Candace Owens - May 29, 2025


Elon Musk, Secret Underground Bases, & UFOs ｜ Candace Ep 191


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

Words per Minute

172.3354

Word Count

6,065

Sentence Count

394

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Candice and Skylar take a deep dive into the dark history of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and discuss whether or not it was passed by President Obama in order to allow the government to propagandize American citizens.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Today, we're talking about boring stuff.
00:00:33.100 And I mean, obviously, Elon Musk's secretive tunnel-digging company,
00:00:37.520 which drops us down a crazy rabbit hole into deep underground military bases.
00:00:42.700 Also, that one time when a running app accidentally exposed secret CIA facilities around the world,
00:00:49.160 and possibly even a secret base under the ice in Antarctica.
00:00:53.320 Then, is Elon Musk lying about his entire identity all the way back to who really founded Tesla?
00:00:58.560 Plus, a huge Israeli operative might have just been exposed in the UFO community.
00:01:04.720 All that and more, today on Candace.
00:01:07.080 So, the other day, I was digging into Elon Musk's boring company.
00:01:25.600 You know, the tunneling company he owns that most people don't know about.
00:01:29.080 I brought that up way back when Candace and I first sat down for our first interview together.
00:01:34.520 And we spoke briefly about it.
00:01:36.180 And it's been on my mind ever since.
00:01:38.420 But I finally sat down to dig into it.
00:01:40.720 And it led me down so many rabbit holes.
00:01:43.940 And by the way, there's going to be a lot of digging puns in this episode.
00:01:47.460 Because the dig is deep, and it's twisted, and we're going to take a lot of interesting detours and side quests.
00:01:52.860 But trust me, by the end, it's going to paint quite the picture.
00:01:57.160 So, let's start where I started on Wikispooks.
00:02:02.080 Wikispooks, if you're not familiar, is a wild ride.
00:02:05.740 It's like Wikipedia for conspiracy theorists.
00:02:08.840 And it's crowdsourced and probably not controlled by Masada, the CIA, yet.
00:02:14.180 Although you should obviously always double-check everything for yourself, especially on a place like Wikispooks.
00:02:19.540 And the nice thing about Wikispooks is that it looks pretty low-budget.
00:02:23.940 And it constantly reminds you not to trust it as a primary source.
00:02:28.140 But the other thing that I love about Wikispooks is that it is peppered with links to primary sources on all kinds of stuff.
00:02:34.780 And some of them are pretty crazy.
00:02:36.780 If you want to absolutely crush an afternoon, just go dig around in the 9-11 Wikispooks page.
00:02:43.040 They've got a lot of gems hiding in there.
00:02:45.700 So, anyways, I wound up on the Wikispooks page for deep underground military bases.
00:02:51.400 And it had this section on the NDAA from 2013.
00:02:55.480 Side note, Obama tacked on the Smith-Munt Modernization Act to the 2013 NDAA,
00:03:01.380 basically ensuring that it would pass, which it did.
00:03:04.020 And that was when the U.S. government officially legalized itself propagandizing the American people.
00:03:09.880 Skylar, do we have the AP fact check pulled up that we can show everybody?
00:03:13.880 Because it was pretty funny.
00:03:15.880 So, obviously, AP knows what they're talking about.
00:03:20.020 And if you wanted to know whether it was legal to propagandize U.S. citizens, AP's got your back.
00:03:24.880 Because the claim is that Obama signed into law this thing that will allow the government to propagandize American citizens.
00:03:32.860 But AP's assessment is that's false.
00:03:35.100 In 2013, Obama signed legislation that changed the U.S. Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948,
00:03:41.300 also known as the Smith-Munt Act.
00:03:42.860 The amendment made it possible for some materials created by the U.S. Agency for Global Media,
00:03:48.640 the nation's foreign broadcasting agency, to be disseminated in the U.S.
00:03:51.820 So, false.
00:03:53.920 They're not propagandizing you.
00:03:56.560 But they're just sharing a little titsy-bitsy of propaganda with you.
00:04:03.300 Obviously.
00:04:03.900 And if you're not familiar with the NDAA, by the way, it's the National Defense Authorization Act,
00:04:09.940 which is basically the annual budget bill for the Department of Defense,
00:04:12.980 hence why it was guaranteed to pass, more or less.
00:04:16.000 And this is a good place to start us off.
00:04:18.740 Because the first thing you should always do is double-check your source.
00:04:21.740 So, in this case, I was able to follow Wikispook's links and search the page for the text
00:04:27.060 to find that this same information is verifiable on sites like govtrack.us.
00:04:31.460 And this does appear to be actual text from the NDAA in 2013.
00:04:36.200 And I'm not surprised by this.
00:04:38.160 Because the military takes underground military facilities and capabilities very seriously.
00:04:42.880 This specific example is basically an order to STRATCOM, Strategic Command,
00:04:47.240 to find out what secret underground military facilities and capabilities China has
00:04:51.300 and figure out how hard it would be to nuke them if we wanted to.
00:04:55.200 Which is a kind of uncomfortable scenario to consider
00:04:58.400 if you think it through for just a few minutes.
00:05:01.480 But anyways, underground military bases are not new.
00:05:05.740 This is a 1953 CIA report that was declassified in 2003,
00:05:10.680 detailing how the Soviet Union had taken control of
00:05:13.340 and was rebuilding Nazi underground military base infrastructure in Rastenburg,
00:05:17.880 which is northeast Poland, after World War II.
00:05:20.460 When the Germans retreated from East Prussia in 1945, the German army headquarters at Rastenburg was left intact.
00:05:26.900 It is claimed that the advancing Red Army scarcely noticed anything special about this region,
00:05:31.220 where the, quote, brain of the German army was located during the war.
00:05:35.180 Seen from the surface, it was only an area of lakes and forests,
00:05:37.900 which covered the gigantic underground city measuring 38 kilometers long and three to five kilometers wide.
00:05:44.140 The region is crossed by the railroad, which runs from Kaliningrad to Bialystok.
00:05:48.680 The underground military city is equipped with a communication system, which is completely electrified.
00:05:52.780 There are three electric power plants, which function independently of each other,
00:05:56.340 and water tanks and a water system supplying the underground shelters, barracks,
00:06:00.240 officers' quarters, and the luxurious staff rooms.
00:06:02.300 All parts of the headquarters are connected by telephone and also by a pneumatic dispatch tube system.
00:06:07.840 There are also large military warehouses and garages and underground hangars,
00:06:12.160 all at a depth of at least 30 meters below the surface.
00:06:15.620 It's pretty wild to think back to civilian technology in the 1940s,
00:06:19.740 when this stuff was being constructed during wartime, mind you.
00:06:24.200 And think about how vastly different the resources and technology available to a nation's military are
00:06:30.200 from those available to their citizens.
00:06:32.720 I'm just going to read a little bit of this one.
00:06:34.760 Same document.
00:06:36.120 Excerpt from it says,
00:06:37.260 It took the Germans six years to construct this military city,
00:06:40.840 the best camouflaged underground city in the world.
