Candace Owens - December 03, 2024


CIA Whistleblower Returns: What Is America Doing In The Middle East? | Candace Ep 113


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1 hour and 3 minutes

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183.97612

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11,711

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838

Misogynist Sentences

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Summary

In this episode, Kevin Shipp joins me to talk about his experience working for the CIA and how he became the Chief Mockingbird. He also talks about how the CIA is using technology to spy on its own citizens. Kevin also discusses how the mainstream media is no longer the propaganda arm of the CIA.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All right, guys, I got so many comments from you when I had this guest before.
00:00:04.160 Candace, please just shut up.
00:00:05.660 It was that good of an episode, and I'm only human, you guys.
00:00:08.920 I was so excited, obviously, because I finally had someone who was able to further inform us regarding the CIA,
00:00:17.620 all of the declassified documents that I've been reading.
00:00:20.800 To have someone be so forthcoming and honest about his experience in the CIA,
00:00:24.920 I truly was like a kid at Disneyland.
00:00:27.860 I just couldn't help myself, but I promised you guys I would bring him back,
00:00:32.220 and we're going to cover so many more topics.
00:00:34.800 So, Kevin Shipp, welcome back to Candace.
00:00:36.900 Thank you. Thanks for having me back.
00:00:38.640 Tremendously successful episode.
00:00:40.720 Good.
00:00:41.040 I think currently above 4 million views on YouTube alone.
00:00:45.460 Great.
00:00:45.980 People are really just craving truth.
00:00:48.720 Yeah.
00:00:49.060 They know the mainstream media is lying.
00:00:51.360 Hearing your story and your journey through the CIA,
00:00:54.580 also you being a whistleblower, which makes us terrified for your life.
00:00:59.200 It really tells us that we're at a turning point, I think, in the United States.
00:01:03.440 We are.
00:01:04.240 And thanks to programs like yours,
00:01:06.920 and the mainstream media is no longer the propaganda arm of the CIA,
00:01:11.280 is no longer in ultimate control.
00:01:12.600 Now we have shows like yours and others that are getting the truth and the real news out,
00:01:17.600 and people are desperate and they're thirsty for that sort of thing,
00:01:21.020 because we've been lied to for so long.
00:01:23.560 And I think that's why your show is doing so well,
00:01:25.800 because you've got the courage to put the truth out there, which I admire.
00:01:29.460 And so, yeah, things are looking a lot better than they were.
00:01:33.220 That is for sure.
00:01:34.080 I think you had mentioned that under Obama, Project Mockingbird.
00:01:39.840 I guess just elaborate on what you were telling me about that before.
00:01:42.720 Well, Project Mockingbird, you know, they alleged that that went away in 1976
00:01:47.000 when George H.W. Bush, who, by the way, was a longtime CIA operative, which he covered up.
00:01:53.200 George H.W. Bush, they put him as director of the CIA intensely,
00:01:57.640 and he came out and gave a news conference when Mockingbird was busted by the church committee.
00:02:01.820 Bush came out and did a news conference saying,
00:02:04.340 well, this is an official statement.
00:02:06.860 The CIA will no longer pay journalists to plant stories and papers.
00:02:10.700 But then people missed the last part of his statement.
00:02:13.280 From now on, it will just be voluntary.
00:02:16.160 The CIA has a whole lot of ways to make something voluntary a necessity.
00:02:19.960 So it continues.
00:02:21.000 It continues today.
00:02:22.800 And a good example of that is the Total Information Awareness Program,
00:02:26.660 where AP, UPI, Washington Post, Google, Facebook, especially Google and Facebook,
00:02:32.980 signed an agreement with the CIA to censor certain information that the government didn't want out there.
00:02:38.660 Literally signed off with the CIA for propaganda to the U.S. people.
00:02:44.100 So it is in full swing.
00:02:46.920 It never went away.
00:02:48.180 Now it's just voluntary.
00:02:49.800 And they have ways of making that happen.
00:02:52.820 When was that signed?
00:02:54.180 That was 1976.
00:02:55.720 Wow.
00:02:56.340 Before the cameras, and everybody missed that last part.
00:02:59.640 Actually, it was super interesting.
00:03:00.640 I don't know if you saw this recently,
00:03:01.960 but Jeff Bezos did something that I think required a tremendous amount of humility,
00:03:05.780 or maybe these were marching orders from the CIA.
00:03:09.040 Who knows?
00:03:09.540 But he essentially wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post and said,
00:03:13.680 look, we're not endorsing a candidate because no one believes us anymore.
00:03:17.740 We're essentially just writing to ourselves.
00:03:20.420 And I thought that that really represented the collapse of the mainstream media,
00:03:25.240 when even you have someone who owns a publication like the Washington Post saying,
00:03:29.660 what are we even doing this for anymore?
00:03:31.600 We're just keeping up appearances for ourselves.
00:03:33.600 That was remarkable because the Washington Post has been the chief mockingbird since its inception.
00:03:39.780 Matter of fact, they were part of the formation the Post was with Operation Mockingbird.
00:03:43.700 And they've been the CIA's mouthpiece for decades.
00:03:46.760 And all of a sudden, this happens.
00:03:48.080 And of course, a bunch of Washington Post journalists and editors walked out
00:03:51.700 because they're so used to puppeting the government line, they left.
00:03:56.040 And that Bezos did that is just remarkable.
00:03:58.460 I think he sees the writing on the wall.
00:04:00.220 People are tired of that.
00:04:01.320 They're fed up with false news and, you know, he's a money man.
00:04:04.440 He's a businessman.
00:04:05.320 He sees that the Post is hurting.
00:04:07.340 So he came out and said that.
00:04:08.980 And he's got a $600 million contract with the CIA for monitoring cloud activities.
00:04:16.340 So...
00:04:16.940 Is that Bezos?
00:04:17.380 Bezos does, which means he probably signed a CIA secrecy agreement, which is their weapon.
00:04:22.720 So that makes it even more ironic that he would come out and cut the legs off their chief
00:04:27.980 mockingbird, essentially.
00:04:29.200 So, yeah, that was something to watch.
00:04:32.420 Or that could be, like I said, because the CIA basically said to him, no one's reading
00:04:36.560 this.
00:04:36.880 No one believes it.
00:04:37.780 So maybe just by writing this letter, people will then believe that what you put out next
00:04:42.560 is definitely going to be not something that's from the deep state.
00:04:45.460 I can't decide.
00:04:46.080 It wouldn't surprise me.
00:04:46.880 It wouldn't surprise me at all either.
00:04:48.540 So actually, let's speak about the Washington Post because I...
00:04:51.340 So I majored, I graduated, got a degree in journalism.
00:04:54.800 And it's so funny now for me to go back to my early journalism, journalist training at
00:05:00.180 university.
00:05:00.640 And they always tell you, you can trust CNN.
00:05:02.380 CNN, they basically instill in you the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, Christiana
00:05:07.080 Omnipour.
00:05:07.600 Like, this is who you want to be.
00:05:09.060 Like, if you become a successful journalist, these are the people that tell the truth.
00:05:12.800 And of course, what we learn about is the Watergate scandal.
00:05:16.100 And this is what made the Washington Post the Washington Post.
00:05:18.820 You know, Deep Throat and this person who we never knew who it was that was giving information
00:05:25.100 that ultimately led to Nixon's resignation.
00:05:28.900 Let's speak about President Nixon because I'm starting to think a lot differently about
00:05:32.960 that now.
00:05:33.840 Yes.
00:05:34.240 We have an entire chapter in our book on Bob Woodward, who I consider the chief mockingbird.
00:05:39.940 When I came out with my story to blow the whistle on what the agency had done when my family
00:05:45.780 was poisoned and a house was broken into and they painted chemicals on the ceiling, I contacted
00:05:50.620 a reporter who was going to meetings with former agency people.
00:05:54.560 And so I called him and he took the story, but he kept putting me off.
00:05:59.940 For 30 days, we went back and forth.
00:06:01.820 And I said, are you going to publish this or not?
00:06:03.300 He goes, well, what about this?
00:06:05.200 And he kept asking me questions, the answer to which would be classified information, which
00:06:09.680 means I could be wrapped up.
00:06:11.800 So finally, I said, why are you doing this?
00:06:13.900 I'm not going to tell you anything classified.
00:06:16.340 He goes, well, my editor, he's pressuring me to do it.
00:06:18.720 And he was just, he was miserable.
00:06:20.580 So that's why I'm not mentioning his name because he was just an in-between.
00:06:23.920 Well, guess who the Washington Post editor was?
00:06:26.280 It was Bob Woodward.
00:06:27.740 And it turns out the CIA, excuse me, the Washington Post went directly to the CIA and reported
00:06:31.980 my contact and exactly what I told them.
