Candace Owens - Candace x Milo： The Rise of the Gaytriarchy ｜ Candace Ep 234

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, I feel like today is a probably a very great day to discuss homosexuality. 1.00

00:00:04.460 OK, so I grew up in the 90s and we were taught in school that some people are born gay.

00:00:10.840 The older that I get and I speak to people who struggle with homosexuality or live out homosexual lives. 0.86

00:00:17.840 And actually, the majority of them don't think they were born gay.

00:00:20.380 They typically will correlate their homosexuality to some event that's happened in their past.

00:00:25.480 Well, I want to discuss this theme today because virtually everything that I'm reading right now, whether it's Hollywood Babylon or getting into Sigmund Freud and the history of Jewish mysticism, there is some element of homosexuality. 0.74

00:00:39.420 Is this a part of an occultic practice?

00:00:42.240 Has homosexuality been pushed upon our society because it is disordering? 1.00

00:00:46.760 Are we even allowed to say that on YouTube?

00:00:48.240 Anyways, here to join me, Milo Yiannopoulos.

00:00:51.580 Let me start from the beginning here.

00:00:52.620 I want to say I've never struggled with homosexuality.

00:00:55.180 I was brilliant at it from day one.

00:00:58.800 But it did occur to me five years ago that hell was real and I don't want to go.

00:01:04.620 So you say you're a reformed or a recovered homosexual? 0.99

00:01:07.980 I say ex-gay because it sounds hilarious. 1.00

00:01:10.160 But the truth is... 0.98

00:01:11.180 Ex-gay does sound good. 1.00

00:01:12.280 It's good, isn't it? 0.54

00:01:13.280 But the truth is, as far as I've got so far is celibacy.

00:01:17.840 And the good thing about the male libido is the less you have, less you want.

00:01:22.160 So I never thought that I would be happy, kind of not really having sexual activity per se, but it's fine.

00:01:30.820 And now I'm into the messy, difficult and terrifying business of casting my eye over the female population. 1.00

00:01:38.360 It's probably more terrifying for them than it is for me.

00:01:40.040 And figuring out if there's anybody there who could be quiet for long enough to be my wife.

00:01:48.920 I'm just kidding, of course.

00:01:50.000 But it has nagged at me and irritated me since I came back to my faith, the Catholic faith,

00:01:59.660 that I wasn't able to participate in that last Holy Sacrament.

00:02:04.220 You know, I was confirmed very late in life, actually.

00:02:08.460 And it's a blessing to be able to not just remember it, but to have had a very fancy affair.

00:02:14.500 I had, you know, I had the full Latin, you know, Institute of Christ the King.

00:02:19.640 You know, they do a conditional baptism.

00:02:22.420 You get exercised three times on the way into the church.

00:02:24.380 You have to get on your knees and you go in, you go in, you go in.

00:02:26.480 So converts normally have this, but if you have a conditional baptism,

00:02:29.080 maybe you do this as an adult, you have to read the Our Father and a few other things in Latin.

00:02:34.500 And then confirmation, as you know, over very quickly.

00:02:36.740 But it was beautiful and it was lovely to be able to have that as an adult.

00:02:41.100 And it was a very important part of my return to as close to faithful Catholic life as I can get.

00:02:49.600 I think it's probably safe to say.

00:02:52.360 But it was bugging me that I wasn't able to participate in something that everybody should.

00:03:00.840 And there's something very magical and very special about not just marriage, but about children,

00:03:06.340 because it is the time before you die, before you get to heaven, where you get to do something with Our Lord.

00:03:13.140 You get to, it's called co-procreation.

00:03:15.580 Two people make the baby biologically, but Our Lord puts a soul in there.

00:03:20.220 And so co-procreation with God is, you know, you haven't just made love with your husband or your wife.

00:03:25.700 You haven't just created a baby, but you have participated in creation with God.

00:03:33.960 Like, you know, like that's huge.

00:03:36.900 And it's something that men can do even if they can't bear children.

00:03:41.300 You know, they still get to do that.

00:03:43.040 And I don't know.

00:03:44.500 I just, the truth is, it's not a very good answer, but it sort of crept up on me.

00:03:47.940 The truth is one day I woke up and I remember the short chain of thought I had.

00:03:54.640 And it's what I said a moment ago.

00:03:56.220 Hell is real and I don't want to go.

00:03:58.120 Just like that.

00:03:58.820 Yeah.

00:03:59.000 It's very interesting because, like I said, I grew up and you learn in school, if you go to the public school system, that some people are gay, some people are straights.

00:04:08.120 And we need to normalize homosexuality. 1.00

00:04:10.780 That's why we have terms like homophobic.

00:04:13.560 I don't know what that means. 0.96

00:04:14.380 I guess it means you're scared of gay people running down the street. 0.99

00:04:17.240 Well, if you're a baby, you should be afraid of getting trafficked to a homosexual couple. 0.93

00:04:21.040 Homophobia is pretty rational if you're a vulnerable young foster kid or something. 1.00

00:04:26.140 Well, I think about this now and having read, and I asked you to read this book ahead of this discussion, but having read Hollywood Babylon and getting into Sigmund Freud and the sort of mystical tradition, it's really interesting because we, of course, have no memory of what happened on this earth before we were here.

00:04:41.140 And I think I sort of assumed, obviously very wrongly, that there was always this kind of current of homosexuality in American culture, but it actually happened quite quickly and beyond quite quickly. 0.74

00:04:52.440 It also happened quite intentionally when you take a look at the establishment of Hollywood and them thinking through how to infect the Christian culture in America. 0.52

00:05:03.640 And that had happened a few different times in different ways elsewhere in the history of Western civilization, but really prior to, I mean, prior to the Middle Ages that homosexuality is sort of conceived of completely differently in the same way that race is.

00:05:17.720 You know, people living in 1100, which have no idea what we were talking about, we were talking about somebody being white or not white in the American way.

00:05:25.900 But the most recent explosion of this, funnily enough, happened, in a way it was kind of a test run for what the media later did with Trump.

00:05:37.360 The first, I think, full assault, full media assault, like what they did to Trump, like what they did on January 6th, was about conversion therapy in the 80s.

00:05:49.920 And at that time, you know, after maybe half a century of this stuff, you know, digging in after the 1910s, 20s and 30s in Hollywood, you know, half a century has passed. 0.93

00:06:01.380 And people still think homosexuals are dirty and sleazy and it's a moral choice. 0.96

00:06:09.760 And we can't get over this hurdle. 0.99

00:06:11.720 So what the campaigners came up with was, well, if it's, hang on a second, if it's like being black or if it's like being a woman, then if somebody doesn't like it, they're a bigot.

00:06:21.620 That works.

00:06:23.120 So the Born This Way mythology was created to meet ideological objectives out of whole cloth.

00:06:30.180 And it has never been even remotely demonstrated by science.

00:06:34.500 The closest that anybody will truthfully get is, say, there appear to be some people who have some sort of predispositions, maybe, but it is vastly more to do with nurture than it is to do with nature.

00:06:48.420 And in any case, even if you are one of those people that just pops out, you know, in sequence, seeing Mariah Carey, it is possible to overcome what are disordered urges.

00:07:01.540 They call it unwanted same-sex attraction.

00:07:03.800 I think it's the PC term that YouTube is right with.

00:07:06.720 It is possible to, even though you may be suffering with what is a terrible curse, not do it.

00:07:14.060 You know what's interesting?

00:07:15.160 Because I've had to reconsider that my childhood programming on this, but I love that you call it the Born This Way mythology.

00:07:21.100 That's a great way of saying it because that's what it was.

00:07:22.940 You're born this way.

00:07:24.420 It's worse than mythology, it's propaganda.

00:07:25.940 You know, it's political propaganda.

00:07:26.700 It is political propaganda.

00:07:27.440 And I think that the best example of that currently, because we're living through that, is this insistence that people are born trans. 0.95

00:07:34.900 And you can see how they infect that propaganda, how it starts.

00:07:38.960 And thinking about Hollywood, how it starts with the television screens and I Am Jazz was sort of the first time that they did this TLC show.

00:07:47.920 I don't know if you're familiar with this.

00:07:48.780 Yeah, I know.

00:07:49.160 And they said, actually, jazz is trans and it became this cultural phenomenon, got so much coverage.

00:07:56.520 And nobody tells you the end point and the struggles that jazz is facing today.

00:08:00.300 And they were able to get all of these kids.

00:08:02.680 I grew up, nobody was trans.

00:08:03.860 And now all of a sudden you have all of these parents who are convinced that their children are born something other.

00:08:08.620 You said it exactly right.

00:08:10.560 People are always amazed at the horrors that parents can do to their own children.

00:08:15.320 But they shouldn't be because people do all kinds of terrible things to their kids.

00:08:19.220 You know, whether it's everyday neglect or it's something more serious and more dramatic.

00:08:24.060 The trans thing fixed a really big problem for the parents of gay kids or kids who show signs of those sorts of behaviors early on.

00:08:35.780 Which lots do because the damage happens early.

00:08:38.780 Fixed a big problem, which is what did I do wrong?

00:08:41.580 Because if you don't have a gay child that you messed up, but instead have a trans child who has a problem, who has a disease, who has a syndrome, who has something on them, then you're off the hook. 0.99

00:08:51.940 You're not bad parents. 0.82

00:08:53.040 In fact, you're victims because your kid has got this thing that nobody would ever want for their own child.

00:08:59.380 And so you become brave and you become a hero and your child becomes the crucible in which your social anxieties about having messed up as a parent and made your kid gay, which is what you did, are resolved and sanctified. 0.92

00:09:15.320 Because in fact, all of these kids who are seized and mutilated, if they were left alone, would be what we would call, you know, like gay men. 0.94

00:09:25.980 And if without the interference, without the injection into the process of these crazed trans campaigners, they would have a hope of a way out. 0.96

00:09:39.440 But once you've started chopping things off, you create so many psychological and body image problems that you're no longer just dealing with the fact that you had an overbearing mother, an absent father, and you didn't form sustainable platonic relationships with men as a young boy. 0.80

00:09:58.220 And something went wrong in your head, you know, or that you got raped and it happened because it could happen for any mixture or all of those reasons.

00:10:06.680 I had a bit of all of them. Once you start chopping part of that person off, you cut them off from salvation, you cut them off from redemption, you cut them off from hope. 0.63

00:10:18.900 Because if you can stop doing that stuff, at least you're still you and you have potential and possibility and you could do and be anything as long as you're still like, you know, in possession of your health, your faculties, your whatever. 0.98

00:10:31.360 But once you start mutilating somebody because parents find it easier to believe their kids have a disease, which is not their fault, then they messed up as parents and they're gay. 0.96

00:10:42.200 Even if you were able to somehow switch the trajectory of your desire from one sex to another, which does happen, it's not, you know, not everybody goes into conversion therapy wins.

00:10:54.100 It's, you know, best case scenario, you've got like a one in five chance. It's not good odds, better than cancer, but it's not great.

00:10:58.440 But if you start cutting things off immediately, there's nowhere to come home to.

00:11:05.740 And the problem that gay kids have is that they start early on being different people in front of different audiences. 0.95

00:11:13.600 So they know that, for instance, they can't be their sassy selves in front of their grandparents, let's say, because they're whatever. 0.55

00:11:18.920 And this, this eventually unchecked becomes a kind of fractured personality, which is the bedrock reason why gay people are, you know, always so dishonest and always so always up to stuff, you know, because they have these competing identities that are not reconciled. 1.00

00:11:36.520 And they are playing characters in front of different people who become almost like fully fledged people in their own right. 0.89

00:11:43.180 And it is a kind of, I mean, it's, you know, lay person schizophrenia.

00:11:47.160 It's not, it's not schizophrenia, but it's, it, it becomes disorientated and it becomes debilitating.

00:11:52.680 And, and, and you, you, what you're able to do, if you have different people you can lean into and lean out of, like an actor, but in real life, you're able to do things to those characters because they're not you.

00:12:03.840 And you might not know really where the you is, but, um, uh, the person, the, the character that is, um, the sexual, uh, person, you can begin to degrade them.

00:12:14.720 You can begin to humiliate them.

00:12:16.700 You can get off on them suffering, uh, even if it's you because it's role play and every, because everything is in your life because, uh, you've, you're now simply replacing one facade with another constantly everywhere you go.

00:12:32.120 Yeah. And so, um, because, because your personality is kind of broken into bits, uh, you can at any point see any of it as not being really you and you can do awful things to it.

00:12:42.660 It's so funny that you say that because somebody that I know who used to live a homosexual lifestyle and doesn't anymore, I was opening up to him about this gay guy that we had hired a while ago who very quickly was lying to us and stealing from us. 0.99

00:12:54.900 And he was fantastic at his job. We were so good to him.

00:12:57.740 And the question that he asked me, he said, you know, was there something about it? 0.98

00:13:01.840 He said a lot of gay men are sociopaths because they have to lie so much about who they are and what they're doing. 0.98

00:13:07.820 Like, and it shapes their brain early on. 0.99

00:13:10.120 And then later on in life, it becomes very easy when you're lying.

00:13:12.740 You don't even feel like you're lying because you've nurtured this ability to be dishonest for so long.

00:13:17.800 Look, I wouldn't say that it, because they have to lie about who they are, because there's, there's, there's a, there's a little, um, there's something hidden in there.

00:13:25.760 There's a little something embedded in there that suggests that maybe it's homophobia that makes them, uh, damaged or miserable.

00:13:31.120 And that's not what's going on.

00:13:33.360 Um, what they're doing, what, what, what people with these, uh, um, disordered desires are doing, knowing that it is wrong and that it is not normal.

00:13:42.460 And you, you know that you're supposed to be into girls. 0.64

00:13:44.720 I, I, I had relationships with girls. 1.00

00:13:46.580 I just wasn't really feeling it, you know?

00:13:48.240 Um, but you feel drawn to this other thing and you know that it's wrong and it's as much wanting to distance yourself from the moral responsibility and culpability of doing it as it is presenting different faces as well.

00:14:01.340 Um, that, that, that become the reason why, uh, gays have this sort of fractured personality, but it's not sociopathy.

00:14:07.520 They feel things intensely.

00:14:09.220 They're, and that hysteria is not the, um, shallow hysteria of, um, of a, of a sociopathic mom who's going to drown her kid.

