Candace Owens - June 25, 2025


Candace Owens x Russell Brand | Candace Ep 206


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Actor Candace Cameron Bure ( ) joins Jemele to discuss his career, his love of The Office, and why he doesn t get nervous in front of the camera. He also talks about his new movie, The Handmaid's Tale, and how he thinks about being a good parent.

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00:00:13.760 all right we're going to just start now you said you were extremely nervous
00:00:17.820 i don't like to wait around that's not true it is true why would i say it's not like it's not
00:00:22.520 like i'm saying oh guess what i see visions of angels and they're giving me guidance i'm saying
00:00:26.900 i get nervous no one would make that claim to make yourself seem or feel better would you what
00:00:31.120 like like you think it's some sort of reverse modesty oh i'm nervous because i'm so fragile
00:00:35.580 and not at all vain no i just think that you're a famous actor you know so i feel that you don't
00:00:40.520 get nervous when there's cameras around but maybe i'm wrong because this is the real you it's probably
00:00:44.080 easier to be somebody else actually that was also annoying being someone else was annoying i don't
00:00:48.300 think there's anyone you can be where it's not ultimately annoying unless what you're actually
00:00:52.120 doing is finding yourself in the constant living flow what it is is feeling like suspended
00:00:56.640 that's what i don't like i don't like the sense of suspension purgatorial i like to be in the flow
00:01:02.360 of it so i feel like and you know that's because when you are an actor there's a continual tension
00:01:08.480 between what's happening technically and what's happening on screen and that and the power balance
00:01:13.300 will be dependent on what type of director you have sometimes you have directors that are very like
00:01:17.480 obviously there's a standard that has to be achieved with lighting and framing and cinematography
00:01:21.420 etc but some people are very much like no i just want to see people affecting one another
00:01:26.020 with words i just want to see performances and other people are like really like say something
00:01:32.320 like kubrick all he cares about is making sure that it's a molecular level precisely what he
00:01:38.800 envisaged the vision is apparently so clear that he just needs to move people around through sort of a
00:01:45.000 pre-imagined set of shadows and stations that you could foresee that's the nature of i suppose kubrick's
00:01:50.880 genius and me like i would like it that just everything like i've probably to my detriment
00:01:55.500 gone just film it just film it and we'll work all anything else out after like oh look my hand's in
00:01:59.980 that shot what you know i mean is that you know this a that's a nightmare for someone it's the wrong
00:02:04.660 skin tone we could pretend it's like that it's candace's hand it's madness it doesn't make sense
00:02:10.180 oh no what you're doing hey are you having a better time with your own economic model is it
00:02:16.540 working better for you now why did you pick that voice your hand i just didn't i think i do this
00:02:22.460 character with my kids like well come on man let's sure do we go to bed isn't it bedtime 0.99
00:02:27.720 please capitulate you damn kids why don't you do what i ask you would be a very fun dad that's what i 0.97
00:02:35.860 would say definitely yeah because you get to create a bunch of characters and that's pretty 0.99
00:02:39.420 much what what raising toddlers is raising children is there's a bunch of characters yeah
00:02:43.500 that's what i'm doing there's a real cast of characters my kids encounter make them the heroes
00:02:49.720 of their own drama bring forth who they are you know what i think candace the word parent and the
00:02:55.440 word parentheses parentheses like brackets you're holding them don't interfere with them let them grow
00:03:02.320 let them be who they are just keep enough space around them so the state doesn't get in there and
00:03:06.860 turn them into little freaks or weirdos or their friends don't teach them some mad new vernacular of
00:03:12.220 crap slang turn them into little droogs you know what i would say is i feel that my wikipedia page should 0.56
00:03:18.920 be updated and so should your wikipedia be updated um to reflect the fact that i saved you from communism 0.94
00:03:25.400 and which made you a much better parent like your poor kids were one they had this communist
00:03:31.920 parent raising them and then i blew into england and rescued you and you were an unwelcome presence
00:03:38.160 in the house transformation right since you were an old-fashioned commie now you now hear me good
00:03:46.460 woman what happened was is i was and remain anti-establishment anti-establishment so i was never
00:03:54.540 like as in communist i think what we should do is give maximal power to the state you had the hammer
00:03:58.620 and sickle flag it was i did have a hammer and sickle flag and i was dressed as shea gevara
00:04:03.620 and i was reading das kapital yes yes and i did have my own little gulag in the garden where i did
00:04:10.820 i must say imprison intellectuals yes i did make them toil there i made them toil in siberia but other
00:04:17.720 than that i had no affiliation it was a bubble no because really in a sense don't you think there is
00:04:23.440 some source some divine force that's trying to express itself through you and isn't it our function
00:04:27.620 to cleanse the channel that we may become clear what was he doing by a chesterton's reckoning at
00:04:33.980 least saint francis when he went into that cave and burrowed downwards to the point where you burrow
00:04:39.340 down enough and in the end if you were burrowing into the center of the earth this is chesterton's
00:04:43.400 image that you would ultimately end up burrowing upward at some inconceivable point you are no longer 0.80
00:04:50.200 in descent you are in ascent saint francis having been called by his own father a fool in court
00:04:56.160 because saint francis was so in love with raising money for the church that he nicked his dad's
00:05:00.460 textile sold some off to repair a church wall his father was a bit annoyed about that dragged his
00:05:05.200 boy through the courts from the mere francis the ordinary buccaneer cavalier horseback riding 0.80
00:05:10.920 occasionally beheading mad goon francis becomes saint francis and says if i am a fool as my father 0.97
00:05:17.520 declares let me be a fool in the court of christ let me be a jester for our lord he just takes a 0.95
00:05:23.760 peasant's brown robe and ties it up with a rope within five years thousands of men are adorned with 0.89
00:05:29.080 that uniform surely it is our job to become saints candace surely that's what we're supposed to do and
00:05:34.440 we may grab our artifacts and archetypes from the culture and from deeper realms but we are on our way
00:05:42.020 back home we are on our way to eternity so when you came around my house i remember you prancing
00:05:47.340 you pranced you pranced around my podcast studio and oh everyone's just gonna get on and we're
00:05:53.200 gonna have immigrants and everything's gonna be okay i remember thinking even though i'm biometrically
00:05:58.940 diametrically opposed to this woman in many many ways i see in her deep joy and i like her even though
00:06:06.140 i've just been speaking to a black academic in my country who i respect who said that candace owens is
00:06:11.760 the black face of white racism i thought this is not what this woman is she is deeper and more profound
00:06:17.780 than that she is doing something interesting and also we can't keep going on like finding
00:06:23.400 legitimizing ways to not like one another what would make it legitimate for me to not like a person
00:06:28.940 well if this were true then i could suppose i could legitimately dislike them it's our duty to love
00:06:34.540 and it's our duty to become who he would have us be but you know what i think that actually
00:06:39.680 i changed so much in that moment as well and i agree with you i very much agree with you and i think
00:06:45.180 more people are watching this show because of the changes that i've made because i was thinking
00:06:50.680 in that vein this is the left this is the right and he is on the left and i am on the right and then
00:06:57.140 you sort of realize that actually we have a lot more in common and more of us are way more in the
00:07:01.240 middle and it's like these extremities are don't actually mean anything there's so so few people
00:07:05.840 that actually operate in that extreme and that's why i never actually took you for a leftist because
00:07:09.520 you were way too tolerant i mean we had so much fun i didn't care i actually had fun kind of dueling
00:07:14.200 with you intellectually and you'd say but don't you think this and eating whatever you were eating out
00:07:18.440 of that little bowl of snacks you had while you just had me there for two and a half hours two and a
00:07:22.840 half hours was it it was fantastic and people loved it and it was like the first time
00:07:26.760 uh where i checked the comment section and people were thrilled like left and right were thrilled
00:07:32.360 because they were so refreshed by people not sitting across from each other simply to hate each
00:07:36.780 other and that's a problem that we have and that's a major problem that we have but i will say
00:07:41.160 that i'm tremendously optimistic because i think it's it's something is is changing i'm not sure
00:07:45.940 what to attribute that change to but culturally things are changing my prayer and my faith is that
00:07:51.300 christ is on the move in our culture that christ has wearied of these false taxonomies of this
00:07:57.900 left and right ideas born out of industrialization and mechanization and the concomitant social
00:08:04.340 movements that are no longer relevant as we stand on the precipice of the third great anthropological
00:08:09.780 revolution technology technological revolution at scale that means that attention consciousness itself
00:08:16.980 could be commanded in in previously inconceivable ways but all things come from him he our father
00:08:25.360 in heaven that is the same a thousand years ago as he will be tomorrow he is outside as outside of time and
00:08:32.200 what i feel might be our challenge is to for us to be messengers of this deep truth that the technology
00:08:39.820 that currently exists can be used to create a kind of diaspora a mass decentralization there is no
00:08:46.780 requirement for centralized institutions either economic and private commercial or state bureaucratic
00:08:53.580 that there was a hundred years ago or 500 years ago that this is a time where you could be afforded a
00:09:00.640 degree of autonomy control and agency in the life of your family and of your community and what excites
00:09:08.880 me about that candace is that we would be able to diffuse this constant polarity and this constant
00:09:14.000 tension if you want to sign off and sign out from the experiment of your nation whether it's france
00:09:19.860 or romania or the uk the united states why oughtn't you why ought you be tethered to worldliness why do
00:09:26.580 they want us to treat the state and the world as if it were a kind of religion why do they lay claim to
00:09:32.440 the powers of the god that they deny even exist they want your constant fealty with today we believe this
00:09:37.840 it's a new doctrine today we have a new cast of saints that we want you to revere all the while
00:09:43.220 making the claim that it's ridiculous that we believe in the birth of the son of god the death
00:09:49.440 of the son of god for our sins and his resurrection that we may know eternal life they invite us to 0.95
00:09:54.440 believe in these detrimental ridiculous faith-based systems if you ask me somewhat tawdry they lack only 1.00
00:10:03.080 the forgiveness and majesty of our glorious faith you know i i have to force you to read this book 0.92
00:10:08.320 it's in tatter sitting next to me i have a book club and we're reading hollywood babylon and i just
00:10:12.640 oh god what's going on fantastic book filthy sleaze well written by kenneth anger in the 60s and got
00:10:18.120 banned from the united states because he just was he was you know a member of the occult and friends
00:10:22.760 with alistair crowley and just basically told all the secrets of how they established hollywood which is
00:10:27.300 not something that we often think about because hollywood was always a thing um and you came up in
00:10:32.040 hollywood and one of the things that's really interesting about you that i covered on the show
00:10:35.740 is that it seems to be the way whether it's you whether it's justin bieber or whether it's
00:10:39.440 you know kanye when he first when you kind of go okay hollywood actually is not fulfilling me
00:10:44.720 and i need something else and i'm kind of done being my own pagan god and you start to turn to
00:10:51.740 these themes that we are talking about eternal truth we start to turn to christ it seems like this
00:10:56.180 isn't okay you know no no no they want you to exist within the me myself the selfishness and
00:11:03.800 then when you turn that off and you start to represent something truer to your audiences
00:11:08.100 suddenly the media turns on you and this book really reflects that and it's called hollywood
00:11:12.460 babylon because he's telling you that that was it was established as a sort of faith they
00:11:16.900 intentionally called the movie houses cathedrals they were trying to mimic uh catholicism by turning
00:11:23.880 it on its head getting people to worship the stars why did they call them hollywood stars they
00:11:27.820 wanted people to worship stars actually brilliant so true and he is totally demonic and occult and
00:11:33.780 the stuff that he brought forward the author of this kenneth anger who you know contributed to these
00:11:37.640 sort of um you know because he was explaining how they really believed in sex magic and hollywood
00:11:43.420 babylon all of these people that established it but he's telling the truth these were his friends
00:11:47.220 and for this book to have been banned in america which i still cannot comprehend how it was banned in
00:11:52.220 america before they allowed it to be reprint and they removed certain passages from it fascinating
00:11:57.540 story you should read it because i think coming from hollywood and seeing that and experiencing that
00:12:01.940 i feel like the media loved you and then you found christ and they were like no russell brands
00:12:06.720 no he's terrible never mind he's a really bad guy don't let him tell you anything that might
00:12:12.600 supply your life with a bit more purpose and direction and meaning and true meaning well that's
00:12:18.020 thank you and in a sense it's a flattering analysis because i reckon that my exiling from
00:12:23.360 that particular little citadel owes much to blunt economics but i would say also that that is the
