Candace Owens - July 27, 2024


Candace Owens x Amber Rose ｜ Candace Ep 33


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 14 minutes

Words per Minute

202.18011

Word Count

15,036

Sentence Count

1,194

Misogynist Sentences

59

Hate Speech Sentences

42


Summary

Actress Amber Rose joins Jemele to discuss her controversial speech at the Republican National Convention in 2016, and how she dealt with the aftermath of it. She also talks about the backlash she received after the speech, and why she decided to speak publicly for the first time in nearly a decade. Amber Rose is a standup comedian, standup comic, writer, and activist. She is also the host of the hit reality TV show and co-host of on Comedy Central. She is married to former Vice President Joe Biden, and they have a daughter together. Amber is also a mother of two and a wife, and she has been in the public eye for more than 20 years. She has been featured in the New York Times, CNN, CBS, and other media outlets, and is one of the most well-known and respected women in the entertainment industry. Amber also has her own podcast, which is available on all major podcasting platforms, as well as on Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, and TikTok, which is also available on the Apple App Store, Google Play, and the iTunes Store, and also on the Roku platform, which can be found on Amazon Prime and Vimeo. . Thank you so much for listening to this episode of . I am so excited to have her on the podcast! to talk about her life, her career, and what she s been through in the past year and what s to come in the next year and beyond. Thank you for listening and supporting the podcast. I hope you enjoy this episode. I appreciate it. xoxo -Jemeleves and thank you for being here. -Amber Rose Rose Rose in the podcast, and I m so much love and support you, so much thank you, bye! - Thank you, J.R. Rose -Eglinton Crosstown LRT J.J. and J.E. ( ) & J.B. (J.V. ( .J. (Amber rose) ( ) -J.C. , J. R. (JUICY (J) (R. (R) ) (J.) (J). (P. R) (J ) (S. (M. (D) (A. B. (B. R.) )