00:06:35.560 Turns out Bob Woodward was an intelligence community official connected to the CIA Naval Intelligence
00:06:42.820 going all the way back to the Nixon administration.
00:06:45.580 He briefed Alexander Haig with top secret briefings.
00:06:49.520 And he and Haig worked together as a kind of behind the scenes coup to get rid of Richard
00:06:53.840 Nixon.
00:06:54.300 Now, that may sound crazy, but we have the documentation in Twilight of the Shadow Government
00:06:59.440 to prove that that was a coup against Richard Nixon.
00:07:03.140 And that Bob Woodward himself was involved in that.
00:07:06.340 And I remember when we were on the seventh floor, when we were protecting CIA Director
00:07:10.520 William Casey, Woodward would come and visit all the time.
00:07:14.300 And William Casey hated the press, except for Bob Woodward.
00:07:17.860 And he'd always clear him right in and they'd go behind closed door meetings.
00:07:21.220 And we were all like, what the heck?
00:07:22.920 Well, it turns out Bob Woodward, with some of the information Casey gave him, publishes
00:07:28.300 Veil, The Secret Wars of the CIA.
00:07:29.920 And in that book, he says that he was able to get into Bill Casey's hospital room when
00:07:35.420 he was terminally ill and get him to admit to his involvement in the Iran-Contra affair,
00:07:41.160 which was a felony, basically.
00:07:43.080 Well, that's a complete fabrication.
00:07:45.900 I was one of the agents that occupied the hot seat outside of Casey's room.
00:07:50.100 Woodward did try to get in and the agents gracefully caught him and showed him the exit
00:07:54.580 and he never came back.
00:07:55.760 Plus, the brain tumor had affected Casey's brain, especially the area of speech.
00:08:00.340 So he couldn't even talk.
00:08:02.080 So that's complete fabrication.
00:08:03.900 Woodward has concealed all of his intelligence community jobs and positions that he had going
00:08:09.420 back to Alexander Haig.
00:08:10.820 He's concealed all of that.
00:08:11.900 He makes it look like he came into the Washington Post.
00:08:14.440 And then within six months, he gets Watergate and he gets a direct connection to the then
00:08:19.420 Deputy Director of the FBI, who turns out to be Deep Throat and was disgruntled and just
00:08:24.140 started feeding Woodward information right off the bat.
00:08:26.700 Why him?
00:08:27.580 Well, everybody knew that he had a clearance and he had connections to U.S. intelligence.
00:08:32.640 So we have an entire piece referenced and documented on Bob Woodward as the poster child of Mockingbird.
00:08:40.140 And it goes all the way back to there.
00:08:41.980 So what you're essentially alleging then, and this is very much what I've come to understand,
00:08:47.140 it makes me feel so foolish as a student to believe these almost like Hollywood production
00:08:52.080 type stories, a brave journalist running to get the information out, standing up against
00:08:55.940 the deep state.
00:08:56.800 They are the fourth estate.
00:08:58.140 It's like, no, they are the deep state.
00:09:00.020 That's right.
00:09:00.540 What you're alleging then is that what happened is a coup was executed against a duly elected
00:09:05.520 president of the United States.
00:09:06.640 Yes, and I think we pretty much prove that in the book with documentation.
00:09:10.400 And then, of course, people listening to this are going to be going, wait.
00:09:14.280 But as soon as Donald Trump got into office, the first time, Bob Woodward was the guy that
00:09:20.120 was writing a book about Donald Trump.
00:09:22.040 And just a few days ago, Donald Trump issued a statement against Bob Woodward saying that
00:09:27.400 he was issuing, that Bob Woodward was writing another book and lying about clearances that
00:09:31.880 he never had and access to the administration that he didn't have.
00:09:34.740 That would suggest to people that perhaps the state is going after Donald Trump in the
00:09:40.880 same manner.
00:09:41.460 What was Woodward's last, most recent book?
00:09:43.740 Fear.
00:09:44.340 And of course, it's always negative about Donald Trump because he's a mockingbird.
00:09:49.980 And the CIA specifically hates Donald Trump because he's rattling their cage.
00:09:55.520 And the CIA will do anything, and I mean anything, to survive, self-perpetuate itself.
00:10:00.300 So he went after Trump in his book, and he is now a well-known fabricator.
00:10:06.100 I don't think he can read any of Bob Woodward's book and believe everything that's in there.
00:10:10.700 Now, the one exception is Bill Casey leaked classified information selectively to Woodward
00:10:16.840 in the book Veil because Casey wanted that out to the American public.
00:10:20.860 And Woodward took that.
00:10:22.260 What he does is he takes things and makes himself look legitimate, and then he puts a lie
00:10:26.280 in there.
00:10:26.640 That's his M.O., and he did that in his recent book, Fear.
00:10:30.140 But it's always against anyone that challenges the intelligence community or the national
00:10:34.940 security state.
00:10:36.040 It's always an attack on that, and of course, Donald Trump.
00:10:39.600 Yeah.
00:10:40.260 You know, it's actually really interesting because Tulsi Gabbard being announced, it seems to have
00:10:45.580 rattled the cages of the deep state.
00:10:48.000 Sure has.
00:10:48.600 For me, the marker of that is I view Nikki Haley to be just an entire deep state clone.
00:10:53.720 She's always talking about war, war, war.
00:10:55.520 Let's go to war with Iran.
00:10:56.540 Let's go to war with everyone.
00:10:57.560 And she really came out against Tulsi Gabbard in a huge way.
00:11:01.400 Yeah.
00:11:02.000 And it was really interesting because everything she was saying sounded to me like, this makes
00:11:05.640 me like Tulsi Gabbard.
00:11:06.420 She's like, Tulsi Gabbard thinks that Julian Assange should be pardoned, and Edward Snowden
00:11:12.200 should be pardoned.
00:11:13.000 And I'm going, do you understand what you're actually saying to the American people?
00:11:17.120 Is that people that reveal information about the deep state should essentially be tried
00:11:23.520 and life in prison?
00:11:25.440 And she calls this protecting our interests?
00:11:27.880 Nikki's been connected to the military industrial complex for years.
00:11:31.780 She's a deep stater from the word go.
00:11:33.580 So obviously Trump knows that, the team knows that, and that's why she doesn't have any
00:11:38.040 position.
00:11:38.700 But, you know, you got to admire the poetic justice because they were, they had Tulsi
00:11:43.780 Gabbard on a terrorist watch list.
00:11:46.080 They were following her wherever she went for no reason other than her opinions on Ukraine
00:11:51.920 and other things.
00:11:53.240 And now all of a sudden she's in charge of them as over DHS.
00:11:57.420 I mean, you got to love that.
00:11:59.000 And that's the kind of thing we need is people from the outside like that.
00:12:02.840 Especially people that, that have been attacked by the shadow government deep state that are
00:12:08.100 now going back in to really clean some house.
00:12:10.420 First time in my entire career, I've seen that this actually possible and somebody pinched
00:12:17.220 me and wake me up because I think I'm dreaming, but it's going to be a battle from now on.
00:12:22.440 Get rid of these deep staters, especially in the CIA and their, their bureaucrats.
00:12:27.280 It's going to be a war.
00:12:29.160 So we should be excited, but at the same time, really concerned and keep our eye on these
00:12:33.940 people because they're going to try to stop this.
00:12:35.780 Right.
00:12:35.940 And I do believe that some people around Trump are, are obviously deep state plants because
00:12:40.440 the fact that Mike Pompeo's name was actually being floated.
00:12:44.060 Yeah.
00:12:44.440 And that was real.
00:12:45.220 I know people in his inner circle, they were shocked that people were trying to push him.
00:12:49.820 And these are the people that gave tons of money to his campaign and trying to push him.
00:12:53.460 Could you imagine to name Mike Pompeo?
00:12:55.740 Could you get anybody that is more of a deep state plant than Mike Pompeo?
00:13:00.980 He is, they're not even a plant, he is the deep state.
00:13:02.980 Well, it's funny because when, when he was first appointed to the CIA, I remember I turned
00:13:07.180 to my wife and I said, if, if he's an honest man, he will not be there for long.
00:13:11.640 They're going to turn him.
00:13:13.140 Well, what did Pompeo do?
00:13:14.380 And he ruined his political career.
00:13:16.160 He put a assassination order out for Julian Assange.
00:13:20.240 And then he called Tucker Carlton and threatened him with arrest for talking about the Assange
00:13:25.540 case.
00:13:25.780 This is Mike Pompeo.
00:13:27.940 And they, he either was already deep state.
00:13:31.640 The CIA has a wonderful way of turning people when they get in there.
00:13:35.080 Trust me, I know.
00:13:36.540 And the upper 20% of the CIA, they do not believe in democracy.
