Candace Owens - EXCLUSIVE： Leaked TPUSA Audio ｜ Candace EP 296

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I survived the ice storm. I'm sorry that we were down yesterday. We had no internet, but we are going to make up for it with a show this Friday. Anyway, what do I have for you today? You guys already know that many people are upset with me. And by many people, I mean the mainstream media and all of their cronies. They're upset for a lot of reasons. Foremost because I mentioned the idea that Charlie's life may have been the Truman Show. How dare I?

00:00:28.260 Well, it's about to get a little more weird when I tell you something else that we have learned about the origins of the X-Men school that he went to in his youth. I probably should have named the thumbnail X-Men Origins. Missed opportunity. Also, we have, and they are seemingly very upset, that we are going to share with you this conference call that I promised you.

00:00:48.380 Erica installed as the new CEO and chairman. She headed up this conference call about 12 days after Charlie was assassinated, just after the memorial event. And I'm going to allow you guys to listen to it to see how you feel about it, because I definitely feel a thing about it. What that thing is, I don't know. Welcome back to Candace.

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00:01:44.620 Okay, so last week, I said to you guys that in the near future, we are going to do a maybe two episodes, could be a three-part series on Erica Kirk's past.

00:01:59.560 Few people online were very upset about that instantly.

00:02:01.800 I'm like, oh, how dare you? How could you look into anything involving Erica Kirk?

00:02:08.840 Let me explain to you guys what's happening here. You're probably wondering what it is that we are doing.

00:02:14.140 So I'm old. I'm 36 years old. Back in my day, there used to be this thing known as journalism, basic journalism.

00:02:22.760 It existed. I know it seems very far off, but it would be considered probably back in my day, literal insanity to allow someone to take over the reins of an organization that quite literally relies on the goodwill of the public.

00:02:39.400 Because it's a charitable organization, which happened to have raised over a quarter of a billion dollars following the assassination of its founder.

00:02:50.460 And then apparently nobody's interested in doing a basic profile piece on the new chairman and CEO that took over.

00:03:00.400 That's actually, that makes no sense. And so that's what we are committing ourselves to.

00:03:06.360 We are doing a couple of episodes to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the background of Erica Kirk, because the public deserves to know.

00:03:14.900 And like I said, it's basic journalism. This entire idea that, well, Charlie wanted this.

00:03:23.440 That just would fly probably actually nowhere in the world, not even in the old world, not even under monarchy rule in the 11th century in England.

00:03:32.840 Would that work? You can't just say, oh, well, that was his missus. That was his queen consort and hand her a kingdom.

00:03:39.540 Even under that model, it would be Charlie's son that would inherit Turning Point USA.

00:03:45.340 So stop doing that. Stop saying that. Doesn't make any sense. The public is not biting. I am not biting.

00:03:50.060 And to be clear, the more time that goes on, the more that we are seeing the general direction that this company is taking under her stewardship, the less we're liking.

00:04:01.420 The general public doesn't like it. I don't like it. And especially the recent bout of paranoia where we had a bunch of employees who factually worked 20 hour days.

00:04:13.400 That fact, by the way, you are about to hear Erica confirm herself. Those employees were then fired without even being given a clear reason as to why.

00:04:22.680 Just got to go going in a different direction.

00:04:24.740 That doesn't exactly match what we were told as the public. We were told that they're a family.

00:04:32.300 How dare anybody question anybody ever in the family?

00:04:36.160 Followed immediately, almost seemingly in the new year by get out.

00:04:41.280 We're just moving in a different direction. Knock, knock. We're at your door. You're fired.

00:04:46.120 And you better hand me your computer or else. We just want to know what happened here.

00:04:50.560 Anyway, being a 501c3 company, being a charity, becoming a charitable organization makes you, of course, accountable to the public.

00:05:00.860 Always they are allowed to ask questions, even if you want to send out a bunch of cease and desist letters.

00:05:05.440 And thanks to this recent string of misguided firings, that's putting it mildly, we did happen to get our hands on an audio recording of a corporate wide Zoom call, which took place pretty immediately following Charlie's memorial.

00:05:22.280 So for clarity, this call took place on Monday, September 22nd.

00:05:28.300 So this is 11 days, less than two weeks after her husband was publicly assassinated in front of the entire world.

00:05:37.680 It's important to remember that.

00:05:38.640 It's also less than 48 hours, about 48 hours after his private Catholic funeral mass,

00:05:45.720 which the public was not privy to, but top paying donors were.

00:05:51.840 That's also odd.

00:05:52.660 We'll save that for another day.

00:05:54.680 I just think that you should know that.

00:05:56.060 I want to plug that into our master timeline, which I know I keep promising you I'm going to publish.

00:06:01.560 I will.

00:06:03.300 So we know on September 10th, Charlie is assassinated.

00:06:06.280 This is bottom of the timeline.

00:06:07.920 On the 18th, this, by the way, strikes me as odd in the retrospect, as I was working on these couple of episodes about Erica.

00:06:17.700 On the 18th, just eight days after the assassination, she gave an in-person interview with the New York Times at her and Charlie's condo.

00:06:29.860 Okay.

00:06:30.340 Now, regarding the New York Times profile piece, I was totally in a cloud of grief by myself when all of that went down.

00:06:39.580 Okay.

00:06:39.780 You remember I had to go away to Wyoming just to breathe, to process, to get closer to accepting that it was real.

00:06:50.000 I went away for two weeks.

00:06:51.240 I didn't really catch the fact that it was an in-person meeting until later.

00:06:57.980 Eight days after his public assassination, she sits down for a piece with the publication that hated Charlie the entire time he was alive.

00:07:06.880 The New York Times was constantly writing pieces about Charlie Kirk or pieces that just were not kind or favorable to Charlie Kirk.

00:07:12.360 So it's an interesting decision.

00:07:14.520 And reading the article or rereading, because somebody said you should actually go back and revisit everything that transpired in the days after.

00:07:21.460 And you kind of have new eyes.

00:07:23.320 And that's very true.

00:07:24.120 But in reading that article, in retrospect, something that I am particularly struck by is the fact that she describes suddenly being forced into the single mother position as the quote-unquote least traumatizing thing.

00:07:44.940 Becoming a single mother suddenly, eight days later, she describes it as the least traumatizing thing.

00:07:50.180 Again, that's an exact quotation.

00:07:51.480 I'll read it.

00:07:52.180 You can see it.

00:07:52.820 But she's going into this.

00:07:55.860 They're speaking about Trump's energy and his tone toward her on phone calls.

00:08:00.460 And it reads, quote, from her, the president's tone, she said, was soft and embracing.

00:08:06.580 I could tell he wanted to hug me.

00:08:10.000 Others have responded in the same manner to Ms. Kirk, now left to care for a three-year-old daughter and a one-year-old son.

00:08:16.060 That new life, Ms. Kirk said, quote, is actually the least traumatizing thing for me since she herself has been raised by her mother after their parents divorced when she was young.

00:08:29.380 And we're just supposed to pretend that that's completely normal or whatever.

00:08:35.080 I would figure maybe the least traumatizing bit would be something more mundane, maybe along the lines, if this was a thing, if Charlie constantly filled up her gas tank and someone was like, well, who's going to fill up your gas tank?

