Erika And I Sat Down. Here’s What Happened. ｜ Candace Ep 280
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1 hour and 14 minutes
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Summary
Candace Candace is back and better than ever. She talks about what happened to her at the Turning Point USA event, why she decided to go back to work, and how she handled the backlash she received. She also talks about why she thinks TikTok should be bought by the Mossad.
Transcript
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I just want to say Shabbat Shalom to everybody back at home.
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Happy Hanukkah to our greatest friends and allies.
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And, you know, this is a good time to mention that Israel does have a right to defend itself.
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And TikTok does need to be purchased by the Mossad.
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The amount of people who attacked me for sending out a tweet being like,
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And then I was frozen for four and a half, four hours and 30 minutes just like,
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as I just put all of these talking points into my head.
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I never felt more seen than when he tweeted a lot of years ago,
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just fired my manager because I realized I can't be managed.
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How ridiculous would it have been if I'm doing all of this,
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and then Erica Kirk offers to answer some of these questions.
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No, this is the entire reason we are doing this.
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why can't Turning Point USA just answer basic questions?
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And I can tell you guys that yesterday for four hours and 30 minutes,
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They said you can say, you can ask us any question that you want,
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anything that's on your mind, which I appreciated.
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And some of you guys are thinking, who is they?
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George joined me just for the beginning portion of the conversation
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because he had that thing going on that I told you on the 15th all day.
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And then I brought my cousin Mia, you know, the one that has a really bad attitude.
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They're like, I don't understand what's this person doing here.
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And the reality is she's like always just listening to Cardi B music.
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But she's my cousin and I always have her around.
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But at the table, it was just it was really just the four of us until George left.
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And I will be honest, I did not know what to expect going into the room.
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And I didn't know what Erica's energy was going to be like, if it was going to be more
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of an argument, if there was going to be legal threats.
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So I didn't drink water while I brought my own water.
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And the conversation started with Justin Strife very sensibly saying, what are we looking
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And Erica was very clear that they were sort of most upset with what I obviously a bit of
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a fever pitch when I tweeted that it was a godforsaken company and people should not give
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I just I felt like we weren't getting any answers.
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And then I was getting attacked for asking all meaningful questions that was within their
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And I told you, I definitely my problem in life is that I can rise to anger very quickly.
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I shared with them that I really felt like I was under attack for telling the truth from
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the very beginning, like casually when I mentioned the Catholicism thing.
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I was like, look, I say something in a tribute to him.
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Alex Clark and Andrew Colvett then jump onto a podcast and they're doing that weird interview,
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And that, to me, felt like it was the first, I don't know, the first bit of mud that was
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slung, which their answer for that was, hey, that was a really crazy time.
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And by no means did Erica give any person the authority to go out and say that the Catholicism
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Okay, that kind of obviously was not the meat of the reason that we wanted to sit down.
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I will say I was immediately refreshed by the fact that one of the first things that
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Erica did was she owned the lies, the lies, or rather, I guess they would cage it as miscommunications
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that were coming from various people at the company.
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Like, look, this is a company with 650 people that are employed.
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Everybody at this time is exceedingly emotional.
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And no matter what somebody says on Twitter, they assume that this communication has come
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But they owned right away, which felt great, that if you guys recall, we, Erica sat down
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I actually missed this portion because I didn't get to watch the interview in its entirety.
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And we were pulling clips because a lot was coming out very quickly.
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But there was a portion that was going around that was viral.
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And it was Erica saying that she had Charlie's phone and that Charlie never texted anybody
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the night before saying that he thought that they were going to kill him.
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And that obviously reflected poorly on me because I was the one who said that he did, in fact,
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And then I went on Jimmy Doerr on Friday, Jimmy Doerr's show, and I clarified.
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I said, Andrew Colvett told me specifically that he was one of the people that received
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And then somebody who had access to Dan Flood's communications said that Dan Flood similarly
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They owned that right away and explained, Erica said, that she has Charlie's phone.
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And it turns out that he, like everybody else, communicates on Signal.
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And when she heard me say that, they then went and looked.
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Andrew Colvett received a message the night before.
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And Dan Flood received a message the night before.
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Now, they asked me if I had actually like a concrete copy of what Dan Flood got the night
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And I said, no, somebody told me what it said, which was almost exactly what Andrew said,
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Andrew did not know who they were, who they, that the day that he was referring to were.
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But they clarified that the message that Dan Flood received said the left is going to kill
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I have to trust them on that because I did not see that concrete message.
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And I'm laughing here because you TikTokers are actually out of control.
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You guys are going to be the reason that Israel gets TikTok because you guys are acting a fool
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And the videos were so hilarious of you guys mocking the Barry Weiss interview.
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But I was sort of like, hey, I felt name checked by the podcaster, Candace Owens, this obvious
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And it's interesting to hear Erica say that the reason she didn't ask me to stop in the
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beginning, because she was she was actually learning things from the show.
