Candace Owens - Candace Owens x Ian Carroll

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, the internet asked, and I am totally delivering on this Thursday. You're not going to believe who I have in studio. Right from the grocery aisles, Ian Carroll, who is blowing up. Do not, you're just not going to want to miss this conversation. Welcome back to Candace.

00:00:15.100 I can't believe you're here in the flesh. I just, this is amazing. I, I, you're taller. Actually, I thought you were taller. I have to say that. You've got good senses. Yeah. As the internet's been finding out.

00:00:39.680 I was like, I feel like Ian Carroll's tall. And I was correct on that. Yeah. Okay. So much to unpack. But first and foremost, there are a thousand things people want us to get into and about because we are basically kind of on the same train, I would say. I also love that you're from the left. Yeah. And because there's this moment happening where people are kind of getting closer to the middle and realizing some things, I think everyone's become a little bit more moderate and less enthused with Democrats or Republicans.

00:01:08.360 Before we get into more serious stuff, I do have to bring up just to honor that, listen to this show, the house and habit saga that you have been drafted into and nobody knows why. Where were you and what were you doing when you got hit by a house and habit newsletter?

00:01:26.640 Um, I don't remember where I was or what I was doing. Didn't really register that much. I got a text message cause I don't check my emails and I got a, Oh, I do remember who sent it to me. It was, it was like, like a aunt that adopted me sort of that mess. He's like, did you see what house and habit said in her newsletter? It's like, I, and I was like, no, I didn't. And I eventually I went and checked it out once. I think it was actually, once you started talking about, I was like, maybe I should see what she said in her newsletter.

00:01:51.180 Yeah. And it was just so out of left field because I've, I've treated her as nothing but nice. I really enjoyed her. I saw her as like a friend in the industry, had her on podcasts multiple times. Um, Oh, I didn't know this.

00:02:02.620 Yeah. Yeah. So I, I like guest host on a podcast called the club Maha podcast. And we had had her in, I think two or three times as like a guest host, just like hanging out, talking, talking smack and just having a good time. And I had no understanding that I was a bad person. Um, and I think the first dig was like about like boys, like it was about the Joe Rogan interview and about boys sort of like running the narrative or something. I forget exactly what she said in it, but it kind of was like water off the back, whatever. This is weird. Um, and then I started

00:02:32.600 to follow what you were doing and partway through, which is what I said in the video I post that became really controversial is partway through your video that first dug it open. I realized that I knew this Emily Hagan that you were talking about. And I just put two and two together and was like, what is going on? Right. And I immediately went to her Instagram and watched like an hour of stories and it was, yeah, game over. Totally insane. I, and it really was so accidental. And I had the exact same feeling going into it as I'd been nothing but nice to Jessica Reed Kraut.

00:03:02.580 I did a podcast in January. I did a podcast in January. Then I look, Tucker also got sideswept for no reason. He similarly had her backstage at one of his events. And then suddenly there's this newsletter. And what bothered me about it was just how it was fundamentally dishonest is how I felt like saying, trying to pretend that Tucker or instill this, instill this idea that Tucker is somehow being pushed by the Iranians, Iranian propaganda.

00:03:28.240 Well, I'm being pushed by Qatar. So, you know, you've got to have a new thing, a Middle Eastern country to back all of us.

00:03:34.380 Yeah. And then she also totally just lied in the newsletter saying that you didn't credit Whitney Webb. I mean, you fell over yourself to credit her everywhere, even on X, when Whitney Webb said you got it wrong, crediting her on Joe Rogan.

00:03:47.820 And you did this long thread saying everyone should buy her book. And this is where I learned so much. And she's done so much research.

00:03:53.560 And I'm going, what actually was the purpose of this newsletter other than to destroy relationships, go after allies or because somebody was explicitly asking you in the background to do it. But what ensued, I think, on Instagram after was very real housewives.

00:04:08.740 And I just did not see it coming for her to be so vitriolic towards what should have just been political banter and trying to understand what was happening.

00:04:18.160 But then there was another layer of it where you and I have discussed this now off camera.

00:04:24.160 It is a totally dishonest for her to be telling people right now that or to be pretending like she's this ally to RFK.

00:04:30.600 She has said a lot of things about RFK and blackmail and the things that she knows about his relationships.

00:04:40.340 And I know we're both trying to be careful not to put out too much, but it's quite serious.

00:04:45.900 Yeah.

00:04:46.400 And it wasn't just coming from her.

00:04:47.360 And it's coming from all directions. And so it was during that, watching your video, and then I paused and went to Emily Hagan's Instagram feed.

00:04:55.300 And so your video had just dropped an hour or two ago. And that had inspired people that I knew in my network that had been in Maha, that had been in MAGA, people that have a decade plus in this industry to reach out to me and be like, I know more about the situation.

00:05:10.340 This is what happened. And some of them were about things that House and Habit, that Jessica Reed Krause had said during the campaign to them while drinking, things like that, that like it is hearsay.

00:05:19.180 But it's also like from very reliable people of direct interactions with her saying things that you should never be saying out loud about anyone unless you want to spread horrible information about them.

00:05:31.580 And so I'm trying very hard not to spread room because a lot of his rumors of accusations of that person's a plant or that person slept with that person or that person's doing that thing.

00:05:40.960 And it's like, I don't think that we need to be spreading rumors about specifics about people because unless you have smoking guns, that is extremely complicated to unpack.

00:05:49.920 But the totality of the evidence from people like from everyone from like Maha moms to people in the MAGA campaign to people that were on Kennedy's direct campaign around him stuff about everyone involved and everyone has their own stories and their own theories.

00:06:06.540 And it's not clear which theories are exactly right, but you start to get a sense of what the picture probably is.

00:06:14.940 And the thing that I keep coming back to is that it would be, and you did a great job of this on your show the other day, is that it would be weirder for there not to be campaigns targeting Bobby than for there to be something targeting Bobby.

00:06:26.660 You would be a fool to think that there are not black male operations targeting him and trying to get control of him as they have done to every Kennedy in the history of Kennedys.

00:06:35.420 So the totality of the evidence that there is some layer of control, which is not a new thought, that's not some breaking news.

00:06:44.020 It's the breaking news was that the greatest unforced error in the history of like, I mean, I'm being facetious, but like House and Habits unforced error here is out of control.

00:06:54.160 Like, A, you didn't need to start this drama.

00:06:56.300 B, you didn't need to keep it going.

00:06:57.880 And then C, you didn't need to, like, do every single thing she's done since then has just felt more and more like we're not, she's not being honest about what her real role is here.

00:07:07.520 Right.

00:07:07.740 And I, like, I don't know, I was hoping she would just come forth and say, I was drunk last night and it was stupid, but she just keeps going.

00:07:14.620 So I don't think we can just blame it on the alcohol.

00:07:17.300 You know what I mean?

00:07:17.720 Although she started blaming other people for their alcohol consumption.

00:07:19.940 Which is, was very vitriolic, except what she was doing to Denise was wrong and I pointed that out to her.

00:07:25.180 But I do want to make sure people understand because you can go a thousand different ways.

00:07:28.720 You can go Real Housewives, you can go fight, you know, with the fights between.

00:07:31.300 None of that really matters other than to state that there is very serious allegations about RFK Jr.

00:07:36.360 And the emails that we have received, and I'm just like you where I want to be very careful because you don't want to just be putting out things that don't have any heavy consequence.

00:07:44.860 Because then you're actually hurting him and we all believe in this, like, make America healthy again campaign.

00:07:50.900 Exactly.

00:07:52.060 But also no one willingly hangs out with Rabbi Shmuley.

00:07:55.960 And I think that that is something that the entire world can agree on.

00:07:59.760 And the allegations, I'm getting emails from people that worked with him at Children's Health Defense, which was the big eye opener for me.

00:08:06.960 I absolutely love that organization that he ran and it became the reason that I didn't vaccinate my children.

00:08:11.820 But the allegations are all the same.

00:08:13.380 So what came from Jessica Reed Krause's mouth about what he's got in the closet is the same as what's coming from people that work with him on Children's Health Defense, the same as people who were a major part of this iteration of the MAGA movement.

00:08:26.420 And I am concerned that he is.

00:08:28.740 I actually believe he's compromised.

00:08:30.200 I'll just come right out and say that.

00:08:31.640 And I'm not saying that as a because I dislike him.

00:08:34.020 I'm saying that because I dislike politics.

00:08:36.280 And I just have to be honest with people that he is going to be limited in what he can do because there is a lot of sexual blackmail there.

00:08:44.920 Yeah.

00:08:45.080 And the thing I don't know if you've seen Brett Weinstein's recent episodes, but he's been doing a couple of long podcasts, two hours plus lately.

00:08:52.820 Digging into one in particular a couple of days ago was a really lucid look at the different layers of what blackmail can actually be.

00:09:00.320 I think a lot of Americans are just now starting to conceptualize a blackmail in the last five years.

00:09:05.060 And a lot of Americans still think of blackmail as just Jeffrey Epstein or nothing.

00:09:09.600 And that is not the nature of this thing.

00:09:11.960 And Brett pointed out very astutely that a lot of blackmail in the political arena actually appears as friendship, probably.

00:09:18.840 As in, if you're a wild partier back in your day or you have sexual proclivities or whatever it is and you do something stupid and your friend comes to you and is like, dude, what did you do?

00:09:28.060 That's a huge mistake. We shouldn't have done that. Like, look, I'll help you cover that up.

00:09:32.140 I'll help take care of this and make sure I'll protect you from this and make sure it never affects your campaign.

00:09:36.700 You just keep doing you and I've got your back. Right.

00:09:39.400 And that is like, oh, thank gosh, I have such a good friend. Feels so good to have such a good friend.

00:09:45.060 And then, you know, three months later, that friend comes to you and is like, hey, listen, I really think that we shouldn't hire this person.

00:09:51.080 Like it wouldn't be a good move. And you say, well, I'd like them.

00:09:53.820 And it's like, yeah, we shouldn't hire them.

00:09:56.040 And we have a discussion about it and then they leave the room and then you think, huh.

00:10:01.360 That person, I can't go against that person.

00:10:03.960 That person is my closest confidant and they know things about me that no one else does.

00:10:07.900 How could I? I guess I shouldn't hire that person. Right.

00:10:11.180 And so there's so and that's just one example.

00:10:13.020 There's so many layers of how blackmail can appear in lots of different ways.

00:10:16.660 And I personally I think that Bobby does have a strong soul and he does have that Kennedy mindset of like of his lineage and what he stands for.

00:10:25.880 And so I doubt he would be able to be blackmailed in an overt like do this or else way or at least not at first.

00:10:32.760 But at first, maybe the blackmail is small.

00:10:34.820 Maybe it's just simple things.

00:10:35.900 And you never know what kind of leverages people get over politicians.

00:10:39.460 And eventually you wind up with Rabbi Shmuley hanging out with you and declaring anti-Semitism the greatest health crisis in America today or whatever it is.

00:10:50.520 Absurd. And this kind of really gets right to the crux of everything that's happening, which is you're seeing actually the left and the right unite on this one topic of recognizing that it's really wrong what's happening in Palestine.

00:11:06.000 And this is such, to me, just a humanitarian issue, humanitarian approach.

00:11:10.840 And they're trying to win this issue with smears.

00:11:14.060 And it's crazy.

00:11:15.300 And you're a perfect example of that.

00:11:17.060 So you've really had, I would say, your come up.

00:11:20.580 I love their narrative that he came out of nowhere.

00:11:22.920 He must be funded.

00:11:23.880 No, actually, he's been on TikTok for quite some time going through grocery aisles.

00:11:26.960 I know that some older people were not on TikTok and I'm kind of generation Instagram is where it stopped.

00:11:31.520 But when I finally got on TikTok and you were a big deal on TikTok, blew up on TikTok, just going through the grocery aisle, grocery aisle, talking about who owns what.

00:11:41.960 And then when the Israel-Palestine thing happened, you were very clear about your position on this.

00:11:47.360 And obviously, when Elon Musk and you got into that back forth, things hit another level because you were so sensible about speaking about why it is that Americans would not feel allegiance to Israel, which is our right.

00:11:58.700 It is so weird that they think that they're going to try to psychologically convince us that we have no right to not support a foreign nation by calling everybody anti-Semitic.

