Candace Owens - Candace Owens x E. Michael Jones

00:00:00.000 All right, guys. So we've been speaking a lot on the new podcast about pornography. It's an interesting topic, obviously recognizing that right now pornography is actually everywhere, even where you don't even recognize.

00:00:11.700 You go on to Instagram and suddenly there's soft core pornography. You look up at an advertisement and a woman is selling a bag, but for whatever reason, she needs to be half naked or totally naked with the bag in order for you to want to buy it.

00:00:24.680 It's really interesting. And I've arrived at the conclusion that pornography is a spiritual weapon.

00:00:30.660 I am holding in my hand a book by E. Michael Jones. It's entitled Libido Dominandi.

00:00:37.640 And I have to tell you something about E. Michael Jones. According to the ADL, you should not listen to him.

00:00:42.480 He is a hate monger, a very hateful person. He's an anti-Semite. He's a racist. He's all the things. 1.00

00:00:47.680 And worse, probably worse of all, he's a Catholic. And so, well, I was interested anyways, because the ADL also has me on their list. 1.00

00:00:55.720 And so I'm quite fascinated by people who earn their ire. And this book made me realize why that might have been.

00:01:02.460 I'm just going to read you a little bit here that I have highlighted that I find to be fascinating.

00:01:08.580 Unlike Aristotle, who argued that men were slaves, which is to say by nature, Augustine took a radically moral view of the issue.

00:01:17.760 Man was free as long as he was moral, which is to say acting according to the dictates of practical reason.

00:01:24.100 It is clear, he wrote in City of God, that sin is the primary cause of servitude.

00:01:29.920 That means a good man, though a slave, is free, but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave, for he serves as many masters as he has vices.

00:01:40.320 Another quotation here, it says absolute freedom is actually a form of bondage.

00:01:46.020 A man can become enslaved to his desires.

00:01:49.300 Such a person has indentured and enslaved his soul and spirit to his lusts and tempers.

00:01:55.320 And this part, I think I loved the most, it says here that according to Augustine, which is something that he proposed in his book, The City of God,

00:02:04.760 all of history could be reduced to two options, symbolized by two cities.

00:02:08.960 The city of God is based on love of God to the extinction of self.

00:02:13.680 And the city of man is based on love of self to the extinction of God.

00:02:19.260 And then E. Michael Jones writes, the distinction I'm trying to make here is like the difference between Jesus Christ and Dracula.

00:02:26.860 Christ shed his blood so that we might have eternal life.

00:02:31.100 Dracula sheds your blood so that he can have eternal life.

00:02:36.440 Fascinating.

00:02:37.780 E. Michael Jones, welcome to The Candace Show.

00:02:40.860 Thank you, Candace.

00:02:41.620 Great to be here.

00:02:42.320 I am so pleased to have you on here to speak about pornography and this book.

00:02:48.880 And this is, by the way, the second edition of this book.

00:02:51.340 You had written this book and had theorized a lot about pornography as a spiritual weapon.

00:02:58.200 I wouldn't even say it's a theory.

00:02:59.180 It's just a fact.

00:03:00.180 And then thereafter, this event happened in 2002, which made you recognize how correct you were.

00:03:07.760 Can you talk about that?

00:03:08.720 Yeah, so the first edition came out 25 years ago and was greeted with skepticism.

00:03:17.460 And then I was saying it's a form of control.

00:03:21.700 And no, no, it's freedom.

00:03:23.200 And then I was talking about pornography in this regard.

00:03:27.040 And then after the book came out, the Israelis invaded Ramallah.

00:03:33.520 And one of the first things they did was take over the TV stations and they started broadcasting pornography from the TV stations.

00:03:40.260 Now, how does this fit with the American understanding of pornography?

00:03:45.080 I mean, Larry Flint, they did a movie about him.

00:03:48.240 And he said, no one's free unless I can produce pornography.

00:03:51.120 So pornography means freedom.

00:03:53.420 So you mean the Israelis are bringing freedom to the Palestinians by doing this?

00:03:59.260 No, it's the exact opposite.

00:04:00.740 It was an admission after the fact, three years after the book comes out.

00:04:05.540 Then they finally have the, I have the, the, the incident that proves what I'm saying is, is accurate.

00:04:11.700 It's a form of control.

00:04:13.160 They wanted to derange the Palestinian youth by having them look at pornography so that they couldn't organize and fight this Israeli oppression.

00:04:22.420 So I gave this speech after the first edition, I gave it in, in, I gave it in, in Switzerland and there were Palestinians in the audience and they came up to me and said, it was much worse than what you said. 1.00

00:04:35.300 There were snipers on the roof.

00:04:36.840 If you came out, they would shoot you.

00:04:38.380 We know now that they do this kind of stuff because it's in the news every day now, but this was, was news.

00:04:43.600 And so they were forced to watch pornography.

00:04:45.700 Why'd they want to do that?

00:04:46.720 Because they knew exactly what St. Augustine said.

00:04:50.020 They wanted to get them to get addicted to pornography so they could control them. 0.96

00:04:54.140 It's that simple.

00:04:55.520 So what is the meaning of libido dominandi, just to reduce this to its Latin understanding?

00:05:00.900 It's the dominating lust or it's the lust to dominate.

00:05:04.860 And so, as I said, there are two, there are two options, the city of God and the city of man.

00:05:10.260 The city of God is based on love and service, love of your fellow man and service to your fellow man.

00:05:18.260 Well, the city of man has to be the opposite.

00:05:21.560 Well, what's that?

00:05:22.420 The opposite is domination.

00:05:24.820 You're here to dominate other people for your good.

00:05:29.600 That's the demonic alternative to the city of God.

00:05:32.920 And you start speaking about really how this merged with psychology, but I want to start with France, where it seems like every bad idea and every, every sexual bad idea kind of arrived out of France into America.

00:05:48.520 But it's interesting to learn how many of the greatest perverts were then sort of idolized as they, as we began formulating modern psychology and this theory that, you know, sex was about freedom.

00:06:04.520 I'm trying to, I believe, wrongly, and I think there's a lot of evidence that it is wrong, that sex somehow frees people and how the psychologists kind of introduced this concept that, you know, you're just not free enough because you haven't gotten in touch with your physical self.

00:06:21.760 And really your physical self, you're talking about your, your, your, your lower self, your, your lower instincts.

00:06:28.040 So I wanted you to speak a little bit about psychology and sex and kind of where, I guess, the, the modern version of sex actually stems from, where, when we started seeing people write things that I would describe as sexual deviancy and the derivative, or I guess the origin of the word sadistic, where it actually comes from.

00:06:48.540 All right. So basically you have to go to the traditional understanding of the soul, which is basically logos, ethos, pathos.

00:06:56.400 So you have reason at the top, and then you have will, and then you have passion.

00:07:01.560 And there's nothing wrong with passion. We were, they were created to drive us forward.

00:07:06.180 It's like the energy. And the classic example of this was the horse, the rider on the horse.

00:07:10.960 The horse, the rider is, can, the horse is a good thing. It's a powerful thing, but it's also a dangerous thing if you let the horse control your, your, your movements.

00:07:21.680 And that's why you have the will or the bit in the horse's mouth.

00:07:25.300 When you're talking about the French revolution, you're talking about a revolution, which means you turn things upside down.

00:07:31.040 So now you put passion at the top and passion now controls reason.

00:07:36.520 Well, the Greeks knew about that. I mean, Hippolytus, Euripides, there's a man who always is in control of his horse.

00:07:43.540 And then a monster comes up and he gets trampled to death by his own horses.

00:07:46.980 You can get trampled to death by your horses if you allow passion to be in control.

00:07:51.760 Well, if the revolution takes place, what was down at the bottom comes at the top.

00:07:56.160 And the man who understood the implications of this in France was the Marquis de Sade, who had been basically incarcerated because he was incorrigible.

00:08:05.520 He was a danger to society. They never had a trial.

00:08:08.820 They just put him there and he ended up in the Bastille at this crucial moment in French history.

00:08:14.240 Now, the moment was prepared for by pornography.

00:08:18.460 Pornography was one of the main impetuses to the French Revolution.

00:08:23.060 The duke's the king's cousin, the Duke d'Orléans, had a place called the Palais Royale where no laws were enforced and they started producing pornography,

00:08:34.120 specifically pornography dealing with Marie Antoinette, who was the queen, having her engage with sex with soldiers and horses and stuff like that.

00:08:42.600 And it was an attack on the dignity of the monarchy.

00:08:46.140 And this is de Sade steps in at this point.

00:08:48.900 He's been incarcerated for years. He's writing books.

00:08:51.140 He's writing pornographic books.

00:08:54.080 He wrote the classic, the classic pornographic book, which everyone read during the 19th century.

00:09:01.540 And in it, it's kind of like pornography interspersed with rationalization.

00:09:06.380 And he comes to formulate kind of the theory of rationalism, of pornography.

00:09:11.280 And he says that the moral man is at rest, but the immoral man is in a state of perpetual unrest.

00:09:18.820 Augustine would have said that. He would agree.

00:09:21.140 But now what do you, you want perpetual unrest because you want a revolution.

00:09:24.900 You want to mobilize the forces against the king.

00:09:28.500 You want to overthrow the established order.

00:09:31.020 And the engine that's going to do this is sexual liberation.

00:09:34.300 The French Revolution was in first and foremost a sexual revolution.

00:09:38.140 Wordsworth, the poet, went over and fathered an illegitimate child because everyone's doing it over here now. 0.89

00:09:44.060 And but the man who mobilized it with the Marquis de Sade.

00:09:47.540 And so there's a reaction, the Catholic reaction in the West.

00:09:51.740 Is the basically the Vendée is marching on Paris.

00:09:55.380 They eventually get slaughtered by Napoleon, who then becomes the great leader.

00:09:58.720 But he writes a little essay in which he says, we have to stimulate passion because the revolution is based on passion.

00:10:06.660 And so what we need to do is exhibit women naked in the theater because this will stimulate passion. 1.00

00:10:13.100 So this is kind of like pornography.

00:10:14.960 But you've got a technological problem here, OK, because if you have a big theater and you're in the last row, you can't really see the lady.

00:10:23.820 If you have a small theater, you're not mobilizing a lot of men.

00:10:26.680 And this would be eventually solved by technology. 0.93

00:10:29.880 You have Marquis de Sade and he's in France and he's a total sexual deviant. 0.58

00:10:33.900 And he wrote really just forms of sexual deviancy, sometimes even mixed with crime. 0.83

00:10:37.840 Like, I mean, like, and again, Marquis de Sade, the word in the term sadistic actually derives from him, Sade, sadistic.

00:10:46.060 And you're correct.

00:10:47.120 He understood that you could sort of fish out these passions in people and put them in a permanent state of unrest and a state of revolution.

00:10:54.380 But they were limited by the fact that there weren't screens and there wasn't technology.

00:10:59.860 And then you sort of see his image, despite the fact that he was a pervert and known to be a pervert and a criminal throughout his life, get sort of rehabilitated by psychologists.

00:11:11.560 And you write about one of those psychologists, Wilhelm, I'm blanking on the last name.

00:11:16.940 Reich, Wilhelm Reich.

00:11:18.000 Wilhelm Reich.

00:11:18.560 There's a direct line from the Marquis de Sade through Bataille to Foucault, who became the guru of philosopher in the 1970s.

00:11:28.960 But as you said, there was a second step.

00:11:34.780 It was, again, revolution.

00:11:36.740 The man who created the term sexual revolution was Wilhelm Reich, and he created it in the 1930s.

00:11:42.800 Now, he's in Austria now.

00:11:43.960 He's in Vienna.

00:11:45.000 And Vienna is, you know, it's like the Viennese Jews versus the Catholics in the countryside. 0.98

00:11:51.120 And he's a communist and he's a Freudian.

00:11:56.360 And he found that whenever he tried to get people together to talk about the third thesis of the Fourth International, everybody left the room.

00:12:06.220 Nobody was bored.

00:12:06.900 But he could always get a crowd to talk about sex.

00:12:09.540 And so sex became the mobilizing device for the revolution. 0.65

00:12:13.500 Now, this is now we're talking about the Russian revolution, second big revolution.

00:12:17.140 And so he started talking about how do you deal with the situation in Austria, which is Catholic.

00:12:25.320 Go to the Catholic priest.

00:12:26.660 Go to the Catholic seminarians.

00:12:28.320 Okay.

00:12:28.520 But don't debate the existence of God with a Catholic seminarian because you always lose. 0.79

00:12:33.920 Don't do that. 1.00

00:12:35.220 Get the Catholic seminarian involved in masturbation. 1.00

00:12:39.160 That's what he says. 0.99

00:12:39.920 And he comes up with this thesis, little incident that he talks about, because either you masturbate or you pray, but you don't do both. 0.71

00:12:48.560 And if you can get people to change their sexual habits, he said, the idea of God will evaporate from the seminarian's mind.

00:12:55.940 And that's a crucial term because Reich became very influential after that, after he came over here.

00:13:02.860 He had a huge influence over here.

00:13:07.000 And I think in many ways he's the father of the new left because the new left was sexual.

00:13:13.300 Foucault was part of that thing.

00:13:14.820 You know, we're not going to talk about taking over the means of production anymore. 0.98

00:13:18.120 Let's take over the culture, and we'll take over the culture by spreading pornography because that creates masturbation, and masturbation causes people not to pray, and that will destroy the Catholic Church. 0.96

00:13:29.700 That's kind of the whole theory in a nutshell. 0.98

00:13:32.020 And it is funny that you say the Catholic Church because I think people might hear that and go, oh, that's just like a conspiracy.

00:13:36.360 But what's quite fascinating is, and you can even look this up on Wikipedia, but the pornographers, the early pornographers in America, you had this guy named Al Goldstein who quite literally said, and it's on his Wikipedia page, like, we Jews created and got into the pornography business to crush the Catholic Church because we hate Christianity and we hate Jesus Christ.

00:13:57.120 That's a direct quote. 0.99

00:13:58.560 The direct quote is, Christ sucks. 1.00

00:14:00.540 Christ sucks. 1.00

00:14:01.660 Where Jews are in pornography because Christ sucks. 1.00

00:14:04.020 Christ sucks. 1.00

00:14:04.540 And then when people, when you hear that, and that's so obviously anti-Christian, they say, well, you talking about it is anti-Semitic. 0.99

00:14:12.880 Talking about how somebody hates me is somehow you're not allowed to know the history of pornography and that it was meant to quite literally be a spiritual weapon to corrupt people's spirits, and it's been largely successful.

00:14:26.220 Now, you say Wilhelm Reich, he is kind of the people who studied the school of Sigmund Freud.

00:14:32.300 I landed in a lot of hot water on my previous show when I really quite surprisingly was learning about Sigmund Freud and discovered that not only was he a pervert who was very likely molested by his father, he then was in a homosexual affair with his best friend, Wilhelm Fleece, who molested his son.

00:14:51.180 And he also then was covering for a bunch of pedophiles who had molested their children, molested their daughters and their sons.

00:14:59.320 And I learned that because I stumbled upon Jeffrey Massone, who was the director of the Sigmund Freud archives, did everything right in his life, went to Harvard, Jewish psychologist, and was very pleased to work under Anna Freud.

00:15:15.780 And decided when she said, you're going to be the next director of the Freud archives, to learn German.

00:15:22.220 And he learned German and starts going through all of these archives that have never been made public and is shocked to discover that Sigmund Freud was covering for pedophiles.

00:15:30.120 Like this wasn't children who were, like his theory is, who were just attracted to their parents, which is totally a bonkers theory.

00:15:39.560 But these people weren't lying.

00:15:41.480 The people that he was seeing were molested by their children.

00:15:43.900 He then brought that to the public thinking, oh my gosh, wait until we realize that we've got this, the origins of the psychoanalytic movement wrong.

00:15:51.520 And the exact opposite thing happened.

00:15:53.720 The media turned on him.

00:15:55.060 He was kicked out of the Freud archive center.

00:15:57.660 And he then was in a 10-year lawsuit because the media was smearing and libeling him.

00:16:03.840 And he fought them for 10 years, won, and then it was appealed, and then he lost.

00:16:08.460 It was an unbelievably expensive lawsuit.

00:16:10.620 And he was so shocked by the fact that he was trying to bring to the forefront that pedophilia had happened and got kicked out of the psychoanalytic club.

00:16:20.860 So what are we to make of that?

00:16:24.560 Well, there was a big crisis in Freud studies because Freud basically covered his tracks.

00:16:30.800 He didn't want anyone to know where he got the ideas.

00:16:33.760 So if you talk, he got ideas from Nietzsche, the whole idea of the Oedipus complex, the whole idea of incest as the way to become a god comes from Nietzsche.

00:16:44.220 It's in The Birth of Tragedy, that powerful passage at the end of The Birth of Tragedy.

00:16:48.080 But I think that the crucial start for Freud was the Illuminati manuscripts.

00:16:58.080 Now, there was an Illuminati.

00:16:59.760 It did exist as a secret society in Bavaria during the late 18th century.

00:17:06.420 And the documents were found, and they were published by the king of Bavaria as a way of preventing this from happening.

00:17:16.320 It was a man by the name of Adam Weishaupt, and Adam Weishaupt was a teacher at the University of Eichstätt.

