Candace Owens - Charlie Kirk Expressed Concerns About TPUSA Finances ｜ Candace Ep 243

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys. So a week before Charlie lost his life, he expressed some concerns about the finances at Turning Point USA. In fact, he wanted to put together an entire department, a little mini department to address those concerns. And we have evidence of that. It is always the advice when investigating any crime to, quote unquote, follow the money. So let's do that. Just a little bit here.

00:00:21.420 Plus, there is a video that has gone absolutely viral. I am sure you have seen it. It was emailed to me many times where there is a theory that is being floated that Charlie was shot from the back. Now, there are two aspects in that video that we can debunk. And I want to do that. And there's one aspect that we cannot debunk clearly. I think this is a worldwide investigation. So I want to assist wherever it is that I can. So welcome back to Candace.

00:00:51.420 Candace.

00:01:00.960 Candace.

00:01:03.960 There's a lot of leaking going on right now.

00:01:06.380 And I've been very clear that everything in my soul has been screaming at me from the very moment that I found out that Charlie got shot, that this story is much bigger, that there just was something much bigger going on than what has thus far been presented to the public.

00:01:24.040 You know, all of the wrong people are eulogizing him. They're lying about small things, which I don't like. Because why lie about small things? Only a guilty conscience of sorts lies about little things.

00:01:38.120 And there are a few points that we have covered throughout the story that right away jumped out at me as odd. First and foremost, of course, Bibi Netanyahu over inserting himself, not even just on day one, minute one.

00:01:51.800 He tweeted before the president of the United States that Charlie had lost his life. That's weird. It's very weird. And we should not forget how weird that is, especially because when he went on multiple hits doing Fox News and Greta Van Cistern's show, he lied about the contents of a letter that Charlie Kirk had written him back in May.

00:02:12.080 What I also don't like are the people like Josh Hammer and Seth Dillon, people that I know who are very nasty and work behind the scenes. I don't like that they have not yet been honest or forthcoming about the pressure that they and others were putting on Charlie Kirk.

00:02:29.540 That just strikes me as odd. There's no reason to lie. No reason to pretend that you weren't doing that, to try to massage it and lie about it. I believe that there are lies by omission and I view them both to be liars.

00:02:43.460 And of course, who could forget the word length of Bill Ackman's reply? I tell you guys about this weekend in the Hamptons. I tell you about Bibi Netanyahu calling Charlie Kirk and inviting him to Israel. And Bill Ackman replies with an essay, college essay, 959 words to be precise, was his response to me speaking about that, where he himself did not actually address my point about the quote unquote intervention, which is how Charlie described it himself.

00:03:13.080 And my point about Bibi Netanyahu and the offer to take turning point to the next level financially. No one wants to address those points. Because I was being honest, people thought that Charlie's ideas were trending in the wrong direction. And by the way, regarding that now infamous weekend, the response videos that were made, which seems like there was some sort of a PR crisis going on, the response tweets that were fashioned.

00:03:41.720 They were sort of getting funny. Xavier DeRusso was there. I had reached out to him. He had, rather than answering me, messaged me to say, I am speaking out about that weekend.

00:03:54.540 And he made a video where he formally addressed the weekend and explained that, yes, Charlie, and he uses the phrase moral blackmail. Charlie spoke about feeling morally blackmailed. But this was done in more of a workshop setting, essentially like it was a debate club. And they were strengthening their debates on the topic of Israel. We can take a listen to Xavier DeRusso in his own words.

00:04:21.260 And then people are taking things out of context because there was like a, in the article, the hit piece that came out, it talks about how Charlie raised up his phone and had written on Twitter. And he said something like, Bibi needs to resign or something like that. And he goes, what would happen if I do this? There was discourse. And then there was one woman who sat in the back who said, if you do that, you're indirectly going to empower Hamas.

00:04:43.920 And then Charlie was like, see, you have to stop saying like that. He was saying that when you are debating about Israel, you need to stop doing it emotionally. You need to do it logically and factually. Otherwise, you lose the debate.

00:04:53.800 He said it is moral blackmail if you say that somebody's saying that a politician is bad, that you're then empowering a terrorist organization. Fair argument. 0.99

00:05:02.080 It was a fair argument, but it also was a real argument. And you kind of removed the names that were involved in this conversation. Natasha Hausdorff was there. Seth Dillon was there. And Seth Dillon was the one that was applying pressure to him. And Seth Dillon and Josh Hammer, Josh Hammer didn't jump on him in that moment. We're not happy.

00:05:20.460 They were not happy with Charlie at the end of this weekend in the Hamptons because, again, they saw which way the wind was traveling in terms of his positions on Bibi Netanyahu and Israel. And they were, in fact, being accusatory. And again, you don't have to take it in my words or Xavier's words. I've always had a friendly relationship with Xavier.

00:05:39.720 But we should listen to Charlie's own words, which we have played multiple times, of what happened the day after this little weekend retreat where he vented to Megyn Kelly his frustrations with him being wrongly labeled anti-Semitic and how it was actually pushing him away and it wasn't good for Israel.

00:05:56.360 Then, and that one of the big questions that we discovered or that we asked and something that we had discovered was that this weekend was kept hush-hush, which is extraordinarily unusual for a turning point event.

00:06:10.220 If you're going to fly your influencers out, you want them to influence, obviously.

00:06:15.620 And Xavier offered this explanation for why they didn't post about the weekend until they were rumbled about the weekend. Take a listen.

00:06:26.360 And then you have the people who are trying to go and say that, oh, then why was the meeting so secretive?

00:06:31.360 The photos were already on my Instagram.

00:06:33.920 The reason we didn't post that in the real time was because of safety.

00:06:38.180 Do you know how many people would have loved to come and slaughter that whole hotel?

00:06:44.240 Feeling like Justin Bieber because it's not clocking for me.