00:12:32.480 scrutiny deployed in that book there seems candace to me absolutely 100 right and there's nothing more
00:12:39.380 appealing than being told that yes you're right you are fantastic like like a culture that will tell you
00:12:46.420 that you're brilliant now most people i know that have become entertainers there are rare exceptions
00:12:51.640 have some grain in them of terrible terrible self-doubt and terrible loathing i mean don't all of us as
00:12:59.480 human beings in fact have that because understandably we are fallen and we are broken and we can never be
00:13:04.320 healed or whole alone not without him not without his sacrifice now like when you're in hollywood and
00:13:09.440 you're told actually no there's nothing wrong with your infantile desires and your urges and your
00:13:14.840 narcissism and your hedonism they find ways of monitoring and maneuvering those ideas but it in
00:13:22.400 fact is built upon as you said rightly paganism the idea of being sexually attractive like there's 0.98
00:13:28.500 doing this to this day i mean i i'm sort of struggling to i i caught a glimpse on my ex-feed
00:13:33.300 though i'm reluctant to look too much at any of these platforms because it seems that there is
00:13:37.920 some sort of semi-conscious desire within it to turn you all into a porn mad denizen of a world
00:13:45.120 of tension and threat and it like it's just like he's an act of violence he's an act of sex nevertheless
00:13:49.980 i saw on my feed that on the cover of rolling stone is a young woman who i'm assuming is a pop star called 0.97
00:13:54.700 sabrina now i don't know much about the culture anymore because you know it rejects me i reject it
00:13:59.300 like and but she's a sort of wearing like a porn outfit and she's like stockings and we're already 1.00
00:14:06.120 in the sort of we're deep into examining the objectification of women and what the consequences
00:14:12.460 of that objectification might be outside of exploitation and abuse and criminality all things
00:14:19.060 that we all know and understand to be wrong is the potential the environments that casually invite us
00:14:25.460 to objectify one another might be whether subtly or majorly contributing to the idea that we are all
00:14:32.740 here to just take from one another and that we can indeed fulfill one another and part of my own slow
00:14:40.380 weary near tectonic growth has been the understanding that people cannot fulfill you not just in obvious
00:14:49.000 ways like if you're sleeping around a bunch like i was for many years or having male friendships where
00:14:54.940 people are primarily there to serve you like like in one way or another make you feel good or work for
00:15:00.260 you in some way look that even you with your own children and your own wife if i'm not facing god
00:15:06.780 first and foremost i'll look to them unconsciously to make me feel better i want my little children
00:15:12.480 to cheer me up or my wife to protect me from this world it's only when i am confronted absolutely with
00:15:19.120 the futility and hopelessness of that way of life that i will finally in brokenness and humility
00:15:26.100 accept that i do need saving and that i can't be saved by fame or money or sex or drugs or power or
00:15:33.400 flattery or even by things that super like you know that seem that they would have more value duty love
00:15:38.980 all of those things unless undertaken in faith unless undertaken through a love of him will also run dry
00:15:45.300 eventually so like yes of course hollywood like before i get ready for a little name drop here
00:15:49.980 um i was friends with david lynch was like you know he he was big in transcendental meditation and i've
00:15:55.240 always been curious about states of consciousness and ways of accessing the mystery of like you know
00:16:00.140 i'm a drug addict i'm interested in mysticism always have been and i loved him i thought he was a
00:16:05.720 genuine artist and a brilliant man a genius in fact and he said to me once it's the light russell
00:16:12.360 why are we in los angeles what is it he said it's the light the light is beautiful now you think about
00:16:16.960 filmmaking cinematography the requirement for excellent natural light is absolutely paramount
00:16:22.460 and for him such a purist such a clear artist who was absolutely dedicated to what he did you know he
00:16:27.280 wasn't there to pick up chicks or get high he was in it because he wanted to tell stories about the
00:16:33.800 nature of consciousness the nature of dreams the nature of the dynamics between us suppressed violence the
00:16:38.680 violence concealed behind domesticity systems of conformity and control the very fact that lynchian 0.58
00:16:43.920 has become an adjective tells you that this was a man who was telling stories in a sublime and
00:16:48.340 brilliant way and when he said that about the light it made me realize or at least reflecting now i realize
00:16:54.300 that what it is is a place of false luminosity false light and what is lucifer the counterfeit the
00:17:02.160 emulator the accuser the great deceiver the stories that a nation tells itself about itself
00:17:07.580 form that nation's psyche and soul you'll see that in the type of actors that become stars the kind of
00:17:12.680 stories that are told the obvious pagan worship of god-like figures in the form of superheroes
00:17:18.680 obviously and the ongoing battles between good and evil and the ways that those arguments are
00:17:23.120 handled so a figure like lynch and a claim like that tells me that yes for geographical or even i don't
00:17:30.520 know what reasons of luminosity it became a place of significance but it does intrigues but doesn't
00:17:37.900 surprise me that long into the history of the institution of hollywood have been it has been a
00:17:44.000 deceptive agenda we all know that they have relationships with government institutions and
00:17:48.280 organizations we all know there's a global agenda an imperative that plays out there and whilst we can
00:17:54.120 recognize something like epstein island is like a kind of um what do you want to say a kind of ground
00:17:59.400 zero uranium of sexual blackmail across the whole culture it seems all of us have been invited to
00:18:05.600 participate in some way or another in shameful acts through pornography and hedonism or sleaziness stuff
00:18:10.740 that's just there's the normalization of porn the normalization of a cult that tells you that you
00:18:16.980 can resolve everything by pursuing your desires by serving yourself and i suppose i'm very fortunate
00:18:23.160 that through my own lack of self-worth and my own longing but also my own industry and my own
00:18:28.920 ambition and my own sense that there's something worth pursuing i got to be inside that organization
00:18:33.220 for a while and i got to experience it and i got to know as jim carrey brilliantly said i wish everyone
00:18:38.900 could know how facile how hollow how empty it is but also how people are captured there people aren't
00:18:44.220 going to come out and go probably you know i saw your interviews with harvey weinstein like people
00:18:48.760 aren't going to say look he probably did a bunch of stuff that was wrong but it probably the fact is
00:18:53.660 it was culturally normal what he did that's what i'm kind of guessing and that probably most famous
00:19:00.800 men in hollywood three four times a year make settlements for claims and at least it's an
00:19:05.300 industry it's like it's become industrialized blackmail normalization of hedonism a peculiar
00:19:11.000 establishment that helps that in the people that observe it makes us feel as i remember before i was
00:19:16.880 in it thinking oh i'm not good enough well maybe i could live that life maybe i could be famous maybe i could
00:19:20.600 be sleeping with lots of girls oh that would be lovely wouldn't that be fantastic and then when 0.96
00:19:23.660 you do it it's kind of empty and vapid and shallow and awful not to say there aren't brilliant and
00:19:28.320 wonderful people there i can think of a dozen marvelous people that i knew there but the its
00:19:32.980 cultural impact is ultimately malign it's like the covid jab looking back did it do more harm than good
00:19:40.460 did you get it no and like of course not uh thankfully no of course not i mean everyone was rolling
00:19:45.440 up their sleeves and we're like marching like it was totally fine i thought it was the strangest thing
00:19:49.320 i've ever seen it was a full uh global simulation it was i felt like i was watching a a show i was so
00:19:56.340 removed from it because i was already very awakened to and i'm not just like anti-covid vax i'm anti-vax
00:20:02.960 full stop my kids are not vaccinated and but unfortunately god blessed me by allowing me to be
00:20:07.980 injured by a vaccine when i was 20 no way and so i woke up pretty quickly and because then i researched i
00:20:12.940 was like why did i even get this random vaccine vaccine did it make you a racist that's what
00:20:18.220 happened yeah i'm still suffering from these you've got it quite bad yes exactly you've got the worst 0.92
00:20:24.100 case of white supremacism anti-semitism yeah side effects may include and i got all i got them all
00:20:29.480 so but i'm grateful for that experience well no no but seriously that i think that is what happened
00:20:35.380 um i was i went to get the guardianship vaccine nothing knew nothing about it just went to the
00:20:39.740 doctor the doctor said you should get this it prevents cancer you just trust your doctor it's
00:20:43.200 just one of these things where you just go well a doctor would never do anything wrong you don't
00:20:46.760 think i think i was 19 years old when the shot came out you would never at that time unless you had
00:20:51.740 been raised you know without vaccines think anything other than doctors as like their own kind of gods
00:20:56.860 like if a doctor says it it must be true if a doctor is doing this they're not motivated by profit
00:21:00.940 which they are um or the insurance companies which they are or the pharmaceutical companies
00:21:05.780 which they are where they provided all these incentives but you know i marched in got the
00:21:09.200 shot instantly had a mini seizure in the in the office and if this was a three part this was a
00:21:14.000 three series shot and the doctors were just sort of like you shouldn't you should discontinue this
00:21:18.680 series but then i realized i have no idea what i just put in my arm like what i why is this
00:21:22.720 happening and then i researched and went into the statistics of what they were saying what they
00:21:27.280 were promising and i it just was very clear to me that everything was a lie like it was just a
00:21:31.580 total simulation wow and from that moment on i was weary i became a skeptic of vaccines and the more
00:21:37.420 i researched when it came time to have our first child i was like we are not vaccinating our child
00:21:42.260 like i i have looked into every vaccine and all of it is all of this illusion this fear and so i was
00:21:48.100 very keen um because kennedy he was the only source i had if you were a mom and you didn't know
00:21:53.900 you know information about this vaccine or like i was just interested in gardasil he had the only
00:21:59.460 website the only organization that was doing work that way and he was catching a lot of heat for it
00:22:03.920 so it was it was very brave of him to do it yes isn't children's health defense yeah the children's
00:22:08.400 health defense and you know like because i've spent and had the great privilege of spending some time
00:22:12.680 around secretary kennedy what i know is that he is a person that is willing to take risks and that he is
00:22:20.960 guided where possible because all of us have many many ambient threats to deal with i'm sure
00:22:26.680 by the highest of ideals i met some of the mums that were around him and like you know that the
00:22:31.300 way that bobby got involved with vaccines is like mums with kids with autism that they intuitively as
00:22:36.040 mothers felt like that's come from when i had that procedure and like you know jenny mccarthy bless her 0.52
00:22:40.900 right that's one of the first people to speak out on it yeah yeah like you know don't you feel like
00:22:44.920 when you become a parent candace that there's like there's something that you feel like i don't feel like
00:22:50.060 it's right to do this like your trust is challenged something sacred and powerful kicks in you understand
00:22:55.820 immediately your duty is to protect this child and you feel uneasy you might do it if you're
00:23:00.160 if it's recommended or if you have you know i like you see you describe the blessing of having a
00:23:05.380 personal incursion that led you to be cynical about vaccines for me it was much more generalized
00:23:11.580 i don't trust authority i've had so many encounters with authority where the people that are meant to be
00:23:15.600 giving me me information are lying the people that are meant to be upholding the law of breaking it
00:23:19.200 the people that are meant to be making judgments are lying and are biased and are not at all
00:23:22.580 objective it just i don't know how that happens i'm just some normal kid from great essex in the
00:23:26.580 south of england somehow by the time i got to i don't know 20 30 whatever i knew that i knew
00:23:31.280 don't trust authority ever unless it's sublime divinal for it in good luck working out where that is and
00:23:37.320 when it's false and when it's real so like that that's what informed my decision there as well as some
00:23:42.960 people being kind enough to explain to me then the sort of the origins of many vaccines the
00:23:47.220 misnomers and misleading stories told about the successes of even some of the more celebrated
00:23:52.780 vaccines polio eg um but like no one has made the sacrifices that he made robert kennedy coming from
00:24:00.100 that family the successes he's had in environmental law his personal brilliance and his willingness to
00:24:06.500 put himself out there and i would say like even though obviously there is complexity with having
00:24:10.720 uh this current administration and like any government it seems to me there are shortcomings and challenges
00:24:16.280 and failings and people obviously on what would have once been known as the left will be decrying
00:24:20.180 almost everything that's happening now from tariffs to deportations to what's happening in the middle east
00:24:26.640 but one thing i kind of sort of i hold on to and cherish almost as if at the foot of the cross is
00:24:33.440 well i know bobby kennedy is a good man and i know he's going to do the right thing and then he wipes out
00:24:37.600 17 advisors then he appoints robert malone and then they make you know he is someone that i
00:24:42.760 have no trouble believing in yeah you know i think i worry for every person that goes into office
00:24:48.240 because we know how sophisticated going back to epstein how sophisticated these blackmail rings
00:24:51.900 are and you know it's my belief based on just things that i've read and learning about just
