Candace Candace is back, and she's here to debunk the theory that Charlie Kirk was killed by a member of his own staff at Turning Point USA. She's also here to explain why she thinks this is a worldwide investigation, and why she's not happy with the way things have been handled so far.
00:00:00.000All right, you guys. So a week before Charlie lost his life, he expressed some concerns about the finances at Turning Point USA. In fact, he wanted to put together an entire department, a little mini department to address those concerns. And we have evidence of that. It is always the advice when investigating any crime to, quote unquote, follow the money. So let's do that. Just a little bit here.
00:00:21.420Plus, there is a video that has gone absolutely viral. I am sure you have seen it. It was emailed to me many times where there is a theory that is being floated that Charlie was shot from the back. Now, there are two aspects in that video that we can debunk. And I want to do that. And there's one aspect that we cannot debunk clearly. I think this is a worldwide investigation. So I want to assist wherever it is that I can. So welcome back to Candace.
00:01:03.960There's a lot of leaking going on right now.
00:01:06.380And I've been very clear that everything in my soul has been screaming at me from the very moment that I found out that Charlie got shot, that this story is much bigger, that there just was something much bigger going on than what has thus far been presented to the public.
00:01:24.040You know, all of the wrong people are eulogizing him. They're lying about small things, which I don't like. Because why lie about small things? Only a guilty conscience of sorts lies about little things.
00:01:38.120And there are a few points that we have covered throughout the story that right away jumped out at me as odd. First and foremost, of course, Bibi Netanyahu over inserting himself, not even just on day one, minute one.
00:01:51.800He tweeted before the president of the United States that Charlie had lost his life. That's weird. It's very weird. And we should not forget how weird that is, especially because when he went on multiple hits doing Fox News and Greta Van Cistern's show, he lied about the contents of a letter that Charlie Kirk had written him back in May.
00:02:12.080What I also don't like are the people like Josh Hammer and Seth Dillon, people that I know who are very nasty and work behind the scenes. I don't like that they have not yet been honest or forthcoming about the pressure that they and others were putting on Charlie Kirk.
00:02:29.540That just strikes me as odd. There's no reason to lie. No reason to pretend that you weren't doing that, to try to massage it and lie about it. I believe that there are lies by omission and I view them both to be liars.
00:02:43.460And of course, who could forget the word length of Bill Ackman's reply? I tell you guys about this weekend in the Hamptons. I tell you about Bibi Netanyahu calling Charlie Kirk and inviting him to Israel. And Bill Ackman replies with an essay, college essay, 959 words to be precise, was his response to me speaking about that, where he himself did not actually address my point about the quote unquote intervention, which is how Charlie described it himself.
00:03:13.080And my point about Bibi Netanyahu and the offer to take turning point to the next level financially. No one wants to address those points. Because I was being honest, people thought that Charlie's ideas were trending in the wrong direction. And by the way, regarding that now infamous weekend, the response videos that were made, which seems like there was some sort of a PR crisis going on, the response tweets that were fashioned.
00:03:41.720They were sort of getting funny. Xavier DeRusso was there. I had reached out to him. He had, rather than answering me, messaged me to say, I am speaking out about that weekend.
00:03:54.540And he made a video where he formally addressed the weekend and explained that, yes, Charlie, and he uses the phrase moral blackmail. Charlie spoke about feeling morally blackmailed. But this was done in more of a workshop setting, essentially like it was a debate club. And they were strengthening their debates on the topic of Israel. We can take a listen to Xavier DeRusso in his own words.
00:04:21.260And then people are taking things out of context because there was like a, in the article, the hit piece that came out, it talks about how Charlie raised up his phone and had written on Twitter. And he said something like, Bibi needs to resign or something like that. And he goes, what would happen if I do this? There was discourse. And then there was one woman who sat in the back who said, if you do that, you're indirectly going to empower Hamas.
00:04:43.920And then Charlie was like, see, you have to stop saying like that. He was saying that when you are debating about Israel, you need to stop doing it emotionally. You need to do it logically and factually. Otherwise, you lose the debate.
00:04:53.800He said it is moral blackmail if you say that somebody's saying that a politician is bad, that you're then empowering a terrorist organization. Fair argument.