00:06:47.900 I'm sorry.

00:06:49.000 So first off, you guys never connected to Turning Point USA publicly.

00:06:52.140 The photos that you posted, if you posted it after the event, I don't think that it's because you were fearful that what just being a conservative in the Hamptons was going to get you slaughtered, like were there Hamas tunnels under the Hamptons?

00:07:07.700 That doesn't make sense.

00:07:08.860 That makes entirely no sense.

00:07:10.680 And we should call out how little sense that makes, especially because one of the influencers did post on August 6th that she was in the Hamptons.

00:07:19.680 Actually, Emily, Emily loves America.

00:07:22.720 Emily saves America.

00:07:23.820 Pardon me.

00:07:24.300 Emily said when she was fighting with somebody about how little their engagement ring was during this weekend.

00:07:30.300 How do you guys expect to have a house land and multiple kids be for real? 0.62

00:07:34.300 Sorry, I'm MIA.

00:07:35.440 I'm in the Hamptons.

00:07:37.780 So are conservatives not allowed to be in the Hamptons without getting slaughtered?

00:07:40.920 Is it specifically conservative influencers?

00:07:43.520 You said that it wasn't a pro-Israel event.

00:07:45.160 So I guess there's no Israel angle here, which does, of course, there's tons of Zionists in the Hamptons, the Lachman among them. 0.91

00:07:52.440 So I don't understand.

00:07:53.600 You couldn't post that you were in the Hamptons because you were going to get killed.

00:07:56.720 How? 0.87

00:07:57.400 I need more information there because that's just silly.

00:08:01.340 And I also love the context of him doing this on PragerU's platform.

00:08:06.000 I obviously worked for PragerU.

00:08:07.380 I know Marissa Strait. 1.00

00:08:08.380 I am looking at Marissa Strait right there, right there, a little PR operation to address the points without actually addressing the points and to make it seem like it was nothing.

00:08:19.500 And that's not the reality.

00:08:21.020 You know, Marissa has never always been open about the fact that she worked for the IDF Intelligence.

00:08:25.660 And like I said, you could sense there was a PR panic when people started speaking about the weekend.

00:08:30.460 I told you guys the truth.

00:08:31.980 That's it.

00:08:32.960 Okay.

00:08:33.160 I don't like the fact that Charlie was literally facing financial threats over his speech, the thing that mattered most to him, right?

00:08:41.660 Fighting for free speech.

00:08:42.920 Even if you disagreed with somebody, you know, you got to make sure that they have a right to express their viewpoints.

00:08:47.960 And what happened to me a year earlier seemed to be happening to him one year later.

00:08:54.560 Another thing that I really do not like and it is bothering me and is eating at me is the fact that Turning Point will not release the footage.

00:09:01.560 Okay.

00:09:02.260 I don't understand it.

00:09:02.960 Every excuse that I have been handed for why they won't release it makes no sense to me.

00:09:07.040 If you are under pressure, if people are starting to look at you funny as an organization, if they're thinking that whether rightfully or wrongfully, if they are suspecting because they see this footage of someone quickly remove the SD cards that you guys had something to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk,

00:09:25.780 and you quite literally have footage that in theory should vindicate yourself, why wouldn't you release it?

00:09:33.280 Think about that.

00:09:34.360 It's just in your own capacity.

00:09:35.300 If somebody is saying you are guilty of anything, if they're like, Candace, you are absolutely guilty of breaking into my car.

00:09:42.080 And I'm like, I have a camera right here that shows that I did not break into your car.

00:09:47.380 Would it make sense if I was like, but I'm not going to release that?

00:09:49.500 I'm not going to release that because it's not right.

00:09:53.880 It's not right for me to release it.

00:09:54.700 What?

00:09:55.820 It makes no sense.

00:09:57.840 I don't understand why they would not release this.

00:10:00.320 The idea that it's because, well, the feds are saying the feds cannot arrest you.

00:10:03.540 Last I checked, the feds cannot bring charges against you for releasing footage that you own.

00:10:10.040 And since when do we trust the feds?

00:10:13.060 Certainly Charlie didn't.

00:10:14.460 He didn't believe we were getting the truth about the Epstein files and things of that nature.

00:10:17.660 So I don't accept that.

00:10:20.500 That said, I also want to be clear that it doesn't mean that every single person that is continuing on in the organization is guilty of murder.

00:10:28.100 I mean, I think we want answers, but we shouldn't be like, you know, this person is definitely a murderer because they're not providing the answers.

00:10:35.720 You know, I've been speaking and I've been seeing a lot of vitriol that's been thrown at Andrew Colvett's way because he is doing press.

00:10:42.400 He is carrying on Charlie Kirk's show.

00:10:44.680 He was already seated on Charlie Kirk's show.

00:10:46.600 He was already there.

00:10:48.160 And I was being genuine when I said he's under a lot of pressure.

00:10:51.740 There's no question.

00:10:52.640 He's the spokesperson for Turning Point USA, and he's grieving somebody that he knows and who was a very close, if not one of his best friends.

00:11:01.860 He saw every day doing the Charlie Kirk show, and he's still got to deal with the same donors that Charlie was dealing with.

00:11:08.000 I mean, it's a lot going on, you know, and until we have all the facts in front of us, until we actually see the footage, I think we should be careful in just thinking that everybody is guilty of something.

00:11:21.140 I want you guys to also, though, be conscious of the lies that we are being told by the federal government because that feels extremely guilty to me.

00:11:32.380 We haven't received any updates whatsoever on the raid that took place of Lance's house where Tyler Robinson was living at the time of this crime.

00:11:40.640 No update whatsoever on Lance.

00:11:42.520 You know, he just completely fell to the wayside.

00:11:44.580 So forget it.

00:11:45.600 Forget asking any questions about Lance.

00:11:47.480 And my instinct has always been that the feds injected themselves immediately into this case because they were staging a cover-up.

