Candace Owens - Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs

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00:00:30.000 Today, we're talking about boring stuff.

00:00:33.100 And I mean, obviously, Elon Musk's secretive tunnel-digging company,

00:00:37.520 which drops us down a crazy rabbit hole into deep underground military bases.

00:00:42.700 Also, that one time when a running app accidentally exposed secret CIA facilities around the world,

00:00:49.160 and possibly even a secret base under the ice in Antarctica.

00:00:53.320 Then, is Elon Musk lying about his entire identity all the way back to who really founded Tesla?

00:00:58.560 Plus, a huge Israeli operative might have just been exposed in the UFO community.

00:01:04.720 All that and more, today on Candace.

00:01:07.080 So, the other day, I was digging into Elon Musk's boring company.

00:01:25.600 You know, the tunneling company he owns that most people don't know about.

00:01:29.080 I brought that up way back when Candace and I first sat down for our first interview together.

00:01:34.520 And we spoke briefly about it.

00:01:36.180 And it's been on my mind ever since.

00:01:38.420 But I finally sat down to dig into it.

00:01:40.720 And it led me down so many rabbit holes.

00:01:43.940 And by the way, there's going to be a lot of digging puns in this episode.

00:01:47.460 Because the dig is deep, and it's twisted, and we're going to take a lot of interesting detours and side quests.

00:01:52.860 But trust me, by the end, it's going to paint quite the picture.

00:01:57.160 So, let's start where I started on Wikispooks.

00:02:02.080 Wikispooks, if you're not familiar, is a wild ride.

00:02:05.740 It's like Wikipedia for conspiracy theorists.

00:02:08.840 And it's crowdsourced and probably not controlled by Masada, the CIA, yet.

00:02:14.180 Although you should obviously always double-check everything for yourself, especially on a place like Wikispooks.

00:02:19.540 And the nice thing about Wikispooks is that it looks pretty low-budget.

00:02:23.940 And it constantly reminds you not to trust it as a primary source.

00:02:28.140 But the other thing that I love about Wikispooks is that it is peppered with links to primary sources on all kinds of stuff.

00:02:34.780 And some of them are pretty crazy.

00:02:36.780 If you want to absolutely crush an afternoon, just go dig around in the 9-11 Wikispooks page.

00:02:43.040 They've got a lot of gems hiding in there.

00:02:45.700 So, anyways, I wound up on the Wikispooks page for deep underground military bases.

00:02:51.400 And it had this section on the NDAA from 2013.

00:02:55.480 Side note, Obama tacked on the Smith-Munt Modernization Act to the 2013 NDAA,

00:03:01.380 basically ensuring that it would pass, which it did.

00:03:04.020 And that was when the U.S. government officially legalized itself propagandizing the American people.

00:03:09.880 Skylar, do we have the AP fact check pulled up that we can show everybody?

00:03:13.880 Because it was pretty funny.

00:03:15.880 So, obviously, AP knows what they're talking about.

00:03:20.020 And if you wanted to know whether it was legal to propagandize U.S. citizens, AP's got your back.

00:03:24.880 Because the claim is that Obama signed into law this thing that will allow the government to propagandize American citizens.

00:03:32.860 But AP's assessment is that's false.

00:03:35.100 In 2013, Obama signed legislation that changed the U.S. Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948,

00:03:41.300 also known as the Smith-Munt Act.

00:03:42.860 The amendment made it possible for some materials created by the U.S. Agency for Global Media,

00:03:48.640 the nation's foreign broadcasting agency, to be disseminated in the U.S.

00:03:51.820 So, false.

00:03:53.920 They're not propagandizing you.

00:03:56.560 But they're just sharing a little titsy-bitsy of propaganda with you.

00:04:03.300 Obviously.

00:04:03.900 And if you're not familiar with the NDAA, by the way, it's the National Defense Authorization Act,

00:04:09.940 which is basically the annual budget bill for the Department of Defense,

00:04:12.980 hence why it was guaranteed to pass, more or less.

00:04:16.000 And this is a good place to start us off.

00:04:18.740 Because the first thing you should always do is double-check your source.

00:04:21.740 So, in this case, I was able to follow Wikispook's links and search the page for the text

00:04:27.060 to find that this same information is verifiable on sites like govtrack.us.

00:04:31.460 And this does appear to be actual text from the NDAA in 2013.

00:04:36.200 And I'm not surprised by this.

00:04:38.160 Because the military takes underground military facilities and capabilities very seriously.

00:04:42.880 This specific example is basically an order to STRATCOM, Strategic Command,

00:04:47.240 to find out what secret underground military facilities and capabilities China has

00:04:51.300 and figure out how hard it would be to nuke them if we wanted to.

00:04:55.200 Which is a kind of uncomfortable scenario to consider

00:04:58.400 if you think it through for just a few minutes.

00:05:01.480 But anyways, underground military bases are not new.

00:05:05.740 This is a 1953 CIA report that was declassified in 2003,

00:05:10.680 detailing how the Soviet Union had taken control of

00:05:13.340 and was rebuilding Nazi underground military base infrastructure in Rastenburg,

00:05:17.880 which is northeast Poland, after World War II.

00:05:20.460 When the Germans retreated from East Prussia in 1945, the German army headquarters at Rastenburg was left intact.

00:05:26.900 It is claimed that the advancing Red Army scarcely noticed anything special about this region,

00:05:31.220 where the, quote, brain of the German army was located during the war.

00:05:35.180 Seen from the surface, it was only an area of lakes and forests,

00:05:37.900 which covered the gigantic underground city measuring 38 kilometers long and three to five kilometers wide.

00:05:44.140 The region is crossed by the railroad, which runs from Kaliningrad to Bialystok.

00:05:48.680 The underground military city is equipped with a communication system, which is completely electrified.

00:05:52.780 There are three electric power plants, which function independently of each other,

00:05:56.340 and water tanks and a water system supplying the underground shelters, barracks,

00:06:00.240 officers' quarters, and the luxurious staff rooms.

00:06:02.300 All parts of the headquarters are connected by telephone and also by a pneumatic dispatch tube system.

00:06:07.840 There are also large military warehouses and garages and underground hangars,

00:06:12.160 all at a depth of at least 30 meters below the surface.

00:06:15.620 It's pretty wild to think back to civilian technology in the 1940s,

00:06:19.740 when this stuff was being constructed during wartime, mind you.

00:06:24.200 And think about how vastly different the resources and technology available to a nation's military are

00:06:30.200 from those available to their citizens.

00:06:32.720 I'm just going to read a little bit of this one.

00:06:34.760 Same document.

00:06:36.120 Excerpt from it says,

00:06:37.260 It took the Germans six years to construct this military city,

00:06:40.840 the best camouflaged underground city in the world.