00:12:07.200 And then passing censorship laws.

00:12:09.000 And then, yeah, we're just going to pass censorship laws.

00:12:11.100 350 million of you are just not going to be able to say anything bad about Israel.

00:12:15.640 All you people that think that Jews control the world, you know what we'll do?

00:12:18.800 We'll all pass laws that say you can't say that.

00:12:21.740 That'll teach them.

00:12:23.340 Like, clearly, these people have never taught young kids.

00:12:25.560 When you teach young kids, you learn that you can't tell young kids, like, you can't do that double think with young people these days.

00:12:31.480 They see right through it.

00:12:32.420 And it only enhances their conviction and actually creates more real anti-Semitism as well as just, you know, basic noticing of facts.

00:12:39.300 There is that noticing of facts that's happening.

00:12:41.660 I think this book here has done more damage than anything that you or I could ever say.

00:12:47.540 And I actually wanted to bring up this book, Chaos, because they are totally, Chaos, but just to be clear for you guys that are watching us at home, it was a CIA operation.

00:12:58.220 And they're doing it right now.

00:13:00.340 So if you're wondering why all of these random accounts are suddenly saying that I'm funded by Qatar, I absolutely am not funded by Qatar.

00:13:07.240 I'd like to be, by the way, Qatar, if you're watching, like, I'm not opposed to reading some ads for you.

00:13:12.240 Like, it's totally fine because everybody else works with you, including Bibi Netanyahu, who's going through a Qatar trial right now, which is the rich irony of all of this.

00:13:20.520 You're not funded by Qatar.

00:13:21.940 No, I'm not funded by anyone.

00:13:23.100 I'm poor.

00:13:23.820 So this is amazing.

00:13:24.900 So I was reading this because, you know, I do a book club here.

00:13:27.760 The Chaos was born out of LBJ.

00:13:29.880 The Chaos CIA program was born out of LBJ.

00:13:32.160 So JFK gets shot.

00:13:34.040 LBJ becomes president of the United States and just reversed his course on everything that JFK was doing in terms of his foreign policy with Israel.

00:13:42.020 And he's getting them weapons.

00:13:43.860 He's getting them money.

00:13:45.120 He's and he wants war, war, war, war, war.

00:13:47.160 So we're right back in that circumstance where it's like war, war, war, war, war.

00:13:50.560 We're talking about war with Iran.

00:13:52.200 And then there were these natural student protests that were happening because people were against the Vietnam War.

00:13:57.780 And LBJ didn't believe that these could be organic protests.

00:14:00.640 He believed that if they needed to cede the public with this idea that these protests were actually a foreign infiltration.

00:14:08.020 And so they began this Operation Chaos to discredit people by pretending that they were foreign operators.

00:14:15.600 And that's exactly what they're doing to me, you and Tucker right now.

00:14:19.660 And it's just amazing.

00:14:20.500 And I'm like, guys, this is like you don't just randomly just say Candace is funded by Qatar.

00:14:25.440 Ian's funded by Qatar.

00:14:26.560 They're all saying the same talking point, but while ignoring Bibi Netanyahu's trial for funding Qatar to give money to Hamas, like, which is incredible.

00:14:34.540 Which is so damning in so many ways.

00:14:37.080 And it's not to mention that.

00:14:38.140 So chaos is the one where they're like surveilling and targeting and smearing and libeling these protesters.

00:14:42.540 But that's overlapped over COINTELPRO, which was instated by J. Edgar Hoover more so, although COINTELPRO tactics are universal.

00:14:50.320 But that's actually causing dissidents to fight each other, causing like spreading rumors about Black Panthers sleeping with each other's wives, spreading salacious details that may or may not be true about Martin Luther King or other things.

00:15:01.600 And to be clear, a lot of the rumors about Martin Luther King were probably somewhat true, but just sowing division amongst the ranks and getting people to fight each other.

00:15:10.500 And that was all enacted by J. Edgar Hoover, who was being blackmailed by the Jewish mob for his sexual perversions at the time.

00:15:16.840 And so it's such a funny and tragic rewrite of like the exact same history is rhyming all over again in so many ways.

00:15:24.300 The Bible says there's nothing new under the sun.

00:15:25.940 And I feel like we are right back in the 60s.

00:15:28.000 And I want people to recognize that because I got a chill down my spine reading about the Black Panthers and COINTELPRO and recognizing that they infiltrated these groups because their biggest fear, and this was the entire thing behind the Charles Manson lie and pretending it was a race war that he wanted, was they were very fearful of black nationalists and white liberals coming together.

00:15:51.100 And I was sitting here going, oh, my gosh, I have these beliefs like they're going through Black Panthers beliefs in this in this book.

00:15:57.480 And they're like, you know, they believed in the Second Amendment that you should defend yourself.

00:16:00.840 They didn't trust the government.

00:16:02.580 They believed in like they needed to keep like their families together.

00:16:05.720 And they feared they freaked out when people on the left began supporting them.

00:16:11.640 They didn't want union.

00:16:12.700 So they wanted to sow racial discord.

00:16:14.680 And I think about why so many liberals hated me because they thought I was like a self-hating black person.

00:16:19.640 And I'm going, guys, guys, read this book.

00:16:22.140 Read this book.

00:16:22.780 Like the CIA is doing this all over again, trying to discredit and trying to sow discord.

00:16:28.840 And we really need to, like, stay together right now.

00:16:30.620 A hundred percent.

00:16:31.320 And it actually ties into another.

00:16:33.000 The thing that initially brought us together in content was Diddy, is that once they saw how powerful these black movements could be, because black people have had such a bad, like, go of it politically in those earlier days, especially.

00:16:45.560 And then through the civil rights movement, they saw, oh, my goodness, these people can really organize.

00:16:49.320 These people can really, like, project quality arguments and make a difference.

00:16:53.160 We need to figure out.

00:16:54.480 And I'm, you know, speculating a little bit as to the connections from A to B.

00:16:58.120 But you wind up with black culture being propped up by a whole bunch of blackmailers and really corrupt celebrities that are pulling strings in order to promote the most degenerate artists you could ever promote, in order to promote culture that is a direct pipeline to prison, which is basically used as slave labor today by all the biggest corporations like Starbucks, McDonald's, Verizon.

00:17:17.100 Like, you're calling your Verizon sales rep.

00:17:19.860 And some of those calls are going into prisons to people that are getting paid, like, cents per hour.

00:17:23.840 And so the way that the black community has been undermined since the sort of 80s and 90s through rap music is a big part of it is so tragic.

00:17:36.020 And I think that the seeds are sowed in that time period of the Black Panthers being such a threat, not a physical violent threat in most cases, but rather a political threat.

00:17:46.380 Yeah, and that's really funny because I was reading a passage in the book club yesterday or the day before, and it speaks about how part of this program they infiltrated the Black Panthers and had a guy who got really close with the guy at the top.

00:17:59.620 I think his name was Freddie, one of the guys at the top.

00:18:01.840 And for months, Freddie basically said they're not doing anything illegal, right?

00:18:05.920 And they're not doing anything illegal.

00:18:07.120 They're not doing anything illegal.

00:18:07.820 And they didn't care.

00:18:08.580 And one night they had him drug him.

00:18:10.160 And the FBI raided and shot him in the back of the head and killed him just because he had a following.

00:18:15.620 And this is what they were worried about with Martin Luther King.

00:18:18.160 And so the biggest fear that they have is nationalism, true nationalism, like true America first.

00:18:23.280 We don't want to be involved in your war.

00:18:24.880 We don't care about what's happening in Vietnam.

00:18:26.520 We don't care how close you are to Israel, LBJ, and the unity that could come between white people and black people.

00:18:34.140 And so I really recommend people that are listening to this to read this book so that you have an understanding it will make you or force you to reexamine your relationship with the media when they're kind of using these tactics against people that are clearly not being funded by foreign nations.

00:18:48.940 Like they're just going to accuse us of exactly what it is that they're doing, which is committing themselves to a foreign nation.

00:18:55.080 And I do want to circle back because of that to the point about RFK, because I will say, I kind of think, and this could just be me, and this is going to make people upset.

00:19:05.160 But when I examine everything that I know about RFK juniors, about RFK's death, JFK's death, the truth behind those deaths, I do think he's a coward.

00:19:14.980 I do think there is no way you would have me wrapped in an Israeli flag running around with Rabbi Shmuley with the lingering questions and the facts that we have about what happened with these two particular murders.

00:19:28.600 And I just say that for me, like I would have to die on my feet.

00:19:32.140 Like I couldn't do it.

00:19:33.160 Yeah, I do.

00:19:34.700 I always try to remind myself that there's factors I don't know at play.

00:19:38.860 There's factors that I might not understand.

00:19:40.740 But at the same time, you are right that what how grievous would those factors have to be for them to legitimize this sort of an action from RFK Jr.

00:19:51.440 based upon what we know, like what he knows about Sirhan Sirhan.

00:19:54.160 And like that's his dad that Sirhan Sirhan allegedly killed.

00:19:57.180 Right.

00:19:57.360 And you did a great piece on that the other day.

00:19:58.840 And it is tragic that I assume my presumption is that there's a compromise being made in his mind of I can put this issue to the side if it allows me to tackle this issue being like the vaccines and the health and all that.

00:20:14.760 But then the problem is that I put out that video that blew the world up and I'm getting contacted by like Maha moms that have been involved in the movement for 10 years and by other people that were in the campaign.

00:20:24.760 And one of the main like rumor mill concerns is that the vaccine stuff seems to not be being taken seriously.

00:20:34.120 It seems like we are diverting to food over and over and over, which is good.

00:20:38.120 And that's great.

00:20:38.880 And I'm happy we're getting food dye out of our food.

00:20:41.360 But let's be real.

00:20:42.140 Millions of people were harmed and killed by this bioweapon that we know now was engineered by our government and our deep state and then was leaked out of a lab that we were running.

00:20:54.020 And then the vaccines were also already like funded and helped make like the CIA helped make the mRNA technology that was used in those vaccines.

00:21:02.160 And then the liability shields, like the amount of evidence that is being compiled as to the multi-billion dollar profit and the multi-million dollar death toll of this scam.

00:21:13.480 And we're in that window right now where if they get away with it, like I said, it's like a post-2008 feeling to me, where if we let them get away with it for enough years, no one's going to ever be held accountable.

00:21:22.400 And they're going to just go free with their billion dollar paychecks and no one held accountable.

00:21:27.720 And I can't help but wonder if the Maha movement has been infiltrated in some way in order to make compromises that you can do this, but not this.

00:21:36.220 You can get this done, but it's just politics.

00:21:37.740 This is just how it works.

00:21:39.340 And I guess we just can't whoopsies.

00:21:41.200 I guess the vaccine thing is too controversial to do now.

00:21:44.220 Which is crazy.

00:21:44.860 Like this is the entire reason that people got behind him was to deal with this, to give parents choice when it comes to vaccines.

00:21:50.440 Like to say, no, actually, no, you can't compel children and babies to get vaccines in order for them to be able to go to school and things of that nature.

00:21:57.720 And all of this taking, it seems to me, a backseat.

00:22:00.480 And I would say, by the way, as an extension of that, also the MAGA movement.

00:22:03.460 It sort of feels like they're doing the bare minimum for Americans and what we actually put them in office for.

00:22:10.300 And then doing the absolute maximum for like Bibi Netanyahu's entire agenda while being like, well, look, we did at least Tom Homan did get out 2,000 criminals in the border.

00:22:21.600 We've stopped it.

00:22:22.780 And we've asked you for a lot more.

00:22:24.500 The mandate was a lot more.

00:22:25.660 And you seem to have, in just three months, done so much for Israel.

00:22:30.640 You know what I mean?

00:22:31.980 If we could dedicate that same energy to what you promised everyone that you were going to do for Americans, that would be great.

00:22:37.760 But once again, we're left feeling like this is just a slave colony.

00:22:41.540 And the fact that the movement is called America First originally, and that is a stroke of genius because it is so hard.

00:22:49.700 They're trying their best, but it's so hard to make what they're doing look America First.

00:22:54.460 And they're trying to do all these backwards arguments.

00:22:56.400 Like, how is passing speech laws that, like, in some cases criminalize or at the very least, you know, kick you out of school, pull your federal funding if you criticize Israel?