00:24:56.820 how infiltrated how infiltrated you are i'm talking about even at the university level they are gathering
00:25:02.900 intel on people on the basis of what schools they go to you know you think you're pledging a sorority
00:25:07.380 and you know pledging a fraternity and the next thing you know they've held on to blackmail because
00:25:11.260 they thought that you could be someone someday entire families that they are focused on because
00:25:15.440 of their legacy maybe the kennedys i find myself not certain that i can trust anyone once they get 0.57
00:25:20.320 to dc that there isn't just a file ready and like hey we know you did this when you were 16 years old
00:25:24.440 sorry about that but here's how you got to vote and to have some people who are just obviously
00:25:30.620 blackmailed i would say people like lindsey graham who just like i've never seen someone my personal
00:25:35.140 belief again i have no evidence to that effect but just the way he just dances for war it's bizarre it's
00:25:39.300 just he loves war so much that i'm like okay what do they have on you this is just weird do you think
00:25:42.900 there might be aside from missiles another phallic shaped object that lindsey graham that's my point 0.99
00:25:49.440 prone to that he's keen not to have in the public eye i i think there should be a war yes a warhead
00:25:55.700 a thick juicy warhead with uranium sputtering out all over my chops war war i tell you i'd like to relax
00:26:05.020 and dilate into a war i'd like to reverse myself into a war sorry what are we talking about again
00:26:10.380 sorry oh it happened again mom i just spilled my muddle milk oh no the tummy worms escaped again
00:26:17.940 mommy and now i just told jesus another lie ah the tummy tadpoles are loose the tummy tadpoles are loose
00:26:27.340 um so if in conclusion if you could give more money to northrop grumman raytheon lucky modding
00:26:33.620 and boeing and then no one need to know how i pass the evenings well that's exactly you said it you
00:26:40.860 said everyone was thinking it and you said it that was a hypothetical that was a hypothetical
00:26:44.240 hypothetical allegedly allegedly allegedly allegedly allegedly that protects you from everything
00:26:49.220 my lawyer says lindsey lohan lindsey lohan allegedly or something someone but yes it's so obvious and
00:26:54.700 you're like okay clearly we know what people we know but i would just kind of respect the person
00:26:58.780 that came forward and i think one day there will be the individual that says hey listen i did this
00:27:02.620 awful thing you know i was high on this and they got me on camera doing this and i just want you guys
00:27:07.340 to know that and i can't consciously vote this way because i'm being blackmailed i think all of dc is run
00:27:12.200 by blackmail so i i don't have any faith in the system even when people go to dc that you believe in
00:27:16.160 something seems to happen when they get into the swamp and it's just i've seen it people flip the people that
00:27:21.280 you truly believe in and so i've kind of removed myself from politics in many ways and then you just
00:27:26.180 lean into faith you know it's the only thing that's real that's what i'm doing so i think that's real
00:27:29.680 we can trust the lord we can trust put our faith in him he's faith in him will cast out all fear
00:27:35.460 he is our strength and our song he's given us victory i'm tired of leaning on my own understanding
00:27:41.020 of reality i'm tired of trying to work this out all the time i'm tired of trying to understand why
00:27:45.860 these things are happening and those things aren't happening and why people are fallible you know as
00:27:49.600 one becomes more familiar and versed with scripture candidates it doesn't all just make the most
00:27:54.500 tremendous and obvious sense we're broken we're fallen we find it hard to listen to god we keep
00:27:58.800 rebelling against god continually god loves us god wants us to return in to his embrace and we find
00:28:06.040 it impossible because we are attracted by the false light by the false luminosity by the glamour by the
00:28:10.740 urges of the flesh by the mental devilry and by worldliness even things that i thought would not make
00:28:18.000 sense to me you know reading like the old testament i thought like you know when i became christian i
00:28:21.500 thought i'm not going to be delving into lamentations and jeremiah and trying to make a good fist of
00:28:27.320 samuel but actually like everything that i'm reading it works simultaneously on a near mythic but historic
00:28:35.820 level that in the same way that geometry music and maths could be seen as a language that go beyond the
00:28:43.260 parochial limitations of english or whatever other patois you may happen to articulate in but there's
00:28:51.440 a deeper truth available in scripture if you will allow it in now of course anything can be utilized
00:28:58.160 to leverage control to oppress to distract to lie and there's no question that the church in all of its
00:29:04.980 sects and denominations has committed abominations atrocities even in some cases but our lord remains
00:29:13.540 a luminous incandescent above and by the covenant of his blood let me drown in his blood let me gorge on
00:29:20.000 the eucharist i don't want to live my life in faith any different than i live my life as a drug addict
00:29:27.140 i will want to live absolutely perfect honesty perfect truth aspiring after it knowing that i'm fallen but
00:29:33.480 knowing that it is done that it is finished in his name and there are such things as saints and i
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00:32:05.680 candace promo code candace i do want to stick on the topic of speaking of false light because i wanted to
00:32:10.280 get your opinion on this and you also just spoke about glamour and people that were attracted to
00:32:15.060 these things and i have just always been a little i guess i should say
00:32:20.720 you know i want to make sure i use the right word here good that time you started paying attention
00:32:27.400 exactly i've been watching this for months i was unsure where's the guy with the mustache that's what
00:32:33.200 i want to know i thought you were the guy with the mustache and the conspiracy theories i'm supposed to
00:32:37.280 be allegedly warm up we could warm up but i could i would say is that i was unsure i i was slow to the
00:32:44.400 i love elon musk party and this gets into i was also pregnant i swear women's intuition goes up when
00:32:48.860 they're pregnant it's a thing yeah you get weird dreams i'm sure your wife did when your wife is 0.94
00:32:52.520 pregnant it's very weird dreams very specific dreams i don't know um and you just feel a bit
00:32:56.900 more connected and and there i just was slow to the elon musk welcome party grateful for waited for
00:33:02.060 twitter obviously no brainer um we we really did almost lose twitter i'm gonna call it twitter
00:33:07.340 because i can't say i x'd like when you send a tweet it's still like i tweeted right so i'm gonna
00:33:12.080 say twitter um but x and i appreciated that and then i kind of saw this adoration this sort of
00:33:20.060 adoration that suddenly conservatives had and he kind of became and i would say like they kind of
00:33:24.360 turned him into like a demigod you know and he could do no wrong he's at the white house and i was 0.86
00:33:27.620 kids there and everyone's like applauding this and i'm gonna wait a second wait a second
00:33:30.040 have we checked in on what his values are like who this person actually is or are we just saying
00:33:34.860 you had so much money that you could afford x and that's it and that's all that's required
00:33:38.260 um to get into our good graces which is wealth and does that make us any better than the left
00:33:42.140 and the left i would say worships celebrities and worships hollywood and like taylor swift writes a
00:33:46.660 post and so therefore they vote same thing different side of the aisle in my view the way that i was
00:33:51.980 looking at it and then this blow up happens last week or the week before and i was just wondering
00:33:58.060 what your take was on that blow up as you're watching that from across the pond what were
00:34:03.060 you thinking about this kind of battle of the egos if you want to call it between trump and elon and
00:34:08.560 then suddenly elon just dropped some jeffrey epstein-esque tweet out of nowhere i was watching
00:34:14.260 dr strange love the cubric movie about the advent of nuclear power and the impossible and improbable
00:34:22.120 responsibility granted to military generals and presidents alike what cubric's genius accompanied
00:34:29.380 by that other great british genius peter sellis demonstrates so wonderfully is that even when
00:34:36.840 dealing with armageddon and the apocalypse human beings are frail and fallen and broken this is
00:34:42.800 illustrated to great comic effect in that movie oh no someone just has a bad day on the military base
00:34:48.900 or comes up with a theory or notion and decides that they are gonna let loose nuclear warheads
00:34:55.600 on russia and the story sort of unpacks how ridiculous it is that anyone would be granted
00:35:00.200 that or for it is a kind of anti-openheimer where oppenheimer sort of studies from a kind of sort of
00:35:05.560 earnest and intellectual perspective the morality of coming up with a weapon and what would you do to
00:35:10.180 stop the nazis is it okay to kill baby hitler those kind of sort of parlor game intellectual
00:35:15.640 musings about moral philosophy what what you get when you don't approach it seriously but you promote 0.98
00:35:20.720 approach it comically candace is elon musk is a brilliant man a very brilliant fallen man donald trump
00:35:28.880 is the man clearly the world inverted commas needed for this time where i got to even as you say as a
00:35:35.860 communist is that my mistrust and loathing of neo-liberal marionettes and pretenders hiding behind
00:35:45.360 faux morality who wear every single judgment you could tug a thread you know hillary clinton shrill and 0.51
00:35:50.680 outraged about the qatari jet and yet the clinton foundation taking millions from the very same
00:35:56.940 united arab emirate nations it just makes you almost yawn at their lack of morality well what i would say 1.00
00:36:04.140 we're living in now is an age of a revival of national nationalist populism to act as a bulwark
00:36:12.240 against globalism and it's a good a prophylactic as people are likely to come up with forgive the
00:36:17.060 word i know you're a catholic and i am and also the the other thing is a kind of as you suggested in
00:36:23.920 your question the elevation of brilliant but obviously limited because they are men to positions of
00:36:31.480 outrageous power now i would any day take an elon musk over a jeff bezos or a mark zuckerberg based
00:36:38.960 on a limited amount i know about any of them but elon musk may be a great genius when it comes to
00:36:44.900 technological innovation marketing the understanding of the requirement it's a long long portfolio of
00:36:51.360 excellence that he has access to but i would say that when people like elon not people like him he's a
00:36:57.340 unique and as i keep saying brilliant man when anyone has access to that amount of power i would
00:37:02.840 want to start looking at the structures of power themselves or the institutions themselves because i
00:37:08.360 don't think anybody is capable of yielding that much power particularly with the way that the world
00:37:13.940 operates now look at the revision that's taking taking place around figures that you just would have
00:37:19.320 irrefutably regarded as unreproachable irreproachable rather geniuses uh churchill like a sort of
00:37:27.180 magnificent hero that sort of almost burned himself on the altar of war uh martin luther king a person
00:37:34.360 who had allowed himself to be consumed by the civil rights struggle gandhi happy to be martyred for the
00:37:40.400 freedom of india all broken all flawed gandhi always slept in a bed with his nieces martin luther king 0.97
00:37:45.320 was having sex with his secretary winston churchill was an alcoholic and overplayed his hand in dresden 0.78
00:37:50.760 to the detriment of the german people well guess what they're not perfect and perfection is not a 0.94
00:37:54.260 standard that's ever going to be attained by any human being so perhaps look at how you institute
00:37:58.420 systems and if they're not a reflection of divine and holy values you will come across the same flaws
00:38:03.460 and failings that human beings always come across hubris uh love of power false idolatry scripture is full
00:38:09.540 of people that for a moment have the holy hand whether it's saul or solomon but then turn again to their
00:38:14.260 own power you or i can we be confident even with the limited power we possess through the screens
00:38:18.880 that people watch us on now that i won't fall again that i'm not consumed by the fact that i feel
00:38:22.820 like i'm being unfairly attacked by deep state authoritative authoritarian power media conspiracy
00:38:28.980 albeit it's a gun i loaded through years of clumsy foolish consensual promiscuity how can i feel my human
00:38:37.400 fear around those ideas and keep focused on my own fundamental irrelevant except as how to how
00:38:44.100 i may serve him you i know you have challenges in your life you had an extraordinary ascent brilliant
00:38:49.300 relationships brilliant alliances some of which have not worked out and you're a mother and a wife and a
00:38:55.660 woman and you're gonna have to deal with your own fallibility thankfully the one thing both you and i 1.00
00:38:59.860 have elected to do is turn away from self where possible albeit falteringly and failingly and towards
00:39:05.840 christ and to focus on what we are told not what we just deduce and make up i'm told i'm i'm married that
00:39:13.440 means i'm married that means i'm with my wife now i'm with my wife when i'm walking down bleeding
00:39:17.440 broadway in nashville last night my daughters and my my daughters are at my side and my son is in my
00:39:22.140 arms and i'm with my wife there's not a moment where i get to say oh it'd be nice to look at some
00:39:26.300 pornography it'd be nice to cash in on some female attention those days are long long gone and good 1.00
00:39:32.860 riddance but you know i sometimes hanker after outrageous power in fact just before everything kicked
00:39:38.100 off in my country i was thinking about running for mayor there was a mayoral election in london i was just
00:39:42.400 starting to talk to people about it whether or not i could get some sort of like you know populist
00:39:47.000 pseudo celebrity sort of rush to minimal local political power in london and some might argue
00:39:55.440 that london could do with a a populist mayor that's sensitive to the needs of working people aware of
00:40:01.240 britain's national identity and some of the challenges that city faces but that's not the way that it rolled
00:40:06.840 out at that moment in time and in a way perhaps that's a great blessing because i'm a deeply fallible