00:06:43.620 Hitler stayed there much of the time during the Russian campaign.
00:06:46.720 The headquarters had direct wire connections with Berlin,
00:06:49.540 a very powerful radio station and a radar system.
00:06:51.940 There are a number of airfields scattered around the area,
00:06:54.820 which are connected with the actual headquarters by underground passageways.
00:06:58.400 The rest of the page describes how the German mines that they left to protect the site
00:07:02.220 were eventually cleared and the sites captured by the Soviets.
00:07:05.380 Now, it's pretty easy to start going down crazy rabbit holes of Nazis escaping to Argentina
00:07:10.140 and Antarctica, hiding underground and all that jazz.
00:07:13.040 Most history textbooks like to gloss over that a whole bunch of them just came to America,
00:07:19.020 hosted by the CIA, and then were instrumental in things like our biological and chemical weapons programs,
00:07:24.500 our mind control experiments, and NASA.
00:07:26.980 Our space program was founded by one of the lead Nazi rocket scientists,
00:07:31.000 Wernher von Braun.
00:07:32.000 And we'll come back to a neat tidbit about him a little later.
00:07:34.720 But the crazy thing is that the underground bases in Antarctica tinfoil isn't just tinfoil.
00:07:41.080 Maybe.
00:07:42.440 Now, I don't know about secret Nazi bases in Antarctica,
00:07:45.340 but I do know about that one time when Strava accidentally showed the locations of secret bases all around the world.
00:07:52.220 So, time for our first crazy detour.
00:07:54.780 This is a true story.
00:07:56.860 Back in 2017, when Strava launched their heat map feature,
00:08:00.220 American soldiers and operatives accidentally broadcast the exact layout of secret bases online to Strava,
00:08:07.460 one of the most popular running apps.
00:08:09.800 You see, Strava has this feature where as you record your runs through your watch or your telephone or whatever,
00:08:16.440 it stores that GPS data and then it anonymously uploads it to their global heat map,
00:08:21.240 which shows where we all run and how much traffic different routes get.
00:08:25.020 It's actually incredibly cool and super useful.
00:08:27.280 For example, I spent the last couple months living in Austin, Texas,
00:08:30.840 and I would use the Strava heat map to look around for trails and cool places to run.
00:08:35.280 The brighter the line, the more people run there.
00:08:37.640 It's a great way to find fun adventures.
00:08:39.740 Also, apparently, an all-right way to find secret military bases hidden all around the world.
00:08:45.440 I guess when you're stationed to a top-secret base, there's probably not a whole lot to do,
00:08:49.800 and you probably aren't allowed to just go off base for a jog in your spare time.
00:08:53.480 If so, people were logging their runs and walks on base,
00:08:57.200 not realizing that it would upload to the global heat map.
00:09:00.740 This is coming from The Guardian.
00:09:02.480 In Syria, known coalition, i.e. U.S. bases, light up the night,
00:09:07.620 writes an analyst, Tobias Schneider.
00:09:09.620 Some light markers over known Russian positions,
00:09:13.220 no notable coloring for Iranian bases.
00:09:15.420 A lot of people are going to have to sit through lectures come Monday morning.
00:09:19.060 In locations like Afghanistan, Djibouti, and Syria,
00:09:22.140 the users of Strava seem to be almost exclusively foreign military personnel,
00:09:26.180 meaning that bases stand out brightly.
00:09:28.480 In Helmand province, Afghanistan, for instance,
00:09:30.600 the locations of forward operating bases can be clearly seen,
00:09:33.820 glowing white against the black map.
00:09:35.720 Because all the Afghanis and all the people over there are not using Strava.
00:09:40.400 And so the places where Westerners are stationed and are recording their movements
00:09:44.620 are very easy to spot.
00:09:47.540 And now, these bases probably weren't exactly secret,
00:09:51.480 but it's still pretty awkward.
00:09:53.340 We're just publishing a roadmap of all of our forward bases
00:09:56.700 for anyone that wants to, to just browse through.
00:10:00.240 But then, the internet completely lost its mind
00:10:03.160 when someone found this weird data in Antarctica
00:10:06.080 shaped like a trapezoid on the heat map.
00:10:09.400 Conspiracy boards on Reddit gobbled it up
00:10:11.780 and started cooking up all kinds of crazy theories.
00:10:15.200 And from a distance,
00:10:16.240 it appears to just be in some random location in Antarctica.
00:10:19.700 You zoom in,
00:10:20.600 and you see that there's some sort of research station there,
00:10:23.300 but theories about an underground base started to spread.
00:10:26.920 And although there may be underground bases in Antarctica,
00:10:30.120 eventually cooler heads prevailed
00:10:31.900 when someone realized that that's where they host
00:10:34.540 the Antarctic Ice Marathon,
00:10:36.300 which is still pretty wild,
00:10:38.480 those people are their own kind of crazy.
00:10:41.040 But it's not a secret Nazi UFO base.
00:10:44.440 And although the Strava data did yield some likely candidates
00:10:47.680 for secret CIA bases abroad,
00:10:49.800 where they technically were not supposed to be at the time,
00:10:53.260 a lot of popular underground base theories came up empty-handed.
00:10:56.880 No secret tunnels lit up the Denver airport.
00:10:59.080 No secret tunnels linked the Getty Museum
00:11:01.720 to billionaire mansions in Hollywood,
00:11:03.380 at least not on Strava.
00:11:04.940 And that should be expected
00:11:06.240 because you can't record your GPS data from underground.
00:11:09.600 So obviously, we weren't exactly expecting
00:11:12.020 Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama
00:11:13.660 to record their secret walks
00:11:15.000 to and from a hot dog and a pizza party.
00:11:17.800 But there is evidence
00:11:19.780 that sketchy stuff is going on underground.
00:11:21.780 For example,
00:11:23.720 the Finders cult is an endearing mystery
00:11:25.640 that would take an entire episode to dig into.
00:11:27.860 But in short,
00:11:28.980 a preschool was found
00:11:29.920 to have a whole tunnel system underneath it.
00:11:32.140 Links to satanic ritual abuse
00:11:33.480 and then direct links to CIA involvement came out.
00:11:37.360 And that's when it all got covered up
00:11:39.140 and labeled conspiracy,
00:11:40.660 pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
00:11:43.440 Then there is the more recent scandal
00:11:45.440 at Chabad Lubavitch in New York,
00:11:47.600 one of the biggest synagogues
00:11:48.920 of one of the most prominent sects
00:11:50.300 of ultra-Orthodox Judaism,
00:11:52.240 where it was revealed
00:11:53.120 that they had dug tunnels and rooms
00:11:55.040 into the ground underneath the building.
00:11:57.360 The official story
00:11:58.260 is that it was just a bunch of pesky kids
00:12:00.500 trying to expand the synagogue.
00:12:02.860 This sect, I would mention,
00:12:04.720 is what I can only describe as a textbook cult.
00:12:08.420 And none of us will ever forget
00:12:09.840 the stained child-sized mattress
00:12:11.620 that was pulled from the tunnel in all the mayhem.