00:23:07.880 There are no laws about racism in America.

00:23:10.780 There's no—if you Google right now, there is no recognized definition of racism by our government.

00:23:15.580 But if you Google America's official definition of anti-Semitism, there's a whole page on the State Department's website about anti-Semitism.

00:23:22.860 And so how do you call this America First when we are explicitly going against our First Amendment of our Constitution on behalf of a different nation?

00:23:32.280 And inside of those guidelines, they specifically say that saying that people—Jewish people would have more allegiance to Israel than to America because they're Jewish, that's anti-Semitic to say, while out of their mouths they're saying, we need to do these things for Israel or, like, I am a Jew first above all else.

00:23:50.500 Things like that that are like, what are we—how are we going along with this cognitive dissonance?

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00:25:59.880 Do you think that there will be a moment where we are seeing Americans arrested?

00:26:05.880 Because I'm so shocked by the fact that they're arresting students

00:26:09.540 that have green cards and getting them out of, you know, kicking them out of the country.

00:26:14.040 And I'm just going, was I alive for BLM when the Trump administration in 2016

00:26:19.560 took the approach that this was really wrong and radical and leftist,

00:26:22.180 when people were demanding speech laws and hate speech laws for BLM,

00:26:25.980 and we were talking about how wrong that was.

00:26:27.920 And now they've completely done a 180.

00:26:29.980 This administration's done a 180.

00:26:31.160 And they're like, but OK, but for the special category of Israel,

00:26:34.640 we can, all of this is actually fine.

00:26:36.400 Like, woke is fine when it comes to Israel.

00:26:38.540 Do you think there will come a time?

00:26:40.860 Because they do have these laws.

00:26:42.060 Like, if I go down to Florida, do you think, like,

00:26:44.200 Ron DeSantis is going to have me arrested if I criticize Israel?

00:26:47.260 I don't know about, I don't know how fast it'll happen,

00:26:49.620 but in Europe, it's already happening.

00:26:52.820 And they, if you notice the language, the IHRA definition,

00:26:56.540 they've always been very intentional to say a non-legally binding definition,

00:27:01.560 which to me is a direct setup for where they're going.

00:27:04.480 And this is something that people, like, to their credit,

00:27:07.120 people like Whitney Webb have been talking about for quite some time,

00:27:09.980 that the surveillance state is vastly,

00:27:13.800 like, the vast majority of the surveillance state

00:27:15.360 is built on Israeli technology by Israeli tech firms.

00:27:18.140 And Palantir is a great example.

00:27:19.860 Palantir funded J.D. Vance to the nines.

00:27:22.660 J.D. Vance is, like, his whole inspiration for politics

00:27:25.400 came from the Palantir and Peter Thiel space.

00:27:30.100 And so those companies, they have massive AI-led databases

00:27:36.280 that are just surveillance maximal.

00:27:38.460 And they have surveillance on our phones,

00:27:39.920 they have surveillance in our schools,

00:27:41.100 they have surveillance in our EMS response systems.

00:27:44.060 And those databases are cataloging everything that we're doing.

00:27:47.600 And we don't really have a lot of transparency

00:27:49.220 on what they're cataloging.

00:27:50.380 But when I'm looking at the policies,

00:27:52.000 and I'm looking at where Europe has gone with said policies,

00:27:54.640 and I'm looking at the people that are

00:27:56.480 behind the policies in America,

00:27:59.160 to me, it looks like a direct walk

00:28:01.000 from you are anti-Semitic,

00:28:03.140 to you support terrorists,

00:28:04.460 to you're a domestic terrorist.

00:28:06.260 Now we have a reason to come after you.

00:28:08.580 And I don't think that America will stand for it.

00:28:10.880 I think that Americans are wise.

00:28:12.340 And I think that we were raised on a culture of liberty

00:28:14.240 and freedom and freedom of speech.

00:28:15.780 And I think that they are trying to do a thing

00:28:17.460 that is impossible to do.

00:28:18.720 But it's only impossible to do

00:28:20.060 because of people like you,

00:28:21.380 because of people like Tucker,

00:28:22.540 because of people in the media.

00:28:23.780 I mean, even people like Joe Rogan,

00:28:24.880 who gets called controlled opposition all the time,

00:28:26.800 like he chose to have the conversation he had with me.

00:28:29.080 He chose to have conversations

00:28:30.200 with people about vaccines.

00:28:31.740 Like people will only go so far.

00:28:34.220 And we have this media environment now

00:28:35.960 where people that are wise and capable

00:28:37.960 have enough reach to speak out

00:28:40.680 and to counter narrative.

00:28:42.700 And if we didn't,

00:28:44.020 I would think that we'd already be there.

00:28:45.760 But I think they're going to try their hardest

00:28:47.180 because it is an existential threat

00:28:48.900 to the survival of the state of Israel,

00:28:50.940 which is an existential threat to all Jews,

00:28:53.440 is how a lot of people see it.

00:28:54.880 Even though that is anti-Semitic to say

00:28:56.680 based upon their new speech laws.

00:28:58.540 Right.

00:28:58.840 That's, it's just absolutely incredible

00:29:00.520 to see this happening.

00:29:01.840 And I came up in politics with so many people

00:29:04.620 who were fighting this BLM stuff,

00:29:06.280 fighting these laws.

00:29:07.360 And I just feel like they've become massive hypocrites

00:29:09.620 because all they want is access to power.

00:29:11.920 And they're willing to pretend

00:29:13.220 like they have a total blind spot on this issue

00:29:15.500 and just be consistent.

00:29:17.160 If people have a right to say what they want to say

00:29:20.360 about any group of people,

00:29:21.600 if they want to.

00:29:22.200 And the idea that there needs to be

00:29:23.560 some special laws on the book

00:29:24.740 that are now creeping into the territory

00:29:26.300 of saying that your religion is anti-Semitic.

00:29:29.960 Oh, it's directly in the guidelines.

00:29:32.120 The Jordan Peterson teaming up with the ADL

00:29:35.060 to produce a report

00:29:36.980 that didn't even spell psychology right,

00:29:38.740 which was a tremendous embarrassment

00:29:40.460 for that video to have gone out.

00:29:41.940 Oh, how the Peterson star has fallen.

00:29:43.880 I mean, that's been something to see.

00:29:46.200 And it's sad because there's no,

00:29:48.040 I had no hatred at all when he wrote that.

00:29:52.460 I don't know if we have that.

00:29:53.780 He helped red pill me in the first place.

00:29:55.400 He helped get me thinking more critically

00:29:56.880 about my beliefs when I was a leftist.

00:29:58.740 And it was BLM that red pilled me

00:30:00.680 because I was living in Bellingham,

00:30:02.540 which is like micro Seattle.

00:30:04.400 And my roommates were going out

00:30:06.000 to like multi-thousand person protests in Seattle

00:30:07.920 and then coming back and being mass Nazis.

00:30:10.020 And I was like, what is going on, guys?

00:30:11.940 This doesn't make sense.

00:30:13.140 And I was watching the live streams

00:30:14.280 of what was actually happening in Seattle

00:30:16.180 and the chop in the chas, like pallets of bricks,

00:30:18.420 all sorts of stuff.

00:30:19.500 And I think BLM is a good example

00:30:20.680 of another movement that probably

00:30:22.320 right from the very start was infiltrated

00:30:24.300 by these people that run COINTELPRO

00:30:26.760 and run these operations.

00:30:28.000 And a lot of the black people

00:30:29.300 that were involved in that, I think,

00:30:30.260 had legitimate perspectives

00:30:31.220 and legitimate grievances

00:30:32.200 that would have gone about it

00:30:33.500 a much different way

00:30:34.280 had they been the ones

00:30:35.260 solely in control of the movement.

00:30:36.660 But when you get your fangs

00:30:38.220 in one of these movements early on,

00:30:40.020 you can, and the CIA has been studying this stuff

00:30:42.760 since the 60s and before,

00:30:44.380 of how do you direct narratives

00:30:46.880 to get people to follow things like cults,

00:30:49.660 to get people to sort of be brainwashed by ideas,

00:30:52.480 not just through hypnosis and drugs,

00:30:54.620 because that's how you get people

00:30:56.720 doing your job for you,

00:30:58.560 going on TV,

00:30:59.400 even though you're not an operative,

00:31:00.860 you're on TV vehemently defending Israel at all costs

00:31:04.660 or vehemently defending transgenderism at all costs,

00:31:07.760 even though your arguments make zero sense

00:31:10.080 and even like the slightest bit of conversation

00:31:12.660 exposes what's going on here.

00:31:14.940 If you control enough of the media

00:31:16.560 and enough of the airwaves

00:31:17.520 and you have enough people brainwashed

00:31:18.840 to do this job for you,

00:31:20.300 you can really take a movement like BLM

00:31:22.460 right from the start

00:31:23.460 and push it exactly where you want to go.

00:31:26.120 And it's just so ironic

00:31:27.580 to examine this happening

00:31:29.260 under a Trump administration.

00:31:31.060 When Trump ran,

00:31:33.660 the entire thing was

00:31:34.880 they kept saying he was Adolf Hitler.

00:31:37.020 They kept saying he was anti-Semitic.

00:31:39.820 It wasn't true.

00:31:41.320 They looked through every possible venue

00:31:43.340 to get this man dismissed

00:31:45.360 because, you know,

00:31:46.100 he can't run for president.

00:31:47.120 He's this, he's that.

00:31:48.260 And now he's allowing his administration

00:31:50.120 to put into place laws

00:31:52.360 to condemn the very people

00:31:54.580 that got him into the office

00:31:55.500 on behalf of the people

00:31:56.480 who tried to keep him out.

00:31:57.340 Well, Miriam Adelson

00:31:58.320 is going to get her money's worth.

00:31:59.860 That's for dang sure.

00:32:01.260 Right.

00:32:01.440 And so I just,

00:32:02.120 I always think back

00:32:03.540 to one of the most awesome moments

00:32:05.160 in political history,

00:32:05.940 which was Trump on stage

00:32:07.640 in the first debate rounds

00:32:08.900 in the primaries in 2015,

00:32:11.420 probably with Jeb Bush on stage.

00:32:13.420 And Trump says,

00:32:14.460 those are all their donors

00:32:15.720 in the audience.

00:32:16.540 And I couldn't get any

00:32:17.280 because it's only seats for donors

00:32:18.420 and I don't want your money.

00:32:19.460 I don't need your money.

00:32:20.520 And it was such a slap in the face moment.

00:32:23.320 And that was a,

00:32:24.260 maybe it was the same Trump.

00:32:25.340 Maybe it was all an act.

00:32:26.160 I don't know.

00:32:27.000 But that if like that energy

00:32:28.580 is long gone.

00:32:29.640 It's gone.

00:32:30.180 And, and I, I mean,

00:32:31.440 I'm optimistic about some of the things

00:32:33.100 that are being done right now,

00:32:34.180 but a lot of people

00:32:34.940 are right on the money

00:32:35.760 that, that Biden,

00:32:38.120 whoever was behind Biden

00:32:39.480 crashed so much,

00:32:40.820 so intentionally,

00:32:41.560 so obviously

00:32:42.400 that it's hard not to wonder

00:32:44.700 if that wasn't an intentional setup

00:32:46.320 to lay the groundwork

00:32:47.180 for Trump to get a whole bunch

00:32:48.140 of easy wins.

00:32:49.040 Right.

00:32:49.800 Because now Trump is coming in

00:32:51.180 and Elon and him

00:32:52.740 are doing all these easy wins

00:32:54.360 that yes,

00:32:54.960 they are good at face value.

00:32:56.380 And a lot of them

00:32:57.080 are critical to have done,

00:32:58.640 but they aren't even moving us

00:33:00.240 back past the baseline

00:33:01.380 in some instances.

00:33:02.120 And in some instances,

00:33:03.060 they're actually creating

00:33:04.160 a major void where,

00:33:06.060 oh, we don't need

00:33:07.220 all these bureaucrats

00:33:08.000 to work this job.

00:33:08.740 We should replace them with AI.

00:33:10.280 Like we don't need

00:33:10.900 all these people

00:33:11.380 to do these jobs.

00:33:12.160 We got technology

00:33:12.940 that can take this over.