00:13:40.980 They do not believe in the U.S. Constitution.
00:13:42.740 They believe in the CIA and its global juggernaut staying in control and perpetuating itself.
00:13:50.380 That's all they believe in.
00:13:51.520 And some of them, and I've worked for some, they're basically psychotic.
00:13:55.500 They're narcissists.
00:13:57.000 And so Pompeo got in there and whether he was coerced into doing that by Gina Haspel, who
00:14:03.880 is a shadow government deep stater from the word go.
00:14:06.620 She's the one that destroyed the torture tapes, videotapes.
00:14:09.580 And it wasn't just waterboarding.
00:14:11.560 It was worse.
00:14:13.020 John Brennan was operating through Deputy Director Haspel against Pompeo when Pompeo was director.
00:14:20.300 And so the under bureaucracy on the upper levels of the CIA was working against Pompeo while
00:14:25.800 he was there.
00:14:26.380 That's going to happen again.
00:14:27.520 And if Ratcliffe takes over, he's going to need a team of defense people in the administration
00:14:33.340 behind him because they're going to try to put their steely knives in his back.
00:14:37.840 And he absolutely needs to appoint the right deputy director underneath him that will go
00:14:43.460 with the reforms that the administration has ordered him to do.
00:14:46.840 Because if that's not the case, then the DDCI will undermine him.
00:14:49.600 They have a whole global monstrous network to protect, and much of it illegal and criminal,
00:14:55.940 including drug running and other things that they don't want coming out.
00:14:59.960 So you bring a reformer like Ratcliffe in, you better be careful.
00:15:04.220 And you better have outsiders come in to support him, the chief operating officer and others
00:15:08.800 that will make sure that bureaucracy doesn't try to undermine the new director.
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00:16:04.300 Okay, on the topic of turning people once they go in, because we have seen this happen so
00:16:09.880 many times, good guys gone bad.
00:16:12.300 What are their mechanisms for doing that?
00:16:15.060 I've heard people are fearful that they'll drop kiddie porn on their laptops, or maybe
00:16:20.200 they find a family member, and there's some, really, a blackmail operation.
00:16:26.260 What happens?
00:16:27.760 Well, I mean, if you humbly look at my case, they tried to erase me by placing me, and sadly,
00:16:33.760 my family is collateral damage in a very badly poisoned house that had mycotoxins leaking
00:16:39.560 out of the ceiling.
00:16:40.880 Now, mycotoxins are what Saddam Hussein used on the troops called yellow rain.
00:16:45.920 It's a very deadly neurotoxin, and I found it only shows up under a black light.
00:16:52.040 And as this was all happening, and my family was deathly ill, I hit the ceiling, and I found
00:16:56.820 these mycotoxins.
00:16:57.960 And of course, later, while we were out of the house, they broke in, and I hit it again,
00:17:01.020 and there's big brushstrokes of some chemical that was invisible they painted over it.
00:17:05.440 So, oh, they have every way to try to get rid of you.
00:17:09.000 And then there is the secrecy agreement, which is their weapon.
00:17:12.280 Anybody, for example, MKUltra, people involved in that, if they've signed a CIA secrecy agreement,
00:17:17.560 they will sit them down, and they will say, this is what you signed and agreed to.
00:17:20.940 If you reveal anything classified, whether you like it or not, you're going to be charged,
00:17:25.640 and you're going to go to prison.
00:17:27.020 And that's the weapon of fear.
00:17:28.400 They tried to use it on me, didn't work, because I answered to a higher authority.
00:17:32.620 But they've used it down through the years to silence people from coming out with some
00:17:36.320 of these perverse and illegal operations.
00:17:39.380 So essentially, the people just value their freedom, and they just go, okay, I'm just going
00:17:44.300 to play along with the deep state.
00:17:45.760 Yeah.
00:17:46.040 And a lot of these people go in, and they have families to support.
00:17:49.060 It's their health insurance.
00:17:50.060 It's their retirement.
00:17:51.300 You know, and if they don't play by the rules, they lose all of that, and they're financially
00:17:55.400 destroyed, which they, of course, tried to do to me also.
00:17:59.520 And they have an entire procedure they've developed over the last 40 years, since Gary
00:18:04.540 Webb, even if you know the story of Gary Webb.
00:18:06.840 They destroyed his career, ruined his journalistic career.
00:18:09.880 He's lost his marriage, his finances, and then wound up in a hotel room with two bullets
00:18:13.900 in his head because he reported on CIA drug running.
00:18:16.800 And he wrote the book, Dark Alliance.
00:18:18.600 That is a classic case of how the CIA will, their most favorite form of assassination is
00:18:25.480 pushing someone to suicide.
00:18:27.480 And then that gives them the doctrine of plausible deniability.
00:18:31.100 And that comes from National Security Council directed 10-2 in 1948, where the CIA can do
00:18:36.560 anything it wants, sabotage, subversion, economic warfare, assassination.
00:18:41.160 It can do anything it wants as long as there's plausible denial for the U.S. government.
00:18:45.620 They can deny any involvement.
00:18:47.400 The CIA can do anything it wants.
00:18:48.900 Now, imagine that.
00:18:50.060 With their $39 billion-plus budget and the power of secrecy they have, the things that
00:18:55.060 they have done and are doing are unconscionable.
00:18:58.120 Let's talk about Julian Assange, because it has been reported many times, Zucker Carlson
00:19:03.160 has said this many times, that Mike Pompeo did call for his assassination, which is just
00:19:09.620 shocking to hear that.
00:19:10.600 Yeah, it is shocking.
00:19:10.820 What is it about Julian Assange that motivated them?
00:19:16.600 I mean, obviously, WikiLeaks, he created WikiLeaks, he had all these documents.
00:19:20.440 What was in the documents that you think caused the deepest fear for the deep state?
00:19:25.900 Well, the deepest fear, of course, was the emails that he revealed between the Department
00:19:29.000 of State and other officials and some of the dirty deeds that they were doing.
00:19:31.700 Of course, there's the videotape of them killing those innocent people, two of which
00:19:34.900 were reporters and photographers.
00:19:37.260 What the CIA fears is exposure.
00:19:40.880 And Julian Assange was starting to expose the whole thing, which jeopardizes the CIA's
00:19:47.380 existence, which, as I mentioned, will do anything to keep from happening.
00:19:51.900 So Julian Assange is public enemy number one because he challenges the system of secrecy,
00:19:58.040 and that's where their power is.
00:19:59.780 That's why he's such a hero, frankly.
00:20:01.260 And that's why people love him so much, because he stood up in their face, and he said, this
00:20:06.280 is what you're doing.
00:20:07.080 And he showed everybody, just the tip of the iceberg, really, what they're doing, and they
00:20:12.440 will not have that.
00:20:13.720 It is shocking that there are people who still believe, and obviously, I think now it's a
00:20:18.540 smaller fraction of people than it was before, but who genuinely believe that there is not
00:20:23.060 propaganda in the West, and that they're educated when they read the New York Times, and
00:20:27.380 they are educated about issues, you know, historical and present.
00:20:31.260 Because they're reading the Washington Post, and they're a part of this sort of elite people
00:20:36.280 who know not to give in to misinformation and disinformation, and even the overusage
00:20:42.380 of those terms, obviously, to me, feels just like a Project Mockingbird, you know, conspiracy
00:20:47.160 theorist, and things of that nature.
00:20:49.540 And it's like, how much information could there be out there before these people are willing
00:20:54.560 to accept that your government is lying about virtually everything?
00:20:59.140 Virtually everything.
00:21:00.240 Virtually everything.
00:21:00.840 And a small group of elites run the entire world, in my viewpoint.
00:21:05.560 Yes.
00:21:06.460 And even Pompeo said, he told, Bobby Kennedy's a friend of mine, and as a matter of fact,
00:21:10.360 Bobby was kind of encouraging me to write this book.
00:21:14.300 Pompeo told Bobby Kennedy, after he came out, he regretted not doing the reforms that the
00:21:20.680 CIA needed.
00:21:21.600 Well, not only did he not do them, he instigated and carried out an assassination program.
00:21:27.460 So this is the way that it works today, one of several ways.
00:21:32.820 One is, for example, Google.
00:21:35.440 The CIA funded, along with DARPA and NSA, what was called the Massive Digital Data System,
00:21:41.780 or MDDS, which was a massive system of surveillance to gather up all the information on everybody
00:21:47.860 in America on the internet backbone, and then be able to collate that into birds of a feather,
00:21:53.280 identify groups that were maybe threatening to the U.S. or what have you.
00:21:57.180 Well, what Larry Page and Sergey Brin did was they, after it was done, they took MDDS out,
00:22:01.880 and they turned it into Google.