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She was actually learning things and that I think she similarly felt that Barry Weiss was
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She's trying to write wrong perceived wrongs because I'm against her side.
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That's the reason they put her at CBS is because she's just committed to stacking the
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audience with people that are going to present the pro-Israel cause and talk about anti-Semitism
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And I should also clarify that Barry Weiss obviously picked those questions.
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Like I told you, it wasn't like people were coming to the mic and it was an open mic and
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But Erica said that she knew the general idea, like they were going to mention me and mention
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And but she was not given that specific, the podcaster, Candace Owens question.
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Now, I did not at all recant any of my suspicions.
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And I understand people disagree with me about particular people at Turning Point USA.
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I communicated what I communicated in front of the whole world.
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My skin crawled after I spoke to Terrell Farnsworth, the person who took the cameras down.
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I explained to them, which felt good to have that direct communication, how Terrell lied
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multiple times and that I did not understand why he was there that day.
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They defended what he said, that they were trying something new that day, that they typically
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They typically live stream and I said every college event.
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Well, they said, well, yeah, they live stream the events that are tour stops, but they don't
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live stream like the outside prove me wrong type events.
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And that was something that was new and it required Terrell.
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And I said, even if that was all real, if that was all true, I still didn't feel good
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about the conversation that I had with Terrell.
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And I can't ignore my gut about the many little lies that he told.
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And I obviously do not like the fact that I said, you know, Tyler Boyer lied about this
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thing and said he came up with an excuse and said, well, Terrell was asked to take the camera
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That's the reason he said on Twitter, because the police wanted him to take it down and
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And they said, well, after all of that, yeah, after he took the cameras down, there was a
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police officer or Fed, whoever it was that spoke to him and asked him to secure the footage.
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Well, that makes sense, but it's not a reason for why he took it down immediately.
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It makes sense that as you're investigating, you're going to say, who's got the footage?
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But it didn't make sense to me that Tyler Boyer lied about it.
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And that does not that is never going to change.
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Similarly with Rob McCoy, he makes my skin crawl.
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This is a I look at him and he's a bad person and nobody can make me feel one way or the other
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And this is kind of gets into, I guess, us not knowing the inner workings at Turning
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Point USA, that Rob McCoy actually does not work with Turning Point USA in any capacity
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And so him communicating as he has done, like, I'm the pastor on this, I'm that.
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And when he says that, call him out on that separately from Turning Point USA.
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I was operating under the assumption that he worked for Turning Point USA.
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And I said, if obviously that's wrong, I'm happy to correct that.
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But also, what were we to assume when he hit the stage at the memorial and said, I'm
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America's pastor and then had the Wikipedia updated and said, well, I'm assuming he had
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it updated because who else would do that, that he started Turning Point USA faith.
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So I guess, to be clear, we were just wrong about that.
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And I will have a lot more to say about Rob McCoy and where I believe he fits into a lot
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Now, one piece of this where I was, I still don't understand it and the magic bullet.
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I casually say on the show, hey, I saw the footage.
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And honestly, when I said it, I didn't process how big of a deal that was with the 30-06.
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Very quickly, what happens is Andrew Colvett whips up this tweet about what happened with
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And he said he had, he wanted to address all the discussion that was being had about the
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The surgeon then explained that what he's typically seen on these wounds.
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And the internet clocked it, this miracle, the healthy bone.
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His bone was so healthy and the density was so impressive.
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Quote, his bone was so healthy and the density was so, so impressive that he's like the man of
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It likely would have killed those standing behind him, too.
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And we were just like, that kind of was like the beginning of the WTF, right?
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I feel like that was kind of the beginning of it.
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And immediately, people in the comments responded to Andrew.
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And he said, this individual said, this post is so fake as it would violate HIPAA.
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And then Andrew Colbert replies and says, rest assured, I would not have posted without
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And they confirmed that Andrew spoke to the surgeon, but that they did not know that he
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They did not know that he called up the surgeon.
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So, like, it very much came across to be like Andrew was just flying by the seat of his
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And I was like, that seems very strange to me, because why would a surgeon do that?
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Like, the first thing the surgeon should say is, I can't speak to you.
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In theory, Andrew wasn't even there when Charlie died.
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I don't even know why the surgeon even knows this guy, actually.
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But, you know, Andrew was not one of the people that got into the hospital or anything like
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So this is quite literally the PR guy who's calling the surgeon.
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And so that that just seems that just seems very inappropriate for a person to do, period.
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I brought up Brian Harpole, this interview with Sean Ryan.
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And I think we can believe turning point when they say that they did not approve of this.
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So that was kind of him just getting out there and perhaps trying to rescue his own
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And I think that that only made his reputation worse, actually, because people rightfully
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sense that he wasn't telling the truth in that interview, that he was being cagey,
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that he was saying things that didn't make any sense.
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Again, you constantly have these people that believe, like Brian Harpole, that with enough
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performance, you can sit down and you're just going to convince people that this is real.
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Like I said, these TikTokers are out of control.