00:14:16.340 It's different, uh, they're in pain, they're hurting, uh, and when they cry, it's real, but they're, they're bouncing between different personalities and different identities.

00:14:25.220 And, and, and, and your, your, your man there, um, it was like, from his perspective, it's like somebody else was doing that.

00:14:32.820 Um, like, like he, and he is responsible and he did do it and he must have the consequences because it will help him to reintegrate.

00:14:41.520 And they now call conversion therapy reintegrative therapy for the reason, for reasons that you will, uh, immediately understand having listened to you talk.

00:14:49.080 Um, uh, they, they, they, they need that impetus.

00:14:53.180 So they need to get caught, you know, um, but it, but they are in pain acting out.

00:14:57.160 And very often you find with gays, um, uh, they will do this stuff almost to get caught because they want somebody to notice that everything's not all right. 1.00

00:15:03.780 Um, and when the, when the alphabetized CD collection, uh, perfect employee, um, who's kind of, you know, like, yes, I'll take care of that for you, um, needs you to know that they're in pain.

00:15:16.640 They'll do something like steal or they'll do something like, uh, uh, you know, say, or, or, or do something despicable, whatever.

00:15:24.380 Uh, they're acting out because they want to be noticed.

00:15:26.540 It's a cry for help.

00:15:27.580 So it's interesting now when I consider it now, now that I was baptized Catholic and reexamining why it is that we learned that it is,

00:15:33.780 it's this immutable characteristic.

00:15:34.960 It's like being black. 1.00

00:15:35.880 It's like being a woman. 0.99

00:15:36.440 This person is just gay and how it doesn't allow people to get better. 1.00

00:15:40.640 It would be absurd. 0.99

00:15:41.880 Giving a totally different example.

00:15:43.100 If someone is an alcoholic, if we said, oh, you were, you were, that's who you always were.

00:15:47.240 Deep down, you were always an alcoholic.

00:15:48.660 So just keep drinking.

00:15:49.640 It's totally fine.

00:15:50.520 And yes, if you go to rehab, you don't have a 100% chance of getting sober.

00:15:54.780 If you are taking meth, you don't have a 100% chance of getting sober, but knowing and saying to a society that this is an unhealthy, something that you are doing.

00:16:03.980 It forecloses, exactly.

00:16:06.060 You have immediately insurited exactly the key thing about this.

00:16:09.120 Yeah.

00:16:09.480 You got it.

00:16:10.000 They don't want people.

00:16:10.780 You got it right away.

00:16:11.940 If you tell somebody that that's what they are, more even than who they are, you're robbing them of the ability to make changes.

00:16:21.120 Yeah, like you're an alcoholic because it's totally a genetic trait and your dad was an alcoholic and now you're an alcoholic and it's not your fault.

00:16:26.000 And there's nothing we can do about it.

00:16:27.060 I mean, in a way, you should probably just drink.

00:16:29.620 Right.

00:16:30.100 And we'll deal with the consequences later.

00:16:32.540 Robbing that person maybe of the ability to get sober and to have a family, you know, to stop beating their wife or to get their kids back or something.

00:16:38.760 That's the main thing.

00:16:40.220 That's why I think it's such an important discussion to reopen.

00:16:42.580 It's funny because you've got kids, you immediately understood.

00:16:44.860 You immediately understood what the problem was.

00:16:46.860 Nobody gets it.

00:16:47.560 When I say, like, what's the problem with telling somebody that it's what they are, I don't know, that you immediately got it because you have children now.

00:16:53.220 But yeah, that's what it is.

00:16:55.580 All of the pathways to not, I mean, you said pathway to salvation.

00:16:59.880 I used that kind of, I used that word metaphorically earlier, but I mean it literally too.

00:17:06.900 It's barring your way to heaven.

00:17:08.680 Right.

00:17:08.960 And that's what's so wicked about it.

00:17:10.860 Right. 0.93

00:17:11.160 And so you see people who have normalized this and now you have homosexual families, which in my opinion, that is oxymoronic in general. 0.99

00:17:22.320 Well, it's a mockery.

00:17:24.940 Well, what's also interesting about it, though, is like, you know, a lot of people get into these situations and that's why it's been fascinating for me to know people who identify as homosexual and all of them.

00:17:35.400 The one thing that is agreed upon them is that they they actually don't think they were born this way.

00:17:39.780 One of them has mommy issues, says, OK, my mother was bipolar and she drove both me and my brother to never want to be around women again.

00:17:47.100 And now we're both choosing to be gay. 0.91

00:17:48.540 Another person said I had daddy issues.

00:17:50.520 As my daddy walked out, I wasn't around him and then I looked, you know, I sought to have that relationship with men when I got older.

00:17:56.780 You could say this even for women who can understand this in another context.

00:17:59.440 A lot of the women who you will see sleep with tons of guys, it's because their dads weren't around. 1.00

00:18:04.600 So they have daddy issues.

00:18:05.420 They're pursuing that paternity in a really unhealthy way.

00:18:08.080 And so for you, which was it?

00:18:10.100 Well, I always knew that it was sick and wrong for two men to raise a baby. 1.00

00:18:21.060 And I never wanted to have any part of that.

00:18:23.600 And I feel some responsibility for elevating what you might call out and proud homosexuality into an acceptable position in right wing politics in America. 0.97

00:18:41.240 I feel a lot of things about that, about my personal responsibility for that.

00:18:47.880 But I regret it very deeply because although I thought at the time I was being sufficiently tongue-in-cheek and subtle that people would get, you know, the nuances to it, they did not.

00:18:59.840 And you just ended up with Lady Margot.

00:19:01.940 And although I said in every speech I ever gave, if I had a button I could push to make me straight, I would.

00:19:07.980 That too, of course, got lost.

00:19:09.280 And so, you know, there was a moment when it looked like it might be a good idea if people who had this terrible affliction at least lived as close to wholesome lives as possible.

00:19:22.060 I mean, it sounds sensible, right?

00:19:23.060 So we go from being the taboo-breaking, drug-taking, promiscuous subculture to people who are living about, you know, about as good as you can, you know, despite the fact that your life revolves around a dysfunction or around a horror like that.

00:19:40.560 At least, you know, you don't need to, like, throw the rest of your life away.

00:19:43.720 You could at least be healthy.

00:19:44.680 You could at least, you know, whatever.

00:19:46.540 And it seemed for a while as though that was good.

00:19:53.700 Homosexuals began to vote right-wing.

00:19:55.440 They still do.

00:19:56.720 And so we thought for a while, this is going all right.

00:19:59.340 You know, we've got all the white gays voting for the conservatives or the Republican Party. 0.74

00:20:04.500 And, you know, they're getting into all kinds of rows with their intersectional whatever. 0.72

00:20:08.700 This is good.

00:20:09.440 Because they're the ones we want anyway. 0.96

00:20:10.560 You know, the white gays are the good ones out of the, you know, the LGBT circus. 1.00

00:20:15.280 And they ended up voting on the basis of taxes instead of social issues.

00:20:20.840 All kinds of things.

00:20:21.820 But what I didn't foresee, which I suppose I should have, is that a three-fifths of a parody is not enough.

00:20:34.200 And when you have this mockery of the Holy Sacrament, which is ultimately what it is,

00:20:38.620 two men living together and committing a sin that, as we know, is one of the sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance.

00:20:46.840 You know, it is one of the things that, it's St. Catherine of Siena, I think, she says,

00:20:55.340 she says that the demons that cause homosexual acts, once they've prompted that in men, 0.53

00:21:05.720 don't stick around to watch because it's too disgusting. 0.87

00:21:08.720 Because they used to be angels and it's in their angelic rational nature.

00:21:13.340 They can't see something so gross.

00:21:15.020 So they don't stick around to see the sin that they prompted.

00:21:19.600 This is the level of seriousness with which the, you know, the church takes it, faith takes it.

00:21:24.580 So it was probably foreseeable that a simulacrum of married life was going to lead to something awful.

00:21:31.380 And it did.

00:21:32.540 It has led to the widespread abuse of not just children, but babies. 0.99

00:21:39.260 We see stories now of babies being sexually violated by gay men. 0.98

00:21:45.600 I mean, the couple who Ruth Bader Ginsburg married got busted for child pornography, I think, sometime later. 0.98

00:21:55.900 All of the...

00:21:56.800 Even the, speaking of, sorry to cut you off, but speaking of the mythology, even the Matt Laramie project, insane.

00:22:01.840 I did not learn this.

00:22:03.400 My brain basically broke because it was a part of the propaganda.

00:22:06.660 Sorry, Matthew Shepard, the Laramie project.

00:22:09.300 It was in Wyoming, I believe.

00:22:10.640 And they kind of came out with this mythology saying Matthew Shepard was murdered because he was gay and he was tied to a fence.

00:22:17.520 And this became a part of my high school indoctrination about why it was so important to let people just be gay.

00:22:21.760 Because look what happened to Matthew Shepard.

00:22:23.460 And that was, of course, a manufactured...

00:22:24.740 It was a manufactured...

00:22:25.280 It was a total manufactured thing. 0.78

00:22:26.780 Actually, he was a drug addict. 0.92

00:22:30.100 The person who killed him was somebody that he knew and had a homosexual relationship with.

00:22:35.500 And they ran with this in order to get laws passed.

00:22:38.180 It was built upon a myth.

00:22:40.740 Has there ever been a hate crime?

00:22:42.760 I don't know if there's ever been a hate crime.

00:22:44.540 I mean, definitely like, you know, 300 years ago, terrible, you know, there were atrocities happening across racial lines because there was understanding that people weren't people.

00:22:53.960 But has there ever really been a hate crime? 1.00

00:22:55.740 When you say hate crime, it's so stupid. 0.98

00:22:57.400 I'm like, has anybody ever committed a crime against someone that they love? 1.00

00:22:59.260 Like, what do we mean when we even say hate crime?

00:23:01.440 Well, I'm saying, you know, like...

00:23:02.260 For your attributes? 1.00

00:23:03.380 Like, just because you're white, I'm going to kill you. 1.00

00:23:05.340 Has somebody pursued a homosexual across a field, tied him up and beat him? 1.00

00:23:09.640 Nah, come on. 0.99

00:23:11.500 But they wanted us to believe that.

00:23:13.100 And they taught us this in school.

00:23:14.260 And there are still people I know that are watching right now that do not realize that the entire movie, the play, the Matthew Shepard thing is all one big myth.

00:23:23.420 Look at the way that progressives will rewrite their own founding mythology to suit the mores of the day.

00:23:32.280 You think they're not worried about lying to you?

00:23:34.520 It's now accepted wisdom among the wokest of the gay community that it was trans people who won gay rights at Stonewall, who marched. 0.69

00:23:44.840 You know, it wasn't. 0.58

00:23:46.300 There were no real trannies there. 1.00

00:23:47.620 It was white gays. 1.00

00:23:48.460 The white gays do all the, you know, do all the interesting stuff. 0.99

00:23:52.220 They're all the fashion designers, you know, blah, blah, blah. 0.86

00:23:54.020 But because white gays have fallen out of fashion with the intersectional crowd, now they've just sort of completely rewritten who it was that participated in this, you know, civil rights event in history.

00:24:05.020 They completely rewrite their own mythology with no compunction whatsoever. 0.85

00:24:08.960 And they have no hesitation in lying to us about things that happened.

00:24:13.060 And I think we're now seeing, we did a show not long ago about one particular country that is guilty of, you know, just the most extraordinary machine gun of psyops and lies and misrepresentations, just hoping that enough of it sticks. 0.63

00:24:30.220 You know, it has become now the norm.

00:24:34.300 But our society functions not on the truth, but primarily on lies.

00:24:39.520 I mean, most of the things that are said in American public life, on television, in newspapers, in the academy, are not true.

00:24:46.560 And this is very dangerous because people with conditions or with disorders where they're trying to figure out what's real, they have no hope in a society like this.

00:24:57.140 Because it is now, I think we live in America in a state now of epistemological crisis where it is no longer possible for a regular person with access to, you know, regular people things to even figure out how they would find out if something that they heard on TV was true.

00:25:15.660 So if a politician tells you, well, this bill is bad because it's going to increase the deficit to a point where the country will not recover financially.

00:25:24.780 And you're like, well, I don't think money is real, but can't they just, even if you took all the premises, there's no way to even find out.

00:25:34.040 There's no way for somebody to go and find out, like, is that true?

00:25:36.180 Who is telling me the truth out of the Republicans and Democrats or out of the neocons and the Margaret people? 0.90

00:25:42.080 Who is telling me the truth about this, about this, what should be a black and white math problem?

00:25:47.720 There's no way to know.

00:25:48.800 And so we're hopeless on things like sexuality that are so, that are not concrete, that are not tangible.

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00:28:51.420 No, it's really interesting, because even if you examine, there are all of these founding myths.

00:28:55.420 Like, for BLM, they needed to have that George Floyd thing to really set fire to everything.

00:28:59.660 Or actually, before the George Floyd thing, what happened in—who was it?

00:29:03.780 Michael—what was the person down in Florida?

00:29:06.600 I can't think of his name.

00:29:07.800 It was the founding— 0.68

00:29:08.220 Trayvon Martin?

00:29:09.060 Trayvon Martin.

00:29:09.940 With the Skittles?

00:29:10.680 With the Skittles.

00:29:11.560 There's all of these founding myths, and what they do is they get the media to spread it like fire.

00:29:15.100 And before people even know what the truth is, everybody is emotionally invested in the lies.

00:29:19.200 And that's how they do it.

00:29:20.260 They have to tell you a story that's borderline medieval. 0.98

00:29:23.000 It's like he was chained to a fence just for being gay. 0.54

00:29:27.360 George Floyd, he did nothing wrong. 1.00

00:29:29.800 They just saw a black guy, and they said, let's choke him out for nine minutes and hope that he dies. 0.99

00:29:34.040 And nothing—nobody just goes for a moment, wait a second. 0.98

00:29:38.120 I've lived in America a very long time.

00:29:40.360 I've never seen or heard this thing happen.

00:29:42.900 But the media, they are so good at getting psychologically convincing people that, no, this is exactly how it happens.

00:29:49.560 My British is going to come out now, but I think this is how this country was founded, on a trumped-up Reddit libertarian hissy fit that was not really all it was cracked up to be,

00:30:00.320 but was the basis for a destructive and a self-harm story.