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00:00:27.140 Amber Rose, I am so excited to have you here.
00:00:29.640 Thanks for joining.
00:00:30.520 Thank you.
00:00:31.040 Thanks for having me.
00:00:31.940 So many things that I want to say.
00:00:32.920 I'm going to try to shut up.
00:00:34.000 But the first thing that I want to say is I was so empathetic watching you at the RNC
00:00:41.140 because first and foremost, your speech was amazing.
00:00:43.780 And I think everybody agreed that your speech was amazing.
00:00:46.720 But I knew what was going to follow immediately after, which was sort of this purity test
00:00:51.480 because I had lived it before.
00:00:53.020 So I was in your shoes.
00:00:54.580 I guess now it's been like eight, nine years ago.
00:00:56.280 And I just realized that everything I was being told was a lie.
00:00:59.240 And it specifically started on the BLM stuff, like on the Black America stuff.
00:01:04.640 And that's all I said.
00:01:06.400 And then my remarks went viral.
00:01:08.600 I was being invited to all these places.
00:01:10.100 And I wasn't ready to then have my feet held to the fire about every single position.
00:01:15.900 Well, what has she ever said about pro-life?
00:01:18.220 What has she ever said about this?
00:01:19.280 Is she actually a conservative?
00:01:20.700 I'm like, guys, I'm just saying what I believe in my heart to be true.
00:01:24.760 And now you're trying to put me through a test.
00:01:27.900 Right.
00:01:28.280 And that's exactly what happened to you thereafter.
00:01:31.480 Yeah.
00:01:31.980 So I guess the first question I just want to ask you is, how are you doing today?
00:01:36.620 I'm wonderful.
00:01:37.640 You're good.
00:01:38.220 Yeah.
00:01:38.600 This isn't the first time I've been canceled or viral or trending on Twitter.
00:01:44.400 You know, I've been down this road several times throughout the years.
00:01:47.780 So it's kind of just like, I mean, I slept like a baby this whole week.
00:01:52.820 So I'm so glad to hear that.
00:01:54.900 So how are you feeling, I guess, leading up to the speech?
00:01:57.520 Because that's a huge honor to be speaking in front of the former president and likely
00:02:02.740 future president of the United States.
00:02:04.760 How are you feeling leading up to the speech and immediately following it?
00:02:09.220 So I wrote my speech with one of the writers that works for Trump.
00:02:15.900 Right.
00:02:16.920 I told them everything that I wanted to talk about.
00:02:19.860 I didn't want to talk about the border.
00:02:21.240 I didn't want to talk about all that stuff.
00:02:22.580 I wanted to just keep it like, you know, I'm a mom.
00:02:24.960 I want to talk about the economy, inflation, things like that.
00:02:28.420 My story, how I came over to this side.
00:02:31.880 And they wrote something up and then I kind of put it into my own words.
00:02:36.100 And that's what everyone saw at the RNC.
00:02:39.220 But I will say, Candace, I did not think anyone would care.
00:02:46.860 I'll be honest with you.
00:02:48.280 I just, you know, I was just like, there's so many speakers going up.
00:02:52.300 No one knows me in the political world.
00:02:55.060 You know, I'm going to go there.
00:02:56.140 And honestly, the whole day before I spoke, maybe there was like some young girls that
00:03:01.860 were like my fans and stuff that wanted pictures.
00:03:03.820 But other than that, no one, you know, really knew who I was there.
00:03:09.300 And right after that speech, boy, I must have taken like 3,000 pictures in four days.
00:03:16.460 Wow.
00:03:16.860 I promise you it was like from the morning into the night, downstairs in the hotel, outside
00:03:22.820 at the RNC, walking to the RNC because, you know, they had everything blocked off and
00:03:27.660 stuff.
00:03:29.320 It definitely changed my life.
00:03:30.980 But I don't know, for sometimes for me, I'm like, I'm just a girl from Philly.
00:03:36.160 Why does anyone care?
00:03:38.440 You know, and then I go online and everyone's like, she's irrelevant.
00:03:42.200 No one cares about what she has to say.
00:03:44.380 No one gives a s***, you know, and then I'm like, okay, no one gives a s***.
00:03:47.860 Let me just go on stage and just say how I feel.
00:03:50.040 And then people give a s***.
00:03:51.740 And I'm like, but I thought they weren't going to give a s***.
00:03:54.460 Yeah.
00:03:54.780 So that's what I battle with every time I do something like that.
00:03:57.840 Well, I knew it was going to be huge for a couple of reasons.
00:04:00.560 The first, and I saw this happening, as soon as you put on the MAGA hat and there was a
00:04:06.140 clip of you, TMZ was basically chasing you, trying to pigeonhole you of like, wait, you're,
00:04:13.200 you belong to us.
00:04:14.180 Like you're, you're on the left.
00:04:16.000 You're the girl from the slut walk.
00:04:17.300 And I know how proprietary Hollywood gets about if you're in Hollywood, if we've ever promoted
00:04:23.560 you, if we've ever put you on a magazine cover, you get in line with these beliefs.
00:04:28.500 Like you, these are your political beliefs and you can't change.
00:04:31.720 So I knew hitting the RNC stage, which is such a pendulum swing, they were not going to
00:04:36.640 have that.
00:04:37.260 And then I knew that conservatives, I just don't think that they have thought through the
00:04:42.080 differences.
00:04:42.860 Not all conservatives.
00:04:43.500 Because I thought the difference is between what it means to be a conservative, what it
00:04:46.560 means to be a Republican and what it means to be a Christian.
00:04:50.740 And they were holding you to a test of, is she a Republican conservative Christian?
00:04:56.000 And the reality is tons of people can and do vote Republican who are not Christians, who
00:05:01.760 are not even necessarily fully conservatives.
00:05:04.040 They're like gay married men.
00:05:05.400 And they vote because they prioritize the economy over their gay identity.
00:05:10.360 I also don't think Donald Trump is very conservative.
00:05:12.880 Interesting.
00:05:14.320 In what ways?
00:05:16.600 He's pro-choice.
00:05:18.060 I don't think that's very conservative.
00:05:20.580 It's definitely not Christian.
00:05:22.840 So people can say you're fiscally conservative and this kind of gets into it.
00:05:26.740 Like there needs to be a thorough conversation about what it means to be a Republican versus
00:05:32.140 a conservative versus a Christian.
00:05:33.580 And we haven't had that.
00:05:34.700 And I knew that your feet were going to be held to the fire.
00:05:37.040 Was there any comments that before we get into like your background and how you ended
00:05:41.200 up there that impacted you or that you felt upset about that came at you?
00:05:45.560 Or were you just like, I'm good?
00:05:48.740 Well, I'll be honest with you.
00:05:50.140 The Matt Walsh stuff, it didn't really bother me, but it did.
00:05:54.020 It did, you know, people of religious people like that is why I went on my atheist journey.
00:06:04.940 And so I was a Christian my whole life.
00:06:08.720 I used to go to church.
00:06:09.080 My mom still goes to church seven days a week.
00:06:10.980 You know, I used to go to church with my mom all the time.
00:06:13.080 But I used to run into people like him often.
00:06:16.120 And so for me, it made me just get turned off by the church and then in turn kind of
00:06:22.960 go on a spiritual journey.
00:06:24.240 I was looking into Buddhism.
00:06:25.620 I was looking into Islam, which was extremely far-fetched for me.
00:06:32.520 And then I landed on atheism because I just never felt comfortable on that side.
00:06:38.060 But I will say besides that, when I showed up at the RNC, there was a lot of white men
00:06:47.900 in suits.
00:06:49.640 And so I can understand why maybe a person of color or somebody that comes from the left
00:06:54.840 would be intimidated by that because that's maybe not necessarily the norm that we're used
00:07:00.680 to being around.
00:07:02.260 But after I did that speech, Candace, I spoke to so many people or they were coming up to
00:07:06.900 me telling me their stories, right?
00:07:09.540 And these are guys that look like they come from generational wealth.
00:07:15.620 And they're like, oh, no, I came from nothing.
00:07:19.380 You know, I just worked my way up and I figured it out.
00:07:22.860 Or one of the other guys was like, my dad's in prison for murder.
00:07:27.800 I mean, you would think this guy was like had a billionaire daddy.
00:07:30.560 He was like, my dad's in prison for murder.
00:07:34.140 My sister died of fentanyl poisoning.
00:07:36.900 You know, my brother died in the opioid crisis.
00:07:40.440 And so it just, you know, I still had that remnants left of the left in my head where
00:07:47.000 I have to admit when I walked in there, I'm like, oh, my God, they're going to hate me
00:07:52.120 or they're just they're from a different world.
00:07:54.580 And when I started talking to them, I'm like, we're actually all going through the same
00:07:59.480 thing in America right now.
00:08:00.900 And you can't just judge a book by its cover because I don't want people to judge me.
00:08:03.900 I'm actually a sweetheart.
00:08:05.120 I'm not a crazy person or anything like that.
00:08:09.320 But yeah, it was it was it was really sad.
00:08:12.960 A lot of people are going through a lot.
00:08:14.340 And and thank you, you know, for telling your stories, everyone at the RNC.
00:08:20.960 And like, you know, and sorry for your loss because people lost a lot of people to fentanyl mostly.
00:08:28.180 And it's interesting that you say that because one of the things I always say to my cousin,
00:08:30.720 she she does my hair and we talk about this a lot.
00:08:32.700 I'm like, if only people in the hood knew that the rednecks, some are the exact same
00:08:36.940 people.
00:08:37.340 Yeah, they're the exact same people.
00:08:39.240 And yet the media will have you thinking like, oh, the rednecks hate black people.
00:08:43.660 And I'm like, it is actually as soon as you get around now, like they're exactly the same
00:08:48.040 people flipped.
00:08:49.280 And some of the best people I've ever met, actually, I will say the best people I ever met
00:08:52.760 are just from down here in the South because they have the right value, like, you know,
00:08:56.160 the family and faith and faith is a big component of it.
00:08:59.620 And I know what you mean when you say that you feel and it makes me sad to hear that because
00:09:03.800 I've heard it many times that Christians can be really judgmental or if you felt that
00:09:08.080 because the reality is that there were so many other Christians who were not saying that.
00:09:13.280 And I messaged Matt immediately because I actually know Matt Walsh very well.
00:09:15.880 I've worked with him for years.
00:09:16.940 He's actually an amazing person.
00:09:18.440 And I just felt, you know, I was actually following him on Instagram.
00:09:22.720 Were you?
00:09:23.380 And I unfollowed him after I saw that tweet.
00:09:25.500 See, I didn't know much about him, but I saw other people following him.
00:09:29.020 So I was just trying to find a community of people.
00:09:31.920 And I just I unfollowed him.
00:09:33.820 I'm like, oh, I guess he doesn't like me.
00:09:35.360 So that and that is so.
00:09:37.360 Yeah.
00:09:37.780 Honestly, the tweet was ill representative of who Matt Walsh is.
00:09:41.360 And his wife is amazing.
00:09:43.300 He I think what he was trying to say didn't come across the right way because I immediately
00:09:47.140 texted him and I was just like, wait, Matt, I think that like you have you have this wrong.
00:09:52.100 And I think what he was trying to say, and I hope I don't I don't sound like I'm like
00:09:56.180 an apologist for Matt Walsh, but obviously like and I might be being a little Catholic
00:09:59.420 gang gang here.
00:10:00.440 But I think what he was trying to say was something about the RNC and like what they're
00:10:06.120 prioritizing.
00:10:07.120 But I actually even disagree with that point, too, because I think that, again, speaking
00:10:11.420 to like what the RNC should be trying to do ahead of an election is basically saying,
00:10:16.460 are we these are the things that we are offering, like a better economy, this, that.
00:10:20.880 And but these are the lies that are told about the RNC.
00:10:22.700 Like people believe that Donald Trump is this.
00:10:25.260 And I think a part of that is kind of trying to disillusion people.
00:10:28.680 And so I wish you you guys and I hope you will on the opportunity to have a moment to