00:40:11.040 flawed human being i'm malleable and foolish and hubristic and the best i can do is like our great
00:40:17.900 teacher and leader paul own that own that maybe maybe in our weakness he may be strong in us maybe
00:40:24.320 if we're willing to be sacrificed on the cross that he can be reborn in us maybe then we can be a vessel 0.91
00:40:30.020 for his power because if it's coming from russell it will end up being selfish and foolish and broken
00:40:36.160 and to know that is at least to know something i think one of the things i struggle with with a lot
00:40:41.160 of these characters that are being kind of put into the forefront throughout this administration
00:40:45.360 whether you're talking about peter teal who's very close to jd vance or you're talking about elon musk
00:40:49.320 who was in there for a moment is i've i've begun to view everyone through the lens of family
00:40:56.200 um and if you think about christ when we say okay well we're leaning towards christ you know we're
00:41:02.040 we're finding our faith we're leaning into christ well what what would be leaning into the antichrist
00:41:06.060 what is anti-christ just kind of breaking that down what is anti-christ self um anything that
00:41:11.780 aspires to destroy or pervert the family unit i would say is is quickly behind it right because
00:41:16.560 there is to be christ like you're talking about i'm with my wife i'm with my kids say same thing
00:41:21.760 about why i really appreciate tucker carlson it's how he lives his life as he as he leads his family
00:41:26.340 right um my grandfather was the same way i think it's if if there's any reason why it turned out
00:41:31.640 like i did and and have the values that i have because my grandfather my grandfather was like
00:41:35.140 lord and then family you know faith family and i worry about this sort of ai automated future that
00:41:42.680 i think that we're barreling towards um where we have these people that are interested in shaping the
00:41:47.600 future of our countries but it to what end if they don't aspire to family right and this kind of
00:41:54.600 you know elon musk impregnating so many women via ivf that's weird to me i just find that to be
00:41:59.500 weird makes me uncomfortable and i can't explain it where i just don't want someone who thinks the
00:42:04.120 future is us i don't know being robots you know is that really is that what we want have we stopped
00:42:09.720 to consider what how these people are living their lives and what that actually means and so that's
00:42:15.520 something that i worry about is is it just seems to me that there is this very intentional um race
00:42:23.480 towards an automated future and i think a lot of these guys are playing a part in it sam altman
00:42:29.460 elon musk peter thiel and because we view ourselves as left versus right and so if somebody says something
00:42:35.180 good about trump we're like yeah if somebody says you know something good about kamala harris you're
00:42:39.120 like yeah we're all in that we don't necessarily stop and pause it and say okay but actually where do
00:42:44.040 these people stand on christ and when i'm and i'm saying there is truth where do these people stand on
00:42:48.860 um this issue that issue are they anti-christ or are they for christ on these topics and that might
00:42:55.220 be where i find myself a bit of an orphan at the moment i don't think you're an orphan i think you're
00:43:00.440 a beloved daughter on on that basis and i think it's an excellent tool i was thinking about what christ
00:43:09.760 has said about marriage and certainly i feel that scripturally a life without family is possible he
00:43:18.560 himself was a celibate single man albeit a god man and i feel that in marriage we can emulate the
00:43:27.120 church's relationship as a whole with our spouse and certainly i can see the many benefits benefits of
00:43:34.600 the institution of marriage and i am the privileged recipient of those benefits thanks to my beloved
00:43:39.920 wife laura but i would say that your point about christ or anti-christ as the spectrum upon which
00:43:48.420 we are all moving is an accurate one and a good means of assessment when people as is customary and
00:43:56.640 somewhat popular these days make claims that the cultural legacy of christianity is with value of
00:44:02.760 value i like the architecture or i like the morality or the idea that life has meaning and value and that
00:44:09.900 we're sacred and because we are made in his image because we bear his hallmark his molecular signature
00:44:15.440 that when george orwell describes a boot stamping on the face of a human being forever as the ultimate
00:44:21.180 dystopic image he is describing the state's tendency and desire to scrub away god's signature across all
00:44:29.120 life across humankind and across nature i would say that the sort of tower of babel component that's 0.95
00:44:36.940 within technological progressivism is a great cause for concern and consternation yet our lord uses the image
00:44:44.760 of the yoke which would have been technology once to be bound together with him to walk his steps with him
00:44:52.680 his yoke is light the burden is not hard to carry if all technology might be used like this yoke in the service
00:45:00.540 of walking with our lord then neural link could be fantastic then ai could be magnificent then rocket
00:45:06.040 ships could be glorious but my sense is that from as long as there's been technology the technology is
00:45:12.400 almost by default ended up in the hands of the most powerful individuals and institutions and been
00:45:16.980 utilized for them to maximize their power and to preserve their system any system whether it's the
00:45:22.460 human anatomy or a virus or global economics has its own self-preservation as its utmost priority
00:45:28.060 otherwise well that's the obviously its terminology is assured so i would say that this myth of progressivism
00:45:37.000 under which we've long toiled which requires that we forget perhaps deep history forgotten and lost worlds
00:45:42.920 that we may have once inhabited so that we can all toil labor and continue to worship under the illusion that
00:45:49.120 it's never been like this before whether it's penicillin or tesla we're roaring onwards and now we know that a
00:45:55.620 woman's place isn't in the home it's in the workplace and you can do what you want and we're the gods of
00:46:00.340 our own bodies and we're the gods of the vaccine and we're the gods of the molecules you can snip off
00:46:04.660 that and stitch up that and you can do this or that or whatever because you are god because there is no god
00:46:09.580 this idea that we're advancing somewhere that there is a telos and that we're in control of it
00:46:14.020 but i believe to be the ultimate devil worship because what it has done is it's posited that human
00:46:19.860 rational power the power of the individual and our collective power i suppose is democracy the idea
00:46:24.500 that a mandated mass is equivalent to a god is that what the proposition is it is somehow superior to
00:46:31.540 the divine authority of our creator god god the father our triune relational god our god that sent
00:46:38.640 his only son the son that gives us the advocacy of the holy spirit that that power can be usurped that
00:46:44.580 that power can be ignored that that power can be emulated and replaced and people make intellectual
00:46:49.820 claims abundantly and i don't feel like they fully know what they're saying and even that he says from
00:46:54.900 the cross forgive them they know not what they do when the claim is made that we will solve disease
00:46:59.080 that we will solve poverty that we'll occupy mars that we'll do this we are advancing from a point that
00:47:05.480 we should never have left we are marching forthright out of eden not turning back to glance at the flaming sword
00:47:11.560 i don't think we're advancing at all no i think that i think that's one of the great illusions and
00:47:14.960 i wonder i i when i take a look at the world today and i look at the ancient civilizations that were
00:47:19.780 bombing the old church structures that were bombing i see this very intentional darkening darkening of
00:47:24.300 mankind i actually think if you want to get into my conspiracies that the enlightenment was not
00:47:28.960 enlightenment i think it was the darkening of mankind i think something happened there was some
00:47:31.980 sort of a great reset in about 1850 and if you control the textbooks and you control people know
00:47:37.900 and they tell you oh well it was so terrible everybody was dying we don't know we have no idea
00:47:41.440 and and i do think that there is um we have removed ourselves from the source like we've removed
00:47:47.500 ourselves from god in so many ways and i mean even when i realized and this is like a small thing that
00:47:51.980 happened in my life so this is totally anecdotal but when i moved down here and tennessee and i was
00:47:56.400 like okay well i want to start to to grow stuff like i'm from new york city i want to learn to like
00:48:00.180 grow vegetables and kind of went outside and realized i had no idea how to do that i had no idea what
00:48:05.520 agricultural zone i was and i didn't know what could grow and i said and this is advanced civilization
00:48:10.020 i can't feed myself i don't know how to grow and and drop a seed and then i this this older woman 0.96
00:48:15.780 who's got like 26 grandchildren helped me and she's like you just put the seeds in the dirt and here's 0.97
00:48:21.140 what grows here and just this spiritual awakening that i had that i was an absolute idiot you know 0.97
00:48:28.360 for all the fancy things living in new york city okay if the electricity went out they would die 0.99
00:48:33.200 they would all die okay and they are the brightest minds oh they're so bright they're so smart they
00:48:38.680 have these cars you know these cars that can drive by themselves oh so you're saying they can't drive
00:48:43.380 like you know so the people we're going to get to a place where we don't know how to drive we don't
00:48:47.000 know how to grow our own food we don't know how to take care of our own children i mean even
00:48:50.800 the idea and this is another thing i thought about recently obviously because i'm exclusively
00:48:54.420 breastfeeding my my infant and i'm thinking to myself i i sent a text to a brett cooper who i used to a
00:49:02.220 former colleague of mine and i said to her because she's pregnant think about the fact that they
00:49:05.360 created this environment where women are paying going to the store and paying for formula and this 1.00
00:49:14.400 is now a household expense right formula because it's easier you'll be able to get to work and that's 0.98
00:49:18.920 something that your body just produces for free i mean we're really quite dumb if you spend a lot of 0.99
00:49:24.260 time thinking about it we're idiots our grandparents were smarter than us think about this all the time my 1.00
00:49:28.480 grandfather could go outside he knew every you know this grows here that's poison he could look at it 1.00
00:49:33.440 and tell you if you had a burn a cut he knew what he could pull and fix and we have none of that
00:49:37.800 knowledge because we've given it to these gods these doctors and what do we get for it we get vaccines
00:49:42.600 we get kids that have never been sicker you're telling me that society has advanced and kids are
00:49:46.260 allergic to oxygen i mean i'm being facetious a little bit hyperbolic but these kids are allergic to
00:49:51.120 everything they're like peanuts and tree nuts and now they can't allow c nuts and d nuts and i'm going okay
00:49:55.820 kids are allergic to everything and you're telling me that this is because there's been medical
00:50:00.040 advancements women don't know how to feed their own children and i stopped reading the internet of 1.00
00:50:04.840 telling me how to do i'm like why am i asking internet like how often i should feed my infant this
00:50:09.220 is so weird i'm in some weird simulation where we've let go of our our instinct our our divine
00:50:15.360 instinct and so no i actually think this is not progress and i think that when you get these tech
00:50:20.860 lords that come in and tell you how great it's going to be when your car is going to be able to
00:50:26.060 drive itself i just think no thank you excellent if you're describing degeneration degeneration almost
00:50:33.380 by definition is a decomposition down to the smallest unit that's what happens when things degenerate if
00:50:39.200 you degenerate down to the level of the individual you have no cohesion you know have no elders you
00:50:43.660 have no wise woman that's going to tell you how to grow vegetables and to encourage you how to look 1.00
00:50:49.040 after your children no multi-generational relationships no true family no community
00:50:54.240 ancestry so important it's yes you're quite right you're quite right this idea of dependency is
00:51:00.860 important because we are a hundred percent dependent on our lord and creator again saint francis regarded
00:51:06.500 dependency in its uh i understand in its latin root i'm certainly obviously not a scholar of latin means
00:51:12.180 hung upon and saint francis apparently would sometimes like a landscape artist stand upon his head to look
00:51:18.260 at the vistas to get a new perspective so that he didn't so he began to question his environment
00:51:23.580 so suddenly the masonry and tall towers of assisi looked suddenly not solid and permanent but but by
00:51:31.380 the very fact of their weight hanging upside down the masonry and towers looked suddenly fragile elegant
00:51:37.800 delicate capable of falling if you've ever looked at jupiter and his moons through a telescope you will
00:51:44.760 see that it looks so fragile out there these vast entities these great spatial objects hung upon the
00:51:52.060 moment once it would have been natural for us to depend entirely on god to have moments of recognition
00:51:57.800 acknowledgement and prayer before every meal before making love before embarking on a business
00:52:02.460 negotiation now all things are profane everything desacralized everything cast out and yet look at its
00:52:09.880 results we have created new gods we are dependent now on the state uh when back in the glorious days
00:52:16.420 of my communism and anarchy that you disrupted that fateful day on that visit i was familiar with an
00:52:21.920 anarchist saying that um they we have been de-skilled there was a time where men would know how to fix
00:52:27.740 their car women know how to make food or you know and of course that i'm not saying that you have to be 1.00
00:52:31.760 entirely defined by sexism in matters of that nature but the idea yes that we don't have to feed
00:52:37.020 ourselves they want to create false dependency what is our natural state with our relationship
00:52:41.640 with god dependence we are dependent on god they want us dependent on them you are right we're one
00:52:46.680 solar flare away one power cut away from savagery from the savagery that in a sense legitimizes their 0.78