00:30:06.560 You know, a founding mythology of a country that ripped out the natural system of government that is supposed to obtain over men on earth,

00:30:14.940 and pulled God out of the system too.

00:30:18.940 Is this my British coming out? I know. 0.96

00:30:20.600 No, I actually—I'm going to—

00:30:22.280 There is something a little similar about the way this country was founded to what you're talking about,

00:30:28.340 which might suggest why this country is so vulnerable and so susceptible to precisely this kind of psychological and political warfare,

00:30:38.180 because it is how the nation knows itself, how it was born, was in a fit of injustice that was corrected by a few brave men taking a stand.

00:30:49.220 That's the whole story of America.

00:30:51.100 Okay, so I'm interested now, because this is going to bring us right into the occult and what they actually believe in,

00:30:56.120 because you're right, the founding of America is an absolute myth.

00:30:58.480 I'm actually reading a book—

00:30:59.740 And supported by the French.

00:31:01.220 But hold on. What is the book that I'm reading?

00:31:03.760 The Secret Founding of America.

00:31:05.580 I'm reading a book, and it's basically just blowing my mind, and it's telling me that everything you think you know is completely false.

00:31:10.620 But when I was in study with some priests, they sort of pish-poshed me.

00:31:15.480 You know, I was in England studying with some priests, and they were just sort of like, 0.99

00:31:17.780 everything that you Americans think you know is so foolish. 0.96

00:31:19.780 Like, America was obviously founded by Freemasons. 0.98

00:31:22.300 And now I'm really understanding, like, yes, you had these Freemason lodges that came over.

00:31:27.660 You know, the Scottish Rite, Benibarith, and they were the reason behind the Civil War.

00:31:32.280 They were the reason—they were literally fighting for control of America.

00:31:36.520 And the way that they do this is very similar to what we're seeing today.

00:31:40.000 There's this kind of mainstreamed lie.

00:31:42.220 I mean, let's get to—if you ask Americans, oh, it was just the tea tax was too high.

00:31:46.580 And this is what we did.

00:31:47.580 We started throwing it out in the harbor, and we said, we're ready to go to war. 0.99

00:31:50.540 Now that I say it, it sounds so stupid that— 1.00

00:31:52.740 Sounds kind of dumb, don't it? 1.00

00:31:53.900 It's kind of really basic and dumb. 1.00

00:31:54.500 Sounds kind of dumb. 1.00

00:31:55.440 Basic and dumb. 0.99

00:31:56.040 Like, I know it was a couple hundred years ago, but people were people. 0.99

00:31:58.540 What?

00:31:58.880 How much is this tea cost?

00:32:00.220 Oh, no.

00:32:01.100 Paul Revere, the British are coming. 1.00

00:32:03.540 It's actually something that's so childish. 0.99

00:32:06.280 And it's gay. 0.99

00:32:07.340 It's gay. 1.00

00:32:08.200 It's gay. 1.00

00:32:08.980 It's fucking it's gay. 1.00

00:32:09.920 Yeah. 1.00

00:32:10.400 It's implausible. 1.00

00:32:11.400 It is fake and gay. 1.00

00:32:13.020 You literally—now that I'm getting into the Freemason reign— 0.99

00:32:15.440 And is it any wonder that a country founded on a fake and gay mythology would have as its primary export, just a couple of hundred years later, sodomy as a condition of foreign aid? 1.00

00:32:28.660 Is it so surprising? 0.88

00:32:30.000 No, it's not.

00:32:30.500 Not to me.

00:32:31.320 No, it's not.

00:32:31.780 But getting into the homosexuality and looking into B'nai B'rith, this was actually one of the Masonic lodges that Sigmund Freud was a part of.

00:32:38.640 And that's why it made me think about this, because they were definitely very involved in what was happening in the South.

00:32:43.080 They were very involved in what's happening today.

00:32:44.160 B'nai B'rith then became the ADL, the ADL that we had today.

00:32:47.040 Right, right, right.

00:32:47.400 What do they do?

00:32:48.020 They mainstream lies, right?

00:32:49.260 Yes.

00:32:49.500 They call themselves—exactly.

00:32:50.780 They call themselves anti-defamation.

00:32:52.720 But what are they doing?

00:32:53.600 They defame people.

00:32:54.000 They're actually defaming people.

00:32:55.260 They accuse people.

00:32:55.900 Which is a satanic inversion of the language, precisely as is used in their warfare. 0.99

00:32:59.820 Yes.

00:33:00.100 They tell you who they are in the name.

00:33:01.660 Exactly.

00:33:02.160 And so they are constantly accusing people of exactly what it is that they are.

00:33:05.760 Yes.

00:33:05.900 So they actually—in their core, by the way, they hate Christians, okay?

00:33:10.240 They hate—I would argue that they hate the nuclear family, because that comes with everything that comes down right from Christendom, like the nuclear family, the idea of a functional family.

00:33:19.220 And when you look at the things that they're pushing in our society, it's constantly an attack on the family unit.

00:33:25.340 Let's think about it in terms of Catholic theology, the transcendentals.

00:33:29.280 These are those qualities of reality that all people are drawn to that give us a little taste of what our Lord may be like.

00:33:38.880 And depending on whose theology you read, typically there's four of them, beauty, truth, goodness, and unity, right?

00:33:44.680 So you often hear religious people talking about the good, the beautiful, and the true, right?

00:33:47.920 Those are the things that the ADL wages war against, along with all of the other bodies of a similar kind.

00:33:54.880 They will celebrate the ugliest statues possible.

00:33:59.540 They will spread as many lies as possible, and they will propagate and seek to enshrine evil and wretched things, Planned Parenthood, whatever.

00:34:11.440 The good, the beautiful, and the true.

00:34:12.980 And, of course, they create disharmony and disunity and break people apart.

00:34:16.980 It is those things that I always find it very helpful to think about the way that the enemy has fought over the last 100 years in this country in terms of those things, the transcendentals.

00:34:29.900 Because it sort of checks off all the fronts they've been fighting on.

00:34:35.280 They've been getting it, even if we haven't.

00:34:37.020 Well, America didn't because it's Protestant. 0.87

00:34:38.880 They've lost sight of this.

00:34:41.240 But the bad guys know exactly what they were doing because they know what Catholics know. 0.92

00:34:47.060 Which is in just the same way that Satanists know what Catholics know. 0.55

00:34:49.920 They just do something different.

00:34:51.580 Which is that those things tend to go together.

00:34:54.760 And if you make a society that is beautiful and it tells the truth, it's likely also to be good.

00:35:00.980 And if you have somebody who always tells the truth and has good morals, they're probably going to express those things in beautiful language.

00:35:09.580 These things somehow have a relationship together because they're all qualities of God, but also because they seem somehow to lead to one another.

00:35:17.840 And many people come to the faith, especially the Catholic faith, through art, through architecture, through beauty, because they see something in it.

00:35:25.420 They feel something kind of humming behind it.

00:35:27.580 And that humming is God.

00:35:29.220 And eventually it tumbles into the good and the true things they find out about God later.

00:35:33.740 But they're drawn in by something objectively, independently beautiful, eternally beautiful about something that they have seen or a melody they have heard or all of those things.

00:35:45.280 You know, the great richness of the Western, whatever, by unpicking the mutually reinforcing structure that used to fuel our culture and hold us all together.

00:35:58.040 Beauty, truth, goodness and unity.

00:36:00.000 These things that we all thought reflexively that we would, of course, we were all, you know, searching for and pointing towards. 0.52

00:36:08.940 It's by making the world ugly, putting fat girls on the magazines, making the statues horrendous. 0.57

00:36:16.520 Or, you know, Leslie Jones. 0.95

00:36:18.780 Haven't I suffered for that one?

00:36:20.340 Lena Dunham.

00:36:21.000 That wasn't fair.

00:36:21.700 Lena Dunham.

00:36:22.380 What did I do?

00:36:23.160 She's come back bigger than ever.

00:36:25.120 She's, you know, in an age of a Zen pick, it takes some determination to be that fat. 1.00

00:36:29.160 But she is, it was so intentional for her to introduce into the culture, get this deal with HBO.

00:36:34.920 It's going to be the greatest show ever.

00:36:36.220 Ugliness.

00:36:36.600 And then they put her on every, every magazine cover.

00:36:40.320 Oh, it's so brave.

00:36:41.300 It's so beautiful.

00:36:42.240 And, but there is an element of this.

00:36:43.380 I really want to underscore this.

00:36:45.140 The lie, them trying to sell it to us and then say there's something wrong with you if you recoil when you see Lena Dunham naked.

00:36:52.700 Of course, there's such a thing as objective beauty.

00:36:54.260 They're trying to teach us that beauty is subjective.

00:36:56.080 My recovery is rocky enough as it is.

00:36:57.400 I could do without that.

00:37:00.500 But seriously, they're trying to train our minds to believe that everything is subjective.

00:37:04.120 And there's something about that perspective that is fundamentally satanic and demonic and backwards because it's like, no, stop trying to convince me that this really ugly modern contraption that you're calling a building is just as beautiful as when I step into a Catholic cathedral. 0.65

00:37:20.380 And so, and so the Russians understand this, right?

00:37:22.860 And so when they talk, when, when you hear the KGB guys talking about demoralization of a population, right?

00:37:31.880 They're saying they understand that if you make people say things they know aren't true and support things they know are bad and admire or perform admiration towards things they find ugly, they're going to get depressed.

00:37:48.280 When you say something that you know to be untrue, I used to talk about this.

00:37:51.980 It makes you feel unsettled.

00:37:53.360 But it's even worse.

00:37:54.640 It's because there is this culture of that.

00:37:56.040 I would look under Lena Dunham posting herself like a total slob and people would say stunning and brave, you know, so beautiful.

00:38:02.440 Like you're so inspiring.

00:38:04.120 A little piece of you, it does something to your spirit when you speak an untruth like that.

00:38:08.960 You know that's not true.

00:38:10.380 Why are you saying that?

00:38:11.740 And so when the Berlin Wall fell, everybody was like suddenly Western.

00:38:16.720 It was because everybody had been lying about what they really believed.

00:38:20.180 It was called, a sociologist referred to it as a preference falsification, right?

00:38:24.360 All of society, basically everybody had this incredibly powerful social pressure to all say that they believed and supported this.

00:38:32.020 When in reality, they were like secretly trying to listen to the radio.

00:38:34.960 So when there's the opportunity, everybody suddenly changes all at once.

00:38:39.800 And we just saw that again with woke, with trans, with, you know, with Trump coming in.

00:38:45.900 Just this extraordinary, I mean, I don't know when you will be watching this, but when we recorded it, it was on that happy day.

00:38:54.020 The view was reportedly cancelled.

00:38:56.880 Did you see that today?

00:38:58.140 No, were they actually cancelled?

00:38:59.100 No, I don't think that's right.

00:39:00.260 Well, I like to believe it and I'm never going to watch it again.

00:39:03.540 So I'm going to believe that it was cancelled today.

00:39:05.660 But it's coming off the back of Colbert.

00:39:10.380 These things are crumbling because the artifice of lies is crumbling, because the infrastructure that requires the wickedness is no longer there.

00:39:19.060 And so we don't need ugly, untalented, falsely propped up people on television anymore.

00:39:25.200 And they're going to have to, you know, go rebuild and do something else.

00:39:27.700 Mark, do you mind looking up and seeing if you can pull that up, whether the view is cancelled today?

00:39:31.180 I actually haven't.

00:39:32.680 Wow.

00:39:33.540 The view will be cancelled.

00:39:35.920 Oh, Rosie O'Donnell fears the view will be cancelled for not aligning with Trump.

00:39:39.660 Oh, no, so you've ruined my day now.

00:39:40.760 You've ruined my day.

00:39:41.820 I was hoping the view would be cancelled while Meghan McCain was on it, so that she would always think it was her. 1.00

00:39:48.280 But I'm choosing to believe that it was cancelled.

00:39:53.420 But they are kind of trying to tell us, forgetting about the view, we are seeing that.

00:39:56.940 Everything's crumbling.

00:39:57.500 A lot of it is crumbling Hollywood's influence.

00:39:59.880 Howard Stern's contract was cancelled.

00:40:02.120 That's correct.

00:40:02.560 And these are things that are in themselves lies, because they are contracts that are not profitable, but are propped up by other things.

00:40:09.280 They are lies in themselves.

00:40:10.880 We've got to talk about this, because this is, I literally covered this on my show last week.

00:40:14.460 Barry Weiss.

00:40:15.840 This is the greatest example of this.

00:40:17.340 Oh, my goodness.

00:40:17.980 The free press.

00:40:18.740 They are trying to convince us.

00:40:20.300 Barry Weiss is worth a quarter of a billion dollars.

00:40:23.620 They have no views on YouTube.

00:40:25.380 There's a Jewish word for saying that your publication, the free press, is worth $250 million.

00:40:31.460 It's called chutzpah.

00:40:32.220 No, but everyone is actually investing.

00:40:36.120 Every billionaire is investing in her.

00:40:37.960 So let's actually think through this.

00:40:39.300 What are they doing?

00:40:40.380 It is so obvious that this publication, if we actually lived in a free market society, would be under.

00:40:46.000 So technically speaking, things are worth what somebody is willing to pay for them under capitalism.

00:40:52.060 There's a big buck coming.

00:40:52.960 So a company's valuation is determined by the price at which people are willing to buy in, to exchange capital for slices of the company.

00:41:06.100 And the ratio at which they do that determines what the whole thing is worth.

00:41:11.620 But it has been a very long time since people invested in companies solely for profitable returns.

00:41:18.320 We now live in a very different world.

00:41:20.280 We live in a late stage, monopolistic, decadent capitalist world in which everything is one of the same five corporations.

00:41:31.300 So it doesn't matter, and it never will, that that company isn't worth a tenth or a hundredth of what they say.

00:41:37.740 Because a multinational conglomerate that doesn't care will buy it at that valuation anyway and continue to run it at a loss if they choose to because it has cultural value.

00:41:46.980 But it doesn't have any cultural value.

00:41:47.880 No one's listening to Barry Weiss.

00:41:48.700 So what are they doing?

00:41:49.480 Are they pretending?

00:41:50.680 Well, what they're doing is building the propaganda machinery of tomorrow because the entire edifice of the prestige media has been so badly damaged and discredited by the last 10 years.