00:17:21.820 And it was a Jesuit university, and he was aware of the Jesuit examination of conscience.

00:17:29.740 So before you go to confession, you examine your conscience, and then you come up with the sins, and then you confess the sins, and then the priest says, go and sin no more.

00:17:39.340 Well, this got weaponized.

00:17:40.720 The same thing I said about Freud and Augustine.

00:17:43.140 It got turned upside down so that now he comes up with this idea called Zehlenanalyse, which is the German word for examination of the soul, and he turns it into psychoanalysis.

00:17:56.160 But Freud turned it into psychoanalysis.

00:17:58.800 But basically what he's saying is you can take these, get the person to confess his sins to you, and then you can control them through his sins.

00:18:09.100 So you can say, well, you know, you can do it again as long as you keep me in the loop, and we'll take care of that.

00:18:16.080 And that's how the Illuminati got control of these people.

00:18:19.780 This is exactly what Freud did, exactly what Freud did, and he did exactly what his goy, his Gentile heir apparent Jung, C.G. Jung, was supposed to do. 0.99

00:18:32.880 Well, that's interesting.

00:18:33.620 So I actually haven't learned too much about Carl Jung, and I think he's still respected by a lot of people.

00:18:41.600 So just illuminate me, like, let me know more about him.

00:18:44.900 Because they then had a fractured relationship toward the end.

00:18:47.720 Yeah, and they go into this, and there's supposed to be this scene where suddenly there's crackling in the bookshelf or something like that.

00:18:55.460 And it basically came down to Freud was an atheist, but Jung believed in some type of God.

00:19:01.420 I don't know what it is, but some type of spiritual force.

00:19:03.740 His mother was a medium.

00:19:06.080 She was involved in the whole occult tradition, so he brought that into it.

00:19:10.160 But basically what we're talking about here is how do you control people?

00:19:14.580 And we're going to talk about specific instances here.

00:19:18.120 Rich Americans, they got a lot of money.

00:19:21.360 We're talking about the 1920s. 1.00

00:19:23.100 The currency here is crap. 0.99

00:19:24.800 They got a lot of real money. 0.99

00:19:26.940 And so Freud and Jung became involved in competition for who's going to get the rich Americans.

00:19:33.000 And I think Freud, I'm sorry, Jung won the battle because he got involved with Maedal McCormick, the heir to the International Harvester Foundation, and his sister, Edith Rockefeller, sister-in-law, Edith Rockefeller McCormick.

00:19:48.140 And they were both troubled.

00:19:49.660 Now, people are going to be troubled.

00:19:51.660 If you cut yourself off from sacramental confession, you cannot get your sins forgiven.

00:19:57.200 This is the whole story of America, which we could talk about another time.

00:20:00.160 You go crazy when you don't get your sins forgiven.

00:20:02.620 And so you need some type of release because the guilt becomes intolerable.

00:20:06.280 And so you go to confession.

00:20:08.020 Well, now you can do the exact opposite.

00:20:10.540 So Maedal McCormick comes to Jung and he says, well, I've been sleeping with all these actresses. 0.93

00:20:15.940 And Jung says, OK, you can keep doing it as long as you come and pay me these big fees.

00:20:22.780 And then Edith Rockefeller McCormick gives him a lot of money, builds his foundation.

00:20:27.140 And Freud is furious because he's taking over his operation.

00:20:32.240 Freud is involved in the same thing.

00:20:34.960 Freud wrote to Fleece, invited him to Berlin.

00:20:37.600 And Freud said, I'd love to come, but I'm afraid my patients will get well in my absence.

00:20:42.100 He had one day, it's like he had a picture of a lion.

00:20:47.060 And the subtitle is, it's already noon and no Negroes. 1.00

00:20:51.820 In other words, I haven't eaten anyone yet. 0.58

00:20:54.000 So he's preying on his own people.

00:20:56.360 This came out long after the fact, long after the whole Freud thing.

00:21:02.120 The Johns Hopkins University published the correspondence between an American psychoanalyst named Horace

00:21:09.380 Frink and Freud.

00:21:10.960 Frink was a doctor.

00:21:13.140 Frink wanted to become a psychoanalyst.

00:21:15.460 In order to become a psychoanalyst, you have to go to Vienna.

00:21:18.120 You have to lie down on the couch and you have to tell Freud your history.

00:21:21.700 Well, we're back to the Illuminati here.

00:21:23.220 It's like the examination of conscience.

00:21:25.420 And Frink tells him, well, I'm having an affair with one of my rich patients.

00:21:32.020 So instead of Freud saying this is unethical, you know, you can't sleep with your patients.

00:21:36.220 He says, divorce your wife, marry this rich woman, and then give me a significant contribution.

00:21:44.260 That's the whole Freudian thing in a nutshell.

00:21:48.020 Okay.

00:21:48.340 All of this mumbo jumbo is to control people for your benefit, which is exactly what I said

00:21:53.100 about libido dominandi. 0.62

00:21:54.340 So it's almost a perfect inversion of the church because it's a church of Satan. 0.54

00:22:00.540 And so you're basically where you have priests and said you have these satanic priests and

00:22:05.080 they keep telling you to keep giving into your lust, keep giving into your lust.

00:22:08.120 And this is why, by the way, I am totally, I think, psychotherapy, psychoanalysis, and

00:22:13.940 you can trace everything back that's happening in society to essentially that's what happens

00:22:17.840 today.

00:22:18.200 How do we get to this transgender problem? 1.00

00:22:20.440 We have a bunch of kids going to therapy and they're not making them better.

00:22:24.220 They're telling them that every feeling you have is valid.

00:22:26.820 Every libido instinct that you have is valid.

00:22:29.800 If you think this, then it's right.

00:22:31.160 Go be you.

00:22:32.040 Go be your best self.

00:22:33.080 Again, that city of man that's being created.

00:22:35.420 Like, worship yourself and every instinct that you have.

00:22:38.060 Do not temper your desires.

00:22:39.940 Lean into them.

00:22:41.180 And people don't understand what we read earlier, which is that eventually you become weaker

00:22:47.440 and weaker and you become a slave to your desires because you have absolutely no control and

00:22:52.760 you have essentially dominated the logos and you're just sort of living in this fear that

00:22:58.720 is fully driven by desire.

00:23:01.780 Right.

00:23:02.400 I think that that's the whole point.

00:23:04.900 Anyone who tells you to give into your passions is talking to turning you into a slave.

00:23:09.800 And so what you have over this period of time is the development of technologies of control

00:23:15.600 that will culminate in social engineering.

00:23:18.580 It will culminate in the mainstreaming of pornography.

00:23:22.440 Just I'm reluctant to quote this.

00:23:25.240 I saw it on the Internet just briefly.

00:23:26.760 But there's two groups, two brothers, the Krasenstein brothers, and one of them just spilled the beans.

00:23:32.840 He said, we need to have the goyim watching pornography because otherwise they will put us in concentration camps. 1.00

00:23:38.800 That may not be an exact quote.

00:23:40.500 They will attack us.

00:23:41.520 They will beat us up.

00:23:42.380 Something like that.

00:23:43.420 And so we have to enslave them to distract them by getting them watching pornography enslaved to their passion.

00:23:50.500 That's exactly what the Israelis attempted to do in Gaza. 0.56

00:23:54.920 I'm sorry, in Ramallah.

00:23:56.240 That's exactly what they tried to do.

00:23:58.040 So the technology is out.

00:23:59.900 It's as if these people were spilling the beans about private conversations.

00:24:03.980 There are people who know these things.

00:24:05.560 There are people who have been putting these things into practice, but they're not going to tell you because if they tell you, well, I'm doing this to control you, it doesn't work.

00:24:14.320 It only works if you don't know.

00:24:16.720 So I just randomly, I pull up at the supermarket.

00:24:20.340 I'm locking my bicycle.

00:24:21.800 And some guy says to me, you're E. Michael Jones, aren't you?

00:24:26.080 I said, yeah. 0.76

00:24:26.780 He said, I stopped watching porn because of you.

00:24:29.060 Now, I never talked to this guy, but sometimes all you have to say is sexual liberation is a form of control.

00:24:36.320 And suddenly the people, I didn't have to explain this to the generation in 2019, to the generation that had grown up with their cell phones as access to pornography.

00:24:46.220 They understood that they were slaves.

00:24:48.160 They came up with this thing called NoFap November.

00:24:51.200 We're a number of people.

00:24:52.740 We're not going to watch pornography. 0.99

00:24:54.000 We're not going to masturbate. 0.99

00:24:55.680 And lo and behold, Rolling Stone attacks these people and calls them anti-Semites. 0.98

00:25:02.900 Well, wait a minute.

00:25:03.640 You just let the cat out of the bag here. 0.98

00:25:05.520 Are you saying that Jews control pornography? 0.99

00:25:07.140 Well, yeah, of course you are. 0.99

00:25:08.340 And of course they do.

00:25:09.820 They have from the beginning.

00:25:10.900 There's a guy, professor of the University of Pennsylvania, wrote a book called Bookleggers and Smut Hounds, scholarly book. 0.88

00:25:18.520 He said Jews have controlled pornography from the beginning. 0.67

00:25:21.160 That is the one way they weaken the dominant culture, and that allows them to take control.

00:25:28.540 Well, I don't think that they deny that, by the way.

00:25:30.120 There's tons of footage on the Internet of pornography directors discussing that and saying we control the pornography industry.

00:25:36.700 Now, not many of them give a reason as to why that is, but I definitely don't think that that's something that can be disputed.

00:25:43.060 There's a rabbi who owns Pornhub. 0.94

00:25:45.480 Or started Pornhub.

00:25:46.380 Now they say, oh, well, I fact-checked that because then he sold it to a private equity firm, and that's kind of now it doesn't own it.

00:25:52.680 But, yeah, it begs the question, what are the requirements to be a rabbi?

00:25:56.700 Because everyone that I've come across has been a bit wacky, to be honest with you.

00:25:59.560 Right.

00:25:59.880 I know.

00:26:00.180 You've had your own experience with rabbis recently.

00:26:02.660 Yes.

00:26:03.020 So, what does this say about a rabbi?

00:26:06.320 What does this say about his religion if he's promoting something that everyone recognizes as evil and debilitating?

00:26:13.600 What does that say?

00:26:15.100 We're just drawing the implications now, I think, because there are implications from these statements.

00:26:20.960 It's like the Jews announcing that abortion is a fundamental Jewish value. 0.94

00:26:25.300 That was the quintessential requirement for sexual liberation, to be able to have an abortion so you didn't have to face up to the consequences of that sexual intercourse that you had. 0.76

00:26:36.260 And now suddenly it's being portrayed as a fundamental value by Jews. 0.51

00:26:39.480 We have to understand this and draw the implications.

00:26:42.180 Well, what's interesting, though, is when you think about a rabbi starting a Pornhub and then maybe selling it, it does bring into question what is your faith? 0.91

00:26:56.040 Like, what do you actually believe that you can become a rabbi?

00:26:59.200 Because it's unimaginable that there would be a Catholic priest that would be allowed to start Pornhub and maintain the title of a Catholic priest.

00:27:08.460 And this gets into kind of realizing that there are, which people I don't think recognize, a lot of different sects when it comes to Judaism.

00:27:18.060 But your theory is that all of it is sort of, I don't want to put words in your mouth here because there was a specific word that you used, but not contrary to Christianity, but it agitates Christianity no matter what.

00:27:34.240 Like, these two philosophies are incompatible, no matter what.

00:27:39.280 Well, it's another book I wrote, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, which followed after this book.

00:27:45.900 You know, it's about 10 years after I wrote that book.

00:27:48.780 But I had, if I thought, I'm thinking, if I'm going to talk about this, I have to get back to the, what's the basic issue?

00:27:55.200 And the basic issue is not racial.

00:27:56.960 It's theological, and the theological issue came to a head when Jesus Christ arrived on this earth, and he's the Messiah, and the Jews have to make a decision.

00:28:09.940 Do we accept this man on his terms as the Messiah, or do we want something, someone better?

00:28:15.360 And if you go to the Gospel of St. John, there's a big dispute between Jesus Christ and the Jews, and they play the race card. 1.00

00:28:21.280 They say, we are the seed of Abraham.

00:28:24.700 You can't push us around.

00:28:26.540 And Jesus Christ said, God doesn't need your DNA.

00:28:29.260 Didn't quite say it that way, but I mean, he could raise up rocks.

00:28:31.980 And so the crucial issue is, who is Jesus Christ?

00:28:35.400 He's the Logos incarnate.

00:28:37.760 And what is your position with the Logos incarnate?

00:28:41.140 Do you accept him, or do you reject him?

00:28:43.540 And I'm saying that the Jews who accepted him became the Catholic Church, the Christians, and the Jews who rejected him have been in rebellion against Logos ever since. 0.67

00:28:54.000 And so there is this, Logos means the order of the universe that God created.

00:28:58.960 And if you're in rebellion against that, you're a revolutionary.

00:29:02.460 Well, they're revolutionaries.

00:29:03.700 They are, and that's why I called the book The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit.

00:29:07.240 And you have something like the Bolshevik Revolution.

00:29:09.380 You know, that was a Jewish, that was a Jewish operation.

00:29:12.960 It wasn't saying every Bolshevik was a Jew or every Jew was a Bolshevik, but it was a Jewish operation. 0.88

00:29:18.640 And the thing that got me started on that book was the neoconservative press to get us involved in the war in Iraq.

00:29:26.040 How did this happen?

00:29:27.960 How did such a small group of people get control of the entire foreign policy to the point where we invaded a country that didn't have anything to, wasn't doing anything against it?

00:29:36.960 Well, yeah, the neocon movement is just not conservative whatsoever.

00:29:41.580 And I think people are starting to come to terms with that.

00:29:43.820 And it is interesting because I could not verify this fact.

00:29:47.780 I can't find a picture.

00:29:49.100 But I thought it was really interesting.

00:29:50.340 The neocons love William F. Buckley.

00:29:52.620 Like, that's like, this is what it means to be a neocon.

00:29:55.640 We think William F. Buckley has the greatest ideas.

00:29:58.300 And I love that Tucker Carlson said I think he's actually one of the great villains of the 20th century.

00:30:02.660 But I then, when I was researching that guy, Al Goldstein, this pornographer, I realized that he started Screw Magazine with somebody named James Buckley.

00:30:12.420 Yeah.

00:30:12.780 And I don't know who James Buckley is.

00:30:13.900 I can't find a picture.

00:30:14.700 I can't find a photo.

00:30:15.320 I don't think they're related.

00:30:16.400 Okay, because there is in the same family.

00:30:18.820 There's, of course, they could not be related.

00:30:20.220 I don't know.

00:30:20.480 But I can't find anything on this person.

00:30:22.160 And I'm just, like, wondering what is, what's going on there?

00:30:25.040 Who's James Buckley who started, who was involved in the pornography industry?

00:30:27.960 I don't think he had anything to do with William F. Buckley, but William F. Buckley was a man who created conservatism.

00:30:35.760 He created conservatism.

00:30:37.240 And this is in 1953.

00:30:38.980 I know the guy, he wrote a book called God and Man at Yale.

00:30:43.820 Henry Regnery was the publisher.

00:30:45.580 I was a friend of Henry Regnery before he died.

00:30:48.800 He also published Russell Kirk's book, The Conservative Mind, in the same year.

00:30:53.320 Some people claimed that Buckley did it with CIA money.

00:30:56.620 I asked Joe Sober in that when he was alive.

00:30:59.280 It's debatable.

00:31:00.140 Buckley was in the CIA.

00:31:01.720 But anyway, what were they created was a new form of conservatism to distance everyone from America first, which I think was the real form of conservatism.

00:31:10.060 Of course it was.

00:31:10.520 Henry Regnery's father was the treasurer for America first.

00:31:15.120 And on December 8, 1941, the CIA showed, the FBI showed up and took his mailing list and that killed America first.

00:31:23.820 Okay, so something new came in and this thing, new thing is favorite.

00:31:28.300 America first was isolationist.

00:31:30.460 Now we got this, we're backing the anti-communist crusade.

00:31:34.580 And then Buckley went on to become the spokesman for conservatism.

00:31:39.120 But the tragedy is that they yanked his chain.

00:31:45.340 When Joe Sober in started writing articles critical of Israel, they yanked Buckley's chain.

00:31:51.080 And he wrote an article denouncing Pat Buchanan, who was the big representative of America first at this point, and Joe Sober.

00:32:00.340 And Joe Sober and idolized Bill Buckley, and he stabbed him in the back because the Jews yanked his chain. 0.80

00:32:09.120 It's that simple.

00:32:10.040 And so he just went along, and now it just became irrelevant.

00:32:14.920 It became irrelevant.

00:32:16.360 The ultimate irrelevancy was when this group of people at National Review announced that Donald Trump is not a real conservative, and that he wins, becomes president.

00:32:25.780 So now what do you do?

00:32:27.140 Now what do you do?

00:32:27.940 These guys are completely irrelevant.

00:32:29.220 Robbie George, who was one of the people who, I think he's the guy who masterminded that manifesto, just announced that no Catholic can be an anti-Semite.

00:32:41.980 Catholics should not be anti-Semite.

00:32:43.800 Didn't define the term.