00:06:43.620 Hitler stayed there much of the time during the Russian campaign.

00:06:46.720 The headquarters had direct wire connections with Berlin,

00:06:49.540 a very powerful radio station and a radar system.

00:06:51.940 There are a number of airfields scattered around the area,

00:06:54.820 which are connected with the actual headquarters by underground passageways.

00:06:58.400 The rest of the page describes how the German mines that they left to protect the site

00:07:02.220 were eventually cleared and the sites captured by the Soviets.

00:07:05.380 Now, it's pretty easy to start going down crazy rabbit holes of Nazis escaping to Argentina

00:07:10.140 and Antarctica, hiding underground and all that jazz.

00:07:13.040 Most history textbooks like to gloss over that a whole bunch of them just came to America,

00:07:19.020 hosted by the CIA, and then were instrumental in things like our biological and chemical weapons programs,

00:07:24.500 our mind control experiments, and NASA.

00:07:26.980 Our space program was founded by one of the lead Nazi rocket scientists,

00:07:31.000 Wernher von Braun.

00:07:32.000 And we'll come back to a neat tidbit about him a little later.

00:07:34.720 But the crazy thing is that the underground bases in Antarctica tinfoil isn't just tinfoil.

00:07:41.080 Maybe.

00:07:42.440 Now, I don't know about secret Nazi bases in Antarctica,

00:07:45.340 but I do know about that one time when Strava accidentally showed the locations of secret bases all around the world.

00:07:52.220 So, time for our first crazy detour.

00:07:54.780 This is a true story.

00:07:56.860 Back in 2017, when Strava launched their heat map feature,

00:08:00.220 American soldiers and operatives accidentally broadcast the exact layout of secret bases online to Strava,

00:08:07.460 one of the most popular running apps.

00:08:09.800 You see, Strava has this feature where as you record your runs through your watch or your telephone or whatever,

00:08:16.440 it stores that GPS data and then it anonymously uploads it to their global heat map,

00:08:21.240 which shows where we all run and how much traffic different routes get.

00:08:25.020 It's actually incredibly cool and super useful.

00:08:27.280 For example, I spent the last couple months living in Austin, Texas,

00:08:30.840 and I would use the Strava heat map to look around for trails and cool places to run.

00:08:35.280 The brighter the line, the more people run there.

00:08:37.640 It's a great way to find fun adventures.

00:08:39.740 Also, apparently, an all-right way to find secret military bases hidden all around the world.

00:08:45.440 I guess when you're stationed to a top-secret base, there's probably not a whole lot to do,

00:08:49.800 and you probably aren't allowed to just go off base for a jog in your spare time.

00:08:53.480 If so, people were logging their runs and walks on base,

00:08:57.200 not realizing that it would upload to the global heat map.

00:09:00.740 This is coming from The Guardian.

00:09:02.480 In Syria, known coalition, i.e. U.S. bases, light up the night,

00:09:07.620 writes an analyst, Tobias Schneider.

00:09:09.620 Some light markers over known Russian positions,

00:09:13.220 no notable coloring for Iranian bases.

00:09:15.420 A lot of people are going to have to sit through lectures come Monday morning.

00:09:19.060 In locations like Afghanistan, Djibouti, and Syria,

00:09:22.140 the users of Strava seem to be almost exclusively foreign military personnel,

00:09:26.180 meaning that bases stand out brightly.

00:09:28.480 In Helmand province, Afghanistan, for instance,

00:09:30.600 the locations of forward operating bases can be clearly seen,

00:09:33.820 glowing white against the black map.

00:09:35.720 Because all the Afghanis and all the people over there are not using Strava.

00:09:40.400 And so the places where Westerners are stationed and are recording their movements

00:09:44.620 are very easy to spot.

00:09:47.540 And now, these bases probably weren't exactly secret,

00:09:51.480 but it's still pretty awkward.

00:09:53.340 We're just publishing a roadmap of all of our forward bases

00:09:56.700 for anyone that wants to, to just browse through.

00:10:00.240 But then, the internet completely lost its mind

00:10:03.160 when someone found this weird data in Antarctica

00:10:06.080 shaped like a trapezoid on the heat map.

00:10:09.400 Conspiracy boards on Reddit gobbled it up

00:10:11.780 and started cooking up all kinds of crazy theories.

00:10:15.200 And from a distance,

00:10:16.240 it appears to just be in some random location in Antarctica.

00:10:19.700 You zoom in,

00:10:20.600 and you see that there's some sort of research station there,

00:10:23.300 but theories about an underground base started to spread.

00:10:26.920 And although there may be underground bases in Antarctica,

00:10:30.120 eventually cooler heads prevailed

00:10:31.900 when someone realized that that's where they host

00:10:34.540 the Antarctic Ice Marathon,

00:10:36.300 which is still pretty wild,

00:10:38.480 those people are their own kind of crazy.

00:10:41.040 But it's not a secret Nazi UFO base.

00:10:44.440 And although the Strava data did yield some likely candidates

00:10:47.680 for secret CIA bases abroad,

00:10:49.800 where they technically were not supposed to be at the time,

00:10:53.260 a lot of popular underground base theories came up empty-handed.

00:10:56.880 No secret tunnels lit up the Denver airport.

00:10:59.080 No secret tunnels linked the Getty Museum

00:11:01.720 to billionaire mansions in Hollywood,

00:11:03.380 at least not on Strava.

00:11:04.940 And that should be expected

00:11:06.240 because you can't record your GPS data from underground.

00:11:09.600 So obviously, we weren't exactly expecting

00:11:12.020 Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama

00:11:13.660 to record their secret walks

00:11:15.000 to and from a hot dog and a pizza party.

00:11:17.800 But there is evidence

00:11:19.780 that sketchy stuff is going on underground.

00:11:21.780 For example,

00:11:23.720 the Finders cult is an endearing mystery

00:11:25.640 that would take an entire episode to dig into.

00:11:27.860 But in short,

00:11:28.980 a preschool was found

00:11:29.920 to have a whole tunnel system underneath it.

00:11:32.140 Links to satanic ritual abuse

00:11:33.480 and then direct links to CIA involvement came out.

00:11:37.360 And that's when it all got covered up

00:11:39.140 and labeled conspiracy,

00:11:40.660 pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

00:11:43.440 Then there is the more recent scandal

00:11:45.440 at Chabad Lubavitch in New York,

00:11:47.600 one of the biggest synagogues

00:11:48.920 of one of the most prominent sects

00:11:50.300 of ultra-Orthodox Judaism,

00:11:52.240 where it was revealed

00:11:53.120 that they had dug tunnels and rooms

00:11:55.040 into the ground underneath the building.

