Candace Owens - Charlie’s Final Ride To The Hospital Isn’t Adding Up. Neither Is Daily Wire’s Accounting. ｜ Ep 355

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys. Happy Wednesday to everyone except, except Brian Harpole. What an absolute nutcase. Am I right? I mean, you guys flooded us with comments yesterday. Doctors and nurses and ER techs. You guys were just on fire about the absurd story he presented wherein he led the OR team. He took a gurney, pushed Charlie into a vacant room, jumped on top of him, apparently found some scissors and cut his T-shirt off from his body.

00:00:30.000 I mean, what in the fantasy series are we even talking about?

00:00:33.880 Not even in the fictional world of Grey's Anatomy because they want it to be realistic. 1.00

00:00:40.120 I think Brian is a liar, liar, pants on fire. 0.98

00:00:43.980 And feel free, Brian, to add that statement to your lawsuit against me. 0.99

00:00:47.440 The story that you described did not happen in an emergency room.

00:00:52.420 Now, I want to especially appreciate those of you who pointed out the additional absurdity

00:00:57.540 of him claiming that he jumped on top of Charlie to cut the shirt off because why, sir? Are you

00:01:05.220 three feet tall, Brian Harpole? Why would any adult-sized man ever need to physically jump

00:01:11.340 atop a gurney to cut a t-shirt off? Like, are you miniature, Brian Harpole? Are you not taller

00:01:17.300 than a bed? Do you think that that's what surgeons are doing? Paramedics jumping on top of people to

00:01:24.140 cut a shirt off. I mean, it is an astoundingly dumb story the more you think about it. So the 0.98

00:01:28.560 question is, why did he tell it? That's what we're going to explore today. Because methinks it might

00:01:34.140 be because it offers another clue as to what actually went down on the way to the hospital,

00:01:39.540 you know, since they have conflicting stories, him and Frank Turek. We're going to talk about that.

00:01:43.840 And speaking of miniature, Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire is still crashing and burning financially.

00:01:49.380 Semaphore released an article, and it looks like since they can't find a private equity firm, 0.89

00:01:53.860 dumb enough to invest in them, they are going to attempt a Hail Mary pass. They think you guys, 0.96

00:01:59.120 people back at home, are dumb enough to invest in them by buying shares. They're going to go for an 0.99

00:02:03.920 IPO, putting themselves on the stock market. Would you purchase stock in the Daily Wire?

00:02:10.160 Are you an idiot like Brian Harpole? Let's find out. Welcome back to Candace. 1.00

00:02:23.860 boy oh boy do i love you sleuths back home okay i have to tell you crowdsourcing to solve

00:02:35.380 a globally consequential murder this might be the first time it's ever been done in the history of

00:02:41.260 the world but it should not be the last time check out this email that we got yesterday in

00:02:45.620 response to our show that we presented uh what another another sleuth that actually happened to

00:02:51.220 noticed yesterday, that mysterious white on the black tempered glass shards that were shattered

00:02:57.140 in the back of the SUV. That sleuth from yesterday pointed to the plausibility that Charlie's road

00:03:03.280 mic was rigged to explode. They said, look, there's white on some of these pieces, Candice.

00:03:06.960 Well, then we had someone send us an email and they started putting the pieces together. One

00:03:12.220 crucial piece. They wrote, dear Candice and team, I'm watching your show from earlier today. I'm in

00:03:17.000 France, and I had to stop watching when you showed the shards after reading that email. I quickly

00:03:21.700 spotted the USB logo on the shard at the 15 minute 30 second mark, the one to the left of the screen

00:03:29.340 closer to you, and I wanted to check it. Please see below. All I did was screenshot your video

00:03:34.620 and rotate the bit with the shard to line it up with a promo shot of the road mic. I think there's

00:03:40.060 no room for doubt here. It's clearly the USB logo and or icon. Game over. Feel free to get in touch

00:03:47.540 if you have any questions. I'm going to show you. This is what they attached to like from our show

00:03:52.860 the picture. And they then obviously flipped it and showed that that was the USB. I think this

00:04:01.180 is incredible. Legendary inspector gadget finding. We did it ourselves. We can blow up that image

00:04:07.720 and rotate it as well and put it side by side with the Rode mics UBS icon.

00:04:16.700 So that really is something I do feel like this is what we have to do.

00:04:21.280 We have to get really molecular to close this case.

00:04:24.340 I do believe firmly that it was Charlie's Rode mic bits that were shattered all over the car floor.

00:04:30.720 And by the way, you guys were so in the weeds on this

00:04:33.120 that I even had opticians emailing me to inform me that it was not possible for it to be sunglasses

00:04:39.360 on the ground. The emails were like, hey, I don't know if you know this about sunglasses,

00:04:42.780 but they're actually not allowed to shatter like that. There's a whole process in how they're

00:04:46.620 created because obviously they are covering people's eyes. So they cannot create them

00:04:51.420 in a circumstance in which they might shatter and glass would get all over people's eyes,

00:04:56.080 which is why generally speaking, you know, if you break your sunglasses, if you break your glasses,

00:05:01.060 they maybe crack, or the lens just pops out of the frame. And it was amazing. I'm learning so

00:05:09.520 much. And she sent me step-by-step of the qualifications, what they have to pass,

00:05:14.380 the inspections they have to pass. Anyway, this brings us to Brian's Pinocchio movie,

00:05:20.060 the Emergency Room Edition. Because why exactly did Brian Harpole spin such an extraordinary

00:05:26.180 tale, a tale that I can tell you has upset deeply people who work in emergency rooms

00:05:31.980 all around the world.

00:05:32.760 A frankly implausible story because outside of blatant corruption, incompetence, a flagrant

00:05:38.980 violation of every known law and hospital policy on the books, we can assume Brian Harpole

00:05:45.440 is telling a porcupine, right?

00:05:48.200 So let's at first relisten to his extraordinary story because it is important and it requires

00:05:54.040 our imagination.

00:05:55.400 Take a listen.

00:05:57.100 We get to the hospital.

00:06:00.120 Actually, we make it to the hospital through the traffic.

00:06:03.460 We've got full wound pack in.

00:06:05.220 We get out and we carry in to the door.

00:06:08.840 Once we make it into the door where we see a gurney on the left-hand side, we put him on a gurney and then I wheel him into a room.

00:06:17.060 I start giving the patient information to the staff there.

00:06:26.340 I ended up getting on top of him and cutting the shirt that he had on off, that white Freedom shirt.

00:06:32.860 And so I cut it off so they could get to him so that I didn't articulate this to them,

00:06:41.420 but I wanted to get that stuff off so they could put a defibrillator on him.

00:06:46.480 And so, and then started talking about pushing drugs.