00:22:03.720 So Google is using the MDDS background developed by the CIN, NSA, and DARPA.
00:22:08.880 That is what Google is now.
00:22:10.340 And you can see how they're censoring conservative speech.
00:22:12.640 They just censored my interview, great interview, with Ken Matthews, simply because we're talking
00:22:18.540 about this sort of thing.
00:22:20.260 But there's a quid pro quo amongst, even now, between the editors of these major news networks,
00:22:26.500 especially CNN, MSNBC, and even some conservative news networks, where as long as they do not do
00:22:35.640 any investigation of the CIA and report anything negative about the CIA, the CIA will leave them
00:22:41.640 alone, and they'll actually feed them stories from anonymous sources, feed them stories so
00:22:46.340 they'll be the first ones to break it.
00:22:47.880 The moment that any outlet really does an investigation of the CIA, that is cut off immediately, and
00:22:55.160 the agency starts putting out disinformation about that network.
00:22:58.520 And any journalist like Gary Webb, who dares to investigate the CIA, they'll be fired, their
00:23:04.600 career will be ruined, and they all know it.
00:23:06.400 And when you think about it, when's the last time you saw any major mainstream media news
00:23:10.640 outlet do a serious investigation of the CIA?
00:23:13.480 Maybe never.
00:23:14.800 Well, there's a reason for that.
00:23:16.060 They know that their survival and their career depends on not doing that.
00:23:20.420 And that's why the new programs, yours and others, they didn't count on people like you
00:23:26.100 and me coming out and saying, this is what they're doing.
00:23:29.540 And now with new news programs, they're freaking out.
00:23:33.980 Yeah, they are.
00:23:34.840 And you can see they're starting to have that conversation about podcasting and misinformation
00:23:38.080 and how are we going to get a wrangle on this?
00:23:40.260 And I think it's just going to be very difficult for them, especially within America, because
00:23:44.780 too many people are awake now.
00:23:46.320 And what we've been able to prove is they will find that information.
00:23:49.640 They'll go around.
00:23:50.420 If you ban me from YouTube, they're going to find me on Spotify.
00:23:52.840 You ban me from Spotify, they'll find me on Apple.
00:23:55.120 So one of the things that we got a lot of people asking me to ask you about was Benghazi.
00:24:02.560 Now, before we get there, and you guys, please just allow me to get through this.
00:24:05.780 I do want to read this to my audience.
00:24:08.180 I'm going to skim through it.
00:24:09.260 But it was a speech that Muammar Gaddafi gave.
00:24:13.060 It was at the 64th UN General Assembly in 2009.
00:24:18.820 Major, major piece of my own awakening, having read this and realized suddenly that I have
00:24:23.940 no idea what the hell our government is ever doing overseas and virtually everything they've
00:24:28.120 told us has been a lie.
00:24:29.740 So I'm going to get through this, skim through this speech, get his reaction on it, and then
00:24:33.500 we're going to kind of go through everything that Muammar Gaddafi brings up.
00:24:37.740 Now, I want to be very clear here.
00:24:39.400 I don't agree with everything in the speech.
00:24:41.100 Actually, this speech, I think, really is more questions than answers.
00:24:46.420 And just to kind of put it in context for you guys listening, essentially, he's standing
00:24:50.900 up before the General Assembly in 2009 and just saying, why are we pretending that the
00:24:56.820 United Nations is about giving all of the nations equal power when really we know that
00:25:01.520 just a few nations have any power here?
00:25:03.660 And it's the UK and it's the United States and it's Israel and everyone else is kind of
00:25:08.080 just playing pretend.
00:25:08.800 Okay, so we start speaking about just the UN Charter in general.
00:25:13.920 The preamble of the Charter states that armed force shall not be used, save in common interest.
00:25:18.660 That is the preamble that we agreed to and signed and we joined the United Nations because
00:25:22.260 we wanted the Charter to reflect that.
00:25:24.420 It says that armed force shall only be used in the common interest of all nations.
00:25:28.460 But what has happened since then?
00:25:29.680 The preamble also states that if armed force is used, it must be a United Nations force.
00:25:45.000 Since the establishment of the United Nations in 1945, if there is an act of aggression by
00:25:49.620 one country against another, the entire United Nations should deter and stop that act.
00:25:54.560 If a country, Libya for instance, were to exhibit aggression against France, then the entire
00:25:59.960 organization would respond because France is a sovereign state member of the United Nations
00:26:03.520 and we share the collective responsibility to protect the sovereignty of all nations.
00:26:07.640 However, 65 aggressive wars have taken place without any United Nations action to prevent
00:26:14.260 them.
00:26:15.560 We are 192 nations and countries and we are like the Speaker's Corner in London's Hyde Park.
00:26:21.000 We just speak and nobody implements our decisions.
00:26:23.960 We are mere decoration without any real substance.
00:26:27.280 At present, the Security Council is security feudalism, political feudalism for those with permanent
00:26:31.900 seats, protected by them and used against us.
00:26:34.300 It should be called not the Security Council, but the Terror Council.
00:26:38.540 We should not live in the shadow of this injustice and terror.
00:26:41.920 Superpowers have complicated global interests and they use the veto to protect those interests.
00:26:46.800 For example, in the Security Council, they use the power of the United Nations to protect
00:26:50.520 their interests and to terrorize and intimidate the third world, causing it to live under the
00:26:55.220 shadow of terror.
00:26:56.400 From the beginning, since it was established in 1945, the Security Council has failed to provide
00:27:00.940 security.
00:27:01.520 On the contrary, it has provided terror and sanctions.
00:27:05.040 Sixty-five wars have broken out, either fighting among small countries or wars of aggression
00:27:09.220 waged against us by superpowers.
00:27:13.220 American presidents used to threaten us with all manner of weapons, saying that they would
00:27:17.460 send us Desert Storm, Grapes of Wrath, Rolling Thunder and poisonous roses for Libyan children.
00:27:23.220 That was their approach.
00:27:24.700 American presidents used to threaten us with operations such as Rolling Thunder sent to Vietnam,
00:27:28.940 Desert Storm sent to Iraq, Musketeer sent to Egypt in 1956, even though America opposed
00:27:35.440 it, and the poisonous roses visited upon Libyan children by Reagan.
00:27:39.360 Can you imagine?
00:27:40.660 One would have thought that presidents of a large country with a permanent seat on the
00:27:43.760 Security Council and the right of veto would have protected us and sent us peace.
00:27:47.540 And what do we get instead?
00:27:48.440 Another matter that should be voted on in the General Assembly is that of compensation for
00:28:04.880 countries that were colonized so as to prevent the colonization of a continent,
00:28:08.280 the usurpation of its rights, and the pillaging of its wealth from happening again.
00:28:12.880 Why are Africans going to Europe?
00:28:14.640 Why are Asians going to Europe?
00:28:15.880 Why are Latin Americans going to Europe?
00:28:17.880 It is because Europe colonized those peoples and stole their material and human resources
00:28:21.620 of Africa, Asia, and Latin America, our oil, minerals, uranium, gold, and diamonds,
00:28:26.320 the fruit, the vegetables, the livestock, and the people, and used them.
00:28:31.100 Can we trust the Security Council or not?
00:28:33.700 Can we trust the United Nations or not?
00:28:35.460 We must look into and investigate the bombing of Somalia, Somalia as a United Nations member
00:28:40.840 state.
00:28:41.740 Then there is the former Yugoslavia.
00:28:43.840 No country was as peaceful as Yugoslavia, constructed step by step and piece by piece
00:28:48.160 after being destroyed by Hitler.
00:28:49.940 We destroyed it as if we were doing the same job as Hitler.
00:28:53.480 The invasion of Iraq was a violation of the United Nations charter.
00:28:57.120 It was done without any justification by superpowers with permanent seats on the Security Council.
00:29:02.080 Iraq is an independent country and a member state of a General Assembly.
00:29:05.020 How could those countries attack Iraq?
00:29:07.620 As provided in the charter, the United Nations should have intervened and stopped the attack.
00:29:12.080 There was a total massacre or genocide.
00:29:14.900 More than 1.5 million Iraqis were killed.
00:29:18.080 We want to bring the Iraqi file before the International Criminal Court, the ICC.
00:29:22.740 If the court is unable to accommodate us, then we should not accept it.
00:29:25.540 Either it is meant for all of us, large or small, or we should not accept it and we should
00:29:29.900 reject it.
00:29:30.700 The wars that took place after the establishment of the United Nations, why did they occur?
00:29:36.180 Where was the Security Council?
00:29:37.540 Where was the charter?
00:29:38.400 Where was the United Nations?
00:29:40.640 There should be investigations and judicial intervention.
00:29:43.620 Why have there been massacres?