00:11:57.360 The official story

00:11:58.260 is that it was just a bunch of pesky kids

00:12:00.500 trying to expand the synagogue.

00:12:02.860 This sect, I would mention,

00:12:04.720 is what I can only describe as a textbook cult.

00:12:08.420 And none of us will ever forget

00:12:09.840 the stained child-sized mattress

00:12:11.620 that was pulled from the tunnel in all the mayhem.

00:12:14.880 I think we all have some questions,

00:12:16.820 but not a lot of answers.

00:12:17.840 Those are just a few of the spicier scandals

00:12:20.780 involving tunnels lately.

00:12:22.260 But all you need to do

00:12:23.540 is go to the Wikipedia page titled

00:12:25.400 Underground City,

00:12:26.820 and you'll immediately see

00:12:27.880 why there are so many tunnel conspiracy theories.

00:12:31.240 The first photo on the page

00:12:32.520 is a reference to Crystal City, Virginia,

00:12:34.720 which I couldn't help but notice

00:12:36.200 is just a few miles from downtown DC.

00:12:38.440 So I obviously had to click on that.

00:12:41.420 I'm just going to read from the Wikipedia page

00:12:43.120 a little bit here for you.

00:12:45.100 Quote,

00:12:45.420 Crystal City includes

00:12:47.060 several aerospace manufacturing

00:12:48.840 and defense industry companies,

00:12:50.640 public sector consulting firms,

00:12:52.300 government contractors,

00:12:53.540 the U.S. Department of Labor,

00:12:54.860 the U.S. Marshal Service,

00:12:56.160 satellite offices for the Pentagon,

00:12:57.840 and various nonprofit organizations.

00:13:00.940 Interesting.

00:13:02.420 Go figure.

00:13:03.960 All the defense contractors,

00:13:05.620 consulting firms,

00:13:06.400 and government agency buildings

00:13:07.620 are sitting on top of a massive tunnel network.

00:13:09.940 There's obviously a similar,

00:13:11.940 probably far more robust tunnel network

00:13:13.820 underneath DC proper.

00:13:16.760 Seriously.

00:13:18.020 The Wikipedia page for Underground City

00:13:19.960 is this long.

00:13:22.260 And that's just what's on Wikipedia.

00:13:24.460 It goes on and on,

00:13:25.680 describing tunnels all over the world,

00:13:27.640 underneath all kinds of cities,

00:13:29.400 and it's got all kinds of links.

00:13:31.260 And I would invite you

00:13:32.360 to go check it out

00:13:33.540 and just do a little digging,

00:13:35.860 so to speak.

00:13:36.540 So I just had to laugh, though,

00:13:39.660 where it tells us

00:13:40.560 about the tunnels

00:13:41.580 underneath Richmond, Virginia.

00:13:43.520 And then it says,

00:13:44.800 quote,

00:13:45.320 the purpose of the tunnels

00:13:46.600 is not generally known.

00:13:48.860 Okay.

00:13:49.740 Whatever, guys.

00:13:51.620 Dig into this stuff deep enough,

00:13:53.180 and you'll wind up

00:13:54.100 at that one time

00:13:55.180 back in the 70s

00:13:56.180 when the U.S. government

00:13:57.000 patented

00:13:57.560 a nuclear tunnel boring machine.

00:14:02.280 Here is that patent

00:14:03.400 filed on behalf

00:14:04.660 of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission.

00:14:06.540 But the official story

00:14:08.200 is that the project

00:14:09.300 never got off the ground

00:14:10.520 and was transferred

00:14:11.460 between agencies

00:14:12.300 before being buried

00:14:13.900 and retired.

00:14:15.400 And who knows?

00:14:16.560 Maybe that is what happened.

00:14:18.040 But one thing is for sure.

00:14:19.840 Something has been digging

00:14:21.180 all this underground infrastructure.

00:14:23.040 And we all know

00:14:24.060 that if this is what

00:14:25.040 they're telling us about,

00:14:26.580 Lord knows

00:14:27.580 that they aren't telling us

00:14:29.120 about other things.

00:14:31.000 And in a moment,

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00:16:51.600 about Elon Musk.

00:16:53.380 Because one of his

00:16:54.140 least talked about companies

00:16:55.420 is called

00:16:56.020 The Boring Company.

00:16:56.920 And he's got big plans

00:16:58.820 for building

00:16:59.280 underground infrastructure

00:17:00.320 all over the world.

00:17:02.240 He has since raised money

00:17:03.400 from his PayPal boys,

00:17:04.660 Peter Thiel

00:17:05.240 and Joe Lonsdale,

00:17:07.040 in other words,

00:17:08.180 Palantir.

00:17:09.200 And although certainly

00:17:10.360 there are a lot

00:17:11.200 of legitimate reasons

00:17:12.180 why better tunnel-jading

00:17:13.320 technology could make

00:17:14.380 the world better

00:17:15.040 for all of us,

00:17:16.180 I can think of lots

00:17:17.000 of reasons why

00:17:17.800 these defense industry-aligned

00:17:19.460 folks might have

00:17:20.700 other things in mind.

00:17:22.080 I don't know of any

00:17:23.300 secret government contracts

00:17:24.580 held by The Boring Company

00:17:25.760 right now, but let's

00:17:27.360 just say that if he

00:17:28.580 doesn't already have

00:17:29.520 them, you can bet

00:17:31.580 that he will soon.

00:17:33.320 But, while we're on

00:17:34.880 the topic of Elon Musk,

00:17:36.300 I spoke with Candace

00:17:37.340 a few weeks back

00:17:38.180 about Elon Musk's

00:17:39.660 gaming scandal

00:17:40.380 and the implications

00:17:41.620 of it.

00:17:42.840 Now, I haven't played

00:17:44.280 any video games

00:17:45.000 in like nearly a decade,

00:17:46.600 so I thought I'd

00:17:47.540 take it over to a dude

00:17:48.580 who knows what he's

00:17:49.160 talking about

00:17:49.820 and let YouTuber

00:17:51.000 Quinn69TV

00:17:52.300 get us started.

00:17:53.440 Elon Musk's

00:17:55.440 character

00:17:56.060 is currently

00:17:57.460 level 97

00:17:58.560 aka rank 12

00:18:00.760 on hardcore,

00:18:02.040 that's permanent

00:18:02.540 death mode

00:18:03.240 trade league.

00:18:04.340 Let me try to give you

00:18:04.900 a quick understanding

00:18:06.260 as to how hard

00:18:07.100 it is to get

00:18:08.180 to that level.