00:05:02.080It was a fair argument, but it also was a real argument. And you kind of removed the names that were involved in this conversation. Natasha Hausdorff was there. Seth Dillon was there. And Seth Dillon was the one that was applying pressure to him. And Seth Dillon and Josh Hammer, Josh Hammer didn't jump on him in that moment. We're not happy.
00:05:20.460They were not happy with Charlie at the end of this weekend in the Hamptons because, again, they saw which way the wind was traveling in terms of his positions on Bibi Netanyahu and Israel. And they were, in fact, being accusatory. And again, you don't have to take it in my words or Xavier's words. I've always had a friendly relationship with Xavier.
00:05:39.720But we should listen to Charlie's own words, which we have played multiple times, of what happened the day after this little weekend retreat where he vented to Megyn Kelly his frustrations with him being wrongly labeled anti-Semitic and how it was actually pushing him away and it wasn't good for Israel.
00:05:56.360Then, and that one of the big questions that we discovered or that we asked and something that we had discovered was that this weekend was kept hush-hush, which is extraordinarily unusual for a turning point event.
00:06:10.220If you're going to fly your influencers out, you want them to influence, obviously.
00:06:15.620And Xavier offered this explanation for why they didn't post about the weekend until they were rumbled about the weekend. Take a listen.
00:06:26.360And then you have the people who are trying to go and say that, oh, then why was the meeting so secretive?
00:06:31.360The photos were already on my Instagram.
00:06:33.920The reason we didn't post that in the real time was because of safety.
00:06:38.180Do you know how many people would have loved to come and slaughter that whole hotel?
00:06:44.240Feeling like Justin Bieber because it's not clocking for me.
00:06:49.000So first off, you guys never connected to Turning Point USA publicly.
00:06:52.140The photos that you posted, if you posted it after the event, I don't think that it's because you were fearful that what just being a conservative in the Hamptons was going to get you slaughtered, like were there Hamas tunnels under the Hamptons?
00:07:10.680And we should call out how little sense that makes, especially because one of the influencers did post on August 6th that she was in the Hamptons.
00:08:08.380I am looking at Marissa Strait right there, right there, a little PR operation to address the points without actually addressing the points and to make it seem like it was nothing.
00:08:42.920Even if you disagreed with somebody, you know, you got to make sure that they have a right to express their viewpoints.
00:08:47.960And what happened to me a year earlier seemed to be happening to him one year later.
00:08:54.560Another thing that I really do not like and it is bothering me and is eating at me is the fact that Turning Point will not release the footage.
00:09:02.960Every excuse that I have been handed for why they won't release it makes no sense to me.
00:09:07.040If you are under pressure, if people are starting to look at you funny as an organization, if they're thinking that whether rightfully or wrongfully, if they are suspecting because they see this footage of someone quickly remove the SD cards that you guys had something to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
00:09:25.780and you quite literally have footage that in theory should vindicate yourself, why wouldn't you release it?
00:10:20.500That said, I also want to be clear that it doesn't mean that every single person that is continuing on in the organization is guilty of murder.
00:10:28.100I mean, I think we want answers, but we shouldn't be like, you know, this person is definitely a murderer because they're not providing the answers.
00:10:35.720You know, I've been speaking and I've been seeing a lot of vitriol that's been thrown at Andrew Colvett's way because he is doing press.
00:10:42.400He is carrying on Charlie Kirk's show.
00:10:44.680He was already seated on Charlie Kirk's show.
00:10:52.640He's the spokesperson for Turning Point USA, and he's grieving somebody that he knows and who was a very close, if not one of his best friends.
00:11:01.860He saw every day doing the Charlie Kirk show, and he's still got to deal with the same donors that Charlie was dealing with.
00:11:08.000I mean, it's a lot going on, you know, and until we have all the facts in front of us, until we actually see the footage, I think we should be careful in just thinking that everybody is guilty of something.
00:11:21.140I want you guys to also, though, be conscious of the lies that we are being told by the federal government because that feels extremely guilty to me.
00:11:32.380We haven't received any updates whatsoever on the raid that took place of Lance's house where Tyler Robinson was living at the time of this crime.