00:32:45.560 Okay, what do you mean by this?

00:32:47.400 I mean, you were attacked.

00:32:49.260 I had to jump in at this point because the Catholic, I mean, you're basically partly the water of baptism is still moist on your forehead.

00:32:58.240 And these people want to excommunicate you because they come up with this idea that you're an anti-Semite.

00:33:03.640 What does that mean?

00:33:05.120 We have to define this term.

00:33:06.840 We can't let ourselves be bullied anymore by this term.

00:33:09.720 It's just, we're past that.

00:33:11.160 Yeah, I think all across the board, people are tired of it.

00:33:13.640 I said it was sort of like when BLM, everybody was a racist, and now we're kind of getting into, and then people got tired of calling everybody a racist, and nobody cared anymore.

00:33:21.060 And I think we're finally arriving at that point with anti-Semitism.

00:33:23.740 It's like you're just saying everyone's an anti-Semite, which means that nobody's actually an anti-Semite, and you're just trying to assert control because you can't actually argue the ideas.

00:33:30.780 Yes, that's right.

00:33:32.040 There was a crucial moment in the Catholic Church where the Catholic Church stood up to the Jews in Hollywood, and it was 1933, and it was the Legion of Decency. 0.85

00:33:43.280 So the entire country in the 1920s is very upset about the movies that are coming out of Hollywood because it's nudity.

00:33:50.900 We don't know this anymore.

00:33:52.260 I mentioned a book to you where you can find out the pre-code films, and they were pushing homosexuality. 1.00

00:33:58.200 They were pushing ridicule of clergy.

00:33:59.820 They're pushing nudity. 0.97

00:34:00.740 They're pushing obscenity, and the Protestants, who were the dominant group, they got Will Hayes. 0.99

00:34:05.660 They tried to stop it, but they failed, and then the Catholics stood up to the Jews. 0.73

00:34:10.680 They basically called for a boycott of Cardinal Dougherty of Philadelphia, called for a boycott of Warner Brothers theaters in Philadelphia, and Joe Breen, who was the man in Hollywood negotiating this, said Harry Warner is crying tears as big as horse turds because he's losing $100,000 a week in Philadelphia.

00:34:34.880 Now, that threatened to go to New York, to Chicago, to Cleveland, to every big city in the Northeast that had a big Catholic population, and that was going to be the end of Hollywood. 0.56

00:34:45.720 And so Hollywood backed down.

00:34:46.980 They instituted the production code.

00:34:49.020 Now, that was successful for 32 years.

00:34:52.000 For 32 years, you didn't have it.

00:34:54.180 Maybe the golden age of Hollywood.

00:34:56.120 Hollywood's not doing well now with woke superhero movies.

00:35:00.800 They're not doing well.

00:35:01.660 They don't know how to deal this.

00:35:03.780 So it kept Hollywood in line, but they didn't like this.

00:35:09.900 They were always, and finally, they saw their moment.

00:35:12.240 The moment was the Second Vatican Council.

00:35:14.540 There seems to be this type of new movement approach to the Jews.

00:35:17.900 It's in Nostra Tate.

00:35:19.800 And they released a Holocaust film called The Pawn Broker. 0.90

00:35:23.900 And in The Pawn Broker, it's basically, there's a black prostitute walks into the pawn shop, and she opens her shirt, bare breast on the screen, breaks the code. 0.89

00:35:35.980 And so Monsignor, I saw the correspondence between Monsignor Little, who is head of Legion of Decency, and Eli Landau, who is the producer. 0.95

00:35:44.720 And he said, shoot it from behind, have the black prostitute with her back toward the camera, and then put Rod Steiger's face in the frame. 0.93

00:35:52.820 And that way, you'll get some acting. 0.99

00:35:54.660 It's a much more, no, they didn't want to do that.

00:35:56.600 They didn't want drama.

00:35:57.280 They wanted bare breast on the screen, because that's how they're going to make more money. 1.00

00:36:01.440 And they also were using the Holocaust as the hammer that was going to intimidate the Catholics. 0.80

00:36:07.860 And the Catholics ran up the white flag.

00:36:10.680 They had a failure of nerve.

00:36:12.320 And within, so Landau says to Monsignor Little, this will be a great era of cinematic art.

00:36:18.360 Within seven years, we had Deep Throat, First Run Theaters, Devil and Miss Jones. 0.60

00:36:25.380 We had hardcore pornography on the big stream, because that's what they wanted. 0.71

00:36:29.360 And it's only gotten worse since that time.

00:36:32.600 As soon as you get the computer, pornography is always driven by technology.

00:36:37.520 As soon as you get the computer, you have VHS.

00:36:40.040 Pornography drove VHS sales.

00:36:42.100 Then you have the Internet, and then you have the Communications Decency Act.

00:36:45.320 Hollywood comes up with two propaganda films, People vs. Larry Frient and Boogie Nights.

00:36:52.060 And they exempt, they allow pornography on the Internet.

00:36:57.260 That fateful decision, and now you've got all these young people who grew up with easy access to pornography.

00:37:03.720 It's a crisis now, because they cannot relate to members of the opposite sex, because sin isolates you. 0.95

00:37:10.280 This type of sin isolates you.

00:37:12.600 They cannot form families.

00:37:14.540 There's a huge crisis right now.

00:37:16.260 And they're only now waking up.

00:37:17.960 It was only 2019 when people started saying, well, maybe it is slavery. 0.89

00:37:23.360 Maybe Jones was right when he wrote that book.

00:37:25.580 There is something happening right now, and it's been amazing to see.

00:37:28.780 I've been speaking about pornography, and men have been reacting.

00:37:32.020 And they say in the comments section, thank you so much for talking about this.

00:37:35.360 I struggle with this all the time.

00:37:36.740 And to hear someone speak about this struggle, it gives me faith to know that you're not alone.

00:37:42.080 And I tell them, don't be ashamed because you were targeted, right?

00:37:45.980 You grew up with a phone.

00:37:47.680 They also took over, obviously, the classrooms.

00:37:50.160 It's like Soviet propaganda.

00:37:51.520 And I distinctly remember learning in my health class that watching pornography was healthy,

00:37:56.640 that you should watch pornography, that it is actually healthy to watch pornography because it lets you learn about sex.

00:38:01.820 It's sort of this book that Thomas Sowell writes to explain how they intentionally, and they did use Soviet tactics,

00:38:08.840 tried to put a wedge between children and their parents.

00:38:11.200 Like, your parents are old-fashioned.

00:38:12.760 They don't think this is okay.

00:38:14.440 And within one decade, you had kids that the majority of them were graduating high school with virginity intact,

00:38:19.580 complete reversal within 10 years because they then put all these incentives for health and sexual learning

00:38:26.280 or just teaching you these things because your parents won't do that for you.

00:38:29.160 And so it's incredible to reflect on that and realize that I had this perspective growing up that people,

00:38:35.560 like, of course, if you date a guy, it's totally fine if he watches pornography.

00:38:38.700 That's actually going to keep your relationship healthy.

00:38:40.520 This wasn't my idea.

00:38:41.520 This is what I was taught.

00:38:42.340 You're passing the class, and you're getting that feedback.

00:38:45.340 Like, you know things correctly.

00:38:47.060 You're going to grow up and you're going to have a healthy relationship if you allow your boyfriends to watch pornography,

00:38:51.020 and this is what it looks like.

00:38:52.600 And now I look back on that, and I'm now team homeschool your kids because this is your children's spirits

00:39:00.380 are intentionally being captured in a classroom, and they're introducing these satanic forces.

00:39:07.220 And it is very hard, especially for boys, because they're biologically wired differently from women. 0.99

00:39:14.000 Right.

00:39:14.120 You get them addicted to pornography when they're young, telling them it's good.

00:39:17.680 The odds are stacked against them when they get older.

00:39:21.700 And if it becomes an addiction for them, and for many of them, it has become an addiction because, like I said, pornography is everywhere.

00:39:26.940 My husband doesn't even have social media because he says, I don't think you realize, even if you're reading the Daily Mail,

00:39:32.780 you're seeing softcore pornography.

00:39:34.840 And the way that women dress, what they're putting on the cover, what they're putting everywhere is we've just okayed softcore pornography in society. 1.00

00:39:43.340 No, it's worse than that because of X and Twitter. 0.93

00:39:47.040 It's full of pornography.

00:39:49.140 Elon Musk, God bless Elon Musk, he restored me.

00:39:52.380 I got banned from Twitter.

00:39:53.580 He restored me.

00:39:54.840 You're allowed to say things now on there.

00:39:56.780 But really, you're not doing yourself any favors or us any favors by allowing all this pornography.

00:40:02.660 Why do you think he allows that?

00:40:04.060 That's very interesting to me.

00:40:05.100 I think he's made a deal with the Jews. 0.99

00:40:08.300 I think he went to Auschwitz.

00:40:09.580 You go there to offer up incense to idols.

00:40:12.660 And I think he's instituted what the ADL says, which is basically freedom of speech but not freedom of reach.

00:40:20.140 And I think that part of the deal, it's not explicit, but I think part of the deal is to allow pornography because pornography, as we've established here, is a form of control.

00:40:29.720 And the Jews insist on it. 1.00

00:40:31.620 They insist on having that allowed because they're afraid that if people stop watching pornography, they're all going to be put in concentration camps.

00:40:41.160 This is the type of rhetoric.

00:40:42.480 This was in that thing I quoted you.

00:40:44.500 I'm going to find that article.

00:40:45.440 It said Rolling Stone.

00:40:46.660 Rolling Stone.

00:40:47.340 Yeah, it's easy to find.

00:40:48.440 Okay.

00:40:48.860 We also had a crucial turning point in the so-called women's movement.

00:40:53.060 So you had Catherine McKinnon and Andrea Dworkin saying pornography victimizes women. 0.86

00:40:59.380 Well, duh.

00:41:00.640 That's great.

00:41:01.480 You figured that out.

00:41:02.920 So what happened at that point?

00:41:04.420 It was gaining traction in the feminism. 1.00

00:41:06.500 Guess who stopped it?

00:41:08.320 Betty Friedan.

00:41:09.460 Her maiden name is Betty Goldstein.

00:41:11.740 And then she came and defended pornography. 0.98

00:41:14.360 So this is blood is thicker than water. 0.75

00:41:17.660 This is the Jewish principle here of pornography. 0.99

00:41:20.680 We need this to control the goyim. 1.00

00:41:22.680 And she's the one who did it and spread division in the feminist movement at a time when you were getting allies. 1.00

00:41:31.460 You could have had allies between the right and the left here against pornography.

00:41:35.560 And she disrupted it.

00:41:38.220 Yeah, it's very interesting to see that even on the conservative side and people that you would say describe themselves as ultra conservative will still defend pornography.

00:41:47.900 I think Dennis Prager defends pornography.

00:41:49.100 Yeah, Ben Shapiro defends pornography.

00:41:51.560 I remember sitting across from him at a backstage event and me and the Catholics.

00:41:56.000 I was not a Catholic at the time, but me and Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh were all saying no to pornography, like not even a couple of times.

00:42:04.840 And then Ben was kind of giving this soft defense and saying, well, you know, Jewish people, it's down to the law.

00:42:11.280 And we wouldn't say I want to get the exact argument of why Jewish people don't find it to be problematic.

00:42:16.440 I think he said that it was because it's it's the thing, not the thought.

00:42:22.720 That's the sin.

00:42:24.200 And so since they are not cheating on their wives, which I don't see how that's not cheating on your wife, watching pornography is not considered a violation.

00:42:34.360 It's not considered a sin was how he summed it up.

00:42:37.300 And then Matt sort of countered and said, OK, so you would be OK with your wife going to a hotel and watching two people have sex. 0.96

00:42:45.920 As long as she doesn't get involved, like that's not a sin.

00:42:48.200 And it was a great rebuttal.

00:42:49.700 And I was very confused.

00:42:50.680 I'm like, this is such an easy thing.

00:42:52.020 Obviously, pornography. 0.99

00:42:53.520 And that was Dennis Prager's defense as well.

00:42:55.580 He went on Matt Brad's podcast, a Catholic podcast, was like, it's the thought is not the thing.

00:42:59.540 And I'm going, don't we all know that thoughts come before the thing?

00:43:03.020 Like, you have to think it before you do it.

00:43:06.140 That's exactly what I was going to say.

00:43:07.040 You have to think it before you do it.

00:43:08.920 And it's in your mind.

00:43:10.020 And if the progression is a mortal sin is grievous matter of full consent of the will.

00:43:16.120 Well, it's got to be in your mind before you can consent to it.

00:43:19.200 And so the church would call it a near occasion of sin, which means you're putting yourself in danger by doing this.

00:43:25.680 And so you should avoid the near occasions of sin.

00:43:27.900 Now, now we've got this incredibly complicated situation.

00:43:32.360 So am I in a near occasion of sin because I'm on Twitter?

00:43:36.140 I mean, what are we doing here?

00:43:38.000 It's frustrating.

00:43:38.640 I'm like, I'm looking up something and then suddenly I'm looking at pornography.

00:43:42.060 It just pops up and it's very, very frustrating because it's just, it's wrong.

00:43:46.080 I should not have to be exposed to pornography.

00:43:47.880 We should not be exposed to this.

00:43:48.980 Because I'm looking up a hashtag that has nothing to do with pornography.

00:43:52.660 Yeah, so we should, I hope Elon Musk is listening here because we should not be exposed to this.

00:43:58.940 And you're undermining your position on free speech if you're allowing pornography because pornography is the extinction of thought.

00:44:06.980 That's the whole point of it.

00:44:07.880 So you will hear people who are conservatives who actually say, well, what are you talking about?

00:44:11.980 It's protected by the 1A.

00:44:14.560 And that fascinates me because it really lets you know that they don't know history.

00:44:17.200 They don't know how that became a thing.

00:44:18.740 They don't know who Samuel Roth is and how, for whatever reason, they've been polluted to believe that pornography is speech.

00:44:26.860 It's so obviously not speech.

00:44:28.960 It's obscenity.

00:44:30.020 It was never considered speech.

00:44:31.580 It was obscenity.

00:44:32.560 Never considered speech.

00:44:33.880 And when did it become speech?

00:44:35.740 Over the course of the 1950s and 1960s, where you had these Supreme Court decisions, where the Supreme Court is trying to figure out what is it.

00:44:45.720 And you had people like Norman Mailer.

00:44:48.880 It was a Jewish, pornography is always a Jewish operation. 1.00

00:44:53.320 Yeah, the big one was wrong.

00:44:54.180 And you find someone who would say, well, it's, the crucial thing was, it's art.

00:44:58.920 This is the crucial thing that happened with Mapplethorpe in Cincinnati.

00:45:03.700 You remember Mapplethorpe, the photographer, Catholic boy who was completely corrupted by the homosexual culture. 1.00

00:45:10.580 He is the man who valorized homosexuality. 0.92

00:45:14.460 I mean, when I was a kid, there were, you know, people, if you're hitchhiking, some queer would pick you up. 1.00

00:45:19.720 And they were creepy people.

00:45:21.520 And everybody knew they were creepy people.

00:45:23.820 But he comes along and he's got this photography of what he was doing in these places like the mineshaft.

00:45:31.440 Do you know what I mean?

00:45:32.100 And everybody is shocked, but it gave them kind of some type of heroic stature.

00:45:37.560 So anyway, the government, the NCA sponsors, the National Endowment for Arts sponsors this Mapplethorpe exhibit.

00:45:46.240 And it's immediately called Obscene.

00:45:49.180 Then they go to Cincinnati.

00:45:51.500 Cincinnati is a Catholic town.

00:45:53.640 It's always been a Catholic town.

00:45:55.060 It's been one of the bulwarks against abortion, for example.

00:45:58.400 And they put the guy on trial and the Jews fund it. 0.98

00:46:03.000 And so it comes down to it's art. 0.63

00:46:05.640 Well, by this point, the Jews had totally destroyed art. 1.00

00:46:08.860 I'm getting ahead of myself.

00:46:10.680 It's in the dangers of beauty.

00:46:12.140 If you want to talk about Conviler and Picasso and the wreck of art, read that book.

00:46:16.520 But by this time, who knows what art is?

00:46:20.140 It's like Jackson Pollock.

00:46:22.640 Time magazine called him Jack the Dripper.

00:46:25.280 He drips on the thing.

00:46:26.460 Nelson Rockefeller buys it, puts it up on a wall of the Chase Manhattan Bank, and therefore it's art.

00:46:31.900 So now nobody knows what it is.

00:46:33.560 And you come to this obscenity trial in Cincinnati.

00:46:37.400 And the guy says, the guy's on the stand.

00:46:40.520 He said, well, they said it was art.

00:46:42.120 I don't know.

00:46:42.980 I guess it's art.

00:46:43.780 And they acquitted him.

00:46:44.860 This is how they got.

00:46:45.840 This is how they moved.

00:46:47.080 Step by step by step to the point where you're now on Twitter and you're doing some type of search and suddenly, whoa, I didn't ask for that.

00:46:55.680 Really, Elon, really, do us a favor.

00:46:58.260 You can do it.

00:46:59.780 You can do this.

00:47:00.660 This is not free speech.

00:47:02.960 It's the end of free speech.