00:06:51.280 and so I was back and forth

00:06:53.600 with them on drugs

00:06:55.640 and defibrillator

00:06:56.540 and so then

00:06:59.520 you know once I get that

00:07:01.500 shirt cut off and moved out of the way

00:07:03.660 you know there's enough

00:07:04.900 medical professionals in there

00:07:07.300 and so I just want to get out of their way

00:07:09.200 and so

00:07:10.640 got out of their way and walked out of the room

00:07:13.000 and stood outside the room

00:07:15.540 and held guard on the outside door

00:07:17.680 of the room so nobody else could come in there

00:07:21.280 yeah, I'm going to start doing that when I go to the ER. I'm not going to wait in line. I'm

00:07:24.420 going to grab gurneys. I'm going to start telling them what kind of drugs to give them

00:07:27.660 and guard the doors. So we have to ask ourselves, what is Brian Harpole trying to answer for here

00:07:34.020 with his story, right? He's actually admitting something. Common sense, every fib that is told

00:07:39.500 is only told because you're trying to cover up a truth or explain a truth that might not make

00:07:44.920 sense, right? So what Brian is, I think, rather truthfully admitting here is that he was the

00:07:51.460 person responsible for the removal of Charlie Kirk's shirt, right? No other reason to

00:07:57.060 insert yourself into that narrative unless that piece is true, which as we explore our

00:08:02.240 rigged microphone theory is an admission that Brian Harpole would be the person responsible

00:08:08.580 for removing the biggest piece of explosive residue evidence, Charlie's shirt. He is

00:08:13.940 attempting to make that sound reasonable to the public. I was worried about the defibrillator

00:08:18.860 and that's the reason why I cut Charlie's shirt in case you find that that shirt had been cut

00:08:23.840 using scissors later down the line. Now, since I do not accept that a random dude took command

00:08:29.640 over a hospital ER room and was grabbing gurneys and was allowed to freely jump across on top of,

00:08:37.040 pardon me, a bleeding victim with a pair of scissors in hand? Is this the person who harmed

00:08:44.480 him? I don't accept any of this. I have to then logically consider that Brian removed Charlie's

00:08:52.120 shirt somewhere else, right? And the only other option would be in the car on the way over to

00:08:57.320 the hospital. Now, beyond anything else, the story that Brian tells us about what did happen in the

00:09:02.780 car does not match the evidence of what we see in the photos that we were never supposed to have

00:09:09.060 in our possession. These photos were never supposed to see the light of day. So let's review

00:09:13.980 Brian's claims so that you understand them, okay? First, we submit to you all a graphic of how they

00:09:20.700 all piled into the car, okay? So we are in a GMC SUV. You've got Dan Flood there in the passenger

00:09:27.600 seat. You got Justin Davis driving. We have Brian Harpole, Rick Cutler in that middle row. Charlie

00:09:36.100 is going to be across them. You note his legs are hanging out of the door. We're going to discuss

00:09:41.760 that in a second. And in the backseat to himself is Frank Tarek. So here are the facts based off

00:09:48.200 of Brian Harpole's testimony. You know, they have different testimonies, but Brian Harpole's

00:09:52.960 testimony regarding that short journey to the hospital. The hospital was about eight minutes

00:09:57.940 away. If you look that up just on Google Maps, that's if you're doing the speed limit. But they

00:10:03.620 were not doing the speed limit. Brian makes it clear that they were going 60, 80, 100 miles per

00:10:09.580 an hour. That's what he says. We're going 60, 80, 100 miles per an hour weaving through the streets.

00:10:15.900 So what we can reasonably deduce from that statement is that there was no traffic on the

00:10:20.160 way to the hospital. You can't hit those speeds if there is traffic. And so they probably arrived

00:10:24.840 faster than the eight-minute Google Maps estimation. We can safely assume that means

00:10:33.480 that they shaved off a couple of minutes, approximately, let's say, a six-minute ride.

00:10:38.940 I think that's fair, right? It's also important to note that Brian claims that they did not close

00:10:45.700 the car door which was behind him as he was working on Charlie where he was sitting right

00:10:50.900 he says it was because Charlie's legs were too long and they just needed to quickly get out of

00:10:55.820 there if you go back and watch footage of them pulling out you can indeed see that the door is

00:10:59.620 ajar so let's assume that's true and instead how they dealt with this door which was open while

00:11:05.500 they're doing 60 80 100 miles per hour is Rick Cutler holds Brian Harpole steady as Brian is

00:11:15.200 working on Charlie. Okay. So he's trying to stop the bleeding in his neck, according to Brian

00:11:19.920 Harpole. And Rick Cutler is basically, he's entrusting his life to Rick Cutler. Take a

00:11:26.100 listen to Brian's own words on this. The problem is we're going down the road and Charlie's so tall

00:11:33.340 that his leg, his left leg is down in the door and the door won't close. And so I'm on my knees

00:11:42.400 with the door open, with my butt hanging out at the side,

00:11:46.020 and I'm on my knees doing the medical,

00:11:48.680 and Justin's driving, you know, we're going 60, 80, 100,

00:11:52.780 and Rick has me across the kit in my shirt

00:11:57.620 so that I can use both hands to do the medical one.

00:12:03.220 So you don't fall out of the car.

00:12:04.900 So I don't fall out, and I just look at him,

00:12:06.840 and I don't need to say, you got me, he's got me.

00:12:09.280 I know he's got me.

00:12:10.620 Rick's a brother, he's got the tattoo.

00:12:12.400 And so I was like, he's got me. And so I just, I'm just working medical and Frank's praying out loud. Rick's praying out loud.

00:12:24.140 Okay. So if you're imagining that, we're going to try to do like a really sloppy AI to present that to you. But if you're thinking, by the way, hey, Frank's in the backseat, he's not doing anything. Could he maybe just kind of lean over and close the door?

00:12:35.980 Well, you heard him. Frank, according to Brian, was simply praying in the back seat. He's on his knees on the ground. We've got Rick Cutler reaching over to him. And he then claims that during this time, while Rick is holding him, Rick is busy, Frank's praying. You got those other two in the front.

00:12:53.780 he's going to put 36 feet of dressing around Charlie's neck.

00:13:01.300 36 feet.

00:13:02.560 I want you to hear him say that's a remarkable amount.

00:13:05.900 Very short drive.

00:13:07.240 He's working.

00:13:07.840 Like he says, quickly, take a listen.

00:13:10.280 I've got to stop that bleeding.

00:13:12.140 That's my primary thing.

00:13:14.140 And so whether he had a pulse then, it's unknown.

00:13:19.560 The body's an amazing thing.

00:13:21.300 that can do things, even when it's technically, you know, destroyed. And so, my concern is bleed

00:13:29.500 control. And so, I'm just, Rick's got me, Justin's driving, world's coming by, I'm working,

00:13:38.960 putting, I end up putting about 36 feet of dressing in him, and then four, four by fours,

00:13:50.420 and two hemostatic four-by-fours.

00:13:52.680 Sheesh.

00:13:55.240 Now, yeah, again, I'm wondering,

00:13:58.780 could Frank Turk come in for an assist here?

00:14:01.180 But he does make it clear that he doesn't know

00:14:03.800 whether or not Charlie has a pulse.

00:14:04.940 They're not doing CPR because his focus

00:14:07.280 is on getting his wound dressed.

00:14:11.660 And he also says the human body's amazing.

00:14:13.960 I mean, we've learned that.

00:14:15.020 It's so amazing.

00:14:15.680 It's up to 30 out of six,

00:14:16.580 3,000 pounds of energy coming at him in a bullet.

00:14:19.400 So why not just keep going? Let's just hope for more miracles here, not check his pulse and not do CPR and just worry about stopping the bleeding with 36 feet, 36 feet of dressing. And he repeats that story to Paramount Not So Tactical in a separate interview. Take a listen.

00:14:39.980 We're getting off the X, and so I'm on my knees, and I'm both hands, and I'm starting

00:14:46.460 to pile out like, you know, pack pressure, you know, exactly, and it's, it's, the saturation

00:14:50.800 point's unbelievable, and you're not pulling it out, you're adding to it, right, and so

00:14:55.260 we're getting that down in there, and I'm just, and I remember, it's, it's a training

00:15:01.980 point, we've done to it before, but, and there has to be a better way, like a manufacturer,

00:15:06.400 Maybe we can go into it.

