 like this. Anyway, he bounces back, pulls it together. I didn't expect Sky News to capture

00:35:30.360 that. And then they started rolling out the excuses of what happened. And first they said

00:35:34.460 it did nothing happened. And then they said they were just joking around. That's what they do.

00:35:39.180 They sort of just wrestle. 0.97

00:35:41.400 Now they're rolling out a new excuse because they're realizing, OK, that was a little ridiculous.

00:35:46.680 What can we say to back that up and explain that moment?

00:35:49.280 And there's a New Times headline here that we can show you. 0.94

00:35:53.540 Brigitte Macron slapped husband over text messages to an actress. 0.92

00:36:01.340 So, like, everybody kind of knows Emmanuel Macron's gay. 0.62

00:36:03.860 So this this is just implausible, like right on its face that Brigitte Macron at the and Emmanuel Macron are arguing because he's texting some hot actress. 0.73

00:36:15.380 But that's what they're going with. And they're now saying that, OK, they weren't joking.

00:36:20.940 You're right. Brigitte did give him the business, like, you know, shoved the hands right into his face.

00:36:27.920 It was a little embarrassing. We were landing in Vietnam, but we can shed a different light on this.

00:36:33.860 And what you guys actually saw at the Hanoi airport in May of 2025 is actually the fact that the first lady was angry, angry after seeing a text message to her husband from, and I am definitely not saying this name right, Golshifte Farhani.

00:36:54.880 I did okay there.

00:36:55.940 Golshifte Farhani. 1.00

00:36:57.000 That is an exiled Iranian actress. 0.66

00:36:59.740 and when they questioned Farahani, Farahani, Farahani denied the rumors of any sort of an

00:37:08.780 affair. So that's interesting. It's kind of like two birds, one stone. We kind of want Iran's oil.

00:37:13.160 Let's just go after an Iranian actress. I feel it. I like it. It's good. The West is doing good. 1.00

00:37:17.860 Just be like, you know what? This Iranian exiled actress almost broke up this totally normal 1.00

00:37:23.980 family. Totally normal teacher-student family that's happening here between two men. So that's 0.64

00:37:30.420 what I wanted to update you guys on. That is what is happening over in France. And we got a return

00:37:35.720 to our Brigitte series. And, you know, just got court approaching. I think June is the meetup.

00:37:45.220 I'm looking forward to it. I hope me and Brigitte get to meet one day in person.

00:37:49.400 I think that should happen. My Brigitte doll needs to be in frame, guys. You got to put

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00:38:01.080 items that we collect in the studio. People that inspire me. They are the muses of the

00:38:06.340 Candace show. Anyway, guys, we'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys,

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00:40:06.100 That's better. 0.83

00:40:07.680 I feel better.

00:40:08.300 there we go

00:40:12.780 Brigitte and Blakey

00:40:13.780 this feels so much better

00:40:14.900 I feel like I'm actually at home now

00:40:16.660 okay

00:40:17.680 first I just want to read

00:40:19.420 this person's comment in the chat

00:40:20.720 responding to Nick

00:40:22.260 obviously I read you earlier

00:40:23.640 the comment from someone

00:40:24.400 saying that they got their phone stolen

00:40:25.580 and the police were like

00:40:26.380 sorry too dangerous of an area

00:40:27.920 you're not getting that back

00:40:29.320 not worth it

00:40:29.920 this person says Nick 1.00

00:40:30.640 please get that lady's phone back 0.82

00:40:32.220 since you infiltrated 0.95

00:40:33.500 you can return it

00:40:34.400 that's a great idea

00:40:35.520 challenge

00:40:36.320 challenge for you Nick 1.00

00:40:37.620 get that phone back for this lady, this commenter in the chat. You got it. You have absolutely got

00:40:42.980 it. Okay. Other top comment from yesterday's episode is, do you think Erica watches Candace's

00:40:50.560 show every day with her jaw on the floor? Like, how does she keep figuring this stuff out? 1.00

00:40:55.220 No, I think Blakey watches the show every day with this jaw on the floor, being like,

00:41:00.800 how does she keep figuring this stuff out? He's just so random. I don't know. I've just

00:41:04.420 grown to like Blake because he's just a disaster, you know, and I do like people

00:41:08.360 that are just a disaster. Blake yesterday, out of nowhere, like just suddenly says on X, like,

00:41:14.780 did you ever follow up and find Commander Neff? And I was like, you mean Captain Adam Neff? Yeah,

00:41:21.340 we did find him. The one that Mitch Snow got questioned by when you guys were sending out a

00:41:26.000 bunch of people, like Paramount, not so tactical to say that this guy was completely lying. It was

00:41:31.460 never on the base and he made up the whole story. Yeah, we did find him. And we determined that he

00:41:35.640 did actually question Mitch, as he said, as his story checked out. And he was the nice guy.

00:41:42.280 I don't know why he randomly freaked out about Captain Adam Neff. But then he said that Adam

00:41:48.640 Neff was harassed by my cultists. But he doesn't know. He doesn't know Adam Neff, but he was

00:41:55.120 harassed. And I said, well, that seems a little strange. How would you know that Captain Adam

00:41:58.940 Neff was harassed if you didn't know Adam Neff. So I'm still waiting to hear some feedback from

00:42:04.040 him. I'm sure there is going to be a brilliant answer. He's quite the strategist over there.