00:08:45.760 She might reply, that's actually the least traumatizing thing.

00:08:48.860 I don't even care about that.

00:08:50.000 That's just me filling up my car.

00:08:52.940 That would be like the least traumatizing thing.

00:08:54.720 Becoming a single mother after your husband is horrifically assassinated, realizing that your children are going to grow up without a father, a father who toured the world and spoke about the importance of fatherhood and relayed the statistics pertaining to the youth that grow up without their fathers in the home.

00:09:11.500 I would describe that as very traumatizing.

00:09:14.400 I think across the board, that's a traumatizing thing, not the least traumatizing thing by any stretch of an imagination.

00:09:21.600 Anyway, we are now in season seven, episode four of Everybody Grieves Differently, but that's weird.

00:09:29.740 Now, getting to this corporate call again, can we just go back if you want to throw in that schedule again?

00:09:35.460 Sorry, the yeah.

00:09:37.100 OK, great.

00:09:37.620 So we have this on the 10th, he's assassinated on the 18th, it's that in-person interview with New York Times on the 20th.

00:09:44.060 We have the funeral mass, which is held at a church at 11 a.m.

00:09:49.600 On the 21st is the public memorial event that is held at State Farm Stadium.

00:09:54.200 And on the 22nd, which I had not mentioned before, I've been building this timeline in the background, there's a private dinner, not going to mention what restaurant it's at.

00:10:02.600 But the McCoys are there, Elizabeth, Mikey, Erica, and they're in joyous spirits is exactly what the email said of someone who was there.

00:10:11.880 They were in joyous spirits.

00:10:13.820 Okay, I just want to get that.

00:10:18.880 I think a lot of this, when you hear this call that I'm glad to play for you, again, I'm not trying to color your opinion, but I am going to give you mine because it's my podcast.

00:10:29.980 I'm allowed to do it.

00:10:31.380 I do want to remind you that Charlie has not been dead for two weeks.

00:10:34.760 That's where you have to go back to, not even two weeks after Charlie was publicly assassinated.

00:10:41.000 Not a normal, he didn't, we had to watch this.

00:10:45.160 We had to visually watch this.

00:10:47.460 Now, the entirety of this call, which we're not going to play, is 15 minutes long.

00:10:50.840 I'm going to figure out how to just drop it on my XFeed.

00:10:54.460 But I want to make sure that we properly and fairly contextualize it so we're not being choosy.

00:11:00.060 We're not cutting this for drama.

00:11:01.360 And the obvious point of this call to set this up is to introduce Erica.

00:11:07.100 She's the new leader.

00:11:08.360 Not even introducing, she's just heading up this call, but obviously she's going to be at the helm of this, so they're getting to know her.

00:11:13.460 And she does begin the call by being thankful to the entire Turning Point USA team for their work at the memorial event.

00:11:21.480 So let's take a listen.

00:11:23.980 Hi, everybody.

00:11:24.780 I still love all these emoji Zoom things.

00:11:31.360 Wow.

00:11:32.960 I don't even know where to begin.

00:11:34.680 The fact that we were able to pull off an event of a century, it's just insane.

00:11:43.840 We had over 275,000 people that attended, and the stadium, Overflow, Westgate, insane, you guys.

00:11:58.440 And then you have, was it 100 million?

00:12:01.660 Over, I think, Overflow.

00:12:05.180 You guys that heard the gospel and all about Charlie and all about everything that you guys do and the hard work of Turning Point USA is insane.

00:12:14.720 We had thousands that were registered to vote.

00:12:18.320 I think we're at like over 200,000 for merch sales.

00:12:23.580 Don't quote me on that because I think it just keeps like bumping up like crazy.

00:12:26.440 But I just wanted to say a huge, huge, huge thank you to the events team, the development team, the graphic design team, the production team.

00:12:36.040 It's just phenomenal.

00:12:38.040 Their incredible work of leading into the memorial.

00:12:40.720 And honestly, a lot of the staff that worked on the memorial, they had 20-hour days for a week during the time of us grieving the loss of my husband.

00:12:52.420 And honestly, I know several staff that didn't even sleep.

00:12:57.500 Again, you guys are breathing angels.

00:13:02.520 And I'm so grateful for all of you.

00:13:04.260 And obviously, a huge thank you to the Mosaic team, VI, you guys are 10 out of 10.

00:13:10.960 Like there's, we have the most incredible team.

00:13:14.740 We just do.

00:13:15.540 And you guys know that.

00:13:17.020 And you guys are all a part of that.

00:13:18.480 And I am so, so thankful.

00:13:21.020 And if you do have a moment and you run into any of those staff members that you know had a role in this,

00:13:28.520 and you know that they put a lot of their time and effort into it, just say thank you.

00:13:36.320 There's something really special to be seen in moments like this.

00:13:41.300 And it's not easy.

00:13:43.680 I'm speaking from experience.

00:13:45.300 I'm right in the trenches with you guys.

00:13:48.000 And so the fact that you just, a simple thank you.

00:13:50.880 I don't care if any of you have beef with each other from the past or have any issues with someone said something about this or that.

00:14:00.540 Like if you guys have any of that, please put it to rest.

00:14:03.100 My husband's dead.

00:14:04.380 Like I'm not trying to be morbid, but he's dead.

00:14:06.540 And it puts life into perspective of how short life is and relationships.

00:14:11.520 And God puts people in your life for a reason.

00:14:13.660 And it teaches you a lesson.

00:14:14.780 It teaches them a lesson.

00:14:15.600 So if you are going through a time where just lay it to rest and we are moving forward, Turning Point USA 2.0 with Charlie in our hearts, and that's what he would want.

00:14:28.760 Okay.

00:14:29.300 So I'm just looking at the chat here and you guys are responding live in the way that I felt live listening to this.

00:14:38.620 It is the general tone that is off-putting.

00:14:41.720 It's the laughter that is off-putting.

00:14:43.280 It's, again, we are not even two weeks after watching your husband be assassinated.

00:14:47.320 We're talking about numbers and metrics that have been hit.

00:14:51.260 And my husband's dead, not to be morbid.

00:14:53.420 That is a sentence that I, and this was not my husband, and I had no sort of the type of relationship that she had with him that I was able to utter.

00:15:04.900 Lisa, I mean, that's moving pretty quickly to the acceptance phase.

00:15:09.420 Now, we know everybody grieves differently.

00:15:13.300 In my imagination, I don't, I just thought she would be more upset.

00:15:21.280 And I want to be clear, the overall mood of this call is extraordinarily upbeat.

00:15:27.280 It's extraordinarily happy.

00:15:28.580 But, of course, as the CEO and chairman, she does have to address the elephant in the room, the morbid elephant in the room, if you will, because it's an obligation.

00:15:38.700 You have a new CEO.

00:15:40.080 The employees are working 20-hour days.

00:15:42.580 But also, their founder, Charlie, was publicly assassinated less than two weeks ago.

00:15:46.500 You've got to address that.

00:15:47.620 And you're going to hear her address that by recapping to them that throughout these long working days, the employees were provided with ample resources while they were working.