00:29:45.140 We can start with the Korean War because it took place after the establishment of the United
00:29:48.220 Nations.
00:29:48.740 How did a war break out and cause millions of victims?
00:29:51.800 Nuclear weapons could have been used in that war.
00:29:53.540 Those who are responsible for causing the war should be tried and should pay compensation
00:29:57.640 and damages.
00:29:59.200 Then we come to the Swayze Canal War of 1956.
00:30:01.960 That file should also be opened.
00:30:04.080 Three countries with permanent seats on the Security Council and with the right of veto
00:30:07.300 in the Council attacked a member state of this General Assembly.
00:30:11.840 In a country that was a sovereign state, Egypt was attacked.
00:30:14.600 Its army was destroyed.
00:30:15.760 Thousands of Egyptians were killed and many Egyptian towns and entities were destroyed, all
00:30:20.200 because Egypt wanted to nationalize the canal.
00:30:23.720 How could such a thing have happened in the era of the United Nations and its charter?
00:30:27.600 There were three million victims of that war.
00:30:30.040 During 12 days, more bombs were dropped than during four years of the Second World War.
00:30:34.540 It was a fiercer war and it took place after the establishment of the United Nations.
00:30:39.020 Then there was the war in Granada.
00:30:40.400 The country was invaded even though it was a member state.
00:30:42.480 It was attacked by 5,000 warships, 7,000 troops and dozen of military aircraft.
00:30:48.320 It is the smallest country in the world.
00:30:50.660 This occurred after the establishment of the United Nations and the Security Council.
00:30:54.260 And the president of Granada, Mr. Maurice Bishop, was assassinated.
00:30:57.840 How could that have happened with impunity?
00:31:00.740 Regarding Afghanistan, who says that if the Taliban form a government,
00:31:04.340 they would possess intercontinental missiles or the kind of airplanes that hit New York?
00:31:08.640 Did those airplanes take off from Afghanistan or Iraq?
00:31:11.120 No, they took off from American airports.
00:31:13.520 So why is Afghanistan being struck?
00:31:15.700 The terrorists were not Afghans or Taliban or Iraqis.
00:31:18.940 Why are we silent?
00:31:20.640 As president of the General Assembly, Mr. Ali Trekkie should open an investigation of the assassination files in addition to the war files.
00:31:29.080 Who killed Patrice Lumumba and why?
00:31:31.700 We merely want record of it.
00:31:33.720 We want to know how an African leader, a liberator, came to be assassinated.
00:31:37.020 Who killed him?
00:31:37.680 We want our sons to be able to read the history of how Patrice Lumumba, the hero of Congo's liberation struggle, was assassinated.
00:31:44.780 Then there is the assassination of the United States President Kennedy in 1963.
00:31:48.860 We want to know who killed him and why.
00:31:51.420 There was somebody called Lee Harvey Oswald, who was then killed by one Jack Ruby.
00:31:55.460 Why did he kill him?
00:31:56.940 Jack Ruby, an Israeli, killed Lee Harvey Oswald, who killed Kennedy.
00:32:00.700 Why did this Israeli kill Kennedy's killer?
00:32:04.260 Then Jack Ruby, the killer of the killer of Kennedy, died in mysterious circumstances before he could be tried.
00:32:09.320 We must open the files.
00:32:10.880 The whole world knows that Kennedy wanted to investigate the Israeli nuclear reactor.
00:32:15.780 This involves international peace and security and weapons of mass destruction.
00:32:20.300 That is why we should open this file.
00:32:22.740 Then there is the assassination of Martin Luther King and the black reverend and human rights activists.
00:32:26.900 His assassination was a plot, and we should know why he was killed and who killed him.
00:32:33.460 Why is it that Iraqi prisoners of war can be sentenced to death?
00:32:37.300 When Iraq was invaded and the president of Iraq was taken, he was a prisoner of war.
00:32:41.240 He should not have been tried.
00:32:42.180 He should not have been hanged.
00:32:43.540 When the war was over, he should have been released.
00:32:45.880 We want to know why a prisoner of war was tried.
00:32:48.200 Who sentenced the president of Iraq to death?
00:32:50.560 Is there an answer to that question?
00:32:52.460 We know the identity of the judge who tried him.
00:32:54.340 As to who tied the noose around the president's neck on the day of sacrifice and hanged him.
00:33:00.240 Those people wore masks.
00:33:02.140 Do you know what people are saying?
00:33:03.220 They are saying that the faces behind those masks were the president of the United States
00:33:06.320 and the prime minister of the United Kingdom.
00:33:08.180 That it was they who put the president of Iraq to death.
00:33:11.720 Why don't those executioners not unmask their faces?
00:33:15.960 Why do we not know their ranks?
00:33:18.240 The United Nations is duty-bound to answer these questions.
00:33:20.960 This is unprecedented in the history of war.
00:33:25.260 It was sodomy and it was an unprecedented sin never before committed by past aggressors or invaders.
00:33:30.220 Prisoners of war are soldiers.
00:33:32.500 But these people were raped in the prison by a state, a permanent member of the Security Council.
00:33:37.460 I mean, he just goes on and on and goes through all of these things and then ends it by asking about viruses.
00:33:43.240 He says, today there is a swine flu.
00:33:44.620 Perhaps tomorrow, tomorrow there will be a fish flu because sometimes we produce viruses by controlling them.
00:33:51.120 It is a commercial business.
00:33:53.020 Capitalist companies produce viruses so that they can generate and then sell vaccinations.
00:33:59.040 This is very shameful and it is poor ethics.
00:34:02.500 Needless to say, Muammar Gaddafi was then murdered and sodomized.
00:34:08.440 He basically right there signed his death warrant.
00:34:12.660 And he probably knew this, but the organization behind all of that, most if not all of that, is three letters.
00:34:22.360 CIA, covert operations.
00:34:25.220 And Gaddafi was even trying to reach out to the United States and establish relationships.
00:34:30.820 And he was giving us intelligence.
00:34:32.980 He was acting as an intelligence gatherer for the CIA and the U.S. government.
00:34:36.680 That was his first fatal mistake in terms of the shadow government, the CIA's covert action arm.
00:34:44.760 The second was he decided he wanted to nationalize his currency and no longer be bound to the U.S. or the U.S. standard or the U.S. dollar.
00:34:53.640 And that was the beginning of his end.
00:34:55.680 That is a classic case of a CIA covert operation with plausible deniability to get rid of a leader that was not playing by the rules and not handing over its minerals and its oil, which are usually involved, and then getting rid of the U.S. dollar as the currency.
00:35:15.240 And in the terms of the dark side of our government, he had to go.
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00:36:06.280 Okay, I want to slow down what you're talking about in terms of the currency because this is a really important element of people needing to understand how these wars get started.
00:36:14.100 So Libya, obviously, African nation.
00:36:17.620 Muammar Gaddafi was the head of it.
00:36:19.240 You are correct.
00:36:19.980 He was very much cooperating with the United States, cooperating with the West.
00:36:24.360 And suddenly he starts to realize that this is not even power.
00:36:28.560 This cooperation is not even stands before the UN.
00:36:32.500 He was a member, member state of the United Nations, and starts asking questions.
00:36:37.080 And basically, Libya was on the up and up with him as leader.
00:36:43.820 But when you say he wanted to nationalize the currency and to no longer be subject to the U.S. dollar, what do you mean by that?
00:36:52.760 What I mean by that is he would no longer be under the thumb of the U.S. and the U.S. currency and being controlled by the U.S. dollar and Wall Street, which is, of course, the CIA's right arm.
00:37:05.660 All of those knew that that was going to cut off their power if he nationalized his currency, which he had every right to do.
00:37:13.700 But it was going to cut off the U.S.'s major power, especially the CIA's major power, which and they were communicating with him, which they had over him.
00:37:21.900 And that was his death knell.
00:37:23.380 And, of course, once again, plausible denial in that national security directive tend to, in 1948, as long as the U.S. government could deny killing Gaddafi, of course, he was a madman.
00:37:36.680 That was the term.
00:37:37.900 And then he wasn't killed by the U.S. or the CIA.
00:37:40.380 He was killed by his own rebels who took him out because there was a revolution.
00:37:46.060 No.
00:37:46.500 As a matter of fact, the Gaddafi regime and Hillary Clinton was in large part behind this, but the Gaddafi regime has now turned into a terrorist state.
00:37:55.040 The CIA seems to have a track record of doing that, staging a coup and then turning that country, that area into a terrorist nation.
00:38:03.600 They created al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
00:38:06.760 The Taliban, of course, now has all of our arms and weapons.
00:38:10.600 They created Sukarno in Indonesia is a horrible one.
00:38:14.060 And President Sukarno was communicating with John F. Kennedy, and for the first time, they wanted a Muslim and American union, and Kennedy was going to visit Sukarno.