00:42:09.060 Okay, comments from today's episode. This person writes, I never really understood the Sixth

00:42:12.880 Amendment right to a public trial until right now. Thank God for regular people who pay attention.

00:42:18.360 Yes, it is so important. And that's also why I am against all of these now court processes that you

00:42:24.820 can agree to, like I had agreed to with Daily Wire. You know, a lot of people sign agreements

00:42:30.600 with people and don't understand why you wouldn't want to go into a private court and have it not

00:42:37.200 be public because you just think, oh, it's just so like, you know, hash out details in the public

00:42:40.720 and that seems sensible. But actually, it just allows them to just harass you and then get away

00:42:45.200 with more when it's not public. And when things are public, the public can look in and they can

00:42:50.120 see exactly what's going on flame of love carmel writes it's not a candace curse it's divine

00:42:55.860 justice psalm 37 9 those who are evil will be destroyed but those who hope in the lord will

00:43:01.960 inherit the land oh i think you're referring to the fact that i i told you that well that time

00:43:07.040 that was quite funny when we were friends but andrew called me and was like are you a witch and

00:43:10.600 like i just know some people come after you this bad thing is said to happen uh yeah no it's

00:43:14.940 definitely not a curse. I actually have to endure it as well. Like if I do something bad to people

00:43:22.000 intentionally, like really bad things happen to me really quickly. And that's kind of the reason

00:43:26.140 why I conditioned myself to just tell the truth a lot all the time, just telling myself repeatedly

00:43:30.860 because I just, for some reason, I feel like I have a very fast boomerang rate. Caroline Cook

00:43:35.860 writes, Candace, have you had a chance to see the microbiopic yet? It was amazing. I loved your

00:43:39.700 Michael Jackson episode, unpacking the truth about the allegations and his death. Thank you

00:43:43.600 for bringing truth into light with everything you do.

00:43:45.680 Christ is king.

00:43:46.660 I wanted to see the microbiopic,

00:43:48.440 but I'm not sure if the wrong people own it.

00:43:51.100 His estate was basically stolen from him

00:43:52.920 by the very people that he was fighting.

00:43:55.300 And so I need to look into who makes money off of it

00:43:58.400 before I promote it or I even see it.

00:44:00.740 That's the most important question

00:44:02.040 because he died and had his entire estate

00:44:05.200 and the Beatles catalog that he owned taken from him.

00:44:10.900 I'm not gonna say who took it from him.

00:44:13.220 J. Lopez writes,

00:44:14.000 may the sacred divine trinity

00:44:15.080 and your angel guardian

00:44:16.320 continue to deliver you and yours from evil.

00:44:18.880 If you'll ask of us one Lord's Prayer

00:44:21.620 and three Hail Marys daily for the evil ones,

00:44:23.300 we'll have no way out

00:44:24.140 but to bow to the Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

00:44:27.640 Every day, the Lord's Prayer and the Hail Marys.

00:44:29.140 I do that in homeschooling with the kids.

00:44:31.500 So cute.

00:44:32.040 There's nothing cuter than a bunch of toddlers

00:44:34.120 doing their prayer hands and standing up

00:44:36.400 and saying their prayers every morning.

00:44:38.240 It's just so, so, so sweet.

00:44:39.320 stars writes everybody say hi to blakey neff we know you're in here fangirling he loves he loves

00:44:45.320 this show number one pod he doesn't even listen to his own pod charlie kirk show he doesn't listen

00:44:49.900 to it at all um but he definitely listens to this and so for that we thank you for being our number

00:44:55.360 one fan kelsey watson writes i personally find it disgusting that they are still calling it the

00:44:59.040 charlie kirk show after everything we now know that they have done they should rebrand to crashing

00:45:04.440 out with Andrew and Blake. Stop smearing Charlie's good name. It is one long crash out. I have asked

00:45:10.020 myself that question. Why are they continuing the show? I think at this point, obviously in the

00:45:14.500 beginning, they thought that it was going to be like they were going to be loved and adored by

00:45:17.640 the people and no one was going to look into anything or ask any questions. And so they were

00:45:21.420 just going to like, you know, slide into or slide next to Charlie's chair and everything was going

00:45:25.620 to be all good. Well, obviously, that is not the circumstance. And now I think the reason they limp

00:45:31.380 on is because it would just be another check on the long list of failures that the organization

00:45:37.760 has had since Charlie's passing and with Erica at the helm of it. And, you know, they're trying to

00:45:43.220 get her out of all these events because people, students don't want to go. They don't want to buy

00:45:46.300 tickets. Chapters are closing. They actually now, I can tell you, are incentivizing chapters not to

00:45:52.680 close by paying them. They're paying chapter leaders at universities, which was not something

00:45:58.400 that was at all done when Charlie was alive

00:46:02.040 and that people just genuinely wanted to join,

00:46:04.980 open a chapter.

