Candace Owens - April 15, 2025


CAUGHT RED HANDED: Harley Pasternak | Ryan Reynolds’ Subpoena | Candace Ep 177


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

183.02193

Word Count

9,224

Sentence Count

703

Misogynist Sentences

23

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Harley Pasternak caught red-handed with a photo of his grandmother, who he claims was a survivor of the Holocaust. Is he a victim of the Grandma Grift? Or is he a crook?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, stop everything because we have caught Harley Pasternak red-handed.
00:00:05.760 I don't know what's going on this year, you guys.
00:00:07.720 Just like grandmas.
00:00:08.920 People are just out of nowhere just needing to grift off of their grandma's story.
00:00:14.100 Everybody wants to be a victim nowadays.
00:00:15.940 That's what it really comes down to.
00:00:16.900 Everybody wants to be a victim.
00:00:17.860 And I don't know how this keeps happening.
00:00:19.700 I don't know why I keep catching people out in half-truths and lies about their grandmas and their genealogy.
00:00:24.700 First, Kamala, now Harley Pasternak.
00:00:27.540 This is crazy.
00:00:28.400 Also, we have an update in the Blake Ryan Justin saga.
00:00:31.200 It's weird.
00:00:31.900 It involves a fake subpoena.
00:00:33.160 I think it's definitely faked by Stephanie Jones PR.
00:00:36.620 So we'll do a brief update of that.
00:00:37.940 And I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I am currently rooting for Harvard University to win against the Trump administration in court.
00:00:45.300 Really, I don't know what year this is, but I just said that and it is a fact.
00:00:49.120 So let's jump right back in.
00:00:50.280 Welcome back to Candace.
00:00:51.320 This is the year of the grandma grift, guys.
00:01:08.240 I don't know what it is.
00:01:09.360 Everybody wants to grift off of their grandmas.
00:01:12.260 It's strange.
00:01:14.020 I absolutely adored my grandmother, but the idea of using her so that people would perceive me as a victim is very strange.
00:01:22.920 It registers as very strange to me.
00:01:25.040 All right.
00:01:25.260 So where do we start?
00:01:26.000 I guess we could start with how Harley Pasternak publicly represents himself.
00:01:30.960 How do we even get here?
00:01:31.920 Yeah.
00:01:32.220 Well, we are looking into the web of Hollywood lies.
00:01:35.680 We are starting to realize that if you're in Hollywood, you probably shouldn't have a gym trainer or a bodyguard because a lot of people just seem to be with them when they are in their last moments of life or found floating in bathtubs.
00:01:47.820 That's all I'm saying.
00:01:48.460 That's all I'm saying.
00:01:49.000 And Harley Pasternak has a long list of clients who have been found in that regard.
00:01:56.020 I mean, Brittany Murphy, her husband as well, rather notoriously, Mac Miller.
00:02:04.060 Harley Pasternak spoke out.
00:02:05.120 I was just about to meet with him.
00:02:06.680 I can't believe this happened.
00:02:07.800 It's weird.
00:02:08.580 And then, of course, notorious threatening text message to Kanye West, which put him on our radar in the first place.
00:02:14.060 So I started looking into Harley Pasternak, and he's definitely someone that I would say is proud of his heritage, so proud that what initially flagged me as weird was him holding up an unclear image of his grandmother, this image so far away.
00:02:30.460 That's allegedly Lucy Pasternak, who he claims was a survivor of the Holocaust, not only just a survivor of the Holocaust, but was in the worst camp, Auschwitz.
00:02:40.060 And it says this is a photo of my late grandmother, Lucy Pasternak.
00:02:43.380 She was from Transylvania and survived Auschwitz.
00:02:46.020 A great deal of who I am today is because of who she was.
00:02:49.840 And he has this adorable little girl holding up the photo, but it's not a close shot.
00:02:54.240 And I just was not able to confirm that.
00:02:58.240 It struck me as odd that I could not confirm that.
00:03:01.120 Like I said, they have been very particular about documenting exactly who came out of Auschwitz and survived.
00:03:09.000 You typically can find their stories.
00:03:10.180 There are entire websites dedicated to just videoing all of these stories, people just speaking and saying what they saw in the camps, how they lived, how they survived.
00:03:20.760 And I just could not find this woman, Lucy, anywhere.
00:03:24.000 Not saying it doesn't exist, just saying that I'd like to find it.
00:03:26.140 I like to fact check things.
00:03:27.200 I think that's OK, right?
00:03:28.120 And what struck me as particularly odd about that as well was that Harley Pasternak has two brothers, Jesse and Bobby, who still live in Canada.
00:03:37.060 They are extremely involved in their communities and they are extremely involved, particularly in the Jewish community.
00:03:44.360 But I couldn't find a single trace of them having mentioned that their grandmother, Lucy, was a survivor of Auschwitz.
00:03:50.980 And I just thought that would have maybe come up somewhere in a speech that they were giving or I don't know, a presentation they were giving somewhere.
00:03:58.220 By the way, here's a publicly available photo of Harley and his brothers that Harley posted to his public Instagram account.
00:04:03.940 It's obviously a throwback.
00:04:05.560 Happy National Siblings Day.
00:04:07.120 P.S.
00:04:07.400 They are both taller and smarter than me now.
00:04:09.500 And he tags his two brothers.
00:04:11.400 Like I said, he's a very proud pastor, Nick.
00:04:14.420 So I'm going through emails last night, looking through the tips that you guys send me at tips at cannesones.com.
00:04:20.620 And I always love when somebody personally has an experience with someone because it usually will send me down various rabbit holes.
00:04:26.440 And there was one woman who emailed me who actually went on a date with Harley Pasternak in New York City.
00:04:31.640 And she had a very specific memory that was bothering her, which is why she chose to email me.
00:04:35.940 And I'm just going to read you this email in its entirety.
00:04:37.840 She writes, blank.
00:04:43.440 I went on a date with Harley 25 years ago in New York City.
00:04:47.160 He was in town staying at the Parker Meridian Hotel on 57th Street as he was Halle Berry's nutritionist at the time.
00:04:54.980 I worked there.
00:04:56.440 He took me to Butter and he knew the chef who was French and he spoke to him in French when he came to the table to say hello.
00:05:04.260 Anyways, he mentioned to me that his grandfather won a Nobel Prize.
00:05:08.400 I forgot what it was for.
00:05:10.080 I looked it up and sure enough, he was Russian and did in fact win a Nobel Prize.
00:05:15.940 Since you started this topic, it came to me again and I put it in the chat.