00:12:14.880 I think we all have some questions,
00:12:16.820 but not a lot of answers.
00:12:17.840 Those are just a few of the spicier scandals
00:12:20.780 involving tunnels lately.
00:12:22.260 But all you need to do
00:12:23.540 is go to the Wikipedia page titled
00:12:25.400 Underground City,
00:12:26.820 and you'll immediately see
00:12:27.880 why there are so many tunnel conspiracy theories.
00:12:31.240 The first photo on the page
00:12:32.520 is a reference to Crystal City, Virginia,
00:12:34.720 which I couldn't help but notice
00:12:36.200 is just a few miles from downtown DC.
00:12:38.440 So I obviously had to click on that.
00:12:41.420 I'm just going to read from the Wikipedia page
00:12:43.120 a little bit here for you.
00:12:45.100 Quote,
00:12:45.420 Crystal City includes
00:12:47.060 several aerospace manufacturing
00:12:48.840 and defense industry companies,
00:12:50.640 public sector consulting firms,
00:12:52.300 government contractors,
00:12:53.540 the U.S. Department of Labor,
00:12:54.860 the U.S. Marshal Service,
00:12:56.160 satellite offices for the Pentagon,
00:12:57.840 and various nonprofit organizations.
00:13:00.940 Interesting.
00:13:02.420 Go figure.
00:13:03.960 All the defense contractors,
00:13:05.620 consulting firms,
00:13:06.400 and government agency buildings
00:13:07.620 are sitting on top of a massive tunnel network.
00:13:09.940 There's obviously a similar,
00:13:11.940 probably far more robust tunnel network
00:13:13.820 underneath DC proper.
00:13:16.760 Seriously.
00:13:18.020 The Wikipedia page for Underground City
00:13:19.960 is this long.
00:13:22.260 And that's just what's on Wikipedia.
00:13:24.460 It goes on and on,
00:13:25.680 describing tunnels all over the world,
00:13:27.640 underneath all kinds of cities,
00:13:29.400 and it's got all kinds of links.
00:13:31.260 And I would invite you
00:13:32.360 to go check it out
00:13:33.540 and just do a little digging,
00:13:35.860 so to speak.
00:13:36.540 So I just had to laugh, though,
00:13:39.660 where it tells us
00:13:40.560 about the tunnels
00:13:41.580 underneath Richmond, Virginia.
00:13:43.520 And then it says,
00:13:44.800 quote,
00:13:45.320 the purpose of the tunnels
00:13:46.600 is not generally known.
00:13:48.860 Okay.
00:13:49.740 Whatever, guys.
00:13:51.620 Dig into this stuff deep enough,
00:13:53.180 and you'll wind up
00:13:54.100 at that one time
00:13:55.180 back in the 70s
00:13:56.180 when the U.S. government
00:13:57.000 patented
00:13:57.560 a nuclear tunnel boring machine.
00:14:02.280 Here is that patent
00:14:03.400 filed on behalf
00:14:04.660 of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission.
00:14:06.540 But the official story
00:14:08.200 is that the project
00:14:09.300 never got off the ground
00:14:10.520 and was transferred
00:14:11.460 between agencies
00:14:12.300 before being buried
00:14:13.900 and retired.
00:14:15.400 And who knows?
00:14:16.560 Maybe that is what happened.
00:14:18.040 But one thing is for sure.
00:14:19.840 Something has been digging
00:14:21.180 all this underground infrastructure.
00:14:23.040 And we all know
00:14:24.060 that if this is what
00:14:25.040 they're telling us about,
00:14:26.580 Lord knows
00:14:27.580 that they aren't telling us
00:14:29.120 about other things.
00:14:31.000 And in a moment,
00:14:32.280 we're going to go into Elon Musk
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00:14:34.700 in this whole story.
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00:16:51.600 about Elon Musk.
00:16:53.380 Because one of his
00:16:54.140 least talked about companies
00:16:55.420 is called
00:16:56.020 The Boring Company.
00:16:56.920 And he's got big plans
00:16:58.820 for building
00:16:59.280 underground infrastructure
00:17:00.320 all over the world.
00:17:02.240 He has since raised money
00:17:03.400 from his PayPal boys,
00:17:04.660 Peter Thiel
00:17:05.240 and Joe Lonsdale,
00:17:07.040 in other words,
00:17:08.180 Palantir.
00:17:09.200 And although certainly
00:17:10.360 there are a lot
00:17:11.200 of legitimate reasons
00:17:12.180 why better tunnel-jading
00:17:13.320 technology could make
00:17:14.380 the world better
00:17:15.040 for all of us,
00:17:16.180 I can think of lots
00:17:17.000 of reasons why
00:17:17.800 these defense industry-aligned
00:17:19.460 folks might have
00:17:20.700 other things in mind.
00:17:22.080 I don't know of any
00:17:23.300 secret government contracts
00:17:24.580 held by The Boring Company
00:17:25.760 right now, but let's
00:17:27.360 just say that if he
00:17:28.580 doesn't already have
00:17:29.520 them, you can bet
00:17:31.580 that he will soon.
00:17:33.320 But, while we're on
00:17:34.880 the topic of Elon Musk,
00:17:36.300 I spoke with Candace
00:17:37.340 a few weeks back
00:17:38.180 about Elon Musk's
00:17:39.660 gaming scandal
00:17:40.380 and the implications
00:17:41.620 of it.
00:17:42.840 Now, I haven't played
00:17:44.280 any video games
00:17:45.000 in like nearly a decade,
00:17:46.600 so I thought I'd
00:17:47.540 take it over to a dude
00:17:48.580 who knows what he's
00:17:49.160 talking about
00:17:49.820 and let YouTuber
00:17:51.000 Quinn69TV
00:17:52.300 get us started.
00:17:53.440 Elon Musk's
00:17:55.440 character
00:17:56.060 is currently
00:17:57.460 level 97
00:17:58.560 aka rank 12
00:18:00.760 on hardcore,
00:18:02.040 that's permanent
00:18:02.540 death mode
00:18:03.240 trade league.
00:18:04.340 Let me try to give you
00:18:04.900 a quick understanding
00:18:06.260 as to how hard
00:18:07.100 it is to get
00:18:08.180 to that level.
00:18:08.820 Two weeks into the league
00:18:10.020 when people are
00:18:11.180 playing the game,
00:18:12.180 literally,
00:18:12.720 they're staying up
00:18:13.380 40 to 50 hours
00:18:14.720 without sleeping,
00:18:16.180 only playing
00:18:16.980 Path of Exile
00:18:17.600 and they are
00:18:19.200 the most try-hard
00:18:20.560 guys in the world.
00:18:22.140 His bags are full
00:18:23.100 and he just keeps
00:18:23.720 clicking it over
00:18:24.480 and over and over
00:18:25.100 again.
00:18:25.680 Nobody,
00:18:26.380 not even people
00:18:27.700 who are kind of
00:18:29.000 noobs at the game
00:18:29.780 do this.