00:15:07.740 It's like that little slit on the side of those.

00:15:12.120 You're talking about the hemostatic gauze?

00:15:13.720 Right.

00:15:14.020 Yeah.

00:15:14.540 It's like, gosh.

00:15:15.960 I usually go in and actually cut them a little bit more.

00:15:18.860 But then, you know, it's like, ah, but we need something to pull.

00:15:22.540 We need something in real time, right?

00:15:24.320 And so I'm opening those with my mouth and then putting them down

00:15:28.060 and then spreading it out a little bit and then putting them down

00:15:30.180 so I can get a pack in that.

00:15:31.520 And then I'm holding it there and then working off the other one.

00:15:36.240 Okay. So 12 yards, 36 feet. He's opening the packs. He's talked about he's got two packs of this with his mouth, discussing how difficult it is to open those packs. Miraculously, there's no evidence of that in the car. What there is evidence of is that he used one 4x4 EMS quick clot dressing, which he admits he used that just one pack. Here is the picture.

00:15:59.660 We can actually look at the floor and we have the entire floor of the back of where he was.

00:16:05.100 And you can see that he's got that one pack, which he potentially opened with his mouth on the side.

00:16:11.440 All of that looks to be a fact check true.

00:16:14.020 And I just want you to see like this is four by four dressing.

00:16:16.180 Here's the actual pack that's available online.

00:16:19.700 I don't know what to think about why there's not more, why we can't see more.

00:16:25.140 If he's pulling out all of this on the ground, I would expect to see more unless they mysteriously cleaned up the other packs that he was opening.

00:16:32.600 Note, those four by four packs, those are just 10 centimeters, 10 centimeters by 10 centimeters, nowhere near the 12 feet, the 36 feet that he's talking about.

00:16:43.660 Now, he certainly, and it sounds like, also had a roll of dressing, but those are sold at just four yards a roll.

00:16:50.080 So why on earth did Brian have handy six rolls of dressing in his small medical bag in addition to clotting packages?

00:16:59.140 That just seems to me to be very excessive and like we should see some evidence of that on the ground.

00:17:05.780 OK, I'm just asking you to park that information in the back of your mind.

00:17:08.400 There's a reason for that.

00:17:09.460 If we continue to look at the actual evidence of the car, we then have to ask ourselves, what could account for Frank Turek's, and it has to be a lie, according to Brian Harple, it's a lie.

00:17:21.080 Frank Turek says that he himself, Frank, tried to start CPR.

00:17:25.860 And to be clear, we can immediately determine that Frank Turek is likely the one lying in

00:17:29.940 that scenario and not Brian Harpole because Charlie was lying across the seats, okay?

00:17:34.920 His middle section was therefore not flat.

00:17:37.800 You cannot conduct emergency CPR on a person that is laying across two captain chairs with

00:17:45.560 their midsection in the air.

00:17:48.240 Brian, both of his hands are occupied.

00:17:50.320 He would be, it's not an ideal position at all,

00:17:52.600 but like he's the person that would be in the position

00:17:55.000 to address Charlie's chest area.

00:17:57.840 It's not possible, okay?

00:17:59.220 You need a flat surface to do CPR.

00:18:01.280 Everybody knows this.

00:18:02.200 And Brian has already admitted that it was him

00:18:04.560 that was on the floor, down on one knee beside the chair

00:18:07.660 because Charlie's legs were dangling off, okay?

00:18:10.240 Here's a very bad AI diagram that we're trying to show you

00:18:14.040 of what Brian Harpole is saying happened, right?

00:18:16.720 Brian would probably be a little more backed up toward the end there.

00:18:19.800 And, of course, we know Rick is going to be pulled over to the side holding on to him.

00:18:24.140 Frank Turek is in the back seat.

00:18:25.360 You're not conducting CPR in this environment.

00:18:28.620 I cannot stress enough that CPR could not have been conducted in that car.

00:18:35.000 Brian is telling the truth twice when he says that.

00:18:38.120 He focused on the bleeding, he says.

00:18:40.860 So why is there this disconnect?

00:18:42.240 Why not just simply say, if you're Frank Turek, yeah, I was just praying in the back.

00:18:48.620 I'm going to tell you what I think.

00:18:49.860 I'm going to tell you why I think, similar to what I said before, when you are telling

00:18:54.420 a little bit of a porcupine, the rule is it's because you're trying to introduce a truth

00:19:00.800 that doesn't really make sense, okay?

00:19:03.600 So here's what I think, not what I know.

00:19:05.660 This is the allegedly if O.J. Simpson did it, okay?

00:19:11.160 Not fact.

00:19:12.240 my opinion, allegedly, allegedly. I suspect that the CPR story, which cannot be true,

00:19:19.960 and which Brian Harple says is not true, was necessary because Frank needed an excuse for

00:19:25.700 why he changed into hospital scrubs when he got to the hospital. Remember, Frank did not help

00:19:31.980 carry Charlie into the back of the car. He did not run over to Charlie when Charlie got hit.

00:19:36.700 He never traverses over Charlie's body or near the men that were holding him to get into the car.

00:19:43.260 Do not forget, Frank climbed into the SUV from the trunk.

00:19:48.120 He didn't even have to go through, excuse me, let me, he climbed in through the trunk cleanly.

00:19:55.260 Let's watch Frank get into the car, courtesy of Terrell Farnsworth.

00:19:59.800 Take a look at this.

00:20:03.800 Watch that trunk.

00:20:06.700 there's Frank. He's going to get in that way. Nope. Rick's going to be busy. He gets in,

00:20:12.820 runs around and opens the trunk and gets into the car clean. Fresh white polo shirt. So Frank did

00:20:21.180 not touch Charlie after Charlie got hit. He did not help transport Charlie into the SUV and he

00:20:26.060 entered clean through the trunk, meaning there shouldn't be any blood spill on Frank Turek.

00:20:30.940 OK, it actually he had to willfully hop over from the trunk to even get into the backseat

00:20:37.080 in the first place, actually, which should have been clean, according to the story that

00:20:41.680 Brian is telling.

00:20:43.040 So given those facts and given Brian's testimony that Frank just prayed while they worked,

00:20:47.960 how did he get so much blood on him?

00:20:50.960 He certainly should not have had a significant amount of blood, which required him to change

00:20:55.640 his clothes into surgical scrubs at the hospital.

00:20:58.760 How did he get so much blood on him?

00:21:00.940 He needed a story, in my opinion. I tried to start CPR. We tried to do CPR. That's why I was

00:21:08.640 touching Charlie. By the way, I want to be clear, there's no such thing as we when it comes to the

00:21:14.320 physical touch of CPR. One person conducts the CPR. Another person might help count,

00:21:20.440 breathe into the mouth. But delivering chest impressions is not a team sport. You can switch

00:21:26.800 shot it off. Brian says, we didn't do that. And the person, we don't even know if he had a pulse,

00:21:31.980 that's what he said. Why would you conduct CPR if you're not, none of it makes any sense.

00:21:36.680 And like I said, the person who would have been in the worst possible position to give

00:21:39.800 compressions to Charlie's chest outside of the driver would be the man from the trunk,

00:21:45.140 amidst 36 feet of gauze being unrolled and wrapped around somebody's neck.

00:21:51.280 So what do our eyes tell us happened in this car?