00:42:04.720 By themselves.

00:42:05.700 They did it themselves.

00:42:07.140 There is no publication out there that still commands the respect and adulation and trust of the public.

00:42:14.820 Nothing.

00:42:15.320 None of them.

00:42:15.760 And the ones that do have the most confidence of the public, we just defunded NPR and whatnot, which, you know, were coasting on a kind of authoritative tone to bamboozle people into thinking they were telling the truth.

00:42:31.740 Not really telling the truth.

00:42:32.960 But they did.

00:42:33.800 So we have an enormous vacuum in the media landscape that I think they're going to fill by overvaluing and then very quickly in the same way that hedge funds will buy.

00:42:46.100 You remember All Saints, that clothing store?

00:42:48.760 There was one in Spitalfields or Shoreditch in London and there was one somewhere else and then suddenly they were in every town.

00:42:54.100 It's the hedge fund thing.

00:42:55.120 It's the Blackstone thing.

00:42:56.200 It's the...

00:42:56.600 So they buy this and they're going to just federate it out.

00:43:00.000 There'll be...

00:43:00.920 Before you know it, there will be 5,000 free press journalists.

00:43:04.260 I totally agree with you.

00:43:04.760 And what are they really?

00:43:05.800 They're not journalists.

00:43:07.040 They are instruments of propaganda for the...

00:43:09.600 Yeah, the state.

00:43:10.660 For the...

00:43:11.060 Well, Orwell didn't foresee this, but for that sick mix of state and corrupt capitalism, the revolving door between Big Pharma, you know, Big Oil, the military industrial complex and the government, right?

00:43:25.440 All of it together.

00:43:26.340 And so those people require a complex, large and powerful propaganda system in order to get away with stuff like selling people poison and telling them it's medicine.

00:43:38.660 And to do that, they need people that the public will more or less buy and large trust.

00:43:43.660 So my read on Barry Weiss is that she is the most malleable, controllable, anodyne, empty-headed, willing to do, say, and be anything.

00:43:56.340 Person they could find and therefore is perfect to head up an organization that will be not a journalistic institution as we have known them, but rather a room of broadcasters for rent, depending on who that week needs to persuade the American public of some lies, whether it is the Israel lobby or Big Pharma.

00:44:19.740 Okay. So interesting question for you. A lot of people that are being propped up, a lot of people that have power are, in fact, especially in the media, gay and homosexuals, right?

00:44:28.580 Barry Weiss, she was married to a man, but now she's married to a woman and having children with a... 0.97

00:44:32.140 Well, lesbians aren't real. 1.00

00:44:33.280 Yeah. Well, lesbians aren't real. We'll tell that to Barry Weiss. 1.00

00:44:36.860 Well, nothing about her is real.

00:44:38.300 Well, what do you think of? A lot of people that are in power...

00:44:39.980 Especially her valuation.

00:44:41.680 Particularly her valuation.

00:44:42.800 Maybe that's why they chose it, you see, but a woman who believes that she's sexually attracted to another woman can believe anything. 0.99

00:44:49.680 I mean, if you're a woman, you convince yourself that you are sexually attracted to another woman.

00:44:53.360 I mean, even lesbians don't keep it up more than six months after they get married. 1.00

00:44:56.760 It's called lesbian bed death. 1.00

00:44:57.940 They stop having sex completely and they just turn into sort of, you know, miserable old knitters. 1.00

00:45:02.880 You know, sort of... 0.97

00:45:03.760 And then, of course, the domestic violence starts spooling up because the pretty one gets a boyfriend on the side 1.00

00:45:09.220 and the, you know, the big ugly dykey one beats the crap out of her twice a week. 1.00

00:45:13.420 Because it is what? A dysfunctional, disordered arrangement, which is guaranteed by virtue of its cacophony of lunging, flailing, mis-punching intentions to produce horrors like Dave Rubin's Frankenbabies. 0.97

00:45:33.580 When there's a thought of it, you know, just like, oh, let's both and then stir it and then see.

00:45:38.800 Like, oh my God.

00:45:39.900 Well, I think it'd be even like, okay, so another person in the media, like you had Don Lemon, you've got...

00:45:44.660 Why do you think, based on what we've discussed so far, would you choose gays to be the front man for the real powerful people whose names you'll never learn and who will never be held accountable? 0.65

00:45:55.800 Because they're so used to playing characters already.

00:45:58.340 They'll do whatever you want.

00:45:59.920 They'll say whatever you want.

00:46:01.240 They will actually, and in fact, inhabit the...

00:46:04.120 They will believe whatever they need to.

00:46:06.320 And they will be your endlessly and infinitely malleable propagandists and figureheads.

00:46:16.560 Because they are so used already to stitching together things on the fly and saying things they don't believe and having no idea what the real truth is.

00:46:25.740 And isn't that just what's happened to the press?

00:46:28.560 It's become homosexualized. 0.95

00:46:30.080 It's splintered.

00:46:30.700 And we have this now, we have chunks of things that kind of sort of work, but there's nothing at the heart of it.

00:46:37.360 It doesn't know what it's for.

00:46:38.360 It's forgotten its role as the fourth estate.

00:46:40.080 Why? 0.98

00:46:40.760 Because it is full of gay people doing PR. 1.00

00:46:45.260 Okay. 0.98

00:46:45.420 So here's a question for you.

00:46:47.580 How does the government win by trying to indoctrin everybody into an increasingly more homosexual culture? 1.00

00:46:54.400 Because it's, of course, the government has to win, right?

00:46:55.880 Because broken, damaged people are far more compliant because they're needier and they're weaker.

00:47:03.440 So people don't understand why big companies love diversity.

00:47:07.680 You're like, well, wouldn't that just like make you less efficient?

00:47:10.200 No, no.

00:47:10.660 It's because diverse workforces don't unionize.

00:47:14.720 Amazon loves diversity because if you have an Italian-American, a Mexican, a Guatemalan, and nobody knows what she is,

00:47:21.420 they won't get together outside of work and talk about what the boss is doing.

00:47:26.000 They won't have the same priorities.

00:47:27.780 They won't have the same way of doing things.

00:47:30.200 They probably won't even talk at work.

00:47:32.080 They'll find the other Mexican or they'll find the other whatever, or they'll just sort of sullenly do their job and go home. 0.99

00:47:36.460 And this completely divided, fractured, dysfunctional workforce that, you know, doesn't represent anything like the old factories or workplaces of the past where people were, you know, invested in each other's careers and kids and, you know, took things to the office.

00:47:52.400 You know, oh, I baked today or whatever.

00:47:54.540 You can't imagine that happening in an Amazon warehouse.

00:47:55.800 And it doesn't because these workforces are full of people so utterly different from one another who have nothing in common and don't really know how to communicate with one another and don't unless they have to.

00:48:08.900 Those workforces are neutralized in terms of political dissent or collective bargaining.

00:48:17.440 And Amazon will never have to worry about their workers all going out on strike one day because the wages are too low.

00:48:23.560 They'll never have to worry about the workforce having an attack of the vapors or morals saying we don't think we should sell this anymore.

00:48:30.420 I know it's very profitable for you, but we're not going to pack it.

00:48:32.640 They never have to worry about that because there aren't four people in that building who have enough in common to have a coffee at lunchtime and say we really should do something about this.

00:48:40.860 So in the same way, the government that is intricately involved in the sale and regulation and in some cases punishment of a variety of different poisons and drugs and all the rest of it, you know, I mean, they tell it basically they tell you which ones you can have and they give licenses to companies to profit from it.

00:49:01.360 So the more fractured and the more dumb and dependent the population is, the more they will need to play ball so that they get their Adderall, so that they get their paycheck, they don't fall behind with their compound interest payments for the television that they don't own.

00:49:20.040 So that they, you know, because with everybody living paycheck to paycheck and surrounded by these addictions and dependencies from their brokenness, from their disorder, from their misery, from their unhappiness, these cushions that they use or these medications or these whatever they are, you know, that they use to fix their mood from one day to the next. 0.89

00:49:43.180 They need that stuff.

00:50:13.180 And wouldn't choose, but which was sort of provided for them as, you know, as an aspirational lifestyle goal by the same press that, you know, and they can't afford and they're frightened of taking that time off and seeing what it would mean.

00:50:28.480 And then other things begin to happen, which you'll just start noticing now in the last 10, 20 years in America.

00:50:34.660 Other crazy making things start to happen.

00:50:36.520 I live in a house, a friend of mine, a friend of mine owns this house.

00:50:42.260 It is a 1920s travertine marble and concrete mansion, huge, whacking great thing on top of a hill.

00:50:48.580 And it is the only house I've ever been in in America that feels solid, like it might be here in 50 years.

00:50:54.040 Everything else in America, you must, having been to Europe so much now with your husband, you must.

00:51:00.380 The architecture is just.

00:51:01.260 Things just feel like they're going to last.

00:51:02.700 And you're not wrong.

00:51:04.440 You're not imagining it.

00:51:05.980 I always tell this story.

00:51:07.180 People get started with this, but my mother had a corkscrew that she bought in Paris when I was a baby, which she still had when I was 18.

00:51:17.360 And I know that because I stole it.

00:51:19.280 That worked fine.

00:51:20.380 And, you know, we're Brits, so we were drinkers.

00:51:22.500 I mean, she was using that thing every day. 1.00

00:51:23.600 And you can't buy one that lasts a year in America.

00:51:27.880 I mean, you're lucky if you can find one that lasts six months, right?

00:51:30.520 Everything about the built environment is becoming disposable, dispensable, fragile.

00:51:35.360 The walls are getting thinner so you can hear the people next to you.

00:51:38.500 And, you know, you might have somehow managed to beat the economics of 2025 and buy yourself a house.

00:51:47.120 But that house is falling apart the moment it's finished.

00:51:51.240 Things are peeling.

00:51:52.860 The workmanship is, you know, is terrible.

00:51:54.440 The materials are terrible.

00:51:55.960 Everything is done in a slipshod fashion.

00:52:01.000 And it makes people terrified of taking risks because so much about their life is uncertain or painful or uncontrollable or chaotic already.

00:52:12.620 And so, you know, you have people trapped in this jail trying to keep abreast of repairs on their house, repairs on the car.

00:52:21.980 I mean, every consumer device now is $2,000 or $3,000 in breaks, you know.

00:52:28.180 That is not all right.

00:52:30.360 But every single thing is like it now.

00:52:34.260 I was looking for...

00:52:35.620 Americans definitely have been kind of taught, sorry to cut you off, but Americans sort of have been taught to, like, embrace this new, new, new culture.

00:52:42.840 Stainless steel.

00:52:43.480 Everything is so clinical.

00:52:44.580 But it's sold as a signifier of wealth when anybody from a truly wealthy background in Europe will tell you that is this sign of poverty, of only being able to afford something that doesn't last.

00:52:57.540 But, you know, when black Americans were first emancipated and they were building these new lives, black consumers in America in the 1950s and 60s went into department stores and bought the best that they could afford, the best brands, the best quality brands, because they knew it had to last.

00:53:15.760 Because they were building a life that had a future.

00:53:18.560 They were looking ahead to their children having a destiny in America, and they wanted to build something real and something with foundation, right?

00:53:29.380 You hear a lot of black grandmas these days, like, that's your foundation, right? 1.00

00:53:32.320 It's a big word that you hear, like, maybe two generations up in black America.

00:53:35.940 That's your foundation.

00:53:37.220 Ayanla says it a lot.

00:53:38.300 You know, the Ayanla Van Zandt.

00:53:41.140 The consumers in the 1950s, if you worked in a department store, you would know if a black couple came in or a wife.

00:53:47.160 She wanted the, not the most ostentatious one, but the very best quality brand, better than the white people would buy. 0.77

00:53:56.040 And she was going to look after it, take care of it, have it for 20 years, you know?

00:53:59.620 That's what you do when you have an investment in the future.

00:54:03.200 That's what you do when you have hope for the future.

00:54:05.260 That's what you do when you're building something that will be a legacy for generations to come.

00:54:11.220 And what we have now, especially in white working class America, where the raison d'etre of the town has gone as well as everything falling to pieces, but really just in the country generally, is this flattening and cheapening of all our life through this fake, oh, wealthy people just throw it away when they're done with it. 0.89

00:54:32.780 You know, this sort of, this wealth mythology that Americans have been sold.

00:54:39.780 Like, if you can just buy another one, that means you're doing well, right?

00:54:43.860 It doesn't matter that it broke or that you buy, like, I was thinking at, I'm a cat person.

00:54:50.360 Um, uh, I was looking at, um, those robots, you know, that, um, that, because, you know, I'm not touching litter and my, you know, my maid can't be there every day.

00:55:00.400 Oh, yeah, the litter robots.

00:55:01.620 Yeah.

00:55:01.920 And, and the, the leader in the market, which costs $700, and they've been making these things since 1990, killed two cats three months ago.

00:55:10.020 They still haven't got it right.

00:55:11.500 They still don't make it right.

00:55:13.020 You know, I think either take it off the market or, or don't build cheap.

00:55:15.840 And the reason is that it was built so cheaply that the, the magnets kind of fell over and it's like trapped and killed, you know, because even things that are, um, designed to go in your home for the benefit of living creatures, um, are made with such contempt and carelessness and yet priced so astronomically as to, as to, um, as to make everyone crazy.

00:55:38.980 And it has made everyone crazy.

00:55:40.480 Yeah.

00:55:40.980 And I mean, and even in regards to food, the kind of this idea of like, well, we can feed more people.

00:55:44.940 What are you feeding them? 0.99

00:55:45.620 You're feeding them crap. 1.00

00:55:46.780 Nothing is ancestral anymore. 0.99

00:55:48.080 That's what I always say about America.

00:55:48.980 Nothing is ancestral.

00:55:49.980 When you say ancestral, I mean, even if you think about people's families, that people don't know where they come from anymore.

00:55:54.580 Right.

00:55:54.940 So there's nothing that has any substance.

00:55:56.440 There's nothing that has that foundation.

00:55:57.420 People can't imagine the world before they were born.

00:55:59.360 And they're trying to speed that up.

00:56:01.520 And that is, that is the danger that I see in AI.

00:56:04.160 It's the reason why, while everyone else is sort of embracing this, people were giving the heroes welcome when Elon Musk joined the, joined the administration.

00:56:12.320 I'm sitting here going, this is terrible.