00:11:55.860 And now I feel as though we can almost establish that as a fact when I tell you something else that happened here, my next point.

00:12:04.900 So as you know, I have been positively obsessed with who killed Charlie Kirk because he was my friend.

00:12:09.560 He was actually my friend.

00:12:10.700 Everyone else who could eulogize all they want. 0.93

00:12:13.200 Some of it felt a little cheap and fake and gay. 0.92

00:12:15.720 But for me, this is real.

00:12:17.460 So I had been hunting down all of the videos, all of the footage, and wanted to go back to ground zero, as we did yesterday, of the initial videos that went viral on social media and on X on the day that Charlie was assassinated.

00:12:30.040 And it occurred to me that I forgot about one video.

00:12:34.580 Actually, the only video that exists of the shooter sprinting across the rooftop a mere seconds after the shot was fired.

00:12:44.260 Now, you probably recall that video in the back of your mind.

00:12:47.120 You remember that video that was going viral of him seen running across the roof.

00:12:51.380 Well, I'm about to show it to you in a much clearer quality than you have ever seen it, a higher quality than you have ever seen that video.

00:12:58.840 Remember, before I show it to you, just to tee this up, it is just a couple of seconds after the sound of a shot rang out.

00:13:06.200 Let's watch this together.

00:13:07.380 It kind of, and we're going to just cover that.

00:13:12.420 It kind of looks like he's got something trailing behind him, too.

00:13:15.640 Maybe that's the towel that we've been told about.

00:13:18.060 We can play that again as you watch this.

00:13:20.400 Now, let me tell you how I tracked down this footage.

00:13:26.380 It took me all of two hours to track down this footage, to get the name of the person who had filmed the footage.

00:13:35.280 And to, from there, after messaging someone on Twitter, they said, I got the footage from this person.

00:13:39.600 This is the person that shot it.

00:13:41.220 And he's willing to speak to you.

00:13:42.500 I get in touch with this individual.

00:13:44.320 Okay.

00:13:44.720 Very quickly.

00:13:45.280 It was all transpired in a couple of hours.

00:13:47.100 And you will never guess what it is that he told me.

00:13:51.420 He told me that neither the feds nor the local police had ever reached out to him.

00:13:58.360 Never.

00:14:00.340 I'm sorry, what?

00:14:02.100 You have one of two people who have a recording of the shooter at all, right?

00:14:09.680 At all.

00:14:10.280 And the feds were simply not interested, as they were executing this manhunt, of reaching out to the individual who had footage of him running across the roof.

00:14:27.080 How could that be?

00:14:29.320 Why?

00:14:30.300 Why would that be?

00:14:31.840 Somebody explain to me, make it make sense for me.

00:14:34.540 Maybe in the fog, in the chaos, sure.

00:14:37.340 But at no point did they go, hey, hmm, I see this really grainy image that's gone viral on Twitter.

00:14:43.160 Maybe I should reach out to the person that made it go viral and see if I can track down that person so I can get clear data, meaning the metadata that exists, which will tell you the exact second that the person was running to make sure it lines up with my federal timeline that I must be creating.

00:14:57.120 If little old Candace is doing it, then I'm sure the feds at the top are definitely creating a second-by-second timeline just like I am. 0.59

00:15:04.180 But no, they never reached out to him.

00:15:08.100 Now I'll tell you what else I discovered because a lot is going on.

00:15:12.160 And we similarly, by the way, reached out to the person who shot the footage and said, somebody is on the roof.

00:15:17.900 We spoke about that earlier this week.

00:15:19.380 He told us the exact same thing.

00:15:21.640 He says he walked in and gave the footage to the Orem Police Department, okay?

00:15:29.000 Nobody, and they said, you know, we were overwhelmed on that day one, which makes sense.

00:15:32.920 Everybody contacting, calling, someone says, I have this.

00:15:35.440 So it makes sense that he would be on the offense and getting them the footage.

00:15:39.020 But the feds never reached out to him until the 15th.

00:15:43.960 After Governor Cox said the investigation was over and they had the guy, the feds reached out to him and said, hey, you're the one who shot that footage.

00:15:53.240 Yeah.

00:15:53.460 Did you make a police report?

00:15:54.540 He said, yeah, I did.

00:15:56.100 And, oh, really?

00:15:57.280 We didn't know that.

00:15:58.300 What do you mean you didn't know that?

00:16:00.320 This is the first time the federal government on the 15th decided to reach out to the other person who saw the person climbing the roof.

00:16:06.900 I mean, I saw the person getting into the shooting position.

00:16:09.140 You never reached out to him until September 15th.

00:16:12.140 But, yeah, my friends, that looks to me like a cover-up, not like you're trying to get to the bottom of something, not with the amount of money that the feds have.

00:16:21.940 You can't tell me that they did not reach out to these two individuals.

00:16:24.600 It makes entirely no sense.

00:16:26.640 There's another piece of this that is getting quite interesting, and I will say that this next piece that I have is in large part thanks to a multitude of leaks that are coming out of Turning Point USA.

00:16:38.020 Now, right away, you might ask, why is that happening?

00:16:40.500 Well, I can tell you in my experience, political organizations sometimes don't recognize that they are not like corporate organizations.

00:16:50.460 And what I mean by that is not whether or not the organization is a corporate, but rather sometimes they get the wrong idea that they can sort of do things that people can do on Wall Street, right?

00:17:00.380 Like if a CEO steps down from Wendy's, you can just replace that person as another CEO and nobody cares.

00:17:07.860 If you're buying chicken nuggets from Wendy's, you don't really care who the CEO is.

00:17:11.380 It doesn't really work like that with political organizations, right?

00:17:13.980 Political, when it comes to politics, people get behind someone because they believe in that individual's ideas, right?