00:05:19.440 You said Boris was his cousin, but I am telling you that he told me that it was his grandfather who won the Nobel Prize.
00:05:26.580 I hope this helps.
00:05:27.660 Perhaps you know of some way to dig deeper.
00:05:30.160 Harley has the air of someone who is massively confident.
00:05:32.760 If confidence could walk, it would walk like Harley.
00:05:36.300 No lie.
00:05:37.220 Easy to talk to, intelligent, complimenting me on my own level of intelligence.
00:05:40.560 A huge compliment coming from someone like him back then.
00:05:43.260 Anyways, I had all but forgotten about that night.
00:05:45.460 Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
00:05:47.300 Okay, so she's working at the Parker Meridian Hotel and Harley Pasternak takes her on a date and he tells her that his grandfather won a Nobel Prize in literature.
00:05:56.260 But we know that that's her.
00:05:58.320 I believe her.
00:05:59.260 I believe he said that.
00:06:01.140 But it doesn't add up.
00:06:03.220 Unless his grandfather is Boris Pasternak, the person that we told you, is a cousin.
00:06:09.080 Obviously, Boris Pasternak worked with the CIA.
00:06:11.640 They distributed.
00:06:12.580 He was the writer of Dr. Zhivago.
00:06:15.500 The CIA got this book, got hands on this book and distributed it throughout the USSR covertly.
00:06:21.340 Also gave it to Joe Pasternak to turn it into a blockbuster movie, to give it six awards because the world is a stage, my friends.
00:06:29.300 We always think that we're just watching a movie, but in reality, we are being socially engineered.
00:06:34.340 And this was a part of, like I said, CIA social engineering, deciding upon how they wanted to invade the minds of those that were living under the USSR to distrust their governments.
00:06:46.880 OK, so I have this email and I believe her, like I said, and I'm going to my producers and my director and I'm going, do you think that's legit?
00:06:55.420 Like, could Boris Pasternak actually be his grandfather?
00:06:58.340 That would be crazy.
00:07:00.520 And they're like, oh, he probably just said that because he was just trying to, like, get this girl to think that he was even greater.
00:07:08.080 And I'm pushing back gently because I'm going, OK, but why would he have to?
00:07:12.360 I mean, she's she's working at the hotel.
00:07:13.840 He's taking her on a date.
00:07:15.340 He's his client is Halle Berry.
00:07:17.520 She can Google him and see that he's kind of a big deal of a trainer, kind of a big deal.
00:07:21.740 So why would he then lie about who his grandfather was?
00:07:25.880 Is Harley Pasternak a liar in general?
00:07:28.920 Anyways, I was having trouble piecing it together.
00:07:30.560 I'm not going to lie to you guys.
00:07:31.440 So we decided to start looking through old newspapers and then said maybe we should stop looking at the paternal line, like stop looking at the Pasternak line and instead focus on the maternal line.
00:07:46.740 Right.
00:07:47.080 He's got a mother named Barbara Pasternak.
00:07:49.860 Like we know that Barbara's maiden name is Shurkin.
00:07:53.480 Let's just turn our attention to the maternal line and see what happens.
00:07:58.320 And something happened, my friends, suddenly, very unexpectedly, a few hours before we went live, which is why we're running late.
00:08:04.160 My producer happened upon something that we were not expecting to pop up.
00:08:10.040 Now, I want to remind you before I show you, before I get to the big bang here.
00:08:13.620 Yesterday, we had uncovered something that was remarkably suspicious.
00:08:19.780 We didn't really know to think of it other than maybe the newspaper made a mistake that was pertaining to Grandma Lucy.
00:08:25.860 We were looking up Grandma Lucy Pasternak to confirm that she was in Auschwitz, that she survived Auschwitz.
00:08:31.240 And rather, we happened upon her listed in Harley's brother's birth announcement.
00:08:37.700 But they said that Harley's brother, this is a huge clue, that Harley's brother was Lucy's first grandchild.
00:08:44.760 Here it is.
00:08:45.700 The entry reads, it's a boy.
00:08:46.880 Like I said, we just went, OK, maybe it just, you know, somebody just forgot, I don't know, and just made a mistake here.
00:09:10.280 We can't rely on newspapers to always be accurate.
00:09:12.300 And then it describes him as the fourth grandchild of Morris and the late Vivian Shurkin.
00:09:18.220 So again, we're focusing here on the Shurkin line, and here's what pops up.
00:09:22.160 Drumroll, please, people.
00:09:25.760 This entry pops up.
00:09:27.800 Look at this.
00:09:29.680 Mr. and Mrs. Morris Shurkin happily announced the engagement of their daughter, Barbara, to Alan, the son of Mr. and Mrs. Earl Ryman.
00:09:41.480 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:09:42.920 So just to be clear, if we can pull that back up, Barbara is Harley's mother, just so you guys understand.
00:09:50.160 And we're now learning that she was married to somebody else, and that somebody else's name is Alan Fryman, OK?
00:09:58.560 And then we find it.
00:09:59.880 We happen upon Harley's, with that new information, looking up Fryman, we are able to find Harley's birth announcement.
00:10:07.620 And Harley was not born Harley Pasternak.
00:10:10.680 Harley was born Harley Fryman.
00:10:13.340 Harley is not a bloodline Pasternak.
00:10:17.320 He's a Fryman.
00:10:18.400 Here's his birth announcement.
00:10:20.440 The Toronto Star, this announcement went out on August 10th.
00:10:24.640 It says that he is born, and this is correct, on August 6th, that Alan and Barbara Ney Shurkin are proud to announce the birth of their son on August 6th, 1974, at Mount Sinai Hospital.
00:10:36.340 Happy grandparents are Mr. and Mrs. Morris Shurkin, and Mr. and Mrs. Earl Fryman, mother and son, are doing fine.
00:10:44.340 Tells us that he weighs 9 pounds, 13 ounces.
00:10:47.160 He was a big boy.
00:10:48.960 And like I said, first grandchild for Morris and Vivian Shurkin, fifth grandchild for Goldie and Earl Fryman.
00:10:58.240 Okay, so that means, oh, wait a second, that's weird.
00:11:02.860 He's got nothing to do with Lucy.
00:11:04.480 He's holding up a photo of Lucy.
00:11:05.460 Okay, sure, your mom can get divorced and become remarried.
00:11:09.620 And then that's your step-grandmother that you're holding a photo of.
00:11:13.060 Sure, this is getting a little strange, okay?
00:11:16.240 So let me just show you this new Harley family tree, the accurate Harley family tree that we were able to establish.