00:21:54.560 When we look at the shards,

00:21:56.460 when we listen to Frank's discrepancy,

00:21:58.780 when we listen to Brian's discrepancy,

00:22:00.760 they're implausible stories.

00:22:02.660 One trying to suggest why he cut off the shirt,

00:22:04.820 the other one trying to suggest

00:22:06.040 why he had so much blood that he needed to change, okay?

00:22:08.760 Let's consider this a critical thinking exercise.

00:22:10.740 Again, we're theorizing here, not a fact, an opinion, okay?

00:22:14.920 We used to be able to do this,

00:22:16.040 to think critically from the evidence

00:22:17.400 that we can see in our car.

00:22:19.160 It looks to me like we can conclude firmly that Frank did indeed touch Charlie and he got a lot

00:22:25.460 of blood on his hands in the process. How do we know? Look at the back seat where only Frank was

00:22:30.060 sitting. Here are the photos that we showed you. We're going to zoom in here. Okay, forget the

00:22:35.040 brown bag, but let's zoom in to see there's blood on the seat. That looks to me like somebody just

00:22:41.960 sort of wiped their hands that had blood on their seat, okay?

00:22:46.360 It looks like someone who was sitting in the back seat

00:22:49.340 wiped onto the leather seats, okay?

00:22:52.620 That's got to be Frank Turek.

00:22:54.380 Do we agree that Brian Harple didn't jump over to the seat

00:22:57.140 to wipe his hand, that Rick Cutler couldn't have

00:22:59.540 because he's 100 miles per hour?

00:23:01.580 Most likely, that's Frank Turek,

00:23:03.300 who was sitting in the back seat, praying.

00:23:06.500 and uh it also looks like they used that brown paper looks like an uber bag to wipe their hands

00:23:16.420 onto the bag that that now that could have been brian maybe they passed it back and forth who

00:23:19.800 knows like i said frank was the only person in the back seat so the natural question arises

00:23:24.280 um with now that we're removing the plausibility of cpr for what reason did frank touch charlie

00:23:30.920 to the point that he may have acquired a lot of blood on his hands and a lot of blood on his

00:23:34.920 clothes. So here, again, is my theory not a fact? That could make sense. I'm going to tell you a

00:23:40.320 story, just a tale, and if I did it. All of them climbed into the car. The door was indeed left

00:23:47.640 open, and so Rick Cutler's hands were indeed tied up, making sure that Brian did not fall out.

00:23:53.040 Brian Harpole then whipped out his medical scissors, which are always pretty much safely

00:24:00.040 in any medical bag. You're going to have a small set of scissors, and he began cutting Charlie's

00:24:04.780 shirt off of him in the car with about five to six minutes on the clock. Now, you should

00:24:10.780 understand that it is not easy to cut through cotton using medical scissors. That's not what

00:24:16.180 they're designed for. So with Rick Cutler's hands tied up, holding Brian so that he wouldn't fall

00:24:22.580 out of the car, Frank leaned over for the assist, okay? Any person who has ever worked with fabric

00:24:29.340 knows, you need the tension of someone pulling the shirt to cut through it quickly, right? That's

00:24:35.360 going to be your easiest option is to try to cut through it and have someone pull to provide the

00:24:39.120 tension so that it slices through. Once the shirt was cut, they lifted up Charlie to pull it from

00:24:44.920 under him. And that's where all our road mic glass went. All of the shattered road glass pieces that

00:24:52.380 were on Charlie, under him, got wiped off of his body, brushed onto the floor, right? Landed onto

00:25:00.660 the ground. Now we're getting close to the hospital. Brian then realizes we should have been

00:25:07.460 providing neck assistance, not cutting off his shirt. And so he grabs a pack, maybe two,

00:25:16.820 of quick clot to put on Charlie's neck because otherwise there wouldn't have been any evidence

00:25:22.200 that anybody was working on him on that very short ride

00:25:25.680 as they were going to receive them at the hospital.

00:25:28.940 The very same reason that they didn't put him

00:25:32.180 into an ambulance potentially

00:25:34.120 is because they needed to remove Charlie's shirt

00:25:38.600 and did not want people to ask questions

00:25:42.420 about why or notice that there was this microphone

00:25:46.120 bits that were all over Charlie's body.

00:25:49.120 Now under that totally imagined scenario

00:25:51.780 That would, of course, mean that Charlie arrived to the hospital without a shirt on, he was shirtless, which would have been an inexplicable oddity that would require, well, Kash Patel's FBI team to swoop in and to seize the cameras expeditiously, which they did.

00:26:09.320 We didn't understand at the time.

00:26:10.160 Why would they seize the cameras on the outside and on the inside of the hospital, we asked ourselves?

00:26:18.300 That might be why.

00:26:19.340 again we're using our imagination here it makes sense to me that there was an oddity on camera

00:26:25.560 with how charlie showed up in that suv whether it was the wrong time maybe but i think it was

00:26:32.400 his condition okay um yeah because it would have been an impossible thing to explain if for some 0.99

00:26:42.040 reason somebody had leaked the footage of inside of the hospital emergency room it's a lie so stupid 0.99

00:26:47.980 to say that you jumped on top of him, 0.98

00:26:50.120 all of which would have been filmed, right?

00:26:53.940 FBI just got to step in and clean that up.

00:26:55.940 That's not, if that's the story we're going with,

00:26:58.060 there can be no cameras of what happened on the inside.

00:27:01.380 Now, why do this?

00:27:02.460 Why remove his shirt?

00:27:03.780 Well, because explosive residue

00:27:05.680 is extremely contagious, so to speak.

00:27:09.140 The microscopic particles are passed through

00:27:11.780 even the most casual contact between two people, okay?

00:27:14.360 It adheres to surfaces.

00:27:15.360 explosives are substances that have adhesive energy. If Charlie were in fact killed by an

00:27:21.700 explosive, everyone who came into contact with his body would have had to get rid of their clothing.

00:27:29.740 No questions asked. They would have had to get because they would have said that is explosive

00:27:32.160 residue. A bomb dog would have smelled that in three seconds. Okay. Less than that. None of their

00:27:38.620 clothing could have been tested or they would have had traces of explosives. Everybody who was near

00:27:43.480 him, their clothes have to be abandoned. And you sure as heck, like I said, better keep the bomb

00:27:49.680 dogs at bay. So it's just as well that they all admitted and came out and talked about how they

00:27:55.500 got into these scrubs. Not even that, but they also said that they threw out their clothes.

00:28:00.040 But they, again, provided you with a reason. So that's not suspicious, right?

00:28:05.520 Frank Turek told the story of why we'll never be able to see his clothes ever again. Take a listen.

00:28:10.660 we got to the hospital somewhere around 12 30 um he was shot right like maybe 12 20 it took us like

00:28:19.660 10 minutes to get there maybe 15 we had no it's just an suv we had no lights we were just screaming

00:28:27.340 saw that yeah we get there mikey had already sent a plane to get erica right and uh she got there

00:28:38.140 I want to say about 3 o'clock.

00:28:42.220 Talked to the doctor.

00:28:45.920 Went up and had private time with Charlie's body, you know.

00:28:50.780 It's about 5.30.

00:28:54.440 I'm about the only one in the emergency room area just standing there.

00:28:59.580 I'm in scrubs because...

00:29:02.080 Your clothes.

00:29:02.800 Your clothes were, yeah.

00:29:03.520 I didn't want her to see any of that.

00:29:04.720 No way.