00:18:30.320 I don't even think
00:18:31.020 Elon Musk has done
00:18:31.740 the campaign,
00:18:32.360 honestly,
00:18:32.880 like just based on
00:18:33.900 what I'm seeing
00:18:34.280 in terms of the
00:18:34.680 gameplay.
00:18:35.200 His settings on
00:18:35.940 the map transparency
00:18:36.780 are turned on by
00:18:37.400 default,
00:18:37.860 his life values
00:18:38.880 are turned on,
00:18:39.920 all these basic
00:18:40.620 settings that anyone
00:18:41.640 in the top 100
00:18:42.640 would do,
00:18:44.100 he is not doing.
00:18:45.160 And if you needed
00:18:45.760 any more proof
00:18:46.480 that Elon is 100%
00:18:47.860 boosted,
00:18:48.380 he was playing
00:18:49.320 the game today
00:18:50.540 inside of maps
00:18:51.780 blasting while
00:18:53.340 simultaneously on
00:18:54.980 a X space
00:18:56.860 talking to like
00:18:57.840 some far right
00:18:58.880 wing part of
00:18:59.660 some German
00:19:00.280 government,
00:19:00.840 I don't know,
00:19:01.300 some political
00:19:01.840 bulls**t.
00:19:03.020 Okay,
00:19:03.240 I guess he's just
00:19:03.820 that much of a
00:19:04.360 god gamer.
00:19:06.280 So,
00:19:07.020 at this point
00:19:08.260 as of today,
00:19:09.800 he has confessed
00:19:10.760 to paying people
00:19:11.780 to level up
00:19:12.480 and play his
00:19:13.000 characters for him.
00:19:14.320 And don't worry,
00:19:15.560 we're not going to
00:19:16.260 nerd out super hard
00:19:17.400 here on this,
00:19:18.480 but we're just
00:19:18.900 going to skim the
00:19:19.380 surface for a minute
00:19:20.140 to inspire some
00:19:20.800 questions.
00:19:22.320 But before we get
00:19:23.220 into this,
00:19:24.620 it's important to
00:19:25.520 remember,
00:19:26.460 he's bragging,
00:19:28.040 he was bragging
00:19:28.860 at least,
00:19:29.680 on the largest
00:19:30.440 platforms in the
00:19:31.800 world.
00:19:32.720 No mention
00:19:33.340 whatsoever that he
00:19:34.440 cheated to level up
00:19:35.280 his characters.
00:19:36.420 He claimed to be
00:19:37.080 one of the top
00:19:37.940 players in two
00:19:39.280 of the hardest
00:19:40.020 and most competitive
00:19:40.920 video games out
00:19:41.800 there, Diablo 4
00:19:42.960 and Path of Exile 2,
00:19:44.480 on shows like Joe
00:19:45.400 Rogan and Lex
00:19:46.160 Fridman and others.
00:19:47.560 But then,
00:19:48.620 during Trump's
00:19:49.260 inauguration,
00:19:49.960 Elon Musk's
00:19:50.640 character was
00:19:51.260 online,
00:19:52.320 pretty much
00:19:52.740 confirming what
00:19:53.480 everyone was
00:19:53.900 already suspecting.
00:19:55.380 He eventually
00:19:55.920 did admit,
00:19:56.940 sort of through
00:19:57.500 a private chat
00:19:58.440 that he gave
00:19:58.880 permission to be
00:19:59.600 released through
00:20:00.220 a friendly gaming
00:20:01.060 YouTuber that
00:20:02.220 painted it in a
00:20:03.000 pretty good light
00:20:03.700 that he had paid
00:20:04.620 people to play
00:20:05.640 and level up
00:20:06.320 his characters
00:20:06.760 for him.
00:20:07.660 And he gave
00:20:08.100 excuses that all
00:20:09.180 the players in
00:20:09.680 Asia do it,
00:20:10.360 so if you want
00:20:11.340 to beat them,
00:20:12.120 then you have
00:20:12.640 to do it too,
00:20:13.640 and okay,
00:20:14.660 bro,
00:20:15.320 that's cool.
00:20:16.560 But that's not
00:20:17.660 what you claimed
00:20:18.540 on the largest
00:20:19.300 platforms in
00:20:20.200 the world.
00:20:21.380 The YouTube
00:20:21.880 channel,
00:20:22.460 Upper Echelon,
00:20:23.220 did a pretty
00:20:23.820 brutal but thorough
00:20:24.880 breakdown of the
00:20:25.800 whole thing if you
00:20:26.700 want more details.
00:20:27.940 And he posed a
00:20:29.240 really interesting
00:20:29.820 theory that Elon
00:20:30.820 Musk got super
00:20:31.820 clowned on prior
00:20:32.920 to this scandal
00:20:33.680 when he started
00:20:34.340 posting about his
00:20:35.220 play of the game
00:20:36.140 Elden Ring online.
00:20:37.980 Like,
00:20:38.740 his character
00:20:39.320 build,
00:20:40.000 meaning the power-ups
00:20:41.040 and items and armor
00:20:42.220 and stuff that he
00:20:43.000 used was so bad
00:20:44.740 that it became a
00:20:45.800 meme.
00:20:46.040 People started
00:20:46.960 making videos
00:20:47.700 about beating
00:20:48.260 the game with
00:20:49.100 the Elon build.
00:20:50.540 Videos clowning on
00:20:51.740 his build got
00:20:52.400 millions of views.
00:20:53.580 It was a lot.
00:20:55.360 And Upper Echelon
00:20:56.360 suggests the
00:20:57.380 theory that maybe
00:20:58.720 the trolling was so
00:20:59.980 intense during this
00:21:00.860 time two years ago
00:21:01.980 that he later cheated
00:21:03.500 to level up his
00:21:04.340 characters as some
00:21:05.640 sort of psychological
00:21:06.900 comeback at all the
00:21:08.280 nerds that had made
00:21:09.320 fun of him.
00:21:10.120 And obviously,
00:21:11.020 that's just a theory.
00:21:12.300 But it's a pretty
00:21:13.920 compelling one.
00:21:14.600 It becomes more
00:21:16.300 compelling when you
00:21:17.160 remember that Bro
00:21:18.120 didn't found Tesla,
00:21:19.680 his flagship company.
00:21:21.060 This is something
00:21:21.640 of a pattern for him.
00:21:23.960 He has someone else
00:21:25.100 build something out.
00:21:26.380 Then,
00:21:27.100 he buys it from them
00:21:28.020 and takes credit for it
00:21:29.120 without exactly
00:21:30.200 openly discussing
00:21:31.360 the whole truth.
00:21:33.220 Elon Musk
00:21:33.940 was just the bankroll.
00:21:35.700 For the first
00:21:36.120 four years of Tesla,
00:21:37.520 Martin Eberhardt
00:21:38.440 and Mark Tarpening
00:21:39.320 were the guys
00:21:40.320 who had founded Tesla
00:21:41.380 until Musk
00:21:42.840 ousted Martin
00:21:43.620 and fired him
00:21:44.500 in 2007.
00:21:46.220 And nowadays,
00:21:47.420 Elon Musk
00:21:48.020 founded Tesla.
