00:00:00.000All right, you guys, I feel like today is a probably a very great day to discuss homosexuality.
00:00:04.460OK, so I grew up in the 90s and we were taught in school that some people are born gay.
00:00:10.840The older that I get and I speak to people who struggle with homosexuality or live out homosexual lives.
00:00:17.840And actually, the majority of them don't think they were born gay.
00:00:20.380They typically will correlate their homosexuality to some event that's happened in their past.
00:00:25.480Well, I want to discuss this theme today because virtually everything that I'm reading right now, whether it's Hollywood Babylon or getting into Sigmund Freud and the history of Jewish mysticism, there is some element of homosexuality.
00:00:39.420Is this a part of an occultic practice?
00:00:42.240Has homosexuality been pushed upon our society because it is disordering?
00:00:46.760Are we even allowed to say that on YouTube?
00:00:48.240Anyways, here to join me, Milo Yiannopoulos.
00:03:59.000It's very interesting because, like I said, I grew up and you learn in school, if you go to the public school system, that some people are gay, some people are straights.
00:04:08.120And we need to normalize homosexuality.
00:04:10.780That's why we have terms like homophobic.
00:04:14.380I guess it means you're scared of gay people running down the street.
00:04:17.240Well, if you're a baby, you should be afraid of getting trafficked to a homosexual couple.
00:04:21.040Homophobia is pretty rational if you're a vulnerable young foster kid or something.
00:04:26.140Well, I think about this now and having read, and I asked you to read this book ahead of this discussion, but having read Hollywood Babylon and getting into Sigmund Freud and the sort of mystical tradition, it's really interesting because we, of course, have no memory of what happened on this earth before we were here.
00:04:41.140And I think I sort of assumed, obviously very wrongly, that there was always this kind of current of homosexuality in American culture, but it actually happened quite quickly and beyond quite quickly.
00:04:52.440It also happened quite intentionally when you take a look at the establishment of Hollywood and them thinking through how to infect the Christian culture in America.
00:05:03.640And that had happened a few different times in different ways elsewhere in the history of Western civilization, but really prior to, I mean, prior to the Middle Ages that homosexuality is sort of conceived of completely differently in the same way that race is.
00:05:17.720You know, people living in 1100, which have no idea what we were talking about, we were talking about somebody being white or not white in the American way.
00:05:25.900But the most recent explosion of this, funnily enough, happened, in a way it was kind of a test run for what the media later did with Trump.
00:05:37.360The first, I think, full assault, full media assault, like what they did to Trump, like what they did on January 6th, was about conversion therapy in the 80s.
00:05:49.920And at that time, you know, after maybe half a century of this stuff, you know, digging in after the 1910s, 20s and 30s in Hollywood, you know, half a century has passed.
00:06:01.380And people still think homosexuals are dirty and sleazy and it's a moral choice.
00:06:11.720So what the campaigners came up with was, well, if it's, hang on a second, if it's like being black or if it's like being a woman, then if somebody doesn't like it, they're a bigot.
00:06:23.120So the Born This Way mythology was created to meet ideological objectives out of whole cloth.
00:06:30.180And it has never been even remotely demonstrated by science.
00:06:34.500The closest that anybody will truthfully get is, say, there appear to be some people who have some sort of predispositions, maybe, but it is vastly more to do with nurture than it is to do with nature.
00:06:48.420And in any case, even if you are one of those people that just pops out, you know, in sequence, seeing Mariah Carey, it is possible to overcome what are disordered urges.
00:07:01.540They call it unwanted same-sex attraction.
00:07:03.800I think it's the PC term that YouTube is right with.
00:07:06.720It is possible to, even though you may be suffering with what is a terrible curse, not do it.
00:07:27.440And I think that the best example of that currently, because we're living through that, is this insistence that people are born trans.
00:07:34.900And you can see how they infect that propaganda, how it starts.
00:07:38.960And thinking about Hollywood, how it starts with the television screens and I Am Jazz was sort of the first time that they did this TLC show.
00:07:47.920I don't know if you're familiar with this.
00:08:10.560People are always amazed at the horrors that parents can do to their own children.
00:08:15.320But they shouldn't be because people do all kinds of terrible things to their kids.
00:08:19.220You know, whether it's everyday neglect or it's something more serious and more dramatic.
00:08:24.060The trans thing fixed a really big problem for the parents of gay kids or kids who show signs of those sorts of behaviors early on.
00:08:35.780Which lots do because the damage happens early.
00:08:38.780Fixed a big problem, which is what did I do wrong?
00:08:41.580Because if you don't have a gay child that you messed up, but instead have a trans child who has a problem, who has a disease, who has a syndrome, who has something on them, then you're off the hook.
00:08:53.040In fact, you're victims because your kid has got this thing that nobody would ever want for their own child.
00:08:59.380And so you become brave and you become a hero and your child becomes the crucible in which your social anxieties about having messed up as a parent and made your kid gay, which is what you did, are resolved and sanctified.
00:09:15.320Because in fact, all of these kids who are seized and mutilated, if they were left alone, would be what we would call, you know, like gay men.
00:09:25.980And if without the interference, without the injection into the process of these crazed trans campaigners, they would have a hope of a way out.
00:09:39.440But once you've started chopping things off, you create so many psychological and body image problems that you're no longer just dealing with the fact that you had an overbearing mother, an absent father, and you didn't form sustainable platonic relationships with men as a young boy.
00:09:58.220And something went wrong in your head, you know, or that you got raped and it happened because it could happen for any mixture or all of those reasons.
00:10:06.680I had a bit of all of them. Once you start chopping part of that person off, you cut them off from salvation, you cut them off from redemption, you cut them off from hope.
00:10:18.900Because if you can stop doing that stuff, at least you're still you and you have potential and possibility and you could do and be anything as long as you're still like, you know, in possession of your health, your faculties, your whatever.
00:10:31.360But once you start mutilating somebody because parents find it easier to believe their kids have a disease, which is not their fault, then they messed up as parents and they're gay.
00:10:42.200Even if you were able to somehow switch the trajectory of your desire from one sex to another, which does happen, it's not, you know, not everybody goes into conversion therapy wins.