00:17:20.560 You can't just play a swapsie all the time or think it's just going to go on, and you're still going to have that same energy behind you.

00:17:26.980 And so obviously this is a terrible situation, and Charlie is gone.

00:17:31.360 But with people not getting answers, right, with people that are working at Turning Point USA not feeling like, okay, are we as an organization fighting?

00:17:41.600 Are we going to speak about the things that Charlie cared about?

00:17:44.760 Are we going to call out the things that we feel are wrong here?

00:17:46.920 However, they're not wanting to get behind that.

00:17:50.240 They feel that the organization is now being motivated just by money and that this company's priorities have somewhat shifted and that really how people on the outside that are looking in are going, what's going on here?

00:18:03.500 Why are people not more rattled by the lies that are being told?

00:18:06.940 Actually, I think if Charlie were here, he'd be talking about the weird things that were being told about this story, right?

00:18:13.700 Ironically.

00:18:14.140 And so many people have reached out and they spoke about the finances at Turning Point USA.

00:18:20.260 And, you know, I'm not exactly a forensic accountant, but I know that other people, other journalists got really interested in this angle who were similarly receiving leaks and have pushed this off to forensic accountants.

00:18:30.520 And some of the stuff is getting very interesting.

00:18:33.020 But I did want to show you guys this because I think this proves what we have been hearing.

00:18:37.800 It's at least a starting point, an insider who said that they were there and present when Charlie had expressed some concerns about where the money was going.

00:18:50.700 And leading up to that moment, Charlie had by and large completely removed himself outside of the organ of fundraising, which is to say that it wasn't something that he necessarily had his finger on.

00:19:02.620 And, of course, he always would show up for top donor meetings.

00:19:05.680 He is the face of the company.

00:19:07.100 But in terms of the accounting specifics, he trusted his lieutenants.

00:19:10.880 Of course, something that big, you know, you're clearing $100 million a year.

00:19:14.340 You got to have lieutenants and you have to trust those lieutenants.

00:19:16.820 And, of course, sometimes those leaders don't like one another.

00:19:22.300 That's all normal.

00:19:24.060 But then there arrived a moment when Charlie felt that the money was disappearing.

00:19:30.540 Allegedly.

00:19:31.080 I'll say allegedly here, but I think we have some proof that shows that.

00:19:33.620 And the excuses that he was being given for the money disappearing wasn't adding up for Charlie.

00:19:41.100 Said another way, the math wasn't mathing, okay?

00:19:43.460 He felt that, again, according to sources, that the company was burning through cash too quickly.

00:19:50.220 And Charlie set about finding out why and how this was happening.

00:19:57.060 So on September 2nd, which is, of course, just one week before he lost his life, Charlie surprised the company by announcing that he was putting together a Doge department.

00:20:09.500 Yes, a Department of Government Efficiency, like Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, had set out to do.

00:20:15.540 Trump won.

00:20:16.160 They got behind him, right?

00:20:17.720 They said, hey, there's a lot of pork. 0.64

00:20:20.180 We don't know where this money is going.

00:20:21.920 People are just accepting checks.

00:20:23.440 Again, this is the whole purpose of the Department of Doge.

00:20:26.760 You put us in there and we're going to figure out how all these bureaucrats are just wasting tax dollars. 1.00

00:20:32.120 Really kind of a nice way of saying we're going to conduct an audit of the government, right?

00:20:38.800 That's the only way to look at what Doge was.

00:20:40.740 It's an audit and then you cut the fat and you see where the money is actually going.

00:20:45.160 Don't listen to me, by the way, because we can read Charlie in his own words.

00:20:49.960 This was an internal memo that went out, signed off by Charlie on September 2nd.

00:20:58.660 I'm going to skip to the relevant portions.

00:21:00.880 He's first and foremost announcing that Dear Team America, effective immediately.

00:21:05.700 Again, September 2nd.

00:21:07.240 Justin Strife is taking on a new elevated role with Turning Point USA as its COO.

00:21:11.940 Since joining TPUSA in 2020, Justin has led Turning Point's fundraising division and in more recent years has been involved in some organizational operations.

00:21:20.300 Filling the COO role in many ways, but now officially taking on the title and expanded responsibilities.

00:21:25.060 Now we're going to jump to that last big paragraph.

00:21:28.600 What's in this role, I have empowered Justin, among other priorities, to engage in an organizational-wide Doge effort.

00:21:36.420 Justin will be assembling a small team to assist in this effort, which is focused on Turning Point USA, one, becoming more efficient, two, becoming more cost-effective, three, unifying organizational success around company-wide metrics

00:21:49.180 and goals, and four, reshaping company culture.

00:21:51.820 I expect many positive changes to come from this forthcoming initiative and Justin's expanded role.

00:21:58.940 Please join me in congratulating Justin on this new role with the organization.

00:22:02.820 So I felt that with all of the rumors that I'm hearing, to see that Charlie was essentially putting together a small team to begin looking at money and ways to be more, quote-unquote, efficient,

00:22:14.720 it's looking like that's relevant, that all of these tips that we are receiving from insiders is accurate.

00:22:23.120 And what we're understanding is that there are a lot of contractors and people, essentially, who were taking money both ways, who were bringing in money and cutting deals, said simply the money was looking funny, okay?

00:22:40.260 And Charlie set out to determine why, which means that others should maybe set out to determine why.

00:22:45.400 Is this department still going?

00:22:47.260 And like I said to you, others are setting out to determine why.

00:22:50.720 There are journalists, forensic accountants that have been hired, and what I have been shown, the preliminary findings are quite astonishing, okay?

00:23:01.120 And I will say this.

00:23:02.840 My sources at Turning Point said something that I found to be crucial, interesting.

00:23:09.200 They said that Charlie wasn't just concerned about where the money was going, but also where the money was coming from.

00:23:19.340 Where the money was coming from.