00:16:00.440 Take a listen.

00:16:01.280 I'm just grateful that while things were still in motion and moving around, that we had our leadership teams provide for you counselors, pastors.

00:16:18.580 I heard there were therapy dogs, slightly jealous that I didn't get to have any moment with a therapy dog.

00:16:27.080 Breakfast.

00:16:28.140 I was really adamant about making sure that we paid for your flights, for your spouses to be there.

00:16:32.960 That was something on my heart.

00:16:36.300 You don't want to grieve alone.

00:16:38.020 No one's supposed to grieve alone.

00:16:39.780 It's not healthy.

00:16:40.520 But I just think it's a beautiful honor that all of these benefits were made for the community to grieve and remember Charlie.

00:16:51.700 And I really hope you took advantage of those in a healthy way when they were provided, because it's meant to be for everyone for healing.

00:16:59.960 Grief comes in waves.

00:17:02.740 You know, some days are going to be tougher than others.

00:17:04.640 But, you know, take it as it comes.

00:17:09.240 And that's why you have your Turning Point family and just lean on them and lean on other people in your life that you know will help you and pour into you and pray with you to get you through it.

00:17:21.420 I say that, though, that if you do need more time to grieve, please continue to use Turning Point USA's network of counselors.

00:17:32.460 We have pastors.

00:17:34.540 I mean, there are so many resources for you.

00:17:37.640 If you do need additional time off, please talk to your director about using paid time off for that.

00:17:48.720 And, again, it's not easy, but, again, grief is hard.

00:17:56.760 Otherwise, honestly, Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action will seem ahead, you guys.

00:18:06.140 We have – Charlie would want us to get back to work, and that's what we're doing, and that's what we did with the memorial.

00:18:11.160 And I'm so honored and proud of each and every one of you because that's what we're going to do in his honor and in his name.

00:18:16.220 We have so much to do, which is exciting.

00:18:23.360 Charlie in heaven is like, you guys thought you had a busy schedule, then just you wait.

00:18:29.220 And he's doing some awesome things with Jesus in heaven right now.

00:18:32.760 But there's so much work to be done.

00:18:34.740 I mean, since his assassination, we have 100,000 chapter requests.

00:18:44.600 We have 300,000 new donors.

00:18:48.360 That is a blessing in itself.

00:18:53.140 Again, not normal.

00:18:55.080 Oh, God.

00:18:56.020 I think we have 50,000-plus hat orders to fulfill.

00:19:01.540 I mean, I'm saying these numbers because it puts into perspective that we're not just sitting and thinking and looking at the wall, being like, what do we do?

00:19:12.160 Like, there is so much to do.

00:19:14.140 You have over 20,000 AMFEST registrations.

00:19:19.820 There's a lot happening there, and none of it is what I would be expecting to happen there.

00:19:24.400 So basically, what the employees said to me was that they got onto this call, and everyone's exhausted, everyone's been working, and they pull off this massive memorial.

00:19:34.820 And then there's kind of this approach where it's like, well, if you guys need paid time off, like, Charlie's in heaven dancing, wanting you to work harder.

00:19:42.680 He's just up there like, you better work.

00:19:45.480 But you can use the paid time off that you have earned, by the way, if you need to grieve more.

00:19:50.840 But imagine you're the employee.

00:19:51.880 You're like, okay, well, this is his wife saying this.

00:19:53.640 So am I weird?

00:19:55.220 Would I be, like, I would be pretty weird if I needed to take time off, and his wife is saying she's full steam ahead.

00:20:01.860 That's the mentality that they had.

00:20:03.540 Like, how are we supposed, like, are we weird for wanting to grieve?

00:20:09.560 Is that not the vibe?

00:20:11.360 How can we take paid time off when Erica's wife is saying full steam ahead? 0.97

00:20:16.920 It's very strange.

00:20:18.500 It is even kind of using this idea of Charlie being in heaven, looking down, and the laughter.

00:20:28.920 I don't know.

00:20:29.900 So I feel like the rest of you.

00:20:33.000 I feel uncomfortable.

00:20:33.780 And, of course, now what we're going to listen to is her pivot to the future vision, because that's what the bulk of this is about.

00:20:40.720 And we, it's going to consist of the notebooks that I keep telling you the public is never going to see.

00:20:46.480 Apparently, what I gather from this is that Charlie presented to the staff a vision for 2025.

00:20:52.060 But Erica is going to say that there was a vision beyond that all the way to 2030.

00:20:56.480 And there is a, there's a project 2030.

00:21:01.980 And then she's going to kind of want to say that she's happy, but then catch herself realizing that that would be kind of weird to say that she's happy.

00:21:09.960 Take a listen.

00:21:11.340 The prophetic mind of my husband was that he always planned for the future.

00:21:18.540 You guys are obviously aware of, like, Vision 2025, but Charlie was also working on Vision 2030 in the weeks leading up to September 10th.

00:21:29.560 And that's, and he was working really closely with Justin.

00:21:32.040 And that's why Justin had been appointed the role of COO, because he was literally, I remember phone calls when Charlie and I would take our night walks.

00:21:43.300 And it would be 10 o'clock at night, and him and Justin would just be talking about the plans.

00:21:48.660 I was aware of the plans.

00:21:50.980 I have his journals that are aware of the plans.

00:21:54.280 Like, there is no confusion of what's to come.

00:21:59.340 And I want to give you guys that reassurance that it's full steam ahead.

00:22:05.300 And the board and I are working with Justin and the executive leadership teams to make sure that all of those plans come into effect, 2030 and beyond.

00:22:18.120 But I, again, am so grateful for all of you.

00:22:22.040 I'm so proud of all of you.

00:22:25.480 You honor my husband so well.

00:22:28.360 All of you do.

00:22:29.780 And it's weird to say I'm excited.

00:22:33.760 I really hesitate saying that.

00:22:36.280 It's really hard for me to say that.

00:22:38.540 It's a really weird thing to say.

00:22:40.520 But I think it comes from a space of peace, knowing that God's using this.

00:22:49.700 And we're humbly witnessing the gospel in real time.

00:22:59.800 I don't know what to say.

00:23:01.220 She doesn't want to say she's happy.

00:23:03.940 I don't want to say I'm happy.

00:23:04.960 But where it comes from, I'm going to explain the happiness that I feel.

00:23:08.740 It comes from peace because we're witnessing the gospel in real time.

00:23:14.720 All of that, all of this makes my skin crawl.

00:23:18.580 It genuinely makes my skin crawl.

00:23:20.240 I'm going to go ahead and say that.

00:23:21.460 You can go find your commentator who's going to tell you everybody grieves differently.

00:23:25.180 Nope, we are.

00:23:25.920 That is less than two weeks after Charlie was publicly assassinated.

00:23:28.380 That doesn't feel right to me.

00:23:31.200 It doesn't feel right to, I would say, the majority of people.

00:23:36.380 That doesn't feel right, knowing that they're joyous at dinners.

00:23:41.340 And again, this is when people who did not know Charlie could not stop crying and were sending

00:23:47.940 the emails, who've never met Charlie, who didn't even know what Turning Point USA was because

00:23:53.520 they watched his assassination, could not stop crying and pull themselves together.