00:10:54.100It's, you know, best case scenario, you've got like a one in five chance. It's not good odds, better than cancer, but it's not great.
00:10:58.440But if you start cutting things off immediately, there's nowhere to come home to.
00:11:05.740And the problem that gay kids have is that they start early on being different people in front of different audiences.
00:11:13.600So they know that, for instance, they can't be their sassy selves in front of their grandparents, let's say, because they're whatever.
00:11:18.920And this, this eventually unchecked becomes a kind of fractured personality, which is the bedrock reason why gay people are, you know, always so dishonest and always so always up to stuff, you know, because they have these competing identities that are not reconciled.
00:11:36.520And they are playing characters in front of different people who become almost like fully fledged people in their own right.
00:11:43.180And it is a kind of, I mean, it's, you know, lay person schizophrenia.
00:11:47.160It's not, it's not schizophrenia, but it's, it, it becomes disorientated and it becomes debilitating.
00:11:52.680And, and, and you, you, what you're able to do, if you have different people you can lean into and lean out of, like an actor, but in real life, you're able to do things to those characters because they're not you.
00:12:03.840And you might not know really where the you is, but, um, uh, the person, the, the character that is, um, the sexual, uh, person, you can begin to degrade them.
00:12:16.700You can get off on them suffering, uh, even if it's you because it's role play and every, because everything is in your life because, uh, you've, you're now simply replacing one facade with another constantly everywhere you go.
00:12:32.120Yeah. And so, um, because, because your personality is kind of broken into bits, uh, you can at any point see any of it as not being really you and you can do awful things to it.
00:12:42.660It's so funny that you say that because somebody that I know who used to live a homosexual lifestyle and doesn't anymore, I was opening up to him about this gay guy that we had hired a while ago who very quickly was lying to us and stealing from us.
00:12:54.900And he was fantastic at his job. We were so good to him.
00:12:57.740And the question that he asked me, he said, you know, was there something about it?
00:13:01.840He said a lot of gay men are sociopaths because they have to lie so much about who they are and what they're doing.
00:13:07.820Like, and it shapes their brain early on.
00:13:10.120And then later on in life, it becomes very easy when you're lying.
00:13:12.740You don't even feel like you're lying because you've nurtured this ability to be dishonest for so long.
00:13:17.800Look, I wouldn't say that it, because they have to lie about who they are, because there's, there's, there's a, there's a little, um, there's something hidden in there.
00:13:25.760There's a little something embedded in there that suggests that maybe it's homophobia that makes them, uh, damaged or miserable.
00:13:33.360Um, what they're doing, what, what, what people with these, uh, um, disordered desires are doing, knowing that it is wrong and that it is not normal.
00:13:42.460And you, you know that you're supposed to be into girls.
00:13:46.580I just wasn't really feeling it, you know?
00:13:48.240Um, but you feel drawn to this other thing and you know that it's wrong and it's as much wanting to distance yourself from the moral responsibility and culpability of doing it as it is presenting different faces as well.
00:14:01.340Um, that, that, that become the reason why, uh, gays have this sort of fractured personality, but it's not sociopathy.
00:14:09.220They're, and that hysteria is not the, um, shallow hysteria of, um, of a, of a sociopathic mom who's going to drown her kid.
00:14:16.340It's different, uh, they're in pain, they're hurting, uh, and when they cry, it's real, but they're, they're bouncing between different personalities and different identities.
00:14:25.220And, and, and, and your, your, your man there, um, it was like, from his perspective, it's like somebody else was doing that.
00:14:32.820Um, like, like he, and he is responsible and he did do it and he must have the consequences because it will help him to reintegrate.
00:14:41.520And they now call conversion therapy reintegrative therapy for the reason, for reasons that you will, uh, immediately understand having listened to you talk.
00:14:49.080Um, uh, they, they, they, they need that impetus.
00:14:53.180So they need to get caught, you know, um, but it, but they are in pain acting out.
00:14:57.160And very often you find with gays, um, uh, they will do this stuff almost to get caught because they want somebody to notice that everything's not all right.
00:15:03.780Um, and when the, when the alphabetized CD collection, uh, perfect employee, um, who's kind of, you know, like, yes, I'll take care of that for you, um, needs you to know that they're in pain.
00:15:16.640They'll do something like steal or they'll do something like, uh, uh, you know, say, or, or, or do something despicable, whatever.
00:15:24.380Uh, they're acting out because they want to be noticed.
00:15:50.520And yes, if you go to rehab, you don't have a 100% chance of getting sober.
00:15:54.780If you are taking meth, you don't have a 100% chance of getting sober, but knowing and saying to a society that this is an unhealthy, something that you are doing.
00:16:11.940If you tell somebody that that's what they are, more even than who they are, you're robbing them of the ability to make changes.
00:16:21.120Yeah, like you're an alcoholic because it's totally a genetic trait and your dad was an alcoholic and now you're an alcoholic and it's not your fault.
00:16:26.000And there's nothing we can do about it.
00:16:27.060I mean, in a way, you should probably just drink.
00:16:30.100And we'll deal with the consequences later.
00:16:32.540Robbing that person maybe of the ability to get sober and to have a family, you know, to stop beating their wife or to get their kids back or something.
00:16:47.560When I say, like, what's the problem with telling somebody that it's what they are, I don't know, that you immediately got it because you have children now.
00:17:24.940Well, what's also interesting about it, though, is like, you know, a lot of people get into these situations and that's why it's been fascinating for me to know people who identify as homosexual and all of them.
00:17:35.400The one thing that is agreed upon them is that they they actually don't think they were born this way.
00:17:39.780One of them has mommy issues, says, OK, my mother was bipolar and she drove both me and my brother to never want to be around women again.
00:17:47.100And now we're both choosing to be gay.
00:17:48.540Another person said I had daddy issues.
00:17:50.520As my daddy walked out, I wasn't around him and then I looked, you know, I sought to have that relationship with men when I got older.
00:17:56.780You could say this even for women who can understand this in another context.
00:17:59.440A lot of the women who you will see sleep with tons of guys, it's because their dads weren't around.
00:18:10.100Well, I always knew that it was sick and wrong for two men to raise a baby.