00:33:13.820 And this is where

00:33:14.340 the people on the internet

00:33:15.500 that have been sort of ostracized

00:33:16.940 for a long time

00:33:17.540 talking about technocracy

00:33:18.500 and about how we're walking

00:33:20.000 closer and closer

00:33:20.760 to this digital surveillance state.

00:33:22.360 It wasn't,

00:33:23.040 it's never been a popular take

00:33:24.060 because it goes against both parties,

00:33:25.440 but they've been

00:33:26.860 sounding the alarm on Trump

00:33:27.820 for a long time.

00:33:29.020 And I'm not ready to say

00:33:30.600 that they're necessarily right,

00:33:32.220 but I am ready to say

00:33:33.100 that everyone should be

00:33:34.040 paying attention to this angle.

00:33:35.140 I think it's crazy.

00:33:36.080 I mean,

00:33:36.240 it's totally crazy

00:33:37.240 for me to see the MAGA movement,

00:33:38.700 which I thought

00:33:40.400 was based on

00:33:41.640 wanting to go back

00:33:43.120 to how America was,

00:33:44.940 Christian beliefs,

00:33:45.660 hard work.

00:33:46.380 And, you know,

00:33:47.420 now we have a person

00:33:48.800 who's effectively living

00:33:50.460 at the White House

00:33:51.540 who has been very explicit

00:33:53.020 in what he believes in.

00:33:54.080 Like he wants data.

00:33:55.680 Okay?

00:33:56.240 He is,

00:33:56.740 like he's not in there

00:33:57.620 because he's,

00:33:58.520 and everyone's,

00:33:59.320 oh, you needed him for Doge.

00:34:00.440 What are you talking about?

00:34:01.060 You needed an accountant

00:34:01.780 to accomplish Doge.

00:34:02.900 This is so weird.

00:34:03.920 And I think that the right,

00:34:05.680 our issue is that

00:34:06.540 we glorify these technocrats

00:34:08.140 in the same way

00:34:08.560 that the left glorifies celebrities.

00:34:10.920 It's like they're mesmerized

00:34:12.520 by Elon Musk's money.

00:34:13.940 They're mesmerized

00:34:15.000 by his success

00:34:15.780 in the same way

00:34:16.440 that a leftist

00:34:17.080 might have been mesmerized

00:34:18.100 by Taylor Swift's success

00:34:19.880 and therefore willing

00:34:20.980 to listen to her political things.

00:34:22.440 He's never been fleshed out.

00:34:23.760 There's never been

00:34:24.320 a tough interview

00:34:24.960 asking Elon Musk

00:34:25.840 about how you're going

00:34:26.820 to shrink

00:34:27.160 the very same government

00:34:28.080 that you take money from,

00:34:29.040 that all of your businesses

00:34:29.800 rely upon,

00:34:30.560 that you have contracts with,

00:34:32.200 you know,

00:34:32.500 and that's a very important

00:34:33.680 question to ask him.

00:34:34.700 You don't need to,

00:34:35.100 it doesn't need to be hostile,

00:34:36.160 but what do you believe in?

00:34:37.180 It's not family, right?

00:34:38.700 So if we're talking about

00:34:39.540 making America great again,

00:34:40.900 we're talking about

00:34:41.840 when we are on the basis

00:34:43.380 of when we were based

00:34:45.040 on our families

00:34:46.020 and people were

00:34:46.860 not being replaced

00:34:47.960 by AI robots

00:34:49.000 and not aspirationally

00:34:50.380 wanting everyone

00:34:51.160 to drive a Tesla

00:34:52.260 or an electric car.

00:34:53.260 I don't want an electric car.

00:34:53.940 I want a gas guzzler forever

00:34:55.020 because I know

00:34:56.060 what comes with that

00:34:57.120 is more control.

00:34:58.300 Like, I don't want...

00:34:58.740 They can't shut your car off

00:34:59.700 or tell you how far

00:35:00.580 you can drive

00:35:01.180 based on your social credit score.

00:35:02.600 Right.

00:35:03.000 And I feel like

00:35:03.940 Elon Musk

00:35:04.940 needs to clarify

00:35:06.520 what he believes

00:35:07.780 on those issues

00:35:08.700 because I don't want

00:35:09.740 to become China

00:35:10.480 and I don't know

00:35:12.260 that Elon Musk

00:35:13.420 doesn't want to become China

00:35:14.580 because that would enrich him

00:35:15.580 and I don't...

00:35:16.420 And when people

00:35:17.180 instantly defend him,

00:35:18.300 I'm going,

00:35:19.520 Elon Musk was not MAGA

00:35:20.660 yesterday

00:35:21.160 and now all of a sudden

00:35:22.020 the MAGA can't question,

00:35:23.440 like original MAGA

00:35:24.080 can't even question him

00:35:25.320 because he's standing

00:35:26.420 next to Trump

00:35:27.160 and so I am...

00:35:28.580 I certainly am questioning

00:35:30.760 the circle of actors

00:35:32.260 that are around Trump

00:35:33.080 and I have never felt good

00:35:34.860 just on my

00:35:35.600 spiritual vibes

00:35:37.920 when it comes to Elon Musk.

00:35:39.140 I feel he's a part

00:35:39.940 of the Peter Thiel...

00:35:42.880 We're just going to get

00:35:44.020 all of these people

00:35:44.920 in line with AI

00:35:46.540 and it's going to be

00:35:47.460 a tech future

00:35:48.260 and we're going to

00:35:49.080 combine robots

00:35:50.160 robots with humanity

00:35:51.840 and that will be that

00:35:53.520 and we will do

00:35:54.140 the thinking for you.

00:35:55.020 That's the vibe I get

00:35:55.980 from these people.

00:35:56.360 And so there's...

00:35:57.580 I understand...

00:35:58.580 So coming from the left

00:35:59.420 has been really useful for me

00:36:00.340 because I understand

00:36:01.560 a lot of the arguments

00:36:02.320 on the other side.

00:36:03.160 This isn't really

00:36:03.640 a left-right thing

00:36:04.540 but I was taken in

00:36:06.440 for a long time

00:36:07.160 and I still sometimes...

00:36:08.040 I entertain the idea

00:36:08.820 that yeah,

00:36:09.860 technology is coming

00:36:11.160 regardless.

00:36:12.020 We will march on.

00:36:13.800 And you know,

00:36:15.120 you could have a horrible

00:36:15.800 person in charge

00:36:16.440 of that transformation

00:36:17.060 or you could have

00:36:17.560 a good person

00:36:18.100 in charge of that transformation.

00:36:19.240 Elon has done

00:36:19.840 an exceptional job

00:36:20.960 politically speaking

00:36:22.080 of branding himself

00:36:23.440 as the good technocrat.

00:36:25.520 As the technocrat

00:36:26.280 you can trust.

00:36:26.940 As the one that's

00:36:27.480 for free speech

00:36:28.180 at all costs

00:36:28.740 though he's not.

00:36:29.800 And the one that like

00:36:30.640 founded all his own companies

00:36:31.700 and he's amazing

00:36:32.300 but actually

00:36:32.940 he didn't actually

00:36:34.040 do the work

00:36:34.740 to found a lot

00:36:35.340 of those companies.

00:36:36.120 Like it's not exactly clear

00:36:37.520 how brilliant his mind

00:36:38.900 is in those companies

00:36:40.220 and the thing that actually

00:36:41.360 really started

00:36:41.820 to wake me up to it

00:36:42.420 ironically

00:36:42.760 is the video game scandal

00:36:44.100 that he had

00:36:44.680 where if you even realize

00:36:46.260 that Elon was faking

00:36:48.040 that he was the number

00:36:49.040 like top 10 video gamer

00:36:50.780 at the hardest video game

00:36:51.620 in the world.

00:36:52.060 I didn't know it was fake.

00:36:52.420 There's this whole scandal.

00:36:53.260 It's fake

00:36:53.640 and it's obviously fake

00:36:54.720 and people exposed it

00:36:55.680 at length online

00:36:57.040 that clearly he didn't know

00:36:58.900 what he was talking about.

00:36:59.480 He didn't know

00:36:59.800 how the items worked.

00:37:00.560 Wait, wait, slow this down

00:37:00.580 because people might not have.

00:37:01.580 I just recently heard

00:37:02.880 from someone on my team

00:37:03.580 about how he was

00:37:04.240 the number one gamer.

00:37:05.860 So slow this down.

00:37:06.840 In this exceptionally hard video game.

00:37:07.860 Okay.

00:37:07.980 The kind of video game

00:37:08.780 that and I'm not super familiar

00:37:10.220 with this video game

00:37:10.780 but I used to play

00:37:11.400 a lot of video games

00:37:12.080 and it's the kind of video game

00:37:13.340 that people will play

00:37:14.220 thousands of hours

00:37:15.340 just to be able to beat

00:37:16.600 the third boss

00:37:17.460 out of 30 or something.

00:37:18.840 I'm making numbers up

00:37:19.500 but it's like

00:37:19.880 an insanely hard video game

00:37:21.160 and so it's highly prestigious

00:37:22.760 and he came to

00:37:24.560 like he was in the top

00:37:25.520 of the leaderboards worldwide

00:37:27.120 and then this other video game

00:37:29.040 Diablo 4 I think it was.

00:37:30.660 Same thing.

00:37:31.360 Top of the leaderboards

00:37:32.340 but then he started

00:37:33.180 live streaming it

00:37:33.940 and people realized

00:37:34.600 that he didn't even know

00:37:35.380 basic things

00:37:36.120 like about how this item works

00:37:37.400 and about the strategy

00:37:38.300 of how you do this

00:37:38.960 like this movement thing

00:37:40.200 to get the

00:37:40.660 and it was became

00:37:41.700 everyone was like

00:37:42.220 wait a minute.

00:37:43.080 This is not a top video game

00:37:44.260 player playing this game

00:37:45.380 and then they dug in more

00:37:46.620 and it came out

00:37:47.660 that basically

00:37:48.140 the entire thing

00:37:48.780 was a fake

00:37:49.780 and the fact

00:37:51.240 that you would

00:37:52.620 construct some

00:37:53.840 fake characterization

00:37:54.920 of you as some

00:37:55.780 top video gamer

00:37:56.400 which obviously

00:37:56.920 you don't have the time

00:37:57.780 to be the top

00:37:58.560 video game player

00:37:59.160 of this multi-thousand hour

00:38:00.740 type of difficulty game

00:38:02.120 while you're running

00:38:03.220 six companies.

00:38:03.960 That's a ridiculous thing.

00:38:05.100 I wish you hadn't

00:38:05.760 told me this

00:38:06.140 because my

00:38:07.400 conspiracy theory

00:38:08.920 like where my brain

00:38:10.540 goes naturally with him

00:38:11.580 is that it's all

00:38:12.340 too impossible.

00:38:13.400 Like you can't be

00:38:14.220 running all of these

00:38:15.440 businesses

00:38:15.900 plus be the number

00:38:17.400 one gamer

00:38:17.940 giving thousands

00:38:18.660 of hours

00:38:19.200 to some random game

00:38:20.460 and then I read

00:38:21.360 this random

00:38:21.960 that was where I was

00:38:22.840 saying none of this

00:38:23.540 makes any sense

00:38:24.140 and like we're just

00:38:24.700 being told that he

00:38:25.480 does do all of this

00:38:26.260 stuff but what if

00:38:27.320 it's like actually

00:38:27.840 like no the government

00:38:28.680 created all of that

00:38:29.820 stuff and then they

00:38:30.880 just handed it to

00:38:31.360 Elon Musk to be the

00:38:31.980 face of it so that

00:38:32.860 people would be

00:38:33.580 just adoring him

00:38:35.100 and allow him to do

00:38:35.780 whatever it was

00:38:36.460 and allow him to get

00:38:37.040 in there as if

00:38:37.680 he's just like a

00:38:38.620 player working for

00:38:39.820 somebody else

00:38:40.340 and I didn't want to

00:38:41.240 lean into that

00:38:41.800 but I genuinely just go

00:38:43.740 there's not enough

00:38:44.700 hours in the day

00:38:45.560 for all the things

00:38:46.560 that we're supposed

00:38:46.960 to believe Elon Musk

00:38:47.660 was doing.

00:38:47.920 He was able to just

00:38:48.520 leave all of these

00:38:49.360 three big companies

00:38:50.140 while having baby

00:38:50.580 mama drama all over

00:38:51.940 the place.