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Things that the biggest piece of this that I want to communicate and that I did communicate
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to them and I hope that they took me seriously on this or rather that they that they take
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I said one of the reasons why I really want to sit down is because I want to walk out of
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here and feel confident saying to my audience, hey, like.
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There's stuff going on behind the scenes, but Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk like that more
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will come out, but you can take it from me that this is what happened.
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I was looking to achieve that because there's been a lot of signaling from various people,
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some people who are experts, some people who have been involved in cases that there's
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obviously going to be stuff that the public does not have access to.
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And so it is at least plausible that they have seen very clear footage that we've been
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asking for of Tyler Robinson getting up there and taking the shot like they have access to
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And I said that I want to hear why people feel so confident at Turning Point USA that Tyler
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And at this point, they elected to call the lawyer like, you know, their their lawyer who
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is involved in this case, one of the lawyers that's involved in this case, there's always
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a team of lawyers, especially for something like this.
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Did not make me feel that Tyler Robinson shot Charlie Kirk, it's not make me feel confident
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that Charlie that he didn't or did shoot Charlie Kirk, I was very surprised by this.
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He spoke a very long time, I asked, you know, can you share with me what it is?
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And I said, when you share this with me, I will not say what that thing is.
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That's what we if we want to protect the integrity of the case, I'm not gonna if you say
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I promise I won't say that to the audience, but I will communicate to them that you have
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And no, to the exact contrary, this guy effectively said, not effectively, he said that they have
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OK, so what you have, what we have seen is what they have, what is being discussed publicly.
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You are this whole like non-expert problem with like, well, you don't know.
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It's like what you read, his messages that don't have any dates on it, Tyler Robinson
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And what he explained to me was that that's the affidavit stage.
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And then what takes place now is the investigation is ongoing.
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So right now they're looking for more information.
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And once investigators, they could very well have obviously footage.
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And that is why they might feel that, oh, we're definitely get this prosecution.
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But the reality is, is they don't actually share that information with the victim.
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In this part of the process, they will not know what investigators have discovered.
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They have not seen anything that you have not seen is what I want you to know.
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So with that in mind, I'm sitting here going, why are you signaling?
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Why are why do I feel like the public is being gaslit on this?
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There are so many commentators who have gone out and said to you, it's overwhelming.
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The text messages that don't have a date that don't even sound real.
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I really do want to say that to every commentator that is out there trying to tell the public
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and insisting that if you say it enough times to become real, you're actually just being dishonest.
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And I offered that a more honest way to communicate would be to say, we think he's involved.
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We are very hopeful that throughout this investigation, we are going to get that concrete thing.
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That is like, I just feel like that's really important to let you guys know.
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They will know more in this May hearing, which is the probable cause hearing.
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That's when they get to present the evidence why they are going to stand there before a judge
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and be like, yes, we need to move this forward.
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Until then, okay, until we all get on the same page and understand what else they have,
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I am very confident stating the opposite of all of my, I guess, well-paid peers in that
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I don't believe that Tyler Robinson pulled the trigger.
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And what I also said to them was, and I said this in front of the lawyer because I don't
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I was like, because this person's trying to sell to you that this is solid.
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One of the rules that me and my husband have is that if you have a lawyer that tells you
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like you're a hundred percent going to win, it's very clear that you're going to win.
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A lawyer, even if you, you should 100% win, should be telling you the risks here.
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I feel good about this case, but here's where things could go wrong.
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I want you to understand those risks that are involved.
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And especially given what I told them, which is I'm the only, your lawyers or the investigators
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rather, not their lawyers, because they're not the ones investigating.
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They have not called the one solitary person, as I told you guys, who filmed as he was on
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Remember the guy that's like, oh, there's somebody on the roof and he sees him crouched
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I said, I spoke to that person and his testimony would be devastating to your prosecution.
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He filmed the person on the roof at 12, 23 PM, and he did not see that person take the
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This is a guy who trains people to shoot guns at a range.
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He said that this person was dressed in black tactical gear and there was no recoil.
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That's devastating to, that would be devastating to the prosecution.
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Now they offered back, well, maybe they haven't reached out because they have an even clearer
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They're like, we don't even have to talk to this guy because the video will speak for
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But wouldn't you still want to speak to the other guy so you could prepare, uh, I don't
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I don't like if this investigation is going on and I've apparently, or I feel as though
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Both of the people who filmed videos that day, uh, told me that they weren't reached out
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So I don't, I don't understand what's happening here.
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I don't understand the confidence, I guess is the best way to say this.
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I told them, I do not understand the confidence that is happening.
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Now, another really big thing that happened was they brought me Mikey's call logs.
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And that is why I said, this was a productive meeting.
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I asked every question and they came with the paperwork to show and to answer and to
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explain certain things also, which was, I thought actually kind of sweet that I guess
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I was like kind of looking at things into Mikey and I couldn't find him.
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Uh, and someone said, I think Mikey's not his like real name.
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Like they thought it was his middle name actually.