00:18:08.820 Two weeks into the league

00:18:10.020 when people are

00:18:11.180 playing the game,

00:18:12.180 literally,

00:18:12.720 they're staying up

00:18:13.380 40 to 50 hours

00:18:14.720 without sleeping,

00:18:16.180 only playing

00:18:16.980 Path of Exile

00:18:17.600 and they are

00:18:19.200 the most try-hard

00:18:20.560 guys in the world.

00:18:22.140 His bags are full

00:18:23.100 and he just keeps

00:18:23.720 clicking it over

00:18:24.480 and over and over

00:18:25.100 again.

00:18:25.680 Nobody,

00:18:26.380 not even people

00:18:27.700 who are kind of

00:18:29.000 noobs at the game

00:18:29.780 do this.

00:18:30.320 I don't even think

00:18:31.020 Elon Musk has done

00:18:31.740 the campaign,

00:18:32.360 honestly,

00:18:32.880 like just based on

00:18:33.900 what I'm seeing

00:18:34.280 in terms of the

00:18:34.680 gameplay.

00:18:35.200 His settings on

00:18:35.940 the map transparency

00:18:36.780 are turned on by

00:18:37.400 default,

00:18:37.860 his life values

00:18:38.880 are turned on,

00:18:39.920 all these basic

00:18:40.620 settings that anyone

00:18:41.640 in the top 100

00:18:42.640 would do,

00:18:44.100 he is not doing.

00:18:45.160 And if you needed

00:18:45.760 any more proof

00:18:46.480 that Elon is 100%

00:18:47.860 boosted,

00:18:48.380 he was playing

00:18:49.320 the game today

00:18:50.540 inside of maps

00:18:51.780 blasting while

00:18:53.340 simultaneously on

00:18:54.980 a X space

00:18:56.860 talking to like

00:18:57.840 some far right

00:18:58.880 wing part of

00:18:59.660 some German

00:19:00.280 government,

00:19:00.840 I don't know,

00:19:01.300 some political

00:19:01.840 bulls**t.

00:19:03.020 Okay,

00:19:03.240 I guess he's just

00:19:03.820 that much of a

00:19:04.360 god gamer.

00:19:06.280 So,

00:19:07.020 at this point

00:19:08.260 as of today,

00:19:09.800 he has confessed

00:19:10.760 to paying people

00:19:11.780 to level up

00:19:12.480 and play his

00:19:13.000 characters for him.

00:19:14.320 And don't worry,

00:19:15.560 we're not going to

00:19:16.260 nerd out super hard

00:19:17.400 here on this,

00:19:18.480 but we're just

00:19:18.900 going to skim the

00:19:19.380 surface for a minute

00:19:20.140 to inspire some

00:19:20.800 questions.

00:19:22.320 But before we get

00:19:23.220 into this,

00:19:24.620 it's important to

00:19:25.520 remember,

00:19:26.460 he's bragging,

00:19:28.040 he was bragging

00:19:28.860 at least,

00:19:29.680 on the largest

00:19:30.440 platforms in the

00:19:31.800 world.

00:19:32.720 No mention

00:19:33.340 whatsoever that he

00:19:34.440 cheated to level up

00:19:35.280 his characters.

00:19:36.420 He claimed to be

00:19:37.080 one of the top

00:19:37.940 players in two

00:19:39.280 of the hardest

00:19:40.020 and most competitive

00:19:40.920 video games out

00:19:41.800 there, Diablo 4

00:19:42.960 and Path of Exile 2,

00:19:44.480 on shows like Joe

00:19:45.400 Rogan and Lex

00:19:46.160 Fridman and others.

00:19:47.560 But then,

00:19:48.620 during Trump's

00:19:49.260 inauguration,

00:19:49.960 Elon Musk's

00:19:50.640 character was

00:19:51.260 online,

00:19:52.320 pretty much

00:19:52.740 confirming what

00:19:53.480 everyone was

00:19:53.900 already suspecting.

00:19:55.380 He eventually

00:19:55.920 did admit,

00:19:56.940 sort of through

00:19:57.500 a private chat

00:19:58.440 that he gave

00:19:58.880 permission to be

00:19:59.600 released through

00:20:00.220 a friendly gaming

00:20:01.060 YouTuber that

00:20:02.220 painted it in a

00:20:03.000 pretty good light

00:20:03.700 that he had paid

00:20:04.620 people to play

00:20:05.640 and level up

00:20:06.320 his characters

00:20:06.760 for him.

00:20:07.660 And he gave

00:20:08.100 excuses that all

00:20:09.180 the players in

00:20:09.680 Asia do it,

00:20:10.360 so if you want

00:20:11.340 to beat them,

00:20:12.120 then you have

00:20:12.640 to do it too,

00:20:13.640 and okay,

00:20:14.660 bro,

00:20:15.320 that's cool.

00:20:16.560 But that's not

00:20:17.660 what you claimed

00:20:18.540 on the largest

00:20:19.300 platforms in

00:20:20.200 the world.

00:20:21.380 The YouTube

00:20:21.880 channel,

00:20:22.460 Upper Echelon,

00:20:23.220 did a pretty

00:20:23.820 brutal but thorough

00:20:24.880 breakdown of the

00:20:25.800 whole thing if you

00:20:26.700 want more details.

00:20:27.940 And he posed a

00:20:29.240 really interesting

00:20:29.820 theory that Elon

00:20:30.820 Musk got super

00:20:31.820 clowned on prior

00:20:32.920 to this scandal

00:20:33.680 when he started

00:20:34.340 posting about his

00:20:35.220 play of the game

00:20:36.140 Elden Ring online.

00:20:37.980 Like,

00:20:38.740 his character

00:20:39.320 build,

00:20:40.000 meaning the power-ups

00:20:41.040 and items and armor

00:20:42.220 and stuff that he

00:20:43.000 used was so bad

00:20:44.740 that it became a

00:20:45.800 meme.

00:20:46.040 People started

00:20:46.960 making videos

00:20:47.700 about beating

00:20:48.260 the game with

00:20:49.100 the Elon build.

00:20:50.540 Videos clowning on

00:20:51.740 his build got

00:20:52.400 millions of views.

00:20:53.580 It was a lot.

00:20:55.360 And Upper Echelon

00:20:56.360 suggests the

00:20:57.380 theory that maybe

00:20:58.720 the trolling was so

00:20:59.980 intense during this

00:21:00.860 time two years ago

00:21:01.980 that he later cheated

00:21:03.500 to level up his

00:21:04.340 characters as some

00:21:05.640 sort of psychological

00:21:06.900 comeback at all the

00:21:08.280 nerds that had made

00:21:09.320 fun of him.

00:21:10.120 And obviously,

00:21:11.020 that's just a theory.

00:21:12.300 But it's a pretty

00:21:13.920 compelling one.

00:21:14.600 It becomes more

00:21:16.300 compelling when you

00:21:17.160 remember that Bro

00:21:18.120 didn't found Tesla,

00:21:19.680 his flagship company.