00:38:22.400 The CIA staged a coup, overthrew President Sukarno, and it resulted in the death of 500,000 to a million Indonesian civilians.
00:38:31.160 Do you think people forget that sort of thing?
00:38:33.120 No, they don't.
00:38:34.120 So over and over in Iraq, which was based on false intelligence, and yet they gave George Tenet the Presidential Medal of Freedom for doing it.
00:38:42.920 In Iraq, we created ISIS.
00:38:46.020 We created the so-called moderate Free Syrian Army, which has, in their declaration, to establish a global Islamic caliphate.
00:38:54.900 The CIA created them.
00:38:56.760 And probably the oldest example, most powerful one, I think, is Iran.
00:39:02.000 Iran decided, a democratically elected government, decided that, well, we're giving our oil for free to the United States.
00:39:08.960 And why are we doing that?
00:39:10.400 I mean, we want to provide for our own people.
00:39:11.920 We want to nationalize our oil.
00:39:13.700 So they did.
00:39:15.560 And the CIA immediately went in, staged a coup, overthrew the democratically elected government, put in the puppet Shah, who had a few decks missing, a few cards missing from his deck.
00:39:25.460 Rather, he was just a puppet, and they knew it.
00:39:27.180 So they overthrew him.
00:39:28.380 And now what do we have?
00:39:29.760 The chief state sponsor of terrorism in the world.
00:39:33.300 And it all started back with the CIA's coup.
00:39:36.460 Then we look at Ukraine, if I may.
00:39:38.720 John Brennan was making, former CIA director, was making secret trips to Ukraine in 2014, and he helped organize and stage the coup.
00:39:47.740 He wasn't the only one.
00:39:49.040 McCain was.
00:39:49.720 McCain was all in there, and Lindsey Graham.
00:39:53.400 Now, he changed his spots.
00:39:54.780 As soon as McCain died, Lindsey Graham became a Trump supporter.
00:39:59.500 So what's going on with him?
00:40:00.980 That's a big question.
00:40:03.920 But they overthrew a democratically elected government, put in Zelensky, the CIA's puppet, violated an agreement that the United States had signed with Russia that we would not have a NATO ally within a certain distance from their border.
00:40:17.540 We signed that.
00:40:18.220 America signed that.
00:40:19.240 Well, Ukraine comes out with the sponsorship of the CIA and says, well, we want Ukraine to be part of NATO, and provoked that whole thing.
00:40:26.160 And just like when the CIA went behind JFK's back through Alan Dulles, put us on the verge of nuclear annihilation.
00:40:32.280 Here we are back again.
00:40:33.620 The CIA stages a coup, puts in a puppet.
00:40:36.640 Russia tries to defend itself.
00:40:38.240 And I'm not justifying Vladimir Putin.
00:40:40.720 He's murdered a lot of people.
00:40:42.900 But provoked Putin to come in.
00:40:44.760 And now, once again, we're on the verge of nuclear annihilation, just like the CIA did with the Bay of Pigs under JFK.
00:40:53.120 The CIA does not care about human life.
00:40:56.660 It doesn't care about peace at all.
00:40:59.020 It cares about winning and perpetuating and expanding itself.
00:41:03.380 And that's not an exaggeration.
00:41:05.440 And really what it comes down to is, again, that petrodollar, when you have, if they can't control your nation, they're just going to collapse it.
00:41:11.320 And that should be very clear to everyone.
00:41:13.480 If you look at the pattern of the nations that tried to just have their own currency, suddenly we went to war with these people.
00:41:18.640 They were told that their leaders were terrorists.
00:41:20.500 I mean, it's a very clear pattern of that happening as soon as they start speaking about it.
00:41:24.880 And so I knew that that war was coming as soon as the BRICS nations started to say, oh, well, you know what?
00:41:31.320 Okay, we're just not going to play ball with America anymore.
00:41:34.220 And they begin sanctioning Russia.
00:41:36.280 A very important piece of history, actually, that people don't know is obviously we armed the insurgents, caused the uprising in Libya.
00:41:44.580 Obviously, he did sign his death warrant with this speech, said way too much.
00:41:48.480 And they needed to make sure that he was, the speech never really made its way to Americans.
00:41:52.300 But when he was killed, they did record him on tape being sodomized.
00:42:02.520 And that tape was sent around the world.
00:42:05.320 And it is a matter of history that one individual who watched that tape apparently on repeat over and over and over again was Gaddafi's friend, Vladimir Putin.
00:42:15.240 And I believe that might have been the single greatest contributor to Vladimir Putin saying, I will never trust the West again because he watched somebody who played with the West, follow the West's rules, and then basically called them out for basic unfairness and then was murdered in such a graphic way.
00:42:34.140 And that's exactly what happened.
00:42:35.080 And if you remember Putin's speech that he came out, I think it was two years ago, decrying the moral depravity of the West and how the West had sunk morally into depravity and the U.S. government had become this master of the world and that Russia was not going to degrade itself morally.
00:42:52.720 Essentially, Russia is 80% Christians, I think, orthodox Christians.
00:42:56.480 And he was decrying the moral decay of the United States.
00:43:00.920 So Vladimir Putin is CIA enemy numero uno because he won't play by the rules.
00:43:07.640 And he knows them.
00:43:09.180 He knows how they operate.
00:43:10.360 He knows the number of things that they have done.
00:43:12.660 So what does the CIA have to do with plausible deniability?
00:43:16.060 They have to get rid of Putin any way they can.
00:43:18.340 Any way they can.
00:43:19.380 And they put us, as I mentioned earlier, on the verge of nuclear annihilation again.
00:43:24.660 Exactly.
00:43:25.080 And so when we talk about the fact that then you think about, OK, we violated what our prior promises and guarantees that NATO would not expand one inch eastward, whatever, we just do whatever we want.
00:43:37.080 And now they're really testing him.
00:43:39.040 You've got Zelensky, who's obviously a puppet to the West and doing whatever they want, mass killing all these Christians, which is another element of this, I think, is that we're always attacking strong Christian nations.
00:43:49.460 Which begs the question, what's really going on?
00:43:52.960 Because we get to Syria and nobody knows what the hell America is doing in Syria.
00:43:58.660 And we're told that Assad is a terrorist.
00:44:00.840 But if you listen to what Assad is saying, he is saying that Israel and America are mass murdering Christians.
00:44:07.980 You look at all of these old Christian nations and suddenly you're going, why are all of these old Christian nations constantly being attacked and we're being told stories that just don't make sense?
00:44:18.840 What is the United States and Israel doing in Syria?
00:44:21.440 What is the answer to that?
00:44:22.560 Why Christians?
00:44:24.520 I remember the Soviet Union made a statement that we could control all of our entire population except the Christians.
00:44:31.360 And they had to put them in prison and in gulags.
00:44:33.660 And I remember 1994 when I was in the CIA, we ordered into a conference room.
00:44:38.060 We all filed in.
00:44:38.980 There's about 30 of us.
00:44:39.940 And our division chief starts off by saying, now, don't get mad at me.
00:44:43.380 I'm just the messenger.
00:44:44.340 This comes down from the director of the CIA.
00:44:47.400 You can no longer say Merry Christmas in any CIA office space.
00:44:52.020 You cannot have a manger scene on your desk or on your door or you will face administrative penalties.
00:44:58.200 And the sad part was only two of us, our jaws dropped.
00:45:01.140 Like, what?
00:45:03.040 And the CIA was actively against Christians and they used DEI as a method to suppress them.
00:45:08.960 And I remember it was Christmas Eve and I walked out.
00:45:10.820 You know, I thought about this, prayed about this overnight.
00:45:12.820 And I said, oh, no, you don't.
00:45:14.400 So I walked out on New Year's Eve and I turned around to everybody.
00:45:17.060 I said, good night.
00:45:18.260 And by the way, Merry Christmas.
00:45:19.760 I'm like, you know, there is a line you don't cross.
00:45:22.740 Well, there was an outrage from the CIA populace.
00:45:26.140 And as evil people always do, when they got resistance, they backed off and said, well, never mind.
00:45:31.760 You know, but it has been Christianity because the Christians are the only ones that will not answer to tyranny.
00:45:37.560 We believe in God and a higher power and we will not be manipulated by a tyrannical regime.
00:45:44.680 And that's why Christians are despised around the world, including in this previous administration.
00:45:49.260 My goodness.
00:45:49.980 And going back to Obama, how they attacked Christians and eliminated the religious freedom post at the Department of State and on and on and on it went.
00:45:58.100 But that's the reason.
00:45:59.520 And even in Iraq, once I began examining things through the lens of Christianity, things got very interesting.
00:46:05.940 Like just things that we do historically, the people that were killing.