00:47:04.520 It is funny that you bring up art because the more that I do research into, well, what went wrong in America, and it kind of brought me to learning a bit about Alistair Crowley and his movement.

00:47:17.160 And I want to be clear, everything that we're talking about, it was the elites that brought all of this.

00:47:20.620 I think people had this idea that it was like a poor people or a fringe group.

00:47:24.820 It was always the elites who were involved in bringing pornography, people who had incredible wealth and access.

00:47:30.600 And Alistair Crowley is a great example of that because he is a person who was labeled as the wickedest man in the world, but he was friends with all of the elites, all of the elites. 0.51

00:47:40.460 Mussolini famously kicked him out because he was having this sexual ritual party.

00:47:44.440 And that guy that I was telling you about who wrote the book, Hollywood Babylon, and spoke about the beginning of the origins of Hollywood and how it was kind of always demonic and how it was a lot of Crowley's protégés who were involved in that.

00:47:57.920 He speaks about that house that Mussolini eventually kicked Alistair Crowley and his people out.

00:48:04.920 And in an interview, he speaks about how art, modern art, was all a part of this house and who visited this house.

00:48:10.740 Alfred Kinsey, as an example, all the psychologists, all of these people that we know introduced these perverse ideas via psychology were a part of this nest, if you will.

00:48:22.820 So, like, in believing in sexual rituals and sexual freedom, Alistair Crowley, he was the precursor to the hippie movement.

00:48:30.020 Like, it was a bunch of elites getting together.

00:48:32.080 He's on the cover of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper album.

00:48:33.780 He's one of the figures on the cover there.

00:48:35.300 That album cover.

00:48:37.560 Okay.

00:48:39.360 Tons of conspiracies.

00:48:40.940 I'm Catholic now.

00:48:42.020 I don't believe conspiracies.

00:48:43.200 I believe in Providence.

00:48:44.200 And people should examine that because I am now fully convinced, after having read Chaos, that the Beatles were, like, a CIA psychological operation.

00:48:55.240 And I think towards the end, maybe they started speaking about that because, you know, when John Lennon—was it John Lennon who got shot?

00:49:02.980 Sorry, I know I sound really young.

00:49:04.820 It was John Lennon who got shot?

00:49:06.060 Yeah, 1981.

00:49:07.060 The CIA was there.

00:49:07.840 I don't know if you know about that.

00:49:08.820 Didn't know that.

00:49:09.300 Yes, the CIA was there when he got shot, and the story never actually made sense, the catcher in the rye whole bit.

00:49:14.920 But what's fascinating about that is on that cover, I think they're telling you a lot.

00:49:19.700 I think if you really look at the list—I talked about that on my podcast—of that album, and you realize what was happening in the 60s full stop.

00:49:27.760 I mean, they were dealing with trying to create mass psychoses.

00:49:30.480 I think that they were brought in in 1964 to distract everyone from the Kennedy assassination.

00:49:35.800 And I think that was the—especially our—my generation.

00:49:40.180 Yeah, well, they created fake celebrities.

00:49:41.960 There's no question about that, that there were government—like, some of these celebrities work for the government.

00:49:45.840 I think actors, too.

00:49:46.880 Like, there are some actors that, to me—like, Sean Penn.

00:49:50.320 I'm just like, why is there ever—every time—like, or Bono—is it Bono?

00:49:54.220 Every time there's anything going on, like, suddenly, like, Bono's performing over here, and Sean Penn's doing a movie on it, and obviously, Pentagon makes films.

00:50:02.080 So it's a psychological—Hollywood, in and of itself, is a government psychological operation.

00:50:06.740 We're trained to believe history happened this way.

00:50:08.800 If they make a cinematic masterpiece, you know, about Pearl Harbor, then you have no questions about the narrative.

00:50:13.580 If they make a cinematic masterpiece—

00:50:15.000 They created the narrative.

00:50:16.200 They created the Holocaust narrative. 0.93

00:50:17.660 But it's all mass psychosis.

00:50:19.120 Hollywood was created—

00:50:20.360 Billy Wilder was there filming the CIA—it wasn't CIA, it didn't exist anymore—but the psychological warfare operation that was under General McClure, under Eisenhower, had C.D. Jackson show up at Buchenwald and create this spectacle of the—people were brought in from Weimar, and he held up a—there was a lampshade, supposedly made out of Jewish skin.

00:50:46.340 There was a pelvis—it was supposed to be an ashtray—and two shrunken heads.

00:50:51.100 What's this got to do with Germany at all?

00:50:53.140 Germans do not shrink heads, I guarantee you.

00:50:55.460 They were taken from a museum from Amazon tribes that do shrink heads. 1.00

00:51:00.460 The man who filmed this was Billy Wilder.

00:51:03.420 Billy Wilder went on to be famous as the director of Marilyn Monroe in Some Like It Hot and One, Two, Three, and a lot of things.

00:51:11.600 That's where it got started.

00:51:12.820 That's where the narrative got started.

00:51:13.940 Hollywood was a crucial part in the creation of this narrative.

00:51:18.880 It still is a crucial part in the creation of every narrative.

00:51:21.740 I think you're right.

00:51:22.380 But that's why I show people, do you think it's normal that Hollywood, at the Pentagon, they have an office dedicated to film, Hollywood films, and they go in and sit with the directors and tell them how to make things as they're telling you stories?

00:51:33.760 Like, the CIA was involved in the film Zero Dark Thirty.

00:51:38.520 So do you really trust the CIA to tell you exactly what happened when they captured Osama bin Laden?

00:51:43.420 I don't know.

00:51:43.860 Maybe you do.

00:51:44.340 And I went through this list of showing them all of the films that the CIA funded and helped produce and told them how to shoot it.

00:51:50.520 And they have their guys go down there on Hollywood sets.

00:51:53.540 Shouldn't that indicate to you just naturally, like, hey, maybe we're not getting the full picture.

00:51:57.500 And they're making a beautiful movie so that we have this emotional reaction and attachment to believing that this is how it happened.

00:52:04.080 And it's not history.

00:52:05.800 It's a narrowly tailored version of history that is supposed to make you connect with the narrative.

00:52:12.400 Like, whether—and it's always, like, these big stories they pick, the Titanic even.

00:52:16.400 Oh, this beautiful love story.

00:52:18.140 And Rose is on the boat.

00:52:19.380 And she's dying.

00:52:20.380 And then you don't really ask any questions.

00:52:23.320 Like, this just must be exactly how it went down.

00:52:25.720 And so it is interesting to revisit Hollywood through the lens of understanding that it is and forever has been a way to implement a mass psychosis because now they have the technology.

00:52:37.900 They don't have to just put you in a theater and try to convince you from far away like they did in France.

00:52:43.580 Now they have the technology and also the means to then make that a blockbuster film and to give it awards, the Academy Awards and Oscars,

00:52:51.500 so that you're drawn to go want to see the film that's winning all of these awards and is nominated for all of these statues.

00:52:59.000 I think that's part of the reason the Catholics lost their nerve, because Hollywood had become the propaganda ministry literally during World War II. 0.96

00:53:08.180 These are propaganda—

00:53:08.940 Edward Bernays.

00:53:09.600 Death.

00:53:10.320 That was earlier, too.

00:53:12.100 But, I mean, I'm saying—and so you're now sort of—we still have communism.

00:53:17.620 It's still 1960s.

00:53:19.500 You still have communism.

00:53:20.460 We have the anti-communist crusade and so on and so forth.

00:53:23.160 And so is it un-American, then, to oppose Hollywood?

00:53:27.960 We're dealing also with the fact that Hollywood creates role models for the rest of us, and they create the ideal black, and they create the ideal Catholic, and they create the ideal so on and so forth. 0.76

00:53:38.660 And we, as a result, suffer from identity theft, so we don't know who we are anymore.

00:53:44.220 Our behavior is being socially engineered from Hollywood.

00:53:47.220 And, again, that book, Hollywood Babylon, made me realize that when it started speaking about how they perfectly engineered—they intentionally engineered women to stop wearing skirts and start wearing pants.

00:53:56.940 And they brought in this dyke from Germany, and they made her a star—I mean, totally fake, just turned her into a star, red carpets, and everyone was reading about her and seeing her, and they thought she was so cool. 1.00

00:54:06.680 And you see this now when you capture these various psychoses, like you speak to young girls or see them regarding Taylor Swift or Beyonce.

00:54:16.160 What is this?

00:54:17.080 Well, what's happened is you believe you're an atheist, but you're not an atheist.

00:54:21.100 You have many gods.

00:54:23.000 You're a pagan. 0.97

00:54:23.900 And there are these Hollywood stars that you worship like they're idols, and you will sacrifice anything.

00:54:29.580 Like, there was an article which described how adult women were going to the Taylor Swift concert wearing diapers because they didn't want to miss a single second of her three-hour concert, so they decided to just go in their diapers if they needed to.

00:54:42.320 What is that?

00:54:44.860 Infantilization.

00:54:45.340 And it's completely demonic, and this is not me trying to attack Taylor Swift, but just people not realizing you've been possessed, right?

00:54:55.560 You are now worshiping this person, and Hollywood creates the idols so they can introduce anything.

00:55:00.680 Now you can see they're pushing hardcore for the trans stuff, and now everybody to be a star is, like, non-binary and, you know, gender-bending, and it's something that people need to wake up to,

00:55:13.460 that Hollywood in and of itself is demonic, and it always has been.

00:55:17.720 There wasn't, like, a decade where it was moral and that the people that were the actors were good people.

00:55:22.980 But it was possible to keep them under control for 32 years, and we have to keep that in mind, too.

00:55:27.860 Hegel said, the oil of Minerva usually flies at twilight.

00:55:36.500 He's talking about twilight of the empire, twilight of the age.

00:55:40.680 I think that's what we're living in right now.

00:55:42.920 The owl of wisdom, because at the twilight, things start to break down.

00:55:46.780 All of the narratives that we were raised with are starting to collapse, and there's this vacuum now.

00:55:52.820 You know, and I think that's the service that we can provide.

00:55:57.840 We can say, no, no, there is a real order to the universe.

00:56:02.320 It's not something that's created by Hollywood.

00:56:04.760 No, God created that order for the universe, and all we have to do is go back to the order he created and start from there.

00:56:13.260 Why do you think it's starting to crack, though?

00:56:14.880 Because it is interesting to see this.

00:56:16.180 Like, suddenly people are starting to ask questions.

00:56:19.180 People are going, wait, what's really happening?

00:56:22.580 The mainstream media, nobody trusts them anymore except for a very small group.

00:56:27.780 That's why they're demanding the Internet be censored, because they're realizing people are beginning to question their authority.

00:56:34.660 But what do you think is contributing to that?

00:56:37.780 Emmanuel Tote is a French writer.

00:56:39.580 He wrote a book called La Défaite de l'Occident.

00:56:42.300 La Défaite de l'Occident.

00:56:43.900 Well, the defeat of the West, and he said, basically, the American empire is collapsing because Protestantism has evaporated.

00:56:54.200 That's what he said.

00:56:56.200 Protestantism is the hidden grammar of America.

00:57:00.200 If Samuel Huntington wrote a book called Who Are We?, and he said, we, if you're men, Americans, we are Anglo-Protestants.

00:57:07.340 He's talking about the Puritans.

00:57:10.140 Obviously, there were French in Canada, there were Spaniards in Mexico, but this Puritan group conquered every other group in America, including the southerner states in the Civil War, and they were Puritans.

00:57:23.560 And so that's great.

00:57:25.000 I think he's right.

00:57:25.960 I think that Protestantism is evaporating.

00:57:28.040 It had a 500-year run, okay, but now it's running out of steam.

00:57:31.820 And so, but the problem is he doesn't understand Protestantism.

00:57:37.720 So, yeah, Protestantism was the hidden grammar of America, but what's the hidden grammar of Protestantism?

00:57:43.520 It's Satanism.

00:57:45.360 Now, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

00:57:47.100 You can't say that.

00:57:48.200 Well, why am I saying that?

00:57:49.400 I'm talking about the Puritans.

00:57:51.620 Who was the great Puritan poet?

00:57:55.040 It was John Milton.

00:57:57.100 What is this great epic called?

00:57:59.000 It's called Paradise Lost.

00:58:00.360 Who's the hero of Paradise Lost?

00:58:03.720 It's Satan.

00:58:05.180 Every romantic poet knew this.

00:58:07.580 The people, all, he glamorized Satan.

00:58:10.840 It's one of the greatest pieces of literature in the English language when Satan wakes up in hell, and he's been defeated by the God and the good angels, and he looks around him, and he says, we're going to regroup.

00:58:26.580 I got a plan, and he ends this speech by saying, awake, arise, or be forever fallen.

00:58:33.860 He's addressing those demons there.

00:58:35.480 And what does he say?

00:58:36.780 He said, the mind is its own place.

00:58:39.100 We don't need him to tell us what to do.

00:58:43.020 It's better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven.

00:58:46.420 Well, there's a strain of America that feels that way.

00:58:49.200 There's a strain of America, and we have to face up to that fact, and we have to face up to the fact that this has had its day.

00:58:57.740 Those people have had their day, and it's collapsing, and there's a vacuum.

00:59:02.440 And whenever there's a vacuum, people go crazy because they don't know how to act.

00:59:06.820 So I have a huge following of Protestants.

00:59:10.120 How can you not if you're in America?

00:59:11.960 And when they hear that, when they hear you say Protestantism is a form of Satanism or is Satanism, I want you to explain why it is that you're saying that, because that's hugely controversial.

00:59:24.500 What was the Reformation?

00:59:25.640 Well, there was a big crisis in Freud studies because Freud basically covered his tracks.

00:59:48.240 He didn't want anyone to know where he got the ideas.

00:59:50.420 So if you talk, he got ideas from Nietzsche, the whole idea of the Oedipus complex, the whole idea of incest as the way to become a god comes from Nietzsche.

01:00:01.640 It's in The Birth of Tragedy, that powerful passage at the end of The Birth of Tragedy.

01:00:06.920 But I think that the crucial start for Freud was the Illuminati manuscripts.

01:00:15.520 Now, there was an Illuminati.

01:00:17.060 It did exist as a secret society in Bavaria during the late 18th century.

01:00:24.960 And the documents were found and they were published by the king of Bavaria as a way of preventing this from happening.

01:00:33.760 It was a man by the name of Adam Weishaupt.

01:00:35.700 And Adam Weishaupt was a teacher at the University of Eichstätt.

01:00:39.240 And it was a Jesuit university and he was aware of the Jesuit examination of conscience.

01:00:47.160 So before you go to confession, you examine your conscience and then you come up with the sins and then you confess the sins and then the priest says, go and sin no more.

01:00:56.780 Well, this got weaponized.

01:00:57.940 The same thing I said about Freud and Augustine.

01:01:00.680 It got turned upside down so that now he comes up with this idea called Zelen aneluse, which is the German word for examination of the soul.

01:01:10.060 And he turns it into psychoanalysis.

01:01:13.600 But Freud turned it into psychoanalysis.

01:01:16.080 But basically what he's saying is, you can take these, get the person to confess his sins to you, and then you can control them through his sins.

01:01:27.160 So you can say, well, you know, you can do it again as long as you keep me in the loop and we'll take care of that.

01:01:33.520 And that's how the Illuminati got control of these people.

01:01:37.220 This is exactly what Freud did.

01:01:38.700 Exactly what Freud did, and he did exactly what his goy, his Gentile heir apparent Jung, C.G. Jung, was supposed to do. 0.99

01:01:50.280 Well, that's interesting.

01:01:51.200 So I actually haven't learned too much about Carl Jung.

01:01:56.060 And I think he's still respected by a lot of people.

01:01:59.040 So just illuminate me, like, let me know more about him.

01:02:02.320 Because they then had a fractured relationship toward the end.

01:02:05.120 Yeah, and they go into this, and there's supposed to be this scene where suddenly there's crackling in the bookshelf or something like that.

01:02:12.980 And it basically came down to Freud was an atheist, but Jung believed in some type of God.

01:02:18.840 I don't know what it is, but some type of spiritual force.

01:02:21.180 His mother was a medium.

01:02:23.500 She was involved in the whole occult tradition, so he brought that into it.

01:02:27.560 But basically what we're talking about here is how do you control people?

01:02:31.260 And we're going to talk about specific instances here.

01:02:35.440 Rich Americans, they got a lot of money.

01:02:38.800 We're talking about the 1920s. 1.00

01:02:40.520 The currency here is crap. 0.99

01:02:42.560 They got a lot of real money. 0.99

01:02:44.360 And so Freud and Jung became involved in competition for who's going to get the rich Americans.

01:02:50.500 And I think Freud, I'm sorry, Jung won the battle because he got involved with Maedal McCormick,

01:02:57.020 the heir to the International Harvester Foundation, and his sister, Edith Rockefeller,

01:03:02.560 sister-in-law, Edith Rockefeller McCormick.

01:03:05.400 And they were both troubled.

01:03:07.080 Now, people are going to be troubled.

01:03:09.200 If you cut yourself off from sacramental confession, you cannot get your sins forgiven.

01:03:14.640 This is the whole story of America, which we could talk about another time.

01:03:17.580 You go crazy when you don't get your sins forgiven.

01:03:20.040 And so you need some type of release because the guilt becomes intolerable.