00:23:58.200 That is not the emotion that we're getting there.

00:24:00.140 Like I said, the entire call is upbeat and the portions where we are even speaking about

00:24:08.200 grief, it feels like an obligation.

00:24:10.800 Like, you know, we done, you got the dogs and what Charlie wants is for you to work now.

00:24:16.540 And that is how the employees that I've spoken to who were on that call, that's how they felt.

00:24:20.700 And my assumption, by the way, why I'm addressing this now is because my assumption, watching

00:24:25.540 everything that's gone on, my assumption was that she really was trying to figure things out.

00:24:32.180 I assumed in the silence, right, she wasn't doing interviews then, I assumed she couldn't

00:24:37.360 get out of bed.

00:24:38.060 I assumed that she couldn't pick her head up. 0.68

00:24:39.780 And I felt that people were being unfair in judging outfits and in judging whether or not

00:24:48.620 they liked how her hair was done.

00:24:49.920 I said, okay, she's speaking at the memorial, we expect her to speak at the memorial event.

00:24:54.160 I felt the public was being unfair.

00:24:56.360 Now that we're kind of getting more on the inside of the organization, the now fired employees

00:25:01.140 are telling me, no, it was quite the opposite.

00:25:03.560 She was in the office every day with Stacey Sheridan, running around with Stacey Sheridan,

00:25:08.640 taking phone calls with Stacey Sheridan.

00:25:09.940 That's like the head of the fundraising for Turning Point USA.

00:25:12.620 So what I had imagined in my head was happening simply was not so.

00:25:17.420 Something is not right.

00:25:23.660 That's what I would like to say.

00:25:25.100 That does not, that call, the timing, the energy of that call does not feel right to me.

00:25:31.840 This, I don't know.

00:25:34.080 I don't know.

00:25:34.440 I don't know what's happening, but I think we are inching closer to figuring out what's going on.

00:25:39.840 That's for sure.

00:25:41.000 And we will have more for you in the coming weeks.

00:25:44.440 It also led me to another stunning discovery that we have made in large part thanks to internet sleuths.

00:25:51.440 There was a lot of media panicking when we discussed Project Looking Glass.

00:25:56.780 We discussed the fact that Charlie was indeed a gifted child who went to a literal children's school for the gifted.

00:26:03.680 I told you guys also that streetlights used to go out when he ran.

00:26:07.120 There's a whole term for that.

00:26:08.440 Apparently, a lot of people go through that.

00:26:09.680 We saw that in the comment section.

00:26:11.200 And what does it all mean?

00:26:12.120 On my episode, I posited that the military was keeping its eye on, quote unquote, gate children, gifted children by different names, but, you know, terming it more broadly, children that go through the gate program.

00:26:25.960 That Charlie's life may have therefore been a literal Truman show once they realized that he was extraordinarily gifted.

00:26:32.340 So let me remind you that when Charlie was having these visions about his death back in 2018,

00:26:38.140 he specifically told me that he knew from the moment that he began Turning Point USA that he was going to die young.

00:26:44.940 I'm going to show you, re-show you this text message again so you can see it.

00:26:49.240 Literally, he writes,

00:26:50.360 Since the beginning of Turning Point USA, I knew in my gut that I might get wiped out at any time.

00:26:56.460 I cannot explain it, but I dream about it all the time, like all the time.

00:27:00.520 Not really afraid of it, but I'm just telling you what I know to be true.

00:27:04.500 I'm not sure I'm going to live, begins with, I'm not sure I'm going to live to see the end of this revolution.

00:27:09.220 But interesting that he says, since the beginning of Turning Point USA, we should probably therefore go back to the founding story of Turning Point USA.

00:27:17.580 The story the public knows, the story that I was told, is that Charlie was this teenager, didn't get into West Point.

00:27:23.440 Anyway, he's speaking at a conference where a man named Bill Montgomery happened to be in attendance.

00:27:31.520 He has since passed. I've met Bill Montgomery. He's very kind to me.

00:27:35.320 And my point in bringing this up is not to throw any shade on him, but because I'm now interested in this origin story.

00:27:42.060 Anyways, he's in attendance. He's absolutely floored.

00:27:44.840 At Benedictine University, when Charlie speaks, he immediately knew that he was sort of looking at a future president.

00:27:51.020 This is an article. I think it was done in the Atlantic back in, it doesn't matter what year.

00:27:55.960 Anyways, it reads, in the Atlantic, Montgomery was at Benedictine University in western Chicago suburb of Lyle, Illinois, for the college's Youth Government Day in May of 2012.

00:28:08.740 The slate of speakers put the kids to sleep, he told the National Journal.

00:28:15.240 But when Kirk took the floor, the energy in the room completely changed.

00:28:18.420 The kids weren't sleeping anymore, and their attention was wrapped on Kirk.

00:28:22.540 Inspired, Montgomery went up to him after his speech and told him, as only a man 50 years senior, can say that he needed to delay college to pursue a higher calling.

00:28:33.360 Quote, I don't know you, Montgomery recalled saying, but you need to start an organization to reach out to young people with your message.

00:28:41.100 A month after Montgomery met Kirk, the duo launched Turning Point USA.

00:28:45.040 I want you to hold on to that phrase, I don't know you, but.

00:28:48.420 Again, that's the same story that I was told, so I was a bit surprised to learn that there may be a larger story here.

00:28:56.540 Now, Bill Montgomery was Air Force, he's in the Air Force Reserves.

00:29:00.500 Bill Montgomery also happened to be from Lincoln, Nebraska, getting into that one of those Egyptian plane stops.

00:29:07.660 A lot of these people are tied to Lincoln, Nebraska that are in this story, saving that for another day.

00:29:14.300 Now, not much is known about what specifically Bill Montgomery did during his time in the military, but we do know that he moved to the Chicago area thereafter, which, obviously, in the area where Charlie's X-Men School was.

00:29:28.960 The X-Men School, I just like to call it that, was actually called Creative Children's Academy.

00:29:34.140 It opened in 1982 for the academically gifted from preschool up into the eighth grade.

00:29:40.160 In 1999, it changed its name officially to Quest Academy.

00:29:45.060 It tells us on its website, or I'm sorry, in a past article, that it receives corporate and private funding from who we don't know.

00:29:53.400 I would like to know what corporations funded that academy.

00:29:57.680 What we do know is that it's a stone's throw from Northrop Grumman, the massive aerospace and defense company that has extensive federal contracts dating back to World War II.

00:30:07.960 Just put that fact in the back of your mind.

00:30:09.900 It may mean nothing at all, but I just want to say that because it came up when I was researching the general area in Palatine, Illinois.

00:30:16.860 Now, the Children's Creative Academy, I should tell you, was founded by a woman named Helene Bartz, okay?

00:30:24.660 Her husband is a Reverend Robert Bartz of Arlington Heights, Helene Bartz.

00:30:30.620 Now, a tip that I received and I was able to confirm is that Helene Bartz was actually good friends with Bill Montgomery and his wife, Edith Montgomery, Edith Walker Montgomery.

00:30:41.660 She actually goes by her last name, Edith Walker.