00:11:23.320 There's Harley there at the bottom, that's his dad, Alan Fryman, and that's Barbara Shurkin, who then married later on, even though we can't find her marriage record, but she became a Pasternak.
00:11:35.960 So then we just have the Fryman as the paternal line.
00:11:39.880 Now, if you're like me, you're trying to rationalize that, you're probably thinking, okay, well, if his mom got divorced and got remarried, maybe his biological dad simply wasn't in his life.
00:11:49.760 Happens all the time.
00:11:51.140 We come from a time, an era of broken families, deadbeat dads.
00:11:56.460 Maybe that is the only grandma that he ever knew.
00:11:59.340 I mean, we were at least able to follow that his name was Harley Fryman for the first five years of his life.
00:12:06.120 If we can't tell you what happened thereafter, but no, what we can tell you for certain is that his dad was not only in his life then, but his father is also in his life now.
00:12:19.560 In fact, his father, his real father, Alan Fryman, is so involved in his life that he follows me on Instagram, okay?
00:12:28.260 Harley has blocked me on Instagram, but his biological dad is sleuthing me and follows me.
00:12:34.580 We were able to find Alan Fryman on Instagram because he's following me.
00:12:40.360 I don't know if I should be scared, but, you know, he's older and I don't know.
00:12:45.940 I feel like I should be okay here, but I'm on his radar in a very big way.
00:12:49.960 And I can tell you he has a relationship with Harley.
00:12:51.980 He definitively has a relationship with Harley because now he's an artist.
00:12:57.320 He was not an artist throughout his entire life.
00:12:59.060 They actually had a great, were involved with regulatory business.
00:13:04.160 His father was involved in a regulatory business with taxis.
00:13:07.140 He was leasing out when videos were a thing.
00:13:11.540 He was leasing out property and franchises.
00:13:14.280 This is not some like small family that came here with pennies, okay?
00:13:18.880 And he's now an artist and he, the focus of his work is painting pictures of his son, Harley, okay?
00:13:26.220 So look at this.
00:13:27.560 These are some of the photos that he paints.
00:13:30.720 It's, he's painting, he's, or drawing, I don't know what this is, cartooning.
00:13:34.040 I really, I don't know anything about art.
00:13:35.220 I'm not ashamed to admit that.
00:13:36.480 But he's, that's Harley.
00:13:38.560 That's Harley's daughter.
00:13:40.060 And that is Harley commenting with heart eyes on this photo.
00:13:44.100 He sells these, just to be clear.
00:13:46.660 He sells these pieces of artwork.
00:13:48.140 He has a website.
00:13:49.160 And like I said, a recurring theme is that he is drawing photos of his granddaughter.
00:13:55.340 He has photos of Harley's daughter and him hugging his daughter.
00:13:58.100 So he is a part of Harley's life.
00:14:00.660 Very strange that when you go on Harley's accounts, you can't find a trace of this person.
00:14:05.880 It's like he doesn't, he doesn't want people to think of him as a fryman.
00:14:10.200 So it's interesting, you guys.
00:14:11.940 It is very interesting.
00:14:13.040 Who is Harley Pasternak?
00:14:16.160 I don't, I don't, maybe he felt pressure to become, become consumed with this identity
00:14:23.260 of being a real Pasternak.
00:14:25.140 I think it's an interesting discussion.
00:14:27.380 Why someone chooses to change their name if their father is still a part of their life.
00:14:32.160 That's a tough conversation to have.
00:14:34.000 And is it normal to, with your half-brothers, to be the one brother that has only one time
00:14:43.860 ever stated that your grandmother, who we still cannot confirm, so your step-grandmother,
00:14:48.920 who we still cannot find, and despite all the emails that we have, no one has been able
00:14:53.060 to confirm that there was a Lucy Pasternak that survived Auschwitz, which is very alarming
00:14:58.200 to me.
00:14:59.240 That's the ultimate grift.
00:15:00.140 That's the Kamala Harris grift.
00:15:01.540 If he made that up and just shot that photo and thought no one would find it, that means
00:15:06.260 he's disturbed.
00:15:06.880 It means he's a liar and the worst kind of liar, like a kind of liar who should never have
00:15:11.800 any power whatsoever.
00:15:13.800 That's what I take him for, by the way.
00:15:15.180 I don't like his face.
00:15:16.400 I don't even like Harley's face.
00:15:18.060 Everything about his face gives me the ick.
00:15:20.180 Don't trust him.
00:15:21.180 Nope.
00:15:21.940 Believe it's all a lie.
00:15:22.880 He's like a trained liar.
00:15:24.280 That's what I think.
00:15:25.520 But since we're at the beginning of this, I'm wondering if he spent, and maybe it's why I
00:15:29.360 had so much trouble being able to find any documents on the early part of Harley Pasternak's
00:15:33.540 life, including just trying to find like military entries, things of that nature.
00:15:38.140 Maybe he was going by Freiman in general for a while.
00:15:42.920 And maybe that's not something that he wants publicized.
00:15:45.200 Oh, well, what you want and what you get when you start rolling around telling people that
00:15:50.520 you're going to drug them, take their kids away, and send them back to la-la land.
00:15:55.800 Two different things, you know?
00:15:56.900 You don't get the right anymore to decide when people start looking at you and wondering
00:16:00.860 who the hell you are and why it just seems that so many people that are around you just
00:16:06.680 lose their minds.
00:16:07.900 You're just so sober and so great and so focused and so fit.
00:16:12.700 And yet the people around you are all going crazy.
00:16:14.380 He even trained Ellen Page, who now goes by Elliot Page.
00:16:20.760 I mean, it's just, it's incredible, the people, when you look through his roster, and you just
00:16:25.420 wonder, why would anybody ever go to him to get healthy?
00:16:29.940 Most explosively, by the way, we are still looking into the Pasternak family, obviously,
00:16:35.080 because that is what he has pledged.
00:16:37.380 And what we found, going back to Joe Pasternak, the patriarch, reminding you of MGM, one of the
00:16:43.520 founders of Hollywood, if you will, alongside Sam Katz and one other individual from Paramount
00:16:50.280 Studios, if we look at him as the patriarch of this family, he, what I found immediately
00:16:56.900 strange is we knew that he had four children, but Wikipedia was only confirming three of them.
00:17:03.460 As soon as I researched him, four children came up, but for whatever reason, we had a
00:17:06.400 lot of difficulty identifying who the fourth child was.
00:17:09.140 And I can show you who these first three children were.
00:17:11.640 So this is going back to Joe Pasternak, the patriarch of the Pasternak family, who was
00:17:18.160 cousins with Boris Pasternak.