00:29:05.120 well two loving pastors discussing that they did this because they didn't want erica to see him

00:29:14.320 like that he admits elsewhere he threw his clothes away in essence every crucial piece of evidence

00:29:20.960 which might go some way of debunking the explosive theory was destroyed given away

00:29:28.200 for the the almighty widow how could you question it of course of course jack kibbs says of course

00:29:34.500 you got rid of your clothes.

00:29:36.520 You wouldn't want Erica to see the blood

00:29:38.380 on your clothes. Yes.

00:29:40.540 Everything we're doing makes sense. Of course,

00:29:42.460 she would want the cross.

00:29:44.960 It's very convenient

00:29:46.220 that everywhere there would be

00:29:48.500 evidence of explosive residue

00:29:50.280 got taken care of. Hey, let's

00:29:52.340 repave it like tomorrow, the entire

00:29:54.300 scene, because she doesn't want to relive that.

00:29:56.660 Tucker. I mean, not Tucker.

00:29:58.440 Terrell, when I spoke to him, he used the widow.

00:30:00.300 That was his excuse. I said, hey, why'd you take these cameras

00:30:02.400 down? I didn't want Erica to relive Charlie

00:30:04.340 dying. I said, Terrell, Terrell, what do you mean? It's all over the internet. Why specifically the

00:30:12.600 back cameras? You know, I spoke to Erica and I didn't want her to relive another angle of Charlie

00:30:20.520 dying. It's all very convenient. The widow is the most convenient person in the story if it's a

00:30:29.720 cleanup job. We don't know. We don't know, no. We know. We'll be right back after the break. 0.94

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00:32:39.400 for USA residents only. I see someone in the comments asking a question. What about Charlie's

00:32:45.040 pants? Great question. We don't see them listed in evidence. That's a great question. Where are

00:32:51.700 Charlie's pants? We're going to probably hear a story about how special the pants were. I don't 0.94

00:32:57.320 know, maybe they're at another fundraiser. My best guess is they are in the garbage or they are with 0.54

00:33:02.760 Erica. Just like noticing some themes of the story. They were either thrown out or they are with Erica.

00:33:09.760 We'll find out. And if anybody knows the answer to that question, hey, anybody at Timpanagos who

00:33:14.280 recalls this incredible scene, please reach out to us. We'd like to know. By the way,

00:33:20.180 speaking of my amazing at-home sleuths, I was really surprised by how many people emailed us

00:33:26.900 regarding my assessment from Erica's entirely different signature. It correctly informed me

00:33:36.780 when I researched this that that is a sign of dissociative identity disorder. And we talked

00:33:40.940 about that yesterday. So many people reached out to me who have dissociative identity disorder or

00:33:46.000 who had it. And all of them with the same stories, a trauma happened in their youth. They watched

00:33:50.600 like, you know, their dad killed their mom. They were abused as a child and that they developed

00:33:55.700 this ability to completely dissociate. And there was one person who said, not only is what you're

00:34:02.500 saying fitting perfectly with Erica, given everything that we know about her and her alters,

00:34:07.520 so to speak, which means the different personalities that she has, like the holier-than-thou

00:34:11.260 presentation of when she's married with Charlie, the anger that we see. But they said that is also

00:34:17.700 a dissociative identity disorder. One of the telltale signs is the eyes. And they sent me

00:34:24.480 this. I don't know if we have it right because I'm reading this from my phone. And it says,

00:34:27.940 yes, dissociative disorders can show observable physical changes in the eyes, including a strained

00:34:33.420 look, unblinking stares, or opening the eyes harshly, like that people immediately notice

00:34:41.320 about Erica. While dissociation is a mental defense mechanism, it heavily interacts with

00:34:47.080 the autonomic nervous system and trauma responses, directly altering your facial tension and your

00:34:52.020 pupil dilation and your eye movements. This is from the NHS website, by the way. Physical changes

00:34:58.260 in the eyes during a dissociation is the trauma stare, which is known as harsh widening. When a

00:35:05.760 person dissociates, the body's fight or flight system can spike, which floods them with adrenaline,

00:35:10.560 which forces the pupils to dilate and the eyes to open harshly. Like that was the thing that we were

00:35:15.240 like, she kept doing and we were going, what's going on? Another element of this is the fixed

00:35:20.580 blank stare, which is like they're in a trance-like state. I have said that. It's like she's not

00:35:25.320 there a loss of visual focuses and those are indicators that they are they're switching like

00:35:32.480 they're switching into another i don't know personality and you guys are correct that um

00:35:38.560 the history of that does go back to project monarch this was intentional our government

00:35:42.720 did a lot of experiments with that the cia and trained people to intentionally disassociate

00:35:48.660 people that are serial killers that are used as weapons and they want to make sure that they lock

00:35:53.800 down their personalities, if the police ever come across them. There's a lot of evil, intentional,

00:35:59.760 mental abuse that are imparted on victims because the government views that as an asset for people

00:36:06.560 to be able to disassociate. So I wanted to point that out because I'm always so stunned by what I

00:36:11.780 am learning on the show from people. And to thank everyone who has had this disorder or has this

00:36:16.520 disorder, I don't know if it's ever solved, for explaining to me their personal stories and

00:36:20.420 all of them saying that you do have these memory gaps, which we're seeing with her,

00:36:25.100 where she just totally says something totally opposite and becomes a different person. Like,

00:36:28.540 you can't just be anti-Israel and then, you know, pro-Israel. And usually in those climates,

00:36:35.580 when the CIA is involved in intentionally creating these abused people who float between

00:36:41.900 different personalities, there is a handler, so to speak, who has the key to get them to switch

00:36:50.040 you into different personalities. There's a lot that can be done on that, a lot of literature

00:36:53.300 that's been written. But if you're interested in that, as I am, you should definitely look into it

00:36:57.100 further. Again, MKUltra program, the stuff that our military got involved with, and the beginning

00:37:02.580 of that being Project Monarch, which took place in Germany. And we brought over all of those 0.99

00:37:07.120 psychoanalysts and psychologists who themselves were psychopaths. Okay, moving on to this item

00:37:14.720 in Semaphore regarding The Daily Wire. Okay, before we actually even get to the article,

00:37:19.720 which was obviously intentionally placed in Semaphore to attract potential investors,

00:37:25.820 I just want to show you this tweet from Dave Rubin, who the public sort of recently learned

00:37:30.220 might not be smarter than a fifth grader because he went on to that debate show Jubilee. I've done

00:37:35.060 it in the past. Charlie Kirk's done it in the past. Ben Shapiro was on it in the past. You're

00:37:38.840 surrounded by 20 progressive participants, and you are debating them on something that you're

00:37:44.360 passionate about. So I debated them on feminism. And I guess Dave Rubin decided he was going to

00:37:49.920 wing it on foreign policy and Trump and economics. And he got positively destroyed in case you missed

00:37:56.640 this. It was trending for like a week. We hadn't covered it. Particularly, he got destroyed on the

00:38:00.580 topic of Israel and Trump's successes, because my best piece of advice for debating anyone

00:38:06.160 is to not take the obviously immoral and indefensible position in the debate. Like,

00:38:12.900 Don't arrive at a debate defending Israel's actions in Gaza.

00:38:16.800 Don't arrive at a debate defending Trump's administration right now, right, in the Iran

00:38:22.220 war.

00:38:22.780 So I'm going to give you an example of his inability to articulate outside of his tribalism 0.70

00:38:29.240 of anything that's Israel. 0.99

00:38:30.460 Yay, yay, yay.