00:30:43.420 The person claims that Edith Walker, who I've since learned emigrated from Germany after World War II, and I can't really find much else about her, became a, and this is correct, an adolescent psychiatric nurse.

00:30:58.200 So she was a psychiatric nurse to the youth.

00:31:01.220 And that she was actually the person that started the school with Helene Bartz.

00:31:07.220 And that has since virtually been wiped from public record.

00:31:10.380 But that's what you're missing, is that these people all knew each other.

00:31:14.580 The person claims that Bill and his wife and a certain Robert Flood, who is in Dan Flood's family, this is what they claim.

00:31:23.260 And I have since found this person, said that they knew each other since before the school even got started.

00:31:29.380 They were all working for this evangelical company, evangelical sales force known as the Shackley Corporation.

00:31:37.660 It's still in existence today.

00:31:39.780 I'm going to give you a bit of information.

00:31:41.320 The Shackley Corporation was the first company that ever created a multivitamin in America.

00:31:46.460 It grew to be a massive, basically a middle-level management corporation, which, like I said, commanded this evangelical sales force.

00:31:55.020 Shackley was basically described as like a religious fervor that was sweeping the nation for nutrition.

00:31:59.620 It was started by a man who preached the gospel of nutrition by our products, but also the gospel is what this is really about.

00:32:07.580 And it grew to be a massive company that engaged in a 25-year contract with NASA.

00:32:12.940 You're like, what? Yeah, for supplements that they could take to space.

00:32:17.500 Now, it sounds to me like some good old-fashioned government money laundering, but sure, if you are like Skylar and believe in the moon landing, sure, maybe you need some vitamins up there.

00:32:26.320 Now, working off of this tip, I was indeed, like I said, able to confirm that Helene Bartz, so again, to give you these names, Helene Bartz started the school,

00:32:33.940 and I confirmed that she did indeed prior to worked at Shackley.

00:32:38.540 She actually ran the Shackley Center in Arlington Heights. 0.83

00:32:41.040 I also was able to confirm that a Robert Flood, who knows who this is in the Flood family, also worked for Shackley.

00:32:47.880 He looks a lot, this particular Robert Flood, looks almost identical to Dan Flood, in my opinion.

00:32:53.820 I will say that.

00:32:54.660 I have not personally confirmed who he is in this family, but apparently the Floods are kind of a big deal in Chicago.

00:33:00.100 And some people say that the Flood family, not saying this particular Flood, you know, they got a garbage industry thing going.

00:33:07.760 And it's a bit Soprano-like, you know, we are in the waste management business or whatever.

00:33:15.400 Anyways, that's Robert Flood.

00:33:17.500 And like I said, I confirmed that they were all friends.

00:33:19.740 Helene Bartz was friends with Bill Montgomery and Edith Walker Montgomery.

00:33:23.640 I'm having a lot of trouble.

00:33:24.880 And the reason why I'm putting this out there is I'm having trouble learning more about Bill and Edith.

00:33:28.840 Like, where did Bill serve in the military?

00:33:32.140 Why specifically did he move to Chicago?

00:33:34.320 Where in Germany is Edith Walker from? 0.83

00:33:37.420 Who was her first husband?

00:33:38.860 Because Walker was clearly not her first name when she moved here.

00:33:41.780 Where exactly was she a psychiatric adolescent nurse?

00:33:46.800 Again, using her full name, Edith Marie Walker, in Arlington Heights, where Charlie grew up.

00:33:55.300 Did she see Charlie?

00:33:56.660 Is that a plausibility?

00:33:57.460 I would say yes.

00:33:58.500 And I know that Charlie told me the story that they wanted to drug him when he was a kid.

00:34:04.700 But his mom said, no, my kid's a genius.

00:34:06.560 And instead, because his mother refused, they instead put him into this special school.

00:34:11.440 Again, this is investigation, maybe at least nowhere.

00:34:13.400 But this is sure as hell interesting enough for me to put it out there.

00:34:17.060 Mostly because the idea that everything we know about Turning Point's origin story

00:34:20.620 could also be incorrect is equal parts terrifying and fascinating.

00:34:24.640 It would give new meaning to the idea of his life being the Truman Show.

00:34:28.720 I think that's fair to state that.

00:34:30.780 If you have any more information, please message us.

00:34:33.700 You must send us an email at moretipsatcannisowens.com.

00:34:37.180 Maybe your research will be better than mine.

00:34:39.720 But I am particularly interested in Edith Walker Montgomery and where she came from in Germany

00:34:47.120 and who her family is, was all very fascinating and interesting time in America indeed.

00:34:53.720 And we will take a brief break here before we come back and give you an update on the internet sleuths

00:34:58.900 after I gave you that message, which sure read like a threat from a Christian Zionist. 0.84

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00:36:50.200 I see somebody in the chat.

00:36:51.280 First off, you guys are freaking out about listening to that call.

00:36:53.600 It makes everybody uncomfortable.

00:36:54.820 That is normal.

00:36:55.860 And now we are going to have to deal with the next psychological operation that tells us that it's wrong that we listened to the call.

00:37:00.980 Goodbye.

00:37:01.600 We don't care.

00:37:02.560 Something's not right.

00:37:03.420 We sense it's not right at Turning Point USA.

00:37:04.980 And it feels like the people trying to get to the truth are being penalized.

00:37:10.340 Okay.

00:37:11.100 Now, I do want to say to you what is particularly I found to be interesting about this Bill Montgomery angle and this Shackley Corporation and their contract with NASA.

00:37:20.700 And you've got to go way back.

00:37:21.840 You've got to go way back to my episode on the moon landing and why I don't believe the moon landing happened.

00:37:26.020 And because Operation Paperclip, which somebody has called out in the chat already, Operation Paperclip, was when we went over and we got these quote-unquote scientists, scientists Nazis from Germany, and we brought him here. 0.83

00:37:37.840 And we're supposed to go, oh, that's all fine that the CIA did this because now we have the Apollo program.

00:37:43.980 We went to the moon.

00:37:45.580 But what if we didn't go to the moon?

00:37:47.340 What actually did we bring these scientists over for?

00:37:50.040 These are the questions that I ask myself because I don't believe we went to the moon. 0.91

00:37:52.780 But I do believe we brought over these people and these families, and I think they were demented people and they were sick people.

00:37:58.720 And we bury Project Monarch, which was the precursor to MKUltra, Brigitte Macron's trigger in the lawsuit.

00:38:07.820 Don't break up MKUltra, the precursor being Project Monarch, where they were intentionally harming children, trying to sort of abuse people into compliance, mind control.

00:38:20.660 So that's interesting.

00:38:21.420 That is interesting.

00:38:22.780 And now we are seeing a bunch of people, and I really do believe that these are the White Walkers in our society. 1.00

00:38:30.360 These people are among us, that people are mind-controlled slaves, literally, which was the entire purpose of Project Monarch.

00:38:36.300 If you follow my idea, the moon landing didn't happen.

00:38:40.520 My fact.

00:38:41.000 If you want to follow the facts, the moon landing didn't happen. 0.85

00:38:42.920 And that would basically mean the CIA was bringing over perverts, like just bringing over a ton of perverts.