00:56:13.640 This is not a good idea.

00:56:14.340 He actually believes in transhumanism.

00:56:16.940 Okay.

00:56:17.220 Is his father the founder of it or something?

00:56:19.000 Yeah.

00:56:19.260 His grandfather.

00:56:20.460 His granddad?

00:56:20.900 His grandfather was a part of this sort of transhumanist movement in Canada.

00:56:25.140 This is difficult for me because I'm going blind and I have about five or six years of vision left.

00:56:28.940 And so his chip is probably the only thing that's going to hold out any hope of me being able to make my own way.

00:56:34.920 You don't ever give the government access to your brain.

00:56:37.360 The problem is…

00:56:38.140 We already have given the government access to our brain and look at what's happened.

00:56:40.680 The problem is somebody could put me in pastels without me knowing.

00:56:43.300 And so he has some way to go in my recovery.

00:56:47.980 No, but, you know, his thing is just about the only…

00:56:52.980 I saw a woman writing it on the screen. 0.99

00:56:55.180 I was like, oh, that's one of those…

00:56:56.640 That's like Christ in the desert, kind of like a glass of water kind of territory.

00:57:01.120 And it's like, oh, I must have it.

00:57:02.080 You know, really mesmerizing, alluring, kind of sickening sort of an inducement, of an enticement, you know.

00:57:11.240 That's how they get you.

00:57:12.180 Yes.

00:57:12.700 Yes, of course.

00:57:14.120 I was amused to see that the latest iteration of self-driving cars is consistently turning people straight into oncoming traffic.

00:57:22.540 It's like, yeah, even the cars want to kill themselves.

00:57:26.220 It's like this is the whole thing.

00:57:27.380 It's like they want to control every aspect of your life, including your brain.

00:57:30.760 So it's not enough to just fill your mind with propaganda and lies every single day.

00:57:34.140 Now they're like, actually, open up your mind.

00:57:35.720 They want to steer your car for you.

00:57:37.720 What could possibly go wrong if you have these people who found…

00:57:41.020 Like the foundation of that transhumanist thought was the idea that they're like, hey, we don't actually believe in democracy. 1.00

00:57:46.280 We think too many people are stupid. 0.99

00:57:47.940 We are the smart people. 1.00

00:57:49.120 Allow us to, like, rule the world.

00:57:50.840 Actually, his grandfather, particularly Elon Musk's grandfather or great-grandfather in Canada, was a part of the technocratic movement, right?

00:57:58.200 So they believed in a technocracy.

00:57:59.220 This is my problem with America.

00:58:00.780 When you rip out God and the king, you can't replace it with the stars and stripes and a couple of slogans.

00:58:07.600 You can't just say, oh, freedom, 4th of July.

00:58:11.160 And think that an entire intricate system of human governance and flourishing and culture and faith that was all leading, tending up toward that capstone on earth as it is in heaven, an earthly reflection of the heavenly order, the aristocracy and the king, the angels and our Lord.

00:58:32.220 So rip that out of the heart of the system and expect everything to be okay because you don't just get rid of it.

00:58:38.320 You make room for something worse to move in.

00:58:40.560 Right.

00:58:40.880 Hollywood became the king and the queen.

00:58:42.600 Correct.

00:58:42.760 The Beyonce's, the Jay-Z's.

00:58:44.080 You see people worshipping Hollywood. 0.99

00:58:45.440 And the problem is that if you have a bad king, you're not supposed to, but you can kill him. 1.00

00:58:50.680 You can assassinate him. 0.99

00:58:51.520 And people do. 1.00

00:58:52.340 When there's a crazy, cruel, terrible king who's doing absolutely insane things, somebody kills him eventually. 0.94

00:59:00.240 But if you don't know the names of the people who are all over you, because they're all hiding behind the rippling stars and stripes like this, making a fortune from you, poisoning you, lying to you, experimenting on you, mutilating your children or convincing you to do it.

00:59:17.020 But, you know, this is when the Russians said that we'll know that America's conquered when people don't just, people will see their chains, love them and ask for more.

00:59:29.460 And don't we live in that situation now where we've got parents asking doctors to mutilate their own kids just to relieve their own consciences of whatever it was that they messed up during parenting or for even worse reasons.

00:59:44.860 I mean, the things that single mothers are prepared to do for their kids, there's almost no depth to the horror of it. 0.94

00:59:52.300 In 1776 does not make America a free of monarchy.

00:59:57.600 It just means you don't know who's in charge and you'll never be able to hold them accountable.

01:00:01.860 Who do you think is in charge?

01:00:04.540 Good question.

01:00:05.260 It seems obvious to me from everything we know about empires and long lasting cultures, how and when they fall, how and when they do it, the characteristics that it has.

01:00:18.860 I think we can see in that hints about the perpetual elite class that seems to kind of exist throughout.

01:00:28.100 Because those are the excesses, I think, that the elites embody that they can do.

01:00:36.120 But when it permeates down to the rest of society, things fall apart.

01:00:38.340 So at the end of Rome, you know, you have the Visigoths sacking the city and the senators are not doing what they're supposed to do.

01:00:46.280 They're not in the Senate. 1.00

01:00:47.380 They're out with child prostitutes or their gay orgies or their whatever. 0.99

01:00:53.420 When you start to see the, I think that Camille Paglia, who we're not supposed to quote anymore because people keep finding things about man-boy love in her books. 0.98

01:01:01.340 But other than that, she's pretty good on most subjects.

01:01:05.540 When she, she talks about this, she talks about the things that civilizations have in common just before the fall.

01:01:11.820 Every single one of them has a trans craze.

01:01:13.700 All of them.

01:01:14.340 Every single great empire, every single great culture that has ever existed in the history of human civilization has had some kind of genderqueer or male-female sex confusion right before the end. 0.83

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01:03:52.980 Well, this is why I've been quite interested in what the theology is that's guiding this because I think these people keep surviving every – they're at the top and then they kind of reinvent themselves and they get at the top again and then America is getting very close.

01:04:05.020 And the more that I examine getting back to Sigmund Freud and Hollywood, what was super interesting to me is to learn that the guiding theology seems to be the Kabbalah.

01:04:12.480 And when you think about what the Kabbalists believe, and part of it is oral tradition, so we'll never really know what they believe, but Sigmund Freud was a Kabbalist, at least if David Bacan and other historians are to be believed, there is this combination of a man becoming the woman.

01:04:27.460 And in Hollywood, Babylon, it talks about how we imported, which is where Sigmund Freud was living and working in Vienna.

01:04:33.980 They alt-veen, this old Vienna culture, literally came over. 0.96

01:04:37.480 They were bringing them over, these literal pedophiles, and Marlene Dietrich trying to tell women in America, which they did successfully, you should be wearing pantsuits, making these people seem iconic.

01:04:48.060 Like, oh my gosh, she's blending the male.

01:04:49.260 Oh, don't come from Marlene Dietrich.

01:04:51.680 That's going to make me very sad.

01:04:52.720 Yeah, no, she was one of them.

01:04:53.960 They brought her over. 0.75

01:04:54.560 I know.

01:04:54.820 They found her.

01:04:55.560 I know, I know, but I'm trying to –

01:04:57.200 No, you have to.

01:04:58.060 She's a part of this.

01:04:59.000 You don't know what it took for me to let go of dinosaurs.

01:05:01.380 And it took me years.

01:05:04.080 I know.

01:05:04.580 It took me years to let go of dinosaurs.

01:05:05.700 But dinosaurs is hard for guys.

01:05:06.640 Like, Jurassic Park is like the –

01:05:08.360 I know.

01:05:08.800 It is the – aside from – 1.00

01:05:11.280 They are fake and gay, though. 1.00

01:05:12.860 Aside from getting raped, it is the, like, seminal moment of my childhood. 1.00

01:05:16.120 Oh my god. 0.80

01:05:17.220 Sorry.

01:05:17.980 Dinosaurs.

01:05:18.740 No, going to see Jurassic Park in the movies for the first time.

01:05:21.800 I watched that movie 500 times.

01:05:24.040 I'm not exaggerating.

01:05:24.540 What is it about boys and dinosaurs?

01:05:25.620 They just love them so much.

01:05:26.600 Oh, we love them so much.

01:05:27.460 Right.

01:05:27.880 You like the idea of them.

01:05:29.120 I know that movie backwards.

01:05:30.680 I know every line of dialogue.

01:05:31.800 I had – I taught myself – you know, do you remember where she says, this is a Unix system.

01:05:38.640 I know this.

01:05:39.520 Lex, the computer geek girl who figures out how to lock the doors when the velociraptors – all right, okay, you don't know.

01:05:46.800 But when the velociraptors are hunting them in the visitor center right towards the end, she figures out how to close the doors.

01:05:52.820 Because, like, I bought a computer like that and taught myself – it was like – that was such a penetrating thing for me, Jurassic Park and dinosaurs.

01:06:06.660 Like, I wanted to use the same computer they had in the movie.

01:06:10.180 I had my – like, I had it on my – it was everywhere.

01:06:13.180 And I still love it.

01:06:14.100 And I still have a soft spot of it.

01:06:15.180 And to let go of dinosaurs is very difficult.

01:06:16.760 I'm not quite ready for Marlena Dietrich. 0.91

01:06:18.660 You know, you need to be ready for that because I'm telling you she was imported over here by a bunch of German pedophiles for a reason. 1.00

01:06:24.080 And then when you look at the pictures of her with Pierre Berger, Yves Saint Laurent, Pierre Leger, all of these people who are interested in bending the gender and fashion, the whole fashion, Balenciaga, the kids.

01:06:37.320 I mean, this is – now that I'm getting into the culture of Brigitte and who Brigitte was friends with and all of them just happened to have a thing for, you know, kids and pederasty.

01:06:44.540 You've been telling me about French designers and I've been very reassured by my instincts to discover that when I return to my wardrobe, it is Dolce & Gabbana, Versace, Loro Piana.

01:06:54.360 It's all Italian.

01:06:55.500 Yeah, I haven't – yeah, I haven't gotten into –

01:06:57.420 They have different problems.

01:06:58.120 They have different problems, yeah.

01:06:59.020 But the French designers –

01:07:00.280 The French designers all have –

01:07:01.560 They liked little boys.

01:07:02.640 Harems of catamines. 1.00

01:07:03.540 Yep, and they absolutely loved Marlene Dietrich for a reason.

01:07:05.860 Although I don't think that Karl Lagerfeld did, actually.

01:07:08.400 I think Karl Lagerfeld was gay, but I don't think he was into it.

01:07:12.860 I think he was one of the few that wasn't –

01:07:13.980 No, all I'm going to do is –

01:07:14.760 And the way that I know that is because he was very unrepentantly and joyfully racist and sexist and un-PC and he didn't seem to be part of the cult of conformity and have – you know, he didn't have anything in common with the other – I need to believe this, okay?

01:07:32.880 I will say this.

01:07:34.080 He has not yet come up in my research, so there's that.

01:07:36.120 Okay, so you have –

01:07:38.480 But the fashion industry really was built upon –

01:07:40.900 You have to allow me my fictions because I'll go crazy without them.

01:07:44.240 I'll allow Karl Lagerfeld to be your dinosaur.

01:07:46.500 We mentioned – no.

01:07:47.800 I'll let him be your dinosaur right now.

01:07:49.160 We mentioned on the last show that your radical skepticism is the only rational position in a world like ours.

01:07:55.460 But I am a romantic.

01:07:57.520 I am – you know, I'm with a capital R.

01:08:00.240 You know, and I can't go on with everything taken.

01:08:05.580 I must have – 0.74

01:08:06.260 Well, Yves Saint Laurent and Pierre Berger were into defecation during sex, so that's why they split up. 0.85

01:08:10.980 Well, yeah, them and every Saudi – 1.00

01:08:13.140 Yeah. 0.98

01:08:13.420 I mean, if you – so if you've ever seen anyone on Instagram that's kind of impossibly beautiful and usually mostly unclothed, that's a prostitute. 0.78

01:08:21.900 They are escorts.

01:08:22.760 And those people go to Dubai a couple times a year to have the most extraordinarily depraved things done to them in exchange for – 0.95

01:08:31.720 Right.

01:08:31.740 But this is what these fashion designers were into.

01:08:33.640 And so this is – as I'm researching – and sadly this came up when I was learning about Emmanuel Macron and the cast of characters around them. 0.95

01:08:40.620 But learning what they were into and a lot of their male prostitutes then spoke up and their sex slaves. 0.99

01:08:45.280 They had these sex slaves. 1.00

01:08:46.600 But it is quite stunning. 0.83

01:08:47.760 I bring this up only to really underscore that our entire society, Hollywood, right, was shaped.

01:08:54.500 We were literally all being unwittingly indoctrinated into a culture of homosexuality, transgenderism, you know, the belief of the male and the female coming together to form a one is cabalist. 0.60

01:09:06.740 This is more of a loss for you than it is for me because if you lose France, you lose Chanel and Dior.

01:09:10.940 And those are girl brands.

01:09:14.460 Whereas Italy – I mean, it would be devastating to lose Italian shoes or suits.

01:09:19.980 I'm now convinced.

01:09:20.640 So it's worse for women to lose France because France is the pinnacle of female fashion. 1.00

01:09:26.120 It's the home of haute couture, right?

01:09:28.380 So, you know, you want one of those extraordinarily expensive dresses cut just for you by, you know – 0.87

01:09:33.820 And you should read what they were doing.

01:09:35.560 Like they thought it was inspiring for them to be with these young boys.

01:09:38.800 I can imagine.

01:09:39.540 It ruins everything.

01:09:40.700 I was gay for long enough, I can imagine.

01:09:41.720 Yeah, exactly.

01:09:42.540 And this sadistic treatment of women, putting them – you know, the whole model culture and fashion, which sometimes –

01:09:50.640 is directed at the beautiful and sensual and pleasing.

01:09:54.900 But more often these days is a kind of ugly humiliation and debasement.

01:10:01.940 The things that – and this is – oh, no, we've got to give up Tyra Banks as well because she's puns. 1.00

01:10:07.880 The entire fashion industry.

01:10:09.580 I can't handle this much truth.

01:10:12.920 We know this.

01:10:13.880 We've got you for that. 0.98

01:10:14.560 We look at it now and we're like, okay, yeah, everybody in the fashion industry is gay.