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And I just assumed, okay, well maybe he's using his middle name and that's why I can't
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But Mikey really wants you guys to know that is his real name and it is his real name.
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I found out shortly thereafter that they were, uh, confusing his middle name with, they
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thought it was switched that Michael is his real name.
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Just to clarify that, cause I realized I actually didn't go back and clarify that.
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I'm going to, I guess, jog your memory on what Blake said about Mikey that day.
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And then I'll tell you what actually happened because I don't think Blake has that great
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So I was not with Mikey or I don't remember being with him.
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I think I was ahead of him as we left and then we get out and I run for must have kind
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And then I realized there hasn't been another shot.
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So the shooter has likely been detained or stopped or something, not an immediate danger.
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I pause, I look around me and I see Mikey and I see Mikey there.
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And I'll never, truthfully, I will never forget what I saw because I've seen Mikey almost every
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And I'll never forget what I saw because it was clear in the moment that he was profoundly
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What I'll always remember is the way his lip was quivering, which I'd never seen before.
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And you, you very rarely see from someone that he was freaking out.
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And then I think he literally said to me, I might be imagining this, but I think what he
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literally said was he's, and then he was looking around and then he says, I need to call
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And then he takes his phone and he begins calling Erica.
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And I don't want to disclose how that call unfolded, but he did that.
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This, you know, your mind extends all of this, but that is happening within a minute of all
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I, around the same time I pull out my phone and I call my mom just to say, mom, there's
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And I, around the time I put that phone away and then he immediately calls his dad.
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He calls Robin McCoy and he says, dad, someone shot Charlie.
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And so when he says, I might be imagining this for, I'll never forget followed by, I might
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be imagining this probably means that maybe you forgot and like you really could be imagining.
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Now for me personally, I think the normal physiological response in these high adrenaline
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situations for most people is you lock in that they're literally your body when it goes
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through something, uh, when it's, when it's terrified and it's going through the sort
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of like you are really paying attention to details.
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We've learned about this many times over in health class growing up.
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This is why they talk about that fight or flight response and quite literally there's
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And so there's a lot of details here that are just, just not accurate.
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And the one that surprised me the most about these call logs is I certainly feel that we
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were given the impression over and over and over again that the first person Mikey called
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He was, we were told this by many people also that he was, he trained like, like he
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almost like went to a camp and trained and Charlie was like, one, two, three, go.
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And just told him, this is what the first thing you do is.
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Actually, the first person he called was his wife.
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And then he stayed on the phone with his wife for 10 minutes.
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And during those 10 minutes, he three-weighed Erica three minutes after the shot went off.
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And then he three-weighs his father and then he three-weighs a third person who I am not
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interested in mentioning because it's not relevant.
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This is Danny McCoy, by the way, is his brother that's in the military, but that's before the
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In that same minute, because we know this, because Blake Neff has given us his call log
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It very well could have stayed in 1224, depending on the millisecond.
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Blake Neff ends that phone call with his mother.
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Mikey McCoy, after the phone call with his mother ends, adds Erica to the phone.
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So that, when he was recapping, and he's always lips quivering, and he's like, I got to call
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Erica, and he's like, and then I called my mom.
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Mikey called Erica after Blake Neff ended that phone call with his mother.
00:28:55.600
If call logs are to be believed above, you know, human testimony.
00:29:01.820
Mikey McCoy then drops Erica from the phone call two minutes later, and then he adds his
00:29:07.920
Again, he is this entire time on the phone with his wife.
00:29:10.840
And then Mikey McCoy ends his phone call with his father.
00:29:17.900
He does call another person, who I'm not mentioning because it's just not relevant to anything.
00:29:22.380
You know, not a character in the story, rather.
00:29:28.860
And a minute later, his brother calls him back, and they stay on the phone for 10 minutes.
00:29:34.740
I did not get this from everybody speaking about this Mikey McCoy call log.
00:29:43.700
I don't know why she was disappeared from this.
00:29:49.180
She was, like, you know, main stage at the memorial, has been, you know, I would say very
00:29:53.940
involved in a lot of this kind of, you know, like, I think it's very close that she's close
00:30:02.880
So I just, I didn't, I don't get this disappearing act.
00:30:04.880
I find, I found that to be like, okay, but, but they were forthcoming with it.
00:30:16.120
And like I said, when you come out and give solid answers and you're not weird and calling
00:30:21.440
people names and saying all this stuff, it allows people to go, okay, I feel a bit more
00:30:28.140
like we can trust this process because we have communication.
00:30:32.880
Um, and so I just, I wanted to update you with that.
00:30:37.160
Also, another thing that really, I think, surprised them and I think surprised me is
00:30:47.560
The thing about the Hamptons retreat, and I communicated this with them, that makes me
00:30:52.340
so, um, uncomfortable is how many little lies were told.
00:30:59.960
Like, Seth Dillon definitively pressed Charlie at this event.
00:31:03.840
Now whether it was in a hypothetical, which it was in a hypothetical, but he got fired up
00:31:08.180
in the hypothetical of Charlie discussing, potentially tweeting something against BB Netanyahu.