00:12:17.460So I had been hunting down all of the videos, all of the footage, and wanted to go back to ground zero, as we did yesterday, of the initial videos that went viral on social media and on X on the day that Charlie was assassinated.
00:12:30.040And it occurred to me that I forgot about one video.
00:12:34.580Actually, the only video that exists of the shooter sprinting across the rooftop a mere seconds after the shot was fired.
00:12:44.260Now, you probably recall that video in the back of your mind.
00:12:47.120You remember that video that was going viral of him seen running across the roof.
00:12:51.380Well, I'm about to show it to you in a much clearer quality than you have ever seen it, a higher quality than you have ever seen that video.
00:12:58.840Remember, before I show it to you, just to tee this up, it is just a couple of seconds after the sound of a shot rang out.
00:14:10.280And the feds were simply not interested, as they were executing this manhunt, of reaching out to the individual who had footage of him running across the roof.
00:14:37.340But at no point did they go, hey, hmm, I see this really grainy image that's gone viral on Twitter.
00:14:43.160Maybe I should reach out to the person that made it go viral and see if I can track down that person so I can get clear data, meaning the metadata that exists, which will tell you the exact second that the person was running to make sure it lines up with my federal timeline that I must be creating.
00:14:57.120If little old Candace is doing it, then I'm sure the feds at the top are definitely creating a second-by-second timeline just like I am.
00:15:04.180But no, they never reached out to him.
00:15:08.100Now I'll tell you what else I discovered because a lot is going on.
00:15:12.160And we similarly, by the way, reached out to the person who shot the footage and said, somebody is on the roof.
00:15:17.900We spoke about that earlier this week.
00:15:21.640He says he walked in and gave the footage to the Orem Police Department, okay?
00:15:29.000Nobody, and they said, you know, we were overwhelmed on that day one, which makes sense.
00:15:32.920Everybody contacting, calling, someone says, I have this.
00:15:35.440So it makes sense that he would be on the offense and getting them the footage.
00:15:39.020But the feds never reached out to him until the 15th.
00:15:43.960After Governor Cox said the investigation was over and they had the guy, the feds reached out to him and said, hey, you're the one who shot that footage.
00:15:58.300What do you mean you didn't know that?
00:16:00.320This is the first time the federal government on the 15th decided to reach out to the other person who saw the person climbing the roof.
00:16:06.900I mean, I saw the person getting into the shooting position.
00:16:09.140You never reached out to him until September 15th.
00:16:12.140But, yeah, my friends, that looks to me like a cover-up, not like you're trying to get to the bottom of something, not with the amount of money that the feds have.
00:16:21.940You can't tell me that they did not reach out to these two individuals.
00:16:26.640There's another piece of this that is getting quite interesting, and I will say that this next piece that I have is in large part thanks to a multitude of leaks that are coming out of Turning Point USA.
00:16:38.020Now, right away, you might ask, why is that happening?
00:16:40.500Well, I can tell you in my experience, political organizations sometimes don't recognize that they are not like corporate organizations.
00:16:50.460And what I mean by that is not whether or not the organization is a corporate, but rather sometimes they get the wrong idea that they can sort of do things that people can do on Wall Street, right?
00:17:00.380Like if a CEO steps down from Wendy's, you can just replace that person as another CEO and nobody cares.
00:17:07.860If you're buying chicken nuggets from Wendy's, you don't really care who the CEO is.
00:17:11.380It doesn't really work like that with political organizations, right?
00:17:13.980Political, when it comes to politics, people get behind someone because they believe in that individual's ideas, right?
00:17:20.560You can't just play a swapsie all the time or think it's just going to go on, and you're still going to have that same energy behind you.
00:17:26.980And so obviously this is a terrible situation, and Charlie is gone.
00:17:31.360But with people not getting answers, right, with people that are working at Turning Point USA not feeling like, okay, are we as an organization fighting?
00:17:41.600Are we going to speak about the things that Charlie cared about?
00:17:44.760Are we going to call out the things that we feel are wrong here?
00:17:46.920However, they're not wanting to get behind that.
00:17:50.240They feel that the organization is now being motivated just by money and that this company's priorities have somewhat shifted and that really how people on the outside that are looking in are going, what's going on here?