01:03:23.700 And so you go to confession.

01:03:25.440 Well, now you can do the exact opposite.

01:03:27.960 So Maedal McCormick comes to Jung and he says, well, I've been sleeping with all these actresses. 0.93

01:03:33.380 And Jung says, okay, you can keep doing it as long as you come and pay me these big fees.

01:03:40.820 And then Edith Rockefeller McCormick gives him a lot of money.

01:03:43.580 He builds his foundation.

01:03:44.520 And Freud is furious because he's taking over his operation.

01:03:49.680 Freud is involved in the same thing.

01:03:51.720 Freud wrote to, Fleece invited him to Berlin.

01:03:55.040 And Freud said, I'd love to come, but I'm afraid my patients will get well in my absence.

01:04:00.480 He had one day, it's like, he had a picture of a lion in the subtitle is, it's already noon

01:04:07.460 and no Negroes. 0.95

01:04:09.260 In other words, I haven't eaten anyone yet. 0.94

01:04:11.460 So he's preying on his own people.

01:04:13.820 This came out long after the fact, long after the whole Freud thing.

01:04:18.780 The Johns Hopkins University published the correspondence between an American psychoanalyst named Horace

01:04:26.820 Frink and Freud.

01:04:28.540 Frink was a doctor.

01:04:30.580 Frink wanted to become a psychoanalyst.

01:04:32.900 In order to become a psychoanalyst, you have to go to Vienna, you have to lie down on the

01:04:36.500 couch and you have to tell Freud your history.

01:04:39.140 Well, we're back to the Illuminati here.

01:04:40.640 It's like the examination of conscience.

01:04:42.340 And Frink tells him, well, I'm having an affair with one of my rich patients.

01:04:49.460 So instead of Freud saying, this is unethical, you know, you can't sleep with your patients.

01:04:53.760 He says, divorce your wife, marry this rich woman, and then give me a significant contribution.

01:05:01.680 That's the whole Freudian thing in a nutshell.

01:05:05.440 Okay.

01:05:05.780 All of this mumbo jumbo is to control people for your benefit, which is exactly what I said

01:05:10.540 about libido dominandi. 0.62

01:05:11.760 So it's almost a perfect inversion of the church because it's a church of Satan. 0.54

01:05:17.980 And so you're basically where you have priests, instead you have these satanic priests, and 0.69

01:05:22.520 they keep telling you to keep giving into your lust, keep giving into your lust.

01:05:25.560 And this is why, by the way, I am totally, I think, psychotherapy, psychoanalysis, and

01:05:31.380 you can trace everything back that's happening in society to essentially that's what happens

01:05:35.280 today.

01:05:35.620 How do we get to this transgender problem? 1.00

01:05:37.940 We have a bunch of kids going to therapy, and they're not making them better.

01:05:41.540 They're telling them that every feeling you have is valid.

01:05:44.260 Every libido instinct that you have is valid.

01:05:47.220 If you think this, then it's right.

01:05:48.580 Go be you.

01:05:49.460 Go be your best self.

01:05:50.500 Again, that city of man that's being created.

01:05:52.860 Like, worship yourself in every instinct that you have.

01:05:55.500 Do not temper your desires.

01:05:57.380 Lean into them.

01:05:58.000 And people don't understand what we read earlier, which is that eventually you become weaker and

01:06:05.200 weaker, and you become a slave to your desires because you have absolutely no control, and

01:06:10.200 you have essentially dominated the logos, and you're just sort of living in this sphere

01:06:15.480 that is fully driven by desire.

01:06:19.120 Right.

01:06:19.440 I think that that's the whole point.

01:06:22.360 Anyone who tells you to give in to your passions is talking to you, turning you into a slave.

01:06:27.660 And so what you have over this period of time is the development of technologies of control

01:06:32.760 that will culminate in social engineering.

01:06:36.400 It will culminate in the mainstreaming of pornography.

01:06:39.940 Just, I'm reluctant to quote this.

01:06:42.600 I saw it on the internet just briefly, but there's two groups, two brothers, the Krasenstein

01:06:47.760 brothers, and one of them just spilled the beans.

01:06:50.300 He said, we need to have the goyim watching pornography because otherwise they will put us in concentration 1.00

01:06:55.840 camps.

01:06:56.360 That may not be an exact one.

01:06:57.940 They will attack us.

01:06:58.960 They will beat us up.

01:06:59.820 Something like that.

01:07:00.860 And so we have to enslave them to distract them by getting them watching pornography enslaved

01:07:07.060 to their passion.

01:07:07.920 That's exactly what the Israelis attempted to do in Gaza. 0.56

01:07:11.700 I'm sorry, in Ramallah.

01:07:13.700 That's exactly what they tried to do.

01:07:15.480 So the technology is out.

01:07:17.340 It's as if these people were spilling the beans about private conversations.

01:07:21.420 There are people who know these things.

01:07:23.280 There are people who have been putting these things into practice, but they're not going

01:07:26.380 to tell you because if they tell you, well, I'm doing this to control you, it doesn't

01:07:31.220 work.

01:07:31.760 It only works if you don't know.

01:07:34.160 So I just randomly, I pull up at the supermarket, I'm locking my bicycle, and some guy says to

01:07:40.120 me, you're E.

01:07:42.460 Michael Jones, aren't you?

01:07:43.520 I said, yeah.

01:07:44.220 He said, I stopped watching porn because of you.

01:07:47.180 Now, I never talked to this guy, but sometimes all you have to say is sexual liberation is

01:07:52.720 a form of control.

01:07:53.720 And suddenly the people, I didn't have to explain this to the generation in 2019, to

01:07:58.700 the generation that had grown up with their cell phones as access to pornography.

01:08:03.700 They understood that they were slaves.

01:08:05.620 They came up with this thing called NoFap November of people.

01:08:10.220 We're not going to watch pornography. 0.99

01:08:11.440 We're not going to masturbate. 0.99

01:08:13.120 And lo and behold, Rolling Stone attacks these people and calls them anti-Semites. 0.98

01:08:20.340 Well, wait a minute.

01:08:21.060 You just let the cat out of the bag here. 0.91

01:08:22.960 Are you saying the Jews control pornography? 0.98

01:08:24.580 Well, yeah, of course you are. 0.97

01:08:25.780 And of course they do.

01:08:26.840 They have from the beginning.

01:08:28.500 There's a guy, professor of the University of Pennsylvania, wrote a book called Bookleggers

01:08:34.200 and Smut Hounds, scholarly book. 0.93

01:08:36.040 He said, Jews have controlled pornography from the beginning. 0.93

01:08:38.520 That is the one way they weaken the dominant culture, and that allows them to take control.

01:08:45.680 Well, I don't think that they deny that, by the way.

01:08:47.540 There's tons of footage on the internet of pornography directors discussing that and saying,

01:08:51.920 we control the pornography industry.

01:08:53.520 Now, not many of them give a reason as to why that is, but I definitely don't think that

01:08:58.420 that's something that can be disputed.

01:09:00.460 And yet I-

01:09:00.880 There's a rabbi owns Pornhub. 0.81

01:09:02.920 Or started Pornhub.

01:09:03.900 Now they say, oh, well, fact check that because then he sold it to a private equity firm and

01:09:08.160 that's kind of, now it doesn't own it.

01:09:10.120 But yeah, it begs the question, what are the requirements to be a rabbi?

01:09:14.140 Because everyone that I've come across has been a bit wacky, to be honest with you.

01:09:17.000 Right, I know.

01:09:17.620 You've had your own experience with rabbis recently.

01:09:20.100 Yes.

01:09:20.740 So what does this say about a rabbi?

01:09:23.760 What does this say about his religion if he's promoting something that everyone recognizes

01:09:28.960 as evil and debilitating?

01:09:31.020 What does that say?

01:09:32.560 We're just drawing the implications now, I think, because there are implications from

01:09:37.460 these statements.

01:09:38.120 It's like the Jews announcing that abortion is a fundamental Jewish value. 0.94

01:09:42.860 That was the quintessential requirement for sexual liberation, to be able to have an abortion 0.98

01:09:49.400 so you didn't have to face up to the consequences of that sexual intercourse that you had. 0.87

01:09:53.740 And now suddenly it's being portrayed as a fundamental value by Jews. 0.51

01:09:56.920 We have to understand this and draw the implications.

01:10:00.900 Well, what's interesting, though, is when you think about a rabbi starting a Pornhub 1.00

01:10:06.280 and then maybe selling it, it does bring into question what is your faith?

01:10:13.480 Like, what do you actually believe that you can become a rabbi?

01:10:16.640 Because it's unimaginable that there would be a Catholic priest that would be allowed to

01:10:21.160 start Pornhub and maintain the title of a Catholic priest.

01:10:26.680 And this gets into kind of realizing that there are, which people I don't think recognize,

01:10:32.120 a lot of different sects when it comes to Judaism.

01:10:35.080 But your theory is that all of it is sort of, I don't want to put words in your mouth here

01:10:43.240 because there was a specific word that you used, but not contrary to Christianity,

01:10:48.440 but it agitates Christianity no matter what.

01:10:51.760 Like these two philosophies are incompatible no matter what.

01:10:56.640 Well, it's another book I wrote, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, which followed after this book.

01:11:03.300 You know, it's about 10 years after I wrote that book.

01:11:06.200 But I had, if I thought, I'm thinking, if I'm going to talk about this, I have to get back to the,

01:11:11.220 what's the basic issue?

01:11:12.640 And the basic issue is not racial.

01:11:15.840 It's theological.

01:11:16.640 And the theological issue came to a head when Jesus Christ arrived on this earth.

01:11:22.240 And he's the Messiah.

01:11:24.260 And the Jews have to make a decision. 0.93

01:11:27.380 Do we accept this man on his terms as the Messiah?

01:11:30.780 Or do we want something, someone better?

01:11:32.800 And if you go to the Gospel of St. John, there's a big dispute between Jesus Christ and the Jews.

01:11:37.340 And they play the race card.

01:11:39.280 They say, we are the seed of Abraham.

01:11:41.520 You can't push us around.

01:11:44.020 And Jesus Christ said, God doesn't need your DNA.

01:11:46.700 Didn't quite say it that way.

01:11:47.680 But I mean, he could raise up rocks.

01:11:49.420 And so the crucial issue is, who is Jesus Christ?

01:11:52.820 He's the Logos incarnate.

01:11:54.960 And what is your position with the Logos incarnate?

01:11:58.480 Do you accept him or do you reject him?

01:12:01.000 And I'm saying that the Jews who accepted him became the Catholic Church, the Christians. 0.73

01:12:05.420 And the Jews who rejected him have been in rebellion against Logos ever since.

01:12:11.520 And so there is this, Logos means the order of the universe that God created.

01:12:16.400 And if you're in rebellion against that, you're a revolutionary.

01:12:19.900 Well, they're revolutionaries.

01:12:21.140 They are.

01:12:21.560 And that's why I called the book The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit.

01:12:24.680 And you have something like the Bolshevik Revolution.

01:12:27.180 You know, that was a Jewish, that was a Jewish operation.

01:12:30.020 It wasn't saying every Bolshevik was a Jew or every Jew was a Bolshevik, but it was a Jewish operation. 0.88

01:12:35.800 And the thing that got me started on that book was the neoconservative press to get us involved in the war in Iraq.

01:12:43.740 How did this happen?

01:12:45.380 How did such a small group of people get control of the entire foreign policy to the point where we invaded a country that wasn't doing anything against it?

01:12:54.380 Well, yeah, the neocon movement is just not conservative whatsoever.

01:12:59.000 I think people are starting to come to terms with that.

01:13:01.260 And it is interesting because I could not verify this fact.

01:13:05.220 I can't find a picture.

01:13:06.700 But I thought it was really interesting.

01:13:07.760 The neocons love William F. Buckley.

01:13:10.060 Like, that's like, this is what it means to be a neocon.

01:13:13.080 We think William F. Buckley has the greatest ideas.

01:13:15.740 And I love that Tucker Carlson said I think he's actually one of the great villains of the 20th century.

01:13:20.100 But I then, when I was researching that guy, Al Goldstein, this pornographer, I realized that he started Screw Magazine with somebody named James Buckley.

01:13:29.860 Yeah.

01:13:30.200 And I don't know who James Buckley is.

01:13:31.320 I can't find a picture.

01:13:32.140 I can't find a photo.

01:13:32.760 I don't think they're related.

01:13:33.880 I don't think they're related.

01:13:34.900 There is in the same family.

01:13:36.240 There's, of course, they could not be related.

01:13:37.660 I don't know.

01:13:37.900 But I can't find anything on this person.

01:13:39.580 And I'm just, like, wondering what is, what's going on there?

01:13:42.460 Who's James Buckley who started, who was involved in the pornography industry?

01:13:45.400 I don't think he had anything to do with William F. Buckley, but William F. Buckley was a man who created conservatism.

01:13:53.200 He created conservatism.

01:13:54.680 And this is in 1953.

01:13:56.420 I know the guy, he wrote a book called God and Man at Yale.

01:14:01.220 Henry Regnery was the publisher.

01:14:03.020 I was a friend of Henry Regnery before he died.

01:14:06.220 He also published Russell Kirk's book, The Conservative Mind, in the same year.

01:14:10.760 Some people claimed that Buckley did it with CIA money.

01:14:14.040 I asked Joe Sober in that when he was alive.

01:14:16.700 It's debatable.

01:14:17.580 Buckley was in the CIA.

01:14:19.140 But anyway, what were they created?

01:14:20.480 It was a new form of conservatism to distance everyone from America first, which I think was the real form of conservatism.

01:14:27.480 Of course it was.

01:14:27.940 Henry Regnery's father was the treasurer for America first.

01:14:32.540 And on December 8th, 1941, the CIA showed, the FBI showed up and took his mailing list and that killed America first.

01:14:41.260 Okay, so something new came in and this thing, new thing, America first was isolationist.

01:14:47.980 Now we got this, we're backing the anti-communist crusade.

01:14:52.020 And then Buckley went on to become the spokesman for conservatism.

01:14:56.560 But the tragedy is that they yanked his chain.

01:15:02.780 When Joe Sober in started writing articles critical of Israel, they yanked Buckley's chain.

01:15:08.520 And he wrote an article denouncing Pat Buchanan, who was the big representative of America first at this point, and Joe Sober.

01:15:17.760 And Joe Sober in idolized Bill Buckley, and he stabbed him in the back because the Jews yanked his chain. 0.53

01:15:26.560 It's that simple.

01:15:27.480 And so he just went along, and now it just became irrelevant.

01:15:32.360 It became irrelevant.

01:15:33.800 The ultimate irrelevancy was when this group of people at National Review announced that Donald Trump is not a real conservative, and that he wins, becomes president.

01:15:43.220 So now what do you do?

01:15:44.580 Now what do you do?

01:15:45.380 These guys are completely irrelevant.

01:15:46.660 Robbie George, who was one of the people who, I think he's the guy who masterminded that manifesto, just announced that no Catholic can be an anti-Semite.

01:15:59.420 Catholics should not be anti-Semites.

01:16:01.240 Didn't define the term.

01:16:02.920 Okay, what do you mean by this?

01:16:04.840 I mean, you were attacked.

01:16:06.680 I had to jump in at this point because the Catholic, I mean, you're basically partly the water of baptism is still moist on your forehead.

01:16:15.680 And these people want to excommunicate you because they come up with this idea that you're an anti-Semite.

01:16:21.080 What does that mean?

01:16:22.560 We have to define this term.

01:16:24.280 We can't let ourselves be bullied anymore by this term.

01:16:27.160 It's just, we're past that.

01:16:28.580 Yeah, I think all across the board, people are tired of it.

01:16:31.080 I said it was sort of like when BLM everybody was a racist, and now we're kind of getting into, and then people got tired of calling everybody a racist, and nobody cared anymore.

01:16:38.500 And I think we're finally arriving at that point with anti-Semitism.

01:16:41.180 It's like you're just saying everyone's an anti-Semite, which means that nobody's actually an anti-Semite, and you're just trying to assert control because you can't actually argue the ideas.

01:16:48.220 Yes, that's right.

01:16:49.480 There was a crucial moment in the Catholic Church where the Catholic Church stood up to the Jews in Hollywood, and it was 1933, and it was the Legion of Decency. 0.85

01:17:00.740 So the entire country in the 1920s is very upset about the movies that are coming out of Hollywood because it's nudity.

01:17:08.460 We don't know this anymore.

01:17:09.700 I mentioned a book to you where you can find out the pre-code films, and they were pushing homosexuality. 1.00

01:17:15.620 They were pushing ridicule of clergy.

01:17:17.260 They're pushing nudity. 0.97

01:17:18.180 They're pushing obscenity, and the Protestants, who were the dominant group, they got Will Hayes. 0.99

01:17:23.100 They tried to stop, but they failed, and then the Catholics stood up to the Jews. 0.53

01:17:28.120 They basically called for a boycott of Cardinal Dougherty of Philadelphia, called for a boycott of Warner Brothers theaters in Philadelphia, and Joe Breen, who was the man in Hollywood negotiating this, said Harry Warner is crying tears as big as horse turds because he's losing $100,000 a week in Philadelphia.