00:10:32.580 speak because I promise you, like, it's not who he is.
00:10:35.760 He's like a really good dude.
00:10:37.180 And I'm good.
00:10:37.960 Yeah, I know.
00:10:38.520 I know.
00:10:38.980 I feel it.
00:10:39.580 I know.
00:10:40.040 I get it.
00:10:40.520 But I'm glad that so many other people like responded.
00:10:42.680 Yeah, I had a lot of DMs of, you know, people saying that they're, you know, they're going
00:10:46.860 to pray for me that like nice Christians.
00:10:49.780 I promise he's a nice Christian.
00:10:51.660 I promise he is that I just it came out.
00:10:53.740 I think it came out the wrong way.
00:10:55.000 But yeah, Matt does so much charity for Christians and he's fought on a lot of causes.
00:11:00.520 And again, I don't want to snark him at Paul just but I get it.
00:11:02.300 I totally get how you feel about the situation.
00:11:04.060 I think it's more so like when he's like, you know, the slut walk, fine.
00:11:09.680 The f***ing rappers part.
00:11:12.520 I, you know, what's so funny here is I've only been in relationships my whole career and I've
00:11:19.220 been pitching, like, do you know in Hollywood, if you are at the same restaurant as someone,
00:11:26.140 they will put it on the news that you're together.
00:11:28.780 You're not at the same table.
00:11:30.500 You don't know them.
00:11:31.680 They're with their family.
00:11:32.760 You're with your family.
00:11:34.200 And they'll say we're at the the the hotel or the restaurant at the same exact time.
00:11:41.120 This is what they have done to me throughout the years.
00:11:43.380 OK, so I get it.
00:11:45.760 I understand this is why I'm doing this interview.
00:11:47.880 I understand why he's like, she just f***ed rappers or she just does this.
00:11:52.640 And even my slut walk, I was really, really proud of it.
00:11:57.320 I hate what it turned into.
00:11:59.080 I hated the name slut walk.
00:12:00.480 I hate it when girls, you know, which sounds very hypocritical, had to leave the slut walk dressed like that.
00:12:07.180 Which was the whole point, like, don't touch me because I'm dressed like this, you know, still respect me because I'm dressed like a slut.
00:12:14.420 But but then when they would leave, I'd be like, this is my responsibility.
00:12:18.440 I brought them here.
00:12:20.240 But now I don't want them to go get hurt.
00:12:22.000 But that was the whole damn point of the slut walk where I'm not making a change.
00:12:27.020 There's nothing.
00:12:27.820 I'm not making any change for any women right now because I really want them to go put on a blanket and walk home and go be safe and cover up.
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00:13:41.540 It's actually, I actually want to talk about the Slut Walk, and that's a great place because we can actually talk about your history and some of the judgment that was thrown at you.
00:13:47.760 And I do want to say this because I have tried to communicate this to people who just cannot understand why I have any sort of a semblance of a relationship with Tristan Tate and Andrew Tate, and they're very big.
00:14:01.320 And I just get it.
00:14:03.460 I think one of the things that happens a lot, and I always talk about Allie Stuckey, who's a Christian podcaster.
00:14:09.860 She's amazing.
00:14:10.420 She's lovely.
00:14:11.140 She's basically like what you want your daughter to be.
00:14:13.160 Like everything turned out right.
00:14:14.300 She came from a stable family, two Christian parents.
00:14:16.960 She like loves the Lord.
00:14:18.320 And then you have someone like Andrew Tate and her and him maybe have said things about each other.
00:14:25.720 But I always say to people, with the way that my life was, how my life started, I would have never listened to Allie Stuckey.
00:14:31.820 Like I would have never in a million years listened to an Allie Stuckey podcast before I listened to an Andrew Tate podcast.
00:14:40.380 Do you get what I mean?
00:14:41.020 Because it wasn't, which I'm saying this quite ironically, it wasn't relatable.
00:14:44.620 That's the name of her podcast.
00:14:45.720 It wasn't relatable because I'm like, okay, you're a girl where I hope one day that I could raise kids like that.
00:14:51.580 But I'm going to listen to someone who I just feel understands things like that I've lived through.
00:14:57.980 You know what I mean?
00:14:58.560 And it's not easy to be guided down the right path or to end up at faith immediately.
00:15:03.740 And I think that's why an entire generation of kids who didn't grow up with two parents in the home would rather listen to an Andrew Tate.
00:15:11.780 And the conservative movement does not always understand that.
00:15:13.860 And I think that that's not a good thing.
00:15:15.380 And that's why I loved when I heard you just say what you believe, because I'm like, if that I, because I believed that you believed it.
00:15:21.860 And I'm like, great.
00:15:23.180 Now we invite her in and talk to her about where she's been and what made her wake up.
00:15:28.680 So starting with the slut walk, because I was frantically against the slut walk.
00:15:33.240 Talked about it many times in my old show.
00:15:35.000 I'm going to just, I know, I remember.
00:15:36.860 Oh, I was like, I was anti slut walk because I felt that women were being used to actually make things harder for women.
00:15:44.840 So I'm going to show you just like a cut here for the audience for a clip of just some slut walk footage.
00:15:51.800 You're not in any of this footage, but just so people know what it is.
00:15:56.020 I'm a porn star.
00:15:56.980 My name is Lily Cade.
00:15:58.020 I'm here today because just because I am a slut doesn't mean you can rape me.
00:16:01.980 I am who I am.
00:16:02.640 If you don't like it, f*** you.
00:16:03.700 The word slut should be reclaimed because sex is just something that's fun and something natural that we do.
00:16:09.460 We're here to support women's rights and to choose what they want to do.
00:16:12.500 And they're not asking for it just because they're dressing like this or however they choose to dress.
00:16:16.640 Every time someone tried to call me a slut when I was younger, I was like, no, no, no, no, I'm not a slut.
00:16:22.180 I'm not a whore.
00:16:22.760 I'm not all that.
00:16:23.600 Finally, my 18th birthday comes around.
00:16:25.200 So I'm like, f*** it.
00:16:26.000 I can do what I want now.
00:16:26.760 I don't know how to say I'm not a slut.
00:16:28.340 Dick or veg.
00:16:29.160 Don't care.
00:16:29.700 So when you see that, and I will, granted, look, end of it's funny-ish.
00:16:34.300 It is funny.
00:16:35.160 Yeah.
00:16:35.980 How does it make you feel?
00:16:38.920 A part of it I am not proud of.
00:16:43.040 Another part of it I agree with.
00:16:45.660 And the part that I do agree with is that there are a lot of girls in high school or college, right, young girls, that are literally called derogatory names for no reason at all.
00:16:57.740 They're not even doing anything.
00:16:59.000 I was one of those girls.
00:17:00.020 I was a late bloomer.
00:17:01.200 My kids are 11 and 4.
00:17:03.240 I have friends that have, like, 25-year-olds.
00:17:05.560 So, you know, I do think that sometimes that is an issue where you bully girls because you're insecure or maybe she might like another boy or something like that.
00:17:18.220 So that was one piece in there, if I'm not mistaken, where the girl said that.
00:17:21.720 But then she said dick or badger, whatever.
00:17:24.580 Who cares?
00:17:25.300 Or something like that.
00:17:27.180 That's the only thing I still do agree with.
00:17:28.860 But the other stuff, I just...
00:17:32.860 And you know what, Candace, too?
00:17:34.460 Listen, when it comes to sex workers, I'm still for sex workers.
00:17:39.560 And when I say that, I mean that I understand it's not easy to just say stop.
00:17:45.900 Don't do this anymore.
00:17:47.360 You're better than this, right?
00:17:48.820 We can all say that all day.
00:17:50.940 But there has to be a solution for why they should stop, you know?
00:17:55.860 Or maybe the money that they did make through sex work or the umbrella of sex work, like stripping and stuff that was not actually sex.
00:18:05.880 And create businesses for themselves or something like that, you know?
00:18:10.980 So I have empathy for women like that because I was that girl.
00:18:16.580 I never...
00:18:17.140 My dreams and aspirations in life were not to be a dancer.
00:18:20.140 But I grew up poor and my mom had mental health issues and, you know, we were homeless when I was really young.
00:18:30.800 And my neighborhood was drug dealers and strippers, you know?
00:18:34.220 So that was my lifelong dream.
00:18:38.080 And then when I became famous, everyone just pointed the finger at me and was like, you used to be a stripper.
00:18:45.220 We remember you, you know?
00:18:47.880 And then that made, like, the whole internet and stuff.
00:18:50.900 And then I had to just live with that.
00:18:52.380 And over time, I embraced it with my slut walk because it was the only way to survive.
00:19:00.180 I was, like, in survival mode because initially I'm like, hey, guys, I grew up poor and they're like, shut up.
00:19:06.980 You were a stripper.
00:19:08.260 Shut up, you know?
00:19:09.680 So I'm like, okay, well, no one cares why.
00:19:13.640 So what else is there left for me to do?
00:19:16.200 I have to just own it, which I think is what Cardi B does often.
00:19:21.080 She has to own it and act like she...
00:19:24.800 We all have to act like we love it.
00:19:27.280 See, this is very interesting.
00:19:28.580 So for those who were not introduced to Amber Rose before the RNC, Amber Rose was introduced to the world because you were dating Kanye West.
00:19:35.360 Yes, 15 years ago.
00:19:36.960 15 years ago.
00:19:37.680 And it became this big thing.
00:19:38.880 Kanye West is dating a stripper and suddenly you became famous, like, basically overnight.
00:19:44.780 Yeah.
00:19:45.960 And I...
00:19:46.340 Well, he didn't know that I was a stripper at all when he met me.
00:19:49.460 I didn't know this.
00:19:50.300 So the misconception is that he met me at the strip club.
00:19:52.880 I thought that my whole life until right now.
00:19:54.580 No.
00:19:54.920 He never met me at the strip club.
00:19:56.540 I was actually a model.
00:19:58.800 I was signed with Ford Models.
00:20:00.180 I got booked for a music video called RoboCop on 808 and Heartbreak.
00:20:06.140 Okay.
00:20:06.860 Although that album is not about me.
00:20:09.360 My beautiful dark swissed fantasy is about me.
00:20:12.280 That's also another misconception.
00:20:13.920 That's about his ex-fiance.
00:20:14.940 So I got booked for a job and then we fell in love and we were together for, like, two years.
00:20:23.540 And it was a good time and it was a great time in pop culture and we really did have a lot of fun for a long time.
00:20:29.800 But, yes, he did not meet me in the strip club.
00:20:31.820 So when me and him started to get to know each other, I was like, hey, I, you know, I just want to be honest because I could tell that we had feelings for each other.
00:20:38.940 I am actually a dancer back in the Bronx.
00:20:41.300 I lived in the Bronx at the time.
00:20:43.240 Funny, me and Cardi worked at the same spot just different times because I'm older than her.
00:20:46.980 Oh.
00:20:47.260 And he was like, I don't care.
00:20:53.320 I just want to be with you.
00:20:54.380 I don't even care that you were a dancer.
00:20:55.800 That doesn't even bother me, you know.
00:20:58.180 And he was really great about it.
00:21:00.240 He just really didn't care because I felt like he just knew my heart.
00:21:03.080 He knew who I was as a person.
00:21:06.300 So, yeah.
00:21:06.880 So go ahead.
00:21:07.360 But that's how it all started.
00:21:08.460 I'm so glad you clarified that.
00:21:09.480 And so you, which is really funny because you got branded as a stripper.
00:21:12.560 When he met you, you weren't even stripping.
00:21:14.700 But they, I guess.
00:21:15.320 I was stripping, but he didn't know that I was a stripper.
00:21:17.640 He didn't know you were a stripper.
00:21:18.820 So I was a model, but I wasn't a Bella Hadid.
00:21:21.780 I wasn't a famous model.
00:21:23.160 I just happened to be signed to a big agency, but I wasn't getting a lot of work like that.
00:21:27.840 So I still had to dance and money back to my mom in Philly, you know, my family.
00:21:32.160 So that's why I was still dancing in the Bronx.
00:21:35.340 But he didn't meet me there.
00:21:36.560 He met me because I booked his music video.