00:18:21.060And I never wanted to have any part of that.
00:18:23.600And I feel some responsibility for elevating what you might call out and proud homosexuality into an acceptable position in right wing politics in America.
00:18:41.240I feel a lot of things about that, about my personal responsibility for that.
00:18:47.880But I regret it very deeply because although I thought at the time I was being sufficiently tongue-in-cheek and subtle that people would get, you know, the nuances to it, they did not.
00:18:59.840And you just ended up with Lady Margot.
00:19:01.940And although I said in every speech I ever gave, if I had a button I could push to make me straight, I would.
00:19:09.280And so, you know, there was a moment when it looked like it might be a good idea if people who had this terrible affliction at least lived as close to wholesome lives as possible.
00:19:23.060So we go from being the taboo-breaking, drug-taking, promiscuous subculture to people who are living about, you know, about as good as you can, you know, despite the fact that your life revolves around a dysfunction or around a horror like that.
00:19:40.560At least, you know, you don't need to, like, throw the rest of your life away.
00:22:42.760I don't know if there's ever been a hate crime.
00:22:44.540I mean, definitely like, you know, 300 years ago, terrible, you know, there were atrocities happening across racial lines because there was understanding that people weren't people.
00:22:53.960But has there ever really been a hate crime?
00:22:55.740When you say hate crime, it's so stupid.
00:22:57.400I'm like, has anybody ever committed a crime against someone that they love?
00:22:59.260Like, what do we mean when we even say hate crime?
00:23:14.260And there are still people I know that are watching right now that do not realize that the entire movie, the play, the Matthew Shepard thing is all one big myth.
00:23:23.420Look at the way that progressives will rewrite their own founding mythology to suit the mores of the day.
00:23:32.280You think they're not worried about lying to you?
00:23:34.520It's now accepted wisdom among the wokest of the gay community that it was trans people who won gay rights at Stonewall, who marched.
00:23:48.460The white gays do all the, you know, do all the interesting stuff.
00:23:52.220They're all the fashion designers, you know, blah, blah, blah.
00:23:54.020But because white gays have fallen out of fashion with the intersectional crowd, now they've just sort of completely rewritten who it was that participated in this, you know, civil rights event in history.
00:24:05.020They completely rewrite their own mythology with no compunction whatsoever.
00:24:08.960And they have no hesitation in lying to us about things that happened.
00:24:13.060And I think we're now seeing, we did a show not long ago about one particular country that is guilty of, you know, just the most extraordinary machine gun of psyops and lies and misrepresentations, just hoping that enough of it sticks.
00:24:34.300But our society functions not on the truth, but primarily on lies.
00:24:39.520I mean, most of the things that are said in American public life, on television, in newspapers, in the academy, are not true.
00:24:46.560And this is very dangerous because people with conditions or with disorders where they're trying to figure out what's real, they have no hope in a society like this.
00:24:57.140Because it is now, I think we live in America in a state now of epistemological crisis where it is no longer possible for a regular person with access to, you know, regular people things to even figure out how they would find out if something that they heard on TV was true.
00:25:15.660So if a politician tells you, well, this bill is bad because it's going to increase the deficit to a point where the country will not recover financially.
00:25:24.780And you're like, well, I don't think money is real, but can't they just, even if you took all the premises, there's no way to even find out.
00:25:34.040There's no way for somebody to go and find out, like, is that true?
00:25:36.180Who is telling me the truth out of the Republicans and Democrats or out of the neocons and the Margaret people?
00:25:42.080Who is telling me the truth about this, about this, what should be a black and white math problem?
00:25:48.800And so we're hopeless on things like sexuality that are so, that are not concrete, that are not tangible.
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00:28:51.420No, it's really interesting, because even if you examine, there are all of these founding myths.
00:28:55.420Like, for BLM, they needed to have that George Floyd thing to really set fire to everything.
00:28:59.660Or actually, before the George Floyd thing, what happened in—who was it?
00:29:03.780Michael—what was the person down in Florida?
00:29:29.800They just saw a black guy, and they said, let's choke him out for nine minutes and hope that he dies.
00:29:34.040And nothing—nobody just goes for a moment, wait a second.
00:29:38.120I've lived in America a very long time.
00:29:40.360I've never seen or heard this thing happen.
00:29:42.900But the media, they are so good at getting psychologically convincing people that, no, this is exactly how it happens.
00:29:49.560My British is going to come out now, but I think this is how this country was founded, on a trumped-up Reddit libertarian hissy fit that was not really all it was cracked up to be,
00:30:00.320but was the basis for a destructive and a self-harm story.
00:30:06.560You know, a founding mythology of a country that ripped out the natural system of government that is supposed to obtain over men on earth,
00:30:22.280There is something a little similar about the way this country was founded to what you're talking about,
00:30:28.340which might suggest why this country is so vulnerable and so susceptible to precisely this kind of psychological and political warfare,
00:30:38.180because it is how the nation knows itself, how it was born, was in a fit of injustice that was corrected by a few brave men taking a stand.
00:32:13.020You literally—now that I'm getting into the Freemason reign—
00:32:15.440And is it any wonder that a country founded on a fake and gay mythology would have as its primary export, just a couple of hundred years later, sodomy as a condition of foreign aid?
00:32:31.780But getting into the homosexuality and looking into B'nai B'rith, this was actually one of the Masonic lodges that Sigmund Freud was a part of.
00:32:38.640And that's why it made me think about this, because they were definitely very involved in what was happening in the South.
00:32:43.080They were very involved in what's happening today.
00:32:44.160B'nai B'rith then became the ADL, the ADL that we had today.
00:33:05.900So they actually—in their core, by the way, they hate Christians, okay?
00:33:10.240They hate—I would argue that they hate the nuclear family, because that comes with everything that comes down right from Christendom, like the nuclear family, the idea of a functional family.
00:33:19.220And when you look at the things that they're pushing in our society, it's constantly an attack on the family unit.
00:33:25.340Let's think about it in terms of Catholic theology, the transcendentals.
00:33:29.280These are those qualities of reality that all people are drawn to that give us a little taste of what our Lord may be like.