00:38:48.860 And I'd like a list of their names.

00:38:50.320 And I am very interested in how much NASA comes up in a lot of the stuff that I am researching.

00:38:56.240 Now, this brings me to the most savage internet thing I've ever seen happen.

00:39:02.220 Credit to at Brave Reports.

00:39:04.800 There's some of these smaller accounts that just savage.

00:39:08.700 I showed you guys this message.

00:39:11.220 I said, Turning Point's not going to come out and tell you who wrote this message.

00:39:14.760 This Zionist who is spelling, like you guys noted, God, putting a dash there. 1.00

00:39:20.420 You guys are like, that's not how Christians would write this.

00:39:23.640 It turns out that, well, Lori Cardoza Moore, in the Brave Report, pulled up as an evangelical Zionist who said that she then learned later on that she's Jewish, but she is still an evangelical. 0.97

00:39:36.060 She's a maniac. 1.00

00:39:37.000 I mean, there's no question she's a maniac. 1.00

00:39:38.240 And virtually everything that was said in this text message was also a rant that Lori decided to do live on the internet pertaining to Tucker's totally sensible speech.

00:39:50.740 Listen to Lori Cardoza Moore rant in her car. 0.87

00:40:20.740 Another crazy person talking, condemning Israel, praising Qatar with his mocking voice and his mocking laughter. 0.69

00:40:29.220 So Tucker gets up and speaks at this conference in Tampa, TPUSA. 0.94

00:40:34.180 And right after him comes Michelle Bachman.

00:40:37.080 Michelle has five minutes to make an argument for why we have to stand with Israel to these young people at EUSA.

00:40:44.680 When she starts talking in that conference about supporting Israel and why America should stand with Israel, the people in the audience start booing her.

00:40:56.800 I spoke with her personally.

00:40:58.760 She said 10% in the room got up and walked out on her.

00:41:03.720 That is shameful.

00:41:05.740 Then Charlie Kirk.

00:41:06.980 This is his event.

00:41:08.160 He's responsible for what people are saying and doing.

00:41:10.860 Does he get up and condemn Tucker or correct Tucker for what he said about Israel and how dangerous Qatar is to us? 0.85

00:41:20.460 No.

00:41:21.180 Did Charlie get up and defend Michelle Bachman?

00:41:24.380 Did he condemn the people that got up and walked out on her, that booed her?

00:41:28.340 Did he say why we stand with Israel, we support Israel?

00:41:31.680 No.

00:41:32.580 He didn't.

00:41:33.320 That tells us everything we need to know.

00:41:38.000 Yeah, Christian Zionism, man. 0.96

00:41:41.480 Sell your stocks immediately on Christian. 0.94

00:41:43.460 You got to absolutely just sell, sell, sell.

00:41:46.400 This is going down.

00:41:47.660 You just see, this is obviously, it's almost like they just hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be Christians. 0.61

00:41:53.340 That's the vibe that you start to get when you realize this is the only thing they care about.

00:41:57.360 This is all they care about.

00:41:58.440 And they will rant and they will rave and they will scream at you.

00:42:00.660 And in case you are wondering why so many of them seem to have these extensive acting backgrounds, you can look no further than Lori Cardoza more because these internet sleuths aren't playing around. 1.00

00:42:13.040 The DCIA, the decentralized intelligence agency is moving quicker and they found that, yeah, that's what Lori's background is in acting and for romance hotlines and things of the sort.

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00:43:02.280 She's not the only one, by the way, who was an actor.

00:43:04.640 And this is a person that I'm quite interested in, which is her husband.

00:43:07.560 She is married to a man named Stanley Clark Moore.

00:43:11.280 He has an Air Force background, also went to go work for NASA.

00:43:15.960 If his Wikipedia is to be believed for a little bit.

00:43:19.160 But little else is known about him other than the fact that he grew up on Air Force bases and that he graduated from high school in Texas, humbly Texas.

00:43:29.840 Which Air Force bases?

00:43:31.220 Who is his father?

00:43:32.600 I got to know who everybody's daddy is.

00:43:34.740 You guys, you guys know me.

00:43:35.640 I got to know if I don't know who your granddad is, I don't trust you.

00:43:38.060 I don't if you're in Texas in the 60s, especially.

00:43:41.820 I got to know who your granddad is.

00:43:43.340 If your granddad was involved with the military, you got to tell me right now.

00:43:45.720 Who's your granddad?

00:43:47.040 I need to know who Stanley Clark's father was.

00:43:50.680 So, Internet sleuths, get at it.

00:43:53.640 Which Air Force base?

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00:44:00.080 I feel like this is important somehow.

00:44:03.420 And there's just a lot of military ties in all of this everywhere.

00:44:07.700 I mean, even because we're kind of everywhere, someone messaged me and let me know that Turning Point is, you know, shooting their Super Bowl commercial here in Tennessee, in Nashville.

00:44:20.100 And they're working with this company where the CEO is from Lockheed Martin.

00:44:23.880 It's just everywhere.

00:44:24.560 It's military connections everywhere at all times.

00:44:26.600 And I do kind of feel like the military cult has been in power since LBJ helped murder JFK, set him up, and then, I think, cleaned house and put in his guys in the military.

00:44:40.300 That's how I feel.

00:44:40.800 So, anyways, not at the bottom, obviously, tons of brave American men and women who serve, but serve who?

00:44:47.840 That's the question.

00:44:48.560 Anyway, I just wanted to very quickly comment, because people were picking me on this, about Kanye taking out a full page in the Wall Street Journal to apologize.

00:44:58.340 Kanye's apology also sat down with Vanity Fair or answered questions for Vanity Fair about this apology, whether or not he means it.

00:45:06.740 He speaks about his bipolar episode, said that he is on new meds, that 2025 or 2024 was a tough year for him, and that this is not a PR move, that he is sorry to the people that he hurt.

00:45:20.400 I just want to just broadly say this, because this comes up all the time.

00:45:24.700 There's always this, Candace, yay.

00:45:27.560 I love yay.

00:45:28.520 He's like a brother to me.

00:45:29.760 I am never going to turn my back on yay.

00:45:32.420 I'm here for the yay of all seasons.

00:45:34.540 He and I agree on many things, disagree on many things at all times.

00:45:39.100 If he wants to apologize to people that he specifically has hurt, he is welcome to do that.

00:45:44.000 And, of course, for people that are now trying to construe this and attach and put pride, Candace, this has nothing to do with my viewpoints whatsoever on Israel, people who mass murder children. 0.76

00:45:57.420 I support yay in everything that he does, you know, and if I don't support him in anything, I will speak to him directly.

00:46:02.360 So I just wanted to state that because people were asking me, what do you think about this?

00:46:06.140 It's yay.

00:46:06.700 Yay is always doing something, whatever he wants to do.

00:46:10.500 And the reason why he and I get on so well is because yay has got to be yay and Candace has got to be Candace.

00:46:15.940 It's just how it works.

00:46:17.440 Anyway, we'll take a brief break and then I will get to some of your messages as I see the chat lighting up with that regarding that call that we just played, that Zoom call.

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00:48:58.920 Okay, reading for you guys the top comment from last episode.