00:21:21.060 This is something

00:21:21.640 of a pattern for him.

00:21:23.960 He has someone else

00:21:25.100 build something out.

00:21:26.380 Then,

00:21:27.100 he buys it from them

00:21:28.020 and takes credit for it

00:21:29.120 without exactly

00:21:30.200 openly discussing

00:21:31.360 the whole truth.

00:21:33.220 Elon Musk

00:21:33.940 was just the bankroll.

00:21:35.700 For the first

00:21:36.120 four years of Tesla,

00:21:37.520 Martin Eberhardt

00:21:38.440 and Mark Tarpening

00:21:39.320 were the guys

00:21:40.320 who had founded Tesla

00:21:41.380 until Musk

00:21:42.840 ousted Martin

00:21:43.620 and fired him

00:21:44.500 in 2007.

00:21:46.220 And nowadays,

00:21:47.420 Elon Musk

00:21:48.020 founded Tesla.

00:21:49.800 He doesn't tend

00:21:50.420 to say he invented

00:21:51.540 Tesla or directly

00:21:52.420 claim it was all him.

00:21:53.880 He tends to say

00:21:54.580 things like

00:21:55.160 back when we

00:21:55.940 founded Tesla.

00:21:56.900 But he certainly

00:21:57.980 doesn't mention

00:21:58.840 Eberhardt ever.

00:22:00.900 But,

00:22:01.620 from Eberhardt's

00:22:02.720 perspective,

00:22:04.060 I quote,

00:22:05.080 Elon is a different

00:22:06.340 person now

00:22:07.100 than he was

00:22:07.920 then.

00:22:08.980 He was no more

00:22:09.880 involved than any

00:22:10.760 other board member.

00:22:11.940 He came to board

00:22:12.720 meetings.

00:22:13.300 He did not have

00:22:13.840 an office at the

00:22:14.520 company.

00:22:15.100 He didn't come

00:22:15.720 there regularly.

00:22:16.660 He did not give

00:22:17.380 direction to my

00:22:18.140 employees,

00:22:18.800 anything like that.

00:22:19.880 He was a board

00:22:20.880 member.

00:22:21.980 So,

00:22:22.820 what changed

00:22:23.560 to make Musk

00:22:24.460 the hands-on CEO

00:22:25.480 that he is today?

00:22:27.060 Well,

00:22:27.880 according to

00:22:28.520 Eberhardt,

00:22:29.320 everything changed

00:22:30.280 when Tesla started

00:22:31.120 to get attention

00:22:31.760 from the press.

00:22:33.360 Quote,

00:22:34.140 his behavior

00:22:34.780 changed dramatically

00:22:35.780 as soon as we

00:22:36.520 started having press

00:22:37.460 about Tesla.

00:22:38.560 He got mad if

00:22:39.340 anything was ever

00:22:40.040 written about Tesla

00:22:40.900 and it didn't

00:22:41.440 feature his name

00:22:42.240 prominently.

00:22:43.300 And that's when I

00:22:43.920 realized that there

00:22:44.940 was an ego involved

00:22:45.900 here that I had not

00:22:46.760 recognized before.

00:22:48.520 Eberhardt used to

00:22:49.200 have the nickname

00:22:49.860 Mr. Tesla.

00:22:51.060 And he said that

00:22:51.840 any time Musk

00:22:52.700 wasn't mentioned

00:22:53.480 in an article

00:22:54.060 about the company,

00:22:55.060 he would call

00:22:55.800 and scream

00:22:56.580 at Eberhardt.

00:22:57.820 Now,

00:22:58.480 that sounds like

00:22:59.380 the kind of guy

00:23:00.120 that would get

00:23:00.860 butthurt about

00:23:01.960 gamers making fun

00:23:03.120 of him and

00:23:03.860 cheat to level up

00:23:04.760 to be one of the

00:23:05.460 best.

00:23:06.240 In fact,

00:23:07.100 that starts to

00:23:07.660 align quite well

00:23:08.660 with Musk's

00:23:09.460 apparently abusive

00:23:10.380 but extremely

00:23:11.040 wealthy childhood,

00:23:12.300 his problems

00:23:12.720 with his father

00:23:13.380 and his apparent

00:23:14.000 insatiable drive

00:23:15.120 for success

00:23:15.880 and recognition

00:23:16.900 today.

00:23:18.240 Eventually,

00:23:19.260 after a defamation

00:23:20.120 lawsuit and settlement,

00:23:21.700 Musk purchased

00:23:22.360 the right to

00:23:23.140 call himself

00:23:24.000 a founder of

00:23:24.760 Tesla and

00:23:25.580 Eberhardt

00:23:26.180 presumably

00:23:26.760 took a pretty

00:23:27.580 payout and

00:23:28.420 agreed to never

00:23:29.040 disparage Elon Musk

00:23:30.080 again.

00:23:30.960 But then,

00:23:31.860 on the other hand,

00:23:32.900 it's not as simple

00:23:33.640 as flipping your

00:23:34.300 opinion and hating

00:23:35.300 Elon Musk as an

00:23:36.220 eternal fraudster,

00:23:37.360 right?

00:23:37.600 He did pour

00:23:38.960 all of his

00:23:39.560 money into

00:23:40.000 Tesla when

00:23:40.700 success was

00:23:41.360 not certain

00:23:42.060 and then again

00:23:42.980 with SpaceX,

00:23:43.840 which he did

00:23:44.540 found.

00:23:45.500 He bet the

00:23:46.100 farm on

00:23:46.760 SpaceX when

00:23:47.440 his first

00:23:47.820 three rocket

00:23:48.300 launches failed

00:23:48.920 and both

00:23:49.620 SpaceX and

00:23:50.460 Tesla were

00:23:51.020 on the verge

00:23:51.620 of bankruptcy

00:23:52.080 and it's

00:23:52.620 actually a

00:23:53.140 pretty wild

00:23:53.840 story.

00:23:54.680 And it's

00:23:54.980 hard not to

00:23:55.680 respect the

00:23:56.260 guy for the

00:23:57.300 sheer tenacity

00:23:58.220 of it all,

00:23:59.160 even if a lot

00:24:00.060 of it was just

00:24:00.680 money.

00:24:01.620 But I guess

00:24:02.800 the point here

00:24:03.400 is that they're

00:24:04.180 both stories

00:24:05.100 and there's

00:24:05.800 always more

00:24:06.380 than one

00:24:06.880 side of a

00:24:07.780 story.

00:24:08.460 And when

00:24:08.720 Elon tells

00:24:09.400 them,

00:24:09.860 he's the

00:24:10.180 hero.