00:21:40.080 Got it.
00:21:40.520 Okay.
00:21:40.720 So this is literally a case of just, I guess, misconceptions in the media.
00:21:44.400 No, just people pulling stories out of their ass and throwing it on the internet.
00:21:48.020 And then everyone believes it.
00:21:49.620 I think people can be really, I don't know, I guess, unforgiving of circumstances they can
00:21:55.420 never imagine themselves to be in.
00:21:56.680 So you kind of hear this when they find out, like, in someone's history, like, this person
00:21:59.660 sold drugs or, you know, this person was a stripper or did anything that was to them.
00:22:04.180 And obviously we look at these things and we're like, this is not a good career to go
00:22:09.860 into.
00:22:10.340 But they don't understand what it means when your back is against the wall and what you
00:22:13.440 would do.
00:22:14.120 And it's unfortunate that the sex industry is fast money for people that need it and
00:22:18.140 don't come from these circumstances.
00:22:19.840 It's very unfortunate.
00:22:20.740 And I'm glad you actually brought up Cardi B because so much in the media has made it
00:22:25.800 seem like I am an enemy of Cardi B.
00:22:27.480 And I feel like I'm actually the only person that ever believed in Cardi B and who truly
00:22:33.960 believed in her, meaning that she could break out of this stripper stereotype.
00:22:38.460 So I was introduced to her because my cousin, like, made me watch Love and Hip Hop.
00:22:43.500 And she was a star.
00:22:44.480 There's no question about it.
00:22:45.380 I had never watched Love and Hip Hop in my life, her and Ray J. I just thought they were
00:22:48.640 both, like, very entertaining in this way.
00:22:51.800 And what was so enjoyable about her was she was very self-deprecating.
00:22:55.840 She was just like, I want to work hard and I'm going to make it and I believe in myself.
00:22:58.820 But she would kind of, you know, point to the things that weren't right about herself
00:23:02.580 in the same way and that it was very endearing.
00:23:04.920 And then she kind of makes it when everyone's telling her she's not going to.
00:23:07.660 And she makes some music.
00:23:09.460 And I can't remember what her first, was it Bodak Yellow that went viral for the first time?
00:23:13.200 And suddenly she's in Hollywood and she's got tons of followers because people liked
00:23:17.880 her personality.
00:23:19.240 But then I felt like, OK, now she's going to move on from the stripper stereotype.
00:23:22.900 She doesn't have to be that anymore.
00:23:24.020 Like, her music is boppy.
00:23:25.860 The people love her not because she's a stripper.
00:23:27.640 And actually, what I felt the industry did was they tried to turn her into, like, the ultimate
00:23:32.640 stripper.
00:23:33.060 They were like, no, you're still, you have to be the stripper.
00:23:35.080 No, babe, it's not her fault.
00:23:36.420 They don't let you.
00:23:37.660 They don't let you move forward.
00:23:39.640 I think this is why, like, I'm 40 now and this is why I don't give a f**k anymore.
00:23:46.100 Like, I don't care.
00:23:47.040 I'm going to speak at the RNC.
00:23:48.320 I'm going to speak at my, on my Instagram.
00:23:51.240 I'm going to say how I feel about things and I'm not going to hold back anymore because
00:23:56.100 the industry does do that to women, especially women that come from nothing, like somebody
00:24:00.400 like me and Cardi B.
00:24:02.820 They intimidate you with the fact that you'll eventually be back there with nothing.
00:24:07.140 And that's how it's been for the 15 years that I've been famous.
00:24:12.140 And so it's like, you have to do this.
00:24:14.380 You have to twerk on Instagram.
00:24:16.040 You have to go viral.
00:24:17.800 You know, the more followers you get, the more endorsement deals you get, which in turn
00:24:23.680 gives you more money to support your family.
00:24:25.880 Who specifically is giving you that directive?
00:24:29.040 It's everyone.
00:24:30.180 It's everyone out there because it became a culture.
00:24:34.040 So now, and again, I don't know Cardi personally, but I'm just looking from the outside in because
00:24:40.060 I, I lived it already.
00:24:42.400 I think that her team is probably saying, look at this other female rapper.
00:24:48.120 Look what she's doing.
00:24:49.180 Oh, she just went viral doing that.
00:24:50.860 So now you got to do something, you know, raise the bar and do something else.
00:24:55.400 And so it becomes an intimidation tactic where you feel anxiety that like, it may be over
00:25:02.740 for you in a second.
00:25:05.100 And so even when me and Kanye broke up, I'll never forget it.
00:25:08.600 I mean, obviously so many years ago, but they were like, your 15 minutes is up.
00:25:14.300 It's over for you.
00:25:16.020 It's done.
00:25:17.040 You're never going to work in Hollywood again.
00:25:19.220 This is like the internet and just people, um, I couldn't get it.
00:25:24.520 I couldn't get a publicist.
00:25:26.040 I couldn't, nobody wanted to work with me.
00:25:28.500 Um, and I was like, maybe they're right.
00:25:31.260 But I just persevered and I managed myself for a few years and I just, I did it by myself.
00:25:38.460 And that first year, uh, I made my first million dollars in 2011, um, by myself, you know?
00:25:47.140 And so, but even then it's like, you go this way a little bit and you're happy and just
00:25:53.840 like, I'm finally getting out of this bulls**t.
00:25:56.420 And then it's like, Hey, do you want, I don't know, a million dollars to sign up to OnlyFans?
00:26:01.600 There's a pandemic.
00:26:02.540 Everyone might die.
00:26:03.580 You know, you're, you can't really work and travel anywhere unless you want to get a vaccine.
00:26:08.220 So this is what you want.
00:26:10.680 You're like, and you're just thinking in your head, like this money could be gone.
00:26:15.080 Like, what am I going to do after this?
00:26:17.040 This could be the last check that I get.
00:26:18.460 Yeah.
00:26:18.600 So it's everywhere.
00:26:19.560 The degeneracy is everywhere.
00:26:21.360 So you're surrounded by that.
00:26:22.600 And I was telling you on the phone how like, um, I posted that bikini pic like three weeks
00:26:27.760 ago.
00:26:28.060 I since like archives it on my page, but I dropped the coin, a crypto coin called Mava,
00:26:33.820 which is great.
00:26:34.780 Everyone go get the Mava coin.
00:26:36.860 But, um, I still fell into it, Candace, because I, um, I was telling my team, like, guys, they're
00:26:43.860 like, well, Iggy Azalea's coin was doing really good.
00:26:46.440 And she has her hands on her ass and she's like spreading her ass cheeks.
00:26:50.180 And like, you got to at least do a bikini picture with maybe like the make America great
00:26:54.480 hat.
00:26:55.360 And you want to make money?
00:26:56.920 You want your coin to go up?
00:26:57.960 Like, you know, and so I'm like, fine, let me go in the backyard by the pool and just
00:27:03.500 do it.
00:27:04.480 So I still battle with those things, Candace.
00:27:07.120 And I, I don't want to get beat up by the Republicans.
00:27:09.940 I'm already getting beat up enough by the left.
00:27:13.020 You're basically, you're in political purgatory.
00:27:15.560 It's the worst because when you leave, you're like, I've escaped.
00:27:17.880 Then when you arrive, you're like, whoa, whoa.
00:27:20.500 I don't know.
00:27:21.240 I know I'm not perfect.
00:27:22.200 I'm getting everything wrong.
00:27:23.020 And you're being screamed at by the right.
00:27:24.160 And it's, it sucks.
00:27:25.360 It is.
00:27:25.940 It's, it really sucks because I can just sense I'm a person that goes on vibes.
00:27:29.980 My team is laughing because I literally like, I just get a vibe and, but my vibes have always
00:27:33.580 been right.
00:27:33.940 And when I spoke to you, I was like, no, she means what she says.
00:27:36.960 And she's going through this metamorphosis and it's painful.
00:27:40.020 Like it is really painful to come out of that cocoon, especially, I would imagine it's 10
00:27:44.080 times worse for you because your cocoon is Hollywood.
00:27:46.100 Yeah.
00:27:46.400 And there's no room.
00:27:47.940 There's no, I mean, mine was hard enough just being black and being like, Hey, I am like
00:27:51.480 a conservative.
00:27:52.340 Oh, I'm no longer black.
00:27:53.600 No, they will take that away.
00:27:54.660 I'm not, I'm black my whole life, but they were instantly like, she's not black.
00:27:57.920 Yeah.
00:27:58.060 I'm not black anymore.
00:27:59.020 Apparently.
00:27:59.500 Yeah.
00:27:59.820 So they're, they, they take that away and they denigrate you, but it's got to be even harder
00:28:03.460 to come out of the Hollywood cocoon because the entire industry is built around really
00:28:09.340 everyone has to have the same perspective.
00:28:11.140 Everyone has to be the same.
00:28:12.280 If you want to sign the deals.
00:28:13.420 I mean, I sat down with a TikToker, super young, Gen Z TikToker.
00:28:16.580 And he spoke about how he was basically told that he wanted to do more serious and talk about
00:28:20.740 real issues.
00:28:21.740 Stay out of it.
00:28:22.840 You know, keep doing fun, stupid Tik Toks, because if you start talking and you sound
00:28:27.700 conservative, you're not going to get the sponsorships.
00:28:30.380 You're not going to get the deals.
00:28:31.620 It's intimidation.
00:28:32.640 Right.
00:28:33.780 100%.
00:28:34.220 Which is crazy.
00:28:35.160 And what's crazy is that it wakes me up at night, Candace, because I have tortured myself
00:28:41.580 for 15 years.
00:28:43.720 I've tortured myself with this stuff, you know, and I beg and I've cried and pleaded, please
00:28:50.580 reach for the stars.
00:28:52.580 Even if go talk to like maybe more conservative brands, see if they'll give me a chance.
00:28:57.800 They wouldn't give me a chance, you know, because they just didn't know me.
00:29:00.980 And I get it.
00:29:01.600 I'm not upset.
00:29:02.920 But they're like, no, this is it.
00:29:07.480 This is this is this is what you're in.
00:29:09.120 You know, I have a family.
00:29:10.200 And so when I went out on a ledge and I posted the picture with me, Trump and Melania, that
00:29:17.900 was my moment where I was like, I'm done.
00:29:21.640 Like, I'm done.
00:29:22.500 How did it come about?
00:29:23.420 Like, in your mind, how when did you decide?
00:29:26.600 I'm just going to post this photo.
00:29:28.980 MAGA, goodbye.
00:29:29.920 I'm with Donald Trump and Melania, because that obviously became a moment on the Internet.
00:29:34.040 Yeah.
00:29:34.440 So my ex-husband actually told me to do it.
00:29:38.920 Wiz.
00:29:39.740 Wiz did.
00:29:40.980 He told me to do it.
00:29:42.220 Yeah.
00:29:42.420 Although he is not political at all and he's not voting, he's just not in doesn't want
00:29:47.720 to be in that world whatsoever, I you know, he's really one of my best friends.
00:29:52.480 I love him so much still to this day.
00:29:54.300 He's just such a great person.
00:29:56.200 But I went to him and I was just like, I feel like I'm living a lie and I feel it.
00:30:01.460 And it's so much more than Trump.
00:30:03.060 But just me as a person, I was just like, I'm so unhappy.
00:30:06.520 You know, I I'm starting to hate everyone.
00:30:10.000 And I was never like that.
00:30:11.360 I was always full of love, you know, and.
00:30:14.320 And I just want to be me and I don't know how to be me.
00:30:19.020 I don't know.
00:30:19.660 I don't give a shit, but I don't know how to just like bungee jump.
00:30:25.240 Like once I bungee jump, I'm good.
00:30:26.740 Like once I do it or like jump out the airplane, I'm done, you know, and I can forever do that.
00:30:31.940 And I told him that I wanted to post a picture.
00:30:33.980 He's like.
00:30:35.840 Amber, post that shit.
00:30:38.800 He was like, post that shit right now.
00:30:41.560 You know, I'm like, for real, I should, you know, and he's like, he's like, do it.
00:30:46.580 He's like, who cares?
00:30:47.540 He was like, you vote for Trump.
00:30:49.180 Is that what you want to do?
00:30:50.200 And I was like, yeah, I'm kind of really into it, you know, and he's like, man, do that shit.
00:30:57.360 And he put a battery in my back and I was like, all right, I'm going to do it.
00:31:01.840 And out of 50,000 comments, I didn't leave one comment under my own page.
00:31:06.700 I just let everybody just argue with each other, like, just go crazy on each other because
00:31:11.700 I'm, I said what I said.
00:31:13.800 It is so freeing.