00:46:05.720 They didn't need to be incentivized by money to do so.

00:46:08.960 And now if you're a broke college kid

00:46:10.840 and you just have to like not close a chapter,

00:46:14.020 I would have taken the money.

00:46:15.840 I probably would have taken the money.

00:46:16.940 I'd have been like, yeah, whatever.

00:46:19.520 So that's what's going on apparently in the background,

00:46:21.780 allegedly, in my opinion or something.

00:46:25.220 cc writes i'm really curious how many times this administration has had to yell abort because of

00:46:32.280 this podcast christ is king justice for charlie all i'm saying is i'm gonna get another time most

00:46:38.000 vile cover i feel it i feel it coming i'm gonna i'm a cover model again you know hit me with

00:46:43.020 another ugly picture i got more trump you guys text me and tell me what you want i got some

00:46:48.760 from that same time period like i also had like this huge thing under my chin that looked like

00:46:53.580 basically how my lips look crusted. I also had that here. It was on my neck. It was like all

00:46:59.380 down my stomach. You know, just hit me up. What do you want? You need another time shoot done

00:47:06.640 of that time that I was looking a little less than hot. I got you. I am unfortunately for you

00:47:14.060 guys. I'm just not insecure enough to care about that. You get sick. Oh, well, looks you're not

00:47:18.160 forever. You know, I'm not going to be hot like at 87. Just get, you know, a girl that someone

00:47:25.200 finds people that love you, find meaning in your life. Who cares? You want your health. That's what

00:47:30.620 you want. That's what matters. Looney Tunes write, the White House propaganda machine is really going

00:47:36.060 strong with these emails. Oh, yeah. And there will be more to come. I just, I always want to verify

00:47:41.760 these things and we go through great lengths. That's like today's episode. We were like, really

00:47:44.800 like should we run it should we show it and then okay no this is really not worth it and it's like

00:47:49.000 we can't do a trust me bro on a white house email and then it was like okay but like they are going

00:47:52.440 to have to trust us bro because this is just a system that they have implemented obviously um at

00:47:57.380 that level they have to have a way to root out leaks and it was very obvious in this email um

00:48:01.780 what was done to sort of move things around uh jamie writes i can almost guarantee that nick

00:48:07.880 shirley probably thought he was infiltrating this gang because someone just took his money

00:48:11.140 and told him he was.

00:48:12.120 It was just some random dude

00:48:13.220 looking for a come up, LOL.

00:48:14.840 Well, actually, it's funny

00:48:15.500 because some Brazilians wrote and said,

00:48:17.160 you can, like the gangs do paid tours

00:48:20.420 so you can pay them to just go on a tour.

00:48:22.960 So you're not infiltrating,

00:48:23.600 just paying them to go on a tour

00:48:24.580 and they will take your money

00:48:26.280 and that money goes through nefarious gang actions.

00:48:29.300 But if you want to go into a favela as a tourist,

00:48:31.320 you can actually somehow orchestrate that with the gang.

00:48:35.240 I feel like that tracks, maybe he didn't know.

00:48:38.760 Maybe they told me he was infiltrating.

00:48:39.820 I don't know.

00:48:40.380 Like I said, his kindergarten teacher says he's sweet.

00:48:43.560 So I believe it.

00:48:45.860 I don't question it.

00:48:47.200 There's no beef here.

00:48:48.440 I believe it.

00:48:50.300 Kelly Martin writes, I kid you not,

00:48:51.620 Make Him a Sandwich shows up the same day I get a TPUSA.

00:48:55.120 Riley Gaines, send me your money letter there.

00:48:57.080 So lame.

00:48:57.640 I bought all the merch and both books

00:48:59.900 on your highest sales day.

00:49:01.740 Thank you so much, Kelly Martin.

00:49:03.160 That was amazing.

00:49:03.860 Comeback of them being like boycotter advertisers

00:49:06.020 and then we had the highest merch day ever.

00:49:08.840 Yeah, I just appreciate that.

00:49:10.120 And obviously, you know, I'm really excited about this book.

00:49:12.200 Friday, we start the book club, my book,

00:49:14.560 first time of reading my book in the book club,

00:49:16.700 Make Him a Sandwich, which you guys can buy.

00:49:18.440 I don't know if you got it on Amazon

00:49:19.440 or by going directly to makehimsandwich.com,

00:49:21.960 but you guys can do that.

00:49:23.080 Also, new merch on the website.

00:49:25.820 You know, I'm going to say that easiest way to support us

00:49:28.120 is by buying merch, keeps the show independent.

00:49:30.600 So I'd never have to ever join a media news organization

00:49:35.400 ever again and worry about my content

00:49:38.140 making people angry because it does, people just, you know, not bending the knee apparently makes 0.71

00:49:46.200 a lot of people very angry, particularly Zionists. But, you know, we're winning. That's what matters. 0.94

00:49:53.580 Truth is winning. We will see you guys tomorrow.

00:50:08.140 Amen.

Candace Owens - May 14, 2026

BREAKING! The White House Attempted To Rescind This E-mail. ｜ Candace Ep 338

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