00:38:31.560 He's unable to articulate to this person what Trump has done this time around to warrant

00:38:37.220 any allegiance to him on the basis of his promises that he made to his voters.

00:38:41.600 Take a listen.

00:38:42.900 What is one main metric that Donald Trump has made better off since he got in office?

00:38:46.560 Like, an example would be GDP, unemployment, inflation, etc.

00:38:49.880 Well, right now, first off, the big, beautiful bill was just passed last year,

00:38:53.720 and it's kicking in now, right? It's kicking in now.

00:38:57.220 Okay, so we are going to now see results of that.

00:39:00.340 Like, even the tariffs. All right, so let's do tariffs.

00:39:02.420 Are you for or against tariffs?

00:39:04.060 Against the universal tariffs. So what's the main metric that he made better off?

00:39:07.480 What?

00:39:07.880 What's the main metric that he made better off? GDP, unemployment, inflation?

00:39:11.160 Do you have any idea?

00:39:11.580 Listen. I don't think you do.

00:39:19.100 Narrator, he did not. He had not one point that he could deliver of what Trump did,

00:39:23.620 but Trump allows Israel to bomb people and schools indiscriminately. Speaking of which, 0.75

00:39:29.440 here is another moment where he clearly has no idea what's going on in Gaza, but 0.79

00:39:33.100 like he's a Zionist. So let's rah-rah. It's all fine. Take a listen. 0.92

00:39:37.940 Trump made several campaign promises to his voters that he hasn't come through on,

00:39:43.520 and yet we continue to hear you guys bootlick him all the time.

00:39:47.460 And it's very frustrating to me that you're not holding—

00:39:48.780 Well, the topic is the modern left cares more about ideology.

00:39:51.020 Yeah, and I disagree with the claim.

00:39:52.880 I think that the modern right cares more about ideology.

00:39:54.960 What is that ideology?

00:39:56.100 Okay, so let's look at some of the things that Trump ran on, right?

00:39:59.260 He ran on an America first campaign, and then he bombs Venezuela.

00:40:03.700 Then he doesn't end the war in Israel, even though he promised he was going to do that.

00:40:07.100 What do you mean? The war is over.

00:40:09.460 The war is over.

00:40:10.200 No, it's very much no.

00:40:11.760 There's a ceasefire. There's not one Israeli in Gaza.

00:40:14.360 The hostages are home.

00:40:15.560 No, that is absolutely not true.

00:40:18.080 That is fundamentally false.

00:40:19.580 You're saying there are hostages in Gaza right now and the war is continuing?

00:40:22.380 The conflict has continued. Yes, there have continued to be bombs.

00:40:25.620 They're bombing Gaza right now. That's what you're telling me?

00:40:28.260 Yes.

00:40:28.380 Yeah, that's not true.

00:40:29.620 I mean, I know you get your news from Grok, but this is a fact that has continued to happen.

00:40:34.060 and then they fact check him throughout the entire thing and he has no idea what he's talking about

00:40:38.560 and this has kind of been a theme like he interviews a lot of people it's fine to be an

00:40:41.980 interviewer but when you are going to kind of insert yourself as an intellectual you got to do

00:40:46.180 a little bit of reading and a bit of background and not go back on vibes and even if you go back

00:40:50.420 to dave rubin's book which i read don't burn this book i knew he had no idea about foreign policy

00:40:54.880 because there's a chapter where he actually published i think this was back in 2020 when

00:40:58.500 he published his book that ukraine was a member of nato i mean that's so patently false it's

00:41:03.300 shocking that it even survived a fact check and got published on stands. So he just has no idea

00:41:08.500 what's going on. And he strikes me as someone who only reads headlines. So my suspicion was all but

00:41:13.580 confirmed when Semaphore dropped an article about the Daily Wire. And Dave Rubin just tweets this,

00:41:18.340 just full Zionist tribalism. He tweets, coming soon from Daily Wire, Megan and Tucker tears to

00:41:25.740 Tumblr. And he shares exclusive Daily Wires and talks to take on at least 100 million in strategic

00:41:32.160 investment with an eye on an IPO. That's all he read. It's very clear that's all he read. He didn't

00:41:36.480 even click the headline and get brought to the Semaphore website because if he had, if he wasn't

00:41:42.300 winging it, he would have seen this fuller headline. He just couldn't be bothered. It reads

00:41:47.980 exclusive Daily Wire under pressure seeks strategic investors and targets an IPO. So the exact opposite

00:41:55.520 thing is happening. Daily Wire needs money. And here's what they're trying to do. They're trying

00:42:00.140 to raise $100 million. They have been trying to raise money for a very long time. And I have been

00:42:06.680 saying on this show, I mean, the content of the article sums up what we've all known. The Daily

00:42:10.660 Wire has been in a state of rapid decline, and they're seeking a way out. After the last private

00:42:15.840 equity firm clearly failed to rescue them, they are now turning to high-mount capital to try to

00:42:21.060 help them raise money at a valuation that is so absurd that they surely know they are not going

00:42:26.760 to meet it, given their distressed financial state. And I got to say, it brings me absolutely

00:42:31.980 no pleasure to report that an organization that spent two years trying to bankrupt my family

00:42:38.300 because I think genocide is always wrong, doesn't matter who's advocating for it, doesn't matter if

00:42:42.780 Trump is advocating for it, if it's Jared Kushner, if it's my side, if it's your side, if it's his

00:42:47.040 side, it's wrong. Now they have found themselves in a situation that they attempted to really force

00:42:53.600 upon me for wrong think. And here are the main takeaways from the article. Finally, they admit

00:42:58.180 that Pendragon, the Pendragon cycle, Jeremy Boring's pet project, is what caused a significant

00:43:04.420 amount of financial duress for the company. OK, they finally admitted that they spent $50 million

00:43:11.200 on just seven episodes. That's that is just you understand how crazy and insane that is.

00:43:19.620 They spent actually, by the way, to be clear, I've been saying the whole time,

00:43:22.620 more than $50 million, closer to $60, but at least they're finally admitting that it wasn't $10

00:43:27.420 million or $7 million as it had been reported in the past. That means they spent more per an episode

00:43:32.880 than HBO spent on the first season of Game of Thrones. I want you to process that. That is

00:43:37.800 mania. That is Jeremy's mania, okay? That is the single greatest contributor to the fall of the

00:43:44.480 company. Jeremy Boring constantly needing to fulfill his childhood fantasies. Now, he tried

00:43:52.380 to scrape back some of that price tag by getting rid of me. I've been telling you guys a story

00:43:56.660 forever. They were under financial pressure. They needed to remove people that they were paying.

00:44:00.540 They weren't going to do Jordan Peterson. So they got rid of me in a rather glorious public firing,

00:44:04.640 which Jeremy was hoping would lead to more subs, taking a moral position, saying she's

00:44:09.540 anti-Semitic. They were hoping that more people would sign up. Christ is king, is anti-Semitic.

00:44:14.180 but it actually backfired and it catalyzed their financial woes.

00:44:18.160 That was then followed by Brett Cooper's exit later that same year,

00:44:21.740 also because of Jeremy Boring and his mania.

00:44:24.980 And then they tried to sell.

00:44:27.220 Doing this exact same strategy, different private equity firm behind them,

00:44:30.600 at the end of 2024, they were sort of like fake pumping their subscription numbers.

00:44:35.380 What I mean by that is they started giving away their memberships,

00:44:39.480 like basically for free.

00:44:41.000 Buy one, get one free.