01:17:52.320 Now, that threatened to go to New York, to Chicago, to Cleveland, to every big city in the Northeast that had a big Catholic population, and that was going to be the end of Hollywood. 0.56

01:18:03.160 And so Hollywood backed down.

01:18:04.420 They instituted the production code.

01:18:06.460 Now, that was successful for 32 years.

01:18:09.440 For 32 years, you didn't have it.

01:18:11.620 Maybe the golden age of Hollywood.

01:18:13.560 Hollywood's not doing well now with woke superhero movies.

01:18:18.200 They're not doing well.

01:18:19.100 They don't know how to deal with this.

01:18:21.220 So it kept Hollywood in line, but they didn't like this.

01:18:27.340 They were always, and finally, they saw their moment.

01:18:29.680 The moment was the Second Vatican Council.

01:18:32.080 There seems to be this type of new movement approach to the Jews.

01:18:35.360 It's in Nostra Tate.

01:18:37.240 And they released a Holocaust film called The Porn Broker. 0.98

01:18:41.340 And in The Porn Broker, it's basically, there's a black prostitute walks into the pawn shop, and she opens her shirt, bare breast on the screen, breaks the code. 0.95

01:18:53.420 And so Monsignor, I saw the correspondence between Monsignor Little, who's head of Legion of Decency, and Eli Landau, who is the producer. 0.98

01:19:02.140 And he said, shoot it from behind, have the black prostitute with her back toward the camera, and then put Rod Steiger's face in the frame. 0.94

01:19:10.260 And that way, you'll get some acting. 0.99

01:19:12.080 It's a much more, no, they didn't want to do that.

01:19:14.040 They didn't want drama.

01:19:14.720 They wanted bare breast on the screen, because that's how they're going to make more money. 1.00

01:19:18.860 And they also were using the Holocaust as the hammer that was going to intimidate the Catholics, and the Catholics ran up the white flag. 0.80

01:19:28.100 They had a failure of nerve, and within, so Landau says to Monsignor Little, this will be a great era of cinematic art.

01:19:35.720 Within seven years, we had Deep Throat, First Run Theaters, Devil and Miss Jones. 0.60

01:19:42.800 We had hardcore pornography on the big stream, because that's what they wanted. 0.71

01:19:46.800 And it's only gotten worse since that time.

01:19:50.040 As soon as you get the computer, pornography is always driven by technology.

01:19:54.960 As soon as you get the computer, you have VHS.

01:19:57.480 Pornography drove VHS sales.

01:19:59.540 Then you have the Internet, and then you have the Communications Decency Act.

01:20:02.760 Hollywood comes up with two propaganda films, People vs. Larry Frient and Boogie Nights.

01:20:09.500 And they exempt, they allow pornography on the Internet.

01:20:14.680 That fateful decision, and now you've got all these young people who grew up with easy access to pornography.

01:20:21.160 It's a crisis now, because they cannot relate to members of the opposite sex, because sin isolates you. 0.95

01:20:27.720 This type of sin isolates you.

01:20:30.020 They cannot form families.

01:20:31.980 There's a huge crisis right now.

01:20:33.680 And they're only now waking up.

01:20:35.400 It was only 2019 when people started saying, well, maybe it is slavery. 0.89

01:20:40.800 Maybe Jones was right when he wrote that book.

01:20:43.000 There is something happening right now, and it's been amazing to see.

01:20:46.220 I've been speaking about pornography, and men have been reacting.

01:20:49.440 And they say in the comments section, thank you so much for talking about this.

01:20:52.800 I struggle with this all the time.

01:20:54.180 And to hear someone speak about this struggle, it gives me faith to know that you're not alone.

01:20:59.520 And I tell them, don't be ashamed because you were targeted, right?

01:21:03.420 You grew up with a phone.

01:21:05.120 They also took over, obviously, the classrooms.

01:21:07.600 It's like Soviet propaganda.

01:21:08.900 And I distinctly remember learning in my health class that watching pornography was healthy, that you should watch pornography, that it is actually healthy to watch pornography because it lets you learn about sex.

01:21:19.260 It's sort of this book that Thomas Sowell writes to explain how they intentionally, and they did use Soviet tactics, tried to put a wedge between children and their parents.

01:21:28.680 Like, your parents are old-fashioned.

01:21:30.200 They don't think this is okay.

01:21:31.880 And within one decade, you had kids that the majority of them were graduating high school with virginity intact, complete reversal within 10 years because they then put all these incentives for health and sexual learning or just teaching you these things because your parents won't do that for you.

01:21:46.600 And so it's incredible to reflect on that and realize that I had this perspective growing up that people, like, of course, if you date a guy, it's totally fine if he watches pornography.

01:21:56.140 That's actually going to keep your relationship healthy.

01:21:57.960 This wasn't my idea.

01:21:58.940 This is what I was taught.

01:21:59.780 You're passing the class, and you're getting that feedback.

01:22:02.780 Like, you know things correctly.

01:22:04.500 You're going to grow up and you're going to have a healthy relationship if you allow your boyfriends to watch pornography, and this is what it looks like.

01:22:10.040 And now I look back on that, and I'm now team homeschool your kids because this is your children's spirits are intentionally being captured in a classroom, and they're introducing these satanic forces.

01:22:23.940 And it is very hard, especially for boys, because they're biologically wired differently from women. 0.99

01:22:31.360 Right.

01:22:31.940 You get them addicted to pornography when they're young, telling them it's good.

01:22:35.120 The odds are stacked against them when they get older, and if it becomes an addiction for them, and for many of them it has become an addiction because, like I said, pornography is everywhere.

01:22:44.260 My husband doesn't even have social media because he says, I don't think you realize, even if you're reading the Daily Mail, you're seeing soft-core pornography.

01:22:52.480 And the way that women dress, what they're putting on the cover, what they're putting everywhere is we've just okayed soft-core pornography in society. 1.00

01:23:01.200 It's worse than that because of X and Twitter. 0.96

01:23:04.460 It's full of pornography. 0.58

01:23:06.560 Elon Musk, God bless Elon Musk.

01:23:08.860 He restored me.

01:23:09.820 I got banned from Twitter.

01:23:11.020 He restored me.

01:23:11.900 You're allowed to say things now on there, but really you're not doing yourself any favors or us any favors by allowing all this pornography.

01:23:20.100 Why do you think he allows that?

01:23:21.600 That's very interesting to me.

01:23:22.640 I think he's made a deal with the Jews. 0.99

01:23:25.800 I think he went to Auschwitz.

01:23:27.020 You go there to offer up incense to idols, and I think he's instituted what the ADL says, which is basically freedom of speech but not freedom of reach.

01:23:37.020 And I think that part of the deal, it's not explicit, but I think part of the deal is to allow pornography because pornography, as we've established here, is a form of control, and the Jews insist on it. 0.97

01:23:49.580 They insist on having that allowed because they're afraid that if people stop watching pornography, they're all going to be put in concentration camps.

01:23:58.340 This is the type of rhetoric.

01:23:59.880 This was in that thing I quoted to you.

01:24:01.940 I'm going to find that article.

01:24:02.860 It said Rolling Stone.

01:24:04.080 Rolling Stone.

01:24:04.780 Yeah, it's easy to find.

01:24:05.860 Okay.

01:24:06.300 You also had a crucial turning point in the so-called women's movement.

01:24:10.980 So you had Catherine McKinnon and Andrea Dworkin saying pornography victimizes women. 0.86

01:24:16.820 Well, duh.

01:24:17.780 Oh, Wendy, that's great.

01:24:18.900 You figured that out.

01:24:19.840 So what happened at that point?

01:24:21.880 It was gaining traction in the feminism. 1.00

01:24:23.940 Guess who stopped it?

01:24:25.740 Betty Friedan.

01:24:26.840 Her maiden name is Betty Goldstein.

01:24:29.180 And then she came and defended pornography. 0.98

01:24:33.060 So this is blood is thicker than water. 0.75

01:24:35.100 This is the Jewish principle here of pornography. 0.99

01:24:38.440 We need this to control the goyim. 1.00

01:24:40.100 And she's the one who did it and spread division in the feminist movement at a time when you were getting allies. 1.00

01:24:48.900 You could have had allies between the right and the left here against pornography.

01:24:53.220 And she disrupted that.

01:24:55.640 Yeah, it's very interesting to see that even on the conservative side and people that you would say describe themselves as ultra conservative will still defend pornography.

01:25:05.020 I think Dennis Prager defends pornography.

01:25:06.520 Yeah, Ben Shapiro defends pornography.

01:25:08.860 I remember sitting across from him at a backstage event and me and the Catholics, I was not a Catholic at the time, but me and Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh were all saying no to pornography, like not even a couple of times.

01:25:22.400 And then Ben was kind of giving this soft defense and saying, well, you know, Jewish people, it's down to the law.

01:25:28.700 And we wouldn't say I want to get the exact argument of why Jewish people don't find it to be problematic.

01:25:33.880 I think he said that it was because it's the thing, not the thought, that's the sin.

01:25:41.520 And so since they are not cheating on their wives, which I don't see how that's not cheating on your wife, watching pornography is not considered a violation.

01:25:51.780 It's not considered a sin was how he summed it up.

01:25:54.720 And then Matt sort of countered and said, OK, so you would be OK with your wife going to a hotel and watching two people have sex. 0.96

01:26:03.360 As long as she doesn't get involved, like that's not a sin.

01:26:05.620 And it was a great rebuttal.

01:26:07.140 And I was very confused.

01:26:08.120 I'm like, this is such an easy thing.

01:26:09.440 Obviously, pornography. 0.99

01:26:10.960 And that was Dennis Prager's defense as well.

01:26:13.020 He went on Matt Brad's podcast, a Catholic podcast, was like, it's the thought is not the thing.

01:26:16.960 And I'm going, don't we all know that thoughts come before the thing?

01:26:20.440 Like, you have to think it before you do it.

01:26:23.580 That's exactly what I was going to say.

01:26:24.480 You have to think it before you do it.

01:26:26.320 And it's in your mind.

01:26:27.440 And if the progression is a mortal sin is grievous matter of full consent of the will.

01:26:33.420 Well, it's got to be in your mind before you can consent to it.

01:26:36.620 And so the church would call it a near occasion of sin, which means you're putting yourself in danger by doing this.

01:26:43.060 And so you should avoid the near occasions of sin.

01:26:45.340 Now, now we've got this incredibly complicated sish. 1.00

01:26:49.720 So am I in a near occasion of sin because I'm on Twitter?

01:26:53.560 I mean, what are we doing here?

01:26:55.400 It's frustrating.

01:26:56.080 I'm like, I'm looking up something and then suddenly I'm looking at pornography.

01:26:59.500 It just pops up and it's very, very frustrating because it's just, it's wrong.

01:27:03.520 I should not have to be exposed to pornography.

01:27:05.320 We should not be exposed to this.

01:27:06.420 Because I'm looking up a hashtag that has nothing to do with pornography.

01:27:10.100 Yeah, so we should, I hope Elon Musk is listening here because we should not be exposed to this.

01:27:16.360 And you're undermining your position on free speech if you're allowing pornography because pornography is the extinction of thought.

01:27:24.400 That's the whole point of it.

01:27:25.320 So you will hear people who are conservatives who actually say, well, what are you talking about?

01:27:29.420 It's protected by the 1A.

01:27:32.000 And that fascinates me because it really lets you know that they don't know history.

01:27:34.640 They don't know how that became a thing.

01:27:36.180 They don't know who Samuel Roth is and how, for whatever reason, they've been polluted to believe that pornography is speech.

01:27:44.300 It's so obviously not speech.

01:27:46.400 It's obscenity.

01:27:47.400 It was never considered speech.

01:27:49.000 It was obscenity.

01:27:50.000 Never considered speech.

01:27:51.300 And when did it become speech?

01:27:53.180 Over the course of the 1950s and 1960s, where you had these Supreme Court decisions, where the Supreme Court is trying to figure out what is it.

01:28:03.200 And you had people like Norman Mailer.

01:28:06.320 It was a Jewish, pornography is always a Jewish operation. 1.00

01:28:10.760 Yeah, the big one was wrong.

01:28:11.620 And you find someone who would say, well, it's, the crucial thing was, it's art.

01:28:16.360 This is the crucial thing that happened with Mapplethorpe in Cincinnati.

01:28:21.140 You remember Mapplethorpe, the photographer, Catholic boy who was completely corrupted by the homosexual culture. 1.00

01:28:28.000 He is the man who valorized homosexuality. 0.92

01:28:31.900 I mean, when I was a kid, there were, you know, people, if you're hitchhiking, some queer would pick you up. 1.00

01:28:37.160 And they were creepy people.

01:28:38.940 And everybody knew they were creepy people.

01:28:41.260 But he comes along and he's got this photography of what he was doing in these places like the mineshaft.

01:28:48.880 Do you know what I mean?

01:28:49.540 And everybody is shocked, but it gave them kind of some type of heroic stature.

01:28:55.000 So anyway, the government, the NCA sponsors, the National Endowment for Arts sponsors this Mapplethorpe exhibit.

01:29:03.680 And it's immediately called Obscene.

01:29:06.620 Then they go to Cincinnati.

01:29:08.940 Cincinnati is a Catholic town.

01:29:11.080 It's always been a Catholic town.

01:29:12.480 It's been one of the bulwarks against abortion, for example.

01:29:15.840 And they put the guy on trial and the Jews fund it. 0.98

01:29:20.440 And so it comes down to it's art. 0.63

01:29:23.080 Well, by this point, the Jews had totally destroyed art. 1.00

01:29:26.300 I'm getting ahead of myself.

01:29:28.120 It's in the dangers of beauty.

01:29:29.580 If you want to talk about Connweiler and Picasso and the wreck of art, read that book.

01:29:33.940 But by this time, who knows what art is?

01:29:37.580 It's like Jackson Pollock.

01:29:40.060 Time magazine called him Jack the Dripper.

01:29:42.700 He drips on the thing.

01:29:43.900 Nelson Rockefeller buys it, puts it up on a wall of the Chase Manhattan Bank, and therefore it's art.

01:29:49.360 So now nobody knows what it is.

01:29:50.980 And you come to this obscenity trial in Cincinnati.

01:29:54.840 And the guy says, the guy's on the stand.

01:29:57.960 He said, well, they said it was art.

01:29:59.560 I don't know.

01:30:00.420 I guess it's art.

01:30:01.220 And they acquitted him.

01:30:02.280 This is how they got.

01:30:03.280 This is how they moved step by step by step to the point where you're now on Twitter and you're doing some type of search.

01:30:10.160 And suddenly, whoa, I didn't ask for that.

01:30:13.120 Really, Eli, really do us a favor.

01:30:15.680 You can do it.

01:30:17.220 You can do this.

01:30:18.080 This is not free speech.

01:30:20.400 It's the end of free speech.

01:30:21.960 It is funny that you bring up art because the more that I do research into, well, what went wrong in America, and it kind of brought me to learning a bit about Alistair Crowley and his movement.

01:30:34.580 And I want to be clear, everything that we're talking about, it was the elites that brought all of this.

01:30:38.040 I think people had this idea that it was like poor people or a fringe group.

01:30:42.240 It was always the elites who were involved in bringing pornography, people who had incredible wealth and access.

01:30:48.040 And Alistair Crowley is a great example of that because he is a person who was labeled as the wickedest man in the world, but he was friends with all of the elites, all of the elites. 0.51

01:30:57.900 Mussolini famously kicked him out because he was having this sexual ritual party. 0.82

01:31:02.040 Right.

01:31:02.160 And that guy that I was telling you about who wrote the book, Hollywood Babylon, and spoke about the beginning of the origins of Hollywood and how it was kind of always demonic and how it was a lot of Crowley's proteges who were involved in that.

01:31:15.360 He speaks about that house that Mussolini eventually kicked Alistair Crowley and his people out.

01:31:22.360 And in an interview, he speaks about how art, modern art, was all a part of this house and who visited this house.

01:31:28.180 Alfred Kinsey, as an example, all of the psychologists, all of these people that we know introduced these perverse ideas via psychology were a part of this nest, if you will.

01:31:40.260 So, like, in believing in sexual rituals and sexual freedom, Alistair Crowley, he was the precursor to the hippie movement.

01:31:47.440 Like, it was a bunch of elites getting together.

01:31:49.240 He's on the cover of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper album.

01:31:51.220 He's one of the figures on the cover there.

01:31:52.740 That album cover.

01:31:55.000 Okay.

01:31:56.820 Tons of conspiracies.

01:31:58.380 I'm Catholic now.

01:31:59.440 I don't believe conspiracies.

01:32:00.500 I believe in Providence, and people should examine that because I am now fully convinced, after having read Chaos, that the Beatles were, like, a CIA psychological operation.

01:32:12.740 And I think towards the end, maybe they started speaking about that because, you know, when John Lennon—was it John Lennon who got shot?

01:32:20.420 Sorry, I know I sound really young.

01:32:22.240 It was John Lennon who got shot?

01:32:23.480 Yeah, 1981.

01:32:24.480 The CIA was there.

01:32:25.260 I don't know if you know about that.

01:32:26.240 Didn't know that.

01:32:26.720 Yes, the CIA was there when he got shot, and the story never actually made sense, the catcher in the rye whole bit.