00:17:20.300 You see, we've got Michael, we've got Jeffrey, we've got Peter, and somebody emailed us and
00:17:26.340 told us that the fourth child's name, who he has always hidden because he had her out of
00:17:31.200 wedlock and not with Dorothy, is a Barbara Pasternak.
00:17:35.600 So that is definitely something that needs to be further prodded.
00:17:40.040 We are absolutely on it regarding what his children did, which is super interesting.
00:17:45.460 Michael went by Emperor Roscoe.
00:17:48.900 He was a radio DJ for BBC out in London, very popular.
00:17:52.720 So they were involved in entertainment and deciding as a disc jockey what records were going to
00:17:59.220 be played.
00:17:59.680 Then you have Jeffrey George Pasternak, his other son.
00:18:03.540 He recommended the group The Doors to his father, and he worked very closely with John
00:18:09.660 Branca.
00:18:10.540 That is one of the people that Michael Jackson named as being a part of this Hollywood mafia,
00:18:16.520 people that he said were devilish and insane and that were essentially stealing from the
00:18:22.160 artists that they worked with.
00:18:23.680 So it's interesting to realize that the Pasternak's are connected to that and were close with John
00:18:29.700 Branca early in his career managing The Doors.
00:18:32.920 That's the Michael Jackson connection.
00:18:34.520 And Peter Samuel was a playwright and a songwriter.
00:18:37.600 So all around us, it's entertainment, entertainment.
00:18:40.560 We are looking to figure out, based on an email that someone sent us that looks legitimate, who
00:18:45.680 that Barbara Pasternak is, that was born in 1942, that they have gone through great lengths to keep
00:18:51.980 secret from the public, that would be an heir to Joe Pasternak, born in 1942.
00:18:57.500 So guys, send me your emails to tips at canastones.com.
00:19:01.340 Also, we got a lot of people asking in the comments yesterday, what about Walter Pasternak?
00:19:05.480 Yeah, what about him?
00:19:07.060 Yeah, obviously we know Walter P. Pasternak was a Pasternak that was involved in the CIA
00:19:12.700 MKUltra experiment, so it would be fitting at this time.
00:19:15.900 You put these pieces together, you've got Dr. Zhivago going on, Boris, you've got Joe
00:19:20.720 Pasternak, Walter Pasternak of the CIA experiment, because I think Hollywood is a CIA experiment.
00:19:27.480 I really do.
00:19:29.000 We're going to talk about that more as we read Hollywood Babylon.
00:19:31.880 We don't know where to put him in the chart because there's such little information available
00:19:35.460 about him.
00:19:35.960 Remember, this is the guy that no-showed Congress.
00:19:38.460 We did, however, receive a confirmation that his middle initial stands for Paul.
00:19:45.080 So we're looking for a Walter Paul Pasternak, according to the Library of Congress.
00:19:49.840 They have files on him.
00:19:51.680 He was involved with another individual who did show up for the congressional hearing,
00:19:58.040 a guy in which they were both being questioned for this failed MKUltra experiment where they
00:20:03.780 were going to aerosol LSD onto unsuspecting people in San Francisco.
00:20:09.620 I'm not kidding.
00:20:10.280 This is your government.
00:20:11.240 What do you want me to say?
00:20:12.380 OK, this is a real headline.
00:20:13.900 The CIA sought to spray drugs on partygoers.
00:20:16.980 So they were being questioned about that.
00:20:18.720 Walter P.
00:20:19.580 Pasternak and Burke, I'm sorry, and Rhodes.
00:20:23.300 And this is from the New York Times article.
00:20:25.320 It says today's testimony by Mr. Rhodes provided the first look the public has had at an LSD
00:20:31.260 test inside the CIA safe house, although the experiment he described was carried out only
00:20:36.860 on one of his colleagues and ultimately failed.
00:20:39.600 The agency carried out other drug tests in both California and New York City from 1953
00:20:44.440 to 1966 in such safe houses, mainly apartments and motel rooms.
00:20:49.440 These were secretly rented for the agency by George White, an official of the old Federal
00:20:55.140 Borough of Narcotics, which has since been supplanted by the Drug Enforcement Administration.
00:21:00.640 Mr. Rhodes, a psychologist employed by the CIA from 1957 to 1961, said he went to California
00:21:07.560 in 1959 with Walter P.
00:21:09.880 Pasternak to test a particular device to see if LSD could be given in small quantities via
00:21:15.680 an aerosol.
00:21:16.360 Mr. Pasternak, a former employee of the agency, was also an official with the Society for the
00:21:22.540 Investigation of Human Ecology, a foundation that was set up by John Gittinger, also an
00:21:28.780 agency employee to serve as a conduit for CIA money, end quote.
00:21:33.040 So we don't know who this man is.
00:21:35.660 I did find a Walter Paul Pasternak that is buried at the Arlington Cemetery in D.C., who was
00:21:43.320 a lieutenant in World War II, but that is a tenuous at best, that connection.
00:21:48.920 So we don't know.
00:21:51.120 But obviously, we do know that when it comes to mind experimentation, those with the last
00:21:56.400 name Pasternak, generally speaking, are people that I would avoid.
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00:23:58.740 Gotta get into this brief update regarding the Justin Baldoni case.
00:24:03.860 It's a weird one.
00:24:05.280 So we told you about Stephanie Jones of Stephanie Jones PR.
00:24:08.020 She's like the PR woman from hell.
00:24:10.100 Everybody's afraid of her.
00:24:11.300 She's married to a partner over at WME.
00:24:14.840 Hollywood's a small gang town and pretty much you messed one of them.
00:24:18.240 You mess with all of them.
00:24:19.040 And she was obviously crucial to this case and she's someone that should be routinely
00:24:23.400 discussed because the only reason that the New York Times had any text messages before
00:24:29.340 there were any legal filings was because Stephanie Jones told her former employee on her last
00:24:35.780 day of work after she said she was going to quit.
00:24:37.980 She was working with Stephanie Jones.
00:24:39.900 Jennifer Abel was as a publicist and Jennifer Abel quit and she was quitting and she was
00:24:46.360 taking the Wayfarer account with her because they want they had already been working with
00:24:49.940 her and Stephanie Jones wasn't having it.
00:24:52.500 And on the last day that she was supposed to be in the office after giving her a six
00:24:56.760 weeks notice, she calls her into the office.
00:25:00.300 She's got a lawyer there.
00:25:01.460 And Stephanie Jones is like, give me your phone.
00:25:03.840 And, you know, and Jennifer Abel begs, oh, this is my phone.