00:33:38.880And depending on whose theology you read, typically there's four of them, beauty, truth, goodness, and unity, right?
00:33:44.680So you often hear religious people talking about the good, the beautiful, and the true, right?
00:33:47.920Those are the things that the ADL wages war against, along with all of the other bodies of a similar kind.
00:33:54.880They will celebrate the ugliest statues possible.
00:33:59.540They will spread as many lies as possible, and they will propagate and seek to enshrine evil and wretched things, Planned Parenthood, whatever.
00:34:11.440The good, the beautiful, and the true.
00:34:12.980And, of course, they create disharmony and disunity and break people apart.
00:34:16.980It is those things that I always find it very helpful to think about the way that the enemy has fought over the last 100 years in this country in terms of those things, the transcendentals.
00:34:29.900Because it sort of checks off all the fronts they've been fighting on.
00:34:35.280They've been getting it, even if we haven't.
00:34:37.020Well, America didn't because it's Protestant.
00:34:51.580Which is that those things tend to go together.
00:34:54.760And if you make a society that is beautiful and it tells the truth, it's likely also to be good.
00:35:00.980And if you have somebody who always tells the truth and has good morals, they're probably going to express those things in beautiful language.
00:35:09.580These things somehow have a relationship together because they're all qualities of God, but also because they seem somehow to lead to one another.
00:35:17.840And many people come to the faith, especially the Catholic faith, through art, through architecture, through beauty, because they see something in it.
00:35:25.420They feel something kind of humming behind it.
00:35:29.220And eventually it tumbles into the good and the true things they find out about God later.
00:35:33.740But they're drawn in by something objectively, independently beautiful, eternally beautiful about something that they have seen or a melody they have heard or all of those things.
00:35:45.280You know, the great richness of the Western, whatever, by unpicking the mutually reinforcing structure that used to fuel our culture and hold us all together.
00:37:00.500But seriously, they're trying to train our minds to believe that everything is subjective.
00:37:04.120And there's something about that perspective that is fundamentally satanic and demonic and backwards because it's like, no, stop trying to convince me that this really ugly modern contraption that you're calling a building is just as beautiful as when I step into a Catholic cathedral.
00:37:20.380And so, and so the Russians understand this, right?
00:37:22.860And so when they talk, when, when you hear the KGB guys talking about demoralization of a population, right?
00:37:31.880They're saying they understand that if you make people say things they know aren't true and support things they know are bad and admire or perform admiration towards things they find ugly, they're going to get depressed.
00:37:48.280When you say something that you know to be untrue, I used to talk about this.
00:39:00.260Well, I like to believe it and I'm never going to watch it again.
00:39:03.540So I'm going to believe that it was cancelled today.
00:39:05.660But it's coming off the back of Colbert.
00:39:10.380These things are crumbling because the artifice of lies is crumbling, because the infrastructure that requires the wickedness is no longer there.
00:39:19.060And so we don't need ugly, untalented, falsely propped up people on television anymore.
00:39:25.200And they're going to have to, you know, go rebuild and do something else.
00:39:27.700Mark, do you mind looking up and seeing if you can pull that up, whether the view is cancelled today?
00:40:52.960So a company's valuation is determined by the price at which people are willing to buy in, to exchange capital for slices of the company.
00:41:06.100And the ratio at which they do that determines what the whole thing is worth.
00:41:11.620But it has been a very long time since people invested in companies solely for profitable returns.
00:41:18.320We now live in a very different world.
00:41:20.280We live in a late stage, monopolistic, decadent capitalist world in which everything is one of the same five corporations.
00:41:31.300So it doesn't matter, and it never will, that that company isn't worth a tenth or a hundredth of what they say.
00:41:37.740Because a multinational conglomerate that doesn't care will buy it at that valuation anyway and continue to run it at a loss if they choose to because it has cultural value.
00:41:46.980But it doesn't have any cultural value.
00:41:50.680Well, what they're doing is building the propaganda machinery of tomorrow because the entire edifice of the prestige media has been so badly damaged and discredited by the last 10 years.
00:42:15.760And the ones that do have the most confidence of the public, we just defunded NPR and whatnot, which, you know, were coasting on a kind of authoritative tone to bamboozle people into thinking they were telling the truth.
00:42:33.800So we have an enormous vacuum in the media landscape that I think they're going to fill by overvaluing and then very quickly in the same way that hedge funds will buy.
00:42:46.100You remember All Saints, that clothing store?
00:42:48.760There was one in Spitalfields or Shoreditch in London and there was one somewhere else and then suddenly they were in every town.
00:43:11.060Well, Orwell didn't foresee this, but for that sick mix of state and corrupt capitalism, the revolving door between Big Pharma, you know, Big Oil, the military industrial complex and the government, right?
00:43:26.340And so those people require a complex, large and powerful propaganda system in order to get away with stuff like selling people poison and telling them it's medicine.
00:43:38.660And to do that, they need people that the public will more or less buy and large trust.
00:43:43.660So my read on Barry Weiss is that she is the most malleable, controllable, anodyne, empty-headed, willing to do, say, and be anything.
00:43:56.340Person they could find and therefore is perfect to head up an organization that will be not a journalistic institution as we have known them, but rather a room of broadcasters for rent, depending on who that week needs to persuade the American public of some lies, whether it is the Israel lobby or Big Pharma.
00:44:19.740Okay. So interesting question for you. A lot of people that are being propped up, a lot of people that have power are, in fact, especially in the media, gay and homosexuals, right?
00:44:28.580Barry Weiss, she was married to a man, but now she's married to a woman and having children with a...
00:45:03.760And then, of course, the domestic violence starts spooling up because the pretty one gets a boyfriend on the side
00:45:09.220and the, you know, the big ugly dykey one beats the crap out of her twice a week.
00:45:13.420Because it is what? A dysfunctional, disordered arrangement, which is guaranteed by virtue of its cacophony of lunging, flailing, mis-punching intentions to produce horrors like Dave Rubin's Frankenbabies.
00:45:33.580When there's a thought of it, you know, just like, oh, let's both and then stir it and then see.
00:45:39.900Well, I think it'd be even like, okay, so another person in the media, like you had Don Lemon, you've got...