00:18:03.500Why are people not more rattled by the lies that are being told?
00:18:06.940Actually, I think if Charlie were here, he'd be talking about the weird things that were being told about this story, right?
00:18:14.140And so many people have reached out and they spoke about the finances at Turning Point USA.
00:18:20.260And, you know, I'm not exactly a forensic accountant, but I know that other people, other journalists got really interested in this angle who were similarly receiving leaks and have pushed this off to forensic accountants.
00:18:30.520And some of the stuff is getting very interesting.
00:18:33.020But I did want to show you guys this because I think this proves what we have been hearing.
00:18:37.800It's at least a starting point, an insider who said that they were there and present when Charlie had expressed some concerns about where the money was going.
00:18:50.700And leading up to that moment, Charlie had by and large completely removed himself outside of the organ of fundraising, which is to say that it wasn't something that he necessarily had his finger on.
00:19:02.620And, of course, he always would show up for top donor meetings.
00:19:31.080I'll say allegedly here, but I think we have some proof that shows that.
00:19:33.620And the excuses that he was being given for the money disappearing wasn't adding up for Charlie.
00:19:41.100Said another way, the math wasn't mathing, okay?
00:19:43.460He felt that, again, according to sources, that the company was burning through cash too quickly.
00:19:50.220And Charlie set about finding out why and how this was happening.
00:19:57.060So on September 2nd, which is, of course, just one week before he lost his life, Charlie surprised the company by announcing that he was putting together a Doge department.
00:20:09.500Yes, a Department of Government Efficiency, like Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, had set out to do.
00:21:07.240Justin Strife is taking on a new elevated role with Turning Point USA as its COO.
00:21:11.940Since joining TPUSA in 2020, Justin has led Turning Point's fundraising division and in more recent years has been involved in some organizational operations.
00:21:20.300Filling the COO role in many ways, but now officially taking on the title and expanded responsibilities.
00:21:25.060Now we're going to jump to that last big paragraph.
00:21:28.600What's in this role, I have empowered Justin, among other priorities, to engage in an organizational-wide Doge effort.
00:21:36.420Justin will be assembling a small team to assist in this effort, which is focused on Turning Point USA, one, becoming more efficient, two, becoming more cost-effective, three, unifying organizational success around company-wide metrics
00:21:49.180and goals, and four, reshaping company culture.
00:21:51.820I expect many positive changes to come from this forthcoming initiative and Justin's expanded role.
00:21:58.940Please join me in congratulating Justin on this new role with the organization.
00:22:02.820So I felt that with all of the rumors that I'm hearing, to see that Charlie was essentially putting together a small team to begin looking at money and ways to be more, quote-unquote, efficient,
00:22:14.720it's looking like that's relevant, that all of these tips that we are receiving from insiders is accurate.
00:22:23.120And what we're understanding is that there are a lot of contractors and people, essentially, who were taking money both ways, who were bringing in money and cutting deals, said simply the money was looking funny, okay?
00:22:40.260And Charlie set out to determine why, which means that others should maybe set out to determine why.
00:22:47.260And like I said to you, others are setting out to determine why.
00:22:50.720There are journalists, forensic accountants that have been hired, and what I have been shown, the preliminary findings are quite astonishing, okay?
00:23:27.560Either speaking about companies that were kind of flooding the zone with money so that they could have more influence, but they had questions about those companies.
00:23:34.120It sounds like there were people who were effectively double agents, making money on commissions on both sides of a contract.
00:23:43.340I've seen a lot, and I'm going to allow the reports to come out next week that people who have really seized upon that and are looking at things.
00:23:53.060And I think a lot's going to be revealed, like I said, as it should.
00:23:56.960We want to know absolutely everything.
00:23:58.940I'm going to tell you guys a bit more, as well as responding to a lot of what I think are just unfair criticisms of people that are attacking Erica.
00:24:09.000And I'll tell you why I feel that those criticisms are unfair.
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00:26:16.600And by the way, I am so happy that it's got six million views.
00:26:20.020Everybody investigating this is exactly what we need, and nobody is going to be perfect.