00:21:49.800 He doesn't tend
00:21:50.420 to say he invented
00:21:51.540 Tesla or directly
00:21:52.420 claim it was all him.
00:21:53.880 He tends to say
00:21:54.580 things like
00:21:55.160 back when we
00:21:55.940 founded Tesla.
00:21:56.900 But he certainly
00:21:57.980 doesn't mention
00:21:58.840 Eberhardt ever.
00:22:00.900 But,
00:22:01.620 from Eberhardt's
00:22:02.720 perspective,
00:22:04.060 I quote,
00:22:05.080 Elon is a different
00:22:06.340 person now
00:22:07.100 than he was
00:22:07.920 then.
00:22:08.980 He was no more
00:22:09.880 involved than any
00:22:10.760 other board member.
00:22:11.940 He came to board
00:22:12.720 meetings.
00:22:13.300 He did not have
00:22:13.840 an office at the
00:22:14.520 company.
00:22:15.100 He didn't come
00:22:15.720 there regularly.
00:22:16.660 He did not give
00:22:17.380 direction to my
00:22:18.140 employees,
00:22:18.800 anything like that.
00:22:19.880 He was a board
00:22:20.880 member.
00:22:21.980 So,
00:22:22.820 what changed
00:22:23.560 to make Musk
00:22:24.460 the hands-on CEO
00:22:25.480 that he is today?
00:22:27.060 Well,
00:22:27.880 according to
00:22:28.520 Eberhardt,
00:22:29.320 everything changed
00:22:30.280 when Tesla started
00:22:31.120 to get attention
00:22:31.760 from the press.
00:22:33.360 Quote,
00:22:34.140 his behavior
00:22:34.780 changed dramatically
00:22:35.780 as soon as we
00:22:36.520 started having press
00:22:37.460 about Tesla.
00:22:38.560 He got mad if
00:22:39.340 anything was ever
00:22:40.040 written about Tesla
00:22:40.900 and it didn't
00:22:41.440 feature his name
00:22:42.240 prominently.
00:22:43.300 And that's when I
00:22:43.920 realized that there
00:22:44.940 was an ego involved
00:22:45.900 here that I had not
00:22:46.760 recognized before.
00:22:48.520 Eberhardt used to
00:22:49.200 have the nickname
00:22:49.860 Mr. Tesla.
00:22:51.060 And he said that
00:22:51.840 any time Musk
00:22:52.700 wasn't mentioned
00:22:53.480 in an article
00:22:54.060 about the company,
00:22:55.060 he would call
00:22:55.800 and scream
00:22:56.580 at Eberhardt.
00:22:57.820 Now,
00:22:58.480 that sounds like
00:22:59.380 the kind of guy
00:23:00.120 that would get
00:23:00.860 butthurt about
00:23:01.960 gamers making fun
00:23:03.120 of him and
00:23:03.860 cheat to level up
00:23:04.760 to be one of the
00:23:05.460 best.
00:23:06.240 In fact,
00:23:07.100 that starts to
00:23:07.660 align quite well
00:23:08.660 with Musk's
00:23:09.460 apparently abusive
00:23:10.380 but extremely
00:23:11.040 wealthy childhood,
00:23:12.300 his problems
00:23:12.720 with his father
00:23:13.380 and his apparent
00:23:14.000 insatiable drive
00:23:15.120 for success
00:23:15.880 and recognition
00:23:16.900 today.
00:23:18.240 Eventually,
00:23:19.260 after a defamation
00:23:20.120 lawsuit and settlement,
00:23:21.700 Musk purchased
00:23:22.360 the right to
00:23:23.140 call himself
00:23:24.000 a founder of
00:23:24.760 Tesla and
00:23:25.580 Eberhardt
00:23:26.180 presumably
00:23:26.760 took a pretty
00:23:27.580 payout and
00:23:28.420 agreed to never
00:23:29.040 disparage Elon Musk
00:23:30.080 again.
00:23:30.960 But then,
00:23:31.860 on the other hand,
00:23:32.900 it's not as simple
00:23:33.640 as flipping your
00:23:34.300 opinion and hating
00:23:35.300 Elon Musk as an
00:23:36.220 eternal fraudster,
00:23:37.360 right?
00:23:37.600 He did pour
00:23:38.960 all of his
00:23:39.560 money into
00:23:40.000 Tesla when
00:23:40.700 success was
00:23:41.360 not certain
00:23:42.060 and then again
00:23:42.980 with SpaceX,
00:23:43.840 which he did
00:23:44.540 found.
00:23:45.500 He bet the
00:23:46.100 farm on
00:23:46.760 SpaceX when
00:23:47.440 his first
00:23:47.820 three rocket
00:23:48.300 launches failed
00:23:48.920 and both
00:23:49.620 SpaceX and
00:23:50.460 Tesla were
00:23:51.020 on the verge
00:23:51.620 of bankruptcy
00:23:52.080 and it's
00:23:52.620 actually a
00:23:53.140 pretty wild
00:23:53.840 story.
00:23:54.680 And it's
00:23:54.980 hard not to
00:23:55.680 respect the
00:23:56.260 guy for the
00:23:57.300 sheer tenacity
00:23:58.220 of it all,
00:23:59.160 even if a lot
00:24:00.060 of it was just
00:24:00.680 money.
00:24:01.620 But I guess
00:24:02.800 the point here
00:24:03.400 is that they're
00:24:04.180 both stories
00:24:05.100 and there's
00:24:05.800 always more
00:24:06.380 than one
00:24:06.880 side of a
00:24:07.780 story.
00:24:08.460 And when
00:24:08.720 Elon tells
00:24:09.400 them,
00:24:09.860 he's the
00:24:10.180 hero.
00:24:10.820 He was up
00:24:11.260 against all
00:24:11.920 odds and he
00:24:12.640 narrowly snatched
00:24:13.480 victory from the
00:24:14.220 jaws of defeat.
00:24:15.340 When other
00:24:15.720 people tell it,
00:24:16.760 you see other
00:24:17.440 sides of the
00:24:18.040 story that
00:24:18.700 Elon seems to
00:24:19.680 have conveniently
00:24:20.400 left out.
00:24:22.160 My point is
00:24:23.500 not to say that
00:24:24.180 Elon is always
00:24:25.000 a liar,
00:24:25.560 but rather to
00:24:26.180 show that
00:24:26.920 Elon is willing
00:24:27.640 to bend the
00:24:28.260 truth to meet
00:24:29.420 the demands of
00:24:30.160 his ego,
00:24:30.880 his image,
00:24:31.560 and his
00:24:32.000 larger goal.
00:24:32.960 And you should
00:24:33.580 be careful of a
00:24:34.300 man with a
00:24:34.800 hero complex
00:24:35.600 that large
00:24:36.600 who we know
00:24:37.440 has lied in
00:24:38.140 the past over
00:24:38.960 something as
00:24:39.560 insubstantial as
00:24:40.720 his prowess at
00:24:41.840 a video game.