01:32:32.320 But what's fascinating about that is on that cover, I think they're telling you a lot.

01:32:37.100 I think if you really look at the list—I talked about that on my podcast—of that album, and you realize what was happening in the 60s full stop.

01:32:45.200 I mean, they were dealing with trying to create mass psychoses.

01:32:48.180 I think that they were brought in in 1964 to distract everyone from the Kennedy assassination.

01:32:53.240 And I think that was the—especially our—my generation.

01:32:57.620 Yeah, well, they created fake celebrities.

01:32:59.380 There's no question about that, that there were government—like, some of these celebrities work for the government.

01:33:03.280 I think actors, too.

01:33:04.300 Like, there are some actors that, to me—like, Sean Penn.

01:33:07.760 I'm just like, why is there ever—every time—like, or Bono—is it Bono?

01:33:11.260 So every time there's anything going on, like, suddenly, like, Bono's performing over here, and Sean Penn's doing a movie on it, and obviously, Pentagon makes films.

01:33:19.740 So it's a psychological—Hollywood, in and of itself, is a government psychological operation.

01:33:24.160 We're trained to believe history happened this way.

01:33:26.240 If they make a cinematic masterpiece, you know, about Pearl Harbor, then you have no questions about the narrative.

01:33:31.000 If they make a cinematic masterpiece—

01:33:32.420 They created the narrative.

01:33:33.620 They created the Holocaust narrative. 0.93

01:33:35.080 But it's all mass psychosis.

01:33:36.540 Hollywood was created—

01:33:37.780 Billy Wilder was there filming the CIA—it wasn't CIA.

01:33:44.240 It didn't exist anymore.

01:33:44.920 But the psychological warfare operation that was under General McClure, under Eisenhower, had C.D. Jackson show up at Buchenwald and create this spectacle of the—people were brought in from Weimar,

01:33:58.780 and he held up a—there was a lampshade, supposedly made out of Jewish skin.

01:34:04.300 There was a pelvis—it was supposed to be an ashtray—and two shrunken heads.

01:34:08.520 What's this got to do with Germany at all?

01:34:10.580 Germans do not shrink heads, I guarantee you.

01:34:12.900 They were taken from a museum from Amazon tribes that do shrink heads. 1.00

01:34:17.900 The man who filmed this was Billy Wilder.

01:34:20.920 Billy Wilder went on to be famous as the director of Marilyn Monroe in Some Like It Hot and One, Two, Three, and a lot of things.

01:34:29.060 That's where it got started.

01:34:30.240 That's where the narrative got started.

01:34:31.520 Hollywood was a crucial part in the creation of this narrative.

01:34:36.320 It still is a crucial part in the creation of every narrative.

01:34:39.180 I think you're right.

01:34:39.820 But that's why I show people, do you think it's normal that Hollywood, at the Pentagon, they have an office dedicated to film, Hollywood films,

01:34:47.400 and they go in and sit with the directors and tell them how to make things as they're telling you stories?

01:34:51.200 Like, the CIA was involved in the film Zero Dark Thirty.

01:34:55.960 So do you really trust the CIA to tell you exactly what happened when they captured Osama bin Laden?

01:35:00.860 I don't know.

01:35:01.300 Maybe you do.

01:35:01.840 And I went through this list of showing them all of the films that the CIA funded and helped produce and told them how to shoot it,

01:35:07.940 and they have their guys go down there on Hollywood sets.

01:35:10.060 Shouldn't that indicate to you just naturally, like, hey, maybe we're not getting the full picture,

01:35:15.040 and they're making a beautiful movie so that we have this emotional reaction and attachment to believing that this is how it happened.

01:35:21.520 And it's not history.

01:35:23.220 It's a narrowly tailored version of history that is supposed to make you connect with the narrative.

01:35:29.820 Like, whether—and it's always, like, these big stories they pick, the Titanic even.

01:35:33.820 Oh, this beautiful love story, and Rose is on the boat, and she's dying, and then you don't really ask any questions.

01:35:40.740 Like, this just must be exactly how it went down.

01:35:43.140 And so it is interesting to revisit Hollywood through the lens of understanding that it is and forever has been a way to implement a mass psychosis

01:35:53.940 because now they have the technology.

01:35:55.340 They don't have to just put you in a theater and try to convince you from far away like they did in France.

01:36:01.020 Now they have the technology and also the means to then make that a blockbuster film

01:36:06.300 and to give it awards, the Academy Awards and Oscars, so that you're drawn to go want to see the film that's winning all of these awards

01:36:12.940 and is nominated for all of these statues.

01:36:16.460 I think that's part of the reason the Catholics lost their nerve, 1.00

01:36:20.620 because Hollywood had become the propaganda ministry literally during World War II.

01:36:25.600 These are propaganda—

01:36:26.200 Edward Bernays.

01:36:27.600 That was earlier, too.

01:36:30.160 But, I mean, I'm saying—and so you're now sort of—we still have communism.

01:36:34.820 It's still 1960s.

01:36:36.940 You still have communism.

01:36:37.880 You have the anti-communist crusade and so on and so forth.

01:36:40.620 And so is it un-American, then, to oppose Hollywood?

01:36:45.380 We're dealing also with the fact that Hollywood creates role models for the rest of us,

01:36:50.940 and they create the ideal black, and they create the ideal Catholic, and they create the ideal so on and so forth.

01:36:56.240 And we, as a result, suffer from identity theft.

01:36:59.440 So we don't know who we are anymore.

01:37:01.480 Our behavior is being socially engineered from Hollywood.

01:37:04.080 And, again, that book, Hollywood Babylon, made me realize that when it started speaking about how they perfectly engineered—

01:37:11.280 they intentionally engineered women to stop wearing skirts and start wearing pants. 0.95

01:37:14.440 And they brought in this dyke from Germany, and they made her a star. 1.00

01:37:18.120 I mean, totally fake.

01:37:18.880 Just turned her into a star.

01:37:19.780 Red carpets.

01:37:20.500 And everyone was reading about her and seeing her, and they thought she was so cool.

01:37:24.020 And you see this now when you capture these various psychoses, like you speak to young girls or see them regarding Taylor Swift or Beyonce.

01:37:33.500 What is this?

01:37:34.980 Well, what's happened is you believe you're an atheist, but you're not an atheist.

01:37:38.400 You have many gods.

01:37:40.420 You're a pagan. 0.97

01:37:40.860 And there are these Hollywood stars that you worship like they're idols, and you'll sacrifice anything.

01:37:47.000 Like, there was an article which described how adult women were going to the Taylor Swift concert wearing diapers because they didn't want to miss a single second of her three-hour concert.

01:37:56.280 So they decided to just go in their diapers if they needed to.

01:37:59.780 What is that?

01:38:02.160 Infantilization?

01:38:02.760 And it's completely demonic.

01:38:06.000 And this is not me trying to attack Taylor Swift, but just people not realizing you've been possessed, right?

01:38:13.000 You are now worshiping this person, and Hollywood creates the idols so they can introduce anything.

01:38:18.120 Now you can see they're pushing hardcore for the trans stuff.

01:38:21.960 And now everybody to be a star is, like, non-binary and, you know, gender-bending.

01:38:26.300 And it's something that people need to wake up to, that Hollywood in and of itself is demonic, and it always has been.

01:38:35.160 There wasn't, like, a decade where it was moral and that the people that were the actors were good people.

01:38:40.420 But it was possible to keep them under control for 32 years, and we have to keep that in mind, too.

01:38:46.640 Hegel said the Oiler for Minerv flieck mice by Denelung.

01:38:51.060 The owl of Minerva usually flies at twilight.

01:38:53.920 He's talking about twilight of the empire, twilight of the age.

01:38:58.080 I think that's what we're living in right now.

01:39:00.360 The owl of wisdom, because at the twilight, things start to break down.

01:39:04.220 All of the narratives that we were raised with are starting to collapse, and there's this vacuum now, you know?

01:39:11.420 And I think that's the service that we can provide.

01:39:15.260 We can say, no, no, there is a real order to the universe.

01:39:19.680 It's not something that's created by Hollywood.

01:39:22.060 No, God created that order for the universe, and all we have to do is go back to the order he created and start from there.

01:39:30.680 Why do you think it's starting to crack, though?

01:39:32.320 Because it is interesting to see this.

01:39:33.640 Like, suddenly people are starting to ask questions.

01:39:37.360 People are going, wait, what's really happening?

01:39:40.000 The mainstream media, nobody trusts them anymore except for a very small group.

01:39:45.140 That's why they're demanding the Internet be censored, because they're realizing people are beginning to question their authority.

01:39:52.060 But what do you think is contributing to that?

01:39:55.220 Emmanuel Tote is a French writer.

01:39:57.000 He wrote a book called La Defaite de l'Occident.

01:39:59.720 La Defaite de l'Occident.

01:40:01.700 The Defeat of the West.

01:40:02.840 And he said, basically, the American empire is collapsing because Protestantism has evaporated.

01:40:11.580 That's what he said.

01:40:13.600 Protestantism is the hidden grammar of America.

01:40:17.600 If Samuel Huntington wrote a book called Who Are We?

01:40:20.880 And he said, we, if you mean Americans, we are Anglo-Protestants.

01:40:24.780 He's talking about the Puritans.

01:40:27.580 Obviously, there were French in Canada, there were Spaniards in Mexico.

01:40:31.660 But this Puritan group conquered every other group in America, including the southerner states in the Civil War.

01:40:39.140 And they were Puritans.

01:40:40.980 And so that's great.

01:40:42.420 I think he's right.

01:40:43.400 I think the Protestantism is evaporating.

01:40:45.480 It had a 500-year run, okay, but now it's running out of steam.

01:40:49.240 And so, but the problem is he doesn't understand Protestantism.

01:40:55.140 So, yeah, Protestantism was the hidden grammar of America.

01:40:58.140 But what's the hidden grammar of Protestantism?

01:41:00.940 It's Satanism.

01:41:02.800 Now, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

01:41:04.540 You can't say that.

01:41:05.620 Well, why am I saying that?

01:41:06.820 I'm talking about the Puritans.

01:41:09.040 Who was the great Puritan poet?

01:41:12.460 It was John Milton.

01:41:14.540 What is this great epic called?

01:41:16.440 It's called Paradise Lost.

01:41:17.740 Who's the hero of Paradise Lost?

01:41:21.160 It's Satan.

01:41:22.600 Every romantic poet knew this.

01:41:25.000 The people, all, he glamorized Satan.

01:41:28.240 It's one of the greatest pieces of literature in the English language when Satan wakes up in hell.

01:41:36.440 And he's been defeated by the God and the good angels.

01:41:40.080 And he looks around him and he says, we're going to regroup.

01:41:44.780 I got a plan.

01:41:45.880 And he ends with his speech by saying, awake, arise, or be forever fallen.

01:41:51.300 He's addressing those demons there.

01:41:52.900 And what does he say?

01:41:54.220 He said, the mind is its own place.

01:41:57.540 We don't need him to tell us what to do.

01:42:00.460 It's better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven.

01:42:03.860 Well, there's a strain of America that feels that way.

01:42:06.180 There's a strain of America.

01:42:08.000 And we have to face up to that fact.

01:42:09.980 And we have to face up to the fact that this has had its day.

01:42:15.060 Those people have had their day and it's collapsing and there's a vacuum.

01:42:20.140 And whenever there's a vacuum, people go crazy because they don't know how to act.

01:42:23.400 So I have a huge following of Protestants.

01:42:27.560 How can you not if you're in America?

01:42:28.700 And when they hear that, when they hear you say Protestantism is a form of Satanism or is Satanism, I want you to explain why it is that you're saying that.

01:42:39.460 Because that's hugely controversial.

01:42:42.020 What was the Reformation?

01:42:42.920 It was a looting operation.

01:42:47.960 There was no theological.

01:42:49.460 I'm talking about the English Reformation in particular.

01:42:52.360 There is no theological justification for the Reformation.

01:42:55.860 It was basically the aristocrats wanted church property.

01:42:59.800 RH 20 wrote the book called Religion and the Rise of Capitalism.

01:43:03.600 He said the upstart aristocracy had their teeth in the carcass and they weren't going to be driven off by a sermon.

01:43:12.920 That's church property.

01:43:14.500 That was the basis of the new England.

01:43:17.500 They stole that property.

01:43:19.520 Okay.

01:43:19.860 How did they justify?

01:43:21.000 They're in rebellion against the order, the established order.

01:43:24.860 For 900 years, the Catholic Church used the wealth of England to provide in part for an establishment of institutions that would take you in if you were sick, if you needed a place to stay.

01:43:41.060 The Benedictine's charism was hospitality.

01:43:44.160 That was all turned on its head overnight by the Protestant Reformation. 0.90

01:43:49.120 William Cobbett's the man to read about this.

01:43:51.220 His History of the Reformation in England and Ireland is an absolutely devastating book in this regard.

01:43:56.660 So at this point, you had capitalism.

01:43:59.100 Nobody liked it.

01:44:00.200 Nobody, they had to create the first police force, thought police force, Walsingham under Queen Elizabeth, spying on people.

01:44:10.380 Shakespeare wrote at a time, he knew what was going on.

01:44:12.820 He wrote at a time when if you were caught saying mass, they would take you and hang you till you weren't dead.

01:44:19.400 And then they disembowel you and boil your entrails in oil if you were a Catholic. 0.91

01:44:25.060 And then that got ratified in the Glorious Revolution.

01:44:29.160 And it was, these are the people.

01:44:30.920 So these people, the English people didn't like it.

01:44:33.500 The other sects didn't like the established church.

01:44:35.460 And you had the Puritan Revolution in the 1640s.

01:44:38.020 And it was John Milton who was the secretary to Cromwell.

01:44:42.440 And Cromwell killed the king.

01:44:44.940 That's rageicide.

01:44:47.120 That's satanic.

01:44:49.100 This is the origin of the Puritans.

01:44:51.660 There's no other origin.

01:44:53.120 That's what they were.

01:44:54.220 So what happened?

01:44:55.000 Okay, we're Americans.

01:44:56.320 What happens when they come here?

01:44:57.760 You got to survive.

01:44:59.740 And so the religion got modified gradually.

01:45:03.420 Because we got to live through the winter here.

01:45:06.220 We're in the forest of New England.

01:45:07.580 We're moving west.

01:45:08.840 It's all this hostile territory.

01:45:10.980 And the religion eventually got modified to the point where that's what Americans are. 0.82

01:45:16.340 They're people who modify their religion in light of the frontier.

01:45:22.620 Okay, and that's interesting.

01:45:24.240 So what a Protestant would say is, okay, but you can't ignore the fact that the Catholic Church, 0.69

01:45:32.100 that Rome was corrupt.

01:45:33.620 And Martin Luther did this great service by pointing out via his theses, which he notoriously nailed onto the wall,

01:45:42.620 except maybe there's no evidence that he actually did that.

01:45:43.980 But they would say, okay, can you admit that there was corruption in the church?

01:45:51.600 And so he is there for...

01:45:52.560 There's never been a time where there is not corruption in the church.

01:45:55.040 There's corruption in the church right now.

01:45:56.700 The question is, are you willing to break with the church to deal with the corruption?

01:46:01.060 Great saints have always fought corruption in the church.

01:46:03.400 This is, you're getting the Whig history version of Martin Luther. 0.95

01:46:08.400 You get it in school, you get it everywhere.

01:46:10.760 Martin Luther was a Catholic priest.

01:46:14.260 Okay.

01:46:14.680 He had trouble controlling his passions.

01:46:17.500 Remember passions here?

01:46:19.540 Okay.

01:46:19.900 Had trouble with drink, had trouble with gluttony, had trouble with sex, and he had trouble with anger.

01:46:26.100 Okay.

01:46:27.360 And now he breaks with the church.

01:46:29.680 And as soon as he breaks with the church, the aristocrats come in and they support him because they want the church property.

01:46:36.460 So at a certain point, what's he doing now?

01:46:38.080 He's going in.

01:46:39.000 This is the Protestant party.

01:46:41.640 They're going in.

01:46:42.300 They're going into convents and they're dragging the nuns out. 0.88

01:46:45.900 They're dragging the nuns out.

01:46:47.300 He's writing the bishop, the archbishop of Mainz saying, you can have the best, prettiest nun of the lot if you join the Reformation party. 0.77

01:46:57.820 What do you call a man who offers up women to men for sexual services? 0.99

01:47:04.000 A pimp. 0.99

01:47:04.880 That's what it was.

01:47:06.220 And so what does he do?

01:47:07.620 He cannot contain this anymore.

01:47:09.640 He caves in.

01:47:11.640 He marries Catalina from Bora, another nun. 0.83

01:47:14.160 They both break their vows to do this.

01:47:16.360 Okay.

01:47:17.780 Everybody's talking about this.

01:47:20.060 And he's writing to other priests who have broken their vows and married nuns.

01:47:25.440 And he writes, her nickname was Keita in German.

01:47:29.960 And he called her Keta, which is a German word for chain.

01:47:33.840 Sometimes he called her Katena, which is a Latin word for chain.

01:47:36.760 My Katena greets your Katena.

01:47:38.780 He'd write this ironically to the priest.

01:47:41.120 So he doesn't leave it at that.

01:47:42.340 That's bad enough.