01:10:17.840 But we didn't think it was – 0.97

01:10:18.460 But the humiliation that they put women through, the cruelty they put women through in fashion, the gay men. 1.00

01:10:22.620 Why? 0.93

01:10:22.960 Because they're visiting the – they know that their moms did it to them.

01:10:27.920 Oh, I have a question.

01:10:28.840 Yeah, I was going to ask you this. 0.99

01:10:29.980 So something that I have noticed, gay men hate women. 1.00

01:10:33.600 Too many of them. 0.99

01:10:34.320 Not all of them, obviously.

01:10:35.240 But what I'm saying is that there is a certain level of vitriol that is reserved for women. 1.00

01:10:41.320 Where does that come from?

01:10:42.480 I don't understand.

01:10:43.200 It is – they lash out at other women because they can't at their mothers who did it to them.

01:10:48.940 So when – I have this.

01:10:51.920 I have it.

01:10:52.420 I have it.

01:10:52.820 I'm not proud of it.

01:10:54.580 I mean, sometimes I am because it's funny and then I have to kind of catch myself.

01:10:59.680 Just the other day, I took more pleasure than I should, more pleasure, certainly than was charitable,

01:11:05.500 in sharing the, you know, sexual history and peccadilloes of some turning point influencer.

01:11:11.080 And I found myself posting a picture of a man she had public sex with at a TPSA party saying,

01:11:20.540 I really shouldn't post this.

01:11:23.840 She is getting married in 11 days.

01:11:26.360 She was.

01:11:28.680 You know, and it – I mean, in retrospect, yes, it is still funny.

01:11:33.340 And you could make a case that it's justified, but I didn't do it because I wanted to improve

01:11:39.480 the moral standing of women.

01:11:40.780 I did it because it was mean. 0.98

01:11:42.220 Yeah, but why do gay men have a mean streak? 1.00

01:11:44.400 It's because there is a wound that will never heal at the heart of every gay person made by their mothers 1.00

01:11:56.780 who, for instance – so you know that there's a higher self-reported incidence of homosexuality 0.95

01:12:05.860 in black and Jewish – among black and Jewish Americans.

01:12:10.380 Yes.

01:12:10.580 You can guess why, right? 0.91

01:12:12.220 Well, I definitely have noticed that there's a high incidence of a lot of gay people that are Jewish. 0.97

01:12:16.180 And black. 0.92

01:12:16.840 Black people, I would imagine, because of prison. 0.88

01:12:18.520 No. 0.98

01:12:19.120 Well, yes, fatherlessness, yes.

01:12:21.120 So if you have no male role models, it's bad enough.

01:12:24.340 But that's not what black kids experience. 0.96

01:12:26.500 Black kids experience a steady drip feed of poison from their own mothers about the male role models 0.99

01:12:33.000 they should have had who made them. 0.63

01:12:35.400 And eventually the mothers will start visiting this stuff on the sons when the sons become sufficiently

01:12:39.820 like their dad.

01:12:40.720 When they start having sex, when they start getting girlfriends, mom starts treating the son like –

01:12:45.160 But then what's the – what about Jewish people?

01:12:47.840 Because their families are together.

01:12:48.740 What is it – think about the Jewish marriages that you know.

01:12:51.860 Think about the couples.

01:12:53.200 You have almost – almost exclusively, you have larger-than-life, raucous women with nebbish, 1.00

01:12:59.880 scholarly, quiet men who take almost no interest in the raising of the children and the women

01:13:04.860 who are so unbearably, exhaustingly exasperating that the husbands just let them make all the

01:13:12.120 decisions about how the house goes, right, and how the house is run.

01:13:15.260 I like to compare Jewish weddings to – Jewish marriages to lion taming. 0.91

01:13:22.660 You have, you know, you have this little guy and it's unlike the female suffrage, let's say, 1.00

01:13:30.780 in London where it's the men granting it to the women.

01:13:36.060 The women are asking for it, but it's the men that have to give it to them. 1.00

01:13:38.200 But it was Jewish women who appointed themselves rabbis who said, my husband's an idiot. 1.00

01:13:45.120 I could be a rabbi, you know. 0.99

01:13:47.040 No, the Jewish women were behind the feminist movement in America. 1.00

01:13:50.040 They were behind the revolution in Russia. 0.97

01:13:52.880 So overbearing mothers and absent, inadequate, or neglectful fathers, that's a recipe for homosexuality. 1.00

01:14:01.220 Just as much as some other more physically traumatic or psychologically traumatic events might be.

01:14:10.500 That particular combination, the overbearing, micromanaging mother who thinks she knows best but does not know what a boy needs. 1.00

01:14:19.660 And the father who's useless or absent, or in my case is a killer, you know, that's how you make gays. 1.00

01:14:26.940 Crap dads and omnipresent octomom – well, not octomom, but you know what I mean. 1.00

01:14:32.680 But boys especially, they need a father or some kind of male role model. 1.00

01:14:38.740 Women cannot raise boys by themselves. 1.00

01:14:41.020 They don't know what men need to form platonic relationships with other men. 0.98

01:14:47.880 Because those moms never have themselves. 1.00

01:14:50.220 They've only ever bounced from unsatisfactory boyfriend to unsatisfactory boyfriend.

01:14:54.160 And in most cases, don't have a good relationship with their own brothers and fathers.

01:14:57.820 It's actually so interesting.

01:14:58.720 I think the biggest question you can ask anyone is what their relationship is like with their mother and their father.

01:15:03.660 Because this is the reason why they're attacking family.

01:15:05.800 Because when you come from a nuclear family, a healthy family dynamic, a mother and a father –

01:15:10.400 You are invulnerable to 90% of the warfare.

01:15:12.760 Yeah, that they're trying to –

01:15:13.800 Think about the Catholic family.

01:15:14.700 They want to enslave us. 0.98

01:15:16.280 So it's like the easiest way to enslave any people is to destroy their families.

01:15:21.560 Think about the Catholic families you know who aren't converts but have been like going to the parish for like 20 years, right? 0.98

01:15:26.100 Think about how unreachable they are by Lizzo or campus rape culture or transgender, whatever. 1.00

01:15:40.960 If they were even to hear of such things, which of course they do from time to time,

01:15:44.320 they would regard it with a mixture of pity, horror and amusement.

01:15:47.200 They're completely immunized against it because they have their needs met by an authentic relationship with our Lord and each other, a healthy family, right?

01:16:00.300 Because they have no – or at least less, fewer – dysfunctions, diseases, mental illnesses.

01:16:08.380 Of course, the vast majority of mental illness is just guilt from sin.

01:16:11.060 They have less of that because they're, you know, going to confession every – they don't need the B system.

01:16:16.720 They don't need the drugs.

01:16:18.220 They don't need to be lied to.

01:16:19.720 They don't need the mood fixes.

01:16:21.300 They don't need a car that's not even nice but just expensive looking and expensive and flimsy and on credit.

01:16:33.400 You know, Catholic – those Catholic families where everybody's – you kind of almost feel awkward to be around them. 1.00

01:16:38.460 It's like everybody's like so well-behaved, you know, don't say shit, don't say shit. 0.99

01:16:42.200 You know, in my brain, of course, it gets much worse than that. 0.99

01:16:45.840 You know, I'm just like – the most depraved thing I can think of pops into my head and I just have to leave.

01:16:50.380 But they're not tempted – they always drive – they drive hoopties, you know, because that's all you need.

01:16:56.900 It's like, who cares?

01:16:57.320 Those people who have a strong family and God, they don't need anything that the devil is selling.

01:17:09.880 So true.

01:17:10.560 You know, it's funny, going back to what you were saying about the transcendentals, I think about this even in regards to music.

01:17:16.240 So I can't listen to the music that I used to listen to.

01:17:18.940 Suddenly the cursing sounds very harsh to me, to my ears.

01:17:21.300 What have you gone off?

01:17:23.640 What did you used to like and don't know?

01:17:25.220 Well, I used to be able to listen to – I still have it on my phone, but like a lot of swearing, a lot of rap.

01:17:30.920 Negro music.

01:17:31.700 Well, I listen to everything.

01:17:32.980 I've always listened to everything.

01:17:34.000 You know, I mean, I grew up listening to Lauryn Hill and like Whitney Houston.

01:17:36.820 Oh, that's perfectly respectable.

01:17:37.760 Right, exactly.

01:17:38.580 But what I mean is that I used to be able to mix in –

01:17:41.300 I was the first person in England to buy the score CD.

01:17:42.100 I would almost say I actually started listening to more rap music when I got into college, you know, and even – I mean, so many different songs.

01:17:49.820 Even if I go back and listen to when I loved Christina Aguilera, right, like a normal teenage –

01:17:54.120 But there's something off about her now, isn't there?

01:17:55.760 When you go back and listen to it, I'm like, this is so sexual.

01:17:59.160 And she was 17 years old.

01:18:00.560 She's calling herself a genie in a bottle that needs to be rubbed. 1.00

01:18:03.040 And I'm like, this is pornography for your ears. 0.95

01:18:05.380 I'm a genie in a bottle, got to rub me the right way.

01:18:07.280 Yes, and she was 17 years old.

01:18:09.160 And when you see the Dirty video and you realize that this is a girl who has been wrecked by the entertainment industry and they then use her damage to sell sex in a different way. 1.00

01:18:18.480 Ariana Grande.

01:18:19.200 I've been it all night.

01:18:20.560 I've been it all day.

01:18:22.120 And when you actually abstain, it takes very – actually, when you begin abstaining, it isn't unlike a recovery in that your ears repair, your brain repairs.

01:18:31.920 Yes, but then when you –

01:18:33.060 So I understand.

01:18:33.600 I've never been on a diet.

01:18:34.420 But I understand that if you eat salad, you start not wanting –

01:18:39.140 challenge yourself to stop listening to maybe all music, right, for let's call it a month.

01:18:46.060 And then go back and try to listen to something with expletives.

01:18:49.080 And you suddenly go, whoa.

01:18:50.380 And you know why?

01:18:51.680 You know why?

01:18:52.280 It's Aristotle.

01:18:53.480 Habits become character.

01:18:54.900 We're creatures of routine and habit.

01:18:57.220 That's why we have to do the rosary, why we have to go to mass on Sundays.

01:19:00.200 Right.

01:19:00.280 It's why church is a regular commitment and not a one-off.

01:19:03.880 It's why we have to – it's why we're encouraged to do these rituals, right?

01:19:10.880 It's why Catholicism is so good for drug addicts snapping out of it because you can replace the bad rituals of the drugs and sex with the wholesome rituals of things like the rosary, right? 0.99

01:19:22.660 The angelos, whatever.

01:19:25.520 We are creatures of habit.

01:19:27.940 Indeed, half the species are creatures of a literal cycle, a repeating period of time that dictates everything about all of our lives.

01:19:38.340 But it's also, you know, it's kind of the primary way in which we measure time, the seasons, the months, you know.

01:19:43.860 But because of the natural cycle of womanhood, women find it especially easy to fall in. 1.00

01:19:50.380 So it's always women that you will find, you know, at the back of church doing their rosaries like every day at the same time.

01:19:54.780 Men find it difficult to be consistent about that sometimes because they're, you know, out here doing this, this, that, and wherever.

01:20:00.260 But we're creatures of habit.

01:20:02.220 And so we can make ourselves – you can get better.

01:20:06.800 You can get better.

01:20:08.080 What have you been drawn to that you didn't used to listen to that you do now? 0.51

01:20:11.640 And then I'm going to tell you a crazy story about what happened to me when I stopped being gay.

01:20:15.580 But what have you, like, what have you sort of started going, oh, okay.

01:20:21.340 A lot of things.

01:20:22.180 Well, first and foremost, I would say I did not when we first got married and my husband loves the chanting, the Gregorian chants.

01:20:28.900 It's difficult, isn't it?

01:20:29.820 It's a lot to take.

01:20:30.620 It's a lot to take in.

01:20:31.660 It is.

01:20:32.000 Even I have trouble with it.

01:20:33.180 The Anglican tradition is so much more, you know, the raw wedding music.

01:20:37.120 I was glad, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, all the grand, wonderful kind of pomp and ceremonies.

01:20:44.340 That is so much easier to listen to.

01:20:46.840 Right.

01:20:47.360 Than – look, a lot of Catholics have trouble with Gregorian chant.

01:20:51.400 It is – for me, I still find it more of a meditative aid than a pleasure I seek out.

01:20:56.500 Right.

01:20:56.800 But I think one of the things that I've noticed, though, is just kind of – which was what Bishop Ayer wrote in his book,

01:21:01.580 which I think was actually a major contributor to me wanting to be Catholic, was when he said that anything that becomes broken

01:21:08.500 and becomes away from being whole gets closer to the devil.

01:21:12.300 Right.

01:21:12.580 So if you start to break down a family, if you start to break down music, if you take down – if you take anything and you start to fracture it,

01:21:18.940 the more fractured it becomes, the closer it becomes to the devil.

01:21:21.320 Right.

01:21:21.800 Holy is holy.

01:21:23.220 So syncopation in that.

01:21:25.020 But think about it.

01:21:25.500 Holy is also W-H-O-L-L-Y.

01:21:28.200 Right.

01:21:28.340 It can be holy or holy.

01:21:29.420 But you want something to be whole.

01:21:30.700 Right.

01:21:31.020 And what the devil is constantly trying to do is to fracture things, like whether it's to fracture the family.

01:21:34.800 Well, wholesome is certainly – yeah.

01:21:36.400 Well, I now think of these two terms not unlike each other.

01:21:38.980 When I think of holy and I think of holy –

01:21:40.820 Well, the reason – yes.

01:21:41.740 I think that you –

01:21:43.220 This is correct because –

01:21:43.920 You want the family unit to be together.

01:21:46.400 You want the church to be together.

01:21:47.540 Even if you think about prostitism, what is it?

01:21:48.680 It's the constant breaking down.

01:21:50.240 Okay, well, this was the church.

01:21:51.880 Now we're this.

01:21:53.180 And then they break from them.

01:21:54.280 And then they break from them.

01:21:55.220 And then it's just constantly being fractured.

01:21:57.140 The greatest sin you can commit, aside from suicide perhaps, is schism. 0.73

01:22:01.020 To break, you know.

01:22:02.080 Right.

01:22:03.460 The way that I think about it, which I think is – I think we're saying the same thing, is the natural law that underpins our religious injunctions.