00:45:44.660Why do you think, based on what we've discussed so far, would you choose gays to be the front man for the real powerful people whose names you'll never learn and who will never be held accountable?
00:45:55.800Because they're so used to playing characters already.
00:46:01.240They will actually, and in fact, inhabit the...
00:46:04.120They will believe whatever they need to.
00:46:06.320And they will be your endlessly and infinitely malleable propagandists and figureheads.
00:46:16.560Because they are so used already to stitching together things on the fly and saying things they don't believe and having no idea what the real truth is.
00:46:25.740And isn't that just what's happened to the press?
00:47:27.780They won't have the same way of doing things.
00:47:30.200They probably won't even talk at work.
00:47:32.080They'll find the other Mexican or they'll find the other whatever, or they'll just sort of sullenly do their job and go home.
00:47:36.460And this completely divided, fractured, dysfunctional workforce that, you know, doesn't represent anything like the old factories or workplaces of the past where people were, you know, invested in each other's careers and kids and, you know, took things to the office.
00:47:52.400You know, oh, I baked today or whatever.
00:47:54.540You can't imagine that happening in an Amazon warehouse.
00:47:55.800And it doesn't because these workforces are full of people so utterly different from one another who have nothing in common and don't really know how to communicate with one another and don't unless they have to.
00:48:08.900Those workforces are neutralized in terms of political dissent or collective bargaining.
00:48:17.440And Amazon will never have to worry about their workers all going out on strike one day because the wages are too low.
00:48:23.560They'll never have to worry about the workforce having an attack of the vapors or morals saying we don't think we should sell this anymore.
00:48:30.420I know it's very profitable for you, but we're not going to pack it.
00:48:32.640They never have to worry about that because there aren't four people in that building who have enough in common to have a coffee at lunchtime and say we really should do something about this.
00:48:40.860So in the same way, the government that is intricately involved in the sale and regulation and in some cases punishment of a variety of different poisons and drugs and all the rest of it, you know, I mean, they tell it basically they tell you which ones you can have and they give licenses to companies to profit from it.
00:49:01.360So the more fractured and the more dumb and dependent the population is, the more they will need to play ball so that they get their Adderall, so that they get their paycheck, they don't fall behind with their compound interest payments for the television that they don't own.
00:49:20.040So that they, you know, because with everybody living paycheck to paycheck and surrounded by these addictions and dependencies from their brokenness, from their disorder, from their misery, from their unhappiness, these cushions that they use or these medications or these whatever they are, you know, that they use to fix their mood from one day to the next.
00:50:13.180And wouldn't choose, but which was sort of provided for them as, you know, as an aspirational lifestyle goal by the same press that, you know, and they can't afford and they're frightened of taking that time off and seeing what it would mean.
00:50:28.480And then other things begin to happen, which you'll just start noticing now in the last 10, 20 years in America.
00:50:34.660Other crazy making things start to happen.
00:50:36.520I live in a house, a friend of mine, a friend of mine owns this house.
00:50:42.260It is a 1920s travertine marble and concrete mansion, huge, whacking great thing on top of a hill.
00:50:48.580And it is the only house I've ever been in in America that feels solid, like it might be here in 50 years.
00:50:54.040Everything else in America, you must, having been to Europe so much now with your husband, you must.
00:51:55.960Everything is done in a slipshod fashion.
00:52:01.000And it makes people terrified of taking risks because so much about their life is uncertain or painful or uncontrollable or chaotic already.
00:52:12.620And so, you know, you have people trapped in this jail trying to keep abreast of repairs on their house, repairs on the car.
00:52:21.980I mean, every consumer device now is $2,000 or $3,000 in breaks, you know.
00:52:35.620Americans definitely have been kind of taught, sorry to cut you off, but Americans sort of have been taught to, like, embrace this new, new, new culture.
00:52:44.580But it's sold as a signifier of wealth when anybody from a truly wealthy background in Europe will tell you that is this sign of poverty, of only being able to afford something that doesn't last.
00:52:57.540But, you know, when black Americans were first emancipated and they were building these new lives, black consumers in America in the 1950s and 60s went into department stores and bought the best that they could afford, the best brands, the best quality brands, because they knew it had to last.
00:53:15.760Because they were building a life that had a future.
00:53:18.560They were looking ahead to their children having a destiny in America, and they wanted to build something real and something with foundation, right?
00:53:29.380You hear a lot of black grandmas these days, like, that's your foundation, right?
00:53:32.320It's a big word that you hear, like, maybe two generations up in black America.
00:53:41.140The consumers in the 1950s, if you worked in a department store, you would know if a black couple came in or a wife.
00:53:47.160She wanted the, not the most ostentatious one, but the very best quality brand, better than the white people would buy.
00:53:56.040And she was going to look after it, take care of it, have it for 20 years, you know?
00:53:59.620That's what you do when you have an investment in the future.
00:54:03.200That's what you do when you have hope for the future.
00:54:05.260That's what you do when you're building something that will be a legacy for generations to come.
00:54:11.220And what we have now, especially in white working class America, where the raison d'etre of the town has gone as well as everything falling to pieces, but really just in the country generally, is this flattening and cheapening of all our life through this fake, oh, wealthy people just throw it away when they're done with it.
00:54:32.780You know, this sort of, this wealth mythology that Americans have been sold.
00:54:39.780Like, if you can just buy another one, that means you're doing well, right?
00:54:43.860It doesn't matter that it broke or that you buy, like, I was thinking at, I'm a cat person.
00:54:50.360Um, uh, I was looking at, um, those robots, you know, that, um, that, because, you know, I'm not touching litter and my, you know, my maid can't be there every day.
00:55:01.920And, and the, the leader in the market, which costs $700, and they've been making these things since 1990, killed two cats three months ago.
00:55:13.020You know, I think either take it off the market or, or don't build cheap.
00:55:15.840And the reason is that it was built so cheaply that the, the magnets kind of fell over and it's like trapped and killed, you know, because even things that are, um, designed to go in your home for the benefit of living creatures, um, are made with such contempt and carelessness and yet priced so astronomically as to, as to, um, as to make everyone crazy.
00:56:01.520And that is, that is the danger that I see in AI.