00:38:52.240 Yes, all over the

00:38:52.760 place and then also

00:38:53.920 I just find him to be

00:38:54.960 quite volatile in terms

00:38:56.400 of his treatment of

00:38:57.220 people like even the

00:38:58.100 Ashley St.

00:38:58.800 Claire thing and I'm

00:38:59.940 going to lead

00:39:01.340 successful businesses

00:39:02.200 you can't be like

00:39:03.320 that.

00:39:04.020 You have to be able

00:39:05.760 to get along,

00:39:06.460 take a little bit of

00:39:06.980 criticism, right?

00:39:08.400 I mean I think Steve

00:39:09.920 Band hit the nail on the

00:39:10.560 head when he said

00:39:11.060 you can't take any

00:39:11.740 criticism and as

00:39:13.520 soon as someone

00:39:13.840 upsets him he's like

00:39:14.580 locking out your

00:39:15.140 accounts over HP1

00:39:16.100 visas.

00:39:16.460 It's like dude,

00:39:17.300 can't we just have

00:39:17.740 a debate about HP1

00:39:18.780 visas?

00:39:19.300 I thought this was

00:39:19.680 the free speech

00:39:20.200 platform.

00:39:20.660 Yes, and suddenly he

00:39:21.740 got very weird about

00:39:23.700 it and so now what

00:39:25.200 you're saying is that

00:39:26.400 was faked.

00:39:27.520 The video game one

00:39:28.500 was faked, yeah.

00:39:29.940 And it kind of got

00:39:31.060 pushed to the side

00:39:32.580 because video gaming

00:39:33.460 is sort of a culture.

00:39:34.860 It's a very micro,

00:39:35.680 like it's a huge

00:39:36.560 culture but if you're

00:39:37.480 not in video games

00:39:38.420 it's really easy

00:39:39.480 for that to not

00:39:39.920 come across your

00:39:40.640 feet.

00:39:41.040 Oh yeah,

00:39:41.320 Gamergate is such

00:39:42.340 a cool rabbit hole

00:39:43.220 to go down.

00:39:43.840 Change the internet

00:39:44.840 forever, right?

00:39:46.820 And so it just

00:39:47.440 little things started

00:39:48.260 to add up around

00:39:49.020 Elon that I started

00:39:50.240 to have more and

00:39:50.780 more questions about

00:39:51.700 is he really doing

00:39:53.860 what we're being told

00:39:54.680 he's doing while

00:39:55.320 he's tweeting all

00:39:55.940 day long?

00:39:56.460 He tweets all day.

00:39:57.060 All day long.

00:39:57.460 Tweets all day.

00:39:57.900 Right?

00:39:58.460 And so it starts

00:40:00.100 to get very

00:40:00.700 concerning as far

00:40:01.800 as where are we

00:40:02.480 going and who is

00:40:03.480 taking us there

00:40:04.360 because right now

00:40:05.620 this is more of a

00:40:06.540 crypto conversation

00:40:07.280 is there's a divide

00:40:08.880 between centralized

00:40:09.680 and decentralized

00:40:10.620 and crypto is the

00:40:11.720 obvious place for

00:40:12.540 this where the

00:40:13.340 banks are trying

00:40:14.020 to take the

00:40:14.560 concept of crypto

00:40:15.380 and turn it into

00:40:16.520 this centralized

00:40:17.120 digital currency

00:40:17.940 model where oh

00:40:19.140 it'll be just as

00:40:20.200 good as crypto

00:40:20.680 but we'll control

00:40:21.580 it from the inside

00:40:22.580 so there'll be

00:40:23.200 none of this

00:40:23.580 crazy volatility

00:40:24.260 none of these

00:40:24.740 crazy problems

00:40:25.520 though I think

00:40:26.220 they created a

00:40:26.900 lot of those

00:40:27.220 problems to make

00:40:27.940 crypto look bad

00:40:28.720 but crypto has

00:40:30.520 lots of problems

00:40:30.980 decentralized media

00:40:32.160 has lots of

00:40:32.760 problems like in

00:40:33.380 our industry the

00:40:34.080 decentralized media

00:40:34.900 people get things

00:40:35.760 wrong like we

00:40:36.580 we spread

00:40:36.980 misinformation on

00:40:37.660 accident people

00:40:38.500 can you know

00:40:39.020 come in and

00:40:39.640 spread misinformation

00:40:40.160 on purpose but

00:40:41.480 would you rather

00:40:42.180 live in a world

00:40:42.840 where these systems

00:40:43.720 are decentralized

00:40:44.500 and we all

00:40:45.180 control a small

00:40:45.820 piece or where

00:40:46.700 it's centralized

00:40:47.280 and someone

00:40:48.460 controls your

00:40:49.080 brain ship and

00:40:49.700 they can turn it

00:40:50.280 off and lock you

00:40:51.720 down in your home

00:40:52.240 and control how

00:40:52.820 far your car can

00:40:53.500 drive if you

00:40:54.380 don't play ball

00:40:55.080 and so more and

00:40:57.160 more it's looking

00:40:57.800 like in crypto

00:40:59.180 and finance in AI

00:41:01.100 and technology in

00:41:02.720 communications and

00:41:03.780 media in all these

00:41:04.720 different aspects that

00:41:05.500 control the world

00:41:06.220 we are seeing the

00:41:08.180 decentralized technologies

00:41:09.460 change the game

00:41:10.980 forever crypto

00:41:12.300 changing money media

00:41:13.680 changing the news and

00:41:14.980 information and over

00:41:16.120 and over and over and

00:41:16.900 more and more we're

00:41:18.040 seeing figureheads being

00:41:19.340 propped up that sort

00:41:21.260 of seem to be on the

00:41:23.120 team of decentralized

00:41:23.860 seem to be pro free

00:41:25.120 speech seem to be pro

00:41:26.140 crypto and then we

00:41:28.200 kind of like somehow

00:41:28.900 walk into this world

00:41:29.920 where actually it's

00:41:31.100 going to be this US

00:41:31.840 government thing or

00:41:32.560 actually it's going to

00:41:33.100 be this like we'll just

00:41:34.620 run grok and it'll be

00:41:35.560 the best one ever

00:41:36.360 oh gosh I wish you

00:41:37.740 didn't tell me this

00:41:38.320 because I've just been

00:41:39.080 reading so much about

00:41:40.340 and speaking about

00:41:41.900 Tavistock Institute if

00:41:43.240 you're familiar with

00:41:43.720 that like they can

00:41:44.360 quite literally just

00:41:45.160 make someone a

00:41:45.720 celebrity like they've

00:41:46.500 been doing this since

00:41:48.400 people who think that

00:41:49.460 the hippies generation

00:41:50.500 was totally natural and

00:41:52.180 organic it wasn't it

00:41:53.040 was literally they

00:41:54.280 decided what music you

00:41:55.360 would hear how that

00:41:56.040 music would impact you

00:41:57.080 they wanted people

00:41:57.860 LSD free sex rock and

00:42:00.320 roll and a part of that

00:42:01.940 was creating like the

00:42:03.300 Beatles like the

00:42:03.880 Beatles is a perfect

00:42:04.620 example the Beatles

00:42:05.420 was totally a

00:42:06.440 psychological operation

00:42:07.320 don't even get me

00:42:08.640 started on that but

00:42:09.800 then just in the

00:42:10.700 research that I've done

00:42:11.540 of looking at

00:42:12.340 Zelensky for example

00:42:13.660 he's clearly not the

00:42:14.660 leader of Ukraine he's

00:42:15.380 an actor a literal

00:42:16.560 actor who was trained

00:42:17.780 who had a whole show

00:42:18.860 about being the

00:42:19.700 president of Ukraine

00:42:20.540 before it's like

00:42:21.380 programming much

00:42:21.980 everywhere you look

00:42:22.700 they're all actors

00:42:23.720 like Emmanuel

00:42:24.340 Macron was an actor

00:42:25.480 he had no power

00:42:26.280 anybody who has

00:42:27.220 watched my Brigitte

00:42:27.820 Macron series walks

00:42:29.160 away and understands

00:42:29.940 that he has never

00:42:30.580 been in control he was

00:42:31.740 literally this is why

00:42:32.860 the Elon Musk

00:42:33.280 thing is bothering

00:42:33.680 me because they

00:42:34.100 just pretended that

00:42:35.000 he had this like

00:42:35.560 illustrious banking

00:42:36.280 career when in

00:42:37.000 reality David Rothschild

00:42:38.440 just like held his

00:42:39.080 hand up through

00:42:39.580 everything and he

00:42:40.580 didn't even know

00:42:40.980 what Ibitda stood

00:42:41.540 for he didn't even

00:42:42.260 know what Ibitda

00:42:42.540 stood for he was

00:42:43.240 working for the

00:42:43.880 biggest Rothschild

00:42:45.120 bank okay so they

00:42:46.820 do this it's a fact

00:42:48.140 like the people who

00:42:49.080 worked with Emmanuel

00:42:49.880 Macron spoke out and

00:42:50.740 said this like he

00:42:51.180 never they faked his

00:42:52.760 his I'm saying SAT

00:42:54.020 stores but there was

00:42:54.860 a just to add

00:42:56.100 this who haven't

00:42:56.700 watched it it's more

00:42:58.460 like an MBA program

00:42:59.480 that everyone goes

00:43:00.140 through at France

00:43:00.680 and in France and

00:43:01.940 it's basically like

00:43:02.620 the cream of the

00:43:03.560 crop go here and

00:43:05.080 one year Emmanuel

00:43:06.680 Macron who was an

00:43:07.920 absolute idiot and

00:43:09.220 somehow got into this

00:43:10.000 program after not

00:43:10.840 being able to get to

00:43:11.360 it for a while

00:43:11.900 somebody held his

00:43:12.620 magic hand and put

00:43:13.360 him in it they got

00:43:14.480 their test results

00:43:15.200 back and he was the

00:43:15.980 top of the class and

00:43:16.920 the class revolted

00:43:17.780 because they knew he

00:43:18.080 was an idiot and

00:43:19.000 they were like these

00:43:19.620 these are fake

00:43:20.260 results fake results

00:43:20.980 so they canceled the

00:43:22.820 exam results for the

00:43:23.660 year for the first

00:43:24.240 time ever and then

00:43:25.280 when Emmanuel Macron

00:43:25.760 became president he

00:43:26.540 canceled the entire

00:43:27.360 program because it's

00:43:28.660 a massive blemish on

00:43:29.900 his career imagine

00:43:30.900 like Harvard sits for

00:43:32.620 these exams and the

00:43:33.400 entire like class

00:43:35.200 revolts because they're

00:43:36.120 like Obama came in

00:43:37.100 number one they're

00:43:37.540 like there's no way

00:43:38.480 he didn't know

00:43:39.160 anything in class this

00:43:39.940 entire time you don't

00:43:40.700 even know how he's in

00:43:41.300 this school that

00:43:42.360 happened Emmanuel

00:43:43.080 Macron didn't know

00:43:43.640 anything about banking

00:43:44.340 he didn't know

00:43:45.040 anything about anything

00:43:46.880 when he was at school

00:43:48.020 a part of this business

00:43:49.280 program and he was

00:43:50.780 fake he was just he

00:43:51.740 literally was installed

00:43:52.640 as president of France

00:43:53.640 with the Rothschilds

00:43:55.040 behind him so when

00:43:55.680 you say something like

00:43:56.340 that about Elon Musk

00:43:56.900 about the banking

00:43:58.460 thing and potentially

00:43:59.640 people just making

00:44:00.800 his character it does

00:44:02.520 send a chill down my

00:44:03.120 spine because I just

00:44:03.760 feel like there aren't

00:44:04.720 enough hours in the

00:44:07.100 day yeah I mean and

00:44:08.700 the other obvious actor

00:44:10.500 is Donald Trump

00:44:11.720 unfortunately like I

00:44:13.840 don't think I still

00:44:15.080 am of the mindset that

00:44:15.920 Donald Trump is like

00:44:16.940 his own bullheaded

00:44:18.500 man that you know is

00:44:20.520 doing his own thing he

00:44:21.700 was raised in the

00:44:22.380 business world he's

00:44:23.080 right but I don't

00:44:23.620 think that his own

00:44:24.460 thing is closely

00:44:25.620 aligned with enough

00:44:26.320 of these people

00:44:26.860 throughout his life

00:44:27.680 that a lot of his

00:44:29.400 incentive structures in

00:44:30.400 his own soul are

00:44:31.740 directly aligned with

00:44:32.480 all these other people

00:44:33.180 and it's not it's not

00:44:34.680 so clear to me that he

00:44:35.900 is America first in the

00:44:37.700 way that Americans are

00:44:38.660 America first so the

00:44:40.160 reason why I always had

00:44:41.520 such belief in Trump

00:44:42.460 initially was because

00:44:44.560 they hated him so much

00:44:45.640 exactly they made it

00:44:46.860 very hard for him like

00:44:48.240 you know with Emmanuel

00:44:48.820 Macron the media loved

00:44:50.200 him they covered for

00:44:50.920 him they had they hit

00:44:51.900 every blemish Trump

00:44:52.980 was the exact opposite

00:44:53.960 in 2016 so I was

00:44:55.440 very inclined to

00:44:56.000 believe this was

00:44:56.300 actually an America

00:44:56.900 first movement and

00:44:58.160 they fought him tooth

00:44:59.100 and nail every day of

00:45:00.560 the first four years

00:45:01.360 now all of a sudden

00:45:02.420 things things are

00:45:03.900 different you know and

00:45:04.680 everyone can feel that

00:45:05.420 it's different and

00:45:06.140 people don't want to

00:45:06.760 admit that it's

00:45:07.180 different fine if you

00:45:08.360 really want to not

00:45:10.020 acknowledge reality and

00:45:11.500 what's happening but

00:45:12.680 it is true that I feel

00:45:14.060 like everything changed

00:45:15.020 the day that Miriam

00:45:15.760 Adelson wrote that

00:45:16.560 100 million dollar check

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00:47:48.140 phones to be able to be