00:52:53.360 control not only that candace like think of what is unconsciously being inculcated that your body
00:53:00.040 isn't a sanctuary a temple did you not know that your body is a temple your body can feed your baby
00:53:05.520 your body is perfect you don't need to give that job to nestle and they encourage you to pollute it 0.57
00:53:11.340 you know you're drinking and making it sexy like you know wine culture for women which is obviously 1.00
00:53:16.740 aimed at like oh it's so classy if you'd have a glass of wine i mean i'm just so conscious of this
00:53:20.620 stuff now and i'm telling you mankind is growing increasingly incapable increasingly inefficient and at
00:53:27.280 the same exact time that we're being told that we've never been more efficient i'll give you another
00:53:31.420 example anecdotally is so i was going to this cafe every day when i lived in philadelphia
00:53:34.740 and i every single day would drive i put it where it was in my gps and i would drive about three miles
00:53:39.940 to it i got about six months and i realized i don't know how to get to this cafe i keep putting it into
00:53:44.620 my ways and i keep looking at the phone to drive this cafe but like i've been doing this for three
00:53:48.000 months i should know how to get to the cafe so one day i said i'm gonna put my phone away and try to get
00:53:51.660 to this cafe and i had to within two days i learned how to get there but i've come so reliant
00:53:56.440 on the tech go left here go right here that it could it's plausible for six months i've driven to
00:54:02.180 a cafe and i don't know where it is on the map that's getting dumber tech is making us dumber
00:54:05.820 because we're becoming more and more reliant on tech which then creates a problem when you have
00:54:09.920 these tech lords who realize that like they're selling us it's going to be easy it's going to be so
00:54:13.660 much easier just let let ways do the thinking for you even ai the answers have been so wrong i played
00:54:18.980 this game my husband he's like well this is supposed to be a really good ai um and i don't
00:54:22.580 remember which one it was they've all got their own names now there's grok there's just this guy
00:54:25.460 whatever um and i said let's ask it a question that we know the answer to i mean i have so many times
00:54:30.420 it's been patently wrong about me what like would you ask it well so there was for whatever reason
00:54:35.700 when grok first got started it was convinced i was jewish which is quite hilarious sorry that my
00:54:41.480 husband that my husband was jewish and they got this information because all it is obviously it's
00:54:46.280 scraping information from the internet so that just means that it gives the same power to the
00:54:51.880 new york post and if they say something is true then it's true so if you say is canon so anti-semitic
00:54:56.080 well what has been published the most is it a yes or a no then they'll explain to you why it's true
00:54:59.480 based on scraping the data from the people that have the most power to create the data in the first
00:55:03.620 place so it's nonsense yeah people were arguing with me online telling me that my husband was jewish and
00:55:08.340 i was going but he's not i mean it's fine if he is but he's not and then at some point they
00:55:12.360 realized and then they ai corrected it but people will be relying on that and going well it's it's ai
00:55:17.740 so it can't be wrong and it's like no it can be wrong okay if it had scraped all the data during
00:55:23.380 covid about whether the vaccines were safe or whether the vaccines were going to keep you safe
00:55:27.520 from covid it was going to tell you yes you have to think like you have to do this by yourself you 0.92
00:55:32.500 cannot rely on technology it's making us stupid and i am it's one of the things that concerns me the 0.97
00:55:37.880 most it's like people can't even read they don't even have the attention span to sit down and read 1.00
00:55:43.740 a book cover to cover anymore our children are becoming increasingly more dumb with every generation 0.96
00:55:48.740 and so i am like i think the greatest generation was my granddad's generation you know i think we've 0.99
00:55:53.300 kind of gotten really stupid yeah but we needn't yield to it we needn't yield we can be fueled again 0.87
00:55:59.600 there is a revival happening we are participating in the revival you know how to grow your food even now 0.99
00:56:04.320 i'm going to go straight from here to a garden center i'm going to buy myself a packet of carrots
00:56:09.180 i'm going to empty whatever sacks of fertilizer lindsey graham is carrying in his trousers by 1.00
00:56:14.440 whatever means he prefers and i have no opinion on what that might be and i will grow me some carrots
00:56:19.240 and i'll paint a missile-like shape on it and i'll go right back to lindsey and lindsey you can put
00:56:22.940 that wherever you want to darling yeah but have you ever hunted but do you think about that like if you
00:56:26.680 just turned off all the lights wherever you live in in england if they turn off all the electricity
00:56:30.880 like how long are you surviving listen i am friends with bear grills okay bear grills is a
00:56:36.220 bold christian who remained friends with me even as the very nation itself turned like a sort of a
00:56:40.700 yawping praying mantis to devour one of its great sons me in this instance and i would say that i'm
00:56:46.800 not good enough not good enough but listen to this it's what they want to create the modalities are
00:56:51.740 safety and convenience we're going to keep you safe and this is for your convenience these are the
00:56:56.300 tools that the beast will use to lure you in it's not going to tell you i'm oppressing you
00:57:00.720 because i'm a sort of a new bureaucratic hitler i'm some fusion of orwell kafka and huxley
00:57:06.440 offering you sort of a comfortable uteral safety the distraction of the soma and the unending
00:57:11.880 bureaucracy and shifting rules and the lawfare and the confusion of course it's not going to tell you
00:57:16.480 that it they want i believe candace to turn the whole world into an airport full of checkpoints and 1.00
00:57:22.320 measures that are continually undertaken rituals voided of meaning voided of ceremonial power
00:57:28.840 continual hollow removal of shoes take this vaccine sign this declare your obedience to this
00:57:35.900 only then when they have created an environment where sterility and sanitary conditions are above
00:57:41.420 all else then then they can do conduct whatever final experimentation of population reduction
00:57:47.060 they're interested in because the truth is i believe that the epochs traveled thusly agricultural
00:57:53.000 revolution man masters nature industrial revolution man masters matter technological revolution
00:57:57.820 man masters attention and consciousness itself they want absolute control over attention and
00:58:02.900 consciousness the problem is of course that you have to multiply agriculture by industry because
00:58:07.140 then you've got industrial agriculture we're moving so far away from the time where you might
00:58:11.160 say do you know what i'd like to check out this system i'd like our own community where we can
00:58:14.800 grow and rear our own food trade where only necessary use technology perhaps we'll use
00:58:19.320 cryptocurrencies to parallel trade and parallel barter and use the miracle of modern contemporary
00:58:24.880 technology to maximize the freedom of the individual that we may worship god that we may live by god's
00:58:30.620 principles not by the de facto false idols mollucs and bales that they're setting up for us to worship 0.99
00:58:35.760 because if you can have airbnb and aggregate empty hotel rooms and if you can have uber and suddenly you
00:58:42.060 can centrally coagulate and yet somehow democratize the taxi cab all for the offshore profits of various
00:58:47.400 companies that benefit for it then surely this very same technology could be used to run communities to have
00:58:52.780 true democracy and if what people want is nationalism they can have it and if what they want is sharia law
00:58:57.600 they can have it and if what people want is lgbtq plus gender fluidity then they can have it people
00:59:02.840 can live now in communities according to their will me i will follow the path of christ which includes
00:59:08.080 non-judgment and wherever possible trying my best in all my failing to move towards love and forgiveness
00:59:13.160 and loving one another as he loved us that means up to the point of death if required up to the point of
00:59:18.480 death and this then might mean that we can diffuse some of this ongoing never-ending constant
00:59:23.900 catawalling clap trap cacophony of argument that defines our culture these days and move into
00:59:29.320 something like a solution which it seems like you're ready to do that your family are ready to do that my
00:59:33.780 family are ready to do and i'm like why do we want to fetishize the areas where we disagree why do we
00:59:38.280 want to fetishize that um it doesn't actually matter to me what all these movie stars or geopolitical
00:59:44.060 powers are doing i just would like to be able to happily grow a carrot tend to an animal and raise
00:59:50.120 my children according to my beliefs yeah you know i think one of the biggest cancers to society and i
00:59:55.180 say this as a a former feminist you know when i was young of course i think most people when they're
00:59:59.260 young are on the left and i was a feminist because of whatever i was learning in school that caught me
01:00:04.740 up in that feminist simulation and now that i'm a mother and it i think it's just quite evil it's like
01:00:09.780 it's the thing that gives the women that gives women the most clarity the most perspective the 1.00
01:00:14.440 most wisdom it's the happiness of the family unit and you're being told nope nope you got to compete
01:00:21.640 with man you don't want to have children suspend children for as long as possible take all of these
01:00:25.680 horrible toxic birth control pills because you know you need to have control over your body because
01:00:30.080 men don't have to get pregnant and when i reflect on that i just think this is such an intentional evil
01:00:34.620 this is not by accident you know this is when i talk about these elements of anti-christ right
01:00:39.220 what are we talking about here where you're you're telling a woman you know she's got to compete
01:00:42.860 with her own she's got to be at war with her own biology you know in order to stick it to the man 1.00
01:00:46.800 she's got to be at war with her own biology and at the same time you're telling men that they have
01:00:50.540 to act like women which is incredible you're telling women to act like men while you're saying to men 0.98
01:00:54.700 being masculine is toxic it's toxic masculinity these terms that get you to reject your nature and
01:01:00.480 anything that is at war with nature it's necessarily of course at war with god and so i think deeply about
01:01:05.520 that and there are so many things that i've done since i'm saying really the last six years that
01:01:10.260 i've done because i recognize how wrong my prior perspectives were i mean even like going and
01:01:16.980 learning how to hunt in africa the importance of actually catching your own food like you you must
01:01:23.460 do this you must do this at one point even if you don't keep this up it how sacred that process is
01:01:29.060 and how it brings you so much closer i don't even like shop at the grocery store anymore i go to the
01:01:33.160 farmer's market like there's something that is more spiritual about that experience of knowing
01:01:38.180 the farmers and the ranchers and then when i see how we're all being driven and we're told this is
01:01:42.520 for your convenience yes you know this experience is for your convenience the grocery store is for
01:01:46.820 your convenience and no i think it's it's it's very intentional and it's pulling us away from
01:01:51.420 like i mean there's just the spirit the the spirit of christ what do we do for like say women that 1.00
01:01:57.920 will find being a mother difficult because obviously it is very difficult it is difficult
01:02:02.200 and how do we then afford that or what about women that don't feel that that's their identity or their 1.00
01:02:08.280 role how do we create a culture that accommodates lovingly the variety within these general categories
01:02:15.260 you know it's really interesting so i've yet of course i've met tons of women who say i don't want 1.00
01:02:19.540 to have kids i want to have kids and then typically what happens i would say for the overall majority
01:02:23.260 of them is they hit about 28 years old and biology just comes online like when they when they uh speak
01:02:28.460 about suddenly a woman realizes she's looking at a baby and they've gotten a lot cuter something 0.54
01:02:32.240 happens biologically in your mid-20s where that changes um but i think for the women that that 1.00
01:02:37.460 doesn't change for the first question i have is like what birth control are you on because there
01:02:41.260 have been all these studies that show because what are you doing when you're when you're on birth
01:02:44.660 control you're stopping your body from going through this natural process you're becoming
01:02:48.800 something other it's like it's other than what you would feel naturally if you were not loaded up
01:02:54.200 with all of these pills it's not a natural thing for women to go i just don't want to have kids 1.00
01:02:57.600 it's a natural for a man procreation is the most natural thing in the world what are we doing here
01:03:02.240 right if we're not procreating and so something's gone wrong i think and then for the very few and i
01:03:07.780 mean i've maybe met one person in my life and it's truly because of trauma that they suffered
01:03:13.340 that they don't want to procreate it has more to do with i think i'm going to become this which i think a lot
01:03:18.660 of people go through am i going to be like my mother like my father why didn't my mother want
01:03:21.960 me i'm i was adopted whatever that is that's typically like i said a trauma that needs to be
01:03:26.240 resolved um and i i don't push it on anyone because i everyone's on their own journey i just know what
01:03:31.540 happens on the other end of that the women you get these examples like chelsea handler who like wrote 1.00
01:03:36.300 a book about how funny it was when she got all of these abortions who and i genuinely feel so sad for
01:03:42.100 her where she now openly speaks about how she's on all of these anxiety pills and you know trying to
01:03:47.120 find meaning in her life and meaning was was given to her twice and you wrote a whole book about
01:03:52.680 rejecting that you know rejecting that meaning and so i feel i feel very sad for people like that
01:03:58.000 because then i think what do you fill that cup up with and that's not to say of course many people
01:04:01.460 are struggling with fertility issues but they want they aspire to family it's so natural to want to