01:22:12.940 Is everything – is that things are correct when everything is performing the function for which it was intended.

01:22:20.420 Everything in its right place, you know.

01:22:21.960 And so when things are lifted out from or broken apart from their natural habitat and their natural function, they set off chain reactions of things going wrong.

01:22:34.200 Homosexuality would be an example. 1.00

01:22:35.160 But also, you know, there's all kinds of ways in which Christians will say, you know, let one sin in and the others will follow. 0.69

01:22:43.180 And they're describing the runaway effects of breaking a bit off. 0.88

01:22:46.840 And that's exactly what happens to gay personalities in a psychiatric sense. 0.70

01:22:52.720 And it's what happens to families, if the government can do it. 0.74

01:22:58.880 You know, some of the sickest and most depraved things that the government does are things that most viewers of your program probably won't know about.

01:23:07.800 And people like us will never encounter directly in our lives.

01:23:12.980 The ways in which the government treats people when they are down on their luck and trying to rebuild some semblance of a family unit.

01:23:22.700 The penalties, the financial penalties and the threat of homelessness that is dangled over the heads of single mothers.

01:23:30.760 Should they make the mistake of getting a boyfriend, you know, who could be a dad to their child, who could be a husband for them, who could, you know, who knows, but obviously some kids, whatever.

01:23:42.160 But they're seeking something more wholesome, more coherent, more closer to, you know, and the state, you know, there's so many people in this situation where if you're a single mom and you have a kid, you're going to lose.

01:23:58.720 If there's suddenly a live-in man, like you have a boyfriend around too much, you could lose your social housing and you could lose some or part of your welfare.

01:24:08.000 Like the perverse incentives that the system has set up for the only possible reason is to keep those people exactly where they are.

01:24:16.160 Exactly, to enslave people, a great society act, yeah, which is exactly what it was.

01:24:19.620 They mainstreamed welfarism by saying to women, hey, like it's a negative incentive, but don't marry the father. 0.95

01:24:24.060 They actually used to send people around to examine the homes to make sure there was no man living there, to make sure that there was a single woman.

01:24:31.020 It still happens.

01:24:32.100 Wow.

01:24:32.980 It still happens.

01:24:34.060 Not, you know, I've acquired through my former marriage, some, no marriage, you know, from my former relationship, some cousins in Philly who live, you know, much closer to that kind of life than I do.

01:24:51.880 And it still happens.

01:24:53.480 And people live in fear of improving their lot, of making wholesome, good choices designed to make their lives and their kids' lives healthier, wealthier, happier, more successful.

01:25:05.680 Because they're afraid that they'll get, they're afraid that they won't be able to survive in the gap that the savagery of the welfare system creates.

01:25:16.540 And it's, and it's all on purpose and it's all designed to keep them exactly where they are.

01:25:21.480 Single mom with a kid at home. 0.84

01:25:23.920 A kid therefore is being raised by harridans, termagants and witches at school. 0.98

01:25:31.100 Uh, and the mom is just too wrapped up in keeping the plate spinning to be able to think too much about what their child will be, uh, with, you know, what their aspirations might look like or, or, you know, where the family will be in 10 years.

01:25:46.940 She, she's exhausted and, uh, she still doesn't make all the bill payments every month. 0.99

01:25:51.360 And the kid is, you know, slowly being raised by, um, you know, these, these, uh, um, demons in schools with pink hair and pride flags, uh, told if they're a little bit froofy, a little bit, how do you do? 1.00

01:26:04.980 A little bit light in the loafers, sugar in the tank, uh, as we say in Philly, uh, you know, um, that, um, they're not gay, uh, from which there is a possibility of, uh, of recovery, but they need to have their penis chopped off. 0.99

01:26:17.340 And mom is so tired and addicted to her prescription medication and so exhausted and confused and unhappy, miserable, uh, and, and, and, and just demoralized and deflated that she goes along with it and even maybe find some comfort in it because she didn't want to be the woman on the block with a gay kid. 0.98

01:26:40.820 Um, and that is a deliberate construction of the people that we're talking about, the people behind, you know, the, the, um, Anderson Coopers and the, and the Don Lemons and the, um, uh, and the witches of the view now gratefully canceled.

01:26:58.340 It's canceled.

01:26:59.840 Um, just say it's canceled.

01:27:01.500 Uh, if I ever see a TV guide, I'll just, so my maid has been told anything that comes in a windowed envelope to just throw it away.

01:27:08.000 Uh, I started doing this 10 years ago and nothing bad happened.

01:27:10.580 So I just kept doing it.

01:27:11.260 It's brilliant.

01:27:12.020 Um, you know, if you, if you're like really, really owe somebody money, you find out about it eventually.

01:27:16.260 Um, so, uh, yeah, so I have, I have all these kinds of silly rules, um, that just keep me amused.

01:27:20.940 So I'm going to have a, I'll have the, the view cut out the TV guide downstairs.

01:27:24.580 Um, that doesn't exist.

01:27:25.720 It's gone.

01:27:26.240 It's gone.

01:27:27.520 It doesn't exist.

01:27:28.520 I don't see it.

01:27:29.220 Uh, um, but no, this, this, these, these terrible situations that so many people are in that have been architected by, uh,

01:27:38.000 uh, instruments of the prince of the power of the air.

01:27:41.340 So, you know, um, it's tough to, it's tough to, um, it's tough to look at America and not think that we are at that precipitous crisis at that moment of collapse that other empires have, have experienced.

01:27:59.100 Um, 10 years ago, Douglas Murray, who used to be so much more interesting than he is now, unfortunately, um, he said, uh, we're going to be squabbling over transgender pronouns when the mullahs nuke us.

01:28:10.320 Um, and, and, and, you know, what he was getting at was this, this sort of, um, decadent preoccupation with things we shouldn't even be discussing, let alone figure out what the right answer is.

01:28:18.580 Uh, you know, while we lose sight of a soft preservation and sanity and sense and everything else, it's, it's very difficult to look out and not, um, just say, you know what?

01:28:27.760 I'm going to go to church and make sure I'm good with God and stay away from everybody.

01:28:32.560 Uh, it's, it's, I've struggled with that because, you know, I had, I had a, um, as, as most people know, you know, I had a, a, a, a little hiccup in 2017 where I was, um, uh, found myself on national television apologizing for being raped.

01:28:45.980 Um, yeah, we should talk about that.

01:28:47.680 Maybe not, maybe not.

01:28:48.480 We don't need to get into the big subject.

01:28:49.940 But the point being, I had some time to think.

01:28:52.040 Yeah.

01:28:52.320 And it's been very hard for me to motivate myself to do anything in the public eye.

01:28:56.400 Now I, I have a new career now, which I like a lot more, uh, and I, I'm much more content than ever I was before.

01:29:02.640 But of course, from time to time, people will say, why don't you do this?

01:29:05.620 Why don't you do that?

01:29:06.500 It's been very difficult to motivate myself to get excited about any ideas and big money on the table at times, uh, for me to do a show or something.

01:29:12.600 I'm just like, what was the point?

01:29:14.140 I mean, Jesus is coming back in like 20 minutes.

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01:32:17.260 But do you find, I think that if you're good at writing and you're good at speaking and you understand the world the way that you understand it and the problems that are, and do have experienced a lot of what you've experienced.

01:32:27.860 I mean, I'm not trying to get you to speak about your sexual abuse, but I'm just saying that like to have lived that and to have then lived a life of homosexuality and then to say, okay, I woke up one day and I realized that I wanted to get into heaven. 0.89

01:32:37.940 And do you not think it's just as important?

01:32:39.980 Because like you said, you were married to a man.

01:32:41.320 So if I haven't suffered enough, I also have a moral responsibility for the next 50 years to help other people.

01:32:45.180 But don't you feel...

01:32:45.500 That's exactly my worry because...

01:32:46.840 But don't you feel that like if you, like you said, I really, I deeply regret that I was, you know, I'm married and I'm representing this homosexual lifestyle.

01:32:53.780 She's clever. She's clever. She remembered this.

01:32:55.720 Yeah, when you said that, you regret it.

01:32:56.780 You're so wily. You're so wily.

01:32:58.280 Why wouldn't you want to do the opposite and speak about these things and just be honest about everything that you've lived through and what you've done so that people can learn from you?

01:33:07.120 Because if I say, if I get onto a platform and I say, you know, homosexuality, you know, you'll start living a life of sin. 1.00

01:33:12.940 It may not have, if you're a person who's dealing with homosexuality or you're a person who's in school and someone's telling you you are a homosexual and maybe you don't feel like you are a homosexual, they may need to hear it from somebody else who's lived that life.

01:33:24.480 I will say this.

01:33:26.400 I have...

01:33:28.280 I've lived a life of immense privilege, unearned genetic advantage.

01:33:33.560 You know, I've really...

01:33:34.420 I know, I've had everything very easy.

01:33:36.720 And there have been a few things that have happened to me in my life that have been genuinely terrible and that most people probably wouldn't have dealt with like I did.

01:33:45.140 Maybe it's because I didn't have anything else to worry about or maybe I just built a resilient.

01:33:50.940 But finding somebody for the first time in 35 years that you think is the first person in your life that loves you back.

01:33:57.660 And that, you know, you finally don't feel so alone and thinking, well, I might be this, but at least I'm kind of...

01:34:02.440 Whatever.

01:34:02.700 And then having to give that person up because you realize you're living a life that's simply not acceptable to God.

01:34:08.720 And what it does to that person's life and what it does to your life.

01:34:11.540 That was the worst thing that I've ever done to another person.

01:34:13.620 Leaving your...

01:34:13.940 Leaving your...

01:34:14.940 The worst thing that's ever happened to me.

01:34:16.180 The worst thing I've ever done to another person.

01:34:17.140 And the worst thing about it was he knew already because, of course, you do when you care about somebody, you can see things happening.

01:34:24.500 He was messing with you spiritually.

01:34:26.340 He could sense that.

01:34:27.680 He knew that I wasn't in the room anymore.

01:34:30.060 I wasn't present in the room anymore and that I was having some kind of crisis about that part of my life.

01:34:38.540 And he knew already and he'd already come to terms with it and he'd done his grieving for the relationship.

01:34:41.980 So I'm there like, I've just ruined this person's life and they're being really nice to me and asking me if I'm okay.

01:34:47.080 Because I'm not.

01:34:49.680 And so that was horrible.

01:34:51.860 And, you know, the priest thing I said, I shouldn't say it again and get cancelled for another 10 years, but I will.

01:34:58.860 In common with a lot of people that this happens to, I didn't perceive it as being as bad at the time as the effect I now realize it had on me, right?

01:35:06.740 It wasn't like a...

01:35:07.800 It wasn't a violent, brutal situation, right?

01:35:11.980 And I didn't know until after I got cancelled, thanks, you know, when I had that time to...

01:35:17.080 That you had started loving your victim, not loving your oppressor, I mean like...

01:35:20.220 That I didn't realize that it was responsible for so much of me that was wrong, right?

01:35:26.220 And what it had done to me, I thought I kind of got away with it.

01:35:28.620 I even sort of thought, well, kind of, I think I was sort of the sexual aggressor in that situation.

01:35:33.040 You know, I didn't realize what it had left me with.

01:35:36.780 To have that, and then, you know, the husband, and then I have a lot of health problems now too.

01:35:44.320 I'm going blind and God knows what else.

01:35:47.180 I joke with my spiritual director that when I get to heaven, I'm going to march up to our Lord and say, I want an apology, say you're sorry.

01:35:53.960 And he says, our Lord will outstretch his hands and you will see his stigmata and you will feel profoundly ashamed for the fraction of a second before you plunge down into the lake of fire.

01:36:04.760 Don't do that when you get to heaven.

01:36:06.020 I'm just kidding.

01:36:07.140 But I have felt like that sometimes.

01:36:08.980 I have had that difficult relationship where I'm like, haven't you done enough?

01:36:11.960 Like, are we not good?

01:36:12.980 Like, enough?

01:36:14.840 And I've said to a few people recently, which always upsets them, but I mean it.

01:36:20.000 It's like, I'm ready to be with Jesus.

01:36:20.920 Like, I'm tired, you know, like I'm good.

01:36:23.020 But I have a feeling, and there's a reason for this, which is a horrible, gruesome reason that you won't want to hear, but I'm going to tell you anyway.

01:36:28.960 That, unfortunately, I think he has plans for me to be here for many decades yet doing something along the lines you suggest. 0.98

01:36:35.800 When I, all gay sex is an exercise in humiliation and in self-harm. 1.00

01:36:42.080 In my case, it was particularly so wanting to be physically subjugated by a much stronger, larger man. 0.99

01:36:50.120 And I settled on African-American men as being the sort of athletic, hyper-masculine thing that was doing it for me. 1.00

01:37:00.360 And in the course of, you know, over 20 years, I guess it would be 20, yeah, 20 years of being an active homosexual. 0.92

01:37:08.100 I mean, I had a lot of sex and a lot of unprotected sex with a lot of people from a group where half of all of them get AIDS. 0.98

01:37:17.580 50% of gay black men get HIV. 0.99

01:37:21.120 And I've done the math. 0.94

01:37:23.340 And it breaks every law of maths, physics, biology, and chemistry that I don't have HIV.

01:37:32.040 It is mathematically impossible that I don't have it.

01:37:34.840 But I don't.

01:37:36.320 And that is a God thing.

01:37:40.580 Yeah.

01:37:40.980 That is a God thing.

01:37:42.300 Because it would have been an easy way out.

01:37:45.160 Oh, yeah, yeah, fine, sure.

01:37:46.440 You're going to spread that misery around to others.

01:37:48.480 Be a participant in their sin as well.

01:37:53.520 You know, because you're two people doing it to each other at the same time as you're doing it to yourself. 0.98

01:37:58.000 So, and then you're going to make it okay to be a gay Republican, which is really bad, Myla. 0.93

01:38:02.660 And then you're just going to get to that. 0.97

01:38:04.460 No, no.

01:38:05.000 You've got five long decades of making it.

01:38:06.880 So, I know, I know, I know.

01:38:08.820 I'm dragging my feet at the moment because I'm enjoying this kind of interregnum fiction of being retired when in actual fact, you know who I work for.

01:38:16.740 And I'm like working like a dog all day, every day.