00:25:07.740 I've had this phone forever.
00:25:08.680 It has my contacts.
00:25:09.560 It's got pictures of my granny.
00:25:12.060 My granny was probably making up some granny griff story here.
00:25:16.560 That's what everybody does.
00:25:17.680 And Stephanie's like, nope, I'm getting your phone.
00:25:20.040 Next thing you know, the New York Times has this stuff, right?
00:25:24.520 Well, Stephanie's excuse in the background of this has been that she was complying with a
00:25:30.520 subpoena on its face.
00:25:32.440 That's a really stupid excuse, OK, because she gathered this cell phone in August.
00:25:40.600 OK, there was no pending lawsuit.
00:25:42.940 There was no lawsuit that was happening in which she would have had to comply with the
00:25:47.940 subpoena.
00:25:48.380 Also, and again, like I said, this this totally relies upon the public being really dumb and
00:25:54.120 not understanding.
00:25:54.860 You can't just go up and be like, I have a subpoena.
00:25:56.860 Give me your messages.
00:25:57.420 A judge has to sign off on a subpoena to make it valid.
00:26:03.260 So all of a sudden, Stephanie Jones is doing a bunch of PR right now.
00:26:05.680 She's in the press and she's giving it to page six and she's giving it to Deadline.
00:26:09.940 And these are some of the headlines.
00:26:11.440 And all of them are writing that in the Justin Baldoni Blake Lively Legal Saga, the publicist
00:26:17.040 rebuts the allegations that she leaves confidential information and buried into it is that they're
00:26:23.720 telling us that Deadline reviewed a copy of a subpoena cited by Jones, but they won't
00:26:28.940 reveal it to the public.
00:26:29.940 They do not want us to have a look at this alleged subpoena that they say was dated last
00:26:36.020 October.
00:26:37.060 Again, there were no lawsuits filed in October.
00:26:40.400 The first filing in this case didn't come until December.
00:26:43.940 That was when Blake Lively filed her CRD complaint.
00:26:47.500 I believe the New York Times released their article on the same day, December 20th is when
00:26:52.680 all of this started and fired up.
00:26:54.700 So what subpoena was Stephanie Jones complying with that was dated last October?
00:27:00.880 Now, here's what I'm going to tell you.
00:27:02.200 But something that's very conspicuous to me is the fact that Blake's legal team is not
00:27:08.200 acknowledging any subpoena that they sent to Stephanie Jones.
00:27:11.540 Neither is Ryan acknowledging that he sent a subpoena to Stephanie Jones.
00:27:15.620 Essentially, Stephanie Jones is out on a raft by herself in the middle of the river saying,
00:27:22.200 I was complying with a subpoena.
00:27:24.540 And now she's calling her homies and they're like, she's complying.
00:27:27.120 We saw a subpoena.
00:27:28.060 We can't show you the public, but it's dated in October.
00:27:30.320 Well, that's problematic for everybody.
00:27:33.140 If that subpoena is dated in October, okay, and you're telling us that that went out,
00:27:38.400 that's the same month that we have noted that the New York Times has some data that shows
00:27:44.680 that they were working on an article.
00:27:46.180 Look at the data.
00:27:47.160 We have been saying this from the beginning.
00:27:49.480 It shows us that October 31st of 2024, the New York Times began working on this article
00:27:56.980 with Jennifer Abel's text messages that were already being embedded into it.
00:28:02.640 So it seems much more likely a story to me that Stephanie's trying to cover her tracks
00:28:07.280 and that Stephanie got these messages because she was angry at her employee.
00:28:11.340 She was angry at Jennifer Abel because how dare you leave me and how dare you take one of our
00:28:15.900 clients with you?
00:28:17.340 An account that I didn't care about that was too small for me that you were working on.
00:28:20.240 How dare you do that?
00:28:21.560 She took her phone and she sought revenge.
00:28:23.660 And I believe that Ryan was game, Blake was game, she was game, the New York Times was
00:28:29.780 game, and they all got to work working on this expose, which was proven to be fraudulent
00:28:36.320 by Brian Friedman, all the way back in October.
00:28:39.600 And so what she's doing is going to harm the New York Times case, and it's going to harm
00:28:43.900 Blake's case, and it's going to harm Ryan's case.
00:28:46.700 It's going to help Justin Baldoni because I'm telling you, this subpoena doesn't exist.
00:28:50.460 Something's not right here, okay?
00:28:51.680 A subpoena means a judge signed off on it.
00:28:54.260 And let me tell you, by the way, guys, common sense, if you're trying to subpoena Jennifer
00:28:58.960 Abel's text messages, why are you going through her former employer?
00:29:04.120 I don't have the rights to my, that is not an assumption that any court would make.
00:29:08.400 I don't have the rights to people that work for me.
00:29:10.940 I don't have the rights to their phones.
00:29:12.380 If somebody wanted to subpoena Savannah's text messages, why would you send it to my business?
00:29:18.180 Like, why would you be like, I have a right to, this person works for you, so I have a
00:29:21.860 right to the message.
00:29:22.420 Okay, well, you got to put her name on the subpoena.
00:29:25.380 You don't need me and my office to get involved and say, hand me the phone.
00:29:29.260 You're the court.
00:29:29.900 You're the big guy.
00:29:30.540 You're the judge.
00:29:31.780 You go and you inform Jennifer Abel that she's got to cough up her messages.
00:29:36.420 I don't want anything to do with this.
00:29:38.000 I got enough on my plate already.
00:29:39.940 It's highly suspicious.
00:29:40.900 I'm telling you, this is a major sticking point.
00:29:43.660 Something is not right with this subpoena that she is alleging was from October when
00:29:49.860 we had no, we didn't even, we had a CRD complaint on December 20th.
00:29:53.520 We didn't even have a lawsuit.
00:29:54.480 CRD complaint is not a lawsuit.
00:29:56.460 It's a complaint that's filed with the Civil Rights Department.
00:29:59.620 We didn't even get our lawsuit until December 31st.
00:30:03.280 End of December is when the real lawsuits started to pick up.
00:30:07.120 So keep your eye on that, guys.
00:30:09.480 I'm telling you, that is definitely something to watch.
00:30:13.000 OK, last thing that I want to cover, got to tell you guys, I never thought that I would
00:30:17.340 see a day where I would be rooting for a university above Donald J. Trump and his administration.
00:30:22.640 But I don't recognize his administration right now.
00:30:24.400 I don't recognize what's happening.
00:30:25.940 I have a theory.
00:30:27.220 I do.