00:23:22.260 What are we to make of that, okay?

00:23:24.960 What are we to make of that?

00:23:26.640 What does that mean?

00:23:27.560 Either speaking about companies that were kind of flooding the zone with money so that they could have more influence, but they had questions about those companies.

00:23:34.120 It sounds like there were people who were effectively double agents, making money on commissions on both sides of a contract.

00:23:43.340 I've seen a lot, and I'm going to allow the reports to come out next week that people who have really seized upon that and are looking at things.

00:23:53.060 And I think a lot's going to be revealed, like I said, as it should.

00:23:56.060 We want to know everything.

00:23:56.960 We want to know absolutely everything.

00:23:58.940 I'm going to tell you guys a bit more, as well as responding to a lot of what I think are just unfair criticisms of people that are attacking Erica.

00:24:09.000 And I'll tell you why I feel that those criticisms are unfair.

00:24:12.660 But first, I want to throw it to Riverbend Ranch.

00:24:15.080 I told you I met the CEO of this company when I was with Charlie years ago, and we went out to meet him.

00:24:21.520 Wonderful person.

00:24:22.380 Everyone wanted to do something to try and heal and remember Charlie.

00:24:25.300 Charlie and my friends at Riverbend Ranch put together the following tribute to honor him.

00:24:30.260 We pay tribute to Charlie Kirk, and we celebrate the tremendous good he did in his life.

00:24:36.220 Charlie courageously advocated for the sacred principles of freedom, constructive discourse, truth, family values, and common sense.

00:24:43.560 He taught with humor and wisdom and backed up his beliefs with data and facts.

00:24:47.720 He set a powerful example of reaching out and talking to those who disagreed with him.

00:24:52.000 We mourn his passing, but what he taught us continues to resonate with even more power.

00:24:57.740 A message from all of us at Riverbend Ranch.

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00:26:02.260 Okay, I want to at first address, because I've received so many emails.

00:26:06.520 Candice, have you seen this?

00:26:07.340 Have you watched this?

00:26:09.100 And it is RangeDayBro on YouTube, and the video is just absolutely viral.

00:26:15.720 It's got six million views.

00:26:16.600 And by the way, I am so happy that it's got six million views.

00:26:20.020 Everybody investigating this is exactly what we need, and nobody is going to be perfect.

00:26:23.640 We're going to get things wrong, and we can only work with the information that's been given to us, and for whatever reason, it's very limited.

00:26:30.140 So anything that I'm debunking here is just because I want to help focus his investigation.

00:26:34.480 But so he presents an argument that you can see a muzzle flash, and there is one element of his video where he shows what he believes to be blood splatter as an entry point on Charlie's neck.

00:26:52.000 So we can watch that.

00:26:53.140 Take a listen.

00:26:53.680 And in that video, you can see the same, what appears to be the bullet coming down, and it does line up with the actual gunshot itself.

00:27:03.500 So this video was created by a friend of mine who is a Marine.

00:27:10.320 You'll see him here at the end.

00:27:11.340 This is the angle he is showing the shot coming from, showing where Charlie was sitting, and the angle of the shot, which will correspond with this video here, which unfortunately we will blur out Charlie's face.

00:27:24.300 But we will show what is necessary to prove that this was an entry and exit wound.

00:27:28.740 So you'll see him circle the highlighted area right there, and you'll see the exit wound corresponding after, split second after, as it would from an entry and exit wound.

00:27:39.780 So in this footage, you can clearly see that Charlie is shot from his back right, and there is blood splatter coming out of the entry wound.

00:27:52.180 Okay.

00:27:52.900 So what I can immediately help with, because I have so much footage and clearer footage of that, is that's actually not blood splatter, and I was very surprised by this.

00:28:01.400 It's his necklace.

00:28:02.760 That is his necklace.

00:28:03.740 And it was one of the things that struck me as odd, and I saw the back footage, and then I have clearer footage from the front.

00:28:08.900 And the necklace goes first, and if I'm looking at it, it looks like it breaks from here, and then it comes up, and it whips up.

00:28:17.420 That is Charlie's necklace chain.

00:28:20.080 So I hope that that sort of helps focus that, and I don't know if that helps change your opinion at all, but I wanted to add that.

00:28:26.100 The second thing is I wanted to show you a photo, a different angle of where that flash that he is looking at came from,

00:28:33.300 because the thing that I don't understand is that particular window doesn't open.

00:28:38.460 So if you're saying it's inside, and I might be wrong, so you can see, and I hope I have this right.

00:28:43.580 If I'm wrong, please let me know, and I will adjust it immediately.

00:28:46.020 But that window is from that zone, which they call, like, the flag hall, which is where that person actually shot the footage.

00:28:54.880 He's on the other side of it, where we saw the person running across the roof.

00:28:58.900 That's basically above the underpass.

00:29:01.060 And so you can see from this angle that those windows, I don't know if we have a more front-forward picture of that, Skylar.

00:29:08.540 If we don't, it's okay.

00:29:09.340 But from everything that I could see, those windows don't open.

00:29:12.400 And so if it's coming from inside, if that's where you're saying, and I had that location correctly, again, I'm happy to update this if I'm wrong, then we should see broken glass.

00:29:21.780 So let me know if I'm right about that.

00:29:23.440 I will say there was another piece, and this part I have not been able to debunk, but I am sending someone there to get me similar footage, which is when you discuss a suspicious-looking bush.

00:29:35.840 So I will let you, I will let Range Day Bro present that theory.

00:29:40.480 Take a listen.

00:29:41.080 I want to take a look at this photo next.

00:29:43.920 This guy is talking about this bush up here in the top left of this photo, and he zooms in on it, and he's stating that it does look suspicious.

00:29:51.100 It does look suspicious.

00:29:52.240 It looks like there is a person right here, and it looks like there is a rifle right here that that person is holding.