00:56:04.160It's the reason why, while everyone else is sort of embracing this, people were giving the heroes welcome when Elon Musk joined the, joined the administration.
00:56:12.320I'm sitting here going, this is terrible.
00:57:50.840Actually, his grandfather, particularly Elon Musk's grandfather or great-grandfather in Canada, was a part of the technocratic movement, right?
00:58:00.780When you rip out God and the king, you can't replace it with the stars and stripes and a couple of slogans.
00:58:07.600You can't just say, oh, freedom, 4th of July.
00:58:11.160And think that an entire intricate system of human governance and flourishing and culture and faith that was all leading, tending up toward that capstone on earth as it is in heaven, an earthly reflection of the heavenly order, the aristocracy and the king, the angels and our Lord.
00:58:32.220So rip that out of the heart of the system and expect everything to be okay because you don't just get rid of it.
00:58:38.320You make room for something worse to move in.
00:58:52.340When there's a crazy, cruel, terrible king who's doing absolutely insane things, somebody kills him eventually.
00:59:00.240But if you don't know the names of the people who are all over you, because they're all hiding behind the rippling stars and stripes like this, making a fortune from you, poisoning you, lying to you, experimenting on you, mutilating your children or convincing you to do it.
00:59:17.020But, you know, this is when the Russians said that we'll know that America's conquered when people don't just, people will see their chains, love them and ask for more.
00:59:29.460And don't we live in that situation now where we've got parents asking doctors to mutilate their own kids just to relieve their own consciences of whatever it was that they messed up during parenting or for even worse reasons.
00:59:44.860I mean, the things that single mothers are prepared to do for their kids, there's almost no depth to the horror of it.
00:59:52.300In 1776 does not make America a free of monarchy.
00:59:57.600It just means you don't know who's in charge and you'll never be able to hold them accountable.
01:00:05.260It seems obvious to me from everything we know about empires and long lasting cultures, how and when they fall, how and when they do it, the characteristics that it has.
01:00:18.860I think we can see in that hints about the perpetual elite class that seems to kind of exist throughout.
01:00:28.100Because those are the excesses, I think, that the elites embody that they can do.
01:00:36.120But when it permeates down to the rest of society, things fall apart.
01:00:38.340So at the end of Rome, you know, you have the Visigoths sacking the city and the senators are not doing what they're supposed to do.
01:00:47.380They're out with child prostitutes or their gay orgies or their whatever.
01:00:53.420When you start to see the, I think that Camille Paglia, who we're not supposed to quote anymore because people keep finding things about man-boy love in her books.
01:01:01.340But other than that, she's pretty good on most subjects.
01:01:05.540When she, she talks about this, she talks about the things that civilizations have in common just before the fall.
01:01:11.820Every single one of them has a trans craze.
01:01:14.340Every single great empire, every single great culture that has ever existed in the history of human civilization has had some kind of genderqueer or male-female sex confusion right before the end.
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01:03:52.980Well, this is why I've been quite interested in what the theology is that's guiding this because I think these people keep surviving every – they're at the top and then they kind of reinvent themselves and they get at the top again and then America is getting very close.
01:04:05.020And the more that I examine getting back to Sigmund Freud and Hollywood, what was super interesting to me is to learn that the guiding theology seems to be the Kabbalah.
01:04:12.480And when you think about what the Kabbalists believe, and part of it is oral tradition, so we'll never really know what they believe, but Sigmund Freud was a Kabbalist, at least if David Bacan and other historians are to be believed, there is this combination of a man becoming the woman.
01:04:27.460And in Hollywood, Babylon, it talks about how we imported, which is where Sigmund Freud was living and working in Vienna.
01:04:33.980They alt-veen, this old Vienna culture, literally came over.
01:04:37.480They were bringing them over, these literal pedophiles, and Marlene Dietrich trying to tell women in America, which they did successfully, you should be wearing pantsuits, making these people seem iconic.
01:04:48.060Like, oh my gosh, she's blending the male.
01:05:39.520Lex, the computer geek girl who figures out how to lock the doors when the velociraptors – all right, okay, you don't know.
01:05:46.800But when the velociraptors are hunting them in the visitor center right towards the end, she figures out how to close the doors.
01:05:52.820Because, like, I bought a computer like that and taught myself – it was like – that was such a penetrating thing for me, Jurassic Park and dinosaurs.
01:06:06.660Like, I wanted to use the same computer they had in the movie.
01:06:10.180I had my – like, I had it on my – it was everywhere.
01:06:15.180And to let go of dinosaurs is very difficult.
01:06:16.760I'm not quite ready for Marlena Dietrich.
01:06:18.660You know, you need to be ready for that because I'm telling you she was imported over here by a bunch of German pedophiles for a reason.
01:06:24.080And then when you look at the pictures of her with Pierre Berger, Yves Saint Laurent, Pierre Leger, all of these people who are interested in bending the gender and fashion, the whole fashion, Balenciaga, the kids.
01:06:37.320I mean, this is – now that I'm getting into the culture of Brigitte and who Brigitte was friends with and all of them just happened to have a thing for, you know, kids and pederasty.
01:06:44.540You've been telling me about French designers and I've been very reassured by my instincts to discover that when I return to my wardrobe, it is Dolce & Gabbana, Versace, Loro Piana.
01:07:14.760And the way that I know that is because he was very unrepentantly and joyfully racist and sexist and un-PC and he didn't seem to be part of the cult of conformity and have – you know, he didn't have anything in common with the other – I need to believe this, okay?
01:08:13.420I mean, if you – so if you've ever seen anyone on Instagram that's kind of impossibly beautiful and usually mostly unclothed, that's a prostitute.
01:08:31.740But this is what these fashion designers were into.
01:08:33.640And so this is – as I'm researching – and sadly this came up when I was learning about Emmanuel Macron and the cast of characters around them.
01:08:40.620But learning what they were into and a lot of their male prostitutes then spoke up and their sex slaves.
01:08:47.760I bring this up only to really underscore that our entire society, Hollywood, right, was shaped.
01:08:54.500We were literally all being unwittingly indoctrinated into a culture of homosexuality, transgenderism, you know, the belief of the male and the female coming together to form a one is cabalist.