00:31:16.180
Again, this is one of those things where I go, why am I always being held out to dry,
00:31:20.260
like hung out to dry for telling people the truth?
00:31:22.980
Especially when I wasn't going, oh, well, Seth Dillon killed Charlie Kirk.
00:31:29.280
And yet everybody's kind of putting out these weird statements and they're not being honest
00:31:34.340
And I was saying to them, that made me feel really weird.
00:31:37.100
And I would love to know more about this BB Netanyahu offer to fund Turning Point to the
00:31:45.840
At which point, Erica said she was not aware of that happening.
00:31:49.980
It is obviously totally possible that that was kept in the business lane of Turning Point
00:31:55.400
But I'm certain, I said, I am absolutely certain that I did not get this from an obscure source
00:32:02.320
that BB offered to fund Turning Point to the next level.
00:32:05.500
And it was part of my frustration with that sit down with Alex Clark, where Andrew said,
00:32:18.640
Andrew Colvett told me, verbatim, that BB Netanyahu offered to take Turning Point to
00:32:23.280
the next level and that Charlie turned that money down.
00:32:25.840
So I said, there's a bit of a predicament when I'm being like lambasted by all of these
00:32:32.880
voices and people that are attacking me and these paid campaigns.
00:32:36.420
And when I say paid, yes, OK, actually have the names of people.
00:32:44.460
Too many are being paid by Prager University, which is upsetting to me because I know Marissa
00:32:52.580
But it's especially crazy when people are calling it a conspiracy, when I share things
00:32:58.520
that are told to me from the spokesperson of Turning Point USA.
00:33:06.520
So this was not on our list of lies about the fact that BB Netanyahu did call him.
00:33:13.280
Our source for that could have just as well been BB Netanyahu.
00:33:19.900
I don't know why some people think he didn't make this offer and why definitively three
00:33:28.460
different sources who would have knowledge of this confirmed to me that BB Netanyahu did
00:33:33.420
I never said $150 million ever, not once on the show.
00:33:39.180
If you said take Turning Point to the next level, I actually would have assumed it was
00:33:44.940
That's like that's a hefty offer and it leads to a lot of questions.
00:33:51.360
Lastly, I want to add, of course, I was locked in this meeting when people, odd lie, were
00:33:56.760
another round of debunking the Egyptian planes.
00:34:01.060
We discussed the Egyptian planes and I have since worked on an incredible document about
00:34:07.780
the Egyptian planes, which we are going to put up on our website because I realized
00:34:11.440
that when we shared that spreadsheet, people assumed that one of the columns, which was
00:34:16.960
actually saying where the planes landed on that day, because it was plus or minus three
00:34:20.460
days, was exactly where Erica had been on that day and that was inaccurate.
00:34:24.520
And so for clarity, I had been working on the last week on turning it into an interactive
00:34:28.300
timeline that we can put up on our website because I am certain that these Egyptian planes
00:34:32.000
are incredibly shady and that they were, in fact, tracking Turning Point USA, faith, broader
00:34:42.900
So let the naysayers and people make videos trying to, what are we, fifth round, debunk
00:34:48.020
I also want to say to you that I feel very confident that I know why these planes have
00:34:55.040
And it is because there is overwhelming evidence that these planes regularly fly in and out of
00:35:03.280
And I'm going to present that evidence tomorrow.
00:35:06.520
This is the, like, I feel very confident saying these Egyptian planes are flying in and
00:35:10.720
out and notice I'm saying planes because once I was able to connect people that were on
00:35:15.040
those planes onto other Egyptian planes, I was able to realize that these planes are
00:35:20.600
flying in and out of Israel and turning their transponder off each time that they do it.
00:35:25.260
That is now makes perfect sense of why there was this mass panic, right?
00:35:29.360
It's not exactly like we have a strong Egyptian lobby in the United States.
00:35:33.160
Now we're like, whoa, well, those darn Egyptians again are trying to get TikTok censored.
00:35:37.240
I mean, every person in the game, Barry, acting, well, these are the usual suspects that act
00:35:45.380
Which is, they should have just been forthcoming, pretended that it was changing apart.
00:35:48.560
Instead, they're trying to gaslight us and they're actually, frankly, just pissing me
00:35:53.040
So I became locked in on these Egyptian planes because that's how I am, okay?
00:36:02.740
And the reality is, like I said, tomorrow I will show you how these planes tie back to
00:36:15.300
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Okay, so a couple of things that I want to say.
00:39:28.720
First and foremost, I just got a live update that I thought it was Danny McCoy on the call
00:39:33.420
I should totally correct that, and I will correct that, and we'll be sure to trim it in post
00:39:38.180
It is Danny, another one of Charlie's assistants, so I will correct that.
00:39:41.780
Please correct that if you're going to make videos not Danny McCoy that he called him and
00:39:47.480
That is another assistant of Charlie's, so we want to be accurate.