01:04:05.800 procreate so when you find somebody that doesn't i just go okay what's going on here i have a lot of
01:04:10.580 questions and not up for me to answer those questions or to pry any further but i i think it's important
01:04:15.600 for people with families to speak out on the gift of it and yes you're tired it's exhausting and
01:04:21.420 i'm i barely slept last night you know i've got an infant but that exhaustion the difference between
01:04:29.120 going behind and sitting behind a computer and working for the man and because your infant is
01:04:33.660 crying because you're the only thing that makes sense to him like i hope you realize how beautiful
01:04:38.460 that exhaustion is like there's such beauty in in parenting that you you can't really describe to
01:04:43.480 people until until they get there yes we have abandoned so much it's like we have willingly
01:04:49.060 taken on the manacles and shackles of worldliness being told that it somehow represents our freedom
01:04:55.880 when laying upon the earth as it says in the gnostic and non-canonical gospel of thomas is the kingdom
01:05:03.580 of heaven that it is available to us and that isn't the same as a kind of bland homogeneity that there
01:05:09.480 are a variety of ways that a woman might be a mother or man might be a father or elect not to
01:05:13.460 follow that path for all but it is nice to know that we're not living in a post-modern relativistic
01:05:18.580 world where anything can be true and that you might decide on this truth or that identity that
01:05:24.980 there is a purpose a teleology that there is a force a cradle a holding a heralding that's taking place
01:05:32.080 and certainly my personal experiences since becoming a father have been oh right like that mad delusion
01:05:40.200 that i toiled under that what i am and what i want is the most important thing in the world and
01:05:45.700 whether that means that i've got to become famous or own a bunch of money or control what other people
01:05:50.820 think about me or make people laugh the whole time i mean it's it's kind of difficult to shake off that
01:05:56.220 programming entirely and i revert to it sometimes i'm selfish a thousand times a day i'm sure but what i at
01:06:02.540 least have now is an understanding that there is a path that there is a way that appears as we walk
01:06:08.740 it through him that if you wear his yoke if you walk alongside him if in the moment moment to moment you
01:06:14.460 seek first the kingdom of heaven then righteousness is given to you that i can be a father to my son and
01:06:21.240 to my daughters and i can be a husband to my wife i could i have some purpose here here in the infinite
01:06:28.080 and the unknowable why would you accept their gods why would you accept their gods of consuming how
01:06:33.380 come what are people doing are we waiting for our last gasp before going oh my god i just spent my
01:06:38.560 whole life worshiping these sort of illusion of who i thought i was or what i was supposed to be doing
01:06:42.500 when it's all here abundantly it's not to say that it's not frightening and fraught with trepidation
01:06:48.260 and even the just sort of mundane business of being the father of mabel and peggy and herbie
01:06:54.900 sometimes just an exhausting weight an exhausting weight but usually there's some lessening there's
01:07:01.620 some part of myself that i need to let go of some selfish thing i'm holding on to that
01:07:07.580 needs to be relinquished for me to be the man they need me to be yeah men need to lead households for 0.93
01:07:13.740 a reason i mean the changes in my husband from when we got engaged to when we had our children it's just
01:07:18.480 incredible you can't even i couldn't even find the words to describe it i think just the weight of
01:07:23.580 realizing like i'm a father like i think men need that weight of i am a father think about like
01:07:28.800 that's like incredible and now my actions are going to impact this child and especially when
01:07:34.700 the children kind of come into their own and they understand like you're their father because they
01:07:39.400 at least i have three boys and they think that like my my husband hung the moon and the stars like
01:07:46.440 they're convinced you know it's like he's just like daddy i mean daddy daddy daddy like it's amazing
01:07:49.820 and that weight of that of well your children think you are just perfect and you're superman
01:07:55.980 you're this and everything's fantastic you need that you need that weight to push you to be a better
01:08:00.860 person i think and so it scares me when people say i don't want children i don't want family even if
01:08:05.980 people who say i don't want children you don't want family you don't want a husband you don't want
01:08:09.200 somebody else to be accountable to that's what what does that say about you you don't want to be you
01:08:13.460 want to be accountable to nothing and no one but yourself probably not on the best trajectory
01:08:18.380 it might be the equivalent of trusting nestle milk over your own breast milk that you sort of can
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01:10:32.200 slash owens again that's americanfinancing.net slash owens i want to ask you a few things if i
01:10:37.760 may even know it's your podcast am i allowed to yeah of course how come you've gotten involved in
01:10:41.420 like celebrity type stuff you know like um and and how like but some of the big stories i've seen you
01:10:46.680 talk about and i'm fascinated by your work and i admire it and admire the way you conduct yourself
01:10:50.840 is like say like say something like blake blake lively i don't know even what that means blake lively
01:10:55.940 but like so and and say something like i obviously know what justin bieber is because i i like justin bieber i feel
01:11:01.540 for him i feel like in a way he's the first ultra modern celebrity coming out of youtube just being
01:11:05.860 sort of latcheted and parasited and pulled apart and he's clearly going through something so profound
01:11:11.060 and powerful and i've sort of prayed for him and pray that he gets the protection lord that he uh that
01:11:15.420 he evidently needs why is it you've got more interest in celebrity stuff and how is it like i like it when
01:11:20.300 you do these investigative things how is it that you sort of give the wording really get yourself into
01:11:26.000 get your teeth into bridget macron's cock or something how is it that like those stories 1.00
01:11:31.720 sort of capture your attention and what is this sort of shift in you i know that's a somewhat 0.97
01:11:35.940 political story and it sort of pertains perhaps the globalist blackmail and those kind of things
01:11:39.520 but the celebrity ones maybe you'll explain that well so there's a couple of things about the
01:11:43.300 celebrity ones the first thing is you know i want people to wake up to what hollywood actually is
01:11:48.680 right so when you see people like ryan reynolds and blake lively and oh it's so glamorous and it's
01:11:53.380 perfect and then you get this person who just drops all of the text messages and the plotting and
01:11:58.080 you know the narcissism it's important for people to see that you know to to recognize um if you will
01:12:04.140 just who these who these people actually are versus hold them up as moral icons what is it blake
01:12:11.280 lively's had an affair or ryan reynolds no gosh you don't know anything that's incredible no no they
01:12:16.000 just kind of avoid it they just tried to kick a puppy i mean they're they she was doing a movie sign
01:12:20.340 on into a movie the guy justin baldoni was a major fan of hers loved hers he was i mean he self
01:12:25.920 flagellating to get to the best woman on his get this woman on his film he cared deeply about the
01:12:30.200 book to bring it to life and he wasn't obviously an a-lister i had never heard his name before this
01:12:34.660 sorry um and yeah i guess for whatever evil reason blake and ryan wanted to take over his home his whole
01:12:42.080 little film production and uh how they orchestrated this with their star power like you manipulating them
01:12:47.320 like we're friends with taylor swift we'll do this we'll do that reading it was quite stunning is the
01:12:50.780 first thing and it provided a an opportunity for us to really say this is what hollywood is like
01:12:55.940 behind the scenes you'll never see this this closely again but the other element was this was how she
01:12:59.960 tried to do it was with this fake you know she came out and plotted with the new york times to come 1.00
01:13:04.460 up with the story that he had you know sexually harassed her on set well unbeknownst to her she said you
01:13:09.340 know this we were filming this scene but there was um no audio well unbeknownst to her there was audio
01:13:14.200 when they were running this so he then dropped the audio and she just lied i mean it's just it's
01:13:18.380 just crazy that she just literally to take this guy down was going to just meet to him for funsies 0.97
01:13:23.000 and he's like if you go through his instagram he's he's literally like the nicest he's just like how
01:13:27.520 can i be nicer to women going back and examining myself he's got this beautiful little family and
01:13:32.020 we why him i don't know because he was weak and they could do it um and so what scares me about that
01:13:36.980 is that i have three sons so i'm very invested in cases about the me too and that kind of attaches why
01:13:41.220 i'm interested in the harvey weinstein case even though harvey weinstein was definitively immoral
01:13:46.460 um cheated on his wife and stands for did a lot of things that stand against what i believe in
01:13:51.320 but he didn't rape those girls there's no question in my mind they didn't rape these girls 0.77
01:13:55.080 you read the emails it's crazy this was what it is tale as old as time i've got power you're sexy
01:14:00.160 what's the trade going on here and they wanted parts and then when their careers didn't take off
01:14:04.900 and it became became you know um advantageous for them to play the victim they did it i don't like 0.97
01:14:09.660 the me too movement okay if you want to be a prostitute be a prostitute but don't renege on 0.67
01:14:14.560 that deal when you don't become angelina the next angelina jolie and so the me too issue is very 0.96
01:14:20.520 important for me as as a mother to three sons um there has to be justice for men you can't just
01:14:25.020 just you can't just call a man a rapist or pretend that you were sexually assaulted because you want
01:14:29.240 something whether that's money success um uh or to write your own consciousness which i think in the
01:14:36.620 example of harvey weinstein you know someone said to me if he had looked like brad pitt they probably
01:14:40.940 would have been fine with it but they kind of were like i'm doing this thing i'm sleeping with harvey
01:14:44.840 weinstein what do i get in return they got nothing in return for it so i don't like these things and
01:14:49.120 so the blake lively case is a mixture of the me too movement and also just being able to shine a
01:14:53.800 light a light on hollywood babylon you don't like phony morality that's it isn't it it's like when
01:14:58.600 people are pretending to be moral and there is no morality well obviously i've got some sort of
01:15:02.480 personal investment because i've as you obviously workers thanks for sticking up for me being
01:15:06.800 accused of untrue really serious sex crimes and i suppose i can't go into it with too much
01:15:14.720 detail and you've not asked me to but the fact of the matter is is that i recognize that my behavior
01:15:22.400 was morally you know you shouldn't be sleeping around if you're certainly if you're a really
01:15:26.240 successful person it's really easy to sleep with women and there is a power imbalance there that 1.00
01:15:31.100 a man of god would be wise to and would not exploit but that i think is very different from
01:15:38.220 overriding people's will charm and fame are ways in which people's will is directed like and
01:15:47.240 yeah it was all the time they just you know and i grew up with these women i i was working in new 1.00
01:15:52.040 york people see a celebrity they flocked that celebrity women are willing to just so they can say
01:15:56.660 i slept with leonardo dicaprio and i slept with russell brand i i i know what it means to be a
01:16:01.940 woman and by the way that is that is an exchange it's a power that women have right beauty is what 1.00
01:16:09.460 is the story tells over and over again men will lose everything because of a beautiful woman and and
01:16:15.340 people are learning that lesson the hard way you know this is the the helen of troy let's launch
01:16:20.020 the thousand ships for this woman and so men are flawed when they see a beautiful woman and women
01:16:26.620 consciously know that they go into these situations knowing what they're doing and in reviewing the
01:16:31.600 harvey weinty situation it was challenging for me because i assumed he was guilty yeah because there
01:16:35.920 was so much media coverage i'm like well there has to be something there's so many women were speaking 1.00
01:16:38.860 out and then when i actually got down into it and looked into it i was going there's no way they
01:16:43.260 convicted him on this so they have all of these emails you got raped and then for five years you just
01:16:46.880 kept going to see a rapist and and emailing him and saying i love you and it's like come on
01:16:50.880 it's defying common sense here and so i'm i'm sickened by it and the fact that gloria all right
01:16:56.200 is at the center of it i i think michael jackson told the truth about her he was what did he say
01:17:00.280 well he was very much he named names including rabbi schmuley strangely enough and and very much
01:17:05.380 implied that this was a gang that was operating and uh we'll never know beyond that he had a list of
01:17:11.540 six people uh that he had had issues with and gloria all red was on it and i think that woman 0.99
01:17:18.240 is a viper and and you know she should know that hell is an eternity and so your your wins here you
01:17:26.020 think you're taking down people branding people as rapists a sexual accuser so that you can get money
01:17:31.700 and more power for yourself you will meet your maker one day too so even when you're talking about
01:17:36.180 stuff that's somewhat celebrity oriented and say scintillating you're looking at what false morality
01:17:45.500 underlies it so important how it's exploitative and where the power is in it and the way that
01:17:51.440 new morality is often masking itself as virtuous when underneath it yeah i suppose all right so the
01:17:58.060 this is one of the things that became really obvious in covid this is a thing i've thought about
01:18:01.680 again lately is the what underwrites the idea of massive sanctions during covid get in your house
01:18:08.480 six feet apart wear a mask take the vaccine is human life is sacred and anything we can do to
01:18:13.720 protect human life we must do and it's only when you reflect on how those are not the values that