01:09:06.740This is more of a loss for you than it is for me because if you lose France, you lose Chanel and Dior.
01:15:16.280So it's like the easiest way to enslave any people is to destroy their families.
01:15:21.560Think about the Catholic families you know who aren't converts but have been like going to the parish for like 20 years, right?
01:15:26.100Think about how unreachable they are by Lizzo or campus rape culture or transgender, whatever.
01:15:40.960If they were even to hear of such things, which of course they do from time to time,
01:15:44.320they would regard it with a mixture of pity, horror and amusement.
01:15:47.200They're completely immunized against it because they have their needs met by an authentic relationship with our Lord and each other, a healthy family, right?
01:16:00.300Because they have no – or at least less, fewer – dysfunctions, diseases, mental illnesses.
01:16:08.380Of course, the vast majority of mental illness is just guilt from sin.
01:16:11.060They have less of that because they're, you know, going to confession every – they don't need the B system.
01:17:38.580But what I mean is that I used to be able to mix in –
01:17:41.300I was the first person in England to buy the score CD.
01:17:42.100I would almost say I actually started listening to more rap music when I got into college, you know, and even – I mean, so many different songs.
01:17:49.820Even if I go back and listen to when I loved Christina Aguilera, right, like a normal teenage –
01:17:54.120But there's something off about her now, isn't there?
01:17:55.760When you go back and listen to it, I'm like, this is so sexual.
01:18:09.160And when you see the Dirty video and you realize that this is a girl who has been wrecked by the entertainment industry and they then use her damage to sell sex in a different way.
01:18:22.120And when you actually abstain, it takes very – actually, when you begin abstaining, it isn't unlike a recovery in that your ears repair, your brain repairs.
01:19:00.280It's why church is a regular commitment and not a one-off.
01:19:03.880It's why we have to – it's why we're encouraged to do these rituals, right?
01:19:10.880It's why Catholicism is so good for drug addicts snapping out of it because you can replace the bad rituals of the drugs and sex with the wholesome rituals of things like the rosary, right?
01:21:12.580So if you start to break down a family, if you start to break down music, if you take down – if you take anything and you start to fracture it,
01:21:18.940the more fractured it becomes, the closer it becomes to the devil.
01:22:03.460The way that I think about it, which I think is – I think we're saying the same thing, is the natural law that underpins our religious injunctions.
01:22:12.940Is everything – is that things are correct when everything is performing the function for which it was intended.
01:22:20.420Everything in its right place, you know.
01:22:21.960And so when things are lifted out from or broken apart from their natural habitat and their natural function, they set off chain reactions of things going wrong.
01:22:35.160But also, you know, there's all kinds of ways in which Christians will say, you know, let one sin in and the others will follow.
01:22:43.180And they're describing the runaway effects of breaking a bit off.
01:22:46.840And that's exactly what happens to gay personalities in a psychiatric sense.
01:22:52.720And it's what happens to families, if the government can do it.
01:22:58.880You know, some of the sickest and most depraved things that the government does are things that most viewers of your program probably won't know about.
01:23:07.800And people like us will never encounter directly in our lives.
01:23:12.980The ways in which the government treats people when they are down on their luck and trying to rebuild some semblance of a family unit.
01:23:22.700The penalties, the financial penalties and the threat of homelessness that is dangled over the heads of single mothers.
01:23:30.760Should they make the mistake of getting a boyfriend, you know, who could be a dad to their child, who could be a husband for them, who could, you know, who knows, but obviously some kids, whatever.
01:23:42.160But they're seeking something more wholesome, more coherent, more closer to, you know, and the state, you know, there's so many people in this situation where if you're a single mom and you have a kid, you're going to lose.
01:23:58.720If there's suddenly a live-in man, like you have a boyfriend around too much, you could lose your social housing and you could lose some or part of your welfare.
01:24:08.000Like the perverse incentives that the system has set up for the only possible reason is to keep those people exactly where they are.
01:24:16.160Exactly, to enslave people, a great society act, yeah, which is exactly what it was.
01:24:19.620They mainstreamed welfarism by saying to women, hey, like it's a negative incentive, but don't marry the father.
01:24:24.060They actually used to send people around to examine the homes to make sure there was no man living there, to make sure that there was a single woman.
01:24:34.060Not, you know, I've acquired through my former marriage, some, no marriage, you know, from my former relationship, some cousins in Philly who live, you know, much closer to that kind of life than I do.
01:24:53.480And people live in fear of improving their lot, of making wholesome, good choices designed to make their lives and their kids' lives healthier, wealthier, happier, more successful.
01:25:05.680Because they're afraid that they'll get, they're afraid that they won't be able to survive in the gap that the savagery of the welfare system creates.
01:25:16.540And it's, and it's all on purpose and it's all designed to keep them exactly where they are.
01:25:23.920A kid therefore is being raised by harridans, termagants and witches at school.
01:25:31.100Uh, and the mom is just too wrapped up in keeping the plate spinning to be able to think too much about what their child will be, uh, with, you know, what their aspirations might look like or, or, you know, where the family will be in 10 years.
01:25:46.940She, she's exhausted and, uh, she still doesn't make all the bill payments every month.
01:25:51.360And the kid is, you know, slowly being raised by, um, you know, these, these, uh, um, demons in schools with pink hair and pride flags, uh, told if they're a little bit froofy, a little bit, how do you do?
01:26:04.980A little bit light in the loafers, sugar in the tank, uh, as we say in Philly, uh, you know, um, that, um, they're not gay, uh, from which there is a possibility of, uh, of recovery, but they need to have their penis chopped off.
01:26:17.340And mom is so tired and addicted to her prescription medication and so exhausted and confused and unhappy, miserable, uh, and, and, and, and just demoralized and deflated that she goes along with it and even maybe find some comfort in it because she didn't want to be the woman on the block with a gay kid.
01:26:40.820Um, and that is a deliberate construction of the people that we're talking about, the people behind, you know, the, the, um, Anderson Coopers and the, and the Don Lemons and the, um, uh, and the witches of the view now gratefully canceled.