00:29:59.100 A hand here, a support hand, sort of.

00:30:02.080 Very blurry image, but you can clearly make out that this is not just a bush.

00:30:05.860 This is a human skin tone right here, and this correlates with human head and hair and a rifle in the exact kind of crucifix shape of an AR-15 with an optic on it mounted up.

00:30:17.580 So what I can say, and I'm looking at my minute-to-minute text messages because I sent somebody there on the ground to get me pictures of that bush today, and I agree with you.

00:30:26.580 In the photos that I'm looking at today, the bush, you can kind of see through it, and in the image that you have, granted, it is grainy.

00:30:36.760 It doesn't seem like you can see through it, so I am interested in that, and I am prodding that narrative, and I will let you know what I come up with.

00:30:44.500 Anyways, again, the point of me doing that was just to help further direct your theories.

00:30:49.380 Everybody is coming out with ideas, and I think that's great.

00:30:52.540 Until the feds answer our questions, until we see more footage of what took place that day, all of us need to stay on top of it because we all sense that something is very wrong.

00:31:01.220 We are not getting the truth.

00:31:02.980 One more thing that I'd like to share with you guys.

00:31:05.460 As you will recall, yesterday during the comments section, we got a tip, a young woman, that said that that doorbell footage was intentionally presented to the public, only partially, and that the reality is that there was more footage, which showed the person that they alleged is Tyler Robinson walking with a woman who they don't know who that is, and that he changes clothes.

00:31:31.580 So I'm not sure if there was more footage on the side of the house.

00:31:35.140 There's another angle, but there is allegedly footage of Tyler changing clothes, and he is with an unidentified woman, a woman.

00:31:42.080 What I will say is I have established connection with that individual, and it's a solid lead, and it's only going to get more interesting in terms of who is involved in that cover-up locally, like a Utah person involved in that cover-up, which is another piece of this puzzle that I find to be fascinating.

00:31:59.820 I will have more for you guys next week as we continue this.

00:32:03.100 I always want to make sure that we give people an opportunity to respond and to answer what it is that we are putting out there and making sure that our reports are accurate, and I will have more for you on that next week.

00:32:13.720 I do also want to address people who are inundating me speaking about Erica Kirk, and I think the reason why this was catalyzed was because a fundraising email and text messages went out, and people found it to be distasteful and fundraising off of his death.

00:32:32.160 Okay, first and foremost, the reason why I said, and I meant it genuinely, was to pray for Erica a couple of days ago, and I said she is stepping into a role as CEO and the chairman of a company, a company that got bigger than Charlie by everything that I am understanding, and just having been there, I saw it happening, and a company that she's going to have to learn in four seconds how this whole thing is working.

00:32:55.640 It is a machine, okay?

00:32:58.160 Those emails that you saw or checking, that was not written by Erica Kirk.

00:33:02.020 That will be an entire department, and these are emails when you fundraise.

00:33:06.140 I've had fundraising emails go out with my face and my name on them.

00:33:09.900 They are not authored by Erica Kirk, and I want you guys to know that, right?

00:33:13.860 I just think it's like, I don't know, it just feels so unfair to me to assign this, the amount of pressure that is on her right now.

00:33:21.940 No, she has not come out and said anything to me that makes her suspicious, because I understand how that organ works, and I understand how people, when they are motivated by money, how they don't even think about these things.

00:33:33.400 It can be so gross.

00:33:34.500 I mean, I have really gotten into arguments with people when I felt that they were using my face and representing things, and I was getting pushback from the public, and I'm like, I would have never done this.

00:33:43.640 I would have never made that decision, and yet I'm going to be the person that gets all the flack for the decision that you made.

00:33:48.900 I've had those arguments, and so when I see this go out, irrespective of how you feel, you should know that those decisions are not made by Erica.

00:33:56.860 That's what it means to step into a company of that size and that scale, okay?

00:34:02.080 Their focus is going to be something different, and she has had, I think, a tremendous amount of grace in the speech that she gave, which I felt was very inspiring,

00:34:11.640 and we should similarly have grace, give her time to get her, first and foremost, the adjustment in her life.

00:34:19.740 She's a mother, first and foremost, right?

00:34:21.920 This is what she was doing.

00:34:22.960 She was a mom, and Charlie was on the road, and these were Charlie's concerns.

00:34:28.000 You know, men carry the weight of the world on their shoulders, and they were following that.

00:34:31.860 This was a faithful couple.

00:34:33.000 This is a woman who consulted a priest and prayed when she felt that somebody had put a hex on her husband,

00:34:40.980 and I just think everyone is being a little unfair by trying to assign so much ill will towards someone who hasn't done anything to warrant that,

00:34:53.440 and I would have been the first person.

00:34:55.840 If I felt that anything was there, I would have said something truly in every capacity,

00:35:00.640 and, of course, I'm not in their marriage, but I know that Charlie was very happy with Erica,

00:35:05.000 and I know that Erica was a reason.

00:35:08.500 She was, you know, pushing Charlie, as women do, to really think through his ideas 1.00

00:35:12.760 and think through what it was that he believed in one way or the other,

00:35:15.820 and by and large, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I had this relationship that I had with Charlie

00:35:20.760 that I had with Erica, of course, because neither he or I were married when we were hitting the road together,

00:35:25.480 but she made him happy, and I just want you guys to know that,

00:35:29.020 and so when you're putting stuff out there, just imagine that you're in her shoes.

00:35:32.700 Imagine the size and the scale of that company,

00:35:34.620 and imagine that on top of everything, you've got people that are digging into every layer of your life

00:35:38.820 and not necessarily getting everything right.

00:35:40.860 I can't stop reading conspiracies about me and my husband.

00:35:43.620 I've read that my husband is Jewish.

00:35:45.840 I've read that my husband is a Freemason.

00:35:48.000 I read that our marriage is fake and staged,

00:35:51.780 and I've read that I'm funded by Russia.