00:31:15.140 I just remember when I had that moment and it's funny because the world works in mysterious
00:31:19.000 ways, but I was listening to Kanye West's song over and over again.
00:31:24.620 The one when he came out with, gosh, I can't even think of the name of the song.
00:31:28.680 He did it 300 style where he talks about, it's going to be a beautiful death.
00:31:31.860 I'm jumping out the window.
00:31:32.920 I can't think of the name of the song.
00:31:34.680 It's one of his newer songs?
00:31:35.660 No, power.
00:31:37.260 Yes.
00:31:37.980 Oh, power.
00:31:38.640 Yeah.
00:31:38.900 I was listening to power on repeat because I knew, because that was kind of when Kanye
00:31:43.020 got canceled and then he came back and he talked about like really the power that has to come
00:31:47.680 from within and that end, like it's going to be a beautiful death.
00:31:50.400 I'm jumping out the window.
00:31:51.720 That idea came to him from the movie 300, one of the people that was involved in that told
00:31:57.560 me that.
00:31:58.340 And it was all about, I mean, that whole song, he's like FSNL and the whole cast.
00:32:02.740 Like he's basically saying like goodbye to Hollywood.
00:32:04.680 Like I'm going to be myself.
00:32:05.900 Right.
00:32:06.240 And I listened to it over and over because I knew I was just going to be bullied every
00:32:10.500 day.
00:32:10.880 People were going to call me an uncle Tom, a coon, but I had listened to so much of Kanye's
00:32:15.320 power that I just did not care.
00:32:16.920 I was like blacking out on Kanye's music.
00:32:19.400 Yeah.
00:32:19.600 And you do, you have to, it has to be that battery pack.
00:32:22.560 You have to have either the voice within yourself or behind you to be like, listen, you know
00:32:26.080 what's worse?
00:32:26.920 It is so much worse to live a life and not be yourself.
00:32:32.620 Like that is a kind of a death, you know?
00:32:34.420 It is.
00:32:35.160 I mean, I was literally like suicidal two years ago and that, and I spoke about that
00:32:42.040 on Jason Lee's podcast.
00:32:45.120 I just could not take it anymore.
00:32:48.680 Just living in a lie.
00:32:50.320 And if you look at my, my record, I don't really, I don't argue with people online.
00:32:56.180 I have like two arguments online out of 15 years of people just going in on me, you
00:33:01.780 know?
00:33:02.200 And so, um, it does take a toll after a while because you just want to scream from the rooftops
00:33:09.060 like, guys, you don't know me at all.
00:33:13.120 You don't know where I come from, but a part of me, and I don't know what that is inside
00:33:17.560 of me that is just like, well, you, I don't, you don't like me.
00:33:22.240 I don't even want to explain to you why.
00:33:23.840 Like, I don't even want to tell you like, no, like me because this is why this is like
00:33:29.460 this.
00:33:29.980 You know what I'm saying?
00:33:31.380 I rather just be like, well, just unfollow me then or talk.
00:33:34.660 I don't need, I don't even care because people that actually know me love me and I'm okay
00:33:39.760 with that.
00:33:40.460 Right.
00:33:40.700 And that's where it has to come from.
00:33:42.000 And, and that's why I love that he says it's going to be a beautiful death because it's
00:33:45.620 a death of sorts, but it's very beautiful.
00:33:47.960 And then once you start building and it's a real foundation, because if every day you have
00:33:52.900 to be someone you're not totally your spirit, it's in conflict at all times.
00:33:58.040 Like I, you have, you're basically lying all the time.
00:34:00.240 You're someone that you're not.
00:34:01.400 And so when you're able to just be yourself and just face the consequences of whatever
00:34:05.080 that means to just literally be yourself, you get to start rebuilding the blocks in
00:34:09.340 your life and you get to decide like, okay, this is now a real friend because I'm being
00:34:13.880 me and they want to be my friend.
00:34:16.280 Like I am not pretending to be something because I want magazine covers.
00:34:20.160 I'm not pretending to be someone I'm not because I'm trying to make money.
00:34:23.340 And I think that is, and I know that you're not on your journey.
00:34:27.700 I think you will get there eventually.
00:34:29.380 But what brought me back to faith is like all of that wisdom is in the Bible.
00:34:32.620 Like when it says like, you know, you can't serve, you know, both money and God.
00:34:38.080 Right.
00:34:38.520 And I think that what's happened a lot in LA is people are serving money because there's,
00:34:42.260 of course, there's an anxiety that comes from like, well, what am I going to do if I'm not
00:34:46.540 doing this and it makes it harder and harder as, as those wheels keep spinning and you're
00:34:51.180 just the whole industries around you and everything that you're getting offered is in the industry.
00:34:54.560 You're like, well, it's also a gamble because it's, I really took a gamble by posting Trump
00:34:59.500 on my page and endorsing him because everyone, everyone could have been like Matt Walsh, every
00:35:05.560 single person there or anybody online, you know, that was on that side could have been like
00:35:11.400 Matt Walsh and they weren't, they were actually very receptive and loving and made me feel
00:35:17.780 really accepted at the RNC.
00:35:20.580 Most people did.
00:35:21.760 Most people were really, really great to me and they were really nice and, and I appreciate
00:35:26.540 them very much, but I really did.
00:35:29.380 I took a gamble, you know, by doing that, but that was better than how I was living before.
00:35:34.360 So that's just how I felt.
00:35:37.120 I mean, I took the risk and I guess it worked, but even if it didn't, it still would have been
00:35:42.500 better than before.
00:35:43.860 All right, guys, interrupting you to say, doesn't Amber Rose have really good skin?
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00:37:22.800 So I'm a big believer that what we're fighting today is actual demons.
00:37:27.300 I think there are tons of things that contribute to demons, and it puts your soul at conflict.
00:37:32.220 And so I did a show last week where I was talking about how many people in the industry,
00:37:37.360 rappers, have spoken out and said that they feel like they sold their soul to the devil,
00:37:42.060 like specifically that language, or that they were wrestling with demons because of what
00:37:46.240 they were putting out all the time.
00:37:47.580 And I wanted to, because we talked about Cardi B, and she sometimes has this break online
00:37:53.200 and she's crying.
00:37:54.380 And I can't explain to you, like, my heart.
00:37:56.020 I just want to hug her when I hear it.
00:37:57.420 But there's this tape that's out there of her having one of these moments again where
00:38:02.280 she's talking about demons, and I want you to hear it.
00:38:04.500 That's kind of why I didn't want to do this song, Shake It, or, like, any Joe songs, because
00:38:12.300 it's like these songs are activating, like, these demons that I killed.
00:38:21.860 You know what I'm saying?
00:38:22.700 Like, I don't want to be that girl anymore.
00:38:26.520 Like, I just want to be a mother.
00:38:30.700 You know what I'm saying?
00:38:31.420 Like, I don't want to be that old Cardi anymore.
00:38:36.080 I'm not kidding when I say that.
00:38:37.820 Like, it makes me want to cry hearing her say that.
00:38:40.060 Literally exactly how I feel.
00:38:42.620 And I didn't even hear that, Candice, when we first started this interview.
00:38:46.940 And I can look at Cardi, and she reminds me of myself.
00:38:50.760 I know I can watch what she posts.
00:38:53.180 I've seen other things that she said.
00:38:55.520 And I'm like, that's me all day, every day.
00:38:58.760 She's done Ellen.
00:38:59.800 She's done all these, like, late-night talk shows.
00:39:04.800 And I've seen them.
00:39:05.760 They're like, so, you were a stripper?
00:39:09.360 She's like, I'm an international superstar, you know?
00:39:14.520 And, like, that's the first thing they go to.
00:39:16.600 They do the same exact thing to me.
00:39:18.700 And I can tell in her voice, I've been there, yo.
00:39:22.700 I promise you, I've been there so many times.
00:39:25.500 And once I set myself free, and now I'm just able to just be who I want to be, whatever that is, even moving forward, she'll eventually get there.
00:39:38.460 But she needs to get, she needs to clean house with her entire team, fire all those motherfuckers, get brand new people in, period.
00:39:47.460 People that are not going to intimidate her that it's going to be over for her if she doesn't clap her ass on Instagram.
00:39:53.960 I've been there.
00:39:54.620 They've done that to me for years.
00:39:56.520 Like, Cardi, if you are listening, like, you are special.
00:40:00.900 And you're, you don't have to do this.
00:40:03.360 If you want to be a mom, you can still be a mom.
00:40:05.120 And you can still be a rapper.
00:40:06.900 You don't have to be a porn rapper.
00:40:09.180 You don't.
00:40:10.140 Like, and I hear the stuff that she says it, and I had a slut walk.
00:40:13.580 I get it.
00:40:14.560 I lived it.
00:40:15.720 We've done the same thing, you know?
00:40:17.720 I think, like, yeah, I want her to know that, like, she, and that's how I felt when I was so protective of you.
00:40:23.600 Like, when I saw TMZ harassing you, like, to every person, you have a right to evolve.
00:40:30.160 Absolutely.
00:40:30.900 And the second someone tries to pigeonhole you and say you're not allowed to evolve, that person is literally trying to corrupt your spirit.
00:40:39.900 You're not, they don't want your spirit to flourish, and they want you to only see yourself one way.
00:40:44.940 And so when I saw that video of her crying, and there's other videos of her crying, and that is because she has children now.
00:40:52.100 And she's, she's on a different stage in her life.
00:40:55.220 Right.
00:40:56.080 She was talented not because she was a stripper.
00:40:58.700 She was a star not because she was a stripper.
00:41:01.300 When I was watching Crown Love and Hip Hop, I didn't care about the fact that she was a stripper.
00:41:06.020 She was a star because she's a star.
00:41:07.500 And I feel no one in her circle is telling her that.
00:41:10.420 Like, you do not have to do this at all because you will still have fans because you're talented.
00:41:14.920 Yeah, they're probably not, Candice.
00:41:17.040 They've never told me.
00:41:18.940 They never told me that there was another way out.
00:41:21.300 Just, you know what the other way out is?
00:41:23.460 Just be yourself.
00:41:25.820 It's really, it's the easiest thing you can do is really just be yourself.
00:41:30.600 Because right now in Hollywood, we're all being someone else.
00:41:34.100 We are our personas.
00:41:35.800 And it's crazy because when people actually get to know me as a person, they're like, wow, you are really nerdy.
00:41:43.440 You're nothing.
00:41:44.600 You're not hypersexual at all.
00:41:46.760 And I'm very, like, traditional in a lot of ways, you know.
00:41:52.800 But life has dealt a hand sometimes, you know.
00:41:58.640 And that's just how it is.
00:42:01.540 But, yeah, if you're just going to be yourself, it's just the best way to go, whatever that is.
00:42:07.220 I want to talk to you about your OnlyFans account because there was so much misinformation on the web about this.
00:42:12.000 When everyone, after you got kicked in the head by the left, then the right came in and said, no, we're going to kick you, too.
00:42:17.240 And look, we found her.
00:42:18.600 And she's on OnlyFans.
00:42:19.740 And she's literally just doing this because she wants a bunch of people to sign up to her OnlyFans.
00:42:23.340 And I was like, hmm, I feel like there's more to the story because the girl that I just spoke to on the phone was very genuine.
00:42:28.780 So can you explain to everybody why there was an OnlyFans account?
00:42:32.620 Because, of course, the people that were coming at you actually had not paid to see whether or not you were posting sex content or what was happening.
00:42:42.200 Yeah.
00:42:42.580 So I never posted sex content.
00:42:44.660 I've never done porn in my life at all.
00:42:48.020 I've never been a prostitute in my life.
00:42:50.220 I just posted, like, really, like, sexy pictures and stuff.
00:42:53.340 Um, but, um, funny enough, I get on Twitter.
00:42:58.400 I'm not on Twitter as much as I am on Instagram, which is why I have more followers on Instagram.
00:43:03.700 But I go on Twitter and I'm just like, you know, the RNC just happened.