00:26:23.640We're going to get things wrong, and we can only work with the information that's been given to us, and for whatever reason, it's very limited.
00:26:30.140So anything that I'm debunking here is just because I want to help focus his investigation.
00:26:34.480But so he presents an argument that you can see a muzzle flash, and there is one element of his video where he shows what he believes to be blood splatter as an entry point on Charlie's neck.
00:27:11.340This is the angle he is showing the shot coming from, showing where Charlie was sitting, and the angle of the shot, which will correspond with this video here, which unfortunately we will blur out Charlie's face.
00:27:24.300But we will show what is necessary to prove that this was an entry and exit wound.
00:27:28.740So you'll see him circle the highlighted area right there, and you'll see the exit wound corresponding after, split second after, as it would from an entry and exit wound.
00:27:39.780So in this footage, you can clearly see that Charlie is shot from his back right, and there is blood splatter coming out of the entry wound.
00:27:52.900So what I can immediately help with, because I have so much footage and clearer footage of that, is that's actually not blood splatter, and I was very surprised by this.
00:29:09.340But from everything that I could see, those windows don't open.
00:29:12.400And so if it's coming from inside, if that's where you're saying, and I had that location correctly, again, I'm happy to update this if I'm wrong, then we should see broken glass.
00:29:21.780So let me know if I'm right about that.
00:29:23.440I will say there was another piece, and this part I have not been able to debunk, but I am sending someone there to get me similar footage, which is when you discuss a suspicious-looking bush.
00:29:35.840So I will let you, I will let Range Day Bro present that theory.
00:29:41.080I want to take a look at this photo next.
00:29:43.920This guy is talking about this bush up here in the top left of this photo, and he zooms in on it, and he's stating that it does look suspicious.
00:30:02.080Very blurry image, but you can clearly make out that this is not just a bush.
00:30:05.860This is a human skin tone right here, and this correlates with human head and hair and a rifle in the exact kind of crucifix shape of an AR-15 with an optic on it mounted up.
00:30:17.580So what I can say, and I'm looking at my minute-to-minute text messages because I sent somebody there on the ground to get me pictures of that bush today, and I agree with you.
00:30:26.580In the photos that I'm looking at today, the bush, you can kind of see through it, and in the image that you have, granted, it is grainy.
00:30:36.760It doesn't seem like you can see through it, so I am interested in that, and I am prodding that narrative, and I will let you know what I come up with.
00:30:44.500Anyways, again, the point of me doing that was just to help further direct your theories.
00:30:49.380Everybody is coming out with ideas, and I think that's great.
00:30:52.540Until the feds answer our questions, until we see more footage of what took place that day, all of us need to stay on top of it because we all sense that something is very wrong.
00:31:02.980One more thing that I'd like to share with you guys.
00:31:05.460As you will recall, yesterday during the comments section, we got a tip, a young woman, that said that that doorbell footage was intentionally presented to the public, only partially, and that the reality is that there was more footage, which showed the person that they alleged is Tyler Robinson walking with a woman who they don't know who that is, and that he changes clothes.
00:31:31.580So I'm not sure if there was more footage on the side of the house.
00:31:35.140There's another angle, but there is allegedly footage of Tyler changing clothes, and he is with an unidentified woman, a woman.
00:31:42.080What I will say is I have established connection with that individual, and it's a solid lead, and it's only going to get more interesting in terms of who is involved in that cover-up locally, like a Utah person involved in that cover-up, which is another piece of this puzzle that I find to be fascinating.
00:31:59.820I will have more for you guys next week as we continue this.
00:32:03.100I always want to make sure that we give people an opportunity to respond and to answer what it is that we are putting out there and making sure that our reports are accurate, and I will have more for you on that next week.
00:32:13.720I do also want to address people who are inundating me speaking about Erica Kirk, and I think the reason why this was catalyzed was because a fundraising email and text messages went out, and people found it to be distasteful and fundraising off of his death.
00:32:32.160Okay, first and foremost, the reason why I said, and I meant it genuinely, was to pray for Erica a couple of days ago, and I said she is stepping into a role as CEO and the chairman of a company, a company that got bigger than Charlie by everything that I am understanding, and just having been there, I saw it happening, and a company that she's going to have to learn in four seconds how this whole thing is working.