00:44:42.020 buy a lifetime subscription for X amount of dollars, sign up today, don't pay anything until

00:44:46.460 2029. You get the idea. The gist of that is it allows a company that's struggling to pretend

00:44:52.400 that they're having a boost in subscriptions without having to say, but we're not making

00:44:57.800 any profit. Like I could get 10,000 subs if I offered them all for free, right? You can say

00:45:03.260 things like we had our highest years in subscriptions without saying because we're

00:45:08.380 giving our subscriptions away, right? This is an example. Buy one year, get one year free. That's

00:45:14.020 for the ability to sell to people that your company is doing well when you're actually

00:45:18.440 struggling. It's like a everything must go sale, right? Then they go, we had the highest day of

00:45:25.180 revenue. Yeah, because you offered everything for a dollar. I love this stuff because as many of you

00:45:29.960 know, I used to work in private equity, which in that particular firm that I worked at in New York

00:45:33.640 City specialized in distressed debt. So I got really interested in looking at how struggling

00:45:37.340 companies tried to make the numbers look better, like we had our best year of subscriptions.

00:45:42.740 And Semaphore actually produced a chart showing the decline of the daily wire. It's remarkable.

00:45:47.680 The revenue growth has slowed. They've admitted that they had no subscriber growth this past year.

00:45:54.020 Their advertising, go back to the advertising on the right-hand side, seeing how that has dropped.

00:46:00.320 I love that it's all happening the year that I left. And you can see their subscriptions as well.

00:46:07.100 A complete collapse has happened.

00:46:11.240 So why is this happening?

00:46:13.160 Well, because they're unnecessarily awful to everyone.

00:46:16.900 I've never seen a person less capable of making friends,

00:46:20.920 or at least not making enemies,

00:46:22.460 you don't need to be friends with everybody,

00:46:24.320 than Ben Shapiro.

00:46:25.480 It's a bizarre talent he has.

00:46:27.180 He thinks that people disagreeing with him

00:46:28.920 is a declaration of war.

00:46:30.580 Okay, this is how the company is run from top to bottom.

00:46:33.220 They hate you if you don't agree with them. 0.64

00:46:36.200 And even their editor-in-chief, I can't think of the guy's name, he spends his time just throwing insults on Twitter aimed at 19-year-olds, calling them Hitler and anti-Semites.

00:46:44.980 If they discuss something like the USS Liberty, they do that, okay?

00:46:49.220 That's not a company, that's a cult, and a cult cannot survive.

00:46:52.720 So what is their next push?

00:46:54.700 Well, they're pushing out these articles.

00:46:56.740 We had $48 million in adjusted EBITDA.

00:47:00.600 Adjusted.

00:47:01.040 Oh, well, how did you adjust that EBITDA?

00:47:02.820 That means we calculated the EBITDA and then we added some stuff back to the number because we don't count this money that went out the door.

00:47:14.300 I mean, you could adjust EBITDA until the cows go home, until we can see your books.

00:47:18.900 They're in a very precarious situation.

00:47:21.540 That is a reality.

00:47:23.560 And like I said, this is what happens when you just can't accept that some people disagree with you.

00:47:29.180 And so what they mentioned in this article is their next thing as they're going out to companies is that they think that they can successfully IPO it. And that is a last ditch effort to turn to people at home and go, hey, the Daily Wire is going to go to the stock market. You could own a piece of the Daily Wire. And when that happens in that situation, it's like a Trump meme coin. It's worthless. But of course, the people at the top get fat and rich, relying on people that have less money to put their money into the markets. And so it's going to be you.

00:47:58.400 The same people that they have basically shaped this company to now refer to as anti-Semites, as literally Hitler, as idiots. 0.98

00:48:06.500 I mean, watching Ben's show, for those of you who do it, how much content can I see clips going out on X of him talking about Tucker Carlson and me? 0.99

00:48:15.800 Is it really riveting to learn that Candace Owens is going to Russia with her family to say that, you know, Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly are this, that?

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00:51:13.180 Okay, top comments from last episode.

00:51:15.100 Judith Brunko writes, I'm a retired ER nurse married to a retired emergency room medical

00:51:20.660 doctor, and Harpole's story is so absurd.

00:51:24.000 Only highly trained ER staff and surgeons enter the trauma rooms with the trauma patient.

00:51:28.180 Time is of the essence to save their lives, and interference from visitors is strictly

00:51:31.540 forbidden.

00:51:32.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:34.180 I mean, so many people were writing this and it was just incredible to see. Gina Schubert writes, I'm a nurse working in a hospital for 22 years. No way that happened, as Brian Harpole says. No. I mean, even the idea of just like scissors and jumping on someone, they'd be like, is this person finishing the person off? We don't know what's happening. Is this person here to hurt him? Like, none of it makes any sense.

00:51:55.500 Also, I wanted to add here, someone emailed us with very good knowledge.

00:52:01.120 I would just say this person was very high up the chain at a police department.

00:52:03.700 He said, you should be able to find what district attorney, because only a district attorney could release that, like the cross necklace, the back to Erica, the microphone.

00:52:17.680 That would require a signed release from a district attorney.

00:52:21.480 That never happens.

00:52:22.400 it is considered evidence unless a district attorney signs off on it. So how did Erica get

00:52:27.180 all of these artifacts back? Great question and a lead that we will explore. Also, you guys wanted

00:52:32.080 to let you know I saw all of your comments and emails. It's a rabbit hole regarding the Toole

00:52:38.580 witness, Sarah Toole, who changed her story three times. We will have that information for you

00:52:44.720 tomorrow. We're going to look into the witness tree. I was positively shocked. I guess not really

00:52:50.220 because her changing her story was odd to begin with.

00:52:52.940 You guys know that she was smiling, of course, the whole time,

00:52:56.180 which I didn't even point to because the story was so absurd.

00:52:58.420 I didn't even get to the part that she was smiling.

00:53:00.660 But a lot more there than meets the eye.

00:53:03.420 We're going to get into that tomorrow.

00:53:04.940 Jaina also wrote from yesterday, nurse here,

00:53:06.840 OMG, this man has me hollering.

00:53:08.980 He did not wheel him into a room and get on top and cut off his clothes. 1.00

00:53:12.660 Are you insane? 0.97

00:53:14.140 Never in any ER hospital setting would this happen ever. 0.98

00:53:17.300 not only are you rooming patients, you are not discussing drugs or a defibrillator. Oh my,

00:53:23.720 OMG, I'm hollering. This is insane. You are not a hospital employee, medical staff, sir.

00:53:28.080 Yes. I also had wondered regarding the defibrillator if he was also creating a reason

00:53:33.600 for why Charlie's chest might have some bruising. That was a weird thing to say. I set it up for

00:53:40.100 them. It implies that they did it or they asked him to set that up for him. And I'm wondering if

00:53:45.260 that's because there might be some marks that they know is a part of the autopsy report that

00:53:52.200 they're going to explain as, well, that was from Charlie got defibrillated. Something that was just

00:53:56.740 in the back of my mind. We'll see. Comments from today's episode. Marlowe's writes, I'm a Catholic

00:54:00.840 Lebanese born in Australia. Thank you for speaking up about what is happening in Lebanon. Our media

00:54:05.480 shows nothing as Australia is also controlled by Israel. Love you, Candace, Christ is king. 0.61

00:54:10.260 Yes, I'm aware I got banned from Australia 0.99

00:54:11.920 because the Zionist lobby of Australia

00:54:14.540 banned together and said that I was a danger.