00:39:50.980
I don't know why I assumed it was Danny McCoy in my head.
00:39:56.200
You guys may have been noticing that we are getting into this weird space where they seem to
00:40:00.400
be almost writing like Candace Owens' fan fiction.
00:40:02.500
I can't even reply to things, and a lot of you sense that this was because we were getting
00:40:08.200
I fully agree that these attacks, which have grown hysterical, like I can't even begin to
00:40:14.860
tell you the conversations between me and my PR person.
00:40:20.780
I mean, there's not even one sentence of this that is true.
00:40:24.600
Case in point, by the way, New York Post does this article today.
00:40:33.500
Like, inside Candace Owens' sadistic and dangerous world, monetizing baseless conspiracies.
00:40:42.040
This is after, by the way, they changed my husband's Wikipedia and said that he was a Qatari,
00:40:50.980
I don't think my husband's ever even flown over Qatar.
00:40:53.280
I could be wrong, but I don't think he's ever, I know he's never been to Qatar.
00:40:58.040
And they're just making it up, and then they make it trend no matter what it is.
00:41:02.360
It's like a psychological operation because they're trying to keep us constantly responding
00:41:07.320
as opposed to focusing on our investigation, which is why I spent this weekend and I just
00:41:11.140
kept down on the Egyptian planes because it's completely crazy.
00:41:14.860
And when you see a media storm like this, it can only be happening because Zionists
00:41:18.000
are locking arms and going attack, attack, attack, because they, by and large, control
00:41:23.880
One way or the other, Zionists control the empire medias, and they are scared about something
00:41:31.920
So they wrote in this article, the New York Post, just to give you an example of how insane
00:41:37.800
this is, they said they had an inside source that told them that while I was at the Daily
00:41:42.820
Wire, I just fought with people from the very source that in my first week, I threw my car
00:41:49.740
keys at a producer and expected them to park my car.
00:41:53.820
That sentence genuinely made me laugh so hard because I never once in the entire time that
00:42:01.020
I worked for the Daily Wire did I ever drive my car to work, okay?
00:42:08.640
So I don't know why I would suddenly take the driver's keys and then throw it at somebody,
00:42:13.640
but quite literally, I never drove through Daily Wire.
00:42:15.960
So it's just when I say fan fiction, I'm like, this is fan fiction.
00:42:19.180
Secondly, they say I did that to a producer and that I conducted, demanded others do my
00:42:33.880
I think that's pretty obvious, that I demanded a huge studio, attempted to use their PR firm
00:42:43.120
to get the cover of People magazine, like full fan fiction.
00:42:49.220
I don't even think we ever had a conversation on People magazine because that would not be
00:42:55.780
That I wanted to be on the cover of People is insane.
00:42:59.380
And they said that their sources also said that, like, my team hated me.
00:43:11.120
So I was just going, OK, what is happening here?
00:43:19.760
It is because we are we are dangerously close to something.
00:43:23.820
I think we have to keep pushing on the Huachuca Air Base, which we are doing.
00:43:26.920
And tomorrow we are going to get back into the investigation.
00:43:29.060
We're just going to ignore the noise because, as I have said, and as I have maintained,
00:43:34.440
I believe that Charlie was betrayed by people that are close to him.
00:43:40.940
I'm like, OK, if we can agree that everyone around you, I was like, I know there are people
00:43:45.680
at Turning Point that are not good people, right?
00:43:47.160
And it's feasible that people, if they have addictions, that, you know, you can definitely
00:43:53.240
get yourself in a scenario where you are willing to sell somebody out.
00:43:57.260
How can we so confidently state that nobody had anything to do here to do with anything
00:44:03.540
And I think that one of the things that Erica was like, well, I'm not like a feminist and
00:44:08.660
I didn't want the vibe of that, which I think it did come across like a bit of a feminist
00:44:15.260
I know people in this family and they're not good people.
00:44:19.640
OK, I got people in my family like we all do, you know, who aren't exactly walking a
00:44:32.240
I am not going to stop researching the characters in this that I don't feel good about.
00:44:37.400
But further to sort of them just creating and making things up, Tim Pool has now gone out
00:44:44.720
and extraordinarily claimed that I have the same the same security as Charlie Kirk and
00:44:52.820
that I'm a fraud and actually I have the exact same security.
00:44:55.840
You will recall that Tim just said a week ago that I have no security.
00:45:04.160
She is burning everything down and she's gloating and smiling while she does it.
00:45:11.680
She doesn't deal with the we have to deal with.
00:45:15.840
She has security, just not on the level of you.
00:45:18.740
The one fat guy you mentioned with no wall and no barrier in a suburban neighborhood with
00:45:27.340
You told me you went to her house and she's got a four foot wall and one fat guy and she
00:45:37.740
This is Tim who said I had no security except for one fat guy, which I told you was not true.
00:45:44.420
OK, I'll say things that I probably shouldn't say, but I'm going to say I always get super
00:45:50.060
Candace Owens has the same security team as Turning Point and Charlie Kirk did.