00:32:58.160Those emails that you saw or checking, that was not written by Erica Kirk.
00:33:02.020That will be an entire department, and these are emails when you fundraise.
00:33:06.140I've had fundraising emails go out with my face and my name on them.
00:33:09.900They are not authored by Erica Kirk, and I want you guys to know that, right?
00:33:13.860I just think it's like, I don't know, it just feels so unfair to me to assign this, the amount of pressure that is on her right now.
00:33:21.940No, she has not come out and said anything to me that makes her suspicious, because I understand how that organ works, and I understand how people, when they are motivated by money, how they don't even think about these things.
00:33:34.500I mean, I have really gotten into arguments with people when I felt that they were using my face and representing things, and I was getting pushback from the public, and I'm like, I would have never done this.
00:33:43.640I would have never made that decision, and yet I'm going to be the person that gets all the flack for the decision that you made.
00:33:48.900I've had those arguments, and so when I see this go out, irrespective of how you feel, you should know that those decisions are not made by Erica.
00:33:56.860That's what it means to step into a company of that size and that scale, okay?
00:34:02.080Their focus is going to be something different, and she has had, I think, a tremendous amount of grace in the speech that she gave, which I felt was very inspiring,
00:34:11.640and we should similarly have grace, give her time to get her, first and foremost, the adjustment in her life.
00:34:19.740She's a mother, first and foremost, right?
00:34:33.000This is a woman who consulted a priest and prayed when she felt that somebody had put a hex on her husband,
00:34:40.980and I just think everyone is being a little unfair by trying to assign so much ill will towards someone who hasn't done anything to warrant that,
00:34:53.440and I would have been the first person.
00:34:55.840If I felt that anything was there, I would have said something truly in every capacity,
00:35:00.640and, of course, I'm not in their marriage, but I know that Charlie was very happy with Erica,
00:38:23.640I just know that it's a ticking time bomb, right, before they're all exposed.
00:38:30.300And I think a financial audit is interesting.
00:38:32.640I think there were a lot of pastors that were around Charlie who weren't exactly honest about whether or not they were financially motivated to say some certain things.
00:38:43.760You know, a lot of these organizations that are like Christian and Jews, organizations, funds that are coming together have been interesting.
00:38:52.500You know, Operation Mocking Pastor is a real thing.
00:38:55.460And I know that at the end of the day, my hands are clean.
00:38:58.900My hands are absolutely clean and so I don't care about people that are lying because a lie always has to sprint, right?
00:39:05.740A lie always has to sprint and it's because it's fearful.
00:39:09.540It's very afraid because people only have to hear the truth once to know that it is the truth.
00:39:15.400They have to hear the lie over and over.
00:39:17.840It begs repetition a lie, but the truth doesn't care.
00:40:06.560It's wild that Candace is the only right wing figure that I've seen posting in a way where she seems genuinely devastated to lose Charlie as a friend.
00:40:34.040Renee writes, have you covered the Amazon listing from September 9th for a book about Charlie with all the details, which were pretty accurate, of what happened on the 10th?
00:40:42.220I have a picture of a screenshot supposedly verified.
00:40:44.340Yeah, I think Amazon came out and said that it was a technical error because I guess you can adjust the date.
00:40:51.740To be honest with you, I didn't look into it because there's a thousand ways that you could run with this.
00:40:56.800And I wanted to keep the pressure on the feds.
00:40:59.120And I wanted to keep the pressure on getting as much information as I could about what took place on that day.
00:41:04.480But I know there are people that have made a lot of videos about that.
00:41:23.420And I can't think about being in politics without Charlie.
00:41:27.320So that's why it's been, it feels like I have to accept that a piece of my life died, like years of my life died with him a little bit.
00:41:35.740And he was like one of the only like two people in politics that I can even stand because he was a real straight shooter with me.
00:41:43.300Thistle writes, I wanted to ask your thoughts about the fact that quote unquote notes on bullets have been everywhere while our representatives are signing the bombs they drop on innocent people.
00:43:13.840And also, does anyone else find etchings on the bullet casings conveniently found at all of the occurrences of violent crimes lately quite suspicious?