00:47:49.120 in this world and making

00:47:50.120 a difference it's here and

00:47:51.760 it's coming and it's and

00:47:52.820 it's actually really

00:47:54.020 encouraging to me that we

00:47:55.580 all get to take part in it

00:47:56.600 and we all get to have a

00:47:57.420 say and that's why I keep

00:47:58.700 coming back to this

00:47:59.280 decentralized versus

00:48:00.240 centralized is

00:48:01.300 decentralization is like

00:48:02.640 the American ideal we all

00:48:04.080 have a voice we all have a

00:48:05.240 vote and we all can

00:48:06.200 influence our country and

00:48:07.540 our world together and they

00:48:09.260 are and they all of their

00:48:10.840 systems all these control

00:48:11.840 systems these political

00:48:12.800 systems these blackmail

00:48:13.760 systems they're from an

00:48:14.680 age when it was all

00:48:15.780 centralized and they

00:48:16.540 controlled the media and

00:48:17.360 they controlled the

00:48:17.880 newspapers and they

00:48:18.500 controlled the radio and

00:48:20.480 they we have been

00:48:21.120 watching them stumble over

00:48:22.560 trying to adapt these old

00:48:23.920 strategies and these old

00:48:25.120 operations and programs to

00:48:27.040 this new era and many of

00:48:28.360 them have been bungled and

00:48:29.940 been exposed like Jeffrey

00:48:31.740 Epstein for example the one

00:48:33.240 of Whitney Webb's primary

00:48:34.320 criticisms of my

00:48:35.300 representation of her work

00:48:36.320 that was a good

00:48:36.880 criticism was that I

00:48:38.200 focused I have focused a

00:48:39.540 lot on Jeffrey Epstein in

00:48:41.100 the earlier days in the

00:48:42.080 old school blackmail and

00:48:43.240 the sort of in-person

00:48:43.980 blackmail he was running

00:48:44.860 but over the last decade

00:48:46.420 especially of his life he

00:48:47.520 was trying to transition

00:48:48.540 into technology and to

00:48:50.100 getting access to the

00:48:51.140 technocrats and getting

00:48:52.500 into digital blackmail and

00:48:53.800 he was funding projects

00:48:54.880 like these Palantir style

00:48:56.540 projects carbine 9-1-1 is a

00:48:58.200 good example where

00:48:59.540 suddenly you don't even

00:49:00.480 need blackmail operations

00:49:01.620 because you've got everyone

00:49:02.660 addicted to porn and you've

00:49:04.340 got them all on this weird

00:49:05.640 next thing that AI is putting

00:49:07.100 in front of their faces and

00:49:08.600 so suddenly all you need to

00:49:09.580 do is have access to their

00:49:10.440 computers and their phones and

00:49:11.540 most people are immoral

00:49:12.480 anyways and don't follow

00:49:13.720 God because they've

00:49:14.480 demonized God pretty darn

00:49:15.620 good and so we were they're

00:49:17.940 trying their best to race to

00:49:19.800 adapt those old systems and

00:49:21.460 I think in a lot of cases

00:49:22.280 they're not capable of doing

00:49:23.360 it but they are powerful

00:49:24.880 systems and we do need to be

00:49:26.100 careful we do need to talk

00:49:26.980 about it because I think that

00:49:28.540 a lot like we live in this

00:49:30.060 bubble of thinkers we live

00:49:32.360 with an audience of of

00:49:33.820 intelligent people that want

00:49:35.260 to know more about the world

00:49:36.160 but the vast majority of

00:49:37.400 Americans are still like what

00:49:39.000 did sexy red do today like

00:49:40.300 oh my gosh I love sexy red

00:49:41.720 it's actually so funny

00:49:43.080 because I've always just

00:49:44.320 instinctually known that

00:49:45.680 pornography is a blackmail

00:49:46.940 operation it's common sense

00:49:48.460 to me that if you want to

00:49:50.780 basically they're becoming

00:49:51.980 the tastemakers it's

00:49:52.800 becoming more and more

00:49:53.500 deranged what they're

00:49:54.400 offering right so you get

00:49:55.980 everybody on porn hub and

00:49:57.180 you first have like relations

00:49:58.760 between men and women when

00:50:00.260 pornography first takes off

00:50:01.700 and then you make it more and

00:50:02.880 more and more perverted and

00:50:03.900 deranged and you know that

00:50:05.620 that addiction in their mind

00:50:06.920 they're looking as they're

00:50:07.860 watching porn for more and

00:50:09.080 more and more aggressive and

00:50:10.120 deranged porn and then you've

00:50:11.080 got them right you've got

00:50:12.020 their IP address and this

00:50:13.500 person you now know is

00:50:15.680 looking at this kind of porn

00:50:16.980 and so when you take a look

00:50:18.960 at who is owning porn and you

00:50:21.040 and you look at the the

00:50:22.680 connections there you go okay

00:50:24.360 this is obviously in its in

00:50:25.980 and of itself a blackmail

00:50:27.080 operation and that's why I say

00:50:29.420 to men don't watch porn you

00:50:31.040 shouldn't watch porn you know

00:50:32.420 in my world because I'm

00:50:33.980 Catholic and you're not

00:50:34.700 allowed to but if you need a

00:50:36.360 more if you're a person

00:50:37.540 who's like I need a less

00:50:38.540 theological reason well I'm

00:50:41.080 telling you it's because

00:50:41.840 you're gonna get blackmailed

00:50:42.860 like I don't the porn is not

00:50:44.180 here and I think about how

00:50:45.580 weird it was that in school

00:50:46.800 they were telling us it's

00:50:47.560 healthy to watch porn that is

00:50:49.080 so think about how weird it

00:50:50.340 is to reflect on that like

00:50:51.540 it's like oh no it's healthy

00:50:52.640 for men to watch porn once in

00:50:54.040 a while and telling you like

00:50:55.340 it's okay why would the

00:50:56.640 school do that why would the

00:50:57.780 school be telling you to

00:50:58.680 watch pornography for the

00:51:00.040 exact same reason why they

00:51:00.940 would be telling boys that

00:51:01.860 they can become girls and

00:51:02.720 girls that they can become

00:51:03.440 boys right and this is a

00:51:04.940 message directly to men so

00:51:06.540 if you can't get behind the

00:51:07.860 theological reasoning for it

00:51:09.160 and you can't get behind the

00:51:09.960 blackmail reasoning for it

00:51:10.840 because you don't think

00:51:11.240 you're ever going to be

00:51:11.680 important enough get behind

00:51:13.080 the success reason for it

00:51:14.320 because pornography deeply

00:51:16.700 kills your drive for success

00:51:18.000 and it deeply disconnects you

00:51:19.440 from the world and it deeply

00:51:20.480 disconnects you from your

00:51:21.360 masculinity and your your

00:51:22.780 testosterone systems and

00:51:24.460 when you're watching porn you

00:51:25.860 are just sedated you are

00:51:27.340 naturally sedated and that's

00:51:28.480 and I understand like I grew

00:51:30.220 up in the generation that

00:51:31.040 was porn was put in front of

00:51:32.380 our faces and our parents had

00:51:34.040 no understanding of what it

00:51:35.060 was and what was happening

00:51:36.320 and most people in my

00:51:37.200 generation saw their first

00:51:38.180 pornography like at age eight

00:51:40.040 or eleven like at their

00:51:41.140 friend's house and so

00:51:42.460 everyone in the millennial

00:51:43.660 generation sort of had to

00:51:45.280 find their own way through

00:51:46.380 that narrative and almost no

00:51:47.900 one escaped but it is on us

00:51:49.820 to escape from it and to

00:51:51.240 realize that if you let

00:51:52.500 yourself stay in that hole

00:51:53.640 that will in forever tarnish

00:51:56.100 your relationships with women

00:51:57.100 and you will never be able to

00:51:58.420 know the true depth of

00:51:59.500 happiness that you can have

00:52:00.900 when you like start a family

00:52:02.480 and love your wife and raise

00:52:04.200 children and be a good role

00:52:05.460 model and that's so

00:52:07.440 pervasive today and so many

00:52:08.880 people are deep in that pit

00:52:10.740 or even just a little bit in

00:52:11.900 that pit because it's no big

00:52:12.900 deal that if you don't watch

00:52:15.520 it you are in the top 0.01%

00:52:18.060 of men inherently and that's in

00:52:20.060 terms of how your brain works

00:52:21.180 in terms of how your body works

00:52:22.400 in terms of your testosterone

00:52:23.480 all these things and and it's

00:52:25.560 just the most obvious and it's

00:52:27.200 very difficult it's very

00:52:29.160 difficult for men I think and

00:52:30.420 especially some of the most

00:52:31.800 capable men have some of and

00:52:34.420 same with women it's like the

00:52:35.620 most capable women the most

00:52:36.800 beautiful women the most the

00:52:38.600 women that understand how to

00:52:39.460 manipulate the systems the

00:52:40.400 best they're the ones that

00:52:41.640 are like why wouldn't I engage

00:52:42.760 in these behaviors why

00:52:43.520 wouldn't I make free money

00:52:44.600 like I don't even need to show

00:52:46.140 this stuff I can just do this

00:52:47.400 stuff and I'll make a million

00:52:48.760 dollars but it is subversive in

00:52:51.420 every way not just politically and

00:52:53.120 blackmail but also just culturally

00:52:54.640 and dividing families and

00:52:55.720 dividing our what makes the soul

00:52:57.660 of America and they've

00:52:58.700 intentionally introduced it

00:53:00.080 everywhere and there is a I mean

00:53:01.380 I'm sorry but a direct

00:53:02.480 corollary from when they took

00:53:04.420 the Bible out of the

00:53:05.240 classroom that was all very

00:53:06.220 intentional understand you

00:53:07.680 should go back and learn in

00:53:09.080 history who pushed for that to

00:53:10.320 happen you have the 60s

00:53:11.880 generation the reason the CIA was

00:53:13.360 doing this was because they

00:53:14.280 wanted to crush Christian

00:53:15.320 culture I mean explicitly

00:53:16.840 there's a guy what is his name

00:53:19.680 I think it's Al Goldstein you got

00:53:22.220 no you got you gotta pull up this

00:53:24.200 Wikipedia Skyler if you could

00:53:26.020 pull up Al Goldstein on

00:53:28.120 Wikipedia explicitly said like

00:53:30.640 we created pornography because

00:53:32.140 we hate Christ this is the

00:53:34.660 literal quote it's so crazy to

00:53:36.600 read this here it is it's quote

00:53:38.360 the only reason that Jews are in

00:53:40.360 pornography is that we think

00:53:41.720 that Christ sucks Catholicism

00:53:44.220 sucks we don't believe in

00:53:45.380 authoritarianism pornography thus

00:53:47.600 becomes a way of defiling a

00:53:49.340 Christian culture and as it

00:53:51.200 penetrates the very heart of the

00:53:52.860 American mainstream and is no

00:53:55.040 doubt consumed by those very

00:53:56.800 same wasps its subversive

00:53:58.780 character becomes more charged

00:54:00.900 end quote I mean that is just

00:54:02.100 unbelievable like whoa it's

00:54:05.720 like take it to the bank we

00:54:06.960 created pornography because we

00:54:08.480 hate Christ and it's not as

00:54:10.100 Wikipedia this is not like a

00:54:11.080 conspiracy theory and so this

00:54:12.520 guy says this and you go to

00:54:14.160 yourself okay everything that is

00:54:16.700 happening is anti-Christ right so

00:54:18.360 we know that as Catholics you're

00:54:21.480 not supposed you keep your

00:54:22.600 families together you're

00:54:24.060 supposed to save your

00:54:24.860 virginity we don't believe in

00:54:27.160 birth control we everything

00:54:30.520 that's happening now is

00:54:31.820 counter to Christ culture it's

00:54:33.740 literally anti-Christ okay and

00:54:36.180 so you examine that and you go

00:54:37.920 okay now they're telling kids

00:54:39.680 like yeah no you can have most

00:54:41.660 you should have multiple

00:54:42.260 partners like this is all about

00:54:43.600 like sex freedom hookup culture

00:54:45.920 hookup culture no pornography it's

00:54:48.460 totally natural and healthy for you

00:54:50.320 to watch it together watch it