00:35:53.740 I'm funded by Qatar.

00:35:54.860 I'm funded by Andrew Tate because Andrew Tate is also from the UK,

00:35:57.860 and my husband knew him before he met me, which means absolutely nothing.

00:36:02.760 I mean, it never stops, and to be thrown into fame, I think, is very difficult

00:36:10.200 when you're not pursuing it yourself, and to be thrown in in such a horrific way,

00:36:13.400 it just can't be fun, so I'm just reminding us all to just have a little bit of grace is all.

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00:37:36.600 All right, you guys, what is on your mind?

00:37:39.860 Let me get to your comments, what you guys are thinking about.

00:37:43.100 So Kelly Martini writes, Candice, you are the epitome of truth.

00:37:47.200 You know, the epitome of truth would be Jesus Christ,

00:37:49.880 but I will say that following truth is, it's an ugly business.

00:37:53.460 It really is, and the vultures have absolutely come out.

00:37:57.120 I mean, it is just such a crazy thing to make me guilty of investigating Charlie's murder.

00:38:01.600 Like, it doesn't make any sense.

00:38:02.440 Why would you investigate this?

00:38:03.600 Because everybody's lying, and we're not going to allow it.

00:38:06.180 How about that?

00:38:07.140 How about we're just not going to allow everyone to lie?

00:38:11.420 Curated Journey writes, thank you, Candice, for the work that you have put into telling us the truth.

00:38:15.160 How do you deal with all these people that are trying to lie about the friendship that you have with Charlie

00:38:18.880 and do everything that they can to turn the people against you through the media?

00:38:22.900 God bless you.

00:38:23.640 I just know that it's a ticking time bomb, right, before they're all exposed.

00:38:30.300 And I think a financial audit is interesting.

00:38:32.640 I think there were a lot of pastors that were around Charlie who weren't exactly honest about whether or not they were financially motivated to say some certain things.

00:38:43.760 You know, a lot of these organizations that are like Christian and Jews, organizations, funds that are coming together have been interesting.

00:38:52.500 You know, Operation Mocking Pastor is a real thing.

00:38:55.460 And I know that at the end of the day, my hands are clean.

00:38:58.900 My hands are absolutely clean and so I don't care about people that are lying because a lie always has to sprint, right?

00:39:05.740 A lie always has to sprint and it's because it's fearful.

00:39:09.540 It's very afraid because people only have to hear the truth once to know that it is the truth.

00:39:15.400 They have to hear the lie over and over.

00:39:17.840 It begs repetition a lie, but the truth doesn't care.

00:39:21.560 And I am on the side of truth.

00:39:23.200 And so there's that.

00:39:25.860 And also because my relationship with Charlie was real, actually.

00:39:28.700 A shout out to Taylor Lorenz.

00:39:30.740 I obviously didn't watch what everybody else was saying about Charlie after his assassination because I was absolutely wrecked.

00:39:37.420 It was a very tough week for me.

00:39:40.200 And I felt I didn't even feel motivated to get out of bed.

00:39:42.940 And but Taylor Lorenz said, she's like, why do I feel like Candace is the only one?

00:39:46.500 She said this on X.

00:39:47.420 I don't know if we have that tweet.

00:39:48.440 I didn't ask you to pull it.

00:39:49.280 But like she did say, why do I feel like Candace is the only one that actually cared about Charlie?

00:39:53.860 And she's the only tribute because I mean, like that's the reality of politics.

00:39:56.820 It's gross. 0.99

00:39:57.440 It's disgusting. 0.98

00:39:58.900 It's a disgusting business. 0.98

00:40:00.340 And Charlie had a better stomach for it than I did. 0.95

00:40:02.840 That's the reality.

00:40:03.900 Yeah.

00:40:04.880 She wrote Taylor Lorenz.

00:40:06.560 It's wild that Candace is the only right wing figure that I've seen posting in a way where she seems genuinely devastated to lose Charlie as a friend.

00:40:13.380 And it's because you can't fake it.

00:40:15.740 And a lot of people are faking it right now.

00:40:17.320 And it's difficult for me to process, which I have not, that he is actually gone.

00:40:22.760 Like that doesn't feel real to me yet.

00:40:24.640 But I know I will get to that stage eventually.

00:40:27.060 James Moran writes, greetings from across the pond in Ireland, Candace, and keep up the great work.

00:40:32.020 God bless.

00:40:32.800 Thank you, James.

00:40:34.040 Renee writes, have you covered the Amazon listing from September 9th for a book about Charlie with all the details, which were pretty accurate, of what happened on the 10th?

00:40:42.220 I have a picture of a screenshot supposedly verified.

00:40:44.340 Yeah, I think Amazon came out and said that it was a technical error because I guess you can adjust the date.

00:40:51.740 To be honest with you, I didn't look into it because there's a thousand ways that you could run with this.

00:40:56.800 And I wanted to keep the pressure on the feds.

00:40:59.120 And I wanted to keep the pressure on getting as much information as I could about what took place on that day.

00:41:04.480 But I know there are people that have made a lot of videos about that.

00:41:08.700 And so maybe I'll watch one of those.

00:41:11.100 Bree Barrera writes, so glad that I caught you live today.

00:41:13.520 I work nights, so I never wake up early enough.

00:41:15.240 But I wanted to let you know that I found you two years ago through Charlie Kirk and you changed my life.

00:41:18.840 Keep doing what you're doing.

00:41:19.840 I love you.

00:41:21.020 Reality is Charlie changed my life.

00:41:22.760 He really did.

00:41:23.420 And I can't think about being in politics without Charlie.

00:41:27.320 So that's why it's been, it feels like I have to accept that a piece of my life died, like years of my life died with him a little bit.

00:41:35.740 And he was like one of the only like two people in politics that I can even stand because he was a real straight shooter with me.