01:18:19.360 the culture sets itself up sets itself up by or abides by that you realize hang on that can't have
01:18:24.320 been true there must have been another reason they were also saying like you know let your grandma die
01:18:27.920 alone so it's anti-family okay it doesn't must stay away from your family it's dangerous tell on
01:18:31.540 your neighbors you know like no sense of community um and we can keep you alive we are a man and we
01:18:36.920 can keep you alive so all you have to do is turn on your screens and we'll tell you what to do
01:18:39.600 and hop on one foot at the grocery store and we'll keep you alive what is it's antichrist that's why
01:18:44.420 i was just like no didn't wear a mask i did i hung out with my family and friends like i'm not going
01:18:49.620 down that way like i am just to me i will stand against that sort of authority because i can see
01:18:54.400 things like that and people were putting you dr fauci signs in their yard i mean like
01:18:59.280 worshiping this man in a way that was terrifying and willing to call and tell on their neighbors and
01:19:05.420 willing to allow their parents and their children to die alone in a hospital for fear that you might
01:19:10.840 catch a virus an invisible virus um and willing to roll up their sleeve to submit their bodies i mean
01:19:16.500 there was an excellent article because george gets the spectator uk the spectator uk is very good
01:19:20.820 and i wish i could find it i know it was written by a woman and she basically said this bears
01:19:25.080 all of the all of the markers of a religion right you know there's a they're sacrificing 0.87
01:19:30.360 they're doing this they're doing that they're they even have what they're wearing like it's on
01:19:34.620 a yarmulke they're wearing the mask it's amazing it was fast it was a great read i should find that
01:19:38.920 article george will have it upstairs somewhere because i was like this is fantastic you should
01:19:41.440 keep this secularism as a religion i suppose if you create a culture where people are not willing
01:19:45.300 to die and kill for what they believe in but are willing to be herded unskilled from one 0.95
01:19:52.160 socially appointed ritual or right to another consuming waiting to die then that's you what you
01:19:58.120 have is a kind of a hive of manageable individuals rather than equipped awakened men and women that
01:20:05.120 know how to hunt how to feed themselves know how to fight how to protect themselves and one another
01:20:10.360 and believe ultimately in the eternal truth recognize we're here temporarily we're going to die
01:20:15.840 so we're not going to spend all our time here just trying to cling on to it making it depending
01:20:20.180 on that which is temporary instead of rightly depending upon that which is eternal the first
01:20:25.200 thing you have to do is dismiss the idea there is no god there is no christ what we have is our
01:20:29.680 religion our faith our orthodoxy yeah and that's why sam harris lost his mind during covid because
01:20:35.460 he's a committed atheist he tours around the world speaking about atheism and debating people and this
01:20:39.640 is why god is not real and so when he thought he could die and this was it he lost his mind he lost
01:20:44.600 his marbles he's like he was in a fragile mental state realized the idea of dying for an atheist 0.65
01:20:51.220 right and so he was willing to submit everything to the state he was telling everybody do this do
01:20:55.440 this do that this is how we're all going to stay alive it's scary you know it's it's and by the way
01:21:00.320 there is no such thing as an atheist obviously and sam harris showed us that there's no such thing as
01:21:04.680 an atheist because he joined the church of covid in four seconds you know replaced his god with the 0.95
01:21:09.920 authority of the state um and participated it everybody like religion is natural right and so
01:21:17.700 if you're going to tell me that somebody doesn't believe in god tell me who it is and i'll show you
01:21:22.320 who their god is right i mean why do you think you have these like protesters vegan protesters the
01:21:27.200 things that they're willing to do right to make a statement that people shouldn't be hunting and
01:21:32.400 you go okay so that's your that's your faith everybody has a faith and that's yours
01:21:36.680 because it's a connection to something eternal and divine yeah you can't have anything all there
01:21:42.540 is is nihilism people misunderstand the argument against atheism is that people seem to think that
01:21:47.340 what the claim of religion is is that oh you think that without god i can't have ethics and morals
01:21:53.360 it's like no without god you can't claim that your morals or ethics are based on anything other than
01:22:00.240 what you think and lo and behold look how they change the left used to believe this now they believe
01:22:05.740 that they used to believe in free speech now they don't believe in free speech the right used to
01:22:08.960 believe in this but now they don't because you can't make gods of man you can't create
01:22:13.400 permanence you can't create false idols you can't make a god with your own hands god is here all
01:22:19.360 pervading ever present the very thing that you use to deduce there isn't a god is god your sentience
01:22:24.360 your awareness your participation in eternity the fact that you live at the altar of the present
01:22:29.200 moment that is god in real live action right now and when you use that facility that great gift
01:22:35.080 of divinity that divine spark and flow that living water to denounce and deny god's own existence you
01:22:40.660 are participating in false idolatry and devil worship without god you can't make a claim for
01:22:45.220 animal rights for women's rights for the environment for anything because nothing means anything there is 0.83
01:22:49.000 no meaning other than that which we derive from the observation of patterns and the very fact that
01:22:52.540 there are patterns is a further indication of the hallmark of god because otherwise would you why
01:22:56.700 would you recognize mathematics or music or geometry what would these things be across the infinite
01:23:02.600 blur what would these patterns amount to so there is no argument against it and this is a revival i
01:23:09.140 think we're in one and we are and that's why i'm actually against psychiatry and i don't know if
01:23:13.300 you've ever gone down the sigmund freud rabbit hole you haven't you should the modern psychology
01:23:17.940 oh it's give us a line mommy's looking sexy oh it's so much worse and it's so much darker 1.00
01:23:22.720 your mom does look sexy if you do enough coke oh my god i think i would have sex with my mother 1.00
01:23:28.180 his drug addiction was the least of it was the least of it really yeah it really was it's there 0.99
01:23:34.200 it was usually what about jung um well i haven't read anything about him but i know that he kind of
01:23:39.360 departed from archetypal cartography there is a deblimus of blind men inaccessible great mystery 0.76
01:23:43.740 well that is accessible actually it's permeating everything but freud the what the cocaine and 0.75
01:23:48.260 and mommy's looking hot and just like you know covering child pedophilia for all of his homies 1.00
01:23:54.520 that were pedophiles sure um 1000 real by the way yeah yeah uh discovered in the freud archives by the
01:24:01.160 director and then he tried to ring the bell and the psychiatric community was like you must not do
01:24:04.780 this this is gonna yeah this is gonna ruin everything it's gonna show that like we're just
01:24:08.580 all frauds and we're making stuff up because we want to um actually have we see ourselves as gods and
01:24:14.200 we want to have access to people by telling them what their selves should be i think it's you know
01:24:18.620 you go to psych psychology i know it works for some people in therapy but a lot of times it's all about
01:24:23.700 you you you you you you this stuff sure you can come across a good i'm sure you can come across a
01:24:27.820 good psychologist and a good therapist but more often than not a lot of the ills that we have in
01:24:31.580 society today are because people are constantly being validated validated across from the psychologist
01:24:36.280 and this is who you are this is what you are and that's how we end up with transgenderism and you can
01:24:40.100 actually be 20 different selves if you want um and there's no there's no truth everything's
01:24:44.340 subjective but i i had wondered with this struggle that because i think it conflicts i think modern
01:24:53.020 psychology conflicts with christ because it was intended to uh to conflict with christ um if you
01:24:57.960 get into what simon ford believed in but i wonder if that was kind of the struggle that jordan peterson
01:25:02.680 was having with committing to christ it's like wait because psychology tells me that i'm able to
01:25:07.880 comprehend and i would love to ask him this question you know i'm able to comprehend the
01:25:11.860 mind i am my own god i'm in control i would imagine that a psychiatrist or a psychologist would
01:25:16.680 really struggle um to submit themselves well you know it isn't obvious to me at all candace that
01:25:22.580 that god isn't real absolutely i mean of course yeah i mean really good i started to feel like it was
01:25:28.940 being disrespectful to him because i do this is one of the things that i'm thinking in this space that
01:25:33.340 we occupy where we have these voices and this access where you're doing so incredibly well
01:25:37.980 we are so potently brave and brilliant we are such an example of all that is wonderful and
01:25:43.000 wise and bold and sometimes capricious in the feminine that i wonder candace if we can
01:25:51.460 deliberately participate in the unity of his church in love that i was told that we need truth in fact in
01:26:00.520 the ephesians prayer the belt of truth has to go on first we have to gird ourselves in truth before we
01:26:06.140 receive the grace of the breastplate of righteousness before the good news can be on our feet and the
01:26:10.340 shield on our arm and the sword of the spirit in our hand and the helmet of salvation that can protect
01:26:14.640 us from nefarious thoughts what i wonder how we can be in this space that derives so much from
01:26:21.260 conflict and argument and not lean into it you know like what the spats and the rivalry i don't think
01:26:28.920 it's rival i think it's again what i'm hitting up on there is actually something that you and i were
01:26:32.380 just talking about how difficult it is to submit full stop no matter who you are how difficult it
01:26:36.780 is to submit man versus self is is the most difficult struggle right and that's why i thought about how
01:26:42.580 interesting it is like this is the struggle it's it's versus your own mind right and so i think that
01:26:47.940 entire field is saying well you now comprehend the mind you can't ever comprehend the mind you i can't
01:26:52.740 ever comprehend my mind it's constantly having to check yourself and check your ego and submit
01:26:56.540 and and so i'm i'm thinking about it more philosophically of like this it's it is a
01:27:01.180 struggle to accept that you are kind of nothing you know in a way you know you're kind of yeah that's
01:27:09.760 hard it's a tough pill for anyone to struggle that's why i'm working so hard look at all these things i've
01:27:15.600 done yeah and i and that's why i think it's like you but i was in sarah marshall but that is that is
01:27:22.660 actually what brings i think what could bring everyone together it's like we're all so hung up
01:27:26.560 on that ego and believing in our title actor phd you know doctor i mean whatever it is
01:27:35.080 graduated from harvard oxford whatever it is it's very hard in and especially in this matrix where we
01:27:44.720 we give out acolytes for those things like you are an a-list actor you even have lists now a-list b-list
01:27:50.660 c-list actor which one are you are you d-list are you you know megan markle's a d-list they say and 0.99
01:27:55.420 this person's is i'm not in the alphabet anymore i'm in hieroglyphs it's like a drawing of a like
01:28:00.240 sort of a bloke with a bird's head yeah it's still a-list you know yeah people just love yourself
01:28:04.380 it is still you're still a-list but this is the point and i think it's hard for us especially like
01:28:09.600 i don't know just coming out of what did you go to university did you get a degree we're constantly
01:28:13.900 looking for these kind of meaningless things to tell us hey if you ain't read the great divorce by c.s
01:28:18.340 lewis yet you should read it because it seems that the struggle that we have in embracing and
01:28:21.660 entering heaven is our unwillingness to relinquish our attachments to our human identity in just the
01:28:25.820 manner that you're describing that c.s lewis describes an imaginary journey from hell which
01:28:29.520 is a gray dreary place actually rather than spectacularly horrific they go to heaven and
01:28:34.940 everything there is sort of hard and like it's almost like you would need not more ethereal
01:28:39.160 brilliant uh authorial choice by c.s lewis everything is denser and stronger and harder
01:28:44.720 they encounter entities and angels there as well as the other denizens of this hellish region
01:28:49.340 that he describes the bus journey from and the arrival in heaven and many people can't anyone
01:28:54.000 they're all invited to be in heaven come come to heaven come and be in heaven but people are like
01:28:58.120 no i'm not letting go of that they're like sort of caught up in their relationship sometimes they
01:29:01.340 meet people that they knew on earth they're like yeah i know but i loved you i like that everyone's
01:29:05.860 willing to relinquish and enter into paradise the obstacle to paradise is our unwillingness precisely
01:29:11.040 to let go of that identity that we've got an altar and on it might be personal accolade or some form of
01:29:16.700 personal identification or identity and if you can't let go of that then you're in trouble that's
01:29:20.460 why isn't identity politics ridiculous because instead of saying you are important you're beautiful
01:29:24.980 you're perfect yes you are valuable but not because of some temporary characteristic because of the
01:29:30.140 vessel you inhabit you're divine important because you are made in the image of your creator and you're
01:29:34.700 part of this family and you're perfect and you are loved and you are forgiven come come in come in
01:29:39.640 no i'm staying here i want to stay here i was in sarah marshall like we were like clinging on to
01:29:44.820 some crap trinket we all do it and we all do it and that's kind of the point and i think like we
01:29:49.400 have to you you have to kind of experience that you i always say like you know you got to recognize 0.99
01:29:55.020 that you suck a little bit you know it's good to just that's why i love having sisters because 0.97