00:24:42.900 We'll have to
00:24:43.420 do another
00:24:43.920 dig another
00:24:44.640 day about the
00:24:45.840 Nazi rocket
00:24:46.480 scientist Wernher
00:24:47.280 von Braun who
00:24:48.240 wrote this book
00:24:49.200 in 1953 about
00:24:50.840 a man named
00:24:51.880 Elon that
00:24:52.620 colonized Mars.
00:24:54.240 But first,
00:24:55.460 let's take a
00:24:55.920 quick break to
00:24:56.980 tell you about
00:24:57.480 our sponsor.
00:24:58.160 We're all
00:24:59.000 feeling it.
00:24:59.620 Inflation is
00:25:00.240 eating away at
00:25:01.000 everything.
00:25:01.620 Gas,
00:25:02.220 groceries,
00:25:02.840 home repairs,
00:25:03.540 and if you're
00:25:04.080 a homeowner,
00:25:04.760 you've probably
00:25:05.300 thought,
00:25:05.740 should I call
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00:25:07.080 to refinance
00:25:07.860 and pay off
00:25:08.400 this credit
00:25:08.740 card debt?
00:25:09.880 Then you
00:25:10.300 second-guess
00:25:10.740 yourself because
00:25:11.420 of that low
00:25:12.160 mortgage rate
00:25:12.760 you currently
00:25:13.280 have.
00:25:14.020 Listen,
00:25:14.560 that low
00:25:14.920 rate,
00:25:15.480 it's not
00:25:15.880 saving you
00:25:16.380 if you're
00:25:16.680 drowning in
00:25:17.220 credit card
00:25:17.640 interest at
00:25:18.020 25% or
00:25:18.820 more.
00:25:19.280 That's the
00:25:19.820 math that
00:25:20.160 no one wants
00:25:20.600 to face,
00:25:21.080 but it's
00:25:21.340 costing you
00:25:21.880 thousands.
00:25:22.800 Here's the
00:25:23.140 truth.
00:25:23.680 If you're
00:25:23.940 only making
00:25:24.440 minimum payments,
00:25:25.180 that debt
00:25:25.520 will follow you
00:25:26.080 for years.
00:25:26.960 That's why
00:25:27.300 people are
00:25:27.720 calling American
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00:25:28.980 because they're
00:25:29.460 saving customers
00:25:30.200 an average
00:25:30.640 of $800 a
00:25:31.580 month by
00:25:32.120 using their
00:25:32.540 equity to
00:25:33.000 finally break
00:25:33.560 free from
00:25:34.040 credit card
00:25:34.520 debt.
00:25:34.960 You owe it
00:25:35.500 to your
00:25:35.740 family to
00:25:36.160 see what's
00:25:36.580 possible.
00:25:37.220 No upfront
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00:25:38.300 no pressure.
00:25:38.980 It costs
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00:25:39.840 to find out
00:25:40.440 what you
00:25:40.740 could save
00:25:41.160 every month.
00:25:41.940 And if you
00:25:42.240 start today,
00:25:42.900 you may be
00:25:43.340 able to delay
00:25:43.860 two mortgage
00:25:44.580 payments.
00:25:45.360 Call American
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00:25:46.260 today,
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00:25:49.460 That's
00:25:49.740 800-795-1210.
00:25:52.020 Or visit
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00:25:54.120 slash Owens.
00:25:55.080 So now,
00:25:56.700 speaking of
00:25:57.280 rocket ships
00:25:57.840 and people
00:25:58.440 lying,
00:25:59.480 let's talk
00:25:59.980 about UFOs.
00:26:01.720 Now,
00:26:02.620 I know that
00:26:03.160 a lot of you
00:26:03.600 probably never
00:26:04.320 think about
00:26:04.860 UFOs,
00:26:05.600 and people
00:26:06.080 that do
00:26:06.560 all have
00:26:07.140 wildly
00:26:07.660 different
00:26:07.960 opinions
00:26:08.400 and takes.
00:26:09.200 It's
00:26:09.520 interesting,
00:26:10.440 but also
00:26:10.980 it feels
00:26:11.820 at least
00:26:12.280 a little
00:26:12.660 bit like
00:26:13.100 a side-up.
00:26:14.180 It's
00:26:14.460 dizzying
00:26:14.960 to keep
00:26:15.280 up with
00:26:15.600 all the
00:26:15.880 drama
00:26:16.240 in the
00:26:16.540 UFO
00:26:16.800 community,
00:26:17.440 and without
00:26:17.940 Candace
00:26:18.300 around to
00:26:18.780 give it
00:26:19.000 the Blake
00:26:19.360 Lively
00:26:19.680 treatment,
00:26:20.180 it's
00:26:20.420 largely
00:26:20.980 the
00:26:21.220 wild west
00:26:21.780 of
00:26:21.980 conspiracy
00:26:22.340 theories
00:26:22.720 as far
00:26:23.140 as I'm
00:26:23.440 concerned.
00:26:23.760 But,
00:26:24.960 just recently,
00:26:26.080 a content
00:26:26.580 creator called
00:26:27.260 Museum of
00:26:27.880 Tarot
00:26:28.220 exposed one
00:26:29.140 of the
00:26:29.400 largest and
00:26:30.040 longest-standing
00:26:30.820 UFO influencers
00:26:31.820 to potentially
00:26:32.940 be an
00:26:34.220 Israeli plant,
00:26:36.180 Stephen Greer.
00:26:37.620 If you're not
00:26:38.580 familiar with
00:26:39.100 this dude,
00:26:40.040 he's spent the
00:26:40.600 last 30 years
00:26:41.460 collecting every
00:26:42.460 whistleblower under
00:26:43.340 the sun and
00:26:44.100 compiling their
00:26:44.760 testimony and
00:26:45.460 allegedly running
00:26:46.660 around briefing
00:26:47.300 presidents and
00:26:48.180 CIA directors,
00:26:49.280 etc., about the
00:26:50.320 threat of UFOs
00:26:51.880 and the secret
00:26:52.580 government reverse
00:26:53.420 engineering
00:26:53.920 programs.
00:26:55.160 Some of his
00:26:55.700 claims are
00:26:56.560 believable,
00:26:57.480 and some of
00:26:58.120 them are
00:26:58.400 completely
00:26:58.940 ridiculous,
00:27:00.080 like the
00:27:00.500 time he
00:27:00.860 claimed to
00:27:01.580 have an
00:27:01.900 alien body
00:27:02.760 that turned
00:27:03.440 out to be
00:27:03.860 the bones
00:27:04.380 of a
00:27:04.980 deformed
00:27:05.440 human child.
00:27:07.260 So,
00:27:08.100 a couple of
00:27:09.080 months ago,
00:27:09.800 Brent,
00:27:10.400 Museum of
00:27:10.980 Tarot,
00:27:11.740 went on my
00:27:12.400 friend Danny
00:27:12.940 Jones' podcast
00:27:13.720 and dropped
00:27:14.320 a bomb on
00:27:15.360 Stephen Greer's
00:27:16.080 career.