01:47:43.000 What he did is he made a theological principle out of his own vice.

01:47:50.000 And it was called De Servo Arbitrio of the Enslaved Will.

01:47:53.500 In other words, I had no choice in the matter.

01:47:55.420 God did it.

01:47:56.940 God rules my life completely.

01:47:58.900 And he introduced this idea of sola fide, sola gratia, sola scriptura.

01:48:06.000 They become the pillars of the Reformation.

01:48:07.960 One of them is sola gratia, by grace alone.

01:48:12.280 You're saved by grace alone.

01:48:13.960 The reformers did this.

01:48:15.240 Calvin was the main moving force behind the Puritans in New England. 0.99

01:48:20.140 He believed in sola gratia.

01:48:21.580 What did they do?

01:48:22.640 You say you're saved by grace alone.

01:48:24.980 At the same time, you cut off everyone from the source of grace, which is the sacraments of the Catholic Church.

01:48:32.620 There's no other source of grace.

01:48:35.140 That's the way Jesus Christ founded that church.

01:48:38.240 And so now you've got Americans in this position.

01:48:41.420 England, they had their own issues, but that's a civilized country that have thousands of years of tradition.

01:48:46.080 They come to America and everybody goes crazy. 0.98

01:48:50.880 There are periodic episodes of craziness in America.

01:48:53.760 The Salem Witch Trials, a mass hysteria, a moral panic.

01:48:57.100 And then you had the Great Awakening in the 1730s.

01:49:00.620 What is going on here?

01:49:01.760 There are people who they can't get rid of the guilt.

01:49:07.200 They can't get rid of the guilt.

01:49:08.560 I've done something wrong.

01:49:09.500 I don't know what to do about it.

01:49:10.640 So we have these emotional issues where you're rolling on the ground.

01:49:13.240 The genius who understood this was Nathaniel Hawthorne.

01:49:19.320 And the great book that nailed this was the Scarlet Letter.

01:49:23.920 And the premise of the Scarlet Letter is you're a minister.

01:49:28.500 Now, you had to be a saint, a visible saint on earth to be a member of that church, the Puritan church.

01:49:35.420 And now you've got the minister who has to even be higher, a higher level, and the minister committed adultery.

01:49:40.580 Now, what do you do when you're saved and you commit adultery?

01:49:44.800 That's Hawthorne's understanding, the genius of Hawthorne.

01:49:49.280 To understand and nail that whole psychological problem in one piece of literature had a tremendous effect during the middle of the 19th century,

01:49:59.320 which is the time when everybody in America basically turned away from Calvinism.

01:50:04.600 And you went in the exact opposite direction to Emerson, the religion of nature.

01:50:12.080 Emerson wrote, Emerson hated Calvinism.

01:50:16.080 Okay.

01:50:16.620 Thoreau hated Calvinism.

01:50:18.460 Hawthorne hated Calvinism.

01:50:20.100 Melville hated Calvinism.

01:50:21.500 Okay.

01:50:22.300 So Emerson writes an essay called self-reliance.

01:50:25.560 Wait a minute.

01:50:26.360 In the middle of self-reliance, he's saying the only thing that's important is the integrity of your own mind.

01:50:32.240 He got that from Satan in Milton.

01:50:35.080 The mind is its own place.

01:50:37.140 He's quoting that.

01:50:38.860 And then someone says, it's in self-reliance, famous essay.

01:50:42.260 The man says, well, what if that's from the devil?

01:50:45.260 And Emerson said, well, if it's from the devil, then I am of the devil's party.

01:50:49.160 So he repudiated everything about Calvin except that satanic gist of what it was.

01:50:56.940 I am of the devil's party.

01:50:58.600 You can't tell me what to think.

01:51:00.200 I am of the devil's party.

01:51:01.820 That had an incredibly far-reaching effect on the American psyche.

01:51:10.260 So what do we have?

01:51:11.360 You know, ain't no one going to tell me what to do.

01:51:13.960 So this is the kind of rebellious spirit that got ingrained in America.

01:51:19.640 And I think that's what's reaching its culmination now.

01:51:23.220 It's interesting because I, I guess, had never considered the city of God versus the city

01:51:27.740 of man, obviously, before I had began reading this book.

01:51:31.780 And one of the things that made me pivot away from Protestantism was really just a comment

01:51:36.560 that someone left on my YouTube video where he, after a debate that I was hosting between

01:51:41.560 my husband, Ali Stuckey, said that Protestantism found a perfect home in America where there

01:51:46.240 is no authority and you get, everything gets to be your truth, my truth, my truth, my truth,

01:51:49.880 which is why there's so many different versions of the Protestant faith.

01:51:52.800 And I realized that if you don't believe in authority, first and foremost, politically,

01:51:57.380 that would make you a leftist.

01:51:58.880 And, you know, you become your own God, essentially.

01:52:01.580 And you can decide for you what actually works and take what you want and leave what you want.

01:52:06.120 And then it becomes, again, my truth.

01:52:08.500 And so it's interesting, though, to see that, yeah, if there isn't an authority, because

01:52:12.760 that is one of the things that they hate the most is the concept of a pope, a concept of

01:52:17.180 it's like, no, anybody can be saved.

01:52:18.940 Any person can just do this by themselves and figure it out themselves on their own journey

01:52:22.560 as long as they abide by the Bible.

01:52:25.060 And it is in that regard.

01:52:28.140 And I think it's called Protestant protest for a reason. 0.99

01:52:32.900 It is in that regard, I think, fair to ask the question about whether or not that does

01:52:37.480 mean this is the city of man, right?

01:52:39.960 This is the city of man, where man is not getting rid of themself to, you know, to subjugate

01:52:47.580 themselves to God, but rather are not, like, finding themselves and trying to figure out

01:52:51.400 what elements of themselves that they want to keep.

01:52:53.080 And I think as you see the divisions, which seem to never end, I think now, just now, there's

01:52:57.480 been a major split and people are saying, well, women can be priests.

01:53:01.100 I think that just happened.

01:53:02.020 One of the megachurches decided to split and say, actually, the Bible says women can be priests.

01:53:07.040 And I just think next thing it's going to be, well, there's nothing in the Bible that 0.88

01:53:10.200 prevents there being, you know, homosexuals. 0.99

01:53:15.040 And you're seeing that in the Methodist church, trans flags waving, just a different version 1.00

01:53:19.540 of the truth, the truth, the truth, and no official authority on what the truth is.

01:53:23.700 Right.

01:53:24.020 You have the three main mainstream churches, the Anglicans, the Presbyterians, and the

01:53:28.800 Methodists have three churches in South Bend, Indiana.

01:53:31.940 They were the people that basically, especially the Methodists, had a huge impact on the West

01:53:36.280 when Indiana was the West. 0.98

01:53:38.500 They're all flying gay flags. 1.00

01:53:41.320 Well, wait a minute. 0.99

01:53:42.300 This is a bad marketing strategy, if nothing else.

01:53:45.760 Why are they doing it? 0.99

01:53:46.620 I think it's probably because the clergy are, to a large extent, homosexuals. 0.95

01:53:51.340 And people don't, they can't, they just can't bring themselves to go to the church anymore. 0.64

01:53:57.100 You know, like the old, we were, a friend of mine, his mother was buried out of the Presbyterian

01:54:01.160 church. 0.95

01:54:01.460 There's a gay flag flying out of there. 0.99

01:54:04.180 So she didn't believe in that. 0.96

01:54:05.960 She was kind of betrayed by her own church.

01:54:07.900 This is what I mean by the evaporation of Protestants. 1.00

01:54:12.100 It's evaporating as we speak.

01:54:14.120 And those three are the three mainstream denominations are an example of what I'm talking about.

01:54:19.400 What do you think is going to happen in America now that we're kind of coming upon this turning

01:54:24.220 a point?

01:54:24.680 Out of nowhere, people are starting to wake up and starting to realize that the battle is spiritual,

01:54:29.340 even people that believe themselves to be atheists are now commenting and saying, I'm starting

01:54:34.020 to go to church.

01:54:34.560 I'm starting to read the Bible.

01:54:35.420 I'm starting to recognize that the answers are there.

01:54:38.100 Where does this end?

01:54:39.080 Because I would just say that the more people awaken, it seems the more the authorities come

01:54:43.680 in because they realize they've got to kind of...

01:54:45.560 Absolutely.

01:54:45.980 You're absolutely right.

01:54:47.240 So it's going to come down to Catholicism or Satanism.

01:54:50.900 It's that simple.

01:54:52.540 What are the options?

01:54:53.520 It's the city of God and the city of man.

01:54:55.380 It's love of God to the extinction of self or love of self to the extinction of God.

01:55:00.520 It's all these intermediary things are going to just pass away.

01:55:03.520 They're all going to evaporate and you're going to be faced with that choice.

01:55:07.000 And exactly, that's the choice that at that time Hawthorne was faced with.

01:55:13.320 People don't realize that the fundamental axis is East and West in America.

01:55:17.900 And the men of letters all went to Europe.

01:55:20.840 And they all, when they went to Europe, they go to Rome.

01:55:23.060 And when they go to Rome, they go to St. Peter's.

01:55:24.740 And when you go to St. Peter's, you guys, the guy from this little New England village,

01:55:29.620 clapboard, white clapboard churches, and you look at something this magnificent and beautiful.

01:55:34.340 And you're immediately confronted with the thought, if this is beautiful, maybe it's true.

01:55:40.200 Because truth and beauty are transcendentals.

01:55:42.660 And this is exactly what happened to Hawthorne.

01:55:46.260 Hawthorne made money, wrote a biography of Franklin Pierce.

01:55:50.800 Franklin Pierce made him consul in Liverpool.

01:55:53.560 He earned money there, took his entire family to Rome.

01:55:57.360 God brought him to Rome.

01:55:59.140 God brought him to St. Peter's.

01:56:00.680 And God brought him to the confessional.

01:56:04.040 This is the man who wrote the book about America, the Puritan unable to go to confession.

01:56:10.000 And here he's facing the confessional.

01:56:12.800 And suddenly the door opens and an Italian walks out. 1.00

01:56:16.940 I mean, what were you expecting?

01:56:18.400 And he's upset.

01:56:19.480 You can see he's upset.

01:56:20.220 So he said it should have angels running the machine.

01:56:22.740 This is in the Marble Forum, the last thing he wrote.

01:56:25.680 He couldn't do it.

01:56:27.660 I'm trying to figure out why would he?

01:56:30.180 I think there was some type of ethnic problem here.

01:56:33.780 Because in order to become a Catholic in the 1840s, basically had to become either Irish or German.

01:56:40.680 He's not Irish or German.

01:56:42.580 You know, what am I going to do?

01:56:43.820 There was some block here, but what did happen is his daughter, Rose, became a Catholic.

01:56:50.460 And she not became a Catholic.

01:56:51.940 She became a nun.

01:56:53.580 And then she created a home for people who were dying, indigents who were dying of incurable cancer.

01:57:00.720 So if you had money and you were dying of curable cancer, she wouldn't take you.

01:57:04.040 You had to be indigent, dying of cancer.

01:57:06.000 She did that for her entire life after she converted.

01:57:08.600 And at the end of it, she prayed to God that God would take her in her sleep.

01:57:13.640 And he did.

01:57:14.260 God took her in her sleep.

01:57:15.700 She worked doing that until the day she died. 0.62

01:57:18.160 And now she's on her way to begun the canonization.

01:57:21.180 I'm saying this has always been part of American history.

01:57:24.780 And it's always been submerged.

01:57:27.320 And now we can't submerge this anymore.

01:57:29.720 Because that whole middle point here of these Protestant churches who were essential to the founding and the creation of this culture, they're all disappearing.

01:57:40.540 And the gist of what they were is remaining.

01:57:44.060 It's Satanism.

01:57:45.440 It's rebellion.

01:57:46.620 I'm not trying to say this to offend anyone.

01:57:49.060 I'm just trying to say historically, if you go back to John Milton, he's the poet of the Puritans.

01:57:55.680 And the hero of that poem is Satan.

01:57:58.720 And there's this rebellious spirit that has been part of American life ever since the Puritans got here.

01:58:07.040 So what would you recommend to the very many men and some women as well, many women as well, who are struggling with pornography, giving themselves into the sex industry, obviously knowing that they are spiritually in conflict.

01:58:19.340 But it's a way to make money.

01:58:21.680 And, you know, it's easy money for women. 1.00

01:58:24.240 That's why they really give themselves to the sex industry. 1.00

01:58:26.460 And for men, obviously, they're being compelled by the libido and they're just willing to spend all of this money to have access to their addiction and fundamentally being weakened.

01:58:36.320 What would you recommend to them is the tool?

01:58:38.940 You have to stop watching pornography.

01:58:40.900 There's no question about it.

01:58:42.460 Now, how you stop watching it is another problem.

01:58:45.460 There are groups that kind of can coach you how to stop this thing.

01:58:50.640 You've got to find some way to stop it.

01:58:53.060 Now, some guys just stop because I told them it was a form of control.

01:58:57.100 Hey, I'm not going to be controlled anymore.

01:58:58.520 And they stop.

01:58:59.740 Sometimes it's an addiction that's really difficult to stop.

01:59:02.860 And so we're here at a fundamental, fundamental issue here.

01:59:06.920 Can you get through this life without supernatural help?

01:59:13.140 Can you do it on your own?

01:59:14.960 Can you be like Emerson and say it's just self-reliance?

01:59:18.820 I don't think you can.

01:59:20.700 I don't think you can.

01:59:21.660 I think you need help.

01:59:23.200 The help is known as grace.

01:59:25.700 And grace comes from the sacraments.

01:59:27.320 And so there was a time when Thoreau wrote a Walden Ponds, a famous American thing.

01:59:33.920 And he said, he said, you know, if you go into nature, you're meeting up with God.

01:59:37.900 That's true.

01:59:38.720 That's true because God created nature.

01:59:40.660 And then he takes it a step further.

01:59:42.360 He says, a morning in spring is like the forgiveness of sins.

01:59:45.960 Now, I'm sorry.

01:59:47.220 I love mornings in spring, but that's not the forgiveness of sin.

01:59:50.800 There's only one source for you when you say there is forgiveness of sin is what Jesus

01:59:58.140 Christ said to Peter.

01:59:59.220 He said, you are Peter and upon this rock, I will build my church and the gates of hell

02:00:04.840 will not prevail against it.

02:00:06.780 And whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven.

02:00:09.760 That's the only reason anyone has an idea that there is forgiveness of sin.

02:00:14.740 And so I'm saying, if you need that supernatural help, it's there.

02:00:18.440 But, and we all need it.

02:00:21.660 I mean, Orestes Brownson converted to Catholicism.

02:00:24.300 He said, look, you can't expect Americans to be faithful to their wives because they don't 0.89

02:00:29.480 get married with sacramental marriage.

02:00:31.060 They don't have the grace.

02:00:32.160 This is the whole hidden story of American history that Hawthorne understood and exposed.

02:00:38.680 And we have to relearn it, I think.

02:00:41.220 So I wish I could tell you that, you know, you buy this, my 12-step program, and I will guarantee

02:00:47.360 you that I, E. Michael Jones, will save you from every sin you ever committed.

02:00:51.580 And I can't do it.

02:00:53.320 I can't do it.

02:00:54.060 There's only one person who did it.

02:00:55.740 Jesus Christ commissioned the church to do it.

02:00:58.040 And that's why the church has the sacrament of confession.

02:01:02.900 Absolutely amazing.

02:01:04.480 Well, can you tell everybody where they can pick up your book, Libido Domenandi?

02:01:08.220 Yes, the second edition is now available at FidelityPress.org.

02:01:14.200 Do not go to Amazon.

02:01:16.240 If you go to Amazon, someone will charge you $1,000 for that book.

02:01:20.360 You can get it for $38.

02:01:22.540 Go to FidelityPress.org.

02:01:25.560 That's where it's available.

02:01:26.760 I'm telling you guys, go get this because I've only just begun it, and it's absolutely

02:01:31.000 fascinating.

02:01:31.640 It's not a book that you can put down, and it ties in together everything that we've been

02:01:35.220 discussing on the podcast, E. Michael Jones, the ADL man, the SPLC man.

02:01:41.820 Are you number one, or am I number one?

02:01:44.380 No, no, no, no, no.

02:01:45.320 You are.

02:01:45.800 You've been on the list longer.

02:01:46.880 No, you're number one.

02:01:47.540 Yeah, it's very clear.

02:01:48.720 It's very clear.

02:01:49.600 Once you're on their list, no one should ever listen to you.

02:01:52.460 But thank you so much.

02:01:53.660 I definitively plan to have you back because you've written so many books about fascinating

02:01:57.100 topics that I'm just really coming to terms with now, and it has brought me back to

02:02:02.000 the church, like the only answer in understanding anything that's happening in the world

02:02:05.060 is to recognize that it's a spiritual battle.

02:02:07.500 It's always been a holy war, and the only way that you're going to be able to guard

02:02:11.140 yourself against it is by recognizing that and pursuing truth, and the truth is Jesus

02:02:15.780 Christ.

02:02:17.040 Amen, sister.

02:02:18.300 Amen.

02:02:18.600 Amen.

Candace Owens - July 18, 2025

Candace Owens x E. Michael Jones

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