00:43:07.280 And I'm like, let me see if anyone's arguing on Twitter.
00:43:11.000 And I saw that people were like, oh, she has the OnlyFans and she's available right now to talk.
00:43:17.440 And I'm like, no, I don't.
00:43:18.780 I haven't been on OnlyFans in two years.
00:43:20.600 And so I call my assistant, Joe, and I'm like, Joe, why does my OnlyFans say that it's available now?
00:43:28.280 That was supposed to be deleted a long time ago.
00:43:30.420 I haven't given any content or anything like that.
00:43:33.580 And he's like, I don't know.
00:43:34.920 Let's, I call my business manager.
00:43:36.480 And she's like, well, you know, we had this company that was doing all the DMs for you.
00:43:42.940 And when you said you didn't want to do OnlyFans anymore, they were still doing the DMs.
00:43:47.560 And you were probably, I don't want to say how much I was making a month, but she was like, you were still kind of making good money every month and you weren't doing anything.
00:43:55.120 And so I was like, you cannot do this to me.
00:44:00.480 If I told you that I was done, it should have been deleted two years ago.
00:44:05.100 I'm not an avid online OnlyFans person.
00:44:09.240 I'm not going on OnlyFans to see if my account is up there.
00:44:12.200 And what's crazy is actually in my bio and I have several links in my bio.
00:44:17.180 But you have to click a certain link to go to the OnlyFans link.
00:44:21.780 And I'm my own person, so I don't click my own bio, you know.
00:44:27.500 And it made me very upset, but I also didn't fire her because I was like, I know she was just trying to, I have a lot of different streams of revenue that go into my accounts and stuff like that.
00:44:37.900 And I know she was trying to look out, but I'm like, don't ever do that to me again.
00:44:40.780 When I say it's over, it's over.
00:44:42.380 So you hadn't posted any new content for over a year?
00:44:45.040 Two years almost, I feel like.
00:44:46.880 Yeah, it's definitely been over a year for sure.
00:44:50.560 There were residuals coming in via the DM or whatever.
00:44:53.080 And so they had this service and they were like, look, the money's coming in.
00:44:55.820 Like, what's the point of deleting this bank account, essentially?
00:44:59.000 Exactly.
00:44:59.660 Okay, that makes sense.
00:45:01.020 Because I was realizing, I was like, has anybody actually signed up to see if she's posting content or if she just has an old OnlyFans account?
00:45:06.040 There's no way.
00:45:06.660 No, I have not did content for OnlyFans in such a long time.
00:45:10.720 So I was just as shocked as everyone else on Twitter when it was like available now on OnlyFans.
00:45:18.220 And I'm like, and they put a sale up.
00:45:20.120 I mean, it's embarrassing.
00:45:21.540 You do really hear a lot of this in the industry.
00:45:25.300 The more that I speak to people, and it's funny because I keep going back to Kanye.
00:45:28.000 But, you know, he said so much to me that I couldn't even comprehend a couple of years ago about what's going on in Hollywood.
00:45:36.340 And I think that he senses the demonism.
00:45:38.300 And I think he really wanted out.
00:45:39.940 Like, I think everyone was like, what's he doing?
00:45:42.280 He's blowing up his life.
00:45:42.900 I was like, no, I think he literally wants to blow up his life.
00:45:45.260 He doesn't want a pathway back to Hollywood because he has seen it up close.
00:45:50.020 And he thinks that a lot of elements of it are demonic.
00:45:52.400 And the more that you speak to people in the industry, like hearing you say that there's this pressure, like if you want a book, you got to, this is what you have to do.
00:46:00.120 Here's what you have to do.
00:46:01.240 It does make you wonder why it got to be like this.
00:46:04.900 You know what I mean?
00:46:05.320 Like it literally doesn't have to be like this.
00:46:06.860 I've been offered a tell-all book about Kanye and my relationships or my ex-husband.
00:46:13.080 And I refuse to do it, Candice.
00:46:16.300 I will never, ever, ever sell out like that.
00:46:18.920 And I've been offered a lot, you know, and I've taken punches because I choose to do other things instead of doing something like that.
00:46:29.500 Because I feel like if, even if I didn't, we didn't work out in a relationship, it doesn't mean that I didn't love you while we were together.
00:46:37.820 So I wouldn't do that.
00:46:40.960 But that's how Hollywood is.
00:46:42.200 It's like, oh, you're not with so-and-so anymore.
00:46:44.840 You want to write a book, you know?
00:46:47.140 And I was like, bro, I'll never go out like that.
00:46:50.160 Hell no.
00:46:51.080 No matter what, I won't do that.
00:46:53.240 But that's, that's how it is.
00:46:55.040 That's how it is in Hollywood for sure.
00:46:56.500 Yeah, they're constantly, especially amongst women, it's all about sex.
00:47:01.460 And I'm a person that I think that the contributions that the Kardashian family has made for women have been, and I'm not placing it squarely on them, but I just vividly recall a shift in culture, you know, after the Kardashian show where I think women, I don't know, just kind of saw sex on display all the time.
00:47:23.720 It was like the number one show for a very long time, and people began to aspire, like to glorify it in a way.
00:47:29.640 And that might also just be the timing of the explosion also of social media, and they kind of like, I would say Kim kind of became like the queen of Instagram in many ways.
00:47:36.420 And people wanted to start embodying that and holding that up as like a form of idolatry, like this is what we should be, like women should be sexy all the time.
00:47:44.760 And at the same time, you had other movements that were taking place in different ways, like this modern feminism that I hate so much.
00:47:51.560 Because I think that it, it operates where it tries to sell itself as freedom, right?
00:47:58.740 We're doing this because we're free.
00:48:00.440 But in reality, women are enslaved by it, because it then becomes the only contribution that you have.
00:48:06.620 Like if you want to be heard, you need to take your clothes off.
00:48:09.020 Like if you want people to listen to you, you need to take your clothes off.
00:48:11.240 And I'm like, that is bondage.
00:48:12.740 That is not, that's not actually freedom.
00:48:14.660 Yeah, no, I agree, which is crazy, because I think that people just thought I was just dumb, or just like a dumb stripper, and they didn't know that I was going to be as well-spoken as I was at the RNC.
00:48:31.200 And, you know, you're right.
00:48:35.880 It's just like that, and it's unfortunate, and it's something that a lot of women in the industry are still living with.
00:48:42.660 So I hope that they, I don't know, maybe see our interview together, and they just say, you know what, let me just be myself, whatever that is, instead of falling into Hollywood.
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00:50:03.900 If you could give advice to those young women, like these women who I say are like on the Whatever podcast, and I hear them and they're pretending they love what they do, and I'm like, you don't love what you do.
00:50:13.960 You do not love, like I said, I crossed from one woman who said that she can sleep with, you know, 12 men in one night, and how much money she makes, how much money she makes.
00:50:21.800 And I looked at her and I just thought, I thought I was going to pray for her.
00:50:24.400 Like, literally, I'm going to pray for you because I know that what you are saying is not true, but you need to say it so that you have, so you can keep doing it, you know?
00:50:32.260 Well, yeah, it's, it's, she's saying it because the men that pay her want to hear that.
00:50:37.820 She has to still stay within the fantasy, you know what I mean?
00:50:42.220 And so, like, let's say if you have an OnlyFans and stuff, and you get on the Whatever podcast, and you're like, actually, I'm a good girl.
00:50:49.300 I've never done porn in my life.
00:50:50.760 I'm really smart.
00:50:51.540 And, like, I, I just kind of just talk shit to these guys to make money, but I never do anything.
00:50:57.220 The guys are going to be like, I'm never paying this girl any money ever again.
00:51:01.160 So you have to go on those podcasts, essentially, and say, yeah, I, you know, I had sex with 12 guys.
00:51:08.160 And, like, you know, maybe the guys are like cucks that, that give them money, you know?
00:51:12.860 And they like to hear things like that.
00:51:14.500 And they're like, oh, you said what I wanted you to say on the Whatever podcast, now I'm going to send you $1,500.
00:51:21.420 That's how those things work.
00:51:23.680 I will tell you, doing Slut Walk and talking to a lot of women and sex workers, 99% of sex workers do not want to be sex workers.
00:51:34.080 And that's porn, prostitution, stripping, OnlyFans, all of the above.
00:51:41.160 They don't want to do it.
00:51:42.660 And I'll leave the 1% for girls that want to argue with me online about how much they love porn or whatever.
00:51:49.780 I've talked to thousands of girls throughout the years.
00:51:52.820 Nobody wants to do that.
00:51:54.340 But the problem is, is that, like we were saying upstairs, the feminism turned women masculine, men beta.
00:52:05.220 And now what happened is, is that these girls have masculine energy and the guys are still beta.
00:52:13.020 And they, they, the guys also tell the girls, no one's ever going to marry you.
00:52:18.980 You're damaged goods.
00:52:20.820 There's no redemption.
00:52:21.900 You know, you're never going to figure this out.
00:52:24.760 You might as well just give up on life.
00:52:26.480 And so that doesn't actually help the girls either say, they're just like, well, I might as well just stay in it.
00:52:32.500 No one's ever going to love me anyway.
00:52:35.180 And so it's a vicious cycle.
00:52:36.920 And that's why, you know, people getting married, like marriage rates are down and divorce is up and we just can't get along with each other.
00:52:47.120 Right.
00:52:47.360 I totally agree.
00:52:48.500 You and I have tons of disagreements.
00:52:50.720 Like I said, you're in your early phase and, but I was there.
00:52:54.300 I, I was vividly recall sitting across from Dave Rubin and I hadn't had it all figured out.
00:52:58.840 And I just knew I disagreed with that one thing.
00:53:00.360 And I now am probably considered far right, I guess.
00:53:05.300 I mean, I was right as I could possibly be on a lot of the issues because it was like, it was like peeling back an onion.
00:53:10.480 I was like, this isn't true.
00:53:11.320 And then I was like, oh, wait, this isn't true.
00:53:13.020 And this is how feminism plays into this and plays into this.
00:53:15.580 And this is how this plays into this.
00:53:17.100 And then finally, I just was like, I am a Christian.
00:53:20.240 That's like Bible based.
00:53:22.960 And because the Bible always had the answers I was looking for.
00:53:26.060 But I want to talk about some things that we disagree with because I want people to know that this isn't an act.
00:53:31.680 Like, this is not an act.
00:53:32.480 You've said what you believe and you don't, like, it's not like you're checking boxes and just saying stuff that you would expect a Christian conservative Republican to say.
00:53:40.340 We disagree on trans stuff, I think.
00:53:43.360 Do we?
00:53:43.780 I don't know.
00:53:44.200 I think we do.
00:53:44.760 Okay.
00:53:45.360 Yeah.
00:53:45.820 Where are you at on, like, the trans, I call it the trans agenda, the explosion of transgenderism, I guess we could say?
00:53:52.500 Yeah.
00:53:52.940 So I grew up in the ballroom scene.
00:53:55.000 I don't know if you know what that is in the gay trans world.
00:53:57.900 I have no idea what that is.
00:53:59.300 Okay.
00:53:59.580 So it's like, it's mostly a lot of people at the time that their families didn't really necessarily accept them.
00:54:07.060 And so they created families within that community.
00:54:10.580 And they named those families different things.
00:54:12.580 They were called houses, right?
00:54:14.760 And so I was in a house when I was younger.
00:54:17.840 My best friend was, like, a gay boy.
00:54:19.540 He was, like, 13 or whatever.
00:54:20.920 And I was surrounded by actual trans people.
00:54:24.120 Now, back in that day, which is the 90s, 2000s, let's say a trans girl would get an attitude with me.
00:54:34.440 The other trans girls that were my friends would be like, bitch, you're a man.
00:54:38.660 Don't do that to Amber.
00:54:40.220 Like, you're a man.
00:54:41.000 I'm a man.