00:54:17.540 Weird that you're so allowed to listen to my podcast.

00:54:19.200 Is it somehow not dangerous?

00:54:20.740 Is it only in person?

00:54:21.780 Am I going to harm someone?

00:54:23.240 Funny thing is I was doing my tour

00:54:24.400 about motherhood and feminism,

00:54:25.620 but I got kicked out anyways. 0.96

00:54:27.600 So yes, I would agree with your assessment there.

00:54:30.380 Ashley writes, hi Candice, congratulations.

00:54:32.200 Also curious what cousin Mia's opinion is about Erica 0.99

00:54:35.500 when you both walked out of that meeting months ago. 0.88

00:54:38.140 she just wasn't feeling it didn't pass the vibe check couple of moments um she just was not

00:54:46.900 feeling it i will leave it at that jungle mike writes erica's interview on fox news where she

00:54:52.080 says shabbat shalom daddy's home could that be a reference to the pager attack that the massad

00:54:56.640 committed i saw some chatter about that i don't know anything about that uh i don't think so i

00:55:01.260 think she just kind of accidentally rhymed there when she said that shabbat shalom daddy's home

00:55:05.820 You know, he'd throw it on his phone.

00:55:07.300 And then James Lee sort of made that,

00:55:09.660 like it was just like funny

00:55:10.500 that it did kind of sound like she was rapping a bit.

00:55:13.680 Joseph writes, lies have no chance

00:55:16.160 when Candace is solving the Charlie Kirk murder 0.97

00:55:18.460 using the blog chain, St. John the Baptist,

00:55:21.360 or pro nobis, yes.

00:55:23.320 Ora pro nobis, St. John the Baptist.

00:55:26.320 And they also have no chance now that I'm pregnant.

00:55:28.960 Actually, we have a clip of Charlie.

00:55:31.060 Do we have that clip?

00:55:33.860 Charlie, take a listen to this.

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00:56:05.740 for full details what do you have to say to the trans students on this campus who actively feel

00:56:11.260 victimized by your presence life's tough get a helmet man i'm too pregnant for this next question 0.89

00:56:17.680 do not mess with a pregnant candace i i love it candace not putting up with this nonsense not

00:56:26.080 playing into the feelings or the emotion life is tough and stop asking the world around you

00:56:31.740 to accommodate your weird fringe ideologies.

00:56:35.400 Grow up.

00:56:36.920 That's how I feel about the FBI.

00:56:38.500 They have the weird fringe ideologies.

00:56:40.160 I'm pregnant and I'm just not dealing

00:56:41.640 with the nonsense anymore.

00:56:43.760 I kind of love and hate watching old clips of him

00:56:46.660 just being so happy and enjoying himself.

00:56:48.340 It's crazy what they did to him.

00:56:51.420 Moderator Marzi writes,

00:56:52.520 Erica disassociating while lying

00:56:54.300 is like Elizabeth Holmes getting caught grifting 0.97

00:56:56.140 and lying with fake lab machines. 1.00

00:56:57.700 She had gaze issues as well 0.99

00:56:59.280 and couldn't control her eyes widening and getting dry.

00:57:01.740 She stared at people who asked tough questions. I remember that. She was the biotech entrepreneur

00:57:06.320 who got convicted of fraud and then went to a fake prison that she's probably not even in.

00:57:11.020 You should look into her family. You want to fall down a rabbit hole of how these billionaire

00:57:14.600 families come and just keep their billions while pretending that they're inventing things. 0.94

00:57:18.520 Elizabeth Holmes could be a whole series. Her parent, her family, I forgot her actual family

00:57:24.880 name and their dynasty that they come from, but she didn't pop up out of nowhere. That's old

00:57:29.320 money. The next person writes, I forgot who said that there is a call from one of the police cars

00:57:35.880 following Charlie's car, and they said it looked like someone was trying to jump out of the car.

00:57:41.560 Yes, Brian briefly discussed in that Sean Ryan interview how they caught a police tail,

00:57:46.920 so it's possible that they saw Rick and maybe thought that Rick was trying to jump out of the

00:57:52.040 car since the car door was open. We have not played that or found that 911 call. What I would

00:57:57.780 like to discover is where who in the car called 9-1-1. No one has taken, raised their hand and

00:58:04.460 said it was me. I would assume it would be Dan Flood. That would be my assumption. Where in the

00:58:09.480 world is Dan Flood? He's been the most quiet. I think Dan Flood is positively guilt-ridden.

00:58:16.040 He declined Erica, offering him a promotion. Crazy that she offered it to him,

00:58:21.260 but telling that he denied it.

00:58:25.660 I think Dan Flood is guilt-ridden.

00:58:27.840 I really do.

00:58:30.120 I'll leave it at that.

00:58:32.800 Lastly, Palladian disputes something that I say.

00:58:35.560 She says, my husband has dissociative identity disorder.

00:58:38.420 Believe me that Erica does not.

00:58:40.440 To get Catholic donations, she acts Catholic.

00:58:42.720 She charms Tucker with his own views as a CEO.

00:58:45.640 She adopts a serious signature.

00:58:47.560 She's a con artist, not dissociative identity disorder.

00:58:51.260 I just don't think you need to change your signature to be a CEO. And I don't, like, I don't think that, I mean, she just, she doesn't remember any details. She seems actually angry when she says something, which completely disputes something she said a few months ago. And a lot of people who wrote to me who similarly have a disorder say that it's a real amnesia because you've learned to dissociate since childhood.

00:59:13.700 But I do think when I put together the picture of her life, which I don't think anyone has spent more time doing, that there was some trauma that happened to her.

00:59:21.760 I'd like to still discover who her pastor was that she took two years off with his wife to, quote unquote, learn the Bible.

00:59:30.660 I think that's a very important detail that we never got the answer to.

00:59:35.820 She took two years off to study the Bible and said no one saw her except for her pastor and her pastor's wife.

00:59:42.960 That is not normal.

00:59:45.360 Who was it?

00:59:46.660 Who was Erica's pastor?

00:59:47.760 Everyone takes credit for being her pastor,

00:59:49.100 but who was her pastor?

00:59:50.540 Was it James Caddis?

00:59:52.140 Was it, I'm assuming it's probably someone

00:59:53.860 that's involved with Turning Point Faith.

00:59:54.940 That would make sense.

00:59:56.880 Anyway, if you guys have any information,

00:59:59.160 and by the way, we also got a ton of emails

01:00:00.600 about the Epstein model thing.

01:00:01.900 We have to sort of chase these leads,

01:00:03.320 so we needed a day.

01:00:04.620 If you have any information,

01:00:05.740 you guys know what you can do.

01:00:07.480 Email us at moretips at candisowns.com.

01:00:09.860 We are particularly interested in the Epstein thread

01:00:11.840 that we have been pulling about Erica.

01:00:13.600 And next, model management.

01:00:15.300 You might be a model, a former model.

01:00:17.000 You might remember Erica being in charge

01:00:19.760 of the Eastern European model department, 0.88

01:00:22.100 model apartments.

01:00:23.780 Like I said, we do have some phone calls to make

01:00:25.420 because we've got some very promising leads.

01:00:27.360 I don't want to throw that out again

01:00:28.080 because I think it's a crucial piece of this.

01:00:30.040 And yeah, anything else that you think

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Candace Owens - June 25, 2026

Charlie’s Final Ride To The Hospital Isn’t Adding Up. Neither Is Daily Wire’s Accounting. ｜ Ep 355

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