00:54:52.120 together I mean good for your

00:54:53.260 relationship what we learn it's

00:54:54.600 good for your relationship it's

00:54:55.500 the exact opposite for your

00:54:56.740 relationship and they've

00:54:58.140 introduced pornography just to be

00:54:59.620 clear we always talk about

00:55:00.840 hardcore pornography and

00:55:01.960 pornhub but it's everywhere and I

00:55:04.200 never realized until my husband

00:55:05.840 my husband said I was like why

00:55:08.640 why don't you want to be on

00:55:09.540 social media he's like because

00:55:10.600 it's all soft core porn yeah he's

00:55:12.520 like you turn on you open the

00:55:14.640 news you're reading the daily

00:55:16.240 mail and suddenly you have some

00:55:17.900 woman's butt cheeks in your face

00:55:19.260 you are on Twitter and it's

00:55:21.240 offering you people porn women

00:55:22.680 just dress this way and he's

00:55:24.020 like men are hardwired you're

00:55:26.240 selling a bag you're like okay I

00:55:28.700 can't just sell a stand-up cup I

00:55:29.880 have to also be halfway naked and

00:55:31.400 then do this why why can't you just

00:55:33.840 say hey if you want to support the

00:55:35.120 show go to Canada they can't do it

00:55:36.820 because they're they're actually

00:55:38.180 making pornography it's something

00:55:40.580 that it's almost impossible for men

00:55:42.820 who are hardwired towards that

00:55:44.080 stuff to resist and there's there's

00:55:46.060 a true evil in that because I

00:55:47.900 recognize that in Japan it's

00:55:49.840 nowhere yep I did not realize how

00:55:51.740 strange it is that every

00:55:53.200 commercial in America is sexual

00:55:54.800 until I went to Japan where their

00:55:56.800 whole thing is like make

00:55:57.460 everything cute like you know so

00:55:59.020 if you're going to sell it has to

00:55:59.860 be like Muppet talking and I

00:56:01.560 looked around I went there's no

00:56:02.560 billboards there's no boobs

00:56:03.640 there's no ass what's going on

00:56:05.660 there is a lot of repressed weird

00:56:07.120 sexuality in Japan there

00:56:08.220 definitely and that's a whole

00:56:09.560 other another category but but it

00:56:11.600 it is like because this is a

00:56:12.940 global force and and who knows

00:56:14.540 who's behind it but there is a

00:56:16.340 global force kind of pushing for

00:56:17.800 these things because when you

00:56:18.720 separate families when you divide

00:56:20.320 cultures and nations and like the

00:56:22.680 things that keep us tight

00:56:23.920 together and divide all that we are

00:56:25.860 so much more easily controlled

00:56:27.000 more easily depressed more easily

00:56:28.840 medicated more more and more

00:56:30.560 lonely and in need of the

00:56:32.040 government to give us things to

00:56:33.560 satiate us and to just you know

00:56:35.480 pass the time and to make life

00:56:36.860 bearable while we go to work

00:56:37.980 every day and I just you're you're

00:56:40.960 on the point of like sort of how

00:56:42.520 sex has always sold and it's

00:56:44.280 getting more and more overt but

00:56:45.800 there's this other aspect that is

00:56:48.200 that I've been noticing and it's

00:56:49.720 only fans and that only fans at

00:56:52.740 first it was so easy for people to

00:56:54.360 paint it as like this great thing

00:56:55.280 where they're going to empower the

00:56:56.240 creators and they're going to make

00:56:57.160 make the porn industry safer and

00:56:58.880 they're going to like let the women

00:56:59.800 be in control and then only fans

00:57:02.060 started doing PG content where they

00:57:04.820 would take porn stars and only fans

00:57:06.760 creators and they would have them do

00:57:08.060 normal TV shows and this is

00:57:09.480 happening right now so it's like a

00:57:11.160 travel show or like a cooking show

00:57:12.820 but it's like a porn star doing a

00:57:14.460 cooking show so that then you can

00:57:16.060 have this porn star on TV on

00:57:18.100 mainstream daytime television and you

00:57:20.500 can have your five-year-old your

00:57:21.580 eight-year-old your 12-year-old

00:57:22.720 watching a porn star cook food and

00:57:24.620 it's totally normal and that is like

00:57:26.620 subversion 101 is start to just blur

00:57:29.660 the lines more and more and get more

00:57:31.220 and more people make it normalized

00:57:32.500 make it part of culture and society

00:57:34.160 the exact same way that LGBTQIA plus

00:57:37.240 is just like just trying to bleed into

00:57:39.820 our schools and into our convert like

00:57:41.440 as though it's just normal and I pray

00:57:44.360 and like I pray that we are waking up

00:57:47.200 in time because for me it was this

00:57:48.900 learning it was programs like yours

00:57:50.940 and learning about how subversive all

00:57:53.120 this is and how hard the devil seems to

00:57:55.420 be working to weed its way into

00:57:57.080 everything that's what got me to think

00:57:58.800 about the Bible in the first place and

00:58:00.580 I'm still on my own journey trying to

00:58:02.180 figure that out and trying to figure

00:58:03.100 out what I believe but I would I was

00:58:04.440 raised with no religion and it was

00:58:05.820 learning about how evil some of these

00:58:07.700 people are and how they are directly

00:58:09.240 trying to subvert Christian religion

00:58:10.800 that's what got me to be like huh

00:58:12.440 that's weird I wonder what's on the

00:58:14.560 other side of that debate that's

00:58:16.220 exactly right it's when you start to

00:58:17.640 realize how overtly they are trying to

00:58:20.960 just attack everything every pillar of

00:58:24.040 Christianity that you go this can't

00:58:25.620 just keep being a coincidence like

00:58:27.020 there which means that since they're

00:58:28.760 doing this under a web of lies that

00:58:30.320 they they know that this is the truth

00:58:32.340 they and they they want to detach you

00:58:34.200 from that reality they want to attach

00:58:35.500 people from understanding that you

00:58:37.300 know you have a creator you have one

00:58:38.940 creator and you and you have a soul

00:58:41.960 and it the stuff that you are doing

00:58:43.800 actually matters instead they want

00:58:45.320 people believing in tech in

00:58:46.960 worshiping tech tech is going to get

00:58:48.680 you to the next level I'm like I don't

00:58:50.720 know what this is you think you're

00:58:52.540 recreating like the tree of life and

00:58:54.600 you think that people are going to come

00:58:56.120 and worship the tech lords and you're

00:58:58.280 going to be able to basically dominate

00:59:00.160 earth and you're going to be you guys

00:59:02.300 are going to become God but it doesn't

00:59:03.600 work for me and I'm not interested in a

00:59:05.660 brain chip in my brain I don't want to

00:59:07.280 drive your electric car all my

00:59:09.020 families to stay together I want to be

00:59:10.700 able to make decisions I want to be

00:59:12.600 able to criticize someone I want the

00:59:13.880 right to hate somebody because of

00:59:15.320 their race okay I want to be able to

00:59:16.740 be like yeah you know what I do hate

00:59:17.760 white people you know why because I

00:59:18.840 can say that because I'm in America

00:59:20.520 and that's totally fine for me to say

00:59:22.140 and as a white person I should have the

00:59:23.540 spine to be like cool I'm not like I

00:59:25.660 don't care whatever dude yeah like

00:59:27.400 that doesn't hurt me no and trying

00:59:29.780 to criminalize that was what was

00:59:31.620 really tripping for me was them at the

00:59:33.140 exact same time that they're trying to

00:59:34.760 train us to believe that speech is

00:59:36.200 violence they're also trying to train

00:59:37.780 us to believe that actual violence is

00:59:39.420 not violence so it's like a bunch of

00:59:41.020 Palestinian kids being blown up that

00:59:43.340 how dare you comment and say that

00:59:45.180 that's wrong that's that is

00:59:46.400 understandable violence and then it's

00:59:48.460 like Kanye tweets something and it's

00:59:50.120 like oh my gosh no this must every

00:59:52.280 person must make a statement and

00:59:54.060 condemn him for his speech violence

00:59:55.780 that that could really be really bad

00:59:57.920 and I'm I'm more awake than that you

01:00:00.380 know and I know how important it is to

01:00:02.740 protect speech because otherwise you

01:00:04.880 will get a government that is doing

01:00:06.080 demented and demonic things and you

01:00:07.940 will not be able to question that

01:00:09.440 government and I feel that we are

01:00:12.100 inching closer to that and it pains me

01:00:14.160 to say that I don't feel that guard

01:00:16.700 rails have been set up under Trump who

01:00:18.700 I have supported for eight years it pains

01:00:20.480 me to say but I now feel that he has

01:00:23.000 just allowed his administration to run

01:00:25.260 things and is not doing what I put him

01:00:28.280 in office to do or not or at least not

01:00:30.220 prioritizing what I put him in office

01:00:31.780 to do they had a very clear mandate

01:00:33.560 coming in and it was America first in

01:00:36.200 every sense of the word and the

01:00:38.780 deportation stuff has been a huge mess

01:00:40.600 right like so much of the government

01:00:42.680 you know getting the government

01:00:45.060 uncorrupted kind of been a mess some of

01:00:46.880 it's been great it's been easy to paint

01:00:48.220 it on Twitter and get lots of views for

01:00:49.980 you know promoting his last thing that

01:00:52.080 he cut or the last thing that he you

01:00:53.760 know uncovered and exposed which a lot

01:00:56.280 of that doge stuff was actually

01:00:57.520 publicly available information in the

01:00:58.820 first place like a lot of that was

01:00:59.920 already out there and at the same time

01:01:02.840 the real like Israel first bent to it

01:01:04.940 all is scary and the and the JD Vance

01:01:08.140 Peter Thiel connection where JD Vance is

01:01:10.500 getting propped up as like 2028

01:01:12.420 presidential run kind of material is

01:01:14.860 scary because JD Vance is very skilled

01:01:16.480 and I've really enjoyed everything he

01:01:18.080 said on camera like he is an excellent

01:01:20.180 public speaker and his debate was

01:01:21.780 amazing and I didn't know anything

01:01:22.860 about him beforehand and he's very good

01:01:25.360 at what he does but when you actually

01:01:27.220 research how he came up and how he got

01:01:29.540 put into that position who funded him

01:01:31.160 all the way up it just looks like

01:01:33.580 they're setting us up for 2028 to be

01:01:35.400 the next step down this road and trying

01:01:38.200 to keep themselves positioned as the good

01:01:40.180 guys is like they need us to be on their

01:01:41.960 team right behind them on team victory

01:01:44.020 all the way well the reality is is that

01:01:45.900 American sentiments are shifting and

01:01:48.120 it's not going to be enough I don't

01:01:49.400 think cropping up people is enough

01:01:50.740 anymore I think people are very much

01:01:53.500 awake to what's happening and that's

01:01:55.500 what terrifies them that's why they're

01:01:56.860 running this operation the co-intel pro

01:01:59.760 to and chaos to trying to make people

01:02:02.500 not believe in us and make us think

01:02:05.360 that we're the ones that are sold out

01:02:06.660 and by the way I do want to say this

01:02:08.800 too like their strategies are laughable

01:02:10.940 like they're so boomer cringe like the

01:02:13.720 woke right trying to keep pretending and

01:02:15.840 like confusing what woke like everyone

01:02:17.820 knows it's you like and they spend hours

01:02:19.780 on Twitter this is what the real woke

01:02:21.660 right is this is what the real woke

01:02:23.280 anybody who doesn't like Israel is the