01:27:29.220Uh, um, but no, this, this, these, these terrible situations that so many people are in that have been architected by, uh,
01:27:38.000uh, instruments of the prince of the power of the air.
01:27:41.340So, you know, um, it's tough to, it's tough to, um, it's tough to look at America and not think that we are at that precipitous crisis at that moment of collapse that other empires have, have experienced.
01:27:59.100Um, 10 years ago, Douglas Murray, who used to be so much more interesting than he is now, unfortunately, um, he said, uh, we're going to be squabbling over transgender pronouns when the mullahs nuke us.
01:28:10.320Um, and, and, and, you know, what he was getting at was this, this sort of, um, decadent preoccupation with things we shouldn't even be discussing, let alone figure out what the right answer is.
01:28:18.580Uh, you know, while we lose sight of a soft preservation and sanity and sense and everything else, it's, it's very difficult to look out and not, um, just say, you know what?
01:28:27.760I'm going to go to church and make sure I'm good with God and stay away from everybody.
01:28:32.560Uh, it's, it's, I've struggled with that because, you know, I had, I had a, um, as, as most people know, you know, I had a, a, a, a little hiccup in 2017 where I was, um, uh, found myself on national television apologizing for being raped.
01:29:06.500It's been very difficult to motivate myself to get excited about any ideas and big money on the table at times, uh, for me to do a show or something.
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01:32:17.260But do you find, I think that if you're good at writing and you're good at speaking and you understand the world the way that you understand it and the problems that are, and do have experienced a lot of what you've experienced.
01:32:27.860I mean, I'm not trying to get you to speak about your sexual abuse, but I'm just saying that like to have lived that and to have then lived a life of homosexuality and then to say, okay, I woke up one day and I realized that I wanted to get into heaven.
01:32:37.940And do you not think it's just as important?
01:32:39.980Because like you said, you were married to a man.
01:32:41.320So if I haven't suffered enough, I also have a moral responsibility for the next 50 years to help other people.
01:32:46.840But don't you feel that like if you, like you said, I really, I deeply regret that I was, you know, I'm married and I'm representing this homosexual lifestyle.
01:32:53.780She's clever. She's clever. She remembered this.
01:32:55.720Yeah, when you said that, you regret it.
01:32:58.280Why wouldn't you want to do the opposite and speak about these things and just be honest about everything that you've lived through and what you've done so that people can learn from you?
01:33:07.120Because if I say, if I get onto a platform and I say, you know, homosexuality, you know, you'll start living a life of sin.
01:33:12.940It may not have, if you're a person who's dealing with homosexuality or you're a person who's in school and someone's telling you you are a homosexual and maybe you don't feel like you are a homosexual, they may need to hear it from somebody else who's lived that life.
01:33:34.420I know, I've had everything very easy.
01:33:36.720And there have been a few things that have happened to me in my life that have been genuinely terrible and that most people probably wouldn't have dealt with like I did.
01:33:45.140Maybe it's because I didn't have anything else to worry about or maybe I just built a resilient.
01:33:50.940But finding somebody for the first time in 35 years that you think is the first person in your life that loves you back.
01:33:57.660And that, you know, you finally don't feel so alone and thinking, well, I might be this, but at least I'm kind of...
01:34:51.860And, you know, the priest thing I said, I shouldn't say it again and get cancelled for another 10 years, but I will.
01:34:58.860In common with a lot of people that this happens to, I didn't perceive it as being as bad at the time as the effect I now realize it had on me, right?
01:35:07.800It wasn't a violent, brutal situation, right?
01:35:11.980And I didn't know until after I got cancelled, thanks, you know, when I had that time to...
01:35:17.080That you had started loving your victim, not loving your oppressor, I mean like...
01:35:20.220That I didn't realize that it was responsible for so much of me that was wrong, right?
01:35:26.220And what it had done to me, I thought I kind of got away with it.
01:35:28.620I even sort of thought, well, kind of, I think I was sort of the sexual aggressor in that situation.
01:35:33.040You know, I didn't realize what it had left me with.
01:35:36.780To have that, and then, you know, the husband, and then I have a lot of health problems now too.
01:35:44.320I'm going blind and God knows what else.
01:35:47.180I joke with my spiritual director that when I get to heaven, I'm going to march up to our Lord and say, I want an apology, say you're sorry.
01:35:53.960And he says, our Lord will outstretch his hands and you will see his stigmata and you will feel profoundly ashamed for the fraction of a second before you plunge down into the lake of fire.
01:36:14.840And I've said to a few people recently, which always upsets them, but I mean it.
01:36:20.000It's like, I'm ready to be with Jesus.
01:36:20.920Like, I'm tired, you know, like I'm good.
01:36:23.020But I have a feeling, and there's a reason for this, which is a horrible, gruesome reason that you won't want to hear, but I'm going to tell you anyway.
01:36:28.960That, unfortunately, I think he has plans for me to be here for many decades yet doing something along the lines you suggest.
01:36:35.800When I, all gay sex is an exercise in humiliation and in self-harm.
01:36:42.080In my case, it was particularly so wanting to be physically subjugated by a much stronger, larger man.
01:36:50.120And I settled on African-American men as being the sort of athletic, hyper-masculine thing that was doing it for me.
01:37:00.360And in the course of, you know, over 20 years, I guess it would be 20, yeah, 20 years of being an active homosexual.
01:37:08.100I mean, I had a lot of sex and a lot of unprotected sex with a lot of people from a group where half of all of them get AIDS.
01:38:08.820I'm dragging my feet at the moment because I'm enjoying this kind of interregnum fiction of being retired when in actual fact, you know who I work for.
01:38:16.740And I'm like working like a dog all day, every day.
01:38:19.080But I enjoy the, you know, I always like to make it look easy.
01:38:21.860So, I always try to have an air of studied nonchalance.
01:38:24.820So, I try to, I like to have this, I have this sort of thing I like.
01:42:18.160And now I kind of, like, laugh when I hear it.
01:42:20.240So, it sort of feels like it was somebody else.
01:42:22.900So, you know, I just turned everything into sort of an, I turned everything into an absurdity that is absurd, that is disordered, you know.
01:42:31.160So, that was helpful for me because, you know, it's difficult to stay horny when you're laughing.