00:54:41.680 Me, you could fight, but you're not going to touch her.
00:54:43.840 So those are the trans women that I'm used to being around that I grew up with, right?
00:54:48.400 And it was kind of shady to call, like, a trans girl, man, but they would do that.
00:54:53.000 So here's the thing.
00:54:55.580 Am I for a gender-affirming care for children?
00:54:57.960 Absolutely not.
00:54:58.720 I think we share that same sentiment.
00:55:03.200 Am I for a gender-affirming care for consenting adults?
00:55:07.160 Absolutely.
00:55:08.580 Now, do I think that a lot of people on TikTok and Instagram are actual trans people?
00:55:18.020 A lot of them are not.
00:55:19.480 They're cosplaying, and they want to be a part of a community.
00:55:21.980 They want attention.
00:55:22.720 Are trans people real?
00:55:25.840 Yes, they're very much real.
00:55:28.680 And I think that those other people give the trans community a bad name because they really just—and I'm sure, Candace, that you've been in the bathroom with trans people probably plenty of times, just didn't even know because they just went to the bathroom and no one cared.
00:55:45.600 And they washed their hands and they left.
00:55:47.080 The problem is that there's literally grown biological men with mustaches and beards, with shaving in the women's locker room, not even remotely close to transitioning into a trans woman.
00:56:03.460 And they make women feel uncomfortable in women's spaces.
00:56:06.640 I'm not for that at all.
00:56:08.000 But I think someone like Danielle, for an example, that is very far in her transition—and she has a full sex change, by the way—I think she understands that she is a biological male.
00:56:21.280 But for me, I would call her she-her.
00:56:25.100 I would just do that because she looks like a girl, and she's so far into her transition with the breasts and the softness and the face that I wouldn't be disrespectful.
00:56:34.420 Although, um, I think she does understand that she is a biological male, so that's where I'm at with—and I'm also—and I'm also for gay marriage.
00:56:42.740 I think the more love that we have, especially in America, because it's really s***, um, the happy—the happier we would all be.
00:56:52.660 So I think that—and a lot of white gay male couples adopt a lot of young Black children that are—that grow up in foster care because they always say, like, the Black boys are last to be picked.
00:57:04.600 I'm a mother of two Black boys, and, um, my father was also in foster care for most of his life.
00:57:11.620 And I think that, um, I think that, you know, it gives these kids an opportunity to go to a good school and have a good life, even if it is two dads.
00:57:21.480 Yeah, so I think—and I disagree with a lot of that.
00:57:26.080 Almost all of it.
00:57:26.740 I'm sure.
00:57:27.100 Almost all of it, actually.
00:57:28.400 And I think sometimes the mischaracterization is that conservatives don't view people who are trans as people.
00:57:36.280 They're people.
00:57:36.800 They're absolutely people.
00:57:38.220 I just—in the same way that I would not—if someone who was schizophrenic told me they were Superman, I wouldn't play the role with them, you know, because I—because they're not children.
00:57:47.380 I actually agree with you with that.
00:57:48.380 Yeah, you're not a child, you're an adult, so if I'm going to play fantasy, I'm going to play fantasy with my children who are toddlers, but I'm not going to do it with an adult because I think that's part of the issue is that it's now become so commonplace, and they're basically saying, I'm the same as you, and you have to pretend I'm the same as you.
00:58:06.900 I agree with you.
00:58:07.580 You're not the same as me.
00:58:08.940 No, they're not.
00:58:09.500 And I don't want you to suffer because I think you're already suffering.
00:58:12.720 I actually believe, especially for a lot of these people, and I've sat across from multiple people that are suffering with transgenderism, and one person, especially if they're very young and they go through these procedures too young, had their entire life ruined.
00:58:26.400 And he looked across from me, Breonna Ivey, and said, I just wish somebody had said to me, like, you're not this.
00:58:31.640 Instead of being—having Hollywood glamorize this and put Caitlyn Jenner on the exact same thing you're talking about, they make it look like it's going to be so amazing, you're going to be so happy.
00:58:39.020 And in reality, you can get on this path, and there's—you can't go backwards once you get to a certain point.
00:58:43.520 And he had the bottom surgery, and he was like, I don't know, I found a doctor on TikTok.
00:58:47.720 Well, they fast-track these young kids.
00:58:49.320 They fast-track them.
00:58:50.200 They cut their breasts off.
00:58:51.880 They give them the gender assignment surgery.
00:58:56.360 I actually agree with you, Candace, when it comes to that.
00:58:59.280 Trans women are not women.
00:59:00.900 They're not real women.
00:59:02.180 But they are trans women.
00:59:03.400 And I'm okay with that term, but they are not or ever going to be biological women.
00:59:09.680 And I think when it comes to gay marriage, and that, again, gets into my perception, which is so much further, like, eight years along of looking into everything, I just know that the nuclear family is what has always been under attack.
00:59:22.780 And they just keep trying to stop a man and a woman coming together, getting married and having kids.
00:59:27.440 Like, that, if you look at every single one of these, what I would describe as leftist positions, it's always an attack on the family.
00:59:33.160 Even climate change.
00:59:33.920 Like, how did we get there?
00:59:34.980 They're telling kids not to get married or have kids because the planet's going to be over in 10 years.
00:59:38.740 When you think about transgenderism, they're editing their parts in a way they will never be able to have productive families.
00:59:44.060 Gay marriage is obviously not a nuclear family.
00:59:46.140 You cannot have children the natural way.
00:59:48.520 Feminism is poisoning women's perspectives on men.
00:59:50.660 But there's a lot of children that need homes.
00:59:52.560 For sure.
00:59:53.100 But there are a lot of nuclear family mother and fathers who would adopt them.
00:59:58.120 And so I believe kids need, as we were talking about, their best advantaged when they have a two-parent home, a mom and a dad.
01:00:06.420 And I agree with you that being wardens of the state, you know, you don't want kids being wardens to say, I grew up with a mother who spent time in a group home.
01:00:14.780 I get that, too.
01:00:16.080 But I just think that there's this, like, purposeful attack on just that normal family structure.
01:00:22.280 Because when you have an oral family structure, you have virtually every advantage in life.
01:00:27.960 Yeah, I think that's an ideal situation, right?
01:00:30.400 That would definitely be the ideal situation.
01:00:32.100 But gay people can definitely go and help out in the foster system and adopt children and give them a better life as well.
01:00:40.800 So I agree with you that that may be a more ideal situation.
01:00:44.300 But I still think that two gay men can give a kid a great home and a great education.
01:00:50.580 I remember listening to this podcast, by the way, with you and Emily Rodzkowski.
01:00:55.200 And she was saying, it's just like, why are we doing this?
01:00:58.680 She was talking about her son, daughter.
01:01:00.960 I don't remember.
01:01:01.340 I don't remember which one she has.
01:01:02.840 I think a son.
01:01:04.060 Maybe a son.
01:01:04.620 And I think she was saying that she intentionally buys him, like, girl toys because she wants him to not think of things in terms of gender.
01:01:12.860 And that is so Hollywood to me.
01:01:14.920 Like, I'm like, okay, if a guy wants to go be a guy, that's what I mean about intentionally perverting stuff.
01:01:20.200 Because I'm just like, what is the problem?
01:01:21.700 Like, my boy is so different from my girl.
01:01:24.300 Do you have both sexes, boy and a girl?
01:01:26.080 I have two boys.
01:01:26.720 Two boys.
01:01:27.100 Okay, so you know how they are.
01:01:28.080 They are like...
01:01:28.920 Well, so I would never buy my boys girl toys.
01:01:32.120 But if they were around the little girl and her toy happens to be there and my two, three-year-old or four-year-old will pick it up and play with it, I wouldn't say that's for girls.
01:01:41.200 Yeah.
01:01:41.580 I would just let them just play.
01:01:42.380 It's a toy and they're young.
01:01:43.700 But I was so disturbed by that.
01:01:45.440 I was just going, why is she trying to force him to be confused?
01:01:49.000 Because she said something like, oh, he instantly gravitates towards the boy toys.
01:01:52.860 And I'm like, no, play with the doll.
01:01:54.500 I'm totally...
01:01:55.460 No, she didn't say that.
01:01:56.660 She did say this to you.
01:01:57.460 What did I say?
01:01:58.640 You just said something like, yeah, I don't remember what you said.
01:02:02.200 You just were kind of like nicely agreeing.
01:02:04.120 But I'm going, why are we doing this?
01:02:06.100 Why do we have to corrupt?
01:02:08.400 Everything's natural.
01:02:09.320 Everything's normal.
01:02:10.000 And actually, she's admitting that there's a difference here because there is such a difference.
01:02:13.680 The boys are wild.
01:02:15.960 Yeah, no.
01:02:16.540 You weren't saying that you did it, too.
01:02:18.100 But she was just kind of remarking in how she's trying to tell him to play with pink stuff.
01:02:21.660 And I was going, what is wrong with Hollywood?
01:02:23.180 Why is there almost like a...
01:02:25.720 I feel like there's a hatred for normal.
01:02:27.480 There's just a hatred for it.
01:02:29.140 And I think it's part of the school and the education system sort of teaching us that there is something wrong with normal.
01:02:36.540 And that's what I was saying to you about when you grow up, you have this perception of the South as being backwards and racist.
01:02:42.620 And people that love the Bible and like go to church and like what we should all aspire to be is like New York and L.A.
01:02:49.240 And they're sipping their lattes and they're progressive.
01:02:51.560 But I've now gotten to a point where I've realized that it's actually the opposite.
01:02:54.800 And the people in the South that are being lied about and this is the people that you met and that you're talking about at the RNC where you're hearing their stories.
01:03:01.900 They're like the salt of the earth.
01:03:03.540 Like they are.
01:03:04.080 They were great.
01:03:04.820 Amazing.
01:03:05.320 I'm not going to lie.
01:03:06.120 I'm not going to lie.
01:03:06.780 They were really, really great people and super nice.
01:03:10.800 And I didn't growing up in Philly.
01:03:13.320 I grew up in a predominantly black city, you know, in a black neighborhood.
01:03:17.820 And so I've never really seen white people like that.
01:03:22.120 That type of white people, you know.
01:03:24.240 Amber Rose has never seen white people until the RNC.
01:03:27.240 I know what you're saying.
01:03:28.220 My dad is white, but he's, you know, and that's the thing, too.
01:03:31.340 East Coast white people are very different than down South white people, you know, because they're more like.
01:03:36.780 Darker white, like Italians, Greeks and stuff up on the East Coast and stuff like that.
01:03:41.520 It's a different type of white, Candace.
01:03:43.540 I know you know what I'm saying.
01:03:44.200 I know exactly what you're saying.
01:03:45.280 Okay, cool.
01:03:46.000 So, like, these guys were, like, super white, like, blonde hair, blue eyed, like, white, white people.
01:03:53.080 I'm totally cutting that part of the internet.
01:03:54.700 Like, white, white people.
01:03:57.100 You know what I mean?
01:03:58.620 I totally agree.
01:03:59.460 I'm not saying it like that.
01:04:00.740 But I will say that, again, we all have the same problems.
01:04:06.780 We all have family members on drugs.
01:04:09.320 We all have problems within our families and turmoil and stories to tell, you know?
01:04:16.940 And so we're all kind of in the same boat as far as that goes.
01:04:19.680 Yeah.
01:04:19.960 Yeah.
01:04:20.300 I know exactly what you mean.
01:04:21.560 And it is surprising.
01:04:22.600 And I just want to say this because I know that so many Christians are ready to reach out to you and have said this.
01:04:27.780 Now they're praying for you.
01:04:28.740 Me and my husband are literally praying for you.