00:49:03.880 Michelle wrote,

00:49:05.320 Didn't Erica Kirk say that no one can talk bad about her TPUSA family, but then she fires them without a reason? 0.92

00:49:10.700 Make that make sense?

00:49:11.760 It doesn't make any sense.

00:49:13.300 And my general opinion now is that she is, but this is in my opinion since we caught Andrew Colbert with the parent tactical, parent paramount tactical tweet, holding it that she's orchestrating a lot behind the scenes and keeping her hands clean.

00:49:26.560 And I think that became very obvious to me in that moment.

00:49:29.540 And then going backward and finding that these are, she's not misspeaking.

00:49:33.980 I mean, sometimes she's just saying a lie, right?

00:49:36.580 I lived in China.

00:49:37.660 No, I didn't live in, I never lived in China.

00:49:39.300 And you go backward and you go, you know, I didn't ever date anybody.

00:49:42.360 And people are constantly trying to clean that up.

00:49:44.020 It's like, you don't say I didn't date for five years if you did date for five years.

00:49:47.100 And then they're like, well, no, just meant in New York City. 0.93

00:49:49.720 Like, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. 0.92

00:49:51.580 That you just, that just makes no sense. 0.97

00:49:54.100 If you had a boyfriend the whole time you were in New York City, but he happened to live in Philadelphia, you don't say I didn't date for five years.

00:49:59.880 That's, that's not what you say.

00:50:01.700 You could say I didn't date anybody from New York City, but I'm kind of getting tired of everyone, like, extending things and not just calling out something that's just not true.

00:50:11.540 It's just not true.

00:50:14.840 Becca writes, when Erica talks, she is so boring. 0.84

00:50:18.900 She has not had that special thing that Charlie had.

00:50:20.660 And it will be the end of Turning Point USA if they don't make a change fast.

00:50:23.320 She is unlikable on the surface because she acts elite. 0.97

00:50:26.620 Goodbye, Turning Point USA.

00:50:28.280 Well, it's interesting that you say that because that, as I told you, was the feedback that a lot of these employees who got fired had.

00:50:34.820 They had no access to her.

00:50:36.140 It didn't feel like Charlie.

00:50:37.040 Charlie felt accessible.

00:50:38.420 They knew what his vision was.

00:50:39.740 He was that way.

00:50:41.700 Genuinely, he was that way.

00:50:43.040 He was certainly not an elitist in any way whatsoever.

00:50:47.460 Like I said, dude didn't even want to buy, even when he had the money, just buy himself a suit, go to a tailor and things of that nature because he wanted to be a good steward of Turning Point USA.

00:50:56.640 The money that's coming in, because obviously the majority of the money comes from small pocket donors.

00:51:01.500 And it seems like every effort that they are exerting is to go after people who are trying to find out the truth about what happened to Charlie Kirk.

00:51:12.300 That doesn't make sense.

00:51:13.200 You can't make that make sense.

00:51:14.760 You can't make a call like that make sense to people.

00:51:17.160 Jay Berger writes, don't forget, MLK started college at 15 and had a faith-based movement by the time that he was 21.

00:51:24.660 I actually did not know all of that.

00:51:26.000 I am ashamed of myself.

00:51:27.380 Coffee Addicted Mama Bear writes, I ordered your book the second you said you were shipping to Canada.

00:51:31.280 Oh, yep.

00:51:31.780 Make him a sandwich.

00:51:32.340 We now ship to Canada.

00:51:33.660 It was truly eye-opening.

00:51:34.920 I'm sure you had a good time reading it.

00:51:36.660 It's very funny to go backward and to realize where feminism has gone. 0.94

00:51:42.120 It's just very funny and sad and weird.

00:51:45.440 Continue.

00:51:45.980 I am impatiently waiting for my conspiracy girly cup.

00:51:48.360 It shall be there.

00:51:49.060 Your constant devotion to truth, your loyalty, and your strength are truly inspiring.

00:51:52.780 Go, Max Girl.

00:51:53.620 Man, I should have just read your comment.

00:51:54.760 I didn't even have to do shameless self-promotion because your comment was so kind and you promoted everything that we have.

00:51:59.500 But this is definitely great.

00:52:01.660 It's a great gift.

00:52:02.180 You should have the Conspiracy Girl mug.

00:52:04.300 Sorry.

00:52:05.380 For the fellas, you should buy the Conspiracy Girl girly mug for a lady in your life that you care about. 1.00

00:52:10.480 Because Valentine's Day is around the corner, obviously, and that's what you should be doing.

00:52:14.420 So order it now, today.

00:52:15.960 We need it sold out.

00:52:17.500 Adriana, New Jersey, writes, Erica plays a role that she thinks men want. 1.00

00:52:22.900 She did not have the same values as Charlie and now is peddling back.

00:52:26.340 The comment in the New York Times was, who needs a man?

00:52:30.240 Being a single mother is okay.

00:52:31.340 That is the opposite of Charlie's views.

00:52:33.440 I can't justify that comment.

00:52:36.500 To refer to it as the least traumatizing thing is, I think, what bothers me.

00:52:41.960 The least traumatizing.

00:52:44.300 Huh?

00:52:44.880 It's traumatizing full stop.

00:52:46.880 It should traumatize you full stop.

00:52:49.900 Joseph Brown writes, Candace Owens. 0.99

00:52:53.540 Curious Joel writes, geoengineering has become really fake and gay. 0.95

00:52:56.900 The sidewalks at my apartment were covered in ice. 0.95

00:52:59.200 It was like styrofoam.

00:53:00.320 I could walk to my work on them.

00:53:04.020 No problem.

00:53:04.440 The ice literally had a grip.

00:53:06.100 H-A-A-R-P must be drunk. 1.00

00:53:08.480 I, we could speak a lot about geoengineering.

00:53:10.600 And I believe that it would lead us to NASA's doorsteps.

00:53:14.760 Because I don't think they've been trying to get to the moon.

00:53:17.760 I do think that during the Korean War, as we learned throughout that chaos book, that we were experimenting with spraying.

00:53:26.120 Spraying people, spraying products.

00:53:29.500 And I think that that is the, the true reason that our, the true reason that NASA came together.

00:53:34.440 Mass poisoning people.

00:53:35.720 I, I, I believe that.

00:53:37.360 Dago Bert, our Dagbert Jonah writes, Candace, can you wish my beautiful wife, Crescenda Arjona, I hope I'm saying right.

00:53:47.120 I said Arjona, probably.

00:53:48.600 Crescenda Arjona, a happy birthday.

00:53:50.460 Crescenda Arjona, happy birthday.

00:53:52.720 I hope that's Spanish.

00:53:53.580 If not, then this is just weird.

00:53:54.920 But thank you so much for your support.

00:53:56.920 You write that she's a big fan of mine.

00:53:58.800 God bless you.

00:53:59.960 God bless you.

00:54:00.960 And Crescenda Arjona.

00:54:02.660 If it's not Spanish, it is now. 1.00

00:54:04.520 Seven Sheets writes, I didn't know that much about CK before this, but could tell a man of integrity.

00:54:09.160 I feel like I mourned him longer than EK or TPUSA did.