00:27:16.960 He brought
00:27:17.560 documentation that
00:27:18.620 he had dug up
00:27:19.420 that seemed to
00:27:20.340 imply that Stephen
00:27:21.520 Greer had a
00:27:22.220 long-lost secret
00:27:23.140 history with
00:27:24.200 Israel that he
00:27:25.260 never seems to
00:27:26.300 mention anymore.
00:27:27.840 Let's watch
00:27:28.320 this clip.
00:27:29.260 The bridegroom
00:27:30.780 is the son of
00:27:33.460 Mr. and
00:27:34.100 Mrs. James
00:27:34.940 Greer of
00:27:36.000 1201 Princeton
00:27:37.360 Avenue.
00:27:37.740 He attended the
00:27:38.980 Appalachian State
00:27:39.960 University and is
00:27:41.440 employed in the
00:27:42.660 information processing
00:27:44.660 department at
00:27:45.460 Bahi World
00:27:46.360 Center.
00:27:47.380 After a trip
00:27:48.040 through Israel,
00:27:49.260 the couple will
00:27:50.740 live in Haifa
00:27:52.220 and work at
00:27:52.980 the Bahá'i
00:27:53.580 World Center?
00:27:54.860 Yeah.
00:27:55.560 That's the
00:27:55.920 original marriage
00:27:56.520 notice.
00:27:57.580 Bahá'i was
00:27:58.540 regarded as an
00:28:00.360 intelligence-gathering
00:28:01.300 operation for
00:28:01.980 Mossad.
00:28:09.480 And Stephen
00:28:10.420 Greer worked for
00:28:11.160 these people.
00:28:11.660 And he worked
00:28:12.000 for them.
00:28:12.300 He started with
00:28:12.920 those people.
00:28:14.280 This is before he
00:28:15.500 was an emergency
00:28:16.260 room doctor?
00:28:17.520 I've done a lot
00:28:18.340 of research on
00:28:18.980 Stephen Greer.
00:28:20.120 I don't want to
00:28:20.880 make any claims to
00:28:21.620 get me in any kind
00:28:22.280 of trouble about
00:28:22.880 Stephen Greer, but
00:28:23.600 it doesn't look to
00:28:24.480 me like he had
00:28:25.640 enough time to even
00:28:26.780 do medical school
00:28:27.760 and a residency.
00:28:29.640 And certainly the
00:28:30.840 old newspaper articles
00:28:32.160 don't refer to him
00:28:32.940 as Dr. Greer.
00:28:33.920 It's like he goes
00:28:34.700 right into UFO
00:28:35.520 stuff.
00:28:36.420 So if he worked,
00:28:37.480 there's indication he
00:28:38.540 worked for a very
00:28:39.300 short time at a small
00:28:40.460 hospital in western
00:28:41.540 North Carolina and
00:28:42.860 then went directly
00:28:43.640 into shilling UFOs
00:28:44.820 for Rockefeller.
00:28:46.920 Holy sh**.
00:28:51.880 Danny Jones has
00:28:53.080 talked to a lot of
00:28:53.840 wild people and
00:28:54.480 heard a lot of
00:28:54.960 wild claims and
00:28:56.280 that pause of
00:28:57.580 just what the
00:28:58.800 kills me.
00:29:00.620 But it's always
00:29:02.060 important to
00:29:02.780 double check your
00:29:03.340 sources.
00:29:03.760 It's always important
00:29:04.500 to try to corroborate
00:29:05.320 things for yourself.
00:29:06.320 And so I was able
00:29:07.960 to dig up and
00:29:08.940 corroborate the
00:29:09.640 newspaper clipping
00:29:10.320 that Brent references
00:29:11.440 independently online
00:29:12.880 all on my own.
00:29:14.040 It is pulled from
00:29:15.160 the Charlotte Observer
00:29:16.040 published on
00:29:17.020 Thursday, October
00:29:17.720 30th, 1979.
00:29:20.260 And it says what
00:29:21.840 Danny read on
00:29:22.860 screen.
00:29:23.380 I'll just read a
00:29:24.380 little bit from it
00:29:25.120 right now.
00:29:26.400 Quote, Haifa,
00:29:27.880 Israel.
00:29:28.920 Emily Kramer and
00:29:29.740 Stephen Greer were
00:29:30.600 married Saturday at
00:29:31.800 Baha'i World Center.
00:29:33.420 Further down it says,
00:29:34.660 the bridegroom is the
00:29:36.220 son of Mr. and
00:29:37.100 Mrs. James Greer of
00:29:38.220 1201 Princeton Avenue.
00:29:39.820 He attended
00:29:40.460 Appalachian State
00:29:41.180 University and is
00:29:42.020 employed in the
00:29:42.660 information processing
00:29:43.500 department at
00:29:44.160 Baha'i World Center.
00:29:45.660 After a trip through
00:29:46.380 Israel, the couple
00:29:47.380 will live in Haifa
00:29:48.120 and work at Baha'i
00:29:49.240 World Center.
00:29:50.460 Now, this is
00:29:51.860 interesting for a
00:29:52.760 number of reasons.
00:29:54.220 First, the photo
00:29:55.420 included is clearly
00:29:56.600 identifiable as being
00:29:57.840 the correct Stephen
00:29:58.740 Greer, even though
00:29:59.480 he's much younger.
00:30:00.980 Aside from all the
00:30:01.940 other corroboration as
00:30:02.980 far as where, when,
00:30:04.280 names, etc.
00:30:05.360 So, as Brent points
00:30:06.480 out, Greer never
00:30:07.820 seems to mention
00:30:08.480 Israel all that much
00:30:09.780 these days.
00:30:10.720 And this is right at
00:30:11.700 the age where one
00:30:12.700 would be recruited as
00:30:13.940 an intelligence asset.
00:30:15.300 It also is immediately
00:30:16.560 before he goes out
00:30:17.700 into the world and
00:30:18.740 starts to become the
00:30:19.600 man that the UFO
00:30:20.740 community knows today.
00:30:23.000 Also, an interesting
00:30:24.240 rabbit hole on Baha'i.
00:30:25.920 Baha'i is sort of a
00:30:27.080 universal faith that
00:30:28.140 plays into all religions
00:30:29.440 and has practitioners
00:30:30.640 all around the globe.
00:30:31.700 I'm not familiar with
00:30:32.860 any of the nuances of
00:30:33.920 their beliefs or
00:30:34.480 practices.
00:30:35.640 Brent says Baha'i was
00:30:36.660 widely considered to be
00:30:37.540 an intelligence gathering
00:30:38.300 operation for Mossad.
00:30:40.120 Now, I haven't done the
00:30:41.440 full dive on Baha'i by
00:30:42.580 any means, but Iran
00:30:44.380 certainly thinks that
00:30:45.660 Baha'i is an
00:30:46.360 intelligence operation
00:30:47.160 for Mossad and the
00:30:47.980 CIA.