00:24:10.820 He was up

00:24:11.260 against all

00:24:11.920 odds and he

00:24:12.640 narrowly snatched

00:24:13.480 victory from the

00:24:14.220 jaws of defeat.

00:24:15.340 When other

00:24:15.720 people tell it,

00:24:16.760 you see other

00:24:17.440 sides of the

00:24:18.040 story that

00:24:18.700 Elon seems to

00:24:19.680 have conveniently

00:24:20.400 left out.

00:24:22.160 My point is

00:24:23.500 not to say that

00:24:24.180 Elon is always

00:24:25.000 a liar,

00:24:25.560 but rather to

00:24:26.180 show that

00:24:26.920 Elon is willing

00:24:27.640 to bend the

00:24:28.260 truth to meet

00:24:29.420 the demands of

00:24:30.160 his ego,

00:24:30.880 his image,

00:24:31.560 and his

00:24:32.000 larger goal.

00:24:32.960 And you should

00:24:33.580 be careful of a

00:24:34.300 man with a

00:24:34.800 hero complex

00:24:35.600 that large

00:24:36.600 who we know

00:24:37.440 has lied in

00:24:38.140 the past over

00:24:38.960 something as

00:24:39.560 insubstantial as

00:24:40.720 his prowess at

00:24:41.840 a video game.

00:24:42.900 We'll have to

00:24:43.420 do another

00:24:43.920 dig another

00:24:44.640 day about the

00:24:45.840 Nazi rocket

00:24:46.480 scientist Wernher

00:24:47.280 von Braun who

00:24:48.240 wrote this book

00:24:49.200 in 1953 about

00:24:50.840 a man named

00:24:51.880 Elon that

00:24:52.620 colonized Mars.

00:24:54.240 But first,

00:24:55.460 let's take a

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00:25:55.080 So now,

00:25:56.700 speaking of

00:25:57.280 rocket ships

00:25:57.840 and people

00:25:58.440 lying,

00:25:59.480 let's talk

00:25:59.980 about UFOs.

00:26:01.720 Now,

00:26:02.620 I know that

00:26:03.160 a lot of you

00:26:03.600 probably never

00:26:04.320 think about

00:26:04.860 UFOs,

00:26:05.600 and people

00:26:06.080 that do

00:26:06.560 all have

00:26:07.140 wildly

00:26:07.660 different

00:26:07.960 opinions

00:26:08.400 and takes.

00:26:09.200 It's

00:26:09.520 interesting,

00:26:10.440 but also

00:26:10.980 it feels

00:26:11.820 at least

00:26:12.280 a little

00:26:12.660 bit like

00:26:13.100 a side-up.

00:26:14.180 It's

00:26:14.460 dizzying

00:26:14.960 to keep

00:26:15.280 up with

00:26:15.600 all the

00:26:15.880 drama

00:26:16.240 in the

00:26:16.540 UFO

00:26:16.800 community,

00:26:17.440 and without

00:26:17.940 Candace

00:26:18.300 around to

00:26:18.780 give it

00:26:19.000 the Blake

00:26:19.360 Lively

00:26:19.680 treatment,

00:26:20.180 it's

00:26:20.420 largely

00:26:20.980 the

00:26:21.220 wild west

00:26:21.780 of

00:26:21.980 conspiracy

00:26:22.340 theories

00:26:22.720 as far

00:26:23.140 as I'm

00:26:23.440 concerned.

00:26:23.760 But,

00:26:24.960 just recently,

00:26:26.080 a content

00:26:26.580 creator called

00:26:27.260 Museum of

00:26:27.880 Tarot

00:26:28.220 exposed one

00:26:29.140 of the

00:26:29.400 largest and

00:26:30.040 longest-standing

00:26:30.820 UFO influencers

00:26:31.820 to potentially

00:26:32.940 be an

00:26:34.220 Israeli plant,

00:26:36.180 Stephen Greer.

00:26:37.620 If you're not

00:26:38.580 familiar with

00:26:39.100 this dude,

00:26:40.040 he's spent the

00:26:40.600 last 30 years

00:26:41.460 collecting every

00:26:42.460 whistleblower under

00:26:43.340 the sun and

00:26:44.100 compiling their

00:26:44.760 testimony and

00:26:45.460 allegedly running

00:26:46.660 around briefing

00:26:47.300 presidents and

00:26:48.180 CIA directors,

00:26:49.280 etc., about the

00:26:50.320 threat of UFOs

00:26:51.880 and the secret

00:26:52.580 government reverse

00:26:53.420 engineering

00:26:53.920 programs.

00:26:55.160 Some of his

00:26:55.700 claims are

00:26:56.560 believable,

00:26:57.480 and some of

00:26:58.120 them are

00:26:58.400 completely

00:26:58.940 ridiculous,

00:27:00.080 like the

00:27:00.500 time he

00:27:00.860 claimed to

00:27:01.580 have an

00:27:01.900 alien body

00:27:02.760 that turned

00:27:03.440 out to be

00:27:03.860 the bones

00:27:04.380 of a

00:27:04.980 deformed

00:27:05.440 human child.

00:27:07.260 So,

00:27:08.100 a couple of

00:27:09.080 months ago,

00:27:09.800 Brent,

00:27:10.400 Museum of

00:27:10.980 Tarot,

00:27:11.740 went on my

00:27:12.400 friend Danny

00:27:12.940 Jones' podcast

00:27:13.720 and dropped

00:27:14.320 a bomb on

00:27:15.360 Stephen Greer's

00:27:16.080 career.

00:27:16.960 He brought

00:27:17.560 documentation that

00:27:18.620 he had dug up

00:27:19.420 that seemed to

00:27:20.340 imply that Stephen

00:27:21.520 Greer had a

00:27:22.220 long-lost secret

00:27:23.140 history with

00:27:24.200 Israel that he

00:27:25.260 never seems to

00:27:26.300 mention anymore.

00:27:27.840 Let's watch

00:27:28.320 this clip.

00:27:29.260 The bridegroom

00:27:30.780 is the son of

00:27:33.460 Mr. and

00:27:34.100 Mrs. James

00:27:34.940 Greer of

00:27:36.000 1201 Princeton

00:27:37.360 Avenue.

00:27:37.740 He attended the

00:27:38.980 Appalachian State

00:27:39.960 University and is

00:27:41.440 employed in the

00:27:42.660 information processing

00:27:44.660 department at

00:27:45.460 Bahi World

00:27:46.360 Center.

00:27:47.380 After a trip

00:27:48.040 through Israel,

00:27:49.260 the couple will

00:27:50.740 live in Haifa

00:27:52.220 and work at

00:27:52.980 the Bahá'i

00:27:53.580 World Center?

00:27:54.860 Yeah.