00:54:12.560 I'll never believe the slop and will support any voice that is seeking truth.

00:54:15.660 Thank you.

00:54:16.020 God bless you.

00:54:16.780 There's something about this story that I think makes us all feel like we're not safe.

00:54:20.900 If they could do that to Charlie and he was playing the game and get away with it, what

00:54:25.360 are we all doing?

00:54:26.160 We should just be revolting at all hours of the day.

00:54:28.460 I can't even listen to anything Trump says anymore.

00:54:30.460 I don't care about anything at all. 0.99

00:54:31.860 I'm just like, shut up. 1.00

00:54:32.700 I hate everybody. 1.00

00:54:34.020 You're all fake. 1.00

00:54:35.500 You're all actors, actually. 0.99

00:54:37.720 That's how I feel.

00:54:38.280 I look at all of them as bad faith actors in the political scene, and none of it is sincere.

00:54:45.900 A comic, Nick writes, I said this last week, and I need the world's opinion on this, but

00:54:51.560 why wouldn't Charlie Kirk tell Erica Kirk that they were going to kill him unless he was scared

00:54:56.000 that she was a part of it, of they?

00:54:59.640 Oh, unless he was scared that she was a part of they.

00:55:02.160 This is all I think about when you see her.

00:55:03.640 If Trubus is evil, well, to be charitable, it could also be in a scenario that is maybe

00:55:11.160 more chivalrous, that men don't want their wives to be concerned about certain things,

00:55:16.380 because there have certainly been things that, and again, this is a charitable read, but that

00:55:21.480 my husband has not told me until after.

00:55:23.040 I'm like, what?

00:55:24.000 Were you just keeping that in forever like a soldier?

00:55:26.920 We were dealing with this or whatever, and he just dealt with it and then told me after.

00:55:31.380 So it could have been just giving you another angle on that.

00:55:35.820 He could have not told her for that reason.

00:55:38.880 I'm less inclined to believe that Andrew Colbert and Dan Flood didn't tell her afterward, that

00:55:43.880 she had to rely on his text messages, that that wouldn't be the first thing in the investigation

00:55:48.060 that the feds would ask, hey, did Charlie have any fears, and that they wouldn't inform

00:55:53.140 his next of kin of those things, especially Dan Flood, as she's a chairman and CEO, and therefore,

00:55:59.120 presumably, actually could just take his text messages and read them if she wanted to.

00:56:04.020 Yeah, that is less believable than the fact that Charlie would maybe not tell her the

00:56:07.900 night before.

00:56:08.980 Cecily writes, I'm so sorry for you to hear this, Candace.

00:56:11.620 My cousin passed a week after Charlie, and it is still so hard for me to say that he has

00:56:14.900 gone to talk about it.

00:56:15.780 Can't imagine that much joy in my voice.

00:56:17.980 Again, I'm so sorry for you.

00:56:18.800 You loved and grieved Charlie so much.

00:56:20.860 I think I felt a bit like the employees, like, what am I doing wrong here that I have to

00:56:25.400 go away and cry for a long time?

00:56:29.000 And I cried on air, which is, I mean, that's never happened before.

00:56:33.540 And everyone else just kind of seemed giddy.

00:56:37.200 I was only going to describe it, like giddy.

00:56:38.360 When that person said they were joyous and giddy at Charlie's favorite restaurant, which

00:56:42.020 I chose not to name, that was how I felt listening to the call.

00:56:45.080 And I'm just going, guys, this is less than two weeks after, um, that motion, that emotion

00:56:51.460 shouldn't be possible.

00:56:53.100 It shouldn't be possible, actually, in my view.

00:56:58.280 Maria R. writes, uh, hey, Jolly Valley girl.

00:57:01.380 Oh, sorry, pardon.

00:57:02.420 Her Jolly Valley girl tone, excited to be discussing business numbers and goals, is super cringe 1.00

00:57:08.020 and weird.

00:57:08.440 This is beyond grieving differently behavior.

00:57:10.620 We all have common human instinct to sense these things.

00:57:13.500 Love you, Candace from Vegas.

00:57:15.080 And that I agree with you that they're trying to pervert.

00:57:18.060 Like, there is no commonality.

00:57:19.920 They're kind of giving us the MoMA.

00:57:22.320 The MoMA is modern art, where you go to the MoMA museum and there's a toilet and it has

00:57:29.860 scribbles all over it.

00:57:31.380 It has graffiti on it.

00:57:32.300 And they're like, this is art.

00:57:33.420 Art is in the eye of the beholder.

00:57:34.820 It's like, that's not art.

00:57:36.260 It doesn't matter how many times you say it.

00:57:37.900 That's not art.

00:57:38.860 There is such thing as objective beauty.

00:57:41.020 And that ain't it, my friend.

00:57:42.380 It's a toilet. 0.72

00:57:42.880 And you're just trying to see if you can get me there.

00:57:45.140 It feels like we're in the MoMA.

00:57:47.760 And they're going, everybody grieves differently.

00:57:50.340 Some people grieve happiness and laughter because it feels good because it comes in waves.

00:57:54.400 And it's like, nope.

00:57:56.680 I don't think so.

00:57:57.520 I understand even working to get through things.

00:58:01.520 I'm a person that has to work to get through things.

00:58:03.980 But this is not that event even for that, to have to work through something, become a workaholic,

00:58:10.660 because you have to deal with the emotion of watching somebody that you know and purport to love be publicly assassinated.

00:58:21.400 And you have to deal with that.

00:58:23.180 And I'm going to say that as a rule, it takes longer than less than two weeks to get out of bed, to do the thing.

00:58:33.920 I don't know.

00:58:34.280 I, that's, that would be my opinion.

00:58:38.080 But what do I know?

00:58:39.040 What do I know?

00:58:41.300 Just happy, right?

00:58:42.100 And to think that all I thought about on September 10th was how empty and terrified Erica must feel and how sad I was for those babies.

00:58:48.380 How ironic.

00:58:48.940 Crisis can keep going, Candace.

00:58:50.700 That's why I also think it was important to share of his call because we all were there thinking that.

00:58:56.040 For those of us who did not immediately find her to be suspicious in any way, we assumed that that's what she was going through.

00:59:04.780 And now that assumption has been removed.

00:59:07.860 And that's something.

00:59:09.740 That is a thing that we all now must digest.

00:59:12.760 And like I said, there's a lot more that's coming out because I think a lot of these employees are realizing it was a cult.

00:59:20.020 And they're, I mean, there's almost like a psychological operation being run on them.

00:59:22.500 It's like, if you need to use your pay time off, we'd understand.

00:59:24.800 But...

00:59:26.040 The wife is full steam ahead. 1.00

00:59:28.080 But if you need to take that time off, you've earned that time off, you need to take that off to grieve someone who's like, not your husband, that's fine.

00:59:35.040 That feels tricky.

00:59:36.920 That feels very tricky.

00:59:38.500 Anyway, you guys, we will see you tomorrow.

00:59:41.340 We'll see you tomorrow.

Candace Owens - January 28, 2026

EXCLUSIVE： Leaked TPUSA Audio ｜ Candace EP 296

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