01:04:29.980 Because I just have a feeling it's a vibe.
01:04:33.260 My team, again, will make fun of me because I'm a vibe girl.
01:04:35.660 Okay, vibe girl.
01:04:36.180 But I just think that God, even though you're saying you're an atheist, there's no such thing as an atheist.
01:04:41.400 There are different churches.
01:04:43.040 And at some point, I think your faith was in Hollywood.
01:04:46.460 And it just converted away from God to something else.
01:04:48.900 And it becomes feminism.
01:04:49.880 It becomes climatism, whatever it is.
01:04:52.500 I think that this moment, because I've been feeling the Holy Spirit moving, Russell Brand being drawn.
01:04:57.200 Like, this is a guy who was in Hollywood who is now praying the rosary every day.
01:05:01.280 And I spoke to him and he just said he just felt something moving.
01:05:04.760 And he realized, and he's so well positioned to speak about it because he came from Hollywood and he was an addict.
01:05:11.500 And they loved him when he was an addict.
01:05:13.540 And then he cleaned up his life.
01:05:14.860 Oh, yeah, because he was funny.
01:05:15.080 Yeah, and then he cleaned up his life, got married, had kids, and started speaking about Jesus Christ.
01:05:19.160 And they're like, get the heck out of here.
01:05:20.800 We will ruin you.
01:05:21.740 And I just feel it for you.
01:05:23.120 Like, I think that everything you went through, God wanted you to go through that.
01:05:28.420 He wanted you to believe that he wasn't there.
01:05:31.800 Like, you know, he wanted you to question whether or not any of it's real.
01:05:37.720 And now it's because you're going to be such a voice for all of the young women that are watching this,
01:05:43.960 who are on OnlyFans, who are giving themselves, who are crying at night,
01:05:48.880 who are drinking to be able to go through with prostituting their bodies.
01:05:52.360 Like a lot of these OnlyFan girls who also moonlight and they prostitute.
01:05:56.420 And they feel that they can never be anything else.
01:05:59.640 And I think you are set up to be something else so that they know that it's possible.
01:06:06.800 I genuinely believe that.
01:06:07.740 Yeah, I want to figure out something for these girls.
01:06:12.580 Some type of nonprofit, something to help something.
01:06:16.820 I want to figure it out.
01:06:17.940 I have to figure it out.
01:06:19.760 Maybe I could work with something that's already available so I don't have to start anything by myself again.
01:06:25.420 But it has to be done in a certain way.
01:06:27.780 So we'll see.
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01:07:25.720 I also think you should have a podcast to talk to these people.
01:07:29.920 And like I said, I feel like I'm going to see you in four years.
01:07:32.980 And you're going to be like, I'm a Christian.
01:07:35.380 Read my Bible.
01:07:36.300 You're saying no.
01:07:37.160 But I'm telling you, when the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit's already moving within you, you just don't see it.
01:07:41.680 And if someone had said to me when I had first, I was always, I was like, yeah, I'm a Christian, but it's different now.
01:07:46.360 Like, I'm on, I'm like on fire for the Lord.
01:07:48.060 I really am.
01:07:49.140 And I...
01:07:49.580 You know what?
01:07:50.020 I'll say this.
01:07:50.720 I wish, I wish I was.
01:07:52.920 I'll say that.
01:07:53.820 I wish that I was.
01:07:54.920 I miss the feeling of the comfort I had from God.
01:07:58.000 Um, but I don't believe in God.
01:08:01.220 I just don't.
01:08:01.940 And I don't know if I can go back to that because, um, on my journey to atheism, a lot of time was mostly just my mom saying, just scaring the living out of me when it comes to God and demons.
01:08:17.660 And being a kid and saying, we got generational demons on our back, this whole family, we got generational demons.
01:08:24.820 And I'm like, dude, I don't want a demon on my back.
01:08:27.580 I don't want a demon around me.
01:08:28.980 Like, I don't have demons.
01:08:30.540 You can have demons.
01:08:32.100 My aunt can have demons.
01:08:33.280 My uncle can have demons.
01:08:34.160 I don't have demons.
01:08:34.920 And that, for me, was far too much as a child, which in turn made me an atheist.
01:08:42.480 It's just too much for me, Candace.
01:08:44.020 I'm telling you, I'm...
01:08:45.640 These are going to be your famous last words because I'm telling you, when you go a different path...
01:08:49.440 It's all too much for me.
01:08:50.220 It all starts with realizing one lie and then you realize that there's only one author of lies and that's Satan and there's only one author of truth and that's God.
01:08:55.920 See, I don't believe Satan is real.
01:08:57.460 I don't believe Satan is a thing.
01:08:59.300 Well, you just, you were up close and personal with him in Hollywood.
01:09:01.680 Like, what you're hearing, when you hear Cardi talking about, I said goodbye to these demons, like, she just is not realizing that's real demons.
01:09:09.860 I mean, I resonate with that figuratively.
01:09:12.460 But it's not figurative.
01:09:13.640 She's wrestling with real demons.
01:09:15.020 And they want you to think it's figurative.
01:09:17.420 And I don't even have to argue with this because I know, I just know how the Holy Spirit moves.
01:09:22.160 Like, I'm just like...
01:09:23.360 I mean, Candace, I prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed and my prayers were not answered.
01:09:30.880 You don't think...
01:09:31.780 When I was a Christian.
01:09:32.960 You don't think your prayers were answered.
01:09:35.400 Somebody said to me, God never doesn't answer your prayer.
01:09:38.740 He either says, not right now, or I have something better in store for you.
01:09:43.740 Maybe God answered my prayers by all this.
01:09:46.880 That's what I'm saying.
01:09:47.740 Sure.
01:09:48.120 I'm telling you.
01:09:49.000 Okay, Candace.
01:09:49.580 I think he's like, not right now.
01:09:51.700 And I'm sorry to have to turn into a pastor right now, but I just...
01:09:54.800 So let me ask you a question.
01:09:55.760 If I was Hindu or Muslim, you would still say the same thing?
01:09:58.400 I'm Christian.
01:09:59.280 I want everybody to believe in Christ.
01:10:01.480 Yeah.
01:10:02.280 Christ is the Lord.
01:10:03.020 Christ is the Savior.
01:10:04.220 And you, like I said, I remember feeling like that.
01:10:09.160 And when I was like, well, God was real.
01:10:11.420 He wouldn't allow this to happen to me.
01:10:13.120 He wouldn't allow this to happen to me.
01:10:14.020 And then when I opened myself up and realized, I'm like, he put me in that scenario because
01:10:19.000 he knew that I would be able to speak on this.
01:10:20.880 He wanted me to go through this negative and this negative because he knew that this was
01:10:24.700 the ultimate equation.
01:10:25.600 And he's the great mathematician and he was like, you need a plus here, a minus here, a
01:10:29.120 minus here, a minus here.
01:10:30.140 And so when you're hitting and you're seeing all these negatives in your life, you're just
01:10:32.740 like, well, God can't be real because why would he do that?
01:10:36.180 And then when you let go and let God...
01:10:38.600 I wish I had what you had.
01:10:39.780 No, but I didn't have it.
01:10:41.660 Like, that's what I'm telling you.
01:10:42.280 But I'm saying now, I wish that I had that because I feel like for me, it's too late.
01:10:47.580 No.
01:10:48.120 Oh, gosh.
01:10:48.960 I do.
01:10:49.480 I feel like it's too late.
01:10:50.380 It is not too late.
01:10:51.640 And that's why you are at the beginning of a new part of your life right now.
01:10:55.200 And I am...
01:10:55.920 It is required that five years from the day you come back on this podcast.
01:11:01.000 Okay?
01:11:01.600 Five years to the day.
01:11:03.340 I'm going to bring you back and I'm going to be running the old Amber Rose clips and
01:11:06.960 it's going to be like, I don't believe in God.
01:11:08.500 I don't believe in God.
01:11:09.600 And we're going to be like, oh, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I have a feeling.
01:11:14.480 I just feel I'm working all over.
01:11:15.560 Okay, if I were to ever believe in God, I don't think it would be the Christian God.
01:11:20.740 Well, God believes in you.
01:11:22.680 There's only one God.
01:11:22.900 It would be maybe like an alien simulation God or something like that.
01:11:29.980 No.
01:11:31.660 Something like...
01:11:32.400 That's not God.
01:11:33.640 Something like, you know, aliens from another planet like created us.
01:11:35.660 You've just been up in Silicon Valley.
01:11:37.300 You've been up in Silicon Valley too much listening to Elon Musk and AI podcasts too much.
01:11:42.000 Yeah, I think that's more realistic.
01:11:42.620 Bro, I'm going to get you out of Hollywood.
01:11:44.080 I'm going to get you out of California, in the South.
01:11:47.300 Get you out of that.
01:11:47.760 I'm going to come and visit more often.
01:11:49.300 I'm going to see what this place is about and, you know...
01:11:52.680 And everyone who's watching this, the Christians are going to be praying for you.
01:11:55.200 So it's a wrap.
01:11:56.560 Thank you, Christians.
01:11:57.280 Yeah.
01:11:57.600 Like when I get you baptized and confirmed in the Catholic...
01:12:00.760 Oh my goodness, girl.
01:12:01.700 I'm scared.
01:12:02.400 Catholic gang gang.
01:12:03.680 I'm scared.
01:12:04.480 I'm scared of that.
01:12:06.420 But Amber...
01:12:07.020 I have to get unscared.
01:12:07.940 Yeah, there's nothing...
01:12:09.260 Of religion.
01:12:09.280 It scares the living out of me.
01:12:11.720 Dealing with some trauma from your childhood and that's not...
01:12:15.940 Religion is not supposed to be scary in that way.
01:12:18.080 Well, I told you, praying used to give me a lot of comfort.
01:12:21.360 That's why I let my children do it.
01:12:23.140 But over time, I'm terrified of the...
01:12:25.900 When I see the Bible, it scares me.
01:12:28.720 It really does.
01:12:29.940 It's the moving missile.
01:12:30.720 So yeah, maybe it is trauma that I have to work through, but I'm not ready yet.
01:12:37.540 Well, you don't have to be ready yet.
01:12:39.120 And that's what I want you to give the permission is like take it one day at a time and don't
01:12:42.640 let anybody make you feel pressured to know the right thing, to say the right thing, and
01:12:46.220 know that you are going to say the wrong thing.
01:12:48.160 And I think people are scared of that.
01:12:49.440 Like if I'm not perfect immediately, like even me becoming Catholic, I had such...
01:12:54.780 I still have anxiety because I'm so afraid.
01:12:57.060 I understand like there are cameras everywhere.
01:12:59.420 And now if I mess up, it's going to be a headline.
01:13:02.020 And I had to deal with that and go, listen, I'm not going to get it perfect.
01:13:05.600 And I pray for grace.
01:13:07.660 I ask people publicly for grace.
01:13:09.740 And I'm asking people that are listening to this to just give her some grace, you know,
01:13:13.780 give her some space.
01:13:14.760 It took a lot for her to say even one true thing.
01:13:18.420 And I hope you guys watching this, that you've heard her heart in the way that I heard it on
01:13:22.560 the phone and realized this is a real person and she does not have it all figured out right
01:13:27.140 now.
01:13:27.760 And she may never have it all figured out because I don't have it all figured out right
01:13:30.500 now, but it's all about whether or not you are willing and brave enough to change your
01:13:34.980 mind and evolve when you realize that you've gotten something wrong.
01:13:37.780 For sure.
01:13:38.100 So Amber, we are all praying for you and I'll see you back here in exactly five years to
01:13:43.620 the day.
01:13:44.080 So I can say, ha ha, told you so.
01:13:48.020 Thanks for having me.
01:13:49.080 I really appreciate it.
01:13:50.520 This was fun.
01:13:53.220 This was fun.
01:13:53.780 This was fun.
01:13:54.860 This was fun.
01:13:55.080 This was fun.
01:13:56.000 This was fun.
01:13:57.640 It was fun.
01:13:59.600 It wasn't fun.
01:14:00.420 It was fun.
01:14:01.060 It was fun.
01:14:01.960 We did smell.
01:14:03.200 One day.
01:14:03.680 I had a pug point.
01:14:04.740 You don't have it all stuff.
01:14:07.080 You don't have it all.
01:14:08.040 It was fun.
01:14:09.940 You don't have it all.
01:14:11.720 You're out.
01:14:14.180 It was fun.
01:14:16.400 You're out.
01:14:17.540 There was fun.
01:14:18.340 You're out.
01:14:19.840 You were outside.
01:14:20.620 It was fun.
01:14:21.620 You were out.