00:46:09.280 So these old, the oldest Christian villages in Iraq completely obliterated by the United States.
00:46:13.660 What's going on right now in Azerbaijan, which is crazy because you have Israel supplying the arms to murder Christians.
00:46:21.340 It's always Christians that are being mass murdered.
00:46:23.400 And it's why I absolutely refuse to support what's happening.
00:46:28.860 I'm not going to allow Russia.
00:46:30.880 You don't have to support Vladimir Putin, but I will not support the mass killing of Russian Christians.
00:46:34.780 No excuse for it.
00:46:35.400 And you know, Hiroshima was the only city in Japan that was largely a Christian city.
00:46:40.920 In Nagasaki, they dropped that bomb 300 feet.
00:46:43.860 And these were innocent people that had nothing to do with the war.
00:46:46.680 And the Japanese had already started brokering a surrender.
00:46:50.000 They'd witnessed a nuclear blast.
00:46:51.620 They were terrified.
00:46:52.560 And they wanted to work through peace negotiations.
00:46:54.880 We're in the middle of that when they dropped the bomb on innocent people, which I think most students in their history books, they don't hear that part.
00:47:03.540 But once again, it's this monstrous global juggernaut of the CIA and the shadow government.
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00:48:29.460 So what's really interesting is I think people around the world think, believe that Americans are somehow not suffering as well.
00:48:36.600 I mean, we are seeing the complete decline of our nation.
00:48:39.080 You can see this everywhere, the education system.
00:48:41.480 And I really think that America is just a slave state.
00:48:44.380 It's like we have a lot of bodies.
00:48:45.640 They can send people to die overseas, like I said, and nothing is getting better here.
00:48:50.880 Nothing has gotten better here, in my opinion, since the establishment of the United Nations.
00:48:54.160 So it begs the question, what nation is on the incline?
00:48:59.160 What nation is actually thriving because of this globalist environment?
00:49:03.400 I don't understand if no place is getting better, why is the CIA intent on destroying everywhere?
00:49:11.300 That's a fantastic question.
00:49:13.600 When the CIA was created in its charter, and Truman later regretted, as you know, that's in our book.
00:49:19.980 He regretted creating it and said it was casting a shadow over our freedom.
00:49:23.740 He deeply regretted even creating it.
00:49:26.580 But in the CIA's charter, it gives them unbridled authority to do covert operations, supposedly accountable to the president, which they never are.
00:49:37.740 And using the doctrine of plausible denial, which existed when I was there, the CIA can do anything it wants to any country and any person as long as the government isn't blamed for it.
00:49:48.600 And they do.
00:49:49.620 They do all of that.
00:49:50.980 So it's a monstrous juggernaut.
00:49:53.800 And when they did the National Security Act of 1947, and especially the National Security Council Directive 10-2, they opened Pandora's box to the CIA and the devil came out.
00:50:04.380 And the CIA became this massive, murderous organization.
00:50:08.300 I think last estimate they've been responsible for the death of 7 million people around the world.
00:50:13.360 Our CIA has done that.
00:50:16.080 And it's time for that to stop.
00:50:17.860 It's time for that part of the CIA to be removed.
00:50:21.600 I think they should keep the Directorate of Intelligence and the other ones that Truman intended.
00:50:25.640 But the CIA's covert operational authority needs to be eliminated entirely.
00:50:30.000 And that's what I'm pushing for and proposing, as well as Bobby Kennedy and others.
00:50:34.400 And that has to be done.
00:50:35.340 Because it is a monstrous, wicked, evil organization that has a secret budget with our tax dollars that is killing, murdering people, and overturning Democratic governments.
00:50:44.820 Time to stop.
00:50:46.160 So I'm going to ask you a question.
00:50:47.920 There are all of these CIA black sites.
00:50:52.660 I mean, Area 51 would be a place that we have no idea what goes on there.
00:50:58.460 We also know Diego Garcia.
00:51:02.000 What goes on at these places?
00:51:03.760 Oh, Diego Garcia is a very secret facility.
00:51:07.180 Of course, we're there.
00:51:08.960 Intelligence is there.
00:51:10.180 Certain sectors of the military are there.
00:51:11.920 But nobody knows what they're doing at Diego Garcia in terms of the public.
00:51:17.000 It just sits there doing the intelligence community's bidding.
00:51:22.300 And, of course, recent reports have come out about Diego Garcia's possible role in the Malaysian Flight 370 and its utter disappearance.
00:51:30.520 In my view, there were on board Malaysian, you may know this, Flight 370, on board were a company that had engineers that were developing chips that could function at room temperature, super compute at room temperature.
00:51:46.560 Extremely valuable technology to defense and intelligence.
00:51:52.480 They were on that plane.
00:51:54.900 And we mentioned before, I think you have interviewed somebody on this.
00:51:59.200 They finally released some of the footage of the aircraft before it disappeared.
00:52:03.460 And there's objects rotating around the plane, changing its course.
00:52:08.440 And then, poof, it's just gone.
00:52:09.940 No wreckage.
00:52:11.180 And the wreckage they claim they found an ocean away wasn't even from that flight.
00:52:16.300 So there's something that really needs the American people to look into.
00:52:20.760 And maybe this new administration to get something.
00:52:22.820 I think something really nefarious happened there.
00:52:25.100 I think that the government has technology that we couldn't even imagine.
00:52:28.840 Yeah.
00:52:29.240 And that's what all of these bases are meant to protect.
00:52:31.980 And that brings me to NASA because I fell in a dark hole looking into the origins of NASA.
00:52:38.160 And I'm not kidding when I say they are satanic.
00:52:40.080 It's like it's not like people say something when we say, oh, it's satanic, like we mean this in sort of a light way.
00:52:45.620 But it's no, like they were doing satanic chants as they established the Apollo program.
00:52:50.660 The Sky Jack Parsons was following a dark art known as the Lima, Aleister Crowley, sex cults.
00:53:00.700 It's very, very dark.
00:53:02.260 And I know that following the Korean War, because I've looked into MKUltra, you had people in the military that came back and were saying that it was the first time that we had engaged in biological warfare and spraying the population.
00:53:20.220 And a lot of people now wonder and you hear people say that the sky doesn't look the same as it looks when I grew up.
00:53:26.180 And we don't really know what NASA does.
00:53:28.400 We just know, well, we went to the moon, so it's okay that they're taking billions and billions of dollars because we, 1969, we went to the moon.
00:53:33.800 Yeah.
00:53:34.620 Do you think that biological warfare, like a piece of that could be executed on even like our own population?
00:53:41.660 And we're just theorizing here, obviously.
00:53:43.280 I have no proof of that, but it's a conversation people are having.
00:53:46.040 And they need to have that because if they think it's in the interest of preserving the United States and it's the upper levels of the national security state, we're in a post-constitutional government.
00:53:57.000 We are now under a national security state, which will perpetuate itself at all costs.
00:54:01.500 If it came down to spraying Americans, I think they did that to Army troops back during, around the time of MKUltra, they sprayed a bunch of American troops with a bioweapon.
00:54:11.480 Of course, the base we were on, they buried chemical weapons, mustard gas and other things.
00:54:16.180 So, yes, they have been doing that.
00:54:17.720 And, you know, I have to agree too, because I remember, I've always been a, they used to call me a sky person when I was working outside because I love clouds and I love the sky.
00:54:26.820 The sky is not the way it used to be.
00:54:28.700 Whatever conclusion you want to reach, it's a mess with just trails everywhere.
00:54:34.940 And, oh, it's just contrails from the condensation.
00:54:38.480 Well, wait a minute.
00:54:39.360 Air engineering has improved, not gone backwards.
00:54:43.480 And back in my day, they didn't put out all this stuff, question mark.
00:54:47.620 What's that all about?
00:54:48.540 And I think people need to ask that question, because it has changed.
00:54:51.540 But you can bet they have biological weapons programs in case they need them with the continuation of government or the COG program.
00:54:59.600 Things get bad enough, they're going to sacrifice the American people and through the continuation of government.
00:55:04.420 And I know a little bit about that.
00:55:05.860 They will preserve the president, the CIA, and some of the major leaders in some secret facilities so that the government continues while the American people are basically left out like lambs to the slaughter.
00:55:17.660 There's biological warfare, of course, psychological warfare, which is taking place in our classrooms and on our children.
00:55:23.500 Yeah.
00:55:23.760 And I also believe a big element of the psychological warfare, I mean, this is undeniable, why on earth would the Pentagon have a budget for Hollywood films?
00:55:31.580 It's just like, they do things, then they produce a Hollywood film, and everyone thinks that they're seeing, oh, this is exactly what happened in World War II or exactly what happened during World War I.
00:55:40.920 True.