00:27:55.560 That's the

00:27:55.920 original marriage

00:27:56.520 notice.

00:27:57.580 Bahá'i was

00:27:58.540 regarded as an

00:28:00.360 intelligence-gathering

00:28:01.300 operation for

00:28:01.980 Mossad.

00:28:09.480 And Stephen

00:28:10.420 Greer worked for

00:28:11.160 these people.

00:28:11.660 And he worked

00:28:12.000 for them.

00:28:12.300 He started with

00:28:12.920 those people.

00:28:14.280 This is before he

00:28:15.500 was an emergency

00:28:16.260 room doctor?

00:28:17.520 I've done a lot

00:28:18.340 of research on

00:28:18.980 Stephen Greer.

00:28:20.120 I don't want to

00:28:20.880 make any claims to

00:28:21.620 get me in any kind

00:28:22.280 of trouble about

00:28:22.880 Stephen Greer, but

00:28:23.600 it doesn't look to

00:28:24.480 me like he had

00:28:25.640 enough time to even

00:28:26.780 do medical school

00:28:27.760 and a residency.

00:28:29.640 And certainly the

00:28:30.840 old newspaper articles

00:28:32.160 don't refer to him

00:28:32.940 as Dr. Greer.

00:28:33.920 It's like he goes

00:28:34.700 right into UFO

00:28:35.520 stuff.

00:28:36.420 So if he worked,

00:28:37.480 there's indication he

00:28:38.540 worked for a very

00:28:39.300 short time at a small

00:28:40.460 hospital in western

00:28:41.540 North Carolina and

00:28:42.860 then went directly

00:28:43.640 into shilling UFOs

00:28:44.820 for Rockefeller.

00:28:46.920 Holy sh**.

00:28:51.880 Danny Jones has

00:28:53.080 talked to a lot of

00:28:53.840 wild people and

00:28:54.480 heard a lot of

00:28:54.960 wild claims and

00:28:56.280 that pause of

00:28:57.580 just what the

00:28:58.800 kills me.

00:29:00.620 But it's always

00:29:02.060 important to

00:29:02.780 double check your

00:29:03.340 sources.

00:29:03.760 It's always important

00:29:04.500 to try to corroborate

00:29:05.320 things for yourself.

00:29:06.320 And so I was able

00:29:07.960 to dig up and

00:29:08.940 corroborate the

00:29:09.640 newspaper clipping

00:29:10.320 that Brent references

00:29:11.440 independently online

00:29:12.880 all on my own.

00:29:14.040 It is pulled from

00:29:15.160 the Charlotte Observer

00:29:16.040 published on

00:29:17.020 Thursday, October

00:29:17.720 30th, 1979.

00:29:20.260 And it says what

00:29:21.840 Danny read on

00:29:22.860 screen.

00:29:23.380 I'll just read a

00:29:24.380 little bit from it

00:29:25.120 right now.

00:29:26.400 Quote, Haifa,

00:29:27.880 Israel.

00:29:28.920 Emily Kramer and

00:29:29.740 Stephen Greer were

00:29:30.600 married Saturday at

00:29:31.800 Baha'i World Center.

00:29:33.420 Further down it says,

00:29:34.660 the bridegroom is the

00:29:36.220 son of Mr. and

00:29:37.100 Mrs. James Greer of

00:29:38.220 1201 Princeton Avenue.

00:29:39.820 He attended

00:29:40.460 Appalachian State

00:29:41.180 University and is

00:29:42.020 employed in the

00:29:42.660 information processing

00:29:43.500 department at

00:29:44.160 Baha'i World Center.

00:29:45.660 After a trip through

00:29:46.380 Israel, the couple

00:29:47.380 will live in Haifa

00:29:48.120 and work at Baha'i

00:29:49.240 World Center.

00:29:50.460 Now, this is

00:29:51.860 interesting for a

00:29:52.760 number of reasons.

00:29:54.220 First, the photo

00:29:55.420 included is clearly

00:29:56.600 identifiable as being

00:29:57.840 the correct Stephen

00:29:58.740 Greer, even though

00:29:59.480 he's much younger.

00:30:00.980 Aside from all the

00:30:01.940 other corroboration as

00:30:02.980 far as where, when,

00:30:04.280 names, etc.

00:30:05.360 So, as Brent points

00:30:06.480 out, Greer never

00:30:07.820 seems to mention

00:30:08.480 Israel all that much

00:30:09.780 these days.

00:30:10.720 And this is right at

00:30:11.700 the age where one

00:30:12.700 would be recruited as

00:30:13.940 an intelligence asset.

00:30:15.300 It also is immediately

00:30:16.560 before he goes out

00:30:17.700 into the world and

00:30:18.740 starts to become the

00:30:19.600 man that the UFO

00:30:20.740 community knows today.

00:30:23.000 Also, an interesting

00:30:24.240 rabbit hole on Baha'i.

00:30:25.920 Baha'i is sort of a

00:30:27.080 universal faith that

00:30:28.140 plays into all religions

00:30:29.440 and has practitioners

00:30:30.640 all around the globe.

00:30:31.700 I'm not familiar with

00:30:32.860 any of the nuances of

00:30:33.920 their beliefs or

00:30:34.480 practices.

00:30:35.640 Brent says Baha'i was

00:30:36.660 widely considered to be

00:30:37.540 an intelligence gathering

00:30:38.300 operation for Mossad.

00:30:40.120 Now, I haven't done the

00:30:41.440 full dive on Baha'i by

00:30:42.580 any means, but Iran

00:30:44.380 certainly thinks that

00:30:45.660 Baha'i is an

00:30:46.360 intelligence operation

00:30:47.160 for Mossad and the

00:30:47.980 CIA.

00:30:48.960 In 2014, there are a

00:30:50.600 small handful of

00:30:51.340 articles referencing

00:30:52.140 claims made by

00:30:53.380 Ahmad Saleh,

00:30:54.780 chairman of Iran's

00:30:55.740 Parliamentary Cultural

00:30:56.660 Commission, and he

00:30:58.060 said, quote,

00:30:58.860 I declare very

00:31:00.380 explicitly that

00:31:01.460 Baha'i ism is an

00:31:02.660 espionage organization

00:31:03.740 which gathers

00:31:04.500 intelligence for the

00:31:05.480 CIA and Mossad, and

00:31:07.120 there are abundant

00:31:07.920 documents to prove

00:31:08.940 this.

00:31:10.020 Now, there is a small

00:31:11.800 handful of Western

00:31:12.540 publications mocking

00:31:13.480 this assertion, which

00:31:14.680 really doesn't give you

00:31:15.740 much to go on.