00:41:43.300 Thistle writes, I wanted to ask your thoughts about the fact that quote unquote notes on bullets have been everywhere while our representatives are signing the bombs they drop on innocent people.

00:41:51.580 Just a thought.

00:41:52.100 Thank you.

00:41:52.500 Yeah, it does seem to bear their signature, like Nikki Haley signing bombs. 0.99

00:41:57.940 People going over there, sign bombs that are going to be dropped and killing children.

00:42:01.080 And so, yeah, it's been a weird new thing that everyone's doing, which is strange and feels very forced and fake to me.

00:42:07.960 Totally agree.

00:42:09.200 Dave Matthews writes, what would you do if there was another video footage of someone else on the rooftop?

00:42:14.340 Would you take it?

00:42:15.100 Thank you for all that you do, praying for your family, praying for the Kirk's.

00:42:18.520 What do you mean would I take it?

00:42:19.660 I want the truth.

00:42:20.260 If you're suggesting that you have the footage, please send it.

00:42:27.840 You can send it to us, tips at CandiceOwens.com.

00:42:30.880 You're inundated, guys.

00:42:32.260 So please, if you can, just if you're sending us a tip, hopefully it's related to this investigation.

00:42:38.560 Tips, like, have you seen this video or YouTube, whatever.

00:42:43.720 That's best reserved for, like, commenting on our Instagram and our social media pages.

00:42:47.820 We'll see it there.

00:42:48.860 The tips line we want to keep for actual tips related to this investigation.

00:42:52.380 Not because I'm not so grateful that you guys are writing all these emails.

00:42:54.880 But our tips inbox is getting so full that it's taking us a lot of time to go through it.

00:42:59.540 So, yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to filter so we know where to look for, hey, have you seen this video?

00:43:04.820 Versus, hey, we have an actual tip related to this investigation.

00:43:08.240 Ben Auten writes, your interview with Charlie Kirk on PragerU. 0.82

00:43:11.300 Shut up on my YouTube algorithm.

00:43:12.800 It's great to watch it again. 0.84

00:43:13.840 And also, does anyone else find etchings on the bullet casings conveniently found at all of the occurrences of violent crimes lately quite suspicious?

00:43:20.580 Indeed, Ben.

00:43:22.480 Indeed.

00:43:23.160 You and Thistle both agree that that is very suspect.

00:43:26.340 Like I said, it's starting to feel like a government signature a little bit, right?

00:43:30.820 Miranda New writes, the anger and hate towards Erica is insane. 0.52

00:43:33.480 She's a beacon of light in this dark world.

00:43:34.960 As are you, Candace.

00:43:36.040 I assume Erica also thinks all of this is weird, too.

00:43:39.040 Or she would have stopped you by now.

00:43:40.320 All love.

00:43:40.780 That is correct.

00:43:41.520 Erica has my number.

00:43:42.240 Erica actually recently started following me. 0.74

00:43:44.980 It was another thing that they were like, Candace doesn't even follow Charlie. 0.99

00:43:48.340 Yeah, because I unfollowed everyone.

00:43:50.960 But I announced my book, Blackout.

00:43:52.780 I wanted to make it like a cool thing.

00:43:54.160 I unfollowed everybody.

00:43:55.400 And then I didn't start refollowing people on all my social media pages.

00:43:58.540 You will realize I'm like the only person you know that follows very few people.

00:44:01.980 Because I realized that I was engaging in social media in a way where I was hearing everybody else's ideas as opposed to sharing my own.

00:44:08.620 And so it's just like the ridiculous angles that they've taken.

00:44:11.640 But anyways, yeah, I have always been very clear.

00:44:14.100 And that's another thing.

00:44:14.640 If Erica was like, don't say anything.

00:44:16.420 Or if she lied about anything publicly.

00:44:18.020 If she was like, no, Charlie wasn't attending mass.

00:44:22.180 I would be like, okay, this is a little weird.

00:44:24.060 Why is she massaging? 1.00

00:44:24.880 But she's not doing that. 0.99

00:44:25.980 So I just feel that it's unfair.

00:44:28.340 And people that are not used to constantly being on stage and presenting like Charlie was.

00:44:34.200 He had the it factor.

00:44:35.900 You know, Charlie get up there and the room was alive.

00:44:39.580 And now we're judging the people that he loved in his life who don't do that for a living.

00:44:45.260 And I just really just feels to me like it's unfair.

00:44:47.860 So I wanted to express that and just say that.

00:44:52.880 And yeah, anyways, next week we will not be on air tomorrow because last week was a rare Friday.

00:44:58.360 And I like to have my Fridays off.

00:45:00.140 But next week we will continue in earnest.

00:45:02.280 Again, if you have something pertaining to the investigation, you were there, you were a police officer,

00:45:06.520 you're a federal, you're in the government, you're fed,

00:45:09.420 and you are watching this and you know that what I'm saying is true,

00:45:12.600 please email us tips at CandiceOwens.com.

00:45:16.320 If you guys would like to support us in any capacity, always head to CandiceOwens.com,

00:45:19.700 join the book club, learn about vaccines if you're a parent,

00:45:22.420 or buy yourself some CIA merch so that we can be arrested by Laura Loomer.

00:45:30.100 And her tweets be reported by Laura Loomer.

00:45:33.960 Beyond that, you guys, thank you so much.

00:45:35.980 Thank you guys for just being supportive in general.

00:45:38.060 You really have helped me get through the past two weeks and we will not allow

00:45:41.480 the real legacy of Charlie Kirk to die, nor will we allow them to rewrite history,

00:45:47.960 nor will we allow them to rewrite present, which is this investigation.

00:45:52.120 We'll see you next week.

Candace Owens - September 25, 2025

Charlie Kirk Expressed Concerns About TPUSA Finances ｜ Candace Ep 243

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