00:55:41.080 And this really gets back to Tavistock Institute.
00:55:45.120 Yes.
00:55:45.880 And the CIA has its own media liaison office now, Hollywood liaison office.
00:55:50.840 They literally wrote, the CIA did, part of the script for the movie Argo.
00:55:55.420 And they changed the facts.
00:55:57.560 The facts were that it was the Canadian embassy that staged that program and got the hostages out.
00:56:03.400 Argo makes it look like it was CIA officers that were the heroes.
00:56:06.200 Well, the CIA put that in there and kicked the Canadians out, and they're still upset about it today.
00:56:11.360 That's a CIA propaganda program to make them look like the heroes.
00:56:15.280 They're doing that all the time.
00:56:16.900 Zero Dark Thirty.
00:56:17.540 Zero Dark Thirty.
00:56:18.820 Those are CIA-coordinated productions because they want the CIA to look good because all it's bad is starting to come out now.
00:56:27.380 So they're trying to put out, you know, everybody loves a good spy movie, but they're trying to put all these things out, making the agency look like heroes and things like that.
00:56:34.740 Listen, I've worked with case officers and chief of stations around the world, and I can count on one hand, maybe even just two fingers, the two chief of stations that were actually noble people.
00:56:45.160 The rest were lower than a snake.
00:56:48.720 Dishonest, immoral thieves.
00:56:50.960 They go out with prostitutes at night and just some of the most disgusting people you could.
00:56:55.480 They weren't James Bond, I can tell you that.
00:56:57.740 So no one presents that picture, of course, in these scripts for these movies, but that's the reality of it.
00:57:02.740 Okay, I'm going to just now ask you about some world leaders in summation because there's just a lot of weird stuff going on.
00:57:10.220 Justin Trudeau, I mean, he's just, it just seems to be so much a part of the state apparatus.
00:57:15.400 And really, we saw during COVID his ability to just completely squeeze the freedoms of the Canadians.
00:57:23.020 What's your viewpoint on him?
00:57:24.160 Well, he's, he's more, I think, of, of, has a communist leaning than even a socialist leaning.
00:57:32.840 Hey, the guy's a tyrant, a flat out tyrant.
00:57:34.620 And what a lot of people don't know is the RCMP, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, are directly connected to the RCIA.
00:57:43.340 And they work together and they work together in one case to cover up an airline crash.
00:57:47.680 So people didn't know what really happened there.
00:57:51.140 So that you got that part of the Canadian government that is directly connected to our shadow government.
00:57:56.420 And of course, Trudeau is their puppet.
00:57:59.400 He's become a tyrant.
00:58:00.600 There's no question about it.
00:58:01.680 And I know, I know a lot of Canadians.
00:58:03.560 I was on a program yesterday with a Canadian, really upset with him.
00:58:08.900 And he's losing popularity fast, but he's a deep stater from the word go.
00:58:14.560 And as usual, all about his career, you know.
00:58:17.920 And Emmanuel Macron, France.
00:58:20.860 Sure.
00:58:22.000 Well, there's a lot of stuff about Emmanuel Macron.
00:58:24.120 Now, what people don't know is France, when I was there and even now, is one, I think it's our number three espionage enemy.
00:58:31.880 France has been spying on Americans for decades.
00:58:35.480 And they've been putting French agents on aircraft behind businessmen to listen to what they're talking about with their business.
00:58:41.140 So France has been hostile in terms of intelligence to the U.S. the entire time.
00:58:46.200 Stuff about Macron and his shady, strange past.
00:58:51.560 And of course, his wife.
00:58:54.040 I mean, there's stuff coming out that you just have to, you have to listen to.
00:58:59.240 What you have done.
00:59:00.580 And I've watched it all.
00:59:03.180 You can't discount the things that you have said.
00:59:06.400 And, you know, I admire you because you've got the guts to come out with Piers Morgan and other people and just, look, these are just the facts.
00:59:11.840 We're just going to say the facts.
00:59:13.480 Attack us as you will.
00:59:15.360 So France is a dirty government.
00:59:18.320 Their intelligence is dirty.
00:59:21.340 And I guess that's probably all I should say about that.
00:59:25.060 And Zelensky, what's your take on Zelensky?
00:59:26.900 Zelensky's a puppet.
00:59:27.820 He was a comedian.
00:59:28.540 He wasn't even a politician.
00:59:30.180 As a matter of fact, he was kind of a, I wouldn't say pornographic, but a certain close to it comedian with no government experience at all.
00:59:38.240 But he was very popular as a comedian.
00:59:40.560 So he was the CIA's pick because the people would, they would let him be put in office.
00:59:45.560 And Zelensky, he doesn't, he doesn't want peace now.
00:59:51.220 He could enter into peace anytime.
00:59:54.540 He refuses to enter into any peace negotiations whatsoever.
00:59:59.860 And he is the recipient of the CIA's main vein, so to speak.
01:00:05.440 And that's the military industrial complex that is pumping billions of dollars of weapons into Ukraine at using our tax dollars without our approval to pump up Zelensky.
01:00:16.680 And he keeps asking for more and more and more, much of which I think, goodness gracious, 49 million so far is not accounted for.
01:00:24.240 I think he's a crook, personally.
01:00:26.100 It's actually funny because now that I'm kind of weaving through everyone's genealogy, one of the things that kind of connects all of these people is that they were in like drama programs when they were young.
01:00:34.960 And that's the actor thing is very interesting to me.
01:00:38.140 Emmanuel Macron was very much involved in an elite drama program, Zelensky as well, and Justin Trudeau.
01:00:45.880 And it's super interesting because I think that some actors are also agents.
01:00:50.620 And one person in particular, no one will ever convince me that this is wrong.
01:00:53.600 I have absolutely no proof.
01:00:55.000 So I will say that this is just my own theory.
01:00:57.100 Sean Penn, I'm convinced, is a CIA agent.
01:01:00.320 I mean, he appears everywhere.
01:01:01.660 He's always involved in all of these movies about what would be CIA operations as soon as Ukraine happened.
01:01:07.900 He's over there.
01:01:08.360 He's meeting with President Zelensky.
01:01:09.840 No one will not convince me that Sean Penn is a CIA agent.
01:01:13.960 And it would be very smart if you're going to be producing these Hollywood films to tell stories to have some of these people quite literally be trained actors that are also agents.
01:01:22.180 I mean, it's duplicitous, but it's actually great smart.
01:01:23.420 I can carefully confirm that there are several actors that are CIA agents.
01:01:28.020 Tell us who!
01:01:29.380 Can't do that.
01:01:30.000 I'm still trying to stay out of jail.
01:01:33.020 I'm right, guys.
01:01:34.140 I am so right.
01:01:35.080 I'm trying my best to stay out of prison.
01:01:36.280 I'm close.
01:01:37.460 Well, we sold a ton of these books before, but we actually need to sell a lot more of them.
01:01:42.120 I know, guys, that it went out of stock.
01:01:44.220 I'm actually so proud that it actually sold out its first print because you absolutely deserve all the success in the world.
01:01:49.760 Thank you.
01:01:50.160 The fact that you just have the courage to do this and that you put your entire family's life at risk.
01:01:54.880 So you guys go, do not walk, run to get this book, Twilight of the Shadow Government, How Transparency Will Kill the Deep State.
01:02:03.260 I believe that we are a part of that transparent effort.
01:02:05.960 Obviously, if you look at the top of the Spotify and Apple podcasts, you have people, Joe Rogan, me, Tucker Carlson, Theo Vaughn.
01:02:14.500 And that's just because he's hilarious.
01:02:16.960 He's not even overtly political, but willing to have these conversations.
01:02:20.440 Where could people go to get this book?
01:02:21.740 Right now, they can go on Amazon.com.
01:02:23.820 They're going to restock it by December the 7th.
01:02:26.620 So they're out right now.
01:02:28.200 It's going to be restocked by December the 7th.
01:02:30.680 And this book was published without the approval of the CIA.
01:02:34.300 And that's the calculated risk I took so that people will get the truth without it being stopped.
01:02:39.320 And, of course, my courageous co-author, Kent Heckenlively, deserves some major kudos for writing the book with me.
01:02:45.600 And he was just banned from Australia, by the way.
01:02:49.120 Join the club.
01:02:50.140 Yeah, that's right.
01:02:51.380 That's a badge of honor.
01:02:52.640 It is.
01:02:54.540 Well, you guys, you heard that.
01:02:55.680 You can head to Amazon.
01:02:56.580 You can get this book.
01:02:57.500 Definitely own it.
01:02:58.100 We want to make sure that we promote and support all of the truth tellers because we all feel that this awakening is upon us.
01:03:04.700 And it's in large part thanks to the listeners like you guys.
01:03:07.820 So we'll see you next time.
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