00:45:59.580
I've been meeting with people and talking with them.
00:46:01.200
And I shouldn't say too much because there's more that's going to be coming out soon because
00:46:04.420
rest assured people are filing legal paperwork against her.
00:46:07.560
Candace has the same security team or has used the same security companies and the same
00:46:13.400
So when she comes out and is questioning them, she is lying outright.
00:46:19.000
Now, I've invited many of these people to come on.
00:46:23.640
The issue is the moment Candace goes on her show to millions of people and lies, litigation
00:46:33.560
She is exploiting this, and she knows she is, to keep people wrapped up in this insanity.
00:46:46.840
It's almost like they have just sent a call, like they're getting too close and just said,
00:47:03.780
I have never employed the same security team as Charlie Kirk, ever.
00:47:10.300
Actually, back, it's obviously been publicized.
00:47:15.880
And Schaefer Security, which was run by Greg Schaefer, who has issued a public statement,
00:47:20.580
they had Dan Flood and Brian Harpool working for them initially.
00:47:23.820
I told Charlie I did not like the security apparatus.
00:47:27.500
I got my own security separate from Charlie from the very beginning, okay?
00:47:34.060
Trying to do this strategy of you're going to get sued is just threatening somebody.
00:47:38.560
If there was any truth to that, you can't just file legal paperwork.
00:47:43.740
You have to say, something you said on your show was untrue.
00:47:48.480
And if I ignore that, as I did with Brigitte because I told the truth,
00:47:56.540
We have received no cease and desist from Charlie's security whatsoever.
00:48:00.860
I mean, the audacity that you're filing a lawsuit and someone got murdered on your watch?
00:48:05.060
Because I accurately said that Brian Harpool, the message he showed, belonged to Dan Flood.
00:48:11.600
And that they didn't do a walkthrough on that day.
00:48:14.780
But if something I'm getting wrong and you'd like to show me that actually you did,
00:48:24.700
We're certainly not expecting to get it from Tim Pool.
00:48:30.420
But I do think that that is right now a Zionist strategy.
00:48:32.680
And that's why I want to encourage you guys to stay focused.
00:48:35.700
Huachuca, which we're going to have a lot on tomorrow,
00:48:40.340
And I think that that caused a panic, as well as the Egyptian planes,
00:48:44.080
which I am telling you, go back, relate to Israel.
00:48:46.340
And I will be able to prove that tomorrow for all of the naysayers.
00:48:49.260
And again, it's only because this is how they act.
00:48:59.980
Something else that I wanted to show you, by the way,
00:49:02.940
I thought we were not supposed to be doing live streams while we were speaking.
00:49:06.100
But Turning Point, I guess, has their daily show.
00:49:07.900
But I didn't feel like that was communicated to me.
00:49:10.340
It felt like a ceasefire, and then it got violated.
00:49:13.360
But they had an interesting conversation on their show yesterday,
00:49:24.440
So this is straight from the charging document.
00:49:26.660
Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so,
00:49:29.060
Robinson had become more political and started to lean more to the left,
00:49:32.060
becoming more pro-gay and trans rights oriented.
00:49:35.060
She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate,
00:49:37.840
a biological male who was transitioning genders.
00:49:40.340
This resulted in several discussions with family members,
00:49:42.880
but especially between Robinson and his father,
00:49:48.420
Robinson mentioned that Charlie Kirk would be holding an event at UVU,
00:49:58.620
And when you see how easy that rooftop access is,
00:50:04.140
and you realize that Robinson had a plan that he was going to ultimately take
00:50:09.840
And he obviously knew how easy it was to get up to that rooftop,
00:50:18.680
one of the other things that's being pushed around for a long time was that,
00:50:24.460
both the local chapter and you guys didn't advertise this event till a couple
00:50:30.880
the insinuation there is that that doesn't give Tyler enough time to plan for
00:50:42.660
you guys have already put out on your website as early as August 27th.
00:50:47.040
So we have at least almost a full two weeks prior to this,
00:50:59.180
and it sounds like that Tyler already was familiar with the campus to begin with,
00:51:03.840
like a lot of the mystery of this starts to go out the window and it starts to
00:51:08.620
really conform with what is exactly being proposed by the state of Utah and
00:51:23.560
10 days in advance of something opened up in his schedule,
00:51:38.880
but I do feel like we worked really hard to see when this location was first
00:51:44.260
The first time that we found that the courtyard was mentioned,
00:51:51.500
So it's not like you can see whether you have a shot to the courtyard,
00:51:54.700
unless you know Charlie speaking in the courtyard.
00:51:55.980
The earliest that we found that was on September 2nd,
00:52:00.220
the local media mentioned on KMYU that Charlie was speaking at UVU in the courtyard.
00:52:10.600
please tag me because what he's referring to on August 27th,
00:52:15.760
And this is why I love a timeline is that TPUSA,
00:52:18.460
UVU and the local BYU chapter shared a graphic announcing that Charlie was coming to UVU,
00:52:24.080
but there were absolutely no location details mentioned.