01:29:59.340 they just keep me humble you know oh my sister yeah then we make fun of each other all the time 0.99
01:30:03.220 we don't take we don't take ourselves so seriously you have to have and toddlers will especially
01:30:08.200 keep you checked if if you think that you're anything hang out with some toddlers they say
01:30:12.660 everything that's on their mind the first thing that's on their mind about how you look this that
01:30:15.980 um and i think they'd like to pick something off yeah just like a toddler yeah like if you've got
01:30:20.640 something on you they'll pick that off and actually something i meant to text you was somebody had
01:30:25.780 commented when i had covered your situation in the uk and said that they thanked you for their
01:30:30.860 actually said it was her daughter i'll send you i actually screenshot it but forgot to hit send but
01:30:35.240 like basically her daughter owed her sobriety to you and i just thought that was of everything that
01:30:40.800 could have been said about you like oh i love him in this love and that i was like this is like
01:30:44.580 such a beautiful thing that she was sharing the story in a very long comment about how her daughter
01:30:48.120 just really struggled and then like i don't know why i don't know if you maybe if she watched
01:30:52.940 a podcast she wasn't clear on what it was but she owed her sobriety to you and she said that
01:30:56.380 she saw you at like she was in the same because you did the 12 i think you 12 step program whatever it is
01:31:02.040 and something that you said or did there completely changed your life and i was like this is the most
01:31:06.400 beautiful thing i've ever read and i don't know why i didn't hit send i think i have adhd or something
01:31:09.740 but i screenshot it so i have it in my phone i'll give it to you it might be that vaccine injury you've
01:31:13.480 got making you just making you forgetful so beautiful but i didn't send it and in mind moved
01:31:18.320 on now but there are a lot of people that said that in the comments about you and i think that's the
01:31:22.020 highest compliment that somebody can i think can give you and i'm wondering how did you by the way
01:31:28.080 get sober like what was the thing that how long have you been sober for by the way 22 and a half 0.85
01:31:32.720 years and i got sober because it got so desperate in fact i'm an idiot the only way i do anything 0.56
01:31:36.860 the only way i ever improve myself is through absolute desperation and total breaking point
01:31:41.680 at breaking point i will stop drinking and taking drugs i will surrender to christ if there is enough
01:31:48.160 external pressure if i'm literally crucified if i'm forced to recognize that my identity is temporary
01:31:53.580 transient and impermanent i can't look after the most important things in my life like my
01:31:58.220 son and my son's well-being and his medical he had had heart surgery when he was just born and
01:32:02.860 it was it just exposed me to the limitations of my power which are narrow how ridiculous to think
01:32:09.840 that i'm important how ridiculous to think that i'm like a god how ridiculous to think that there's
01:32:13.720 any accolade that anyone could accrue or acquire that would mean anything at all so i was lucky
01:32:18.440 enough to meet people that knew that someone like me could never take another drink or ever do drugs
01:32:24.940 and the fact is is that most people that drink and drug take drug drugs addictively candace are
01:32:29.480 indeed looking for god are indeed looking for a spiritual solution and the 12-step solution is a
01:32:34.680 spiritual solution it focuses not on the substance actually but on the self it tells you you're
01:32:39.420 worshipping yourself that's what you're doing and in order to sustain this mad system of worship
01:32:45.280 you need to drink and take drugs and firstly abstinence like once you force someone who's 0.53
01:32:50.700 a dependent on dependent look at that word dependent on drugs and alcohol then you feel
01:32:55.280 terrible and bare and naked and raw and then you have to believe it's possible that you can change
01:33:00.980 you do this somewhat from the community but also by investigating yourself where you will recognize
01:33:04.720 that you've always known there was a god you've always known it somewhere then you make a decision
01:33:09.080 to allow that god to run your life under the guidance and tutelage of other people that you know
01:33:13.460 are acting on the basis of these principles that's why we have scripture that's why we have clerics
01:33:16.780 and priests and people that are ordained and that are able to carry that that kind of weight burden
01:33:22.700 responsibility and duty so you admit there's a problem you stop drinking you believe it's possible
01:33:27.000 to change you make a decision to turn your will and your life over to the care of god you belong to a
01:33:31.740 community you inventory yourself and work out where you've been going wrong you have to be 100% honest
01:33:36.120 about everything you've ever done every resentment you've got against other people and yourself there is an
01:33:40.780 ideology 12 step recovery is a miracle actually it is ordained it is anointed it is divinely inspired
01:33:47.900 it's an american folk religion in fact that is provides a perfect pathway for people that are
01:33:53.100 obsessed and attached because what is addiction other than attachment attachment to pornography
01:33:57.580 attachment to food attachment to drugs attachment to sex it shows you the way to bring those false
01:34:02.580 idols down and to recognize that you were made for love that you were made for service and it's a slow
01:34:07.440 turgid journey but the people that are addicts they're devoted anyway they're dedicated anyway
01:34:12.740 they've got no choice where where recovery goes wrong is the same way that the church can go wrong
01:34:16.720 is seeing itself as secondary to the culture when the church starts wearing the livery and the flags of
01:34:21.920 the culture is in trouble whether that's nazism or some well-intended liberal idea if it starts 0.91
01:34:27.200 flying flags other there's only one flag the flag of calgary that's the only flag that matters to a
01:34:33.580 christian and i feel that the 12 steps is miraculous precisely because it tells you you are a spiritual
01:34:39.260 being you've not been told that you've been told you're a material being and you're trying to resolve
01:34:43.940 that disjunct of knowing that the world is never enough that you can never have enough food or enough
01:34:48.220 sex or enough porn or enough heroin to ever fulfill yourself stop trying walk a different path it's a
01:34:54.540 beautiful beautiful um system um yeah i'm most grateful for it i think maybe for people that are
01:35:02.540 struggling with addiction and there are so many people that listen to my podcast that are and
01:35:05.460 whether it's porn addiction or drug addiction or drinking um it i think it's this they don't want
01:35:10.440 to go through that period of shame like once you're drunk it's easier and i have no i have people in my
01:35:16.960 family who have struggled with addiction have never gotten over it and so i'm always so curious when you
01:35:20.240 see someone who's done it and i'm sure people that are still struggling with it and you know you will
01:35:24.340 be an addict for life so it's like even if you're clean 22 years you're still an addict right
01:35:27.560 what do you think is the difference like why are some people able to do this and then to speak about
01:35:33.280 it and to provide such a light to others to get clean while others just you know 70 years old and
01:35:39.020 can't stop the addiction can't stop the drinking is it is that fear of facing yourself i think in part
01:35:45.340 that i think that the disease of addiction is a perfect correlative to the idea of sin in fact i see
01:35:53.020 sin now as in self the sibilant s of the serpent that coiling crawling thing of sin to worship
01:36:01.340 yourself now i think you it's difficult to get clean unless you're willing to take that first step
01:36:07.000 some people will fall at the first step they will tell you we all recognize it some people go i don't
01:36:11.660 have a problem with drink i like drinking it's okay to drink that's like if you can't get someone over
01:36:15.900 that you're in real trouble until they go i know i just can't stop that's good that that acknowledgement
01:36:21.560 i can't stop my life's falling apart then you've got an aperture there then you're ready for the
01:36:26.580 second step the second step is do you believe it's possible because i've stopped i don't do it i used
01:36:31.220 to drink all the time you meet people worse than you i was in jail for this i'd done that i prostituted
01:36:35.480 myself i did this that or the other and you meet people that have such terrible galling stories that
01:36:40.040 tell you i changed i don't know how i did it but power greater than myself restored me to sanity
01:36:43.900 so once there's an inkling of the possibility they're ready for the third step the third step is do you
01:36:49.480 recognize you can't be in control anymore something else it literally says we made a decision to turn
01:36:55.740 our will and our life over to the care of god as we understood god it's extremely and explicitly
01:37:02.500 spiritual people try to secularize it and they can because 12-step programs wisely stay out of that 1.00
01:37:09.720 debate of trying to define what god might mean to various people but once you say i'm not in charge
01:37:15.680 anymore then you will be willing to perhaps attend support groups you will be willing to
01:37:20.480 conduct the written program you will be willing to start reading the literature you will be willing
01:37:25.460 to consider helping other people to start recognizing that the problem's really been that you spend all
01:37:31.100 your time thinking about yourself what you want and what you don't want what you desire and what
01:37:36.780 you're afraid of one thing the 12 steps don't do that i would love to contribute is they don't
01:37:41.660 acknowledge that this isn't happening in neutrality it's happening in a culture that over stimulates
01:37:47.180 desire and over stimulates fear in fact those are the two rods that it attaches to you like some
01:37:53.320 anti-christ anti-shepherd with its rod and staff of fear and desire instead of offering you
01:37:58.140 comfort and guidance it offers continual stimulation and it continually navigates you back to self
01:38:04.160 the addict experiences this in extremists most people our species in fact are generally very adaptive
01:38:09.780 okay we're living in a cold place we live in a cold place we live in in a concrete jungle we live in a 0.64
01:38:14.160 concrete jungle but the addict won't adapt the alcoholic the addict has to have god has to have
01:38:21.360 god and if you don't give the alcoholic god it will make one and it will worship it on its knees at the
01:38:27.240 toilet basin the steps of the brothel anywhere where there's some sort of stimulant available so the
01:38:35.360 the modality of the 12 steps it emerges from the church and i believe it's going back into the church
01:38:39.800 it came out of a group called the oxford group which is the first century christian movement that
01:38:43.600 wanted to revive the principles of early christianity and i believe that what we have a lot to learn
01:38:49.100 particularly at a time when you're as you said earlier in our conversation the myth of progressivism
01:38:53.360 is falling apart we're being told we're progressing while we're degenerating to the smallest imaginable
01:38:57.860 units we're decomposing that these ideas not only the 12 steps but the 12 traditions
01:39:03.220 might permit us a pathway new ways to organize these groups are incredible no one's in a position
01:39:08.260 of authority authority is derived from the consensus of the group we discuss it together
01:39:11.960 it has to be the expression of the principles the pre-stated principles of the group which are
01:39:15.420 things like love kindness service they're not wacky crackers things you're not supposed to be
01:39:19.300 prioritizing making money there's such a great legacy and such great potential and possibility i'm
01:39:24.440 very interested in how it could help for example the hhs who i know have very bold ambitions for the
01:39:29.560 health of america what makes a country sick what makes a country want to eat disgusting processed
01:39:35.260 poisonous toxic food well mass marketing campaigns wide availability and economic conditions and poverty
01:39:40.280 and the you know there's there are obvious causal reasons but what is the sick psychic scar at the
01:39:46.040 core of it why would you why would there be a pharmaceutical industry that wants to treat illnesses by
01:39:50.540 making them worse and perpetuating them where is god in all this how are we going to reawaken the
01:39:55.900 spirit of our kind how are we going to overcome the petty distractions the low frequencies quarreling
01:40:01.800 and squabbling and agree on a grand vision that's going to require unity under one god maximum democracy
01:40:08.960 maximum personal individual authority as long as that authority is ceded to a higher power and as long
01:40:14.060 as we're running on principles like service and love one another then we have a chance we can't continue
01:40:19.120 to default to the closed cistern the closed cistern of self-service false idolatry self-worship that's
01:40:26.960 exactly where this system seems to want all of us you worshiping you me worshiping me all of us
01:40:31.720 oblivious and blind staggering around in the dark consuming their products believing their lies 0.94
01:40:37.020 degenerate and incapable of feeding ourselves and protecting one another it seems to me that the
01:40:41.440 utensils and tools and ideals lay all around us unused and we just have to pick up our sword or pick up
01:40:47.580 our cross at least and follow him you know russell i was thinking about it and i've decided i will let
01:40:53.000 you into me and my husband's apocalyptic group good we play this game where we're like okay if we had
01:40:57.640 to live off of a land who would we allow to come onto our farm because everyone's got to bring something
01:41:02.800 this person can sow this person can cook this person can hunt and i was thinking you know at the
01:41:07.800 beginning of this conversation i don't know if russell's going to be a lot of apocalyptic group
01:41:10.100 because he can't grow food doesn't know what agriculture is when he's in but i think he provided
01:41:13.460 entertainment i could reenact great conversation entertainment do an award show baptizing people
01:41:20.320 in the yes in the water yes that water that so we're probably we're washing our feet in that
01:41:25.740 water as well you wouldn't exactly exactly you wouldn't you wouldn't know much about the land
01:41:30.140 but i think nothing i think i'm going to let you in thank you for having me in your apocalyptic cult
01:41:34.460 we'll end it here
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