00:30:28.020 We were kicking around some theories earlier, me and the team, and we were going, what,
00:30:31.980 how could Trump be such a free speech enthusiast and being allowing these things to happen?
00:30:38.040 Going after college universities, trying to suppress speech while pretending that you're
00:30:44.680 not suppressing speech, while pretending that you're fighting DEI.
00:30:47.280 It's so messy.
00:30:48.100 It's so obvious.
00:30:49.000 Everyone knows what you're doing.
00:30:51.080 People who are still trying to grift, I guess, I suppose, are not willing to challenge you on
00:30:56.980 this, which is ridiculous.
00:30:58.020 Because when you are out of office, we are going to have to live with these consequences.
00:31:01.780 Our children are going to have to grow up in this America.
00:31:04.120 OK, so when you threaten our speech, it's not worth it so that we can have pom-poms and
00:31:08.940 go hurrah for a couple of years, then go, OK, well, yeah, now it kind of stinks because,
00:31:14.660 oh, we're getting arrested for wrong think.
00:31:17.200 We've got David Friedman.
00:31:18.220 Yeah, arrest him.
00:31:20.100 Arrest Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens.
00:31:22.360 Get him.
00:31:23.060 I love it.
00:31:24.580 Everyone can see what's happening left and right.
00:31:26.260 So to give you the background, obviously, after October 7th, there were tons of student
00:31:31.620 protests all across the nation.
00:31:33.480 Some got violent, some didn't.
00:31:35.340 But what has happened is people started demanding that universities start, you know, taking on
00:31:42.300 their own sorts of definitions for antisemitism, particularly the IHRA new updated definition
00:31:51.760 of antisemitism, which I believe was I think it was drafted by the ADL, if I'm correct.
00:31:57.120 If I remember correctly, the ADL put this together.
00:31:59.740 Nothing good comes from the ADL.
00:32:01.680 Their backstory is they were initially a gang that went mainstream and their job is to suppress
00:32:06.120 speech and to smear people, not to defend people against defamation.
00:32:11.000 They are actually the defamers.
00:32:12.340 That's why I think they're clever by calling themselves the Anti-Defamation League when they
00:32:15.940 actually routinely engage in defamation.
00:32:17.640 Anyways, this is Harvard received notice that they had to comply with the Trump administration's
00:32:26.080 demands, OK, and essentially telling them how they would have to change things on campus.
00:32:33.180 And they're, again, trying to the administration is trying to paint this as they're coming and
00:32:37.980 fighting DEI on campus.
00:32:39.720 And they're not doing that.
00:32:40.600 I'm going to show you it so you can see it with your own eyes.
00:32:42.880 On Monday, Harvard became the first university to openly defy the Trump administration as
00:32:49.160 it demanded sweeping changes to limit activism on campus.
00:32:53.200 Activism is like synonymous with campus, OK?
00:32:55.980 The university frames the government's demands as a threat not only to the Ivy League school,
00:33:00.620 but to the autonomy that the Supreme Court has long granted American universities.
00:33:04.860 They said in a quote, the university will not surrender its independence or relinquish its
00:33:09.480 constitutional rights.
00:33:10.520 That's what the university lawyers said on Monday.
00:33:14.020 They continued, neither Harvard nor any other private university can allow itself to be taken
00:33:17.940 over by the federal government.
00:33:19.060 The federal government says it's freezing more than $2.2 billion in grants and $60 million
00:33:23.940 in contracts to Harvard unless, essentially, we are going to hold your funding unless you
00:33:29.060 comply with these demands.
00:33:30.500 And I'm going to show you, because Harvard has released it, what they're asking them to do.
00:33:34.860 First, I should tell you, they've already complied with adopting the IRHA definition of antisemitism,
00:33:40.740 which is ridiculous.
00:33:42.280 But so how you have to read this is everywhere, and Skylar, if you don't mind making that a
00:33:46.420 little bigger for me, everywhere that you see the word antisemitism, you have to ask yourself
00:33:51.840 what the definition, the new definition of antisemitism is, because now we're at critique
00:33:57.440 of Israel, the foreign state, essentially.
00:34:00.480 So as they frame it down there as the discontinuation of DEI, which would be a good thing, saying that
00:34:06.600 we want people to be merit-based and to let go of DEI-based policies, that would be a great
00:34:11.760 thing, because that is how the nation should run.
00:34:13.920 They are actually asking them to reform programs that have egregious records of antisemitism or
00:34:21.340 other biases, telling them to look at specific programs.
00:34:25.040 Scroll down, Skylar, because I want to get to them essentially just framing this as them needing
00:34:31.300 to take a look at who they're even allowing to come to Harvard on foreign visas and whether or not
00:34:38.660 they disagree, with Israel's policies. Like, you have to adopt new policies about student groups
00:34:45.380 or clubs that forbid or endorse certain activities. They're talking about student groups that did not
00:34:52.640 get violent but are opposed to Israel's agenda, which is totally fair because this country is not
00:34:58.160 Israel. It's not Israel. You are totally allowed to critique Israel. I mean, it's an absolute nonsense.
00:35:04.080 It's telling them that these people need to be suspended, that they can't be allowed on campus.
00:35:09.940 Again, making us think that Bibi Netanyahu must be the president of the United States and Trump has
00:35:15.580 no idea what's going on. And I tend to think that there is a person who tells Trump that the press
00:35:20.660 is favorable, that they love this, that people are loving this. Trump's not on YouTube. He's not on X.
00:35:25.460 He says something to someone and they tweet it. Somebody decides what articles to put in front of him
00:35:31.980 every morning. I know that for a fact, okay? So he who is picking that article, he who is telling him
00:35:37.260 what tweets to look at, is the person that is shaping Trump's understanding of what his base feels.
00:35:44.960 Now, Harvard, like I said, adopted this definition after pressure for antisemitism. So every time
00:35:50.780 they mention antisemitism in those demands, which is plenty of times, they are referring to people that
00:35:57.260 are critiquing Israel. Let's pull up that IRHA definition of, I-H-R-A, pardon me, definition.
00:36:03.280 It says the guide follows these examples, which may serve for several illustrations.
00:36:10.980 Okay, the first one, you're like, yeah, calling for or justifying the killing or harming of Jews
00:36:15.180 in the name of radical ideology. Yeah, we already have laws in the book for that. You can't just like
00:36:19.420 ask people to be murdered. You'd be in trouble. That makes sense.