00:52:27.500
So that actually does shred the idea that he could have practically gone and scaled rooftops
00:52:36.020
That's the first public mention is September 2nd.
00:52:44.840
there are location details provided by local media for the first time.
00:52:56.860
because I do think that we were thorough on that.
00:53:03.400
Surely they must have footage after September 2nd of him testing the rooftop in some capacity
00:53:18.520
I was told that they don't have anything that the public doesn't have.
00:53:35.920
sorry around the tech regarding the text messages from Tyler Robinson.
00:53:38.280
A lot has been made about these text exchange that have gone back,
00:53:42.820
that went back and forth between Robinson and his,
00:53:53.760
there is a video that I want everybody to check out by Turkey Tom.
00:54:00.360
and this has been authenticated as somebody who was in the discord chats with them and
00:54:05.100
apparently spent time with them at this apartment.
00:54:12.620
We're going to go into that more probably tomorrow,
00:54:32.940
regardless of whether or not this is how they talk.
00:54:36.060
they were manufactured by or drafted by AI to the extent that they're confirmed text messages.
00:54:41.220
You can come to whatever conclusions you want after that.
00:54:45.020
But whether or not this is how they talk regularly,
00:54:47.860
to the extent that those were authentic text messages,
00:54:52.300
which is whether or not his lover was aware of what was going on.
00:55:02.460
I don't believe the official narrative and you have to go back to a number of things here.
00:55:09.520
I want to know who was on the discord chat in advance,
00:55:12.360
what they were discussing and whether or not there might've been some other foreign,
00:55:19.760
Tyler Robinson is getting radicalized right about the same time as Thomas Crooks,
00:55:28.220
he's being radicalized at a politically relevant period of time,
00:55:32.060
as the alleged suspect in the January 6th pipe bomber,
00:55:45.700
is very interesting to see whether or not he was on anybody's radar beforehand.
00:55:50.860
And why there would not be confirmation on that can lead to suspicion.
00:55:55.800
arrested for claiming to be the shooter the day of,
00:56:03.960
George Zinn was probably on some discord chat with a bunch of young perverts.
00:56:07.620
And he's an old pervert and he's getting off doing whatever they do on those chats.
00:56:12.320
He shows up there and thinks he's going to be some useful decoy or distraction for Tyler Robinson.
00:56:30.040
nobody has any faith in our institutions anymore.
00:56:38.400
to concocting the most outlandish conspiracy theories imaginable.
00:56:43.860
you can understand how they will cause people to come to those types of conclusions.
00:56:51.840
getting mad at Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent for trying to look into a potential terrorist angle to this also does nothing to foment faith in the system.
00:57:03.320
I think it's what he's saying there is perfectly valid and we can all surmise about what we think happened that day.
00:57:07.780
We can also ignore the fact that I broke the story that the nurses were told at Utah Valley,
00:57:14.240
Everyone's just ignoring the things that I broke.
00:57:16.360
but he said he told the nurses that he was paid to do that.
00:57:18.540
So whatever we can all theorize and which we're going to do in the absence of any concrete facts.
00:57:23.580
But I will say it's good that Turning Point is at least giving that air,
00:57:27.700
I think that might even be the first time Andrew Hulvet has expressed that he thought that those messages were weird initially.
00:57:38.200
They want to feel like you're willing to have a conversation and that at least you're going to defend people when they're being called liars,
00:57:44.000
when they're telling the truth about something.
00:57:47.780
And so I am just to say this very happy that we are on much better feet and that we have opened the lines of communication.
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I do genuinely think that Justin Stripe did a great job reffing that conversation yesterday.
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And I also do want to shout out Megyn Kelly because this was going,
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we were trying to make this happen in the background really since Blake Neff fumbled the first invite.
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That's in large part because of you guys at home that were like,
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let's actually make a conversation happen and start answering some questions,
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when we were going to live stream the conversation,
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I felt like she would have done a very good job.
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I am praying that our girl is playing the ultimate long game
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it would have happened in the last two years, okay?
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They hate that there's no more threats to make, right?
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So they're just embarking on this fan fiction campaign.
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But especially for the people that I care about in life,
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Especially for people whose heads I have held up,
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who have held up my head through really hard times
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that I would just sell out to the highest bidder
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that knows that it's not worth living life that way.
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who have so obviously sold their souls on the internet.
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so then we started researching some other elements,
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and that's what we're going to move on to tomorrow.
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They do look charred in the photos that he showed,
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but I can tell you that his hands were not charred
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and I very much trust the person that told me that.
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where he builds on what I said about Camp Huachuca,
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but that is a very compelling video that he did,
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your true fans had no doubts about you whatsoever.
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was Erica communicating with Megyn Kelly and me.
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and I think there's something to explore there.
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Here's some support toward that security detail.
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the messages that Charlie got the night before.
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And I think that they should be honest about that.
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And then I get these people doubling down on it.