01:02:24.840 woke right so guys we all know who it

01:02:27.380 is okay you can spend create an entire

01:02:30.480 liturgy of woke right we're awake we

01:02:32.780 know it's you we know it's you never

01:02:34.380 ending wars like especially when Meghan

01:02:36.200 McCain tried to weigh in I'm like no no

01:02:39.580 guys this is way too obvious you don't

01:02:41.540 want her on your team yeah their

01:02:42.760 strategies now are like we're gonna say

01:02:45.120 we're gonna criminalize just asking

01:02:47.480 questions I'm like this is such a bad

01:02:48.940 idea I'm like watching their PR from

01:02:50.780 afar and I'm just like guys you're not

01:02:52.220 winning anybody you're just not winning

01:02:53.540 anybody with this and they can't stop

01:02:55.360 themselves the Babylon bees brains are

01:02:57.280 broken over there and it is there they've

01:02:59.940 aged out I think they just like aged out

01:03:02.080 of PR and understanding like what Gen Z is

01:03:04.440 and understanding like how the

01:03:06.180 millennial sentiment and they're just kind

01:03:08.040 of engaging in really weird PR tactics

01:03:10.700 of like we're gonna issue a report on

01:03:13.720 Christ is king I'm going guys what are

01:03:15.640 you doing no one's falling for this

01:03:17.800 right now I mean you said they've aged

01:03:19.840 out I would argue that they have truth

01:03:21.560 doubt in the sense that the

01:03:23.760 decentralized media has opened all of

01:03:26.180 us up so they can't control what

01:03:27.860 everyone's seeing and hearing anymore

01:03:29.080 and the truth is so powerful and you

01:03:32.240 know you might say God is so powerful

01:03:34.220 because the thing so there's this quote

01:03:36.120 I always come back to and I heard it

01:03:37.400 from Ryan Dawson first but it might have

01:03:38.980 been older than that and it was that a

01:03:40.980 lie needs to be spoken a thousand times

01:03:42.660 to be believed the truth only once

01:03:44.540 right and it's because you need to just

01:03:46.680 hammer that into people but the truth

01:03:48.380 just spreads itself because everyone

01:03:50.480 has a brain everyone has a soul

01:03:52.300 everyone instinctively does hear God

01:03:55.220 deep down inside of them that like in

01:03:57.160 their own heart telling them what's true

01:03:58.780 and when you hear truth you know it

01:04:00.520 right and I think that they're doing

01:04:02.840 everything they can to divorce people

01:04:04.660 from truth divorce people from God

01:04:06.160 divorce people from each other and then

01:04:07.540 fill their alone time with garbage

01:04:10.020 because it's when you're alone that it's

01:04:11.960 just you and God it's just you and your

01:04:14.000 soul right and if you are the kind of

01:04:16.200 person that can't be alone that can't

01:04:18.240 have a night alone at home without

01:04:19.720 drinking or smoking or watching porn or

01:04:21.980 doing all these other things and it's

01:04:22.980 like I'm not judging you I have no you

01:04:24.400 know like I have I'm not a perfect

01:04:26.280 person throughout my life either but if

01:04:28.220 you aren't the kind of person that can

01:04:30.080 just be with yourself that can just read

01:04:32.260 a book and be at peace can be with your

01:04:34.220 own thoughts and be at peace that is

01:04:36.240 their goal is to stop us from being able to

01:04:37.780 do that to stop us from believing in who

01:04:39.360 we are and being able to connect as real

01:04:41.140 human to human which is what Maha is all

01:04:43.300 about Maha is all about getting back to

01:04:45.340 being healthy humans that have healthy

01:04:47.240 habits that have healthy relationships

01:04:48.700 that build a strong country and community

01:04:51.200 right yeah I totally agree and you are

01:04:53.660 right I think that is what it is is their

01:04:55.300 lives just seem louder and more erratic

01:04:57.240 now than they've ever been and they just

01:04:59.440 fear more people telling the truth and

01:05:01.400 they seem they also seem angry but you

01:05:03.400 can sense they're losing control because

01:05:05.840 we're all so happy and we're sharing

01:05:07.900 the stuff and we're excited that we're

01:05:09.380 learning outside of the public education

01:05:11.380 system and we're recommending books and

01:05:12.960 we're admitting when we get something

01:05:14.660 wrong it's crazy people with utter

01:05:18.060 arrogance and definitions and this is

01:05:20.620 what this is and you will be this and you

01:05:22.520 will be called names and I think they

01:05:24.980 almost they know yeah they know to be on

01:05:27.980 a losing team it does like it's like they

01:05:29.880 can see it they know it's over they know

01:05:31.940 that they're losing control and they're

01:05:33.340 just kind of becoming undone and you're

01:05:35.320 right that is the power of Christ and

01:05:36.680 that is what I have always maintained it

01:05:39.040 through last year to now is just when I

01:05:41.980 say Christ is king you can't defeat

01:05:43.660 truth you know the truth the light the

01:05:46.540 way there's nothing you can do to stop

01:05:48.860 this you're just and watching watching it

01:05:52.180 watching them come apart I can't deny the

01:05:54.460 fact that it's been entertaining it's

01:05:56.720 been a bit it's been so entertaining

01:05:57.460 being like oh wow the truth really upsets

01:05:59.320 you that much that you're just gonna keep

01:06:01.720 screaming and I guess let's maybe write

01:06:03.840 30 more articles about Ian Carroll and

01:06:05.820 Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson let's see

01:06:07.260 if we can get for 50 more out today on

01:06:09.620 your reporter group chat coming every

01:06:12.580 which way and it does nothing to diminish

01:06:14.420 our platforms because people do know

01:06:16.020 truth when they hear it it only elevates

01:06:17.580 them yeah it only helps magnify the

01:06:19.920 truth yeah yeah I think that I think

01:06:21.820 that's actually an amazing place to end

01:06:24.080 Ian what's next for you because you are

01:06:26.280 now under fire I love watching what you're

01:06:27.820 going through because I remember like when I

01:06:28.980 first got yeah caught a little bit of fire

01:06:31.160 and then like every which direction people

01:06:33.500 were just making stuff up I've heard

01:06:35.780 you're everything from like in the Mossad

01:06:38.060 oh yeah to Adolf Hitler yep which is

01:06:41.480 everything in which one is true I'm

01:06:43.520 funded by Madagascar actually I didn't

01:06:45.460 want to the news leaked that Madagascar

01:06:48.000 had so much tariffs and so now it's kind

01:06:49.800 of out there but but I'm actually quite

01:06:51.900 poor and my plan is to start taking my

01:06:53.700 job a lot more seriously and and being

01:06:55.580 more effective because through all the

01:06:58.160 slings and arrows through the crazy rise

01:06:59.760 I've had and through I've I've purposely

01:07:01.560 not actually gotten very much money

01:07:04.100 because I didn't want to work with big

01:07:05.360 companies I didn't want to take brand

01:07:06.940 deals and I still I still don't I want

01:07:08.660 to do my own thing my own way and and

01:07:10.980 through all this madness I've seen how

01:07:13.320 messy the like Twitter sphere can get how

01:07:16.040 how messy the online kind of back and

01:07:18.200 forth can get and so I've been really

01:07:20.420 inspired by people like you that are more

01:07:23.300 on their own train of thought and more

01:07:24.700 doing their own takes and their own

01:07:25.940 research and just staying in that lane

01:07:27.300 and not not getting distracted by all

01:07:29.480 the noise and so I'm trying to focus

01:07:31.080 more on YouTube and more on the products

01:07:33.540 and the corporation stuff along the side

01:07:35.180 too there's a whole other thing coming

01:07:36.300 out around that that I'll be talking

01:07:37.500 about in the next month or so and just

01:07:40.800 do my own thing and and sort of like

01:07:42.780 you're right that we're all so happy and

01:07:45.460 it's because we have things that we're

01:07:47.420 working on that matter that means

01:07:48.860 something to us that fill our life with

01:07:50.300 meaning and I think that's the best

01:07:52.180 indicator of are you on the right path

01:07:53.960 is are you doing things that fill your

01:07:55.280 life with meaning that even while the

01:07:56.580 world is burning all around you you

01:07:58.240 still know that you and your family

01:07:59.560 are on the right path and I'm on it

01:08:01.660 and I feel it and I love it and it's

01:08:03.060 amazing and I'm just getting better and

01:08:05.520 better at honing in on what is that

01:08:07.100 path and keeping all the other noise

01:08:08.580 out so do you have a way that people

01:08:09.860 can subscribe and support yeah yeah

01:08:11.920 they can follow me on X at Ian Carroll

01:08:13.900 show and I have a new website that is a

01:08:15.980 part of this new direction I'm going

01:08:17.520 which is cancel Ian Carroll calm which is

01:08:19.740 where I've moved all the merch to so I

01:08:20.980 don't have to deal with my own merch

01:08:21.940 anymore I got a company helping me with

01:08:23.100 that and that is the best place to

01:08:25.120 follow along for more updates because

01:08:26.580 there are more updates coming my

01:08:28.620 YouTube channel as well I'll be doing

01:08:30.020 a lot more on that and that is cancel

01:08:31.720 Ian Carroll on YouTube okay and if you

01:08:33.420 guys are on YouTube we'll link all of

01:08:35.340 this in the descriptions that you can

01:08:36.600 follow him and we'll also pin it on

01:08:38.520 the top of comments you can follow him

01:08:39.900 you know we just have to recognize our

01:08:42.500 own power you guys and I think it's

01:08:43.900 amazing like I always want to leave you

01:08:45.660 guys an optimistic note because as like I

01:08:47.900 said when we're seeing this stuff

01:08:48.800 falling apart and we're seeing

01:08:49.780 independent voices come to the top and

01:08:51.220 we're seeing the old guard kind of try

01:08:53.000 to say that these voices are funded it

01:08:55.640 should excite you you should you should

01:08:56.940 know that it means that they're scared

01:08:58.820 and that they're on the run and that

01:09:00.260 the old systems are failing for a reason

01:09:01.960 and ultimately like the sweatshirt I'm

01:09:04.080 wearing today Christ is king guys we we are

01:09:06.600 going to win this thing by recognizing

01:09:08.880 that ultimately what they've been

01:09:10.300 fighting is the the truth of the Bible I

01:09:13.000 really do see it is a spiritual war that

01:09:14.840 is upon us and left and right we need to

01:09:17.900 stay together and not allow them to pull

01:09:20.340 us apart again it's the number one thing

01:09:21.920 that they fear is us having recognizing

01:09:24.260 who the true enemy is and it isn't your

01:09:26.500 average American absolutely all right

01:09:29.820 guys well you can head to canisowens.com

01:09:32.260 to continue to support our work you've

01:09:34.000 already done a tremendous job supporting

01:09:35.420 me my independent career and I appreciate

01:09:37.160 you because I was terrified stepping out

01:09:39.240 on my own it's it is a terrifying thing

01:09:41.140 but I knew that it was the right thing

01:09:43.460 to do and it's I hope the exact same

01:09:45.460 thing for Ian he's been amazing if you've

01:09:47.100 been following his journey he's under

01:09:48.540 attack I love it he's gonna be fine I'm

01:09:50.420 not even worried about him I laugh at the

01:09:52.060 attacks on him and we will see you guys

01:09:54.860 on Monday

Candace Owens - April 03, 2025

Candace Owens x Ian Carroll ｜ Candace Ep 171

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