00:31:16.800 If Baha'i ism isn't an

00:31:18.300 intelligence gathering

00:31:18.980 operation, then the

00:31:20.220 CIA and Mossad are

00:31:21.400 definitely missing out on

00:31:22.840 a convenient opportunity,

00:31:24.120 though, as global

00:31:25.280 groups like niche

00:31:26.620 religions make great

00:31:28.100 espionage covers,

00:31:29.440 Scientology.

00:31:31.580 That being said,

00:31:33.320 maybe Iran just

00:31:34.540 doesn't like the

00:31:35.280 Baha'i, just as they

00:31:36.460 don't like all the

00:31:37.720 other religions.

00:31:38.960 Who knows?

00:31:40.380 Brent also presented

00:31:41.480 Danny with an op-ed

00:31:42.780 piece written by Greer

00:31:44.000 in the late 80s that

00:31:45.260 seems to imply that

00:31:46.620 Stephen Greer may also

00:31:48.160 be secretly gay.

00:31:50.340 Skyler was able to

00:31:51.260 dig that one up, too,

00:31:52.540 and it is a real piece

00:31:53.720 published in the

00:31:54.400 Asheville Citizen on

00:31:55.660 Friday, October 16,

00:31:56.940 1987.

00:31:58.920 It says, in part, I'm

00:32:01.380 just going to read a

00:32:01.820 little bit of it,

00:32:02.780 quote, we feel that

00:32:04.360 the struggle for our

00:32:05.220 civil rights as gay and

00:32:06.540 lesbian citizens is

00:32:07.760 intricately linked to

00:32:09.000 all struggles against

00:32:10.020 racism, sexism, and

00:32:11.800 anti-Semitism in this

00:32:13.000 country and worldwide.

00:32:15.180 Later on, it says,

00:32:16.560 quote, gay and lesbian

00:32:17.620 Americans are everywhere

00:32:18.640 and among everyone.

00:32:19.840 We have fought and

00:32:20.840 died for this country.

00:32:21.820 We are its doctors and

00:32:23.000 nurses, artists and

00:32:24.180 activists, construction

00:32:25.380 workers and social

00:32:26.280 workers, and we are,

00:32:27.460 for the time being,

00:32:28.440 most affected by the

00:32:29.500 AIDS epidemic in the

00:32:30.540 United States.

00:32:32.620 So, Brent makes it

00:32:34.600 very clear that he has

00:32:35.420 nothing against gay

00:32:36.220 people, just that the

00:32:37.720 double life of a

00:32:38.500 closeted gay person is

00:32:39.740 concerning when we're

00:32:40.720 talking about the top

00:32:41.740 representative of the

00:32:42.740 UFO disclosure community

00:32:44.100 who is allegedly

00:32:45.260 briefing presidents and

00:32:46.440 CIA directors on the

00:32:47.480 topic, especially when

00:32:49.340 he has likes to Israel

00:32:50.360 that just never seem to

00:32:51.600 come up.

00:32:52.040 It all seems a little

00:32:53.760 fishy.

00:32:55.060 Now, within this

00:32:56.300 article, we don't have a

00:32:57.420 photo to confirm that

00:32:58.460 it's the right Stephen

00:32:59.180 Greer, but we do have a

00:33:00.440 middle initial, he is a

00:33:01.740 doctor, and there's a

00:33:02.860 connection to Asheville.

00:33:04.160 The Stephen Greer we are

00:33:05.220 talking about matches all

00:33:06.440 of those criteria, so it

00:33:08.020 doesn't seem likely that

00:33:09.340 we're matching this to the

00:33:10.260 wrong Greer.

00:33:11.280 And if it is the same

00:33:12.300 Greer, then it's

00:33:13.420 interesting that he was

00:33:14.300 married in Israel back in

00:33:15.640 the 70s to a woman and

00:33:17.860 then referring to himself as

00:33:19.100 a gay man in the 80s.

00:33:20.920 You know what I'm

00:33:21.360 saying?

00:33:22.140 So, all together, the

00:33:24.320 UFO disclosure corner of

00:33:25.740 the internet is a wild

00:33:26.900 place, and it's an

00:33:28.340 absolute cluster of

00:33:29.700 ex-spooks, current

00:33:30.980 spooks, suspicious

00:33:32.100 characters, dubious

00:33:33.280 stories, and wild

00:33:34.300 claims.

00:33:35.480 Some of them may be

00:33:36.820 legit.

00:33:37.920 Some are most

00:33:38.680 definitely running some

00:33:39.740 sort of hidden agenda.

00:33:40.980 There's really not a lot

00:33:42.480 of clear answers of who

00:33:44.080 is which.

00:33:45.060 And ultimately, it's a

00:33:46.420 cautionary tale to remind

00:33:48.060 us all to think

00:33:49.060 critically.

00:33:49.540 Personally, my favorite

00:33:51.740 evidence for UFOs comes

00:33:53.020 from the telepathy tapes

00:33:54.040 and CIA remote viewing

00:33:55.200 programs.

00:33:56.620 And often, Christians will

00:33:57.940 take this whole topic to be

00:33:59.400 an affront to God.

00:34:00.600 And I argue, not at all.

00:34:02.760 Humans used to think that

00:34:03.920 God's creation was only the

00:34:05.260 Eurasian and African

00:34:06.320 continents.

00:34:07.280 You would be a blasphemer to

00:34:08.460 think differently.

00:34:09.520 God's creation never used to

00:34:10.860 include guns and planes and

00:34:12.380 computers.

00:34:13.440 Ultimately, God's creation is

00:34:15.320 everything.

00:34:16.160 And anything that we observe

00:34:17.440 and see proof of is a part

00:34:19.100 of that design.

00:34:20.180 And to me, one of the most

00:34:21.740 fascinating questions always

00:34:23.260 lurking in the dark corners of

00:34:24.920 every conspiracy convention is

00:34:27.100 aliens.

00:34:28.120 Is there proof?

00:34:29.600 Are they here?

00:34:30.800 And what on earth is really

00:34:32.560 going on?

00:34:33.900 I only know two things about

00:34:35.660 aliens for sure.

00:34:36.920 First, that we don't know for

00:34:38.880 sure.

00:34:39.560 And second, don't trust the

00:34:41.440 government.

00:34:42.840 That's our show for today.

00:34:44.520 Thanks for watching.

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00:34:56.740 you've been enjoying the way

00:34:57.560 that I share evidence and

00:34:58.600 sass and just ultimately

00:34:59.920 encourage everyone to think

00:35:00.900 for themselves.

00:35:02.040 Candace is out with baby

00:35:02.880 Rowan for probably another week

00:35:04.080 or two, but we'll be sure to

00:35:05.200 bring you updates.

00:35:05.960 And so for now, drink your

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Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs ｜ Candace Ep 191

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