00:30:48.960 In 2014, there are a
00:30:50.600 small handful of
00:30:51.340 articles referencing
00:30:52.140 claims made by
00:30:53.380 Ahmad Saleh,
00:30:54.780 chairman of Iran's
00:30:55.740 Parliamentary Cultural
00:30:56.660 Commission, and he
00:30:58.060 said, quote,
00:30:58.860 I declare very
00:31:00.380 explicitly that
00:31:01.460 Baha'i ism is an
00:31:02.660 espionage organization
00:31:03.740 which gathers
00:31:04.500 intelligence for the
00:31:05.480 CIA and Mossad, and
00:31:07.120 there are abundant
00:31:07.920 documents to prove
00:31:08.940 this.
00:31:10.020 Now, there is a small
00:31:11.800 handful of Western
00:31:12.540 publications mocking
00:31:13.480 this assertion, which
00:31:14.680 really doesn't give you
00:31:15.740 much to go on.
00:31:16.800 If Baha'i ism isn't an
00:31:18.300 intelligence gathering
00:31:18.980 operation, then the
00:31:20.220 CIA and Mossad are
00:31:21.400 definitely missing out on
00:31:22.840 a convenient opportunity,
00:31:24.120 though, as global
00:31:25.280 groups like niche
00:31:26.620 religions make great
00:31:28.100 espionage covers,
00:31:29.440 Scientology.
00:31:31.580 That being said,
00:31:33.320 maybe Iran just
00:31:34.540 doesn't like the
00:31:35.280 Baha'i, just as they
00:31:36.460 don't like all the
00:31:37.720 other religions.
00:31:38.960 Who knows?
00:31:40.380 Brent also presented
00:31:41.480 Danny with an op-ed
00:31:42.780 piece written by Greer
00:31:44.000 in the late 80s that
00:31:45.260 seems to imply that
00:31:46.620 Stephen Greer may also
00:31:48.160 be secretly gay.
00:31:50.340 Skyler was able to
00:31:51.260 dig that one up, too,
00:31:52.540 and it is a real piece
00:31:53.720 published in the
00:31:54.400 Asheville Citizen on
00:31:55.660 Friday, October 16,
00:31:56.940 1987.
00:31:58.920 It says, in part, I'm
00:32:01.380 just going to read a
00:32:01.820 little bit of it,
00:32:02.780 quote, we feel that
00:32:04.360 the struggle for our
00:32:05.220 civil rights as gay and
00:32:06.540 lesbian citizens is
00:32:07.760 intricately linked to
00:32:09.000 all struggles against
00:32:10.020 racism, sexism, and
00:32:11.800 anti-Semitism in this
00:32:13.000 country and worldwide.
00:32:15.180 Later on, it says,
00:32:16.560 quote, gay and lesbian
00:32:17.620 Americans are everywhere
00:32:18.640 and among everyone.
00:32:19.840 We have fought and
00:32:20.840 died for this country.
00:32:21.820 We are its doctors and
00:32:23.000 nurses, artists and
00:32:24.180 activists, construction
00:32:25.380 workers and social
00:32:26.280 workers, and we are,
00:32:27.460 for the time being,
00:32:28.440 most affected by the
00:32:29.500 AIDS epidemic in the
00:32:30.540 United States.
00:32:32.620 So, Brent makes it
00:32:34.600 very clear that he has
00:32:35.420 nothing against gay
00:32:36.220 people, just that the
00:32:37.720 double life of a
00:32:38.500 closeted gay person is
00:32:39.740 concerning when we're
00:32:40.720 talking about the top
00:32:41.740 representative of the
00:32:42.740 UFO disclosure community
00:32:44.100 who is allegedly
00:32:45.260 briefing presidents and
00:32:46.440 CIA directors on the
00:32:47.480 topic, especially when
00:32:49.340 he has likes to Israel
00:32:50.360 that just never seem to
00:32:51.600 come up.
00:32:52.040 It all seems a little
00:32:53.760 fishy.
00:32:55.060 Now, within this
00:32:56.300 article, we don't have a
00:32:57.420 photo to confirm that
00:32:58.460 it's the right Stephen
00:32:59.180 Greer, but we do have a
00:33:00.440 middle initial, he is a
00:33:01.740 doctor, and there's a
00:33:02.860 connection to Asheville.
00:33:04.160 The Stephen Greer we are
00:33:05.220 talking about matches all
00:33:06.440 of those criteria, so it
00:33:08.020 doesn't seem likely that
00:33:09.340 we're matching this to the
00:33:10.260 wrong Greer.
00:33:11.280 And if it is the same
00:33:12.300 Greer, then it's
00:33:13.420 interesting that he was
00:33:14.300 married in Israel back in
00:33:15.640 the 70s to a woman and
00:33:17.860 then referring to himself as
00:33:19.100 a gay man in the 80s.
00:33:20.920 You know what I'm
00:33:21.360 saying?
00:33:22.140 So, all together, the
00:33:24.320 UFO disclosure corner of
00:33:25.740 the internet is a wild
00:33:26.900 place, and it's an
00:33:28.340 absolute cluster of
00:33:29.700 ex-spooks, current
00:33:30.980 spooks, suspicious
00:33:32.100 characters, dubious
00:33:33.280 stories, and wild
00:33:34.300 claims.
00:33:35.480 Some of them may be
00:33:36.820 legit.
00:33:37.920 Some are most
00:33:38.680 definitely running some
00:33:39.740 sort of hidden agenda.
00:33:40.980 There's really not a lot
00:33:42.480 of clear answers of who
00:33:44.080 is which.
00:33:45.060 And ultimately, it's a
00:33:46.420 cautionary tale to remind
00:33:48.060 us all to think
00:33:49.060 critically.
00:33:49.540 Personally, my favorite
00:33:51.740 evidence for UFOs comes
00:33:53.020 from the telepathy tapes
00:33:54.040 and CIA remote viewing
00:33:55.200 programs.
00:33:56.620 And often, Christians will
00:33:57.940 take this whole topic to be
00:33:59.400 an affront to God.
00:34:00.600 And I argue, not at all.
00:34:02.760 Humans used to think that
00:34:03.920 God's creation was only the
00:34:05.260 Eurasian and African
00:34:06.320 continents.
00:34:07.280 You would be a blasphemer to
00:34:08.460 think differently.
00:34:09.520 God's creation never used to
00:34:10.860 include guns and planes and
00:34:12.380 computers.
00:34:13.440 Ultimately, God's creation is
00:34:15.320 everything.
00:34:16.160 And anything that we observe
00:34:17.440 and see proof of is a part
00:34:19.100 of that design.
00:34:20.180 And to me, one of the most
00:34:21.740 fascinating questions always
00:34:23.260 lurking in the dark corners of
00:34:24.920 every conspiracy convention is
00:34:27.100 aliens.
00:34:28.120 Is there proof?
00:34:29.600 Are they here?
00:34:30.800 And what on earth is really
00:34:32.560 going on?
00:34:33.900 I only know two things about
00:34:35.660 aliens for sure.
00:34:36.920 First, that we don't know for
00:34:38.880 sure.
00:34:39.560 And second, don't trust the
00:34:41.440 government.
00:34:42.840 That's our show for today.
00:34:44.520 Thanks for watching.
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