00:36:23.580 But then it gets really crazy because it says
00:36:28.300 accusing the Jews as a people or Israel as a state, sorry, that's inventing or exaggerating
00:36:38.920 the Holocaust. By the way, that's not even a crazy, that's completely absurd. You should be allowed to
00:36:44.220 in a country that has free speech. If you say, I think the Holocaust numbers were exaggerated or I
00:36:51.780 think they were underreported, that should be a matter of academic debate. That shouldn't be a
00:36:57.920 matter of you being suspended from campus. Somebody could say, no, let me rebut that. This only exists
00:37:04.080 for the Holocaust. If you go Google right now, Bolshevik revolution, how many people die? They'll
00:37:09.520 give you a range, 40 million to 60 million. How many Russians died in World War II? 80 million to 100
00:37:17.320 million. In what world could you not say? I think it's less. I think less Russians died during World
00:37:23.080 War II, actually. You're going to arrest me? You're going to arrest the kids? As opposed to just saying,
00:37:30.720 let me tell you why you're wrong? Does that seem normal to you guys? This is completely,
00:37:34.260 completely crazy. Let's pull up some more things because it gets even crazier. It says,
00:37:39.440 holding Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the state of Israel. Here's a clue.
00:37:45.820 If you want people who are feeling threatened on campus because of the response that people are
00:37:51.020 having to feeling like their rights are being infringed upon, maybe don't infringe upon their
00:37:56.640 rights to speech. This is not making it easier for their students on campus, I'm telling you, because
00:38:01.180 this is making it seem like they get special consideration because these rules were not put into
00:38:05.120 place to defend white people when BLM was going on, okay? These rules had never been put in place to
00:38:10.660 defend anybody else. So we're talking about speech censorship. That's on its face. It is speech
00:38:15.720 censorship. Speech that you don't like or speech that makes you uncomfortable is not violent. You're
00:38:21.420 not being hurt by speech or being challenged by ideas, okay? We got to get over snowflake culture.
00:38:26.920 Let's pull it back up because it's like part to the Bible. Oh, this, the craziest one right there is
00:38:31.520 accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel or to the alleged priority of Jews worldwide
00:38:38.900 than to the interests of their own nations. Lock them up. Lock them up. This guy thinks
00:38:46.000 that this person's more loyal to Israel. I will guarantee you that there are commentators right
00:38:51.760 now here in the United States who are more loyal to Israel than they are to the United States.
00:38:57.220 Common sense, obviously. Lock me up, Trump. Take me. Take me away, DeSantis. Yeah, I think there are
00:39:04.920 very clearly some people, David Friedman would be one of them, that I would say is more loyal to
00:39:10.520 Israel than he is to America. Oh, gosh. The feds are coming. You're done. How dare you? It's the worst
00:39:17.280 kind of anti-Semitism, listening to people's own words and deciding who they're more loyal to. Yeah,
00:39:22.080 duh. Anybody can be more loyal to any country. People could be more loyal to Russia than they are
00:39:27.620 to the United States. Maybe they're like, you know what? Russia has got an Orthodox Christian
00:39:32.800 community. I like it. I prefer it. Maybe I'm more loyal to Vatican City. Could you imagine a law that's
00:39:38.380 just like you can't you just cannot say that Catholics are more loyal to the Vatican City than they are to
00:39:45.140 America? We're going to lock you up. Absurd. Absolutely absurd and exhausting. It's like you're
00:39:51.920 not a victim because somebody says that. Disprove the notion. Say I'm not. You don't get to cry like
00:39:57.200 a baby and spike your ball and go home. It's just ridiculous. I mean, we know there are people that
00:40:02.400 are more loyal to the state. You know why I don't know how we know? Because this is even being written
00:40:05.800 down. Because this is even being considered as a definition, a working definition of a sentence.
00:40:10.820 Whoever created this working definition is more loyal to the state of Israel than they are to
00:40:15.120 America, because in America we believe in free speech. How about that? Anyways, so for them to make
00:40:19.960 Harvard adopt this definition and then to write out what they expect under this definition is the
00:40:26.460 suppression of speech. It's the suppression of speech. There's no other way. Look at it. The Trump
00:40:31.340 administration is fighting against free speech in America. And that is very sad for me to say and to
00:40:36.380 report as someone who has been a supporter of Donald Trump. Like I said, I think it is because
00:40:41.620 whoever is behind him whispering in his ear, you know, he who puts the print out the papers and
00:40:48.200 rubs his back and says, you're doing great. Everybody loves you is the person who is running
00:40:53.140 the White House. And it used to be Jared Kushner. And I don't know who that person is now, but I don't
00:40:58.980 like it. It is. We cannot allow our rights to be infringed upon. And if you think it's going to stop
00:41:05.120 with college campuses, you're out of your mind. So you better buck up and root for Harvard
00:41:10.600 University in this fight. You better hope that they defeat the Trump administration and this
00:41:15.080 absurd definition. They even include parts of the Bible. They're like, you can't say that the Jews
00:41:19.640 had anything to do with Christ, killing Christ, which is, you know what that is? It's anti-Catholic.
00:41:25.500 It's anti-Christian to tell me that we can't discuss how Christ was murdered. You know, we can't
00:41:30.700 discuss who it was that was plotting against Christ. We can't discuss the Pharisees and the
00:41:35.920 scribes anymore, guys. We can't discuss the teachers. Because according to the new working
00:41:41.680 definition, which all the college campuses are going to have to abide on first before they try
00:41:45.820 to mainstream this, lock me up. I'm saying it. You ain't going to get me. You are not going to get me
00:41:52.720 ever to comply with not speaking about Christ and being worried about your feelings and disregarding
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00:43:48.400 All right, you guys, for those of you that are in the book club, I am sorry. We are going to have to
00:43:55.320 bump it to tomorrow. It's totally my fault. I am saying way too many apologies. I'm usually so good
00:44:00.840 about scheduling, but I have just like, I just have to plead pregnancy on this one. I'm just like,
00:44:06.140 my whole day got bumps when we got that last minute thing about Harvey. And I just think that
00:44:10.620 tomorrow would be better. So tomorrow night, 6 p.m. Eastern, we'll have the book club. If you guys
00:44:16.880 have not signed up, that gives you an extra day to get Hollywood Babylon on Amazon. That's Hollywood
00:44:22.880 Babylon is our next read. So we will just be doing tomorrow at 6 o'clock p.m. Eastern, a combination
00:44:27.920 of the last couple of chapters and just kind of doing, remembering what we need to remember
00:44:34.620 to go into Hollywood Babylon about what we're taking away from chaos as we jump into Hollywood
00:44:38.460 Babylon, which, like I said, has been very serendipitous given everything that we are
00:44:42.720 speaking about with the Pasternak family, with Joe Pasternak, with understanding Paramount,
00:44:48.760 Columbia Studios, with the CIA. It's all going to fit in together very neatly. And we are also
00:44:53.980 going to speak about occult, the occult, because we absolutely have to speak about the occult.