01:38:19.080 But I enjoy the, you know, I always like to make it look easy.

01:38:21.860 So, I always try to have an air of studied nonchalance.

01:38:24.820 So, I try to, I like to have this, I have this sort of thing I like.

01:38:30.440 Oh, no, I'm retired.

01:38:31.300 I'm retired.

01:38:31.820 I'm retired.

01:38:32.060 Sorry, you don't deserve me.

01:38:32.740 I'm retired.

01:38:33.320 But I know that at some point it will have to happen.

01:38:36.820 Yeah, I think so.

01:38:37.580 I mean, I would definitely.

01:38:38.960 Like Augustine, not yet.

01:38:41.620 Well, you'll know.

01:38:42.400 I think you'll know when the moment comes.

01:38:43.380 I think God puts people in their path for a reason.

01:38:46.720 And I think you've lived through a lot.

01:38:47.580 Right now, I know he wants me to do what I'm doing now because the person I'm working for needs me in certain ways.

01:38:51.380 And I know that I have to finish that task.

01:38:56.040 But after that, it'll be time to return to my duties.

01:39:00.320 Yeah, exactly.

01:39:01.000 I think so.

01:39:01.620 And next time you're going to be, I think you're going to be completely sober in a few years.

01:39:05.840 Sober from everything.

01:39:06.580 Oh, I'll never be that.

01:39:07.240 Now, come on.

01:39:07.700 The English can get sober. 1.00

01:39:08.660 I'm British.

01:39:10.680 That would be like saying go to a therapist. 0.99

01:39:12.560 It's ridiculous. 0.98

01:39:13.740 What we do instead is we bury it. 0.99

01:39:15.820 We bury it.

01:39:16.300 We bury it.

01:39:16.760 We drink and we invade Ghana. 1.00

01:39:19.680 No, there will be there will never be a day when I don't.

01:39:24.580 You know, I'm getting better.

01:39:25.860 I will say this.

01:39:26.360 Like Adderall got me off cocaine.

01:39:29.580 I continually get I continually take steps in good, positive, healthy directions.

01:39:35.520 I found myself being irritated with the fact that medication I was almost getting in the

01:39:41.860 way of my prayer life.

01:39:42.720 And I was like, oh, my God, who am I?

01:39:44.760 Who have I become?

01:39:46.240 It's just because I was like stumbling over my words.

01:39:47.860 And I was like, this is annoying.

01:39:49.180 Oh, God.

01:39:49.960 Pick the narcotics or the blessed mother.

01:39:53.360 Milo, who are you?

01:39:54.160 So I have confronted with those kinds of things now and normally don't disappoint myself.

01:40:00.640 But you will prize a pinot grigio out of my cold, dead hands, girl. 0.62

01:40:06.200 It is part of our holiest ceremony.

01:40:11.100 Wine is the substance that our Lord has chosen to manifest in.

01:40:19.380 It is drinking is Catholic.

01:40:23.800 Catholics drink. 0.97

01:40:24.760 That's all there is to it.

01:40:25.940 I have never trusted teetotal people.

01:40:28.060 I regard anybody who doesn't drink with extreme suspicion and contempt, honestly, to be honest

01:40:33.700 with you, which is really everyone in America.

01:40:35.840 But nobody drinks anymore.

01:40:38.440 I was very reassured to hear that you had a glass of wine under social pressure, which

01:40:41.680 means that you are not one of those people.

01:40:43.780 I did have a glass of wine or social pressure.

01:40:45.420 You did.

01:40:45.640 You did.

01:40:46.160 But one solitary glass of wine your whole life is not going to do too much damage.

01:40:49.760 Especially.

01:40:50.500 But that's reassuring because it means you're not one of the bad guys.

01:40:54.100 But there are people who would have said no.

01:40:56.300 Honestly, now I probably would say no.

01:40:58.320 It's just part of being a mom.

01:40:59.660 You've got to be up so early.

01:41:00.140 You've got to be up so early.

01:41:00.480 You've got to be an excuse.

01:41:01.320 Yeah, exactly.

01:41:02.340 I have to be up early with the cats, but I am still going to drink myself to sleep.

01:41:06.120 No, look, I'm not going to say that I have like the perfect clean and pious life.

01:41:12.840 I don't.

01:41:13.640 But I will say, within very narrow limits, I do like a drink or whatever.

01:41:21.160 And to some extent, I'm not making excuses for this classic sinner move about to happen here. 1.00

01:41:29.680 Well, really, it's because it stops me doing this worst thing.

01:41:32.220 But it does.

01:41:32.740 You know, having a couple glasses of wine and go to sleep instead of being up all night like I would have been before.

01:41:39.160 And 3 a.m. when the, you know, 3 a.m. is the witching hour for your libido.

01:41:43.800 You know, instead having drifted off nicely after a whiskey with a cat in my arm and a book on my lap. 0.85

01:41:50.060 That, for me, is a way better way to end the day than spending six hours tossing and turning wrestling with, you know, the semen demon.

01:41:57.940 So, so, sorry. 0.96

01:42:00.220 So, I have to call him that because I found that the most effective way to leave things behind was to make them ridiculous.

01:42:08.120 And so that it was sort of preposterous that I can't even imagine myself doing it. 1.00

01:42:12.740 Like, sex with black people? 1.00

01:42:14.680 Are you crazy? 1.00

01:42:15.940 Like, I tried to make it into a joke. 0.96

01:42:18.160 And now I kind of, like, laugh when I hear it.

01:42:20.240 So, it sort of feels like it was somebody else.

01:42:22.900 So, you know, I just turned everything into sort of an, I turned everything into an absurdity that is absurd, that is disordered, you know.

01:42:31.160 So, that was helpful for me because, you know, it's difficult to stay horny when you're laughing. 0.64

01:42:39.920 Although the British, anyway.

01:42:41.700 Anyway, so, you know, I think I have maybe a prematurely geriatric life and routine from which I will emerge one day.

01:42:52.600 But right now, while I'm staying on the straight and narrow, not falling off the wagon as far as the gay stuff goes. 1.00

01:42:58.400 And continuing to, you know, put in a good day's work for our friend and getting better with my spiritual life all the time.

01:43:10.340 I mean, I learned Latin, for goodness sake.

01:43:12.780 It's fantastic.

01:43:13.500 Drug addicts don't learn Latin in their spare time.

01:43:16.440 But I got a teacher for three years and now I can translate the Gospels and I understand the liturgies.

01:43:21.860 That's amazing.

01:43:22.260 It is amazing.

01:43:22.800 That is truly amazing.

01:43:23.680 It is amazing.

01:43:24.300 It is amazing.

01:43:24.980 It's the best thing I ever did in my whole life.

01:43:26.200 It is amazing.

01:43:29.480 That kind of stuff, I think, is really important to me to have like a decade off.

01:43:36.140 I'm a self-indulgent, lazy piece of, you know what, I have the personality I have, gay or straight, but I'm self-indulgent.

01:43:43.940 But I have tried to use the self-indulgent time somewhat wisely. 0.89

01:43:49.860 And I think I have.

01:43:54.320 When I come back, I'm going to be deadly.

01:43:58.240 Well, Milo, no one's ever doubted that you're brilliant.

01:44:00.680 And so what you'll fill your time with.

01:44:02.520 No, it's very, it's exhausting.

01:44:04.840 You know, it's suffocating.

01:44:06.220 I've always wanted to be more oblivious.

01:44:07.840 You know, I want to go through life, you know, like a woman or an ethnic minority, just sort of enjoying the sort of drift. 1.00

01:44:15.720 But I've always been sort of hyper aware and just meandering through life.

01:44:20.360 You know, you don't have that.

01:44:22.100 But, you know, just sort of, I don't know.

01:44:25.080 I can't remember if I parked on the third or the fourth floor.

01:44:27.260 I would love not to remember details.

01:44:29.720 I would love not to notice things.

01:44:31.080 I would love not to draw connections.

01:44:34.940 I would love it if I didn't know when people close to me were lying to me.

01:44:39.020 And I always do because I have this pattern matching brain that notices everything they're doing.

01:44:42.960 I'm like, why are you lying to me?

01:44:44.460 Maybe there's a good reason, but it makes me sad every time.

01:44:47.500 And I would love to take all those dials down, you know.

01:44:52.440 It's a great curse to be, you know, witty, brilliant, handsome, popular and successful.

01:44:59.060 There's a great line in David Brooks' book or something about how Disney punishes athletic kids

01:45:10.120 because it tells these ugly duckling failings to which they cannot possibly relate.

01:45:14.080 And, you know, it's the popular athletic kids at school who are the real victims

01:45:17.220 because they don't have any stories that speak to their lives.

01:45:21.500 It's all about, you know, it's all about losers and also rands.

01:45:26.200 And so, where's the kid's book for the cheerleader?

01:45:30.120 Where's the kid's book for the quarterback?

01:45:32.500 I like to say, you know, I've lived a life of extraordinary ease and privilege,

01:45:38.260 but I've never allowed that to stand in my way.

01:45:42.260 No, I think I know when I have conversations with people like you who are insightful

01:45:49.080 and have integrity and gently, in that lovely way, remind me I've got lots left to do.

01:45:57.200 I'm in such mom mode.

01:45:58.620 I'm always momming everyone.

01:45:59.440 No, but I need that because I didn't have a nice mom. 1.00

01:46:01.780 I had a cocaine addict.

01:46:03.560 So, you know, I didn't have a mother.

01:46:04.920 I had...

01:46:05.740 Because you can do better.

01:46:07.080 That's it.

01:46:07.460 It's like, you know, we all can do better.

01:46:09.540 So let me not make it seem like I'm excusing myself from that.

01:46:11.960 But you're brilliant.

01:46:13.900 And I obviously, a lot of my political philosophy or the beginning of my political philosophy

01:46:18.760 really began with reading you when you were on Breitbart.

01:46:21.500 And I know you have a lot to contribute.

01:46:22.880 And I got to read the political side, but you've lived through a lot, you know, 0.89

01:46:26.500 being a sex abuse victim.

01:46:28.120 I feel like Lauryn Hill.

01:46:29.200 I can't do a second album after this much pressure.

01:46:32.660 But I do think your voice is missing.

01:46:34.520 I think there's a lot of people that could...

01:46:36.700 I will tell you this, a decade of imitators and really nobody comes close.

01:46:40.780 It's been very sad, very tragic to watch.

01:46:43.320 You've blossomed remarkably and beautifully into somebody very formidable.

01:46:50.180 And a couple of other people have...

01:46:51.680 But other than that, it's quite a sorry field, isn't it?

01:46:54.340 It's starting to look like our architecture.

01:46:56.800 Yeah.

01:46:57.520 No, but no, it's flimsy.

01:46:59.840 It's very flimsy.

01:47:01.060 No, I mean, you look at...

01:47:01.700 It's getting really...

01:47:02.300 It's really basic out there.

01:47:04.180 The standard...

01:47:05.140 I mean, the standard of discourse on the conservative right...

01:47:07.660 It's not interesting at all.

01:47:08.280 It's 20 IQ points lower, even than it was in 2015.

01:47:11.400 It's so basic.

01:47:12.160 We were smart in 2015.

01:47:13.180 It's like a starter pack.

01:47:14.060 We were funny.

01:47:14.800 We were smart.

01:47:15.500 And now...

01:47:16.080 Interesting.

01:47:17.020 Yeah.

01:47:17.340 And now you have like three clans.

01:47:19.360 And one of them just says,

01:47:20.580 Jew, Jew, Jew all day. 0.75

01:47:21.720 And one of them says this, and one of them says that.

01:47:22.980 It's just...

01:47:23.340 It's so intolerably dull.

01:47:25.920 Boring.

01:47:26.400 It's very boring.

01:47:26.640 Not one of them has ever been to an art gallery.

01:47:28.820 Not one of them has ever read a real book.

01:47:30.680 You know, I mean, I will eat this mic if, you know, if it emerges that Nick Fwenzel has

01:47:38.500 ever read any book, cover to cover.

01:47:40.580 Like, these people don't know anything.

01:47:42.220 And it's...

01:47:42.940 So it does frustrate me.

01:47:43.800 I think part of it is that even the people...

01:47:46.040 Maybe at some point people were reading books.

01:47:48.000 And then I think the problem is once you have a platform...

01:47:49.960 Well, they were reading mine and then I retired.

01:47:51.580 So that's my fault.

01:47:53.120 Once you have a platform and you're in that feedback loop and people are like,

01:47:56.500 you're amazing, you're great.

01:47:57.920 Maybe people stop learning.

01:47:58.940 They become less interested.

01:48:00.260 I think that they've arrived at the end, the conclusion.

01:48:02.460 And if you're not learning, you're dying.

01:48:04.080 I did write a lot of bad books for other people, which has contributed to the general

01:48:09.300 collapse in standards because I've been ghostwriting in those 10 years.

01:48:14.180 And, you know, the kinds of people you're ghostwriting for, they're not intellectuals.

01:48:21.980 And so, you know, I think I've...

01:48:24.360 Really, it's all my fault, isn't it?

01:48:25.940 Yeah. 1.00

01:48:26.520 I made it dumb, fake, and gay. 1.00

01:48:28.340 Yeah. 1.00

01:48:28.760 I think that is actually a perfect place to end it.

01:48:31.560 It's all Milo's fault. 1.00

01:48:33.020 He has made everything dumb and fake and gay. 1.00

01:48:36.500 Yep. 1.00

01:48:36.760 And this is the problem that we find ourselves in in American society. 1.00

01:48:39.500 Everything is dumb, fake, and gay because of Violinopoulos. 1.00

01:48:41.760 I'm so sorry. 1.00

01:48:42.360 It could have been better.

01:48:43.200 I'm so sorry, you guys.

01:48:44.140 Sorry.

01:48:44.580 Bye-bye.

01:48:44.740 I'm going to buy a castle in Hungary and wish you the best.

01:48:49.380 Milo, thank you so much for joining.

01:48:51.000 Thank you, my darling.

01:48:51.320 We're definitely going to have you back.

01:48:52.380 Thank you, love.

01:48:52.840 Bye-bye.

01:48:53.900 Bye-bye.

01:49:11.740 Bye-bye.

01:49:13.980 Bye-bye.

Candace Owens - September 05, 2025

Candace x Milo： The Rise of the Gaytriarchy ｜ Candace Ep 234

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