00:44:58.360 Now I am going to read some of your comments here. Do we have a first? Zyra Mina writes,
00:45:06.320 I love that you're not taking your foot off of Harley's neck. If anyone can get to the bottom
00:45:09.640 of a sketch situation in a past that's trying to be erased, rewritten, or hidden, it is Suge. I mean,
00:45:15.840 Candace, we will miss you, Mama Bear. Thank you very much. I just don't like people that bully
00:45:20.520 other people. I just don't like what he did to Kanye. Whatever cocktail of drugs he gave him,
00:45:24.520 Kanye was never the same, but he remembers exactly what happened to him and who did it.
00:45:28.720 And I will always defend him from that because it's unimaginable to have the whole world then
00:45:32.600 call you crazy. And then you point and say, this person literally gave me a cocktail of drugs
00:45:36.560 and is threatening to do it again. And people just keep going, well, why are you so erratic
00:45:41.200 and crazy? It's, it can't happen. You know, uh, this person writes, this is the court of random
00:45:46.560 opinion for the granny. They're here for the granny grip stories. I mean, everybody get on it. Everyone
00:45:52.860 needs to be a victim these days. I'll tell you guys that. Yeah. My grandma survived slavery three
00:45:57.940 times. I just wanted you guys to know that about my granny. So, you know, it is what it is. Here's a
00:46:03.180 picture of her. Blurry pic of her. Uh, TB writes, Candice, please look into the Lou Taylor tri-star
00:46:09.700 sports and entertainment. Kanye tweeted a pic of her recently. She was behind the Britney
00:46:14.500 conservatorship. Bieber just fired her and she did Kylie cosmetics sales for Kris Jenner. Uh,
00:46:21.000 she, Kris Jenner and her are BFFs. Yeah, I've heard that name come up a bit. I will take a look at
00:46:24.820 that probably on maternity leave. We'll all have time to just do tons of deep dives and come back at
00:46:29.060 you guys with so much information. Brian, by the way, I don't do drugs. Okay. So if I'm found
00:46:34.480 floating in a bathroom, like I also don't take baths. So if I'm flying, it's just not me. Someone
00:46:42.020 did it. Okay. Someone did it. Brian writes, I rewatched yesterday's podcast and I'm struck by
00:46:47.040 so many similarities between some world leaders, the crime families and national security agencies.
00:46:51.620 Do you also see the similarities? Yeah. Uh, they are a part of something which we will get into when we
00:46:57.000 read Hollywood Babylon. And the more, you know, about Sigmund Freud, the better. That's what's
00:47:02.400 at the bottom of all this. It's psychology. That's why they're all psychologists. And it's a very scary
00:47:07.840 world when you realize that you are fighting people that believe in the occult. And that's just,
00:47:13.800 that is just the reality. They believe in the occult. S writes, hi, Candace, I'm Canadian and we have an
00:47:20.280 election coming. I feel demotivated to vote as both prime candidates seem to not be great and have
00:47:26.760 foreign allegiance. What do you think as a Muslim, Christ is king and God is the greatest.
00:47:31.300 I sense it. I agree. I understand why everybody is feeling fatigued with politics. It's like I said,
00:47:40.200 never been more obvious that the world is a stage and that people get up there to get elected and they
00:47:45.600 say things that you want to hear. And then as soon as they're in office, none of it happens. Um, or they
00:47:50.560 do the exact reverse thing that you thought was going to happen. So I guess I'm just kind of
00:47:55.180 empathizing with you, but I feel tremendously optimistic about the younger generation that's
00:48:00.720 coming up. And I'm tremendously optimistic about the conversations that we're having. We didn't get
00:48:04.260 to it today. We'll get to it tomorrow, but even Tucker Carlson going out on the third rail and
00:48:08.780 discussing 9-11 again and people that are starting to finally, I guess, just sort of remove the blinders
00:48:16.160 from their eyes and see what, how unreal the world we live in actually is and how orchestrated it all
00:48:23.560 is. That's kind of the first step, right? It's like realizing that the world is sick and that the
00:48:27.700 world is a stage. So at least we're at the first step. Kyle writes, either Trump has knelt or was
00:48:32.980 always a psyop. Solutions will never come from government. Democracy is always an illusion.
00:48:36.840 Decentralized systems must be built, disseminated, and adopted so as to make government superfluous.
00:48:45.540 I'm just going to read that comment and let it sit. You know, I agree that democracy is totally
00:48:50.300 an illusion. I believe in decentralized systems. And you obviously know that the CIA is fearful of
00:48:55.400 that when you get into looking into all the mysterious crypto deaths. Definitely something
00:48:59.740 that happened there. Black Scorpio writes, Stephanie Jones is obviously lying. Otherwise,
00:49:04.220 they would produce a copy. That simple. Drop the receipts. Brian Friedman it. Lawsuitinfo.com.
00:49:10.820 Drop it all. Let us read it and say who's telling the truth. She won't do that. She's just like,
00:49:15.000 write the article. I'll show you the subpoena, but we're not going to show the public the subpoena,
00:49:18.480 but there was a subpoena and that's what I was doing. No, you're not. It's just not honest,
00:49:21.740 Steph, because you would have dropped it in your own lawsuit. You would have seen the subpoena as proof
00:49:26.600 in your own lawsuit, like the appendix G or something would have been like, here's the subpoena that I
00:49:31.280 received and I was complying with. If you were just being an evil wench,
00:49:34.080 just submit it. Just submit it. Builds by Taylor writes, Walter Pasternak's nephew,
00:49:41.160 Paul Pasternak, did a phone interview back in 2015 regarding his uncle's involvement in MKUltra.
00:49:47.560 Oh, that's interesting. So if we knew that he had a nephew named Paul, we might be able to attach
00:49:52.300 him to that Walter Pasternak that I found at the, that was buried in Arlington. That's interesting.
00:50:00.980 Thank you for that. It says the video can be found here on YouTube. Thank you. Thank you. I will
00:50:04.920 search for that. Otherwise you guys send me more tips at candaceowens.com. Love you majorly. I can't
00:50:13.340 believe, by the way, what do we have? Like seven episodes left, eight episodes left. This is,
00:50:16.940 we're at the end here. I can't believe it. We're at the end. It's only going to be for a little bit,
00:50:21.700 but it's going to be sad. Anyways, you guys will see you tomorrow.